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- 0:00Speaker 1: Welcome to the reading of the Washington Post for Tuesday,
- 0:04July first, twenty twenty five. As a reminder, Radio I
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- 0:12or have other disabilities that make it difficult to read
- 0:14printed material. Your reader for to day is Cindy Fraser.
- 0:19To day's front page headlines from the Washington Post are
- 0:23Doge holds keys to sensitive data that could benefit Musk competitors.
- 0:29See danger of exposing trade secrets, contract details and more. Next,
- 0:35Senates slugs through tax bill attempt to win over go
- 0:39P holdouts. Passage not guaranteed given thin majority. Our next
- 0:45headline inside the largest U S health care fraud bust
- 0:50ten point six billion dollar global scam swamped Medicare with
- 0:54a flood of phony claims. The next headline retirements muddle
- 1:00effort to keep GOP majority. Next fight over statue Royalstown
- 1:06that tried to heal divides what began as effort to
- 1:10promote racial unity energize Confederate supporters in North Carolina instead,
- 1:17And the final headline from today's front page, Republicans add
- 1:21three trillion dollars in debt, but don't count it. Now,
- 1:26let's turn to our first item entitled Doge holds keys
- 1:29to sensitive data that could benefit Musk competitors see danger
- 1:34of exposing trade secrets, contract details and more. But Desmond Butler,
- 1:39Jonathan O'Connell, Hannah Adamson, and Aaron Gregg. For months, Elon
- 1:45Musk's US DOGE service plumbed the federal government's information systems,
- 1:50scouring arcane internal records that the billionaires said were guiding
- 1:54his hunt for waste. Now the Musk has stepped away
- 1:58from his government rule, some of that data could be
- 2:01valuable in another way, giving the world's richest man a
- 2:05competitive advantage over his rivals in the private sector. A
- 2:09Washington Post examination found that in at least seven major
- 2:13departments or agencies, DOES secured the power to review records
- 2:18that contained competitors trade secrets, non public details about government contracts,
- 2:24and sensitive regulatory actions or other information. The Post found
- 2:29no evidence that doche has viewed or misused government information
- 2:33to benefit Musk's business empire, which spans industries including artificial intelligence,
- 2:38space exploration, and medical devices. But some competitors are alarmed
- 2:44about the possible exposure of their proprietary information or other
- 2:48private data. So much of The data that we submit
- 2:51to the government is competitively sensitive, said one executive from
- 2:55a firm that competes with Musk's aerospace company SpaceX do
- 3:00that we assume it's protected, and now it feels that
- 3:04we are vulnerable. The company has held internal high level
- 3:08meetings to discuss doge's access to federal contracting data, but
- 3:12has not made those concerns public for fear that its
- 3:16government contracts could be targeted for cancelation, said the executive, who,
- 3:21like others interviewed for this article, spoke on the condition
- 3:24of anonymity for fear of retribution. The post examination sheds
- 3:28light on the scale of Musk's overlapping interests during his
- 3:32more than four months leading DOGE. It also underscores musk
- 3:36unprecedented view into the inner workings of a federal bureaucracy
- 3:40that has both aided his rise as a businessman and
- 3:44served as a check on his ambition. When President Donald
- 3:48Trump issued an executive order on his first day in
- 3:51office to establish DOGE, which stands for Department of Government Efficiency,
- 3:56he called for federal officials to provide the new unit
- 3:59with access to all unclassified agency records, software systems, and
- 4:04it systems. He also ordered DOGE to adhere to rigorous
- 4:08data protection standards. Nearly one hundred thirty days later, after
- 4:12a contentious effort to slash government spending, most said he
- 4:17was stepping away from his government position to refocus on
- 4:20his businesses. After his departure, Musk feuded with Trump this
- 4:25month over the cost of a proposed legislative package backed
- 4:28by the President, a rupture that threatened to curtail Musk's
- 4:32influence within the federal government. His level of potential future
- 4:36involvement remains unclear. Some DOGE staffers has since left, while
- 4:42others have taken permanent jobs at federal agencies. White House officials, meanwhile,
- 4:47have insisted doge's work will continue regardless. The information the
- 4:53unit was able to view will remain valuable, experts said,
- 4:56because it has the potential to help Musk's firms exs,
- 5:00span into new industries with additional government contracts, or identify
- 5:04employees who reported unsafe working conditions to federal investigators. The
- 5:09Post reviewed court documents and interviewed dozens of current and
- 5:13former US government officials to determine which records doeje ades
- 5:17were able to examine. While Musk led the unit. Reporters
- 5:21also spoke with experts and business competitors about how that information,
- 5:26if improperly shared with Musk's companies, could give them a
- 5:30competitive advantage. DOEJE ads, for example, were given near blanket
- 5:35access to records at the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau. Court
- 5:39record show the agency holds proprietary information about algorithms used
- 5:44by payment apps, similar to the ones that Musk has
- 5:47said he wants to incorporate into a social media platform.
- 5:51X NASA employees told the Post that DOEJE aides were
- 5:55able to review internal assessments of thousands of contracts in
- 6:00luoting those awarded to rivals of Musk's SpaceX rocket company,
- 6:03which has already won billions of dollars of government work
- 6:07and is competing for more. Among SpaceX's competitors is Blue Origin,
- 6:13a company owned by Jeff Bezos, who also owns a
- 6:16Washington Post. Blue Origin and its executives did not respond
- 6:20to requests for comment, and Labor Department employees set in
- 6:24court filings that doge aids were allowed to examine any
- 6:28record at the agency, which holds files detailing dozens of
- 6:32sensitive workplace investigations into Tesla and other musk companies, as
- 6:37well as their competitors. Musk and his companies, including SpaceX, Xai,
- 6:44and Tesla, did not respond to requests for comment. We're
- 6:48going to follow all the appropriate ethics and laws attributed
- 6:52to handling federal government and citizens data, White House spokesman
- 6:56Harrison Field said in response to The Post's findings. That
- 7:00is a priority of this administration, and that's exactly what
- 7:03we're going to do. Musk has said that analyzing government
- 7:07data sets was an important part of doges's core mission
- 7:11to find and root out wasteful spending. In an interview
- 7:15with Fox News in March, he said his team was
- 7:18reconciling all of the government databases to eliminate the waste
- 7:22in fraud. He added, it's frankly painful homework, but it
- 7:26has to be done and will greatly improve the efficiency
- 7:29of the government systems. To carry out Dog's work, Musk
- 7:33relied in part on people with ties to his business empire.
- 7:37At least twenty Doge aides previously worked at his companies.
- 7:41The Post fan Musk himself retained his roles at Tesla,
- 7:45SpaceX and other firms, and led Doge as a quote
- 7:49special government employee, a designation that carries less restrictive ethical
- 7:54rules than regular government jobs, but still prohibits misusing the
- 7:59position for financial gain. In February, as polls showed voters
- 8:04souring on Musk, Trump told reporters We're not going to
- 8:08let him do anything where there's a conflict of interest.
- 8:12A raft of ongoing lawsuits by employee unions, watchdog groups,
- 8:16and others have challenged doge's authority, including its right to
- 8:20view government records. Lawyers for the Trump administration have said
- 8:25in court filings that DOEGE staffers received training for handling
- 8:29such data and had agreed to do so legally and ethically.
- 8:34Federal regulations prohibit current government employees, including DOZE aides, from
- 8:39disclosing non public information to advance a person's private interests,
- 8:44but even Trump's staunchest allies have raised concerns about giving
- 8:48DOGE broad access. I think we have to have a
- 8:52letter of certification that not one data set or piece
- 8:56of data of the United States government or citizens of
- 8:59this country are held by anybody, or any copies held
- 9:04except for the Trump administration and the US government. Stephen K. Bannon,
- 9:08a top White House adviser during Trump's first administration said
- 9:12at a conference in April, Bannon, who has publicly clashed
- 9:16with Musk, called for investigations in the Musk's immigration status
- 9:21this month after the billionaires split with Trump in April,
- 9:26when the interviewer said Bannon seemed not to trust Musk
- 9:29with government data, Bannon replied, trust but verify. Expanding into
- 9:35new industries, Musk has long said he intends to turn X,
- 9:40his social media platform, into an everything app that provides
- 9:44banking and payment capabilities. He has championed the idea of
- 9:49X being an American version of the Chinese app we Chat,
- 9:52which has more than one point three billion active users.
- 9:56I think the fundamental thing that's missing that would be
- 9:59in incredibly useful is a single application that encompasses everything,
- 10:04Musk told ASK employees in twenty twenty three, a year
- 10:08after taking over the company. According to a transcript obtained
- 10:11by The Verge, I actually mean someone's entire financial life.
- 10:16If it involves money, it'll be on our platform, money
- 10:19or securities or whatever. It's not just you know, send
- 10:23twenty bucks to my friend. I'm talking about like you
- 10:26won't need a bank account. In January, the week after
- 10:30Trump was inaugurated, x announced that it would partner with
- 10:33Visa to begin offering peer to peer payments to users,
- 10:37marking the company's foray into the financial services industry. Weeks later,
- 10:42DOGE mounted a hostile takeover of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau,
- 10:47a watchdog agency that regulates the finance sector and in
- 10:51some cases collects its trade secrets. On February seven, must
- 10:56telegraph the fate of the agency in a post on
- 10:59x vfbp rip, he wrote, adding a tombstone emoji. Less
- 11:05than an hour later, his aides began demanding access to
- 11:08the agency's information systems. At five thirty six PM, an
- 11:13agency communications official received the first in a series of
- 11:17calls from two DOGE aids at the White House. According
- 11:20to interviews with that person, who provided detailed notes from
- 11:23the call, the DOGE aides asked for passwords and full
- 11:27administrative control of the CFBP website and social media accounts.
- 11:32The person said that night, Trump's new pick to temporarily
- 11:36run the CFBP Russell vote issued in order giving DOGE
- 11:41aids the authority to view all unclassified CFBP data. According
- 11:46to internal agency emails obtained by the post established by Congress.
- 11:51In response, to the two thousand eight financial crisis. The
- 11:54CFBP is supposed to enforce federal consumer protection laws. The
- 11:59bureau collects non public information from the companies it regulates
- 12:03and from consumers who file complaints. It is only one
- 12:07of several agencies housing data that could be used to
- 12:11vet potential customers for financial services. Experts and employees said
- 12:16DOT has had access to such data about millions of
- 12:20American consumers at the Treasury Department, Social Security Administration, and
- 12:25Education Department, the Post has previously reported. A Treasury spokeswoman
- 12:31said that all its employees undergo training and ethics guidance,
- 12:35adding that non public information may not be disseminated and
- 12:40that doing so for personal use could be punished under
- 12:43the law. A Social Security official said in a statement
- 12:48that the agency is solely focused on improving technology and
- 12:52delivering on President Trump's executive order to eliminate information silos
- 12:56and streamlined data collection across all agencies to increase government
- 13:01efficiency and save hard earned taxpayer dollars. The Education Department
- 13:07and c FBP did not respond to requests for comment.
- 13:11The Trump administration has acknowledged in court that two DOGE
- 13:15aids had credentials that allowed them to review the c
- 13:18fbp's most sensitive records or grant that power to others.
- 13:23Administration lawyers noted, however, the DOGE aids assigned to the
- 13:27agency had certified in written agreements that they would abide
- 13:31by all federal security, confidentiality, and ethics laws. No single
- 13:37person had ever been granted such broad access to the
- 13:40bureau's data systems, according to a declaration from Ery Meyer,
- 13:44the c fbp's former chief technologists later filed in court
- 13:49as part of a lawsuit brought by labor unions and
- 13:52efficacy groups seeking to limit Doge's ability to review government records.
- 13:57In interviews, Meyer and other staff that near complete access
- 14:02god Teer must could never have gotten god Teer access
- 14:06to this kind of information as a private citizen. Meyer
- 14:10told The Post this kind of data access was unprecedented
- 14:14in government because there were protections in place until now
- 14:18to prevent it. Some of the agency's information would be
- 14:23valuable to private companies looking to expand their footprint within
- 14:26the financial services industry. Current and former CFBP employees and
- 14:31experts said in recent years, the CFBP requested and received
- 14:36data from major tech firms that have built payment apps
- 14:39such as zell, cash App, and PayPal. According to interviews
- 14:43with current and former CFBP staff, that information includes business strategies,
- 14:49internal assessments of products, development, proprietary algorithms, AI models, and
- 14:55the company's analyzes of their competitors. In many cases, the
- 14:59business resisted providing data to the CFBP, a arguing that
- 15:04it would be devastating if leaked. The CFBP assured the
- 15:08companies that the data would be protected, according to two
- 15:12officials familiar with the talks. The CFBP employees who spoke
- 15:17with a Post said that they had not seen any
- 15:20indication that Doese viewed commercially valuable data or that such
- 15:24information was shared with Musk or any of his companies,
- 15:28but the sensitive nature of the information is a source
- 15:31of anxiety for payment processors competing with x now, a
- 15:35subsidiary of Musk's XAI. A lobbyist who represents electronic payment
- 15:41companies described a variety of data held by the CFBP
- 15:45that could harm his clients if leaked to a competitor,
- 15:49including pricing, structure costs, and the proprietary information about algorithms.
- 15:55The lobbyist said his clients are unsettled by their uncertainty
- 15:58about how DOGE has had government data and have shared
- 16:02their concerns with members of Congress during routine meetings on
- 16:05other topics. It should be clear that they cannot use
- 16:09that information for competitive purposes, the lobbyist said government contracts.
- 16:16Since the twenty tens, NASA has increasingly turned to the
- 16:20private sector to facilitate space travel, recently pursuing contracts with
- 16:25fourteen American companies, including SpaceX, to help send people back
- 16:29to the Moon. SpaceX has been dominant, winning more than
- 16:33fifteen billion dollars from the agency for its work on
- 16:36space programs, including those aiming to explore Mars. Musk's DOGE
- 16:42team at NASA meanwhile gained insight into all the agency's
- 16:46contracts and grant data. According to interviews with more than
- 16:49a dozen employees and records obtained by the Post, the
- 16:54information compiled for doge's review goes far beyond publicly accessible
- 16:58information about the government contracts. It includes detailed descriptions of
- 17:04the services provided to NASA, as well as employees explanations
- 17:08for why each contract should be kept, cut or downsized,
- 17:13offering an intimate picture of which services NASA values and
- 17:17why NASA is one of at least two agencies that
- 17:21have ongoing contracts with Musk's companies where DOGE had the
- 17:24ability to examine non public contracting data, the Post found.
- 17:29Experts said such information, if obtained by a Musk company,
- 17:34could provide it with a significant edge in winning future
- 17:37government work. DOGE is also authorized to examine non public
- 17:42data about firms bidding for government work at the General
- 17:45Services Administration. According to two employees, DOGE was given access
- 17:51to two databases there holding records related to the award
- 17:54of contracts, permitting the team to see who submitted bids,
- 17:58for how much, and what kinds of negotiations took place.
- 18:03The agency, which administers contracts for technology and other services
- 18:07provided to government agencies, has multiple contracts with a subsidiary
- 18:12of Tesla for solar power generation. Record show. NASA declined
- 18:17to comment and the g SA did not respond to
- 18:20requests for comment. At NASA, Actic administrator Janet Petro sent
- 18:26an e mail to employees on Valentine's Day announcing that
- 18:29DOEGE would be reviewing our contracts to find efficiencies. By
- 18:34early March, three DOGE aids had been given user accounts
- 18:37within NASA's internal systems. Record show Scott Colter, and two
- 18:42former employees of TESLA, Alexander Simon Poor and Riley Sennott.
- 18:47The Doze trio obtained twenty four seven access to NASA's
- 18:51administrated offices and the ability to review internal employee data,
- 18:56including employment and training history record show. Sennat declined to comment.
- 19:01Coulter and Simonport did not respond to requests for comment.
- 19:06About a week later, top administrators began sending emails to
- 19:10NASA staffers who work with contracts or grants outlining a
- 19:14new data request. According to messages obtained by the Post,
- 19:18staff were told to help with a comprehensive contracts and
- 19:22grants review required by Trump's executive order embedded DOE jades
- 19:26at federal agencies. One email directed employees to provide a
- 19:31long list of supplemental information for each of NASA's roughly
- 19:36thirteen thousand contracts and grants. The information to be compiled
- 19:41included the employee's recommendation of whether to keep, eliminate, or
- 19:45shrink the contract or grant, their rationale for the decision, and,
- 19:50in the case of the cancelation, its impact on the
- 19:53agency's mission. The email exhorted employees to be specific please
- 19:59ensure that contract descriptions and justifications contain sufficient detail. The
- 20:04email said, enough detail for a layman to understand critical
- 20:08work being performed under the contract. Staff entered the requested
- 20:12information into a spreadsheet, according to records obtained by the Post,
- 20:17and sent it to the Director's office, where DOGE was installed.
- 20:21For any competitor to have that level of access within
- 20:25government agencies is a huge problem, the executive from the
- 20:29SpaceX competitor said in response to the Post's findings. Nobody
- 20:34has that level of detail. Most active NASA contracts are
- 20:38listed publicly on a federal website, but the details laid
- 20:42out in those documents, including money allocated, vendor name, and
- 20:46a brief description of work performed, fall far short of
- 20:50the information in the spreadsheet, said Christopher Milanchik, a former
- 20:55senior contracting officer for the Defense Department who now helps
- 20:59companies compete for and carry out federal contracts. Useful info
- 21:04about agency needs is extremely valuable the coin of the
- 21:08realm for proposal, sales and business development professionals trying to
- 21:12win government contracts. Milarchik said, so getting your hands on
- 21:17a non public spreadsheet that details every aspect of the
- 21:20agency's contracts creates a tremendous advantage. Larchik said that value
- 21:26will endure for many years, although it will diminish over
- 21:30time as the agency's needs evolve. The information could be
- 21:34useful to Musk's companies in multiple ways, said Jessica Tlipmann,
- 21:39Associate Dean for Government Procurement Law Studies at George Washington
- 21:43University Law School. Learning which contracts the government plans to
- 21:47terminate or shrink before that is announced publicly could tip
- 21:52off companies about what services the government might need in future,
- 21:56giving them extra time to prepare a more competitive bid,
- 21:59to Lipmann said, and the spreadsheet, with its thousands of justifications,
- 22:05paints a detailed portrait of the services NASA officials see
- 22:08as priorities and why any company with that level of
- 22:12insight could tailor a more convincing bid. She said. This
- 22:17information gives an edge, it helps predict upcoming procurements, it
- 22:22details what the agency might need, and gives insight into
- 22:26its inner workings. To Lipmann set, basically, you're looking at
- 22:30the agency's internal thought processes, and not only that, but
- 22:34who's doing the thinking. Democratic lawmakers have sent several letters
- 22:39to Petro asking what access Doge has to proprietary or
- 22:43confidential data at our agency? Citing potential conflicts of interest
- 22:47for Musk, NASA officials decline to answer those questions directly,
- 22:52writing in a response that Doge has identified an individual
- 22:56who will be employed by NASA who will have all
- 22:59necessary actions as to NASA owned or managed resources as
- 23:02required for his duties regulatory actions. On February fourth, two
- 23:09weeks after Trump's inauguration, leaders at the Labor Department informed
- 23:13headquarters employees that Doege would be visiting the agency the
- 23:17next afternoon. On February fifth, the day of Dog's expected arrival, employees, unions,
- 23:24and afficacy groups filed a lawsuit challenging Doge's authority to
- 23:28examine sensitive Department of Labor records. Agency leaders had told
- 23:33employees that when mister Musk and his team visit, they
- 23:36are to do whatever they ask, not to push back,
- 23:39not to ask questions, a union representative said in an
- 23:43affidavit filed as part of the lawsuit. Employees were told
- 23:47to provide access to any DL system they requested access to,
- 23:52and not to worry about any security protocols. Just do it.
- 23:56The department tasked with protecting the rights of employees, job applicants,
- 24:00and retirees. Has more than fifty data systems that contain
- 24:04private information about individuals. Dose attorneys have argued in court
- 24:10that accessing Labor Department data is required to root out
- 24:14waste and abuse, but some data could provide Musk with
- 24:17a window into sensitive government investigations of his companies, including
- 24:22the names of any employees who may have provided information
- 24:26to aid those investigations, said Jordan Baruch, who was a
- 24:29Department's Deputy Assistant Secretary for the Occupational Safety and Health
- 24:33Administration from two thousand nine to twenty seventeen during the
- 24:37Obama administration. OHSHA enforcement data remains protected by law, and
- 24:43the agency continues its inspections to safeguard workers health and safety,
- 24:48regardless of who the employer may be, Labor Department spokesperson
- 24:52Courtney Perella said in a statement to the Post. OHSHA
- 24:56enforces workplace safety and health standards, collects information about workplace injuries,
- 25:01and conducts investigations. It has investigated and penalized SpaceX and
- 25:07Tesla multiple times for safety violations, including an episode last
- 25:12year in which a contract worker at Tesla was electrocuted
- 25:16and killed while inspecting solar panels at the company's Texas factory.
- 25:21Tesla is appealing to penalties related to last year's electrocution.
- 25:26OSHA has issued more than forty penalties to Tesla and
- 25:29its subsidiary since twenty ten, according to the corporate watchdog
- 25:33and research group Good Jobs First, and a half dozen
- 25:36penalties to SpaceX since twenty fourteen. In twenty twenty, a
- 25:41Tesla executive said its injury rate was below the industry average.
- 25:46The identities of workers who may have shared information about
- 25:49allegedly unsafe conditions are in OSHA's data, putting them at
- 25:54risk of being outed. All that information about workers who
- 25:58file complaints details of the investigations are in OSHA's files.
- 26:02Barob said workers who contact OSHA can, and often do,
- 26:08request that their names be kept confidential from the company.
- 26:11Barov said the agency often publicly releases details about injuries
- 26:16it investigates, but does not disclose who provided the information,
- 26:20such as in twenty twenty, when a Tesla employee suffered
- 26:23a broken lower back installing solar panels. You've got people
- 26:28who are afraid of filing complaints for fear of the
- 26:30employer finding out. OSHA is required by law to keep
- 26:34that confidential if the employee requests that it be confidential.
- 26:38Barov said. Those investigations can also involve collecting company documents
- 26:44or taking photographs of job sites, information that sometimes contains
- 26:48business secrets or proprietary information that companies do not otherwise
- 26:53share with outsiders. OSHA regularly collects proprietary material in a database,
- 26:59Barob said, and is required by law to keep it private. Otherwise,
- 27:04he said, businesses wouldn't feel comfortable complying with the agency's
- 27:08inquiries for fear that the information they provide could be
- 27:12used by competitors. Among the companies OSHA has investigated are
- 27:17rivals of mosques in the automobile and aerospace industries. OSHA's
- 27:22database is one of seven Labor Department systems that the
- 27:25employee unions raised as particular concerns in their February lawsuit.
- 27:30Attorneys for DOESE and the government have pointed out in
- 27:33court filings that aids detailed to the Labor Department are
- 27:37required to act in accordance with applicable laws and regulations
- 27:41for data handling. They also said DOSE employees at the
- 27:45agency were required to fill out paperwork before accessing data
- 27:49systems and to acknowledge legal restrictions on the use of
- 27:52sensitive information. As of early April, attorneys for DOZE and
- 27:57the government did not list OSHA's database as one Dozese
- 28:01had access, and it's unclear whether DOZE has done so
- 28:05since then. The judge in the case rejected the union's
- 28:08requests for a temporary restraining order allowing DOGE to continue
- 28:12to review agency data, but lawyers for the unions have
- 28:16argued the risk of the data being breached and shared
- 28:19with Musk or someone else in the private sector is
- 28:22too great. No other business owner on the planet has
- 28:27access to this kind of information on his competitors, they wrote,
- 28:31and for good reason. Daniel Gilbert and Tricia Sodani contributed
- 28:36to this report. Our next item is entitled Senate slogs
- 28:41through tax bill attempt to win over GOP holdouts. Passage
- 28:46not guaranteed given thin majority by Jacob Bogage, Theodoric Meyer
- 28:52and Marianna Sotomayor, Senate Republicans inch toward passing their massive
- 28:57tax and immigration bill Monday, working through the evening to
- 29:01win over the final holdouts as they seek to deliver
- 29:04the first major legislative victory of President Donald Trump's second term.
- 29:09Trump's One Big Beautiful Bill Act would extend tax cuts
- 29:13passed in twenty seventeen, enact campaign promises such as no
- 29:17tax on tips, spend hundreds of billions of dollars on
- 29:21immigration enforcement and defense, and slash spending on social benefit programs.
- 29:27The three point three trillion dollar legislation survived a brief
- 29:31GOP revolt over the weekend to allow the Chamber to
- 29:35move forward with debate on the measure, but its passage
- 29:38remains far from certain. Trump has pressed Congress to pass
- 29:42the bill by July fourth, and White House Press Secretary
- 29:46Carolyn Levitt implored Republicans on Monday to stay tough and
- 29:50unified as a rush to meet the deadline. The White
- 29:54House and the President are adamant that this bill is
- 29:57passed and that this bill makes its way to his death,
- 30:00Levitt told reporters. But with a fifty three to forty
- 30:04seven majority Senate, Republicans can lose only three votes, and
- 30:09two Republicans have already indicated that they will oppose it.
- 30:13Senator Tom Tillis, Republican from North Carolina, took to the
- 30:17Senate floor twice Sunday night to excoriate his party's legislation,
- 30:22saying it would break Trump's promise not to cut Medicaid
- 30:25benefits and would put more than six hundred thousand people
- 30:29in his stay at risk of losing their health insurance.
- 30:33Tillis announced Sunday after Trump threatened him with a primary
- 30:37challenge for voting against starting debate on the bill, that
- 30:40he would not seek reelection next year. Senator Ran Paul,
- 30:45Republican from Kentucky, also voted Saturday against taking up the bill,
- 30:50and he is expected to vote against passage because it
- 30:53would raise a debt limit by five trillion dollars, and
- 30:57Senator Susan Collins, Republican from Maine and Lisa Murkowski, Republican
- 31:02from Alaska have expressed concerns over the bill's Medicaid funding
- 31:06cuts and have not said how they will vote. Vice
- 31:09President j. D. Vance nearly had to cast the tie
- 31:12breaking vote Saturday night to start debate on the bill
- 31:16before Senator Ron Johnson, Republican from Wisconsin, switched his vote,
- 31:21and Republicans will need him to trek to the Capitol
- 31:24if three Republicans vote no. If the bill makes it
- 31:28through the Senate, the House will need to pass it
- 31:30again before sending it to Trump's desk, and many House
- 31:34Republicans are unhappy with the Senate's changes to the measure.
- 31:39About a dozen members of the hard line House Freedom Caucus,
- 31:43almost all of whom voted for the bill last month,
- 31:46are upset that the Senate version would add more to
- 31:49the federal deficit. Other House Republicans have balked at the
- 31:53Senate bill's medicate funding cuts, which are deeper than the
- 31:57House version. They fear the cuts will hurt Medicaid recipients
- 32:01and lead royal hospitals in their districts to clubs or
- 32:05According to House Republicans who spoke on the condition of
- 32:07anonymity to detail private discussions with Republican leadership and their colleagues,
- 32:13moderate Republicans in the House have privately expressed concern that
- 32:18Trump lashed out at Tillet's for voting against starting debate
- 32:21on the bill. Some of them are worried Trump will
- 32:24punish lawmakers with concerns about the bill rather than hearing
- 32:28them out, even if voting for the bill means some
- 32:31of them lose their seats, costing Republicans their thin House majority.
- 32:36Republicans who vote for the bill could also face political risk.
- 32:41Elon Musk, the billionaire and former White House adviser who
- 32:45broke with Trump after criticizing the bill, pledged Monday to
- 32:49try to defeat Republicans who vote for the bill who
- 32:52campaigned on cutting government spending. Those Republicans will lose their
- 32:57primary next year if it is the last thing I
- 32:59do on Earth, Musk wrote on x He also said
- 33:03he would support Representative Thomas Massey, Republican from Kentucky, whom
- 33:08Trump has threatened with a primary for voting against the bill.
- 33:12Democrats have been determined to make the bill's passage through
- 33:15the Senate as painful as possible. Senate Minority Leader Charles E. Schumer,
- 33:21Democrat from New York, demanded that the entire nine hundred
- 33:25forty page legislation be read aloud on the Senate floor,
- 33:29which took nearly sixteen hours. Only after the reading did
- 33:33debate begin in earnest on the Senate floor Sunday afternoon.
- 33:38Democrats offered an onslaught of motions Monday to revise the
- 33:42bill before the final vote, all of which failed, although
- 33:45many of them drew support from one or two Republicans.
- 33:49The idea is to force Republicans to take uncomfortable votes
- 33:53that Democrats can use to hammer them when they run
- 33:56for reelection. Murkowski had voted with Democrats on five of
- 34:00them by early evening, underscoring her concerns with aspects of
- 34:04the legislation. Schumer accused Republicans of negotiating back room deals
- 34:10as a work to secure the votes. We can't get
- 34:13things done the way we're supposed to unless they show
- 34:16us how they're changing the bill, Schumer told reporters Monday.
- 34:20Republicans scoffed at the accusation. A lot of this suggests
- 34:25the Democrats going through their stages of grief with stupid
- 34:28amendments that will vote down. Senator Eric Schmidt, Republican from Missouri, said,
- 34:33for them, there's nothing left but the crying. I'm afraid.
- 34:37Voting on amendments was slow. At five p m. After
- 34:41eight hours of non stop voting, Schmidt said the Senate
- 34:45was only in the bottom of the third inning of
- 34:47the slog known as a Vodherama. Republican aids privately suggested
- 34:53that the approach signaled that Senate Majority Leader John Thunne,
- 34:57Republican from South Dakota, was still votiating behind the scenes
- 35:01with potential Republican holdouts. Republicans are using a process known
- 35:06as reconciliation to dodge a Democratic filibuster and pass the
- 35:11bill with a simple majority, but the process forces Republicans
- 35:15to make sure every line of the bill complies with
- 35:18a Bird Rule, which governs what can and can't be
- 35:22included in reconciliation bills. Elizabeth McDonough, the Senate parliamentarian charged
- 35:28with determining whether provisions violate the Bird Rule, was still
- 35:31reviewing legislative language Monday evening. According to Senator Mark Wayne Mullen,
- 35:36Republican from Oklahoma, that's part of the reason that voting
- 35:40was going so slowly, he said. The amendments are coming
- 35:44in faster than she can get to them, so we're
- 35:47actually having to just vote on them as they come out,
- 35:50Mullen told reporters. Senators are set to vote on Republican
- 35:54amendments as well as Democratic ones, including one from Senator
- 35:58Rick Scott, Republicans from Florida that would reduce the rate
- 36:02at which the federal government reimburses states that have expanded
- 36:06Medicaid under the Affordable Care Act for new enroll Lease
- 36:10Scott and three other Republican holdouts on Saturday demanded a
- 36:14vote on the amendment in exchange for their votes to
- 36:17start debate on the bill. The bill would extend expiring
- 36:21tax cuts passed during Trump's first term and make permanent
- 36:25several corporate tax breaks the White House hopes will spur
- 36:29economic growth. It includes a trier of Trump's populist campaign
- 36:33promises no taxes on tips, over time wages, or auto
- 36:37loan interest. It would also add six thousand dollars to
- 36:41the standard deduction for seniors, in a nod to another
- 36:44Trump campaign pledge ending taxes on Social Security benefits. The
- 36:49bill would cut one point one trillion dollars from health
- 36:52benefits programs, according to the Congressional Budget Office, and by
- 36:57twenty thirty four, nearly twelve million million people would lose
- 37:01health insurance. FUM defended the bill's Medicaid provisions Monday as
- 37:06necessary to rein in federal spending on the program. In
- 37:10the time I've been here, we have never ever done
- 37:13anything to reform and improve and strengthen these programs that
- 37:16are growing at an unsustainable rate that will wreck our
- 37:20economy and wreck our country if we don't start making
- 37:22some changes soon, said on the Senate floor. So yet,
- 37:26there are some improvements and reforms to medicate to make
- 37:29it more efficient, to make sure that people who are
- 37:32supposed to benefit from Medicaid do and that it doesn't
- 37:35go to people who shouldn't benefit from Medicaid. Paul Kane
- 37:39contributed to this report. Our next item is entitled Inside
- 37:45the largest US health care fraud bus ten point six
- 37:48billion dollar global scam swamped Medicare with a flood of
- 37:53phony claims by Dan Diamond and Lauren Webber. Gerald Quindry
- 37:58was facing a quandry. The seventy three year old retired
- 38:02engineer received a statement last year that Medicare, his health
- 38:06insurance provider, had been billed fifteen thousand, five hundred dollars
- 38:10for urinary catheters, but his doctor had never ordered them
- 38:14and Quindrey never wanted nor received them. Quendrey complained to Medicare,
- 38:20but he said the representative seemed nonplussed by his complaint
- 38:24and he could find little information about the incident himself
- 38:27beyond news reports of catheter related fraud in the government program. Obviously,
- 38:33somebody deserves to be in jail, Quindrey told the Washington
- 38:36Post in February. Four months later, several people are and
- 38:41they are facing criminal charges in what the government says
- 38:44is the largest health care fraud bust in US history.
- 38:48Quindrey was one of more than one million Americans whose
- 38:51personal information was compromised in an alleged ten point six
- 38:55billion dollar fraud scheme, the details of which were unsealed
- 38:59last week and announced by federal officials Monday. The two
- 39:03year investigation, dubbed Operation gold Rush, uncovered a conspiracy to
- 39:08purchase more than thirty small health care supply companies that
- 39:12were already enrolled of Medicare. Official said conspirators then used
- 39:17those companies to submit a flood of claims for urinary catheters,
- 39:21continuous glucose monitors, and other supplies that were not medically necessary.
- 39:25Law enforcement officials alleged the numbers were often eye popping.
- 39:30Beginning in late twenty twenty two, the companies collectively submitted
- 39:34fraudulent claims to Medicare for more than one billion urinary catheters.
- 39:39Officials said, I don't even know if the United States
- 39:43has the ability to manufacture one billion catheters in such
- 39:46a short time, said Isaac Bledsoe, director of Strategic Projects
- 39:50and Initiatives as a Department of Health and Human Services
- 39:53Inspector General's Office, which helped lead the investigation along with
- 39:57the Justice Department and the FBI. The absurdity, the brazenness
- 40:01of these actors is really just astounding. Federal officials were
- 40:06able to prevent more than ninety nine percent of the
- 40:08Medicare payments from reaching the alleged perpetrators, saying that teams
- 40:13at the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services and the
- 40:16HHS Inspector General's Office moved quickly to identify fraudulent bills,
- 40:21suspend payments to the suspected companies, and partner with other
- 40:25federal agencies that launched Operation gold Rush in early twenty
- 40:29twenty three. They also said they had been able to
- 40:32seize tens of millions of dollars in fraud proceeds. Bledsoe
- 40:37said it showed how the federal government has moved from
- 40:39its long standing pay and chase approach, where agencies would
- 40:43pay out claims before identifying fraud and then try to
- 40:47claw the money back, to a stop and caught model.
- 40:51But the perpetrators authorities alleged were still able to collect
- 40:55about one billion dollars in payments from other insurance companies
- 40:59that helped cover for older Americans health care costs, known
- 41:02as Medicare supplemental insurers. Those insurers were contractually obligated to
- 41:08reimburse claims processed by Medicare, even if Medicare didn't end
- 41:12up paying out the claims, officials said. For instance, Quindrey
- 41:16said his supplemental insurance company, Blue Cross Boushield of Illinois,
- 41:21paid twenty percent of his fraudulent fifteen thousand, five hundred
- 41:24dollars bill. Federal officials Monday also announced that they had
- 41:29disrupted other alleged health care fraud schemes potentially worth four
- 41:33billion dollars in total, including some focused on telemedicine, genetic testing,
- 41:39and opioid trafficking, as part of an ongoing government initiative
- 41:43aimed at health care fraud. These criminals didn't just steal
- 41:47someone else's money. They stole from you, Matthew R. Gallioti,
- 41:51headed the Justice Department's Criminal Division, said at Monday's news conference,
- 41:56where he was flanked by CMS administrator Mementov and other
- 42:00federal officials. Nineteen people have been charged with helping coordinate
- 42:04the Operation gold Rush scheme. According to indictments unsealed last
- 42:09week in federal court in New York, Illinois and other states,
- 42:13the alleged conspirators, who include people from Estonia, Kazakistan and Russia,
- 42:18phased charges of conspiracy, health care fraud, and money laundering
- 42:23that could send them to prison for years. At least
- 42:26one has taken a plea deal, according to public court dockets,
- 42:30Seven alleged conspirators were intercepted at US airport departure gates
- 42:34and at the US border with Mexico, officials said, while
- 42:38others have fled the US. Four defendants were apprehended in
- 42:42Estonia as a result of cooperation with Estonian law enforcement,
- 42:45officials said. The Post last year first revealed the federal investigation.
- 42:51Gabriel L. Emperato, a partner with the Nelson Mullen's law
- 42:54firm and a former HHS lawyer, said medicare supplies have
- 42:58long been a target for oversees health care fraud rings,
- 43:02which have often deployed similar tactics in hopes of tapping
- 43:05the sprawling, multi billion dollar market. It's just an opportunity
- 43:10for international criminals, Imperado said, adding that frausters have used
- 43:14similar tactics for decades. It's a never ending quest to
- 43:18try to get beyond the wacamole phenomena. Officials said. The
- 43:22episode underscores the vulnerabilities in the American healthcare system and
- 43:27the complexity of cracking down on waste, fraud, and abuse,
- 43:31a vowed political priority of the Trump administration. The US
- 43:35Doze Service and its former leader, Elon Musk, repeatedly highlighted
- 43:40the risks of Medicare fraud this year, although with sometimes
- 43:43misleading or false claims. The episode also resulted in mass
- 43:48confusion for patients across the country. Medicare and its contractors
- 43:53received more than four hundred thousand complaints related to the
- 43:56Catholic scheme, federal officials said, with old older Americans demanding
- 44:01to know why their Medicare accounts had been billed by
- 44:04companies such as Pretty and Pink and Main Street Dme.
- 44:08The scheme eensteared more than seven thousand physicians whose identities
- 44:12were used to order medical supplies without their knowledge. According
- 44:16to officials, in in meshed legitimate companies that happened to
- 44:20share the same name as the alleged perpetrators, such as
- 44:23the Pretty and Pink Boutique in Tennessee, an unrelated cancer
- 44:27supply store that was so drowned by complaints it posted
- 44:31instructions on how to report insurance fraud. It frustrated accountable
- 44:36care organizations groups of hospitals and physicians that received federal
- 44:40incentives to deliver high quality, low cost health care, which
- 44:45worried that they could collectively lose millions of dollars in
- 44:48payments because it appeared they were failing to manage their
- 44:52patient's health care spending. The National Association of ACOS and
- 44:56Industry trade group publicized the alleged fraud last year. The
- 45:01CMS subsequently issued a rule to change how it paid
- 45:04for catheters and effectively protect the accountable care organizations from
- 45:08the spike in cather bills, and the scheme angered lawmakers
- 45:13who demanded answers on why the alleged fraud had gone
- 45:17publicly unreported for more than a year. Targeting healthcare supplies
- 45:23known as durable medical equipment or DME, such as wheelchairs, catheters,
- 45:29and woondcare dressings, have long been an alluring target for scammers,
- 45:33in part because of the sheer number of claims as
- 45:36submitted every day for payment. Medicare will pay eighty percent
- 45:41of DME claims if the equipment is prescribed by a physician,
- 45:45and Medicare supplemental insurers will often pay the remaining balance.
- 45:50Bledsoe said the DME market also had a low barrier
- 45:53for entry for would be frosters, compared with other healthcare
- 45:57schemes that would require medical degree or and knowledge. With
- 46:01a d m E company, you essentially need space, supplies,
- 46:05and a person, and sometimes you don't even need the supplies.
- 46:09Bloodsoe said. The alleged conspirators homed in on intermitting urinary cathers,
- 46:15tubes of patients insert several times a day to drain
- 46:18their bladders and treat in continence. Urinate cathers made an
- 46:22appealing target for potential scammers because orders for the low
- 46:26cost products could escape some of the scrutiny that a
- 46:29company's billing for expensive equipment, surgeries, and other high cost
- 46:33claims products would set. The alleged conspirators were then able
- 46:38to obtain sensitive Medicare information for about one point two
- 46:42million Americans, officials set We have seen instances where Medicare
- 46:47beneficiary information can be bought and sold on LinkedIn on Craigslist.
- 46:52Blodsoe set, it is available if you know where to look,
- 46:55and it's not too hard to run across it. The
- 46:58alleged conspirators purchased small companies such as Priority One Medical Equipment,
- 47:04a medical supply company in Bowling Green, Kentucky, for two
- 47:07hundred thousand dollars in March twenty twenty four. According to
- 47:11charging documents. They hired US based office managers through Internet
- 47:15postings and phone calls, relying on those workers to collect
- 47:19mail and deposit checks. They then used cryptocurrency, virtual private servers,
- 47:25and other means to cloak their identities and move money
- 47:28out of the U. S officials said a majority of
- 47:32the fraud occurred by individuals who never even set foot
- 47:35in the United States. Bledso said as federal officials steadily
- 47:40identify the potential fraud, the CMS suspended payments to the
- 47:44companies and placed the funds in escro. As federal officials investigated,
- 47:49more than five point five billion dollars in Medicare funds
- 47:52remained suspended. Bloodsoe said, pass calls to telephone numbers listed
- 47:57in state and federal records for Priority One, Pretty in
- 48:00Pink and other companies being investigated led to busy signals,
- 48:05inactive numbers, and voicemail. Charging documents offered vivid depictions of
- 48:10how investigators surveiled suspects, inspected their offices, and confronted some
- 48:15alleged conspirators as they attempted to leave or enter the country.
- 48:20Investigators viewed no indication a legitimate d m E business
- 48:24was being run out of the location, as investigators did
- 48:28not observe any medical supplies or d m E inside
- 48:31the business, according to one court filing that included photos
- 48:35depicting the interior a Priority one a small office with
- 48:39empty shelves. Meanwhile, the company was in the midst of
- 48:43billing Medicare for about six hundred sixty seven million dollars,
- 48:47claiming that it had provided urinate, cathers and glucust monitors
- 48:52to about fifty thousand Medicare beneficiaries. Fast paced fraud. Federal
- 48:58officials set Operation gold Rush's work is not finished, noting
- 49:02that some of the alleged conspirators are still at large
- 49:06and that new companies continue to run the same playbook.
- 49:11Stephen Knuckles, a healthcare executive who helped publicize the catheter
- 49:15fraud last year, said that accountable care organizations have identified
- 49:19similar patterns of fraud this year around products such as
- 49:22skin substitutes, knee braces, and other dme. While Medicare issued
- 49:27a rule last year to shield healthcare groups of catheter fraud,
- 49:31the newer fraudulent bills are threatening his and other organizations again.
- 49:36He said, it's disappointing that CMS does not seem to
- 49:39have meaningfully adjusted its approach to prevent repeat abuse. Knuckles,
- 49:44the CEO of Coast of Carolina Healthcare, wrote in an
- 49:47email the CMS did not immediately respond to a request
- 49:51for comments. Cima Burma, who led the CMS in the
- 49:56first Trump administration, said the systems used to catch fraud
- 50:00and sometimes involved paper records. Now, with technology and artificial intelligence,
- 50:05there's much more opportunity. She said. The digitalization of medical records,
- 50:11the ability to interact with patients through portals, and the
- 50:14introduction of AI will make it easier to combat the
- 50:18fraud and abuse that is plagued the healthcare industry, said Verma,
- 50:22whose executive vice president and general manager of Oracle Health
- 50:25and Life Sciences. It's going to result in more arrests
- 50:29and greater protection for patients and taxpayers. Jetson. Later Louis,
- 50:34an assistant Boston University professor focused on health care fraud,
- 50:38told the Post last year that the government needed to
- 50:41invest more in detection through artificial intelligence, machine learning, and
- 50:45better data to save billions. He said. The government is
- 50:49getting better, the frausters are getting better, he said, and
- 50:53maybe the fraudsters are getting better faster. Federal officials said
- 50:57they were meeting the moment, noting that the all such
- 51:00perpetrators at the center of Operation gold Rush received only
- 51:03a sliver of their ten billion dollars in Medicare claims.
- 51:07They also announced the creation of a health care fraud
- 51:10Data Fusion Center, which officials said would allow agencies to
- 51:14use cloud computing, artificial intelligence, and advanced analytics to share information,
- 51:20identify fraud schemes, and quickly prevent funds from being paid.
- 51:25As the criminals get smart, we get smarter. Chris Shrank,
- 51:29HHS Deputy Inspector General for Investigation said in a statement,
- 51:33we share insights and experience to stay one step ahead.
- 51:37Aaron Schaeffer and Jeremy Roebuck contributed to this report. Our
- 51:42next item is entitled Fight over Statue Royals. Town that
- 51:46tried to heal divides. What began as effort to promote
- 51:50racial unity energize Confederate supporters in North Carolina instead by
- 51:56Gregory S. Snyder from Edenton, North Carolina. Confederate supporters arrived first,
- 52:03establishing a Saturday morning base near the town waterfront with
- 52:06save our History signs and Civil War information sheets. Some
- 52:11sported red MAGA hats and shirts that proclaimed America First,
- 52:15or in one case, if you don't like Trump, then
- 52:18you probably won't like me, and I'm okay with that.
- 52:22The opposition showed up about two hours later, carrying stark
- 52:25white signs with black letters, removed this statue for the
- 52:30next two hours, as they've done nearly every Saturday for
- 52:33the past three years. The groups mingled with confused tourists
- 52:37in a seemingly unending fight over a Confederate monument at
- 52:41the heart of this historic town, which is nearly sixty
- 52:44percent black. What started is an effort to promote racial
- 52:48unity in the eton by reconsidering its most prominent downtown
- 52:51symbol has done the opposite. A chapter of the Sons
- 52:55of Confederate Veterans, long extinct, locally sprang to life. The
- 53:00forgotten Confederate Memorial Day was resurrected and commemorated again last
- 53:04month with a wreath laying and row call of the
- 53:07rebel dead, and the town council, which had formed a
- 53:11Human Relations commission in twenty twenty to consider steps for
- 53:14racial reconciliation last fall, came up with a novel way
- 53:18to handle the statue of a generic Confederate soldier. Take
- 53:22it down from the waterfront, add it to the court
- 53:25house facing north. The green fatina figure of the soldier,
- 53:29one of many that were once found throughout the south,
- 53:32stands atop a stone column on a grassy traffic medium
- 53:36where the town market once stood. Enslaved people were bought,
- 53:40sold or offered for hire on that spot. The Civil
- 53:44War is a small part of the long heritage of Edenton,
- 53:47a town of about four thousand, five hundred located in
- 53:51Chowan Crowning near the western end at Albemarle Sound. Today,
- 53:55the town thries on tourism. Its streets an Americanic infection
- 53:59a pre revolution colonial homes next to Victorian fantasies next
- 54:03to nineteen twenties cottages. Broad Street is lined with shops
- 54:07and restaurants, A promenade of a quaintance leading straight down
- 54:10to the water, and the Confederate monument now mired and
- 54:14legal challenges. Moving the monument would be the first time
- 54:18in a decade that any locality in the United States
- 54:21has added a Confederate statue on courthouse grounds, according to
- 54:25a study published last month by the Southern Poverty Law Center,
- 54:29a legal advocacy organization specializing in civil rights and public
- 54:33interest litigation. At a moment when the Trump administration is
- 54:37scrubbing prominent black historic figures from US government websites and
- 54:42condemning Smithsonian exhibits on race as a devisive ideology, the
- 54:46Edington statute drama community activism followed by a resurgence of
- 54:50the old order seems to embody the nation's pivot from
- 54:54the reckonings of twenty twenty that were prompted by the
- 54:57murder of George Floyd by Minneapolis police. States and localities
- 55:02removed or renamed one hundred sixty nine Confederate memorials in
- 55:06twenty twenty. According to the recent spls' study, the fourth
- 55:11update of a survey originally conducted in twenty sixteen, Removals
- 55:15have declined every year since, plummeting last year to two.
- 55:19The study found through an analysis of federal, state, and
- 55:22local data. Head researcher Riefka Meislisch said the slowdown is
- 55:27at least partly attributable to the revival of lost cause
- 55:30sentiment by President Donald Trump, who has called for reinstating
- 55:34Confederate names on military basis and has issued an executive
- 55:38order that could restore Confederate monuments to federal property. The
- 55:42town from the White House gives an extra sense of
- 55:45empowerment to those who have come out to defend the
- 55:47Edenton Monument every weekend for the past three years. On
- 55:51a recent sunny Saturday, Ron Toppin eighty and two helpers
- 55:56set up a canopy over tables neatly lined with trays
- 55:59of confeds Ter information chiefs and hit the sidewalk two
- 56:02hours before their opponents arrived. Trump's election. They's a country
- 56:07a whole lot better, said Tappin, whose late wife used
- 56:10to organize the informational materials for the group, and who
- 56:13said his great great grandfather was a rebel soldier captured
- 56:16by the Union in eighteen sixty three. We've got America back.
- 56:21Mike Dean, commander of the Edington Belle Battery of the
- 56:24sons of Confederate veterans roared up on us. Harley dubbed
- 56:28Traveler after Confederate General Robert E. Lee's horse, and took
- 56:32command of the outpost. When a few protesters began marching
- 56:36up the sidewalk, Dean gestured to a woman walking by
- 56:39with a sign that read, remove this statue. Understand. Dean
- 56:43said these are Marxists. Marxists want to destroy history. He
- 56:48was referring to Deborah Miller sixty six, a retired human
- 56:52resources specialist who grew up at Eatington. Miller is white,
- 56:56but remembers protesting as a teenager when officials fired her
- 57:00her high school's black band teacher. She recalls white people
- 57:03saying the Confederate statue, completed in nineteen o nine but
- 57:07moved to its current spot in nineteen sixty one, would
- 57:10remind black people to stay in their place. Decades later,
- 57:14there are no black owned businesses along South broad Street,
- 57:17the main downtown thoroughfare. Only two members of the town
- 57:21council are black, and the community has never had a
- 57:24black mayor. Removing a statue that glorifies a confederacy wouldn't
- 57:29be destroying history, Miller said it would be correcting it
- 57:33with this statue. There's so much prejudice that I've seen
- 57:36through the years. She said that I'd rather just see
- 57:39it gone settled. In the mid sixteen hundreds, the town
- 57:44was the first colonial capital of North Carolina, and at
- 57:47one point rivaled near by Norfolk as a port. In
- 57:51seventeen seventy four, Edenton resident Penelope Barker, whose husband was
- 57:55away in England, heard about the Boston Tea Party and
- 57:58rallied the women of Edenton to stay to tea dump
- 58:01of their own. There act to ridicule from Britain, but
- 58:04it is remembered as arguably the first example of social
- 58:08activism by American women. A half century later, Edenton with
- 58:12a maritime stop on the Underground railroad. Over the centuries,
- 58:17some of its residents have earned national prominence for their
- 58:19roles in flights for freedom and civil rights. And due
- 58:23to the constraints of time, will be unable to complete
- 58:26this item. This concludes the readings of the Washington Post
- 58:30for to Day, Tuesday, July first, twenty twenty five. Your
- 58:33reader to day has been Cindy Fraser. If you have
- 58:36any questions, comments, or suggestions concerning this program, please feel
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- 58:46now please stay tuned