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Gizz Lazlo of For Closure & Mike Williamson of Jr. Juggernaut talk New Albums and Tour on The Hang! · The Hang! As Seen On Almost Famous Magazine!

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  Hey everybody, welcome back to The Hang right here on Almost Famous Magazine.
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  And as usual, we have a wide variety of artists.
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  and creatives that join us.
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  Now, today we're gonna do something a little bit different, a little exciting.
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  We're gonna learn a lot, we're gonna wing it.
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  But in the midst of it, if you notice, we have our old friend Gizz Lazlo, who's in every band that has a real estate name on the planet.
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  Currently Foreclosure, I'm still coming up with more names.
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  And Mike Williamson of Junior Juggernaut.
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  They are embarking,
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  Really soon, like I think, I don't know in a couple of days on a West coast run, it's a run because as everyone learned the last time we talked to Gizz, if it's not 32 countries
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  and 95 dates, it's not a tour.
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  It's a run.
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  So they had an upcoming West coast run.
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  They're to start off in Bakersfield.
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  Then they're heading to Sacramento, Oakland, Lawndale, San Diego, LA, and they're going to wrap it up in Ventura.
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  So,
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  supporting their albums.
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  Junior Juggernaut's got an album that's been out for a little while.
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  We're gonna learn about another big explosion, another big explosion, and Foreclosures' album that's coming out.
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  Gizz, is it the eighth?
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  Is it the eighth of November?
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  The eighth of November.
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  Cliffside Serenades.
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  We're gonna learn, we're gonna have a lot of fun tonight.
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  So guys, thank you for joining me, and Mike, it's great to meet you.
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  Good to meet you too, man.
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  Thanks for having me, Scott.
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  Absolutely any friend of Gizz's is friend of mine.
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  that's ooh Well, you know what?
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  How do you get on Gizz's bad side because I I I'm gonna tell you he's one of the happiest people I've ever met So how what is the key to getting on Gizz's bad side?
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  Let's get that out of the way before you guys end up in a rental van together driving around, California
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  I'm gonna say the way to get on his bad side is probably to not respond to the million reels he sends you on Instagram randomly.
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  Wait, so it's not just me.
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  It's not just me.
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  OK.
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  It's funny and it's about a guitar player.
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  I gotta send it
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  know.
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  Wait a minute, he gets the guitar ones.
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  We just do ones that are liquor and cats.
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  That's awesome.
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  That's awesome.
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  How long have you guys known each other?
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  Not too long, I would say under a year.
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  Yeah, we just met through our bands share a drummer and that's sort of how we met is through the shared drummer between us.
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  which half of the drummer do you use?
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  Does Junior Juggernaut get?
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  And which half of the drummer does Foreclosure get?
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  I get the good one.
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  Like, like, like it's, you know, they say that the average family is 2.6 children.
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  You gotta love the kid who might be missing an appendage just as much.
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  I know that's an awful joke, but please don't turn away.
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  They get better, right?
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  Yes.
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  So, so you, who's drinking tonight?
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  So, so, so you guys met about a year ago.
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  Tell us how this tour came up.
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  I'm sorry, this run came about and some of the things you guys are looking forward to doing when you're playing together.
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  Yes, you want to take it?
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  Go for it.
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  How did the tour come about?
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  Well, like I said, we share a drummer and then we share a label.
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  Mind Power Records, both of our records are on that label and the owner of that label is in Foreclosure.
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  And so it only makes sense, you know, from a lot of standpoints really.
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  I think when I first heard Foreclosure while our drummer played me,
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  Actually, guess it was he said, I'm in this band.
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  Do you want to record a solo on one of the songs?
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  And he he's he sent it to me and I thought it was awesome.
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  I thought it was a really great song.
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  I was really impressed by it.
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  You're the guy who did the lute solo?
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  Yeah, exactly.
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  No, yeah, I did a flute.
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  I did my yeah.
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  But I just instantly felt a connection to their style of music, you know, like real strong songwriting and real like passionate and intense and rocking and all the things I really
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  like.
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  And
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  Wanted to start playing shows with them like anytime I find a band that I dig a lot I want to kind of like buddy up with just to be band buddies and Initially wall said no he wasn't
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  gonna play two sets at one night and I was like come on you big baby and then and then we Booked a tour to I'm calling it a tour.
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  I'm sorry, but it's a tour to me
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  Ooh, how do okay, now we're back to how do you get on Gizz's bad side?
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  Calling a run a tour.
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  Yeah.
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  So yeah, I mean, we both had records coming out within like a couple months of each other and we're on the same label and we're both here together.
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  We can save on equipment by sharing equipment together, sharing band members together, and it would just made a lot of sense to.
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  play some shows together.
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  Well, the one drummer doesn't need two separate rooms.
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  So just cause he's in different bands.
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  So you save on a hotel fees.
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  So, you know, let's, let's spend a little while.
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  I've never, I'll be honest.
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  I've never heard Junior Juggernaut.
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  Tell me and everyone watching like what's your band like, what's it about?
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  You know, what kind of music you're, you're playing and, and, and your creative side a little bit.
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  Let's get to know the band.
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  Yeah, Junior Junior, I mean, would say broadly, it's like alternative rock.
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  It's, you know, we get a lot of Husker Dew, Sugar, Goo Goo Dolls, Dinosaur Junior comparisons, that kind of thing, like big guitar sounds, big hooky songs, noisy, but
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  melodic.
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  And I don't know, that's sort of like the
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  the theme, you know, it's like we get thrown like 90s alt rock sort of as the sound.
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  And that's, know, when I started playing guitar, so that only makes sense that that's just sort of my DNA is, you know, a distortion pedal with melody, you know, which you kind of
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  we've kind of drifted away from distortion pedals in in rock like big noisy stuff with melody.
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  But I
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  can't shake it, so that's sort what we do.
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  You know, it's interesting that you mention that.
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  Is it me?
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  And correct me if I'm wrong, Giznos he can.
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  We've really kind of homogenized sound lately, haven't we?
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  Like, is it me or is just like somebody hits on a sound and you hear it over and over again?
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  like, yeah, that's nice, it's a different song, but it kind of all sounds the same.
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  So I love the fact that you're big on distortion.
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  I mean, you get...
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  great range, you get an opportunity to make some noise and really kind of cut through in ways that I don't think a lot of people are doing these days.
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  What are your thoughts?
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  Yeah, I mean, I feel like...
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  I mean, I feel like popular music is always homogenized, even if it's really good.
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  Like I think 90s alternative rock, those bands all do kind of sound the same also.
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  You there is a thing going on where someone did it then they all started kind it's like the thing to do.
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  You know, the Pixies, you know, and then people go from there.
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  I just prefer my rock, like, you know, 60s.
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  Every band kind of sounds like, Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young, they had this folk rock thing going on.
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  80s, know, there's all the hair metal bands have, you know, like fist pumping girl choruses.
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  So there's always like whatever's popular, people fall in line behind it, but it doesn't mean they're bad.
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  You know what I mean?
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  It just is the style of the day.
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  I just happen to prefer really visceral rock.
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  And that to me is...
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  volume and noise and I also really like a nice melody and that's you don't really get that from a lot of bands today you know if you have like a melodic rock band it's gonna be
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  today pretty it's not gonna be rough around the edges it's definitely gonna be you you know whatever but I like
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  fighting with the song a little bit, you know what I mean?
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  I like a little bit of a struggle with trying to get a hold of it, feeling like it's, you gonna get out of control a little bit.
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  Cool.
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  Now is another big explosion your first album or do you have some other albums out?
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  no, that's our fourth album.
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  We have been around a while.
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  Our first one came out 2008, Ghost Poison.
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  Then we had one called Wake, 2012.
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  Then we had one called Witch's Hand, 2016.
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  And then after a little bit of a hiatus, another big explosion here this year.
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  I well Gizz knows there's a little there's a little bit of a theme with those first three albums at least in the titles right I mean first of all every one of them should have
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  dropped on Halloween for sure right should not have been like it's not a like doesn't doesn't resonate a springtime album to me hey here's summer fun songs it's more like hey
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  let's get ready for Halloween and get Elvira on the cover for those who know that reference so but like what's the evolution of the sound like
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  when people see you on this upcoming run, how has the sound evolved and the songwriting evolved over the four albums?
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  I think from our first album to now, our first album was maybe a little rootsier.
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  Like, it was, I was very much thinking of us as like mixing like Tom Petty with 90s alt rock or Neil Young with that kind of stuff.
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  And that pops up still song, I would say sort of just the
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  bombast of alt rock has eaten up a bunch of that now and we still play stuff from our first record but I think even from our second record it was kind of getting eaten up in
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  just more like straightforward noisy power pop you know melodic rock like who's screw you and stuff like that but definitely our first record has
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  some Rootsier stuff on it.
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  mean, a couple of songs you might even call like country rock or alt country, something like that.
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  But I always looked at it like as Lemonheads, do Graham Parsons covers, you know, and stuff like this.
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  So I never thought of us as an alt country band, but we were on a label that had a bunch of those kinds of bands on it.
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  So we got a little bit.
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  grouped in with that, even though we still had like the Marshall stacks.
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  And I remember in fact, one of our shows, there was a, an alt country scene here in LA and they would, I can't remember the woman's name.
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  She would book shows like the Echo and she came to see us because you know, she'd heard we were an alt country band.
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  And I remember distinctively her walking out after like two songs and saying, that's not a country band.
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  Because you know, it was loud and big solos and stuff like that.
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  So that has always been there.
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  But now I'm really just the purity of where I originally came from, which is alt rock.
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  That's just sort of what I grew up on and what's in my hands and heart as far as it's not...
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  It's not any sort of preconceived notion.
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  It's just sort of what comes out of me when I strap on a guitar, you know.
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  Well, I mean, if you guys kind of started off and were mistaken or qualified into that country vein, you should dust off some of those from the first album, because you're
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  playing Bakersfield first time out on the road.
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  we still play songs from that first out.
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  We still play two or three songs off that first record.
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  it's all Junior Juggernaut to me.
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  But that's sort of like, if you're going to talk about the differences, it was more of like an Americana alt rock thing.
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  And then it was beaten into submission by my pedal board.
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  That's awesome.
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  As someone who hasn't seen the band perform live, and I'm gonna go out on a limb and think that you started to formulate your set list, if I'm coming to a show, give me two or three
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  highlights that are gonna get me to that show.
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  what are a couple of the songs that I really wanna look out for or some of the moments in the set that are just like gonna blow my mind.
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  Well, I'm going to the single off the new album, Everything I Touch would be something to, you know, check out and maybe the first song on the record, Come Break My Heart.
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  think it's a good sort of like mission statement for the band.
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  you like listen to that, you sort of like get it.
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  You know what I mean?
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  I'd say those two, you know, listen to the new record.
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  The set's going to be new record heavy.
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  It's almost all the new record and then a couple of songs from our first record.
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  And then we ignore the second and third.
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  Now if you weren't starting at Bakersfield, you may ignore the first one too, right?
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  No, I really like that record and I like playing those songs.
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  I really do.
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  I'm gonna have to get my hands on your music and and check it out for sure and then gives You know, we've talked about your new album Previously Cliffside serenades has been in
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  there you go on vinyl everybody for those of you with a turntable it's it's Wow you paid you paid for side two
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  and the sticker, it got a sticker too.
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  You know, please, I just I've been on a buying spree for albums for my niece.
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  Albums are not are not inexpensive anymore.
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  So please support them.
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  Buy the albums from both bands and appreciate a good album.
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  Because you've been working on this a while.
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  You went through a lot of personal heartache and tragedy.
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  We've talked in the past that it's some of the lyrics, although the music itself, the fundamental music is pretty up.
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  Some of the lyrics on the lyric side are kind of darker and deeper.
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  What are a few songs on the album that you're gonna be performing out on this run that you really want people to listen for and pay some attention to?
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  I were playing most of the new record because the only songs we actually know.
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  We have two new songs that we'll be doing in the set.
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  But for me, like the standout songs are like Carousel, which we open up with.
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  I really like that one.
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  And then our ender, Cover What You Wish For.
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  But for me, what I'm excited about
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  on this run of shows is we're gonna be playing Moon at Noon and Mike played on it and I wanna hear what his guitar solo is gonna sound like.
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  Us, you know?
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  Cause I doubt we're gonna rehearse with you.
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  We're probably gonna be at sound check and in Bakersfield, you know?
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  And you know, I'm really looking forward to that, you know?
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  I've only seen Junior Juggernaut once and I saw him at the Corbin Bowl and I was just like, just deeply impressed, you know?
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  all those influences do come out in their music and you know what better band to go on tour with you on a run with you know.
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  I see you said it too.
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  man, you were doing so well, Gizz, but I saw you had a couple extra gulps from your cup and I know that you're doing your, I know, I can only imagine what kind of lighter fluids
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  in there.
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  I keep having one of my friends come in and going.
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  it's obviously the game is two to nothing right now.
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  Don't know.
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  But.
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  well, yeah, I know.
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  mean, you gotta get this World Series all tied up by the time we air this.
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  may very well be, but how could you handle being out on the road and baseball at the same time?
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  I love baseball, but this year my father passed away, so I did not watch a single game.
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  I think I watched the All-Star game and that was about it.
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  And now when the World Series or the championship started, I was just like, all right, my mom and I sat down.
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  We watched pretty much every single game together.
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  So it's kind of cool that this is happening, but sadly.
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  I don't get to experience it with my dad, which would have been so much fun.
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  You we watched it in 81 together.
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  So, but again, that's these feelings that I get are the ones that inspire the lyrics that I write.
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  I, I was actually talking to Lewis the other day about, some of our new songs and I recorded a demo for one.
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  And when I listened back to it, it was kind of like a happy kind of song, you know, like.
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  somebody getting over their struggle type of theme.
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  And when I was reading it back, I was just like, I just don't buy it.
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  I have to write dark songs.
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  So it's a little difficult now, because I'm really in a good place and I'm happy again.
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  So trying to dive back into that, but I've kind of found the secret.
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  I wrote a song the other day for us and I just got really hammered.
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  Got sad and then I'm gonna write tonight So I'm gonna hopefully record it tonight or tomorrow night when I have some time
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  You got really hammered.
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  I'm shocked.
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  I'm shocked.
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  What did you mix with Tang?
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  Did you mix anything with Tang that night?
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  No, actually I had some whiskey and Coke last night and a bunch of twisted tea.
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  in the whiskey and Coke or that was just a sidecar?
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  a chaser.
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  A chaser for a chaser, you know.
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  There you go, there you go.
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  Well, you know, I'll be honest, I mean.
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  of the things I'm also looking forward to is getting to know Mike a little bit better on tour.
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  We've hung out once here when he did my podcast and we had some drinks together.
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  So I know he drinks.
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  none of us does.
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  So at least I got a drink.
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  Not really.
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  Mark will have maybe one or two if he's not driving.
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  Wal, really?
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  Not really.
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  This is the other benefit of being in a band with Wall is I always get his drink tickets.
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  We played one show and I looked at everybody and I was the one that got all 10 drink tickets and I had all 10 drinks and went here, here, here and everybody was just like,
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  nah, here, you can have them.
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  So I had all 10 tickets.
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  I was pleasantly drunk that night.
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  I'm gonna say they must've gotten used to
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  when I play the solo live in your band on tour, do I get foreclosure drink tickets for being in the band for the one song?
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  If they give me their tickets, yeah!
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  Yeah, I think I get a ticket every night for that.
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  Okay.
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  Which, so you guys have done runs up and down the West Coast before, whether it's with these bands or others, and you've been to a lot of clubs.
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  Tell me little bit about the clubs you're playing in these areas, and out of all the clubs you're playing, is there one that's like your favorite, specific aspect that makes any of
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  these clubs really worth it, not worth it, but interesting to you?
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  Gizz, you gotta answer that.
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  I've never played any of these places that we're playing.
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  Not a single one.
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  We played the Golden Bowl in Oakland before the singer for Sam I am Jason Bebout he's one of the bartenders there and So I I like that club a lot.
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  It's in Oakland.
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  So at night it gets a little sketchy But there's a nice burrito place down the street and there's plenty of booze inside.
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  So, you know and then another club is
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  The Corbin Bowl, where I saw Juno Joggernaut, but I think we're playing that one by ourselves.
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  And then Ventura at the Soor, Sansuchie.
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  Really nice little spot.
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  Sacramento is audio nerd and that's a record store I think.
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  like, I'm a big record collector so I'm excited anytime I get to play around stacks of records.
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  That's fun for me.
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  I went to see the dwarves at Headline Records one time and I blagged to start a grabbing vinyl and just chucking it, you know, like.
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  Hahaha!
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  Well, I guess, guess, does Mike know Sharif?
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  No, I don't think so.
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  You don't know Sheree from Beaver?
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  Uh-uh.
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  well he's a big record nerd too.
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  So now, now that you've announced this, we're gonna put you on the spot.
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  Because I can see you've got your records there.
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  Let's, I.
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  fact, before you me on the spot, I'm tell you, a week ago, I received, I wish I had it with me, it's in the other room, an anonymous typed letter sent through the USPS mail to
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  me from a neighbor telling me to turn my stereo down because I'm vibrating their house.
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  Wow!
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  Nice!
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  They said turn your stereo and guitar, yeah, turn your stereo and your guitar down.
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  It's vibrating my house and it's awful.
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  Did you send that off to a nice frame shop to have it for your wall?
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  I know.
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  I gotta figure out who, which one of these motherfuckers is sending me anonymous letters in the, through the mail so that, so they can't be picked up on my ring camera, dropping
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  it in my mailbox is what they're thinking, I know.
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  in forensics, get them to do a DNA test on it and then go around and get like spit swabs from your neighbors.
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  Yeah, exactly.
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  Okay, but you were put me on the spot now put me on the spot.
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  so this is gonna be hard, okay?
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  You talked about a lot of different influences that have impacted your music, but in that room that you're in, show us your top three albums that if you were gonna take them to the
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  grave you would, and why.
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  Just go pick some while Gizz and I are just commiserating.
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  wow, see, I thought it was hard, because like.
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  I re like sometimes people like shit.
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  I gotta check my playlist.
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  I gotta check this that but.
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  I know what is important to me.
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  Okay, I'll be back.
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  Gizz, Gizz, is he gonna show us a foreclosure album?
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  I don't think I just got mine the other day.
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  I haven't even opened it still Shit
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  Speaking of, while we got the time, Gizz, you know what we gotta bring up that just hasn't happened?
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  The busiest man in rock and roll, James.
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  I mean, how many shout outs do we have to do to get him off the mark here?
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  I mean, James, come on, buddy.
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  I'm literally dying for this.
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  I literally cannot wait to put you on the spot.
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  Because of all these other podcasts with all these other people, I got the dirt, man.
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  So it's gonna be painful.
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  By the time you get his interview, the record will probably be out.
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  So the good thing I'm a I'm also patient.
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  I'm also
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  shy.
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  I've seen him on stage, what does he have to be shy about?
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  He didn't hide behind the speaker.
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  you know me, and you're going to ask some questions.
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  your, you know, I'm your Nardwar.
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  So we're gonna go from the guy who was like, haven't I been invited to be on this podcast to I'm afraid to be on this podcast.
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  I've never felt so powerful.
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  Yeah, I'm gonna give you some dirt as these questions make them suffer I want to see you go
• 26:44
  James, the longer you go buddy, the worse it's gonna get.
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  Just telling you.
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  It's gonna get a lot, a lot worse.
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  Now, things work out with this run.
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  Have you guys already started talking about maybe doing another run together?
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  Is there any other plans before the end of the year?
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  you know I hope and I think once we do get
• 27:04
  go higher, wanna go up, I wanna do Seattle, Portland, stuff like that.
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  I wanna do that.
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  I wish we could do that this time, but we don't really have the time.
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  But I wanna do that with you guys, do further north stuff.
• 27:18
  Yeah, I want to leave the state.
• 27:20
  Shit, I want to leave the country.
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  Out of all of us, think Mark and I are the ones that are most ready to go on tour.
• 27:33
  Yeah, what?
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  You're going on the runs.
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  You're going on the run.
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  Okay.
• 27:40
  Okay.
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  in my band, and your band, Wall's work schedule is what dictates sort of when, because Wall's college professor.
• 27:52
  like summers are easy, because he has all that time off.
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  This tour is built around a couple of weekends, so he's able to do it.
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  And then Noah, who's our bass player, also has his own band that he fronts that is very active.
• 28:10
  And so that also takes some scheduling stuff, you know.
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  But anyways, I've gone and gotten some records to show you.
• 28:19
  So tell us about them and and what do you love because I one of the kids knows I love getting people into other music and And this is a great vehicle to turn some people on to
• 28:29
  things that may have not heard
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  So, like top couple albums of all time for me, Sugar Copper Blue.
• 28:37
  Interestingly, it did not land for me when I initially heard it.
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  I actually got, it was one of the records I got from, you know, those like Columbia house things by 10 CDs for a dollar or whatever.
• 28:53
  And I got it in that.
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  And I was aware of who screwed you.
• 28:59
  In fact, my
• 29:00
  previous band in college had been compared to Who's Screwed Who, even though I wasn't really listening that much to them.
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  anyways, I got this and I liked it, but it was a little too perfect for my punk rock brain at the time.
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  year after year, I kept listening, kept listening until it's clearly one of the greatest pieces of music ever recorded.
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  It's like an incredible
• 29:30
  incredibly It's it's flawlessly written flawlessly recorded flawlessly mixed it is like Send it up in the outer space show aliens what?
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  like Melodic rock melodic alternative rock is this is the one I would send into outer space It's just Perfect.
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  It's just an incredible record.
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  I love Bob Mold's
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  I love his guitar playing, his guitar tone, his voice.
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  Everything here is just really...
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  The first three songs back to back, I call the Holy Trinity because it's like those three songs into each other sequenced.
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  To me, music doesn't get better than that.
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  It literally is like a religious experience every time I put this record on.
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  and I just sit and listen to those three songs and they don't make songs better than that.
• 30:30
  So Sugar, Copper, Blue.
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  These are all original pressings too, for my record nerd friends out there.
• 30:37
  This is an original German pressing because it wasn't released in the States on release on vinyl.
• 30:43
  It is now, but I don't do that.
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  Anyways, this is my number one album of all time.
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  Dinosaur Jr.
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  Where You Been?
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  An original pressing.
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  This...
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  This also, know, Dinosaur Jr., when they came out, Jay described them as ear-bleeding country.
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  And that's the name of the greatest hits record of theirs.
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  And that's sort of what I was thinking Junior Juggernaut was early on, ear-bleeding country music.
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  Because it's like open chords.
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  And I feel like they got more that way also as they went along because Jay's courting.
• 31:23
  originally on was a little obtuse.
• 31:26
  was little, he was doing some weird chording that would make it sound very definitely indie rock.
• 31:34
  This is the record where it's like straight up classic rock.
• 31:38
  It's not, it's just big classic rock open chord anthems that feel very crazy horsey, very Neil Young-y, but you know.
• 31:52
  with more noise and certainly more volume.
• 31:55
  This to me is also like, I can listen to this front to back and it feels like home, know, it's just really, it's an incredible record.
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  This is another favorite, Blue Cheer, Vince Abyss Eruptum, a 60s record.
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  More noise, more noise.
• 32:15
  People say this is like the first heavy metal album.
• 32:18
  I completely disagree with that.
• 32:22
  Because this predates Sabbath by, I don't know, a couple months or something, you know, but it's most definitely like power blues.
• 32:31
  It's definitely Jimi Hendrix influenced.
• 32:34
  Have you heard this giz?
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  Yeah.
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  But when I first put this on, this is the mono pressing, which sounds way better than the stereo pressing.
• 32:45
  And neither of them actually sound very good.
• 32:47
  It's recorded very poorly, but I felt like
• 32:52
  an immediate kinship when I first heard this record.
• 32:55
  Someone that I knew just recommended it because I like 60's psychedelic rock, whatever, and they said, out Blue Cheer.
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  And it was, it doesn't sound like the birth of metal to me, it sounds like the birth of noise rock to me because the solos are so fuzzy and so all over the place that, and you
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  see pictures of them and there's like stacks of, you know, just like.
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  10 fucking full stacks behind them.
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  And that is something that really appeals to me.
• 33:27
  So this is, again, sort of like Dino Junior taking like classic rock and amping it up.
• 33:34
  This was like taking blues and, know, cream also in the small part, but this is so much more less refined than that, you know what I mean?
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  This is three guys like,
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  bashing and making noise and I love it so much.
• 33:54
  I got two more here.
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  Ragged Glory by Neil Young, Crazy Horse.
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  was gonna say there has to be a Neil Young in there and if it's not close to live rust, it's gotta be least include Crazy Horse.
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  This is my favorite Crazy Horse Home and I was so excited.
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  I went and saw them on tour earlier this year.
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  They played San Diego and me and Noah, my bass player, went to see them and it was extremely Ragged Glory heavy.
• 34:29
  It was like, I don't know, they played like 12 songs or something.
• 34:32
  And I think like six of them were from Ragged Glory.
• 34:35
  And I was just losing my mind because
• 34:39
  This is like the record, man.
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  And this is not a record that's filled with hits.
• 34:43
  So it's so cool when you go see Neil Young and he's just like, we're playing Ragged Glory tonight.
• 34:50
  I know you guys want Head of Golds, but we are playing Ragged Glory for whatever reason tonight we're playing Ragged Glory.
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  And that was the only show on that tour that they did that.
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  So I was really stoked.
• 35:03
  But this again is what I love, fuzzy guitars.
• 35:08
  lots of solos, well-written songs, heartfelt stuff, but it's got that foot stomping, fuzz box shit going on that I just can't get enough of.
• 35:22
  And I'm gonna throw you for a loop here.
• 35:25
  Probably my favorite hip hop album of all time, The Great Adventures of Slick Rick.
• 35:30
  This album is so fucking good.
• 35:34
  I love this record.
• 35:35
  This record, I am a...
• 35:37
  old school hip hop fan and the song, the storytelling on this record is insane.
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  Like you just sit there and it's like hearing a little short story and it's got such great widths and it's so smart, it's so smart.
• 35:56
  I love this record.
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  Since I was a kid, this has been the one for me.
• 36:03
  And I was so lucky to see him finally live.
• 36:07
  Earlier this year, he played a show in Venice I went to see him play live.
• 36:10
  I fucking love Slipkrick.
• 36:12
  Just incredible storytelling.
• 36:15
  So I've got to ask for one more then.
• 36:17
  I've got to ask for one more.
• 36:18
  And this you don't have to go, you don't have to get the album, but when you're not playing your own music, right?
• 36:25
  And you just want to kind of chill and relax.
• 36:28
  What's your comfort food?
• 36:30
  Either genre or an album that like, you're like, it's my tomato soup and grilled cheese.
• 36:36
  I just want to veg out to.
• 36:39
  You know what?
• 36:40
  I don't do that.
• 36:42
  I buy so many records that I don't revisit them that often.
• 36:49
  There's always something new.
• 36:51
  I literally have like 100 records sitting there in my new arrivals section just waiting to be played.
• 36:58
  So, so often for me, vegging out and the comfort food is just listening to something new, actually.
• 37:07
  That's what I like to do is like put this new one on, this...
• 37:10
  And then I might listen to it a few times before I put it away.
• 37:14
  I mean, these records here I obviously revisit, you know, religiously.
• 37:22
  But I'm looking at thousands of records that...
• 37:29
  I'm not gonna listen to again, because I got more of a little way to be fucking listened to.
• 37:34
  be honest with you.
• 37:35
  I sold all my vinyl years ago.
• 37:37
  Everything I do now is on, I've got a million plus songs on a hard drive.
• 37:41
  I buy music every single, like almost every single day I buy someone's music.
• 37:45
  I love it that you're buying albums.
• 37:48
  For everyone watching, you always know I talk about this.
• 37:53
  You've got to support your musicians.
• 37:57
  The main way that they make money nowadays.
• 38:00
  buy their albums, support them by going to see them, buy a shirt, a pin, whatever, but buy it and support musicians.
• 38:08
  Although you can listen to the two albums that these bands have put out on digital, but you know what?
• 38:14
  Show them your love, buy music.
• 38:16
  If you care enough about supporting musicians, please support them with your dollars.
• 38:22
  Buy music, records, buy it on iTunes, wherever.
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  Pick it up at a show.
• 38:30
  that support musicians through buying their music.
• 38:33
  Great art isn't for rent.
• 38:36
  Yeah, I appreciate that.
• 38:37
  I'm sure Gizz agrees with that too.
• 38:39
  And it's like, you know, you're right.
• 38:44
  You you can listen to this stuff on Spotify, but Gizz and I aren't going to see anything from that.
• 38:48
  And it costs money to go record this stuff and it costs time.
• 38:53
  Even if, know, we're mixing at Wall's house, which is what happened.
• 38:58
  It's still time.
• 38:59
  It's days and days and days and days and days and days and months and years that we put into this.
• 39:05
  And man, it would be cool if you threw 20 bucks at us so can do it again next time.
• 39:11
  Yeah.
• 39:12
  I just bought three pieces yesterday for my niece.
• 39:16
  They're 20 bucks a piece and I was happy to hand it over so she can have that album listening experience.
• 39:22
  She's gonna be 14 pretty soon.
• 39:24
  She's not watching, she doesn't know this, but she is getting, I've already got about 20 different albums and she loves like 80s stuff.
• 39:31
  She's getting madness, she's getting blondies, she's getting adamant, she's getting all like, all the really cool stuff that came out around that time along with the...
• 39:41
  a few other special ones thrown in.
• 39:42
  it's the experience that she's having.
• 39:46
  I'm living vicariously through it because Amoeba Records has all of my old vinyl.
• 39:52
  I got tired of lugging it around the country.
• 39:53
  So maybe somebody else watching this has got it.
• 39:56
  Mike, this has been, you never know, especially if it was like Madness, Elvis Costello, that kind of stuff, Britpop, Scott, New Web.
• 40:05
  Mike, it has been great to get to know you.
• 40:08
  Gizz, what?
• 40:09
  Scar
• 40:10
  us hate, Scar!
• 40:12
  please, I met you through punk rock bowling and madness was there dude, come on.
• 40:18
  No, no, no, you were drunk in another club.
• 40:22
  But you were at the Double Down for some ass juice.
• 40:26
  But Mike, it's been great to know you, get to know you and really appreciate the suggestions on music.
• 40:32
  Everybody go out, check out Junior Juggernaut's music.
• 40:36
  There'll be links below.
• 40:38
  And of course,
• 40:39
  Our friend Gizz Lazlo, the happiest man in music, and I've said it before and I'll say it again, especially when he's behind a drum kit, he is happy as a puppy looking at a bone.
• 40:53
  there you go.
• 40:53
  There you go.
• 40:54
  Pick these up, support these bands, go see them on this run so that they can go out and do a tour.
• 41:01
  As always, everybody, thanks for joining us.
• 41:03
  It's been a great hang.
• 41:05
  We will do this again soon, guys.
• 41:08
  Definitely Mike, we will connect.
• 41:10
  I got an idea for a hang that I'm gonna definitely include you and Sharif on for sure.
• 41:16
  I think it'll be a fun one to do.
• 41:18
  So guys, be safe out there.
• 41:20
  Have a great time.
• 41:21
  All the success gives with the new album coming out soon.
• 41:24
  And we will see everyone soon.
• 41:26
  Thanks for hanging with us.
• 41:27
  Bye for now.
• 41:28
  come to a show, man.
• 41:29
  Come to a show.
• 41:35
  shit.
• 41:36
  right now.
• 41:37
  But maybe if you guys get to Dallas, come to run to Make it happen.
• 41:44
  Make it happen.
• 41:45
  All right, bye for now guys.
• 41:46
  Good to see you.