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Episode 2. Theseus' Ship & Mr. Clean vs. The Brawny Man · High n' Dry Podcast

• 0:15
  SPEAKER_02: Alright, now uh the non-political podcast.
• 0:17
  SPEAKER_02: Let's get to it.
• 0:20
  SPEAKER_04: Uh hello everybody.
• 0:21
  SPEAKER_04: I'm Ryan Barron North.
• 0:22
  SPEAKER_04: We have with us James.
• 0:23
  SPEAKER_04: What's uh your last name today?
• 0:25
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know, Swift.
• 0:26
  SPEAKER_02: Let's go, let's keep it with Swift for now.
• 0:28
  SPEAKER_02: Keep it with Swift for now.
• 0:29
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we don't have enough of a following to get like a good read on what kind of last name would be good.
• 0:34
  SPEAKER_02: But I just have to make sure I don't use my last name because of all the because I'm married and all these women that are after me can't know they can't know my last name.
• 0:47
  SPEAKER_02: That is true.
• 0:47
  SPEAKER_02: That is true.
• 0:50
  SPEAKER_04: So I understand that you just got over uh corona.
• 0:52
  SPEAKER_02: How did that go?
• 0:52
  SPEAKER_02: Uh went okay.
• 0:54
  SPEAKER_02: I seemed to be, I don't know.
• 0:56
  SPEAKER_02: I think I was mostly asymptomatic.
• 0:58
  SPEAKER_02: Um, I had some heaviness in my chest, uh, but I'm back.
• 1:04
  SPEAKER_04: Uh so we're back with high and dry, filming from an apartment in North Las Vegas where we talk about uh this and that.
• 1:12
  SPEAKER_04: One of us is gonna be drunk and the other one's gonna be really, really high.
• 1:15
  SPEAKER_04: Sadly, this week we are gonna be missing Trey.
• 1:17
  SPEAKER_04: He uh had some uh things come up and you know we hope it goes well for him.
• 1:21
  SPEAKER_04: Um but we'll be back uh next week.
• 1:24
  SPEAKER_04: So uh so first off, let's get started.
• 1:26
  SPEAKER_02: So, James, what will you be smoking this week?
• 1:28
  SPEAKER_02: Uh this week I am going to be smoking Pineapple Express uh from Pure Extracts.
• 1:35
  SPEAKER_02: It was made famous by a 2007 movie starring Seth Rogan and uh James Franco.
• 1:43
  SPEAKER_02: Uh my favorite part in that movie is when is Bill Hader at the beginning, where it's like where it's the 40s.
• 1:57
  SPEAKER_02: Why aren't we in the streets telling everyone about item nine?
• 2:01
  SPEAKER_02: I haven't watched that in forever.
• 2:03
  SPEAKER_02: Uh love that movie.
• 2:04
  SPEAKER_02: One of the best, of course, it's problematic in some parts.
• 2:07
  SPEAKER_02: He dates a high schooler.
• 2:08
  SPEAKER_02: Not great.
• 2:09
  SPEAKER_04: Not great, not great.
• 2:10
  SPEAKER_04: It was a different time.
• 2:12
  SPEAKER_02: It's a different 2006.
• 2:13
  SPEAKER_02: 2007 was a different time.
• 2:15
  SPEAKER_02: It was a very different time.
• 2:16
  SPEAKER_02: But uh but uh the cannabis itself is wonderful.
• 2:23
  SPEAKER_04: Well, I'm uh excited for you.
• 2:25
  SPEAKER_02: What are you drinking?
• 2:27
  SPEAKER_04: So today I will be drinking Captain Morgan black spiced rum.
• 2:31
  SPEAKER_04: Um we actually have a drink recipe on uh our social media going out right now, so those of you who are listening, you can enjoy that with us.
• 2:38
  SPEAKER_02: Is that a special recipe?
• 2:39
  SPEAKER_02: Is it a recipe you came up with?
• 2:41
  SPEAKER_04: Yes, yes.
• 2:41
  SPEAKER_04: So you take um, so you start with a margarita glass, uh, five ounces of Captain Morgan black spice rum, and that's very important.
• 2:48
  SPEAKER_04: Okay, it's gotta be black spiced glass.
• 2:50
  SPEAKER_04: It has to be black spice rum or the flavor is off.
• 2:52
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 2:52
  SPEAKER_04: You pour it into the margarita glass and then enjoy.
• 2:56
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, okay.
• 2:57
  SPEAKER_02: I think I've got it.
• 2:58
  SPEAKER_02: I have to give it a shot.
• 3:00
  SPEAKER_04: Well, I'm gonna I'm gonna be enjoying that right now.
• 3:02
  SPEAKER_04: So uh let's go ahead and get our shots and get junk and high.
• 3:07
  SPEAKER_02: All right, let's do it.
• 3:07
  SPEAKER_01: Cheers, here's one Oh God.
• 3:39
  SPEAKER_02: This is a um I'm not doing my I'm not doing my normal dad this week.
• 3:44
  SPEAKER_02: I'm doing a concentrate pen.
• 3:47
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 3:48
  SPEAKER_02: I just uh I just charged it, so it's really pumping a lot of oil into my body.
• 3:53
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, no, I'm just uh pouring mine into a shot glass and drinking it.
• 3:59
  SPEAKER_01: Why are you pouring it from the margarita glass into a shot glass?
• 4:04
  SPEAKER_01: Why are you doing that?
• 4:08
  SPEAKER_04: This is how you're supposed to enjoy the drink traditionally by the third one, it's smoother.
• 4:21
  SPEAKER_02: By the third massive hit, I'm fine.
• 4:23
  SPEAKER_02: You know what I need a little more to top it up.
• 4:29
  SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah.
• 4:31
  SPEAKER_02: That's good.
• 4:32
  SPEAKER_02: Smooth.
• 4:34
  SPEAKER_02: I'd usually be I'd I'd normally I wouldn't have so much trouble smoking this late in the day because I'd already be high, but for this podcast, the whole premise is I have to come in sober, which is boy, a nightmare.
• 4:50
  SPEAKER_02: To have to get to noon.
• 4:52
  SPEAKER_02: Becoming uncomfortably lucid.
• 4:55
  SPEAKER_02: Woo! Don't worry, things will get better in about three minutes.
• 5:02
  SPEAKER_04: Alright.
• 5:03
  SPEAKER_04: So how are you feeling?
• 5:05
  SPEAKER_02: Uh it's starting to come on.
• 5:08
  SPEAKER_02: Like I said, it'll be it'll be a minute or two until I get the full effects of these three large hits.
• 5:17
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, no, I uh I'm feeling good.
• 5:19
  SPEAKER_04: Feeling good.
• 5:20
  SPEAKER_04: Uh kind of driving a little bit.
• 5:22
  SPEAKER_02: So we're gonna wait an appropriate amount of time.
• 5:26
  SPEAKER_04: Of course.
• 5:27
  SPEAKER_02: Of course.
• 5:28
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, for those of you listening at home, and so now is when you're gonna take your shots andor tabs.
• 5:34
  SPEAKER_04: Depending on the state, local laws.
• 5:36
  SPEAKER_04: And remember never to get behind the wheel or operate every equipment while listening to high and dry.
• 5:42
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, don't break any laws, everybody.
• 5:46
  SPEAKER_02: All laws are good.
• 5:49
  SPEAKER_02: Don't break them.
• 5:50
  SPEAKER_04: Alright, so let's get into it.
• 5:52
  SPEAKER_04: So high and dry.
• 5:53
  SPEAKER_04: Um we're gonna do a weekly podcast here.
• 5:55
  SPEAKER_04: Me, uh, James, Trey, when he gets back to us.
• 6:00
  SPEAKER_04: Um, we're also talking with a uh Reese Married, a comedian we spotted in Chicago, who's gonna be joining us here and there.
• 6:06
  unknown: Oh, really?
• 6:06
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, so it'll be a good time.
• 6:08
  SPEAKER_04: Um, but one of us is really drunk, the other one's really high.
• 6:11
  SPEAKER_04: We're gonna be talking about the things that matter.
• 6:13
  SPEAKER_04: Um this week.
• 6:15
  SPEAKER_04: Let's just jump right into it.
• 6:17
  SPEAKER_04: So this week we're our topic is gonna be the ship of Theseus.
• 6:20
  SPEAKER_04: So for those of you who are not familiar with the ship of Theseus, James, are you familiar?
• 6:25
  SPEAKER_02: Um you know, I wish I was more familiar.
• 6:28
  SPEAKER_02: I uh I don't remember, I know it's a thought experiment.
• 6:31
  SPEAKER_02: I know who Theseus is.
• 6:33
  SPEAKER_02: I took I took many years of classical language, and uh so I know a lot about the myths, but I don't know much about this logic experiment.
• 6:43
  SPEAKER_02: This this logic experiment.
• 6:44
  SPEAKER_04: So the ship of Theseus is a paradox.
• 6:47
  SPEAKER_04: Um discussed ancient philosophers and the the entire concept was that uh the ship of Theseus, it's in it returns to Athens, it's in the ports, um, goes to war, comes back, goes to war, comes back.
• 6:59
  SPEAKER_04: Um over the years, a plank gets bad, they replace the plank.
• 7:04
  SPEAKER_04: Um just over time, eventually every piece of the ship is replaced.
• 7:10
  SPEAKER_04: So the question in the thought experiment is at what point, if ever, is it a new ship sitting in the port?
• 7:18
  SPEAKER_04: Or is it the same ship?
• 7:20
  SPEAKER_04: Um, it's sort of a concept of uh it's a look itself.
• 7:24
  SPEAKER_04: At what point do you become a new person throughout your life?
• 7:26
  SPEAKER_04: Do you become a new person?
• 7:28
  SPEAKER_04: Are you the same person?
• 7:29
  SPEAKER_04: Um, so what constitutes the ship of Theseus becoming a new ship?
• 7:34
  SPEAKER_04: Or does it ever become a new ship?
• 7:35
  SPEAKER_04: Is it the same ship that's sitting in the port?
• 7:39
  SPEAKER_04: Interesting.
• 7:40
  SPEAKER_04: What are your thoughts, James?
• 7:42
  SPEAKER_02: What are my thoughts just right off the bat?
• 7:43
  SPEAKER_02: Right off the bat.
• 7:45
  SPEAKER_02: Uh my thoughts are people in ancient Greece had enough to worry about.
• 7:51
  SPEAKER_01: I don't think anyone was asking whether it was the same ship or not.
• 7:55
  SPEAKER_01: I feel like they had they had they had bigger problems.
• 7:59
  SPEAKER_04: Well, apparently that's not the case.
• 8:01
  SPEAKER_04: Because uh this ship question was proposed and they discussed it.
• 8:07
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, maybe.
• 8:08
  SPEAKER_02: Maybe it was somebody who was like, oh, I'm gonna name my thought experiment after after after something classical.
• 8:15
  SPEAKER_02: Oh well then the basic question of it then.
• 8:19
  SPEAKER_04: So every so we have a ship sitting out there, every piece of it, the the sails, the hull, every little bit about it has been replaced.
• 8:28
  SPEAKER_04: Is it the same ship?
• 8:32
  SPEAKER_02: Is it the same ship?
• 8:39
  SPEAKER_02: So so you just want my gut reaction?
• 8:41
  SPEAKER_02: Gut reaction.
• 8:42
  SPEAKER_02: I don't care.
• 8:46
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, uh as if you're still using it as a ship, it's like who cares what its name is?
• 8:53
  SPEAKER_01: I don't care, I need a ship.
• 8:56
  SPEAKER_01: Well, the question itself isn't about the ship.
• 9:01
  SPEAKER_01: I think you're I think someone's priorities aren't straight, and they're asking the wrong questions.
• 9:06
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, so let's see.
• 9:08
  SPEAKER_02: Is it the same ship?
• 9:11
  SPEAKER_02: Um yeah.
• 9:17
  SPEAKER_02: So I think I think I think the big distinction is what we consider the ship.
• 9:28
  SPEAKER_02: So there are two things that are the ship.
• 9:31
  SPEAKER_02: There is the physical ship, like its actual building blocks, yes, and then there is the concept of the ship.
• 9:39
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 9:40
  SPEAKER_02: So the idea, it's like the idea of a person versus the physical nature of a person.
• 9:46
  SPEAKER_04: Well, with the idea of the person.
• 9:48
  SPEAKER_04: So it's a very popular thing.
• 9:50
  SPEAKER_04: I'm sure you've seen it on social media and your late night hours toiling away and looking at message boards and what have you.
• 9:56
  SPEAKER_04: Um it's a uh it's a common um sort of sorry, the booze is getting to me.
• 10:03
  SPEAKER_04: I have to collect my thoughts, but it's an inspirational little quote that you post on Facebook or Instagram.
• 10:09
  SPEAKER_04: Live, laugh, love.
• 10:11
  SPEAKER_04: Not that one, no.
• 10:13
  SPEAKER_04: Inspired.
• 10:14
  SPEAKER_04: It's so inspired.
• 10:15
  SPEAKER_04: Um, but no, the whole the the statement basically says after seven years, every cell in the human body is replaced.
• 10:23
  SPEAKER_04: And isn't it a beautiful thought that after seven years I'll have a body that you've never touched?
• 10:28
  SPEAKER_04: And everyone, I guess, who's broken up has posted at one point.
• 10:33
  SPEAKER_04: I know I've seen it about every month.
• 10:35
  SPEAKER_04: I see someone has posted it.
• 10:36
  SPEAKER_04: Um, so it well all they're doing right there is asking the question of Theseus.
• 10:41
  SPEAKER_04: So in terms of that, then if we want to move away from uh the nautical and let's talk about people, do you think that's the case?
• 10:49
  SPEAKER_04: Do you think uh after those seven years you have a new person?
• 10:54
  SPEAKER_02: Um so like you you could say that yes, physically they are a different person because that they have a different body.
• 11:06
  SPEAKER_02: But the cons the con there's a I don't know how to say this.
• 11:11
  SPEAKER_02: I I don't know enough about philosophy, uh, but there is this idea we have called a person that encompasses more than their physical form.
• 11:23
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 11:24
  SPEAKER_02: And I think that that's the distinction, that's where I'm landing on the question, is because we have this concept that is larger than the physical object, that the ability to transfer that idea as like an evolution of the thing rather than a replacement of the thing over time, it holds on to the concept.
• 11:51
  SPEAKER_02: And that's what we're really talking about.
• 11:52
  SPEAKER_04: No, without without a doubt.
• 11:54
  SPEAKER_04: Well, so in drunken terms, and people at home, this is this is at the point where you yourselves would take another shot.
• 12:00
  SPEAKER_02: Um sorry, everybody.
• 12:04
  SPEAKER_04: Um we had a drinking game coming to you guys by episode four.
• 12:08
  SPEAKER_04: Um so I mean, do you feel that every person you ever fucked before seven years ago, uh you no longer fuck them?
• 12:15
  SPEAKER_02: No, because they because the idea of them exists outside their physical body.
• 12:25
  SPEAKER_02: I didn't just fuck their body, I fucked their concept as well.
• 12:30
  SPEAKER_02: And that sticks with you.
• 12:32
  SPEAKER_04: Well, so it it's I think it's a comforting thought.
• 12:35
  SPEAKER_04: I think it's a comforting thought.
• 12:36
  SPEAKER_04: You know, it allows you to get rid of some you know baggage you're carrying around.
• 12:40
  SPEAKER_04: But you know, I I I myself, so I think that you still have the same ship out there.
• 12:46
  SPEAKER_04: Um, because it the concept of the ship is still there, existing, doing its thing.
• 12:51
  SPEAKER_04: It's changed, it's grown, it's developed.
• 12:54
  SPEAKER_04: But we landed in the same space.
• 12:57
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 12:57
  SPEAKER_02: Look at that.
• 12:57
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, it's it's still the same ship out there.
• 13:00
  SPEAKER_02: Um see, you had some time to think about this, and I'm glad we came to the same conclusion because I could have been like, no, it's a new fucking ship.
• 13:07
  SPEAKER_01: What's wrong with you?
• 13:09
  SPEAKER_02: You could have done it.
• 13:09
  SPEAKER_01: No, that's that's totally fine.
• 13:12
  SPEAKER_04: That's totally fine.
• 13:13
  SPEAKER_04: Um yeah, no, I uh but as far as that statement goes, and I was also looking into that as well.
• 13:20
  SPEAKER_04: Um, just uh seven years as a hard rule for being a new person.
• 13:24
  SPEAKER_04: As comforting as it is, even scientifically, it's not correct with you know certain skin cells having a 14-day lifespan to your bones having 15 years, parts of your brain will last the entirety of your existence.
• 13:39
  SPEAKER_02: Not for some of us, right?
• 13:41
  SPEAKER_01: Woo, take another shot.
• 13:43
  SPEAKER_02: Go ahead and take another shot.
• 13:45
  SPEAKER_02: That's another one.
• 13:47
  SPEAKER_02: We're gonna make sure we're a new person in seven years, damn it.
• 13:51
  SPEAKER_01: New liver.
• 13:53
  SPEAKER_04: So yeah, if you're not willing to do the hard work of self-correction and you know, introspection, feel free to take some shots.
• 14:02
  SPEAKER_04: Knock it out yourself.
• 14:03
  SPEAKER_04: You can get there on your own.
• 14:07
  SPEAKER_02: Well, so um you don't need our help.
• 14:09
  SPEAKER_02: You don't need our help.
• 14:11
  SPEAKER_02: In weekdays at work, just kill those brain cells early in the morning before the kids get up.
• 14:21
  SPEAKER_02: Anytime.
• 14:21
  SPEAKER_02: You don't have to wait for us.
• 14:23
  SPEAKER_04: So I another one of these I've heard.
• 14:26
  SPEAKER_04: Um it's the same concept.
• 14:29
  SPEAKER_04: I'm just curious at if your position changes on it, if you make the object simpler.
• 14:34
  SPEAKER_04: The grandfather's ax.
• 14:36
  SPEAKER_04: Um if any if you've did you ever read um John Dies at the end?
• 14:43
  SPEAKER_02: Uh no, I didn't watch it.
• 14:44
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, I didn't read it, but I did see the movie, and I've heard they're not super similar.
• 14:49
  SPEAKER_04: No, not at all.
• 14:50
  SPEAKER_04: Um, but the the grandfather's axe, the ship of theses.
• 14:54
  SPEAKER_04: Yes, yes.
• 14:55
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I I really enjoyed his writing on cracked.
• 14:58
  SPEAKER_02: This is a big plug for cracked 10 years ago.
• 15:01
  SPEAKER_02: So if you want to go on the way back machine and look through cracked in uh in 2010, boy, was it a great time.
• 15:08
  SPEAKER_02: It's a good time.
• 15:09
  SPEAKER_02: You guys will really enjoy it.
• 15:11
  SPEAKER_02: There's still hope.
• 15:12
  SPEAKER_02: There was hope.
• 15:13
  SPEAKER_04: But anyway, um, so the grandfather's axe, similar concept.
• 15:17
  SPEAKER_04: So you're running around, you have an axe, you're using it to chop wood, you ding the blade of the axe, you get a new blade, put it on the top of the axe.
• 15:26
  SPEAKER_04: Chopping wood again, you break your handle, get a new handle, snap it onto the new blade.
• 15:32
  SPEAKER_04: Is it the same axe?
• 15:34
  SPEAKER_02: So so that's interesting because I think in this one, it actually I think it's clear that the hold on just a second.
• 15:49
  SPEAKER_02: I think it's clear that uh the concept is associated directly with the physical nature of the axe.
• 15:58
  SPEAKER_02: Unlike Theseus' ship, like as the ship kept changing um pieces, uh Theseus was still using it.
• 16:07
  SPEAKER_02: It was still his ship.
• 16:08
  SPEAKER_02: It was he was like actively doing it.
• 16:11
  SPEAKER_02: But your grandfather stopped using that axe at one point, and you've replaced all pieces that your grandfather had ever owned.
• 16:22
  SPEAKER_02: Oh well, I guess they could have done Theseus' ship after hit after Theseus' death as well.
• 16:27
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, yeah.
• 16:29
  SPEAKER_02: So so I think it depends on when and where we're asking this question.
• 16:35
  SPEAKER_02: I think that's important.
• 16:37
  SPEAKER_02: Well, so there's been and who's asking it.
• 16:40
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 16:40
  SPEAKER_04: Well, well, there's been a lot of there's proposed resolutions.
• 16:44
  SPEAKER_02: Um most people can eat shit.
• 16:46
  SPEAKER_01: I don't want to hear I don't want to hear what they think.
• 16:50
  SPEAKER_04: Um well, so you have that there's no identity over time, it's a thing.
• 16:56
  SPEAKER_04: Um, there's four-dimensionalism, where you consider the object to extend across time as four-dimensional.
• 17:03
  SPEAKER_04: Um that's interest.
• 17:05
  SPEAKER_02: That's the concept.
• 17:06
  SPEAKER_02: That so the fourth dimension is time and the concept.
• 17:10
  SPEAKER_02: The concept is able to travel over that space that the physical object was unable to.
• 17:16
  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
• 17:17
  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
• 17:18
  SPEAKER_02: That's interesting.
• 17:18
  SPEAKER_02: But I also like the idea that there's no such thing as an identity over time.
• 17:23
  SPEAKER_02: I I also agree with that.
• 17:25
  SPEAKER_02: I also agree that identity is almost kind of silly at some point.
• 17:31
  SPEAKER_04: Do you think that's the same for the individual?
• 17:34
  SPEAKER_04: So if we take the thesia ship and make it a person again who's posting on Facebook after a tragic breakup, yeah.
• 17:40
  SPEAKER_04: You think that just identity is irrelevant?
• 17:43
  SPEAKER_02: Oh my god.
• 17:44
  SPEAKER_02: So like it's not irrelevant because people care about it.
• 17:47
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 17:48
  SPEAKER_02: But I but I do sure think that people have a toxic relationship with the concept of identity.
• 17:56
  SPEAKER_04: I agree.
• 17:59
  SPEAKER_04: I agree entirely.
• 18:01
  SPEAKER_04: Um and and especially in the age of social media.
• 18:06
  SPEAKER_04: Especially in the age of social media.
• 18:07
  SPEAKER_02: Well, social media encourages um an unhealthy relationship with your identity.
• 18:13
  SPEAKER_02: Because you you you had people didn't used to track their identity in this way.
• 18:18
  SPEAKER_02: It's social currency.
• 18:19
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 18:20
  SPEAKER_02: We we've it is kind of commodified.
• 18:23
  SPEAKER_02: We we've done what we do with all things, humans.
• 18:26
  SPEAKER_02: We break them into smaller boxes, like identifying and defining more portions, and then we utilize those portions.
• 18:35
  SPEAKER_02: And the problem is people were like, oh, photographs are cool.
• 18:39
  SPEAKER_02: Have you noticed how we record our lives?
• 18:41
  SPEAKER_02: And then and then, like, as soon as we could make it, you know, make that serotonin boost and that tracking and that compartmentalizing easier, we ran with it.
• 18:51
  SPEAKER_02: Humans sure were like, let's fucking do it, and and it's not healthy.
• 18:55
  SPEAKER_04: No, no, it's not.
• 18:57
  SPEAKER_04: Um, I mean, uh, I I think everyone can relate to just Facebook addiction.
• 19:03
  SPEAKER_04: Um, I know years ago I got off of it, and without a doubt, for the first month, I would go onto my phone and just instinctively start pushing that little button where it was on my home screen, and it wasn't there.
• 19:16
  SPEAKER_04: And so that doesn't happen when it wasn't some sort of habit.
• 19:21
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 19:22
  SPEAKER_04: And and the way we we just commodify each other and commodify our identities, it it's not it's not a healthy.
• 19:30
  SPEAKER_02: You know what?
• 19:31
  SPEAKER_02: I think someone is trying to commodify Theseus's ship in that case.
• 19:36
  SPEAKER_02: Why would anyone ask that fucking question anyway?
• 19:38
  SPEAKER_02: If they're trying to assign it some value, like, oh, Theseus used this ship.
• 19:42
  SPEAKER_02: Well, that's not true.
• 19:43
  SPEAKER_02: You can't charge that much.
• 19:45
  SPEAKER_02: And it's like, and the same with the grandfather's ad.
• 19:48
  SPEAKER_02: People, someone's trying to commodify some shit.
• 19:50
  SPEAKER_02: I'll like it.
• 19:52
  SPEAKER_04: Well, then, well, the one of the final ones that we'll do then um is the gradual loss of identity.
• 19:58
  SPEAKER_04: Um, individual states that you got the captain's bed, Theseus slept here.
• 20:04
  SPEAKER_04: The beds are placed.
• 20:05
  SPEAKER_04: That's no longer true.
• 20:07
  SPEAKER_04: And you have that gradual loss of identity.
• 20:10
  SPEAKER_04: You then move that to um an individual.
• 20:15
  SPEAKER_04: Person was once married, it's no longer true.
• 20:17
  SPEAKER_04: There was a divorce, a person, you know, something things happen throughout their lives.
• 20:22
  SPEAKER_04: Does that equate to a loss of identity?
• 20:25
  SPEAKER_02: I'm wondering why they're asking in the first place.
• 20:31
  SPEAKER_02: What are they attempting to discover about identity?
• 20:35
  SPEAKER_02: And is it a healthy reason that they're looking into this?
• 20:40
  SPEAKER_02: Because why do why do you need to know if you're if if you've lost your identity over time?
• 20:46
  SPEAKER_02: What exactly are you trying to measure and why?
• 20:50
  SPEAKER_04: No, that's a uh that's a good idea.
• 20:52
  SPEAKER_04: And people at home go ahead and have a shot with that while we while we mull that over.
• 20:58
  SPEAKER_04: Um does it matter?
• 21:01
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 21:02
  SPEAKER_04: So we're in this um this sort of, I guess, era where we're struggling to find self-identity and you know, social commodity and all that sort of thing.
• 21:13
  SPEAKER_04: Is asking or looking into it the healthy way to go?
• 21:19
  SPEAKER_02: Should we be so eager to cement ourselves in some like cement a concept?
• 21:30
  SPEAKER_02: There was um there was a quote I I heard recently that I thought was that I'd never heard this quote.
• 21:38
  SPEAKER_02: I can't remember who it was from.
• 21:39
  SPEAKER_02: It's a really famous quote, but um, but someone said, history has ended.
• 21:47
  SPEAKER_02: And I feel that's reflective of this idea that we need we desire a static state for everything.
• 21:58
  SPEAKER_02: We do not like when things change, even if it's growth.
• 22:02
  SPEAKER_04: But then at the same time, we have to we have to quantify, we have to put everything into a you know, but it's like sexuality, gender.
• 22:10
  SPEAKER_04: Um, every everything is there's no we we aren't comfortable with.
• 22:15
  SPEAKER_04: Spectrum.
• 22:16
  SPEAKER_02: No.
• 22:17
  SPEAKER_04: We it has to have a name and a definition.
• 22:20
  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
• 22:21
  SPEAKER_02: And I believe that's what's happening with these questions.
• 22:26
  SPEAKER_02: It's not a good habit that we do these that we ask this question.
• 22:31
  SPEAKER_02: Sure, it's a question, but you could waste time on a bad question.
• 22:36
  SPEAKER_02: True.
• 22:37
  SPEAKER_02: You can absolutely waste time on a bad question.
• 22:40
  SPEAKER_04: Then on that note, it's time we move into the next portion of high and dry.
• 22:44
  SPEAKER_04: So in order to get there, however, it's time that uh we here take another shot.
• 22:48
  SPEAKER_04: You folks at home, go ahead and take your next shot.
• 22:51
  SPEAKER_04: Um, James, if you want to go ahead and hit that one more time.
• 22:54
  SPEAKER_02: No, please.
• 22:56
  SPEAKER_02: I uh doing it.
• 22:59
  unknown: Yeah, that's good.
• 23:01
  SPEAKER_02: Oh man, it was building up and then it popped.
• 23:05
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I accidentally I was a little heavy-handed on that last pour.
• 23:11
  SPEAKER_02: You guys know how you guys know how when you use your pen and the oil like clogs up the intake and you don't realize, and and all that oil builds up, and then you get this huge hit.
• 23:25
  SPEAKER_02: That happened to me.
• 23:28
  SPEAKER_04: So everyone at home, let's let's have another shot just just for James right there.
• 23:34
  SPEAKER_04: You guys are gonna die.
• 23:35
  SPEAKER_04: I'm sorry.
• 23:37
  SPEAKER_04: Alright, so next down the docket.
• 23:40
  SPEAKER_04: Looking at uh in our second portion of the show, we have our versus match, where we put to bed arguments of fictional characters in a versus match getting inside the ring that have plagued us for years and years and years.
• 23:57
  SPEAKER_04: And here on High and Dry, we are the final destination for you to determine who would win.
• 24:03
  SPEAKER_04: Last week uh we did, I don't even remember, I've been drinking.
• 24:07
  SPEAKER_04: Who did we do?
• 24:08
  SPEAKER_02: We did Hannibal versus Dexter.
• 24:10
  SPEAKER_04: Hannibal versus Dexter.
• 24:12
  SPEAKER_04: We figured out who would win between Hannibal, Hannibal and Dexter.
• 24:15
  SPEAKER_04: And if you want to find it out, go ahead and listen to our last episode.
• 24:17
  SPEAKER_02: Not gonna lie, that was a long time ago.
• 24:19
  SPEAKER_04: Sometimes we've had, you know, there's been a lot going on.
• 24:22
  SPEAKER_04: There's a plague out there.
• 24:24
  SPEAKER_04: Um, but uh other fights, you know, Batman versus Superman, I'm sure we'll get there.
• 24:29
  SPEAKER_04: Um we'll uh god damn it.
• 24:35
  SPEAKER_04: That uh that last shot really just uh just finally hit bottom right there.
• 24:41
  SPEAKER_04: I felt that.
• 24:42
  SPEAKER_02: But anyway.
• 24:43
  SPEAKER_02: We'll do other ones.
• 24:44
  SPEAKER_02: We'll do like um Franklin D.
• 24:47
  SPEAKER_02: Roosevelt versus The Predator.
• 24:53
  SPEAKER_02: Uh yeah, uh someone will have to take FDR's side.
• 24:57
  SPEAKER_04: We're uh Roseanne Barr versus the uh stay puffed marshmallow man.
• 25:06
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
• 25:07
  SPEAKER_02: These ones don't sound feasible.
• 25:09
  SPEAKER_02: I don't think anyone's gonna tune in.
• 25:12
  SPEAKER_02: For FDR versus the Predator?
• 25:14
  SPEAKER_04: Who is it against the predator?
• 25:16
  SPEAKER_01: It was FDR.
• 25:17
  SPEAKER_01: The man in a wheelchair.
• 25:19
  SPEAKER_01: Or can we take him at his best?
• 25:21
  SPEAKER_02: Well, we know the ones, we can use him at his best.
• 25:22
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we're gonna use him at his best.
• 25:24
  SPEAKER_02: He'll talk the predator down.
• 25:25
  SPEAKER_02: Fireside chat.
• 25:26
  SPEAKER_04: Danny Glover.
• 25:27
  SPEAKER_04: Danny Glover pulled it off.
• 25:29
  SPEAKER_04: He did.
• 25:29
  SPEAKER_04: Predator too.
• 25:30
  SPEAKER_02: And I do think FDR could kill Danny.
• 25:32
  SPEAKER_02: Well, maybe not in their prime.
• 25:34
  unknown: Yeah.
• 25:35
  SPEAKER_02: Anyway, let's get to let's get to the thing we're doing.
• 25:37
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, uh, Danny Glover, if you're listening and you want to set the record straight, you against a FDR out of his wheelchair.
• 25:44
  SPEAKER_01: We'll we'll dig up his corpse and you guys can fight.
• 25:49
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, that's not legal.
• 25:51
  SPEAKER_02: I wouldn't do that.
• 25:53
  SPEAKER_04: So, as our versus matches goes, uh, we have a set of rules to make sure that we come to the most reasonable and definitive conclusion.
• 26:02
  SPEAKER_04: It's a three-round setup.
• 26:04
  SPEAKER_04: Round one is the fist fight.
• 26:05
  SPEAKER_04: We're both of our combatants, you know, no shirt, no shoes, no belt.
• 26:09
  SPEAKER_04: Jump into the ring and punch it out.
• 26:12
  SPEAKER_04: Blow for blow, we see who wins.
• 26:14
  SPEAKER_04: Round two, we have the manhunt, in which these individuals at their prime are given a vast city locale in which they could use their cunning, guile, physical prowess, everything like that, anything that they have, you know, at their disposal to get the job done, and we discuss who would win in that one.
• 26:32
  SPEAKER_04: And then finally, round three, same thing, but they get to bring a friend.
• 26:36
  SPEAKER_04: And that's where we uh figure out who's really gonna take it.
• 26:40
  SPEAKER_04: So in this week, our fight in high and dry podcast is Mr.
• 26:46
  SPEAKER_04: Clean versus the Brownie Brownie.
• 26:49
  SPEAKER_04: Am I saying that right?
• 26:51
  SPEAKER_04: Brawny.
• 26:52
  SPEAKER_02: Brawny.
• 26:55
  SPEAKER_04: It's Mr.
• 26:56
  SPEAKER_04: Clean versus the brawny paper towel, man.
• 27:00
  SPEAKER_02: I always uh I always liked uh the concept of strength that's been associated with paper towels.
• 27:07
  SPEAKER_04: It's sure I'm saying it's a masculine product, really.
• 27:12
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I mean, you know it's you know how tough paper towels are.
• 27:19
  SPEAKER_04: Well, Mr.
• 27:19
  SPEAKER_04: Clean offers a variety of products that go well beyond the paper towel.
• 27:23
  SPEAKER_04: He does, his strength extends.
• 27:25
  SPEAKER_04: And we'll bring that up right now on round one.
• 27:27
  SPEAKER_04: So round one, the fist fight, uh, Mr.
• 27:30
  SPEAKER_04: Clean and the Brawny Man hop into the ring um and start punching it out.
• 27:37
  SPEAKER_04: Now, so you have the brawny man.
• 27:41
  SPEAKER_04: He's clearly some sort of lumberjack, wears a lot of flannel.
• 27:44
  SPEAKER_04: He does, he wears flannel.
• 27:45
  SPEAKER_04: Now, so here, now I wasn't gonna go this way originally.
• 27:49
  SPEAKER_04: I I will state right off the bat, Mr.
• 27:51
  SPEAKER_04: Clean is my preferred.
• 27:53
  SPEAKER_04: However, the man's got piercings.
• 27:56
  SPEAKER_02: Uh that's okay.
• 27:58
  SPEAKER_04: I have never seen a man with piercings win a fight because all you gotta do is grab onto his face and you pull back with a handful of hardware.
• 28:06
  SPEAKER_02: Well, so he can he can so listen, it's very customary in an honorable fight.
• 28:12
  SPEAKER_02: Is this an honorable fight?
• 28:13
  SPEAKER_04: This is, yeah, they get into the ring.
• 28:14
  SPEAKER_04: So this is an honorable fight.
• 28:15
  SPEAKER_04: So he takes his piercings out.
• 28:16
  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
• 28:17
  SPEAKER_02: Who do you what professional fighter?
• 28:19
  SPEAKER_02: Because there's plenty of professional fighters who have piercings, they just don't wear them in the ring because that's probably illegal for the rules of the fight.
• 28:25
  SPEAKER_04: Alright, so we're assuming that in round one, and we'll mark this down for future uh versus matches.
• 28:33
  SPEAKER_04: Combatants, not only are they fighting in their prime, they have removed body piercings.
• 28:40
  SPEAKER_02: There's rules to the fight in the first fight.
• 28:43
  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
• 28:43
  SPEAKER_02: So in the first fight, they're just duking it out.
• 28:46
  SPEAKER_02: Like they're just using what they what everyone knows they have available.
• 28:49
  unknown: Yes.
• 28:50
  SPEAKER_04: So so Mr.
• 28:51
  SPEAKER_04: Clan is taking out his earring, Brawny Man is taking out his penis barbell.
• 28:57
  SPEAKER_04: And that that's a little known, little known factoid about the brawny man.
• 29:05
  SPEAKER_04: It didn't come up much in the canon.
• 29:08
  SPEAKER_02: Every once in a while you're like, oh yeah, he does have that penis barbell.
• 29:12
  SPEAKER_02: I remember now.
• 29:13
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 29:14
  SPEAKER_02: It was in that one commercial.
• 29:16
  SPEAKER_02: You remember that one time?
• 29:17
  SPEAKER_02: It's a good callback for the Yeah.
• 29:20
  SPEAKER_04: No, he's just cleaning that kitchen counter with his pants off.
• 29:25
  SPEAKER_02: It was just he you just heard a tink.
• 29:28
  SPEAKER_01: It just hit something.
• 29:31
  SPEAKER_01: That's how you knew you were supposed to infer.
• 29:33
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, they're like, oh, whoa.
• 29:35
  SPEAKER_03: And then the folks at home are like, oh yeah, the penis barbed.
• 29:40
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I remember now.
• 29:42
  SPEAKER_04: Alright, well, so these two men, these two bims of uh cleaning material are duking it out, punch for punch.
• 29:50
  SPEAKER_02: So from what I've seen, from what I remember, from what my mind has created about Mr.
• 29:58
  SPEAKER_02: Clean and the Brawny Man, is that Mr.
• 30:01
  SPEAKER_02: Clean has more, he seems bulkier.
• 30:04
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, but stockier.
• 30:07
  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
• 30:07
  SPEAKER_02: I think I think the Bronny, I think Brawny Man's taller.
• 30:11
  SPEAKER_02: Bronny Man's definitely taller, but I honestly I would even say that he has broader shoulders, even.
• 30:15
  SPEAKER_04: You think so?
• 30:17
  SPEAKER_04: But I because I could tell you this.
• 30:18
  SPEAKER_04: So in the in the in the most recent, I don't know if this is the most recent, I don't have cable, and I don't think anybody does.
• 30:24
  SPEAKER_02: If you have cable, what are you doing?
• 30:26
  SPEAKER_02: You're like 60 years old, don't listen to this podcast.
• 30:29
  SPEAKER_04: The last time I saw Mr.
• 30:31
  SPEAKER_04: Clinton, he was sacheting his hips with a new Swiffer style mop along a hardwood floor.
• 30:39
  SPEAKER_04: No, no, no, Mr.
• 30:40
  SPEAKER_04: Clean.
• 30:40
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, Mr.
• 30:41
  SPEAKER_04: Clinton.
• 30:41
  SPEAKER_02: Well, he's limber.
• 30:42
  SPEAKER_02: He's very limber.
• 30:43
  SPEAKER_02: That's important.
• 30:44
  SPEAKER_02: That's very important.
• 30:45
  SPEAKER_02: Let's not fit, let's not, let's not associate traits with femininity.
• 30:49
  SPEAKER_02: I I Swiffer the floor.
• 30:50
  SPEAKER_02: I love Swiffering the floor.
• 30:52
  SPEAKER_02: And I and I shake it out as I do it because you gotta stretch.
• 30:55
  SPEAKER_02: You gotta keep your hips.
• 30:57
  SPEAKER_02: You gotta keep your hips.
• 30:57
  SPEAKER_02: It's a pandemic, we're not moving around as much.
• 31:00
  SPEAKER_02: Stretch it out.
• 31:01
  SPEAKER_04: Stretch it out.
• 31:01
  SPEAKER_02: Sachet while you swim.
• 31:03
  SPEAKER_04: And Mr.
• 31:03
  SPEAKER_04: Clean is no stranger to the sachet.
• 31:06
  SPEAKER_02: That's true.
• 31:07
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know if I've ever seen the Brawny.
• 31:09
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
• 31:10
  SPEAKER_02: I haven't watched TV.
• 31:11
  SPEAKER_02: I have no idea.
• 31:13
  SPEAKER_04: Well, here's the thing with Brawny Man.
• 31:14
  SPEAKER_04: Little known fact.
• 31:17
  SPEAKER_02: Brawny Man was replaced.
• 31:19
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, is he the same?
• 31:20
  SPEAKER_02: Is is he does Brawny Man still exist?
• 31:24
  SPEAKER_01: He's been entirely replaced.
• 31:27
  SPEAKER_04: He's been replaced by a female brawny ma'am, who uh because clean and toughness has no gender.
• 31:36
  SPEAKER_04: Well, that's true.
• 31:37
  SPEAKER_04: That is true.
• 31:38
  SPEAKER_02: But we're talking about But also you shouldn't be caring about it anyway.
• 31:40
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 31:42
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 31:43
  SPEAKER_04: Um but we are talking about original.
• 31:45
  SPEAKER_04: So it's basically very fit cleaning man versus a lumberjack.
• 31:54
  SPEAKER_02: But you said, wait, hold on.
• 31:56
  SPEAKER_02: Mr.
• 31:57
  SPEAKER_02: Clean or Bronny Man had the f had the woman replacement?
• 32:00
  SPEAKER_04: Bronny Man.
• 32:01
  SPEAKER_04: Bronny Man is now Bronny Man.
• 32:03
  SPEAKER_02: Is she still super broad-shouldered and strong?
• 32:07
  SPEAKER_02: Like, does she still have a height advantage on Mr.
• 32:10
  SPEAKER_02: No, no, no, no.
• 32:11
  SPEAKER_02: She doesn't have a hideous advantage.
• 32:12
  SPEAKER_02: They made her very feminine.
• 32:14
  SPEAKER_02: So they had to, yeah, they had to make her super feminine.
• 32:16
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, just for you know American audiences comfortable.
• 32:19
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 32:20
  SPEAKER_04: So, you know, it was a statement that meant nothing.
• 32:22
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 32:22
  SPEAKER_04: Well, well, we shouldn't be headed that way.
• 32:24
  SPEAKER_04: That's not what we're here to talk about.
• 32:26
  SPEAKER_04: So back to the ring.
• 32:27
  SPEAKER_04: We're a ringside again.
• 32:29
  SPEAKER_04: These two guys are punking each other out.
• 32:31
  SPEAKER_04: I think that Mr.
• 32:32
  SPEAKER_04: Clean would be dancing his way around Bronny.
• 32:36
  SPEAKER_04: Until Bronny tires himself out.
• 32:37
  SPEAKER_02: I think Bronny has a reach advantage, and I think that I think that Bronny Man as someone so so Mr.
• 32:44
  SPEAKER_02: Clean for a living hawks cleaning products.
• 32:48
  SPEAKER_02: Like he's like a cleaning product salesman who goes around the houses.
• 32:52
  SPEAKER_02: But we know that Bronny Man is a lumberjack.
• 32:56
  SPEAKER_02: He spends like all day swinging his arms.
• 33:01
  SPEAKER_02: And Mr.
• 33:02
  SPEAKER_02: Clean, that's probably vanity muscles.
• 33:04
  SPEAKER_02: What exactly how is Mr.
• 33:06
  SPEAKER_02: Clean earning the muscle?
• 33:07
  SPEAKER_04: You think that his are um completely just for show that he hits the gym?
• 33:13
  SPEAKER_02: I don't I don't even know if he hits the gym.
• 33:16
  SPEAKER_02: I think maybe those are his cleaning muscles.
• 33:20
  SPEAKER_02: That's just for him using the magic eraser.
• 33:25
  SPEAKER_02: Shit.
• 33:26
  SPEAKER_02: But I think I think Brawny Man being someone who has to go into the wild, and we know he doesn't use a chainsaw.
• 33:34
  SPEAKER_02: Like we he actually has to use a fucking axe.
• 33:37
  SPEAKER_01: So he's like chopping down trees the old-fashioned way.
• 33:40
  SPEAKER_01: Dude's hard as nails.
• 33:42
  SPEAKER_01: And the and the lady too.
• 33:43
  SPEAKER_01: She's a lumberjack, she's fucking hard as nails.
• 33:46
  SPEAKER_01: I say they're gonna beat, I think they're gonna wipe the floor with Mr.
• 33:49
  SPEAKER_01: Clean, and it's gonna look fantastic.
• 33:53
  SPEAKER_01: Smell great too.
• 33:54
  SPEAKER_04: Mr.
• 33:54
  SPEAKER_04: Clean does have the muscle to knock out dirt, grease, and grime wherever he's high.
• 33:59
  SPEAKER_04: But very limited on his ability to lumber.
• 34:05
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 34:06
  SPEAKER_02: Mr.
• 34:06
  SPEAKER_01: Clean's not getting rid of not getting rid of a living tree.
• 34:11
  SPEAKER_04: Well then I think we have it.
• 34:12
  SPEAKER_04: Round one is going to the brawny man.
• 34:17
  SPEAKER_04: And woman.
• 34:18
  SPEAKER_02: The brawny person.
• 34:19
  SPEAKER_02: The brawny person.
• 34:21
  SPEAKER_04: Round one goes to brownie person.
• 34:24
  SPEAKER_04: I didn't admit it's a lie.
• 34:25
  SPEAKER_04: So that brings us to round two.
• 34:27
  SPEAKER_04: So round two is the man hunt.
• 34:29
  SPEAKER_04: So these people are released into the wild with they they wake up that morning, brownie man and brownie ma'am in there.
• 34:37
  SPEAKER_04: I I don't think they're a couple.
• 34:39
  SPEAKER_04: But they wake up, they awake and they find a manila envelope slid under the door.
• 34:46
  SPEAKER_04: In 24 hours, we're going to activate a bomb in your neck unless you kill Mr.
• 34:51
  SPEAKER_04: Clean.
• 34:52
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 34:53
  SPEAKER_04: And Mr.
• 34:53
  SPEAKER_04: Clean has received the same envelope, but he's been tasked with killing Brawny.
• 34:58
  SPEAKER_04: Oh boy.
• 35:00
  SPEAKER_04: Who's gonna win?
• 35:01
  SPEAKER_01: Well, so once again, I think that now that now that it's not just them duking it out, um I still think Bronny Man get has has he could like he professionally uses a blade to knock living things to death.
• 35:23
  SPEAKER_01: But those things are standing still.
• 35:25
  SPEAKER_04: But at the same time, I feel that Mr.
• 35:27
  SPEAKER_04: Clean is more inventive because he also has the magic eraser.
• 35:31
  SPEAKER_04: Now, canon-wise, I I don't know what the magic eraser is capable of.
• 35:36
  SPEAKER_04: Canon-wise?
• 35:37
  SPEAKER_04: In inside of his uh inside of Mr.
• 35:39
  SPEAKER_04: Clean's storyline, like can he erase Brawny?
• 35:42
  SPEAKER_04: I don't know.
• 35:43
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, does he not use the same magic eraser I've used?
• 35:46
  SPEAKER_02: Because it takes it takes the paint off of things, and I've heard that the hard way.
• 35:50
  SPEAKER_02: You don't use it on painted things.
• 35:52
  SPEAKER_02: Hey everybody, don't use a magic eraser unless you really want to sand the shit out of it.
• 35:57
  SPEAKER_02: It's basically a piece of sandpaper.
• 35:59
  SPEAKER_04: So, I mean, imagine if Mr.
• 36:00
  SPEAKER_04: Klean got up in uh Bronny's eyes with a magic eraser.
• 36:04
  SPEAKER_01: I mean I mean, yeah, but also what if what if Bronny Man's axe got up in Mr.
• 36:10
  SPEAKER_04: Clean's face, yeah.
• 36:13
  SPEAKER_01: Anywhere.
• 36:14
  SPEAKER_01: It's an axe.
• 36:18
  SPEAKER_01: Anywhere, it's not a great thing.
• 36:21
  SPEAKER_04: That is true.
• 36:22
  SPEAKER_04: But now, so well, so however, at this point we've established within Bronny's canon.
• 36:28
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 36:28
  SPEAKER_04: Bronny will have his penis bar belt in right now.
• 36:32
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, oh, yeah.
• 36:35
  SPEAKER_02: The old dick twist.
• 36:37
  SPEAKER_02: So, so who else who can they have as their oil?
• 36:41
  SPEAKER_02: Well, that's from our third round.
• 36:42
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, that's from our third round.
• 36:44
  SPEAKER_02: So it's just them in a city.
• 36:45
  SPEAKER_04: Well, but it's so I I feel so Mr.
• 36:47
  SPEAKER_04: Clean, he's sort of the cleaning ninja.
• 36:49
  SPEAKER_04: I mean, he can he can be wherever he wants to be.
• 36:52
  SPEAKER_04: No, he can teleport.
• 36:54
  SPEAKER_04: He can't.
• 36:54
  SPEAKER_04: I think um, yeah, Mr.
• 36:55
  SPEAKER_04: Clean can teleport.
• 36:56
  SPEAKER_04: He can't, he goes to wherever there's dirt and gram hiding.
• 37:00
  SPEAKER_04: And he definitely considers Brawny to be Grammy.
• 37:03
  SPEAKER_02: I think he I think I've seen him in like um I think they've had like little he's turned microscopic.
• 37:09
  SPEAKER_02: I think I've seen him.
• 37:10
  SPEAKER_03: I think he has powers.
• 37:11
  SPEAKER_02: I think I think I think I've seen him, I think he's like a genie.
• 37:15
  SPEAKER_02: I think he's something.
• 37:16
  SPEAKER_02: I think he might be a genie.
• 37:17
  SPEAKER_02: I don't think that counts in the first round though, because No, no, because it's just a it's a punch for punch.
• 37:22
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 37:23
  SPEAKER_02: So so in this one, I think he's a genie.
• 37:27
  SPEAKER_02: Which I don't know if if a lumber even a lumberjack could could could compete with a genie.
• 37:33
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I I don't think he let me see here.
• 37:38
  SPEAKER_03: So he's got his own jingle.
• 37:43
  SPEAKER_03: We need to find now sadly there is no Mr.
• 37:47
  SPEAKER_04: Clean wiki where we can really go into there.
• 37:51
  SPEAKER_04: So uh nerds get on it.
• 37:53
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah.
• 37:54
  SPEAKER_04: Um however, however.
• 37:58
  SPEAKER_04: I n I can swore I've seen Mr.
• 38:01
  SPEAKER_04: Clean turn into a tornado.
• 38:04
  SPEAKER_04: I've never seen that.
• 38:05
  SPEAKER_04: Or am I thinking of Taz?
• 38:07
  SPEAKER_04: I think he I think you're thinking of a Looney Tune.
• 38:09
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 38:10
  SPEAKER_04: Sorry.
• 38:11
  SPEAKER_04: Well, I do know he has magical powers.
• 38:13
  SPEAKER_04: I've seen him like snap his fingers and the kitchen's clean.
• 38:16
  SPEAKER_04: Yes, he does have some kind of magic.
• 38:17
  SPEAKER_02: He does have some sort of magic.
• 38:19
  SPEAKER_02: And he he also is a diverse thinker.
• 38:21
  SPEAKER_02: I think you're right that Brawny Man.
• 38:23
  SPEAKER_02: He's just gonna come with an axe and paper towels.
• 38:25
  SPEAKER_02: And paper towels.
• 38:26
  SPEAKER_02: He's a paper, he's he's a strictly axe and paper towel man.
• 38:29
  SPEAKER_04: Mr.
• 38:30
  SPEAKER_04: Clean's got his own Swiffers, he's got the magic eraser, he's got spray products.
• 38:35
  SPEAKER_04: He's gonna come like Kevin McAllister with just a bandolier of sprays and various scented cleaning material.
• 38:45
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, and I think uh and I think he's got more range with it.
• 38:50
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I mean I'm gonna have to give it.
• 38:52
  SPEAKER_02: I I agree actually.
• 38:53
  SPEAKER_02: I just think I just think that Mr.
• 38:55
  SPEAKER_02: Clean is a He's got some sort of power.
• 38:57
  SPEAKER_02: He's he's got some sort of magic that we don't know the extents of, and also he is a diverse thinker.
• 39:04
  SPEAKER_02: He thinks in a in a really diverse manner.
• 39:08
  SPEAKER_02: He uses the right tool for the job.
• 39:10
  SPEAKER_02: And m and brawny man.
• 39:12
  SPEAKER_02: Just use the paper towel as an axe.
• 39:13
  SPEAKER_01: Paper towel is for everything.
• 39:15
  SPEAKER_01: You can do anything with a paper towel.
• 39:18
  SPEAKER_01: I am the Brawny man.
• 39:21
  SPEAKER_02: Also, I've got an axe, and those are the things that I'm about.
• 39:26
  SPEAKER_04: Alright, well, so second round, our manhunt round goes to Mr.
• 39:30
  SPEAKER_04: Clean.
• 39:30
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 39:31
  SPEAKER_04: So round one went to Bronny, round two goes to Mr.
• 39:33
  SPEAKER_04: Clean.
• 39:33
  SPEAKER_04: Now, third round, we enter into the same sort of business, except this time they have a friend.
• 39:40
  SPEAKER_02: So I think this is where Bronny Man, because Bronny Man has a third attribute that I think that I I'm pretty sure I remember this.
• 39:50
  SPEAKER_02: At one point, Bronny Man showed up in commercials and seduced women with his paper towel seduction.
• 40:00
  SPEAKER_02: I know Mr.
• 40:01
  SPEAKER_02: Clean does that too, doesn't he?
• 40:03
  SPEAKER_02: Mr.
• 40:03
  SPEAKER_02: Clean, like has a little flirty thing with him, and they're like, oh you, you know.
• 40:07
  SPEAKER_02: But you're thinking of Bronny, really.
• 40:09
  SPEAKER_02: Bronny, like, they were really like, Brawny Man's, we'll fuck you by our paper towels.
• 40:14
  SPEAKER_02: I swear to God that that was like ready to get fucked.
• 40:17
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I was like, they're they were like, man, we really want to associate paper towels and fucking, and we gotta figure out how.
• 40:23
  SPEAKER_02: And they were like, dad, look, we're like some sexy flannel dude was like, I'm gonna fuck you.
• 40:28
  SPEAKER_01: Here's the paper towels.
• 40:32
  SPEAKER_02: And and I and I think that I think that maybe that gives Fronnie Man the edge when like he's gonna fuck him.
• 40:40
  SPEAKER_02: He could recruit anybody because he has seduction.
• 40:44
  SPEAKER_04: But but would his would his number one be the femme version of himself?
• 40:48
  SPEAKER_04: I don't know.
• 40:49
  SPEAKER_04: Or or or the shaman bears.
• 40:51
  SPEAKER_04: Because they they come from the same region.
• 40:54
  SPEAKER_04: The forests.
• 40:55
  SPEAKER_04: But or do you think they'd be enemies?
• 40:57
  SPEAKER_04: Do you think the shaman bears would be enemies because he's chopping down trees?
• 40:59
  SPEAKER_04: Well, they're competitors.
• 41:01
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, so okay, so he wouldn't have.
• 41:03
  SPEAKER_02: They're both supplying paper products.
• 41:05
  SPEAKER_04: And uh and one wipes his ass with it and the other one fucks you with it.
• 41:09
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 41:10
  SPEAKER_01: Well, he puts it down on the counter and then says and then butts you on the counter, and then you use the paper towels to clean up.
• 41:18
  SPEAKER_01: That's what Bronny would be.
• 41:19
  SPEAKER_04: Clean up his just eruption all over the counter.
• 41:22
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 41:23
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so no, I think they'd be enemies, bears and lumberjacks, uh historically not great friends.
• 41:30
  SPEAKER_04: Uh yeah, and then the sharp and bears have shown time and time again that they only care about wiping their ass.
• 41:36
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 41:37
  unknown: Yeah.
• 41:38
  SPEAKER_04: So they wouldn't be involved.
• 41:39
  SPEAKER_04: They'd be a neutral party.
• 41:40
  unknown: Yeah.
• 41:41
  SPEAKER_02: We'll have to do one on the sharp bears.
• 41:42
  SPEAKER_02: I don't want to get into it right now.
• 41:43
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, okay.
• 41:44
  SPEAKER_02: That's excellent.
• 41:45
  SPEAKER_02: I can say I have a lot to say about the sharp bears.
• 41:51
  SPEAKER_04: So we feel that he's then going to bring one of the people he's fucked as his plus one.
• 41:58
  SPEAKER_02: I think he can I think he can I think he or she, Madam uh they both have the power of seduction, and they can anybody who is available, like in the area, they can seduce and recruit that person.
• 42:13
  SPEAKER_02: So I think that this offers them a huge advantage.
• 42:17
  SPEAKER_04: Like if he like seduces a senator or something.
• 42:20
  SPEAKER_02: Or or like a policeman with a gun.
• 42:22
  SPEAKER_02: With a gun.
• 42:23
  SPEAKER_01: And then that policeman just fucking shoots uh shoots Mr.
• 42:27
  SPEAKER_01: Clean.
• 42:28
  SPEAKER_01: Who's Mr.
• 42:28
  SPEAKER_01: Clean bringing to the table?
• 42:30
  SPEAKER_01: I don't I honestly don't know.
• 42:31
  SPEAKER_04: So I think that uh Mr.
• 42:32
  SPEAKER_04: Clean to bring to the table because they occupy a lot of the same land here.
• 42:38
  SPEAKER_04: I think that Mr.
• 42:39
  SPEAKER_04: Clean is bringing the pine saw woman.
• 42:43
  SPEAKER_04: And she herself has magical powers.
• 42:46
  SPEAKER_04: She does have magical power.
• 42:49
  SPEAKER_02: It is.
• 42:49
  SPEAKER_02: It is.
• 42:50
  unknown: Oh man.
• 42:53
  SPEAKER_04: And and she herself is immune to seduction.
• 42:57
  SPEAKER_04: She would see That's true.
• 43:00
  SPEAKER_04: She would see Brianny coming a mile away.
• 43:02
  SPEAKER_02: I think I think that she is like in the commercials, I think she is a like I think part of her personality is being aware of people's bullshit.
• 43:10
  SPEAKER_02: I think so too.
• 43:12
  SPEAKER_02: I think it's be I think being aware of people's bullshit is a power, and I think she canonically has that power.
• 43:18
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 43:18
  SPEAKER_02: And I think that's great that she would bring that to the table.
• 43:21
  SPEAKER_04: So we're saying that Mr.
• 43:22
  SPEAKER_04: Clean would definitely bring the pine salt lady.
• 43:25
  SPEAKER_04: I don't know.
• 43:26
  SPEAKER_04: I think so.
• 43:26
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know who else Mr.
• 43:27
  SPEAKER_02: Clean could bring.
• 43:28
  SPEAKER_02: I think he is a very solitary figure, and I think that that he went to the pine saw lady with this proposition like magical cleaning people gotta stick together.
• 43:38
  SPEAKER_02: There's like two of us.
• 43:39
  SPEAKER_01: And then we went up to our mountainside villa.
• 43:43
  SPEAKER_01: I got this lumberjack.
• 43:44
  SPEAKER_01: Dunk into the rock.
• 43:46
  SPEAKER_01: I got this lumberjack who's trying to murder me, and you know, we magic cleaning people gotta stick together.
• 43:50
  SPEAKER_01: We gotta be tired during these tri times.
• 43:53
  SPEAKER_01: I gotta manage an axe.
• 43:59
  SPEAKER_04: Oh shit.
• 44:00
  SPEAKER_04: So they descend from their mountaintop, like the cleaning version of Mount Olympus.
• 44:09
  SPEAKER_04: And it's time to go to war with these this motherfucker.
• 44:13
  SPEAKER_02: So I wish I knew.
• 44:15
  SPEAKER_02: what the extents of their powers were.
• 44:17
  SPEAKER_04: It well see, I think the power of pine salt, I think she within the pantheon of cleaning deities, she's a uh a very she's a high figure.
• 44:28
  SPEAKER_04: Like she's the all mother.
• 44:30
  SPEAKER_02: Really?
• 44:31
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 44:31
  SPEAKER_02: Wow, that high?
• 44:32
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 44:33
  SPEAKER_02: I would have thought she was like a like a psychopom because she could also oh and no Mr.
• 44:38
  SPEAKER_02: Clean's like a psychopath.
• 44:40
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah he's the Hermes.
• 44:41
  SPEAKER_02: He can teleport.
• 44:42
  SPEAKER_02: And she's Zeus.
• 44:44
  SPEAKER_02: Wow she is po she is I have seen some commercials where she was doing some crazy shit because because I I think Mr.
• 44:51
  SPEAKER_02: Clean shrunk down.
• 44:53
  SPEAKER_02: I know Pine Some Lady has shrunk down.
• 44:56
  SPEAKER_02: I I know that that the people were putting her face next to little pieces of dirt and shit because she shrunk down.
• 45:02
  SPEAKER_02: I oh man advertising is a crazy world it makes no sense if if you've seen any advertisement recently you know what I'm talking about advertising is a crazy thing.
• 45:14
  SPEAKER_04: They they do something weird to our brains this shit shouldn't exist so well so alright so so then we're we're saying um the Pine saw lady and Mr Clean have formed this alliance against Brawny Man with his axe and whomever he has seduced yeah and and and one person that Bronny if Bronny Man can reach them he can seduce them so that's that's gonna be his power then so so he has access.
• 45:53
  SPEAKER_04: Yes he has access so if you were so if you were a man or woman whose whose sole power was fuck someone to the level of satisfaction required for them to give up their entire life to support your goals with with the promises that they'd fuck again.
• 46:19
  SPEAKER_01: If you bought his paper towels I'm gonna fuck you the best you've ever been fucked in your life you better buy my goddamn paper towels we're gonna get a season desist letter from Brian where are you getting fucking like shut up you know exactly where you know exactly where we got it from because we did commercials you did commercials where the browning man fucked ladies with his eyes up in the middle of the day.
• 46:48
  SPEAKER_04: Don't give us that don't give us that I So I I don't think there's a wiki on the Pine saw lady but I know she's powerful.
• 46:59
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah and I I think what this comes down to is a man who's really good at fucking and wielding an axe versus two deities of cleaning I think that's what it comes down to.
• 47:22
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah I think I also think that's what it comes down to I think I think we're not giving Brawny man enough credit.
• 47:28
  SPEAKER_02: I'm sure they've given him some more powers recently I I honestly think that you know just a sex symbol you think I think I think that was it.
• 47:37
  SPEAKER_02: Listen everybody if you dis if you want to dispute this one we'll allow this one this one time where we did not sit down and watch all the new commercials for Ronnie if he has some special powers let us know.
• 47:50
  SPEAKER_04: We'll take this one into consideration we'll we'll scratch another episode of this because apparently there's a lot of canon and lore to explore here I didn't mean to rhyme but uh so but from right now from where we're standing we have a man who's really good at vugging and his ex and we'll say a state senator versus two deities of cleaning who are capable of microscopic transformation.
• 48:21
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah they could like go in they could go inside him and then turn back to normal size and explode him from the inside but I I truly think that Mr Clean would be able to magically erase him.
• 48:33
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah possibly I think that's within the realms of his ability I don't know if Mr yeah as far as I'm as far as I know Bronny Man does not have any like superpowers yeah and he's got a barbell I think that I think that Mr.
• 48:49
  SPEAKER_01: Clean would myrtalize him I think that he'd create the he'd make the floor super clean real quick and Bronyman would fucking slip and cut his own head off with his fucking dare challenge me axes are fucking dangerous.
• 49:07
  SPEAKER_04: I've almost cut my foot off like four fucking times with an axe well so there you have it folks at home don't don't practice with an axe before you start swinging it around practice practice practice practice before and I see now I think his super sexuality do you think that's what brownie paper towels are for where possibly where like you wet one side and like this this side is is wet and this side is dry after the fact I don't think that works.
• 49:39
  SPEAKER_04: What are you talking about?
• 49:41
  SPEAKER_04: After the act of being fucked by Brawny is obviously a mess.
• 49:46
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah yeah and so like one side is that's a given yeah and so one side is wet so you can you know take care of whatever's going on there and then one side's dry so you finish it off at the end.
• 49:57
  SPEAKER_01: I mean I guess I mean it's he unless Bronny's just gonna leave you there just covered he gave you the towel you bought the paper towel you know what it just throws the roll at your head our transaction is done why the fuck else would I say you bought the paper towels I'm Brawny fuck you give me an Uber in the epic battle between Mr.
• 50:29
  SPEAKER_04: Clean and the Bronny man or ma'am Mr.
• 50:33
  SPEAKER_04: Clean is gonna take it two out of three goes giving Mr.
• 50:38
  SPEAKER_04: Clean the for the first and only time and this is only episode we're we're drinking you know this shit happens um first and only time we're gonna allow this if uh you feel that this would have gone some other way and that Bronny had something to one up Mr.
• 50:52
  SPEAKER_04: Clean let us know and uh maybe we'll reconsider.
• 50:57
  SPEAKER_04: But until then uh Mr.
• 50:58
  SPEAKER_04: Clean definitely takes it um so James would you like one more before we hit the road fuck no yeah let's do it okay here we go and folks at home if you want to go ahead and pour yourself whatever it is you're pouring we'd like to me and James Swift here would like to thank you for joining us here's to episode two load that's a power pine salt does it taste like pine it's good right the the Captain Morgan's black spice well when they uh come to us with an offer I'll let you know until then and take what you will have a good one everybody