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Project Hail Mary Review - Are Major Blockbusters Back & Is Ryan Gosling Always at the Center? · Film Curious

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This is a movie that could have worked with him, too.
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He’s great.
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Why am I blanking on his name, Jesus.
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Channing Tatum?
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Yeah, I could see Channing Tatum in this movie, actually.
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Really easily.
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I don't think I would enjoy it nearly as much.
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I'll be honest, I don't know.
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It'd still be fun.
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Yeah, I think it actually...
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I don’t know about the emotional punches.
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Funnier, I think.
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Yeah, yeah, it would be a straight up comedy.
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Hello all you film lovers, casual theater goers,
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at home movie watchers and streaming scrollers out there!
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You're listening to Film Curious, the podcast that invites you
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to let your intrigue guide you and explore great films across genres and time.
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At least that's what I'll be doing.
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I'm Ashley Bernhardt, and this episode I'm joined by my good friend
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Pete Tedone to dive into a fairly new release.
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You may have heard of it. Project Hail Mary.
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This heart pounding and heartwarming film may be Amazon MGM Studios most ambitious
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project yet, being its first major blockbuster
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with a budget of $248 million.
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Its story is based on another book by the same guy who wrote The Martian,
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Andy Weir, as well as the same screenwriter, Drew Goddard.
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It's directed by the duo brought you the beloved Sony
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animated Spider-Verse movies Phil Lord and Chris Miller.
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The film, starring Ryan Gosling and Sandra Huller, follows a scientist
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who wakes up alone on a spaceship with no recollection of how he got there.
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As his memory returns, he uncovers a mission
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to stop a mysterious substance from killing Earth's sun,
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and an unexpected friendship
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may be the key to saving the planet from an eternal ice age.
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So join us as we explore the film Project Hail Mary.
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I'd like to introduce my good friend, cousin through marriage, and one of the
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most knowledgeable and insightful people I personally know when it comes to film.
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If he will be so kind to me, he will hopefully be on this show often.
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You'll see him pop up from time to time.
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I have Pete Tedone here.
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Pete will probably not plug himself, so I will.
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If he will allow me to compliment, compliment
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him. He is an immensely talented photographer.
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I think he has some of the best eye for composition.
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I've seen.
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And he claims it's easy.
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And I have words for you.
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No, sir. It is not.
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It's not easy.
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You are very good at it.
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I when I see your, short films, they are incredible.
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So when he has the opportunity.
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To be a filmmaker, it's an incredible, podcaster.
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So he. Hosts a delightfully entertaining.
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Theme park podcast. But yet he is still broken.
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So go out there.
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I think if you're not following his work, look him up. He.
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It's definitely worth your time with all that said.
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You're welcome. With all that said.
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Pete. Hi.
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How's the morning treating you?
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And anything you like to say to the folks out there.
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About yourself or correct any.
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Inaccuracies that I may have?
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I did nothing to say about myself.
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No, you were not on the, Yeah. No.
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Nothing to say on that end, but thank you.
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Yeah. I'm excited to be here.
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I'm happy you finally, you know, that you're doing this and that.
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I'm here to to chat with you about a couple of things today, and.
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Yeah, let's get to it.
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Yeah.
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So we're going to be doing Project Hail Mary, and that will be what we start with.
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I mean, we'll just be honest with you behind the scenes sort of thing.
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We're probably we're recording project Hail Mary and the drama.
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At the same time.
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So, they'll most likely be separated,
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episode wise, but, they might leak.
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Into each other if you've noticed that. So just.
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Listen to both episodes. Watch both episodes.
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I feel like we're getting back on track, where every year
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there is a pretty big summer blockbuster movie,
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and it
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it's feeling more and more, common again, which is nice because there was,
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you know, the everything with Covid
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and, how it affected theater going.
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You know, we're still feeling it really.
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And, it's now so I don't I couldn't tell you what it was
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last year or the year before, but it, it feels like once or twice a year
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everyone is at the movies, whether it be, you know, when it was Barb
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being Oppenheimer or something.
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And apparently Gosling could be at the center of a lot of this.
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It's it's it's just starting to feel like more common for everyone.
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Went to go see this movie again,
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not as common as it used to be, like in the,
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you know, the heydays of like summer movies in the 90s and stuff like that.
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But it it feels like it's coming back a little bit.
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So, it's cool, it's good.
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You know?
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Yeah.
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I watched, it had a full theater.
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It was, was packed out and I think it was a Wednesday night
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when we ended up actually going to see it.
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And it was fun. The crowd. Reactions.
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And that movie definitely works for crowd reactions,
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where you're not worried if you're going to miss something or someone's going to.
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And it wasn't like they were distracting reactions.
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I've noticed that too, is like coming back to the movies
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and we've been going all through until, you know, Covid, let us we would be.
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The only people in the theater. Yeah.
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But now it seems that, movie etiquette.
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I've noticed is coming back where, like, there's not, like, side not for, you.
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Know, I mean, maybe this was like a special showing of Project
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Hail Mary that I.
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Usually, I mean, Hail Mary was fine.
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I also usually go at the most inopportune times for other people to go on purpose.
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You know, I'll go. Yeah.
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To the 1030 show on Sunday night,
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you know, which when you're talking about a movie
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that's nearly two hours and 40 minutes and you got to say 30 minutes of nonsense,
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that you have to sit through, free movie that you're talking about
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getting back home at 2 a.m. for me.
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That's if I got to wake up at seven the next day.
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Most people avoid those later shows.
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So generally that happens.
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But how it was filmed, I do remember that.
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Yeah.
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And yeah, I don't remember anyone really chattering about the movie.
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Doesn't give you a whole lot of moments of pause.
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No. Which is interesting for.
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A two hour movie. Yeah. 47 minute runtime.
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That it doesn't, so
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I guess, you mentioned Gosling.
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Actually, I do.
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Want to grab on that, Ryan Gosling.
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I thought it was a really great performance, actually, I think he did
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carry it.
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I mean, he has to carry a huge chunk of the movie because of his, you know,
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I guess he's one.
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Well, yeah, he you got to get into small.
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He's ugly. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
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I mean, here's, I guess spoiler warning, which I think
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at this point it's, the, the rocks out of the bag.
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But yeah, yeah, he,
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he has to interact with the rock alien for most of the film.
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He's not so. Rock. Thank goodness.
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Just Rocky.
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Yeah.
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There was a lot of.
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I'm so off track, I have.
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I had noticed there was a bunch of film.
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References and homages.
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In in Project Hail Mary.
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Yeah, yeah.
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No, no, no. I'm sorry. Go ahead.
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No. Okay. Well, I I'll.
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Finish my Ryan Gosling thought before we, we jump into that.
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Because I realize I'm off track.
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But I was thinking about it and how you mentioned like, oh,
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the last big film, you know, was a Gosling was in the film, Gosling.
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De Gosling.
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We only had Ryan.
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Yeah. And it kind of made me think that.
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I think Ryan Gosling is proving that he puts butts in seats.
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Because I think the fall guy actually performed pretty well,
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too, with Emily Blunt.
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That comedy.
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That I was actually just
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thinking of that movie, and I could not remember if it made a lot.
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I'm going to look it up right now because,
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it didn't.
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It didn't.
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It didn't do banger.
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No, not at all.
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Actually, it only approximated about 181 million
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against like a buck 40 of a million, $1 million production.
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But the thing is, the reason I remember is that the only reason that I remember
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the box office thing was people use that as like,
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oh, well, you know, he's not really, you know, a star.
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And I don't think it really has anything to do with that.
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It's like the movie was good.
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People liked it, but it didn't like
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it wasn't overly unique.
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I guess maybe to like, an audience
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who was wondering, am I going to go spend
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three and a half, you know, three hours of my day
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and a lot of money to go to the theater? You know, that
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it's just a specific
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type of movie that that'll work for that every now and then.
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And I don't know if it's just on purpose for Jesus.
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The timing of this movie coming out so close to, you know, a couple weeks
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later, we're launching out to the moon for the first time in over 30 years.
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You got to think that that might be a marketing thing.
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I was just like, can you time that was that a I because I
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really didn't know until two weeks ago that that was happening.
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This you know, this past week.
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And, so I was wondering like, oh, dude, was that on purpose?
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But yeah, I mean, it's going to get tested again
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because in two years he'll be leading Starfighter,
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new Star Wars film and
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does that matter?
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Like, does it matter who's in the lead role for that.
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In a Star Wars film?
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I don't know though. But yeah, I would.
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Does it have the no.
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One and I don't know if it's no.
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One or was it just bad receive all of solo.
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Solo was it was a tough sell for people because everyone is so stuck in.
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Well, it's gotta be Harrison Ford.
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How come you pay for it?
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And, there was, you know, the mix up,
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the changing of directors, which, ironically, was Lord Miller,
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you know, originally for the or the directors stuff for solo.
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Yeah.
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And they were then, you know, Ron Howard came in and did whatever
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the second half of that or last third of that filming took place.
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But yeah, now you're going to have, Gosling leaving one out.
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But, you know, you have you're going to be able
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to save from the director of Deadpool and Wolverine, you know,
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and stuff like that, that that will help a lot more people be like,
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I know that person, that director, and I know Ryan Gosling.
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And it'll I mean, I guess a lot of it will also depend upon
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what people react to with Mando and Grogu, that there's so many factors
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that go into whether or not someone goes to the movies that I.
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I don't think that there's
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I think it's very hard to say that there's like that Tom cruise
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factor of the 80s and 90s when like if the man was in the movie,
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most of the time, people went, it didn't matter.
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I don't know how many people exist like that anymore.
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You know, it's not Brad Pitt anymore.
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I don't think it ever really was.
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But Gosling, this is a huge,
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you know, financially, you know, for a poll, this is a huge win.
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And when you combine it with Barbie, you know, he's
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sort of got to where he could say,
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you know, in la la la la land for its,
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you know, for its budget made a shit ton of money.
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So yeah, there's a, you know, there's a lot of different factors into that. But
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yeah I guess so that.
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Yeah.
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Yeah I mean even this isn't who knows what the actual.
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I would have to look it up the,
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how. Well, the gray man did, which is, you know, it was,
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it was a streaming on Netflix or, you know,
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I didn't want to know, to be honest,
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I think a lot of people did, because it's getting a second one.
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So, I don't know.
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I don't know that streaming is, is different than a, than a box.
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Streaming is like I mean, this is like just my I don't.
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Know how they're even. Calculating.
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Jason Momoa has been in like a hundred films and they're all on streaming
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and he's in like 17 different TV shows, Apple TV shows.
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I don't know any of them.
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Can't say I've watched them.
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But I'm very happy that he's as all over the place as he could possibly be.
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Yeah, because you don't.
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The Gray man doesn't have numbers.
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Right.
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I, I did not hear great things about that.
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I don't.
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I. Particularly like the Russos,
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outside of, like, a couple of Avengers movies.
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So that just, you know, You mentioned.
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Yeah, we can drop it.
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I yeah. I'm looking at it. I'm like.
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I'm like. There's so many people in here.
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It's like a Dreamworks animated film
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where they just get every one possible to voice anything.
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Yeah.
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That's what this feels like.
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That is.
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Sidetrack aside.
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We could go on and on and on and film tangents and.
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Yeah. So back to Project Hail Mary. Yes.
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And then talking about, you know, box office numbers, production.
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It was 200 and I wrote this down and I'm going to get the number 248 million.
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And so was Amazon, MGM Studios first major,
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blockbuster that they, they put money into, like real money.
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But it also makes me a little curious.
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Because I wonder.
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I mean, I looked into, the production of it
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and the set design and, a lot of it is analog.
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Rocky is house. Puppetry house. Yeah.
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I guess an even half is like, puppetry, an animatronic they used at times.
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And then they've got the CGI aspect of him, too.
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So, I mean, yeah, he's, he has a huge rig.
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The, the puppeteering is, the same guy
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who voices him who is, James or he's.
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Yeah.
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So I mean, yeah, I guess you
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have that huge and the set is all like analog.
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Greg, why am I blanking on here?
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Greg Frazier, the cinematographer was very adamant about he needed that cockpit
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that they made to be easily
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taken apart so that he could film from every angle.
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Yeah. And get the shot that he wanted.
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So that was, I'll put that in the show notes is a really interesting video
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that, they did was like, is it Adam?
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Is it Savage? Who's the guy.
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Who does the like, debunks the,
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oh, theories or, Adam Savage?
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Yeah, I follow him on YouTube.
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I like that aspect of it.
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Oh, I have the link I'll put.
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In the show notes, but it's a very interesting.
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He was talking to, the set designer and everything.
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Yeah, it's it's Adam Savage, all right.
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So it's it was intense what they had to do.
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And like, every, every button could light up with a different LED.
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It was impressive.
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So thinking about it, I go, okay. Yeah.
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I mean, I guess that requires a pretty huge budget
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in addition to all of the CGI space scenes.
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That they then have to do. Yeah.
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So there's that. But then.
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I look up, you know, Dune, In comparison
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and they made Dune for 190.
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Million.
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So the difference in, in the production
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kind of, is curious to me.
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Yeah.
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I mean, it's sometimes I think no matter what, it's always expensive.
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I think that there's a lot more rigging
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and studio work and more hands on.
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I don't know, maybe it's something like that.
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You know, the crazy part of it,
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as a viewer, I don't give us, like, okay, like for it.
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Was it good?
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You know, it's good. Yeah.
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It's it's never like Dune looks great.
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I know people there.
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You get some people now like,
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oh the Brown movie gets takes place that goddamn desert.
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It's Yeah.
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That's it's there's this, there's.
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This like over compensation on some, some commentaries
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nowadays where it's like, oh, movies aren't colorful.
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I, there's no country for old men.
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It doesn't need to be like.
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It has to be what that film needs to look like.
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So I never really understood that that whole thing that people have,
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obsessively about that.
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But, yeah, it's it's, hand making stuff
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is expensive, you know, it's expensive doing CGI.
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And there are aspects of Dune you could not build
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and maybe nowadays or, you know, you could,
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but it would be a lot of model work and it wouldn't look the same.
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And all this other stuff, and it would probably be maybe
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at the end of the day, more expensive because of the time I did
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and the amount of if something breaks, you have to rebuild this
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entire model or, you know, rebuild this entire contraption.
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And even Dune uses, you know, a lot of models and stuff,
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or they just build, you know, the, the copter thing.
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Yeah.
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But yeah, movies are expensive.
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It's a nightmare.
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Absolute nightmare.
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But, you know, it's when.
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You see it work, you know, this is making money.
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You're like, oh, thank God.
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And then you look into how they did it and you're like, it was mainly manual.
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It was people actually making these things, designing these things.
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Shooting it with the actor, being able to interact
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with the thing that you think is that's always got to be helpful.
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Yeah.
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There's there's a kind of heartbreaking clip, of Ian McKellen.
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And I'll put in big quotes on set for, The Hobbit,
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where he is acting alone
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at a table where they're supposed to be, you know, Bilbo
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and all the dwarves, and he gets he,
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like, has a bit of an emotional breakdown because he's depressed.
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Because he was.
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He says he's like, this is not what I do.
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It's like, I, I, I like performing with people.
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And he's, you know, literally on a green screen
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table and everything by himself.
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So, yeah, I mean, it's, it's it can mean everything for the performer,
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you know, to actually be able to, to bounce
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off of people and in live time and seeing, you know, for Gosling's
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character, Grace, to see Rocky and react to him in real time.
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If, you know, Ortiz decides to do something with the movements of that
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puppet in the moment, like an actual actor would get to do on the moment,
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the set, you know, it's a it's got to be just night
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and day, for, for dealing with it, for, for some people.
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Yeah.
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Well, yeah, I'm
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hoping it's the movies are going kind of back the other way where we.
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Everything was CGI for a little bit, and now it's like, no, we need we need both.
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And you know, it's now it's a, an added value doing the, the CGI to it.
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But we'll see what happens.
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I mean, you. Can't really give.
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Yeah Hollywood a whole lot.
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I also I don't think that either one of them is a guarantee for anything.
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I, I don't think really ultimately it matters because
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just playing movies that are very CG,
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you know, reliant and they don't or they and they make a shitload of money.
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I mean, avatar is extremely CGI, and it's still,
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without anyone kind of noticing.
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Makes $1 billion every time another one comes out, which is wild.
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But that that is what happens.
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And then, you know, smaller crafted movies sometimes how hard it sells
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to people because they want this, you know,
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the see, one of the the greatest things that Project Hail Mary have for it
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in promoting it was it's very attractive visually.
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You know, there's there's a lot of scenes where you can point and go like,
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that's a hell of a poster. That's a hell of a poster.
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You know, there's a lot of stuff like that.
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Remember gravity, you know, had that a lot less flashy visually,
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but it had this image that was able to
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you knew you knew what that movie was going to be like.
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You know, you were going to see gravity because space is scary shit,
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and you're going to see Hail Mary because it was this,
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oh, I remember The Martian.
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That was fun. This seems like that.
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And Ryan Gosling looks like he's having a great time and,
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you know, space adventure and it's fun.
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And like, it's a lot of good hooks to get into people.
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It's every Andy Weir has that.
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You need two for two.
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You know, between The Martian and this, I you know, I can't
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it's incredible.
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Like how similar and how different both of those films are.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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You know, I mean they kind of it's you know, how safdies,
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you know, now, now that they've separated also
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one of the big critiques of, you know, I hear, you know, on Mardi Supreme
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and I agree with it, is it's another frantic white guy
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who's a piece of shit that we maybe root for at the end and maybe don't.
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And you could look at this as, like, Lost Man in space,
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and it's by the same writer and all that, and it has.
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And by the way, he's charming as hell and very funny.
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And it has a lot of the same elements,
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but that is kind of where it ends, you know, the,
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the whole actions within the film are very different.
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And I think that actually Lord
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Miller were aware of that, and I had never read the book.
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So actually, I wonder if it's in the book like that.
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But the way that the movie is presented to you,
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where you're jumping back and forth in time,
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it was not.
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That's something The Martian doesn't do, you know?
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So right off the bat, you're out there, you're in space.
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You starting off right, you know, right off the bat
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figuring out what's going on.
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You don't know what's going on.
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So it was a good way of separating those two things.
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So it didn't feel overly familiar to a viewer possibly.
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You know, The Martian. So.
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So how old is The Martian at this point?
22:39
Does anyone, you know really remember 2015, 2015?
22:43
So, you know, 11 years ago.
22:44
So that's crazy to say. Yeah.
22:47
Yeah. Yeah.
22:49
So I guess to,
22:51
I mean, like
22:52
we can on so many different tangent, but I'll touch on the image thing.
22:57
I noticed that you noticed actually, I had noticed it in theaters,
23:01
but I didn't want to, like, interrupt and do anything loud.
23:07
And I was like, oh, you know, my my spouse.
23:10
Will realize it.
23:11
I'm sure he'll realize it.
23:12
And he.
23:15
When he's first, communicating with Rocky, it's through, like the music.
23:21
It's like a musicality, almost language, sound language.
23:24
And it's it's the close encounters.
23:26
Of the the third kind.
23:28
When they interact with the aliens, it's the.
23:32
Same.
23:33
Yeah, yeah.
23:34
So there's that.
23:35
And then obviously Rocky himself.
23:37
Is a film reference and.
23:40
Rocky's made his name's Adrian.
23:42
And so I mean they're fun.
23:45
It's fun things.
23:48
Yeah I was fine usually, you know.
23:50
Hey do you remember this movie stuff?
23:52
It's not something I'm a big fan of, but it's sit this one.
23:56
And the bigger thing for me was the Close Encounters
24:01
nod is a
24:06
you can look at it as an early reveal for where that movie's going to go.
24:09
In the end.
24:11
Because, I mean, can we can we talk about it's okay.
24:16
Right. But everyone a movie by now, right?
24:18
And also we're I think I.
24:20
Get it the, the spoiler tag and I'll make sure that it's, it's there.
24:24
So you know spoilers also for Close Encounters,
24:27
which is, you know, over 45 years old, almost 50 years old.
24:31
Yeah.
24:33
Healy, you know, Dreyfuss in that film,
24:35
Liza's family, you don't think about it at the time.
24:39
Right?
24:40
But Richard Dreyfuss, after kissing another woman,
24:44
like, leaves his wife and kids to go live with the aliens for.
24:49
We don't know if he ever comes back or anything like that.
24:52
We have no idea.
24:53
And in this crossing,
24:56
Binks, that same choice where he does not come back to Earth,
25:00
he could.
25:01
I mean, he could, but he is.
25:02
I mean, the idea is he's also doing it to save,
25:06
Rocky.
25:08
But yeah, they they wound up actually making the same choice also.
25:12
Yeah.
25:13
So I think while it's a nod, it was it's
25:16
also a little bit of a tip of the hat for if,
25:20
if you pay attention enough, you're like, oh, these guys are true.
25:23
They have the same finish.
25:25
Yeah. Yeah.
25:27
I didn't think about you know what?
25:28
You don't even think about that in Close Encounters.
25:30
Like, yeah, he just leaves. Oh, no.
25:32
I mean, his whole his whole life is miserable, right?
25:36
But, you know.
25:39
I'm not saying, like, abandon
25:40
your children, but.
25:43
I don't see any reason for him to stick around either.
25:46
He in that thing, that's always something that Spielberg says.
25:50
If I would have made that movie as an older person,
25:54
I don't know if I make the same movie
25:56
because I would have been a lot more conscious of that decision.
25:59
And I don't know if I would have agreed with it at the time.
26:03
But for that character in that time, yeah, he's going
26:08
right.
26:10
And, and so does Gosling.
26:12
And what's also funny is I remember when you, one of the big things about
26:17
when they wanted to do, you know, Spielberg wanted to go back
26:19
and touch up some scenes after the film was that was a success there.
26:23
Like the production company was like, all right, the studio was like, all right,
26:26
but you got to show us the inside of the ship.
26:29
And for Spielberg, it was like you.
26:31
That gives the whole goddamn ending out, because instead of wondering
26:35
and having that mystery about what it is, I'm going to show you,
26:38
and in front of a camera, you do, right?
26:43
You see the planet that that Gosling is on,
26:47
but you don't because he's living in a simulation of that.
26:50
So it's a real fun way of swerving around that and
26:55
and not getting into that, that issue of showing too much, you know.
27:01
Yeah, I think the that actually.
27:03
Was one of the.
27:05
The sticking points for me that I'm like, maybe it is, it explains it in the novel.
27:09
Maybe there's, deeper character development of of grace.
27:15
I know that he's.
27:17
You know.
27:18
It's we have an ex-girlfriend that he's not with anymore.
27:21
He doesn't have friends or family. Is like the line.
27:24
It's kind of almost like a throwaway line of like, you don't mean anything,
27:28
and then we're supposed to.
27:30
Okay, then make the the jump. That
27:33
he wants.
27:34
No human. Connection. Ever.
27:37
And, you know, is is not going to come back to Earth
27:41
after you couldn't get him to leave Earth.
27:44
Not that I, you know, it's there's enough storytelling
27:48
to get us to the point of, like, okay, he had to be brave.
27:52
Learn.
27:54
Just like, crave for. Yeah, it's
27:58
not. I went with that way too quickly.
28:02
I just trust that he's going.
28:05
Makes you be.
28:06
Brave. Or.
28:10
Okay.
28:11
But, you know.
28:16
Oh, man.
28:16
I'm. I'm so off track.
28:18
No. So you were saying, you know, that.
28:20
Oh, that he would leave, right?
28:23
Well, I mean, we we know now that he gets to a certain point where.
28:26
His journey with Rocky kind of gives him connection and gives.
28:30
Him a reason to, fight for something, you know, to.
28:35
Exist, to stay.
28:37
But I don't know if I believe that, you know, he's never.
28:41
I mean, yes, I guess.
28:42
At this point he woke up, however many years later, he doesn't.
28:45
Really know what's happening back on Earth, I guess.
28:47
Why would you go back to. A planet. That might.
28:49
You know, it looked like at the end.
28:51
With, with Sandra Haller that it's.
28:53
Yeah, she's in the ice cave. Yeah.
28:55
And something you're supposed to take it that like she's not trolling
28:59
around the North Pole.
29:00
She's like off the coast of in a deep freeze, you know, or something.
29:04
Yeah. Yeah.
29:06
Which means a lot of people have that.
29:07
But, but the thing is, though, yes, I agree with you.
29:10
They don't.
29:11
They don't give me.
29:13
I didn't feel like this is a guy who, at his
29:17
if the opportunity arose, he was like, yeah, I'm never going to go back to Earth.
29:20
But they did get around that because he can't really get back
29:25
because it's it was either let you know Rocky die from essentially
29:30
like the human equivalent of radiation poisoning and carbon
29:34
dioxide poisoning.
29:37
And because of that, it's just the going back and forth.
29:41
He wouldn't physically make the trip.
29:43
So they while they give him the choice,
29:48
he makes the choice based out of affection and out of friendship.
29:53
So I do think they stay skate around that as well.
30:00
The movie does a really good job of skating around things.
30:03
Just getting it to say it was kind of the theme, a bit of like, yeah,
30:07
oh, happy, happy dance, dance like dude. Yeah.
30:09
But you know,
30:10
but right now I think, I think that's, I think that's why people reacted to it.
30:14
So much because Jesus Christ kind of need a fucking w when you look at it
30:19
until like just without an asterisk w
30:24
right now, because it's just not good.
30:27
No one's having a good time unless you're an awful person. So.
30:32
So I think that's a big part of it.
30:35
Like what I do, I do have a sticking point with the movies are actually.
30:39
So, to kind of go on, you know, you had one.
30:42
So I did have one.
30:44
I, there was a maybe one too many of
30:47
and then this went wrong, moments where
30:53
it just was like, okay, all right.
30:54
Can we can we wrap it up a little bit near it near the end?
30:58
And one of them, though, was very odd to me because I watch this.
31:03
This movie starts with an unconscious waking up, Gosling being force fed food
31:10
and this and that, which was very funny, if you remember, back in the old days
31:13
of the internet, the Ryan Gosling will eat his cereal bit
31:18
that, do you remember that?
31:20
I don't I'm going to. Have to look it up and I'm going.
31:22
Okay, so there.
31:23
Was this whole saying that there was this guy I forget
31:27
because he passed, because he wound up getting cancer or something like that.
31:30
There was this this cat who made a series of videos of him in front of a TV
31:36
was a Ryan Gosling movie playing and him trying to feed him cereal.
31:42
It sounds vaguely familiar.
31:43
And in the scene it would always be Ryan Gosling,
31:46
like moving his head away, like quickly or something like that.
31:49
And it was, you know, Gosling won't eat his cereal.
31:52
And actually, I remember after the guy passed, Gosling made a video of him
31:57
eating a cereal, as,
32:00
like a nod to, you know, as a, a little tribute to him.
32:03
So anyways, we start off with that, and there's this ship
32:07
I sort of, you know, voice that interacts with him.
32:10
And the minute he sits down in his seat, he it's like pilot initiated,
32:15
you know, all this stuff.
32:18
But then
32:18
later in the movie, when the ship is, like,
32:22
going to rip itself apart,
32:25
he has to manually slip a switch
32:29
together.
32:29
And since he can't do something else, it's like, why do you have to do this?
32:34
Like, why isn't the ship just being, like, initiated and that's it?
32:39
And not letting itself almost get destroyed?
32:42
But that's movies, right?
32:44
You just have, you know, you have those moments happening.
32:46
You like movies. Right.
32:49
I mean, I assume.
32:51
Yeah. Yeah, I just do it.
32:52
There are moments like that and I'm like, we are adapting this from a novel.
32:56
And not to not that that's like a full excuse, but it,
33:00
you know, it's like, okay, if you've got certain questions about,
33:03
you know, how he's translating the language,
33:05
if he's, you know, translating it through Rocky's.
33:08
Sounds and why is it why.
33:10
Every time is it Rocky.
33:12
Sounds, you know, being produced when he's.
33:15
You know, to translate and that that could drive.
33:18
I was like, all right, just let it go.
33:20
Just let. It go.
33:21
Like, that's don't think about it.
33:23
They're not going to put it in chime.
33:25
Sounds like when over dialog like that's not
33:29
how film works to make a nice experience for you right.
33:33
So there's like turn your brain off.
33:36
At least for this movie.
33:37
It was like, don't worry about it.
33:40
The sci fi aspect.
33:42
Yeah. The gritty. Of it.
33:44
And yeah, just go with it.
33:45
Like they also they explain it, you know, they explain that,
33:48
you know, he's worked on this now translator which is essentially,
33:52
you know, we we don't need to see the middle ground of that.
33:55
No. You know, it's it's funny this came up yesterday.
33:59
Hunt for Red October had had one of the all time great.
34:03
Like, don't worry about that.
34:05
Where you're on this Russian submarine
34:07
and everyone in the first couple of scenes is speaking Russian.
34:12
But then when you go to Sean Connery's cabin and he's only
34:16
with one other officer, Connery starts reading a book.
34:20
I think there's a book of poetry, and the camera goes in real tight,
34:24
all the way close up, like onto his mouth.
34:27
And then he starts speaking English,
34:31
and then the camera backs up and everyone
34:33
except for Sam, you know, who actually still speaks in a Russian accent?
34:36
Everyone just speaks in their regular voice.
34:40
But you know that they're speaking Russian to each other.
34:44
Right?
34:44
It's like it's, you know, you the the towel of like, okay.
34:48
Yeah.
34:48
You know, it's for your brain to be like, this is what's happening now.
34:51
We're going to get an easier viewing experience.
34:54
They had to do that in two because technically, every time he spoke
34:59
to anyone, there's like a half hour of time in between every sentence.
35:04
They let you know that.
35:06
And then the rest of the film is cut as if it's me and you talking right now.
35:10
Yeah, I mean, it's it's.
35:12
That sort of thing of like if I basically said to myself, because,
35:16
you know, I have a nagging brain.
35:17
Sometimes when it comes to like, it's not.
35:20
That I thought I, I'm not trying to find loopholes.
35:22
I'm definitely not. That kind of person.
35:24
I just was like, have all these questions about the alien and about I was like.
35:30
So I guess they have a very similar culture to Earth.
35:33
Then if,
35:34
you know, we're getting to the point of really talking and understanding
35:38
each other.
35:38
And I was like, don't worry about that.
35:41
Like if you care about about that, maybe read the novel and see if it like,
35:45
addresses gets a little bit more into the the detail of it.
35:48
But yeah, it's like, that's not the purpose of the movie.
35:52
I'm going to guess. And say it does not.
35:54
It don't. You don't think so? I'll tell. It.
35:55
No, I don't think so. Because I think we right.
35:58
Like a movie.
36:01
I think that's
36:02
why his books have been so far, so successful in this adaptation
36:06
is because it's it's written in a cinematic fashion.
36:10
It's, you know, it really works, towards getting that because
36:15
it I don't think it concerns itself with that.
36:18
You know, it's it's interesting how Project Camilleri
36:22
simultaneously like hard sci fi in some of the explanations
36:26
and how this works and that works, and then in other aspects where it's
36:31
more fantastical,
36:34
it gives you just enough that you're like,
36:38
And then that's it.
36:40
And then you just don't worry about that shit
36:42
because it doesn't matter how the fuck they communicate,
36:46
it matters that you care about what they're communicating to each other.
36:50
You know, that's your stuff is just it's just noise.
36:54
It's just detail.
36:56
But if you don't care about their connection, nothing matters.
37:02
Like the whole movie doesn't matter.
37:03
That's that is incredibly true.
37:05
I mean, you get only I was going to say I think one of the highlights for me,
37:09
is, is Sandra Heller, her character.
37:14
And she could that character could be so monotone.
37:18
You could feel like that's an underdeveloped character
37:20
in anybody else's hands.
37:22
And she she makes you you feel like this is a real woman
37:27
with feelings, and she's not just this stone cold.
37:31
I have no emotions.
37:32
I'm going to save the planet.
37:34
This is a mission she must go through.
37:36
Like you see that she has she.
37:38
The performance is spectacular.
37:40
That you see, that she has underlying feelings about the actions
37:43
that she's taking.
37:45
Yeah, just not overtly expressing,
37:48
to who she's interacting with because she's gotta keep her shit together.
37:52
That's a lot of pressure, you know? So I.
37:55
End of the day, she she knows that she has
37:58
to complete what she is trying to do.
38:02
I loved her.
38:03
Walk us on the carrot.
38:04
When do. And doing karaoke.
38:07
Yeah, actually, I'm sure, like.
38:08
80% through the song, she's like, that's enough now
38:12
and just leaves, like, really enjoying that moment that.
38:17
Because if there was, like, this big emotional
38:20
end up to that track, it wouldn't have felt right.
38:24
But the way that she's like, okay,
38:27
we've had fun
38:29
and it's like, and, and I don't want to be the center of this, like,
38:33
just not really.
38:33
You know, I am already the center of this.
38:36
On another level. I can do that.
38:39
I don't want to be this type of, center for very long.
38:45
Yeah. So she really.
38:47
Yeah.
38:48
Interested me as a character.
38:50
But I can't say that there's
38:51
a Sandra Haller performance that doesn't captivate me.
38:55
Yeah. She's kind of an all timer.
38:57
Yeah.
38:57
You know the movie the movie had me thinking something
39:01
and it didn't it didn't happen.
39:03
It's good because it wouldn't have really made much sense.
39:05
But when he comes to and his two,
39:09
co travelers are dead,
39:12
and then later in the movie
39:15
they're referring to like, well, hey, what's going to happen?
39:19
Because this is a one way trip, what happens when we accomplish our goal
39:23
and the two others are like, we're going to forget
39:27
to like all of ourselves in a comfortable, fun way, you know?
39:33
But we're going to off ourselves.
39:35
And when they said that, part of me was wondering,
39:40
did they already accomplish their mission?
39:42
And he just didn't kill himself.
39:44
And they did.
39:46
And he doesn't remember it.
39:48
But very a good question.
39:50
I was wondering, I was like, oh, is that going to be something that's
39:53
revealed like this reveal which I hate, you know,
39:56
everything's going to be a twist because that's insane.
39:59
But my brain paused on that for a second,
40:02
or I was like, is he going to find out that he already accomplished what he meant
40:07
to accomplish when he's at a moment where he thinks he failed?
40:12
But that that didn't happen.
40:13
And that's good because it makes all the actions.
40:15
It would make all the actions with Rocky Point.
40:18
As well, because they both don't know why their crew died.
40:22
You know, it's so. Yeah.
40:23
But I mean, that was a big question of mine of, oh, what did happen to them?
40:28
But at the same time.
40:30
There is a lot of this movie where it's like, don't worry about it.
40:32
Don't just
40:33
yeah, I mean, they're what they were in Cryosleep for what, how many years?
40:39
30 years.
40:40
Something like that. Yeah, I asleep alien.
40:42
But you know, they're they're on this for like.
40:46
30 years medicated coma.
40:48
Cause they awake during.
40:49
It wasn't one of them.
40:50
The the pilot of the.
40:52
No, we just had. To get them it's. Order.
40:54
They were all. Just.
40:54
No, it's alien like it is aliens.
40:56
Where they go to sleep and the ship controls itself because it's,
41:01
you know, essentially just going towards a destination,
41:04
the ship that then couldn't slip a switch so it wouldn't rip itself apart.
41:08
That is really my biggest fucking thing.
41:11
Maybe something happened to the technology.
41:14
Yeah, I meant it.
41:16
You know, it's like maybe even.
41:18
The it's it's part of the episode.
41:20
You know.
41:21
It's planet of the apes where he leaves with six,
41:27
six or 5 or 6, astronauts.
41:30
And they completely, you know, go nowhere because he wound up on Earth.
41:34
Spoilers for the film from 1968.
41:37
But the other ones,
41:39
like something happens, the the seal on their
41:44
the little capsules that they're in cracks or something due to the crash
41:48
and that introduction of outside elements of non control
41:53
something that's what kills the other astronauts in that movie.
41:57
And that's just that's all I thought of in that I was like something went wrong.
42:00
And you know right what one thing went wrong and you can't
42:04
keep people preserved for 30 years if anything goes wrong.
42:09
So something was wrong. Right. Yeah.
42:12
The lack of the ship even being like, oh, by the way, this is what happened.
42:18
It is weird, you know.
42:19
He has no knowledge of it. There's no meta.
42:22
It's supposed to be keeping you in this, this coma, right?
42:26
This induced sleep.
42:28
And it has no medical records of don't.
42:31
Yeah. Don't trust, self,
42:34
driving.
42:35
Yeah.
42:37
Because then that I guess you could just be be careful of I, I yeah.
42:41
Because that's, that's what happens in 2001.
42:44
You know, he, the how kills the,
42:48
the sleeping astronauts, the other 2 or 3 astronauts that are on there.
42:52
He kills all of them while they're in,
42:56
you know, suspended and, man, whatever the fuck it would be in there.
43:00
But, yeah, he, you know, that's how it kills him.
43:03
So, yeah, there's a lot of again,
43:05
you could look at a lot of the movie and point at other films.
43:09
There's, there's obviously, you know, if you threw Interstellar
43:14
and The Martian into a blender, you got a lot of this movie.
43:19
You know, you've a lot of this movie,
43:22
leaving and never and thinking that you're never going to come back
43:25
and then making the choice at the end not to not to go back to Earth
43:29
because, you know, McConaughey's character leaves, you know, he
43:33
he realizes that everything that was
43:35
his life is no longer there, and he has no reason to stay there.
43:38
So he goes to populate a planet with Anne Hathaway.
43:41
That's a good choice personally. And so.
43:44
With me.
43:45
Two highly attractive people are going to repopulate Earth.
43:48
Good for them.
43:49
You know, but there's a lot of that.
43:52
And there's even the character of Rocky and the relationship
43:57
between the two of them.
43:58
I sort of Joe Dante's the explorers or explorers, not the explorers,
44:04
which was, what, 84, 85?
44:07
This is a blind spot for me. I'm going to have to.
44:09
Oh, yeah, this is.
44:10
Write it. Down class. I mean, it was a bomb.
44:13
It was everyone when they were making it, I think the idea was like,
44:17
we're going to be the next Goonies or something like that.
44:20
Ethan Hawke is in it. River Phoenix.
44:23
Oh, okay. And, I loved it.
44:26
Like, I watched this shit ton as a kid, but there's a playfulness with Rocky
44:33
that that it kind of reminded me of explorers
44:35
a bit, which was a movie I had not thought of in a very long time.
44:40
I'm gonna write that down.
44:41
River and launch explorers as explorers.
44:43
I feel like they actually had a sort of 4K,
44:47
and this silliness is going to make me get
44:51
explorers on 4K,
44:53
which I'm fine. Was
44:55
fine was.
44:58
So what have you been?
44:59
Pete has has told me he does not believe in, just not streaming something.
45:05
He'll just buy it.
45:06
I tried to explain.
45:07
I try to explain a library app. That's quite brilliant.
45:10
Now, where you get to watch the movie is off of it for free,
45:14
because it's like your library card, and he's.
45:15
Like, just buy it. Just.
45:17
Just what?
45:17
I got to wait.
45:18
I'm like, for some other fucking person to return?
45:21
No. Did you know this is the. Brilliance of this?
45:23
I'm trying to explain this library.
45:25
I like the brilliance of it is.
45:27
It's a streaming app for the library of the movies.
45:30
And it's like you can you have a certain amount of tickets a month, right?
45:34
And you're just, you know, waiting. It's like.
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It's just like being honest when.
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I'm watching on my phone.
45:40
No, you can't see it to your TV.
45:41
It's it's just like my TV.
45:44
So I want. To get across. To them. Crowdsourcing.
45:46
Come on.
45:47
Come on.
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I do agree with myself.
45:51
I do agree with you that any any Blu ray
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is is a million times better than even the 4K streaming it.
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There's the physicals.
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I will advocate for that.
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But in the meantime, if you don't want to purchase
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the film, there's this great like library app.
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That you can and I.
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I would encourage like it used to.
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That's a good resource.
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I think we should update libraries.
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Yes. Fitness.
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But anyway, Pete will not be doing that.
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People just buy it. Yeah, I well.
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It's $90 right now. I can own this forever.
46:28
It's perfect.
46:28
Or you could stream it, right?
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You right now from the library up for free.
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It's not you're not paying for the streaming service.
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It's it's a public service.
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Okay.
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That that's.
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Yes we do.
46:43
And anyway, we'll wrap up wrap up our discussion about.
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Project Hail Mary.
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I think I walked out of it going it was a it was enjoyable.
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But it.
46:54
Wasn't giving me a ton of like.
46:58
Brain food to chew on.
47:00
And it's not like.
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A knock, though. It's like thinking about it.
47:04
It's not a knock.
47:05
Like I found it. It highly enjoyable, film.
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You know, it's a good blockbuster. It's a good.
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I mean, I know.
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It's April, but it. Was a good summer movie.
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You know, I'll put it in.
47:16
Quotes are spring, you know, heading into the summer?
47:18
Yes. Spring. Right.
47:20
Spring break. Yeah. Is now. Yeah, yeah.
47:23
Oh, so I mean, I maybe it hit on some like
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the Rocky and, I guess my final thought is, you know, maybe the Rocky and,
47:33
Grace relationship at times was like, overly sentimental.
47:36
But yeah, whatever.
47:40
It's a. Rock puppet.
47:41
We're
47:43
we're basically telling a story of a rock dog.
47:46
Yeah.
47:46
So which is another interesting thing that I won't get into
47:50
because I think about, like, the intellect of, of the society
47:53
that has made it or like Rocky's people have made it with this minimal technology.
47:59
And I'm like, wow, you know, humans are a bunch of idiots.
48:01
And it's like these guys, I don't think it's minimal technology.
48:05
I think they make it look, I mean, because there's.
48:08
Something it's like it.
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Yeah, it's like a sophisticated it probably is more sophisticated.
48:13
And that's why I said like, oh, because the humans are a bunch of idiots.
48:15
They can't figure out certain things.
48:17
And Rocky is like just an engineer.
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So, anyway, we don't need to get into
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we don't need to get to Rocky's character backstory behavior.
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I mean, if anything. It's all through, like a translation app, so we.
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Don't really know.
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Yeah.
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You could be like a broken language sort of thing.
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Also, you know,
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it can it?
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When you think of
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when I come into stuff like that
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where it's like, oh, this seems overly simplified for these people.
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Like, how did they do that?
48:49
It's because it's common for them.
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You know, they're they've reached that point
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for thousands and thousands of years before we did.
48:58
So for them, it's yeah,
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it's like me trying to explain
49:04
what an ness's like. Yeah.
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You pop the thing in plays, video game.
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What else do you need to know?
49:11
You know, like that kind of a thing of
49:13
of you're talking to a child.
49:16
So you talk.
49:16
You talk like a child to a child.
49:21
I actually very cynically during the movie,
49:23
I was like, I'm amazed no one's made the joke more like crying.
49:29
Gosling. Because, yeah, he's.
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Yeah, he's got a lot of he's got a ton of emotional moments in this.
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And I mean, it's.
49:36
No one's picked up on this.
49:38
His last name is very on the nose.
49:42
You know, the movie's called Hail Mary Project.
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Hail Mary.
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His last name is Grace.
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Hail Mary, full of grace.
49:48
It's that didn't click for you.
49:50
Well done.
49:51
That must be an interesting moment that you're having right now.
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Yeah, I very much enjoyed it.
49:56
And, yeah, it's it's a fun
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summer blockbuster thing. And
50:04
I if you were to put it to me, I prefer Martian.
50:07
I think, yeah.
50:09
Yeah, I probably prefer Martian.
50:10
And if we're, you know, if I
50:12
throw in other space like interstellar, I prefer interstellar too.
50:16
But I thought this was just a blast.
50:21
It's a it's a lot of fun.
50:22
It's just a nice, good time at the movies.
50:25
And, huzzah for me.
50:28
Come on.
50:28
You know.
50:29
And it's doing well, and I love. It.
50:32
Deserves it. And it's it's. Well.
50:34
Yeah. Exactly.
50:36
I want I wonder what Lord Miller will follow this up with now.
50:40
Well, I gotta work.
50:41
I mean, they I think they probably are
50:44
in post-production of the the next Spider-Verse
50:48
spider.
50:50
I don't know.
50:50
Yeah.
50:50
That's, that's like 28 slated for 2027, I think.
50:54
I mean, I as long as it's what it should be.
50:58
Take your time.
51:00
No ones, you know what I mean?
51:02
I remember when they said like, oh, it's going to be delayed.
51:04
I was like, that's fine, that's fine.
51:06
Just make it what you want it to be.
51:10
Yeah. Right now 2027.
51:11
So they're, you know, probably still in production honestly.
51:14
Yeah. Made that. They make fun. Of everything.
51:16
Let them do another Jump Street film.
51:18
You fucking cowards.
51:21
That's like them.
51:22
That's I mean I mean like legitimately I'm like, no really.
51:25
Let them make another one. Right?
51:27
I don't know, trying to like, tell is still,
51:30
didn't have some weird stuff.
51:32
I'm not sure. Something about.
51:36
Girlfriend manipulation or.
51:38
Some, like, crazy, I don't know.
51:40
Yeah, he did some crazy stuff, but, yeah, it's not, you know.
51:44
So as long as you get, you get a gambit in there or.
51:48
Okay, that's all we need.
51:50
Yeah. Everyone calls control gambit.
51:55
I don't know if I do, but
51:57
you're wrong.
51:58
We wrong
52:01
live and live in an errors.
52:05
This is a movie that could have worked with him to let me script straight.
52:08
Blanking on his name. Jesus, Channing Tatum.
52:11
Yeah, I guess he Channing Tatum in this movie, actually.
52:14
Really? I don't think I would enjoy it nearly as much.
52:17
I'll be honest, I don't know.
52:18
It's still be fun though.
52:20
Yeah, I get actually emotional punches.
52:23
Funnier, I think.
52:24
Yeah, yeah, it would be a
52:26
it would be a straight up comedy, like, yeah, I could make this.
52:29
Yeah. The heaviness might be gone.
52:33
But anyway.
52:35
Well, thanks for chatting.
52:36
The project Hail Mary, I think.
52:38
We talked about longer than I anticipated. But.
52:41
Again, you know, we just.
52:43
Go on tangents about other films.
52:45
And that's that's kind of the point of, you know, talking about film
52:49
and this podcast, even as, you know, lead where you're
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curious, where the connections happen and have fun with it.
52:57
And thank you for having me. Yeah, of course.
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Hey, guys.
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Ashley here. Thanks for listening to Film Curious!
53:04
If you enjoyed this episode, there's plenty more to come.
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And after our Project Hail Mary discussion it made me want to rewatch The Martian.
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So stay tuned for that review in the coming weeks if you want more
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