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Kristen's Raw Chicken Dinner · Nick and Kristen in the Podcast

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  Episode 8 of the Nick and Kristen in the podcast podcast.
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  And no, I don't think we're changing the name.
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  I think, I mean, it's too late. It's too late now.
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  And people complain about so much that they remembered the
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  name and now it sticks. Yeah, it's fine.
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  I would make one suggestion. I don't think you have to tell
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  everybody what episode it is. No, you don't think?
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  I don't think. OK, we're getting to the point
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  now where it's like. I mean it's only 8 episode. 1742
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  it's like all right, just. I don't know, I feel like they
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  do that total their episode and all the podcasts, I guess.
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  Yeah, I don't know. Well, fine.
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  Hi to the Nick and Kristen in the podcast.
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  It's OK, you don't have to say it again.
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  I'm. Good.
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  I feel like people. Need to know what do you got on
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  tap for today, Nick? I feel like you don't need to
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  say that it throw. It's a very unprofessional way
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  to get into a topic. Kristen OK, just start talking.
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  Come up with a conversation. So, yeah, what would you like to
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  talk about today, Nick? So my poor is starting to show.
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  I know now that we've been unemployed for quite a while.
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  I started getting creative again.
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  Like before? Of what?
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  Well. Before, like when you start to
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  get money, you start to start to stop having to do poor people
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  things like eating. It's my, it's showing in my food
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  choices as of now. Because before I was like, oh,
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  we'll just sort of DoorDash and that was my splurge so we could
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  pay an extra fee to get some food in.
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  And now it's come to the point where like I'm now concocting
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  things in the pantry based on what we have left so that I
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  don't have to go shopping, right?
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  And I was amazed at the poor that I that I tapped into.
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  OK. And I I'm going to take this
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  back into my employment years with me because it was so good.
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  It was. So good that I'm like, this is
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  something that I'm going to do every time this situation
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  occurs. So we bought a whole chicken
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  that like the pre made rotisserie chicks you can get
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  and I ate most of it because I that was my lunch slash dinner
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  one day because it was 7 bucks. I was like, I'm just eating the
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  chicken. I didn't make any.
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  I didn't make anything with it. I just ate the chicken and I
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  left like 1 breast left of the chicken.
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  I put that aside and since we leftovers now because that's the
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  first step and not throwing anything away like we would
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  just, you know, give it like I don't know what do you guys?
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  Want I was two years old. Forget it.
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  Yuck. Which feels wasteful and I know.
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  But now I started to eat the leftovers.
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  I have ramen noodles because they had a sale at Safeway.
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  It was like 10 for a dollar. And so I was like, OK, so we
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  bought, I bought 30 of them. And so now I'm tapping into
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  those and I've got so I had a chicken 1 and a chicken breast.
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  I was like, oh, these two are going to go great together.
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  And I went like the extra mile. So I made the chicken ramen and
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  I was like, Oh well, I've got this chicken breast with chicken
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  skin on it and I've got eggs. Oh my God.
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  I know I made, I, I call it the beginning and end ramen.
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  So I get it at the I had the egg boil with the ramen and then I
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  put the, I shredded the chicken halfway through, threw it in so
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  it could boil and get warm and add the chickeny flavor to it.
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  But I peeled the skin off 1st and I threw the skin into the
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  air fryer to fry that and make it super crispy.
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  And then I like poured it all into a bowl, cracked the egg
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  open. So I was eating the chicken, the
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  chicken and the chicken and then I crumbled the skin on that bro.
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  It was so damn good. It was so the chicken skin had
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  so much flavor that it like made it all like pop and come
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  together. And in total that meal was like
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  3 dollars. Yeah.
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  Why am I buying steak anymore? Like why am I?
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  Why did I ever buy salmon? Because I won't eat that.
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  No, you have to eat that. I think that you should try it.
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  You don't like ramen? Like the little, it's just
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  you're talking to somebody that doesn't love chicken.
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  And so when you're like, oh, it's the most chickeny of the
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  chickeny flavored things, it's like, well, none of that appeals
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  to me. You like chicken, you just don't
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  like the raw chicken that your mom made and that one time.
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  Yes, one time I was so. It turns out your mom.
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  Listens to podcast but like mom I.
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  Made raw chicken and scarred your daughter for.
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  Life. There was an instance where I
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  was, I was like, this is raw. It was actually my dad.
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  Oh, OK. Well, that means.
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  So I I was, I was in a play. And then we like, we had
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  rehearsals and I was like, I got to go and my dad was like, you
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  have to eat something before you go.
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  And he served me this chicken that he had just grilled.
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  Yeah. And half of it was raw.
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  Like I cut into it and I was like, it's raw.
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  And he goes, it's fine. Eat it.
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  Did you hear? Because the outside was burned,
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  he's like, it's clearly done. Because I think what he did is
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  take like a frozen piece of chicken or something.
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  Like he's like, clearly it's done.
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  It's like practically black on the outside.
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  Like it's charred. And I was like, but it's raw
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  inside. And I was like, how much do I
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  have to eat before I can go? And he was like half of it or
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  something. We have the same conversation
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  with Lily. Yeah.
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  And so I was just like, I ate as much as I could.
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  That was cooked. And I remember being like, I
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  hate chicken. It's just so gross to mean it
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  now. Well, even my because I make
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  your chicken all the time. It's just like, I don't love the
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  flavor. I love the flavor of chicken
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  when it's with a soy sauce and it's rice, Yeah, And there's
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  green onion in it and stuff like the flavors combine.
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  But what you're talking about is an explosion of chicken flavor,
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  and that doesn't sound like something I would like.
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  But it's got Yeah, OK, that makes sense.
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  And you don't eat the skin off your chicken.
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  I get this totally fine. Can I make you a beef 1?
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  I don't know if I have a beef. Leftover well, and I don't like
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  ramen. OK, so that's the thing, yeah.
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  We just have different tastes. I know it's just hard like.
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  Italian food. You could take it or leave it.
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  I like Italian. Yeah, but I don't like just, I
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  don't like just regular pasta. Like you just like spaghetti.
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  Yeah, like that's not Italian for.
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  Them. Well, that's.
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  True. Yeah.
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  I like fettuccine Alfredo and I like the pasta with like those
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  white sauces and like, well, that's Alfredo and like
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  meatballs and sausage. I know, and I would like all of
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  those things too if we had them, but when I don't, it's just
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  pasta. It's true.
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  Yeah. So a lot of people want an
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  update on Lily. OK.
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  It's been a while. Like, because they're like, oh,
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  you used to talk about Lily all the time.
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  So it is spring break for Lily happening right now.
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  So we're spending a lot of Lily time.
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  Yeah, and just I guess let's give a quick rundown on what
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  Lilies been going through. If you want the update, we're
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  into magic right now. Yes, very into magic playing
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  cards like magic tricks. I got a deck of cards and she
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  discovered it and I was like let me show you a magic trick
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  because I know like 2 magic tricks and so I showed her.
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  She's like. I know.
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  And so now I've been teaching her magic tricks, and we've
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  looked up magic tricks and things like that.
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  I got her own deck of cards, and so we're doing Magic.
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  It's very cute. I I love.
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  I like that because she's into it.
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  And they're easy, simple tricks. Yeah.
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  And they're exciting, like. And so she does them on me
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  because I don't know anything about magic.
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  And so, like, I yeah, you know, she's very proud of herself.
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  She's having school drama, a lot of friend socialization issues.
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  And they're at the age of this, yeah.
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  There's a girl at school that's not particularly nice to her,
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  yet somehow she really likes her, and so she wants to always
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  play with her. But whenever the two of them get
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  together, they butt heads, probably because they're really
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  alike. And so there was an incident at
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  school where this group of girls were being mean to each other.
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  And Lily was part of that group. And we asked her involvement and
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  she said that she yelled at a friend and that she was trying
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  to prevent a friend from playing a game because each of them were
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  cutting in front of each other. So she wasn't the only one, but
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  like, 11 friend pretended to kick another friend that wasn't
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  Lily. There was tongue stuck out.
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  There was names called. Lily says she wasn't a part of
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  that, but she did own up to yelling and trying to prevent a
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  friend from playing. Yeah.
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  And she's. Been pretty honest but I mean
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  she's. Been pretty honest, but you
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  know, but her teacher has separated the girls and said
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  that they're no longer allowed to play together for recess,
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  that they kind of need to take a break from each other.
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  And that's been really hard to to navigate as a parent.
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  Yeah, well, what's making it like other than we like we have
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  no say and we can't really do anything about it.
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  Like she's and that's what it was like when we were in school
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  too. Like we had to figure out this
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  whole life thing at school and that's what she's there for.
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  And so we can't really navigate it or help her navigate it
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  because she needs to figure it out on her own.
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  But what's been difficult? For what's been difficult for me
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  is, is providing the empathy for the situation because now as a
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  grown up and having gone through this, I kind of go, well, just
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  don't play with her anymore. Yeah, like, she's obviously
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  like, not a great friend to you. She's obviously saying mean
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  things to you. Why do you even like her?
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  And I have to check all of that because she's doing this for the
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  first time. So I have to say, like, what's a
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  way that you guys can play together where you feel like
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  happy playing with her? Or what's a way that can
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  minimize the discomfort? Or how much discomfort are you
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  willing to take before you realize that maybe we shouldn't
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  be playing with her, kind of facilitating those conversations
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  as opposed to being like, well, I'm never going to let her over
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  to our house before, You know, it's like, I don't want to just
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  take away friendships where I would totally do that in my life
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  right now. Like, oh, you've.
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  Learned to ask to me I'm never going to hang out with you again
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  that's. You've got to learn how to
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  navigate. He's got to figure it out.
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  Asses because yeah, like they're out there everywhere, you're
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  going to run into them. You can't just walk away.
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  So you've got to learn how to deal with it.
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  So yeah, it is tough to not just step in and solve the problem
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  so. Well, you're not going to solve
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  the problem exactly. You have to solve it.
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  But to minimize that pain of like, well, just don't play with
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  them anymore. Yeah, like, for her, that's not
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  an option. And I have to keep remembering
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  that that's not an option until she comes up with it.
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  Yeah, I'm leading. Her to that decision is very
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  difficult. But this brings up another thing
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  where Kristen therapizes me. So you're a therapist, marriage
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  and family therapist, I know. And so I thought we should start
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  using that in these segments. And I wanted to bring something
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  to you. And I feel like you're going to
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  switch into therapy mode when I bring it up.
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  I briefly mentioned it, but we'll talk about it more here.
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  So I was, I'm filling in for a bowling league at Kingpins in
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  Portland. And this particular team, we
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  were bowling, it was all dudes, all Bros, like ball, like
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  Ballers and bowlers and Bros like they all, they're like,
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  yeah, high 5, big high fives, like they work out big energy,
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  big, big bro energy. And there was like I was
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  noticing there that there was ass slapping and and like
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  hugging and camaraderie, a lot of physical touching and like
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  not in like an interested way. Like they weren't doing it
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  because they were it wasn't sexual.
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  It wasn't. That's the.
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  It was. It wasn't sexual.
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  It was, it was very much like on a football field or like
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  sportsman like and I don't first of all, I don't think of bowling
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  like that as like that. Kind of sport.
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  I do think of it as a sport, but I don't think of it as that kind
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  of sport. Very solo sport.
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  So the, IT was a little weird, like I immediate was like, oh
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  God, I shut down immediately. And then there was one guy who's
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  a good bowler, super nice, and he just kept getting close to
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  people. And I, I don't like people
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  getting close. And so he would like grab him
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  like lean over like this and like whisper in the ear like,
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  man, you're doing such a good job.
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  Like you just keep that up. And like, it was just that I was
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  just like, like, I immediately started shutting down and just
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  feel like that is like super uncomfortable for me.
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  And so I thought I'd bring it to the therapy therapist in you and
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  be like, why do you think that I had that?
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  Is it? Is it because it's odd or is it
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  because I have a problem with male affection?
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  Well, I would imagine. Well, I don't.
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  I don't. It's not even what I would
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  imagine. What do you what do you think it
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  is? Well, I don't know.
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  It's just like it. What about the physicality of of
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  another man is uncomfortable to you?
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  I just won't. They're just uncomfortably close
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  as a like, it doesn't matter. Male or female, like anybody.
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  I don't like people uncomfortably close to me.
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  Why? And I don't know.
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  I don't know what it is. You don't.
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  Have to have. A reason?
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  No, I'm just curious if. There is one.
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  My bubble is big. I've got a pretty big bubble and
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  I don't, I don't know, I feels invasive.
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  I'm, I think it may be because I'm like an introvert, but yeah,
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  I just have a thing about people.
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  Like it makes me super uncomfortable immediately.
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  Probably something that happened to me when I was a kid, but like
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  as of now, it's just makes me uncomfortable.
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  And so to see that maybe that triggers the uncomfortableness.
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  Is there a part of you that wishes you were comfortable with
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  it? But at some level, I think so.
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  I think that they're like, because I like the bromanship of
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  it. Like I like the because I don't
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  have any friends. So I like the like, yeah, like I
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  don't, I could do without the ass slapping and the hugging and
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  stuff like that. I think it was just maybe the
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  camaraderie that they had that I don't have with anybody.
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  If somebody were to come up to you and give you a little tap on
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  the the tushy or whisper you're doing a great job into your ear,
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  how would you handle that situation?
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  Well, I'd shut down. I wouldn't say anything.
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  I'm like, thanks man. Yeah, but would you not vocalize
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  that this is making you uncomfortable, you would
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  continue to suffer through it? Yeah, guys, don't do.
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  And why do you feel like you have to put your comfortableness
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  into a box so that you don't express it to others?
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  Like why do you have to shut down instead of using your words
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  to say hey I don't love that. Well, I guess I've never it
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  would be more. It's not that I'm not, I don't
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  know. I guess like I don't feel like
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  it's necessary for me to say something.
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  I guess because it's not, it's not.
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  He didn't mean any harm by it. No, it doesn't matter.
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  But why can't you express your boundary like this is a little.
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  Close. If he kept doing it, that might
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  be different. Like if he was just like every
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  time, every time I bent over, he was like, I think I had a
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  venture like, all right, bro. That would be a little.
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  Weird, Yeah. Open shot.
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  Like, I'm all right, let's calm that down.
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  But like a like a a default, like a little slap on the butt.
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  I'm like, all right, that was weird.
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  And then. But, yeah.
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  And then I'd be fine with that. I wouldn't have to say anything.
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  But yeah, it would only be if it was a continued problem, I
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  guess, because he didn't know what makes me uncomfortable.
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  It's a very common thing for people.
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  And so I would just be like, well, that's a common thing that
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  most people enjoy. I'll let this.
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  One slide, I know, but that's harassment, right?
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  Like you understand, you just justified harassment.
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  That's what women go through daily in the office building
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  where it's like, oh, I'm sure he didn't mean that in a sexual
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  way. And I'm not going to say
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  anything about that because. I don't.
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  I'm sure that's just how that person is, but it makes me
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  uncomfortable. And if it's going to affect your
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  bowling performance, like, I wonder how uncomfortable you
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  have to get before you'll say something.
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  Well, I wonder. Well, thinking about that, like
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  if a girl did it, would it be weirder?
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  I think that would probably make me.
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  I would probably say something if a if a girl was doing it, I
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  guess, and and cuz then it would feel like it was a sexual thing,
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  whereas like if a guy did it, it feels like very bro sports mini
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  OK, and I mean cuz we're that's what they do in like baseball
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  and football. Like I never did any of that,
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  but that's what guys do. But if a girl did it, I wouldn't
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  feel like there was like a sport thing.
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  So how would you express that boundary then?
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  I have no idea. There's no way you would.
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  I would. I would just, you would.
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  I would just avoid being around here when I bowled.
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  Yeah, you would just find a new. I would just face her front.
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  I'd just face her this way. Just walk like I'm like, you're
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  not going to tap me in the crotch.
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  So like. Yeah, I mean, there's lots to
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  explore there. There's a lot to talk about why
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  you're so hesitant for any kind of affection and and especially
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  attention from men. Yeah.
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  We won't get into all of that today, but I'm thank you for
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  opening up a little bit. Thank you for my therapy
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  session. This has been Kristen therapizes
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  me. You can't really do anything.
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  Ask, well, you ask them. Well, I mean, that's basically
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  what you do. That's all I do.
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  You ask the right questions and now I have to question
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  everything. So thank you for listening to
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  the podcast and we'll catch you tomorrow.