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- 0:20Speaker 1: Now traveling is changing. More and more families are saying, yes,
- 0:23Speaker 1: we want a holiday, but we'd also love it to
- 0:26Speaker 1: have meaning. That is where volunteerism comes in. The first
- 0:32Speaker 1: time I've heard this word, and I am so my
- 0:35Speaker 1: curiosity is peaked and I'm ready to hear more about it.
- 0:38Speaker 1: Travel experiences that allow you to actually give back, learn
- 0:42Speaker 1: something new, and still actually enjoy being on holiday. So
- 0:45Speaker 1: today in one of the world, we want to unpack
- 0:48Speaker 1: how this works in real life and to help us,
- 0:51Speaker 1: we're joined on the line by Shirley Anne McQuaid. She's
- 0:54Speaker 1: the Western Cape regional manager for Flight ser and she's
- 0:57Speaker 1: yet to help us understand what is of volunteerism, what
- 1:01Speaker 1: does it look like, how do we get in on it,
- 1:05Speaker 1: do it responsibly? And if it's something that ordinary families,
- 1:08Speaker 1: ordinary South Africans like you and me can actually enjoy.
- 1:12Speaker 1: Welcome to Cave Talk, Shirley Anne Good AFFNN.
- 1:16Speaker 2: Thank you for having me on the show today.
- 1:18Speaker 1: Thank you for joining us. Let's start at the very beginning.
- 1:22Speaker 1: It's the first time that I've heard about this concept
- 1:24Speaker 1: called volunteerism. Can you just tell us a little bit
- 1:27Speaker 1: more about what it is?
- 1:29Speaker 2: Yes, sure. Volunteerism combines travel and community service. Travelers lend
- 1:34Speaker 2: their time and energy into meaningful local projects while exploring
- 1:39Speaker 2: a new destination. This all came about sort of in
- 1:43Speaker 2: the early two thousands, where so backpack a trend, but
- 1:46Speaker 2: it has now evolved. Today's volunteerists often families who are
- 1:51Speaker 2: wanting to teach their children about empathy, gratitude and create
- 1:55Speaker 2: a more global awareness. And there's a strong generational shift
- 1:59Speaker 2: for parents who wants back to part across Asia many
- 2:02Speaker 2: years ago, they're now taking their kids on a purposeful
- 2:05Speaker 2: lad adventure.
- 2:07Speaker 1: I love that. I love that because this is my
- 2:10Speaker 1: generation of people, you see, this is our gen X people.
- 2:14Speaker 1: I love that that they've taken this eat because it's
- 2:16Speaker 1: a value right that you are going somewhere else and
- 2:19Speaker 1: kind of being mindful and intentional. And obviously we've become
- 2:26Speaker 1: a lot lot more aware of our impact as travelers.
- 2:30Speaker 1: So when people go on holiday with a purpose? What
- 2:34Speaker 1: do they usually imagine? What does that normally look like?
- 2:39Speaker 2: Your family volunteerism transformed an ordinary holiday into something truly
- 2:43Speaker 2: memorable at Forger's and deep family bonds while giving the
- 2:47Speaker 2: children a real world learning experience. And the studies have
- 2:51Speaker 2: shown that use volunteering boosts self esteem, empathy, and resilience.
- 2:56Speaker 2: And it's a very powerful antidote to that screen time.
- 2:59Speaker 2: And that's dressed that families are under these days. And
- 3:03Speaker 2: parents that experience, you know, we love experiencing travel, service
- 3:07Speaker 2: and education can turn the world into a living classroom.
- 3:11Speaker 2: And it gives the children a better chance to actually
- 3:15Speaker 2: experience the world and it's real and it's a real place,
- 3:17Speaker 2: and it's real thing and come back and tell wonderful stories.
- 3:21Speaker 1: Now, Shelly, and some parents are saying, oh my goodness, gracious,
- 3:24Speaker 1: I mean, if I've got it, that just sounds like
- 3:26Speaker 1: more work for me that I want to be on
- 3:29Speaker 1: holiday with my kids. And you know, these kids are
- 3:32Speaker 1: like hurting little cats. So is it going to be
- 3:35Speaker 1: more work or less work? Because do kids then, which
- 3:38Speaker 1: is actually my question, is it appropriate for my kids?
- 3:41Speaker 1: Do my kids need to be a certain age and
- 3:43Speaker 1: do they need to be able to you know, be
- 3:45Speaker 1: able to get involved, because otherwise I can see parents
- 3:48Speaker 1: going like, I'm not going on holiday to get to
- 3:51Speaker 1: nag this kid to go and have this experience.
- 3:54Speaker 2: Yeah. So the thing is that you can just come
- 3:56Speaker 2: to Flight Center. We can put you in touch with
- 3:58Speaker 2: some great organizations that can involve a holiday as well
- 4:01Speaker 2: as a little bit of volunteering and work, so balanced trips.
- 4:05Speaker 2: It's not full time volunteering. Half a morning here, half
- 4:09Speaker 2: a morning there. In between smoking, you can go and
- 4:11Speaker 2: do a few things. Generally speaking, I would say kids
- 4:15Speaker 2: or I wouldn't take the young young children long, but
- 4:19Speaker 2: maybe they're from about eight, nine or ten years up.
- 4:22Speaker 2: Definitely for teenagers, definitely can recommend it if you're looking
- 4:26Speaker 2: at destinations that are really close to home where they
- 4:28Speaker 2: can add value. So for example, like Mauritius, they've got
- 4:33Speaker 2: you know, help care for rescue dogs with paws in
- 4:35Speaker 2: between the beach strips. You know, so maybe a morning
- 4:37Speaker 2: just of passing the dogs, petting them, feeding them, maybe
- 4:40Speaker 2: grooming them, you know, in the same shoals. For instance,
- 4:44Speaker 2: you can go and join the coral restoration with marine
- 4:47Speaker 2: bologists in the Kopinski Resort. So they're really giving a
- 4:50Speaker 2: true impact back into into nature, into the environment and
- 4:55Speaker 2: working alongside marine bologists and maybe inspiring them to follow
- 5:01Speaker 2: that path in maybe one day.
- 5:03Speaker 1: I mean, I think what I'm hearing you say is
- 5:06Speaker 1: sorry to break your word. What I'm hearing you say
- 5:08Speaker 1: is that if you if you create a holiday where
- 5:13Speaker 1: you're kind of matching the interests of your kids with
- 5:16Speaker 1: the interests of and I think it's such a great
- 5:18Speaker 1: way to keep them off their devices on a holiday
- 5:21Speaker 1: as well. How have families been responding to it from
- 5:25Speaker 1: your clients that have taken this kind of approach to
- 5:29Speaker 1: a more purposeful holiday experience together, because there must be
- 5:33Speaker 1: incredible bonding that happens. How have they experienced it and
- 5:37Speaker 1: given feedback to you?
- 5:40Speaker 2: So it's really been great because it's inspired people to
- 5:43Speaker 2: youngsters to really get involved in the community. And they
- 5:46Speaker 2: come back, you know, from an overseas holiday where they've
- 5:48Speaker 2: reached out saying Mauritius, or in the socials maybe in
- 5:51Speaker 2: as far as Costa Rica where they've assisted with total
- 5:55Speaker 2: hatching programs. They can get involved closer to home, you know,
- 5:59Speaker 2: like mornings at Sangkop with Penguin Rescue Mornings feeding the penguins,
- 6:05Speaker 2: or maybe getting involved in locally at the Garden Route
- 6:08Speaker 2: with Green Park planting trees, maybe getting involved in the
- 6:13Speaker 2: sand parks in our nature conservation eradicating alien vegetation from
- 6:19Speaker 2: our parks. So it really does give the next generation
- 6:23Speaker 2: of travelers are moving this from no leave no trace,
- 6:25Speaker 2: but leave more to leave a positive impact. So I
- 6:28Speaker 2: think that's where people are going nice leaving a positive impact,
- 6:31Speaker 2: not only just no trace of where I've been making
- 6:34Speaker 2: sure that my travel is sustainable.
- 6:38Speaker 1: Right, let's talk a little bit more about because I
- 6:43Speaker 1: think it's one thing. And you've mentioned some of the
- 6:47Speaker 1: international destinations, but let's talk a little bit more about
- 6:49Speaker 1: that now, some of the experiences, and let's start local
- 6:52Speaker 1: in South Africa, because you did mention you in Cape
- 6:55Speaker 1: Town the Penguin Rescue mornings at Sancob which is such
- 6:59Speaker 1: a great initiative to be a part of. And you
- 7:03Speaker 1: mentioned on the Garden Route about tree planting with green Pop.
- 7:07Speaker 1: But you can also go further afield to Kruger Region
- 7:10Speaker 1: and Addo regions. What in the day they actually.
- 7:14Speaker 2: Look like they're obviously a little bit more physical activity.
- 7:17Speaker 2: So if you don't you know eradicating the vegetation, so
- 7:21Speaker 2: more of your older teens and physically able people to
- 7:25Speaker 2: go out there and you eradicate some alien vegetation. It
- 7:29Speaker 2: might involve a little bit of walking in the bush,
- 7:32Speaker 2: chopping a few trees, so it does get a little
- 7:35Speaker 2: bit more physical as opposed to maybe feeding the penguins
- 7:39Speaker 2: at San Kop. But also, you know, beach teanups are
- 7:41Speaker 2: also great opportunity. You know, eradicating plastics from our oceans
- 7:45Speaker 2: is such a big, a big problem worldwide, and you know,
- 7:49Speaker 2: a small morning activity of dedicating your time and making
- 7:55Speaker 2: sure that we can clean up our beaches get rid
- 7:57Speaker 2: of all the plastics, and you can just walk along
- 7:59Speaker 2: the beach at Noburg or whatever and just pick up
- 8:02Speaker 2: some plastic, pick up some rubbish and destroy it responsibly.
- 8:07Speaker 2: That will also add to our you know, aid our
- 8:10Speaker 2: environment and also just giving back to the community.
- 8:13Speaker 1: We're talking to Shelly Anne mccoay. She is the Western
- 8:16Speaker 1: Cape regional manager for Flight Center, and we're talking about volunteerism,
- 8:20Speaker 1: travel experiences that allow you to give back, learn something new,
- 8:24Speaker 1: and still actually enjoy being on holiday. Okay, let's talk
- 8:28Speaker 1: about some of the options for for some of us
- 8:30Speaker 1: who might be thinking about some international experiences because you
- 8:34Speaker 1: don't have to go very very far. I know there's
- 8:37Speaker 1: something in Namibia they do some seal rescue work.
- 8:42Speaker 2: Yes, so do seal rescue work ye Malvaspe in that
- 8:45Speaker 2: sort of area as well as beach Klemax. They've got
- 8:47Speaker 2: a very big, you know, a call to clean up
- 8:50Speaker 2: the beaches along their coastline as well. So it's just
- 8:54Speaker 2: a simpler matter of you know, signing up to the
- 8:58Speaker 2: Ocean Conservation days and with it's called Ocean Conservation NAMOBIA,
- 9:03Speaker 2: which are volunteers which support trained teams and there's no
- 9:07Speaker 2: direct handling or you know, you don't have to partake
- 9:09Speaker 2: in high impact coastal teanaups, but there's an opportunity to
- 9:13Speaker 2: you know aid sustainability with you know sea breeze and
- 9:17Speaker 2: exploring the local you know environment. But at at glance,
- 9:23Speaker 2: I mean there's only a half day sort of activity
- 9:25Speaker 2: and that normally runs between April to October, and you
- 9:29Speaker 2: would need a bit of staminus. So I would say
- 9:31Speaker 2: you'd need to you know, be fit. That's what I'm saying. Teenagers,
- 9:35Speaker 2: definitely teenagers, young kids, I would say more, maybe you
- 9:38Speaker 2: can go to sangkobs from eight years up, we can
- 9:40Speaker 2: go to feeding the penguins. That you know, some of
- 9:43Speaker 2: these activities do require a little bit more physical activity
- 9:48Speaker 2: that that is what you would find in Namibia if
- 9:51Speaker 2: you are looking at traveling a little bit further Costa
- 9:53Speaker 2: Rica with total hatching programs, unforgettable empathy lessons for kids.
- 9:58Speaker 2: It really really a and that you know, the bulls
- 10:01Speaker 2: to see the big impact that they can have in
- 10:04Speaker 2: the in the in the city.
- 10:05Speaker 1: And your kids can be relatively young for that, right,
- 10:08Speaker 1: I mean.
- 10:09Speaker 2: Yes, I would say I'm about about ten about then
- 10:12Speaker 2: eight nineteen years old upwards. And you know they do
- 10:16Speaker 2: night patrols. It takes about one or two hours. The
- 10:19Speaker 2: peak time for that is between June and November, depending
- 10:22Speaker 2: on the coast. Beach walking, you know, you use red
- 10:25Speaker 2: light tortures only. And what child doesn't get excited about
- 10:30Speaker 2: seeing turtle you know, turtles being hatched and moving into
- 10:33Speaker 2: the sea. It's an adultable experience.
- 10:35Speaker 1: What adults don't get excited You have to be a
- 10:38Speaker 1: real kill joy if you don't get excited about turtles
- 10:41Speaker 1: adging on the beach.
- 10:42Speaker 2: Absolutely, and another great one, I mean it's the safe
- 10:46Speaker 2: shells with the corals, you know, with obviously drug or
- 10:48Speaker 2: warming and the warming of the seas and damage that's
- 10:51Speaker 2: been done to corals. You know, people can actually invest
- 10:54Speaker 2: their time in between snorkeling going to go and plant
- 10:57Speaker 2: new corals. And it's at the Kapinsk resort. You know,
- 11:02Speaker 2: highly recommend it because they actually even take photographs and
- 11:05Speaker 2: they can actually give you progress reports on the impact
- 11:07Speaker 2: that you've done, so you can actually see the value
- 11:09Speaker 2: that you've added through the environment.
- 11:14Speaker 1: It sounds really I'm excited. I'm excited. I think before
- 11:21Speaker 1: we wrap up with you, I think I want to
- 11:24Speaker 1: ask you, like if a family is intrigued about us,
- 11:26Speaker 1: but now they don't know where to start, like what's
- 11:29Speaker 1: the what's the first step? And and and I know
- 11:32Speaker 1: that you are worth flight center. A lot of people
- 11:37Speaker 1: are not booking through services like yours anymore. Some feel
- 11:42Speaker 1: like maybe they can curate this on their own. Is
- 11:44Speaker 1: there something that you could curate on your own if
- 11:47Speaker 1: you can just chat to us about about.
- 11:50Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, you could create in your own, but I'll
- 11:52Speaker 2: be very mindful of when the impact that you're making
- 11:56Speaker 2: is it because you're coming back rich or is it
- 12:00Speaker 2: you're actually adding value. You know, that is a very
- 12:03Speaker 2: important part with light Center. We do have a operator
- 12:07Speaker 2: that is has various various different trips that you can
- 12:14Speaker 2: have to see. It's like a specialist a gy Adventures
- 12:18Speaker 2: for instance. They are hooked up with Planetarias. So everything
- 12:21Speaker 2: that they do adds value back to the community. So
- 12:24Speaker 2: your impact, it's not about you paying for a photograph,
- 12:27Speaker 2: to be doing volunteer work, or it's actually your money
- 12:31Speaker 2: that you contribute. All the time and energy that you've
- 12:33Speaker 2: contributed to this activity. Actually you can see the benefit
- 12:38Speaker 2: to the local community. It doesn't take away from jobs
- 12:41Speaker 2: from the local people. It actually adds more value to
- 12:44Speaker 2: the environment. And think that is the important part.
- 12:46Speaker 1: What you're saying, Sally Anne, is there's an ethical component
- 12:48Speaker 1: actually that people need to consider. So it's probably best
- 12:51Speaker 1: to get a conversation going with a good travel advisor
- 12:56Speaker 1: who's an expert that can tell you that if I'm
- 12:59Speaker 1: planting that tree, the actual impact that it's going to
- 13:02Speaker 1: be having, as opposed to like you say, just coming
- 13:05Speaker 1: back and there, I took a picture hatching a turtle,
- 13:07Speaker 1: but I don't know what other biodiversity I might have
- 13:10Speaker 1: killed along the way, and.
- 13:12Speaker 2: The money that you've volunteered, making sure that that money
- 13:14Speaker 2: that you've contributed, if you have contributed leading towards it
- 13:17Speaker 2: goes to the local people. And that's not day to
- 13:19Speaker 2: go and be for you know, children to be exploited
- 13:23Speaker 2: or in the environment to be exploited, or animals to
- 13:26Speaker 2: be exploited for personally personal gain. You know, it is
- 13:29Speaker 2: about giving back to the environment and to the community
- 13:32Speaker 2: and that's what you really want at the end of
- 13:34Speaker 2: the day.
- 13:35Speaker 1: Shelly Anna Quaid, thank you so much for chatting to
- 13:37Speaker 1: us today, the Western Cave regional manager for Flight Center.
- 13:40Speaker 1: Where can people get ahold of you? If they want
- 13:41Speaker 1: to know more, you.
- 13:43Speaker 2: Can come to any flights in the store we've got,
- 13:45Speaker 2: you know, forty five stores will cross South Africa and
- 13:50Speaker 2: you're welcome to reach out to any of our travel experts.
- 13:53Speaker 2: They'll be able to point you in the right direction.
- 13:55Speaker 1: Thank you so much, and that is it for your
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