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Episode 77-Ann Hart Preus · Johnny's World

• 0:21
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, welcome back to a brand new edition of the Johnny's World Podcast.
• 0:25
  SPEAKER_01: It's Johnny here.
• 0:26
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, my co-host BW is uh is busy today, so I'm doing another one solo.
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  SPEAKER_01: And uh today we're gonna take a little break from the sports world, and we're gonna have someone from the literary world.
• 0:36
  SPEAKER_01: Uh we're gonna have an author here who's gonna be talking about a book that she uh has out right now that I just finished reading it myself and really enjoyed it.
• 0:44
  SPEAKER_01: It was one of those books that you couldn't put down, uh, that you just wanted to keep reading and find out what happened.
• 0:49
  SPEAKER_01: And and uh so happy to have her on and to talk about it and how she got into writing.
• 0:54
  SPEAKER_01: And and she's she's local, she's here in Starbucks.
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  SPEAKER_01: So we always love supporting local.
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  SPEAKER_01: So uh without further ado, I'm gonna bring her on.
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  SPEAKER_01: Uh Ann Hart Price is uh joining the show and she has a book out called Out of Texas.
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  SPEAKER_01: Welcome to Johnny's World.
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  SPEAKER_00: Thank you so much, and thank you for inviting me.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm I'm uh looking forward to this experience.
• 1:15
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, yes, it's uh it's a little break.
• 1:17
  SPEAKER_01: We usually we've had so many people on.
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  SPEAKER_01: We I told Brandon our our last podcast we we started this three years ago um as a as a way to help talk about my story with CF and and uh to raise uh funds and awareness through our our website that we have, jonypacker.net.
• 1:34
  SPEAKER_01: And uh, but we really were just getting people on with from all walks of life to different stories.
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  SPEAKER_01: And uh we've had people that were uh news anchors and chefs and actors and musicians, and then we and then since me and Brandon both are uh Mississippi State grads and sports fans, we've had a tons of Mississippi State uh coaches and players and all that sort of stuff on there.
• 1:54
  SPEAKER_01: Um so uh so yeah, we're happy to have you on to talk about your book and and uh and being in Starful is uh makes it uh extra special for our Starville listeners and especially who can go out to the to the bookstore and and and purchase this book.
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  SPEAKER_01: But uh first of all, just uh give us a little background for the people that might not know who you are.
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  SPEAKER_01: Uh tell you I know you're from the Delta, and you told me the other night that you do tours in the Delta.
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  SPEAKER_01: So tell me about uh about you pretty much.
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, I grew up and spent most of my life in Tallahatchie County, which is over in the Delta.
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  SPEAKER_00: I grew up between Webb, the big city, and Parchman, the state penitentiary.
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  SPEAKER_00: So my life was uh a little bit uh on the rural side, I guess you could say.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I had an opportunity to use my imagination, and I guess that's how this book sort of came around, uh, because my cousin had called and asked me to help him with this book.
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  SPEAKER_00: But um, I moved to Startville in 2016 from the Delta.
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  SPEAKER_00: I was living in Cleveland at that time, and um I just thought it was time if I was going to make a move for retirement years, I I should do it then.
• 3:07
  SPEAKER_00: And things worked out, and I found a place to live, and I've been very happy in Startville, met some wonderful people, and certainly enjoy all the sporting activities that uh university provides.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm a big bulldog fan, so I'm in the right place.
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  SPEAKER_01: So you are indeed.
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  SPEAKER_01: Uh yeah, there's always never a dull moment in town when it comes to sports, and we have all sorts of uh events.
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  SPEAKER_01: Now, were you at the did you go to the game against LSU?
• 3:33
  SPEAKER_01: I can't remember if you said you did or not.
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  SPEAKER_00: I was in Fair Hope this in my so didn't get to go.
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  SPEAKER_01: That was a wild one.
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  SPEAKER_01: That was that was that was a fun game.
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  SPEAKER_00: It was definitely for sure.
• 3:47
  SPEAKER_00: But I did write a memoir about growing up in Tallahatchie County in the 50s and 60s, and it's called Stories from the Heart, my middle name Heart, and uh H A R T.
• 4:00
  SPEAKER_00: And uh enjoyed doing that.
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  SPEAKER_00: My children kept asking me what it was like to grow up in the country and not have uh fast food and internet and things like that.
• 4:12
  SPEAKER_00: And so I just put together a few things that I remembered about growing up in that little memoir, and I did that in uh 2011, and I did not try my hand at working on a novel or building characters until my cousin Joe Townsend, who lives in Hattiesburg, called and asked if I would like to help him finish this book out of Texas.
• 4:37
  SPEAKER_00: And so I thought, why not?
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm pretty much of a risk taker, and I believe that when an opportunity happens, you better take advantage because the door doesn't always open twice.
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  SPEAKER_00: So uh we started on that and think it turned out pretty good.
• 4:55
  SPEAKER_00: Pretty good.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, uh I got it right here, uh, a copy of it right here.
• 4:59
  SPEAKER_01: I'm looking at it, and what I really like about the book uh is you rarely see books like this that have a uh a character list.
• 5:07
  SPEAKER_01: I love that because so many uh books that you have with so many characters in it, you have to take notes as who is that, who's that?
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  SPEAKER_01: And then you can go back to this cast of characters list and it has all the different families and who they are and what their occupation is.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, I really like that.
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  SPEAKER_01: What made y'all decide to do that because of so many characters or what?
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, uh it was a lot of characters, and because we felt like it would be helpful to the reader, it just was uh an aid that we thought would be important because there was a lot of um there was just a lot to remember as a person was reading through.
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  SPEAKER_00: And we just we just thought it would be a good reader's aid to include that.
• 5:52
  SPEAKER_01: It really is.
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  SPEAKER_01: People have told us they appreciated that, so we're gonna because that I've known people, uh I remember my mom telling me uh a John Gershen book book she read way back in the day.
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  SPEAKER_01: She had to take notes of characters and all that.
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  SPEAKER_01: So you don't have to do that, it's all right here, it's perfect.
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  SPEAKER_01: Just it's like a table of contents of characters.
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  SPEAKER_01: I love that.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um now now tell us a little bit about the book.
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  SPEAKER_01: I I don't want to for I want all y'all uh out there who are listening to definitely go get a copy of it.
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  SPEAKER_01: You're really gonna like it.
• 6:20
  SPEAKER_01: So I don't want to talk about to spoil spoil it, but just give us a little synopsis of uh uh of it for the people out here who might not know about it.
• 6:28
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, first of all, it is historical fiction, and it is set in Mississippi and some in Texas.
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  SPEAKER_00: And uh we found out there there were not many books that have been published that are historical fiction that are said in Mississippi.
• 6:46
  SPEAKER_00: So that kind of sets the book apart a little bit.
• 6:49
  SPEAKER_00: But just as an overview, just let me uh give you this bit of information.
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  SPEAKER_00: In 1937, Percy Bryce Cato, a young writer with the Federal Writers Project, had a last assignment to locate and interview Buford Hobbes, whose lashing on the streets of Gonzales, Texas in 1859 led to the Brantley Balsell feud.
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  SPEAKER_00: And Cato's search for Hobbes and their ensuing conversations uncovered a trail of carnage and long-kept secrets.
• 7:22
  SPEAKER_00: So um that's that's kind of a summary of it.
• 7:26
  SPEAKER_00: But we have um Buford, who eventually was a Secret Service policeman for uh Governor Alcorn, who five years after the Civil War was able to appoint two black officers.
• 7:43
  SPEAKER_00: And um that was something quite um interesting to to Joe and me, because um we we don't know if Buford really was, you know, but that's that's what we put him as the character.
• 7:59
  SPEAKER_00: But there really were the Secret Service officers at that time, which we thought was pretty good.
• 8:06
  SPEAKER_00: Um the Brantley family had a lot of tragedies.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh John Brantley was killed in Gonzales, Texas, when he went to avenge the lashing of Buford on the streets of Gonzales.
• 8:20
  SPEAKER_00: Then his brother Arnold was mayor of Winona, and a lot of the book takes place in Winona, Mississippi.
• 8:27
  SPEAKER_00: Uh his brother Arnold was mayor, he was assassinated, and his other brother, William, was a Confederate general, and he was assassinated.
• 8:38
  SPEAKER_00: Those murders were never solved, although we we gave a hint as to who we thought might have uh um killed him, but we didn't exactly specify.
• 8:50
  SPEAKER_00: And then there's Rebecca Brantley, who was John Brantley's widow.
• 8:55
  SPEAKER_00: And I think if if you ask people their favorite characters, they either say Rebecca Brantley or Buford Hobbes.
• 9:06
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and those kind of became the the focal points of our our book and um their their relationship, uh their friendship, how important it was, and just just um their relationship actually was uh something that we we dealt with a good bit.
• 9:29
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that uh the Rebecca character, uh you read my mind because she was one of my favorite characters because it was kind of uh made me think, you know, uh with her husband being off, and then she was just a lonely, lonely woman.
• 9:44
  SPEAKER_01: And and Buford was there, and uh, and he provided comfort to her, and he was kind of like a symbol of uh protection from her in a way, but then it kind of went against the norm with the society that that that time, being a slave and you know, uh not being able to uh a woman, especially a married woman, should not uh be with a slave or anything like that.
• 10:05
  SPEAKER_01: So, but you kind of you you you kind of she kind of poured at your heart that character because because you could you when you're reading it, you could feel that that she was lonesome and she just needed a companion, and and he was just a good a good guy that that could reach out and and help her.
• 10:20
  SPEAKER_01: And uh, and it's just uh in in society that just looks down on that.
• 10:25
  SPEAKER_01: And uh, so yeah, I I enjoyed reading that part of it and and that character uh for sure.
• 10:31
  SPEAKER_00: So um I guess I got kind of involved with Rebecca.
• 10:36
  SPEAKER_00: I she sort of took over my life for a while because I would I would wake up in the morning, I'm thinking, like, what would Rebecca be thinking?
• 10:45
  SPEAKER_00: How would she respond to certain situations?
• 10:48
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 10:49
  SPEAKER_00: How with uh being a widow, having two young children, uh facing life in that particular day and time, because it was it was tough.
• 11:00
  SPEAKER_00: And then of course there was the civil war looming, and that was we didn't want to make that a focal point in the book, but we had to acknowledge that that was something that was occurring during that particular period of time.
• 11:14
  SPEAKER_00: Um but Rebecca was uh she was uh we we felt like she had to be a very strong individual and she had to make tough choices and and deal with some tough things.
• 11:28
  SPEAKER_00: And uh we wanted the reader to feel like they they were right there with her.
• 11:33
  SPEAKER_00: So we we hope that happened.
• 11:36
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I agree 100% with that.
• 11:38
  SPEAKER_01: And and uh without spoiling it, you you know, she at towards the end of the book, she makes a huge life decision, and uh and props to her for for doing that, doing uh doing what's best for her.
• 11:50
  SPEAKER_01: And and I I think y'all really enjoy reading it, especially uh, like I said, all these different characters and and uh so the feuds, what what made y'all think of doing the the different families and the and all that sort of stuff?
• 12:03
  SPEAKER_00: Well, Joe, my cousin, who had started this book, and he had he had stumbled upon this uh Balsal Brantley feud and doing violence that happened as a result of the lashing of Buford on the streets of Gonzales.
• 12:21
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, and he had done quite a bit of research, and he found out that the that feud seemed to have run its course after the Civil War, but then it really didn't because there were more murders, more uh violence as a result, and it seemed to just kind of ripple on and on and on.
• 12:46
  SPEAKER_00: At one point I asked Joe, I said, how many bodies have we piled up here?
• 12:51
  SPEAKER_00: And it was eight because we had a gunslinger, and uh and there really was a gunslinger named Neil McCoy.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, and there there just seemed to be a lot of violence associated with that incident in Gonzales that just kept going on and on.
• 13:09
  SPEAKER_00: So but he had done a good bit of research and and found all of these things out, and he uh liked to have uh facts.
• 13:19
  SPEAKER_00: He was he's very interested in having the facts there, and he he cites the research that he did, which was pretty extensive.
• 13:27
  SPEAKER_00: I just provided the the um imagination part for the for the most part, trying to build the characters and make them come to life too.
• 13:37
  SPEAKER_01: So yeah, uh and and Winona, I know there's a I know you being uh uh being given tours in the Delta.
• 13:44
  SPEAKER_01: Is is Winona, does it have the theater?
• 13:47
  SPEAKER_01: I know that uh there's a theater that takes place in the book.
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  SPEAKER_01: Is that still there today, the Winona Theater, or do you know?
• 13:53
  SPEAKER_00: It's no longer there, but the site for many movies uh on Saturday afternoon for people.
• 14:02
  SPEAKER_00: But uh I wanted to mention about the cover of the book because the book the cover is in the cemetery at Greensboro, which is out from Tom Nolan off of '82.
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  SPEAKER_00: And that's where the the monument for William Brantley is, and that's pictured on the cover of the book.
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  SPEAKER_00: And the book starts in the cemetery and it ends at the cemetery.
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  SPEAKER_00: William Brantley was a Confederate general, as I mentioned a little bit earlier, and he was killed with uh buck 25 buckshot.
• 14:37
  SPEAKER_00: One went through his ear, and that marker has a hole in in his left ear to uh show where the buckshot was.
• 14:48
  SPEAKER_00: And that cemetery is is still there, and I spoke at the UPora Library not long ago, and a guy came up to me and said he took care of that cemetery.
• 15:01
  SPEAKER_00: So it really is a place, but um and Winona is the setting for most of the book.
• 15:11
  SPEAKER_00: And somebody asked me how much of the book is factual, how much is fiction, and oh, is a CPA, so he had the numbers down for us.
• 15:21
  SPEAKER_00: He said that the book is 60% fact and 40% fiction, and most of it up until the the portion that starts with the cotton mill is pretty much factual, and then after that is more fiction, but uh we we kind of changed a little bit the date for the cotton mill in Winona because we needed it the date to be a little bit different for the storyline, right?
• 15:50
  SPEAKER_00: But there was a cotton mill there uh at that time.
• 15:54
  SPEAKER_01: And where did you say that this cemetery, Tom Nolan?
• 15:57
  SPEAKER_00: Is that where where's the cemetery?
• 15:59
  SPEAKER_00: Greensboro.
• 16:00
  SPEAKER_01: Greensboro, okay.
• 16:01
  SPEAKER_01: All right, cool.
• 16:02
  SPEAKER_01: I'll have to check that out next time because uh yeah, the the cover of the book is really awesome with that.
• 16:07
  SPEAKER_01: I'm looking at it right now with the uh with the graves.
• 16:09
  SPEAKER_01: So you'll have to check that out next time I'm that way.
• 16:12
  SPEAKER_01: Um now going back to the research of it, it just seems like uh how long, how long did this process take from from the start before Phoenix?
• 16:21
  SPEAKER_01: How long have y'all been working on this thing?
• 16:23
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I I think Joe had been working on it for about a year.
• 16:27
  SPEAKER_00: Okay he had gotten interested in the the feud situation and had started writing uh uh uh the book, and then in November of 21, he called and he said, I think I've just uh hit hit a wall here, and I was wondering if you would help me finish the book, and I was like, Well, I've never worked on a computer before, but I thought, why not?
• 16:58
  SPEAKER_00: So right after Christmas, um the beginning of the year in 22, we really got got busy and and hard at work trying to decide how to proceed with with the story because Joe had done a great job getting it started and with the research and the characters and everything.
• 17:19
  SPEAKER_00: Just needed uh, I guess, uh just a coworker, I guess.
• 17:24
  SPEAKER_00: And some things, some things didn't.
• 17:26
  SPEAKER_00: We tossed around a lot of ideas and and had a lot of thoughts about how things should go.
• 17:32
  SPEAKER_00: He lives in Hattiesburg.
• 17:33
  SPEAKER_00: I'm in start.
• 17:34
  SPEAKER_00: Well, so we did a lot of phone conversations and a lot of writing and sending by computer.
• 17:42
  SPEAKER_00: And Joe might like something I sent, or he might not, and I might like something he sent or I might not.
• 17:48
  SPEAKER_00: But we uh I think we worked together very well on on getting it together and a cohesive story that was pretty interesting.
• 17:57
  SPEAKER_01: I think y'all did because it's very, I mean, I was just thinking what you talked about, the research part of it.
• 18:02
  SPEAKER_01: I knew that took a long time because uh extensive characters and and historical.
• 18:07
  SPEAKER_01: Um, so yeah, that's uh that y'all did a really good job working on it.
• 18:12
  SPEAKER_01: So when did it when did it first get published?
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh we were we finished it in early June of 22.
• 18:22
  SPEAKER_00: So I guess we worked about six months really hard, you know, thinking and throwing stuff on the floor and things like that, which didn't work.
• 18:33
  SPEAKER_00: But uh anyway, so I guess we were ready to send it to the publisher in late June, but we didn't have a title for the book.
• 18:41
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I was gonna ask you.
• 18:43
  SPEAKER_00: We uh we had tossed around a lot of ideas and it just nothing seemed to be what we thought fit the book.
• 18:53
  SPEAKER_00: And so we were one day and I said, Joe, it just looks like nothing good came out of Texas, did it?
• 18:59
  SPEAKER_00: And so, well, I think that's it, uh, out of Texas.
• 19:03
  SPEAKER_00: We'll we'll go with so uh because all the violence did start the incident in Texas, although not the book is set in Texas, but uh but I think people who uh are familiar with Winona and that area, Middleton, Greensboro area would would enjoy um looking at at that book.
• 19:29
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, when you're reading it, I know what you're talking about out of Texas because I was wondering when I got the book because I wonder, I guess this book is about Texas.
• 19:36
  SPEAKER_01: What's going on here?
• 19:37
  SPEAKER_01: So as you read it, I see exactly what you're talking about, all the bad stuff out of yeah, perfect title.
• 19:44
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so we had a good time with the chapter titles.
• 19:47
  SPEAKER_00: We had a real good time with that because sometimes we could think of a uh chapter title and then write the chapter after that to kind of go with the title, and then sometimes we'd write the chapter and then think of the title to go with it.
• 20:02
  SPEAKER_00: But we had a really good time doing chapter titles, and some are literary references and some we just thought of uh off off the cuff.
• 20:11
  SPEAKER_00: But uh we had great fun with that.
• 20:13
  SPEAKER_00: It was just the title of the book that seemed to be the most difficult.
• 20:18
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 20:18
  SPEAKER_01: Now tell us a little bit about the pictures.
• 20:20
  SPEAKER_01: I'm I'm looking through the book right now.
• 20:21
  SPEAKER_01: There's some pretty cool pictures uh in here um throughout the book.
• 20:26
  SPEAKER_00: Uh yeah, Joe again did all this research finding these pictures that he thought would be uh would fit in the in the story and also just just because uh they helped to add to the feeling of the time, uh just so that people would have an image as they were reading.
• 20:50
  SPEAKER_00: So he he was able to find all of those pictures and work those into the story there.
• 20:56
  SPEAKER_01: Mm-hmm.
• 20:57
  SPEAKER_01: I mean it and it all like you said, it all it all goes together because the pictures and the titles of the chapters are really looking at that right now, and and that's uh that's awesome.
• 21:06
  SPEAKER_01: And then the title, I just uh for those of you who are listening to this podcast, I urge you to go um to get your copy.
• 21:12
  SPEAKER_01: You're really gonna like it.
• 21:14
  SPEAKER_01: Um being being us from Mississippi and having all this uh take place in Mississippi, it makes it uh hit hit home really, really good.
• 21:23
  SPEAKER_01: So um think y'all really enjoy it.
• 21:25
  SPEAKER_01: Um any any plans on uh on another book uh that y'all gonna work on or what's the future home?
• 21:31
  SPEAKER_00: Um I've I've been to quite a few book clubs.
• 21:34
  SPEAKER_00: Uh I've I've talked to some uh well, I've been to some libraries and um rotary clubs and things like that.
• 21:44
  SPEAKER_00: And people always ask me, well, what happened to Rebecca?
• 21:49
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 21:50
  SPEAKER_00: And uh so Joe and I are tossing around some ideas.
• 21:55
  SPEAKER_00: I think Joe's coming up with some things I think that are gonna work.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_00: Um nothing set in stone right now, but it it is uh on the horizon, I would say.
• 22:08
  SPEAKER_00: On the horizon.
• 22:09
  SPEAKER_01: So yeah, because you're you're right.
• 22:12
  SPEAKER_01: The reader out there, uh, after they read the book and they know what we're talking about, they're they're gonna want to know what happened, Rebecca, what happened?
• 22:18
  SPEAKER_01: So can't wait to hear that.
• 22:19
  SPEAKER_01: So hopefully y'all can you all get back the band back together and and and and let us know.
• 22:24
  SPEAKER_01: So uh yeah, it's uh it's it's it's a lot of fun.
• 22:27
  SPEAKER_01: Now tell us where I know you were I got my copy at the bookmart in Starville, and I know I saw you there uh signing books for a book sign.
• 22:35
  SPEAKER_01: Where can you get it?
• 22:36
  SPEAKER_01: Um for uh people who are listening.
• 22:38
  SPEAKER_00: Well, of course, I always like to give a shout out to local businesses and the bookmark does have copies or can get copies, and so uh, you know, I'd always say buy local here, but it's available on Amazon and um it's uh also available with our publisher, Book Baby.
• 22:57
  SPEAKER_00: We we self-published, which means we paid to have it published, and uh, but we've been very pleased with with uh sales and uh how it's done, the response.
• 23:08
  SPEAKER_00: We've had some good reviews on Amazon, and if you do uh wish to to write a review, we'd appreciate that, or just give us several stars.
• 23:17
  SPEAKER_00: You you don't have to write a lengthy review, but that helps uh too.
• 23:22
  SPEAKER_00: But we've been pleased uh and we've had a good response.
• 23:26
  SPEAKER_00: I think I've been more surprised that uh women seem to have enjoyed the book because I thought it was more of a um male uh appeal, but I think it's appealed to everybody actually.
• 23:41
  SPEAKER_00: So that's been good.
• 23:43
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, uh, I think I can see what you're talking about, the male appeal with the fights and the and all that sort of confused, but then the women they could kind of see themselves and as re as Rebecca, and and it kind of hits home with the women.
• 23:53
  SPEAKER_01: So so yeah, I think y'all knocked it out of the park with hitting hitting everybody that is gonna uh enjoy reading this book.
• 24:00
  SPEAKER_01: So so if you haven't gotten a copy, I urge you get it out of Texas, is the name of it.
• 24:04
  SPEAKER_01: And uh, like she said, you can get it if you're in Starville, you can get it at Bookmart, you can get it on Amazon.
• 24:09
  SPEAKER_01: Now, do y'all have it in like uh other towns um in throughout Mississippi in different bookstores or um I know in Cleveland because um over there and the the Cotton Row bookstore was and and was getting some more in.
• 24:26
  SPEAKER_00: So um I'm I'm sure they have some now, but any other bookstore could order it from their wholesaler as well.
• 24:34
  SPEAKER_00: So they'll awesome.
• 24:38
  SPEAKER_01: Well, um well, I think that's about all I have.
• 24:40
  SPEAKER_01: If you want to add anything else, uh uh that I that I missed out, uh feel free.
• 24:45
  SPEAKER_01: Uh any any any any uh any new updates?
• 24:49
  SPEAKER_00: Well, uh when Joe called me at first, he said this is just a tale that's too good not to be told.
• 24:56
  SPEAKER_00: And that sort of sucked me in, and really it is, and we we think it is quite an interesting story, and we think it'd be a good movie one of these days.
• 25:06
  SPEAKER_00: But uh yes.
• 25:09
  SPEAKER_00: Anyway, that we don't have the the uh resources or or expertise to navigate that particular pathway, but we think it is indeed a tale that's too good not to be told for sure.
• 25:22
  SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
• 25:23
  SPEAKER_01: And uh yeah, it hits home definitely being uh being a Mississippian and and I've always like I enjoy watching when I watch movies and and you go to different film locations and say, look, that right there that was in there.
• 25:36
  SPEAKER_01: And I really like stuff like that, and especially when you talk about Winona and your Winona, and then the cemetery.
• 25:41
  SPEAKER_01: Can't wait to go see that.
• 25:43
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I'll just enjoy stuff like that where we either you read or watched it, and you know that's what right there is what they're talking about.
• 25:49
  SPEAKER_01: So that's pretty cool.
• 25:50
  SPEAKER_01: Really enjoy that.
• 25:51
  SPEAKER_01: So uh, but yeah, uh go check it out out of Texas um novel, Joseph Caldwell Townsend.
• 25:58
  SPEAKER_01: Is that his name?
• 25:58
  SPEAKER_01: Is that correct?
• 25:59
  SPEAKER_01: Right, and and Ann Hart uh Price.
• 26:02
  SPEAKER_01: So um, yeah, do yourself a favor, get it, and you will be happy.
• 26:07
  SPEAKER_01: Um, it's a it's a great read.
• 26:09
  SPEAKER_01: I love I love books that are that are uh you know, you you read them and and as you're reading, and well, first of all, when you get a book, you're like, wonder if this can be a slow read or fast read.
• 26:20
  SPEAKER_01: And then when you when you get a book and you and you're really into it, you don't want to put the thing down.
• 26:24
  SPEAKER_01: You'll just read, read, read, read, read.
• 26:25
  SPEAKER_01: And that's one of these books.
• 26:26
  SPEAKER_01: You want to know what's happening, what about these characters, what's gonna happen, what's gonna happen with Rebecca, what's Bufer, you know, the feuds, all the there's so much stuff packed into this, into this book.
• 26:35
  SPEAKER_01: So uh I really enjoyed it.
• 26:37
  SPEAKER_01: So uh, and I know everyone else will too.
• 26:40
  SPEAKER_01: So go to Amazon.com, search for or if you're in uh local in Starvoy area, bookmark and like she said, give it give them a review on Amazon and and uh y'all be happy you did.
• 26:50
  SPEAKER_01: So can't thank you enough for uh for coming on today and and uh we look forward to hopefully one of these days talking to you again about about possible sequel and see what happens to with Rebecca.
• 27:00
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you so much, appreciate it.
• 27:03
  SPEAKER_01: All right, bye bye.
• 27:04
  SPEAKER_00: Bye.