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The Bolt Report | 5 September · The Bolt Report

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Speaker 1: East, the reform it.
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Speaker 2: Tonight, former labor leader Bill Shorton quits the owen eazy government.
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Speaker 2: Is he quitting a sinking ship. I'll talk to his
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Speaker 2: former chief of staff, and it's war. The Reserve Bank
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Speaker 2: governor today gives the Treasurer a lesson in basic economics
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Speaker 2: after he accuse her of smashing the economy. Or so
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Speaker 2: tonight the ABC now down to playground abuse of Donald Trump.
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Speaker 2: Has it no shame or standards. But I'll talk to
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Speaker 2: a giant of journalism. It's just quit after teaching me
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Speaker 2: what journalism really is. Rule one, be fearless. Plenty more tonight,
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Speaker 2: including Barnaby Joyce. But first, first, two quick things to
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Speaker 2: get off my chest before I get into something that
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Speaker 2: again exposes the weakness of the oben eazy government in
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Speaker 2: confronting Muslim radicals.
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Speaker 3: But to these two things.
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Speaker 2: They both touch on events that have fed my distrust
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Speaker 2: of our legal system and helped me go from that
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Speaker 2: obedient little Dutch boy who thought all the laws the
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Speaker 2: law into some now properly skeptical of everything.
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Speaker 3: The first, Jeff Clark, he's one of the.
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Speaker 2: Lighter skinned Aborigines who persuaded a federal court judge who
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Speaker 2: was of the left to ban two of my articles,
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Speaker 2: to call them racially discriminatory.
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Speaker 3: I'll actually have a bumbshell of revelation on that.
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Speaker 2: Case next week that will have egg all over the
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Speaker 2: faces of quite a few people. But to Clark, Clark
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Speaker 2: in that case claimed I'd really hurt his feelings and
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Speaker 2: the feelings of so many Aborigines like him, in part
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Speaker 2: by pointing out that while they identified solely as Aboriginal,
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Speaker 2: his father was British. Well, if anyone has hurt the
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Speaker 2: feelings of our Aborigines, it should be Clark. He was
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Speaker 2: head of the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Commission until
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Speaker 2: it was scrapped among allegations of gross mismanagement and misuse
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Speaker 2: of resources. And now Clark himself has been found guilty
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Speaker 2: of stealing one million dollars that was helped meant to
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Speaker 2: help Aborigines, not just him. This is the example of
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Speaker 2: why aboriginies today he should spend less time complaining about
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Speaker 2: how whites robbed them two hundred years ago and ask
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Speaker 2: how some Aboriginal leaders are betraying them today. And the
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Speaker 2: second item, Victoria's Chief Justice and Ferguson has just announced
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Speaker 2: you'll retire from the Supreme Court, but I'm still waiting
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Speaker 2: for her to apologize for her partner of the most
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Speaker 2: gross miscarriages of justice in.
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Speaker 3: Australian legal history.
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Speaker 2: Ferguson was one of the two judges of overruled whoever
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Speaker 2: ruled a third one and turned down the first appeal
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Speaker 2: of Cardinal George Pell against this plainly wrong conviction for
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Speaker 2: suposedly sexually abusing two teenage boys at once, straight after
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Speaker 2: mass and a busy sacristry with the door open as
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Speaker 2: if Now, as I've shown before, and as the third
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Speaker 2: judge on that Court of appeal brilliantly explained, the case
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Speaker 2: against Pell was nuts. Neither Pell nor his single accuser
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Speaker 2: could have been at the scene of the crime at
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Speaker 2: the only time the crime could have been committed. The
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Speaker 2: other alleged victim, by the way, said he was not abused.
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Speaker 2: Yet Ferguson turned down Pell's appeal, claiming the lone accuser
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Speaker 2: looked like a man telling the truth. How he looked
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Speaker 2: seemed to count for more than the facts that were
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Speaker 2: against him, so it was no wonder. The Australiers High
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Speaker 2: Court later ruled seven judges to nil that Ferguson and
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Speaker 2: her fellow judge Chris Maxwell were wrong and they freed
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Speaker 2: pell as an innocent man. But of course, well by
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Speaker 2: then it served another seven and a half months in
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Speaker 2: jail after Ferguson's ruling for a crime he could not
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Speaker 2: have committed. And now she's retired. Good, but a sorry
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Speaker 2: is called for. Trust in the law in Victoria should
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Speaker 2: be restored. The show to a fresh reason to day
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Speaker 2: to asked why the Albany is a government so dangerously
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Speaker 2: weak on Islamic radicalism? Do you know there's been not
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Speaker 2: a word of criticism today from the government for a
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Speaker 2: candidate who retweeted a post seeming to celebrate the mass
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Speaker 2: murder of Jews an election candidate. It's stunning, it's shocking.
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Speaker 2: Home affairs mister Tony Burke. He holds the Western Sydney
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Speaker 2: seat of Watson, where about thirty percent of voters a
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Speaker 2: Muslim after redistribution thirty percent. Now a new Muslim pressure
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Speaker 2: group called Muslim Votes Matter. I've told you about them
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Speaker 2: a few days ago, is now attacking him, telling Muslim this,
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Speaker 2: Tony Burke is still not anti Israel enough, although I
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Speaker 2: thought it was already pandering like crazy.
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Speaker 3: To the Muslim lobby.
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Speaker 2: Burke also has a Muslim doctor running against him in
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Speaker 2: this selection in Watson, doctor Zid Bazuni, who we now
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Speaker 2: learn retweeted this tweet just five days after he must
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Speaker 2: terrorists last October started this war with Israel by slaughtering
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Speaker 2: twelve hundred Jews, raping women, beheading men, and kidnapping two
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Speaker 2: hundred and fifty one people, including babies. You see a
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Speaker 2: paraglider firing at the ground, a paraglider pilot firing at
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Speaker 2: the ground, just like the paragliding terrorists who killed Jews
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Speaker 2: at a dance festival.
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Speaker 3: That's the direct reference.
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Speaker 2: And there's a symbol also of the terrorists in Tafada,
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Speaker 2: all with the words in Arabic dreams my friend come
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Speaker 2: true for those who seek and work for them to
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Speaker 2: come true. So then you have praise for the slaughter
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Speaker 2: and rape and kidnapping of civilians Jews from someone running
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Speaker 2: as a candidate for our parliament. Now, if you can't
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Speaker 2: condemn that, then I got to ask who the hell
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Speaker 2: are you and should you be in parliament? Which is
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Speaker 2: a good question because when this Adny Morning Herald broke
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Speaker 2: this story, Burke's spokesman actually refused to comment. Now were
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Speaker 2: now Julia Bradley asked for comment whether Burke condemned this
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Speaker 2: doctor Bazuni was supposedly a free kick. She was sent
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Speaker 2: a bizarre statement that actually gaslighted her and said nothing
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Speaker 2: about bas Uni. He said, I've repeatedly condemned the atrocities
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Speaker 2: of October seven and anyone celebrating them. I find a
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Speaker 2: bewildering that anyone is checking to find out of a
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Speaker 2: stillhole disposition.
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Speaker 3: Of course I do.
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Speaker 2: Not a word of criticism directed specifically to his Muslim opponent.
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Speaker 2: It is as if Burt doesn't dare offend any moss them.
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Speaker 2: And remember this is the man who decides who we
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Speaker 2: let into this country. Is also the immigration minister who's
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Speaker 2: refused to criticize the head of ASIO, a top spy boss,
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Speaker 2: when that boss said Asia would not stop Palas in
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Speaker 2: his coming here, who said they supported Hamas as long
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Speaker 2: as they just said it did not.
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Speaker 3: Support the ideology.
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Speaker 2: So I think you're get in the picture here and
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Speaker 2: getting it from the silence today the Prime Minister as well.
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Speaker 2: This is labor countailing to voters they think might support
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Speaker 2: terrorists and jew haters, not daring to speak out, and
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Speaker 2: Labor has meanwhile also making preference deals with the Greens,
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Speaker 2: the party that's doing most to attack, and Villifi Israel,
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Speaker 2: the opposition leader today called them out.
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Speaker 4: The independent candidate in Tony Burk's seat needs to be
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Speaker 4: held to account. The Prime Minister needs to stand up
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Speaker 4: today and to say that he will not.
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Speaker 5: Take or receive any preferences.
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Speaker 4: From this independent candidate in Tiny Burke's seat. Tony Burke
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Speaker 4: needs to stand up and say that he will not
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Speaker 4: accept or give preferences to this independent candidate who has
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Speaker 4: sought to support the glorification of the slaughter of twelve
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Speaker 4: hundred people in the October seven attacks.
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Speaker 2: Now he's right, but I would have gone further and
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Speaker 2: say Labour should make no preference deals with the poisonous
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Speaker 2: Greens either. And you got to ask why has Labor
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Speaker 2: not said straight off today we will make no deal
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Speaker 2: that would get this doctor into Parliament with his views.
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Speaker 3: We will keep him out. Why not draw your own conclusion.
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Speaker 2: Now what I just told you, There was one reason
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Speaker 2: I was shocked today to hear that indos Minster Bill
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Speaker 2: Shorten is quitting the Albanizer government, quitting politics in February,
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Speaker 2: after twice leading Labor to an election and twice losing.
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Speaker 3: The last only just.
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Speaker 2: Well taking Malcolm Turnbulls and before that he took Malcolm
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Speaker 2: Turnbules Liberals to the wire.
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Speaker 6: I've decided not to seek a seventh term in Parliament.
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Speaker 6: My actions are my choice.
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Speaker 3: And that's true.
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Speaker 2: So the Prime Minister who shortens big ravel from the left,
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Speaker 2: I did not push him out.
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Speaker 7: Bill and I have had a number of conversations over
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Speaker 7: this about this over a period of time.
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Speaker 2: No, I think we can be sure that if Bill
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Speaker 2: Shorton is leaving, it is because he is given up
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Speaker 2: on this government. He has given up also on ever
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Speaker 2: becoming a Labor leader again, and as he also said today,
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Speaker 2: has now got a great new job vice Chancellor of
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Speaker 2: Cambell University. With the last bloke got a crazy salary
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Speaker 2: of nearly one point eight million dollars a year. But
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Speaker 2: in the meantime Shorten is staying loyal to Labor, is
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Speaker 2: keeping his growing frustration with the Avenezer government.
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Speaker 6: Himself, I genuinely consider myself to be one of the
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Speaker 6: luckiest people in politics. I've been the member from Aravnon.
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Speaker 6: It's a community I love so much I've had the
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Speaker 6: privilege to serve in portfolios that I care about. It
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Speaker 6: was the Bushfire Reconstruction, Industrial Relations Superannuation when I first
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Speaker 6: came here, the Junior Minister for Disabilities, and now the
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Speaker 6: Minister for the National Disability Insurance Scheme, and for nearly
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Speaker 6: six years I had the very amazing privilege of serving
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Speaker 6: as leader of our party and the movement, which has
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Speaker 6: been such an irreplaceable part of my life.
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Speaker 2: But here's the huge worry. Bill Shorten is of the
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Speaker 2: shrinking labor right faction. It has always been in the
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Speaker 2: Bob Hawke style, both as a union boss and then
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Speaker 2: a labor leader, strongly pro Israel, pro American, pro common sense,
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Speaker 2: but now is on the outer in a government of
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Speaker 2: the hard left, the wokest government in our history. Joining
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Speaker 2: me is Bill Shorten's former chief of staff when he
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Speaker 2: was the Opposition leader, Cameron Milner, who's now director of
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Speaker 2: g Exos Strategies and a regular commentator on the Bolt Report.
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Speaker 3: Cameron, thank you so much for your time.
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Speaker 2: Why do you think Bill shaw thank you his going
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Speaker 2: is it because he thinks the Albanizi government is heading
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Speaker 2: for the cliff?
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Speaker 1: Well?
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Speaker 8: I think he had an offer too good to refuse.
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Speaker 8: He had the opportunity to work with twenty people who
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Speaker 8: are really competent, who wanted real change for the thousands
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Speaker 8: of students at the University of Canberra, to make their
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Speaker 8: lives better and to produce great outcomes, rather than sit
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Speaker 8: around the Albani's cabinet. The reality is that Bill, though,
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Speaker 8: is choosing the time and leaving of his own choice,
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Speaker 8: which is a rare thing in politics. Ander, I mean,
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Speaker 8: most people either get stabbed in the back or have
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Speaker 8: to get vote out to leave their office. That's I
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Speaker 8: think the fate for Albanize, the way he's treating this
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Speaker 8: government and treating voters with contempt.
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Speaker 1: But I think Bill got there. He's done a.
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Speaker 8: Great thing with the NDIS that will be remembered like
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Speaker 8: medicare as a great social construct for the benefit of
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Speaker 8: all Australians.
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Speaker 1: So he's done that great work.
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Speaker 8: But Dees, as I said, he's got the opportunity to
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Speaker 8: go and do great things with really competent people who
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Speaker 8: are really good at their jobs, who actually what to
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Speaker 8: affect real change, and that's at the University of Canberra.
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Speaker 2: Well, I suspect that a number of people might regard
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Speaker 2: the Indias as a great sinking whole of funds. I mean,
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Speaker 2: it's just been incredible. I know he's trying to rain
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Speaker 2: it in Bill's but no one has banished it.
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Speaker 1: Bill's reforms last week.
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Speaker 8: Bill's reforms last week in the Parliament have set that
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Speaker 8: straight though, with the support of the Coalition.
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Speaker 1: And indeed people like Pauline Hanson.
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Speaker 2: Well not quite, because it's the fund. It still projects growing, growing, growing,
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Speaker 2: call on income, so we shall sit on taxes, so
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Speaker 2: we shall see. But leave that to one side. Bill
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Speaker 2: one has been leader of the Labored Right in a
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Speaker 2: government that's lurched way to the left. Look at what
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Speaker 2: it's doing to Israel for instance. Now I know he's
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Speaker 2: been increasingly isolated, but losing him now completely to this
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Speaker 2: government that's got to be a big loss.
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Speaker 8: Well it's a huge loss, but it's the choice of
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Speaker 8: the leadership of the of the alp Right.
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Speaker 1: I mean, they've sidelined Bill.
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Speaker 8: They tried to finish him off from being a minister
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Speaker 8: at the start of Albanize governor. Imagine not having him
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Speaker 8: there in this particular cabinet. Richard Miles runs the National Right.
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Speaker 8: Richard Miles, when when Bill was in the Victorian Right.
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Speaker 8: It was fifty plus one Coffintoria.
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Speaker 2: That surprise you saying that I can I just I
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Speaker 2: want to register a little dissent there. Richard Miles does
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Speaker 2: not run the Labor Right. He has been run over
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Speaker 2: with the Labor Right. I mean he is nothing short that's.
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Speaker 1: Right, but no under and the under Richard Miles.
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Speaker 8: Their leadership with Victorian Right, it's trunk to twenty percent.
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Speaker 1: They used to meet in the meeting room. Now they
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Speaker 1: can meet in Richard Miles's closet. They're so small.
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Speaker 8: So look, no, I mean the reality is the right
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Speaker 8: in Victoria, it has been smashed. In New South Wales
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Speaker 8: it's completely compromised, compromised by Chinese money and their position
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Speaker 8: on Gaza and the position on the Middle East. And
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Speaker 8: in Queensland, look, I think they could even meet a
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Speaker 8: cricket team. So Victoria, New South Wales and Queensland right
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Speaker 8: have been smashed. They're not what they used to be.
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Speaker 8: The left control those states and dominant. John Farrell is
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Speaker 8: the last vastian of centrist thinking in the Labor Party,
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Speaker 8: but he's in the Senate and he's got a small
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Speaker 8: group of people. So Albanie runs the show the left
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Speaker 8: run of the show, and it's not what it once
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Speaker 8: used to be. But ultimately the test, Andrew is the voters.
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Speaker 8: Voters of Australia get to choose whether the Labour Party
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Speaker 8: can be as left as they are and as extreme
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Speaker 8: as they are on so many issues that centrist Australians,
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Speaker 8: moderate Australians don't agree with them on.
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Speaker 2: I disagreed with the number of the policies that Bill
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Speaker 2: Shorton presented and I was struck and I talked to
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Speaker 2: colleagues of his about how he should improve his performance
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Speaker 2: because he just seems insincere as soon as he gets
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Speaker 2: in front of a TV camera, which I think is
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Speaker 2: unfair in a.
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Speaker 3: Lot of ways. I think he's been.
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Speaker 2: Public service minded, He's been pretty honest as far as
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Speaker 2: I can tell, and he is sincere about what he wants.
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Speaker 2: And I noted that he got warm tributes today from
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Speaker 2: Peter Dutton and Tony Abbott, among others. What does vators
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Speaker 2: get about him because he lost one election, he nearly
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Speaker 2: pulled off a miracle win and then he happened to
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Speaker 2: pull off a miracle loss against Malcolm Turmbul of all people.
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Speaker 8: Well, I think the thing is that Bill started from
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Speaker 8: a very long way behind. So after the shambles of
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Speaker 8: rud Gillard Rudd, we had fifty five seats in the
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Speaker 8: Federal Parliament and he had to start from a very
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Speaker 8: low base and he got within one seat one seat.
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Speaker 8: He finished off Tony Abott and almost finished off Malcolm Turmbule.
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Speaker 8: Now Malcolm Turnbull's involved a lot of self harm as
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Speaker 8: the Prime minister, so you know, he helped, He helped
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Speaker 8: a lot in that campaign, but ultimately Bill was a
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Speaker 8: head in all those news polls. But I think what
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Speaker 8: happened in twenty nineteen when Malcolm Turnbull was run over
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Speaker 8: by Scott Morrison was Labor failed to reset. Labor didn't
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Speaker 8: realize that up against a different opponent. So I think,
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Speaker 8: I think, you know, looking back, twenty nineteen and twenty
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Speaker 8: sixteen were all about conviction politicians politics, putting your ideas
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Speaker 8: before the people and asking for them to vote for it,
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Speaker 8: rather than slipping and sliding into office the way Albo did.
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Speaker 8: And then what happens when he gets to government. I mean,
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Speaker 8: so at least Shorten had the conviction of his own background,
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Speaker 8: his own labor values and wanted to put a mandate
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Speaker 8: before the people of Australia unlike his successor. And look
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Speaker 8: how bad Albanize has been in government. So look, I
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Speaker 8: think personally Bill Shorton would have been a great prime
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Speaker 8: minister Andrew, but that's not the opportunity he's been given.
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Speaker 2: Well, I suspect he would have been better than Malcolm Turnbul.
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Speaker 2: I've got to be honest with you, Cameron, Cameron Milner,
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Speaker 2: thank you so much. In deedfuse it's a low bar.
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Speaker 2: It's a low ah turned out to be. I got
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Speaker 2: maybe that one wrong. But now to a sign of
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Speaker 2: the madhouse. This country has become an example of why
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Speaker 2: strands are getting poorer and fast. We saw yesterday the
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Speaker 2: economy growing just one percent over the year one percent,
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Speaker 2: bet our population by two percent, so we were getting poorer.
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Speaker 2: There was actually a brawl today about this, a very
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Speaker 2: polite berwal but very important and extraordinary. The Governor of
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Speaker 2: the Reserve Bank, Michelle Bullock. She gave the Treasurer of
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Speaker 2: this failing government a lesson in basic economics. Now, as
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Speaker 2: you know, treasure Jim Charms has been going around blaming Bullock,
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Speaker 2: the woman he himself picked as this governor, for quote
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Speaker 2: smashing the economy by keeping interest rates too high. Well,
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Speaker 2: Bullock today wasn't putting up with that nonsense. Even though
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Speaker 2: she tried to play down this brawl or this war
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Speaker 2: with the treasurer.
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Speaker 4: The opposition leader has said today that you and the
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Speaker 4: treasurer are out war or are you.
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Speaker 9: Ill? He's doing his job and I'm doing mine. I
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Speaker 9: wouldn't use those sorts of words, so.
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Speaker 2: Bully wouldn't use those words, but she would, and she
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Speaker 2: wouldn't say anything directly about Chums, by the way, but
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Speaker 2: she did point out that she was not smashing the economy.
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Speaker 2: What was really hurting voters was the high inflation that
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Speaker 2: is causing part of the high spending of you know who.
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Speaker 2: High interest rates hurt home bars especially, but high inflation
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Speaker 2: that hurts everyone and hurts the poor most. Wonder if
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Speaker 2: Chums remembers them his bullet.
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Speaker 9: I understand that people are hurting from high interest rates.
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Speaker 9: I do understand that. But I think, as I tried
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Speaker 9: to set out in the speech, it's actually high inflation
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Speaker 9: that is really causing trouble for people, and it's causing
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Speaker 9: trouble for the most folnerable. It's affecting everyone. If we
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Speaker 9: don't get inflation down it's bad for everyone.
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Speaker 3: Now.
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Speaker 2: I can't remember the last time in Reserve Bank government
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Speaker 2: has to publicly explain the basics of economic.
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Speaker 3: Life to a treasurer.
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Speaker 2: And in this particular war, I know who the baddies
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Speaker 2: are joining me is our Thursday Regular Nationals Frontventure Barnaby Joyce,
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Speaker 2: the former Deputy Prime Minister Barnaby. Before I get to
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Speaker 2: this brawl, Bill Shorten quitting politics, what does that tell you?
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Speaker 10: It worries me.
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Speaker 11: It means that the moderate side of the Labor Party
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Speaker 11: is dying, it's disappearing, It's been taken over by the
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Speaker 11: radical left.
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Speaker 10: Is run by the radical left.
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Speaker 11: It's encapsulated best in their power policy as one their position,
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Speaker 11: their sort of ambivalence and confused position on Israel number
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Speaker 11: two are just the social paradigm of gender neutrality and
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Speaker 11: gender fluidity and all this sort of stuff that's become
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Speaker 11: part of the lexicon. That's who's running austraight up at
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Speaker 11: the moment. I would commend Bill, although he does it
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Speaker 11: in a bill way of at least attempting to try
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Speaker 11: and put the NDIS back inside its envelope.
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Speaker 10: It was completely out of control.
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Speaker 11: And I do commend him working with Michael Suka to
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Speaker 11: try and bring some sense because we're just going to
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Speaker 11: run out of money there.
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Speaker 10: I'd say, if.
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Speaker 11: We go back through Bill's history, he was formed by
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Speaker 11: the fact that as a Union Rep. And he was
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Speaker 11: a Union Rep, but he was actually a union rep
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Speaker 11: out in the field. He was out in the field,
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Speaker 11: in the farming areas, out in the field and factories.
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Speaker 11: He wasn't flying a desk straight out of university in
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Speaker 11: the vain hope that as part of the Labor left
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Speaker 11: they would end up in politics, which is how most
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Speaker 11: of them get there. And I think it's a concern
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Speaker 11: not just for the Labor Party but for Australia to
20:54
Speaker 11: see that the moderates, the people with their head screwed
20:57
Speaker 11: on are disappearing, Bob Hawks are disappearing.
21:01
Speaker 10: From the Labor Party to be replaced who was on
21:05
Speaker 10: the left.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, Gary Gray, Jenny George. I mean, the
21:13
Speaker 2: sensible Labor doesn't seem to exist apart from a few
21:17
Speaker 2: random examples that are better not name otherwise I get
21:20
Speaker 2: frozen out too. Baby, you've been involved in politics for
21:24
Speaker 2: thirty years, you've been a politician for twenty When did
21:27
Speaker 2: you last see a reserve Bank governor having to fire
21:29
Speaker 2: back at a treasurer of trying to shift to blame
21:31
Speaker 2: onto them.
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Speaker 10: This week.
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Speaker 11: It is, you know, from the times of Bernie Fraser
21:39
Speaker 11: and Glen Glenn Stevens. Was probably commentary by the Fourth
21:44
Speaker 11: State on how Glenn was going.
21:45
Speaker 10: But this hostility between Michelle Bullock.
21:48
Speaker 11: Who part of my alumni actually, so you know, of
21:51
Speaker 11: the University of Newland, same place. Bernie Fraser came from
21:54
Speaker 11: another Reserve Bank governor. She's an expert in economics. The
21:59
Speaker 11: Charmers is expert in political science. And what we're seeing
22:03
Speaker 11: now is that political science doesn't match it in economics.
22:06
Speaker 11: Then doctor Charmers, of the political scientists, doctor Charms has
22:11
Speaker 11: to realize that you can't. The core inflation rate in
22:14
Speaker 11: Australia is a concern. It's higher than New Zealand. For
22:17
Speaker 11: goodness sake, I forget about Switzerland and everywhere else. It's
22:20
Speaker 11: higher than New Zealand. We have a real problem here
22:22
Speaker 11: in Australia. And if you know, if a block of
22:26
Speaker 11: butter costs you four bucks and tomorrow it costs you eight,
22:29
Speaker 11: then you'll become poorer. Right, if inflation puts things beyond
22:33
Speaker 11: your capacity to own them to buy them. It means
22:36
Speaker 11: that you get less and less in your shopping bag
22:40
Speaker 11: for the same amount of money, or you have to
22:42
Speaker 11: pay twice as much money to get what you shopped
22:44
Speaker 11: for six months, you know, a year ago.
22:47
Speaker 10: So you're poorer. And Michelle's said.
22:50
Speaker 11: That, you know, the Reserve Bank government said, if you
22:52
Speaker 11: don't control inflation, the Australian people become poorer. And you
22:56
Speaker 11: are becoming poorer and another massive driver of your poverty
23:00
Speaker 11: as you're driven towards many people towards poverty like they
23:03
Speaker 11: literally they don't they're living in their car.
23:06
Speaker 10: That's that's poverty.
23:07
Speaker 11: Is this insanity of the left, going back to the
23:10
Speaker 11: Bill issue, the mad left and their desire for intermittent power,
23:14
Speaker 11: that is I reckon that it just encapsulates lunacy.
23:17
Speaker 10: Just have a look at their power policy.
23:19
Speaker 11: Having the fairies at the bottom of the garden and
23:21
Speaker 11: the peter Pan economics, and that is what is making
23:25
Speaker 11: you poorer thought processes and things.
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Speaker 3: That's not like, that's not the only thing.
23:31
Speaker 2: I think she was absolutely right in saying inflation hurts
23:34
Speaker 2: more people and the poor in particular. And you know
23:38
Speaker 2: that a labor treasure doesn't know that is a disgrace.
23:42
Speaker 2: But there's also something else making us poorer, this global
23:45
Speaker 2: warming agenda. You know, in his last budget, Jim Charmers
23:49
Speaker 2: boasted of spending a billion dollars to get Australian companies
23:52
Speaker 2: to build more solar panels in Australia, even though there's
23:55
Speaker 2: worldwide glut thanks to China's cut price ones.
23:58
Speaker 12: Here is we're also boosting economic resilience and strengthening our
24:03
Speaker 12: supply chains, giving Australian firms the chance to manufacture more
24:07
Speaker 12: of the next generation of solar panels.
24:11
Speaker 2: In fact, bane to me now we learn that these
24:14
Speaker 2: these subsidies could actually go to foreign companies with no
24:18
Speaker 2: real obligation to do much in Australia.
24:22
Speaker 3: It's desperately trying to just someone to build them. Just
24:26
Speaker 3: frustrate panels.
24:29
Speaker 10: It frustrates me so much, this insanity. You're going to
24:31
Speaker 10: make things in Australia. What your source, your seedstock, electricity
24:36
Speaker 10: and gas?
24:37
Speaker 11: The price is going through the roof, your raw materials,
24:40
Speaker 11: your coal, irone all except you hate coal.
24:43
Speaker 10: Is it international prices? It's an international benchmark. Your labor
24:46
Speaker 10: rates are higher and I've got no problems with that.
24:48
Speaker 10: We want them to be higher than Bangladesh.
24:51
Speaker 13: Our advantage was power, electricity gas.
24:55
Speaker 11: But this government is basically butchering it. It is saying,
24:59
Speaker 11: it's alligating it to this insanity that we're.
25:01
Speaker 10: Going to run the Maiden Australia on a windmill.
25:04
Speaker 11: I mean, if you just said that, if you've got
25:06
Speaker 11: the helicopter and looked at this from I know, three
25:09
Speaker 11: hundred feet and said where they're going to try and
25:11
Speaker 11: run an economy on windmill and soul panel, that's insane.
25:16
Speaker 10: He's like, yeah, it's insane. It is insane, and and
25:20
Speaker 10: and that ond for it.
25:24
Speaker 13: Well, and you go and he listened to the swami dancing,
25:28
Speaker 13: prancing mister Bower and his beautifully colored ties, his rather
25:32
Speaker 13: tight shirt, and and he's you know, he actually thinks
25:36
Speaker 13: he's fixed.
25:37
Speaker 10: It's it's it's like an alternate universe.
25:40
Speaker 3: It really is. That's exactly.
25:42
Speaker 10: They've all got their great exactly how I feel.
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Speaker 2: No, Bannaby, you've got it. It's an alternative universe. I mean,
25:49
Speaker 2: I barely understand what's going on. And I think increasingly
25:52
Speaker 2: voters are waking up to this. This is just the mystical,
25:57
Speaker 2: magical tour that they voted to take to a land
26:00
Speaker 2: that doesn't really exist, operating laws that actually don't work.
26:04
Speaker 2: Bunnaby Joyce, thank you so much, indeed for your time.
26:08
Speaker 2: Speaking of speaking of after the break, I'll talk about
26:12
Speaker 2: the global extremes have betrayed their country. Not just politicians,
26:17
Speaker 2: mind you, but bankers leaving us. Now. This is incredible,
26:21
Speaker 2: having to import gas when there's an ocean of it
26:25
Speaker 2: under our feet. Plus here comes ten you fi y
26:28
Speaker 2: sick again? Is any mine in the country safe? I
26:35
Speaker 2: heard a story on the ABC radio today which really
26:39
Speaker 2: sums up the madness of our times. Is a report
26:42
Speaker 2: on the building of a new gas terminal port Kembler
26:45
Speaker 2: to taking gas imported from overseas from overseas to a
26:50
Speaker 2: country that's actually sitting on oceans of gas, but now
26:54
Speaker 2: things it's too dirty to drill for it, meaning we're
26:58
Speaker 2: running out. What an indictment of our global warming stupidity.
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Speaker 2: Here's the head of the company building this terminal.
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Speaker 14: I would say scurcify as to say the outlook is dire.
27:09
Speaker 14: We're facing into critical structural short form and by twenty
27:12
Speaker 14: twenty eight the decline will be as much as forty
27:15
Speaker 14: percent from current supply in southern markets.
27:19
Speaker 2: Now We do export lots of our own gas, that's true,
27:22
Speaker 2: but that's because of contracts we now can't break. But
27:27
Speaker 2: we haven't developed enough gas fields for our selves because
27:31
Speaker 2: of global warming. For instance, in Victoria, the government banned
27:35
Speaker 2: all gas exploration on land for nine years. Part of
27:39
Speaker 2: it ore fear of fracking, which is still banned. By
27:41
Speaker 2: the way, one of our banks or has refused to
27:45
Speaker 2: invest the dollar directly to any new gas field, or
27:49
Speaker 2: none of them actually none last year would invest the dollar,
27:53
Speaker 2: and NAID this year said it's transitioning our goal our
27:57
Speaker 2: oil and gas lending to align with the goals of
27:59
Speaker 2: the Power Agreement slash emissions.
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Speaker 3: That's the biggest bank.
28:03
Speaker 2: Well, you take the huge narraborw gas proje in New
28:05
Speaker 2: South Wales, that's actually gas meant for Australia. The developers
28:09
Speaker 2: have been trying to get that that mine a proof
28:11
Speaker 2: for sixteen years and counting, and it's been fought by
28:16
Speaker 2: environmentalists identifying as Aboriginal who.
28:19
Speaker 3: Say, but what about global warming? And they actually won.
28:23
Speaker 3: The left wing Federal court said oh yes, what indeed
28:26
Speaker 3: about climate change? Got to stop.
28:29
Speaker 2: And this kind of madness is why we're now going
28:31
Speaker 2: to be using gas shipped from overseas in gassy ships
28:36
Speaker 2: to use right here, global warming, you know, joining us
28:39
Speaker 2: the opposition's environment spokesman, Senator Jonathan Dunham Senator. Look, I'll
28:44
Speaker 2: talk to you later about another thing that I really
28:47
Speaker 2: want to talk to you, but this what do you
28:50
Speaker 2: plan to do if you win government to make sure
28:53
Speaker 2: this war against gas development is stopped?
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Speaker 3: Well, Andrew, it's good to be with you.
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Speaker 15: And can I say it is madness? You use the
29:01
Speaker 15: word that I often use to describe the situation we're in,
29:05
Speaker 15: the fact that we are frankly cutting our nose off
29:07
Speaker 15: to spite our face. We should have laws that facilitate investment,
29:12
Speaker 15: that facilitate activities like gas exploration, that we need to
29:16
Speaker 15: grow our economy to keep the lights on to keep
29:18
Speaker 15: warm in winter, rather than blocking it the way we are.
29:23
Speaker 15: And Peter Dun't made a commitment that our laws, if
29:25
Speaker 15: we're elected at the next election around environmental approvals will
29:29
Speaker 15: never ever again see things like sixteen years to get
29:32
Speaker 15: a gas project or a mind approved. We would stop
29:36
Speaker 15: groups of people masquerading as Indigenous Australians as using their
29:42
Speaker 15: identity as a means to stop projects like the ones
29:45
Speaker 15: who've heard about this week. When you've got legislation that
29:48
Speaker 15: enables groups to do that, we are not doing the
29:52
Speaker 15: right thing by the people of Australia who need these resources.
29:55
Speaker 3: Who need these projects.
29:56
Speaker 15: So we would do everything we can to ensure that
29:58
Speaker 15: we have the gas we need and the jobs that
30:00
Speaker 15: go with these projects by fixing the laws as a
30:03
Speaker 15: matter of priority.
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Speaker 2: I've never seen such willful self denial of this vandalism.
30:12
Speaker 2: We also had the Prime Minister this year say he
30:15
Speaker 2: was banning any money of the huge uranium depositor Jabaluka,
30:18
Speaker 2: and it said it'd make that site that mind Sight
30:21
Speaker 2: part of the Kakadu National Park. That's another energy source
30:24
Speaker 2: we that we may need being locked up. Would you
30:27
Speaker 2: reverse that decision?
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Speaker 15: Well, I think we'd have to look at the process
30:31
Speaker 15: this government's gone through to make that declaration. I'd also
30:34
Speaker 15: note that, of course we have a new Parts and
30:37
Speaker 15: new Mining Minister, thankfully in the Northern Territory after last
30:40
Speaker 15: weekend's elections. That's a very good outcome. But I am
30:44
Speaker 15: very skeptical about the process that the Aveneze Labor government
30:47
Speaker 15: went through to declare this park. We do need that
30:50
Speaker 15: resource and we need to make sure we have everything
30:53
Speaker 15: available to us in our interests to bring down power classes,
30:57
Speaker 15: to ensure that we can attract in investment.
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Speaker 16: That we need.
31:01
Speaker 15: So that's certainly something we'll look very closely at that.
31:04
Speaker 15: I think given the lack of transparency on this decision,
31:07
Speaker 15: along with so many others by this government, there is
31:10
Speaker 15: something very fishy we need to get to the bottom
31:12
Speaker 15: of here.
31:14
Speaker 2: It's just unbelievable coal, gas, uranium under our feet and
31:19
Speaker 2: increasingly we're stopping ourselves from using it. There's also the
31:23
Speaker 2: decision of Environment Minister Tenure Plivtek to effectively ban a
31:26
Speaker 2: one billion dollar gold mine because of secret Aboriginal business
31:31
Speaker 2: PLEBSC is now even.
31:32
Speaker 3: Considering a new report telling it to use heritage laws to.
31:35
Speaker 2: Stop plans to mine and drill South Australia's Lake torrents
31:40
Speaker 2: for copper, uranium and gold. What's the story with the
31:43
Speaker 2: Lake Torrans? Should we allow mining there?
31:46
Speaker 1: Well?
31:47
Speaker 15: I honestly am becoming very skeptical about a lot of
31:50
Speaker 15: the claims that are being made. I don't know the
31:53
Speaker 15: full details behind the claim over Lake Orpheus, but there
31:57
Speaker 15: has to be a way that culture heritage can coexist
32:01
Speaker 15: with economic development in the same way that good environmental
32:05
Speaker 15: comes are not mutually exclusive from economic activity. So canu
32:10
Speaker 15: plevsk is taking this giant sledgehammer to these projects that
32:14
Speaker 15: need to go ahead under the guards of protecting Aboriginal
32:17
Speaker 15: cultural heritage. But we are destroying economic opportunities and making
32:22
Speaker 15: it harder to do business. So I am going to
32:25
Speaker 15: wait and see what she does, or a fresh release
32:27
Speaker 15: from the Greens calling on her to do everything she
32:29
Speaker 15: can to block this exploration activity, and that should tell
32:34
Speaker 15: you everything. And this is what we have to guard against.
32:37
Speaker 15: A green tail wagging a labor dog. This is how
32:40
Speaker 15: all of these policies and decisions are coming about. And
32:43
Speaker 15: I hope the Minister does the right thing, gets the
32:45
Speaker 15: balance right and allows the Mandar Proceeed it doesn't need
32:48
Speaker 15: to stop.
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Speaker 2: Senator Jonathan Dunham, thank you so much for your time.
32:54
Speaker 2: After the break, I'll show you the latest victims of
32:57
Speaker 2: this crazy war on gas. The man is continues and
33:01
Speaker 2: the poor will pay most. I have another example of
33:08
Speaker 2: how the war on gas by climate mad politicians is
33:12
Speaker 2: hurting people, especially poorer ones like renters. The Gas Appliance
33:17
Speaker 2: Manufacturers Association of Australia did research into how the Victorian
33:20
Speaker 2: government's knew law that forces landlords to convert from gas
33:25
Speaker 2: to electricity when their water and heating appliances are at
33:29
Speaker 2: the end of their life. It found that a quarter
33:34
Speaker 2: of a million, more than a quarter of a million
33:36
Speaker 2: renters are going to have to pay up to sixty
33:39
Speaker 2: five dollars a week.
33:40
Speaker 16: More.
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Speaker 2: Joining is the association's president, Ross Jameson Ross, thank you
33:45
Speaker 2: for your time. My first question is why the Victorian
33:49
Speaker 2: government is forcing landlords to switch from gas to electricity
33:53
Speaker 2: when we're running out of electricity and prices are soaring.
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Speaker 16: Well, Andrew, thank you very much for the opportunities who
34:00
Speaker 16: speak to your listeners today from the outset. GAMMA supports
34:03
Speaker 16: the decarbonization of the economy, but it must be done
34:06
Speaker 16: in a way that enables consumer choice, low as emissions,
34:09
Speaker 16: and most importantly has done a cost effective way. The
34:12
Speaker 16: government is saying that their proposal is necessary to lower
34:14
Speaker 16: energy bills for tenants, but they've got their numbers completely
34:17
Speaker 16: wrong and it will leave tenants and gas equipped times
34:20
Speaker 16: even poorer, colder, or even worse, looking for somewhere else
34:23
Speaker 16: to live as their properties are taken off the market.
34:26
Speaker 16: But you make a good point. It makes no sense
34:28
Speaker 16: to switch from reliable and efficient gas that consumers prefer
34:31
Speaker 16: to a less reliable and fragile electricity network.
34:35
Speaker 1: But it's still.
34:35
Speaker 16: Largely based on brown coal and for some time to come.
34:39
Speaker 16: Given how badly the government's renewable energy roll at patterns going,
34:44
Speaker 16: it should not be an ideological debate about energy.
34:48
Speaker 3: It should be should be.
34:49
Speaker 16: Put in the well beating of tenants. First, Can I
34:52
Speaker 16: note that the government's regulatory impact statement for this process
34:55
Speaker 16: uses bad data, the wrong methodology and options, all of
34:59
Speaker 16: which can coincidentally skew outcomes to favor government's preparance preference
35:03
Speaker 16: for electrification we collected our information from.
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Speaker 2: It's just the whole thing to me is nuts. Right,
35:11
Speaker 2: you're running out, the state's running out of electricity, it's
35:16
Speaker 2: going through the roof to prices, and you're being forced
35:19
Speaker 2: to switch these appliances around when they come. That's those
35:23
Speaker 2: costs obviously have to be passed on to renters, right.
35:26
Speaker 16: Absolutely, Renters are going to be the ones that actually
35:29
Speaker 16: pay for this madness in the government policy.
35:34
Speaker 2: But can you explain to me why the government says, look,
35:37
Speaker 2: you know, all right, we want to have more efficient
35:40
Speaker 2: appliances et cetera. Why don't they just say, oh, look,
35:44
Speaker 2: you can switch to a high efficiency gas units.
35:46
Speaker 3: Why not? Why not? I mean that seems pretty simple
35:48
Speaker 3: to me.
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Speaker 16: Well, that's that's the obvious question. But unfortunately for the
35:52
Speaker 16: Victorian government, they chose to go down the pathway of
35:58
Speaker 16: not going down the common sense approach. They want to
36:00
Speaker 16: take the approach that makes tenants and landlords worse off.
36:05
Speaker 16: And I want to be clear that GAMMA supports and
36:07
Speaker 16: proven tenant welfare by raising minimum standards for those properties
36:12
Speaker 16: where it's required, not lwering good quality properties to make
36:14
Speaker 16: minimum standards. We believe that including an option to replace
36:18
Speaker 16: born at home systems with high efficiency gas units, we
36:22
Speaker 16: believe a tenants better off by around one hundred and
36:24
Speaker 16: eighty dollars per year whilst also reducing emissions by twenty
36:27
Speaker 16: five percent and most importantly, it's wone increase the rent.
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Speaker 2: This is exactly the blindness that I'm talking about. You
36:38
Speaker 2: know gas, Well, we can't have gas. We have electricity.
36:41
Speaker 2: By the way, guys, electricity in Victoria two thirds of
36:44
Speaker 2: it is from fossil fuels, and that I don't.
36:46
Speaker 3: Think it's going to be changing much in the near future.
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Speaker 2: Ross Jannerson. Look, thank you so much. Keep farting because well,
36:53
Speaker 2: obviously you're doing it for your members. But I'll tell
36:56
Speaker 2: you what, the tenants will be grateful too if you
36:58
Speaker 2: win this one. Anyway, you're against the ideological he crazed
37:03
Speaker 2: bim off. Thank you for your time. After the break,
37:07
Speaker 2: the man who inspired me is quitting. I'll tell you
37:10
Speaker 2: what I owe him, and I won't let him leave
37:13
Speaker 2: the studio until he goes out with a bang. Terry
37:21
Speaker 2: mccran last week retired after forty six years of writing
37:26
Speaker 2: columns and finance and politics. Now you've seen Terry on
37:29
Speaker 2: the show a lot, and every time I introduce him,
37:33
Speaker 2: I say he's the country's top finance writer. And that's
37:35
Speaker 2: actually true, except his more than that, for thirty years
37:39
Speaker 2: or whatever, has been for me, a friend and a
37:41
Speaker 2: mentor and an inspiration. Terry always said what he thought.
37:45
Speaker 2: And you might say, well, you know, others do that too,
37:49
Speaker 2: fewer than you might think. But Terry would also say
37:52
Speaker 2: the hard truth, even if it hurt his own side,
37:55
Speaker 2: so to speak, you know, and that you'll find is
37:58
Speaker 2: much rarer and his say it even if powerful advertisers
38:03
Speaker 2: threatened to pull their ads if he wasn't made to
38:05
Speaker 2: shut up. I think I first noticed that when there
38:08
Speaker 2: was Myers was trying to do way way back when,
38:11
Speaker 2: and that's where I got it from too. Of course,
38:14
Speaker 2: stuff the advertisers if they're trying to stifle us now.
38:17
Speaker 2: In the end, I think Terry would agree with this.
38:21
Speaker 2: Journalists owe their highest loyalty not to even their friends
38:26
Speaker 2: or their bosses, or their colleagues or the people who
38:30
Speaker 2: hand out those glittering media prizes.
38:33
Speaker 3: They owe it to their readers, their viewers.
38:37
Speaker 2: And the number of journals who understand that and live
38:40
Speaker 2: it they're very few. So I actually think it was
38:45
Speaker 2: wrong that Terry left after forty six years of columnrading,
38:50
Speaker 2: left quietly, no fuss. So here he is, Terry mccran.
38:56
Speaker 2: Forty six years. You've been in the business, watching people
38:59
Speaker 2: do business. Can I just start by a favorite topic
39:04
Speaker 2: of ours? What is the state of journalism today?
39:10
Speaker 5: Do you have half an hour or so? Andrew isuse me.
39:15
Speaker 5: It's clearly abysmal.
39:16
Speaker 7: And I think there are two threads that we have
39:18
Speaker 7: to separate if you like, but then they also come together.
39:22
Speaker 7: One is the way that the revenue base of the
39:25
Speaker 7: industry has been shredded by as we all know, the
39:29
Speaker 7: growth of that pernicious thing called the smartphone streaming in
39:33
Speaker 7: all those things that have shredded the base of journalism,
39:36
Speaker 7: both in terms of the reader being prepared to fork
39:40
Speaker 7: out all the viewer fork out dollars for the product,
39:43
Speaker 7: and also the advertiser. But the second thing which has
39:47
Speaker 7: been self inflicted is the debasement of journalism. Exactly what
39:52
Speaker 7: you said, Andrew, is so pervasive across journalism, the portrayal
39:57
Speaker 7: of the reader viewer by trying to pose on the
40:01
Speaker 7: reader viewer the journalists perspective, the journalists biases the journalist's interests,
40:07
Speaker 7: and we've seen that so strongly in the twenty first century.
40:10
Speaker 7: It's always been there obviously in the twentieth century as well.
40:13
Speaker 7: But those two things have combined to make journalism media,
40:18
Speaker 7: mainstream media, unreliable, untrustworthy, and simply not doing journalism, which
40:25
Speaker 7: is delivering to the reader the viewer information, commentary on
40:31
Speaker 7: that information, yes, which is opinion, but it's based on
40:36
Speaker 7: the facts that are being presented, and that's disappeared largely
40:41
Speaker 7: across the English speaking world, with one very notable exception,
40:46
Speaker 7: and at the risk of stirring Paul Barry to like
40:50
Speaker 7: next Monday. That is obviously the Murdoch media interests in
40:55
Speaker 7: the UK, the US and in Australia where you actually
40:58
Speaker 7: get fears reporting, fearless courage and which is as you say,
41:06
Speaker 7: it doesn't deliver just to the their side, so to speak.
41:10
Speaker 5: It's about holding the powerful to account.
41:15
Speaker 2: Well, actually Paul Barry doesn't get something. The reason Sky
41:20
Speaker 2: News and the murder media general, but particularly sky News
41:24
Speaker 2: really seems to be a focus of his anger week
41:27
Speaker 2: after week after week.
41:29
Speaker 3: It's not because we're do anything wrong. It's because of
41:31
Speaker 3: the one.
41:32
Speaker 2: Of the rare outlets, the challenges the group think that
41:36
Speaker 2: Paul Barry should reflect and why it is that, you
41:40
Speaker 2: know when he says, all these other people don't agree,
41:43
Speaker 2: you know, it's just these terrible sky News. It's actually
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Speaker 2: look in the mirror mate group think baha baha. You
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Speaker 2: know that's that's the real issue here. But you mentioned
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Speaker 2: the debasement and the agenda pushing, et cetera, et cetera.
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Speaker 2: Nothing nothing represents that more than the ABC, Paul Barry's
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Speaker 2: outfit and tonight or just might yeah, might have been
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Speaker 2: tonight doing last night the ABC seven point thirty Sarah Ferguson,
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Speaker 2: I want to show you this. She's interviewing Donald Trump's
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Speaker 2: bitter ex spokesman Anthony Scaramucci, who's right off the planet,
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Speaker 2: is so useless that it's Trump sacked him up to
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Speaker 2: just ten days now. He's dishing out Terry the big scoops.
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Speaker 3: Hold your her hat.
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Speaker 5: He does Trump really wear a girdle on certain days?
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Speaker 16: Yes?
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Speaker 5: M what's that about?
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Speaker 15: He's a you know, he's an image oriented guy.
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Speaker 1: He's a television entertainer.
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Speaker 12: He doesn't hates taking pictures of him from the side
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Speaker 12: because he just looks too fat from the side.
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Speaker 1: He looks take pictures.
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Speaker 3: Hat on, Terry. What do you make of that?
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Speaker 2: The national broadcasts are interviewing an absolute lout and a
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Speaker 2: bragget a guy with an axe the grind about whether
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Speaker 2: Donald Trump does or does not wear a girdle.
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Speaker 7: I know, it's extraordinary and it's sort of I mean,
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Speaker 7: Sarah Ferguson should look in the mirror when she and
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Speaker 7: just see what does she regard that as journalism? Does
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Speaker 7: she regard I mean, apart from all the terrible things
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Speaker 7: that Sarah Ferguson has done, that three part series The
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Speaker 7: Greatest Story of the twenty first century, which is all
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Speaker 7: based on lies or based on falsehoods, which the ABC
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Speaker 7: has never attracted, never apologized, and as I ah I said,
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Speaker 7: it's still available on the ABC website. And these people
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Speaker 7: live in a complete echo chamber bubble. They have no
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Speaker 7: idea of the total ruddish that they pump out, which
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Speaker 7: is unrelated to anything anything remotely like reality.
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Speaker 5: Before you get to the bias.
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Speaker 3: Well, look, let's go back to your career you've covered.
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Speaker 2: Let's not pretend you know it was all good then
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Speaker 2: it's all terrible now because in your career you've written
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Speaker 2: mimorable stuffs about some really wide boys like you know,
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Speaker 2: Christopher Scase, Alan Bonn.
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Speaker 3: You know, we've had we've had our weird people before,
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Speaker 3: but have you Here's one thing that it might be different.
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Speaker 2: Have you ever known a time like now where politicians
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Speaker 2: and journalists actually hate the very things we most need
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Speaker 2: to survive as an economy, cole uranium gas, the freedom
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Speaker 2: to explore and exploit resources, lower taxes, the freedom to
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Speaker 2: do business.
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Speaker 7: Well, when I look back over the fifty years, andrew,
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Speaker 7: the people that might strike me about who are great
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Speaker 7: business contributors to Australia were those that were building our
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Speaker 7: resources industries, those people that developed the minds on which
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Speaker 7: our prosperity is based. We saw one of these people
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Speaker 7: die a couple of weeks ago, so Roderic Carnegie.
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Speaker 5: He was in his nineties.
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Speaker 7: These are the people that created the foundation for our prosperity.
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Speaker 7: And it's not only prosperity in that broad sense. It
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Speaker 7: funds the budget revenues to a very significant extent. Take
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Speaker 7: that money away and we would not be on the
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Speaker 7: path to Argentina. We would actually be Argentina on the
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Speaker 7: side of the Pacific, a banana republic without those massive revenues.
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Speaker 7: And as you say, we had a government and a
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Speaker 7: political elite that basically wants to destroy those industries, basically
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Speaker 7: wants to destroy the economic foundation of the country to
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Speaker 7: replace it with what I mean, it's extraordinary.
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Speaker 5: At best.
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Speaker 7: You can say, they want to replace it with fantasy
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Speaker 7: schemes like green hydrogen and blue hydrogen, and next.
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Speaker 5: Stop it will be red hydrogen and purple hydrogen.
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Speaker 7: But it's just absolutely outstounding that, as you say, Andrew,
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Speaker 7: and unfortunately it's not only the political elite and the
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Speaker 7: eicultural elite, it's also in the business community itself, because
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Speaker 7: if the government is handing out big taxpayer dollars for
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Speaker 7: projects which make no sense, there will be plenty of
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Speaker 7: business people that are prepared to take that money.
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Speaker 2: Well that's the thing too. I mean you mentioned the giants,
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Speaker 2: you know, r V. Pabo as well, and Hugh Morgan.
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Speaker 1: And even Robert Holmes I thought, for all his later.
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Speaker 3: Dealings, and unfortunately his son has left us with.
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Speaker 1: You know, all those things.
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Speaker 2: Gina Rainhart now is about the only one that is
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Speaker 2: prepared to go out there and make the case for
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Speaker 2: free enterprise and economic development.
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Speaker 5: Absolutely.
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Speaker 2: Of all the time, you know, half a century, nearly
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Speaker 2: half a century, you've observed all this, You've observed governments
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Speaker 2: come and go. How does this Albany easy government compare
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Speaker 2: in terms of making the country financially stronger.
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Speaker 7: Well, I think I've had that already, Andrew, I mean
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Speaker 7: the Albanizy government and the Prime Minister in particular is
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Speaker 7: you know, I mean, please take us back to Golf Whitlam,
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Speaker 7: take us back to even take us back to Rudd
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Speaker 7: and Gillard in comparison. I mean, it's this government is
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Speaker 7: extraordinary that it's developed on such a broad Front policies
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Speaker 7: which are anti Australian.
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Speaker 5: Essentially, they are anti Australian. Let me call it out.
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Speaker 7: These are policies designed to hurt Australians and to hurt
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Speaker 7: Australia in industrial relations. Taking us back to the nineteen seventies,
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Speaker 7: destroying our energy system. Everybody that's watching this program understands
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Speaker 7: that we have a government which is hell bent on
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Speaker 7: destroying the foundation of our economy and our civilization, which
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Speaker 7: is cheap, reliable and plentiful energy.
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Speaker 5: And you've got Chris.
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Speaker 7: Bowen, who has to be the most absurd minister we've
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Speaker 7: seen in one hundred and twenty five years of Federation.
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Speaker 7: I mean, we've had bad ministers, but Chris Bowen is
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Speaker 7: in a category all of his own. And yet he's
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Speaker 7: given carte bloch, so to speak, by a Prime minister.
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Speaker 7: I'm beginning to think a prime minister that I prefer
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Speaker 7: to spend to go back to twenty twenty two and
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Speaker 7: spend most of his time overseas. At least he's not
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Speaker 7: here to annoy us when he's when he's in Canberra
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Speaker 7: or in Sydney.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I put him in a little display cabinet. Al
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Speaker 2: Grasby Jim cans At Chris Bowen. I think that's probably
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Speaker 2: the Troika. Look terrific to talk to you, Terry, good
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Speaker 2: on you, thank you so much, and what a wonderful career.
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Speaker 2: Well that's it for me. Coming up next is Sharry
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Speaker 2: but this time hosted about James Mitferson. No wonder I've
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Speaker 2: had it wrong so often.
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Speaker 3: What a cast. The characters are there, but James Mitferson,
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Speaker 3: you're in safe hands. Good note