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Reclamation projects for the Pirates? · Bucco Territory: A Pittsburgh Pirates Podcast

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  Speaker 1: What's up, everybody?
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  Speaker 2: Welcome back to another episode of Bucco Territory, presented by
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  Speaker 2: the Foul Territory Network. I'm your host, Noah Jiles, and
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  Speaker 2: as always, joining me on this fine program are our
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  Speaker 2: two co hosts, Jay Hey aka Josh Harrison and Mark
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  Speaker 2: aka Platinum Key Fellas.
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  Speaker 1: How are we doing?
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  Speaker 3: Doing good? Excited to be here.
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  Speaker 4: Loving it almost some Thanksgiving time, So getting ready for
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  Speaker 4: some turkey with the family.
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  Speaker 2: I was gonna say, so Thanksgiving week coming up? What's
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  Speaker 2: everyone's favorite go to dish? We'll start with you, Mark,
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  Speaker 2: since you brought it up.
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  Speaker 4: It's stuffing. My dad makes this phenomenal stuffing and I
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  Speaker 4: eat like a whole entire plate of just that. It's
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  Speaker 4: my go to. I love it.
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  Speaker 5: Well. I ain't mad at that, so I get, you know,
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  Speaker 5: the liberty of usually frying a turkey the past couple
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  Speaker 5: of years, but not doing that this year. I've been
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  Speaker 5: someone with smoking some ribs, But what I really care
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  Speaker 5: for the sides. You give me some macaroni, cheese, some yams,
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  Speaker 5: and some greens. That's all I care for. Like, you know,
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  Speaker 5: the main course, you know, turkey, chicken, whatever, that's cool,
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  Speaker 5: But you know, if I'm going back for seconds. I'm
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  Speaker 5: getting some jams, some macaroni cheese, some greens.
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  Speaker 1: Mark.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, like stuffing to me, Like I don't understand why
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  Speaker 2: we don't eat stuffing more like we only eat it
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  Speaker 2: one day a year, yeah, or like you know, like
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  Speaker 2: certain restaurants will have like, oh, try our Thanksgiving special meal,
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  Speaker 2: you know, like when November rolls around.
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  Speaker 1: But it's like Stuffing's genuinely good.
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  Speaker 3: I like it.
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  Speaker 2: My favorite thing about Thanksgiving, well aside from like you know,
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  Speaker 2: the traditional things, is like I think it's some of
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  Speaker 2: the best leftover food you can get. So many different
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  Speaker 2: variations of it too, Like I think, like the hold
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  Speaker 2: turkey sandwich with mashed potatoes and stuffing everything.
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  Speaker 5: My grandma makes this turkey hash with leftover turkey is
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  Speaker 5: like potatoes carrots, makes it into like this like broth
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  Speaker 5: of soup.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, please, how you do it? Man.
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  Speaker 2: That's the other part of it that's cool too, is
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  Speaker 2: like everyone's family has their own different things, you know,
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  Speaker 2: and that's it's awesome to be a.
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  Speaker 1: Part of all.
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  Speaker 2: Right, on the note of Thanksgiving, actually, I don't even
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  Speaker 2: have a smooth transition transition not connected at all to Thanksgiving. Actually,
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  Speaker 2: some roster moves were made last week non tender decisions. Mark,
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  Speaker 2: We're going to talk about non tender decisions all throughout
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  Speaker 2: the league on this show, but before we do that,
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  Speaker 2: just give us a rundown of some of the moves
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  Speaker 2: the Pirates made last week.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, so the Pirates four guys that nothing really too shocking.
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  Speaker 4: It was Darry Moretta, Colin Holderman, Ronnie Simon, and Alexander Canario.
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  Speaker 4: So a couple of the position players that were right
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  Speaker 4: on the borderline of the roster never really clicked. And
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  Speaker 4: then two of the relief pitchers with Holderman and Moretta.
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  Speaker 4: Holderman had a really solid twenty three back when he
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  Speaker 4: was traded for Vogelbach and then just has really struggled
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  Speaker 4: ever since then. But it may have just been I
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  Speaker 4: don't know if the Pirates wanted to pay what he's
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  Speaker 4: gonna cost, but it was probably time to move on.
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  Speaker 4: And then Dari Moretta nasty slider, one of the most
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  Speaker 4: unique pitches in baseball. Josh, his slider breaks arms side
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  Speaker 4: and he doesn't know why, but he throws it like
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  Speaker 4: a slider, calls a slider. But he had Tom John
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  Speaker 4: surgery in twenty twenty four, and so ever since coming
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  Speaker 4: back from that, he just hit the slider hasn't been
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  Speaker 4: nearly as effectives. Yeah, and he throws it like sixty
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  Speaker 4: five percent of the time, so if that isn't as effective,
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  Speaker 4: he's just overall on this effect. But he is the
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  Speaker 4: most electric relief pitcher. He's the guy that does.
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  Speaker 1: The Yeah, exactly.
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  Speaker 4: So yeah, de Naro, Dari, money, Moretta, big bank, just
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  Speaker 4: unlimited aura. But yeah, it struggled a little bit this year,
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  Speaker 4: so we'll see where he lands. But those are the
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  Speaker 4: four people off the Pirates roster. And then they offered
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  Speaker 4: Jack Zwinsky a one point five million dollar deal to
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  Speaker 4: buy out before arbitration, so kind of gives the Pirates
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  Speaker 4: an extra option year with him just because he's out
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  Speaker 4: of options. So gives it a level where other teams
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  Speaker 4: might not want to sign him if they do end
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  Speaker 4: up moving him down.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, nothing really surprising there, and I didn't anticipate
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  Speaker 2: anything much different. I mean, the Murray any thing, I
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  Speaker 2: think was probably the most surprising of the bunch. But overall, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I'm not too shocked about that. But around baseball, there
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  Speaker 2: were some shocking non tender moves and we're going to
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  Speaker 2: All Right, so looking around the league fellas obviously, every
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  Speaker 2: team had to get its roster in place for the
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  Speaker 2: offseason ahead, and there were some notable names that were
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  Speaker 2: non tendered this winter.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like probably.
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  Speaker 2: A better group than normal seasons as far as just
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  Speaker 2: name recognition. Guys who might not have had the best
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  Speaker 2: year in twenty twenty five, but aren't far from removed
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  Speaker 2: from some significant seasons. And when you look at these
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  Speaker 2: lists of this list of names, I see a handful
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  Speaker 2: of guys who I think would be intriguing pickups for
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  Speaker 2: the Pirates. Now, do I see any names that are
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  Speaker 2: like true difference makers that will like get fans super excited?
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  Speaker 2: Maybe probably not. But do I see names of guys
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  Speaker 2: who could come in and be a tune player or
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  Speaker 2: you know, the first guy off the bench utility man
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  Speaker 2: type player, or maybe just someone on a rebound contract
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  Speaker 2: that could potentially add depth to the active roster. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I think there are people out there who just became
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  Speaker 2: free agents because they got non tendered that could make
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  Speaker 2: the Pirates a better baseball team. And would probably be
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  Speaker 2: in a reasonable price range, probably be looking to sign
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  Speaker 2: one of those one year, ten million or less dollar
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  Speaker 2: deals that they've been so familiar with. So, guys, we
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  Speaker 2: looked over the list of all of these players. I
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  Speaker 2: want to go around everyone throw out one name. Will
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  Speaker 2: start with you, Josh, who's a guy who got non
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  Speaker 2: tendered last week that you think would make sense for
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  Speaker 2: the Pirates to kick the tires on.
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  Speaker 5: So looking through the list, I saw some names and
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  Speaker 5: there were a few that popped out, but one, and
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  Speaker 5: you're going to have to let me know based off
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  Speaker 5: of you know, positioning and what's there. But the one
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  Speaker 5: that stuck out to me was Jonah Hie switching and catcher.
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  Speaker 5: You talk about a guy who's got a World Series,
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  Speaker 5: who's dealt with, you know, multiple veteran pitchers at different
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  Speaker 5: you know.
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  Speaker 3: Stages of their career.
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  Speaker 5: Pittsburgh could be a fresh start with you know and
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  Speaker 5: already established Paul Schemes and some other you know, Mitch
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  Speaker 5: Keller if he's still there, but you know the likes
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  Speaker 5: of the pitching that has been a strength for the Pirates.
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  Speaker 5: You know, you can bring in a veteran backstop that
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  Speaker 5: can help on that defensive side, but also can provide
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  Speaker 5: you some you know, timely pop, you know, from both
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  Speaker 5: sides of the plate, and you know you're only as
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  Speaker 5: good as your defense, and catching is one of the
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  Speaker 5: most important, if not the most important position on the field.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, him is an intriguing guy.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, the switch hitter element of it I think
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  Speaker 2: is interesting. I mean the defense I think has declined
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  Speaker 2: for him, and in recent seasons in the offense isn't
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  Speaker 2: where he's at. I mean, he's not far removed from
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  Speaker 2: an All Star campaign. I want to say that was
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  Speaker 2: in twenty three, yep, the year they won the World Series,
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  Speaker 2: which is an additional value.
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  Speaker 1: I think he makes the team better.
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  Speaker 2: I just think if you're bringing in him, you're probably
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  Speaker 2: getting rid of Joey Bart, which I don't necessarily hate.
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  Speaker 1: The idea of I would be open to it.
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  Speaker 2: It would just it would be an interesting conversation because
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  Speaker 2: I mean, the bat has been declining. Like you look
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  Speaker 2: at the swing metrics, they're not necessarily pretty under the
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  Speaker 2: hood right now. But I mean he's putting up better
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  Speaker 2: offensive numbers than their primary catcher did last year, So
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  Speaker 2: I don't hate that one.
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  Speaker 1: Mark. What are your thoughts on it, and then you
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  Speaker 1: go ahead and throw out a name as well.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm a little apprehensive on him. He's his ops
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  Speaker 4: has been like six hundred the last two seasons, but again,
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  Speaker 4: you look at twenty twenty three and that's an all
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  Speaker 4: star city in there, just if you can retap into that,
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  Speaker 4: especially a position of needs. So it's intriguing that you're
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  Speaker 4: not going to find any perfect fits in this non
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  Speaker 4: tenderpool necessarily, but he's definitely t and along the same
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  Speaker 4: lines of Tim. Another twenty twenty three World Series winner
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  Speaker 4: Adulas Garcia. I mean, he had thirty nine homers in
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  Speaker 4: twenty twenty three, had a legendary postseason where he was
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  Speaker 4: the World Series hero, and then has pretty much just
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  Speaker 4: dropped off the past two years six eighty four ops
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  Speaker 4: and twenty twenty four, and then he had like a
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  Speaker 4: ninety three ops plus this past year, which not great.
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  Speaker 4: But if you have that kind of pop sitting in there,
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  Speaker 4: I mean, the pirates need every chance at power and
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  Speaker 4: slugging that they can get. So that's that's pretty intriguing.
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  Speaker 4: But he's probably I think he's projected to make around
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  Speaker 4: like twelve million this year, so you have to factor
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  Speaker 4: that into is if the Pirates have a limited budget,
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  Speaker 4: do you want to risk twelve million on hoping that
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  Speaker 4: a Doulas Garcia gets back to where he was in
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  Speaker 4: twenty twenty three.
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  Speaker 3: I just thought he might have been the most expensive.
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  Speaker 5: That was the only crazy, you know, because you know,
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  Speaker 5: I've been saying we need to impact back, but I
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  Speaker 5: thought he was the most expensive on the list that
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  Speaker 5: I saw. Absolutely, but I'm not against it either. I
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  Speaker 5: was just trying to stay within the budget, but also
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  Speaker 5: looking at other places that if I must spend money
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  Speaker 5: on the bat, I want to spend money on it
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  Speaker 5: and not hope for a bounce back year.
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  Speaker 4: And I think Tim was projected for like six million,
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  Speaker 4: so half the cost of Garcia.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean a lot of the same things
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  Speaker 2: that we just valued him, or like all the good
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  Speaker 2: traits that we kind of talked about with him, aside
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  Speaker 2: from the catcher element obviously, but you're talking about a
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  Speaker 2: veteran guy who's not far removed from some of the
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  Speaker 2: best years of his career, a guy who's won a championship.
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  Speaker 2: I also think there's value in Adulas Garcia because they've
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  Speaker 2: been missing a leadership presence from the Latin community. On
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  Speaker 2: this team, I think someone who might connect a little
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  Speaker 2: better with a guy like O'Neil Cruz. We saw the
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  Speaker 2: benefit of having a rold As Chapman and what that
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  Speaker 2: did for young pitchers in the organization the Latin Pictures
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  Speaker 2: twenty twenty four, the way he connected with Luis Ortiz,
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  Speaker 2: the way he connected with Dennis Santana.
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  Speaker 1: I think that O'Neil really hasn't had.
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  Speaker 2: That type of older figure to play alongside, and a
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  Speaker 2: Doulas Garcia. I mean, I wouldn't pay twelve million for
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  Speaker 2: a Dolas Garcia, but if I could get him for
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  Speaker 2: one year under ten, I definitely would. I think he's
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  Speaker 2: I mean, his glove is definitely not what it was,
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  Speaker 2: but it's still probably an upgrade defensively compared to Reynolds
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  Speaker 2: and right field.
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  Speaker 1: Reynolds probably would rather.
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  Speaker 3: He's got an absolute cannon.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he's got a cannon of which which is
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  Speaker 2: what you want.
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  Speaker 1: At pans apartment, right, you.
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  Speaker 2: Can you can steal a lot of outs at second base,
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  Speaker 2: and guys trying to get an extra ninety feet on
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  Speaker 2: you probably don't know how deep that is, right, And
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  Speaker 2: then you get a little too aggressive, you can get
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  Speaker 2: a lot of outs that way, He's someone I could
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  Speaker 2: even see platooning Reynolds with, where if it's against a
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  Speaker 2: lefty on the mound, you could just Dhm and Reynolds
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  Speaker 2: can play in right field or vice versa, give each
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  Speaker 2: other some off days.
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  Speaker 1: Don't hate that one.
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  Speaker 5: Uh.
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  Speaker 2: I was also thinking along the lines of outfielders I have.
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna throw two names out here. My number one person,
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  Speaker 2: probably out of anyone, would be Mike talking just just
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  Speaker 2: looking at it. And again, this is not a sexy
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  Speaker 2: name by any means. He's he has. His numbers don't
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  Speaker 2: necessarily jump off the page. But Mike Takman went and
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  Speaker 2: played in Korea in twenty twenty two. Since then, his
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  Speaker 2: last three seasons, his ops plus has have been one thirteen,
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  Speaker 2: one eight, and one seventeen.
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  Speaker 1: So he's been a bet.
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  Speaker 2: He's been an above league gaverage hitter since going over
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  Speaker 2: to the KBO and kind of reinventing the offensive side
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  Speaker 2: of his game.
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  Speaker 1: He is an average glove.
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  Speaker 2: I think he was like exactly average as a defender
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  Speaker 2: left side left hits from the left side.
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  Speaker 1: I think he's a perfect platoon guy.
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  Speaker 2: I think you acquire him and you can get the
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  Speaker 2: equivalent of value that you got from like Connor Joe
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  Speaker 2: in twenty twenty three, someone who's slightly above league average
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  Speaker 2: at the plate, someone who can maybe hit you twenty doubles,
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  Speaker 2: a guy who won't hurt you defensively, and if you
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  Speaker 2: platoon him with the right guy, I mean.
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  Speaker 1: Heck, you could platoon Garcia and Tuckman.
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  Speaker 2: I guess in a way right in one world, like
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  Speaker 2: you can make that work where righty lefty. I don't
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  Speaker 2: know if I love that exact platoon, but I think
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  Speaker 2: he would be like a perfect platoon guy to look into,
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  Speaker 2: and someone who would absolutely not break your bank at all.
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  Speaker 2: The other guy that I would look at as far
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  Speaker 2: as the outfield situation is concerned, is JJ Bledet someone
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  Speaker 2: who too like twenty four.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, he had a great.
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  Speaker 2: Season for Oakland in twenty twenty four, their final year
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  Speaker 2: in Oakland, so I can say that historic and it's
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  Speaker 2: historically accurate. Yeah he was not Yeah, he was not
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  Speaker 2: good last year. He was a negative war player at
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  Speaker 2: a sub one hundred ohps plus. And he's that's kind
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  Speaker 2: of been more connected to his career trends. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: he's been up and down, more down than up. But
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  Speaker 2: he's he's twenty seven. I think you could get him
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  Speaker 2: for a very reasonable price. He's from western Pennsylvania, he
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  Speaker 2: grew up near the Eerie area, so I don't think
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  Speaker 2: it would be hard to sell him to come here.
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  Speaker 2: And the reason I'm honing in on these two left
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  Speaker 2: handed outfielders, left handed hitting outfielders, is because I'm looking
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  Speaker 2: for Jacksonwinski replacements. And this isn't to say I'm like
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  Speaker 2: chasing Jacksoninsky out of town, but there's not a lot
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  Speaker 2: of confidence in him right now, and there shouldn't be.
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  Speaker 2: He hasn't played good baseball in years. And I mean,
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  Speaker 2: like Mark kind of laid out in the last segment,
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  Speaker 2: Swinsky's a guy that they basically just created a fourth
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  Speaker 2: option year for by paying him one point twenty five
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  Speaker 2: mil so they can dfam and no one's probably gonna
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  Speaker 2: claim that contract. Yeah, and you look at Takman and Bladet.
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  Speaker 2: I look at those guys. I think those are better
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  Speaker 2: baseball players than jack Sowinsky right now. And I would
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  Speaker 2: bring them in to kind of create a competition. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and just yeah, and just say I would. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I wouldn't even be opposed of signing all three. I'm
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  Speaker 2: sure Bludey might even sign like a minor league deal,
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  Speaker 2: who knows, and just have them compete in camp and say,
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  Speaker 2: you know, one of you is gonna be our starting
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  Speaker 2: right fielder or at least gonna be an opening day
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  Speaker 2: roster guy.
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  Speaker 1: The other two we'll see. I mean one of the other,
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  Speaker 1: one of you might make the team.
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  Speaker 2: One of you's gonna get DFA and not make the
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  Speaker 2: team out of camp and create that competition.
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  Speaker 1: I don't.
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  Speaker 2: Again, that's not gonna make this team reach the next level,
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  Speaker 2: but building that depth I think.
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  Speaker 1: Is a good thing.
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  Speaker 2: And those guys have all shown traits that give me
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  Speaker 2: a lot more confidence in their ability to produce than
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  Speaker 2: some of the guys they have at their position right now.
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  Speaker 4: I really like the talkman pickup. I mean he's had
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  Speaker 4: a three p fifty on base percentage every single year,
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  Speaker 4: are higher since coming over from Korea. You don't had
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  Speaker 4: nine home runs last year, But I mean the guy
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  Speaker 4: gets on base, yeah, and that's all that might drive him.
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  Speaker 3: Man.
• 17:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah, So I really like it. Good fit should be
• 17:11
  Speaker 4: pretty cheap, so.
• 17:12
  Speaker 5: I mean, I'm not opposed to either or just to
• 17:14
  Speaker 5: hit on a blue day. I understand he had the
• 17:16
  Speaker 5: great year in twenty four you said this past year
• 17:18
  Speaker 5: might have been more back to what he's more been
• 17:21
  Speaker 5: in line with with his career, but also taking a
• 17:23
  Speaker 5: step further. Could be a change of scene ory getting
• 17:25
  Speaker 5: closer to home, not playing in Oakland, playing you know,
• 17:29
  Speaker 5: not a big league stadium. It's a lot that goes on.
• 17:32
  Speaker 5: Not making an excuse for him, but as you said,
• 17:34
  Speaker 5: you might you might be able to find, you know,
• 17:36
  Speaker 5: lightning in a bottle where it's like, oh man, he's
• 17:38
  Speaker 5: got it. Not that he doesn't have something to play for,
• 17:40
  Speaker 5: but now instead of being like going from Oakland to
• 17:43
  Speaker 5: wherever he playing, now I'm close to home. Could be
• 17:46
  Speaker 5: you know a little incentive that you know, he's like,
• 17:48
  Speaker 5: oh man, I'm close to home, and that that could
• 17:51
  Speaker 5: be something at least something I've played against, you know,
• 17:54
  Speaker 5: Topman he as well too when he came back.
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: I thinks with the Yankees, very good at that.
• 17:59
  Speaker 5: I thought he was a solid outfielder, gave good at bats,
• 18:01
  Speaker 5: and uh, I mean that's ultimately what you want, is
• 18:04
  Speaker 5: they lineup that can produce good at bats, put you know,
• 18:06
  Speaker 5: pitcher in a tough spot and get on base.
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: So I'm not opposed either one.
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: I just look at some of these guys, and I
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: think that.
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: The Pirates could gain a lot from just deepening their
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: I think a lot of people believe this team already
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: has a lot of quada players, and they're not wrong.
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: But I think having established guys who aren't far removed
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: from being everyday big leaguers probably start the year in
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: Triple A, I think that's a sign.
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: Of a decent baseball team too.
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: Whereas, like you know, we look at last April, where
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: a couple of guys go down and there are players
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: playing every day in the major leagues for this team
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: who just should not be playing every day major league baseball.
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: Who have never done that before.
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: Where and if you load up on these guys who
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: are going to be cheap again, guys like Blade, guys
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: like Talkman, you load your system up with that, and
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: you structure their on track to say, hey, you know what,
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: you're gonna be a highly paid minor leaguer if we
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: keep you you know, uh, and you're and you're gonna
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: contribute at some point. I think that's something that a
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: lot of good organizations do. And uh again, yeah, it's
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: not gonna be the sexy move you make. But I
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: think if you know, an injury or two happens and
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: you need a center fielder, having JJ Bledet as a
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: backup option as opposed to who is yeah, yeah, like
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: I don't even know who would be the backup center
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: field right now? Yeah obviously yeah, but like, yeah, last
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: year you're relying on guys like Matt Gorsky, g Wan Day,
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: Alexander Canario. I think these are better options than those guys,
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: and they and they shouldn't cost much more.
• 19:44
  Speaker 5: I mean, that makes a lot of sense. I'm gonna
• 19:46
  Speaker 5: be honest with you, you know, hearing the list of
• 19:50
  Speaker 5: names that just threw out there, not trying to be funny,
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: I don't know any of those guys. And you know
• 19:56
  Speaker 5: I'm big on the defense side of I've been talking
• 19:58
  Speaker 5: big with you know. We need a power back, need
• 20:00
  Speaker 5: a parabat, need a parabat. But also, you're only as
• 20:03
  Speaker 5: good as your depth is. So to your point, though,
• 20:06
  Speaker 5: you do have to take care of depth pieces and
• 20:08
  Speaker 5: do not let that be the last thing you take
• 20:09
  Speaker 5: care of. If that's something you can get out ahead of,
• 20:13
  Speaker 5: that is definitely something that you need because every team
• 20:15
  Speaker 5: is going to go through.
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: Injuries and something the Pirates cantrue.
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean this is this is the money that
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: you invested in Tommy fam and Andrew Hany last year.
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: You could sign two of these guys probably with that money.
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: Another guy that I want to highlight before we move
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: on another depth piece. I think this is a guy
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: who if you sign him, he's absolutely on your major
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: league team, is.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: Ramon your ISAs.
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: I love what he provides defensively, I think you're essentially
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: adding another Triolo, maybe someone who's a more veteran version
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: of a.
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: Little bit more been around a little bit more though, Yeah.
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: Been around a little bit more, played some more meaningful baseball,
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: and I like the versus utility there. I think that
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: he could be a good placeholder. It's certain infield positions
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: if you want, if you want to have a guy
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: waiting there until Carr Griffin gets caught up. I know
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: he's primarily a third baseman, but if you if you're
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: not confident in Jared Triolo being your everyday third basement,
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: or if you acquire a marquee third base prospects, say
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: they get a Mayo example for example, in this uh
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: in this hypothetical Mitch Keller trade with the Orioles that
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: we've discussed in prior shows. If you don't want to
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: just commit third base to this newcomer, or even if
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: they signed someone from Japan or whoever else, if they
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: have a young guy that they bring in to be
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: the future at third base, I think a guy like
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: your Eya is signing him to kind of be that
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: placeholder doesn't hurt the team.
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: Again, Yeah, it's a it's a veteran, it's I think
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: it's it's something.
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: It's a guy that good teams have, like Miguel Rojas
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: on the Dodgers, someone like that, who you don't sign
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: him to be your everyday player.
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: But having those guys on the bench.
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: No knowing that, you know what, one of your infielders
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: is gonna pull a hammy at some point this year.
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: Someone is gonna get hit by a pitch on the
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: hand and have the miss six weeks. Someone is gonna
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: go through a slump, someone's gonna go on the paternity list,
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: or you know, there's gonna stuff's gonna happen throughout.
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: One hundred and sixty two game seasons.
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: And when you have more of these guys who are
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: everyday players, and some of them everyday players on playoff
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: teams last year, I think that that just it makes
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: your floor a lot lower. And we saw last year
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: that the floor can get pretty low when you don't
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: spend on contracts like this. Yes, so all right, we're
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: gonna take another quick break, and then once we get back,
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: we're gonna review the first big trade of the Major
• 22:44
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  Speaker 2: You can't beat that, all right, So, guys, first big
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: trade of the twenty twenty five off season took place
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: last week. Grayson Rodriguez, arguably the best starter on the
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: Oriel staff, gets traded away to the Angels for Taylor Ward,
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: a slugger that we talked about already on this show.
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: A guy in the final year of his contract, someone
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: who's gonna make around probably twelve million is at his
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: production around there twelve to fourteen in arbitration. An interesting
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: move because I mean, Rodriguez is pre arb right, is
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: he pre arbor and he's still on his rookie deal
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: for sure, had a really really strong year. I thought
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: this year obviously has the arm history or the issues
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: of injuries. The Baltimore needs pitching and they just traded
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: for another bat. I guess we'll start by asking you this, Josh,
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: I mean, what do you think of this move in general?
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: To be honest.
• 24:59
  Speaker 5: I I mean, all trades can make you raise an
• 25:02
  Speaker 5: eyebrow or say it makes sense whatever, but uh not
• 25:05
  Speaker 5: that I covered the Angel with the Riders, but I
• 25:06
  Speaker 5: didn't see this one, especially for you know, Ward being
• 25:08
  Speaker 5: last year's contract and a guy like Grayson Rodriguez, as
• 25:12
  Speaker 5: you said, still under arbitration, but also you know, an
• 25:14
  Speaker 5: electric arm. Nothing taken away from Taylor Ward, but you know,
• 25:18
  Speaker 5: do they plan does Baltimore plan to keep Taylor past that?
• 25:22
  Speaker 5: But that obviously usually those deals are work out once
• 25:25
  Speaker 5: is traded, you know, unless something was to come out.
• 25:27
  Speaker 5: But you know that's also something that Baltimore probably saw,
• 25:31
  Speaker 5: where we want to upgrade our outfit.
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: We we're going for.
• 25:34
  Speaker 5: You know, they were just in the playoffs, not this
• 25:36
  Speaker 5: past year, but last year, and I'm sure they were
• 25:39
  Speaker 5: trying to find ways to retoot their team to get
• 25:41
  Speaker 5: back to where it was, and you know, they probably
• 25:44
  Speaker 5: feel confident that they could you know, upgrade their outfield
• 25:47
  Speaker 5: while letting go of you know, I w't won't to
• 25:49
  Speaker 5: say letting go of you know, Grayson Rodriguez because you know,
• 25:52
  Speaker 5: he's got some electric stuff. Had a great year, but
• 25:56
  Speaker 5: as you said, arm issues, maybe there's something there that
• 25:58
  Speaker 5: Baltimore was like, you know, maybe we don't want to
• 26:01
  Speaker 5: deal with the what if, or you know, maybe there's
• 26:03
  Speaker 5: something a little bit more concerning. But you know, for Pittsburgh,
• 26:07
  Speaker 5: you know, hey, Baltimore, y'all just lost Grayson or you know,
• 26:10
  Speaker 5: you trade a picture, you need an arm, we need
• 26:12
  Speaker 5: a bad It could line up. I'm sure there's some
• 26:15
  Speaker 5: other teams are gonna be calling too, but definitely makes
• 26:18
  Speaker 5: you look a little bit more to say Baltimore and
• 26:21
  Speaker 5: Pittsburgh could be lining up because you I would like
• 26:23
  Speaker 5: to think that Baltimore be looking to replace or you know,
• 26:26
  Speaker 5: fill in the spot for Grayson.
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I believe I read something on the Athletic I
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: think it was I think it was Jim Bowden, a
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: frequent contributor to this very network, who said the Angels
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: didn't look into the the arm injury history.
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: I don't think he before making this.
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: I don't think he had like a medical clearance before
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: the trade or anything like that. I don't know. I
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: saw something along that those lines.
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and Mark, you know what, why don't you look
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: that up real quick?
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: While I while I, uh, well, I'm pretty sure when.
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: You get traded, you know, they're talking. Hey, let's real,
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: we get off with his history.
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: What what treatment does get you know that we are
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: talking about We are talking about the Angels right now,
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: and that's the Angels have been trying to put together
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: a pitching staff for Josh. I mean since you were playing, really,
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's been.
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: A lot of time, long ago. Yeah, so you're playing
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: here in Pittsburgh.
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: There you go.
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: I I just got it. Yeah, I on foul Territory.
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: They were interviewing Grayson Rodriguez and he said he wasn't
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: required to get a physical before being traded to the Angels.
• 27:41
  Speaker 5: Is that I don't think that's necessary. There's nothing because
• 27:45
  Speaker 5: I've been traded. I got traded from Washington to Oakland
• 27:48
  Speaker 5: in twenty one and I remember walking in when I
• 27:53
  Speaker 5: was traded. You know, they just hey, you got traded
• 27:55
  Speaker 5: to Oakland. But I know amongst the teams there's some
• 27:58
  Speaker 5: medical things that they send.
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: To each other.
• 28:00
  Speaker 5: I didn't necessarily, you know obviously, when I got to Oakland,
• 28:03
  Speaker 5: A put you through Okay, let's check your file that
• 28:05
  Speaker 5: they said, Okay, how's this feel?
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: How's is that good?
• 28:08
  Speaker 5: But I mean, but that's always one of the things
• 28:12
  Speaker 5: that can hold up a trade or make a trade
• 28:14
  Speaker 5: and not go through now so here that they didn't
• 28:16
  Speaker 5: even want to.
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: Look at him.
• 28:17
  Speaker 5: That's I mean, I don't want to say it, but
• 28:20
  Speaker 5: that sounds like desperation.
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: So yeah, physicals aren't required for MB trades, but I
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: mean you do have to send the medical paperwork to
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: the other team, like the medical records, so they at
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: least got that. But yeah, it given his concern especially
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: with like the prinsipers and his elbow and everything that
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: kind of led to all the other issues, I'd want
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: to check that out if I'm the Angels and giving
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: up ward for him, I mean, but I mean, and
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: just going into the Grayson Rodriguez real quick. He was
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: the second best pitching prospect in twenty twenty three, behind
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: obviously Paul Skeens. So this guy has a lot of talent,
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: was obviously has been hampered by injuries a lot. But
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: it's a crazy trade that it just I can't believe what.
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: I did not think the starting pitcher market was going
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: to be like that. Pretty shocking trade from the Orioles.
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: I think that was kind of the general reaction across
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: the league. That's hows Grease and Rodriguez has to be hurt,
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: because otherwise this does not make sense.
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: Makes sense?
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: Well, I have three takeaways from this steal, all of
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: them kind of pertaining the Pirates. One, I think this
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: trade opens up a need for pitching in Baltimore, right,
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: I mean they they already were going to have to
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: add pitching this offseason, and now they have an even
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: greater need for that. And uh, I mean they did
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: so by taking on salary, which is interesting. I mean
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: like they take they take on more salary with Ward contract,
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: like for trading away a preord pitcher, So like they're
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: adding to their payroll and still haven't really addressed their
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: big their big team needs, which maybe means they're looking
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: for affordable pitching and.
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: I know a team that has a lot of that.
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: That's my first big takeaway.
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: My second big takeaway is, man, people are willing to
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: pay something for young pitching, you know, like I don't,
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: I don't know, like Rodriguez to me, like that's that's
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: a valuable asset. But with the arm injury history like
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: Taylor Ward, I don't, I don't know who overpaid here, right,
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: Like I could make an argument for both sides, but
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: I think this is a very unique intro to like
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: how this market's gonna be set. And I think the
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: third thing is you see how desperate the Angels are
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: to get more young pitching, so maybe they could be
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: a potential trade partner as well for the Pirates. And
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: and I guess I'll open up the Florida to ask
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: this question, when you look at this trade, do you
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: think that it's gonna Do you think this trade shows
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: that a veteran pitcher like Keller is going to be
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: more valuable? Or maybe the Pirates should pivot and start
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: looking to trade some of their younger arms who similar
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: to Rodriguez. I mean, some of these guys haven't had
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: the same level of major league success, but are high
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: rated pitching prospects with a history of arm history. If
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: you could get something like this for those guys, you
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: consider doing that and keeping Mitch Keller.
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: Is that at me or Mark go ahead?
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: It's all of our show ye.
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: Good question.
• 31:31
  Speaker 5: But my question with that is pitching is something that
• 31:37
  Speaker 5: the Pirates have a lot of, so holding onto that
• 31:40
  Speaker 5: doesn't really make your team better if you're trying to
• 31:42
  Speaker 5: better the offense. So that would be my only rebuttal
• 31:46
  Speaker 5: to that because I mean, I think it makes Mitch
• 31:49
  Speaker 5: that much more valuable because one, you don't have the
• 31:52
  Speaker 5: question of juries, but you also know what you're getting
• 31:53
  Speaker 5: a consistent guy that's going to go out there every
• 31:55
  Speaker 5: fifth day, eat innings and take the ball. So I
• 31:59
  Speaker 5: think it makes it a little tricky because, as I said,
• 32:03
  Speaker 5: I didn't want to say it sounded like desperation, but
• 32:06
  Speaker 5: if you're taking that on, there's a lot of risk
• 32:08
  Speaker 5: with it, but the reward can be great and that's
• 32:11
  Speaker 5: something that they're probably willing to, you know, deal with.
• 32:14
  Speaker 5: And I guess with Baltimore they have a lot of
• 32:17
  Speaker 5: prospects if they want to go get another picture.
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: I guess they figure they you.
• 32:20
  Speaker 5: Know, can not necessarily replace Grayson Rodriguez. But you know,
• 32:25
  Speaker 5: one picture doesn't make its team. You know, you're only
• 32:27
  Speaker 5: as good as your whole team, your staff, everything. So
• 32:30
  Speaker 5: you know, maybe it's a situation where they're looking to
• 32:32
  Speaker 5: bring back somebody that's you know a little bit more
• 32:34
  Speaker 5: proven and that they know that they could possibly count on.
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: That's just something that I would say.
• 32:38
  Speaker 5: But for me, I feel like the Pirates with Kellor,
• 32:40
  Speaker 5: it makes them that much more valuable just because you know,
• 32:43
  Speaker 5: what you're getting with them, there's no question mark of health,
• 32:45
  Speaker 5: there's no question mark of consistency.
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, if you can get the same return
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: package for Mitch Keller as say, like a younger guy
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: that's controllable with upside, like Ashcraft and Burrows pair together,
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: I'm giving I'm keeping Mitch undred percent, that would be awesome.
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: I don't necessarily know it without the Pirates giving up
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: like Abobb, a Chandler or like a Seth Hernandez, like
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: those really top tier prospects that might be closer to
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: what Grayson Rodriguez was back in twenty twenty three and
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: closer to the what he is now. But yeah, I mean,
• 33:20
  Speaker 4: if you can send some of the younger guys and
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: keep Mitch Keller, that makes the Pirates a better team,
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: I think. And if you again, it's I really think
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: Mitch Keller is going to bring the biggest return just
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: because he's so so reliable, so consistent, everything you want
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: if you're a contending team. But that's even more reason
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: for the Pirates to keep him.
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: So all right, Well, about to wrap this show up,
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  Speaker 2: but before we do, want to remind everyone hit that
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  Speaker 1: We are on a quest to one thousand subs.
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  Speaker 2: We we're over the four hundred mark now and we're
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  Speaker 2: gonna start. We're gonna start a fun little thing here
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  Speaker 2: on Bucco Territory between now and Christmas. There are five
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  Speaker 2: weeks before Santa comes to town, and we're looking to
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  Speaker 2: give away some good stuff before he arrives. If you
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  Speaker 2: a screenshot of it and comment it under one of
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  Speaker 2: at Myself, Platinum Key or Josh Harrison, show us that
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  Speaker 2: you subscribe, you will be entered in a drawing, and
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  Speaker 2: you will be entered in this drawing that will last
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  Speaker 2: for five weeks. Each week we are going to have
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  Speaker 2: a different prize. I'll start us off with this first prize,
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  Speaker 2: the week one prize, two free tickets to any Pirates
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  Speaker 2: game that is not the home opener or Paul Skins
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  Speaker 2: Bubble ho Day.
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  Speaker 1: Those are the I can't afford that, yes, those two.
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  Speaker 1: But so this week's draw and I think what we'll do.
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  Speaker 2: We'll do the drawing maybe on like every Tuesday, show
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  Speaker 2: leading up to Christmas. So, but we're gonna have different
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  Speaker 2: goodies and giveaway for this subscriber mission. Again, we're trying
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  Speaker 2: right now, So subscribe. And if you subscribe and send
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  Speaker 2: a screenshot to us, tweet it at us, or just find.
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  Speaker 1: A way for us to see it.
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  Speaker 2: The easiest way to do that is on social media
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  Speaker 2: and show us you'll be entered in a drawing.
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  Speaker 1: And we will.
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  Speaker 2: We will have a prize drawing every Tuesday show, uh,
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  Speaker 2: moving forward. So that's that's this week's prize. So everyone
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  Speaker 2: do that and subscribing, and if you don't win this week,
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  Speaker 2: you're still around for future weeks and the prizes are
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  Speaker 2: going to get better than Yeah, the prizes are going
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  Speaker 2: to get a lot better than just two free tickets
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  Speaker 2: to a random Pirates game. I can promise you that.
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  Speaker 2: So again, if you don't win in week one, stick around.
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  Speaker 2: We've got good stuff coming.
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  Speaker 1: Sounds good.
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  Speaker 4: Thanks for listening, guys.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, make sure you hit that subscribe button. We're excited
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  Speaker 5: about what's to come. You know, these next couple of weeks,
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  Speaker 5: you know, coming weeks up into Christmas. As they say
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  Speaker 5: we got some cool stuff to giveaway, and just continue
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  Speaker 5: enjoying it as much as we are.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yes, absolutely, he is platinum Key. He is
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  Speaker 1: Josh Harrison. I'm Noah Hyles.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you for tuning in to another episode of Bucco Territory,
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