Latest / Reality with The King / Southern Hospitality EXCLUSIVE with Michols & Lake
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- 0:03Speaker 1: Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King.
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- 0:36Speaker 2: Hey, rain drops on today's episode of Reality with the King,
- 0:40Speaker 2: I'm here with two of the stars of Southern Hospitality. Okay,
- 0:45Speaker 2: we got the dynamic duo of that is Michael's in leh.
- 0:55Speaker 3: Is this like double trouble?
- 0:57Speaker 4: Yes, yes, yeah, thank you so much for having us.
- 1:04Speaker 2: Yes, listen, I'm happy to have you guys on Reality
- 1:07Speaker 2: with the King because look, this show was off the chain,
- 1:11Speaker 2: and so are the two of you. So as we
- 1:13Speaker 2: sort of get into this incredible season, I have a
- 1:16Speaker 2: pressing question first that I need to be answered.
- 1:19Speaker 5: Okay, already getting to the mess.
- 1:24Speaker 2: Em Amanda or Team Sierra Si.
- 1:29Speaker 3: I had to check honey, oh my.
- 1:36Speaker 2: What else?
- 1:37Speaker 3: No, I'm Team Sierra too.
- 1:39Speaker 2: I just have to do Listen my rain drops had
- 1:43Speaker 2: to know whether or not the temperature check was going
- 1:45Speaker 2: to be accurate. So look, you the test, but look.
- 1:50Speaker 6: There's only one right answer with this one.
- 1:53Speaker 2: I think so too. I think so too. And listen,
- 1:55Speaker 2: we will see what happens at the reunion. And Congratsate Sierra,
- 1:58Speaker 2: who not only is going to be an upcoming season
- 2:02Speaker 2: of Dance with the Stars, she was at the meal.
- 2:04Speaker 4: Yeah, and she looks fabulous, fabulous.
- 2:08Speaker 6: I love the look.
- 2:10Speaker 2: No, but you two look fabulous as well, So lets
- 2:14Speaker 2: that I know you guys look great. So look, let's
- 2:16Speaker 2: talk about this season, because honey, y'all did not take
- 2:19Speaker 2: any prisoners. What has it about like watching this season
- 2:25Speaker 2: unfold in addition to like the commentary surrounding it, do.
- 2:32Speaker 6: You want to answer first?
- 2:34Speaker 5: I mean, I feel like a lot of people can
- 2:36Speaker 5: say the same that do, like the whole reality TV thing,
- 2:39Speaker 5: Like when you watch the season back, you're obviously watching
- 2:41Speaker 5: this like seven, eight, nine months ago, so you're like, damn,
- 2:46Speaker 5: I said that, or ooh, like obviously there's things you
- 2:50Speaker 5: wish you could have changed, but that's just the way
- 2:52Speaker 5: the life goes and that's the way the cookie crumbles.
- 2:54Speaker 5: So I don't know, I like to say that, like
- 2:57Speaker 5: I like to live my life with no no regret,
- 3:00Speaker 5: And it's like, maybe you have to react that way
- 3:02Speaker 5: or get over that hump in a certain way to
- 3:05Speaker 5: get to where I am now.
- 3:06Speaker 7: I feel like it's all about.
- 3:07Speaker 4: Growth, yes, yes, And we're watching our mistakes and we're
- 3:11Speaker 4: living through them at the same time as like you guys,
- 3:15Speaker 4: and so we're going to learn from those mistakes and
- 3:20Speaker 4: take everything into account and just look at everything like
- 3:25Speaker 4: we're watching it for the first time too, and so
- 3:27Speaker 4: it's all a learning experience, and you know, we hope
- 3:31Speaker 4: to learn from those mistakes and we hope to learn
- 3:33Speaker 4: from our good moments too and use that for following years.
- 3:38Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 3:39Speaker 2: Well, look, the thing is this The beauty of reality
- 3:41Speaker 2: television and I've been producing it for almost twenty years,
- 3:44Speaker 2: is the fact that you get to see yourself on TV.
- 3:48Speaker 2: Because sometimes you're like, oh, I look like this, I
- 3:51Speaker 2: sound like this.
- 3:53Speaker 3: Yeah up, and it's sort of cringe. And then on top.
- 3:58Speaker 2: Of that, you have to deal with the fans and
- 4:01Speaker 2: their commentary, on top of anything that you may be
- 4:05Speaker 2: insecure about just being on television.
- 4:07Speaker 3: So listen, I think you are doing.
- 4:09Speaker 2: A great job and I love that you two are
- 4:12Speaker 2: obviously figuring things out, but that's all you can do.
- 4:15Speaker 2: We're all along humans, and.
- 4:18Speaker 5: We're the youngest on the show, so it's like, give
- 4:20Speaker 5: us some grease. Everybody else is thirty and we're living.
- 4:23Speaker 4: Life for the first time. Everybody is living life for
- 4:25Speaker 4: the first time. So we're just trying to take it
- 4:28Speaker 4: day by day and just hold on to this experience
- 4:31Speaker 4: as much as we can, because while we're young, we
- 4:34Speaker 4: should be doing stuff like this, you know.
- 4:37Speaker 2: Yeah, So let's hit Michaels. You came in hot during
- 4:41Speaker 2: the season with Molly. Okay, so as we're talking about reflection,
- 4:48Speaker 2: do you feel like things escalated to quickly considering the
- 4:53Speaker 2: fact that you know, you look you.
- 4:56Speaker 3: Did thread a band heart also your thoughts.
- 5:02Speaker 5: I think, you know, watching it back, I wish Lake
- 5:05Speaker 5: wouldn't have, you know, lit the match that caused the fire.
- 5:09Speaker 7: Okay.
- 5:10Speaker 4: I may or may not have exaggerated a little bit.
- 5:13Speaker 4: I exaggerated a little bit, but.
- 5:17Speaker 6: She deserved it. You think she deserved it because she
- 5:25Speaker 6: was being a bitch.
- 5:27Speaker 4: I mean, she wasn't being nice. She was she was
- 5:30Speaker 4: talking down to me. She said, I acted like a kindergartener.
- 5:33Speaker 4: She was treating me with disrespect. I wish that situation
- 5:37Speaker 4: would have been handled outside of work, because one we
- 5:41Speaker 4: shouldn't have been having that conversation at work, which she
- 5:44Speaker 4: was kind of pushing for.
- 5:45Speaker 6: I was like, I'm at work.
- 5:46Speaker 4: I'm at work, and so my response was a lot
- 5:48Speaker 4: more monotone than I wish it would have been.
- 5:52Speaker 7: She was pushing, she was pushing the baron she got yea, Yeah, she.
- 5:55Speaker 4: Was pushing and pushing, pushing, and you know, I went
- 5:58Speaker 4: to my big brother Michael's. I may have exaggerated, but shoot,
- 6:02Speaker 4: I don't regret him defending hating me.
- 6:06Speaker 7: Defending me.
- 6:08Speaker 2: I love the fact that you're like, I may have
- 6:09Speaker 2: exaggerated a little bit, but at the end of the day,
- 6:13Speaker 2: it is what it is. So the thing with you, Michael's,
- 6:17Speaker 2: the fans have been trying to figure out, like, Okay,
- 6:20Speaker 2: where does this tension you.
- 6:22Speaker 3: Have when the Mally come from?
- 6:23Speaker 2: Because for them, outside of you know, Lake adding some
- 6:28Speaker 2: hot sauce to it, where does this titsion come from between.
- 6:31Speaker 3: You and Mally?
- 6:32Speaker 7: Well, I mean, I feel like there's definitely a few
- 6:34Speaker 7: different avenues.
- 6:35Speaker 5: The first one is definitely having to do with work,
- 6:38Speaker 5: like her firing. She liked to say that it was
- 6:40Speaker 5: all of my fault, or you know, I'm the reason
- 6:43Speaker 5: behind her firing, or that I, like, you know, came
- 6:46Speaker 5: in with the AMO, but that was obviously not the case,
- 6:49Speaker 5: and you'll see it play out towards the end of
- 6:51Speaker 5: the season, and when we get to the reunion, you'll see.
- 6:54Speaker 7: All the truth come out. But I would say I
- 7:00Speaker 7: think that being a part of it was very hurtful
- 7:02Speaker 7: for me, just because being my age, only twenty three
- 7:05Speaker 7: years old, and working in the nightline industry since I
- 7:08Speaker 7: was eighteen, and like just working my way up to
- 7:11Speaker 7: a management role, like I already had this position for
- 7:13Speaker 7: over a year and a half and like even over
- 7:16Speaker 7: here by the time we even started doing the show period.
- 7:18Speaker 5: So just for my management style or for that character
- 7:22Speaker 5: to even be questioned kind of stung. So immediately I
- 7:26Speaker 5: was like, yeah, you're gonna get it when I see you,
- 7:29Speaker 5: Like that was immediately where my mind went. But I
- 7:32Speaker 5: also knew time and place up until that night, so
- 7:35Speaker 5: I think that had a lot.
- 7:37Speaker 7: To do with it.
- 7:38Speaker 5: I think my relationship ending, like she was obviously really
- 7:40Speaker 5: good friends with my ex, and I feel like when
- 7:43Speaker 5: you go through this kind of experience and you're friends
- 7:45Speaker 5: with somebody, your initial thought is like, oh, like, if
- 7:50Speaker 5: my relationship ends, my.
- 7:51Speaker 7: Friend's gonna ride for me.
- 7:52Speaker 6: They're gonna be there for you.
- 7:54Speaker 7: Yeah, but I mean that obviously wasn't the case.
- 7:56Speaker 5: So I mean her firing then the relationship ending, I
- 7:59Speaker 5: was just like, you know what, those two going hands
- 8:03Speaker 5: so out the door.
- 8:04Speaker 3: I don't care as you break up your ex. Did
- 8:09Speaker 3: you really cheat on Preston? No?
- 8:12Speaker 7: Okay, So if I did, I would have.
- 8:15Speaker 5: I would have said yeah on the show, Like my
- 8:18Speaker 5: thing is I don't have anything to hide, and I've
- 8:19Speaker 5: said since a one like I'm gonna live my life
- 8:22Speaker 5: and like share my truth and.
- 8:23Speaker 7: Be unapologizically me.
- 8:24Speaker 5: Like if I if I sat there and just lied
- 8:26Speaker 5: about it, the truth is gonna come out eventually, So
- 8:29Speaker 5: why am I gonna lie about it?
- 8:31Speaker 6: And you would have broken up with him?
- 8:32Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that if anything like, I definitely would
- 8:35Speaker 5: have broken up with him before I even had the
- 8:36Speaker 5: idea of doing something like that. It's just not my nature,
- 8:40Speaker 5: it's not my character. I feel like growing up, I
- 8:42Speaker 5: already had like a really hard time like with relationships alone.
- 8:46Speaker 7: So I feel like the.
- 8:47Speaker 5: Friendship breakup already have hurt me a lot with Molly,
- 8:51Speaker 5: so I think going into the relationship being another factor
- 8:55Speaker 5: in that, aside from the job thing and her talking
- 8:57Speaker 5: you know shit about me around town.
- 8:59Speaker 7: Sorry, are we lot of hers?
- 9:02Speaker 3: Yes?
- 9:03Speaker 7: The key I don't know.
- 9:05Speaker 5: I don't know.
- 9:05Speaker 7: You go sometimes you gotta be careful.
- 9:08Speaker 5: I just think that those three things were just kind
- 9:11Speaker 5: of like, Okay, we're either going to get to a
- 9:13Speaker 5: place where it gets worse and they're not coming back
- 9:15Speaker 5: from this, or it's going to get better and we're
- 9:17Speaker 5: going to.
- 9:17Speaker 7: Be cool and like we can keep it corch and
- 9:20Speaker 7: keep it.
- 9:20Speaker 2: Cute when it comes to you being ugly gay. I mean,
- 9:25Speaker 2: first of all, congratulations on the Glad Media Award.
- 9:28Speaker 7: Thank you that.
- 9:31Speaker 2: You know the community rallied around you when you're coming out.
- 9:34Speaker 2: Story came about. Do you feel like this sense of responsibility.
- 9:39Speaker 3: Now that you know you're openly gay on.
- 9:42Speaker 2: Television to represent the community or do you feel like,
- 9:48Speaker 2: you know, listen, you're a young man figuring things out,
- 9:51Speaker 2: you living your life out and proud on television. Are
- 9:54Speaker 2: you more focus on making sure you represent yourself?
- 9:58Speaker 5: I think more so representing myself only because I feel
- 10:02Speaker 5: like that has a lot to do with the sense
- 10:04Speaker 5: of community. I feel like just growing up alone and
- 10:06Speaker 5: sharing my story and having the cameras around to capture
- 10:10Speaker 5: all these moments, I feel like it's very helpful for
- 10:13Speaker 5: someone that's maybe in my same shoes, so like in
- 10:16Speaker 5: my mind, instead of worrying about what the world thinks,
- 10:19Speaker 5: or like what the community thinks, or how I'm representing
- 10:21Speaker 5: the gay community, and more so thinking about myself and
- 10:24Speaker 5: how I'm how I'm more so helping other people as
- 10:30Speaker 5: time goes on, and how my story can benefit them
- 10:34Speaker 5: and help them. And I think that's just the best
- 10:36Speaker 5: way I could really go about it, instead of sitting
- 10:39Speaker 5: there and being like, oh my god, like the gay
- 10:41Speaker 5: community is going to disown me if I do this.
- 10:43Speaker 7: On TV or if I do that, like just be yourself.
- 10:46Speaker 5: Yeah, Like we all have moments, and I feel like
- 10:48Speaker 5: the beauty of doing this show is being transparent, going
- 10:52Speaker 5: through this journey and having the cameras capture it and
- 10:54Speaker 5: it play out and then you know, to feedback at
- 10:57Speaker 5: the end of the day.
- 10:58Speaker 6: And people love the awesome inticity rather than a fakeness
- 11:02Speaker 6: or somebody that is trying to be perceived as something
- 11:05Speaker 6: that for sure.
- 11:07Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, So Lake, Look, you know there's a
- 11:10Speaker 2: lot of Charleston gossip. So when it comes to the
- 11:14Speaker 2: stories that we're seeing, would you say some of it
- 11:18Speaker 2: is exaggerated because you know, look on the show, there's
- 11:22Speaker 2: tons of talks about you know, like the back alley blowjobs,
- 11:27Speaker 2: and you know, people are saying Maddie has been completely
- 11:31Speaker 2: gaslight or gaslighting.
- 11:33Speaker 3: So what is truth or fiction.
- 11:37Speaker 2: When it comes to some of that Charalston gossip that
- 11:39Speaker 2: happens on the show.
- 11:40Speaker 6: I think it's like fifty to fifty.
- 11:42Speaker 4: I think a lot of it is true and a
- 11:45Speaker 4: lot of it is fabricated. You know. It really just
- 11:48Speaker 4: depends on who you're talking to and what you're talking about,
- 11:52Speaker 4: you know, in regards to me, I mean lately I
- 11:56Speaker 4: feel like a lot of the stuff has been fabricated.
- 12:01Speaker 3: But when I come to exactly in your opinion, I
- 12:05Speaker 3: mean like.
- 12:06Speaker 4: In the most recent episode, the O'Shane threesome, I never
- 12:10Speaker 4: had a threesome with him, and I never you know,
- 12:15Speaker 4: I never had a threesome with him on Joe's birthday,
- 12:20Speaker 4: And the only person I went home with that night
- 12:22Speaker 4: was the girl that I came to the party with
- 12:25Speaker 4: and so that was like a whole fabricated lie that
- 12:29Speaker 4: kind of turned into like, oh, he has a girlfriend
- 12:31Speaker 4: and Linke's this homewrecord, when that was never the case.
- 12:36Speaker 4: When we did have relations, it was years ago and
- 12:39Speaker 4: he didn't have a girlfriend at the time, so it
- 12:42Speaker 4: was you know, that was a fabrication. And then there's
- 12:46Speaker 4: these fabrications of me being complacent in some of Emmy's actions.
- 12:52Speaker 4: I was never complacent in it. I never would condone
- 12:57Speaker 4: or condone anything of the life of what she.
- 13:00Speaker 6: Said regarding brad Or.
- 13:04Speaker 4: I would never and so and so there's those fabrications.
- 13:10Speaker 4: Some stuff that has like truth to it is that
- 13:14Speaker 4: I'm a very forgiving person and I give grace to
- 13:18Speaker 4: those who make mistakes. And so I do give grace
- 13:23Speaker 4: to those because I think we've talked about this conversation
- 13:26Speaker 4: of trust. When I give somebody my trust, I am
- 13:29Speaker 4: a very loyal person, and so I give certain people
- 13:32Speaker 4: my trust and my efforts and friendship. And when that happens,
- 13:37Speaker 4: I'm going to be there for them, and I'm going
- 13:39Speaker 4: to try and educate them on their wrongdoings.
- 13:42Speaker 6: And I'm not going to.
- 13:46Speaker 4: I'm not going to look at them like an evil
- 13:49Speaker 4: person when they make a mistake, I'm gonna be like, Okay,
- 13:53Speaker 4: let's fix this mistake.
- 13:55Speaker 6: But I'm not like complacent either. I don't know, it's all.
- 13:57Speaker 3: It's all.
- 13:58Speaker 6: I can be a little too nice sometimes.
- 14:00Speaker 2: Well look, you know that's why you have Michael's for you,
- 14:03Speaker 2: because you know I'm no nice girl.
- 14:06Speaker 3: No, no, he's the devil on your shoulder.
- 14:15Speaker 6: He's like, no, like you need to do this and
- 14:17Speaker 6: this and this and this and this.
- 14:19Speaker 8: Yeah.
- 14:19Speaker 5: And then when she doesn't do it, and then she
- 14:22Speaker 5: goes back, she's like, who, You're right.
- 14:24Speaker 6: And I'm like, I know, yeah, but you know, we
- 14:27Speaker 6: live and we learn. We live and we learn.
- 14:31Speaker 7: That's true.
- 14:31Speaker 3: That's true.
- 14:32Speaker 2: I want to talk about Willem Emmy, okay, because yeah, Lake,
- 14:37Speaker 2: you were close with Emmy. So from your perspective, do
- 14:42Speaker 2: you think that in Mey and Will were actually in
- 14:46Speaker 2: love or are we watching like a toxic cycle playout
- 14:51Speaker 2: for television?
- 14:52Speaker 3: Obviously, answer that too, well.
- 14:55Speaker 4: Will is not on the show, no longer on the show.
- 14:57Speaker 4: And so when I look at their relate reationship and
- 15:01Speaker 4: after like spending time with him, I don't think that
- 15:03Speaker 4: he cheated on her. And I think that they're getting married,
- 15:06Speaker 4: and well, I know that they're getting married, and so
- 15:10Speaker 4: let them get married and let them be happy together
- 15:14Speaker 4: and stop pushing like the cheating rumor stuff when there
- 15:19Speaker 4: is no tangible evidence to that. And so that's my
- 15:24Speaker 4: peace of mind when it comes to like, well, he's
- 15:26Speaker 4: not on the show anymore, so it's like I can't
- 15:29Speaker 4: comment on his actions if he's not a part of
- 15:32Speaker 4: the cast or the friend group anymore.
- 15:34Speaker 6: He's his connection is with Emmy.
- 15:38Speaker 1: This is reality with the King, and I'm Carlos King.
- 15:42Speaker 7: Let's get back into the show.
- 15:45Speaker 5: Whenever anybody brings it up on more so, like, well
- 15:48Speaker 5: are we still talking about this, Like.
- 15:50Speaker 6: Yeah, they're getting married, Like they're.
- 15:52Speaker 7: Getting married already, Like I don't care.
- 15:55Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, he's not on the show. They're getting married.
- 15:58Speaker 6: Let them do their thing.
- 16:00Speaker 5: Y'all are a little too worried about people's relationships. You
- 16:03Speaker 5: need to be worried about your job security.
- 16:04Speaker 7: Worry about your job, because how y'all don't have one.
- 16:08Speaker 3: So I meant put a name on it. Michaels.
- 16:13Speaker 7: Ask me the question you ask.
- 16:14Speaker 6: Just know we have our job.
- 16:17Speaker 3: Who's not doing their job?
- 16:20Speaker 7: You'll find out? Should I say no?
- 16:27Speaker 3: When she's trying to be messy michaels I asked him, I.
- 16:33Speaker 2: Seem no, okay, all right, you don't want to say it.
- 16:41Speaker 6: Oh well you see where the split is.
- 16:46Speaker 3: All right, that's all fair. Let's get to Justin.
- 16:51Speaker 7: Okay, that's favorite person.
- 16:57Speaker 3: Why you sip a Chick fil a cup? Child? Is
- 17:07Speaker 3: that lemonade? Honey? Or is a spike? Okay?
- 17:11Speaker 7: Not on camera? Not only come on, okay, not the allegation. Sorry, So.
- 17:20Speaker 3: Justin, why is that your favorite person? According to Michael, he's.
- 17:25Speaker 6: My least favorite person.
- 17:29Speaker 3: Well, he should talk about.
- 17:30Speaker 2: That, because you know, you've been accused of leading the
- 17:33Speaker 2: charge of throwing salt in his game this season. I
- 17:37Speaker 2: do this love triangle between Jordan and me, you know
- 17:40Speaker 2: all that stuff.
- 17:44Speaker 4: Him Him and Jordan were in a full on, basically relationship.
- 17:48Speaker 4: They lived together, She had the toothbrush at his house.
- 17:51Speaker 4: They were talking about certain things. Jordan met his mom.
- 17:55Speaker 4: You'll see more details at the reunion because I bring
- 17:57Speaker 4: my receipts, and so it's just kind of like he
- 18:01Speaker 4: was leading her on and downplaying the relationship to the
- 18:05Speaker 4: public eye.
- 18:06Speaker 6: And there's messages that show like we'll.
- 18:09Speaker 4: Come out soon, and like be together openly and like
- 18:13Speaker 4: all this stuff and like doing this thing with Jordan's head,
- 18:17Speaker 4: and it wasn't okay. In regards to Mi, I wasn't
- 18:20Speaker 4: only mad at her base off of the Jordan situation,
- 18:23Speaker 4: but Jordan was a factor into that because Jordan is
- 18:26Speaker 4: one of my close friends and so obviously I'm going
- 18:29Speaker 4: to be there to defend her when she doesn't have
- 18:31Speaker 4: a voice to defend herself. She doesn't get the confessionals,
- 18:34Speaker 4: she doesn't get the screen time that we get to
- 18:38Speaker 4: voice our opinions.
- 18:40Speaker 6: And Jordan and Mia were.
- 18:41Speaker 4: Friends, and she wants to say that they weren't friends
- 18:44Speaker 4: when they hung out multiple times. Jordan was roommates with Molly,
- 18:48Speaker 4: and Molly and Mia are super close. They would see
- 18:51Speaker 4: each other all the time. We went on a trip
- 18:52Speaker 4: to Vegas all together where Jordan and Justin met and
- 18:57Speaker 4: they were clearly like coupled up love islands the whole
- 19:00Speaker 4: entire trip.
- 19:01Speaker 6: Mia saw all of that. It was it was insane.
- 19:05Speaker 4: They were like they were like boyfriend girls my first
- 19:07Speaker 4: day on the trip, like I saw it and everybody
- 19:11Speaker 4: else saw it, and so Mia knew that, and that's
- 19:14Speaker 4: what frustrated me. And then there was other things that
- 19:17Speaker 4: happened between me and Mia besides the Jordan stuff that
- 19:22Speaker 4: really irked me, and you guys will find out more
- 19:24Speaker 4: at the reunion. But just like you know, coming into
- 19:29Speaker 4: this group, I looked up to Mia because she's a
- 19:32Speaker 4: strong woman and she knows how to hold her ground.
- 19:36Speaker 4: She's beautiful, she's intelligent, and I looked up to her.
- 19:40Speaker 4: But when you act like a mean girl towards me,
- 19:43Speaker 4: it makes that once once admiration just go to the
- 19:50Speaker 4: trash can, because like she's making little comments about my maturity,
- 19:54Speaker 4: making little comments about my emotional stake, making comments about
- 19:58Speaker 4: how I act, and it's it's like not out of endearment,
- 20:01Speaker 4: like we make comments towards each other out of endearment,
- 20:04Speaker 4: Like sometimes I'm like, oh, you know, I'll say something
- 20:06Speaker 4: to you out of endearment, out of love.
- 20:08Speaker 6: No, this was a straight strait of bullying.
- 20:11Speaker 4: And so when she's making those comments, I get, you know,
- 20:16Speaker 4: this built up of it, and then I lash out.
- 20:19Speaker 4: Maybe I should have lashed out in a different way
- 20:22Speaker 4: or in a different scene, not just's birthday, but it
- 20:26Speaker 4: was built up and there was more to that story.
- 20:28Speaker 6: Than just me defending my friend Jordan.
- 20:32Speaker 4: It was me defending myself as well, and I don't
- 20:34Speaker 4: regret that at all.
- 20:37Speaker 7: The other Ringion's crazy.
- 20:41Speaker 3: I can't wait.
- 20:44Speaker 6: We both come with receipts okay and timelines.
- 20:49Speaker 2: Seevs at Walgreens at your service, cash register full of receipts.
- 20:56Speaker 2: Another thing that was crazy that we have to get
- 20:59Speaker 2: into is the Polly Best Trip, obviously because that was
- 21:03Speaker 2: the first time where we saw y'all friendship being tested.
- 21:07Speaker 3: How were you two able to work?
- 21:11Speaker 5: Oh, you're talking about as I think the thing is,
- 21:15Speaker 5: you know, going into this experience together. Lake and I
- 21:19Speaker 5: kind of sort of formed a friendship before because we
- 21:22Speaker 5: kind of made a pact that we were like listen,
- 21:23Speaker 5: like we're in this together. We're in this together, like,
- 21:25Speaker 5: let's live it up, let's have a great time. These
- 21:27Speaker 5: are memories we're going to look back on years from now.
- 21:30Speaker 6: From the first day that we met, we were inseparable.
- 21:33Speaker 5: Yeah, Like the first thing we met, we literally stayed
- 21:36Speaker 5: up till like I was working at for Public.
- 21:37Speaker 7: She wasn't working there yet. She met me and she
- 21:39Speaker 7: was like you're so beautiful, and I was like like
- 21:42Speaker 7: swatting her away, like she was not like.
- 21:44Speaker 4: I was, like I was you're so beautiful, and I
- 21:46Speaker 4: like lingered around and I was like, can we hang
- 21:49Speaker 4: out after your shift?
- 21:50Speaker 5: And we like we went to an after party and
- 21:53Speaker 5: we stayed up till six am. We waited till Duncan
- 21:55Speaker 5: Donuts opened, and like we were just like kieking and
- 21:58Speaker 5: having a field day. And I was like, do you
- 22:00Speaker 5: like Doja cap? And she was like and we started
- 22:03Speaker 5: listening to Doja cat like. And I think the thing
- 22:06Speaker 5: is like we formed a friendship way before the cameras,
- 22:08Speaker 5: so whateverything was coming out and started to play out,
- 22:11Speaker 5: it was very genuine and authentic. And I think the
- 22:14Speaker 5: thing is a lot of the audience they're on, they're
- 22:18Speaker 5: seeing three months of our lives, so you're not capturing
- 22:21Speaker 5: the other months where there are no cameras. And I
- 22:24Speaker 5: think that that's what's very difficult. Like our relationship is
- 22:27Speaker 5: very sibling like giving brother sister relationship and together.
- 22:32Speaker 7: Yeah, like the just the way that we fight is
- 22:35Speaker 7: like you and your siblings.
- 22:37Speaker 5: And I feel like when people watch it back, it's like,
- 22:39Speaker 5: why is Michael getting mad at her and giving her
- 22:41Speaker 5: the cold tolder.
- 22:42Speaker 7: It's like that's how I am with my siblings. Like
- 22:44Speaker 7: my siblings and I were always.
- 22:46Speaker 5: Like that growing up, Like I know you remember growing
- 22:49Speaker 5: up with your siblings and you would just beat each
- 22:50Speaker 5: other up for.
- 22:51Speaker 4: You can fight for a whole day and then once
- 22:53Speaker 4: you forgive each other you go straight to like normally,
- 22:58Speaker 4: it was so like quick turnover. We fought for it
- 23:01Speaker 4: a day and then at the end, I was like,
- 23:03Speaker 4: oh I miss this. We hug each other and then
- 23:05Speaker 4: it's over and then we don't talk about it again.
- 23:07Speaker 6: Because that's just how it is.
- 23:09Speaker 4: And you know, I tell you everything, you tell me everything,
- 23:13Speaker 4: and it was all basically over a misunderstanding and that
- 23:18Speaker 4: also later gets revealed. But you know, we love each other,
- 23:23Speaker 4: we find like siblings.
- 23:24Speaker 6: It is what it is.
- 23:25Speaker 3: Yeah, no, And I love that for the two of you.
- 23:27Speaker 2: One of the things that the audience felt was happening
- 23:31Speaker 2: was the microaggression issues with Emmy. We was talking about
- 23:35Speaker 2: being scared of Brad and alleging that he stalked her
- 23:40Speaker 2: after the reunion. So when it comes to Brad, do
- 23:44Speaker 2: the two you feel like he was being described by
- 23:48Speaker 2: Emmy accurately or do you feel like she crossed the line?
- 23:52Speaker 7: Shesed cross the line. I think my biggest thing is too.
- 23:57Speaker 5: Like I always tell her, I'm like, I'm never going
- 24:00Speaker 5: to be that friend that doesn't hold you accountab work
- 24:02Speaker 5: tells you when I think you're wrong, because I'm just
- 24:05Speaker 5: I'm not that friend that's just going to bend over
- 24:07Speaker 5: up backwards and like get fucked in the ass because
- 24:09Speaker 5: you want to say whatever you want and I'm gonna
- 24:11Speaker 5: ride for that.
- 24:12Speaker 7: That's just not me.
- 24:13Speaker 5: I've never been that way, and her and I had
- 24:17Speaker 5: I feel like before we even filmed this past season
- 24:19Speaker 5: was like a very close friendship and we were like
- 24:22Speaker 5: picking up the pieces from last year because I obviously
- 24:25Speaker 5: had issues with her from last year when we went
- 24:27Speaker 5: to Lake's lake House, and then I think just going
- 24:30Speaker 5: into this year, just the way that she spoke about Brady. Immediately,
- 24:33Speaker 5: I was like, you can't say things like that, like
- 24:36Speaker 5: drop it, let it go.
- 24:37Speaker 6: And then I think personally because you are also.
- 24:40Speaker 5: Yeah, and it's like, I think we obviously cover it
- 24:43Speaker 5: more when the reunion comes, although I felt like there
- 24:46Speaker 5: still wasn't even a lot of time to really get
- 24:48Speaker 5: into it.
- 24:49Speaker 7: I think that.
- 24:52Speaker 5: Just being able to give people grace and the situation
- 24:58Speaker 5: is different because I especially with the way that I
- 25:00Speaker 5: handled it, I would say It's very different from the
- 25:04Speaker 5: situation with Lake or anybody else on the show that
- 25:07Speaker 5: I may have conflict with, because the last thing I
- 25:10Speaker 5: wanted was to sit there and get into some kind
- 25:13Speaker 5: of conflict with her or something similar to happen, and
- 25:16Speaker 5: then to be labeled as that too. And then it's like, girl,
- 25:19Speaker 5: we're trying to help you, like, don't say things like that,
- 25:23Speaker 5: like you like, come on, We're on a show, like
- 25:27Speaker 5: this is gonna come out and you're not gonna like
- 25:28Speaker 5: it when you see it.
- 25:29Speaker 7: So it's like it was. There were a lot of
- 25:32Speaker 7: growing pains. I feel like the way he was described
- 25:36Speaker 7: was not appropriate. We don't agree with it.
- 25:39Speaker 5: And I think that you will see later why, especially
- 25:42Speaker 5: at the reunion when it gets revealed why she was
- 25:44Speaker 5: so hyper fixated on it.
- 25:46Speaker 4: Yeah, and she goes into this tangent of blind loyalty.
- 25:50Speaker 4: She expects blind loyalty from us. But what I have
- 25:54Speaker 4: tried to explain to her multiple times that blind loyalty
- 25:58Speaker 4: is contradictory. How can you be loyal to something that
- 26:01Speaker 4: you're blind to, you know, something that you can't see.
- 26:05Speaker 4: You know, you want to have loyal friends that are
- 26:08Speaker 4: going to tell you what you're doing wrong, like what
- 26:12Speaker 4: you're doing wrong? When you do something wrong, you know,
- 26:14Speaker 4: you don't want to let friends sugarcoat it. That's not
- 26:18Speaker 4: that's not loyalty to me, my loyal friends like you,
- 26:22Speaker 4: you tell me when I'm doing something wrong.
- 26:23Speaker 5: I think my biggest thing is too throughout the summer,
- 26:26Speaker 5: and you'll keep seeing it play out as the next
- 26:28Speaker 5: few episodes go on. It was extremely difficult to navigate.
- 26:33Speaker 7: The whole entire broad and Amy situation, especially being in
- 26:36Speaker 7: the middle and trying to explain as somebody that was
- 26:38Speaker 7: closer to.
- 26:38Speaker 5: Her, like hey, like you need to drop it, you
- 26:41Speaker 5: need to let it go, like you're not You're obviously
- 26:43Speaker 5: not going to listen to somebody you're not friends with,
- 26:45Speaker 5: So who better to listen to than somebody you're friends with.
- 26:47Speaker 6: We told her to let it go, so the.
- 26:49Speaker 5: Whole entire summer, and I think the biggest issue with
- 26:53Speaker 5: it all was more so demanding blind loyalty when you
- 26:56Speaker 5: can't give that to somebody else.
- 26:58Speaker 6: Yeah, and it just does makes sense. Blind loyalty is
- 27:02Speaker 6: a lie in itself.
- 27:05Speaker 3: Do you feel like like when you you know your
- 27:07Speaker 3: mother famous.
- 27:08Speaker 2: Last words was don't discuss black people's business.
- 27:11Speaker 7: With white people.
- 27:12Speaker 2: Do you feel like that still stands and that's something
- 27:14Speaker 2: that you still have to like remind yourself of sometimes.
- 27:19Speaker 6: Yeah, So what my mother was doing was what several.
- 27:23Speaker 4: Black mothers do with their black daughters, is reminding them
- 27:28Speaker 4: of the certain privileges we do and don't have, you know.
- 27:32Speaker 6: And so my mother was doing a mother's work.
- 27:35Speaker 4: She and I follow her advice and I listen to
- 27:39Speaker 4: her and I love her so much. We talked to
- 27:42Speaker 4: me all that every single day because my mom is
- 27:45Speaker 4: just she is that counseling woman that will tell you
- 27:48Speaker 4: straight up and give you that tough.
- 27:50Speaker 6: Love that you need when you need it.
- 27:52Speaker 4: And in that moment, you know, having that conversation, I
- 27:56Speaker 4: do deeply regret having that conversation with Ella for her
- 28:00Speaker 4: to then go and tell emmy of what that conversation contained.
- 28:04Speaker 4: And so I regret that. I regret that I made
- 28:08Speaker 4: a mistake and I will own up to it. And
- 28:12Speaker 4: and it just like tumbled down into a whole discussion.
- 28:15Speaker 4: And then I'm having this conversation with Brad, and I
- 28:18Speaker 4: think that we made a lot.
- 28:19Speaker 6: Of headway in that conversation.
- 28:21Speaker 4: I'm very proud of that conversation, and I think it
- 28:23Speaker 4: made a lot of growth for our friendship to develop
- 28:26Speaker 4: from there. But yeah, ultimately I have regrets this past season,
- 28:33Speaker 4: but I'm learning, and everybody makes mistakes. Everybody makes mistakes.
- 28:38Speaker 4: But now my mom is straight up. She told me
- 28:40Speaker 4: straight up, and I love her for that.
- 28:43Speaker 7: I love her.
- 28:48Speaker 4: My mom.
- 28:49Speaker 6: She knows what's up. She knows what's up, and she'll
- 28:51Speaker 6: tell me straight up. And so I love.
- 28:54Speaker 4: She does the Lord's work, does well like she does
- 28:58Speaker 4: the Lord's work. And you know, she she I needed
- 29:03Speaker 4: tough love there. She needed to remind me who I
- 29:05Speaker 4: am and what what like, she needed to remind you
- 29:10Speaker 4: who I am. And that reminder was very valuable, valuable
- 29:14Speaker 4: for me the rest of the season and the rest
- 29:17Speaker 4: of my life. You know, I'm going to be more
- 29:19Speaker 4: mindful about things that I do and say.
- 29:22Speaker 6: You know, I do have a big mouth, but I'm
- 29:26Speaker 6: working on it.
- 29:28Speaker 3: We all do. We all do.
- 29:29Speaker 2: And speaking of working on stuff, it's nice to see
- 29:33Speaker 2: you working on your anxiety and being open about that. So, like,
- 29:38Speaker 2: have you been following different techniques in terms of handling that?
- 29:43Speaker 3: How is that going for you?
- 29:44Speaker 6: I mean it's a work in progress.
- 29:47Speaker 4: Right before this, I was a therapy, so so you know,
- 29:51Speaker 4: it's a work in progress.
- 29:53Speaker 6: I have my different coping mechanisms.
- 29:56Speaker 4: I think that there is a lot of anxiety built
- 29:59Speaker 4: up with you know, alcohol. This past summer, I was
- 30:03Speaker 4: drinking and I was smoking a lot of weed, and
- 30:06Speaker 4: so i went sober in September and I've been sober
- 30:10Speaker 4: off of everything since then, and I've just been.
- 30:12Speaker 6: Kind of situation.
- 30:14Speaker 4: Thank you, thank you. I'm trying to make it to
- 30:16Speaker 4: a year. I'm almost there, and so having this clear.
- 30:20Speaker 5: Mind, I'm like, this past weekend, but yeah, I just
- 30:26Speaker 5: got back from New York.
- 30:27Speaker 7: I was partying for like, but you.
- 30:31Speaker 4: Know, having this clear mind of being sober has helped
- 30:36Speaker 4: a lot, even if I'm only like, I'm only limiting
- 30:39Speaker 4: myself to a year of doing it because I wanted
- 30:41Speaker 4: to see how long I could do it, and so
- 30:43Speaker 4: I think a year is perfect and then I'll find
- 30:45Speaker 4: better moderation with that.
- 30:47Speaker 6: Because I didn't have that moderation. I was just kind
- 30:50Speaker 6: of like, for me, up for me, up for me.
- 30:53Speaker 7: Yeah.
- 30:53Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I'm so proud of you, even like I
- 30:56Speaker 2: said opening about that, because it affects so many people
- 30:58Speaker 2: that you know are quiet about it rightfully, So this
- 31:01Speaker 2: is a private thing. So again that's the beauty of
- 31:04Speaker 2: being a reality Television's helping those who may not be
- 31:08Speaker 2: so you know, courageous to speak about it publicly.
- 31:12Speaker 3: So prop for you there.
- 31:15Speaker 2: So of course, of course, of course I love that
- 31:18Speaker 2: Michael's your career.
- 31:19Speaker 3: We have to get into that.
- 31:23Speaker 2: Look, you are building up your repertoire and everything going on.
- 31:29Speaker 3: You obviously have.
- 31:32Speaker 2: This show that has really created you to be this
- 31:36Speaker 2: heart throb on television so much so you are building
- 31:40Speaker 2: your modeling career and on that. Do you feel like
- 31:47Speaker 2: you made it or you feel like you're still at
- 31:49Speaker 2: ground zero trying to like get there?
- 31:53Speaker 5: I definitely I don't. I wouldn't say ground zero. I
- 31:55Speaker 5: think that we're definitely baby steps. I feel like I'm
- 31:59Speaker 5: high the right meetings and the right conversations with the
- 32:03Speaker 5: right people. But I'm more so being picky about how
- 32:06Speaker 5: I go into the industry, just because it is a
- 32:11Speaker 5: female it is a female dominated industry. Just going to
- 32:15Speaker 5: modeling alone, and I think that the opportunities that do come,
- 32:19Speaker 5: I want this for longevity. I don't want it to
- 32:21Speaker 5: be some just kind of like, oh I modeled for
- 32:23Speaker 5: here and then I gave up and onto the next
- 32:25Speaker 5: It's something that I've been wanting to do for a
- 32:27Speaker 5: really long time. So I think my biggest thing is
- 32:29Speaker 5: just like being picky, being more mindful about who I'm
- 32:31Speaker 5: being with who can really help me get to the
- 32:33Speaker 5: next level.
- 32:34Speaker 7: Like, yeah, I got this like great cover.
- 32:37Speaker 5: Shoot, But I think that my biggest thing is not
- 32:39Speaker 5: only the cover shoot.
- 32:40Speaker 7: It's more so building a portfolio now and.
- 32:44Speaker 5: Being reputable and just being able to eventually be in
- 32:47Speaker 5: a place where I can travel and go to Italy
- 32:49Speaker 5: or like if I ever wanted to walk in like
- 32:51Speaker 5: a fashion week or you know, something of the sorts,
- 32:54Speaker 5: I could make that happen and like make that come
- 32:56Speaker 5: to life.
- 32:58Speaker 7: So I wouldn't say ground zero.
- 32:59Speaker 5: I think it's also to one of those things like
- 33:02Speaker 5: when the show is just now airing, you kind of
- 33:04Speaker 5: have to kind of wait until a little bit after
- 33:07Speaker 5: when until the opportunities start to come up.
- 33:10Speaker 7: So it's all kind of a waiting game, just being patient.
- 33:13Speaker 7: It's what I'm learning.
- 33:14Speaker 2: But yeah, we got to get into this dating app scandal.
- 33:21Speaker 3: Oh god, girl, did you ever figure out who bag
- 33:24Speaker 3: you from?
- 33:24Speaker 9: It?
- 33:25Speaker 3: Like what happened.
- 33:27Speaker 7: I was trying to do? It was like a brand
- 33:29Speaker 7: deal with Tenderer.
- 33:31Speaker 5: It was like tender and Archer because you know they
- 33:33Speaker 5: they're owned by the same and so it's hinge and
- 33:36Speaker 5: so if you're banned from the one, your band from
- 33:38Speaker 5: all and so I couldn't. Yeah, I couldn't. I mean
- 33:41Speaker 5: I'm on Riyah. So it's not like I just use
- 33:44Speaker 5: my mind.
- 33:46Speaker 6: It's paying for it a little bit.
- 33:48Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean he used to be.
- 33:50Speaker 6: A little bit more niche, but not more mainstream.
- 33:54Speaker 5: Like sometimes I'll just be swiping and I'm like, oh,
- 33:57Speaker 5: they let you on here.
- 33:58Speaker 3: Like I do.
- 34:01Speaker 2: When I was like single, I tried to get all
- 34:04Speaker 2: that motherfucker and I could not get through.
- 34:08Speaker 6: You need a recommendation. You need a recommendation, girl, I
- 34:11Speaker 6: have three.
- 34:13Speaker 7: Oh yeah, that's crazy.
- 34:15Speaker 3: Family was one.
- 34:17Speaker 2: Oh wow period period the girl they will let me
- 34:22Speaker 2: on and I say about fuck that.
- 34:24Speaker 3: So I did the most freeping in the world. I
- 34:27Speaker 3: just live in DMS.
- 34:27Speaker 7: It was great for me. Yeah, period.
- 34:30Speaker 5: I think my biggest thing is too It honestly has
- 34:32Speaker 5: not done anything for me. I don't know why I'm
- 34:34Speaker 5: still paying for it. Because when I go out in
- 34:37Speaker 5: New York or I go out and any other city,
- 34:39Speaker 5: like I usually will meet people, and I'm like, oh,
- 34:41Speaker 5: in my head, I'm like I just saw you on
- 34:42Speaker 5: Rayah and like, why are you playing catfish out here?
- 34:45Speaker 6: I got on it at like eighteen, and like, I.
- 34:49Speaker 7: Haven't that's crazy.
- 34:51Speaker 4: I was on it like right when I did. I
- 34:53Speaker 4: was on it in the prime. But I was also
- 34:57Speaker 4: like living in a different country at one point, and
- 34:59Speaker 4: so I wasn't really like paying much attention to it.
- 35:02Speaker 4: And then I realized that I was paying like one
- 35:04Speaker 4: hundred something a month for it.
- 35:06Speaker 2: Yeah, no, that's crazy, And I think, is this, you
- 35:09Speaker 2: too are attracted people, so like you don't need to
- 35:11Speaker 2: be paying a month.
- 35:12Speaker 5: But it's hard to date once you're in like the
- 35:15Speaker 5: TV world, because you don't know what people's intentions.
- 35:18Speaker 3: Are and do you know you have to answer dams.
- 35:22Speaker 6: Answer dms, answer dms.
- 35:25Speaker 2: Like with somebody's last redim do they have to have
- 35:27Speaker 2: a blue check?
- 35:29Speaker 7: No?
- 35:29Speaker 8: No?
- 35:30Speaker 7: But my thing for no check?
- 35:33Speaker 3: You don't want no check? No.
- 35:34Speaker 6: I want them to have like fifty followers.
- 35:37Speaker 5: Like somebody low key also too, I don't want to
- 35:40Speaker 5: end up dating somebody that's like oh yeah, like I
- 35:42Speaker 5: watched Bravo, like as much fun as that is, Like
- 35:45Speaker 5: I don't want you watching the show that I'm on
- 35:48Speaker 5: and then like sitting there thinking about, like, oh, do
- 35:51Speaker 5: you act the same in person.
- 35:52Speaker 7: That you do on TV?
- 35:53Speaker 5: Like I don't want you to date this person that
- 35:56Speaker 5: you only see me three months of the year. You
- 35:58Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. It's like they're so much more
- 36:00Speaker 5: to me. There's so much more depth to me. And
- 36:03Speaker 5: I feel like as much as social media thing is fun,
- 36:06Speaker 5: I feel it's all about the chase at the end
- 36:08Speaker 5: of the day, for being honest, like I'm going on
- 36:10Speaker 5: there to be a hollow and post shirtless pictures. I'm
- 36:13Speaker 5: not going on there to like meet my husband. So
- 36:15Speaker 5: let's be honest.
- 36:16Speaker 6: We're not going to find those and tour in our
- 36:18Speaker 6: mid thirties.
- 36:19Speaker 3: No, my, but you two are young and your twenties
- 36:23Speaker 3: have fun.
- 36:24Speaker 5: Also, I think my biggest thing is too, like I
- 36:27Speaker 5: just did the relationship thing last year, Like I wanted
- 36:30Speaker 5: to make sure that I was single like this year,
- 36:33Speaker 5: and plus my agent was like, girl, you need to
- 36:36Speaker 5: be single.
- 36:36Speaker 7: Being single is.
- 36:37Speaker 5: Better for the brand anyway, Like better the I was
- 36:39Speaker 5: missing out on a lot of opportunities last year being
- 36:42Speaker 5: in a relationship, and I feel like it kind of
- 36:44Speaker 5: set me back a little bit. So now this year
- 36:46Speaker 5: I'm more so like trying to make up for it
- 36:48Speaker 5: in the best way. But yeah, I think that's my
- 36:52Speaker 5: mindset going.
- 36:55Speaker 3: As job big older brother.
- 36:56Speaker 2: My advice is, listen, you guys are hot, famous and young.
- 37:02Speaker 3: Enjoy it, you know what I mean?
- 37:05Speaker 2: Yes, have like travel and like meet people like because listen,
- 37:10Speaker 2: you guys are experiencing something that not everybody gets a
- 37:15Speaker 2: chance to experience.
- 37:16Speaker 3: And when you when you're older and settled.
- 37:19Speaker 8: Right, you want to look back and be like, baby,
- 37:23Speaker 8: that was a hot decade of like TV show and
- 37:27Speaker 8: like going to these parties and like making out the
- 37:30Speaker 8: middle of Times Square, you know what I mean?
- 37:32Speaker 7: Like, Oh lord, that was Michaels.
- 37:37Speaker 2: You spent five days in New York City, Honey, so
- 37:41Speaker 2: behaved for five consecutive days.
- 37:44Speaker 6: He said, behaved, not well behaved.
- 37:52Speaker 7: You don't know how to behave at own period.
- 37:55Speaker 3: I have fun so two bore things to get into.
- 37:58Speaker 3: We got to let you guys go. I want to
- 38:00Speaker 3: get to Joe and Maddie.
- 38:02Speaker 7: Is that I'll come?
- 38:05Speaker 3: So do we think they're going to go the distance?
- 38:08Speaker 7: Yes? Funny enough, they're actually in La right now.
- 38:12Speaker 5: But you know, I think that Joe this time around,
- 38:17Speaker 5: the Joe that you're seeing is very interesting because I
- 38:20Speaker 5: feel like he's going through a very big transitional period
- 38:23Speaker 5: in his life, trying to figure out what it is
- 38:25Speaker 5: he wants to do. But at the same time, he
- 38:28Speaker 5: doesn't like the perception that he's like writing Mattie's coat tail,
- 38:31Speaker 5: because that's not.
- 38:32Speaker 7: Necessarily the case.
- 38:33Speaker 5: I think right now, the Joe that he is and
- 38:36Speaker 5: that you'll see at the reunion has done, honestly so
- 38:39Speaker 5: much growth, and it'll be really nice to see. And
- 38:42Speaker 5: I think that Maddie's been like his biggest supporter and
- 38:44Speaker 5: like champion for him to go and do his own
- 38:47Speaker 5: thing and really figure out what his brand is and.
- 38:50Speaker 7: What he wants to do with his life.
- 38:52Speaker 6: They compliment each other.
- 38:54Speaker 4: They compliment each other, and they're almost like the opposite
- 38:58Speaker 4: to tract, but they also have to smilar characteristics.
- 39:01Speaker 7: Like he's very golden retriever man, he's like black pot.
- 39:04Speaker 4: But but they compliment each other and they're like mom
- 39:10Speaker 4: and dad.
- 39:11Speaker 6: I love them together.
- 39:13Speaker 2: And then I want to get too grace Lily because
- 39:15Speaker 2: obviously you know she is sober and she's a part
- 39:19Speaker 2: of her life and even the last episode revealing that
- 39:22Speaker 2: she struggled with kadamine, which.
- 39:23Speaker 3: Obviously is like super sad.
- 39:26Speaker 2: Talk to me about like grade type of you guys
- 39:28Speaker 2: spoken to her since the reuinion, I.
- 39:31Speaker 5: Think I think the thing is I was more so
- 39:34Speaker 5: shocked to watch how she went about it because knowing
- 39:37Speaker 5: Grace and working at Republic even before I was on
- 39:41Speaker 5: the show, I like, when you when your friend is
- 39:44Speaker 5: going through something you know, and when your friend is
- 39:46Speaker 5: struggling you know, and to just see that first hand,
- 39:49Speaker 5: especially in our work environment, but not really be able
- 39:52Speaker 5: to say anything because you didn't want to be that
- 39:54Speaker 5: person that's like push you. But girl, I can tell
- 39:56Speaker 5: you're struggling, like at work because you know, we got
- 40:00Speaker 5: be sober on the job. But it's like, how can
- 40:02Speaker 5: you say something without saying something in them getting offended?
- 40:06Speaker 5: So I think even navigating that and then her taking
- 40:09Speaker 5: herself out of the nice life space was I feel like,
- 40:12Speaker 5: in my opinion, the first step for her because she
- 40:15Speaker 5: realized like that environment is not.
- 40:17Speaker 7: Good for her.
- 40:18Speaker 5: And then I think that being able to come on
- 40:20Speaker 5: this year and just be even more transparent about it
- 40:23Speaker 5: and share her story and going and having those meetings
- 40:26Speaker 5: in those tough conversations about her substance abuse.
- 40:29Speaker 7: I think was just huge of her because I know
- 40:32Speaker 7: that something, yeah.
- 40:33Speaker 5: Something like that is not easy, and you know, she
- 40:35Speaker 5: talks about it a lot more at the reunion, which
- 40:38Speaker 5: I'm hoping that you guys will see.
- 40:39Speaker 7: But yeah, we're really proud of Grace.
- 40:41Speaker 4: I am proud of her, and you know, every time
- 40:43Speaker 4: I hang out with her, we always just have like
- 40:46Speaker 4: a debrief session, and she's she's doing really well. You know,
- 40:49Speaker 4: she's been focusing on herself and there's more good things
- 40:53Speaker 4: to come with God and Grace, and I hope I
- 40:56Speaker 4: can be there for her and Michaels can be there
- 40:58Speaker 4: for her and you can integrate herself back into the company.
- 41:03Speaker 3: Yeah that's good. All right. So last we're going to
- 41:06Speaker 3: get into is puta Kana.
- 41:08Speaker 2: Oh okay, the boat party?
- 41:13Speaker 7: All right?
- 41:14Speaker 2: So do we think Joe missed the mark for Maddie's birthday?
- 41:19Speaker 3: Oh?
- 41:19Speaker 5: You're talking about her birthday party? The uh, the the
- 41:24Speaker 5: pirate theme? Yeah, I mean yeah, I.
- 41:29Speaker 7: Think I mean you grew up there, you know, so
- 41:32Speaker 7: like oh into Minican Republic. Wait are you talking about
- 41:35Speaker 7: Maddie's birthday or Dominican Republic? Sorry?
- 41:37Speaker 6: Maddie's birthday was in Charleston, and I'm both.
- 41:41Speaker 2: Let's first get to Maddie's birthday and then let's get
- 41:45Speaker 2: into Dominican Republic.
- 41:46Speaker 6: Okay, perfect, Okay, Yeah he kind of missed it.
- 41:49Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean that day was so funny. She was like,
- 41:51Speaker 5: I don't want to be here. I hate all of
- 41:53Speaker 5: these people.
- 41:53Speaker 7: What is going on?
- 41:54Speaker 4: Well, it was right after Joe's birthday, and like, you know,
- 41:57Speaker 4: Maddie likes to be like alone.
- 42:01Speaker 5: Yeah, she's a vampire. She likes to like be in
- 42:03Speaker 5: bad till four pm. So she's getting up early, and
- 42:06Speaker 5: it's during the day. It's a really big deal and
- 42:08Speaker 5: she has stuff to do. So I think her biggest
- 42:10Speaker 5: thing is she was like, I just wanted to go kayaking,
- 42:13Speaker 5: like and be alone.
- 42:14Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, But overall, I think she was happy with
- 42:20Speaker 4: the thought that was put into it.
- 42:22Speaker 7: Yeah.
- 42:22Speaker 4: Yeah, she's happy with the thought into it. But then again,
- 42:25Speaker 4: I don't think that that was her ideal birthday.
- 42:30Speaker 7: Pardon clearly. Yeah, like all trash on a boat and
- 42:37Speaker 7: she's the only sober one.
- 42:38Speaker 5: Like okay, like, is there a small boat on the
- 42:41Speaker 5: side where I can like just jump off and like
- 42:43Speaker 5: go home and nobody will notice.
- 42:47Speaker 3: Let's talk about put the connas on.
- 42:48Speaker 2: How did they feel, you know, going back to you
- 42:51Speaker 2: know the r and stuff that it feels good.
- 42:55Speaker 5: I think going back when we first touched on it
- 42:58Speaker 5: didn't really necessarily feel a real but I think as
- 43:03Speaker 5: the trip went on and we were I think we
- 43:05Speaker 5: were there for four days. In the second day we
- 43:08Speaker 5: were there, we got to visit this church and my
- 43:11Speaker 5: grandma went to growing up, and you'll see it in
- 43:13Speaker 5: tonight's episode, but it was just like very nice and peaceful,
- 43:18Speaker 5: and it was very freeing in a way. Just to
- 43:21Speaker 5: be able to go and take some of us, like
- 43:23Speaker 5: some of the group, to kind of go and experience
- 43:26Speaker 5: that and really see like I felt like I was
- 43:29Speaker 5: walking in my grandma's footsteps in a way, and just
- 43:32Speaker 5: to be able to tell her about it after was
- 43:34Speaker 5: like very refreshing and nice, and I felt very connected
- 43:40Speaker 5: to her because I think that growing up religion was
- 43:43Speaker 5: something that was very forced in my family, and just
- 43:46Speaker 5: going to like a private Catholic school and then you know,
- 43:49Speaker 5: practicing and having a communion and a baptism and a
- 43:54Speaker 5: confirmation as I grew up, and just being being at
- 43:57Speaker 5: church like two three times a week was already a.
- 44:01Speaker 6: Lot the community.
- 44:03Speaker 5: Yeah, and I think that, you know, coming out and
- 44:06Speaker 5: feeling disconnected to that part of my life because of
- 44:09Speaker 5: where I was with my family, Yeah, and just being
- 44:12Speaker 5: able to get back to that in a way helped
- 44:15Speaker 5: me feel like I was making up for lost time.
- 44:18Speaker 3: And what are things? How are things? Excuse me today?
- 44:21Speaker 3: With your mom?
- 44:22Speaker 5: Based on things are way better with my mom.
- 44:26Speaker 7: She's at home.
- 44:27Speaker 5: I was gonna go home for Mother's Day, but she
- 44:29Speaker 5: was like, I'm going to Puerto Rico with my friends.
- 44:31Speaker 5: And I was like, okay, Like when you get back
- 44:33Speaker 5: then like okay, girl, go go do your big one,
- 44:37Speaker 5: like I'll see it up for you.
- 44:39Speaker 3: Have fun.
- 44:41Speaker 7: Yeah, we talked.
- 44:41Speaker 5: We definitely talk a lot more like almost every day
- 44:46Speaker 5: my step out of my mom. They both own like
- 44:47Speaker 5: a lot of businesses, so they're always working and like.
- 44:50Speaker 6: The pizza shop.
- 44:51Speaker 5: Yeah, like she just opened this pizza shop like a
- 44:53Speaker 5: while ago, and she I went down for like three
- 44:57Speaker 5: days around Chris Us and I went to go help
- 45:01Speaker 5: her at the pizza shop. But I had no idea
- 45:03Speaker 5: what I was doing, and I fell back because I
- 45:05Speaker 5: was kind of in the lettuce I was I was
- 45:07Speaker 5: making pizzas and the uber each was popping off. I
- 45:10Speaker 5: was pushing them pizzas out quick, and then messed up
- 45:12Speaker 5: one of the pizzas and I almost tweeting on me.
- 45:14Speaker 7: And I was like, oh my god.
- 45:16Speaker 5: But hopefully next year we'll be able to go and
- 45:19Speaker 5: shoot there and like it'll be funny.
- 45:21Speaker 6: To tiktoks in the pizza shop. He said, my.
- 45:25Speaker 5: Mom's mommy, because I was making tiktoks in the pizza
- 45:27Speaker 5: shop and she was like, you're not even helping.
- 45:28Speaker 7: You can go back to the house.
- 45:30Speaker 2: I was like, okay, well, look, do you guys have
- 45:36Speaker 2: your first full reunion. Yes, So, without getting any spoilers,
- 45:42Speaker 2: first of all, how was it? And then number two,
- 45:45Speaker 2: what can we expect?
- 45:48Speaker 6: A roller coaster?
- 45:51Speaker 5: I would say, you, yeah, it was a roller coaster
- 45:52Speaker 5: of emotions for sure. I feel like, I don't know.
- 45:59Speaker 4: There's a lot of sins, but there's also a lot
- 46:02Speaker 4: of resolution there too. I think everybody got what they
- 46:05Speaker 4: needed to say out, especially me.
- 46:08Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, Maddie.
- 46:13Speaker 7: Maddie was talking.
- 46:14Speaker 4: Yeah, Maddie. Maddy had a little comments. She'd be like
- 46:19Speaker 4: and make a little comment and we would all just.
- 46:21Speaker 7: Be like, yeah. I think was so beautiful did an
- 46:27Speaker 7: amazing job.
- 46:28Speaker 5: I kid you know, that's like probably one of the
- 46:31Speaker 5: best Readian sets like I've ever seen, and I've watched
- 46:34Speaker 5: probably for really insane.
- 46:36Speaker 6: I wanted to take some of the stuff back with me.
- 46:41Speaker 5: Yeah, well, yeah, it'll be really good. I'm excited to
- 46:45Speaker 5: see before it airs.
- 46:46Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm nervous.
- 46:47Speaker 7: I'm so ready for the Readian trailer. I'm excited. I'm
- 46:50Speaker 7: nervous and the best part of me, yeah, the trailer.
- 46:55Speaker 5: And sometimes do you feel like when you watch some
- 46:57Speaker 5: like the reading was the best part of the whole season.
- 47:00Speaker 2: I know people who only watch the reunion. I feel
- 47:03Speaker 2: like they feel like it tells me everything about this show.
- 47:06Speaker 2: But reunions to me is like the icing on the
- 47:09Speaker 2: cake to the season is so good.
- 47:12Speaker 7: And when there's a three part reunion, I feel like
- 47:15Speaker 7: they can definitely watch a three part reunion before watching
- 47:17Speaker 7: the whole entire season because then I don't feel like
- 47:19Speaker 7: I have to really divulge into twenty episodes before watching
- 47:23Speaker 7: these three.
- 47:24Speaker 4: Also, because I don't watch I haven't watched Summerhouse, but
- 47:28Speaker 4: I'll do that with Summerhouse. I'm watching that reunion.
- 47:31Speaker 3: We're gonna watch together.
- 47:32Speaker 9: Yeah, yes, yes, you know, I'm gonna be on the
- 47:36Speaker 9: Twitter like, oh, don't mean tweets though, We're just going
- 47:43Speaker 9: to like, oh no, I don't sweet Yeah, yeah, okay.
- 47:45Speaker 6: Don't we have a burner Twitter that we share and.
- 47:48Speaker 7: We look at stuff on there.
- 47:50Speaker 5: Yeah, because you I don't know if it's like Instagram
- 47:52Speaker 5: now you can see when people see you're storring in
- 47:54Speaker 5: the whole nine.
- 47:55Speaker 6: He's like a random white lady.
- 47:57Speaker 7: Yeah, you would never know.
- 48:02Speaker 2: Well, look, I love the two of you guys so
- 48:04Speaker 2: much and so happy you guys came on Reality with
- 48:07Speaker 2: the King and look, loving hospitality is a great sial
- 48:12Speaker 2: range drops, So make sure guys check it out every
- 48:14Speaker 2: Wednesday on Bravo and the next day on pet Cock.
- 48:18Speaker 2: So thank you to so much. Instead of saying stay
- 48:23Speaker 2: out of trouble, stay in some trouble for the next
- 48:26Speaker 2: couple of years, and then.
- 48:28Speaker 3: That's my advice.
- 48:33Speaker 6: Oh thank you so much.
- 48:35Speaker 2: Talk you guys, have a good one, Have a good
- 48:38Speaker 2: one by.
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