Latest / Sid & Friends In The Morning / Alex Traiman | CEO of Jewish News Syndicate Reports from Israel on the Jewish State's Election Day
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- 0:00Speaker 1: 2.18 p.m. in the afternoon in lovely Jerusalem. Let's go
- 0:03Speaker 1: there for our dear friend Alex Tremen, the CEO of JNS.org,
- 0:09Speaker 1: is standing by. Alex, good afternoon, buddy. How are you?
- 0:13Speaker 2: Good afternoon.
- 0:14Speaker 1: Doing well.
- 0:15Speaker 2: Just came from casting my vote here in the holy
- 0:18Speaker 2: city of Jerusalem.
- 0:19Speaker 1: And let me guess. You voted for... I got to
- 0:24Speaker 1: think about this for a second. You voted for Eisenkot.
- 0:30Speaker 2: I'm not going to spill the beans where I voted.
- 0:32Speaker 2: A lot of choices here, but I think you know
- 0:38Speaker 2: where I stand on these elections.
- 0:40Speaker 1: You voted for Bibi. Stop the nonsense. You voted for Bibi,
- 0:43Speaker 1: and you did it enthusiastically like I would do, too. But,
- 0:47Speaker 1: you know, we've got a lot of similarities between our
- 0:50Speaker 1: two leaders, which are great leaders, President Trump in America
- 0:54Speaker 1: and Bibi in Israel, two amazing leaders. And there's also
- 0:58Speaker 1: a lot of similarities in what happens when it comes
- 1:01Speaker 1: election time. What am I talking about? Stealing elections, you know, fraud, cheating,
- 1:06Speaker 1: all that stuff. So John Katzmatidis is playing, paying, I
- 1:11Speaker 1: should say, close attention to this race. And he keeps
- 1:14Speaker 1: texting me. He sent me something this morning about a
- 1:17Speaker 1: bunch of arrests made last night. And then they have
- 1:20Speaker 1: people like cash, a boss ballots. What the hell was
- 1:24Speaker 1: that all about?
- 1:26Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right. Three people were arrested overnight in an
- 1:30Speaker 2: Arab district where people had, as you said, piles of
- 1:34Speaker 2: cash and pre-filled out ballots and envelopes. So what they
- 1:40Speaker 2: were going to do is try to get people to
- 1:44Speaker 2: pay them to come to the voting booth and to
- 1:47Speaker 2: deliver the votes that they wanted. But I'll tell you,
- 1:49Speaker 2: I think that the Israeli system is much safer against
- 1:54Speaker 2: widespread fraud. than the United States. I remember coming here
- 1:58Speaker 2: first time voting in 2005, and I was shocked because
- 2:01Speaker 2: the way you vote is you, one person goes into
- 2:05Speaker 2: the voting room at a time. You have to present
- 2:08Speaker 2: your identification. There's three different people sitting there checking your
- 2:11Speaker 2: name off on the list. You're assigned to specific booths.
- 2:14Speaker 2: You can't go anywhere you want. You got to go
- 2:16Speaker 2: to a specific place where you're assigned. They check your
- 2:18Speaker 2: name off on three different lists. They hold your state
- 2:22Speaker 2: issue identification. You cannot vote without presenting that. Then you
- 2:25Speaker 2: get an envelope. You take that envelope. You walk behind
- 2:28Speaker 2: a little cardboard booth. There are basically 30 little pieces
- 2:34Speaker 2: of paper, each one representing one of the political parties.
- 2:38Speaker 2: You have to select one. Nobody watches what you do.
- 2:40Speaker 2: You select one party piece of paper. You stick it
- 2:43Speaker 2: in the envelope. You seal the envelope. So you bring
- 2:46Speaker 2: it back, you put it inside a cardboard box, and
- 2:49Speaker 2: then you take your identification and you leave. And there
- 2:52Speaker 2: are many people at every booth representing different parties, making
- 2:57Speaker 2: sure that each person that came in is who they
- 2:58Speaker 2: say they are, and then counting the votes as they
- 3:02Speaker 2: come in. And so while it seems backwards, and I
- 3:05Speaker 2: thought to myself, wow, in America you have voting booths,
- 3:08Speaker 2: and this is a startup nation, and can't we vote
- 3:10Speaker 2: on an app? or something like that. After you see
- 3:13Speaker 2: what's happened in American elections and in other elections, you
- 3:16Speaker 2: actually think, wow, I'll take this paper voting system. And
- 3:21Speaker 2: while there can be some fraud, especially in Arab areas
- 3:24Speaker 2: where they try to rig the system there, and we
- 3:27Speaker 2: could talk about that more, I would say by and large,
- 3:30Speaker 2: this is a pretty safe and trusted voting system.
- 3:34Speaker 1: Do you have mail-in ballots there?
- 3:37Speaker 2: There's no mail-in ballots. There's no absentee votes, with the
- 3:40Speaker 2: exception of diplomats that are abroad. You cannot mail in
- 3:45Speaker 2: a vote. You must show up in person at your
- 3:48Speaker 2: assigned voting booth to cast your vote on Election Day
- 3:51Speaker 2: during the specific hours from 8 a.m. to 10 p.m.
- 3:54Speaker 1: Exactly what we should do here in the United States.
- 3:56Speaker 1: These mail-in ballots are a bunch of nonsense. And then,
- 3:59Speaker 1: of course, the president and my team, because I'm on
- 4:02Speaker 1: the right side, literally and figuratively, we're trying to pass
- 4:05Speaker 1: this Save America Act. And the momentum behind that is
- 4:10Speaker 1: every American should have to show ID before they vote
- 4:14Speaker 1: because we know that illegals... that are very thankful to
- 4:19Speaker 1: the Democrats, come here and vote in numbers, and they're
- 4:23Speaker 1: not supposed to be voting. Then you get dead people
- 4:26Speaker 1: voting all kinds of nonsense. So we're trying to get
- 4:28Speaker 1: this Save America Act passed. I would imagine in Israel,
- 4:31Speaker 1: like you just pointed out, everybody must show ID, right?
- 4:36Speaker 2: You must show your state-issued ID. Without it, you cannot vote.
- 4:39Speaker 2: And again, you must take that ID, show it to
- 4:42Speaker 2: multiple people. They check that you are the person who
- 4:44Speaker 2: you represent yourself to be, and it's only in the
- 4:47Speaker 2: assigned room within a greater voting station that you are assigned.
- 4:51Speaker 3: To be at.
- 4:53Speaker 1: Unreal. You guys got it right there. We're still like
- 4:55Speaker 1: idiots here in America. I do know that it's not illegal,
- 5:00Speaker 1: but it does seem somewhat unethical. And I was talking
- 5:03Speaker 1: to Ophir Falk about this, Bibi's senior policy advisor. He's
- 5:08Speaker 1: going to join me live from Israel in about an
- 5:10Speaker 1: hour and a half. Alex, I got you covered in
- 5:12Speaker 1: Israel today. He was saying that they've got proof that
- 5:16Speaker 1: there are people on the left in Israel that purchased
- 5:21Speaker 1: airplane tickets for people in New York, for example, because
- 5:25Speaker 1: you can't vote from New York like you just said.
- 5:27Speaker 1: You have to be in Israel to vote, that there
- 5:29Speaker 1: are people anti-Bibi Israel who that spent a lot of
- 5:33Speaker 1: money flying people back to Israel to make sure they
- 5:37Speaker 1: voted against Bibi Netanyahu. Can you confirm or deny that?
- 5:43Speaker 2: Well, we've seen the reports. It's being reported that as
- 5:46Speaker 2: many as 60,000 Israelis from abroad have flown in for elections.
- 5:51Speaker 2: And as you mentioned, regarding left-wing parties, we saw people
- 5:54Speaker 2: arriving yesterday with T-shirts of left-wing parties saying that they're
- 5:59Speaker 2: coming to save the democracy. People that don't want to
- 6:02Speaker 2: live in Israel anymore because they don't like it here,
- 6:04Speaker 2: flying abroad, living abroad, flying back here to try to
- 6:08Speaker 2: impact the elections. And the question is not whether... somebody
- 6:12Speaker 2: can pay for your ticket to come to Israel. I
- 6:14Speaker 2: guess somebody can. There's nothing really illegal with that. The
- 6:18Speaker 2: question is whether there are NGOs, especially U.S.-based 501c3 nonprofit
- 6:24Speaker 2: organizations that are raising money from tax-free contributions and then
- 6:29Speaker 2: using those tax-free contributions to fund people's flights to Israel
- 6:33Speaker 2: to vote in the elections. And that's electioneering and that's
- 6:36Speaker 2: illegal under U.S. law. And we've seen it in previous
- 6:39Speaker 2: elections and even in between elections, how U.S.-based NGOs raising
- 6:44Speaker 2: money from American contributors and philanthropists tax-free are doing everything
- 6:51Speaker 2: that they can to influence Israeli elections, and it's illegal
- 6:55Speaker 2: under U.S. law. Those organizations should lose their tax-free status.
- 7:00Speaker 1: Well, let's find out who they are. Can we do that? Yes.
- 7:04Speaker 2: In fact, we already know that this is something that
- 7:07Speaker 2: is been taking place over many elections. We know that
- 7:10Speaker 2: the Obama administration in 2015, not only was money coming
- 7:15Speaker 2: over here from NGOs, but the State Department and the
- 7:19Speaker 2: USAID actually sent over money for the creation of V15.
- 7:23Speaker 2: It was an NGO set up in Israel specifically to
- 7:27Speaker 2: promote the candidacy of current president, but then Labor Party
- 7:31Speaker 2: leader Isaac Herzog In his election campaign against Prime Minister Netanyahu,
- 7:36Speaker 2: they sent over money. They sent over their top advisors,
- 7:40Speaker 2: the Obama administration did, everything that they could to try
- 7:44Speaker 2: to affect the election and get Netanyahu out of office.
- 7:47Speaker 2: And that was not just Obama. It went back to
- 7:51Speaker 2: the Clinton administration. I actually reported that it came out.
- 7:56Speaker 2: Clinton said it openly that he did everything that he could.
- 7:59Speaker 2: to try to get Netanyahu out of office in in
- 8:04Speaker 2: in 96 or 99. And this has been typical, you know,
- 8:10Speaker 2: that people now President Trump, you know, he endorses Netanyahu
- 8:14Speaker 2: as the sitting incumbent, which, you know, makes a lot
- 8:16Speaker 2: of sense. And then people are saying, how can a U.S.
- 8:19Speaker 2: president try to impact the Israeli elections? Well, this has
- 8:22Speaker 2: been going on for decades.
- 8:24Speaker 1: Yeah, please, stupid. Alex, tell me this. So Mark Levine
- 8:30Speaker 1: did a great video last night, which I posted on
- 8:32Speaker 1: my social media. And he talked about, you know, winter
- 8:36Speaker 1: and he talked about Eisenhower. And he said specifically with Eisenhower.
- 8:40Speaker 1: This is a guy that's going to have Arabs in
- 8:43Speaker 1: his coalition, the same Arabs who are against the Iran war,
- 8:49Speaker 1: the same Arabs that are not happy with Israel for
- 8:53Speaker 1: fighting the Houthis in Yemen or Hezbollah in Lebanon. These
- 8:59Speaker 1: are the same Arabs that may end up in Eisenkot's coalition.
- 9:04Speaker 1: How could you possibly vote for something like that? Is
- 9:07Speaker 1: Levin right?
- 9:09Speaker 2: Well, we had it before. When Naftali Bennett became the
- 9:12Speaker 2: prime minister, there were Arabs in that coalition. There were Arabs,
- 9:17Speaker 2: and every left-wing member of the Knesset came together for
- 9:19Speaker 2: the first time in history to form a blocking coalition
- 9:22Speaker 2: to prevent Netanyahu from being prime minister. They had that
- 9:26Speaker 2: little coalition together for about a year and a half,
- 9:28Speaker 2: and then Netanyahu won another election, and he came back
- 9:31Speaker 2: into office. I don't think that Eisenkot is going to
- 9:34Speaker 2: sit with the Arabs officially in the coalition, but what
- 9:37Speaker 2: they're talking about is... presenting a minority coalition where you
- 9:42Speaker 2: don't have 61 out of the 120 Knesset members. You
- 9:46Speaker 2: only have 50-something. But we're relying on Arab votes to
- 9:50Speaker 2: pass that minority government. So essentially it is like Arabs
- 9:55Speaker 2: voting for that government, even though they don't officially sit
- 9:58Speaker 2: inside that coalition. But I think that there's even bigger questions.
- 10:03Speaker 2: And that is, you know, how would Gadi Eizenkot stand
- 10:06Speaker 2: up to international pressure on Israel? For example, if the
- 10:11Speaker 2: international community says to Gadi Eizenkot, we want you to
- 10:15Speaker 2: remove all troops from Gaza. Otherwise, there's going to be
- 10:20Speaker 2: sanctions on your banks. or weapons embargoes? Is he going
- 10:24Speaker 2: to keep Israeli troops inside the Gaza Strip, or is
- 10:27Speaker 2: he going to pull them all out?
- 10:28Speaker 1: He's going to pull them out.
- 10:30Speaker 2: Exactly. They tell Gadi Eizenkot, if you do not pull
- 10:37Speaker 2: out from Judea and Samaria, we're going to recognize a
- 10:43Speaker 2: Palestinian state. Is he going to stand up to that,
- 10:46Speaker 2: and how is he going to maneuver on the international level?
- 10:49Speaker 2: Does he have any experience? maneuvering internationally. So these are,
- 10:53Speaker 2: I think, some of the big questions. People think that
- 10:55Speaker 2: it's just a question of Netanyahu and his cult of personality,
- 10:58Speaker 2: but there are very, very serious policy issues that relate
- 11:02Speaker 2: to whether there's going to be a war together with
- 11:04Speaker 2: the United States against Iran, whether there's going to be
- 11:08Speaker 2: an Israeli presence in Judea and Samaria, whether there's going
- 11:10Speaker 2: to be an Israeli presence in the Gaza Strip. The
- 11:13Speaker 2: stakes are very, very high.
- 11:15Speaker 1: Huge. Last one, about 30 seconds to go. I talked
- 11:18Speaker 1: to you this morning about When you think you'll know something,
- 11:20Speaker 1: you said, well, about 10 p.m. Israeli time, which is
- 11:24Speaker 1: 3 p.m. here in New York City. He said, but
- 11:27Speaker 1: you don't know. It could take up to 48 hours
- 11:29Speaker 1: before you really know. Noam said it could take months
- 11:33Speaker 1: before you really find out who the next prime minister is.
- 11:37Speaker 1: What's the actual answer?
- 11:39Speaker 2: Well, they're all true, and we'll be covering this tonight
- 11:43Speaker 2: on JNS on our website, our YouTube channel. I'll be
- 11:46Speaker 2: anchoring a four-hour live broadcast beginning at 8 p.m. in Israel.
- 11:50Speaker 2: It's only a six-hour difference this week, but I encourage
- 11:53Speaker 2: people to watch to get the scoop on what is
- 11:56Speaker 2: at stake, what the results are. But you get the
- 11:58Speaker 2: first exit polls at 10 p.m. Okay, that's the first
- 12:02Speaker 2: indications of how the voting actually turned out.
- 12:05Speaker 1: Okay, so just to correct myself, because it's a six-hour
- 12:08Speaker 1: difference this week, that's 4 p.m. New York time.
- 12:11Speaker 2: Right, right, right. Yeah, so our broadcast is going to
- 12:15Speaker 2: start at 2 p.m. The results, the exit polls are
- 12:18Speaker 2: going to come out at 4 p.m. Eastern, 10 p.m.
- 12:23Speaker 2: in Israel. But that still comes from the television stations.
- 12:27Speaker 2: That's not an official count. The official counting only begins...
- 12:30Speaker 2: at 10 p.m. They do count as fast as they can,
- 12:34Speaker 2: and I think that by the morning... tomorrow on Wednesday,
- 12:37Speaker 2: will have a pretty good indication of how many seats
- 12:42Speaker 2: each party has. Now, that changes as they continue. It
- 12:45Speaker 2: could take up to 48 hours, really, to count all
- 12:49Speaker 2: the votes. And you have 120 seats divided by 100%
- 12:53Speaker 2: of the vote. So sometimes seats can move, and that
- 12:56Speaker 2: can shift the entire block. The Netanyahu or the anti-Netanyahu
- 13:00Speaker 2: block can be shifted on the basis of some of
- 13:02Speaker 2: these votes. But Once you know the votes, then the president,
- 13:07Speaker 2: President Herzog, has to decide. He meets with the heads
- 13:10Speaker 2: of all the parties. They recommend who they think should
- 13:14Speaker 2: be the prime minister. And then President Herzog decides who
- 13:17Speaker 2: he thinks has the best chance to put together a coalition.
- 13:20Speaker 2: And then he will charge one person, most likely either
- 13:24Speaker 2: Netanyahu or Eisenhower, with the task of negotiating a coalition.
- 13:29Speaker 2: That can take up to 21 days. then there could
- 13:31Speaker 2: be a 14-day extension if it's just a function of negotiations.
- 13:36Speaker 2: If that person fails to form a coalition after an extension,
- 13:40Speaker 2: he can then turn to another candidate and ask them
- 13:44Speaker 2: to form a government. If they fail, then there's another
- 13:48Speaker 2: period where the Knesset members, any member of Knesset can
- 13:51Speaker 2: try to form a coalition and present it to the president.
- 13:54Speaker 2: And if nobody is able to form a coalition or
- 13:58Speaker 2: pass a coalition, By that time, which we're already talking
- 14:01Speaker 2: another month and a half down the line, then you
- 14:05Speaker 2: have an election triggered for 90 days after that.
- 14:08Speaker 1: Yeah, but Bibi's not going to have an issue putting
- 14:10Speaker 1: together a government. He's done it already five times.
- 14:13Speaker 2: It's very, very tricky. Remember that in 2022, Netanyahu had
- 14:19Speaker 2: 30 seats, which is a lot in Israeli politics, and
- 14:23Speaker 2: 13 seats more than the second largest party. It was
- 14:26Speaker 2: a virtual landslide. But the members of the Knesset colluded
- 14:31Speaker 2: to prevent him from forming the government that the voters
- 14:34Speaker 2: voted for. And that's how Naftali Bennett, who only had
- 14:38Speaker 2: six seats out of the 120... became prime minister despite
- 14:42Speaker 2: the fact that 95% of the country did not vote
- 14:44Speaker 2: for him.
- 14:45Speaker 1: Wild.
- 14:45Speaker 2: Because it was a collusion. Wild.
- 14:47Speaker 1: All right, we'll be watching you online tonight, today, jns.org.
- 14:52Speaker 1: Four hours of the coverage from the best in the business.
- 14:55Speaker 1: He really is the best in the business, Alex Trayman.
- 14:57Speaker 1: And we'll keep bringing you back until we find out
- 15:00Speaker 1: whether Bibi stays in power. or somebody else will be
- 15:04Speaker 1: given that very, very important job, which if you love Israel,
- 15:06Speaker 1: you've got to hope to God is not the case.
- 15:09Speaker 1: Alex Treyman, as always, you're beautiful. I love you so much.
- 15:12Speaker 1: Thank you so much.
- 15:13Speaker 2: Love you, too.
- 15:13Speaker 1: Thanks, Sid. That's a great job. Alex Treyman right there,
- 15:16Speaker 1: the CEO of JNS.org, and you're not going to get
- 15:19Speaker 1: a better explanation of what's going on in Israel than
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