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Joe Rogan Experience _2160 - Billy Carson(M4A_128K) · Drawn of History

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  Speaker 1: The Joe Rogan Experience. Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast
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  Speaker 1: by night, all day. Yeah, so the thing is about
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  Speaker 1: that photo of the moon that they do with the phones.
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  Speaker 1: They found out that that's kind of bullshit.
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  Speaker 2: No, let me show you some of mine.
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  Speaker 1: I know, I took it too, but what it is
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  Speaker 1: is it's A.I., And so what someone did online, one
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  Speaker 1: of them clever kids, they took a very blurry photo
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  Speaker 1: of the moon and they put it on a screen
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  Speaker 1: across the room. Okay. And then they zoomed in on
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  Speaker 1: it as if it's the moon and the camera showed
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  Speaker 1: detailed craters.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, well, that's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking
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  Speaker 2: about like this, you know.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, okay.
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  Speaker 2: That's a real picture. Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So that you just used the 100x zoom. Yeah. You
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  Speaker 1: didn't use the moon photo thing.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, no. Because there's a moon shot. This is just
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  Speaker 2: me standing outside.
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  Speaker 1: There's a moon shot aspect to that that's a little.
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  Speaker 2: I've got to check that. I didn't know about that one.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, if you zoom in on it, if you zoom
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  Speaker 1: in on the moon. Okay, I don't think that's real. See,
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  Speaker 1: that's what I'm talking about. I think that's AI.
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  Speaker 2: The AI recreates it?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Really? Wow.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I know. I was showing off to my family.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, listen.
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  Speaker 1: I have the 22, I think the S22 Ultra. I
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  Speaker 1: had the older one, and I would take photos of
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  Speaker 1: the moon. I'm like, look, iPhone's bullshit. It can't do this.
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  Speaker 1: But it turned out it looks like I got fooled.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, man.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, because you can't hide stuff like that on the internet,
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  Speaker 1: technology stuff. Those guys are too good.
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  Speaker 2: They know everything.
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  Speaker 1: They know everything. But we were just talking about the difference.
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  Speaker 1: I'm really thinking about switching to Android. I'm just tired
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  Speaker 1: of being trapped online. Yeah. And it's just like this resistance.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody's like, don't do that. I'm like, oh, my God.
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  Speaker 1: It's like a mind virus. Like everybody's like culturally locked
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  Speaker 1: in having a blue bubble.
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  Speaker 2: But when you tell them you're going to switch from Apple,
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  Speaker 2: then Agent Smith shows up from the Matrix and inhabits
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  Speaker 2: their body. And they try to tell you to stop
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  Speaker 2: doing it. Don't do it. Like try to, you know.
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  Speaker 2: Convince you not to leave.
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  Speaker 1: It's like if you were a Catholic and you said,
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to become a Baptist.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: People are going, don't do it.
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  Speaker 2: Right. Don't do it.
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  Speaker 1: Like, what are you talking about?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: It's not that much different.
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  Speaker 2: I know. It's crazy.
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  Speaker 1: It's weird. People get, they get weird with everything. They
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  Speaker 1: get weird with their beliefs. They get weird with what
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  Speaker 1: they subscribe, what group they attach themselves to. So true.
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  Speaker 1: It's so strange. And I think this is a good
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  Speaker 1: way to segue into like what you do. And because
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  Speaker 1: these subjects, so many of these subjects, so many people
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  Speaker 1: have like an instantaneous reaction.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: That instantaneous reaction is, oh, hogwash.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: If this was true, I would already know about it.
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  Speaker 1: It would be taught in universities.
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  Speaker 2: It would all be.
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  Speaker 1: But then you find out, like, no one is really
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  Speaker 1: just kind of trying to piece stuff together, specifically talking
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  Speaker 1: about these ancient tablets, which are, to me, some of
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  Speaker 1: the most interesting things about ancient history, particularly what came
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  Speaker 1: out of ancient Sumer.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Ancient Sumer, when you look at their tablets and, like,
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  Speaker 1: what are they saying? And why would they dedicate so
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  Speaker 1: much time to talking about this stuff?
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  Speaker 2: Exactly.
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  Speaker 1: Why do they have pictures of giant enormous people looking
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  Speaker 1: things with a humanoid with a tail sitting on their lap.
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  Speaker 1: Is this just fiction? Why would they detail this and
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  Speaker 1: how do they have a representation of the solar system
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  Speaker 1: with the correct amount of planets and relatively the correct
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  Speaker 1: order and size? It's not exact, but it's an artistic
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  Speaker 1: version of the real thing. And how the hell, how
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  Speaker 1: the hell, how the hell 6,000, 5,000 years ago, Do
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  Speaker 1: they know that? And what explanations do we have? Like
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  Speaker 1: what's the conventional explanations when people tried to dismiss what
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  Speaker 1: they knew in ancient Sumer?
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  Speaker 2: Well, the conventional explanation is always going to the term mythology.
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  Speaker 2: They throw mythology around, you know, left and right to
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  Speaker 2: cover up the fact that they have no clue or idea.
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  Speaker 2: So they turn it into mythology so they can kind
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  Speaker 2: of say it's all fantasy and fairy tales. And this
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  Speaker 2: is how they express themselves or how they understood the
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  Speaker 2: universe and It's all mythology. It's all fake. But in reality,
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  Speaker 2: it's not all fake. These people left behind such detailed
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  Speaker 2: records and information. It's a time capsule of information on
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  Speaker 2: stone tablets for us today to be able to decipher,
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  Speaker 2: break down, and understand. And that's what we're here to
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  Speaker 2: do now.
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  Speaker 1: When you look at these ancient languages like cuneiform, can
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  Speaker 1: you read that? Do you know how to read it?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, a small amount of it, yeah. Studying it from
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  Speaker 2: books that I had bought right off of Amazon. Oh. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So basically you take a stick. It looks like a
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  Speaker 2: stick with a kind of a curved end, right? Almost sharpened.
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  Speaker 2: It's called a stylus.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, just like a stylus for an iPad.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly. Very similar, right? And then you take a piece
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  Speaker 2: of wet clay. And right before it's too wet or
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  Speaker 2: too dry, right in the middle stage, you then start wedging,
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  Speaker 2: making these incredible lines into the clay. And then from that,
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  Speaker 2: you get this cuneiform text. So this text literally, you know,
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  Speaker 2: some of them, some of the letters actually relate to
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  Speaker 2: complete ideas. But it's incredible work and it takes a
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  Speaker 2: long time to do. And then you have to let
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  Speaker 2: this thing dry and then it becomes stone. So, you know,
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  Speaker 2: if people were supposed to be trying to worry about
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  Speaker 2: how to how they're going to get their next meal.
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  Speaker 2: shelter for the night, and all these kind of things.
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  Speaker 2: Who has time to sit down and write these incredible
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  Speaker 2: works of art, like the Epic of Gilgamesh, for example?
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  Speaker 2: I think they really were writing down, and also they
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  Speaker 2: were transcribing information that was given to them by these
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  Speaker 2: quote-unquote gods with a lowercase g.
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  Speaker 1: So when you're reading things like the Epic of Gilgamesh,
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  Speaker 1: the Epic of Gilgamesh, for people who don't know, is
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  Speaker 1: one of the oldest versions of a lot of the
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  Speaker 1: stories that you hear in the Bible. Very similar to them.
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  Speaker 1: They seem to be There always seems to be a
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  Speaker 1: great flood. There's a few heroes. There's angry gods. There's
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  Speaker 1: a bunch of stuff going on. And Zachariah Sitchin's work
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  Speaker 1: was like the most controversial on the Sumerian text, right?
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  Speaker 1: Because there's a whole website called SitchinIsWrong.com. People go crazy
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  Speaker 1: about him. But when he starts talking about it, when
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  Speaker 1: you read some of the things that they wrote and
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  Speaker 1: when you see like some of the images that they created,
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  Speaker 1: the images that look like the double helix of DNA
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  Speaker 1: and– There's a bunch of the like that now we
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  Speaker 1: represent the caduceus, which is represents pharmacies and drugs like
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  Speaker 1: that's the old version of an image of the double
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  Speaker 1: helix of DNA. Or at least it looks super similar
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  Speaker 1: to that.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, it definitely is, because it's referenced even in the
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  Speaker 2: Egyptian Book of the Dead and other ancient texts. So
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  Speaker 2: there's no coincidences here. Now, Zachariah Sitchin, you know, I
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  Speaker 2: don't particularly go by his work. Not because it's controversial.
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  Speaker 2: I believe he was one of the greatest researchers of
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  Speaker 2: all time. And the reason why is because he laid
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  Speaker 2: out so much information for us to begin to scratch
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  Speaker 2: our head and ask questions. But what I figured out
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  Speaker 2: was that by going through the UCLA CDLI online cuneiform
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  Speaker 2: digital library, say that fast 10 times, I was able
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  Speaker 2: to take stone tablets and decipher them myself. So anyone
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  Speaker 2: can go online to the UCLA CDLI online. online cuneiform
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  Speaker 2: digital library and read these stone tablets for themselves. You
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  Speaker 2: don't need Zacharias Hitchin. You don't need anyone else. And
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  Speaker 2: as I began to break these tablets down.
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  Speaker 1: Do they have them transcribed or are you reading the
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  Speaker 1: actual tablet?
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  Speaker 2: They transcribe them. They actually transcribe them into English for you.
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  Speaker 1: Is there controversy as far as like are there different
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  Speaker 1: versions of the transcription? Like do some people think it's
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  Speaker 1: interpreted differently? Is like some debate about that?
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  Speaker 2: Only where it comes to where some of the text
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  Speaker 2: is missing. There could be pieces chipped off of tablets.
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  Speaker 2: You see that corner missing from that tablet right there
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  Speaker 2: in the Epic of Gilgamesh.
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  Speaker 1: Just look how wild is that. Just how wild is
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  Speaker 1: that that that exists and that this was– it's so
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  Speaker 1: hard for people to put in their brain 5,000 years
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  Speaker 1: of time and that there's these people that have this
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  Speaker 1: very bizarre language. Like when you look at that– we
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  Speaker 1: don't even know what it sounds like, right?
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: No.
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  Speaker 2: And the language popped up out of nowhere. Right. You're
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  Speaker 2: talking about a civilization that appeared out of nothing.
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  Speaker 1: It looks like computer code.
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  Speaker 2: It does.
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  Speaker 1: Doesn't it?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, it does.
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  Speaker 1: Just imagine a human being deciding that they were going
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  Speaker 1: to write down in these very bizarre... And they all
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  Speaker 1: agreed that all these things mean a certain thing. So
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  Speaker 1: they had to somehow or another have a Rosetta Stone
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  Speaker 1: or something where they're documenting it so that people can
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  Speaker 1: learn it and teach it.
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  Speaker 2: And then.
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  Speaker 1: We're looking at it 5,000 years later. It's so amazing.
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  Speaker 2: It is. And what's incredible is this text was translated
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  Speaker 2: in the 1800s, long before Zachariah Sitchin was born. So
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  Speaker 2: there are some rumors that, oh, he was the only
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  Speaker 2: one that could decipher these tablets. Well, no. George Smith,
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  Speaker 2: who worked as an Assyriologist and wrote many books and
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  Speaker 2: deciphered these Sumerian tablets in the 1800s. So we're talking
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  Speaker 2: about texts that have been deciphered for a few hundred years,
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  Speaker 2: nothing that was just deciphered recently.
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  Speaker 1: So what are the first decipherings? What year was the
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  Speaker 1: first deciphering?
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  Speaker 2: It was in 1800. I think around 1850, George Smith.
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  Speaker 2: He actually worked at the, I believe it was Cambridge.
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  Speaker 1: What was his take? When he's reading all these wacky
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  Speaker 1: stories and all the Anunnaki stuff, what's his take on it?
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  Speaker 2: He is literally subscribing to this information the way almost
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  Speaker 2: that you and I see it today. These people saw something,
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  Speaker 2: experienced something, interacted with something and he cataloged it, and
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  Speaker 2: it inspired him to write a complete translation of the
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  Speaker 2: Enuma Elish and the Seven Tablets of Creation. And he
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  Speaker 2: talks about the fact that that information was copied right
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  Speaker 2: from those tablets and put into the Old Testament of
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  Speaker 2: the Bible. And so, you know, not exactly like it's
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  Speaker 2: going to go from here to the Bible, but it
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  Speaker 2: went to other ancient papyruses and scriptures and so forth.
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  Speaker 2: And then later on, when it was discovered in caves,
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  Speaker 2: people took those and then said, okay, we got to
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  Speaker 2: put this into a book. And then it became the
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  Speaker 2: Bible much later, around 100 AD. But he subscribed to
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  Speaker 2: the theory that these people interacted with beings in some way, shape,
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  Speaker 2: or form, and that also this information is so incredible
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  Speaker 2: that it became part of the biblical text.
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  Speaker 1: Did you ever read the Dead Sea Scrolls?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So the Dead Sea Scrolls, what was it found.
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  Speaker 2: In?
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  Speaker 1: What year was that? It was in Qumran, right?
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  Speaker 2: It was Qumran, but I think, again, this was also,
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  Speaker 2: I believe, in the late 1800s or early 1900s. Is
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  Speaker 2: when they found them?
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  Speaker 1: So these things are written on animal skins, and this
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  Speaker 1: is a very old version of those exact same stories,
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  Speaker 1: or some of similar stories. There's a lot of weirdness
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  Speaker 1: in the Dead Sea Scrolls. I haven't read it, but
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  Speaker 1: Is there any references to anything that's similar, like Anunnaki-type characters,
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  Speaker 1: the Nephilim, or anything like that in the Dead Sea Scrolls?
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  Speaker 2: They show up everywhere in the Dead Sea Scrolls, in
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  Speaker 2: the Enuma Elish, in the Ebbukavatra Seas. Of course, even
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  Speaker 2: in the Bible, they're known as the Anak, A-N-A-K. We
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  Speaker 2: were grasshoppers in their eyesight, it says in the biblical text.
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  Speaker 2: So no matter where you go in any culture, you're
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  Speaker 2: going to discover that these beings, in some way or
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  Speaker 2: shape or form, engaged mankind, brought knowledge, teaching, building techniques,
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  Speaker 2: and just so much more wisdom and information, esoteric wisdom, alchemy.
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  Speaker 2: All these things came from these people.
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  Speaker 1: So the craziest version of this story is that they
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  Speaker 1: genetically engineered us out of lower primates and put us
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  Speaker 1: here to mine gold.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: And then established different types of civilizations and taught us
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  Speaker 1: how to build things, taught us all these different things.
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  Speaker 1: And enough time has passed that we've kind of forgot.
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  Speaker 1: Enough time has passed. That's the wackiest version of it, right?
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  Speaker 2: Right, right. That's the bare bones minimum. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: The wackiest version is they made us, which is we've
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  Speaker 1: talked about this a couple of times, but how bizarre
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  Speaker 1: it is that human beings have this incredible fascination for gold.
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  Speaker 1: We're fascinated with gold. This fascination with gold is really weird.
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  Speaker 1: Like why back when it was basically useless? You couldn't
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  Speaker 1: make a knife out of it. You couldn't, you know,
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  Speaker 1: like it didn't make sense that this would be so
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  Speaker 1: valuable just because it's rare. You're barely alive. You know,
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  Speaker 1: we're going, you know, right. We're going back to full
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  Speaker 1: on hunter and gather our ancestors with spears and stone chip.
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  Speaker 1: And then after that gold emerges and it stays, it
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  Speaker 1: stays forever. Now, when you read Zechariah Sitchin's book, he
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  Speaker 1: talks about this in the 1970s. His description of it
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  Speaker 1: was that they needed to suspend gold particles in the
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  Speaker 1: atmosphere because their atmosphere was being destroyed.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: Then you move to like somewhere around the 2000s when
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  Speaker 1: climate scientists start proposing this idea of suspending reflective particles
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  Speaker 1: in the atmosphere.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: And then when you realize the unique properties of gold,
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  Speaker 1: how unusual it is in terms of like a building material,
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  Speaker 1: you can coat things. The reason why things are like
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  Speaker 1: coated in gold, silver plate or gold plated rather, you
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  Speaker 1: can take a tiny piece of gold and cover an
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  Speaker 1: enormous area with it. It's a strange metal.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Like really weird. And what that... You know, the supposed
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  Speaker 1: story is it's very common on Earth, very rare on Nibiru.
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  Speaker 2: Right. Yeah, that's the story. I started looking into this
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  Speaker 2: gold thing myself, and here's what I came up with.
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  Speaker 2: So when you start analyzing the text, you discover that
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  Speaker 2: there was an encampment in a place called South Africa
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  Speaker 2: at Adam's Calendar. Now, at Adam's Calendar, there's actually the
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  Speaker 2: very first gold mines discovered. They're dating them back to
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  Speaker 2: about 200,000 years ago. And that's incredible because there's a
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  Speaker 2: building there that looks like a worn-down structure. Now, in
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  Speaker 2: the tablets, it talks about the fact that the Igigi,
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  Speaker 2: who were the working-class Anunnaki beings who were cleaning out
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  Speaker 2: the Euphrates and Tigris River so they can create irrigation
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  Speaker 2: and create a bustling civilization. Also, they were doing the
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  Speaker 2: actual construction themselves. No people needed, just them working. They
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  Speaker 2: were like the construction workers. And Anu and Enkin and Lil,
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  Speaker 2: these leader gods, were like the foremen, the master architects
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  Speaker 2: and so forth, the boss. So these people were working,
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  Speaker 2: but they weren't supposed to be enslaved. They were volunteers.
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  Speaker 2: They got tired of doing the work, according to them,
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  Speaker 2: for about 250,000 years of labor on Earth and also,
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  Speaker 2: according to them, on Mars. This is in the text.
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  Speaker 2: They call it Lamu. And so they decided to go
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  Speaker 2: to war against Enki and Lil and Anu because their
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  Speaker 2: demands had not been met. So they went to meet
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  Speaker 2: them in the epoch of Atrahasis. They go to Adam's calendar,
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  Speaker 2: they go to that same structure that was discovered where
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  Speaker 2: that gold mine is located. I was like, holy crap,
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  Speaker 2: there is some link here to gold. Specifically, exactly, I
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  Speaker 2: don't know. But I know if you're an advanced civilization,
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  Speaker 2: you need gold. And the people that you have working
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  Speaker 2: it for you probably think, you know, it's to adorn
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  Speaker 2: or to adorn yourself or in recognition of the gods.
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  Speaker 2: So they'll wear it and they'll utilize it, but not
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  Speaker 2: for technology. But what's crazy is they go to war,
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  Speaker 2: they go to get ready to go to battle. And
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  Speaker 2: then Enki says... I have an idea that will stop
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  Speaker 2: this war. There's an existing being on this planet, existing,
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  Speaker 2: not something that doesn't exist, existing. We can add our
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  Speaker 2: essence to it with a slain God. So they're talking
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  Speaker 2: about taking the DNA or genetics from one of themselves
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  Speaker 2: and mixing it with the DNA of the hominy that
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  Speaker 2: was here. It's not specified whether it was, you know,
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  Speaker 2: an ape man or anything, but they don't specify in
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  Speaker 2: the tablets, but to create a worker being. and they
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  Speaker 2: began to do this genetic modification, probably disconnecting some of
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  Speaker 2: our DNA, making genetic modifications to us to get us
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  Speaker 2: to take orders from them. They inserted something called a
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  Speaker 2: worship gene, which was just discovered recently, that human beings
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  Speaker 2: have a gene inside of them that can be turned
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: on and turned off. It can be turned off in
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: a laboratory setting. It can also be turned off with
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: a magnetic field around your head. And when it's off,
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: you don't want to worship anything outside of yourself. You
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: look inside, and when it's on, you look to get
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: something from the outside. So this is incredible.
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: And so they made us worship people. So they engineered
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: a gene inside of us to make us worship them.
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: How genius.
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: It's incredible because then you're not a slave anymore. You're
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: doing this for the honor of the gods.
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: And for people who think all this talk is really crazy,
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: I want to put into perspective that we talked about
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: this the other day, that during the, was it, which
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: war was it where the Soviet Union was experimenting with
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: It was scientists in the Soviet Union, correct? They're experimenting
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: with creating a chimpanzee-human-being hybrid that they would probably send
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: to war. So instead of having regular people, we would
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: make this monster, this freak. you know, ape man and
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: send him to war and have him crush the enemies.
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: It's just how crazy is that? They knew how strong
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: chips are. I got an idea. Let's turn a chip human.
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: And that way, if he dies, who gives a fuck?
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: We made him. Get him to go to work for us.
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: And now if you're a supremely enlightened being, wouldn't you
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: think of human beings with all of our folly and
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: all of our chaos and all of our war and
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: bullshit and the internet and disinformation and misinformation and Wouldn't
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: you think of us kind of the same way we
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: would think about that chimp hybrid thing? If I was,
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: you know, I was the president of Russia, would I
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: want my cousins to go to war? Or would I
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: send this freak that I made.
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: In a lab?
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: And what's interesting, I'm glad you said made in a lab.
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: They had talked briefly in that text about fashioning people.
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: In other words, almost like. How did they say it?
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: They said the word fashioning. Fashioning a being.
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: Do you remember the actual quote?
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: I would have to look it up, the actual quote.
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: But they describe it as fashion.
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: Fashion, because they said even the lamb hadn't been fashioned yet,
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: so they had fashioned lambs. So they fashioned, and it's
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: also in the Epic of Gilgamesh, they fashioned the friend
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: that Gilgamesh went on the journey with. He wasn't born
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: from a woman's womb. They created him. They created him
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: an artificial being to go on this journey in the
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: Epic of Gilgamesh. So they used that phrase several times
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: in the tablets. But they said, no, wait. It was
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: almost like that's not a good idea because in some
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: ways it seems as if they had known that the
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: idea of making too many artificially created people wouldn't be
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: a good idea. Now, they didn't go deeper than that,
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: but you can see where we are today with AI
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: and everything else and these robots that are coming. Maybe
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: they knew something about that. But they decided to take
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: a biological being and genetically modify and program that to
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: do the work, and that's exactly what they did.
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: Well, if they really knew what we would be capable of,
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: And that we would be illogical. Overpopulation would be a
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: gigantic issue. And in many parts, I mean, it's not
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: really that big of an issue here except for in cities.
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: But in many parts of the world, it's the whole country.
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: The whole country is New York City, which is just
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: fucking bonkers. And you've got to wonder. It's actually not true.
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: It's not even that bad even in China. China has
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: a lot of open space. But when you're in those cities,
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: they are massive. And they are filled with people.
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: And that is probably what you would imagine a higher
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: being would do if it was like us, like kind
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: of illogical and kind of a little bit reckless and
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: has a little bit too much technology for the average
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: person that didn't develop the technology. But all of a
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: sudden you got some 85 IQ dope who has access
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: to all the things that all these geniuses have created.
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: I mean, you could, I mean, You can figure it.
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: We talked to Michio Kaku. He built a nuclear reactor
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: in his house.
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: When he was a kid. I heard about that. That
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: was crazy.
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: That's crazy.
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know.
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: That's so crazy. But there's a lot of different stuff
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: that you can do and have access to technology that
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: is beyond anything you would ever be able to invent
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: with your own mind. But because we share things across
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: the board, you would imagine that if you were an
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: enlightened being from another planet that's a million years more
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: advanced than us, you'd go, I see where this one's going.
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: You have that cousin who's an alcoholic and then he
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: wins the lottery like, oh shit, Derek just won the lottery.
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: This is going to be crazy. Derek's got $ 200 million.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: This is going to be fucking insane.
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: It's crazy. And they knew they were They were going
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: outside their own guidelines and their own laws, their parameters,
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: because they made a statement in the text. They said
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: the creator of all is going to punish them or
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: they would have to answer to the creator of all
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: for what they did here. So that lets you know
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: they weren't really gods. They knew themselves that they weren't
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: the creator of the universe, but that they masqueraded as
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: gods on this planet.
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: Just like we did when different versions of human civilization
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: would find primitive tribes... Like the cargo tribe.
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: Cargo cults.
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: The cargo cult that you talked about in your documentary.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: That is so fascinating that during World War II, planes
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: landed on these remote places and these people built mock
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: planes to show what the thing was that came to
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: visit them that they thought were like gods.
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: Wild.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: Do you think that if the Anunnaki are real and
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: if Nibiru really exists and there's another planet with highly
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: intelligent beings that are far more advanced than us, if
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: that's the case, do you think there's... more advanced and
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: more advanced, just like we are to chimpanzees, they are
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: to us, and then another race is to them, and
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: then it just keeps going on and on forever until
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: you're God.
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: Absolutely. I believe there's levels to the game, just like
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: there's levels in terms of how we live on this planet.
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: We have the first world, second world, third world, just
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: here on Earth. Now, magnify that as a fractal, as
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: a universe as a whole, you have civilizations that are
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: a million, two million, maybe even a billion years ahead
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: and every civilization progressing within the universe at a specific rate.
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: So you can have beings that have already maybe even
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: shed their corporeal bodies and only exist as beings of
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: energetic light, and then you have everything all the way
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: back down towards us. In the Emerald Tablets of Thoth,
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: he actually says that he has achieved the ability to
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: incarnate at will on and in the plane he desires.
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: He claims to be able to incarnate whenever he wants
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: and even into other dimensions. which is wild.
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: That's next level.
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's next level.
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: But it does make sense that if we're capable of
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: doing what we're doing, we were talking about your phone,
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: the Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra with zooms and all this
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: different shit, that's magic to someone just 200 years ago.
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: And if it keeps going and you keep playing this
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: out as far as possible, it kind of makes sense
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: that there would be levels to the kind of intelligent
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: life that exists in the universe beyond our comprehension.
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: If you talk to Terrence Howard, do you know his
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: theory about how planets are created? That it's just things
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: ejecting from the sun over billions and billions of years
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: and that there's a Goldilocks zone where you can create life.
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: And that's where the people are. And then as this
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: Goldilocks zone gets– you have to be super technologically proficient.
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: In order to control your environment to the extent that
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: you no longer require the sun in order to keep
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: you alive. Right. It kind of makes sense if Nibiru's
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: out there past Pluto.
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: Oh, it makes a lot of sense. It makes sense
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: that they- Because I just talked to him a couple
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: hours ago. Oh, okay.
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: I mean, so we were talking about web conjugations and everything.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: Fucked me up for like three days. I left this
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: podcast for three days.
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: I was like, God damn.
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: First of all, how the fuck is he so smart? Like,
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: how would you ever imagine that a dude who's an
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: actor on a television show or in a movie is
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: that smart? Right, right. Like, freaky smart.
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: Right, right.
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: But his theory about the creation of planets, I was like, oh,
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: that makes sense.
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: Oh, it makes a lot of sense.
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: We watch stuff fly off the sun all the time.
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: And that this matter over time would coalesce and become
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: a planet.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it creates an accretion disk. And everything in space
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: creates accretion disks. What is that word?
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: Accretion disk?
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: Accretion. What does that mean? So once you have a
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: certain amount of mass in space. it instantaneously, on its own,
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: wants to create this circular, like the shape of our
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: Milky Way galaxy, wants to start circling and swerving around itself.
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: And then as it does that, it begins to create friction.
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: As that friction increases, the matter begins to collapse in
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: towards each other, based on its own energy, and then
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: it then forms a ball. And that then builds and
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: attracts more mass until it builds into a moon or
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: a planet or whatever.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: What do you do when you encounter flat Earth people?
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: Oh, man, I just try to be quiet. I just
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: tell them, look, it's not my thing. I remember Flat
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: Earth Society offered me money years and years ago. And
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: I was like, no, I don't believe the earth is flat.
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: I'm not getting involved with this. And they really attacked
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: me hard, death threats and everything else.
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: They get very upset. I do not understand. I just
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: think it's people committing to an idea. It just doesn't
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: make sense.
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: Well, it's a religion now. They turned it into a religion.
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: Anytime that people can attack you so brutally over that,
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm on live talking about quantum physics, and
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: they're in the chat. The Earth is flat. The Earth
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: is– I mean, so that's– that's like, I mean.
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: I'm fascinated by it because– It's interesting. Yeah, because it's
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: the ultimate conspiracy theory. The ultimate conspiracy theory is that
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: we are all on a set and that the Earth
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: is flat. It's a disc. There's a wall. The government's
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: aware of it. They won't let you pass a certain distance. Yeah,
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: there's ice walls.
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: And that space is just lights in the sky.
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: Right. That's it. And the sun is a bulb and
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: all this kind of stuff. It's wild.
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: And it's attached to a version of Christianity, which is
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: very interesting.
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: It is. It's tied into Christianity, the 6,000-year-old theme. The
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: earth is only 6,000 years old. The reason why people
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: think the earth is 6,000 years old is because most
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: of the tablets are 6,000 years old. And the Bible
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: was written from the information that came from tablets. So
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: that's as far back as anybody's quote-unquote knowledge seems to extend.
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: That's where the 6,000-year-old theory comes from. But they've taken
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: that thing and turned it into a religion. I remember
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: one guy DMing me, and he was going off and
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: telling me he was going to shoot me in the
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: head and all this stuff. And I said, let me
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: ask you a question. If there's no atmosphere, then what
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: are you breathing right now? He goes, what do you mean?
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: I'm breathing oxygen. I said, well, that's a gas. Gas
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: doesn't exist. I said, well, then you should be dead
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: then because you're breathing a gas. I said, what else
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: are you inhaling when you breathe? He goes, oxygen. I said, well, no,
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: you're breathing in helium, kryptonite. Mostly nitrogen. Yeah, nitrogen. I said,
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: you're beating in all these other gases. Oxygen is only
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: around 21% of that. Otherwise, you'd be dead. So he
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: couldn't tell you. I said, did you graduate from high school?
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: He said, no. I said, I stopped talking. That's when
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: I realized, don't waste your energy on these people.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: Well, there's a lot of dudes, unfortunately, who just get
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: on YouTube and they listen to very charismatic people talk
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: that don't know what they're talking about, which I do
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: all the time. But they do it in a way
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: where they pretend they know something is true that's not true.
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: And people get sucked into it.
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: And I just don't understand why you would think that
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: Earth is the only one out of all these things
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: that we've observed that's flat. It just doesn't make any sense.
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: And I think this is respectfully to all these people
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: that believe that. I think it's a giant waste of time.
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: It is. I think concentrating on the shape.
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: Of the Earth.
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: even if it was flat, who fucking cares?
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: It means nothing.
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: Look at what's going on out there. It would be
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: kind of crazy if it was flat. That would kind
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: of like bolster the idea that we're the shit and
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: that we're just so much more powerful and advanced and
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: special than everything else in the universe because we're the
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: only ones that exist on a flat plane.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: But the whole thing is just so insane. Just what
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: we know about the physical universe itself and about atoms
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: and just what we know about All the matter that
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: exists in our lives is insane.
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's insane. I mean, obviously, they haven't tapped into it.
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: Even forget quantum. Standard physics, they don't comprehend it. And
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: so because of that, they're lost. I mean, satellites don't exist, obviously,
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: to them. But that's a kooky one. I remember Hurricane Maria.
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: The satellite still exists. That's a kooky one. Like, bro,
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: you can watch them.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's crazy. Hurricane Maria comes and destroys the Caribbean.
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: And unfortunately, I had some loved ones that were involved
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: in that. And I posted a picture of the hurricane
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: because I was raising money for hurricane supplies. And they
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: were commenting and attacking. That's a fake image. It doesn't exist.
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: I'm like, wow.
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: Let me ask you this. How much of that is bullshit? Like,
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: how much of that is government, either entities from other
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: foreign governments or where they jump into these subjects to
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: make people seem really stupid. And when people say something
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: really stupid, one of the things they like to do
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: is put a foreign flag, like an American flag, rather,
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: in their little profile. And they're just saying, they're dumb
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: as shit. And I'm going, I don't know if this
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: is a real person. I think it's not. I think
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: it's one of those things that's designed to muddy up
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: any discourse about anything.
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a PSYOP. I'm telling you, I told people
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: a long time ago, this whole Flatterer thing was a
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: CIA PSYOP. I think it was drop it in there.
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: It wasn't a CIA psyop. It was someone from 4chan
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: who just wanted to be silly and went so hard
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: with explanations that a lot of gullible people without science
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: degrees like me, they went along with it. And it's
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: just one of those things where it's just, man, what
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: a giant waste of time.
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: It is.
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: It's a waste of energy.
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: And there's so much more we can learn, like these
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: ancient texts. And people say, why are you always focused
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: on the ancient past? Well, because the past is prologue.
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: If we don't understand what happened back then, we're doomed
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: to continue to repeat these cycles of time that we've
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: been in for quite some time, for eons.
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's just direct evidence that civilizations don't last
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: when they go kooky.
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: You know, and that things go sideways and there's natural
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: disasters and wars that reshape landscapes. Like, look, it's all
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: there and it's happening right now. And if we're not
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: aware of it, it'll happen to us. And then we'll
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: be a footnote of history. We'll be one of those things.
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: There was this amazing country called America. They got crazy.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: They created all this art and culture, and they did
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: amazing things, but they went fucking sideways. They sold out
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: the money. They got involved in wars, and then the
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: next thing you know, the world is operating essentially like
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: communist China. The whole world. That's possible too, kids. You
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: gotta fight for this. Whatever this thing is that we have,
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: this is super fucking unique. But if you don't want
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: to look at the past... If you're not fascinated by
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: ancient structures, if you're not fascinated by what kind of
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: technology and knowledge did they have 4,500 plus years ago
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: to make the pyramids, who are these people?
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: Exactly.
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: What were they doing?
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: How did they do that? And what was that thing?
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: Was that a power plant? Right. I mean, I know
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: you know that theory. Oh, yeah.
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: Absolutely.
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: That is a crazy theory that sounds so– it sounds
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: completely wackadoo. Mm-hmm. But then when you have it laid
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: out to you, Christopher, what's his last name?
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: Dunn.
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: Christopher Dunn.
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: I just had him on my podcast a few weeks ago.
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: I just had him a couple weeks ago, too. I
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: just had a brain fart. His depiction of the mechanisms
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: that would be involved in turning this giant structure into
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: some sort of a power plant, you hear about it
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: and you go, wait a minute.
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: Whoa. Yeah. It makes a lot of sense. And him
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: and I have very similar theories on how the power
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: generation occurred. And I believe that the Nile, you know,
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: when it used to run up close to the pyramids
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: and the water would run underneath the pyramid and that
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: would create something called physiostatic electricity as it ran underneath
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: that magnetized crystal granite. Those ions would pour up into
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: the chamber, move up the grand gallery where there used
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: to be resonating rods. You can see the slots where
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: the rods used to be. They're removed now, but the
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: slots are still there. Then it would be pushed into
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: the king's chamber where it would be amplified and some
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: type of fusion would take place. Then forced up through
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: the apex. And then the crystal granite obelisks around the
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: region would capture that ambient wireless electricity. And then if
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: you had something called a jet, which looks like a
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: Tesla coil, you can capture that energy and you can
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: transfer it into a device for gold electroplating, for any
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: other electrical tools you need, like some of the tools
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: they had to have used to create some of these
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: incredible works of art. We can see the tool marks,
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: so we know they had the tools. But they had
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: wireless electricity way back then.
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: That's insane. If that's true, that's insane. Yeah. Because you
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: would think there would be some kind of physical evidence
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: of a device, like something left over, some sort of
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: ancient chainsaw, like something.
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah. They did a great job cleaning up. I mean,
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: they poured sand over Giza to bury another couple hundred
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: pyramids there at Giza.
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: Do you think they poured sand? Do you think that's
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: just natural erosion over time? Yeah. When Giza, when the
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: pyramids existed, it was a very different place, right? Like,
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: if you go back before the pyramids, like 9,000 years ago,
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: it was a lush rainforest, right?
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: And then over time, it became sand. And the same
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: with the entire Sahara Desert, which is really crazy. We
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: just were talking about the other day, they find whale
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: bones in the Sahara Desert.
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. I'm going to the Valley of the Whales
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: in a few weeks in Egypt, actually. It's incredible that
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: there's whale bones out there also, so. We're going out
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: there to the Valley of the Whales.
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: Whale bones. Whoa. But so the point being that this
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: place has changed radically, like absolutely radically over time. So
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: who knows what's, do you know why those things were
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: covered up? Is it possible that it was just sand
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: over time?
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: Well, if you look at the tablets again, they talk
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: about this war, right? And this war that occurred, there's
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: a lot of wars, obviously, but this one particular war,
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: it seems like the same one that damaged the area
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: or the region of the Giza Plateau Also Mohenjandaro in
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: the Indus Valley up there by Pakistan. And the reason
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: why it's interesting is if you look at the war
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: in the Texan and go to those areas, it looks
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: now almost you can begin to see, oh, wait a minute,
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: it looks like war. Mohenjandaro, Indus Valley, the buildings turned
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: to glass. The sand turned to glass and the bodies
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: are still laying in the street right now today holding hands,
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: never been scavenged by animals. Wait a minute.
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: Where is this?
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: Mohenjandaro.
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: Are there photos that we can look at?
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: Look it up.
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: Mohenjandaro, Indus Valley. Dead bodies still laying in the street
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: thousands of years later.
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: And guess what? They just lay there?
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: No one's covered them up? Nobody's covered them up.
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: When you put a Geiger counter over them, higher than
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: background level radiation. Really? Yeah.
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: But aren't stones higher than background level radiation?
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: Some stones are. Some stones are. Especially like diorite and
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: crystal granite. But these bodies, these are just bones.
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: How come they're higher than background level radiation?
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: I can't wait to see this. Why haven't I ever
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: heard of this?
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: Mohen, Jandaro, M-O-H-E-N. There you go.
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: Whoa. Yeah.
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: This is evidence of a nuclear war or nuclear type
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: of a war.
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: Go back to the other, that one there, that one's insane.
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah. There's bodies that are sitting on the edge of
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: steps next to their own buildings that they lived in.
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: The building is turned to glass. That's 3,000 plus degree
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: temperature weapons fire.
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: So there's a bunch of people that seem to die
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: all at once just scattered around? Yeah. Now, what's the
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: conventional explanation for how these people died?
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: They have no idea. They have zero idea. The only
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: thing that you can.
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: That was just a couple, Jamie. Go to the other,
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: just the Mohenjandara mythical massacre.
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: So did they think it's a massacre? Is there any... Yeah,
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: look at the guy just laying there.
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: Just laying there. And that building, those stones are vitrified,
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: which means 3,000 plus degree temperature.
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: Oh, shit.
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: What kind of, you know, what could have caused that
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: level of temperature, energetic release.
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: Well, it could have been a low-atmosphere asteroid.
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: It could have been.
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: I mean, just like.
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: That's possible.
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: Tunguska.
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it could have been a low... But then their
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: bones would have been splattered apart and broken up into pieces.
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: Good call. Yeah, that's a good call. Yeah, because... They
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: don't seem to be broken apart.
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: No, they're not broken apart.
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: That impact would have shattered the bones and spread them
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: out over a great distance.
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: Right, but without impact, even if you just look at
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: the one that burst in the atmosphere in Tunguska, it
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: just flattened trees.
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: Flattened everything, all the trees.
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: I think it's some insane, like a million acres or
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: something crazy.
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's incredible.
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: How big was the Tunguska explosion? That one's, yeah, so
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: those bodies would be toast because the trees were ripped apart.
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: The buildings would have been flattened.
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: The legs would have flown off. There's no way they
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: would just be laying there like that.
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: Exactly.
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: That's interesting. And they don't seem to be, like, chopped up.
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: No.
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: Did they have any evidence of stab wounds or anything
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: on them?
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: They don't have any evidence of any injury of any
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: kind of attack or any cutting or, like, swords or anything.
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: They just all got cooked. Right.
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: And then in the tablets it says that the evil wind.
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: moved over to land after they released these weapons. And
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: then Enki goes to his father. I mean, yeah, Enki
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: goes to his father Anu and says, hey, can you
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: stop the evil wind? Because he had fallen in love
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: with some people, you know, and down there. And he's like,
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: there's nothing I can do. He said, get in your
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: skyship and forebode. That means get the hell out of here.
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: And he said the people's hair was falling out. Their
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: eyes were bleeding. Their nose were bleeding. Their fingernails were
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: curling off. That sounds like radiation sickness.
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: So you think it's radiation sickness that did this to
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: all these people or was it an impact that did
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: this to all these people?
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: Nobody knows. Nobody knows.
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: But they're not blown apart.
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: Right. They're not blown apart. It seems like whatever struck
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: or whatever energetic weapon it was, it might not have
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: been a weapon. Whatever it was, it seems like that
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: shockwave reached them at some point and whatever was in
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: that wave.
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: Just killed everybody.
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: That's what it did. Yeah.
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: And they just don't know what it is? How does
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: a conventional archaeologist describe it? Do they just say it's
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: a massacre?
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: They just call it a mythical massacre and they stay
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: away from it. When you look in the other texts,
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: the Mahabharata and the Bhagavad Gita, you find out about
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: these wars also. They're recorded. They have weapons called the
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: Brahma Astra and the Brahma Handa weapon. And these weapons,
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: what they describe them as doing, duplicate what you saw there.
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: How do they describe them?
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: They describe them as weapons that once released can't be
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: revolted or can't be turned back and that they will
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: obliterate any area, any city. And they say that one
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: of the weapons can destroy any man on three worlds.
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: It's crazy stuff. This is where Oppenheimer got his famous
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: quote when he obviously tested the nuke, right? Now I
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: have become death, destroyer of worlds. He got that from
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: the Mahabharata. Yeah.
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: What a great. quote to say after you detonate the
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: first nuclear bomb.
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: What a great quote.
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: So the idea is that there were beings that were
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: having wars on this planet. Do you believe they were
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: having wars with people that were revolting or were they
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: having wars with other beings?
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: They were fighting with each other. And evidence of these
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: wars can be found in the book of Deuteronomy in
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: the modern day Bible. These gods, and I do mean
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: gods with an S, because everywhere in the Bible where
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: it says God singular, it's actually a mistranslation. The actual,
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: if you backwards look up the translation in Arabic and
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: down to Aramaic and everything else, you find out it's
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: gods plural. They were fighting each other over resources and
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: people and control of the planets. And so that's why
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: in the book of Deuteronomy, God tells people, go to
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: this city, and it's like a far city. They don't
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: even know these people exist. They go over there to
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: kill them. He says, kill the women, kill the children,
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: and bring the spoils of war back to me. And
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: you see these wars in the Mahabharata, the Bhagavad Gita,
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: the Bible, the Sumerian tablets. And these wars are just nonstop,
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: the Indian Vedas. And it's always about attacking another city.
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: And he even talked about Trojan horse methods to get
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: behind the gates and then to utilize that to attack
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: and kill. and bring back these spoils, which is pretty
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: crazy stuff. It's like they were attacking each other. They
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: had gone awry. They had gone rogue out here on
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: this planet and then began to fight over people and
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: populations and resources.
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: And we would hope that we would get past that.
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: But there's no evidence that we have so far. So
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: why would we think that as AI gets implemented and
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: technology escalates and And all we're going to be able
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: to do in the future in terms of being able
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: to go visit other planets and duke it out on
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: other planets.
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: Like there was a whole story today about China just
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: landed on the far side of the moon. So they
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: landed a probe over there.
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, they did.
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: This is, you know, the China-America war on the moon.
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: Like what if America claims a spot and China lands
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: and plants a flag there and they're like, hey, fuck you,
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: that's ours.
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: Now that's what's going to happen.
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: Especially if there's something on the moon they can mine
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: that's very valuable.
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: Oh, this stuff up there. I researched the Clementine mission
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: years ago. NASA and the United States military sent a military,
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: at that time, it was a top secret mission called Clementine.
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: It was a low lunar orbiting satellite to go to
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: the dark side of the moon. And when I saw
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: the name Clementine, I knew right away this thing ain't
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: coming back. And as I began to dig deeper into
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: the declassified documents, of course it never came back. Oh,
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: my darling Clementine, you were lost and gone forever. Wow.
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: And I was right. And sure enough, it hit something
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: on the dark side of the moon, which is really
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: just the backside. It's not really dark there, but it
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: hit something. But it sent back about 20 gigs of data.
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: And these images are available to the general public. They've
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: been declassified. And there are strange anomalies on those images.
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: This is pre-Photoshop, pre-everything. Things that shouldn't be there that
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: look like broken structures and junk and things that just
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: seem to be laying around. So I think it was
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: a recognizance mission to gather intel and data, which is
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: probably why China's gone to the to that far side
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: of the moon as well, because they're probably going to
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: it's the race to see who can capture ancient technology
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: and then reverse engineer it and then weaponize it.
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: Well, that's the most fun theory ever. The most fun
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: theory ever is that there's bases on the moon and
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: the dark side of the moon that aliens have abandoned. Jamie,
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: are there any photos of these anomalies? That's the most
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: fun thing.
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: I can provide you some with links to the sources too.
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: Okay. Yeah. That'd be cool. But Jamie will probably find something.
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: Cool.
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: So what do these structures look like to you when
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: you look at them?
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: There's dome structures there.
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: A dome?
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: There's domes. As a matter of fact, one of the astronauts,
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: I think it was Neil Armstrong, if you get the
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: declassified from the Freedom of Information Act documents that are
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: the black box audio and the black box redacted text
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: statement from NASA, which is available to the general public,
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: Neil says, look at those convex structures down there. I
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: bet that people in there never get out. And he's
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: talking about dome structures on the moon. And this is
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: an exact statement that was made that's in the black
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: box audio, which I can provide you to link to
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: that as well.
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: Okay, so where are these structures? Do you see any
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: of these that you find compelling?
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: You need to look for anomalies on the backside of
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: the moon. We utilize a lot of these on our
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: Facebook groups. On Facebook, we have these groups, anomaly hunting groups.
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: We formed the United Family of Anomaly Hunters, and we've
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: cataloged about 60,000 anomalies now. A lot of them are
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: on the dark side of the moon. But type in
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: Clementine Moon Photos Anomaly. You may be able to find some.
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: If not, I'll send you the link to some resources
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: where you can look them up, and you can take
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: a look at some of these crazy objects that are there.
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: So is that one right there in the upper right-hand corner?
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that one's there. There's some structure. It kind of
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: looks like two pyramids onto the left of it. And
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: then another structure, which almost seems like it has geometry.
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: Underneath that, you see the blur? That looks like obfuscation. Directly,
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: you know, if you go back up to that top right.
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: Top right? Yeah, top right B. Okay, you see that
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: where his hand is? Now move to the left going
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: down slowly. See that go back up again? See that
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: where his hand is over right now? It looks like obfuscation.
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: Sometimes you can take these images and put them into
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: Photoshop and take away the contrast, and all of a
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: sudden structures pop right out. But right above that, you
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: see those shadows of those pyramid structures?
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: Right above that.
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you see those pyramids? You can see this dark shadow.
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: I see two lines.
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: Well, I see the arrow that's pointing to that one
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: straight line, and then I see what looks like two
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: superimposed arrows.
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: Okay, do you see?
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, those things.
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: Okay, yeah.
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: Those are superimposed, right?
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: No, those are shadows.
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: But look, those are the same things that are in
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: the bottom. Aren't they just pointing at something? Aren't those pointers?
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: I think they may be highlighting something. Right.
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: I think it's a cursor mark or something. So I
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: see what they're pointing to. They're pointing to that thing
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: in the upper right-hand corner that kind of looks like
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: a pyramid.
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah. You see that right there?
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah. It kind of looks like a pyramid.
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: It's cleaned up a little bit there in C. C
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: is more clean. But those things don't look like they
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: belong there.
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: Well, it's hard to tell.
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's hard to tell. That pyramid right there is
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: very famous. That's a very old image. That's on the moon.
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: There should be a link to that. There's a lot
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: of that. That particular one's been around for years and
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: years and years. It's kind of hard to think that
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: that would form by natural. Now, what happens is we're
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: not saying we know exactly what these things are. We're
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: just saying that we feel like they don't belong there.
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: Jamie, go back to that image that you were just
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: looking at, the thing that looked like a pyramid. That one, yeah. Yeah.
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: Get that one big.
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: Hmm.
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: That one's crazy. Yeah. That one's very strange looking. Because
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: the way it points at the top and has flat sides,
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: you're like, yeah. If that's real, that's interesting.
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: That's all that is, by any chance?
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: That's a good question.
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: There's a measuring tool. We don't have it, obviously, access
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: to it right here. It seems so flat on us.
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: But there is a measuring tool. You can see the shadow,
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: which gives you an idea of the height.
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: I'd like to see it in real life, though.
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: Like, sometimes things fuck with you. But the angle is
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: so unnatural looking.
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely looks unnatural. We just try to catalog things
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: that appear to be anomalies, things that appear to be
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: out of place.
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: Right. It could be anything.
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: And in the Sumerian Tabitha, there's this time where Enlil
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: takes his son to the moon. And he says, well,
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: grab your eagle's mask because you're going to need it.
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: They were referencing that the atmosphere was harsh. Oh. So
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: when you see the Anunnaki with the eagle's head, that's
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: actually their helmet. It's a helmet.
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: So they could breathe their air.
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: Exactly. They talk about it twice, once to go to
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: the moon and the second time to go to Mars.
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And there's been other depictions of ancient gods and
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: people that look like they're wearing some kind of mask, too.
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: Right. Yeah, exactly.
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: I mean, one of the cooler ones is the bubble
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: space head looking guys in the cave. Yes. And you're like,
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: what did you guys see?
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: Like, what did you guys see in the middle of
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: like hunting gazelles, trying to stay alive, trying to make
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: a fire, and then you decided to draw that thing?
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: What is that?
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: And we know they can draw because they can show
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: you what a gazelle is. They can show you what
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: cattle is. They can show you what a person looks like. Yes, yes.
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: But then they draw that and you have to think, well, why? Right.
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: Why is that the only thing you drew that's fake? Right.
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: Exactly. Is that time to waste?
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: And it looks like a dude in a suit with
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: a helmet on.
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: And here's the question. How many different things are visiting us?
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: And from how many different places?
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: Oh, a lot.
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: We can't just think everything's going to look exactly the same.
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: That seems just as silly as thinking that all of
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: our animals should look exactly the same. Correct.
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: I think we have three different levels of visitation going
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: on simultaneously. One is corporeal beings in the physical body,
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: most likely anatomically similar to us, a bilateral, bipedal organism
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: with two forward-facing eyes, maybe one or two sets of hands.
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: Do you think it's what we eventually become? Is that
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: what they are?
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: It's possible that maybe we already are them. Just, you know,
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: Earth could be an abandoned sea colony. Every culture that
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: I've talked to indigenously around the planet, all say they
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: were seeded on this planet by Pleiadians or other beings,
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: star brothers in various different places.
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: Like the Dogons.
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: Like the Dogons, the Nomo, the Hopi and the Lakota tribe,
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: the star brothers. The aboriginal elders say that they were
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: seeded here by Pleiadians. All of a sudden, why is
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: everybody having the same story that we were brought here?
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: We could be genetically, I don't believe we're even from Earth,
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: to be quite honest with you. Our psychotic rhythm doesn't
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: even match Earth's rotation on its axis. We're slightly off.
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: It's actually better tuned to Mars orbit on its rotation
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: on its own axis. What do you mean?
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: How does that work?
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: The psychotic rhythm of a human body, the wake and
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: sleep cycle, is actually more tuned to Mars rotation on
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: its own axis, a Mars day versus an Earth day.
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: Which is pretty weird that we aren't synced to our
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: own planet after all these thousands, maybe hundreds of thousands
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: of years. Is that the same as our circadian rhythm?
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: Circadian rhythm, right.
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: So how do they calculate it's more tuned to Mars?
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: How does that work?
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: Well, it's just geneticists and scientists discovered that our perfect
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: wake and sleep cycle is more tuned to Mars rotation
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: on its axis, which is about 23 and something minute
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: hours versus Earth being 24 hours. And so they said, wow,
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: this is incredible. And the more they tested it and
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: the more they studied it, they realized we're more tuned
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: to the Mars than we are to Earth, which is
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: pretty strange.
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: We are weird. We accept shit like leap year. Right.
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: Like what kind of whack calendar do you have?
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: Here's makeup stuff.
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: If some years the month is longer, what the fuck
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: are you doing?
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: Make a better calendar. Isn't there a better calendar? Yeah.
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: Shouldn't there be like a digital calendar that represents exactly
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: what's going on and not go January, February? Come on.
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: Get the fuck out of here.
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: It's so dumb. It's pretty bizarre. But you know what's interesting?
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: If you want to say, oh, human beings could be aliens. Well, actually,
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: every person on this planet is an alien. Even our
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: planet itself is an alien. Scientists just discovered something interesting.
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: I've never talked about this yet on a podcast. You
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: guys can look this up. So our Milky Way galaxy...
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: is pretty interesting because it's absorbing another galaxy at this
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: exact moment called the Sagittarius dwarf galaxy. Not the Sagittarius constellation.
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: That's something totally different. We are absorbing the Sagittarius dwarf
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: galaxy at this exact moment. People thought for all these decades,
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: looking over even hundreds of years, looking up in the
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: night sky, seeing that swath of stars going across, that's
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: the Milky Way. Guess what? We've been wrong the whole time.
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: This is now being taught in universities in astrophysics. So
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: what you're looking at, you're looking at the absorption or
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: the merging of the Sagittarius with the Milky Way galaxy.
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: And the exact point where it merges and drops into
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: the Milky Way is right where our solar system is located,
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: which would explain the rogue planets that we know that
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: are out there. There's millions of rogue planets that have
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: no sun. They're just floating free around. There's planets and
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: solar systems that are orbiting far beyond the orbit of
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: Pluto in our inner Oort cloud, admitted by astronomers now,
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: that there's other solar systems within this inner Oort cloud
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: area orbiting our sun to be 4,200 years. So all
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: of a sudden, that's Corey Powell, the astronomer at Discovery Magazine,
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: by the way, who said that. So this is pretty interesting.
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: We're talking about the fact that our solar system itself
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: is an implant into the Milky Way, that we come
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: from Sagittarius. We're not even part of the Milky Way galaxy.
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: Whoa. Okay. So when they're looking at our own solar system,
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: they have an understanding that there's a thing called the
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: Kuiper Belt that's out there, and there's so many objects
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: in there that are small, and that's one of the
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: reasons why they decided to declassify Pluto as a planet,
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: because there's other objects real similar in size.
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Machi Machi and all those other planets.
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: But they think there's something large out there. They think
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: there's something large out there that they haven't yet identified
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: because of the way that gravity is responding. What is
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: the reason for it?
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: Well, what happens is they discovered that in some way,
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: millions of years ago, something moved through our solar system
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: and captured its own weird orbit around our sun. And
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: what's crazy is the evidence is in our solar system.
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: So Saturn and Neptune switch locations. because of a gravitational field.
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: Uranus has flipped on its side and orbits its equator.
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: It's orbiting north and south, not east and west. And
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: they know that.
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: Like it got hit.
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: Like it got hit or something gravitationally just tugged at
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: it so hard that it flipped sideways.
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: It never stops.
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: Never stopped. And it moved through our solar system way
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: out beyond the orbit of Pluto, and this thing captured
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: its own orbit. This is in the Enuma Elysian, the
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: seven tables of creation. This exact process that's been described
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: now by astrophysicists and astronomers... is an ancient text that
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: we can read and we can see, oh my God,
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: this is exactly what this text is saying. It's talking
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: about the creation of our solar system. It even talks
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: about the creation of Earth in that text. It says
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: that when Marduk, a.k.a. Nibiru, a moon of Nibiru, crashed
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: into Tiamat, it broke into pieces and became the hammer
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: and bracelet. That's the asteroid belt. One giant chunk swung away,
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: recoalesced with everything, water, land, and organic material needed for life,
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: and became the Earth, tugging with it the moon. So,
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: It's pretty crazy that the creation of this planet itself,
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: and it says that it pushed, the net force pushed
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: Mercury closer to the sun and pushed Venus closer to
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: the sun. And then we took the third spot in
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: place around our orbit, around our sun. And then, of course,
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: we have Mars, which used to be a moon, a
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: habitable moon of Tiamat, a planet that was four to
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: six times larger than Earth. And it slung into this
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: crazy orbit. That's why Mars has this weird orbit. And
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: you have to You have to rendezvous with it if
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: you're NASA or anybody trying to rendezvous with Mars every
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: two years doing this in apogee or perigee. You have to,
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: with apogee or perigee, one of them is further away
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: than the other. One is 80 million miles and the
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: other one's closer. So if you rendezvous every two years,
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: you can capture the orbit of Mars and you can
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: actually get there in four months. And then they looked
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: at it and said, wow, they, meaning astrophysicists, this looks
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: like this Mars wasn't originally in this type of orbit.
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: It must have been orbiting something else in our solar system,
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: which it was. One side is charred black and the
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: other side is smooth. So the side where Tiamat exploded,
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: those chunks hit Mars on one side, created a very
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: charred side, and the other side is a smooth surface
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: in the solar system, which is because of the global
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: flood that that created. And then Mars' axis on its
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: equator is tilted 45 degrees on its axis, which means
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: the mass shifted it down 45 degrees. They had a
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: major global catastrophe there on Mars. And then after Mars,
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: you have another little planet that survived called Ceres, C-E-R-E-S,
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: which is also a result of this Tiamat exploding. People
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: don't even talk about Ceres. It has the most fresh
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: water out of any other planet in our solar system.
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: And where is its location? That's the next planet after Mars, Ceres.
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: Really?
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: C-E-R-E-S.
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: How big is it?
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: Is it like Pluto-sized? It's about maybe two-thirds smaller than Mars.
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: And guess what?
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: It's a dwarf planet, so they don't. It falls in
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: orbit between Mars and Jupiter near the middle of the
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: asteroid belt with an orbital period. Click on that, Jamie.
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: When they flew by it. You heard about this before?
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: I didn't know there was another planet out there.
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: Listen, when they flew by it a few years ago,
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: the lights were on. They sent a probe out there.
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: What?
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: The lights were on. And so they tried to say
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: it was ice particles glistening in the sunlight. So when
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: they got to the dark side, guess what? The lights
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: were on on the dark side. So they couldn't use
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: the ice particle explanation anymore. So they just said, we
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: don't know what it is.
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: What? Siri's small size means that even at its brightest,
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: it's too dim to be seen by the naked eye,
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: except under extremely dark skies. Its apparent magnitude ranges from 6.7
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: to 9.3, peaking in opposition when it's closest to Earth.
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: Once every 15 to 16 months in, how do you
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: say that word? Synodic? Synodic?
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: I don't know where you're at now.
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: 16th month synodic period.
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, synodic.
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: Synodic period. As a result, its surface features are barely
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: visible even with the most powerful telescopes, and little was
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: known about it until the robotic NASA spacecraft Dawn approached
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: Ceres for its orbital mission in 2015.
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: And we have high-resolution images of the surface. There are
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: strange things there as well, which is pretty crazy.
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: What are the images of the surface?
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: You have to go to NASA.gov and go to the
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: Dawn images, and you can download, or sometimes the European
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: Space Agency has them as well, ES. And then you
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: can grab those images. It's pretty crazy. Some things just
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: don't look right there.
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: What doesn't look right?
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: Well, if you look at Mohenjandaro or areas of Egypt
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: or even Iraq where it used to be Samaria, structures
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: that used to be there that are now worn down
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: and weathered, They have similar looks there, similar things. They
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: look similar there. Not saying that they are. I'm just
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: saying that they look strange. Some things look strange.
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: We have a lot of strange things on Earth that
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: are natural.
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: That's true. We sure do. We even have octagons and
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: straight lines on Earth that are natural as well.
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: That was one of the craziest ones that Terrence brought
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: up was the octagon on Saturn.
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: Was it Saturn?
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Saturn. Saturn. Saturn.
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: That when you look at the octagon on Saturn, it's
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: mimicked in the model that they've created by using... The whole...
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: idea that he really blew my mind with was the
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: Goldilocks zone idea. That planets reach a certain distance from
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: the sun and that's when life starts happening. And this
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: is a normal force that happens everywhere in the universe.
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: And as time goes on, that planet's going to get
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: further and further from the sun. And then it's going
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: to lose its ability to do that. And then a
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: new planet will move into the Goldilocks zone. And that
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: is also going to become like us. And then, so
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: if you are following this idea, if this idea makes sense,
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: it means that This is just this sort of natural
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: process that these intelligent creatures go through. And even though
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: we're looking at, like, AI and we're looking at technology,
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: it's like, oh, my God, we can't even be people anymore. Well,
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: guess what? We can't be people anymore because we're not
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: going to make it if we don't. There's a timeline.
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: It seems like you're only going to live 100 years,
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: so it's no big deal. But humans, if we keep going, like,
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: a few million years, we're going to have a real problem.
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: A billion years from now, we're not going to be
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: around anymore.
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: No.
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: And then there's going to come a time where the
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: sun doesn't exist anymore.
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: Exactly.
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: So if you get so intelligent that you can escape
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: the boundaries of the physical world and you can move
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: throughout the cosmos wherever you want, then you've escaped.
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: You've escaped this fear. But it's almost like there's an
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: intelligent test.
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: An intelligence test that life goes through. Like we're going
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: to give you all the tools just like you're in
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: the womb. You're in the womb of Mother Earth. We're
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: going to give you all the tools. But you've got
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: to get out of the house.
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: At a certain point in time, you've got to get
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: out of the house. You're 24. You're still living at home.
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: Get the fuck out of the house.
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: They're waiting for us to grow up. Yeah. Human beings
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: are like babies right now as a civilization trying to
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: learn how to walk. And right now we're barely crawling.
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: And then we plop down on our stomach and everybody
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: screams and cries. But we're getting to the point eventually
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: where we'll go to the edge of a table and
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: pull ourselves up. And then we'll take a couple of
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: steps and then we'll fall again. Everybody will think it's
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: all over. Oh, my God, we were doing so good
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: and it collapsed again. But no, that's just a fall.
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: The baby will pull itself back up, it'll cry less,
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: and it'll take more steps until it falls again, until
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: it can get this controlled fall. And that's the definition
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: of walking, controlling your fall. So we're in that process now.
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: Like you said, this is a proving ground for us
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: to be able to develop consciously, spiritually, ascend to higher levels.
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: And eventually, I believe, I'm pretty optimistic for mankind that
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: we will get through this period.
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: Well, that's a beautiful thing to hear. I love when
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: people are optimistic, because I'm always like, I don't know
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: which way to go. I tend to be optimistic.
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: Well, you know, it proves what these ancient beings were doing.
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: They were creating breakaway civilizations throughout the entire Milky Way
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: galaxy because of what you just said. The fact that,
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: you know, planets won't be habitable forever. Even Earth. Let's
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: say Earth never moved and stayed right where it's at
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: in the Goldilocks zone. We're going to lose our control
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: over the weather because the moon is moving away at
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: a few centimeters every single year. And as the moon
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: backs off of Earth, our weather patterns are going to
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: get more hectic and chaotic and the wobble is going
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: to be uncontrollable. to the point where life won't be
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: able to exist, not our kind of life won't be
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: able to exist on this planet. So just losing the
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: moon alone in a few million years is going to
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: destroy us. So we have to create breakaway civilizations. We
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: have to get out of here, which is what all
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: these other advanced civilizations in these ancient texts have done.
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: Well, it only makes sense if Terence is correct about
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: this idea of the Goldilocks zone, it only makes sense.
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: And if there are other planets somewhere in another galaxy
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: or ours that have the same exact sort of features. water,
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: the same temperature, the same mixture of amino acids and
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: whatever the hell else is here that makes life. And
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: then it happens there too. It just makes sense that
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: some places are going to be more stable. So they're
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: going to have less natural disasters. So like people will
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: evolve faster and longer. They'll, they'll exist longer. But then,
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: you know, there's the argument that the natural disasters are
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: actually good because the natural disasters knock us back down
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: and If we're about to destroy everything, knock us back
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: down to some much more primitive version of ourselves, and
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: then we have to rebuild society again over thousands of years,
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: which to the universe is a blink of an eye.
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: That's a blink of an eye. You're right. That's exactly
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: what happened in the Emerald Talbots. You know, 36,000 years ago, Thoth,
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: he arrives in this place called the Land of Khem,
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: ancient Khemit before it was known as Egypt. His father
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: sent them on a mission to rebuild civilization back up
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: to a higher level, meaning that it already was at
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: a higher level prior to this flood situation. And he
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: says he gets into the great ship of the master
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: and he takes off into the sky until the earth disappears.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: And then he goes to the appointed and he sees
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: beneath him the children of the land of Kim. And
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: he descends down. He doesn't sail in. He descends down.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: And when his ship lands, he opens his doors and
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: he comes out with his crew. And he says the
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: barbarians came at him to attack him with kludgels and spears.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: He says, I raised my staff and sent out a
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: ray of vibrations, stopping him still as fragments of stone
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: of the mountain. So he had a stun gun. He
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: had a weapon that was not lethal, non-lethal weapon that
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: can freeze you in your tracks. And we have something
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: just like that now in the military called the active
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: denial system. They can send a beam at a crowd
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: coming to attack and make them stop still right in
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: their tracks. They can make you feel like you're on fire.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: make you feel like you want to vomit. They can
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: even put voices in your head. They can make you
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 2: be in extreme, extreme pain. It's called the active denial system.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: So he's talking about technology back then that we have
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: right now.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: Dude, look up that. Do you think that's what that
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: Havana syndrome thing is?
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: It's possible, man. This thing, if you put it above,
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: like in the sky, and aim it at an area
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: and it beam spreads a little bit, you can create
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: mass illness, mass sickness, mass hysteria. You can have everyone
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: running around thinking that they've got Somebody talking to them
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 2: and commanding them to do certain things. It's out of control.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: This weapon can be fully weaponized in a lethal way.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: In a way that can make people become psychotic. You
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: can make somebody think they're burning it on fire.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: Whoa. Active denial system demo. Can we listen to what
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: this guy's saying?
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 5: It can deter individuals on a military perimeter... All the
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 5: way up to a riotous crowd. All without permanent harm.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 4: It only penetrates one-sixth of a fourth of an inch
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 4: of your skin.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: It goes very shallow into where your nerve receptors are.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 2: They can't take the pain. Whoa.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: And there's no permanent injury caused by it. So what
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: does it do to them?
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: It's on a frequency, a beam of frequency, just like
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: Thoth says in the Emerald Tablets. I put this in
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: my book because it's important.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 5: They didn't let any of the guests volunteer to test
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 5: out its effectiveness and safety, including the Assistant Commandant of
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 5: the Marine.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: Corps, Sergeant Major of the Marine Corps, and.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 5: Assistant Secretary of the Navy. Most described it as feeling
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 5: like a hot oven or grill being opened up.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: Wow! So that's what he used on them. Thousands of
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: years ago.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: Holy shit.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: Or something like it. 2012?
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh, now they turned you into a statue.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. Absolutely.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: Now it's over. And Medusa. Yeah. Medusa.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: Holy shit.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: Same technology.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: What do you think Medusa was?
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: Frequency technology.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: Imagine that. Imagine that story. We always thought that was
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: just some crazy story.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: But imagine there's a technology back then that can actually
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: turn you into stone. Right. Now that we know that
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: people can do things like that, and then we would
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: imagine 1,000 years of evolution, 10,000, 500,000, whatever these people are,
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: whatever these things are that have the ability. It's kind
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: of disappointing that they're still waging war, though. I've got
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: to tell you that.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's crazy.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: That's a bummer.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: That's a real archaic mindset. We have to find a
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: way to rise above. This is why we need to
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 2: understand exactly what happened and how do we overcome what's
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: been embedded into our epigenetic memories because we're suffering from
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: epigenetic mental hysteria. which is psychosis and this war psychosis.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: We've been programmed as human beings to have consumption and
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: fighting and competition over collaboration. Everything is designed to keep
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: us separate. Dividing conquer is the main mission and it
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 2: works so well for so many thousands of years. And
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 2: this divide and conquer tactic that's been burnt into our
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: DNA and our code has put us in a situation
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 2: where we are not advancing as we should be. We're
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: getting now this technology leaked out to us. And yes,
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: that's advancing pretty fast, but consciously and spiritually, It's holding
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: us back because everyone's putting themselves in boxes and saying,
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 2: I'm a part of this thing and I'm a part
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: of that thing. And then we don't work together.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: No, that's such an important point. And it needs to
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: be drilled into people's heads. We're distracting ourselves by getting
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: involved in these stupid arguments over stupid things. There's really
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: important issues with the world. And those aren't being addressed.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: And one of the big ones is how do you
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: stop people from killing each other? How do you stop war?
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: How do we stop this insane practice of having groups
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: of people go up against groups of people they'd never
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: even met and killing them.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: Exactly.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: And then we're all okay with this. We talk about
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: how this is normal and this has to be done
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: and war is ugly and it's unfortunate, but we have
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: to do it. Like, okay, are you fucking sure? Who's
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: pulling the strings here?
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 2: People with $ 10, 000 suits that don't get on the front line.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: They send poor kids and young kids, young men and
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: women to die.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 2: And, you know, it's all about money.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: It's all about money. Exactly. You know, Smedley Butler wrote
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: about it in 1933. War is a racket. Yeah.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: That's right.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: You read that. Read that from 1933, folks. And this
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: was a general who– was he a general?
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: He was a general.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: What was his rank?
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah. General.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: He was retiring, and he wrote this piece about how
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: he thought he was preserving democracy. He was really just
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: making the place safe for bankers.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: It's an ugly business that Eisenhower tried to warn us
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: about in his leaving from office speech.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 2: That's right.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: When he stepped down or when he was no longer
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: the president, he left office and gave a speech about
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: warning about the military industrial complex and its influence.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 2: He sure did.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: And I don't think they knew back then that people
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: would be able to have YouTube and just watch that.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: And if that's how they did it back then, imagine
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: how good they are at it now.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: Oh, man, they're masters at neuroscience. Applying neuroscience to the
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 2: general population, they are masters at it. And they know
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 2: how to get into the psyche of a human being,
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 2: and they know how to turn us against each other
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 2: while they themselves chop it all up. Like I always say,
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: there is no Democrat or Republican. It doesn't exist. The
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: only thing that exists is a group of elite oligarchs
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: that torture men, women, and children worldwide. That exists. They
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 2: capitalize and monetize us and they put their boot on
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 2: our neck. But to think that there's a left wing
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 2: and a right wing, I think it's the same bird.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah. It's all just money.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: It's all money. And they use social issues, whatever they are,
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: whether it's Christianity or abortion rights or whatever it is.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: They just use those. It's like little moves that they
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: put in their little game.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: And really what it's about is enriching themselves and staying
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: in power. And the best way to stay in power
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: is control narratives and control influence and make people believe
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: a very specific thing and drill it into their head.
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: But the problem is, like, I think human beings are
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: more awake now than ever before, and they know this
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: game now. At least a large number of us know
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: this game.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 2: It's shifting so fast. It's shifting, like, incredibly fast, which
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 2: is great. How old are you, Billy? I'll be 53
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: in September.
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: You look great.
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 2: Thanks, man.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: So you and I are basically close to the same age.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 2: I'm 56.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: And when we were kids, this version of the world
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: was never discussed. You'd have to be a complete kook
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: to think that money is why wars are started. Oh,
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: come on. No one would ever do that.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: You would be a complete kook to think that the
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: pharmaceutical drug companies lie about their drugs. What are you
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: talking about? They can't do that. They would be arrested.
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: You'd be a kook.
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: And now... Especially after the pandemic, that's how everybody feels.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: And watching these wars go on between Ukraine and Russia
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: and Palestine and Israel, you're like, what the fuck is
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: going on?
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 2: In the 21st century, this is still happening right now.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: In large scale. And people are having debate over the
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: acceptable amount of numbers of women and children that are
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: allowed to die in a war.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: Right. It's insane. It's insanity. Earth is, you know, partly
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: is a giant mental facility. Mental health is a major
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 2: issue on this planet. When a person can look at
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: someone and say they deserve to die because of their
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: beliefs or their non-belief, that's a major problem. That's a
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 2: sign of mental illness.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: It's also a sign of like a spoiled child. It's
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: almost like we skipped the line, right? We didn't really
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: do– we didn't pay our dues to become people. We
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: got turned into people. You're right. Because if– anthropologists are
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: looking at chimpanzees now and they're looking at them saying
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: they're entering into the Stone Age. Like they're using tools now. Now,
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: if you watch that same chimpanzee and you went a
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: few million years in the future, who knows what it
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: looks like? It probably looks like an upward-looking human that
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: has much more intricate tools. Who knows if it's created
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: stone weapons, structures, houses. They may develop a language. You
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: could watch chimpanzees over the course of evolution, but that's
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: too slow. And so if you were another highly intelligent
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: being for another planet, you're like they're going to get there.
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 2: Give them a little push.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: Give them a little something.
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 2: And the evidence of that is in some tablets called
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 2: the Myth of Adapa, which means first man. The Myth
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 2: of Adapa, an ancient Sumerian text. It's a tablet. And
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: in this tablet, you can buy the book Myth of
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 2: Adapa on Amazon. You can read it for yourself, completely
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 2: translate it. And translated by scholars, by the way. And
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 2: it's talking about the fact that according to the Anunnaki,
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 2: human beings were created in a way that genetically we
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 2: were supposed to become more superior than them. They didn't
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 2: know this was going to happen. And Lil was angry
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 2: at his brother Enki because Enki put a little extra
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 2: in the sauce. Yeah, a little extra. And he said
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 2: that the mysteries to unlock the secrets of the universe
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 2: is hidden within our bodies and that we ourselves can
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: rise to be even higher than them. This was a
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: major thing to be putting into text like this. Now,
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: who sits around and writes this?
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: That sounds insane. How do they specifically describe that?
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 2: They describe it just like that. It says that human
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 2: beings or man, we call man, Adapa, Adapa was created
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: to be even higher than us. And that all the
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 2: secrets of the universe, the mysteries are within our body.
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 2: And I believe that because when I started studying DNA,
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 2: that took me into a whole DNA study. I discovered
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 2: this scientist called George Church, and he created this e-book
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: that he was able to take from a digital format,
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: and he was able to download it onto one drop,
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 2: one gram of DNA, a digital book. He converted it
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 2: from A's, C's, T's, and G's, from zeros and ones,
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, he converted it from zeros and ones into A's, C's, T's,
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 2: and G's, read, write, put it on the DNA. Then
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 2: he said, wow, this is incredible. DNA can store information
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 2: in a volume. Then he said, okay, this is what
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 2: we're going to do. Let's replicate this book. So he
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 2: replicated the book 80 billion times on one gram of DNA.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 2: And this is not just a regular e-book. This book
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 2: had graphics and images and everything else in it. So
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 2: then he said, let's see if we can get it back.
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 2: So he converted, he created a read-write again. He converted
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 2: it from A's, C's, T's, and G's back to zeros
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 2: and ones and uploaded it back to the server. So
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 2: now he knows that DNA can upload and download information.
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: Crazy.
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 2: Crazy. So now they said, okay, well, how much data
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 2: can be stored on one drop? Over 433 petabytes of data.
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 2: A petabyte is 1,000 terabytes.
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: What an unfortunate name.
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 2: I know, right? I know. That's a crazy name. I
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 2: was like, why did y'all name it this? Petabyte. But anyway.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: But anyway. That's so insane.
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 2: Now they discovered recently on holmium atoms, scientists have now
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 2: written information data onto an individual holmium atom. And they
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 2: discovered that we can store information they can read right
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 2: directly onto the surface of an actual atom. Now, think
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 2: about that for a second.
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: Oh, my God.
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 2: So they're saying that a human body can store 13.5
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 2: billion years or roughly of data, which is roughly around
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 2: the time they believe the universe probably exists. So that
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 2: myth of Adapa text could be accurate. The secrets of
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 2: the universe is probably encoded into our body because we're
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 2: just recycled atoms.
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: Right. And then as we evolve technologically and biologically, we
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: develop a higher and higher ability to access that information.
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 2: Exactly. That's exactly what it is. The longer we go,
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 2: the more we're able to tap in to this information,
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 2: tap into who we truly are. We'll begin to walk
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 2: in our power, look inside, go to inner space, not
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 2: outer space. We'll begin to tap into this. And they
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 2: discovered now that junk DNA is no longer junk. They're
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 2: taking the term junk off of it, that it really
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 2: has functioned. It always had function. It was never junk.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 2: That's just a word to keep us programmed to thinking
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 2: that we're junk.
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: Well, I think it was a way for them to
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: explain something that they couldn't explain. Right.
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 2: But when you use the word junk, if you understand affirmations,
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 2: I would never call myself junk. So that's a weird
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 2: way to do it. But now they're finding out that that's,
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 2: you know, and again, in the myth of Adapa, it's
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 2: saying that we're going to tap into this. So I
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 2: believe that all of our innate abilities that we used
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 2: to have are going to start to come back over time.
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 2: like accessing Earth's magnetic field with the magnetite crystals in
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 2: our brains. We all have billions of magnetite crystals in
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 2: our brains, and they put a guy into a laboratory,
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 2: and they put a giant bar magnet and moved it
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 2: around the room, and they put an EEG cap on
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 2: him and a scanner, and they saw that they were
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 2: orienting themselves to the magnetic field. So we still have
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 2: the ability to navigate magnetic fields. We just don't even
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 2: know it. We're unaware of it.
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: Well, we know it exists in animals.
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so we have it in our body as well.
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 2: So all these things are going to begin to come back.
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: There's another... There's so little true understanding of like how
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: birds migrate, like how they all know when to do it.
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: What is calling them? What a very specific direction. Are
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: they using landmarks on the ground? Are they just using
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: some sort of a magnetic field? Are they just tuned
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: in to where the North Pole is? What are they doing?
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah. How are they doing it?
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: What is the organ that's allowing them to do it? Yeah.
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 1: is that something that humans have? And we just, we,
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: it went away just like I can't remember anybody's phone
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: number anymore.
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 2: Right. I used to have so many phone numbers in
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 2: my head. We had to have them because we're, you know,
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 2: we're 70s babies. Yeah. I'm a 60s baby. Yeah, I'm 70s, 71.
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 2: But yeah, but what happened was, if you look at
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 2: the tablets again, this is why I love these tablets, man.
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 2: They talk about the fact that, you know, they had
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 2: created this, this being, not created from scratch, but genetically modified.
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 2: They add their essence to it is what they say,
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 2: added our essence. So, By adding the essence, you can
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 2: see where all of a sudden maybe our ancestors were
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 2: in tune with the magnetic field and were able to
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 2: communicate psychopathically. Maybe even had telekinesis and these other innate
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 2: abilities weren't technologically advanced but maybe more spiritually advanced. And
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 2: they tinkered with us and took away our memory, took
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 2: away our ability to tap into that so we can
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 2: focus solely on them. Hmm.
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: I guess if you were going to, you know, have
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: you ever seen the movie Prometheus?
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: When the alien dies and its DNA goes into the water?
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 1: If you were going to play a real long game
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 1: and seed life in the universe, and then you were
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: going to, I mean, especially with us, you were going
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 1: to create something that's very sophisticated and encode inside of
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: it enough information that they could figure out everything.
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: It's just going to take time. So you have to
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: earn this information, but it's in there. Mm-hmm. It's such
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: a compelling theory. The problem is I get so wrapped
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 1: up in these that I hope they're true. And when
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: I hope they're true, I stop thinking critically. Because I'm like,
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: that's the most fun. It's the most fun to think
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: that we were created by aliens. It's the most fun
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 1: to think there's a base on the north side of
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: the moon. But the undeniable stuff that, to me, is
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: equally compelling, I think, even than the aliens, is like, how...
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: Did they make the pyramids? Like, who did that? Who
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: did that? And what's that? What was that culture like? Like,
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 1: if I could go one place, I would go to Egypt,
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 1: Giza when it's thriving, when it's thriving, whatever. I don't
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 1: even know what the number is. You know, I don't
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: know if it's a John Anthony West number or if
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 1: it's a. a more conventional number of 4,000, whatever it is.
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: Just get me there. Let me see what that was.
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: What were you guys doing? How the fuck did you
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 1: make that thing? How did you get those stones from
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: 500 miles away? How did you cut them so perfectly?
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: How did you get them all the way up in
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 1: the ceiling of this giant king's chamber? What was that
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: damn thing? Why did it have a gold cap on
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: the top? What did you guys do? How did you
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: make the gold cap? What did you guys do?
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 2: It's wild. I go with the John Anthony West theory.
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 2: I'm closer to his timeframes.
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 2: Rest in peace, John Anthony West.
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 1: He was amazing.
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 2: Amazing man.
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, Magical Egypt, folks. I think there's two versions
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: of the video series that you can get online. Go
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: find it. It's incredible. The first one I watched like
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 1: 10 times.
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: I was like, this is just the, I mean, forget
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: about speculation. Forget about timelines. Just the undeniable majesty of
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 1: the construction of, of those structures and the statues and
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: what they built. I was like, my God, like nothing else.
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 1: Like nothing else in the world. No one's even a
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 1: distant second place. Egypt can just stand above all of it.
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 1: And it was so long ago.
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's super ancient. And what I like about Jonathan West,
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 2: his theory aligns with the Admiral Talbot's date range. Because
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 2: when he talks about the Great Sphinx being built two
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 2: processional periods back, it takes it back to around 36,000, 38,000
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 2: years ago, around the same time that Thoth claims to
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 2: have written the Emerald Tablets. And in these tablets, he
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 2: talks about building the Great Pyramid. He said, build it, I,
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 2: the Great Pyramid, patterned after Earth's force, so that it
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 2: too might remain through the ages. So he claims to
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 2: be the master architect of the structure of the Great Pyramid.
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 2: And what he did was he incorporated into it advanced science.
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 2: It's not just a power generator.
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 1: It's also.
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 2: In my opinion, it also could be a multifunctional stone computer, okay?
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 2: And this thing calculates the orbits of the planets in
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 2: the inner solar system, which is crazy.
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 1: How does it do that?
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 2: Well, if I have some, can I open up this
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 2: and just read some notes?
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 2: I got some incredible notes that I did. Some math
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 2: that I did years ago.
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 1: I'm amazed at how much you don't need notes. There's
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 1: a few people that come on this podcast that blow
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: me away without notes.
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 2: I'm like, Terrence is one of them. Yeah, he's one
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 2: of them, yeah. Rhonda Patrick, she's another one of them.
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 2: I just want to get the numbers exact, you know?
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 2: So one thing, the equatorial circumference of the Earth can
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 2: be calculated by the Great Pyramid because the Great Pyramid
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 2: itself is 1 by 43,200 scaled down. So if you
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 2: take the Great Pyramid and scale it up 43,200 times,
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 2: it fits directly inside the sphere of the Earth and
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 2: it touches the equator.
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 1: So meaning the dimensions of how the angles of it
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 1: would fit inside of a sphere.
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 2: Inside of a sphere. It's a representation of the Earth
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 2: in a pyramidal format. Okay? That's crazy. And if you
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 2: multiply that by the base perimeter, you get 24,734.94 miles,
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 2: which is roughly within 170 miles of the circumference of
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 2: the planet Earth itself.
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: Okay?
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 2: Which is wild. You can also calculate the speed of
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 2: the Earth around the sun. So the Great Pyramid Basically,
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 2: you take a pyramid inch times 10 to the eighth power.
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 2: It equals the speed of Earth around the sun. That's wild.
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 1: The problem with these kind of calculations is Flint Dibble
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 1: made note of this, that you could take that and
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 1: you could do that with a lot of different things. Like,
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 1: what was the one he used for 420?
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 4: 420 and 69.
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 1: He did a bunch of different funny ones.
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 2: 420, oh, weed day? Yeah, the weed day, yeah.
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 1: He was explaining how you take these arbitrary procession of
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 1: the equinox numbers, and you could multiply them times, like,
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 1: whatever you want, and you could get a bunch of
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 1: different results, like, based on what you wanted the result
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 1: to be, not based on the actual calculations.
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 2: Some of them are hard to do. Check this out.
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 2: Forget about multiplying things. What about taking the fact that
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 2: the pyramid, the Great Pyramid, is located at the center
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 2: of land mass on Earth? Not the center of the Earth.
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 2: the center of land mass. Now, the only way you
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 2: can put the pyramid at the center of land mass
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 2: is you have to have a polar orbiting satellite. If
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 2: we were to do it today, a polar orbiting satellite
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 2: that's orbiting this way, and as Earth spins on its axis,
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 2: you're taking swaths of data, and you're calculating the land mass,
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 2: and then you're going to say, okay, this is the
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 2: center point for land mass, and you put it there.
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 1: So the center point for landmass being you take the
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 1: surface of the Earth, what percentage of it is covered
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 1: with water, where the ground is, and then you find
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 1: the center of where the most ground is, and that's
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 1: where the pyramid is.
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 2: Exactly. The next thing is taking all the average heights
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 2: of all the peaks on Earth and then dividing that
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 2: to get the average height and making that the height
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 2: of the Great Pyramid. Now, you can't just randomly calculate
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 2: those numbers. Okay.
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 1: That's the average height of all the mountains and the
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 1: peaks on Earth?
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 2: That's right.
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 2: That's right, and that's an absolute fact. The Grand Gallery,
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 2: the latitude of the Grand Gallery inside the Great Pyramid
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 2: leading into the King's Chamber, the latitude are the exact
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 2: digits of the speed of light in meters per second.
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 2: You can't just randomly calculate that one.
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 1: Well, you can't just get those stones down. I mean,
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: there's not one thing about it.
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 1: You can get real crazy with numbers and mathematics, but
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 1: there's not one thing about it that's not completely insane.
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 1: Like every single aspect of it is completely insane. The
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: fact that we still will try to pretend today that
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 1: it's not impressive or that it was impressive, but that
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 1: they did it with sand and they did it with like,
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 1: how do you know? You would need more mud. The
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 1: mud ramp theory, you would need more mud in mass
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 1: than the pyramid itself. So that's a farce. The mud thing,
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's like, just show me one.
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 1: Show me one.
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 2: Here's the problem with that mudgram theory. I don't think
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 2: people realize. I take people on tour to the pyramid
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 2: every single year. I take people on a huge tour.
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 2: Last year, we had 140 people on tour in Egypt
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 2: for 12 days or whatever it was. But the pyramid itself,
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 2: each individual stone at the pyramid is a different shape
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 2: and size. There are no two stones that are perfectly
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 2: the same. Each stone fits in an interlocking format. So
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 2: you can't say, go over here and cut these stones.
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 2: We're going to bring them over here and we're going
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 2: to throw up this pyramid. It doesn't work that way.
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 2: Each stone is made individually specifically for the location that
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 2: it's exactly in.
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 1: Because they all have to be at an angle. Because
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 1: they're all going up towards this angle.
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 2: So everyone has to be cut perfect.
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 1: Exactly.
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 2: So they're interlocking stones and there's... There's no way to
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 2: say just cut this cookie cutter out and we're going
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 2: to bring him and hoist him in the spot.
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 1: And all of them are perfect.
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 2: And if you accidentally cut the wrong size or you're
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 2: off by a few inches, you can't make the period.
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 2: You can spend a week or two getting a stone
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 2: to a location that don't fit. It doesn't make any sense.
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 2: They had foreknowledge. People don't take the amount of resources, energy,
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 2: effort that it took to build that structure and then
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 2: guessing that it will work out in the end. You
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 2: only build that if you have a complete blueprint and
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 2: you've got proven facts, right? You have proof of concept
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 2: that it works and you've done this before.
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 1: Now, what do you think about the other pyramids that
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 1: are wonky, like the ones that aren't perfect? Do you
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 1: think that they were trying to duplicate the Great Pyramid?
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 1: Do you think they were trying to make their own?
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 2: The deeper you go into antiquity, the more perfect construction was.
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 2: The further you come forward in time, the more wonky
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 2: and crazy things begin to fall apart.
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 1: So do you think they just forgot how to do it?
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 2: The knowledge was lost. You can see the evidence of
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 2: the knowledge. By the time we got to Alexander the Great,
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 2: have you ever been to Alexandria? No. I thought I
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 2: was going to go see this incredible place. It looks
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 2: like a bunch of crap, a bunch of piled up rocks,
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 2: buildings leaning on each other. Even the people living in
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 2: apartments that are leaning, buildings leaning. Oh, wow. Everything there
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 2: looks just, the stones are small. I could pick up
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 2: those stones with my own hands. They tried to duplicate
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 2: the majesty of ancient Egypt, but they didn't even come close.
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 1: It's just so bizarre that one civilization got so much
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 1: further than everybody else, and no one really knows exactly
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 1: how they did it.
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 2: Right. Light years ahead.
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 1: Now, when you hear the carbon dating of the Great Pyramid,
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 1: what is your take on that? Because the radiocarbon dating
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 1: is 2,500 B.C., right? That's what they think.
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 2: I just don't believe it.
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 1: Why is that?
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 2: Well, first of all, the way that the structure is made,
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 2: if you look at other structures made in that same
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 2: time frame, They don't have the same majesty. They don't
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 2: have the same level of construction. They don't have the
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 2: same capability of withstanding time. So why are these falling
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 2: apart but this one isn't falling apart?
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 1: But that's not necessarily because, look, You could have a
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 1: shitty house today and you could live right next to
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 1: Jeff Bezos' house.
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 2: That's very true.
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's just there's going to be different cultures
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 1: and different abilities and, you know, different craftsmen.
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 2: Within the same region. I'm talking about within the same area.
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but even in the same area, you're always going
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 1: to have people that suck.
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 2: If you look at the subterranean shaft, I don't know
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 2: if you've ever been there. It descends beneath the Great
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 2: Pyramid down into the ground on a specific angle about
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 2: 65 meters deep. And there's another 30-meter drop straight beneath that.
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 1: And this is where Christopher Dunn has hypothesized that there
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 1: was something that was creating a frequency down there, something
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 1: like pounds in the earth creates a very specific frequency
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 1: and a very specific vibration that goes through the entire
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 1: stone structure, which theoretically could work.
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, absolutely.
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 1: And then this whole thing about using different chemicals in
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 1: these shafts that leak through the limestone and that limestone
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 1: is porous and you would have a specific amount of
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 1: thickness with limestone. So you know exactly how much chemicals
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 1: to put in the shafts. And the shafts did exist.
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 1: And they did have openings to them. And they were sealed.
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 1: You could open them up and dump things into them.
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 1: And then the passageway that goes into the king's chamber,
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 1: the so-called king's chamber. And that has opening shafts that
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 1: go to the heavens.
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 2: Yes, they do. And I think I know why. My
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 2: hypothesis on those shafts is you look at the way
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 2: the pyramid is designed, the queen's chamber is— It's technology.
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 2: It seems to be like an electrolysis generating machine to
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 2: extract hydrogen from water. And Chris Dunn had the same,
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 2: pretty close to the same hypothesis I had with that. Now,
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 2: why hydrogen? It's the most abundant element in the universe.
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 2: And right now, today, we try to communicate with ET
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 2: on the hydrogen frequency. Now, those shafts, imagine on certain alignments,
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 2: we know for a fact that that pyramid aligns with
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 2: specific planets or stars. Orion, El Debron, Draco, These alignments.
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 2: And then these shafts would send out this hydrogen frequency,
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 2: potentially on my hypothesis, around those alignments.
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 1: Why?
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 2: For communication purposes. Updates on this breakaway civilization. Because I
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 2: believe there was an ancient galactic war, which I talk
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 2: about on my show, my docuseries, Anunnaki. And this ancient
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 2: war created these space refugees, which then spread out around
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 2: the Milky Way. Earth just happens to be one of
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 2: the breakaway civilizations.
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 1: It's not outside the realm of possibility when you think
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 1: about what we're doing. and if we get more advanced
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 1: and do this better, that we could be still involved
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 1: in very similar types of activities throughout the galaxy. It
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 1: sounds terrible, but that just might be how things get done, unfortunately.
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 1: War might just be a part of our essence, and
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 1: it might be a part of the whole cosmic balance
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 1: of good and evil, the shifting of the winds and
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 1: the tides coming in and coming out. It needs good
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 1: and bad. It needs all these things.
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, in the biblical text, God says in Isaiah...
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 2: I create the good and I create the evil. Do
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 2: what I say to the Lord. Right, the battle, the struggle.
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 2: He's saying he creates good and evil. Yin and yang
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 2: is what they call it in ancient cultures, right? Good
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 2: and evil, dark and light, it's all the same thing.
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 1: It's the most fascinating subject to me. It really is.
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 1: The most fascinating subject is when I hear stories from
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 1: the Bible or the Bhagavad Gita or the Talmud or
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 1: any stories, like what was the origin? What were they
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 1: trying to say? What were they documenting? What were they
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 1: sharing in an oral tradition of the history of people
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 1: and of the earth and of the heavens themselves? What
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 1: were they sharing? What were those things? How much of
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 1: it was myth? How much of it was someone misinterpreted
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 1: the original story and watered it down? But at the
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 1: beginning of it, even at the beginning, there was light.
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 1: It's literally like the Big Bang. It's literally describing what
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 1: the current scientists believe happened. And then you think about
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 1: these stories of floods and then we know there's evidence
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 1: like the Randall Carlson work, all his work on the
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 1: flooding that existed where you could see these like enormous
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 1: channels cut through that it is indicative of just insane
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 1: amounts of water over a short period of time and
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 1: when he describes that you're like what then the fact
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 1: that we know that there's Asteroid impacts there's comet impacts
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 1: and that the ice age ended abruptly and that all
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 1: these areas Like this is where it was. This is
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 1: what where it went down and this might be every
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 1: fucking story and that you've heard from the beginning of time.
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 1: Epic of Gilgamesh, Noah and the Ark, all these stories.
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, all of it. I mean, obviously, the Noah story
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 2: is inside of the Epic of Gilgamesh.
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 2: I believe that is a result of the Younger Dryas incident.
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 2: In the Epic of Atrahasis, there is this strike of
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 2: this either an asteroid or whatever it is. It doesn't
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 2: specifically say. But they had the ability to stop it.
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 2: And there's this other disc that has cuneiform writing on it,
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 2: which is, supposedly the direction that this thing took course
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 2: through space to hit Earth. And so it was kind
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 2: of known that this was going to happen. And everywhere
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 2: you look on the Earth around that same time period
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 2: that this is estimated to happen, megalithic construction stopped. What
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 2: happened that everyone stopped at the same time, unfinished in
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 2: the quarry, unfinished in the quarry over here, unfinished in
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 2: the quarry, all of a sudden around the entire planet,
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 2: everything is unfinished. Something happened globally that made people stop
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 2: working on these structures and and go to maybe Derinkuyu
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 2: underground base or in the Americas that, you know, they
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 2: say that the ant people, the Hopis say the ant
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 2: people took them under. If you couldn't go under and
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 2: save yourself, you had a ship. We know that Zia
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 2: Zidra in the Epic of Gilgamesh was told how to
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 2: build a ship, but it wasn't a boat like what
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 2: we know was said in the Bible. It was actually
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 2: a disc, he was told to build. We found the
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 2: tablet for that. So we have the tablet in the
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 2: British Museum. It was an actual disc that looked like
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 2: pie sections on the inside. And he was told to
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 2: collect his local flora and fauna and his local livestock,
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 2: not two of every kind in the world. He didn't
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 2: get two ticks and two fleas and two. It didn't happen.
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 2: You know, he had local livestock, but he built a disc,
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 2: not a ship, which is pretty interesting. But, yeah, these
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 2: stories are everywhere. You know, it's pretty crazy.
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 1: It is crazy. And it's just so strange when you
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 1: see resistance to the idea while there's still real evidence
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 1: of this impact. Once there was real evidence of the impact,
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 1: once the Younger Trias Impact Theory started being discussed by
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 1: legitimate scientists, and they recognized when they're doing these core
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 1: samples that they find nuclear glass, and they find all
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 1: of these things like iridium that are very common in space,
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 1: very rare on Earth, all this very thin layer. It's
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 1: real clear there's a time where all this shit goes down.
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it happened.
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 1: And there's also mass die-offs in places. And my friend
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 1: John Reeves, have you ever seen the.
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 1: Alaska Boneyard on Instagram.
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 2: No, I haven't seen that one. Wow.
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 1: Jamie, pull that up. So he has this piece of land,
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 1: and he's a gold miner in Alaska. He's a fucking
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 1: great character. And he has this amazing piece of land
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 1: that they've pulled out thousands of bones and tusks and
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 1: woolly mammoths and animals that aren't... The Boneyard Alaska is
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 1: his Instagram. Wow.
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 2: That.
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 1: things that weren't even supposed to exist in that area.
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 1: They have absolute proof of these things existing. Different cats
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 1: and short-faced bears and All kinds of shit. So they're
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 1: pulling things out every day. He just texted me the
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 1: other day. Asked me to come out and blow out
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 1: a mastodon bone. I can't make it, bro. I'm busy,
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 1: but I love this dude. And what he's doing up
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 1: there is all his. This is his property. So he's
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 1: got it all documented. He's got warehouses. He spent millions
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 1: of dollars doing all this stuff. And his one area
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 1: is only a few acres, man. It's only a few acres.
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 2: So imagine what's really up there.
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 1: Imagine what's really up there. And what he thinks is
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 1: There was a mass die-off that probably happened instantaneously, and
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 1: all these things got swept in the water and washed
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 1: down into this one particular area where they collected, and
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 1: that's where he's finding them.
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 2: Gotcha. That makes sense.
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 1: So he's got two very specific areas that aren't that big,
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 1: just a few acres each. I think the biggest one
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 1: is like six acres.
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 1: It's crazy, and so they're using these high pressure hoses,
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 1: and they shoot into the permafrost, and they, because it's
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 1: cold as fuck out there, so everything is just frozen
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 1: into the ground. So they blast into the permafrost and
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 1: start to loosen things up, and show some of the
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 1: images of the warehouses that he has. I mean, insane
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 1: amounts of tusks and bones. And there's even more than this.
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 1: What is the museum in New York that has his bones?
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 1: Natural History Museum, from the previous owners of this property,
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 1: they took a bunch of these bones and they wind
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 1: up dumping some of them in the East River because
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 1: they had too many of them. Oh, man. So then
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 1: they've sent out people. What is his name? Dirty Water Dan? Don.
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 1: Dirty Water Don. Dirty Water Don, who's this fucking scuba
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 1: diver guy who goes into the East River, who found
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 1: woolly mammoth bones. And what was the other one? Bison bones.
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 1: All these different bones at the bottom of the fucking
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 1: East River, exactly where he said they would be dumped off.
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 1: So they dumped them because they had so much of them,
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 1: and then they have a bunch of them that are
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 1: still there. So now they have Alaskan politicians who are
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 1: pressuring the museum to release these things back to these
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 1: people so they can get them in the hands of
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 1: people that could fucking study them. Right. Because they just
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 1: have them locked up, and they're just trying to say
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 1: that they're theirs. First they tried to deny they have them,
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 1: then he provided paperwork, and it's There's proof. And then
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 1: they denied there was ever any dumped into the East River.
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 1: But now they pulled them out of the East River.
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 1: Now they know.
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 2: It's real.
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 1: So look at this.
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 2: That's incredible.
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 1: This is insane.
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 2: That's an incredible graveyard.
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 1: This is insane.
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 1: Boning. When you help, it's a boneyard. So if you
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 1: go there, you become a boner. So he wants to
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 1: make me an official boner. So all these bones. This
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 1: is just a small sampling of what this guy has.
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 1: We have one out there. We have a bison head
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 1: that he gave me.
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 2: Well, I saw it out there. Yeah, that's what that is.
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 2: That's what that is? That came from here?
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 1: Oh, wow. Yeah, that's probably 15,000 years old or something.
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's wild. Who knows? I mean, yeah, that's crazy.
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 1: This whole thing is insane. Look at all this stuff
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 1: he's got. I mean, it's just, and this is just
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 1: one small area that they're chipping away at.
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 2: A few acres.
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 1: So, and there's charred surface. There's a layer that they
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 1: go through that's all completely charred. And he's documented this, too. Like,
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 1: what the fuck happened here? Look at this layer. Yeah.
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 1: This layer is insane. This whole place was up in flames.
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 1: See the char? He's got it in his hand.
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 2: There it goes.
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 1: There's thick layers of that. Scroll up to his caption.
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 1: What does it say? Something came in hot from out
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 1: of this world, I'm thinking. What you're looking at is
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 1: what we found on the bedrock when we were digging
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 1: the drain. The bedrock is burned. The gravel is burned.
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 1: And nobody knows why yet. That's okay. We'll figure it
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 1: out someday. So there's a whole layer of this. Clearly
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 1: something was on fucking fire.
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 2: Definitely. Well, we found charred stones just like that at
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 2: the base, ejected out from the base of the Bent
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 2: Pyramid of Dozier.
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 1: Really?
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 2: And if you look at this, we've been documenting this.
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 2: I'm going to put it in my TV show, you know,
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 2: the Anunnaki series. There's areas of the Bent Pyramid that
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 2: look like they've been blown out. Something hit it and
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 2: blew out the stones and charred them black, like just
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 2: like that. And there's like a debris field out there.
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 2: And nobody is studying this stuff. So we started studying
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 2: these charred stones, these charred rocks. And up above the
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 2: area where you kind of walk in to go down
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 2: into the Bent Pyramid, there's more, look like another impact
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 2: point where there's more stones blown away. And as you
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 2: walk out away from the face, you discover that's where
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 2: they lay. And you put your hand in the sand
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 2: and pull up these charred, burnt stones, which is just wild.
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 1: So can we see some of that?
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 2: See what that looks like? Look at the Bent Pyramid.
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 1: The Bent Pyramid.
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 2: If anybody goes to those corners, they'll be able to show.
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 1: Is this a common theory, this theory of being hit
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 1: by something?
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 2: Nobody's talked about it yet. You know, that's why I'm
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 2: trying to, we're trying to analyze and see what could
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 2: have happened.
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 1: A piece hit there, but like the bigger impact was
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 1: somewhere else and it just wiped everybody out.
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 2: Because you know how when something comes in, it breaks
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 2: into chunks. Yes, of course. And then a piece hits
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 2: over your piece. Yeah, see that corner there? You see
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 2: that corner? Now that corner, you know, I wish we
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 2: could get a better colored picture, but there's a debris
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 2: field there. All those stones are just, it looks like
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 2: an impact. And there's, out away from it, there's charred,
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 2: burnt rocks in the sand. You pick up a regular
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 2: piece of rock. You can see what that is, a geode.
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 2: You put up these, it looks like charred, burnt stone
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 2: that came from the pyramid itself.
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 1: I like to see the image of the charcus. To me,
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 1: when I'm looking at that, it just looks like people
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 1: were stealing rocks.
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's exactly what it looks like, but that's
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 2: not stealing rocks there. And the guide, the homegrown archaeologist
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 2: that was with us, Muhammad Ibrahim, has the same exact
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 2: belief because we are able to see the broken, those
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 2: areas there, the mass of what's missing, the majority of
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 2: it's in the sand.
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 2: Which is why I would send you the photo.
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 1: Oh, okay. So it wasn't stolen.
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 2: It was knocked off. Yeah, it's there. It's still there.
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 2: So I'll send you the photo that we have.
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 1: Jimmy, could you please click on the one to the
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 1: left of your cursor? Yeah, that one. Thank you. Can
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 1: you make that one bigger? I see. So all that
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 1: got blown apart.
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 2: It's blown apart, and the mass is still there. A
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 2: lot of it turned into dust and powder, but the
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 2: black pieces would be further toward me.
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 1: Can you tell us where we could find images of those,
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 1: the charred I have some. Can you show them to
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 1: Jamie or send them to Jamie?
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 2: I'll send them to you right away. Absolutely.
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 1: You can't airdrop it because you're using foreign technology. Not even.
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll just download them and email them to you.
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 1: But we want to be able to do it now.
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 2: They're on our Google photo drive right now.
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 1: Could you just send it to him if he got
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 1: you an email? We'll do it right now?
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 2: Absolutely.
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 1: Okay, Jamie, will you give him an email? We'll pause
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 1: here for a second, folks.
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 2: We'll get these images. We don't want to bore you
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 2: with this.
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 1: Okay. So we left off with the burnt pyramid areas
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 1: that look like they've been hit. And he said, so
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 1: we got the photographs from your wife. So let's take
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 1: a look at them here. So this is a video.
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 3: I had the videos because they were going to give
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 3: me screenshots from the videos. So I figured we'd just
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 3: look at the videos instead.
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 4: There's one that's kind of more zoomed in.
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 2: It's hard to get an idea of the coloration, the
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 2: discoloration there from the low resolution phone video.
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 1: Do we have any other videos? Or is it just videos, Jamie,
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 1: or do we have photos?
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 2: Oh, okay, this area. You see those areas there? That's
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 2: those black areas on the stone. If you rub them,
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 2: they get very black underneath. There's also other pieces that
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 2: are smaller laying further out.
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 1: So there's charred areas that have been covered with dust
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 1: and sand over time.
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 2: Right, exactly.
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 1: But if you brush it off, you see it charred.
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 2: You see those dark areas there on those stones?
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 2: That's not the natural color of the stone. If you
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 2: go back up, that's not the natural color at all.
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 2: Those colors there and the geologist and the homegrown guide
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 2: that we use in the archaeologist also said that's not
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 2: the normal coloration. They don't know what energetically happened here.
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 1: Okay. So now I see it. I see it in that.
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 1: Stop right there. I see it in that stone right
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 1: there as well. So charred and then over the thousands
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 1: of years covered with dust and sand.
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 2: Correct.
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 1: But if you dust off the dust and sand, you
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 1: see this charred surface. Right. Oh.
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Which is crazy.
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 1: Well, that does kind of make sense if a little
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 1: chunk hit that. Yeah. And a bunch hit some other spots,
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 1: and that was just whoosh. And it also makes sense
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 1: if you think about how an advanced civilization like that
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 1: can just disappear. What would have to be the moment?
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 1: It just doesn't make any sense. I know there's the
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 1: burning of the Library of Alexandria where they lost a
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 1: lot of the information.
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 2: I think there might have been a book heist.
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 1: Really?
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the burning of the Library of Alexandria
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 2: was a heist. The burning did happen. Don't get me wrong.
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 2: But that was just a distraction to steal the knowledge
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 2: and that the majority of that knowledge ended up in
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 2: the Vatican archives.
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 1: I knew you were going to say the Vatican.
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 2: That's what I believe.
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 1: The Vatican is one of my favorites. Yeah. That's one
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 1: of my favorites. I went there with my family a
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 1: few years back, and I was blown away. And I
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 1: highly recommend it to anybody that gets to go to Rome.
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 1: If you go to Rome, please go to the Vatican.
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 1: It's stunning. Yeah. It's stunning, all the artwork they have.
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 1: And they also have an Egyptian obelisk.
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 2: Yes, right in the center. Which is crazy. And, you know,
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 2: that obelisk, that courtyard is the same courtyard as Teotihuacan.
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 2: If you look at Teotihuacan. You mean the dimensions? Not
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 2: the dimensions, but just the actual shape of that courtyard.
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 2: It matches the courtyard of Teotihuacan.
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 3: Really?
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's an incredible coincidence that they built it based
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 2: on the Teotihuacan where the Avenue of the Dead has
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 2: those platforms. And then you have the Pyramid of the
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 2: Sun on the right and the Pyramid of the Moon
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 2: straight ahead. That area resembles the courtyard of the Vatican. Wow.
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 1: The Vatican is so insane. It really, I didn't know.
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 1: I knew that it had a lot of art. I
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 1: didn't know.
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 2: It's outrageous.
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 1: When you go to St. Peter's Basilica, you're just like, what?
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 1: What did you do? How much time did this take?
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 1: This is so intricate and so incredible. It's one of
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 1: the most spectacular things I think I've ever seen in
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 1: my life in terms of like what human beings can
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 1: do with ingenuity and time and artisans and craftsmen and
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 1: people that, artisans that just create the most insane ceiling
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 1: you've ever seen in your life. So intricate.
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 1: I mean, and perfect for a house of worship because
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 1: you walk in there and you believe in God like immediately.
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 2: Right. Like this is obviously a shrine to God. Yeah, exactly.
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 1: And the fact that they did it for so long,
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 1: hundreds of years to make that place.
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 2: I know. It's incredible.
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 1: It's so amazing.
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 2: It lets you know that there's time periods where people
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 2: would operate within a golden age in certain regions of
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 2: the planet and have time to do that type of
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 2: extensive art and craft and beauty, create that kind of beauty.
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 1: Right, and the only way you do that is when
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 1: you've got your resources covered and your army strong.
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 2: That's it.
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 1: And that was Rome. Yep. I mean, that's what they
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 1: were back then.
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 2: They tried to take over the world.
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and the thing about what they have is they
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 1: don't have to kind of tell you. So if they do,
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 1: like there's archives that they have in Rome that haven't
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 1: been searched. They're not just opening them up to everyone
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 1: so that everyone could look in and see what they have.
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 1: So there's always been speculation that they have. Some wild
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 1: shit written down in there.
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, some wild stuff. I mean, they're investigating aliens, you know? Right.
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 2: I mean, one of the Pope's astronomers, you know, they
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 2: were talking about years ago, though. They were talking about
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 2: years ago that the Pope wanted to baptize the first alien. Now,
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 2: that's an incredible statement.
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 1: That would be like turning Michio Kaku into a Scientologist. Right?
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 1: It's like, that would be hilarious.
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 1: That would be hilarious.
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 2: And then they built this telescope called Lucifer to look
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 2: for alien life.
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 1: That's not a good name.
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 1: You would think anybody would know better.
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 2: Right. The light bearers, you know, what Lucifer means supposedly. But, yeah,
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 2: they built a telescope named Lucifer.
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 1: Right. But the swastika used to be a sign of peace.
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 1: You can't really use it anymore.
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 2: No, you can't use it anymore. I know.
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 1: I know.
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 1: It's like things can be stolen forever. No one's rocking
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 1: that Hitler mustache. That's a wrap. It's over. Hitler mustache,
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 1: it's over. No one's getting called Adolf. That's over. That's over.
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 2: It's a wrap. I guess they didn't want to cut
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 2: that name loose, but they utilized that name for the
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 2: naming of that. And it's actually in America. I believe
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 2: it's in Arizona.
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 1: Really?
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 1: No kidding. Wow. Lucifer telescope. How kooky.
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 1: All of the telescopes are fascinating, but what's really the
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 1: most interesting to me is the James Webb and the
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 1: information that's coming out about the birth of the cosmos
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 1: and about how they're looking at these galaxies that seem
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 1: too big, that they form too quickly, and that they're
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 1: starting to reexamine the timeline of the Big Bang and
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 1: that they're reconsidering whether or not they were correct with
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 1: this 13 point, what is it, nine or seven?
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 2: 13.5 to 13.8 billion years.
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and they think these galaxies should not exist in this.
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 1: I was just watching a documentary on it yesterday or
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 1: a couple days ago where they were getting into why
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 1: this doesn't make sense and the size of these galaxies.
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 1: They were too formed. I believe it was 500 million
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 1: years after the Big Bang.
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 2: Right, right.
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 1: So they're like, this doesn't make sense.
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 2: According to us now.
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 1: According to us.
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 2: With our minds.
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah. You know, we're still trying to figure out what
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 2: dark matter is.
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 1: Right. Well, I'm just, the Terrence Howard, the concept of
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 1: stars creating planets and the planets eventually getting to a
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 1: Goldilocks zone and then eventually getting out and then this
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 1: is how life propagates through the universe. It makes so
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 1: much sense. And with our limited understanding of the cosmos
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 1: and our adherence to very specific ideas of how it
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 1: all was created and the resistance to things like even
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 1: the James Webb telescopes discoveries, you realize that, like, Science,
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 1: like everything else, when it's practiced by humans, humans fuck
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 1: everything up. They use their ego. They use arrogance. They
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 1: don't want to be corrected. They want their initial ideas
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 1: to be correct. And then there's a lot of great
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 1: scientists that are just looking at it and going, this
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 1: is amazing. Let's keep doing this and let's get an
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 1: even better telescope out there that maybe could see even further.
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 1: And maybe we'll have to re-examine what we think about
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 1: the birth of the universe.
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 2: Exactly. I mean, it just keeps getting better. Technology keeps
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 2: getting better. I remember Hubble, when it came back with
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 2: the 2 trillion sky book, 2 trillion galaxies is what
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 2: it estimated exists within our known universe. And then the
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 2: web comes out and it's just showing this stuff in
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 2: much more clarity. And it's probably going to make discoveries
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 2: that are even going to surpass, obviously, Hubble in terms
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 2: of the quantity of galaxies. And it just keeps getting
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 2: better and better. We're getting a bigger and better understanding
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 2: of our place in the universe as a whole. And
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 2: some people are scared of that. This is why they
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 2: don't want it to get out. They don't want the
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 2: information to be put forth that's going to change the paradigm.
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 2: But the paradigm is not to be afraid. The paradigm
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 2: shift is about to embrace this new huge part of
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 2: us that's connected directly to us. We're part of it,
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 2: and it's part of us intrinsically, energetically. And I think
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 2: people are just afraid of what they think is the
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 2: unknown because it makes them feel small. When I hear
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 2: all this stuff going on out there, it makes me
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 2: feel bigger because I know that I am part of it.
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah. We are part of it. Yeah. We like to
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 1: think as individuals. Right.
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 2: Oh, my God.
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 1: I'm not important. The universe is infinite. The universe is
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 1: not just infinite. It's so infinite that the infinite nature
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 1: of the universe might be a part of an atom. Right.
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 1: In another infinite universe.
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 2: That's the fractal holographic universe.
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah. When you go fractals on things and you start
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 1: thinking about it in that terms, you go, what?
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 1: It's never-ending. It's just this constant thing that's in you,
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 1: in subatomic particles, and deeper than that, and then further
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 1: out than that. It just never ends.
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 1: It goes both ways forever.
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 1: And you just go, oh, boy.
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 1: It's hard to take yourself too seriously.
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 2: Listen, it's hard because I think individuality is an illusion.
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 2: We appear to be separate individuals, but energetically we're really
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 2: all the same entity, the same consciousness. experiencing itself differently
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 2: subjectively through different bodies. Yes.
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 1: Different life experiences, different genetics, different places in the world. Correct. Yeah.
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 1: But we're all the same thing.
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 1: And you know, that's the hardest thing to, for people
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 1: to get in their head. Anyone that you run into
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 1: is you living another life.
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 1: We're all the, the concept of me. When you think
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 1: about it, everyone has that same feeling of me. Everyone
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 1: has me inside of them to just me with less information,
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 1: more information, better brain, better this, better that. Well, shittier this,
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 1: shittier that, and there's an infinite number of examples of it,
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 1: and then it probably exists everywhere in the cosmos, and
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 1: it's probably what facilitates change and growth, is that there
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 1: is this imbalance, and that there is this constant struggle
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 1: amongst human beings. And it's probably what makes us constantly
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 1: try to improve. It's just very disheartening to think that
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 1: we improve to the point where we can travel to
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 1: other planets and have a war. I know.
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 2: I know. We don't want that to happen.
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 1: We don't want that to happen. But just if it
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 1: really did happen here, it just makes you think, like,
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 1: is that just what we do? Forever and is this
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 1: just when we have this utopian perspective of being able
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 1: to eliminate war on Earth someday? Which no one thinks
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 1: is gonna happen and not with this current version of
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 1: human beings and then you think well if we we've
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 1: surpassed Earth if we passed out if we passed our
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 1: genes and our Civilization out into the universe. Are we
• 1:48:59
  Speaker 1: still gonna be behaving the same way, right? And if
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 1: we were, if I was an alien, I'd be like,
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 1: don't let those dudes in. You know, if we get
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 1: to a point where we're us now, but 500 years
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 1: from now with the same genes, same wacky ass crazy genes.
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 1: But now we have time travel. Now we have interplanetary
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 1: travels like that. And then we show up with nuclear bombs.
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 1: It's like, give us all your titanium.
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 2: You know, like, fuck.
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 1: You know, like, that's a problem.
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that could be a problem.
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 1: I would be really trying hard to stop us if
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 1: I was from another planet.
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 2: I think a lot of these suppression and oppression of technologies, potentially,
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 2: this hypothesis, could be that there's a hand in the
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 2: background holding us back a little bit. It's quite possible.
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 1: But then there's a theory, like Diana Pasolka's book's, where
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 1: they talk about these discs that they have found in
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 1: the recovery program that apparently does exist. They call them donations.
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 1: They think that these things are kind of left here
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 1: so that we can just go, Oh, fiber optics. What
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 1: a great idea.
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 2: Velcro.
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah. There's a lot of these things that seem
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 1: to like transistors. Right. Yeah. A lot of these things
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 1: seem to have come very quickly after Roswell.
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 1: Which is interesting.
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 2: That's a fact. I believe in the ARVs, alien reproduction vehicles.
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 2: I believe that exactly is what's really going on with
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 2: a lot of these UAPs. I think that there are
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 2: a lot of them are ours. I believe that there's
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 2: UFOs out there, but a lot of these objects that
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 2: we see in the sky are, probably made by us
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 2: by re-engineering existing alien technology. But it comes to the point,
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 2: are we going to be able to advance as a
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 2: civilization to get beyond war? I just saw they released
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 2: an AI fighter jet that went into a dogfight just
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 2: a few weeks ago.
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Mike Baker was on here showing us that. It
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 1: beats the human-piloted planes 100%.
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 2: Of the time. Yeah, that's a wrap. That's Skynet. Skynet
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 2: is online.
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 1: And then on top of that, instead of just AI-powered
• 1:50:52
  Speaker 1: fighter jet, you could develop a fighter jet that no
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 1: longer has a person in it, so you have to
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 1: worry about G-forces.
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 1: You could do wild shit. Yes.
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 2: Yes, exactly.
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 1: And it's fully AI-controlled vehicle, especially as these technologies scale up. Like,
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 1: I have a Tesla, and my Tesla has auto drive,
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 1: and I can set in a destination, like a restaurant
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 1: I like to go to, press auto drive and navigation,
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 1: and it does everything.
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 1: It hits the blinkers. It stops at stop signs. It
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 1: stops at red lights. It takes turns. It changes lanes.
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 1: It moves around parked vehicles. It's fucking wild, man. And
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 1: it's not done yet.
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 2: And this is the beginning.
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it does hit curbs, though, I heard. I heard
• 1:51:30
  Speaker 1: it hits curbs. I heard when you're taking turns for
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 1: overpasses or underpasses, a few people have curbed up. So
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 1: keep your hands on the wheels, kids. But it's not
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 1: there yet. But it's a lot better than when I
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 1: first got it. I remember I was driving down Laurel Canyon.
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 1: And I was with my wife, and I was playing around.
• 1:51:50
  Speaker 1: I was like, we're listening to Led Zeppelin, and I'm
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 1: moving my hand around the steering wheel. I'm like, look
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 1: at this. The car's driving itself. This is crazy. But
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 1: that was primitive back then. I didn't totally trust it.
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 1: It was probably better than I thought it was, but
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 1: every now and then it would get a little wonky.
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 1: Now it's smooth.
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 1: Now it's– you use it at all, Jamie?
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 4: Here and there. I kind of almost forget sometimes where
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 4: that is.
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 4: This car drives its fucking self.
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 1: I do it for a goof sometimes.
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just randomly.
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 1: I've been doing it a lot lately, though. It's shockingly good.
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 2: Well, our grandkids, that's all they're going to know. 100%.
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 2: They won't have to drive at all.
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Right now, people joke around about manual cars that
• 1:52:28
  Speaker 1: it's a good theft deterrent device. Have a manual transmission.
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 1: Nobody knows how to drive.
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 2: That fucking thing. This is hard.
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, it used to be the only way you
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 1: could get a car. That was it.
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 2: I learned it by accident because I was in an
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 2: emergency situation and I had to drive my friend's car
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 2: that was a manual. And I had to learn within
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 2: the distance between where I was to where I had
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 2: to go.
• 1:52:46
  Speaker 4: Oh, wow.
• 1:52:46
  Speaker 2: Because one of my kids had got hurt doing something.
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 1: And the only Carville was a manual.
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 2: That was it.
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah. It's not hard. I mean, you could learn it quick,
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 1: but most people don't know how to do it. But
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 1: the thing is, like, that's going away. Like, they're now
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 1: saying that the next version of Porsches is going to
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 1: be the last version that they have with a manual transmission.
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 1: And all, yeah, which is crazy because Porsche, that was
• 1:53:04
  Speaker 1: the one thing that people held on to was that
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 1: you could get that stick shift. People love that engagement
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 1: of the car.
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 1: But that's going to be the thing of the past.
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 1: Everything is going to be automated because your freedom to
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 1: drive that, people are going to– the communist nature of
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 1: especially California, they'll do it first probably. Your freedom to
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 1: drive that is not worth the potential of you taking
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 1: someone's life in an accident.
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 1: And this is– it makes sense. That's part of the problem.
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 1: It does make sense. You can see the argument.
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. It makes sense and that's where everything is
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 2: going to go. I mean there's going to be so
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 2: many– I mean, drivers are going to disappear, like chauffeurs
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 2: and so forth. It's all going to go away.
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of that in here. They cause traffic jams,
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 1: these wacky driverless cars. They have them here. And they're
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 1: not quite there yet, but they're good enough to take
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 1: people around, which is crazy. Take me to Red Ash,
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 1: drives you to the restaurant, drops you off. Bye, thank you.
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 1: All in an app. Everything's done. It's simple. It's kind
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 1: of nuts. And it's just the beginning. I mean, we
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 1: didn't have any of this 10 years ago.
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 2: No.
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 1: 10 years in most time periods is not that big
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 1: of a deal, technology.
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 2: No.
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 1: Technologically, rather.
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah. We're advancing fast.
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 1: Well, ChatGPT 5, when they release that, it's going to
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 1: be as big a leap, if not bigger, than 3
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 1: to 4. And 3 to 4 was nuts. Yeah.
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 2: I mean, in 100 years, we went from a horse
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 2: buggy and carriage all the way to putting remote control
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 2: cars on Mars. So we're moving at an extremely fast
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 2: pace right now. And they just released this ChatGPT and
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 2: other robotics on humanity. which is great. It's going to
• 1:54:31
  Speaker 2: do a lot of good for us. But at the
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 2: same time, if you're going to replace somebody's job, you
• 1:54:34
  Speaker 2: have to then take away their financial responsibilities. You can't
• 1:54:37
  Speaker 2: expect them to still have the financial responsibilities and take
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 2: away the job. So that's going to be the conundrum.
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 2: I'm waiting to see how that's going to pan out,
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 2: how many of us are going to stand up and say, look,
• 1:54:45
  Speaker 2: wait a minute now. I'm a single mother of three,
• 1:54:50
  Speaker 2: and I can't waitress anymore. So what's going to happen?
• 1:54:52
  Speaker 2: Or even attorneys are at risk. Nurses are at risk now.
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 2: So what are they going to do?
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 1: There's enough money. in this country, just in this country alone, to,
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 1: if you did replace jobs, you make it so that
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 1: whatever controls that industry has to give a certain percentage
• 1:55:11
  Speaker 1: to ensure, not just like a living wage, but a
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 1: good wage. Where people live well and they don't have
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 1: to think about it. But then, you gotta give people
• 1:55:21
  Speaker 1: a purpose. Because you can't just have them laying around,
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 1: getting free money, and not having a life. Because a
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 1: lot of people, their purpose is their job. That's what
• 1:55:30
  Speaker 1: they look forward to. They get engaged with something. They
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 1: have a community there. They have tasks that they do.
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 1: They succeed. They go out to dinner and celebrate. That's
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 1: a big part of life for people. You can't just
• 1:55:39
  Speaker 1: take that away. So then how does that get replaced?
• 1:55:42
  Speaker 1: I think it's video games.
• 1:55:45
  Speaker 2: They're going to go into cyber world. When you look
• 1:55:47
  Speaker 2: into the ancient texts, they had similar situations in these
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 2: golden ages. But people spent time working for things like
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 2: service to others, traveling, arts and crafts, exploring inner peace.
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 2: So it's about teaching people new ways to define and
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 2: develop their passions and how to explore those passions.
• 1:56:06
  Speaker 1: Well, that would be a big yoga explosion.
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 2: Across the country. That would be cool. That would be great.
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, people get into fitness and martial arts and just
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 1: be able to do– but you have to do something.
• 1:56:15
  Speaker 2: Right. I mean– Well, if you become stagnant, you die.
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And you still should have the ability to possibly
• 1:56:21
  Speaker 1: work if you want to.
• 1:56:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:56:22
  Speaker 1: Right? It shouldn't be mutually exclusive. Like you don't get
• 1:56:24
  Speaker 1: this money unless– If everybody got like 200 grand a year,
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 1: just imagine the entire country just gets a free 200
• 1:56:30
  Speaker 1: grand a year. You're never going to have to worry
• 1:56:32
  Speaker 1: about food. You're never going to have to worry about
• 1:56:33
  Speaker 1: a place to live. You're good. You got $ 200, 000 a
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 1: year because everything's automated and everything's done by the government.
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 1: Then you're going to have to find something. You're going
• 1:56:42
  Speaker 1: to have to find a purpose. There's got to be
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 1: a thing, whether it's art or writing or whatever it is.
• 1:56:49
  Speaker 1: You better find something or you're going to go crazy.
• 1:56:51
  Speaker 1: And then there's going to be a Percentage of our
• 1:56:53
  Speaker 1: population that's active. They're going to be working out. And
• 1:56:56
  Speaker 1: there's going to be a bunch of us that just
• 1:56:58
  Speaker 1: fuck off and drink beer and play Call of Duty.
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 2: Just sit down. Yeah.
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 1: Just get hammered and fucking order pizza and never have
• 1:57:05
  Speaker 1: to do anything. Yeah. Live in a nice place. You
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 1: don't have to worry about money ever.
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:57:10
  Speaker 1: You can always buy a good laptop and you get
• 1:57:12
  Speaker 1: together with your buddies and you all play games. But
• 1:57:14
  Speaker 1: you better have something. Go bowling. You better have something.
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 1: You better have something you like to do.
• 1:57:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:57:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah. You know? Yeah.
• 1:57:20
  Speaker 2: That's where it's going, though.
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 1: But wouldn't that be better than work? Because for most people, like,
• 1:57:25
  Speaker 1: you know, there's a great satisfaction working and accomplishing a
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 1: hard day's work. And, you know, you get your paycheck
• 1:57:31
  Speaker 1: and you feel like you've accomplished something. But wouldn't it
• 1:57:33
  Speaker 1: be better if all of your needs were met?
• 1:57:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:57:37
  Speaker 1: And we put an emphasis in our culture on creating.
• 1:57:42
  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
• 1:57:43
  Speaker 1: And doing things that interest you, and whether it's competition
• 1:57:46
  Speaker 1: or whatever it is. But this would be financed, essentially,
• 1:57:50
  Speaker 1: by this ability that you just get free money because
• 1:57:53
  Speaker 1: robots control everything.
• 1:57:55
  Speaker 2: There's no more jobs. There's no more jobs. They don't
• 1:57:57
  Speaker 2: have to pay a salary to these robots, only repair
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 2: costs and management costs, obviously. So yeah, it would be great.
• 1:58:04
  Speaker 1: And the $ 200, 000 that everybody gets, they're getting it anyway
• 1:58:06
  Speaker 1: because they were going to buy stuff from them.
• 1:58:08
  Speaker 2: Exactly.
• 1:58:09
  Speaker 1: It would be a wild change and shift in how
• 1:58:12
  Speaker 1: human beings interacted. And if, If there was a way
• 1:58:15
  Speaker 1: for us to channel that in a positive manner, it
• 1:58:18
  Speaker 1: could ultimately be beneficial. And we could be looking back
• 1:58:21
  Speaker 1: on these days where people had to work at Wendy's
• 1:58:22
  Speaker 1: and go, what the fuck was that about?
• 1:58:24
  Speaker 2: Well, most people are working in jobs that are not
• 1:58:26
  Speaker 2: passionate about these jobs.
• 1:58:27
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:58:28
  Speaker 2: And it's evident in their work, you know, their effort
• 1:58:30
  Speaker 2: and their work ethics.
• 1:58:32
  Speaker 1: Well, it's also evident in their success, right? And their happiness.
• 1:58:35
  Speaker 2: That's right.
• 1:58:35
  Speaker 1: Like a guy like you who likes to do, you
• 1:58:37
  Speaker 1: do what you like. You enjoy this. You pursue this.
• 1:58:40
  Speaker 1: You talk about this. You're very good at it. This
• 1:58:42
  Speaker 1: is a great way to live. Yeah. And other people
• 1:58:45
  Speaker 1: can find other similar things or different things that similarly
• 1:58:48
  Speaker 1: excite them. Yeah.
• 1:58:50
  Speaker 2: And if we were under that new scenario of $ 200, 000
• 1:58:51
  Speaker 2: a year or whatever it was, I would still do this.
• 1:58:54
  Speaker 1: Of course.
• 1:58:55
  Speaker 2: You know, so people will work. It's like Star Trek.
• 1:58:57
  Speaker 2: They work for free on Star Trek. They don't, you know,
• 1:58:59
  Speaker 2: it's just a TV series, but they don't have a paycheck.
• 1:59:02
  Speaker 1: Kirk didn't get paid?
• 1:59:02
  Speaker 2: No, they never got paid any money. It was all
• 1:59:04
  Speaker 2: for free. Communists.
• 1:59:05
  Speaker 1: They were trying to turn us into communists.
• 1:59:07
  Speaker 2: It's all for free. But they did it because they
• 1:59:08
  Speaker 2: were passionate about it and they believed in it so much.
• 1:59:11
  Speaker 2: And so There's things that people can still do if
• 1:59:13
  Speaker 2: they're passionate about those things. And, you know, it's just work.
• 1:59:16
  Speaker 2: But you don't ask for a paycheck. Right.
• 1:59:18
  Speaker 1: If there was a base paycheck for the whole country,
• 1:59:21
  Speaker 1: just a base paycheck based on I wonder if 200
• 1:59:23
  Speaker 1: grand is even possible. What is $ 200, 000 times $ 333 million?
• 1:59:25
  Speaker 1: Check that out, Jamie. Only 190 million are adults. 190
• 1:59:28
  Speaker 1: million adults. Right. That's right. Let's just make, let's be generous.
• 1:59:40
  Speaker 1: Let's make it 200 million adults.
• 1:59:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:59:43
  Speaker 1: So 200 million times 200,000 is what?
• 1:59:47
  Speaker 3: So it'd be two times two is four. Add all
• 1:59:50
  Speaker 3: the zeros from the 200,000 onto the 4 million.
• 1:59:53
  Speaker 1: Right. But what is that in like the word?
• 1:59:55
  Speaker 2: Is it trillions?
• 1:59:56
  Speaker 3: 200,000.
• 1:59:56
  Speaker 1: 200,000 times 200 million. 200 million's got eight zeros. So
• 2:00:10
  Speaker 1: six zeros. Six zeros is a billion. Nine zeros is... No,
• 2:00:16
  Speaker 1: six zeros is a million. Nine zeros is a trillion.
• 2:00:19
  Speaker 1: A billion.
• 2:00:19
  Speaker 4: It's giving me four E13, so it's four 13 zeros.
• 2:00:22
  Speaker 4: Let me see.
• 2:00:22
  Speaker 1: What that looks like. 13 zeros? Four times 13 zeros?
• 2:00:28
  Speaker 1: That's a lot of money, folks. Yeah. Going to have
• 2:00:31
  Speaker 1: to drain these oligarchs. Tax the rich!
• 2:00:35
  Speaker 2: What was the numbers? 200,000.
• 2:00:38
  Speaker 1: Times 200 million.
• 2:00:39
  Speaker 4: 40 billion? That doesn't sound right.
• 2:00:44
  Speaker 2: That is going to be....
• 2:00:47
  Speaker 4: It's either 40 billion or 400 billion.
• 2:00:50
  Speaker 2: It's $ 40 billion.
• 2:00:51
  Speaker 1: 40 billion, that's it?
• 2:00:53
  Speaker 2: That's reasonable. That's reasonable.
• 2:00:54
  Speaker 1: That's so reasonable. That's so reasonable.
• 2:00:57
  Speaker 2: That's less than the military industrial complex budget for the year.
• 2:01:00
  Speaker 1: 100%. Imagine that, folks. I just want you to think
• 2:01:03
  Speaker 1: about that. We could give 200 million people $ 200, 000 a year.
• 2:01:08
  Speaker 1: That's a good amount of money. $ 200, 000 is nice. You
• 2:01:11
  Speaker 1: can live in a nice house, go on vacation, you
• 2:01:14
  Speaker 1: can eat well. $ 200, 000. Yeah, not bad at all.
• 2:01:16
  Speaker 2: Not bad at all.
• 2:01:18
  Speaker 1: And if you did that, you could also still work.
• 2:01:20
  Speaker 1: You could also still make money. But everybody, if we
• 2:01:22
  Speaker 1: just elevated every adult in this country to that amount
• 2:01:26
  Speaker 1: of money. Well, dude, you're talking communist. No, I'm talking
• 2:01:31
  Speaker 1: everything's going to be automated, folks. And there should be
• 2:01:33
  Speaker 1: some sort of a tax on the result that this
• 2:01:36
  Speaker 1: has on society, particularly when, if everything is automated, the
• 2:01:40
  Speaker 1: people who run the automation, they're going to be making
• 2:01:44
  Speaker 1: staggering amounts of money.
• 2:01:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 2:01:46
  Speaker 1: So if a tax of $ 40 billion a year to
• 2:01:50
  Speaker 1: keep everybody happy, keep everybody from going fucking crazy, I mean,
• 2:01:53
  Speaker 1: that might be, it sounds crazy. Because it goes against
• 2:01:57
  Speaker 1: human instincts, right? Like human nature.
• 2:01:59
  Speaker 2: It goes against our programming. What we've been programmed to
• 2:02:01
  Speaker 2: believe is correct.
• 2:02:02
  Speaker 1: And it's not because we were designed to mine for gold.
• 2:02:05
  Speaker 2: That's right.
• 2:02:06
  Speaker 1: We were designed to work hard, right?
• 2:02:08
  Speaker 2: Designed to work hard, man.
• 2:02:09
  Speaker 1: Because it's kind of in our head that we have
• 2:02:10
  Speaker 1: to work hard.
• 2:02:11
  Speaker 2: Listen, we're so programmed to believe what happened in ancient
• 2:02:13
  Speaker 2: times that we believe the government is in control of us.
• 2:02:16
  Speaker 2: And we're in control of the government. Right. We allow
• 2:02:18
  Speaker 2: them to tell us what to do when we should
• 2:02:20
  Speaker 2: be telling them what to do and what we want.
• 2:02:22
  Speaker 2: But we sit back and allow them to put rules
• 2:02:24
  Speaker 2: in place, laws on us. and even lock us up
• 2:02:27
  Speaker 2: and do things to us, and there's nothing we can
• 2:02:29
  Speaker 2: do about it. But people think there's nothing we can do.
• 2:02:31
  Speaker 2: There is something we can do. We've given up our power.
• 2:02:34
  Speaker 2: We've relinquished our power to an outside source. Because of
• 2:02:37
  Speaker 2: divide and conquer, it allows it to work. Once we
• 2:02:40
  Speaker 2: realize that divide and conquer is just a distraction that
• 2:02:42
  Speaker 2: we should coordinate together and organize, then we can take
• 2:02:45
  Speaker 2: back control of this planet.
• 2:02:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and this idea of the government being in control
• 2:02:50
  Speaker 1: of you is literally how it works with every single
• 2:02:54
  Speaker 1: country in the world.
• 2:02:55
  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
• 2:02:56
  Speaker 1: It's just a natural course of human nature that the
• 2:02:58
  Speaker 1: people in power want more power. When you're selling skateboards,
• 2:03:02
  Speaker 1: you want to sell more skateboards next year. When you're
• 2:03:04
  Speaker 1: in power, you don't want to relinquish some of your
• 2:03:07
  Speaker 1: power and make it better on the people. No, you
• 2:03:09
  Speaker 1: want to clamp down that power more. We had to
• 2:03:11
  Speaker 1: get on Facebook and stop these people from tweeting about
• 2:03:14
  Speaker 1: things or posting about things. This has become a problem.
• 2:03:18
  Speaker 1: Let's put pressure on this company to censor certain voices
• 2:03:20
  Speaker 1: on YouTube.
• 2:03:21
  Speaker 2: Exactly.
• 2:03:21
  Speaker 1: And that's the shit that happens. That's really what happens
• 2:03:24
  Speaker 1: because– They're not acting in the best interest of humanity.
• 2:03:27
  Speaker 1: They're acting in their best interest, which is what every
• 2:03:31
  Speaker 1: industry does when it's just trying to make money.
• 2:03:33
  Speaker 2: Exactly. Well, the United States is a company. It's a corporation. Right.
• 2:03:36
  Speaker 2: And so they're acting like a corporation.
• 2:03:38
  Speaker 1: That's the reality of it. I agree with you, too,
• 2:03:41
  Speaker 1: about this UAP thing, UFO, UAP. Just many people have
• 2:03:46
  Speaker 1: said this, but I'll repeat it, that there's something about
• 2:03:48
  Speaker 1: them doing it always near where military bases are, too,
• 2:03:51
  Speaker 1: that's super suspicious.
• 2:03:52
  Speaker 2: Come on.
• 2:03:53
  Speaker 1: I mean, listen.
• 2:03:54
  Speaker 2: To me, what's going to happen or what potentially could happen,
• 2:03:56
  Speaker 2: another Gulf of Tonkin incident. You know, the incident that
• 2:03:59
  Speaker 2: created the Vietnamese War. They lied about an attack at
• 2:04:02
  Speaker 2: the Gulf of Tonkin.
• 2:04:02
  Speaker 1: False flag.
• 2:04:03
  Speaker 2: To create the Vietnamese War. Yeah, exactly. So all of
• 2:04:06
  Speaker 2: a sudden you see one of these UAPs. They're going
• 2:04:07
  Speaker 2: to call it one of these not ours. We don't
• 2:04:10
  Speaker 2: know whose it is. And then it attacks a Navy vessel.
• 2:04:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:04:13
  Speaker 2: And now they've got the right to say we need
• 2:04:16
  Speaker 2: $ 10 trillion a year, whatever the number is, to create
• 2:04:18
  Speaker 2: these weapons.
• 2:04:19
  Speaker 1: After Iran.
• 2:04:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Right. Whatever. Yeah.
• 2:04:22
  Speaker 1: Something.
• 2:04:22
  Speaker 2: And generates more money.
• 2:04:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:04:24
  Speaker 2: So, you know, could this be why the formation of
• 2:04:26
  Speaker 2: the Space Force is here? So they can find a
• 2:04:27
  Speaker 2: way to channel money into something else where these private
• 2:04:31
  Speaker 2: corporations can create these black budget projects that we've approved
• 2:04:35
  Speaker 2: because we're afraid we're going to be attacked by aliens now.
• 2:04:38
  Speaker 2: And then they take that money and they develop these
• 2:04:39
  Speaker 2: projects that never see the light of day and they
• 2:04:41
  Speaker 2: all chop up the money behind the scenes.
• 2:04:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah. That's the reality of the world we live in, folks.
• 2:04:46
  Speaker 1: And if you're clinging on to this left versus right,
• 2:04:51
  Speaker 1: These culture war arguments. You are getting caught up in
• 2:04:54
  Speaker 1: their bullshit game. Most people want the same thing. They
• 2:04:57
  Speaker 1: want to be healthy. They want their family to be
• 2:05:00
  Speaker 1: healthy and happy. They want to have a pursuit that
• 2:05:02
  Speaker 1: they enjoy. They want to enjoy their community, enjoy their
• 2:05:05
  Speaker 1: loved ones. That's what most people want. Most people want
• 2:05:08
  Speaker 1: the same thing. Most of the shit that you're seeing
• 2:05:10
  Speaker 1: has all been stirred up by foreign governments and special
• 2:05:16
  Speaker 1: interest groups and a bunch of shit. And if you're online,
• 2:05:19
  Speaker 1: they're spoon feeding it to you. If you're online and
• 2:05:21
  Speaker 1: you're engaging on social media, they are shoving that down
• 2:05:24
  Speaker 1: your throat.
• 2:05:25
  Speaker 2: Gaslighting every day.
• 2:05:26
  Speaker 1: Gaslighting you every day. And it's more and more obvious
• 2:05:29
  Speaker 1: now that it's ever been before because people at least
• 2:05:31
  Speaker 1: are aware of it. They know what's going on. But
• 2:05:34
  Speaker 1: it's shocking how much of it is going on. And
• 2:05:36
  Speaker 1: it's allowing us to fight with each other why all
• 2:05:39
  Speaker 1: this shit is going on behind the scenes and all
• 2:05:41
  Speaker 1: these hundreds of billions of dollars. I mean we talked about.
• 2:05:43
  Speaker 1: $ 40 billion a year. What is the amount of money
• 2:05:46
  Speaker 1: we spent so far in Ukraine? They continue to raise it, right?
• 2:05:51
  Speaker 1: They just approved a new batch of money that's headed
• 2:05:56
  Speaker 1: over there. It's insane amounts of money.
• 2:05:58
  Speaker 2: The numbers are incredible. And we have infrastructure falling apart here.
• 2:06:02
  Speaker 2: I just came from L.A. a few weeks ago. People
• 2:06:03
  Speaker 2: on the streets of L.A.
• 2:06:05
  Speaker 1: Okay. So Congress passed five bills appropriating $ 175 billion in
• 2:06:11
  Speaker 1: response to Russia's February 22 evasion of Ukraine. So this
• 2:06:14
  Speaker 1: is May 9th of 2024, which is the most recent.
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  Speaker 1: So $ 175 billion, that could have solved all poverty in America. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Literally solved poverty.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Which is wild.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: If poverty and crime are our number one problem in
• 2:06:35
  Speaker 1: this country, which I would say they are.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: That would solve our number one problem.
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  Speaker 2: The crime is a side effect of the poverty.
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  Speaker 1: Yes. And, you know, I always said this. If Halliburton
• 2:06:48
  Speaker 1: can get these no-bid contracts to clean up Iraq after
• 2:06:50
  Speaker 1: we bomb it, and it's for profit, so they make
• 2:06:52
  Speaker 1: a lot of money doing that. How about a no-bid
• 2:06:55
  Speaker 1: contract to clean up terrible neighborhoods?
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  Speaker 2: Exactly.
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  Speaker 1: A no-bid contract to develop community programs, and they'll be
• 2:07:03
  Speaker 1: funded through the state. You'll make a ton of money.
• 2:07:06
  Speaker 1: You can do this. And also, you'll have a ripple effect.
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  Speaker 1: You'll have less crime. You'll have more people that are
• 2:07:10
  Speaker 1: out there in the workforce. You'll have more people that
• 2:07:12
  Speaker 1: are being productive, more people that are inventing things and
• 2:07:15
  Speaker 1: creating music and culture and art and all kinds of
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  Speaker 1: other things that people like to do when they're not
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  Speaker 1: getting locked up in fucking jail.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly.
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  Speaker 1: And then you just have to figure out a way
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  Speaker 1: to get off the grip of the military or the
• 2:07:25
  Speaker 1: rather prison industrial complex, which has a vested interest in
• 2:07:28
  Speaker 1: keeping people locked up because that's what they– the idea
• 2:07:31
  Speaker 1: that we let that happen. We let it be profitable
• 2:07:34
  Speaker 1: to put people in fucking jail and then we let
• 2:07:36
  Speaker 1: let the prison guards Actively campaign to make sure that
• 2:07:40
  Speaker 1: certain laws stay in place so that people keep getting
• 2:07:42
  Speaker 1: locked up for non-violent crimes.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah 40% of people that are locked up in
• 2:07:47
  Speaker 2: America are locked up on victimless crimes. Yeah, they only
• 2:07:50
  Speaker 2: hurt themselves.
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  Speaker 1: It's so nuts. Yeah, and the amount of money that's
• 2:07:54
  Speaker 1: generated by private prisons that should be zero It should
• 2:07:57
  Speaker 1: be zero dollars There should be no incentive to put
• 2:08:00
  Speaker 1: people in a cage.
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  Speaker 2: You can't have capitalism and everything capitalism has to be
• 2:08:04
  Speaker 2: broken into pieces. You can't have it in medicine health
• 2:08:07
  Speaker 2: care prison systems, right?
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  Speaker 1: Imagine if that was the way with the fire department
• 2:08:12
  Speaker 1: imagine you had to pay to get your house right
• 2:08:14
  Speaker 1: put out and Right. That's the one thing that we
• 2:08:17
  Speaker 1: exist that we rather accept rather universally that we pay for.
• 2:08:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: It's a socialist idea. The fire department is paid for
• 2:08:25
  Speaker 1: by the state.
• 2:08:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And we need fire department people. We need everybody well
• 2:08:29
  Speaker 1: trained and all the equipment to be working perfectly. We
• 2:08:31
  Speaker 1: all agree to that.
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  Speaker 3: Why?
• 2:08:31
  Speaker 1: Because it's a real dilemma.
• 2:08:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah. It makes sense. It's logic.
• 2:08:34
  Speaker 1: So's poverty.
• 2:08:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 2:08:36
  Speaker 1: So's crime.
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  Speaker 2: And mental health.
• 2:08:38
  Speaker 1: And mental health.
• 2:08:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And people on the street are mentally ill.
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  Speaker 1: And giving kids guidance, having community programs and having education
• 2:08:45
  Speaker 1: programs and giving people like an avenue where they can
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  Speaker 1: get out from where they are and see a path
• 2:08:51
  Speaker 1: to success so they don't feel despair. Yeah. They have
• 2:08:53
  Speaker 1: a possibility and show and have it be run by
• 2:08:56
  Speaker 1: people who have already made it through. Say, I can
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  Speaker 1: help you just like you could teach someone how to
• 2:09:00
  Speaker 1: play piano or you could teach someone how to do karate.
• 2:09:03
  Speaker 1: You can teach people how to live life.
• 2:09:04
  Speaker 2: That's right. Yeah. And, and.
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  Speaker 1: It costs a lot less than what it's costing Ukraine.
• 2:09:08
  Speaker 1: And how much would it benefit our economy? How much
• 2:09:11
  Speaker 1: would it benefit our culture, our society? How much more
• 2:09:14
  Speaker 1: would get done if there was less crime? A lot more.
• 2:09:17
  Speaker 1: And then those people, instead of being criminals, now they're contributors.
• 2:09:20
  Speaker 1: There's enough for everybody.
• 2:09:22
  Speaker 2: And as civilization grows, the way it should grow.
• 2:09:24
  Speaker 1: Yes, the way it should grow. The problem is it's
• 2:09:26
  Speaker 1: been captured. It's been captured by elites that want to
• 2:09:30
  Speaker 1: keep draining money. And they keep draining money and using
• 2:09:34
  Speaker 1: it for their own needs and their own means. And
• 2:09:36
  Speaker 1: it's terrifying.
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  Speaker 2: That's why I call it polytricks. Polytricks, that's what it's called.
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  Speaker 4: We made a pretty bad math error.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, $ 40 trillion. $ 40 trillion.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you, sir. That's much more of an issue. Ladies
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  Speaker 1: and gentlemen, I retrain. We're fucked. We're never going to
• 2:09:52
  Speaker 1: have enough money to fix this problem. I forgot what
• 2:09:54
  Speaker 1: I said. So what is our GDP? Yeah, but that's
• 2:09:58
  Speaker 1: a problem, too.
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  Speaker 2: Because that creates inflation.
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  Speaker 1: What's our GDP? Boy, there's a big difference between $ 40
• 2:10:03
  Speaker 1: trillion and $ 40 billion. How many people are yelling at
• 2:10:05
  Speaker 1: their computer? You fucking idiots.
• 2:10:07
  Speaker 2: I worked backwards.
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  Speaker 3: One of the things we did says $ 875. Like, wait,
• 2:10:10
  Speaker 3: that is not enough to get everybody out of here.
• 2:10:13
  Speaker 2: That's hilarious.
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  Speaker 3: GDP increased in 2023 to $ 27.
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  Speaker 2: 36 trillion.
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  Speaker 1: That's our GDP every year?
• 2:10:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 2:10:20
  Speaker 1: Oh, so we don't even have enough money because it
• 2:10:24
  Speaker 1: would take double our GDP.
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  Speaker 4: That's the $ 200K, if you want to.
• 2:10:28
  Speaker 2: Go to $ 200K. Yeah.
• 2:10:29
  Speaker 1: Well, you have to give people, it's only 200 million people.
• 2:10:31
  Speaker 1: It's not even everybody. Right.
• 2:10:33
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 2:10:34
  Speaker 1: So we're fucked. Back to we're fucked.
• 2:10:36
  Speaker 2: You just cut it down.
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  Speaker 4: Cut it in half, you could do it.
• 2:10:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but even then. If you have about $ 80, 000 and
• 2:10:44
  Speaker 2: then let people work to earn their own money and
• 2:10:46
  Speaker 2: other things.
• 2:10:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, $ 200, 000 was a little lofty. Okay, so if it
• 2:10:50
  Speaker 1: was $ 40 trillion, you could get it down to $ 15 trillion.
• 2:10:55
  Speaker 1: That's still most of the money we make. Yeah. It's
• 2:10:58
  Speaker 1: still a lot.
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  Speaker 2: It's going to increase, though, significantly in the next 10
• 2:11:01
  Speaker 2: years because of the AI.
• 2:11:03
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 2:11:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, all the chips and robots. When a company can
• 2:11:06
  Speaker 2: lay off like Amazon, lay off 1,000 people and replace
• 2:11:08
  Speaker 2: them with 1,000 robots, their profit margin goes up significantly
• 2:11:13
  Speaker 2: within the first 8 to 10 years.
• 2:11:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, what, if anything, is being done to provide a
• 2:11:17
  Speaker 1: safety net? Because you can't give people $ 200 a week.
• 2:11:20
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 2:11:21
  Speaker 1: Whatever it is, it's got to be a significant amount
• 2:11:23
  Speaker 1: of money to actually get by. Whatever that number is,
• 2:11:26
  Speaker 1: whatever we decide that number is, The number could be
• 2:11:29
  Speaker 1: less if things are covered, like if AI becomes so
• 2:11:33
  Speaker 1: efficient at creating power. We have it in our head
• 2:11:36
  Speaker 1: that power must be paid for. But if AI becomes
• 2:11:40
  Speaker 1: so efficient and eliminates jobs that we decide that we're
• 2:11:44
  Speaker 1: going to nationalize all of our power and that we'll
• 2:11:48
  Speaker 1: look at power the same way we look at the
• 2:11:49
  Speaker 1: fire department. Right. And we set it up as a
• 2:11:52
  Speaker 1: socialist power system. Which is not the worst idea in
• 2:11:55
  Speaker 1: the world if you consider that most power is being
• 2:11:57
  Speaker 1: generated by the use of natural resources, which really belong
• 2:12:00
  Speaker 1: to the earth. And that individuals are pulling these out
• 2:12:03
  Speaker 1: and profiting from them wildly, especially when they're doing offshore
• 2:12:07
  Speaker 1: oil drills. Who owns that spot?
• 2:12:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know.
• 2:12:09
  Speaker 1: How are you able to just suck all that oil
• 2:12:11
  Speaker 1: and make billions of dollars out of the ground that
• 2:12:14
  Speaker 1: we all live on? It seems like that should be everybody's.
• 2:12:16
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 2:12:17
  Speaker 1: But then you lose the incentive for profit that allows
• 2:12:19
  Speaker 1: you to go dig. True.
• 2:12:21
  Speaker 2: I think that everything is going to move. Not everything,
• 2:12:23
  Speaker 2: but a lot of power is going to move towards hydrogen.
• 2:12:27
  Speaker 2: That's the big new push. The Navy has vessels now
• 2:12:29
  Speaker 2: that run off of hydrogen, so they never have to
• 2:12:31
  Speaker 2: go refuel.
• 2:12:32
  Speaker 1: Do you know that Bob Lazar made a hydrogen Corvette
• 2:12:34
  Speaker 1: in like 1990?
• 2:12:36
  Speaker 2: Wow, incredible.
• 2:12:37
  Speaker 1: That's psycho. Yeah, wow. He was such a freak. He
• 2:12:41
  Speaker 1: is such a freak, but I love that dude. I'm
• 2:12:44
  Speaker 1: fascinated by him, and I don't know if he's telling
• 2:12:46
  Speaker 1: the truth, but boy, I hope he is. But, you know,
• 2:12:49
  Speaker 1: one of the Crazy stories about him was in the
• 2:12:52
  Speaker 1: Los Alamos Labs days when he was living there in
• 2:12:56
  Speaker 1: New Mexico. He developed a rocket-powered Honda. So he put
• 2:12:59
  Speaker 1: a jet engine on a fucking Honda.
• 2:13:01
  Speaker 2: Wow. A lot of time on his hands there.
• 2:13:04
  Speaker 1: Well, he's just a genius.
• 2:13:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a genius. He's an absolute genius. Look, he
• 2:13:07
  Speaker 2: talked about Element 115 before we discovered Element 115.
• 2:13:10
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 2:13:10
  Speaker 2: So that's what sold me on him.
• 2:13:12
  Speaker 1: Well, he also... has never really varied from his story. Yeah.
• 2:13:16
  Speaker 1: And to tell a story for more than 30 years
• 2:13:18
  Speaker 1: and tell the exact same story is pretty strange. Yeah.
• 2:13:21
  Speaker 1: And also didn't really profit off of it. No, it's
• 2:13:23
  Speaker 1: not like a thing that he's like selling Bob Lazar
• 2:13:25
  Speaker 1: t-shirts and, you know, Bob Lazar was right. Baseball hats
• 2:13:28
  Speaker 1: and constantly going on podcasts. No, he did my podcast. Yeah. Yeah.
• 2:13:32
  Speaker 1: I don't even know if he's done another one.
• 2:13:34
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I know he got, you know, a
• 2:13:35
  Speaker 2: lot of hell for it.
• 2:13:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:13:37
  Speaker 2: You know, and I was trying to.
• 2:13:38
  Speaker 1: Get him to come back on again, but he's, He's
• 2:13:40
  Speaker 1: working on it. Well, during the Jeremy Corbell documentary, the
• 2:13:43
  Speaker 1: FBI raided him.
• 2:13:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 2:13:45
  Speaker 1: Which is insane.
• 2:13:46
  Speaker 2: It's insane.
• 2:13:46
  Speaker 1: And he thinks that they believe that he has a
• 2:13:49
  Speaker 1: stable version of Element 115, that he has a sample
• 2:13:52
  Speaker 1: of it somewhere. Yeah. And so he thinks that's what
• 2:13:55
  Speaker 1: they went looking for.
• 2:13:56
  Speaker 2: They'd love to get their hands on that because the
• 2:13:58
  Speaker 2: decay rate is so fast.
• 2:13:59
  Speaker 1: Well, the video that... George Knapp had. There's a video
• 2:14:03
  Speaker 1: that George Knapp had from a long time ago where
• 2:14:06
  Speaker 1: he was demonstrating with George Knapp how this element, when
• 2:14:10
  Speaker 1: bombarded with radioactivity, could distort gravity. And he showed some,
• 2:14:15
  Speaker 1: he had some experiment that they did that we could
• 2:14:16
  Speaker 1: show with light and I don't exactly remember what the
• 2:14:20
  Speaker 1: parameters of the experiment were, but that thing is one
• 2:14:23
  Speaker 1: of the things that convinced George Knapp that maybe he's
• 2:14:25
  Speaker 1: telling the truth, and this whole thing is crazy. And
• 2:14:27
  Speaker 1: then when you see these images where it shows these
• 2:14:30
  Speaker 1: crafts behaving as he described, that this gravity projection generator,
• 2:14:36
  Speaker 1: whatever it is, this gravity generator, whatever this thing is,
• 2:14:39
  Speaker 1: they weren't exactly sure how to, at least back then
• 2:14:44
  Speaker 1: in 89, but that you would turn towards where you
• 2:14:47
  Speaker 1: wanted to go sideways, And that's how it would travel.
• 2:14:50
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 2:14:50
  Speaker 1: And they saw these videos of these crafts doing that,
• 2:14:53
  Speaker 1: of rotating. Yeah.
• 2:14:54
  Speaker 2: Same thing.
• 2:14:55
  Speaker 1: By fighter jets. So fighter jets are locked in on
• 2:14:57
  Speaker 1: them with these high-speed sensors, and they're locking in. And
• 2:15:01
  Speaker 1: there's like a video where they go, finally, I got
• 2:15:03
  Speaker 1: it locked in. Right. And they're like, look at it go.
• 2:15:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I heard that. Yeah.
• 2:15:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So you can find that video because that video
• 2:15:09
  Speaker 1: is one of my favorites because the pilots are so
• 2:15:12
  Speaker 1: genuinely excited about this. When they finally lock it in.
• 2:15:15
  Speaker 1: I think that's the go fast.
• 2:15:16
  Speaker 2: Go fast one.
• 2:15:17
  Speaker 1: The go fast one.
• 2:15:17
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 2:15:18
  Speaker 1: And they're like, oh, we got it. We got it
• 2:15:21
  Speaker 1: locked in. Like, what the fuck is this thing?
• 2:15:24
  Speaker 2: Have you researched any of the Vamanas from the ancient text?
• 2:15:27
  Speaker 1: Yes. That's very, very fascinating. Because they, in the Bhagavad Gita, in, what,
• 2:15:35
  Speaker 1: is this the one?
• 2:15:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 2:15:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, this is it. And in the Mahabharata, they
• 2:15:40
  Speaker 1: talk about these flying crafts. Like, what is this? Which
• 2:15:46
  Speaker 1: about here is actually U.S. fighter pilots? Powerful Raytheon. Displayer.
• 2:15:52
  Speaker 1: Pod display. How come I'm not hearing any voices? Oh,
• 2:16:01
  Speaker 1: there it goes. Yeah. There it goes. Oh, there's just
• 2:16:04
  Speaker 1: explaining how the display works, this Raytheon display, and how
• 2:16:08
  Speaker 1: these fighter jets are using this to try to lock
• 2:16:11
  Speaker 1: in on this thing. So look how it zooms in.
• 2:16:13
  Speaker 1: They see it pass by. It's going so fast, they're
• 2:16:16
  Speaker 1: trying to lock in on it, but they're having a
• 2:16:18
  Speaker 1: hard time. So they keep... adjusting, and they're trying to
• 2:16:21
  Speaker 1: get their sensors. Boom. So they got it.
• 2:16:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 2:16:26
  Speaker 1: Now they're excited.
• 2:16:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 2:16:32
  Speaker 1: What the fuck is that?
• 2:16:44
  Speaker 2: What is that?
• 2:16:45
  Speaker 1: Like, what the fuck is that?
• 2:16:46
  Speaker 2: That's right. It's wild, man.
• 2:16:47
  Speaker 1: What is that?
• 2:16:48
  Speaker 2: Like I said, I just see these things and I
• 2:16:49
  Speaker 2: go back to the, like, you know, the Vamanas. They
• 2:16:52
  Speaker 2: ran on a ferrofluid vortex engine.
• 2:16:54
  Speaker 1: That's how it was described?
• 2:16:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Ferrofluid. So they had liquid mercury.
• 2:16:57
  Speaker 1: Ferrofluid?
• 2:16:58
  Speaker 2: Ferrofluid, which is liquid metal. And so they put liquid
• 2:17:02
  Speaker 2: metal inside of them.
• 2:17:02
  Speaker 1: How do you spell that?
• 2:17:03
  Speaker 2: F-E-R-R-O. Ferro. Ferrofluid.
• 2:17:05
  Speaker 4: We used to have a ferrofluid lamp.
• 2:17:07
  Speaker 2: Really?
• 2:17:07
  Speaker 1: Remember?
• 2:17:08
  Speaker 4: I bought you that one thing. You, like, put a
• 2:17:09
  Speaker 4: magnet on it and the.
• 2:17:10
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. Where is that? Is that in storage?
• 2:17:13
  Speaker 2: Probably in storage.
• 2:17:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:17:14
  Speaker 2: So you put, if you take a torus.
• 2:17:17
  Speaker 1: We need a new one, Jamie. Order us a new one.
• 2:17:19
  Speaker 2: If you take a torus and you put a ferrofluid
• 2:17:21
  Speaker 2: like mercury inside of it and you magnetize the torus
• 2:17:25
  Speaker 2: in a way that creates this rotation, this RPM of
• 2:17:29
  Speaker 2: the mercury moving around that field and you get it
• 2:17:32
  Speaker 2: up to about 60,000 RPMs and then you actually pressurize
• 2:17:35
  Speaker 2: the torus to about 250,000 atmospheres and you electrify it,
• 2:17:39
  Speaker 2: you get anti-gravity properties. What?
• 2:17:42
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 2:17:45
  Speaker 2: So you can create an anti-gravity flying device utilizing that technique.
• 2:17:50
  Speaker 2: And this is really, you know, well-known.
• 2:17:51
  Speaker 1: And how do they describe it in the text?
• 2:17:53
  Speaker 2: In the text, they talk about the fact that it
• 2:17:55
  Speaker 2: used mercury in a rotating disc.
• 2:17:58
  Speaker 1: Really?
• 2:17:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And then they have some of the, you know,
• 2:18:00
  Speaker 2: the flight plans and some of the layout of actually
• 2:18:02
  Speaker 2: the plans of the actual ship itself, one of the ships.
• 2:18:06
  Speaker 2: And so from that, you can almost hypothesize or backward
• 2:18:09
  Speaker 2: engineer what it might have been able to do. And
• 2:18:11
  Speaker 2: in the text, it says they used to take a
• 2:18:13
  Speaker 2: complement of men to many worlds. So this is incredible technology.
• 2:18:16
  Speaker 1: A complement of men to many worlds.
• 2:18:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Wow. Yeah.
• 2:18:21
  Speaker 1: So do you think that the government has access to
• 2:18:23
  Speaker 1: something similar to that?
• 2:18:25
  Speaker 2: Oh, I believe so, 1,000%. I believe they've been backwards
• 2:18:28
  Speaker 2: engineering information from ancient texts and, of course, any artifacts
• 2:18:33
  Speaker 2: that they found from anywhere in the world. They might
• 2:18:35
  Speaker 2: have even gotten information from Saddam Hussein's museum, because that's
• 2:18:39
  Speaker 2: the first place we went in the Gulf after the
• 2:18:42
  Speaker 2: whole situation happened with wanting to go take him out
• 2:18:45
  Speaker 2: of power and kill him. They went straight to the museum.
• 2:18:48
  Speaker 1: So this, Jamie just pulled this up. It says, flying
• 2:18:50
  Speaker 1: with ferrofluids to solve this problem, L. Brad King, Ron
• 2:18:54
  Speaker 1: and Elaine Starr, professor in space systems at Michigan Tech,
• 2:18:57
  Speaker 1: is creating a new kind of microthruster that assembles itself
• 2:19:01
  Speaker 1: out of its own propellant when excited by a magnetic field.
• 2:19:04
  Speaker 1: The tiny thruster requires no fragile needles and is essentially indestructible.
• 2:19:09
  Speaker 1: We're working with unique material called ionic fluid ferrofluid, King says,
• 2:19:13
  Speaker 1: explaining that it's both magnetic and ionic, a liquid salt.
• 2:19:17
  Speaker 1: When we put a magnet underneath a small pool of ferrofluid,
• 2:19:20
  Speaker 1: it turns into a beautiful hedgehog structure of aligned peaks.
• 2:19:25
  Speaker 1: When we apply a strong electric field to that array
• 2:19:27
  Speaker 1: of peaks, each one emits an individual microjet of ions.
• 2:19:32
  Speaker 2: Exactly. You have to electrify it. Once you electrify it,
• 2:19:36
  Speaker 2: you create this electromagnetic activity.
• 2:19:38
  Speaker 1: This is what it looks like in.
• 2:19:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's just on two screws.
• 2:19:42
  Speaker 2: I think it's just transferring itself. Yeah, just giving you
• 2:19:44
  Speaker 2: how it transfers itself. Wow.
• 2:19:46
  Speaker 1: And so you could use that as something that could
• 2:19:48
  Speaker 1: propel a device.
• 2:19:50
  Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely.
• 2:19:52
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 2:19:52
  Speaker 2: And you don't get to reduce the gravity, the weight
• 2:19:55
  Speaker 2: of an object to zero, but you significantly reduce the
• 2:19:57
  Speaker 2: weight of an object.
• 2:19:59
  Speaker 1: And the fact that they figured this out and that
• 2:20:01
  Speaker 1: it's in, is it in the Mahabharata or the Bhagavad Gita?
• 2:20:04
  Speaker 2: In the Mahabharata. Wow. And also, I think there's one
• 2:20:08
  Speaker 2: account in the Vedas.
• 2:20:10
  Speaker 1: What's the explanation for how they figured that out? Help
• 2:20:12
  Speaker 1: me out. Help me out.
• 2:20:14
  Speaker 2: How the fuck? They say they have flying cities. They
• 2:20:17
  Speaker 2: say they have flying cities, and these cities would go
• 2:20:21
  Speaker 2: to battle sometimes against each other in the sky.
• 2:20:24
  Speaker 1: Oh, my God.
• 2:20:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So you're talking about massive objects flying around And how.
• 2:20:30
  Speaker 1: Do they explain that away? That's what I want to know.
• 2:20:33
  Speaker 1: How do you explain that away?
• 2:20:34
  Speaker 2: How do you explain somebody thousands of years ago sitting
• 2:20:36
  Speaker 2: down to write a sci-fi epic?
• 2:20:38
  Speaker 1: Well, not just that, but writing about a process of
• 2:20:42
  Speaker 1: creating this field that now has been documented all these
• 2:20:47
  Speaker 1: thousands of years later.
• 2:20:48
  Speaker 2: It works now.
• 2:20:49
  Speaker 1: How did you figure that out?
• 2:20:50
  Speaker 2: What were you guys doing? This happens over and over
• 2:20:53
  Speaker 2: again in text. In The Animal Tab, it's just a
• 2:20:54
  Speaker 2: book I wrote. Thoth talks about using cymatic frequencies and
• 2:20:58
  Speaker 2: light waves to create manifest solid matter. And what happened
• 2:21:03
  Speaker 2: about four years ago in a laboratory, they used cymatic
• 2:21:06
  Speaker 2: frequencies and photons to create solid matter out of nothing.
• 2:21:09
  Speaker 2: Just happened about four years ago.
• 2:21:10
  Speaker 1: What did they create?
• 2:21:12
  Speaker 2: They just create a few particles, you know. But the
• 2:21:14
  Speaker 2: fact that we can do it, but it was already
• 2:21:16
  Speaker 2: in ancient text.
• 2:21:18
  Speaker 1: Wow. So now we can do it on a very
• 2:21:20
  Speaker 1: small scale.
• 2:21:21
  Speaker 2: Very small scale.
• 2:21:21
  Speaker 1: Just like we can create element 115 with a collider.
• 2:21:24
  Speaker 2: Correct. Correct.
• 2:21:25
  Speaker 1: Same kind of thing. And it's a very small, unstable
• 2:21:28
  Speaker 1: version of element 115 that only exists for a fraction
• 2:21:30
  Speaker 1: of a second, but they can measure it.
• 2:21:32
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 2:21:32
  Speaker 1: But with sufficiently advanced technology, you could create it and
• 2:21:35
  Speaker 1: then form a stable version of that.
• 2:21:37
  Speaker 2: Right. Imagine being able to build an entire city by
• 2:21:40
  Speaker 2: manifesting the matter needed to build the city instead of
• 2:21:45
  Speaker 2: harvesting the city from rock.
• 2:21:47
  Speaker 1: 3D print the city with ions.
• 2:21:50
  Speaker 2: With nanobots. You would use nanobots to build the whole city.
• 2:21:53
  Speaker 2: It would manifest as it went.
• 2:21:55
  Speaker 1: And you could also use that to repair things.
• 2:21:58
  Speaker 2: Absolutely.
• 2:21:58
  Speaker 1: So you would never have to have, like, construction again.
• 2:22:01
  Speaker 1: Everything would be self-repairable. Correct. Self-repairable. Correct.
• 2:22:04
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 2:22:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, of course. If you just scale up, just
• 2:22:07
  Speaker 1: think about what we can do now and keep going,
• 2:22:10
  Speaker 1: make it much better and much more efficient.
• 2:22:11
  Speaker 2: We're talking about programmable matter now. Programmable matter.
• 2:22:16
  Speaker 1: And what you were saying about DNA, the fact that
• 2:22:18
  Speaker 1: you can encode into DNA and that you could actually
• 2:22:22
  Speaker 1: hold information in DNA.
• 2:22:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. Microsoft has created the very first DNA hard drive.
• 2:22:28
  Speaker 2: So it's a molecular hard drive that works on technology
• 2:22:33
  Speaker 2: that's hardware and also biological software. And so a device,
• 2:22:38
  Speaker 2: a hard drive the size of my cell phone, can
• 2:22:40
  Speaker 2: store an enormous amount of petabytes of data. So things
• 2:22:43
  Speaker 2: like teleportation are going to be possible in the near future.
• 2:22:46
  Speaker 2: We've already teleported, I think, a couple of particles from
• 2:22:49
  Speaker 2: Earth to the space station, right? But what's stopping us
• 2:22:51
  Speaker 2: from teleporting a human being? understanding and knowing the location
• 2:22:54
  Speaker 2: of every atom and the rotation and sperm rate of
• 2:22:56
  Speaker 2: every atom. That's a lot of information, a lot of
• 2:22:59
  Speaker 2: storage space. Now with DNA hard drives, the storage space
• 2:23:02
  Speaker 2: problem goes away. We'll be able to teleport biological beings
• 2:23:05
  Speaker 2: or objects, big objects, into space or wherever we want
• 2:23:08
  Speaker 2: on the planet. Like Star Trek. Like Star Trek. Whoa.
• 2:23:12
  Speaker 1: Who's going to be the first guy to get beamed up?
• 2:23:15
  Speaker 2: Somebody's going to be a real guinea pig for that one.
• 2:23:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we're going to have to find some pedophile.
• 2:23:18
  Speaker 2: Because when you teleport, you die. I don't know if
• 2:23:20
  Speaker 2: people know that. Oh.
• 2:23:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, that's a bit of an issue.
• 2:23:24
  Speaker 2: Teleport. I mean, you're reborn again instantly in the other location,
• 2:23:28
  Speaker 2: but it's a facsimile of you. Anytime you teleport, even
• 2:23:31
  Speaker 2: the molecules that we teleport now, the original version, the
• 2:23:34
  Speaker 2: original molecule or the starting matter, it's destroyed, and the
• 2:23:39
  Speaker 2: data is then transmitted, and then it's reformulated. So a
• 2:23:42
  Speaker 2: teleportation is actually the death of you and the reformation
• 2:23:47
  Speaker 2: of you.
• 2:23:47
  Speaker 1: Maybe they could do a better job, like an Instagram filter.
• 2:23:53
  Speaker 1: Maybe you could just tone a few things up, clean
• 2:23:56
  Speaker 1: up a little bit.
• 2:23:56
  Speaker 2: Get rid of some scars or whatever.
• 2:23:57
  Speaker 1: Get rid of some body fat.
• 2:23:59
  Speaker 2: Right, right.
• 2:23:59
  Speaker 1: Maybe they can make a better version of you, but
• 2:24:01
  Speaker 1: you have to be willing to die.
• 2:24:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 2:24:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but maybe that's hell. Maybe you come back and
• 2:24:06
  Speaker 1: you have no soul. Maybe when you teleport, your soul
• 2:24:08
  Speaker 1: doesn't go with you.
• 2:24:09
  Speaker 2: Well, they're transmitting your consciousness. So everything is saved. All
• 2:24:12
  Speaker 2: your information is saved. And we know that was done
• 2:24:13
  Speaker 2: also in ancient times. Thoth talks in the Emerald Tablets
• 2:24:16
  Speaker 2: about being able to go into these halls of Amenti
• 2:24:19
  Speaker 2: where he had rejuvenation chambers, which is what I believe
• 2:24:22
  Speaker 2: is the Serapium in Saqqara. And he would go into
• 2:24:25
  Speaker 2: these gigantic stone boxes and he would then transfer his
• 2:24:29
  Speaker 2: consciousness from his body into another body. And he would
• 2:24:32
  Speaker 2: leave the body that he left inside of one of
• 2:24:34
  Speaker 2: those gigantic boxes, one of those gigantic diorite stone boxes
• 2:24:38
  Speaker 2: for 100 years while it recharged itself and rejuvenated while
• 2:24:41
  Speaker 2: he said he walks amongst men but unlike a man. What? Yeah.
• 2:24:45
  Speaker 2: And he would do this for eons. He would transfer
• 2:24:48
  Speaker 2: from body to body, not bodies he stole, bodies he
• 2:24:50
  Speaker 2: created that he created himself through probably some advanced form
• 2:24:54
  Speaker 2: of stem cell technology. And he would walk amongst men
• 2:24:57
  Speaker 2: but unlike a man. And he was known all around
• 2:25:00
  Speaker 2: the planet because of this. The guy lived for, according
• 2:25:03
  Speaker 2: to the ancient Egyptians, he ruled over them for 16,000 years,
• 2:25:06
  Speaker 2: one person.
• 2:25:07
  Speaker 1: What? Yeah.
• 2:25:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 2:25:10
  Speaker 1: So is this those ancient texts, like the ancient hieroglyphs
• 2:25:13
  Speaker 1: that show kings going back like 30,000 years?
• 2:25:16
  Speaker 2: Well, that's the Sumerian kings list located in the Oshmolean
• 2:25:19
  Speaker 2: Museum in Oxford, England. I was there myself in person
• 2:25:22
  Speaker 2: to check out this stonework. And it's an incredible tablet
• 2:25:25
  Speaker 2: that talks about the reigns of kings. Some kings ruled
• 2:25:28
  Speaker 2: for 28,800 years, 14,000 years. I mean, 20,000. The numbers
• 2:25:33
  Speaker 2: are insane.
• 2:25:34
  Speaker 1: These are not Egyptian?
• 2:25:37
  Speaker 2: No, not Egyptian. These are Anunnaki. This is pre-flood. This
• 2:25:41
  Speaker 2: is antediluvial. And then when the flood comes, it talks about,
• 2:25:45
  Speaker 2: and then the flood swept over the land. After the
• 2:25:48
  Speaker 2: flood happens, then they descend kingship from heaven back down
• 2:25:53
  Speaker 2: to humans. And then the reigns of humans begin. But
• 2:25:57
  Speaker 2: they're not really full humans. They're demigods. They're half human,
• 2:26:00
  Speaker 2: half Anunnaki. And then their lifespans are, like, you know,
• 2:26:04
  Speaker 2: much shorter because their ruling times are only, like, 1,000
• 2:26:07
  Speaker 2: years and 800 years and 700 years. And it starts
• 2:26:09
  Speaker 2: to go down, down, down, down.
• 2:26:10
  Speaker 1: Which is why, like, Noah was 600 years old. Right.
• 2:26:13
  Speaker 2: Exactly.
• 2:26:13
  Speaker 1: So these tablets, what are they called again?
• 2:26:16
  Speaker 2: You're talking about the Sumerian kings list.
• 2:26:21
  Speaker 1: Can you show me that, Jamie?
• 2:26:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 2:26:22
  Speaker 1: I want to see what that looks like.
• 2:26:23
  Speaker 2: It's a giant four-sided tablet located in the Oshmolean Museum
• 2:26:27
  Speaker 2: in Oxford, England.
• 2:26:29
  Speaker 1: And so what exactly does it say?
• 2:26:32
  Speaker 2: It gives you the.
• 2:26:33
  Speaker 1: This is it right here?
• 2:26:33
  Speaker 2: That's it right there. Those are all four sides.
• 2:26:36
  Speaker 1: And how old is this?
• 2:26:37
  Speaker 2: This is, you know, they're saying 6,000, but.
• 2:26:39
  Speaker 1: Can you make it bigger, Jamie?
• 2:26:40
  Speaker 2: Believe me, it's much older than that.
• 2:26:43
  Speaker 1: I just want to look at it.
• 2:26:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Man. This is a copy of a copy of
• 2:26:47
  Speaker 2: a copy of a copy over tens of thousands of years,
• 2:26:50
  Speaker 2: in my opinion. But this text gives the reigns of
• 2:26:53
  Speaker 2: kings in shars, S-H-A-R. A shar is 3,600 years. So
• 2:27:00
  Speaker 2: one shar would be 3,600. 241,000 years of rule.
• 2:27:04
  Speaker 1: Whoa.
• 2:27:05
  Speaker 2: On that stone right there.
• 2:27:07
  Speaker 1: The Sumerian kings list. Now, if this is right, if
• 2:27:12
  Speaker 1: this is all true, what a mind-blowing idea.
• 2:27:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 2:27:17
  Speaker 1: That humans have been around, that we're engineered. Hundreds of
• 2:27:21
  Speaker 1: thousands of years ago. And that this is the reason
• 2:27:25
  Speaker 1: why there's this bizarre shift between lower primates and us,
• 2:27:30
  Speaker 1: which you don't see in any other animal.
• 2:27:32
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 2:27:32
  Speaker 1: There's nothing like it.
• 2:27:33
  Speaker 2: No.
• 2:27:34
  Speaker 1: There's nothing like us.
• 2:27:35
  Speaker 2: Look, we have 46 chromosomes, right?
• 2:27:37
  Speaker 1: Right. Chimpanzees have 48.
• 2:27:39
  Speaker 2: Exactly.
• 2:27:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:27:40
  Speaker 2: They discovered that chromosome number two was taken out. They
• 2:27:43
  Speaker 2: call it an artificial mutation. They. They mean geneticists. Fused
• 2:27:46
  Speaker 2: together and two telomere caps put on them. One telomere
• 2:27:49
  Speaker 2: cap on each side. Who in the world took chromosome
• 2:27:52
  Speaker 2: number two out, fused it together, and put telomere caps
• 2:27:54
  Speaker 2: on it? And they say that it happened an estimated 200,000
• 2:27:59
  Speaker 2: years ago, right at the time that Sumerians have a say,
• 2:28:01
  Speaker 2: they decided to make mankind to do the labor. There's
• 2:28:04
  Speaker 2: no coincidence that the tablets are aligning with modern science.
• 2:28:08
  Speaker 2: And this means that a couple of things. The first thing,
• 2:28:11
  Speaker 2: it means that we were genetically modified. The second thing
• 2:28:13
  Speaker 2: that it means is the telomere caps limit our lifespan
• 2:28:16
  Speaker 2: to about 120 years max, according to Harvard scientists. Now,
• 2:28:21
  Speaker 2: in the Bible, what does it say? It says that
• 2:28:23
  Speaker 2: my seed shall not abide in man forever. His year
• 2:28:25
  Speaker 2: shall be 120. That was taken from the Sumerian tablets
• 2:28:29
  Speaker 2: even further back than that. Thousands of years before the
• 2:28:31
  Speaker 2: Bible was written, when Yahweh, a.k.a. Enlil, shows back up,
• 2:28:36
  Speaker 2: sees the human beings building a tower into the heavens,
• 2:28:38
  Speaker 2: copying a tower that they themselves had built, it pissed
• 2:28:41
  Speaker 2: them off. And he said, whatever their hearts decide to do,
• 2:28:43
  Speaker 2: they shall achieve it. My seed shall not abide in man.
• 2:28:46
  Speaker 2: His years shall be 120. And then he did a
• 2:28:49
  Speaker 2: genetic modification at that point, I believe, with the telomeres.
• 2:28:52
  Speaker 2: And he spread mankind out around the planet. And he
• 2:28:54
  Speaker 2: confused their languages. He had us speaking different languages. So
• 2:28:57
  Speaker 2: we couldn't collaborate. Now we're in competition. No collaboration. Divide
• 2:29:01
  Speaker 2: and conquer.
• 2:29:02
  Speaker 1: And this is the Tower of Babel.
• 2:29:04
  Speaker 2: That's it. That's it, man.
• 2:29:05
  Speaker 1: So it was all done just to keep us from rising.
• 2:29:08
  Speaker 2: Yes. We were advancing too fast. And he had to
• 2:29:12
  Speaker 2: slow us down. If we shorten their lifespan... then they
• 2:29:15
  Speaker 2: won't have enough time. By the time they realize who
• 2:29:18
  Speaker 2: they are and what power they have, they'll be dead.
• 2:29:20
  Speaker 2: And see, that's what's happened to us.
• 2:29:22
  Speaker 1: So if the Anunnaki are real and Nibiru is real,
• 2:29:27
  Speaker 1: and Nibiru is on an elliptical cycle that comes between,
• 2:29:30
  Speaker 1: it's like Mars and Jupiter, right? Somewhere around there?
• 2:29:34
  Speaker 2: Well, it's further out now. Over time, its orbit has
• 2:29:36
  Speaker 2: been pushed out. And that's just one planet that these
• 2:29:38
  Speaker 2: Anunnaki people come from. They come from many planets.
• 2:29:41
  Speaker 1: But do you think that this planet, Nibiru, that's on
• 2:29:43
  Speaker 1: an elliptical orbit, If it's coming every 3,600 years, wouldn't
• 2:29:48
  Speaker 1: there be some sort of documentation 3,600 years ago, at
• 2:29:52
  Speaker 1: the very least?
• 2:29:53
  Speaker 2: Well, you have to look for geological disasters as marker points.
• 2:29:56
  Speaker 2: This object, this Nibiru planet, which is mentioned, by the way,
• 2:29:59
  Speaker 2: in the Enuma Elish. It's not a fabricated name, just
• 2:30:01
  Speaker 2: so people know that it's a real name. In the
• 2:30:03
  Speaker 2: Enuma Elish, the oldest version of the Enuma Elish, it
• 2:30:05
  Speaker 2: says Nibiru as one of the planets. But you look
• 2:30:09
  Speaker 2: at the time frame when this thing gets close. It
• 2:30:13
  Speaker 2: orbits another planet, another star. So it orbits a brown
• 2:30:16
  Speaker 2: dwarf star. This brown dwarf star has the same amount
• 2:30:19
  Speaker 2: of mass as our sun, but it's much smaller, right?
• 2:30:23
  Speaker 2: But it generates enough heat through friction in its orbiting planets.
• 2:30:27
  Speaker 2: You can see it in two-mass infrared mode coming out
• 2:30:30
  Speaker 2: of the constellation of Leo if you go to a
• 2:30:31
  Speaker 2: worldwide telescope and download the software and all of that.
• 2:30:34
  Speaker 2: But the fact that modern science now admit that there's
• 2:30:38
  Speaker 2: an object out there that they say orbit our sun
• 2:30:41
  Speaker 2: every 4,200 years.
• 2:30:43
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 2:30:44
  Speaker 2: And that's Corey Powell from Discovery Magazine. He's a real astronomer.
• 2:30:49
  Speaker 2: He's been on Fox News. He said that on Fox News.
• 2:30:51
  Speaker 2: If I can find the clip, I'll send it to you,
• 2:30:52
  Speaker 2: matter of fact.
• 2:30:54
  Speaker 1: We'll find it.
• 2:30:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll find it. Yeah, Fox News, Corey Powell. And
• 2:30:58
  Speaker 2: so what's happening is we are seeing evidence that there
• 2:31:02
  Speaker 2: is something out there that's orbiting our sun and that
• 2:31:05
  Speaker 2: our sun is a binary star system.
• 2:31:09
  Speaker 1: So.
• 2:31:10
  Speaker 2: We used to think that our sun, one sun in
• 2:31:12
  Speaker 2: the solar system is normal. But as they looked out
• 2:31:14
  Speaker 2: into space with Hubble and now the web, they discovered, no,
• 2:31:17
  Speaker 2: binary is more of the normal and even trinary. And
• 2:31:20
  Speaker 2: so it's like, wait a minute. If binary is normal,
• 2:31:23
  Speaker 2: they started looking for this object that gravitationally should exist.
• 2:31:26
  Speaker 2: And they believe that it's out there far beyond the
• 2:31:29
  Speaker 2: orbit of Pluto. And that, Corey Powell says, a solar
• 2:31:32
  Speaker 2: system exists within our solar system. And he goes on
• 2:31:34
  Speaker 2: to say, we come from there on Fox News, which
• 2:31:37
  Speaker 2: is just crazy. So.
• 2:31:40
  Speaker 1: The idea, if you follow Terrence Howard's theory, is that
• 2:31:45
  Speaker 1: matter comes from the sun. It moves away. It coalesces
• 2:31:48
  Speaker 1: into planets. It gets to a Goldilocks zone. Life comes
• 2:31:52
  Speaker 1: out of that. Life becomes far more intelligent as time
• 2:31:55
  Speaker 1: goes on, develops more capabilities, and then is also assisted
• 2:31:58
  Speaker 1: by other beings that have been through this process already.
• 2:32:02
  Speaker 1: And then if this scales out for hundreds of millions
• 2:32:05
  Speaker 1: of years, you get to a point where this Nibiru is,
• 2:32:10
  Speaker 1: or billions of years, or whatever it takes for it
• 2:32:12
  Speaker 1: to get all the way the fuck out.
• 2:32:13
  Speaker 2: Well, I estimate that they're about a million years ahead
• 2:32:15
  Speaker 2: of us technologically.
• 2:32:16
  Speaker 1: And then there's things that are millions of years ahead
• 2:32:19
  Speaker 1: of them.
• 2:32:19
  Speaker 2: Oh, way ahead of them. There's things that are far,
• 2:32:21
  Speaker 2: far ahead of them.
• 2:32:22
  Speaker 1: Which is, this is what's hard for us to scale out.
• 2:32:24
  Speaker 1: We like to think that aliens are flying spaceships, that's
• 2:32:28
  Speaker 1: the top of the food chain.
• 2:32:28
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 2:32:29
  Speaker 1: But not even close.
• 2:32:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Like I was saying before, I never got to it, really.
• 2:32:33
  Speaker 2: There's three types of beings I think that exist. One
• 2:32:35
  Speaker 2: is a physical corporeal being. That could be what we
• 2:32:37
  Speaker 2: see flying around in these UFOs, not all of them,
• 2:32:39
  Speaker 2: some of them, that visit us, that interact with us
• 2:32:41
  Speaker 2: in the ancient past. Not all are little green men,
• 2:32:44
  Speaker 2: but they have various different body types. The second kind
• 2:32:47
  Speaker 2: that I believe is potentially multidimensional beings, okay? That there's
• 2:32:51
  Speaker 2: life in every different dimension. And, you know, Michio Kaku
• 2:32:54
  Speaker 2: was famous for saying that the universe, they believe, has
• 2:32:57
  Speaker 2: 11 dimensions. So that's 11 dimensions. We're only in the third.
• 2:33:00
  Speaker 2: There's fourth, fifth, sixth, all the way up to 11
• 2:33:02
  Speaker 2: at least, or the universe, he says, would collapse. So...
• 2:33:05
  Speaker 2: If you're a being in a higher dimension, you can
• 2:33:07
  Speaker 2: see the past, present, and future all at once in
• 2:33:10
  Speaker 2: the third. And if you say, that's an interesting place,
• 2:33:12
  Speaker 2: I'd like to visit it. If you can actually create
• 2:33:15
  Speaker 2: a phase shift in your atomic frequency to match the
• 2:33:18
  Speaker 2: atomic frequency of this dimension, you can walk right in
• 2:33:21
  Speaker 2: and then you can walk right back. And then you
• 2:33:23
  Speaker 2: probably have something else that's outside of this entire universe
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  Speaker 2: that has the capability, maybe it is the creators of
• 2:33:30
  Speaker 2: the universe itself, which is why I wrote the book,
• 2:33:31
  Speaker 2: Fractal Holographic Universe. Maybe there's a creator or creator Outside
• 2:33:35
  Speaker 2: of this entire universe that has a hand in creating
• 2:33:38
  Speaker 2: this ancestor universe itself.
• 2:33:40
  Speaker 1: Well, it also makes sense that if you scaled intelligent
• 2:33:42
  Speaker 1: life up infinitely, you're going to reach a point where
• 2:33:46
  Speaker 1: you have godlike powers. This being or collection of beings,
• 2:33:50
  Speaker 1: this hive mind, whatever it is.
• 2:33:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: It could essentially, if given 100 million years, harness the
• 2:33:58
  Speaker 1: very power of the universe itself or maybe even create
• 2:34:00
  Speaker 1: the universe.
• 2:34:01
  Speaker 2: Create other universes.
• 2:34:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely. Absolutely.
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  Speaker 1: The ultimate mind blower, that intelligent life is the reason
• 2:34:07
  Speaker 1: why this thing exists, that it creates this thing.
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  Speaker 2: We're creating universes right now as human beings on this planet.
• 2:34:14
  Speaker 2: 14 college kids created a video game called No Man's Sky.
• 2:34:18
  Speaker 2: No Man's Sky is on one DVD disc, and it
• 2:34:20
  Speaker 2: has 80 quadrillion planets and unlimited life forms, and the
• 2:34:24
  Speaker 2: game never ends.
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  Speaker 1: We've talked about that, right? Yeah. That one's a weird one.
• 2:34:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah. But you put AI in it. Right. Then what's
• 2:34:30
  Speaker 2: going to happen?
• 2:34:31
  Speaker 1: Right. Scale up to a quantum computer.
• 2:34:32
  Speaker 2: Now, all of a sudden.
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  Speaker 1: And then have a virtual reality headset. Boom.
• 2:34:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah. The people in there, who are we? Where are
• 2:34:38
  Speaker 2: we from? What is the big bang? When we turn
• 2:34:40
  Speaker 2: to Collins alone, that's the big bang for you. Yeah. Sims.
• 2:34:43
  Speaker 2: The Sims are going to get AI now. They're going
• 2:34:46
  Speaker 2: to be asking questions. Right. They're going to be creating
• 2:34:49
  Speaker 2: their own software within the software and trying to build
• 2:34:51
  Speaker 2: their own copy of a universe. Right. We're not even
• 2:34:54
  Speaker 2: close to base reality. We're literally living in a stacked reality.
• 2:34:58
  Speaker 2: We're just one reality out of, who knows, Googles of
• 2:35:02
  Speaker 2: actual realities that exist.
• 2:35:03
  Speaker 1: Do you think the simulation theory has weight?
• 2:35:06
  Speaker 2: Oh, I believe so. I wrote a book about it.
• 2:35:09
  Speaker 2: That book is about the fractal holographic universe, and I
• 2:35:12
  Speaker 2: believe that we're living in a simulation.
• 2:35:13
  Speaker 1: It's not one of these books. You've got a stack
• 2:35:15
  Speaker 1: of them. How many books have you written?
• 2:35:17
  Speaker 2: Four. The one just came out today, The Fractal Holographic Universe.
• 2:35:20
  Speaker 2: This is the Emerald Tablets, The Epic of Humanity, and
• 2:35:22
  Speaker 2: my financial book, Woke Doesn't Mean Broke. Financial literacy book.
• 2:35:26
  Speaker 2: Not the political woke, either, but the real woke.
• 2:35:28
  Speaker 1: When did you start going down this road of exploring
• 2:35:33
  Speaker 1: all these interesting subjects?
• 2:35:35
  Speaker 2: Well, it was a long time ago, 1977 in Miami, Florida.
• 2:35:38
  Speaker 2: We moved from New York to Miami next to the
• 2:35:40
  Speaker 2: Opelika Airport, living in the hood. I used to go
• 2:35:43
  Speaker 2: out in the backyard. You know how it is back then.
• 2:35:45
  Speaker 2: No cable TV, no cell phones, no tablets. You just
• 2:35:48
  Speaker 2: go outside and play. So I'm outside in the backyard playing,
• 2:35:51
  Speaker 2: but I'm looking at the airplanes go over. And this
• 2:35:54
  Speaker 2: one day, this plane goes over, but it's not really
• 2:35:56
  Speaker 2: a plane. It clears the horizon in seconds, not minutes.
• 2:35:59
  Speaker 2: It just goes straight across. I know from as a
• 2:36:01
  Speaker 2: little kid, the planes take a long time to go
• 2:36:03
  Speaker 2: from one point to the other. And it went straight across.
• 2:36:06
  Speaker 2: And it was more like not a full size, not cigar,
• 2:36:10
  Speaker 2: but not an egg. Kind of in between the two.
• 2:36:13
  Speaker 2: Like a tic-tac. Almost like a tic-tac. Glowing metal.
• 2:36:15
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 2:36:16
  Speaker 2: And then it came back and it stopped right over me.
• 2:36:19
  Speaker 2: Completely silent. About now I can estimate about 250 meters.
• 2:36:22
  Speaker 2: And then it just went gone. And I ran in
• 2:36:25
  Speaker 2: the house and I told my mom. I told her, hey,
• 2:36:27
  Speaker 2: I can't believe what I just saw. And my mom
• 2:36:29
  Speaker 2: said to me. son, back in the day, there were
• 2:36:33
  Speaker 2: advanced beings that came to this planet. This is 1977.
• 2:36:35
  Speaker 2: Your mom told you this? Yeah. That's why I dedicated
• 2:36:38
  Speaker 2: the book to her. And she said they used to
• 2:36:41
  Speaker 2: live on tops of mountains like in Peru and Machu Picchu,
• 2:36:43
  Speaker 2: which is why one of the greatest places I ever went.
• 2:36:45
  Speaker 2: I had to go there. And so I went to
• 2:36:47
  Speaker 2: the library at Rainbow Park Elementary the next morning and
• 2:36:50
  Speaker 2: I told the teacher I have to go to the
• 2:36:51
  Speaker 2: library inside the school, Rainbow Park. And I said, I
• 2:36:54
  Speaker 2: need to get all the encyclopedias on On space, on aerospace.
• 2:36:57
  Speaker 2: And she gave me the encyclopedias on aerospace. And that's
• 2:36:59
  Speaker 2: when I started researching from that exact moment. Wow. And
• 2:37:02
  Speaker 2: I haven't stopped since.
• 2:37:03
  Speaker 1: So you were how old? Eight?
• 2:37:05
  Speaker 2: Seven.
• 2:37:06
  Speaker 1: Seven years old. Oh, my God. You just got locked in.
• 2:37:09
  Speaker 2: I got locked in. I started researching swept wing, delta wing, ballistics,
• 2:37:12
  Speaker 2: intercontinental ballistics. I'm looking at submarines. I'm looking at hovercraft
• 2:37:17
  Speaker 2: that existed way back then. Flying this that we had
• 2:37:19
  Speaker 2: created in the military way back then. You know, SR-71s
• 2:37:22
  Speaker 2: and all this stuff. And I'm trying to figure out
• 2:37:24
  Speaker 2: what the hell did I see and I couldn't find it.
• 2:37:26
  Speaker 2: But it took me down the path of technologies and
• 2:37:28
  Speaker 2: advanced technologies and aerospaces. information. And I kind of became
• 2:37:31
  Speaker 2: a quasi-aerospace historian. And that led me in further on
• 2:37:34
  Speaker 2: down the line to studying, you know, architecture and seeing
• 2:37:38
  Speaker 2: a connection between the two.
• 2:37:39
  Speaker 1: And you studied at both Harvard and MIT?
• 2:37:41
  Speaker 2: Harvard was for ancient civilizations. I took a class and
• 2:37:44
  Speaker 2: got a certificate in ancient civilizations. And at MIT, I
• 2:37:47
  Speaker 2: took a class in applied neuroscience and got a certificate
• 2:37:50
  Speaker 2: in applied neuroscience.
• 2:37:51
  Speaker 1: And are you just doing this for your own edification
• 2:37:53
  Speaker 1: just because you're interested in it?
• 2:37:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. Right now I'm enrolled again in MIT right
• 2:37:57
  Speaker 2: now for a class in AI.
• 2:38:00
  Speaker 1: And when you first got down this road, we're talking
• 2:38:04
  Speaker 1: about a time where there's no internet and you're just
• 2:38:07
  Speaker 1: like trying to make sense of some things.
• 2:38:09
  Speaker 2: Just trying to make sense, man.
• 2:38:11
  Speaker 1: And this one thing, have you ever seen anything since then?
• 2:38:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yes, actually, at Isetti Ranch in 2017, I believe
• 2:38:19
  Speaker 2: it was. We were out there. I was out there
• 2:38:21
  Speaker 2: to do a speak at this ranch in Washington State.
• 2:38:24
  Speaker 2: And it's down from the basin of Mount Shasta in
• 2:38:27
  Speaker 2: that area.
• 2:38:27
  Speaker 1: It's called Isetti Ranch?
• 2:38:28
  Speaker 2: Isetti. Oh, okay. Yeah, Isetti, E-C-E-T-I. It's like a private
• 2:38:32
  Speaker 2: kingdom in America, actually. It's a private, they've got registered
• 2:38:36
  Speaker 2: as a small kingdom. They don't even have mail or
• 2:38:38
  Speaker 2: anything there. It's a weird place. I had to stay
• 2:38:39
  Speaker 2: in a yurt. It's really crazy out there. But I
• 2:38:42
  Speaker 2: spoke there for a whole week. I had to get
• 2:38:44
  Speaker 2: used to it because nobody told me about this before
• 2:38:46
  Speaker 2: I got there.
• 2:38:46
  Speaker 1: You had to stay in a yurt for a week?
• 2:38:48
  Speaker 2: Stay in a yurt for a week.
• 2:38:49
  Speaker 1: Did they have running water?
• 2:38:51
  Speaker 2: At the community bathroom. Oh, boy.
• 2:38:53
  Speaker 1: A SETI?
• 2:38:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, a SETI.
• 2:38:55
  Speaker 1: Oh, Enlightened Contact with Extraterrestrial Intelligence. Oh, boy. So they're
• 2:38:59
  Speaker 1: just out there with no technology trying to talk to aliens.
• 2:39:02
  Speaker 2: No, no, just out there every night sky watching, basically.
• 2:39:04
  Speaker 1: Really?
• 2:39:05
  Speaker 2: And the video that we recorded.
• 2:39:06
  Speaker 1: Is that some rich, crazy person's idea?
• 2:39:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah. The video that we created that night watching those
• 2:39:14
  Speaker 2: UFOs in the sky actually made it onto an episode
• 2:39:16
  Speaker 2: that I made on ancient aliens. Oh. Yeah.
• 2:39:18
  Speaker 1: That show's the best show to get high to. You
• 2:39:20
  Speaker 1: ever see Action Bronson's show where he would watch ancient aliens?
• 2:39:22
  Speaker 1: They would just get stoned and watch ancient aliens? That
• 2:39:26
  Speaker 1: show's crazy.
• 2:39:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so we recorded some crazy footage in the skies there.
• 2:39:30
  Speaker 1: What did you see?
• 2:39:31
  Speaker 2: Well, they were giant disks flying around. Some were changing colors.
• 2:39:34
  Speaker 1: You have video footage of this?
• 2:39:36
  Speaker 2: It's on the app, but I sent it to Ancient Aliens.
• 2:39:38
  Speaker 2: See if you can find that. James Gilliland, the guy
• 2:39:41
  Speaker 2: who owns the ranch, licensed it and approved Ancient Aliens.
• 2:39:45
  Speaker 2: But if you go to Estetti Ranch YouTube videos, you
• 2:39:47
  Speaker 2: can probably find one right on YouTube right now. Wow. Yeah.
• 2:39:52
  Speaker 2: It was incredible.
• 2:39:53
  Speaker 1: So these folks are just out there trying to make contact?
• 2:39:57
  Speaker 2: Not trying to make contact, just watching.
• 2:39:58
  Speaker 1: Just watching.
• 2:39:59
  Speaker 2: Just like in amazement. There's no contact attempt there. Yeah,
• 2:40:03
  Speaker 2: there you go. That's it. I was there that night.
• 2:40:05
  Speaker 2: That video, I was standing there that night. And, you know,
• 2:40:10
  Speaker 2: there was a lot of activity that night. There was
• 2:40:11
  Speaker 2: some crazy stuff going on.
• 2:40:13
  Speaker 1: And what does this thing look like to the naked eye?
• 2:40:15
  Speaker 1: We're seeing very blurry, looks like zoomed in footage. Yeah.
• 2:40:18
  Speaker 1: What year is this from?
• 2:40:20
  Speaker 2: This is probably 18. There you go. So they didn't.
• 2:40:23
  Speaker 1: Have the Samsung Galaxy.
• 2:40:25
  Speaker 2: S24 Ultra Zoom. We didn't have that one back then.
• 2:40:30
  Speaker 2: But from the naked eye, it looks like these giant
• 2:40:32
  Speaker 2: glowing balls moving around. Sometimes they expand and they change colors.
• 2:40:37
  Speaker 2: Sometimes they descend right down by Mount Shasta, and then
• 2:40:40
  Speaker 2: you can see their lighting in the tree line, and
• 2:40:42
  Speaker 2: then they would go back up into space again. It
• 2:40:44
  Speaker 2: was just crazy stuff.
• 2:40:45
  Speaker 1: Have you seen that ball lightning that they get in
• 2:40:47
  Speaker 1: Texas that comes out of the mountains?
• 2:40:50
  Speaker 2: No, I saw one on a railroad track, though, ball lightning.
• 2:40:52
  Speaker 1: There's this phenomenon that happens in this one particular area
• 2:40:58
  Speaker 1: in Texas. What was it called? Marfa? Was that what
• 2:41:01
  Speaker 1: it's called, Jamie? I think it's Marfa. It's like this
• 2:41:04
  Speaker 1: bizarre artist community town, and they have frequent instances of
• 2:41:10
  Speaker 1: what they call the Marfa lights. Wow. And it's ball
• 2:41:13
  Speaker 1: lightning that flies around out there.
• 2:41:14
  Speaker 2: Wow, that's incredible.
• 2:41:15
  Speaker 1: You don't think that could be that?
• 2:41:16
  Speaker 2: No, because sometimes they would keep going until they just
• 2:41:18
  Speaker 2: went out into space.
• 2:41:20
  Speaker 1: Oh.
• 2:41:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and there were so many. Sometimes two would come
• 2:41:22
  Speaker 2: and they would encircle each other, and then one would
• 2:41:25
  Speaker 2: change direction and drop down by the mountain, and one
• 2:41:27
  Speaker 2: would just take off in another direction. Some would go
• 2:41:29
  Speaker 2: slow and then go, pew, and just go gone.
• 2:41:30
  Speaker 1: How frequent does this take place?
• 2:41:34
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I was only there for those seven nights.
• 2:41:35
  Speaker 2: I'd say the first night we were there, that was
• 2:41:37
  Speaker 2: when we saw like the 10 in the sky moving
• 2:41:38
  Speaker 2: around and doing things. The second night, not too much.
• 2:41:41
  Speaker 2: The third night was a little bit more, maybe four
• 2:41:42
  Speaker 2: or five.
• 2:41:43
  Speaker 1: So do you think that, What it is is that
• 2:41:45
  Speaker 1: this place has no light pollution and they picked a
• 2:41:48
  Speaker 1: very specific area that they knew these things occur in?
• 2:41:51
  Speaker 2: It's possible. No light pollution. And plus also maybe that's
• 2:41:54
  Speaker 2: an area where they have an opening or access or
• 2:41:57
  Speaker 2: I don't know. Who knows? I'm just now speculating now.
• 2:41:59
  Speaker 2: But I don't know why. People came from all over
• 2:42:02
  Speaker 2: the world to that location the week I was there
• 2:42:05
  Speaker 2: to just camp out and look up at the sky.
• 2:42:09
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 2:42:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 2:42:10
  Speaker 1: Listen, man, we covered a lot.
• 2:42:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 2:42:12
  Speaker 1: Three hours. I really appreciate your time and I appreciate
• 2:42:16
  Speaker 1: all the stuff you put out there. It's so fun.
• 2:42:17
  Speaker 1: It's so fascinating. And it's so interesting. And thank you
• 2:42:21
  Speaker 1: very much for being here, man. I really had a
• 2:42:22
  Speaker 1: good time.
• 2:42:23
  Speaker 2: I enjoyed it, man. Thank you. Thank you.
• 2:42:24
  Speaker 1: Please tell everybody how to find your website, all your
• 2:42:27
  Speaker 1: social media, all that stuff. Yeah.
• 2:42:29
  Speaker 2: Well, first of all, I have my own streaming TV
• 2:42:30
  Speaker 2: network called Forbidden Knowledge TV. It's an app on the
• 2:42:33
  Speaker 2: App Store. So they can just go get the Forbidden
• 2:42:35
  Speaker 2: Knowledge TV app with the number four, Forbidden Knowledge. And
• 2:42:39
  Speaker 2: they can get access to a lot of videos and
• 2:42:40
  Speaker 2: stuff that you can't find on YouTube or anywhere else.
• 2:42:42
  Speaker 2: You know, produce shows like the one you watched. My
• 2:42:44
  Speaker 2: Anunnaki series is on the Forbidden Knowledge TV app. And,
• 2:42:48
  Speaker 2: of course, I have all my books on our website,
• 2:42:51
  Speaker 2: Forbidden Knowledge TV, on Amazon as well. And just everything
• 2:42:55
  Speaker 2: Forbidden Knowledge with the number four. Four, B-I-D-D-E-N. Forbidden.
• 2:42:59
  Speaker 1: There it is. We'll do this again, man. I think
• 2:43:01
  Speaker 1: we could talk for like 50 days.
• 2:43:03
  Speaker 2: I know. I know. For sure.
• 2:43:04
  Speaker 1: Thank you, Billy. Appreciate you, man. Bye, everybody.