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Let them eat “Fake” · David Pollack Primetime

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Speaker 1: BREAKING TONIGHT, CONTROVERSY AS DAN SCOVINO, THE PRESIDENT'S PERSONNEL CHIEF,
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Speaker 1: PUT OUT AN AI-GENERATED CLIP OF HIMSELF, ERIC TRUMP, AND
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Speaker 1: A FEW OTHERS RIDING A LUGGAGE CART, SPRAYING CHAMPAGNE AND
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Speaker 1: HAVING A LAUGH. THE HORROR How dare a White House
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Speaker 1: aide post a goofy AI video of himself having a
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Speaker 1: good time. Impeachment should be on the table immediately, right? Now,
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Speaker 1: of course, I'm being sarcastic. The Internet, it's not. That's right.
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Speaker 1: There's a video that has now become what they call
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Speaker 1: tone deaf. They call it a let them eat cake moment.
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Speaker 1: Highly insensitive, considering the abysmal state of the entire economy. Seriously,
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Speaker 1: let them eat cake. The alleged Marie Antoinette phrase that
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Speaker 1: she didn't even say. You know, the out-of-touch aristocrats laughing
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Speaker 1: on the cart while the peasants starve. And, of course, Republicans, like, well,
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Speaker 1: let's call them Republicans, air quotes, like Meghan McCain. She
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Speaker 1: picked it up, linked the video, and wrote,' One of
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Speaker 1: my friends couldn't afford an air conditioner this summer.' Now,
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Speaker 1: set aside the obvious that if you've got a friend
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Speaker 1: who genuinely can't afford an air conditioner and you're reportedly
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Speaker 1: worth somewhere around 10 million bucks, well, then maybe you
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Speaker 1: just buy her one.
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Speaker 2: But I don't know.
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Speaker 1: Whatever. Set that aside for a second, because what concerns
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Speaker 1: me more than the left picking this up and running
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Speaker 1: with it, because, of course, that's what we expect them
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Speaker 1: to do. Manufacture outrage. Prop up a manufacturer narrative. It's
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Speaker 1: the Republican accounts posting this that concern me. The former
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Speaker 1: Trump supporters posting it. Folks who should be on our side,
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Speaker 1: seemingly eager to help the left's narrative along that the
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Speaker 1: economy is broken, that this president doesn't care. And that thesis,
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Speaker 1: it gets stapled to one number they can actually point to,
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Speaker 1: the price of fuel, gas prices. We've seen this move before,
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Speaker 1: a photo, a caption, a wave of outrage. Every piece
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Speaker 1: of it aimed at a single conclusion that America is suffering,
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Speaker 1: and Donald Trump, well, he's Marie Antoinette, and he just
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Speaker 1: doesn't care. So let's put the actual record on the table.
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Speaker 1: The president himself addressed it outside the White House this morning,
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Speaker 1: starting with jobs. Take a look.
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Speaker 3: We have the best employment numbers just came out in
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Speaker 3: the history of our country. More people working today than
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Speaker 3: at any time ever before. We have the best, I
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Speaker 3: guess you could say, poverty.
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Speaker 1: They talk poverty.
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Speaker 3: We have the best poverty numbers ever in the history
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Speaker 3: of our country. In other words, there's less poverty now
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Speaker 3: than at any time in the history of our country.
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Speaker 3: And we have the best income numbers per individual.
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Speaker 1: And that's the facts. In August, the American economy added 162,000 jobs.
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Speaker 1: Forecasters called for 56,000. It nearly tripled. Unemployment, 4.1%. Wages
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Speaker 1: up 3.1% on the year. The job numbers for the
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Speaker 1: two months prior got revised up, not down. The stock
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Speaker 1: market has been printing record highs. The 401k of every
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Speaker 1: teacher and electrician and small business owner in this country
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Speaker 1: at an all-time high. American oil production is at a record.
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Speaker 1: And the government's own forecast just raised next year's number
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Speaker 1: to a record on top of that. And the economy,
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Speaker 1: it's growing. It's not booming, but it's growing. And underneath
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Speaker 1: the monthly numbers, the direction is to tell. Factories added
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Speaker 1: jobs last month, 16,000 of them. Companies are pulling supply
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Speaker 1: chains back into the United States. Energy independence stopped being
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Speaker 1: a slogan and became a production chart. That is not
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Speaker 1: the shape of a nation eating cake. Because that's not
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Speaker 1: what's happening here. And Trump isn't oblivious to anything. He's
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Speaker 1: actually improving the economy around the clock. That's what he's
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Speaker 1: doing now. Is there pain out there? Yes, the president
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Speaker 1: acknowledges that pain as well. Prices, inflation ticked up this
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Speaker 1: summer to 3.4%. And the reason, we all know why.
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Speaker 1: It's fuel, gas is up, diesel is up. We covered
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Speaker 1: why diesel is up last week. It hit a new record.
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Speaker 1: And when it costs more to move every product in America,
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Speaker 1: it costs more to buy every product in America. That
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Speaker 1: part is true, which is why interest rates had to
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Speaker 1: go up. And I know people are upset about the
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Speaker 1: war in Iran because they say, well, this is unnecessary pain.
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Speaker 1: We didn't have to go to that war. I get it.
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Speaker 1: But here's the thing. Even though there is some pain
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Speaker 1: hitting the kitchen table, nothing changes. CHANGES WHAT'S GOING ON
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Speaker 1: OUTSIDE OF THAT. THINGS WILL GET BETTER. THAT IS ONE
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Speaker 1: WEAK SPOT IN THE ENTIRE ECONOMY. AND THE PRESIDENT, BY
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Speaker 1: THE WAY, IS THROWING EVERYTHING AT THAT PROBLEM.
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Speaker 2: LOOK.
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Speaker 3: OIL WILL COME DROPPING DOWN AS SOON AS IRAN GIVES UP,
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Speaker 3: AS SOON AS THE WAR IS OVER, WHICH WILL BE SOON,
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Speaker 3: OIL IS GOING TO COME PLUMMETING DOWN AND ALL PRICES
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Speaker 3: ARE COMING DOWN. Almost every price has come way down.
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Speaker 3: And remember one thing, oil is less expensive now than
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Speaker 3: it was under the Biden administration.
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Speaker 1: AGAIN, ALL OF THAT'S TRUE. AND AT HIS DIRECTION, THE
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Speaker 1: EPA HAS TORN UP THE SUMMER FUEL RULES EARLY AND
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Speaker 1: PUSHED HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF BARRELS A DAY OF EXTRA
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Speaker 1: GASOLINE INTO THE SUPPLY TO PULL DOWN THE PRICE AT
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Speaker 1: THE PUMP. AMERICAN OIL, IT'S AT RECORD OUTPUT AND CLIMBING. AGAIN,
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Speaker 1: NEXT YEAR HE'S MOVING TO KEEP AMERICAN DIESEL HERE AT
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Speaker 1: HOME AND REBUILD THE REFINERIES WE LET ROT FOR 30
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Speaker 1: YEARS UNDER ENVIRONMENTAL POLICIES DRIVEN BY DEMOCRATS. And just today,
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Speaker 1: his administration rolled out lower fuel economy rules to take
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Speaker 1: costs back off the backs of the drivers. You can
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Speaker 1: argue about how fast it works, but you can't argue
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Speaker 1: that he's ignoring it. He's not. This was never a
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Speaker 1: let them eat cake moment. This isn't a let them
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Speaker 1: eat cake administration. It's actually the opposite. Trump is doing
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Speaker 1: something about it. Nevertheless, the left's playbook is being implemented perfectly.
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Speaker 1: Manufacture the contempt. Put the champagne on your screen. Put
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Speaker 1: the word starving right next to it. Put out posts
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Speaker 1: from people who've always hated Trump to make you believe
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Speaker 1: that nobody can afford anything. And let the feelings do
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Speaker 1: the rest. And do it now, on purpose, with the
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Speaker 1: midterms just over a month away, because a country that
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Speaker 1: believes it's in a depression votes differently than a country
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Speaker 1: that checks the numbers. And if the playbook feels familiar,
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Speaker 1: that's because it should be. They've been aiming it at
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Speaker 1: the Trump family for years. Another attempt to turn eyes
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Speaker 1: away from anything good this president has done. And let's
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Speaker 1: be honest here. Let them eat cake in and of itself?
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Speaker 1: It isn't an argument about the economy. It's a revolution slogan. Honestly,
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Speaker 1: did you know this? It's the first image in every
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Speaker 1: socialist movement in history. The fat elite laughing on the
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Speaker 1: cart while you go without. France reached for it. The
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Speaker 1: Bolsheviks reached for it. Venezuela reached for it. And then
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Speaker 1: the grocery shelves went empty. The pattern never changes. Manufacture
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Speaker 1: the grievance. Attach a slogan to it. Let them eat cake.
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Speaker 1: We don't care. Point at somebody who has more than
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Speaker 1: you and then promise that if you just give the
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Speaker 1: power to the right people, they'll make it all fair.
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Speaker 1: They'll even it all out. They'll take from them and
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Speaker 1: give it to you, right? It has never once ended
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Speaker 1: in more for you. It always ends in less for
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Speaker 1: you and more power for them every single time. Which
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Speaker 1: is exactly why they need you angry at that luggage cart.
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Speaker 1: Because if you're staring at a champagne bottle, you're not
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Speaker 1: paying attention. to the 162,000 jobs created or a market
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Speaker 1: at record highs. And you're not asking the only question
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Speaker 1: that actually matters heading into November? Whose plan will put
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Speaker 1: more in your pocket? Whose plan offers a brighter future?
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Speaker 1: The one producing record energy and beating every jobs estimate?
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Speaker 1: Or the one that's been promising to make it fair
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Speaker 1: since the early 1900s that brought nothing but suffering and
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Speaker 1: misery to everywhere socialism is implemented? POST A VIDEO. DON'T
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Speaker 1: POST A VIDEO. I DON'T CARE. BUT DON'T LET A
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Speaker 1: CHEAP SOCIALIST TALKING POINT AND A PHOTO FROM SOMEBODY HAVING
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Speaker 1: A GOOD TIME MADE ON AI TALK YOU OUT OF
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Speaker 1: WHAT'S TRUE. THIS COUNTRY IS MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
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Speaker 1: WE ARE HEADING TO A GOLDEN AGE. THE ECONOMY IS STRONG.
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Speaker 1: THE ONE SORE SPOT IS GETTING HAMMERED ON BY THIS
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Speaker 1: PRESIDENT EVERY SINGLE DAY. AND THE PEOPLE TELLING YOU IT'S HOPELESS.
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Speaker 1: I WANT YOU TO REMEMBER THIS. I WANT YOU TO
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Speaker 1: REMEMBER THIS. YOU ARE THE SAME PEOPLE WHO ONLY WIN
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Speaker 1: IF YOU BELIEVE THEM. DON'T BELIEVE THEM. Still ahead tonight,
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Speaker 1: the new socialist target isn't billionaires anymore. It's your parents,
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Speaker 1: it's your grandparents, and it's their retirement savings and everything
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Speaker 1: they worked for. Then the child trafficking happening on American
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Speaker 1: farms and what happens when the agents get pulled off
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Speaker 1: the fields and a warning about a drug you've probably
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Speaker 1: Before the break, we talked about the socialist let them
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Speaker 1: eat cake narrative that's being attached to any Trump ally
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Speaker 1: that's not just sitting around miserable or dares to post
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Speaker 1: a picture of them having a good time or being
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Speaker 1: on vacation or whatever. But it's not just Trump officials,
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Speaker 1: that's right. It's the people who voted for him, two
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Speaker 1: of those awful boomers. Yep, sweet old grandma and grandpa.
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Speaker 1: They're the new villains trending in America this week. Not
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Speaker 1: a bank, not a billionaire, your grandparents. It's true. Young
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Speaker 1: socialists are mad that your grandparents aren't broke. According to
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Speaker 1: the Federal Reserve, the baby boomers, Americans roughly 60 to
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Speaker 1: 80 years old, now hold more than half of all
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Speaker 1: the wealth in this country. 52% of it, $ 97 trillion,
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Speaker 1: and they're about a fifth of the population. Everyone under 45,
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Speaker 1: every millennial, and every member of the Gen Z combined
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Speaker 1: holds about 11%. And so the take rights itself, right?
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Speaker 1: The boomers, they gobbled it all up. They hoarded it
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Speaker 1: like toilet paper during COVID. And now it's time for
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Speaker 1: us to take it back. Wealth transfer, they call it.
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Speaker 1: Redistribution with a softer name. So why do the boomers
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Speaker 1: have the money? Well, it's because they're old. That's not
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Speaker 1: an insult. It's the entire answer. Wealth isn't something you're
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Speaker 1: handed at birth. Well, not for most of us. It's
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Speaker 1: something you stack, you earn one year at a time
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Speaker 1: across a working life. And the boomers, well, they've had
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Speaker 1: a full life. They bought their first home when a
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Speaker 1: house was cheap and watched that house climb for 40 years.
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Speaker 1: They put money in the market and rode the greatest
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Speaker 1: run in the history of capitalism. Boomers own more than
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Speaker 1: half of every share of stock in America. They saved.
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Speaker 1: They compounded. They waited four decades of doing the boring thing.
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Speaker 1: And the boring thing worked just like they did. It's
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Speaker 1: not a heist. It's the American dream in action. Nevertheless,
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Speaker 1: now the socialists are coming for the boomers, too. Remember
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Speaker 1: when it used to be the millionaires and then the billionaires?
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Speaker 1: Now the villain is anybody with a paid-off house and
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Speaker 1: a retirement account, retired electrician, a widow living off of
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Speaker 1: what she put away. We've quietly turned the simple act
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Speaker 1: of saving money into a moral crime, set a dollar
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Speaker 1: aside for 30 years, and now you're the problem. And
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Speaker 1: it rests on a lie. THE OLDEST ONE IN THE
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Speaker 1: LEFT PLAYBOOK THAT THEY TELL YOU ABOUT MONEY, THAT WEALTH
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Speaker 1: IS A FIXED PIE. SO IF SOMEONE IS HOLDING A
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Speaker 1: BIG SLICE OF WEALTH, THEY MUST HAVE TAKEN IT FROM
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Speaker 1: SOMEBODY ELSE, RIGHT? BUT AN ECONOMY ISN'T A PIE. IT'S
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Speaker 1: A BAKERY. YOUR GRANDFATHER BUYING A HOUSE IN 1985 DIDN'T
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Speaker 1: REACH INTO YOUR POCKET. HE DIDN'T TAKE A SINGLE DOLLAR
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Speaker 1: FROM ANY 25-YEAR-OLD ALIVE TODAY. And the grievance collapses on
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Speaker 1: one fact the left never mentions. Since 2020? The wealth
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Speaker 1: held by millennials and Gen Z has nearly quadrupled from
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Speaker 1: $ 5 trillion to almost 21. They added $ 15 trillion in
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Speaker 1: six years, the fastest growing group in the country. And
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Speaker 1: that's before the biggest inheritance in human history even lands
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Speaker 1: because the boomers aren't taking it with them to the grave.
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Speaker 1: They're leaving it. $ 84 trillion by some counts, well over
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Speaker 1: $ 100 trillion. Most of it flowing straight to their own
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Speaker 1: kids and grandkids now. Doesn't vanish. It comes home. But
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Speaker 1: you better believe that the socialists are eager to get
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Speaker 1: their hands on your grandparents' wealth before you do. And
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Speaker 1: it's not just boomers retain wealth. The socialists also deeply
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Speaker 1: envy their ability to own a home. How bourgeois to
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Speaker 1: own a home, right? But to be fair, housing is
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Speaker 1: brutal at the moment. A 27-year-old today is less likely
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Speaker 1: to own a home than his parents were at the
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Speaker 1: same age, and that's a real problem with a real cause.
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Speaker 1: And that cause isn't hidden in interest rates. Interest rates
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Speaker 1: have been higher than they are right now. The reality
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Speaker 1: is that we stopped building. Socialist policies focused on urbanization
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Speaker 1: have limited the opportunity to build and buy homes in
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Speaker 1: the rural outskirts of cities. It's true. Look it up. Everything's,
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Speaker 1: let's build in the middle. Let's build in the city. Up, up, up,
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Speaker 1: instead of out, out, out. So what's the obvious solution?
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Speaker 1: Is it seizing grandma's house and stealing her wealth through taxation?
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Speaker 5: No.
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Speaker 1: The conservative thing to do would be to build more homes,
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Speaker 1: find cheaper energy, and allow a paycheck to stretch a
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Speaker 1: bit further without the burden of higher taxes. And that's
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Speaker 1: exactly what this administration is doing. The other path, the
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Speaker 1: path that the socialists in this country are promoting, and yes,
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Speaker 1: I mean Democrats because there's really no difference these days,
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Speaker 1: that road doesn't end with everyone richer. It ends with
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Speaker 1: everyone poor. And a government deciding who's allowed to keep what, well,
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Speaker 1: they'll sell it to you as fairness. It's the same
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Speaker 1: deal it's always been. Hand us the power and we'll
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Speaker 1: even it all out. But nobody gets evened up. They
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Speaker 1: just all get leveled. Joining me now is Dennis Neal,
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Speaker 1: veteran business journalist and former Fox Business anchor who's covered
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Speaker 1: Wall Street and Silicon Valley for decades. Dennis, thanks for
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Speaker 1: being here. Is the next generation getting robbed? Are these
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Speaker 1: boomers the bad guys? Or are socialists just moving on
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Speaker 1: to another villain to seize wealth from?
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Speaker 6: Well, David, speaking as I'm a member of the baby boomers,
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Speaker 6: but I identify as a millennial. But I've got to
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Speaker 6: say that keep your hands off my wealth. I spent
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Speaker 6: my entire career, my entire adult life building this. And
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Speaker 6: now boomers are 20% of the population, 50% of the
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Speaker 6: accumulated wealth. But we're already passing out $ 3 trillion.
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Speaker 7: A year to our heirs.
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Speaker 6: And it's going to be a total of $ 100 trillion
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Speaker 6: passed on in the next 25 years or so.
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Speaker 7: So shut up about it. And meanwhile, keep your hands
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Speaker 7: off it.
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Speaker 6: This is what happens, though, when we change America from
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Speaker 6: the land of opportunity into the land of envy. And
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Speaker 6: that idea, like you said, that because Elon Musk is rich,
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Speaker 6: that's why I don't have anything. When actually you have
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Speaker 6: a great life and you don't save enough and you
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Speaker 6: spend too much.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know... And I've been so frustrated, and I
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Speaker 1: don't like arguing with my own side. I don't believe
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Speaker 1: in the circular firing squad. I don't think we should
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Speaker 1: do the left's job for them and argue with each
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Speaker 1: other when we should be arguing against them and their policies.
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Speaker 1: But there's so much effort, and I talked about it
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Speaker 1: before in the show, there's so much effort being put
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Speaker 1: into this narrative of the haves and the have-nots, gas
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Speaker 1: prices being so high, things are unaffordable, and it's all
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Speaker 1: Trump's fault. But the thing is, this is a narrative
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Speaker 1: that's being really a bow being put on it from
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Speaker 1: the socialists and delivered to this world. The fact that
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Speaker 1: we have more opportunity in this country now probably than
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Speaker 1: ever before. And I don't understand how we got to
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Speaker 1: a place where people are not seizing opportunity. Instead, they're
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Speaker 1: talking about the lack of it. WHEN PEOPLE ARE LIVING
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Speaker 1: BETTER NOW THAN THEY'VE EVER LIVED BEFORE. SO HOW DO
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Speaker 1: WE COMBAT THIS MESSAGE THAT'S CLEARLY RESIGNATING WITH PEOPLE WHO
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Speaker 1: LOOK AROUND AND THEY CAN'T BUY A HOME, THEY LOOK
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Speaker 1: AROUND AND THEIR CAR IS EXPENSIVE, THEY LOOK AROUND AND
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Speaker 1: ALL THESE THINGS COST WHAT? I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS.
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Speaker 1: I DON'T KNOW HOW TO WIN THIS BATTLE OF THE
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Speaker 1: NARRATIVE BATTLE. But things aren't really that bad, are they, Dennis,
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Speaker 1: historically speaking?
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Speaker 7: Things are so good right now. My gosh.
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Speaker 6: We've got GDP growth discounting inflation at 5% plus. We've
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Speaker 6: got the poverty rate down to 10%, the lowest on
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Speaker 6: record in the decades of record keeping. We've got the
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Speaker 6: bottom 25% of wage earners, their wages are growing the
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Speaker 6: fastest and growing far faster than inflation. We've got the
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Speaker 6: most murderous regime in the world. You know, we've got
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Speaker 6: a boot on their neck and they are basically defenseless
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Speaker 6: in Iran. We've got the AI revolution that is creating
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Speaker 6: a construction boom, blue collar jobs, driving higher wages, driving
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Speaker 6: productivity in Loudoun County, Virginia. The average home is paying $ 5, 800
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Speaker 6: less per year in property taxes because of the new
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Speaker 6: AI data centers in town. I mean, there's all kinds
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Speaker 6: of reasons for optimism. The stock market has hit 80
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Speaker 6: all-time highs this year. And meanwhile, though, as I might
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Speaker 6: have mentioned before, because I repeat myself, the University of
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Speaker 6: Michigan Consumer Sentiment Index, it's out tomorrow, I.
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Speaker 7: Think, it's at all-time lows. Why would that be?
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Speaker 6: That gap between what stocks know and investors know versus
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Speaker 6: what consumers think. And it's because of the media and
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Speaker 6: their anti-Trump message. They cannot celebrate this economy. They're terrified
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Speaker 6: it will help Republicans in the midterm.
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Speaker 1: Well, look, they say facts don't care about your feelings.
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Speaker 1: But in this instance, feelings don't care about facts. And
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Speaker 1: if I were to take what you just said, bottle
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Speaker 1: it up and post it on every social media post
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Speaker 1: criticizing his president's economy or put it out in a newspaper,
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Speaker 1: put it as a headline, people are going to say
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Speaker 1: the same thing to me. David, you're tone deaf, just
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Speaker 1: like Trump. You're not listening. People are hurting out here
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Speaker 1: and you're out there acting like everything's hunky dory. How
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Speaker 1: do we win? Because it seems to me. Like, the
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Speaker 1: socialist takeover is inevitable because, like I just mentioned, the facts,
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Speaker 1: the feelings do not care about the facts. So if
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Speaker 1: the facts aren't winning the argument, what are we going
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Speaker 1: to do?
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Speaker 6: The problem with young liberal voters, the problem with Democrats,
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Speaker 6: is they do continue to elect the same old foolish
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Speaker 6: candidates based on their moral intent rather than outcomes.
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Speaker 7: That's true in Oregon. It's, you know, as I point
21:12
Speaker 7: out in my book, Oregoners.
21:13
Speaker 6: The Democrats just keep reelecting failure without focusing on the
21:17
Speaker 6: bad outcomes. But we've got to start paying more attention
21:21
Speaker 6: to it. Shame on voters if they let socialist Muslim
21:25
Speaker 6: communists take over the future of the Democrat Party and
21:29
Speaker 6: if they refuse to elect Republicans, which are at least,
21:33
Speaker 6: you know, a different alternative. And shame on Republicans if
21:37
Speaker 6: they fail to sell the message of how great this
21:40
Speaker 6: economy is doing and to sell it adequately.
21:43
Speaker 7: You know, there's great reasons for optimism. Hope is a.
21:47
Speaker 6: Decision and capitalism is optimism monetized.
21:52
Speaker 7: And that's what more people have to realize. We have
21:55
Speaker 7: a great life. We are spoiled.
21:58
Speaker 6: 165 million people in other countries would come to the U.S.
22:02
Speaker 6: as their first choice if they were allowed. And that's
22:05
Speaker 6: shown in polls dating back probably 10 years.
22:09
Speaker 7: And it's because we're the greatest nation on earth.
22:11
Speaker 6: And yet, you know, affordability, affordability. There is very little
22:16
Speaker 6: government can do in the short term about affordability. And
22:19
Speaker 6: the thought that the Democrats are going to do a
22:21
Speaker 6: better job at it is simply ridiculous. Wages have to
22:25
Speaker 6: grow faster to catch up to all of that. And
22:29
Speaker 6: they are doing that.
22:31
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's exactly right. I hope people are paying attention.
22:34
Speaker 1: This audience knows. This is a very well-informed audience. They
22:37
Speaker 1: know the truth. And hopefully they can share the message
22:40
Speaker 1: and spread the word. Look, the reality is, like I
22:44
Speaker 1: said earlier, first it was the billionaires, then it was
22:46
Speaker 1: the millionaires, then it was the executives on Wall Street.
22:48
Speaker 1: Now it's the boomers. After the boomers, anybody who owns anything,
22:52
Speaker 1: they'll be coming for you too. This is a slippery
22:55
Speaker 1: slope and we have to stop it. Dennis Neal, thank
22:57
Speaker 1: you so much for being here as always.
22:59
Speaker 2: Thanks, David.
23:01
Speaker 1: Coming up, 300,000 migrant children the government can't find. We've
23:05
Speaker 1: talked about them on this show. And the farms where
23:08
Speaker 1: some of them end up are being overlooked by new
23:11
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Speaker 1: There's been a bit of a tug of war this
23:58
Speaker 1: weekend over the government's deportation policy. New reports claiming ICE
24:03
Speaker 1: had been told to stop arresting illegal immigrants unless they
24:07
Speaker 1: were hardened criminals. The president killed that within hours, saying
24:12
Speaker 1: anyone here illegally, he said, is still on the table.
24:15
Speaker 1: And Homeland Security put it in writing, and that's good.
24:19
Speaker 1: But listen to what the new secretary, Mark Wayne Mullen,
24:22
Speaker 1: said about Kansas. He said, ICE is not conducting worksite
24:28
Speaker 1: operations there, just the worst of the worst. It says murderers, rapists,
24:33
Speaker 1: drug traffickers. And that came right after the farm lobby
24:37
Speaker 1: leaned on Washington to pull the agents back from the field. Now,
24:41
Speaker 1: hold on to that, because there's a difference. The whole
24:43
Speaker 1: debate keeps blurring. Smuggling is moving a person across a
24:47
Speaker 1: border for money. Trafficking is what happens after that person
24:51
Speaker 1: becomes property. Forced to work... into terrible conditions, and the
24:55
Speaker 1: trafficker is almost never the person with the deportation order.
25:00
Speaker 1: They hide behind their workers, out on the worksite, chase
25:04
Speaker 1: only the deportation list, and you walk straight past them,
25:06
Speaker 1: chase the worst of the worst. Well, nobody knows they exist.
25:10
Speaker 1: So let's talk about one of those worksites, because this
25:13
Speaker 1: is exactly what a farm operation turns up when someone
25:16
Speaker 1: actually looks. A farm right here in the American heartland,
25:20
Speaker 1: where more than 100 unaccompanied children were put to work
25:24
Speaker 1: Not teenagers with summer jobs. Homeland Security has been hard
25:27
Speaker 1: at work to find them for months. Children, anti-trafficking investigators
25:32
Speaker 1: brought it to the Homeland Security investigators, the federal agents,
25:36
Speaker 1: whose whole job is exactly this. And what turned up
25:39
Speaker 1: when those kids reached a local school is now in
25:42
Speaker 1: the congressional record. And it's hard to even say out loud.
25:45
Speaker 1: Little ones showing up sick, showing up injured. One of
25:49
Speaker 1: them 13 years old, pregnant, carrying the proof of what
25:53
Speaker 1: was being done to her. On a farm? In the
25:56
Speaker 1: United States, by the way. And that's exactly how a
25:59
Speaker 1: system can lose 300,000 kids. Since 2019, Washington has poured
26:03
Speaker 1: roughly $ 14 billion into a program that was supposed to
26:07
Speaker 1: place these children safely. Instead, under the last administration, the
26:11
Speaker 1: Biden administration... It ran like a conveyor belt. Kids released
26:15
Speaker 1: to sponsors. Nobody properly vetted. Some handed straight to the
26:18
Speaker 1: people exploiting them. Whistleblowers inside the agency say they flagged it,
26:23
Speaker 1: and the releases kept coming. It's not a border story.
26:28
Speaker 1: It's a child protection catastrophe, and it was built on
26:32
Speaker 1: somebody's watch. Federal prosecutors have charged a forced laboring in Kansas.
26:37
Speaker 1: They used minors. They're investigating migrant teenagers put to work
26:40
Speaker 1: overnight scrubbing slaughterhouse kill floors with caustic chemicals. A Kansas
26:46
Speaker 1: couple was indicted for faking documents to take custody of
26:49
Speaker 1: a migrant child. Indictments. These aren't rumors. These are actual indictments.
26:53
Speaker 1: So here's the whole point. A farm holding 100 trafficked children, well,
26:58
Speaker 1: it doesn't turn itself in. The only way anyone ever
27:01
Speaker 1: finds those kids is agents walking onto that farm. So
27:05
Speaker 1: when the word out of Kansas becomes no worksite operations,
27:08
Speaker 1: only going after the worst of the worst, when the
27:11
Speaker 1: lobby gets the fields declared off limits, understand what that means.
27:16
Speaker 1: It means the next farm doesn't get checked. It means
27:19
Speaker 1: the next hundred children go unnoticed. The president says no
27:23
Speaker 1: one in this country illegally is off the table. Then
27:27
Speaker 1: neither is the farm. Send the agents where the children are.
27:32
Speaker 1: Join me now as Allie Hopper, president of Guard Against Trafficking.
27:35
Speaker 1: She and her team are the ones who brought that
27:37
Speaker 1: farm to Homeland Security from Kansas. And she's carried this
27:41
Speaker 1: fight all the way to Washington. Allie, thank you so
27:44
Speaker 1: much for being here. How important is it? And you've
27:48
Speaker 1: made it clear. How important is it that we go
27:51
Speaker 1: after all illegal aliens so we can find these kids,
27:54
Speaker 1: not just the worst of the worst, because that's how
27:56
Speaker 1: these kids fall through the cracks, right?
27:59
Speaker 8: Yeah, David, it's extremely important. I mean, your example of
28:02
Speaker 8: the farm in the Midwest is key to understanding this
28:06
Speaker 8: issue as a whole. When you prioritize the worst of
28:09
Speaker 8: the worst, yes, that's fine. But you miss occasions or
28:14
Speaker 8: situations like the farm in Kansas, where there were over
28:18
Speaker 8: 100 unaccompanied alien children that were forced to work in
28:22
Speaker 8: the worst conditions. barely showed up to school, had no
28:25
Speaker 8: one doing meaningful welfare checks on them, and their lives
28:29
Speaker 8: matter too. So at the end of the day, we
28:31
Speaker 8: need secure borders and we need everyone on the same page.
28:36
Speaker 8: I don't know where that communication or miscommunication came from,
28:40
Speaker 8: but I'm really glad the president set the record straight.
28:44
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, look, the president has been clear on
28:46
Speaker 1: his policy. It seemed the disagreement has been between Markway Mullen,
28:50
Speaker 1: and the president. I don't know if, you know, I
28:54
Speaker 1: really don't know what to make of that situation. A
28:55
Speaker 1: lot of people have been vocal about it on both sides.
28:58
Speaker 1: But honestly, the solution is simple to me, and it's
29:02
Speaker 1: simple to a lot of people looking from the outside,
29:04
Speaker 1: and that's deport everybody. Any illegal alien in this country,
29:07
Speaker 1: we have to go after them wherever they are. And
29:09
Speaker 1: groups like yours are identifying where these folks are. And
29:13
Speaker 1: if we don't send agents in to get these folks,
29:15
Speaker 1: how are we going to get to the children? So
29:17
Speaker 1: This is where the gray area of policy, where a
29:20
Speaker 1: lack of clear policy can have serious consequences, especially for children.
29:24
Speaker 1: So if we stop enforcing, you know, the farms and
29:28
Speaker 1: the workplaces and just really look after people that are
29:30
Speaker 1: selling drugs, I mean, how many kids do you think
29:33
Speaker 1: are going to be caught in this sort of web
29:36
Speaker 1: of trafficking?
29:39
Speaker 8: Look, at the end of the day, I don't know
29:40
Speaker 8: any farm worker that willingly wants to say that they
29:43
Speaker 8: are participating in modern day slavery just to make sure
29:47
Speaker 8: that their farm operates.
29:48
Speaker 1: The way that it should.
29:49
Speaker 8: They need to be able to have security that these
29:54
Speaker 8: farms are being conducted and managed in the proper way.
29:58
Speaker 8: That means legal immigration. That means enforcing proper legal channels.
30:04
Speaker 8: And if someone is there illegally, we need to make
30:07
Speaker 8: sure that they are okay and they are sent back
30:11
Speaker 8: to their home country. But at the end of the day,
30:14
Speaker 8: these children's lives are at stake. And if we overlook farms,
30:18
Speaker 8: construction sites for the sake of special interest groups and lobbying,
30:23
Speaker 8: then we're missing a whole segment of people that are
30:27
Speaker 8: harmed as a result of these policies that are entered
30:30
Speaker 8: into modern-day slavery and indentured servitude. That is everything that
30:34
Speaker 8: this country fought against in the Civil War, and we
30:38
Speaker 8: are not trying to return to that. We need safety,
30:41
Speaker 8: security in this country, and rule of law.
30:44
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, and, you know, it's... admitted to basically out
30:49
Speaker 1: in the open, the entire argument from the farm lobby
30:51
Speaker 1: is the labor, right? I mean, they basically said, if
30:54
Speaker 1: we deport people, if they don't feel safe on the
30:56
Speaker 1: farms or the work sites, well, we're not going to
30:58
Speaker 1: be able to grow the food. We're not going to
31:00
Speaker 1: be able to feed America. And as a result, prices
31:02
Speaker 1: will go up. And so in response to that argument,
31:05
Speaker 1: it's been, OK, well, you know, I guess let's just
31:08
Speaker 1: let it go, sort of fall to the bottom of
31:11
Speaker 1: the priority list. But they've said it out in the open.
31:13
Speaker 1: I mean, people, they need the illegal labor to do
31:18
Speaker 1: the jobs. And allowing that to happen is causing the
31:22
Speaker 1: results you're talking about. Look, I'm sure there is a
31:25
Speaker 1: solution here, because we can't let food prices jump overnight.
31:27
Speaker 1: We can't close farms. They're under enough stress right now,
31:30
Speaker 1: especially with the price of diesel and things like that.
31:32
Speaker 1: We can't take away labor right away. But certainly, if
31:35
Speaker 1: we're not going to prioritize farm labor, then maybe we
31:37
Speaker 1: should prioritize at least investigations to make sure there isn't
31:40
Speaker 1: human trafficking or smuggled people going on, right?
31:44
Speaker 8: Absolutely. And honestly, when you say that you're not going
31:47
Speaker 8: to prioritize these areas and these work groups and these industries,
31:51
Speaker 8: that actually encourages bad actors, cartel members to flee to
31:55
Speaker 8: those areas of work. That's what we're seeing in sanctuary
31:58
Speaker 8: cities and sanctuary states. We're seeing criminal organizations and cartel
32:03
Speaker 8: members and traffickers head to that state or city to
32:07
Speaker 8: continue conducting operations. That is not what we want to encourage.
32:12
Speaker 1: We want to.
32:12
Speaker 8: Encourage the opposite, that we enforce the rule of law
32:16
Speaker 8: and that you will not be safe wherever you go
32:19
Speaker 8: if you are involved in human trafficking of any sort.
32:23
Speaker 8: And if you cross this into this country illegally, you
32:26
Speaker 8: need to make sure that you either self-deport or you
32:31
Speaker 8: turn yourself in because no place is off limits. And
32:34
Speaker 8: especially those that are upholding sanctuary policies, we need to
32:40
Speaker 8: prioritize looking in those areas as well.
32:43
Speaker 1: Makes sense to me. Thank you for all of the
32:47
Speaker 1: hard work that you've done to help traffic children in
32:51
Speaker 1: this country. And thank you for bringing awareness to this
32:54
Speaker 1: very important issue.
32:57
Speaker 8: Thank you so much, David.
32:58
Speaker 2: Thanks, Allie.
32:59
Speaker 1: Well, it starts as an herb, some sort of supplement,
33:04
Speaker 1: and it ends up a synthetic opioid sitting on the
33:07
Speaker 1: shelf right next to beef jerky. The gas station drug
33:12
Speaker 1: killing unsuspecting young Americans and the deaths already piling up.
33:17
Speaker 1: We have more on that later. And it's Maha Monday,
33:21
Speaker 1: why the chicken on your plate looks nothing like it
33:23
Speaker 1: did in 1957 and what that says about the food
33:26
Speaker 1: making America sick. All that's coming up. Don't go anywhere.
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34:11
Speaker 1: There is a growing drug epidemic in this country, and
34:15
Speaker 1: it's killing young people who never saw it coming. It's
34:18
Speaker 1: not fentanyl. It's not heroin. It's something most Americans haven't
34:22
Speaker 1: even heard of. It's called 7-OH, whatever that is. It
34:27
Speaker 1: starts as a plant, krantum, I think they're calling it,
34:30
Speaker 1: an herb that's been around for generations. But by the
34:34
Speaker 1: time it reaches the store shelf... It's been concentrated and
34:39
Speaker 1: synthesized into a powerful opioid. And it's sold legally in
34:45
Speaker 1: gas stations and convenience stores across the country. Tablets, gummies,
34:51
Speaker 1: liquid shots, drink mixes, all sitting right there by the
34:55
Speaker 1: register in those ridiculous-looking packages that you tend to ignore.
34:58
Speaker 1: You know, beef jerky and energy drinks. No prescription, no ID,
35:03
Speaker 1: labeled as a natural supplement. And it's killing people. Two
35:07
Speaker 1: weeks ago, two students at the University of Mississippi were
35:12
Speaker 1: found dead at separate locations within days of each other.
35:18
Speaker 1: At both scenes, police recovered package Cranham. Now, to be clear,
35:23
Speaker 1: the toxicology report isn't back. The students haven't been identified,
35:27
Speaker 1: and no one has confirmed a cause of death or
35:29
Speaker 1: any of that stuff. So we can't not yet definitively
35:33
Speaker 1: tie one to the other. But the narcotics officers in
35:36
Speaker 1: Oxford saw enough to take a rare step. They went
35:39
Speaker 1: public and told the entire community to stop using the
35:41
Speaker 1: product immediately. Some states have already reacted to that. Earlier
35:45
Speaker 1: this summer in South Carolina, a 29-year-old named Micah Knox
35:49
Speaker 1: was also found dead in his bed. Micah had been
35:52
Speaker 1: sober for nine and a half months. He spent his
35:54
Speaker 1: time helping teenage girls recover from eating disorders. What killed
35:57
Speaker 1: him was 7-OH bought at a gas station. His parents,
36:03
Speaker 1: Robert and Dana... They're asking lawmakers to regulate it before
36:07
Speaker 1: it takes another family's child. Dana calls in her words,
36:10
Speaker 1: silent fentanyl. And these aren't two isolated stories. Death tied
36:14
Speaker 1: to these products are turning up across the map. Mississippi,
36:19
Speaker 1: South Carolina, Georgia, Florida. Because the same substance is on
36:23
Speaker 1: the same shelf in every state. Because 70AH... Doesn't sit
36:28
Speaker 1: up there alone. Next to it, you'll find other drugs,
36:32
Speaker 1: nicknamed gas station heroin, sold as supplements, kratom extracts, feel-good tonics,
36:38
Speaker 1: and shots. An entire shadow pharmacy, unregulated, hiding in plain
36:42
Speaker 1: sight in the corner store. And 70H, it's not mild.
36:46
Speaker 1: It exists in only trace amounts in the natural leaf,
36:50
Speaker 1: but the concentrated version on the shelves is many times stronger,
36:53
Speaker 1: potent enough to build a real opioid dependence. And addiction
36:57
Speaker 1: clinics say they're now seeing a steady stream of people
37:00
Speaker 1: hooked on something they picked up at a gas station.
37:04
Speaker 1: And that word, unregulated, that's the whole problem right there.
37:07
Speaker 1: These products slipped onto the market through the supplement loophole.
37:10
Speaker 1: The FDA approval, no dosing standards, no warning labels. It
37:15
Speaker 1: means anything can really be up there if it's a supplement.
37:19
Speaker 1: And when the government does try to shut one down,
37:21
Speaker 1: the industry just tweaks a molecule, prints a new name
37:24
Speaker 1: on it, and puts it right back there on the market.
37:27
Speaker 1: Washington is finally moving. The DEA has acted to place
37:30
Speaker 1: 70H and its synthetic cousins in the same legal category
37:33
Speaker 1: as heroin. And the FDA commissioner has warned this could
37:37
Speaker 1: be the fourth wave of the opioid epidemic. But the
37:41
Speaker 1: law moves slowly and the chemistry moves fast. So while
37:45
Speaker 1: the regulations catch up, the product stays on the counter.
37:48
Speaker 1: And somewhere in this country tonight, another young person who
37:52
Speaker 1: did nothing more reckless than buy something legal at a
37:56
Speaker 1: gas station. They're going to find out the hard way
37:59
Speaker 1: what's actually in it. Now, joining me now is Kevin Sabet,
38:02
Speaker 1: president of the Foundation for Drug Policy Solutions and a
38:05
Speaker 1: former White House drug policy advisor to three presidents. Kevin,
38:10
Speaker 1: thanks for being here. How did this end up on
38:12
Speaker 1: the shelves, and how are people getting away with making
38:14
Speaker 1: something so dangerous?
38:16
Speaker 4: Thanks, David.
38:17
Speaker 2: I appreciate you covering this story. Yeah, well, it's a
38:19
Speaker 2: tragedy what's happened at Ole Miss. We don't know if
38:21
Speaker 2: it's exactly because of the Kratom or not, or there
38:24
Speaker 2: probably are other drugs in the system as well. But
38:26
Speaker 2: these things made it on because they have powerful interest groups.
38:29
Speaker 2: You know, there are money talks in Washington and talks
38:32
Speaker 2: for Republicans and Democrats. And so there's a powerful interest
38:35
Speaker 2: group trying to legitimize, legalize this stuff. And right now,
38:40
Speaker 2: Congress has basically been totally impotent to do much about it.
38:43
Speaker 2: And so you see this on the gas station's shelf.
38:46
Speaker 2: The FDA and HHS under this administration has scheduled the
38:51
Speaker 2: one element of it. But the whole element, the whole
38:54
Speaker 2: drug is a problem. It's not just the 7-OH. It's
38:56
Speaker 2: the kratom leaf. It has metragynine, which can actually turn
39:00
Speaker 2: into that 7-OH in the system. It's very complicated. The
39:03
Speaker 2: point is we should not be having this stuff on
39:05
Speaker 2: any kinds of legal shelves.
39:07
Speaker 1: And, you know... It's been like this, honestly, for generations
39:10
Speaker 1: because I remember when I was younger and, you know,
39:13
Speaker 1: they would take no-dose, just caffeine caplets, and they would
39:17
Speaker 1: abuse those to a place where they can get something
39:19
Speaker 1: like a high. And you can go to any convenience store,
39:21
Speaker 1: any bodega, any place that sells that kind of stuff
39:24
Speaker 1: next to the vapes. There's shelves, shelves of these weird
39:28
Speaker 1: sort of funky brandy. items that nobody has any idea
39:31
Speaker 1: what they are, but kids figure out how to abuse them.
39:34
Speaker 1: I mean, all of them are dangerous, right? All of
39:36
Speaker 1: it has to stop, right?
39:37
Speaker 9: Yeah.
39:38
Speaker 2: It all does have to stop. Obviously, the demand is
39:41
Speaker 2: a huge part of this. We need to reduce demand.
39:43
Speaker 2: I want to see the public service announcements like we
39:45
Speaker 2: used to have. We can modernize them. I'm not saying
39:48
Speaker 2: we need a frying egg in a pan, but we
39:50
Speaker 2: can modernize them. You work with social media and voices
39:53
Speaker 2: that young people understand. These smoke shops need to be investigated, too.
39:58
Speaker 2: One of them was just raided in Ole Miss. Who
40:00
Speaker 2: knows if it's related to this, but to the deaths,
40:02
Speaker 2: but these smoke shops, there's probably 50,000 or more of
40:05
Speaker 2: them in the United States. And they basically do it
40:07
Speaker 2: and sell anything they want under the radar, including high
40:10
Speaker 2: potency THC. I actually think maybe this is unpopular, but
40:12
Speaker 2: I think we all, this whole thing got started with
40:15
Speaker 2: high potency THC marijuana legalizing and commercializing it, which I
40:19
Speaker 2: think is a horrible mistake for this country.
40:21
Speaker 1: Oh, I completely agree with you. That's where you saw
40:23
Speaker 1: it really explode. The head shops, the smoke shops, that
40:26
Speaker 1: everything's THC. It really there's so many opportunities for young
40:31
Speaker 1: people now, uninformed young people to go out there and
40:34
Speaker 1: use whatever substances they want, whether legal or not. And
40:38
Speaker 1: it's really dangerous, and we're starting to see the real-life
40:40
Speaker 1: consequences on it. Thank you for the work you do
40:42
Speaker 1: and making people aware of it. And I look forward
40:45
Speaker 1: to having you on again because this story is not
40:46
Speaker 1: going away, and we need to keep talking about this
40:48
Speaker 1: to keep our kids safe because they really don't know
40:49
Speaker 1: what they're getting into these days.
40:50
Speaker 2: You're right.
40:51
Speaker 1: There's no public service announcements. There's nothing. They go out
40:53
Speaker 1: into the world, and then they're dead. And I got
40:55
Speaker 1: to just– one more thing.
40:56
Speaker 2: It's not even just the kids. It's also the adults.
40:58
Speaker 2: The parents have no idea. The marijuana from the old
41:00
Speaker 2: days was 3% THC. Now it can be up to 99%.
41:02
Speaker 2: They've never seen this Kratom stuff. They don't know fentanyl.
41:05
Speaker 2: Parents are actually maybe more uninformed than the kids. So
41:08
Speaker 2: we need a whole of society effort on this. I
41:10
Speaker 2: appreciate you covering it, David.
41:12
Speaker 1: Yeah, agreed. And thank you for your hard work on it.
41:13
Speaker 1: We'll talk again real soon.
41:14
Speaker 2: Thanks a lot.
41:15
Speaker 1: Still ahead. It's Maha Monday. Put a chicken from 1957
41:21
Speaker 1: next to the one in your grocery cart today. And
41:24
Speaker 1: you're looking at two way different animals, what we did
41:27
Speaker 1: to our food and what it's doing to us. That's next.
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Speaker 1: Take a chicken from 1957. I really hope you're not saving.
42:17
Speaker 1: A chicken from 1957. But hypothetically, take a chicken from
42:21
Speaker 1: 1957 and put it next to the one in your
42:25
Speaker 1: grocery cart tonight. Same bird, supposedly. But you're looking at
42:29
Speaker 1: two completely different animals. Today's chicken is broader, heavier, buried
42:35
Speaker 1: underneath breast meat. And it reached that size in a
42:38
Speaker 1: fraction of the time it used to take. It didn't evolve.
42:42
Speaker 1: We just kind of built it bigger. And researchers proved
42:46
Speaker 1: exactly that in a 2014 study in the journal, I guess,
42:50
Speaker 1: of poultry science. They raised three breeds of chicken, one
42:55
Speaker 1: from 1957, one from 1978, one from 2005 on the
42:59
Speaker 1: very same modern feed. The result, decades of breeding had
43:03
Speaker 1: grown the bird by more than 400 percent. Same food,
43:08
Speaker 1: four times the chicken. Now, to be clear, they're not
43:12
Speaker 1: pumping these birds full of hormones. Federal law has banned
43:15
Speaker 1: and banned added hormones and poultry for decades. And the
43:18
Speaker 1: FDA never approved them in the first place. And no,
43:20
Speaker 1: this isn't genetic engineering. It's selective breeding, generation after generation,
43:24
Speaker 1: choosing the fastest growing biggest birds until you get the
43:29
Speaker 1: animal sitting in your cart. But fast, it has a price.
43:34
Speaker 1: In 2024, a review of the science found these rapid
43:40
Speaker 1: growth birds suffer from more leg and heart problems, more
43:44
Speaker 1: trouble simply walking, more heat stress, higher death rates than
43:48
Speaker 1: the slower growing chickens. We designed an animal to grow
43:52
Speaker 1: so big so quickly that its own body can't even
43:55
Speaker 1: keep up. Sounds a lot like us right now, doesn't it?
43:59
Speaker 1: So when we say you are what you eat... Doesn't
44:02
Speaker 1: necessarily mean you're a chicken. It means you're a byproduct
44:06
Speaker 1: of the system that made that chicken chunky. We built
44:09
Speaker 1: a food economy obsessed with one thing, produce more, produce
44:13
Speaker 1: it faster, sell it cheaper. We ran the chicken through
44:16
Speaker 1: that machine, bred it, fed it, processed it for profit.
44:19
Speaker 1: And then we build that same machine for ourselves. Look
44:22
Speaker 1: at the modern chicken, engineered to grow fast, fed efficiently,
44:26
Speaker 1: processed for maximum profit. And look at us, surrounded by
44:30
Speaker 1: food built to be cheap, convenient, hyperpalatable, and nearly impossible
44:34
Speaker 1: to put down. Chicken didn't make us this way, but
44:37
Speaker 1: it might be the perfect mirror of what our food
44:40
Speaker 1: has become. How do we take control back of what's
44:44
Speaker 1: on our plate? Without falling for the fear or junk
44:47
Speaker 1: science or misleading labels, joining me now for Maha Monday,
44:52
Speaker 1: Air Force veteran and Maha advocate, Heather McIsaac. Heather, welcome back.
44:56
Speaker 1: You posted on social media about this chicken, and I
45:00
Speaker 1: saw it, and I was like, well, yeah, that kind
45:02
Speaker 1: of makes sense. Chickens are getting kind of big, and
45:04
Speaker 1: so are we, and I thought it was an interesting parallel.
45:06
Speaker 1: Talk about the chicken and what it means to the
45:08
Speaker 1: way we eat today.
45:11
Speaker 9: Well, you know, at some point, the people that we've
45:13
Speaker 9: entrusted with feeding us and providing us food, our farmers,
45:17
Speaker 9: our ranchers, and then the ones that process it, decided
45:21
Speaker 9: that aesthetics became more important than health.
45:25
Speaker 5: And it's not even just in poultry. This is in.
45:27
Speaker 9: Other avenues of meat and food. I mean, there's been
45:34
Speaker 9: proven that producers of salmon, for example, that's pink, will
45:39
Speaker 9: add a pink dye to their waters that they are
45:41
Speaker 9: farmed in. Or they will add a dye to their
45:44
Speaker 9: food so once the salmon eats it, its flesh gets
45:48
Speaker 9: a pink tone to it.
45:50
Speaker 5: And so a lot of.
45:51
Speaker 9: These times our food is being engineered to look palatable,
45:55
Speaker 9: but it's starts to lose its nutrition and its density
45:59
Speaker 9: and everything that it's supposed to provide for us. So
46:02
Speaker 9: when you go and you look at a big, beautiful tomato, yeah,
46:05
Speaker 9: it may look great, but because of the fact that
46:07
Speaker 9: it's either been designed or bred or genetically modified to
46:12
Speaker 9: look a certain way, oftentimes what you are now lacking
46:15
Speaker 9: is the nutrient density. If you look at an ugly
46:18
Speaker 9: heirloom tomato that was grown organically, it may not be
46:21
Speaker 9: very pleasing to the eye, but it will have so
46:24
Speaker 9: much more of the various vitamins and things that we're
46:29
Speaker 9: seeking out of a tomato than one that looks beautiful.
46:33
Speaker 9: And so at some point, you know, we need to
46:35
Speaker 9: look at these producers. We need to look at the
46:37
Speaker 9: people that are making our food that we, again, entrust
46:40
Speaker 9: and rely on. And kind of take it back a
46:44
Speaker 9: little bit. The unfortunate thing is there's not a lot
46:46
Speaker 9: of chicken that you're going to find on the shelves,
46:49
Speaker 9: whether it be organic or not, that is not going
46:52
Speaker 9: to be saline injected. Meaning even the most organic and,
46:57
Speaker 9: you know, free range chickens are going to have some
46:59
Speaker 9: sort of saline pumped into it because we have become
47:02
Speaker 9: used to that aesthetic. But the great thing is, is
47:06
Speaker 9: I am hopeful because if we look at other areas
47:09
Speaker 9: of Baja that have been consumer driven, not government mandated changes,
47:14
Speaker 9: Target removing dyes, Walmart removing various preservatives from their better
47:19
Speaker 9: goods line themselves. And so I hope that as people
47:24
Speaker 9: get more educated on this topic and they start to
47:26
Speaker 9: put the pressure on, these various producers will decide that
47:30
Speaker 9: it's not about aesthetics, but it's about nutrient density in
47:34
Speaker 9: our foods. And the only way that changes is that
47:37
Speaker 9: we demand it. Now, if you want to find chickens
47:40
Speaker 9: that aren't going to be pumped full of this saline,
47:43
Speaker 9: and you can see it on the packaging, quite frankly,
47:45
Speaker 9: it's not necessarily a secret.
47:47
Speaker 5: It's just most people don't look for it.
47:49
Speaker 9: But most packages of chicken will say somewhere on there
47:53
Speaker 9: that it's injected with saline and to an extent. And
47:57
Speaker 9: so they're not hiding it from us, but they're not
47:59
Speaker 9: making it incredibly visible.
48:01
Speaker 5: Your best bet, if you.
48:02
Speaker 9: Want to find a chicken, that's not going to have
48:04
Speaker 9: all of that different stuff pumped into it and fed
48:07
Speaker 9: garbage is again, to look for a local butcher shop,
48:11
Speaker 9: a local grocer who either gets it from a local
48:15
Speaker 9: source themselves, or can at least, you know, give you
48:18
Speaker 9: some direction of where you can find it.
48:21
Speaker 1: Yeah. You know, that's a great point. And, and, you know,
48:23
Speaker 1: people will argue, well, with food costs being what they are,
48:26
Speaker 1: who can go to their local chicken producer or local
48:30
Speaker 1: butcher or local farmer, because it costs more money. I
48:33
Speaker 1: think the answer to that is the regulation environment. I
48:36
Speaker 1: think we can, just like we did with beef recently,
48:38
Speaker 1: I think we can allow for producers of this more
48:42
Speaker 1: natural chicken to produce it for human consumption more cheaply,
48:45
Speaker 1: and they won't have to spend as much money to
48:47
Speaker 1: get you the whole stuff. And I think that's really
48:48
Speaker 1: what Maha is all about, Heather. I think it's about
48:51
Speaker 1: being aware that this commercial food industry, even having cheap food,
48:54
Speaker 1: I mean, even, you know, then that's really what it is.
48:56
Speaker 1: Let's make sure it's as cheap as possible and as
48:59
Speaker 1: mass produced as possible so everybody can get it, but
49:01
Speaker 1: it's making everybody sick. The nutrition isn't there, like you mentioned.
49:04
Speaker 1: The quality isn't there, like you mentioned. It's just, It's
49:07
Speaker 1: just not good for us. And it's really not about
49:09
Speaker 1: feeding us. It's about, it's nutrition. And that's what it's lacking.
49:13
Speaker 1: It's not just quantity. It's the quality that we have
49:15
Speaker 1: an issue with.
49:16
Speaker 9: Right. And I just, again, want to remind people, this
49:19
Speaker 9: isn't just chicken. this is your salmon. This is even
49:21
Speaker 9: some of your beef products.
49:22
Speaker 1: No, it's everything, yeah.
49:23
Speaker 9: That get injected to make them look more palatable as
49:26
Speaker 9: they're sitting raw in a freezer case.
49:29
Speaker 5: This is also your vegetables. This is your fruit.
49:32
Speaker 9: Whenever you go to the grocery stores and they're built
49:34
Speaker 9: in some beautiful pyramid and they all look exceptional, Fruit's
49:38
Speaker 9: not supposed to be like that. Vegetables are not supposed
49:41
Speaker 9: to be like that. And there's a reason that they
49:43
Speaker 9: have been produced. And again, it's going to affect your
49:46
Speaker 9: nutrient density at the end.
49:48
Speaker 5: So if you want to find a.
49:49
Speaker 9: Safer place for vegetables and fruit, a local farmer's market
49:53
Speaker 9: is going to be your best bet to avoid those
49:56
Speaker 9: issues as well.
49:57
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, a local farmer's market that actually sells local
49:59
Speaker 1: farmed goods, not just the same stuff they sell at
50:01
Speaker 1: your grocery store sold at a farmer's market for more money.
50:04
Speaker 1: I've seen that, too. You've got to look at the
50:06
Speaker 1: boxes and ask them, do you actually grow your stuff?
50:08
Speaker 1: Where do you get your stuff from? So you've got
50:09
Speaker 1: to be responsible, too. If you're going to go to
50:11
Speaker 1: the effort to go to a farmer's market, make sure
50:12
Speaker 1: they're actually producing the stuff that you're buying. Heather, great advice,
50:15
Speaker 1: as always, helping America get healthy again. It's important. We've
50:19
Speaker 1: got to be aware of this stuff, and awareness is
50:20
Speaker 1: where it starts. Heather, thank you for being here, as always.
50:22
Speaker 1: Happy Maha Monday.
50:24
Speaker 5: Thank you for having me. Happy Maha Monday.
50:29
Speaker 1: That's our show for tonight. Make sure you join us tomorrow.
50:31
Speaker 1: We're going to be looking at a story with Hasan Piker.
50:34
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50:38
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50:41
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50:47
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50:51
Speaker 1: We'll see you tomorrow, same time, same place. And until then,
50:54
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