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2136 - Pop and Bravo with Jason Zeffir · Pink Shade: Reality TV with Mary Payne

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  Speaker 1: Hey everybody, welcome to Pink Shade. It's Thursday. Thursday is
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  Speaker 1: the day we talk about Bravo. Today I've got a
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  Speaker 1: Bravo expert. It's my friend Jason Zephyr. Jason is a
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  Speaker 1: new friend of mine who is a writer and wrote
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  Speaker 1: the really fun book, Zombies of the Upper East Side.
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  Speaker 1: And he's here to chat with his favorite subject, which
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  Speaker 1: is one of my favorite subjects as well, is the
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  Speaker 1: former cast of Real Housewives of New York, the new
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  Speaker 1: cast of E! 's new show, The Golden Life. Oh
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  Speaker 1: my gosh, Jason, how happy are we to talk about
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  Speaker 1: the show?
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  Speaker 2: So happy, so excited. I'm just, it's like a fever dream.
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  Speaker 2: It actually happened. They're back on TV. Yes, I'm so excited.
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  Speaker 1: You and I were texting yesterday and I was like,
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  Speaker 1: I'm getting nervous that it's going to be terrible and
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  Speaker 1: we're all going to be so disappointed. But it wasn't.
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  Speaker 2: No, it was great. It was everything you wanted it
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  Speaker 2: to be. And I like that they haven't grown that much.
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  Speaker 2: I like that they haven't changed that much. I like that.
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  Speaker 2: Of course, we'll get all into it, but I like
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  Speaker 2: that Sonya is still holding on to resentments because that's real.
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  Speaker 2: People do that. People get upset about something, especially when
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  Speaker 2: there's money involved, and they never let it go. Even
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  Speaker 2: when they say that they're going to let it go,
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  Speaker 2: they never let it go. So I love that.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, my gosh. So right away, the things that we
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  Speaker 1: find out are, of course, our main cast is going
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  Speaker 1: to be Ramona, Luann, Sonya, Dorinda, and Kelly.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: These are like little nuggets that they put through all
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  Speaker 1: through that I just wanted to point out. Things that
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  Speaker 1: probably in the timeline of our world I didn't realize.
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  Speaker 1: They stopped filming Real Housewives of New York with this
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  Speaker 1: cast five years ago. Okay. And I guess it makes
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  Speaker 1: sense now because we're in season three of the new Roni,
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  Speaker 1: which by the way, I think the new Roni with
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  Speaker 1: this new cast is.
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  Speaker 2: It's so good.
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  Speaker 1: So much better than- Oh my gosh.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.
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  Speaker 1: We find out it's been two years since these women
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  Speaker 1: did the Real Housewives Ultimate Girls trip. It's been 10
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  Speaker 1: years since Dorinda didn't invite Sonia to Bluestone Manor to
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  Speaker 1: film a couple of episodes.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. She lost hundreds of thousands of dollars, which I
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  Speaker 2: don't know that that math is mathing, but it was
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  Speaker 2: some money, although she did appear in those episodes. Yes.
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  Speaker 2: So like she was getting her vagina rejuvenated, if you remember.
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  Speaker 2: So I feel like if you appear in the episode,
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  Speaker 2: no matter in what capacity, I think you still get
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  Speaker 2: paid for that. That's why a lot of times they'll
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  Speaker 2: do a FaceTime call or something if somebody's not being featured.
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  Speaker 2: So I think she got paid. Maybe she didn't get
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  Speaker 2: paid as much. I don't know. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: 10 years. And they're allowed to curse on E.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, which is great because I love to see them
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  Speaker 2: say the F word over and over and over again.
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  Speaker 1: I loved it when, like, in one of the first scenes,
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  Speaker 1: she's like, I don't give a fuck.
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  Speaker 2: Yes. Oh, my God. I text you this.
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  Speaker 1: I go, they're allowed to say fucking shit and all
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  Speaker 1: this stuff on E?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Which means they probably could say it on Bravo. They
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  Speaker 1: just choose to bleep it to make it more family friendly?
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  Speaker 2: Probably, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Because they're at the same level of cable show, you know?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, yeah, I don't know. There's got to
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  Speaker 2: be something about that, maybe.
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  Speaker 1: I'd love to know. Yeah. So one more touchstone for
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  Speaker 1: our timeline is it's been 10 years since Luann got
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  Speaker 1: arrested in West Palm Beach.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: So I guess when we had the Bluestone Manor situation,
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  Speaker 1: when Dorinda didn't invite Sonia, that was the same year
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  Speaker 1: That Luann had been separated for one year, and she
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  Speaker 1: went back to the hotel room that she thought... She
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  Speaker 1: went back to the scene of the crime where she
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  Speaker 1: had gotten married the year before. So I'm just trying
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  Speaker 1: to kind of figure that out. They had filmed that
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  Speaker 1: season at Bluestone Manor, and then that was the same
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  Speaker 1: year that Luann got arrested for going back to the
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  Speaker 1: scene of the crime of her marriage.
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  Speaker 2: Was it, though? Was it, though? Because I thought.
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  Speaker 1: It seems not right. That seems not right to me.
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  Speaker 2: No, because I think wasn't... Let me Google. Because I
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  Speaker 2: feel like.
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  Speaker 1: When did Luann get arrested? How about that?
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  Speaker 2: 2017.
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  Speaker 1: So it's been less than 10 years for Luann. She
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  Speaker 1: was rounding up. She was rounding up.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, because I think the Sonya thing was like the
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  Speaker 2: year prior to that of not being invited. Because I
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  Speaker 2: feel like wasn't her not being invited, I think was
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  Speaker 2: the season where... Jules was there, right? I feel like.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, because Jules was going outside and like talking on
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  Speaker 1: the phone to her dad. He was dying?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he had pneumonia. Yeah, he had pneumonia. And they
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  Speaker 2: were smoking. They were smoking outside. And I don't love
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  Speaker 2: cigarettes in real life, but I do love when a
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  Speaker 2: housewife smokes. Because you know, things are going down. They
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  Speaker 2: put their guards down.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes. That's very, very true. You see their
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  Speaker 1: real selves. Okay. So we're just kind of in an overview,
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  Speaker 1: go through what happened on the episode. And I literally
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  Speaker 1: did this like 15 minutes before we started. I just
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  Speaker 1: zipped through so that we can– I don't want to
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  Speaker 1: forget a specific scene because some of them had so
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  Speaker 1: many nuggets.
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  Speaker 2: Yes. Yes.
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  Speaker 1: So I have to assume, because Ramona and Sonia both
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  Speaker 1: live in Palm Beach, we have to assume that the
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  Speaker 1: premise of the show is not that Jorinda, Luanne, and
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  Speaker 1: Kelly are living there. It's that they're doing a snowbird thing.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: So I didn't grasp that. I was like, are we
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  Speaker 1: pretending that they live in Palm Beach? But no, they're
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  Speaker 1: doing a snowbird thing, which that completely makes sense also.
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  Speaker 2: It definitely makes sense. And it's not like such a
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  Speaker 2: stretch either, you know, because lots of people in New
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  Speaker 2: York and up here go to Florida. you know, for
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  Speaker 2: the winter. It's very common.
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  Speaker 1: Yes. I love that everybody brought their assistants and the
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  Speaker 1: assistants are just on camera. They're not even trying to
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  Speaker 1: pretend that they're not coming with staff.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 1: I love that. And I noticed also right away that
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  Speaker 1: no one, not once, never once did they say Real Housewives.
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  Speaker 2: Right. Because they probably can't. There's probably some sort of
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  Speaker 2: something where, or they don't want to advertise that show
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  Speaker 2: or something.
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  Speaker 1: There's definitely something there that they do not say Real Housewives.
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  Speaker 1: I heard Dorinda once say the word Bravo right at
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  Speaker 1: the beginning. But they reference a lot the show. We
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  Speaker 1: were on the show. And a couple of times, somebody
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  Speaker 1: was like, especially if I have to film this show.
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  Speaker 1: And I was like, well, this is a new show,
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  Speaker 1: but you mean just the show. So I found that interesting.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't think they were going to be like, we
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  Speaker 1: were on a show called Real Housewives of New York.
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  Speaker 1: They aired on Bravo. They're not going to do that,
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  Speaker 1: but they just didn't say housewives at all. So I
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  Speaker 1: liked it. Right away, Sonia tells us she no longer drinks.
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  Speaker 1: In her confessionals, she seems great. The rest of the time,
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  Speaker 1: she's frenetic like she normally is. And I think that
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  Speaker 1: When our first scene that we get where Luann goes
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  Speaker 1: over to Ramona's and then Sonya comes, I didn't necessarily
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  Speaker 1: feel that she was drinking. I just felt like she
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  Speaker 1: was doing her performative. And she kind of tries to
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  Speaker 1: go from one subject to the next to get you confused,
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  Speaker 1: you know?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But I do not get non-drinking vibes from Sonya.
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  Speaker 2: No, I feel like there's gotta be something going on there.
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  Speaker 2: And if it's not alcohol, it's something else. And, um,
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  Speaker 2: I know somebody who knows her like on a personal
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  Speaker 2: level pretty closely and they, they're like, that's not her.
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  Speaker 2: So it's, so she definitely is performative in a way. And, um,
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  Speaker 2: did you watch the, the little like after show, the
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  Speaker 2: hot goss thing? Yeah. She, I mean, she's like the
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  Speaker 2: energizer bunny. Like she's in total performance mode and she's
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  Speaker 2: just going, like she was cracking up everybody behind the,
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  Speaker 2: behind the cameras. Like she, she's super funny. So it's like,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if she just, you know, the cameras
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  Speaker 2: are on her and then she just like performs. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know exactly what that is, but even, even if
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  Speaker 2: that's the case, I feel like there might be something
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  Speaker 2: that's like helping her kind of like loosen up and
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  Speaker 2: do her thing.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's right. I think it's a loosening up
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  Speaker 1: thing because I think maybe in her real life, she
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  Speaker 1: doesn't just like– she's not the life of the party.
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  Speaker 1: She's not the funniest one at the table. She's not
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  Speaker 1: the one that you're like, did you hear what she
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  Speaker 1: just said? She's not like that. But she feels now
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  Speaker 1: that she has to sort of live up to that
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  Speaker 1: kooky persona. But on the flip side of that, I
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  Speaker 1: would say I felt like Dorinda– was a little bit
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  Speaker 1: opposite of what we've seen for Dorinda. She says, like,
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to get heated. I don't want to
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  Speaker 1: get mad. And she didn't seem to be. Now, listen,
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  Speaker 1: it's the first episode. She didn't seem to get, like,
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  Speaker 1: drunk and yell at anybody. She just sort of walked away.
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  Speaker 1: And I liked how in the car she said to Luann,
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  Speaker 1: I can't explain to you why, but Sonia is just
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  Speaker 1: really agitating me. She's really irritating me because she's saying
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  Speaker 1: things that aren't true. you don't know what to believe.
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  Speaker 1: And then she just sort of, and I thought that
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  Speaker 1: was really honest too, because I, you know, I am
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  Speaker 1: also a lady of a certain age and you really
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  Speaker 1: do after like 50, mid fifties, which I am, you
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  Speaker 1: really do sort of get like, I don't have time
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  Speaker 1: for that bullshit. And you really do get very aggravated.
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  Speaker 1: It could be a good friend you've had for years.
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  Speaker 1: And you're like, I don't want to have three glasses
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  Speaker 1: of wine with that person, then they irritate me. I
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  Speaker 1: just don't want to do it anymore. And I kind
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  Speaker 1: of really felt that with Dorinda. She's just like, I
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  Speaker 1: don't want to listen to her lie.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think of any of them, Dorinda's probably the
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  Speaker 2: one that's maybe changed the most in that she's calmer. Yes.
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  Speaker 2: But let's see how long that lasts though, because I
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  Speaker 2: do think that she could get triggered. Oh, for sure.
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  Speaker 2: So with Dorinda, I think that she, she's probably the
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  Speaker 2: one that has changed the most, but we'll see what happens. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, also remember like she wasn't originally supposed to
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  Speaker 2: be on this show. Like Jill was supposed to be there.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. And I do wonder too, when Jill got kicked
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  Speaker 1: off the show because of her bad bunny rant, by
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  Speaker 1: the way, she just popped up on my algorithm last night,
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  Speaker 1: probably because I just watched the show. And it was
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  Speaker 1: her and Turks and Caicos complaining about how shitty everything
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  Speaker 1: is there. I was like, I've been to Turks and Caicos.
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  Speaker 1: I'd love to live there. Are you kidding me? It's
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  Speaker 1: not shitty.
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  Speaker 2: No, not shitty at all.
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  Speaker 1: But all the comments, people were like, ran to the
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  Speaker 1: comments because it's nothing, but do you, it's like, do
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  Speaker 1: you never stop complaining? Like, Do you ever just have
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  Speaker 1: a good time? Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: This has also got to be a really bad time
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  Speaker 2: for her. True. Because she really wanted to be on
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  Speaker 2: this show. I think she basically made it happen. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And like, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Ruined it for herself with her complaining.
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  Speaker 2: Now she's not on it.
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  Speaker 1: support the show. So when Sonia comes over to meet
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  Speaker 1: with Luann and Ramona, she says she never goes out
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  Speaker 1: at all. And Ramona says, that's right. She's a, she's
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  Speaker 1: a recluse. She never at all goes out. And then
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  Speaker 1: she tells a lot of tall tales, right? You know,
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  Speaker 1: and they're like, what? You know, and they just are
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  Speaker 1: sort of like dead sober in the middle of the afternoon,
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  Speaker 1: like that doesn't, none of that really, it doesn't, it's
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  Speaker 1: not linear. It doesn't track. And then she also just
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  Speaker 1: constantly contradicts what she just said two minutes before.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. She's telling stories. Like, I just think she's trying
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  Speaker 2: to entertain and try to make a good show. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 1: She wants to get paid like they all do, you know.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: We find out Luanne's got this boyfriend, Michael, which of
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  Speaker 1: course we saw on Ultimate Girls Trip. She's two hours late.
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  Speaker 1: She's two hours late.
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  Speaker 2: Can you believe it?
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  Speaker 1: She didn't see me levitate. Two hours late. Ramona apparently
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  Speaker 1: has a boyfriend. We're never going to see him, I guess,
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  Speaker 1: it sounds like.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, because she wants to hold on to him. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: if you go on one of these shows and you
• 15:06
  Speaker 2: get divorced, I could see why you would then never
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  Speaker 2: want to bring your potential mate back on a show.
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  Speaker 1: I wonder if Mario and Avery are going to make
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  Speaker 1: an appearance.
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  Speaker 2: Avery is. She's in the– I saw her in the trailer.
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  Speaker 2: She is. So she definitely is going to be in it. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you know, immediately also Ramona is giving Louie instructions
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  Speaker 1: about how to dress and how to act and all that.
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  Speaker 1: And then I love how, you know, she's like– I mean,
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  Speaker 1: of course, I'm in Palm Beach. I live here now
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  Speaker 1: and I look better than ever. I look amazing. And
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it wouldn't be Ramona if she didn't tell
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  Speaker 1: us how good she looks. She doesn't wait for somebody
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  Speaker 1: to tell her. She's going to let you know.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, I saw her recently a few months ago on
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  Speaker 2: Madison Avenue, just trotting down the sidewalk with a drink
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  Speaker 2: in her hand, and she does look great. She looks incredible.
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  Speaker 2: She is snatched, tiny waist. She looks so good.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, well, good for you, girl. Kelly has a very
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  Speaker 1: fat dog named Tarzan that she just sort of picks
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  Speaker 1: up by the harness, which is not great. Pick Tarzan
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  Speaker 1: up the right way.
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  Speaker 2: That's not right.
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  Speaker 1: Um, Harry Dubin is still around. Um, he and Sonia
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  Speaker 1: have been off and on for 30 years. Um, when
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  Speaker 1: my producer Ingrid and I met Harry Dubin at the
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  Speaker 1: Regency and, um, he was like, do you want me
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  Speaker 1: to get Sonia on the phone?
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  Speaker 2: I can.
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  Speaker 1: And we're like, that's okay. It's like, he's like, I
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  Speaker 1: can call her. And he's like, here's something nobody ever knows.
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  Speaker 1: I used to take Kelly.
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  Speaker 2: Ben Simone too. Yeah, he made the rounds, right?
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  Speaker 1: I was like, nobody is shocked by that, Harry Dubin.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And then he tried to hit on Ingrid, who's married,
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  Speaker 1: and commented her boobs.
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: So, all right. That was an iconic night for us. So,
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: they go on this boat ride. And I did like,
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: Luanne's like, we got the yacht. But she didn't, like,
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: ultimate girl strip, like, constantly saying her own catchphrases. She
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: didn't do it too much, which on Ultimate Girl's Trip,
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: we wanted to kill her because we're like, we got it. Jesus.
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: But she was like, we got the yacht. She sort
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: of made a joke about it with her friend Kimberly
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: with an IE on the end. And I got to
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: tell you something. These, for lack of a better term,
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: Mar-a-Lago faces are killing me.
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: Yes, for sure. Yeah.
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: Our gals look completely normal and sane and great compared
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: to some of these faces that we saw.
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. It's kind of sad.
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: It makes me rethink like, you know, I really kind
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: of want to get a facelift.
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: I'm like, maybe. I think their issues are more like
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: the filler. The filler. You got to be really careful
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: with the filler. Like I've thought I've done like a
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: little bit of Botox, nothing right now. Yeah. But you're young.
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: You don't need it.
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: I've done a little bit and I've thought about like
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: doing the filler in the jaw a little bit because
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: that seems to be something that everybody does. But then
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: you hear about it moving around and like– And then
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: scar tissue growing inside and that makes everything bigger too.
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: And it's like, I don't know, maybe just no.
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: I think you're right because you see like with somebody
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: like Madonna, God bless, like so much filler across here.
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: You know that it looks, anyway, this is not for
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: us to discuss, but it was a lot of shocking faces.
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: And I was glad to say that our ladies, our
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: best friends on this show, our friends, They look the best.
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: They look great.
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: They all look the best. So Harry is there, and
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: he's like, I see Sonya all the time at the bar.
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: She's at table 26, and they're all like, what? She
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: said she doesn't drink. He goes, I see her all
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: the time at table 26 at blah, blah, blah, which
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: later Sonya says is a little family restaurant.
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: Oh. Okay.
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: Then Sonya on the boat says, is saying to everybody, oh,
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: I socialize all the time. I go out. I've got
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: so many men. They're just lined up. And you're like,
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: two scenes back, you said you never go out, never
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: see anybody, never drink, never do anything.
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. It's hard to nail her down. It's like,
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: what is going on? What's the story? Yeah.
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: Both stories are interesting. You know why? Just pick one.
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And if you don't drink, you're not going to
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: be hanging out in a bar. Like, I don't drink.
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: I haven't been to a bar in a million years.
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: Because why would you?
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: That's not where you go Tuesday, Thursday, Friday. Yeah, I agree.
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: Strangely enough, I believe Harry Dubin.
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah. What did you think of him? How old is
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: he now, do you think? Is he like, 70? Is
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: he getting close to there?
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: The fact that he's still got such a libido to
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: be banging around with these.
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he looked a little lost, though, I have to say.
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: He looked a little bit like he stumbled.
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: Onto the scene. Okay, Harry Dubin is only 61. That's...
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: He's nine years younger than Ramona.
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and he seems like a good Decade older.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: He seems a little pickled.
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: A little pickled. So, Kelly, we get this whole boat thing.
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: I loved the boat thing. I loved how Dorinda just
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: got up and walked away from Sonia when she was like, well,
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: you know, it's $ 100, 000, whatever. And she's like, 10 years ago.
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: It's a decade ago. It's ancient history. Like, what do
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: you want me to do about it now? Like, give
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: you $ 200, 000?
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: And do you think she's saying that because they made $ 100, 000
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: an episode and she wasn't on two episodes. But you're
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: saying that even if they're on the episode in any form,
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: they get paid.
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: That's what I've always understood. And they weren't making 100,000
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: episodes because I think at that time they were doing
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: like 20 episodes in total with the reunion. So they
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: weren't making $ 2 million.
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: Not at that time. No, absolutely not. So then we
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: see Kelly– and if you feel that I missed something
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: from the boat party, let me know because I literally
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: just did bullets. We see Kelly and Sonia go to Pilates.
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: I loved it. I loved every minute. I loved– this
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: is– again, I feel like this is sort of the
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: real Sonia.
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, late, kind of just like floating around.
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: And just sort of being fun at Pilates. Yeah. And
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: then in her talking head when she said, if you
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: would have told me three years ago that Kelly Bensimon
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: would be the sleeper head of my life, that she
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: would be the one that's trying to ground me and
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: talk to me. I think Kelly's trying to get her
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: to be like, hey, this actually could be a huge
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: opportunity for you to make money. You need to tell
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: the truth. Don't you feel like Kelly was trying to
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: get to her?
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And when Kelly Bensimon is the voice of reason,
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: because she was– the wacky one back in the day.
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: And now like, it's definitely like Sonia. So, and I, I, this, you.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: See this cup that I have, it's from scary islands.
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: Oh, look. Oh yes.
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: I got this off of Etsy years ago.
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: And I literally this morning went through my coffee cup
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: cabinet to find it. I was like, no, I got
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: to get it.
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: It's so funny. I've got a set from Etsy too. Yeah.
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: Do you, speaking of this, like sidebar, do you think
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: Bethany is going to show up on this show?
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: I think Bethany is going to make a return to
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: either Roni or The Golden Life.
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: And why do you think that?
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: Because I think she misses it. It's getting a lot
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: of press. People are loving it. She's also like a
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: business person. And yeah, she's doing well. But being on
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: TV just does make you more relevant and, you know, Yeah.
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: And she's so good at it. She's so effortlessly good
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: at it that I think she would be great. She
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: would mix in really well. She also, with the new
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: Roni cast, I feel like I don't think any of
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: these OGs would fit in with them if they were
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: to pop some back in, except maybe Dorinda and Bethany.
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: I think Bethany could bit in with them too but
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: i think she's gonna make a return at some point
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: and um the golden life makes sense because she's in
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: florida too so you.
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: Know yeah yeah yeah well um okay so we get
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: them at pilates okay now there's a party at a
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: store um herve.
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: Leger herve leger i mean it's it's these are the
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: kind of things like herve leger that i don't try
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: to say because Um, on this show, you don't know this,
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: but recently I mispronounced enchilada.
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: I said enchilada. And so I, um, have a little
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: bit of Ramona in me. I've just realized that maybe
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: I might say a word wrong, but the difference is,
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: is I realize it right away and try to correct it.
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: Something like Herve Leger or like Hermes or whatever. I'm
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: always like, you're a little bit scared to say it
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: because you don't want to say it wrong. But the
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: funniest thing is they go in and it's like a, um,
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: a pop-up show at their friend's shop. And Ramona is
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: hosting the pop-up show, which is like a sip and shop,
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: which I'm very familiar with, which I love a sip
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: and shop. And Ramona has curated the list. She's a
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: great party giver. She's got the list. She's going to
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: do it. And a random would walk in off the street. Now,
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: we saw the sign on the door, which is literally
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: like a piece of paper taped to the door that said,
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: Private Party Filming in Progress.
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: It apparently did not say do not enter because several
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: people came in because they were probably like, oh, I
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: want to see.
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. So Ramona is hosting a party and she's
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: running security. And I wouldn't want to mess with her.
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: Like I'd be more scared of her than I would
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: be like a six foot four security guard. You don't
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: want to mess with Ramona.
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: Oh, and she goes, don't you see the sign on
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: the door? She was so mean to those.
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: People that came in. She was super mean. Get out.
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: I don't know you. Get out.
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: Do I know you? Were you on the list? Did
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: you RSVP? And I love that Luann was like, oh
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: my God, darling. It's so embarrassing. They were all horrified.
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: Some people never change and I'm glad.
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: But what's better is she got worse.
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: She got worse. And she's meaner. She's snobbier. You know,
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: she's probably making some racial slurs. You know, she's It's bad.
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: It's bad.
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah. It's bad.
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: And should we have her on our TV celebrating her?
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: Probably not. Probably not. I feel a little guilty about it.
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: Oh, my God. It's so funny. So she's acting horrible
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: to anybody that deemed to enter. I don't think they
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: had it marked clearly enough. Private event. Do not enter.
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: But Sonia comes into the event and embarrasses the shit
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: out of Ramona in front of her new Palm Beach friends.
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: And I didn't like it. I didn't like how she was...
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: I don't think a sober person would... If somebody's standing
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: up and saying, I just want to thank all of
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: you for coming, da, da, da, da. I don't think
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: a sober person would purposely knock into your friend and
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: talk over.
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, breaking the glass and stuff. Yeah.
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And woo! And all that at the boat party.
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: I just personally don't think a person who's just drinking
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: water is.
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: Going to be that way. How much do you think
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: it's her? And how much do you think it's like
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: a producer kind of teeing her up before a scene? Like,
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: do you think she is getting instruction? Cause I don't like, I'm,
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure.
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: I don't know if it's like, uh, Oh, make sure
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: to be wacky and make sure you talk to Harry
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: Dubin about your 30 year relationship. He's going to be there.
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: But I don't think they're like, um, Make sure you yell,
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: we always have the best time and fall over and
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: have your cooch up in the air. Like, I don't know.
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: I know. I was worried about that dress and stuff, too.
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: I'm like, Sonia.
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: It's her, you know, it's like Luanne says, she's always
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: on Snatch Card. So Sonia embarrasses Ramona at her event.
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: And then she insults Dorinda by saying, that dress does
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: not look good on you. It is not a good color.
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: Why don't they have other colors? The reason the dress
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: was not the right size is because of her mic pack.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And that's a good color for Dorinda. Dorinda looks
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: good in yellow, I think. I think she looks really
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: good in yellow.
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: I definitely didn't think it was a bad color.
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: No, not at all.
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: And you can sometimes see somebody and be like, I
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: love that dress on you, but not the right color.
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: But I didn't think it was a bad color. And
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: I don't think Dorinda was putting it on like, I'm
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: going to buy... And maybe she did. And maybe on
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: Hot Goss they said she did buy that dress. But
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: I think in her mind, like, she would have to
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: get all of her mic pack accoutrement off in order
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: to see how it fit. And, you know, she could
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: have gone up a size. It did seem a little tight.
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: Did it? I didn't really pick up on that.
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: When she turned around to the back, it was only
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: half zipped.
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: Oh, okay. I didn't see that.
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: But, again, mic pack and, you know, as a lady,
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: we're always like, if I lose two.
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: Pounds, it's going to fit perfectly. I also think that
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: Dorinda might have actually been irritated by Sonia because I
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: listened to Dorinda's radio show and I know that when
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: she got picked up for filming and stuff, it happened
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: really last minute. And getting clothing for all the scenes
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: and stuff was like a stressor for her. So I
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: feel like she actually probably was shopping and was looking
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: for things. And then to have, you know, Sonia start
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: criticizing the things that she was picking, I think it
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: actually did irritate her.
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: You could tell she's very irritated by Sonia and trying
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: not to be.
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: Because even on the boat, when Sonia was like, you know,
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: I just like people one-on-one. You know, I don't, like,
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: I just wanted it to be me and my husband.
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: I don't want all these other people. And, you know,
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: just like Jorinda, I'd love to be with you one-on-one.
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: She goes, I haven't seen you in years.
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: You know, I think she's like, what are you talking about? Like,
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: and that's hard to to call somebody out just flat
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: out to be like okay I haven't you know I
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: think Dorinda is doing her best to not Dorinda flip
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: out on her and be like what are you talking
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: about you.
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: Know yeah it's coming though for sure.
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: It's gotta be coming it's gotta be coming especially if
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: Sonia continues this and just talking with none of it
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: none of it making sense or being the same thing
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: that she said earlier in the same day you know So,
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: you know, what I said was Ramona is, it's funny
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: because she's so awful and it's funny because she never changes.
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: And I like that production is showing this, her going
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: up to people because if it was a housewife show,
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: they may not have shown Ramona doing that, you know?
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. I think, yeah, a lot of times
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: I feel like the network is like, you know, concerned
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: with how people are going to be perceived and would sometimes,
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: you know, they're a lot worse than you see too.
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: I mean, I know that they talk about like the
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: villain edit and stuff, but it's like, you know, I
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: talked to Janet from the Valley and she was saying
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: that Danny was just 10 times worse than what we
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: actually saw. Like Bravo actually added him in a positive way,
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: believe it or not.
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: So, well, yeah. And I think that they did the
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: same for Jack's for years. Yes.
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: You know, you heard them. I mean, the things that
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: you heard him say to Brittany, like, um, you know,
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: you're fat, you drink too much. You're a terrible parent.
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: Like all the, and you've heard him say it. You're like,
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: what's he saying when the cameras, I.
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: Know that always makes me crazy about reality TV is like,
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: you see, sometimes you, you think somebody is terrible, but
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: they're doing all that stuff on camera. They see a camera,
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: they put on a microphone.
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: It's like, I mean, cause you know, you do say
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: a lot, like you never know what happens behind closed doors,
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: but you can say it in your real life and
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: you can say it on TV. If this person acts
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: this way in front of other people what are they
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: doing when other people are around and that's sort of
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: this situation so but it's funny but like ramona is
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: is i mean my note here it's funny because she's
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: so awful and probably if we had jill zarin on
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: we would be getting a similar situation you know yeah
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: okay but i meant to ask you this but rolling
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: back to jill zarin So they had not started filming
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: this show when she had her Bad Bunny post-Super Bowl rant.
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: So she had not filmed at all.
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: No, unless they did some pre-stuff, but it wasn't like.
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: They didn't have like four parties in the can.
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: That they had to mix? No, no, no, no, no.
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: Okay, because that's why I was like, God, I wonder
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: if they had like four events in the can that
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: they had to just act like never happened and then
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: pretend that, you know what I mean?
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah. No, but I think it was just about to
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: film because that was in January.
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: That would make sense. So we go to this dinner.
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: And this dinner, we start off and it's Ramona and
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: Sonia and then these two other people that I guess
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: Ramona has deemed okay to sit at their table. I
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: don't know if it was the yacht broker, but it
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: was two women sitting there. And Sonia what is she
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: even talking about? My boyfriend, this and that, and something
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: about her vagina. And you're like, boyfriend, what are you
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: talking about?
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: Like literally, what are you talking about?
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, it gets a little bit sad with her. Um,
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: I just, I just want her to do well. I
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: worry about her financially and, I'm happy that she's on
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: the show. I hope it goes for a solid five seasons.
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: I hope he pays them really well. I hope she
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: parlays it into some sort of sponsorship or something. I
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: hope that she's able to make some sort of business
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: out of it. I mean, she's so entertaining. She's so funny.
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: I feel like somebody should hire her for their product
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: or something. Yeah.
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: Where's the toaster oven?
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: I know. I would totally have bought a toaster oven
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: from her.
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: If she was going to do the toaster oven with
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: the cookbook of like meals you could do for one
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: or two people in a toaster oven, would it change
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: my life?
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: Yes, she could. I mean, I just feel like there's
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: so many opportunities and I just feel like she got
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: in her own way. Totally.
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: But you know what?
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: Okay. Idea.
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: Steal it. I would like for somebody to steal it
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: and send it to Sonia. Because now toaster ovens are
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: kind of out and air fryers are in.
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: She should do– we should definitely see her in her
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: place with her air fryer saying, you know, I don't
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: do the toaster oven anymore because now it's an air
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: fryer because now you can do everything in the air fryer.
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: And then because air fryer– everybody wants an air fryer
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: and everybody wants like a small one that doesn't sound
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: like a rocket taking off of your car. Speaking for myself,
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: I've had two because the first one was too loud.
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: This is totally what she should pivot into.
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: A toaster oven and a cookbook for toaster ovens. I mean,
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: so sorry. So air fryer– Cookbook for air fryers.
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: So what's like the popular band, popular brand of air fryers?
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: There's a Cuisinart one.
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: Ninja, I think. Yeah. Can one of you guys please
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: hire Sonia? That would be a really funny commercial. It
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: would go viral on Instagram. Like, come on, you guys.
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: Come on.
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: Come on. Number one, give her a free air fryer.
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: Number one.
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe even do like a Sonia edition and it
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: can be like pink glitter or something or something fancy
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: that pops on the countertop.
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: It has a little logo of like a little crown
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: on it.
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, something. Make something cute.
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: Okay, please. Cuisinart, Ninja, somebody, reach.
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: Out to Sonia. I feel like Ninja would do something
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: like that.
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: I would love it. I would love it.
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: Come on, Ninja. Give Sonia an air fryer.
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: Yes. Yes.
• 35:36
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• 35:37
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• 35:39
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  Speaker 1: want the sponsorship for her, but now we have to
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  Speaker 1: go back to saying what was happening at this dinner.
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: Ramona doesn't seem to be trying to control her or, like,
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: she was mad at her at the event because she was,
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: you know, talking over her and stuff, which was really rude.
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: Even though Ramona's annoying, that was really rude that she
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: was doing that at the event. But Ramona doesn't seem
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: to be bothered by the stories that she's telling or
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: the fact that she appears to be pouring some sort
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: of shot into her mocktail that she, it's orange, so
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: maybe you're supposed to think it's orange juice, but come on.
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: They're showing it on camera, I think, to let you
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: know what's happening, you know?
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't think she's a sober person, but, you know.
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: But Ramona, it was interesting that at that dinner, she's like, oh,
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: my God, girl, you're so funny. And she's doing that
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: whole thing, and she's not correcting her. She seems to
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: be in a much better mood. And I wonder if
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: that's because Ramona didn't feel so, like, Palm Beach stuffy
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: as she did at the store. where she felt like
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: these are like my ladies who lunch friends. And now
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: these are my nighttime go out party friends.
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: But they arrived.
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: Now Luann arrives with her, her hairdresser, her hairdresser's boyfriend
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: and her assistant. Now these are her, these are her
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: gaggle of gays. These are her besties. They're all apparently
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: living with her there in Palm beach. She says, and
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: probably she's like, darling, I'm going to film this show.
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: They're giving me a three bedroom condo. Why don't you
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: guys just come?
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. For sure. And she's just.
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: Giving them a place to live for three months in
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: Palm Beach and probably paying them very little. But she's like,
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: every time I go somewhere, you can go somewhere. Production
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: will pay for it.
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And then by having them there, she's probably saving
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: on her hair and makeup and all that stuff. Yeah,
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: for sure. Yeah. Yes.
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: So she shows up with her three gays plus Michael,
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: her boyfriend. And this is her group. This is her team.
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: And- Ramona is immediately like, no, no, no, no. I
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: told you, no, I told you, no, I told you
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: you could invite one person, one person. It's Michael. I said,
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: you can bring a plus one, one. And it had
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: to be like, she didn't, she didn't even say like,
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: you can bring a plus one. It's like, you could
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: bring a plus one. It has to be Michael. So
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: she walks in with these three extra people. Now Luann
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: did not hear it was a dinner, but it was
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: a restaurant. But I think, you know, she, she said,
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: you know, and I think this happens a lot in Miami.
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: when the dinner service is over at like 11, it
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: turns into a nightclub and you can dance on the
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: tables and stuff with the sparklers, which she later calls sprinklers.
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: I caught that too.
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: Look at the sprinklers. The sprinklers are coming out. They're beautiful.
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: They're beautiful, the sprinklers. But what is your thought on
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: that about Luann bringing three extra people? I think it's fine.
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: No matter who they are.
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: I think it's fine. It's a party. There's a lot
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: of people there. I think Ramona gets irritated though because–
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: She doesn't want them sitting at the table. She doesn't
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: want them filming. She doesn't want them distracting from the
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: scene because I also think, you know, she's been doing
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: this for so long. She just doesn't want that extra
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: kind of fluff in there because they want to get
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: the scenes done and go home. You know, it is
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: a job. They're clocked in.
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: That's a great point. That's a great point. She wants,
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: she's like, it is 1030 and I would like to
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: go to bed.
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So I don't, I mean, I think she's rude
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: and all that stuff too. But I also think that
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: she is doing a job and to have extra kind
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: of people there can delay what they have to get done.
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: You know, there's a point of every scene.
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: You're right. I didn't think about that. I was just like,
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: she's so awful. And she's like, I don't even know
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: their names. They're staff. You're staff. This is staff. You're
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: paying them. They're staff. It's like, oh, my God.
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: Luanne's like, stop that. These are my friends. Like, stop.
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: I mean– And that is so rude to be like,
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: I don't know your name, your staff, go to the bar.
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: I mean, and sweet, the little, the littlest gay.
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: The little one, the little one, Roger.
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: He was like, girl.
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he was probably the bitchier of all of them.
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: He's the one that you probably wouldn't want to mess
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: with because he was getting aggravated. He was getting activated
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: for sure.
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: I loved it. I thought it was hilarious because, you know,
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: he probably went in there like, this is my moment,
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: you know?
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And I think also, I think Ramona is going
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: to pick up on that too. And she sees like
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: three gay guys kind of like coming towards the table
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: and she's like, Oh no, Oh no, you guys turn around.
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: This is not about you. Also. I don't think, I mean,
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: Ramona probably doesn't want Luann to come into a scene
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: with like three allies behind her. Like she doesn't, you know,
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: she doesn't want that. And Ramona, Ramona was, by herself.
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: I mean, she invited people, but they weren't like, you know,
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: attached to her. Yeah.
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: I mean, she had those two, but it's, but it's her,
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: it's her event.
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: It's her event.
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: It's my event. So she tells Luann's three guys like, no, no,
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: go to the bar. And Luann's like, darling, you said
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: it was a party. Now we did go, I was
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: hoping they would roll back and show us the scene.
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: And they did. And she didn't say it's a dinner,
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: but she did say it's at this restaurant and bring
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: one person, bring one person. Now, I think Luann could
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: have brought the three guys and just said, you guys
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: hang out at the bar and let me figure out
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: what's going on first. Because maybe I do have to
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: sit down and film, like, dinner.
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah. You know?
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: But she just walked up to the table. And let
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: me tell you something. If you have a table for
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: ten and three extra people walk up, you don't have
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: a place for them to sit, you know?
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: Exactly. And honestly, you know, I'm gay. I'm going to– I,
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: you know– like support my gay brothers in arms. But,
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: you know, they don't belong at the table. They're not
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: cast members. They're not friends of, you know, they shouldn't
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: be sitting at the table.
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: Well, it was kind of rude for Luann to invite
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: three extra people.
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: For sure.
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: You can only bring one. But again, if she wanted
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: to bring them because it was going to pop off
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: later and be a party, be like, you guys hang
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: at the bar and when I'm done, I'll come back over.
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: She didn't have to bring them over for drama.
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: But maybe she's like, Maybe I will because it'll be
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: funny because it'll make Ramona look horrible because she'll– Yeah.
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: She doesn't know their names. She's met them a hundred–
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: not– there's not one person ever that you could run
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: across that has not said the exact same thing about Ramona. Yeah.
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: That she remembers no one's name unless it's important to her.
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: So she will– you know, Bethany said that. Like, Bethany's like,
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: I've had the same assistant for 12 years. And she's like, anyway,
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: that girl that works for you, you know? She's just,
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: you know, it's just like we would see her on
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: Real Housewives and she would go up to the staff
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: and be like, what about the staff? And they're going
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: to unpack my bags.
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: Unpack this.
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: She just, it's like Lou Anne, I think, said she's classist.
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: She's allegedly racist. She's homophobic. You know, she's, we won't know.
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: She's ignorant. Yeah, for sure. Okay. Yeah.
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: I think, yeah, ignorant's a great word.
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: But here she is on our TV. So anyway. In
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: my opinion at this dinner, Sonia did not seem all
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: of her faculties with her. And Lou Anne was like,
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: why is your face so red?
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that was weird. What was that about?
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: I think all of a sudden she got very flush.
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: You know, and it's sort of like if you have
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: red wine, maybe you get flushed or– because nobody else
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: was like sweating or hot. Everybody seemed to be like
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: in long sleeves, you know?
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that was weird.
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: I don't– I'm– Mixing up a medication and.
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: I remember one time, I've never smoked in my life,
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: but a lot of creative people will take the nicotine
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: lozenges because it will give you so much energy. So
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: I was like, I'll try that. I tried it and
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: I got a head to toe red rash. Really?
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: Did it go away when it wore off?
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but it was like- I felt hot everywhere and
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: I thought I was going to pass out for sure. Yeah.
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'll get hot. I mean, and again, I'm
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: speaking as a lady of a certain age, we do
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: get hot and flush like really quick, but it really
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: will be because you had a glass of wine and
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: all of a sudden like your cheeks are hot. That
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: really does happen. And so in my, in my experience,
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: it could have been that she took something before she came.
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: And then had a drink and it made her very
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: flush because it didn't seem to last. But she's just like,
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: I'm just so overstimulated with all these people.
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: And we're like, okay.
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: But Luann was very much like, darling, what's wrong with
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: your face, darling? You know?
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: And Luann was, I felt like Girls Trip, I liked it.
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: I enjoyed it. She was a little insufferable there, but
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: she seems more lucid. At least, I mean, this is
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: only episode one, but she does seem more lucid.
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: She doesn't seem so narcissistic.
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, or scattered. Like, she was so scattered in the
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: girl's trip.
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: She just seems more focused on the job at hand. Okay,
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: here's my note. Ramona once again yells at Luann's assistants.
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: Sonia's not sober. And surprisingly, surprisingly, Dorinda does not seem shit-faced.
• 49:11
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: At all.
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: And Luann.
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: Not either. Now, I was about to say maybe she's
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: on her best behavior because her boyfriend's there, but we
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: saw how she acted. when her boyfriend was on Ultimate
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: Girl's Trip. But my God, I mean, Luann's been filming
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: all year.
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Luann, like, she's back.
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: She's doing all the shows.
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: She's back.
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: But I felt that she was actually kind of trying
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: to look out for Sonya a little bit. Like, girl,
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: are you okay?
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah. You know?
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: And then, of course, you know, Sonya goes to the
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: bathroom and I don't know who it was that went
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: with her. I think it was maybe production because it
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: was a woman. And she's just like, you know, I'm farting.
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: I'm going to poop my pants. I'm like, what is
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: with these women and their digestive systems?
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah. She should get a probiotic sponsorship. Like, come on.
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: All of them. It can be sponsored by the OG cast.
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: She needs a probiotic. She needs something. to keep her
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: regular because no matter what happens, she's always got some
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: sort of bathroom issue.
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and throwing up in the sink, like, ugh.
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: Did we need to see that?
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: We did not need to see that.
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: Did we need to see that? And for her to say,
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: to make myself burp, I stick my finger down my throat?
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: No, that's not a thing. That's not a thing.
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: And also, take a gas ex. I mean, it's just
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: pretty easy. Like, if you feel like you're gassy, take
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: a gas ex.
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: She needs to have them in all her pockets. So
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: the first episode ends with Luann getting mad because Ramona
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: and Sonya are trying to be funny and kind of
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: recreate their old days of where Ramona and Sonya would, like,
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: get drunk together and, like, fight over guys and stuff.
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: But they're rubbing all over Luann's boyfriend, like, lifting his
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: shirt up and putting their hand on his butt and stuff.
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: I was like, okay.
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, way too much. Way too much.
• 51:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: I would be furious, too, if I was Luann. I
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: would be mad. I'd be like, stop touching my guy.
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: It's okay to dance.
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah. That's dirty dancing. Very dirty.
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: And did she say they were sexually harassing him? I
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: was trying to remember what phrase she used.
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: Yes. Yeah. She said, you are sexually harassing him.
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: And then that's how they end with her being mad.
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: And we get a lot of quick clips of the season.
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: And it does seem they go on some sort of
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: trip and Ramona– I mean, sorry. Sonia says, I feel
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: comfortable enough with you all that I'm going to be
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: able to let loose. So does that mean like she's
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: going to pretend like this is her first drink she's had?
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: Oh, gosh.
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: Okay. But I also want to talk about the little
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: show they had afterward called Hot Goss.
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: Who are these guys? Do you know these guys?
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: I don't know these guys. It's like the short clips
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: have popped up in like my Instagram algorithm before. So
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: I've seen it.
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: It is a show on E that they do otherwise,
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: or it's not just for this?
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: No, no, they've done this before. They've interviewed lots of
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: actors and stuff too. So I think it's part of
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: like E news kind of thing.
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I've definitely, I've seen them do interviews with
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: like lots of people. Yeah. Okay. In their towels. And
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: I was very, I was like, are you guys wearing
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: stuff under the towels? Like I'm concerned with like, what's
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: going to come popping out.
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: And they're definitely in tidy whiteys under the towels and
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: they definitely have them oiled up.
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: Oh, they're so oiled up. I felt like at one
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: point he got more oiled. Like he went from one
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: and then you cut back to him and he's even greasier.
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: It's like they do a commercial break and they just
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: pour oil all over them. They're pretending to be in
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: a sauna because no person in their right mind would
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: film in a sauna, so you look like shit. So
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: it's a funny idea. There's no steam, so they have
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: these two guys that look like they're sweating in a
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: sauna just from the neck down, not on their faces.
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: And they had Luann and Sonia on. So I guess
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: they're going to do this after every episode.
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: And Sonia was funny.
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: She's hilarious. She's so funny. She was definitely on. She
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: was cracking up everybody behind the camera. You heard them
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: laughing like a studio audience. She's hilarious. Yeah.
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: It was funny. It was good. She didn't seem... drunk
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: or weird, you know, but what did you think about
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: the little interstitials where they were doing? Cause I watched
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: the eight o'clock. I assume they did it for the
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: next one, but they had them, the cast on camera,
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: like coming up next, you know, life is golden. Did
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: you see all that?
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: I didn't. I was fast forwarding through the commercials. I
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: think I missed that or it wasn't in, I think
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: I saw the 10 PM showing. I don't know if
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: it was in that.
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: Okay, so this must have been in the preview version
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: that I watched at 8. I mean, I texted you.
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: I was like, I can't stay up until 12. What
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: am I going to do? Because yesterday I had to
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: wake up at 4.15 because I flew home from Mississippi.
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: And I was like, I have got to go to bed.
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: So I was so happy that I watched the 8 o'clock.
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: So the 8 o'clock version, they had all of them.
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: Ramona looked great, by the way. She was on the
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: back row. But they were reading so obviously from a
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: prompter or cue cards. because the way that their eyes
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: were like darting, you know, Luann was the least obvious
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: of all. They had her in the front center chair
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: and they had each of them obviously saying like, are
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: you enjoying the show? Like Palm beach is so amazing.
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: Stay tuned. And then, you know, Ramona would be like,
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: let's get golden. You know? Yeah.
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: I did not see that at all. I guess that
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: must've been the 8 PM.
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: It must've just been, they were just doing that, but
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: it was, So funny because you're trying to see, especially
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: Sonia trying to look at a cue card, which was
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: obviously directly in front of them. So they told them,
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: read your line, look at the cue card, but be
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: looking at the camera because they're both like, they're all doing,
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: like their eyes were moving so frenetically up and down.
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: And like I said, Luann did the best. She did
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: the best of making it look like she wasn't reading something.
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: But they were, these are not seasoned cue card people.
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: teleprompter readers.
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: What do you think about Kelly Ben Simone being part
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: of it? I feel like, I don't know. I mean,
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: I like her and everything, but it, I think.
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: She deserves to be there.
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: I do. And I, it's hard for me. I waver
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: on that a little bit. Um, let me tell you
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: something funny about Kelly.
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: So Kelly's daughter, um, went to Ole Miss where I went,
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: my whole family went and my, um, son goes to
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: college currently. So I was there, um, this weekend and
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: I was, you know, the Ole Miss is known for
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: their tailgating. We were in the Grove and we were
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: at our tent and there's these people there. It's somebody
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: I grew up with and he lives in New York now.
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: And we were chatting about, when you tell people you're
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: a podcaster, the reaction is like, that's fun. Oh, you know,
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: like that's, you know, that's not a real job. Kind
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: of a, or people are like super interested and want
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: to know like, how does it work with ads? How
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: often do you do it? Because people listen to podcasts
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: and they really sort of want to know how it
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: all works. So this person that I know from my
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: childhood and his daughter, we were talking. Daughter, you know,
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: in her 20s. And they were asking me, like, what
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: shows I cover. Some of them they really like on
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: TLC and stuff. And I was like, but Thursdays, if you're,
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: most people are interested. I was like, Thursday I cover Bravas.
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: And then they kind of perk up. So he said,
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: he goes, are you covering that new show with KKB?
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: And I go, Kelly Killian-Bensimon? And he said, yeah. He goes, yeah,
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: she's around because he lives in New York. And I said, well,
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: you know, her daughter went here to Ole Miss. And
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: she would go into stores in Oxford, Mississippi, Jason. Go
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: into stores. And of course, she's tall and beautiful. And
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: she would, I think, kind of want to be recognized.
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: And it wasn't happening. Because people are like, you're not
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: Southern famous. You're just famous. Yeah, you know? weren't giving
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: her the attention she probably thought she would get if
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: she was in New York.
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Cause when you really think about it, like she
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: only did what three seasons of the original show.
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: I was going to say three. Yeah.
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Cause she came in season two.
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: She's most famous for this, for Scary Island.
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And that was a long time ago. That was,
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: was it like 2011 or something or 12 when she left?
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: So that's a long time ago. She had a, a
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: short stint on the, the girls trip, but that's about it. Like,
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: so she's not famous, famous, really, but I like it,
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: but I like season three.
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: It was season three.
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: Season.
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: And then, so I do, I do believe she filmed
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: season four as well.
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: So she probably did two, three, four.
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah. She did two, three, four. Cause four was the
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: one where they went to Morocco and that's, and then
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: after that season, they got rid of like three of the. Yeah. Yes.
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: Um, It's a great episode, guys, if you don't know it.
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: If you are new to the Bravo, what are you
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: doing with your life? You got to go watch the scary...
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: Just watch that. Watch the one before and the one after.
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like a three-episode arc, and it's like classic
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: reality television.
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: I mean, if you remember, she's like, Al Sharpton.
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: I know. She lost her mind.
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and they sent her home. Yeah.
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I think that she just... And she seems to
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: be over it now, but I think back in the
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: day she was so concerned with how she would be
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: looked at and how people would look at her. at
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: her that she was just way too in her head
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: and she just ended up looking crazy.
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: I mean, and I think the reason, because I think
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: your point is valid is like, should she be there? What,
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: you know, you think of like the OGs, you think
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: of Bethany, Jill, Ramona. But I think because she's such
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: in the lore world, And I think because she is
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: such a New Yorker that they do probably see her socially. Yeah. She's,
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: you know, I think she's a smidge younger than them,
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: you know? I think she's more in the Carol Radswell
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: age range.
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: You know, probably like early fifties instead of late fifties,
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: you know, sixties.
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: But I thought she did great on this show. I
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: think she was very herself. I felt like she wasn't
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: like you're saying, trying to, be something, you know?
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I think she's just a lot more comfortable than
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: she was back then, you know? And she's doing great.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: Like she sold something like $ 50 million worth of real
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: estate in like three months or something. She's really like
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: exploding on that front. Like it's pretty impressive. Yeah.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: Her and Megan King Edmonds.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: I mean, I know not a fan of Megan King Edmonds.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: Megan King Edmonds just living in New York city as
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: if she does not have three children.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: I don't, I mean, because I know her ex got
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: custody of the kids and maybe she just sees them
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: in the summer and maybe she's like, this is the
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: life I always wanted. I don't know.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. I know. It's not great. I never, I
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: was never a fan of hers. She always kind of
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: just irked me a little bit.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: I was a fan of hers because of the Megan
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: King Edmonds detective agency.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: I'm like anybody who's going to do a deep dive
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: and try to uncover something.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I like that she did that, but I still
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: never thought that she fit in with Orange County at all.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: She was always like how Dorinda would say, the turnip
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: in the fruit basket. Megan King Edmonds was the turnip
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: in the fruit basket of Orange County.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: Okay, that's hilarious. That's hilarious. Well, overall, I'm glad because
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: you reached out and you're like, I want to come
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: back on and do this show I want to discuss.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: And I was like, perfect. Because I would have watched it,
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: but I probably wouldn't have been like, I got to
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: make sure my DVR is set. Unless you would have
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: reached out to remind me of it.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: I'm so excited about that.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: It's now on my DVR. It'll be recorded because I'm
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: going out of town soon and it'll all be ready
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: for me when I get back. I'll do a binge.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: It'll be amazing. So I do appreciate you kind of
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: prodding me on it.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I was like, oh my gosh, I got to
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: talk to somebody about it. Even....
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: Ramona, who I'm pretty sure would be mean to me.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm 100% sure she would be mean to me.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: Even Ramona, I'm glad to see her stupid racist aspect.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I know I feel a little guilty about my
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: affection towards her, but- We all do.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: We all do. Torn.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: I know. But I do find her entertaining. I like
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: the psychology of it. I like analyzing it. I like
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: You know, like I can, I'm pretty, cause I'm a writer.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: I can kind of like drop myself into characters. And
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: so like, even when the thing where she's getting so
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: mad about Luann bringing the gaze over, like I also
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: can drop myself in there and be like, okay, she's
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: not being completely rude. It's because she has a job.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: She doesn't want people to make that job last longer.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: It's like, I waited tables for 20 years. Right. You
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: do not like when somebody comes in five minutes until
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: the kitchen's supposed to close. So that means you have
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: to work like an hour, hour and a half more.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: Nobody likes that. Nobody likes their job being extended longer
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 2: than it needs to be.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: I just didn't think about it like that. But she
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: didn't have to be such an asshole to those guys
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: and be like, your staff, your staff.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: Right. Well, that's her default. So she just drops into
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: that really easily.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: You're beneath me because you work here. Yeah.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: We could talk about that all day.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: Tell everybody where they can follow you and where they
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: can get your book and all this. I have your book.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: I believe it is. It's back here in my book
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: stack under my lamp.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: There's my book, Zombies of the Upper East Side. It's
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: a horror comedy. It's super funny.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: It is.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: The reviews are great. It's really building a lot right now.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: I'm doing a lot of appearances and a lot of
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: media stuff has come up. recently, which is exciting. I
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: love talking about it. It's a horror comedy, but it's
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: as funny as it is scary. If you are a
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: Bravo watcher, you're going to pick up on a lot
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: of Easter eggs because when I was researching the book,
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: I was focused on the Upper East Side and the
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: early seasons of Roni are definitely like Upper East Side related.
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 2: So there might be some characters that are similar to
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: people that you're familiar with on the show. Lots of
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 2: Easter eggs. So the book is doing great. So buy
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  Speaker 2: the book. You can get it everywhere online. It's starting
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  Speaker 2: to pop up into bookstores, but every bookstore has the
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: ability to order it and keep it in stock. So
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: just go to your local bookstore, say that you want it.
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  Speaker 2: They'll order it. Leave reviews wherever you bought the book.
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  Speaker 2: If you have a minute, leave a review on Goodreads
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  Speaker 2: because that's really important.
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  Speaker 1: I love Goodreads.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. So the book is doing great. It's building a lot.
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  Speaker 2: I also just started my own podcast. It's called Slay Replay.
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  Speaker 2: It's centered on a rewatch of Buffy the Vampire Slayer
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  Speaker 2: from the beginning, but it's not just Buffy. It's like horror.
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  Speaker 2: It's campy stuff. It's some reality TV as well, and
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  Speaker 2: that's fun, and I'm figuring that out. I just did... Well,
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  Speaker 2: I'm posting it today, but it's the... pilot presentation of Buffy,
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  Speaker 2: which was never seen. So I'm posting an episode of that.
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  Speaker 2: I also, so the Buffy reboot was canceled on ceremoniously
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  Speaker 2: from Hulu, but I found the script. And so I'm
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  Speaker 2: going to be reading the script and that'll be my
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  Speaker 2: next episode too.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my goodness.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So lots of fun stuff. That's a sleigh replay available everywhere. You,
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  Speaker 2: you know, get your podcast.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. Amazing.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: So sleigh replay and, um, Don't forget about the book,
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: Zombies Up.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm on Instagram at Jason Zephyr, Z-E-F-F-I-R.
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  Speaker 1: You're killing it on Instagram. You need to tell me
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: all your secrets. You need to tell me all your secrets.
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  Speaker 2: You're doing well, too. I see all your stuff.
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  Speaker 1: Not quite. Not quite. Everybody, make sure you're following Jason.
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  Speaker 1: Go buy the book. Listen to the podcast, all the things.
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  Speaker 1: And please follow me at PinkShadePod on Instagram. And I
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: appreciate it. And I think that's it. That's it for
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  Speaker 1: this week for me for the free feed episodes. You guys,
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  Speaker 1: if you are subscribed, you'll get 90 Day Hunt for
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  Speaker 1: Love on Friday. And you should have gotten Welcome to
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: Plotville on Wednesday. These are my subscriber episodes right now.
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  Speaker 1: But Bravo is always free because everyone.
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  Speaker 2: Should be able to enjoy. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you, Jason.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you. Bye. Bye.