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- 0:00Welcome to Reform Thinking and welcome to the deep dive.
- 0:03This is where we try to cut through some of the noise and
- 0:05pull out key insights, surprising ideas, maybe to help
- 0:08you get really well informed on significant topics.
- 0:11Glad to be here. So today we're digging into
- 0:14something really foundational. I think a question anyone
- 0:17serious about their faith is probably wrestled with How do we
- 0:21actually know if our faith is real, genuinely real?
- 0:25How do we discern true Christian sincerity, not just spotting it
- 0:30in other people, but maybe more importantly, how do we see it in
- 0:32ourselves? That is such a vital question.
- 0:35And, you know, it's one that serious Christians, serious
- 0:38thinkers have grappled with for centuries.
- 0:40It's not new. And for our deep dive today,
- 0:43we're leaning heavily on a really influential work, one
- 0:47that's profoundly shaped Protestant thought, especially
- 0:49within our Reformed tradition. Jonathan Edwards, Religious
- 0:53affections. Edwards gives us this biblically
- 0:57solid way to think about authentic faith, what it looks
- 1:00like, what it feels like, what it does.
- 1:01Right. So what's our goal here?
- 1:02What's the mission for this deep dive?
- 1:04Well, our mission as we unpack what Edwards is saying is really
- 1:08to get hold of his argument, and it's a compelling one, that
- 1:11Christian practice, what we actually do, stands as the chief
- 1:14way, the main way to confirm true saving sincerity.
- 1:19OK, the chief way. Yeah, the chief way.
- 1:21And this isn't just about showing others.
- 1:23Hey, look at me, I'm sincere. It's crucially about bringing
- 1:26clear evidence to our own consciences.
- 1:29OK, so it's for our own assurance too.
- 1:31Absolutely. We'll see why, Edwards argues
- 1:33our outward actions aren't just, you know, secondary things.
- 1:36Nice add-ons. They are essential indicators of
- 1:39an inward work of God's grace. It's about understanding what
- 1:43God's own Word really points to as the markers of a heart
- 1:46genuinely changed by Him. OK, let's dive in then.
- 1:49Edwards's central claim, Christian practice, holds this
- 1:53paramount role, this top spot, as the evidence of true saving
- 1:57sincerity in religion. He really puts it front and
- 1:59center. He does.
- 2:00And what's so helpful right from the start is how carefully
- 2:03Edwards defines what he actually means by Christian practice,
- 2:06because it's easy to misunderstand that.
- 2:08Right, you can just think it means ticking boxes doing
- 2:11religious duties. Exactly.
- 2:12But for Edwards, it's much more than just, you know, outward
- 2:15behavior. He describes it as a holistic
- 2:19thing involving the holy action of the mind directing and
- 2:23governing the motions of the body.
- 2:25The holy action of the mind. Yeah, think of it as the whole
- 2:28person integrated the inner being renewed by God, actively
- 2:33driving and shaping what the body does.
- 2:36It's not just the inner feeling before the action, it's the
- 2:39inner reality producing the action.
- 2:41So it's not just about a checklist of behaviors, it's
- 2:44about the hearts inclination. It's spiritual leaning,
- 2:47consistently leading to actions that line up with God's will.
- 2:50You've got it. And that distinction is so key
- 2:53because it stops us from falling into just like, dry moralism on
- 2:56the one hand. Just doing good deeds without a
- 2:58changed heart. Right.
- 2:59But it also anchors true faith, intangible reality.
- 3:03It has to show up somewhere. That makes sense.
- 3:05So he's not saying actions are all that matter, but that real,
- 3:08genuine internal change will lead to action.
- 3:11They're connected. Deeply connected, and he
- 3:13actually places this practical evidence above other things
- 3:17people often look to for assurance, things like initial
- 3:20conversion experiences or feelings.
- 3:22Really above those first moments.
- 3:24Yes, he states very clearly that this practical evidence is much
- 3:28to be preferred to the method of the first convictions and
- 3:31lightnings and comforts in conversion, or any imminent
- 3:35discoveries or exercises of grace whatsoever that begin and
- 3:39end in contemplation. OK, that phrase.
- 3:41Imminent discoveries, Yeah. Begin and end in contemplation.
- 3:45What's he getting at there? Good question.
- 3:48It sounds a bit academic doesn't it?
- 3:49But basically he means those inward spiritual feelings, maybe
- 3:52emotional highs or flashes of insight you might get during
- 3:56conversion or maybe in worship, but which don't actually
- 3:59translate into consistent real world action.
- 4:01They just stay inside your head or heart.
- 4:04They begin and end there. So he's not dismissing those
- 4:07inner experiences, not saying they're fake.
- 4:09No, not at all. They can be very real and
- 4:10valuable. But he wants to shift our focus.
- 4:14He reorients our gaze toward where those experiences
- 4:17ultimately show up in consistent practice.
- 4:20If Grace is really working inside you, it will inevitably
- 4:23lead to something you can see and do.
- 4:25It'll move you, literally. It's like saying the proof of
- 4:29loving someone isn't just the initial butterflies, but the day
- 4:32in, day out acts of kindness and commitment that follow.
- 4:36That's a great analogy. Exactly.
- 4:38The feeling is real, but the practice is where it's
- 4:41confirmed. So for you, listening, this
- 4:43helps you look beyond maybe just fleeting feelings or those
- 4:46occasional moments of insight, and instead look for something
- 4:49more solid, more enduring in your life.
- 4:51It's a challenge, isn't it? Is your faith just an idea,
- 4:54something you think about, Or is it actually a force that moves
- 4:57your hands and feet? That's the core question Edwards
- 4:59is pushing us toward. OK, so as Edwards builds this
- 5:03case for Christian practice being central, he starts off by
- 5:06appealing to just basic human reason.
- 5:08He suggests that what we do is what really shows what we
- 5:11prefer, what we truly value. It's a very logical place to
- 5:14begin. It is very down to earth for
- 5:17Edwards. Remember, true sincerity means
- 5:20setting God highest in the heart, right?
- 5:22Choosing him above everything else, Having a heart that's
- 5:25genuinely prepared to sell all for Christ.
- 5:28That's the internal reality, the core spiritual allegiance.
- 5:32Right, the inner disposition. Exactly.
- 5:34Now, if that's really the state of your heart, how would that
- 5:37become known? How would it actually show up in
- 5:39your day-to-day life, both to you and to others?
- 5:42And that's where actions become the test, right?
- 5:44The proof? Precisely, he says.
- 5:46When God's commands and maybe worldly desires come to stand in
- 5:51competition, when they clash, yeah, when they clash, for
- 5:54example, maybe there's a chance for a big financial gain, but it
- 5:56means compromising morally. Or maybe obeying God means doing
- 6:00something really difficult or unpopular great in those
- 6:03moments, Edwards says. A person's behavior in such case
- 6:06and actually cleaving to the one and forsaking the other is the
- 6:09proper trial, which he prefers. So it's not about what you say
- 6:12you prefer in that moment. No, it's about what you actually
- 6:14choose to do when your deepest values are really on the line.
- 6:18That's when the truth comes out. That's it, exactly, and Edwards
- 6:22draws a sharp line here. True godliness consists not in a
- 6:26heart to intend to do the will of God, but in a heart to do it.
- 6:31Oh, that's a key distinction, intending versus doing.
- 6:35Huge difference. We all have good intentions
- 6:37sometimes, right? But if you genuinely have a
- 6:40heart that's ready to give up everything for Christ, that
- 6:43internal readiness will show itself by actually doing it when
- 6:47the time comes. The best proof of wanting to
- 6:49speak is speaking. The best proof of wanting to
- 6:51walk is walking. The action brings the inner
- 6:54preference out into the open. Right.
- 6:56It makes it real demonstrable. Think about a student who says
- 6:59they really want to ace a tough class.
- 7:01Their true preference for getting an A isn't measured by
- 7:03how often they say it. But by the hours they actually
- 7:05put in studying, especially when it means giving up something
- 7:07else. Fine, exactly.
- 7:08The action reveals the true priority.
- 7:11He uses that powerful biblical illustration, too, with the
- 7:14Israelites in the wilderness, that passage in Deuteronomy.
- 7:17Oh yes, Deuteronomy 5, the people make this big
- 7:20declaration, all that the Lord have spoken, we will hear it and
- 7:23do it. Sounds great, right?
- 7:25Sounds very committed. But God sees deeper.
- 7:28He observes They lack a heart to actually keep all my
- 7:32commandments always. That really highlights this
- 7:34critical gap, doesn't it, Between the verbal promise,
- 7:37maybe even a sincere momentary intention, and the underlying
- 7:41consistent disposition of the heart?
- 7:43It's like God's looking past the words to the reality underneath.
- 7:46Yeah, he heard their agreement. Maybe even they're fleeting good
- 7:50intentions at that moment, but he also saw the absence of a
- 7:53truly obedient heart that would follow through consistently.
- 7:57It wasn't just about that, that one moment of willingness.
- 7:59It was about a settled character.
- 8:02And that tells us something crucial about God's knowledge,
- 8:04doesn't it? He doesn't just hear our
- 8:06promises, He sees our hearts and he measures them by our actions
- 8:09overtime. Absolutely.
- 8:11If our actions constantly contradict our words, eventually
- 8:14our words just ring hollow. And Edwards really doesn't pull
- 8:17any punches when he talks about hypocrisy.
- 8:19He calls it exceedingly absurd and even ridiculous to claim you
- 8:24have a heart for God while you're living a consistently
- 8:28wicked life. Yeah, he's quite blunt.
- 8:30He argues that kind of conduct proved in fact, that such men do
- 8:35not love God above all. It's like trying to fool the one
- 8:39who sees everything. It's a direct challenge to any
- 8:42kind of self deception, isn't it?
- 8:44Or just putting on a show. It makes you think of Paul's
- 8:47words. And Galatians.
- 8:48Be not deceived. God is not mocked, For
- 8:51whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
- 8:54You can't fool God. You can't.
- 8:56You can't expect God's favor if you're constantly sowing seeds
- 8:59of disobedience through your lifestyle.
- 9:01The word mock there is strong. It implies trying to trick
- 9:04someone who knows better, like a kid trying to pull one over on a
- 9:07parent who sees right through them.
- 9:08Or like those analogies Edwards uses.
- 9:10Right. The disloyal subject claiming
- 9:12loyalty to the king while living in open rebellion against him.
- 9:15Where the servant who says I love my master but then refuse
- 9:19to do anything the master asks. Exactly.
- 9:21God, Edwards says, whose eyes are as a flame of fire, sees
- 9:25straight through that kind of vain pretense.
- 9:28He even says that really impressive religious displays,
- 9:31maybe powerful emotional experiences or even, you know,
- 9:35supernatural gifts like prophesying or moving mountains.
- 9:38Even those. Even those can't hide someone
- 9:40who is fundamentally a worker or practicer of iniquity, he quotes
- 9:44Job. There is no darkness nor shadow
- 9:47of death where the workers of iniquity may hide themselves.
- 9:50There's no escaping God's sight. Wow, that's dark.
- 9:53These analogies really drive home that real loyalty, real
- 9:56affection, always shows up in action and obedience, especially
- 10:00when that obedience costs something.
- 10:02So outward displays mean nothing if they don't lead to a life of
- 10:05actual righteousness. Like having a fancy car that
- 10:08won't start. Looks nice, but useless.
- 10:10Good one. Yeah, it doesn't fulfill its
- 10:11purpose, so. Listener, this part really poses
- 10:13a sharp question for your own self check.
- 10:16What are you truly choosing when God's ways conflict with your
- 10:19own desires or with what the world offers?
- 10:22Do your actions consistently line up with what you say you
- 10:26believe? Who do your actions show you're
- 10:28really loyal to? Tough questions, but necessary
- 10:31ones, according to Edwards. OK, so moving on from reason,
- 10:34Edwards then shows how the Bible itself consistently talks about
- 10:38life's difficulties as trials or temptations, and that these have
- 10:41a specific divine purpose. This is where our sincerity
- 10:45really gets tested. Yes, this is a really critical
- 10:48part of his argument. He explains that these trials
- 10:50are basically situations where doing the right thing,
- 10:54practicing our duty, becomes difficult and crossed to other
- 10:57principles beside the love of God.
- 10:59Meaning it goes against the grain, against our natural
- 11:02inclinations or what the world values.
- 11:04Exactly. It feels uncomfortable, maybe
- 11:06risky. These are the moments that force
- 11:08a choice between God and other things because, as Everett puts
- 11:12it, you simply cannot hold to both.
- 11:14But one or the other must be forsaken.
- 11:16It forces clarity, a moment of decision.
- 11:19So the divine purpose behind these trials is to try and prove
- 11:22of what sort they be, to kind of test the mettle.
- 11:24Right. They bring the reality of a
- 11:27supreme love to God to the test of experiment.
- 11:30In fact, do you really love God most?
- 11:33Let's see what happens when push comes to shove, they help
- 11:36determine whether men have a thorough disposition of heart to
- 11:39cleave to God or no. It sounds like God's own method
- 11:42for verifying loyalty. And the Bible is full of
- 11:44examples of this, isn't it? Absolutely packed.
- 11:47Think about Israel's 40 years wandering in the wilderness.
- 11:50Deuteronomy 8 says God LED them that way to humble thee, and to
- 11:54prove thee, whether thou would keep his commandments or no.
- 11:57It wasn't just random wandering. It was a proving ground, a test.
- 12:01A test. Or consider the nation's God
- 12:03left in Canaan, mentioned in judges to God says he left them
- 12:07there, that through them I may prove Israel, whether they will
- 12:10keep the way of the Lord. These big historical narrative
- 12:13set the stage. God consistently uses real world
- 12:16challenges to test genuine allegiance.
- 12:19And that theme carries right into the New Testament 2.
- 12:21James talks about the trying of your faith working patients.
- 12:24Yep. James One.
- 12:25And Peter says the trial of your faith is more precious than gold
- 12:28tested by fire. First Peter One, it's about
- 12:31revealing the quality. Even something practical, like
- 12:34giving money to help poor believers is called the proof of
- 12:38the sincerity of Christian love in Second Corinthians.
- 12:41It really seems like this idea, testing faith through real world
- 12:45difficulties is everywhere in scripture.
- 12:47It is, and what's really powerful in Edwards treatment is
- 12:50his use of the furnace analogy. You mentioned Peter.
- 12:53Peter uses it, but Edwards picks up on it too, referencing Old
- 12:56Testament passages like Psalm 66 and Zechariah 13.
- 13:00Religious difficulties are like a furnace for gold and silver.
- 13:03OK, how so? Well, just like intense heat
- 13:06reveals the purity and value of real gold, separating it from
- 13:10the worthless stuff, the dross, so the truth and an instable
- 13:13value of the virtues of a true Christian appear when under
- 13:17these trials. The furnace doesn't make the
- 13:19gold, it shows that it's genuine.
- 13:21Trials don't create grace, they reveal its reality in US.
- 13:24Now here's a twist that I found really interesting.
- 13:26God doesn't need these trials to find out about us, right?
- 13:29That's absolutely key. When the Bible says God proves
- 13:32or tests people, it's not for his own information.
- 13:36He's omniscient. He already knows everything
- 13:38perfectly. So why does he do it then?
- 13:40Edward says it's chiefly for their conviction and to exhibit
- 13:44evidence to their consciences. It's so we can see what's really
- 13:47in our own hearts. It shifts the purpose entirely
- 13:50from God learning something to us learning something crucial
- 13:53about ourselves. The classic example must be
- 13:55Abraham and Isaac. The ultimate example?
- 13:58Perhaps God commands Abraham to offer Isaac the son of promise.
- 14:02Why? Not?
- 14:03Because God was unsure if Abraham feared him.
- 14:05No, it was for Abraham's own greater satisfaction and
- 14:08comfort. To give Abraham himself
- 14:11undeniable proof. Exactly to provide clearer
- 14:14evidence of the truth of His grace to Abraham's own
- 14:16conscience. Remember God's words after
- 14:19Abraham obeys. Now I know that thou fearest
- 14:21God. That declaration wasn't for
- 14:23God's benefit. It was for Abraham's assurance.
- 14:26It solidified his faith, gave him this concrete testimony
- 14:29within his own soul about his loyalty.
- 14:31And Christ himself used this method too, didn't he?
- 14:34Testing people. He did think of the rich young
- 14:37ruler in Matthew 19. Comes to Jesus, asks about
- 14:40eternal life. Jesus gives him a hard command.
- 14:43Sell all that thou hast and give to the poor.
- 14:46Why? To reveal where the young man's
- 14:49true treasure, his real priority, lay.
- 14:52And it worked. He went away sad because he
- 14:54couldn't do it. It revealed the truth.
- 14:56Jesus did similarly with others who claimed they'd follow him
- 14:58anywhere by pointing out the cost, the hardship involved.
- 15:02Foxes have holes. Son of Man has nowhere to lay
- 15:04his head. It quickly separated shallow
- 15:07enthusiasm from real commitment. Like the parable of the sower,
- 15:10the sea that falls on rocky ground springs up fast but
- 15:13Withers under the sun's heat because it has no root.
- 15:16The heat reveals the lack of depth.
- 15:18Precisely, The burning heat is the trial that shows the true
- 15:21nature. So this leads Edwards to a
- 15:22really practical point for our own self judgment.
- 15:25Yes, he says. Undoubtedly the surest way for
- 15:28us to pass a right judgment on ourselves is to try ourselves by
- 15:31the same things God uses. We should examine ourselves
- 15:34using the same kinds of tests God employs.
- 15:36He uses some vivid analogies for this self testing.
- 15:39He does like checking a building strength by seeing how it holds
- 15:42up in a strong wind, or winnowing wheat, separating the
- 15:45grain from the worthless chaff, or leaning on a walking stick to
- 15:49make sure it's strong enough before you put your full weight
- 15:51on it. So our practice, especially when
- 15:54things get tough under trials, acts like a scale of balance,
- 15:58showing which side Christ in his ways or the world in its pull,
- 16:02weighs more in our hearts. Which one truly has the greater
- 16:06influence? It's a very tangible, almost
- 16:08objective way to measure what really holds sway deep inside
- 16:11us. So, listener, think about this.
- 16:14How do your responses to life's difficulties, those pressures,
- 16:17those challenges, reveal the real disposition of your heart?
- 16:21When you face a choice that will actually cost you something to
- 16:24follow Christ, what do you typically do?
- 16:27Does your behavior show a shallow attachment?
- 16:28Maybe, or a deep living loyalty? That's the question these trials
- 16:32force us to confront. OK, now Edwards offers another
- 16:35really thought provoking idea. It might even feel a bit strange
- 16:39at first. He argues that grace itself is
- 16:41brought to its completion. It's perfection through our
- 16:44actions. That's not something you hear
- 16:46emphasized every day. No, it's a concept that
- 16:49definitely makes you stop and think, but he grounds it in
- 16:51Scripture. James, too, says very clearly
- 16:54that by works was faith made perfect.
- 16:57Made perfect how? Like our works, improve God's
- 17:00grace. Good question.
- 17:03No, not that our works make grace better in quality.
- 17:06It means faith reaches its full expression, its intended
- 17:09function, its goal through practical obedience.
- 17:12OK, like a seed isn't perfected just by being a seed, but when
- 17:16it grows into a plant and actually bears fruit.
- 17:18Exactly like that. That's the analogy Edwards uses
- 17:20later. Similarly, he points to 1st John
- 17:22where it says the love of God is perfected in us when we keep His
- 17:25commandments, especially when we love in deed and in truth.
- 17:28It's the active, practical demonstration of love that
- 17:31brings it to its intended completion.
- 17:33So Christian practice is where grace is brought to its proper
- 17:36effect and to that exercise which is the end of the
- 17:39principle. It's where the purpose of grace
- 17:41is actually achieved, Its operation is completed and
- 17:44crowned. Right.
- 17:45It's not just a side effect, it's the intended results, the
- 17:47culmination. You mentioned the tree analogy.
- 17:50Can you unpack that a bit more? Sure, Edward says.
- 17:53A tree isn't perfected when it's just a seed, or when it's
- 17:55sprouts, or even when it have leaves or flowers.
- 17:58It's true perfection, its ultimate purpose, is realized
- 18:03when it has brought forth good, ripe fruit.
- 18:06In the same way, he argues, grace finds its completion, its
- 18:09full manifestation, its fruit. In these practical exercises, he
- 18:13even draws a parallel with sin. James says sin, when it is
- 18:17finished, bringeth forth death. In both cases, grace and sin,
- 18:21the underlying principle is fully realized, it's true nature
- 18:24shown in its tangible outcome. So the final product reveals the
- 18:28essence of the source. Exactly.
- 18:30It's the ultimate demonstration of what that inner principle
- 18:32really is and what it produces. And this leads him to say that
- 18:36because grace is completed in practice, these practical
- 18:39actions stand as the highest evidences of grace above all
- 18:43other exercises. Yes, the true character of
- 18:46anything, an idea, a skill, a spiritual reality, is best seen
- 18:50when it's fully expressed, when it's producing its intended
- 18:53result. It's when Grace is working,
- 18:56actively producing holiness that it's genuine nature is most
- 18:59clearly revealed to us. So if you really want to know
- 19:02what something is, look at its mature output.
- 19:05For a heart changed by God, for real saving grace.
- 19:09That output is consistent holy practice.
- 19:12That's the idea. It's the visible proof of the
- 19:14invisible reality working within.
- 19:17This is actually quite encouraging, isn't it?
- 19:18It's a just genuine faith isn't static.
- 19:21It's supposed to grow, to mature, and to show that
- 19:23maturity through the fruit it bears in your life.
- 19:26Absolutely. So, listener, what fruit are you
- 19:28seeing God produce in your life? Fruit that shows your faith
- 19:31isn't just sitting there, but is actively growing and reaching
- 19:34its intended expression in in your actions.
- 19:36Are you seeing that growth in holiness as a sign of God's
- 19:39active work in you? It's a call to look for that
- 19:42active growth. OK, so beyond reason, beyond the
- 19:45idea of grace being perfected in action, Edwards makes another
- 19:48argument based simply on the Bible's emphasis.
- 19:52He argues the sheer amount of scriptural focus on practice
- 19:55gives it primary importance as evidence.
- 19:58Yeah, this is a quantitative argument, essentially, and it's
- 20:00powerful. Edwards makes this bold claim
- 20:03that Christian practice is. 10 times more insisted on as a note
- 20:07of true piety throughout the Scripture, from the beginning of
- 20:09Genesis to the end of Revelations than anything else.
- 20:1210 times more. That's a huge claim.
- 20:15It is, he's saying. Look at the whole Bible.
- 20:17Notice the recurring themes, the constant commands, the examples,
- 20:21practice, obedience, righteous living.
- 20:23It's emphasized far more frequently and consistently
- 20:26than, say, descriptions of inner feelings alone.
- 20:29It's about observing the overwhelming pattern in God's
- 20:31own Word. They backs us up by noting that
- 20:33when Jesus or the the apostles are specifically trying to give
- 20:36signs ways to test if someone's profession of faith is real.
- 20:40Yes, when they're giving signs and marks for the trial of
- 20:43professors, as he puts it. Christian practice is almost
- 20:46wholly insisted on. They use phrases like by this
- 20:50you shall know or by this or manifest the children of God,
- 20:54and they almost always point to practical obedience and the
- 20:56indicator. Right.
- 20:57It suggests this is God's own chosen method for distinguishing
- 21:01genuine faith from counterfeit. Even that key sign often
- 21:04mentioned loving other Christians, Edwards says.
- 21:07Scripture clarifies it's not just a feeling.
- 21:09Exactly. It's not just a warm fuzzy
- 21:11feeling towards fellow believers.
- 21:13It has to be exercised and expressed in practice or in
- 21:16deeds of love, as First John 3 makes so clear.
- 21:19Love in action. Love in action and he connects
- 21:21this practical love to obeying the second table of the law.
- 21:24Our duties towards our neighbor. Romans 13, Galatians 5, Matthew
- 21:2822 all link loving your neighbor with fulfilling the law's
- 21:31requirements towards them. It's concrete if you see a
- 21:34brother or sister in need and you have the means to help, but
- 21:37you just shut off your compassion for, Sean asks.
- 21:40How can God's love possibly be in you?
- 21:41It's very practical. So Edwards sees this consistent
- 21:45scriptural emphasis as an invincible argument.
- 21:49Basically, if God in his wisdom chose to highlight practice this
- 21:53much, it must be the chief of all the evidences of godliness.
- 21:56That's his reasoning. God knew best what signs to give
- 21:59us, so if he constantly points to practice, we should give it
- 22:02that same priority and how we assess ourselves and understand
- 22:06faith. And this comes with a warning,
- 22:08doesn't it, about getting our priorities wrong?
- 22:10A. Serious warning, Edwards says,
- 22:12To insist much on those things that the Scripture insists
- 22:15little on, and to insist very little on those things on which
- 22:18the Scripture insists much is a dangerous thing.
- 22:21Why dangerous? Because, he warns, it tends to
- 22:24give us a monstrous idea of religion, a distorted picture,
- 22:27and it can actually establish delusion and hypocrisy.
- 22:31If we focus intensely on, say, subtle inner experiences that
- 22:35the Bible mentions less frequently while downplaying the
- 22:38constant call to holy living, we risk fooling ourselves or
- 22:41others. It's a call to align our
- 22:43spiritual measuring sticks with God's revealed priorities.
- 22:46Don't try to be wiser than God about what marks true faith.
- 22:49So, listener, this raises another direct question.
- 22:53Are you looking for the marks of faith where God's Word directs
- 22:55you most clearly and most often? Or have you, maybe without
- 23:00realizing it, put more weight on other indicators that Scripture
- 23:03doesn't emphasize nearly as much?
- 23:05It's about checking our own criteria against the Bible's
- 23:08criteria. Now, this whole discussion about
- 23:10practice as evidence isn't just about how others see us or even
- 23:14how we judge others, Edwards stresses.
- 23:16It's vital for our own inner assurance.
- 23:19Practice is the main evidence for your own conscience.
- 23:22It's about personal conviction. Yes, this is absolutely crucial
- 23:26for personal faith, for dealing with doubts, for finding solid
- 23:29ground. God's Word, Edwards shows
- 23:31repeatedly, uses really strong, clear language, emphatical
- 23:35expressions to point to Christian practice as the chief
- 23:39of all evidences for our own consciences.
- 23:41So God himself gives us this method for self-assessment.
- 23:44Yes. It's not just for showing off to
- 23:46others. It's so you can know, truly
- 23:47know, in the quietness of your own heart, where you stand with
- 23:50Him. And Jesus himself makes this
- 23:53connection repeatedly. John 14 He that hath my
- 23:56commandments, and keepeth them, He it is that loveth me.
- 23:59Such a clear statement, and he repeats variations of it often.
- 24:03In John's Gospel, Chapter 14, Chapter 15, Chapter 8, it's
- 24:07presented as a way for the disciples to find comfort and
- 24:09assess themselves. If you love me, keep my
- 24:12commands. If you keep my commands, that
- 24:14shows you love me. It's this direct link.
- 24:17And the Apostle John drives it home for her own self knowledge
- 24:19too. First John 2.
- 24:21Hereby do we know that we know know him if we keep his
- 24:23commandments? Right there, a practical test
- 24:26for knowing if you truly know God.
- 24:28John also makes that very sharp distinction in chapter 3 between
- 24:31God's children and the devil's children based on who practices
- 24:34righteousness versus who practices sin.
- 24:36It's shown in actual behavior. And James gives that incredibly
- 24:39down to earth definition of pure religion and undefiled.
- 24:43James 1.27, yeah. Two practical things to visit
- 24:47the fatherless and widows in their affliction and to keep
- 24:49himself unspotted from the world.
- 24:52Compassion and action towards a vulnerable and maintaining
- 24:55personal moral purity in a corrupting world.
- 24:58Not grand theories, just tangible behavior.
- 25:00And the Old Testament resonates with this too.
- 25:02Job says. To depart from evil is
- 25:05understanding. Jeremiah asks regarding King
- 25:08Josiah's just actions. Was not this to know me?
- 25:11Saith the. Lord, knowing God meant doing
- 25:13justice. Yes, Psalm 34 urges depart from
- 25:16evil and do good. Psalms fifteen 24119 Proverbs 8.
- 25:21They all consistently tie true knowledge of God, true wisdom,
- 25:24true fellowship with Him to practical holy living.
- 25:27Knowing God isn't just head knowledge, it's living in line
- 25:29with His character. And the flip side is also true,
- 25:32right? Scripture uses equally strong
- 25:33language about unholy practice being a sign of a fake or
- 25:36unsound faith. Absolutely, Galatians 6.
- 25:38Again, be not deceived. God is not mocked.
- 25:40Then you have passages like First Corinthians 6 and
- 25:43Ephesians 5 listing various serious sins, sexual immorality,
- 25:46idolatry, greed, and stating plainly that those who practice
- 25:49such things will not inherit God's Kingdom.
- 25:51It's about the pattern of life. Yes.
- 25:53First, John 3 is blunt. He that do with righteousness is
- 25:57righteous. He that committed sin is of the
- 26:00devil. James says if you don't control
- 26:02your tongue, your religion is worthless.
- 26:04And maybe most chillingly, Jesus in Matthew 7 warns that on
- 26:08Judgement Day, he'll say to some who did outwardly religious
- 26:11things Depart from me. I never knew you.
- 26:15Ye that work iniquity. Work iniquity.
- 26:17It's about their practice. It's about their practice.
- 26:19This is a stark warning that our actions reveal the true state of
- 26:23our relationship with God and have ultimate consequences.
- 26:26OK, now Edwards does something really detailed here.
- 26:29He goes through specific Christian graces, specific
- 26:32virtues, and shows how practice is the key evidence for each
- 26:36one. Yes, this section is quite
- 26:38meticulous. He wants to show this principle
- 26:39applies across the board. It's a really helpful breakdown.
- 26:42So let's take saving knowledge. It's not just knowing about God
- 26:45intellectually. Right.
- 26:47It's proven by keeping commandments.
- 26:49As First John 2 and Titus 1 say. If you truly know God, you don't
- 26:53just nod agreement. You live in a way that shows
- 26:55reverence and obedience. Like knowing don't lie means you
- 26:58actively practice truthfulness even when it's hard.
- 27:01Professing knowledge while denying God by your works is
- 27:04empty. OK, what about repentance?
- 27:07John the Baptist didn't just want tears, he demanded fruits
- 27:10meet for repentance, actions that match the claimed change of
- 27:14heart. Proverb says God shows mercy to
- 27:16the one who confesses and forsakes sin.
- 27:19It means a real change in behavior, turning away from old
- 27:21patterns, not just feeling bad for a moment.
- 27:24If you say you've turned from sin, your life should look
- 27:26different. And saving faith, you mentioned
- 27:28James earlier. Yes, James 2 is key.
- 27:30Works justify faith, meaning they show it's genuine, they
- 27:33manifest its sincerity. Edward says practice is the life
- 27:36and soul of true faith, distinguishing it from a dead,
- 27:39inactive faith. Real belief is alive.
- 27:41It does things like fire burns or wind blows.
- 27:44Act of faith acts. OK, belief of truth.
- 27:47Evidenced by walking in the truth, as 3 John puts it.
- 27:51Not just agreeing with doctrines, but living
- 27:53consistently with them. If you say you believe God
- 27:56provides, do your actions show trust or hoarding?
- 27:59Your walk reveals your actual belief.
- 28:02True coming to Christ. That involves forsaking all for
- 28:05him. Think of the rich young ruler
- 28:06again. He came, but he couldn't forsake
- 28:08his wealth. Contrast him with Levi the tax
- 28:11collector in lieu. 5 Jesus says follow me, and Levi left.
- 28:14All rose up and followed him. The actual leaving proves the
- 28:18heart's compliance. And trusting in Christ, How was
- 28:21that shown in practice? Edwards says it's shown by the
- 28:24venture a person runs and what he does based on Christ's
- 28:27sufficiency and faithfulness. It means being willing to obey
- 28:30even when it's hard or seems dangerous, letting go of worldly
- 28:33security and depending on price of promises for eternal.
- 28:36Life like Abraham leaving home for an unknown land.
- 28:39Exactly. Or Moses choosing suffering with
- 28:42God's people over Egyptian riches?
- 28:44Or Paul enduring persecution for the gospel without that kind of
- 28:49courageous action? Edwards asks.
- 28:50Can you really say you're trusting he uses Internet?
- 28:54If a king promises you an inheritance in a far off
- 28:56country, the proof you trust his promise is actually packing up,
- 29:00leaving home and undertaking the difficult journey.
- 29:03Your action demonstrates your trust.
- 29:05OK, gracious love. Shown by keeping commandments as
- 29:08first John five and two John 6 say, and especially by practical
- 29:12deeds of love towards others. Not just warm feelings,
- 29:14humility, not just thinking lowly of yourself, but actively
- 29:17walking humbly with God and others like Micah 6.8 says.
- 29:21An unassuming lifestyle serving others.
- 29:23You're a fear of God. Proven by hating evil and
- 29:25actively departing from it to do good.
- 29:27Proverbs 8, Psalm 34, Job one and two all connect fearing God
- 29:31with practical righteousness and avoiding sin.
- 29:34Thankfulness. Not just saying thanks, but
- 29:35rendering, again according to benefits received as Psalm 116
- 29:39and two Chronicles 32 suggest, living a life of grateful
- 29:42obedience and service in response to God's goodness.
- 29:45What about gracious desires like longing for God?
- 29:48Edwards says true spiritual desires are sexual.
- 29:51In practice, they actually stir you up to earnestly seek God in
- 29:55prayer, in his Word, unlike idle wishes that lead nowhere.
- 29:59If you truly long for God, like David in Psalm 27 or 63, you'll
- 30:03actively pursue him. Gracious hope like hope in
- 30:06heaven. Yes, first, John 3 says the one
- 30:09who has this hope purifieth himself.
- 30:11Real hope in future glory motivates present holiness.
- 30:14It's also shown through patient continuance and well doing.
- 30:17According to 1st Thessalonians 1, hope fuels perseverance and
- 30:20obedience. And holy joy.
- 30:22It isn't passive either. Isaiah 64 says the righteous
- 30:25person rejoiceth and worketh righteousness.
- 30:28True Christian joy finds expression and delight and
- 30:31actively doing God's will. Finally, Christian fortitude or
- 30:34courage. That's proven in the field of
- 30:36battle, Edwards says. Not sitting safely by the fire
- 30:39where there's no challenge. First Corinthians 9 and Second
- 30:41Timothy 2 talk about striving. And during hardship, like a
- 30:44soldier, courage is revealed under pressure and spiritual
- 30:47conflict. You see a soldiers strengthen
- 30:49combat, not just on parade. Wow, that's a comprehensive
- 30:53list. So, listener, these are the
- 30:54kinds of practical markers Edwards lays out for you to
- 30:57assess your own walk. Do your actions day in and day
- 31:00out align with these biblical pictures of genuine faith and
- 31:03grace in action? It's a very practical mirror he
- 31:06holds up. OK, now for the ultimate
- 31:08validation. Edwards argues our practice is
- 31:12what God himself will use at the final judgement.
- 31:15This really gives the whole argument a sense of ultimate
- 31:17weight. It does.
- 31:19The future judgement, Edwards explains, isn't for God to
- 31:21figure things out. He already knows everything
- 31:24perfectly. Right, we established that.
- 31:25Instead, it's what he calls a declarative judgement.
- 31:28Its purpose is to manifest his judgement and the righteousness
- 31:32of it to men's own consciences and to the world.
- 31:35It's a public declaration, an open display of God's righteous
- 31:38verdict, so everyone, including the person being judged,
- 31:41acknowledges it's justice, like a judge reading the verdict
- 31:45aloud in court for the record. And the basis for this
- 31:47declaration, Scripture says is our works.
- 31:50Abundantly clear, Edwards argues.
- 31:53Revelation, 22nd Corinthians 5. They teach that we'll all stand
- 31:57before Christ and be judged according to our works,
- 32:00according to what we've done in this life.
- 32:02Our actions now are directly linked to that final assessment.
- 32:06What's really sobering is his point that the judge won't be
- 32:09asking about our conversion stories.
- 32:11Right. Edwards says the judge will not
- 32:14go about to examine men as to the method of their experiences
- 32:18or set every man to tell his story of the manner of his
- 32:21conversion. That's not the focus.
- 32:23Instead, instead, his works will be brought forth as evidences of
- 32:27what he is. Ecclesiastes says God will bring
- 32:30every work into judgement and think about Jesus's own
- 32:33description of the final judgment in Matthew 25, the
- 32:36sheep and the goats. It's all about actions, Feeding
- 32:38the hungry, clothing the naked, visiting the sick and
- 32:41imprisoned. Exactly.
- 32:42There are no questions about initial feelings, spiritual
- 32:45highs, or specific experiences. It's entirely focused on
- 32:48practical actions, acts of love and mercy, or the lack thereof.
- 32:52So the conclusion Edward Straws is pretty direct.
- 32:54Very direct, certainly. That which our Supreme Judge
- 32:58will chiefly make use of to judge us by, we should chiefly
- 33:01make use of to judge ourselves by.
- 33:03If that's God's standard for the final exam, it should be our
- 33:06standard for checking our progress now.
- 33:08It's the surest way not to be mistaken about our spiritual
- 33:12state, aligning our self view now with God's view then.
- 33:15Precisely. It gives us a truly compelling
- 33:17reason to make holy practice central to how we evaluate our
- 33:21own faith listener. It means living now, in light of
- 33:24that final day, knowing our actions in this life will be the
- 33:28key evidence revealing the truth about our faith.
- 33:30It's a call to serious, practical godliness.
- 33:34OK, but Edwards knew this strong focus on practice would raise
- 33:37some red flags for people, right?
- 33:39Yeah. Especially concerns about
- 33:40undermining God's free grace. He anticipates objections.
- 33:44Yes, he does, and he tackles them very carefully.
- 33:46This is really important for understanding his view
- 33:48correctly, especially from a reformed perspective that
- 33:50cherishes grace. What's the first objection he
- 33:52addresses? The first is the idea that
- 33:55focusing on outward practice seems to contradict judging
- 33:58ourselves by our inward spiritual experiences.
- 34:01Many sincere believers feel those internal movements are the
- 34:04real markers. How does he respond to that?
- 34:07He says it's a great mistake to pit them against each other.
- 34:10He argues, remember that Christian practice is spiritual
- 34:13practice. It involves the holy action of
- 34:15the mind, directing and governing the motions of the
- 34:18body. It's not mindless action.
- 34:20It flows from a spiritual source.
- 34:22So practice includes inner experience.
- 34:24He goes further. All Christian practice is
- 34:27properly experienced. He thinks separating them like
- 34:29that is unreasonable and unscriptural.
- 34:32For Edwards, holy practice is actually the chief and most
- 34:35important and most distinguishing part of Christian
- 34:38experience. The most important?
- 34:39Part yes, he says. True experimental religion,
- 34:42faith that's actually lived and felt, brings those inner
- 34:45affections and intentions to the test of fact through practice.
- 34:49Practice reveals whether those inner movements have real power,
- 34:53real victorious efficacy when faced with temptation or
- 34:56difficulty. That's where your experience of
- 34:59faith becomes concrete. He even connects the witness of
- 35:02the Spirit to this, that inner assurance.
- 35:05He does. He suggests that the witness or
- 35:07seal of the Spirit, that sense of being God's child, is often
- 35:11given most clearly during these effectual exercises of grace
- 35:15under trials. When you obey God despite the
- 35:17cost, that action itself can become the grounds for profound
- 35:21assurance. Think of martyrs experiencing
- 35:24joy amid suffering. Their actions under trial
- 35:26brought the strongest evidence. It's like a muscle getting
- 35:29stronger and you feeling the strength through use.
- 35:31OK, what about the second big objection?
- 35:33The legalism charge that emphasizing works sounds like
- 35:37earning salvation and contradicts free grace and
- 35:39justification by faith alone. Right.
- 35:42This is a huge one, especially in Reformed circles.
- 35:44Edwards confronts it head on, calling the objection altogether
- 35:48without reason. How does he dismantle it?
- 35:50He makes a critical distinction. Holy practice as a sign or
- 35:54evidence of grace is perfectly consistent with free grace.
- 35:57It's seeing works as the price you pay or the condition you
- 36:00meet to earn God's favor. That's what contradicts free
- 36:03grace. Can you give an example?
- 36:04He uses an analogy. Imagine a beggar receiving a
- 36:08generous gift of money. The beggar can look at the money
- 36:11in his hand as evidence of the givers kindness and generosity,
- 36:15but holding the money doesn't mean he earned it or paid for
- 36:17it. It just confirms the reality of
- 36:20the free gift Practice, confirms the reality of the free gift of
- 36:23grace. So practice is the evidence, not
- 36:26the price tag. Exactly.
- 36:28And he strongly reaffirms that justification, being declared
- 36:31righteous by God, is only by the righteousness of Christ and not
- 36:35by our righteousness. When the Bible excludes works
- 36:38from justification, it means all our own efforts, our holiness,
- 36:41anything in US cannot earn God's favor.
- 36:44But that doesn't mean those things can't signify that His
- 36:46favor has already been freely given.
- 36:47He also makes a logical point. If highlighting practice as a
- 36:50sign is legalistic, then highlighting any sign is
- 36:53legalistic. Right.
- 36:55If you say looking at holy practice as evidence is
- 36:57legalism, then you'd also have to say looking at inner
- 37:00affections or specific spiritual experiences or faith itself as
- 37:05evidence is legalism. But nobody says that all these
- 37:07things, inner feelings, faith, outward actions, are fruits of
- 37:11grace, not the root or the basis for our acceptance by God.
- 37:15And he points out that Scripture itself holds these two together.
- 37:19Free grace and the necessity of practice.
- 37:21Consistently, he cites passages like Revelation 21 and 22
- 37:25offering the water of life freely, but also blessing those
- 37:28who keep the commandments. Or Matthew 11, where Jesus
- 37:31freely invites the weary to come to him, but then says, take my
- 37:34yoke upon you. Or Isaiah 55 with its beautiful
- 37:37free offer of life immediately followed by a call to forsake
- 37:40wicked ways. Grace empowers obedience.
- 37:43They aren't opposed. He also warns against
- 37:45automatically rejecting the word works just because we're scared
- 37:48of legalism. Yes, he warns against a
- 37:50senseless aversion to the very word works.
- 37:54He thinks this fear, while maybe well-intentioned, can actually
- 37:57harm true religion and lead to delusion and hypocrisy.
- 38:01God, in his wisdom gave us clear practical markers like holy
- 38:05practice, precisely because they are less confusing, attended
- 38:09with less perplexity, and less liable to be deceived than
- 38:13trying to interpret very subtle interstates.
- 38:15Rejecting practice as evidence is rejecting God's chosen method
- 38:19for confirming spiritual reality.
- 38:21So this section really solidifies a key Reformed
- 38:23understanding. Practice is the fruit and
- 38:25evidence of grace, not its root or cause.
- 38:28A diligent pursuit of holiness isn't legalism, it's the
- 38:31natural, expected result of a heart truly changed by God's
- 38:35sovereign grace. Beautifully put.
- 38:36True faith is act of faith. It works.
- 38:39So, wrapping this up, what are the positive outcomes, the real
- 38:41benefits of embracing this understanding of Christian
- 38:44practice? Edward seems quite optimistic
- 38:46about the effects. He is, he believes focusing on
- 38:48these practical exercises and effects of grace leads to
- 38:51manifold happy consequence. Many good things follow.
- 38:54First, he says, it tends to the conviction of deluded
- 38:57hypocrites. It shines a light on the
- 38:59mismatch between their claims and their lives, making self
- 39:03deception harder. It acts like a reality check.
- 39:05Exactly, which leads to the second point.
- 39:08It helps prevent the delusion of those whose hearts were never
- 39:11brought to a thorough compliance with the straight and narrow
- 39:14way. It stops people from assuming
- 39:17they're Christians when their lives show no evidence.
- 39:20What else? It delivers people from
- 39:21innumerable perplexities about spiritual experiences.
- 39:25It simplifies things by focusing on the clear, objective evidence
- 39:29God points to in Scripture rather than getting lost trying
- 39:32to analyze every feeling or inner impression.
- 39:34It brings clarity. That sounds helpful.
- 39:37Does it motivate believers? Greatly, Edwards says, it tends
- 39:40to promote their engagedness and earnestness in their Christian
- 39:43walk. When you see practice as
- 39:45central, not optional, it naturally fuels diligence and
- 39:48intentionality and living for Christ daily.
- 39:51He also suggests it would change how Christians present
- 39:53themselves. Yes, he envisions it becoming
- 39:55fashionable for men to show their Christianity more by an
- 39:59amiable, distinguished behavior than by an abundant and
- 40:02excessive declaring their experiences.
- 40:05The focus shifts from talk to walk.
- 40:08Christians would be known more by their character and deeds
- 40:11than by constantly recounting subjective feelings.
- 40:13And that would have broader effects too.
- 40:15Definitely, he thinks many occasions for spiritual pride
- 40:19would be cut off, and a great many of the main stumbling
- 40:22blocks against experimental and powerful religion would be
- 40:24removed. When Christians live
- 40:26consistently holy lives, it makes faith more credible,
- 40:30removes grounds for hypocrisy charges, and clears obstacles
- 40:33for others considering Christ. So it impacts witness.
- 40:36Hugely, Edwards concludes that if this view prevailed, religion
- 40:40will be declared and manifested in such a way that, instead of
- 40:42hardening, spectators would, above all things, tend to
- 40:46convince men that there is a reality in religion and greatly
- 40:49awaken them and win them. So our practice becomes a
- 40:52powerful testimony. The most powerful.
- 40:55Thus the light of professors would so shine before men that
- 40:58others, seeing their good works, would glorify their Father,
- 41:01which is in heaven. It's about the Church being a
- 41:04compelling, attractive witness to the world, showing the beauty
- 41:08and reality of lives transformed by grace.
- 41:11This really lands as a call to action, doesn't it?
- 41:13Listener to genuinely live out your faith in tangible ways.
- 41:17For your own assurance, yes, but also for the health of the
- 41:19church and ultimately for God's glory in the world.
- 41:22That sums it up well. Well, we hope this deep dive
- 41:25into Jonathan Edwards, his thoughts on Christian practice
- 41:28has brought some clarity, maybe challenged you a bit to consider
- 41:31the tangible outworking of your own faith.
- 41:34It really is a call to examine your walk, your daily actions,
- 41:37not just your internal world. Indeed, and may you find a
- 41:42growing assurance and real joy as you faithfully seek to apply
- 41:45these truths. May you allow your life to bear
- 41:48that clear witness to the wonderful grace of God in
- 41:51Christ. May your actions truly reflect
- 41:53the work God is doing in your heart, confirming it to you and
- 41:56to those around you. Thank you for joining us on this
- 41:58deep dive into Reformed thinking.
- 42:00Until next time, keep seeking wisdom, keep digging into God's
- 42:04Word, and may your actions truly speak volumes about the reality
- 42:07of your faith.