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INTERVIEW: Nina Turner Talks U.S. Affordability Crisis, Trump, Dems, Target Boycott & Fast, Killer Mike, Bernie Sanders, ‘The Group Chat On 2WAY’ + More · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: Every day. Click up the Breakfast Club.
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  Speaker 2: Finish y'all done morning.
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  Speaker 3: Everybody is d J n v Ess hilarious, Charlamagne the
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  Speaker 3: guy we are the Breakfast Club.
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  Speaker 2: We got a special guest in the building.
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  Speaker 3: Indeed, we have Nina Turner welcome from Ohio State Center,
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  Speaker 3: the president of we are Somebody, and she is back
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  Speaker 3: in the building.
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  Speaker 2: Good morning, back in the building. Do y'all know I
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  Speaker 2: have not been here. The last time I was here?
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  Speaker 2: Joe Biden was president.
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  Speaker 1: Just told you training I was here.
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  Speaker 2: You told him, you said, stop fidgiting.
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  Speaker 4: I did I know he.
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  Speaker 2: Was, he was ready, but he did already, Dereck Doddelle
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  Speaker 2: so shout him out Extreme Compound in Cleveland, Ohio. And
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  Speaker 2: he's still. I'm still.
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  Speaker 4: She walked in here like what snatched?
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  Speaker 1: I said, about to do an action here?
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  Speaker 4: Look at that.
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  Speaker 2: But and I'm also since the last time I was here,
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  Speaker 2: I'm doing pilates, baby, that's the whole thing.
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  Speaker 5: And be trying to talk to you about the difficulty
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  Speaker 5: of plates. And it was like I can put I
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  Speaker 5: can pick up whatever they put in.
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  Speaker 3: I did it for like a year straight with my
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  Speaker 3: wife and my daughter.
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  Speaker 1: They classes right, And.
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  Speaker 3: You have to sign up for different classes, not just
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  Speaker 3: one class. It's like reformer, there's t Rex.
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  Speaker 2: There is this about with the little arms.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, yes, but yeah, so I did it for what
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  Speaker 3: Every once in a while my daughter would signed up
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  Speaker 3: the classes and I would think it, I'll be tired,
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  Speaker 3: so I'd be thinking it hopefully. I don't want to
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  Speaker 3: say easy class, but the easier class, and then to
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  Speaker 3: be a class that be difficult. Mad motion and it
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  Speaker 3: pitched you on me. So your thighs, we saw your legs,
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  Speaker 3: your arms.
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  Speaker 1: But it's a hell of in the.
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  Speaker 2: Course, not just your abs. It's your back and everything.
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  Speaker 2: And it's a mind body connection. But the yoga but
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  Speaker 2: just a little different and a lot of athletes because
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  Speaker 2: it balances your weight work stretching between my trainer Derek
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  Speaker 2: Goddel and club pilates, I'm holding it down.
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  Speaker 3: I have my own look, I have my own my
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  Speaker 3: own little pul things coming set up.
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  Speaker 4: People crazy, take your chains off? Is that what.
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  Speaker 1: Anyway?
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  Speaker 3: That's power, that's my superpower.
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  Speaker 1: That's what's on the dock at today.
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  Speaker 5: Miss Turner. You know I'm gonna get you as one
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  Speaker 5: of our leaders. So I like when you come because
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  Speaker 5: you just tell us where we need to be going.
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  Speaker 2: You know what, breakfast club team, It's a lot to
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  Speaker 2: talk about. I'm gonna try to narrow this stuff down.
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  Speaker 2: First of all, people can't afford stuff. You can't afford
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  Speaker 2: s h I t so the economy. I am one
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  Speaker 2: of the very few leaders who criticized President Joe Biden
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  Speaker 2: over the build back better When people were telling them
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  Speaker 2: that they were suffering. They were like, oh no, Democrats
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  Speaker 2: don't have the right message. Oh no, you can't afford
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  Speaker 2: eggs and gas. Remember that was the buzzword. They just
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  Speaker 2: kept saying, we're just not messaging right now. What kind
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  Speaker 2: of message is gonna tell me when I get to
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  Speaker 2: the store and get in the line and I ain't
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  Speaker 2: got enough money. This ain't about the message. So I
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  Speaker 2: won't say the same thing to President Donald J. Trump,
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  Speaker 2: who ran as the opposite. I mean, he took advantage
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  Speaker 2: of the pain points of the American people, and the
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  Speaker 2: Democratic Party was just too dumb and arrogant to see it.
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  Speaker 2: They just said, I'm gonna be anti Trump. I'm not
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  Speaker 2: gonna have anything that I'm running for. I'm just running against.
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  Speaker 2: President Trump ran as a full populace, and now we
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  Speaker 2: got the same situation. People can't afford eggs and gas,
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  Speaker 2: they can't afford to live. There is a study that
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  Speaker 2: I want to share with our audience, the Rand. There
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  Speaker 2: was a Rand study done and it basically surmised that
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  Speaker 2: if inflation, if people's assets, if what they could have
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  Speaker 2: us humil aid kept up from a nineteen seventy five
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  Speaker 2: standpoint in today's dollars, that the average family of four
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  Speaker 2: would have a million dollars worth of assets. Wow, had
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  Speaker 2: it kept up. Now we know that if you're black,
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  Speaker 2: it might not quite be a million. I'm going to
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  Speaker 2: tell the truth about that. However, we do have class warfare,
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  Speaker 2: and the people in the upper excellances are winning. You know.
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  Speaker 2: Warren Buffett has a quote where he says, my class
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  Speaker 2: is winning, and he's never lied. The billionaire class is winning.
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  Speaker 2: And it's not just that. Working class people don't have
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  Speaker 2: a hatred of people who have a lot of money.
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  Speaker 2: But what they don't like is when they can't go
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  Speaker 2: to the store and buy food, or they can't pay
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  Speaker 2: for their rent or their mortgage, or they can't get
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  Speaker 2: a certified used vehicle every now and then, there's something
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  Speaker 2: im moral and criminal about that. And in this country.
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  Speaker 2: There used to be even the facade of greed not
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  Speaker 2: being a good thing, gluttony not being a good thing,
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  Speaker 2: even if there was a facade, but not a facade
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  Speaker 2: is off.
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  Speaker 5: And so when they take amanage in the Bible somewhere, yeah,
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  Speaker 5: it's in.
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  Speaker 2: The body and we can make it one. Let's add
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  Speaker 2: to it. We can add to it. So and the
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  Speaker 2: war it has a lot to do with it too.
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  Speaker 2: If you spend billions of dollars killing other people and
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  Speaker 2: they people and tearing down their stuff, then that's less
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  Speaker 2: money that we could use on the domestic side of
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  Speaker 2: the ledger. And also we're hurting our veterans. You know,
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  Speaker 2: you got these Republicans talking about how much they love
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  Speaker 2: the veterans. Well, why are veterans over represented in the
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  Speaker 2: homeless population. Why when they have post traumatic stress disorder,
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  Speaker 2: we don't treat them with the love and the dignity
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  Speaker 2: that they deserve because they still in the ready. You know.
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  Speaker 2: So we have politicians on both sides because I don't
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  Speaker 2: these democrats are useless too, absolutely useless. But the Republicans
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  Speaker 2: are in power right now, and they are not comporting
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  Speaker 2: themselves in a way that says that they truly believe
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  Speaker 2: that America's first. No, America is second. They got another
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  Speaker 2: power that they consider first. The reason why we are
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  Speaker 2: in this world right now with Iran has nothing to
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  Speaker 2: do with Iran and has everything to do with another nation, Israel.
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  Speaker 2: That's exactly what it is. And they've tried for over
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  Speaker 2: the over the last forty years, never got a president
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  Speaker 2: to band but all no president. Donald J. Trump came
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  Speaker 2: in and because of ego, he changed all that, and
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  Speaker 2: so he is not showing that he really believes that
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  Speaker 2: America should be first. Man.
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  Speaker 5: What I don't understand is like, you can have these
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  Speaker 5: conversations right and to me, when you're having these conversations
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  Speaker 5: is because you want somebody to do better better and
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  Speaker 5: it should be it should be Democrats, because those that's
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  Speaker 5: the party that we always go for. But when you
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  Speaker 5: have these conversations people for whatever reason and say you're
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  Speaker 5: an anti Democrat, you're always you know, saying things against the Democrats.
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  Speaker 5: You know, you must want the Republicans to win. I'm like,
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  Speaker 5: I think when you don't listen to people like Nina Turner,
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  Speaker 5: that's when you lose.
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  Speaker 2: I agree with you. I'm gonna put that on the
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  Speaker 2: t shirt mean to.
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  Speaker 1: Turn you loose.
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  Speaker 2: Why does the proposition have to be about the parties.
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  Speaker 2: The hell with the parties, We about the people. So
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  Speaker 2: whichever party is really going to comport themselves to change
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  Speaker 2: the material conditions of working class people, that's the party
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  Speaker 2: we should be rocking and rolling with. We don't owe
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  Speaker 2: the Democratic Party anything. We don't owe the Democratic Party anything.
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  Speaker 2: And quite flank, frankly, my analysis of both being in it,
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  Speaker 2: not necessarily of it, is that the duopoly itself is failing.
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  Speaker 2: They all failing. We got a lot of public figures,
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  Speaker 2: people who twirl, people who got millions of followers, people
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  Speaker 2: who talk, But what really are they standing for? What
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  Speaker 2: really are they really willing to sacrifice? For? Nine one one?
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  Speaker 2: What's the emergency? You know, our sister Tamika Mallory, you
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  Speaker 2: know once you I've been robbed, what's your emergerc I've
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  Speaker 2: been robbed? The average family of four has been robbed
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  Speaker 2: of over a million dollars of assets, keeping pace with
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  Speaker 2: what was the trajectory of nineteen seventy five, saw for
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  Speaker 2: today's dollars, that is the emergency, and send help? But
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  Speaker 2: who is the help were gonna send? It's supposed to
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  Speaker 2: be people we elect to office to bend the rules
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  Speaker 2: to in favor of working class people, and not they
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  Speaker 2: own the donors. I wish I had my dog my
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  Speaker 2: choke collar, because they all got choke collars around them
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  Speaker 2: for the most part, with a few exceptions, and they've
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  Speaker 2: been to the will of their owner donors. And that's
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  Speaker 2: exactly what's happening in America.
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  Speaker 3: You talk about the billions of dollars that we send
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  Speaker 3: the other countries to help other countries in never our nation.
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  Speaker 2: What's the solution, right because if that.
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  Speaker 3: Money didn't go to other nations, I don't feel like
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  Speaker 3: it would be helping the people. Regardless, I feel like
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  Speaker 3: Trump will find something else to do, build another UFC,
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  Speaker 3: you know, ringing.
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  Speaker 1: On the White House.
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  Speaker 3: I feel he'll build another wing'll, you know. So what
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  Speaker 3: is the solution?
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  Speaker 5: I don't even want to just say Trump, because we've
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  Speaker 5: been hearing this forever, like two in the nineties.
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  Speaker 1: They got money by warbcanas.
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  Speaker 2: So what is the solution? Yeah, I mean that's I
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  Speaker 2: was gonna say what Charlotte Magne just said. It's not
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  Speaker 2: it's this. This is a systemic failure. So the solution
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  Speaker 2: is to change the system, so not a question becomes
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  Speaker 2: how do we change the system. One part is that
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  Speaker 2: we all have a role to play. You don't have
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  Speaker 2: to have a fancy title and elected office, but you
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  Speaker 2: have to be in tuned to what is happening, and
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  Speaker 2: you have to make a demand. Once you get these
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  Speaker 2: people elected, they owe you. You don't owe them. We
• 9:19
  Speaker 2: keep talking about superstars. They not stars. They just supposed
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  Speaker 2: to be servants that hold your power and not worship.
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  Speaker 2: And we worship these elected officials and I'm sick of it.
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  Speaker 2: Even for myself, I don't want to be a rising star,
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  Speaker 2: no public servant. So we need people to wake the
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  Speaker 2: hell up and hold people accountable even if you like them,
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  Speaker 2: and stop getting caught up on oh this would be
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  Speaker 2: the first black woman or the first Blackish woman or
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  Speaker 2: I'm sorry I did say that they come for me,
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  Speaker 2: but that's okay, let me back that up. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: you know, the first whatever. I want to know who's
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  Speaker 2: going to be the first to stand up for the people.
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  Speaker 2: And then once we elect these people, we gotta hold
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  Speaker 2: them accountable. You can't have democrats that lorded over the
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  Speaker 2: genocide and the uncommitted voters told them we're not voting
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  Speaker 2: for you, and we don't care if President Donald J.
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  Speaker 2: Trump gets back in office because y'all killing our mamas
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  Speaker 2: and our daddy's and our babies over there. We're just
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  Speaker 2: not gonna vote for you. They ignored it. We know
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  Speaker 2: the Vice President Harris was at the top of that ticket.
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  Speaker 2: They wouldn't even let a Palestinian person speak at the DNC,
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  Speaker 2: even one that they vetted who would say what they
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  Speaker 2: wanted them to say. You can't do that. What happens
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  Speaker 2: over there happens over here. So if you got people
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  Speaker 2: who don't care about what's happening in Cuba, our country
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  Speaker 2: is starving on people to death, US an international law
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  Speaker 2: and tariffs to stop other nations from helping Cuba. We
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  Speaker 2: know what's happening over in Iran right now, Lebanon. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: how do you expect people to respond if we got
• 10:51
  Speaker 2: to slap in each other in here? If somebody just
• 10:53
  Speaker 2: walked up and slapped you, your natural instinct is to
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  Speaker 2: slap them back. And even if you can't slap me
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  Speaker 2: back today you lay and wait. Wars and rumors of
• 11:01
  Speaker 2: wards are a problem. So DJ ANDB, we must elect
• 11:04
  Speaker 2: people who have the Ovarian audacity or the intestinal fortitude
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  Speaker 2: to not be controlled by the lobbyists who pay multimillions
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  Speaker 2: to billions of dollars to be able to control how
• 11:19
  Speaker 2: our elected officials think and how they move. That's gonna
• 11:23
  Speaker 2: happen over time, and then we gotta insulate our own communities.
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  Speaker 2: We just can't wait for elected leaders to do it.
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  Speaker 2: But they owe us. It's our tax, it's our money.
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  Speaker 2: So when they do do something good with the money,
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  Speaker 2: it's our money. Why are we praising them to say,
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  Speaker 2: I'm glad you're doing your job.
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  Speaker 4: Can that happen? Though?
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  Speaker 3: Because you know, we look at these elections, and some
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  Speaker 3: of these are the smaller elections, and you see the
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  Speaker 3: obscene amount of millions they're throwing for those elections. Absolutely,
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  Speaker 3: and then you'll see the counterpart with one million, and
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  Speaker 3: then they'll throw forty million, Like can.
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  Speaker 2: That possibly be the case? Can it happen?
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  Speaker 1: Honestly, it can.
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  Speaker 2: It may not all happen at once on a federal level.
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  Speaker 2: But I got some races some people I want to
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  Speaker 2: share with you. Got Francesca Hong, who's running for governor
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  Speaker 2: of the great state of Wisconsin. Wisconsin is going to
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  Speaker 2: be one of the most pivotal swing states in the
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  Speaker 2: country come twenty twenty eight. She's running as a Democratic
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  Speaker 2: Socialist and she is she she's I think she's gonna
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  Speaker 2: win this race. Now, who who would have thought Ranchesca
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  Speaker 2: Han So she's somebody. You got Juliana Bennett in Wisconsin
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  Speaker 2: running for US again state level office. Got people like
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  Speaker 2: Everton Blair who's running for Congress, and Georgia Oliver Larkin
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  Speaker 2: and Florida. I mean, there's so many others. I hate
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  Speaker 2: my name checking because all these other people are gonna
• 12:35
  Speaker 2: say S and T you support me too, and you
• 12:36
  Speaker 2: ain't name me. I'm glad that my sister Corey Bush Congress,
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  Speaker 2: so I'm in his back trying to get her seat.
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  Speaker 2: So all levels of government matter, not just the federal level.
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  Speaker 2: But absolutely we can start to turn the tide in
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  Speaker 2: little ways, in also larger ways. I believe that, but
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  Speaker 2: it's gonna take some time.
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  Speaker 6: I saw you tweet about how the US is just
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  Speaker 6: like this big propaganda or retweet how it's a big
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  Speaker 6: propaganda syce them and this is the top issue that
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  Speaker 6: should be covered by the press, but it's not happening.
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  Speaker 6: What part does the media play, I guess in keeping
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  Speaker 6: these people honest, because I feel like when you listen
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  Speaker 6: and talk about these things in the media, it's always
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  Speaker 6: like one side versus the other side. But there isn't
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  Speaker 6: really a lot of people taking people to task when
• 13:18
  Speaker 6: certain things aren't happening, and if they are, it's like
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  Speaker 6: it's certain people that like you might not listen to
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  Speaker 6: because you don't agree with them. So like I might
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  Speaker 6: not listen to like a Megan Kelly because I don't
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  Speaker 6: agree with her, but like she's a sharp shooter, right,
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  Speaker 6: So where in the media, Like how what part do
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  Speaker 6: they play in the fact that like a lot of
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  Speaker 6: things are happening, and like we're not even asking people
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  Speaker 6: certain things or asking them why certain things didn't happen.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, the fourth estate plays a big role. But unfortunately,
• 13:41
  Speaker 2: the big corporate media companies have folded into the body
• 13:49
  Speaker 2: politic in terms of they want access more than they
• 13:52
  Speaker 2: want to tell the truth. And so if they start
• 13:54
  Speaker 2: telling the truth about what is really happening, they might
• 13:57
  Speaker 2: not get access to the White House, they might not
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  Speaker 2: get a says to this senator or that senator. The
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  Speaker 2: fourth of state, one of the only professions that's really
• 14:05
  Speaker 2: talked about in the Constitution, it matters, and so that's
• 14:07
  Speaker 2: why media like the breakfast club where you bring a
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  Speaker 2: variety of voices to the table to have this conversation,
• 14:14
  Speaker 2: it matters. Independent media matters because when you have the
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  Speaker 2: fourth estate sellout, then people virtually don't have anywhere to
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  Speaker 2: go to get information. Now, we are blessed in our
• 14:24
  Speaker 2: time and day that we do have social media, but
• 14:28
  Speaker 2: even we got to be careful with social media because
• 14:31
  Speaker 2: everybody can get on there in pretend like they're expert.
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  Speaker 2: So long you lead me to I am the co
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  Speaker 2: are four of us. There's me, the hell raising humanitarian
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• 14:58
  Speaker 2: their a what we call a mainline Democrat, and a
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  Speaker 2: maga person somebody that represents that, and we all come
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  Speaker 2: there no spend just having a conversation as if we
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  Speaker 2: were sitting around the table how do we feel about
• 15:10
  Speaker 2: these issues? Spitting some knowledge, some facts, and some opinions.
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  Speaker 2: I think learn the more we do things like that. Unfortunately,
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: a lot of mainstream media, they will lock people out
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  Speaker 2: because the high ups don't want those kind of voices.
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  Speaker 2: So people got to educate themselves too. We just can't
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• 15:29
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  Speaker 1: Gratulations.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I want to stay there for a second
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  Speaker 5: because what Lauren said, it's true right, Because people are starving,
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  Speaker 5: they hear the truth so much. So when Meghan Kelly,
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  Speaker 5: Tucker Carlson or Alex Jones, whoever it is, tells the
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  Speaker 5: truth about the war and I ran are, or when
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  Speaker 5: they say things like Donald Trump is beholding to.
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  Speaker 1: Net and Yahoo and they don't want that.
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  Speaker 5: It resonates with people regardless of whatever foolishness they have
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  Speaker 5: said before. So how should the right messaging be received
• 16:09
  Speaker 5: by the wrong messages?
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: Well, as my grandmother used to say, a broke clock
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: can be right twice a day. I mean, if we
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: focus on the issue and not necessarily the personality. None
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: of us are perfect. Some of us are closer to
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: perfection than others, but none of us are perfect. And
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: so that means that even perfect seeming people have imperfection.
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: So then that means the converse is true, that imperfect
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: people have some things that they are telling the truth about.
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: And that's how we should look at it and not
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: get caught up in the personality of the person man.
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: And if they telling the truth, they telling the truth.
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: I think it was a brother, Frederick Douglas, who once said,
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: I'll unite with anybody to do good and with no
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: one to do wrong. I'm paraphrasing. He probably said it
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: more eloquently, but that's how I like the role. I mean,
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: I try to roll that way anyway. I would sit
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: down with Satan herself if we can agree on some stuff,
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: I mean will herself. I will sit down with her.
• 17:05
  Speaker 6: So how do you feel about the conversation and we
• 17:07
  Speaker 6: had with elhan Omar and then about Marjorie Taylor Green
• 17:11
  Speaker 6: and then now took her costs and of like these
• 17:13
  Speaker 6: people switch what they believe and like we're supposed to
• 17:17
  Speaker 6: have like a cordial empathy, and you know, these conversations
• 17:20
  Speaker 6: with them, like how do you feel about where should
• 17:21
  Speaker 6: we stand.
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: On the Oh no, she said that exactly.
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: But that doesn't mean we don't hold them accountable for
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: the mess they put out there previously. It's just that
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: on this particular issue we good. You know, I sat down,
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: I had an interview with a Congresswoman, Marjorie Tayler Green
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: on the Young Turks show, ty T, and I know
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: you always have jink on here too, and we agreed
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: on many things. We agreed on the war, We agreed
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: on universal health care. We disagreed on the voter suppression
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: bill that they got going through the Congress, but the
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: Save America Act, which is the Displace Americans from Voting Act,
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: But I put that in the parking lot. That doesn't
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: mean that I disregard all the other things that we
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: don't re on. But we can always focus on what
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: we don't agree on. That's part for the course. Can
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: we stand up and unite based on what we have
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: in common? But no, I know we know what Tucker
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: has done. We know what some of these people have
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: done and said and the mayhem that they've caused. We're
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: not gonna excuse them from that. But at the same time,
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: isn't building relationship or coming to understanding really where we're
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: trying to get us? Or are we not trying to
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: get there? Because some people benefit from people going at
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: each other all the time I thought you wanted, I
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: want to pull you over, for example, on Medicare for all.
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: If now that congress Foman Margie Telllergreen is there, why
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: am I gonna keep hitting her outside the head over that?
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: Because we always can find something to fight about. But
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: if we are in agreement, I really believe another way
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: that the American people can win is forget to doopoly.
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: Let's come together based on what we have in common,
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: and let's let's let's vote in a in an omnipartisan way,
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: not just straight Democrat to the straight Republican. Vote based
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: on the people who gonna stand up for you and
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: not feel like you're wedded to You know, if I
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: had this conversation with a with a group of black
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: ministers too who agree, why is it that the Democratic
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: Party and the Black church is some synonymous at times?
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: They don't deserve entry into the The Democratic Party doesn't
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: deserve any more entry into the Black Church than the
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: Republican Party. We need to start holding these people accountable
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: and making a demand. So, Lord, I hope I asked
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: you a question. We still hold them accountable for the
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: nonsense and the foolishness and the mayhem that they spread.
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: But by God, if they if they've seen the light
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: on a few issues, let's let them see it now.
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: I know some people believe it's a new grift.
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: It might, but who cares. You got what you need?
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: You can use their words.
• 19:37
  Speaker 5: And campaign ads this year twenty twenty eight.
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: You already got what you need.
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: For that's right. It might be, it might be. Oh
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: my gosh, I gotta say because I cannot forget our brother,
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: Killer Mike, my brother on his birthday, happy belated birthday,
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: and it was just for twenty So I know that's
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: importantes and Lord, I just have to say this to
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: my sisters. Not leaving you out, dj Envy, but Charlemagne
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: and Michael Render aka Killer Mike Man they talk about
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: me all the time and sometimes I don't even know it.
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: And I know we've all had moments in our life,
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: especially when our brothers do it. It just really means
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: something to me to have black men have my back.
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: And those two black men have always had my back.
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: And speaking of black men who have my back, I
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: gotta shout out my husband, he has my back, my son,
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: my babies. You know things that make me happy sometimes
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: we got to go to the happy place. When you're fighting.
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: It's kind of fight and not have you know things
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: that you could talk about that make you happy. But
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: I would be remiss if I didn't shout them two out.
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: And Charlamagne, I say that whether I'm sitting next to
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: you or not. You and Michael Render aka Killer Mike
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: have been just rolling and rocking with me for a
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: very long time.
• 20:46
  Speaker 5: Oh Mike keeps your name in rooms that you don't
• 20:47
  Speaker 5: be and he was talking about you on the phone.
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: We were talking, Yeah, I love Mica, oh and Shay,
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: I just I love So I have to have to
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: do that. Something else that we can do. This is
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: a place called rid Affs when we all come to
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: Cleveland and do a show. Because I need y'all come
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: to Cleveland do a show. I'm putting that out. It
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: was started by four black men there brothers. They're from
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: Greater Cleveland. Their brother soul brothers, not necessarily blood brothers.
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: And when I say soul brothers, I mean s O
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: I L. They created an urban garden, which is like
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: an urban agricultural mecca, in a place called the Forgotten
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: Triangle in Cleveland. Literally cars were stacked high, garbage, people
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: with dump and even bodies were found there. They got
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: that land from the city of Cleveland. And now this
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: is one of the most well known urban gardens in
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: the United States of America. It's a model. And so
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: one of the things that they said is that we're
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: not just restoring the soil. They said, if we could
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: restore the the soil can re restore people. So in
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: terms of things that we can do that are different
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: from just the usual politics, I am sharing this to say, yes,
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: there are things that we can do, and they are
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: doing this. Zagon think they went from about three acres
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: now they got fifteen acres. There's a restaurant there. They
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: do to Lopia farm raised to Lopia. I mean Jesus,
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: they get from the now from the now river. When
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: I tell y'all, you got to come and see to Loppy. Yes,
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: things that we can do. And I got a little
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: known black history fact. Okay, the United Negro College Fund
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: does not fund all black colleges and university.
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: I didn't know that.
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: They do not fund private colleges and university. So this
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: is my opportunity to shout out Simmons College of Kentucky
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: that was founded in eighteen seventy nine. Now y'all know,
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: we just got free in eighteen sixty five. Did you
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: hear what I just said? So black people stopped making
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: this kiss founded by former enslaved people in eighteen seventy nine,
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: Doctor Kevin Cosby runs this joint refuse pay for ten
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: years to bring that college back to its prevalence. And
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: right now, because we have such a tax on black institutions,
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: you see, the FBI is looking into the Southern Poverty Center.
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: I mean, we got a tax on black history, a
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: tax on black institutions. It really is a shame that
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: the United Negro College Fund does not fund all black
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: colleges and universities. United Negro College Fund, we want to
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: know why. But in the meantime, in between time, doctor
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: Cosby and myself working on a fund to help fund
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: private colleges and universities, were calling it'll be like an
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: HBCU freedom Fund. There are about eight other colleges and
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: universities that do not qualify for whatever crazy reason, to
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: be funded by the United Negro College Fund. A mind
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: certainly is a terrible thing in the waste and not
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: sharing that money with all HBCUs is a terrible thing
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: to do. So I want to put that out there.
• 23:48
  Speaker 5: Can you talked to us about the Target boycott because
• 23:51
  Speaker 5: it's such a bit I don't know if it's a
• 23:53
  Speaker 5: bit of confusion or a lot of confusion, but pathasmar
• 23:55
  Speaker 5: Bryant said, it was over, y'all said it wasn't. The
• 23:59
  Speaker 5: activists on the ground Minnesota said it wasn't. What's going on?
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: And I was gonna add what he said was like
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: that makes me feel sometimes we're not aligned.
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: Right because we were following with.
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: This and he said boycott over We're like, all right,
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: next day, boy.
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: Gott not over?
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: All right?
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: We confused. Yeah, there's a lot of confusion there. So
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: I started the national boycott of Target. The CEO of
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: Target on January to twenty fourth said that they were
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: rolling back diversity, equity and inclusion. On January twenty fifth,
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: I was out with my organization. We are somebody saying, okay,
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: you do this, We're gonna boycott you. On February the
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: one February first, called up my sister to Mika d Mallory,
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: t we got the roll. She ain't asked, no questions
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: were rolling, and we talked to passor Jamal Brian on
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: the faith side. He said, let's do the target boycott.
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: People started to conflate the I'm sorry, the Target fast.
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: People started to conflate the target Fast with the boycott.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: What's the difference.
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: That's the simple. The fast is an action for faith
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: to bring faith leaders in. It was a line with
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: Easter and how lint and we're supposed to give up
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: some stuff, and it was the pastor's way of creatively
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: bringing in the faith community, which was a good idea.
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: The boycott is the movement itself. It's the unbrella. The
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: fast was an action. So the fact that people conflated
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: that and then left the sisters on the sideline, myself
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: and Tamika Mallory and we said, the boycott is not over.
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: The boycott is not over. And Charlemagne just laid out
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: there's some you know, local leaders in Minnesota and came
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: yeah them. And the reason why I say that is
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: because they maligned me and my sister Tamika's name, and
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: it's just ridiculous that they would do something like that.
• 25:43
  Speaker 5: But they said they started the boy We got all
• 25:46
  Speaker 5: the receipts, But what different said?
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: Why why are they making that a point of contention.
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: First of all, Target is a national corporation. So we
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: got people in d C who has stood out the
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: DC see boycott coalition ever since the boycott started. They
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: stood in front of the busiest Target in the district
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: of Columbia every single Saturday. They put their body on
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: the line. They could claim that they started it too.
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: Target is a national it's a national chain, So why
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: do they get any more claim than anybody else? Myself
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: and Tamika and Passer Brian, we are national leaders. So
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: for the record, I need people to go check the receipts,
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: but also need you to ask the question as to
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: why they want to make a big deal about this
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: instead of being in the fold, of which Tamika tried
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: to bring them in the fold, and they took their
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: toys and they went another place and said that they
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: were going to try to tear it down. The bottom
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: line is check the receipts and check who has been
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: doing the work. Check who's been at the table. The
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: boycott cannot be over and should not be over, because
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: we need to be respected by these corporations. Ever since
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: President Trump has come to office, all of a sudden,
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: diversity echo inclusion doesn't mean anything. It was already a crime.
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: So now if I can't get the crumb, I'll never
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: get to me. Because black people by and large did
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: not benefit from diversity equity inclusion. We know white women
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: were the largest beneficiaries. So if they're willing to roll
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: back something like that, then when we get to start
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: talking about reparations, trying to get a country who never
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: saw black people walking around as equals to give us
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: what they owed are ancestors. If I can't get you
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: to stick with diversity equity inclusion, how are we going
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: to get to reparation. So it really pains me greatly
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: that those folks in Minneapolis would do what they did,
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: but Tamika D. Mallory and myself are rolling strong. I
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: advise people not to go back to Target. As a
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: matter of fact, we need to spread the boycott because
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: we are being disrespected, not only as black people, but
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: working class people across this country are being disrespected. In
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: any liberation of any people flows through the black liberation struggle.
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: Understanding, where was the misunderstanding? It was not a misunderstanding
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: that you're not connected, you're not speak could die took
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: a video in front of Target.
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: Now you got to ask pastor Brian why he did that.
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: But as I am old enough to remember, we held
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: a press conference at the DC Press Club and the
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: three of us were there because we had talked together together,
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: and Tamika Mallard and I we said what we said,
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: and he made it known that he felt as though
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: the fast part should be over. But again, people heard
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: what they wanted to hear, and they conflated that and
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: then people went running.
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: But the fast part is over. That means you're saying
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: it's cool to go to Target.
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: To get no no the fast.
• 28:34
  Speaker 7: That's why I I feel like a lot of people
• 28:37
  Speaker 7: don't even know what a fast is. I think like
• 28:39
  Speaker 7: I think when it was like fast and boycott, people
• 28:42
  Speaker 7: put the two together and that's that's not like you
• 28:44
  Speaker 7: have to know the definition of a fast.
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: Boy.
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: The boycott is still going on. Right now. But I
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: think he.
• 28:49
  Speaker 7: Should have made that clear too in his messaging, like
• 28:52
  Speaker 7: just because I mean, I don't know why he.
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: Was in front of Target.
• 28:56
  Speaker 7: Maybe it just came out something or win in I
• 28:57
  Speaker 7: don't know, but I feel like he s have explained
• 29:01
  Speaker 7: why the importance of the boycott and why that part
• 29:05
  Speaker 7: is not over.
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: What the fast is like well to Mika, and I
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: did explain that at the press conference, but again people
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: ran with what they wanted to run with, and they
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: relegated black women to the back of the bus. I
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: just said that I started the national boycott my organization.
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: We are somebody people can go and check all of
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: the receipts. And then I went and got my sister
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: and we started doing this together and we pulled in
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: past the Brian. We stood up there clearly right next
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: to them, said it's not over, and people still was
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: running with it's over. So I can't I don't understand
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: why people are continuing to do that. It's not over.
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: We're not shopping back at Target, and there are a
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: lot of other corporations. Get what you said.
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: The fastest is voluntarily stopped doing something for a specific
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: amount of try correct, right, So if I stopped doing it,
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: and you're telling me that it's over, What does that mean.
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: I gonna go back in there?
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: Correct, But it was a faith base. It was only
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: for that moment for the faith based community to pull
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: them in. It was an action, yes, but it didn't stop.
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: The Target boycott was one of the most successful. I mean,
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: maybe you could have framed it differently, but it's one
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: of the most successful boycotts in the history of this country.
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: The Montgomery bus boycott was the first. This one is national,
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: and I've.
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: Heard Pastor Bryant say that. I've heard him repeat that exactly.
• 30:17
  Speaker 5: So if you're using the word boycott all throughout the boycott, yes,
• 30:21
  Speaker 5: when people hear you say something is over, they're not thinking.
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: They didn't go down into it. So it's okay. I mean,
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: we're not going back. I just want people to Yeah,
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: we're going to ask some other stuff to that as well.
• 30:31
  Speaker 6: That's unfortunate when that happens, though, like when that fall
• 30:34
  Speaker 6: out happens publicly, because it just looks like here's why
• 30:37
  Speaker 6: people don't know what to do, Like that whole conversation
• 30:39
  Speaker 6: sparks again. I hate and I hate when we have
• 30:41
  Speaker 6: that people try to do that with Black Lives Matter too.
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I hated it too. It paid me greatly.
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: I mean, Tamika and myself gone through a lot over this,
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: and we think in ourselves no good degos unpunished. It's
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: just really ridiculous that people resort to that we need
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: to use our money as a tool to get these
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: corporations to do the right thing. And it's not a
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: lot to ask people to not go to a certain
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: store here or there, compared to asking a whole group
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: of people in the nineteen fifties to walk to work
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: or to carpool to work or be killed because some
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: of them were killed just because they decided they were
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: not going to get on the bus. We're not asking
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: people to make the biggest sacrifice in the world. So
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: I want folks to know, get in where you fit in,
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: you know, as far as I'm concerning to me, because concerned,
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: it's not over, and a whole lot of other people,
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: you know, feel exactly the same way. But it is
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: unfortunate that that happened in that way.
• 31:32
  Speaker 5: You know, I've been following you. You know, I think
• 31:35
  Speaker 5: we I met you like ten eleven years ago.
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: You met me. We were at a hollow.
• 31:40
  Speaker 5: At the follow yep, Bernie Sanders campaign.
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: You were moderating, yep, you asked some tough questions. And
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: our dear sister.
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: Eric Erica going up Rest in peace, Erica, Rest in peace.
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: They're staying, Wow, my god, that's where we met and
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: we've been rolling strong ever since. And Teslin, you.
• 31:58
  Speaker 5: Know, And it's crazy because the messaging, Your messaging has
• 32:02
  Speaker 5: always been consistent, like all, I mean always, so it's
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  Speaker 5: strange to see now people think you're getting paid to
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  Speaker 5: say certain things. I think they'd like to put you
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  Speaker 5: with Jill Stein and say you're part of that whole movie.
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  Speaker 2: But what's wrong with doctor Jill Stein? You know, hater's
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  Speaker 2: gonna hate. I mean, we all have haters. I don't
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  Speaker 2: have time for the foolishness and the folly, you know,
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  Speaker 2: I really don't. These people could say what they want
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  Speaker 2: to say, but are they on the front lines doing anything.
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  Speaker 2: They're not doing anything but running their mouths. They haven't
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  Speaker 2: sacrificed anything. And I appreciate that, Charlotte Mae, because it
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  Speaker 2: is painful. You know, my family gets is hurt by it.
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  Speaker 2: You know, my husband wants to go on a rampage
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  Speaker 2: over these people, and I just have to say, baby,
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: this is part for the course. That doesn't make it
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: feel It doesn't feel good. You know. Cleveland Clinic, by
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: way of example, one of the premier hospitals in the world.
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: They had decided that they weren't gonna see patients who
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: couldn't pay their co pay. So just if you went
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: in there for an appointment and you couldn't pay your copay,
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: they were gonna turn you away. As soon as I
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: got worded that, I called some folks. I called the
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  Speaker 2: council president of the city of Cleveland. I called a councilman,
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  Speaker 2: Richard Starr, who, by the way, rid All is in
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: his war. Big shout out to him. See this is
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: the difference between me and these people that run their mouth.
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: I could wait, Lauren and say, you know what, man,
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  Speaker 2: I'm not actively elected right now. Oh I can't do this.
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: Oh no. I put Cleveland Clinic on notice. I said,
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  Speaker 2: Cleveland Clinic, what you what you're not gonna do is
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: refuse to see people. Could you imagine DJ enemy walking
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  Speaker 2: into an appointment and they say, oh, sir, you can't
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  Speaker 2: pay your copay. We got to send you back home.
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  Speaker 2: Preventative medicine, and we rallied activists, faith leaders, elected officials,
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  Speaker 2: and Cleveland Clinic switched course before it went into effect.
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  Speaker 2: I'm giving that as an example because while people are
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: out here just running, they mouth, I get in there
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  Speaker 2: and I do the work. That's just one of minute
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  Speaker 2: examples that just happened recently. And one of my dear,
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: dear friends, who's an internis in Michigan, doctor Victoria Dooley.
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: She says, sus, thank you for that, because as the
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  Speaker 2: Cleveland Clinic goes, so does every other medical institution. For
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: them to say that they here to serve patients, but
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  Speaker 2: then you gonna say you're gonna turn me away in
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  Speaker 2: one of the poorest cities in the city, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: in one of the poorer cities in the nation, you're
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  Speaker 2: gonna turn your back on Cleveland. When your name is
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: all over the world and you're gonna do Cleveland. Theer's
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: like this. It has a ripple effect. That kind of
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: stuff matters. So now it's come. If you can't pay
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: your copay, that's all right. We'll put you on a
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: no interest payment. That's the way it should be. Anyway,
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: we should not be commodifying health care so that leads
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: me to why we need medicare for all. But that's
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: an example of the type of work. So while people talking,
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: I'm doing it. The Target boycott was another example, and
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: it wasn't just about Target. It is about living in
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: a society that constantly rams and beats against black lives,
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: black bodies because you can't then, on one hand say
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: that George Floyd could have been your employee, which the
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: CEO at the time did the right thing. And now
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: all of a sudden, the President Trump is in office
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: and y'all gave him a million dollars towards his inauguration.
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: Now all of a sudden you done. A lot of
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: corporations are following suit, but a lot of corporations are not.
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: And so we need to stand up and have people
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: who are gonna be about the work, whether they actively
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: elected or not, whether they got a special title or not.
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: Who's gonna put something on the line. But y'alla, Maine,
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: I get talked about it all the.
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: Time, and you've always challenged democrats.
• 35:33
  Speaker 5: I mean, one of the first headlines I remember reading
• 35:36
  Speaker 5: about you need to turn a changes her mind on
• 35:38
  Speaker 5: Hillary Clinton endorses Bernie Standers.
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: The President That was a big deal back then, because
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: how dare you.
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: They tried to make me pay for it. I didn't
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: change my mind for the record, but that's the story.
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: I never did endorse her, but I did do some
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: things so ready for Hillary. It was based on Ohio
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: and how Ohio wan's were feeling. But yeah, I went
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: with Senator Bernie Sanders. I was with him in twenty sixteen.
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: I was his national co chair in twenty twenty because
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: with the person who had the best plan for our
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: people in all working class people by extension. And I
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: don't owe the Democratic Party anything. They don't own me.
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: The Republican Party doesn't. Why are we so in love
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: with these parties? Why do people clange allegiance to these parties?
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: Care about people?
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and then it gets so mad if you question them,
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: which is the craziest thing, Like that's not what I'm
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: supposed to do. I should question anybody that I want
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: to vote for or I voted for, like if I
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: have a problem, and people should feel like they can
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: question whoever they want.
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: They definitely question if I voted for it.
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: But they feel like.
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: If you question the means you don't ride for more.
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: You don't agree, but you should be able to question
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: whoever is your president, your vice president, your.
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: Local why you got to ride with them. They should
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: be riding for you. Absolutely frequently got the paradise is
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: wrong and there's this brainwashing. It just really drives me mad.
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: But yeah, speaking of riding for it, this is my
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: personal opinion.
• 36:47
  Speaker 5: I don't feel like Bernie Sanders rise for Nina Turner
• 36:50
  Speaker 5: enough because I've seen you ride for him. Like I said,
• 36:53
  Speaker 5: this was twenty fifteen when you decided to endorse him.
• 36:56
  Speaker 5: He's having all these rallies all over the country in
• 36:58
  Speaker 5: the past few months. Where's Nina Turning? I like, at
• 37:02
  Speaker 5: least just what AOC is cool, But don't nobody bring
• 37:05
  Speaker 5: that house down like need to turn Let's just be clear.
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: Just the truth.
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: Well you put it, you put it out there. I mean,
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: it is it's true. You know, it really is true.
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: And I've been the kind of person that I've just
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: kept doing the work. But I'm glad that people like
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: you and other people see it too. People say it
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: to me, you know, all the time. So that's a
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: question for Senator Bernie Sanders. And you're absolutely right, there
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: is only one Nina Turner only one and and and
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: black leadership matters, and we can't be replaced by somebody
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: else of color. I'm not of color. I'm black. I'm
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: a black woman in America and I want that respect.
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: Call me what I am, and I'm proud of it.
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: And if you know, knowing all the pain points, all
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: the joy points, I mean, we are the most emulated
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: people on the planet. Everybody wants to be us. Somebody
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: said they want our our They won't know. They want
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: all the hype and the beauty of it. They don't
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: want our blues.
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: But they don't want our blues. They don't want our blues.
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: That is true. And it is not just white people
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: who could be anti black. Other people of color can
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: be anti black as well.
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: Yes, yes, going off how much hate people.
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: I mean I had. There was two Latinas who tried
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: to tear down the organization I was running our revolution
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: that was started by Senator Bernie Sanders and Tuessling actually
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: lost her job over it. And it was two Hispanic
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: women who did it. So yeah, it's not just white.
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: It's a lot of anti blackness because far too many
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: people who don't have a consciousness of heart and understand
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: the universe that black liberation occupies, and how everybody when
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: I talk about emulation, even in the struggle for various
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: freedoms of marginalized groups, the model has been our struggle,
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: which is a beautiful thing. But yet you think you
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: better than us. I mean a lot of people do
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: not all. I'm not saying all in those various groups,
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: but far too many do. So I'm glad you gave
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: her Dunky the other day. She needs to be fired. Yes, fire.
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: I don't know how much more time we have left,
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: but I want to lift up brother Ben Cohen of
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: Ben and Jerry's. He's running a campaign family called Free
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: Ben and Jerry's. Magnum owns them. They won't give them
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: their company back. They are a social justice company and
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: Magnum is not a looted Magnum owns them now Ben
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: and Jerry's. Ben and Jerry do not, but they want
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: their company back because they had an agreement that they
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: would be able to still do their justice work as
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: a corporations. I mean, Ben and Jerry's just put out
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: something about black women maternal death rates Ben and Jerry's.
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: But protesting the one Yeah.
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: He did Ben. Ben is no Ben, so he's up
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: in arms, upinarms dot life please go there. That's anti war,
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: pro peace. And then free Ben and jerrys. There's a
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: campaign a foot called free Ben and Jerry's. Help Ben
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: and Jerry's get their company back. They need it back.
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: And how can we support you again? I know you
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: got to show you, said, I do. Yes.
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: The Group Chat every single Thursday live. You can tune
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: in and actually comment in real time with three other
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: amazing co hosts. I'm the co host. So they got
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: the Libertarian that's Robbie. They got Emma Joe who's the
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  Speaker 2: bringing different perspectives to the table. Said, I have a
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: conversation on two Way. Thank you jes Yes on two Way?
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: Did I shout out everybody? I think I did? For
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: Oh Black Vote watch dot org start started by the
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: amazing Lucas. I don't know if y'all ever have brother
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: Lucas on the show. I don't always agree with brother
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: Lucas but Black Vote Black Vote watch dot org is
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: a place that you can go and really what they're doing.
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: It's just federal, but they want the black community to
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: see what leaders one office because of black people, but
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: they're not riding for black people. I think that is beautiful.
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: Oh oh yeah, So how you get people the dunky
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: other day? They give them to sell out who sold out?
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: Who sold out black people? They want to expand it.
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: It's just federal right now. They want to expand it
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: to other levels. But the amazing Lucas I gotta I
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: gotta shout him out for doing that. But yeah, please
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: at Nina Turner on my Twitter, all all the handles,
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: all the grams and all that other kind of stuff,
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: and we are somebody is. My organization is a capacity
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: building organization for working class people of all walks of life.
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: I am a humanitarian. I am for justice, I am
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: anti war, I am pro peace, and I want working
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: class people in this country from all backgrounds to be
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: able to enjoy this life while they're here.
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: That's right.
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: Change this system.
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: Yes you, Senator Needa Turner.
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: It's the breakfast Club. Good morning, every day up, the
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: Breakfast Club.
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  Speaker 2: Finish for y'all dunk