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Bill O'Brien Out, Chip Kelly In As Ohio State Offensive Coordinator · Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning

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Okay, welcome to a very special live episode of Buckeyees tomorrow morning for Saturday,
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February tenth. I'm your host, Tom Or the Akron game in two
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hundred and three days, the game against Michigan in two hundred and ninety four
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days. We're doing it live today because news is breaking around the Ohio State
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football program. Bill O'Brien's long and story tenure as Ohio States offensive coordinator is
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now over. He is taking the Boston College head coaching job. And we
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also know who is replacing Bill O'Brien as Ohio States next offensive coordinator. It
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is going to be Chip Kelly, UCLA head coach. No longer the UCLA
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head coach. He just left the Bruins us UCLA put out a statement on
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it. It is officially official. Chip Kelly no longer the UCLA head coach.
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He's going to be headed to Ohio State. We're going to have some
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Tony Gurdham is going to join me live here in just a second. But
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while we're waiting for it, there is Tony a very interesting tweet from our
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buddy Marcus Hartman of the Daton Daily News about the long and storied backstory on
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this whole thing. Martin Jarmond, when he was the Boston College athletic director,
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hired Jeff Haffley away from Ryan Dade Ohio State. Halfley leaves PC,
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Bill O'Brien replaces Halflee Ryan Day, Bill O'Brien goes back to BC. Ryan
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Day hires Chip Kelly away from Jarmond at UCLA. Tony Gerdaman is it is
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one of these, you know, like the food chain or something like that,
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where each of the animals is just eating another animal, but somehow at
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the end, you know, the the little animal goes around. I guess
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in our burros is probably what we're looking for here. Where the snake eats
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its own tail. Is this like time is a flat circle kind of thing,
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and you know, just everything becomes what it once was twice over something
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like that. So yeah, pretty interesting. There's so many strange bedfellows throughout
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all of this, and maybe the least strange or most strange being that Ryan
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Day was chip Kelly's quarterback way back when chip Kelly was the offensive coordinator at
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New Hampshire. And but yeah, and then the Jeff Affley thing is just
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thinking back to Wednesday when Ryan Day was asking you know, hey, what
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man, Jeff Affley man, He's like, god, dang, you know,
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he held himself back from personing worse. But you could see, like
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I wish that guy. You know, you give that guy one job and
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he just you know, just continues to uh to to ruin things for you.
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But I did see a post on her message board that the absolutely funniest
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thing at this point would be for Jim Knowles to take the u c l
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A job. That is true, That would be really funny. Yeah,
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this is Yeah, Jim Knowles has the possibility to do the funniest possible thing.
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Uh yeah, Well, we'll see what UCLA does with their with their
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job. I guess it's not a huge surprise. It's it is simultaneously absolutely
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bizarre for someone to leave a sitting Big Ten head coach to leave a you
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know, non Indiana, non Northwestern kind of school. UCLA is, you
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know, considered not a blue blood in the sport, but certainly a brand
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name in the sport. They're now in the Big Ten, you've got some
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financial stability, you're playing in one of the two big leagues, and you
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leave a head coaching position there to take a coordinator position at Ohio State.
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And this is not officially official yet, but there's lots of reports from very
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reliable sources saying things like, you know, Chip Kelly is expected to join
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Ohio State as its next offensive coordinator, which when you look at some of
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the names attached to those reports, you know, the Bruce Felwens of the
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world, you know, Okay, it's it's pretty much pretty much done deal.
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And this sort of matches what we had been hearing that you know,
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hey, if O'Brien does leave, this is probably where Ryan Day is going
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to turn still. You know, when when coaches left MAC head coaching jobs
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to take coordinator positions at Power five schools shown for example, leaving the Kent
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State job take the Colorado offensive coordinate position, it was like, well,
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that's interesting, But I wonder if that's a statement on, you know,
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the place of the MAC in modern college football. Tony, what is the
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statement when Chip Kelly leaves UCLA head coaching position position and a Big ten school
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to take an coordinator position at Ohio State. Well, I think it says
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something about UCLA and their place. Right now, you have people saying reports
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saying that you probably would have been fired this past year, but UCLA didn't
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have the eight and a half million dollars to do it. And if you
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are a major program and you don't want to fork over eight and a half
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million dollars to fire your head coach in a football program, I mean that
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should be something that you can find in the couch cushions in the team room.
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And for them to not be able to do that, it's kind of
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like Chip Kelly sees the riding on the wall, like, you guys can't
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even afford to fire me. I gotta get it, I gotta quit,
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and that sort of thing. Also knowing like probably not long for this job.
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People do want him out. But also the men's basketball coaches complaining about
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the lack of funding and things like that, and you know, so there
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are plenty of issues going on at UCLA right now. And then now they're
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coming into the Big Ten and you know, maybe one day we'll do a
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show about where does UCLA rank in the Big ten? Realism, like realistically
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not you know, oh, the nineteen eighties, the nineteen seventies, they
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are blue blood, they are sleeping giant. What are they right now?
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Are they less than Northwestern? Are you know, Chip Kelly has done some
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good things at UCLA, but this is something where this is people that we're
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always asking, is this is Ohio State offensive coordinator a better job than Boston
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College head coach? And people would say yes right now, I think you
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could say the same thing for the Ohio State offensive coordinator job, just because
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things are so bad financially at UCLA and also we're having the best venue in
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college football, maybe the best venue in sports. It's not a draw because
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it's not a campus thing right at. UCLA has some something of and Lord
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forgive me for the comparison I'm just about to make, but it's similar to
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Okay, good you said it. I didn't have to. You know,
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if you're if you're playing your home games in hard Rock Stadium and your campus
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is in Coral Gables, you know that's one of the reasons, one of
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several reasons why Miami does not ever draw well. UCLA has a similar thing
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where the campus is in Westwood, the stadiums in Pasadena. And while I
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have very different views of the Rose Bowl as a stadium in a college football
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venue, as a you know, from what I view hard Rock Stadium as
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you run into some of the same issues, and UCLA is a it's a
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spot where I think you run into some expectation issues because it's not like Chip
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Kelly has been terrible at UCLA. He had a couple of rough years to
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start with, but since since the COVID season twenty twenty one and through the
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present eight and four, nine and four, eight and five, that's perfectly
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fine. That's you're in the sort of low end of the top twenty five
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others receiving votes, kind of end of things. I don't know, you
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know, it's not like like UCLA has this incredible history of being super fantastic
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at all times. They are. I'm just looking at their They have had
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three times they have finished the season ranked since nineteen ninety eight. So since
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the Bob Toledo era nineteen ninety eight, they have finished the season ranked three
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times other than the time that Chip Kelly did. It's, you know,
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this is very much and is what it is program, and it's generally been
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the second best program in Los Angeles for pretty much the last twenty five years.
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And it's in a conference. It has been in a conference which is
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the you know, fourth maybe best conference, and just the resources are not
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necessarily there, and with recruiting being a little more national, you can't necessarily
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keep some of that Southern California talent home. Speaking of Southern California talent,
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Kevin Noon has joined the show. Kevin, let's get your initial thoughts on
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Bill O'Brien out Chip Kelly. In Boy, we hardly knew y Bill O'Brien.
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It was it was quick, It was a bull shared in type of
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existence. But you know, I will always have fond memories there. I
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think chip Kelly was the decision that made a lot of sense, But I
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figured they were going to fritter around a little bit more. But Ryan Day
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is out for blood or something like that. There was no there was there
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was no screwing around here. Do you think, guys, do you think
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that chip Kelly? Is there a possibility that chip Kelly was actually Ryan Day's
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first choice but decided against it because of the familiarity. I think there's a
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chance that chip Kelly was Ryan Day's first choice, but chip Kelly was thinking
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he might get an NFL job, which would be you know that, because
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he was certainly linked to some NFL jobs and at the time, what was
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it three weeks ago, two three weeks ago, when ohis it was kind
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of going through this the first time, Chip Kelly may have still thought,
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well, let's get through the NFL hiring cycle. I would prefer to do
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that, and now that those jobs are largely filled, now you'd kind of
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know, okay, that's not an option. So now this is, you
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know, this is this is the next best option, and so it's you
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know, you don't necessarily want to be someone's Plan B. But I think
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they were, you know, they I think they ended up both maybe being
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each other's Plan b's and that you know, that doesn't mean it doesn't work.
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I know, I'm going to have Ross Fulton and Tomorrow's morning show to
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kind of dive deep on his thoughts on this, but you know, the
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initial thoughts that he shared were you know, broadly positive. I would say,
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So, you know, this is something where you have Chip Kelly has
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you know, I'm expecting he's presumably going to kind of handle the quarterbacks,
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right, so he's kind of taking the offensive coordinator spot but also the quarterback
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coach spot, which you know that that's a pretty substantial lift off of Ryan
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Day's Ryan Day's plate. Yeah, I think it's important because on Wednesday,
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when we asked Ryan about the potential of Bill O'Brien moving on, and nobody
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really knew anything or was saying anything, it seemed like there was a side
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hatch there where, well, if we can't get the right guy, I
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mean, you know, I know how to call plays. And now that
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obviously they got the right guy once again, I think that it's all systems
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are normal, move ahead, nothing to see here, let's just get on
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with it. And I think this is you know, this is a very
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positive step of what could have really set Ohio State back after all of this
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momentum that it had picked up through the month of January and here in through
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the first week of February and even a little bit beyond. Now they're still
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right, kind of calling from the same playbook and you know, to the
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earlier point of the familiarity there. It's it's going to be an interesting dynamic
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with you know, Chip was the uh was the teacher and Ryan was the
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disciple and now you know, the roles are are flipped a little bit,
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so to speak. Yeah, that's a really interesting part of this dynamic is
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Yeah, they know each other really well. Yes, they they work together,
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they've worked together well in the past. All of this is absolutely true.
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They still have a great relationship. Ryan Day has talked about, you
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know, his friendship is continued friendship with Chip Kelly in the fact that he
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talks to chip Kelly all the time, and so you know this is this
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is not a well I'll take a shot on this. You know, young
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up and comer who I don't know anything about, but maybe it'll work out.
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This is someone who he has known for a long time, worked well
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with in the past. But Tony, this is still kind of a weird
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flip in that dynamic where Ryan Day was working under Chip Kelly and now Chip
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Kelly's working under Ryan Day. That's you know, I guess it's not going
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to be a surprise for chip Kelly that that's the case. He knows what
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he's signing up for. But that's still going to be kind of a weird
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work dynamic, I would think, not unlike when Obi Wan Kenobi and Darth
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Vader met up and the a student struck down the teacher. So hopefully the
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two of them can get along a bit better than that. But it will
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be I'll be interested to see, like if there are, there are times
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because these guys haven't coached together since twenty sixteen in San Francisco. San Francisco,
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they spent four seasons together, three in Philadelphia, one in San Francisco,
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so it's been a while. Ryan Day is not the same guy he
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was back then, certainly not as a head coach. He's grown a lot
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as a coach in general. But it will be interesting to see as Chip
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Kelly and they're working together to if Chip Kelly ever sees himself in Ryan when
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things are happening or play calling or thought processes. One of the reasons Kevin
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Wilson and Ryan Day were so good together is they pretty much shared a brain
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in terms of the play calling and with the offense what they needed to do.
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So I wonder how quickly those two guys will, in a different sci
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fi way, mind meld Tom and get that. But it is an interesting
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dynamic. How many times have we seen this before? It's not unheard of
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when you know somebody goes back and is you know they have this kind of
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situation, this switch through. This is another research project maybe for the summertime.
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Go ahead and put that one on the list as well as we keep
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building these up over the last few days. But if you look at what
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he's done, Chip Kelly, they even in his six seasons at UCLA,
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like the first two seasons were pretty rough, but third season they were second
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in scoring, fourth season they were first in scoring. Twenty twenty two they
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were third scoring. This past year they had a rough season ninth and scoring
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at some quarterback issues and things like that. But I encourage people to go
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back and look at his time at Oregon because it was pretty ridiculous. Leading
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the conference in scoring all six years at Oregon too as an offensive coordinator for
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as the head coach, four as a head coach his last two years scoring
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forty six and forty nine point six points per game. So like this was
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a guy back then, and his first year in the NFL won an NFL
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Coach of the Year awards, So a ton of bonafides. My one of
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my concerns within that it was that when I would talk to people for the
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last few weeks about Chip Kelly as offensive coordinators, say, I don't know
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if you can have two coordinators who don't necessarily recruit a lot. Gym Knowles
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is not known as the recruiter Chip Kelly. I think it's kind of okay
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because, for one, I don't think he's a long term roy Day,
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not the quarterbacks coach, not the offensive coordinator. So I don't think like
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nobody goes to Alabama for Pete Golding, they go for you know, they
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would go for Nick Nick saban and they're not going for Kevin Steele. They're
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going, you know, to be coached by Nick Saban. So and the
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fact that ohis stated already has a twenty twenty five quarterback, they're in pretty
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good on the twenty twenty six guy, twenty twenty seven guy as the coach's
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son, you know. So they're they're they're seemingly to uh, they're okay
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in that scenario. So, like the recruiting aspect of it doesn't necessarily bother
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me as much as I think about it now. But it's gonna be fun.
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I I don't expect you guys to see the tempo that Chip Kelly would
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run at Oregon because I don't know that that's I don't know if that's what
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they're gonna do anymore. And it's not necessarily what he did at UCLA either
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though. No, and uh, so we get a super chat from m
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stem once to know does you CLA have a super tackle that might transfer?
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And Kevin and I, based on Kevin comments in the chat, Kevin and
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I were doing the exact same research just now. So Kevin, what did
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you find when you looked up the All Pac twelve conference team? And the
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short answer is no, they don't have one that could transfer. They had
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a second team All Conference tackle Duke Clemens, or an offensive lineman who was
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a red shirt senior, so he is probably out of eligibility. And then
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I went to the honorable mentions and I did not see an offensive lineman on
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the list. So no, I think the best thing out there in the
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current portal right now or could be in the portal. Keep an eye still
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on Ozzie Trapeo from Boston College. But as I had said on my show
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earlier today, it seems like he's going to wait this out. See the
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new coach, Bill O'Brien, as we know now, kind of hear the
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pitch there and then probably make a decision from that point. But there's just
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not somebody that you could pluck away that was like an immediate performer. Now,
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maybe there's somebody that was a young pup that just was like the sixth
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linemen that there are big thoughts for that Justin fry would have recruited. But
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at this point I am unaware of anybody. But I've also had about a
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grand total of eleven minutes to be able to process this between errands and shows
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and everything. And you know, I think that is an interesting point you
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raised there that Justin fry between you know, right before he came to Ohio
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State, he was hired away as the offensive line coach at UCLA. That's
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where he came to Ohio State from. So you know, if there is
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a third year offensive lineman at UCLA that you know, maybe right on the
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verge of stardom, Justin Frye would be one of the most qualified people on
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the planet to tell you to know who that is and you know what he
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likes about that person and have an existing relationship. So as is the case
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with all of these teams, Boston College and Michigan and Alabama and UCLA and
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everyone else that's been replacing a coach this season, there is a thirty day
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window where the transfer portal opens for players from the team whose head coach has
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just left so there is a possibility, you see someone else in that transfer
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portal. Justin Fry would have a pretty good sense for who that might be.
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So we'll see see how that all shakes out. I guess, you
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know, it's easy to make jokes about, you know, what was your
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favorite moment of the Bill O'Brien time at Ohio State. But it feels like
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there was some consequential stuff that happened during Bill O'Brien's time at Ohio State that
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you know, they brought in a couple of transfers from Alabama that he was
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at least sort of peripherally involved in recruiting or in the case of Seth McLaughlan,
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coaching. So this feels I guess, Kevin, I mean, this
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is not an insubstantial contribution for Bill O'Brien, considering how long he was at
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Ohio State. Well, to go back to someone else that Ryan Day had
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mentioned that Bill O'Brien came in and did an inventory and went through some of
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these things, and they're going to have all of those notes. And now
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Chip Kelly's going to come in and they're going to do an inventory, and
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they're going to have all of those notes and then you can kind of look
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at some things and compare and contrast, and I think all of that,
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in terms of the less sexy things that we don't talk about as much,
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I think all of that's there. Julian saying was somebody that was recruited,
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because remember, recruitments are not just senior years. I mean it goes on
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multiple years. So there was some familiarity with Julian saying. I think that
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just a lot of things are there based on the three weeks. I mean,
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as much as we want to sit there and diminish what can get done
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in three weeks, I think it's I think that we will lose sight of
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it. But the book that we could be writing this season about hopefully a
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national championship year, I think we can maybe see we can get Bill O'Brien
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to do the forwork or something like that, because that's about the amount of
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time that he was around. Yeah, not a long tenure, but an
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interesting way. I've seen several people in to chat ask you about PJ.
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Fleck leaving for UCLA, and I was just looking up to see if that
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was something that was getting sort of okay. Yeah, So there are some
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people floating that Sports Illustrated or the corpse of Sports Illustrated reporting that PJ.
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Fleck could be the top candidate for the UCLA job that's getting passed around quite
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a bit. I mean, boy, this is this is one of these
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things where yet I mean, that's a better job than Minnesota, certainly,
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but you know, and then sinoscoopas if PJ. Fleck leaves for Ucla and
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in Minnesota players available, and the answer is yes, they're all potentially available.
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I don't know if any of them are great fit for Ohio State.
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Now I get to look up the Big Ben, a whole Big Ten on
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what but you know, I mean this is that was Tony. You know,
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if it's PJ. Fleck going to UCLA, that one is much more
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of a traditional Okay, this makes you know this is a more traditionally sensible
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college football head coaching kind of move than leaving Ucla for the Ohio State offensive
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coordinator position. Right, And I do see Minnesota had a second team offensive
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second team All Big Ten offensive tackle, but I don't know what year he
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was. But yeah, this is what's supposed to happen. You're supposed to
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go from Minnesota to Ucla. You're not supposed to, you know, do
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what Chip Kelly is doing. But I don't know that we can go we
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can rely on the supposed tos because college football is a completely different animal than
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it was years ago. And honestly, Minnesota is in a better spot right
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now than UCLA to have success in terms of, you know, where things
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are financially for them, they're footing, but the possibilities that UCLA are obviously
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higher. So is PJ. Fleck at this point. Has he He's done
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everything he can do at Minnesota. And now that you've lost the divisions,
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you've lost your window to win the Big ten so now or even win a
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division. So now you think, well, I usual, I should probably
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go somewhere that is there's more potential that will is certainly warmer. I think
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maybe that might also be how long can you actually live in Minnesota without being
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like I need to get out of here? Like can't Herbeck? Like I
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doubt he still lives there. He probably as soon as he retired from Betweens,
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He's like, I am out of here. There's no way. Joe
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Mauer goes to Florida State for football, for baseball and football, and then
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goes and plays in Minnesota. I guarantee he's moving back to Florida. So
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PJ. Fleck, it would be interesting if he's an energetic you see,
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LA needs energy, and for as fast as Chip Kelly likes to play,
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he doesn't aways seem like he's got that much energy in terms of recruiting.
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So I think, you know, Fleck's not going to be there forever at
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Minnesota, so you got to move on eventually. This wouldn't be a bad
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opportunity for him. I don't think it's just you got to give him time
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because it's going to be ground zero for two or three years. I think
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the show Coach was on the air for nine years and that took place in
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Minnesota. This will be the eighth year for PJ. Flex. So he's
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getting up against the UH, the UH Craig T. Nelson ceiling, if
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we so to speak. That was Minnesota state though, so it's still still
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Minnesota. Come on this state, I mean, and then maybe and then
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maybe they can elevate Dauber. Yeah, the Hayden Fox line, that's what
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they call it. What what is the what's the uh? The guy from
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the guy from Cocoon, UH, It's like the Wilfrid Brimley line that that
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you know, if you're younger then Wilfrid Brimley was when he did the movie
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Cocoon. Uh, you know, yeah, the Hayden Fox line. You
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know that if you've coached as long as Hayden Fox did at Minnesota State,
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it may be time to leave. Although I will say shout out to Minnesota
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in like July and August, like you're you're a real one. February January
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maybe not, but yeah, this is that that is a great place to
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be during the summer. I'm trying to figure out aaronte s or Surrey.
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All pronunciations are approximate. He was their second team offensive offensive tackle last year
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for Minnesota. Obviously, we are sort of speculating multiple levels deep at this
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point in terms of in terms of coaching positions that could open transfer portal,
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additions that could you know, people who could go into the transfer portal.
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Last year was his fifth year. He does technically have another year left,
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and I can't find whether he is officially declared for the NFL Draft or not.
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So the answer is, even if all of these things happened, the
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answer is maybe so there you go, breaking breaking news. Yeah. Market
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X says dinky Town in Minneapolis is awesome though it is really legitimately a wonderful
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a wonderful state. If you if you go up there during the right time
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of the year, so beautiful week up there. It's a beautiful it's it's
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yeah, you could, you can go. Everyone is having fun with you.
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Garrett Garret Sye, right host of The Daily Huddle, says it's fantastic
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that Tony just is at two Minnesota twins who are from Minnesota as wanting to
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leave. Well, Jerry Emmy got out. I mean that's he's a Cubs
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fan. What does he know? But Jerry also goes back, Yes he
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does. Yeah, somebody's got to hang out at Iron River or whatever the
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hell it was that he talked about, like fishing out barges and some of
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these stories he's told us Knife River, Nie, I will say, Minnesota
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in September is also fantastic and a great place to walk around wearing a shower
25:33
curtain in the rain. Who who would do that, Tony? I don't
25:37
understand. Interesting mentioned here from sk boy parents was a safety who is a
25:44
true freshman just signed with Minnesota that was someone little hivest. It made a
25:48
real push for really really talented, highly touted safety prospect, really really viewed,
25:55
you know, highly by the national recruiting folks as well. He ended
25:59
up going Minnesota, passing up on Ohio State. He's from northern Minnesota,
26:03
somewhere I think by Duluth, I believe, some small town up there.
26:06
But he is, uh, you know, that's certainly another name. If
26:11
again, if PJ. Fleck were to leave Minnesota and take the U c
26:14
l A job which was just vacated by Chub Kelly, because Kelly's going to
26:17
Ohio State for the offensive coordinator position, because Bill O'Brien is going to BC
26:22
for the head coaching position. Boy, there's a we are we are like
26:26
doing college football inception on this show. Can I ask you if so,
26:30
say PJ. Fleck goes, does Jason Kandall then go to Minnesota? And
26:36
is there anybody on the Toledo Yes, I mean I don't know, I
26:45
don't know the Toledo roster. You pros there for a second, but we
26:48
may be playing this game of hopscotch up until the until kickoff. At this
26:52
point. At some point, Joe Moorehead could leave Akron and then maybe they'll
26:56
just cancel game one. I mean, who, who the hell? Who
27:02
knows? I mean, maybe maybe Parker Fleming gets a job out of this.
27:06
Yeah, that's Hre's There's just this endless, endless parade of guys jumping
27:11
from one to one job to another, and it always just creates another opening.
27:15
We should talk real briefly, since we're talking about different coaching hirings and
27:18
offensive coordinator and defensive coordinator hirings, let's talk a little bit about Michigan hiring
27:22
its new defensive coordinator Wink Martindale out of the NFL. He was, you
27:29
know, renowned when he was with the Baltimore Ravens and he had really good
27:32
players, and then he was with the New York Giants and he did not
27:33
have any good players, and then he got fired, and now he's the
27:37
defensive coordinator at Michigan. I mean, Tony, do you have you know
27:41
any thoughts? I know there's sort of been some some broad strokes on some
27:45
of those hires, and I'm going to probably try and have Ross Fault on
27:48
a show at some point to take a little deeper dive, But what are
27:51
your thoughts on Michigan hiring Wink Martindale and maybe some of the other stuff that's
27:55
happened in terms of coaches leaving and staying up in Michigan. Yeah, I
27:59
did have it NFL person reach out to me and just say that they like
28:02
the higher but they are an NFL person, so they like they think NFL
28:07
is always better than college, but also said he will blitz a lot,
28:11
which then got me thinking about Don Brown. But I don't think it's going
28:15
to be necessarily like that. And I've seen some of the Michigan x's and
28:18
o's Twitter accounts talking about Mink Martindale, how I probably have to do things
28:22
a little bit differently. But also I think it's Michigan has done this NFL
28:26
defense defense thing for a few years now and it has worked for them.
28:30
Once they got got away from Don Brown and started going to the John Harbau
28:36
tree in the NFL tree, it's been an interesting transition and it's been an
28:40
interesting attack to college offenses and perhaps Ohio State's pro offense. Maybe that was
28:45
the impetus behind that, and certainly the abuse that Don Brown's defenses took and
28:52
Jim Harbrough wanting a solution for that led to a different type of defensive coordinator.
28:56
But you know, we'll see. I I always have a concern about
29:00
NFL guys coming in and recruiting, and especially I think Michigan is, Like
29:06
I said, they have a chance to recruit better with Searon more than Jim
29:08
Harball. But I don't know that Wake Martindell is any kind of recruiter.
29:11
When was the last time, if I scanned through here, he was Western
29:17
Kentucky as the defensive coordinator in two thousand to two thousand and three. Can
29:21
anybody tell me any Blue Chippers that he signed there at Western Kentucky when they're
29:25
probably still fts? Yes, I think they were. They might have just
29:33
brand new in FBS at that point, but not not long. I don't
29:37
know. Maybe he brought Big Red in. I'm not sure that's a that
29:41
would be that would be certainly a Blue Chipper. I do want to correct
29:44
myself, as Gerald Jack says, when resigned from the Giants, he was
29:48
not fired, which you know, lots of people resigned jobs and or den
29:52
don't get fired. That's one of the ways you can it wasn't He didn't
29:57
resign due to excellence in perform in the twenty twenty three college football or the
30:02
NFL season. That's I think the central point there, But I do want
30:04
to correct the record or there. You know, when you when you look
30:08
at how people talk about his defenses, and you know he's gonna play a
30:11
lot of pressman. He's going to bring pressure. Like you said, that's
30:15
the kind of stuff that works if you have a good pass rush and you
30:18
have good corners who you can trust to play press man to man one on
30:22
one, leave him on an island kind of coverage, and that might work
30:26
this year. When you've got Will Johnson and you've got Mason Graham, and
30:29
you got Kenneth Grant, and you've got you know, you've got some talent.
30:32
This is gonna be a talented Michigan defense. I don't know how that's
30:34
going to work in twenty twenty five when some of those guys leave and then
30:38
you're looking at the recruiting rankings and all that, and you know that there
30:41
is not a Will Johnson sitting behind Will Johnson right now on the Michigan bench.
30:45
So we'll see how how that goes, but it certainly is it.
30:49
You know, if he if he does what he typically does. It sounds
30:53
like that's sort of a high risk, high reward thing. But Kevin,
30:56
they might have the talent this year with everyone they've got coming back on defense
31:00
to actually pull that off. Well, let's not forget that they were hiring
31:04
Joe Colan up until the second that they weren't hiring Joe col And they bring
31:07
in Wink Martindale the next day and within hours he is the guy and gets
31:15
the job. So was that the end of their due diligence or was he
31:18
just like kind of the end of their list and they're like, oh,
31:22
all right, well, you know, we gotta have somebody, somebody's got
31:26
to do this. Yeah, they certainly. I mean, if they can
31:30
they keep people from bolting on the defensive line, is that I mean,
31:33
that's really the question. I mean, you have the super super talented defensive
31:38
tackles. Those are the two guys I think of first with the defense,
31:42
with Will Johnson being adjacent, and then you know there's some other guys.
31:47
But I mean, they did lose some some big pieces. This hire just
31:51
kind of feels like, I don't know, I've not talked to any NFL
31:56
personnel about it. Yet I've not had the opportunity because everything else that has
32:00
happened today, it just seems like something, you know, a name that's
32:05
kind of bounced around, and he's had his high points and he's had his
32:07
low points. And as Tony he said on Baltimore, when he had great
32:12
athletes, they did fantastic. And when he didn't have great athletes in New
32:15
York, I mean, we kind of saw what we got there. And
32:20
will he have enough great athletes across the board to be able to do the
32:23
things that it is he wants to do. I don't know enough about what
32:27
his you know, what his uh, you know, real methods are and
32:31
what he likes to do. I mean, how much of a departure is
32:35
it from Jesse Minner and things like that? Are they going to have to
32:37
relearn a lot of things there? A lot of times we talk about,
32:40
well, coaches want to come in and put their system, but the real
32:44
successful coaches come in and adapt their system to what the talent is that they
32:46
have, and then you then you recruit toward what you would like your system
32:51
to be. What will Martin Dale's been around the block more than a couple
32:54
of times. I think that he has an understanding of that, but an
32:59
understanding and execution are not always congruent well, and I would expect to these
33:04
step back this year. I don't know how big, just because it's year
33:07
one of a new system, new defensive coordinator. We saw Gen Knowles in
33:12
year one improve the defense because it needed to improve, but you've seen it
33:17
was better this past year. So I'm not expecting the elite wink Martindale defense
33:22
just yet, just because it takes time for guys to learn it and master
33:27
it. So I think there'll be some time that it takes for that to
33:30
happen. And in terms of the transfer window, it is I think exactly
33:35
two weeks left that Michigan players have to hit the portal. We'll see,
33:40
We'll see. They have held the things together so far pretty well. I
33:44
don't think I've seen anyone of any consequence going there out of Michigan since Harball
33:47
left. That was obviously one of the big pieces of keeping sure on Moore,
33:51
as I think they were planning and keeping the staff together as well,
33:52
and that has not worked as well as the roster. But so far,
33:58
so far, no notable Michigan names heading into the portal since since Harball left
34:04
Tony, I did want to bring this one up from Billy Tuesday, from
34:07
game show host to college football coach. What a career arc The universe took
34:10
away Parker Lewis, Ohio state placekicker from us he entered the portal, So
34:15
we did not get to make that tired Ohio nineteen eighties reference visa the Ohio
34:19
State football, But Tony, we do get Wink Martindale references all the way
34:22
down now when we get to talk about Michigan. So you know, I
34:25
think it all worked out. Okay, I do like somebody tweeted at you
34:29
that instead of that he should have to call plays into a skinny microphone.
34:34
I thought that was fantastic. So yeah, all all kinds of eighties and
34:38
seventies next to that, and and I can we is it okay to cross
34:49
pollinate, cross reference other game shows or does it have to be Wink Martindale
34:52
only game shows, because I think that's the truer sense. How far off
34:57
the path do we go when we do that? Just let's set the groundwork
35:00
now. Yeah, I had to look up Wink Martindale game shows this morning
35:06
just to make sure I wasn't confusing him, you know, like, oh,
35:07
that was actually a Ray Combs game show or whatever. Like I wanted
35:10
to make sure we stayed stayed true to the source material initially. But yeah,
35:15
I think he has a lot of He has a lot of game shows.
35:19
He hosted a lot of game shows over the years. I was remembering
35:22
him hoping hosting Supermarket Sweep, but apparently that did not happen. I got
35:28
different guy, different game show host looking guy. Yeah, I got Mandela
35:31
affected on Wink Martindale, former host of Supermarket Sweep. But it was Yeah,
35:37
there's he there's a lot of source material. I think we stay true
35:38
to the source material right now and don't don't branch out yet until the uh
35:43
until the original material gets uh gets tired and gets worn out. When if
35:49
something goes back, can we say tic tac no as opposed to Tic Tac
35:52
dough, which was always a great show of his. That that seems like
35:58
yes, that that seems like that. I will I will definitely allow that
36:00
one. Hollywood Hagar says, what's good, guys, do you think he'll
36:04
run the no huddle, no mercy offense, Kevin, I'm not expecting Chip
36:08
Kelly to run the Chip Kelly offense as much as I'm expecting Chip Kelly to
36:12
maybe make slight variations or slight tweaks to the Ryan Day offense. I think
36:16
with having a veteran quarterback and Will Howard, you do have the ability to
36:22
send him to the line with a couple of plays and be able maybe to
36:27
run a quicker offense. I don't think. I mean it was something we
36:30
said earlier in the show. It's not going to be the absolute machine gun
36:35
speed of the Oregon offense. It's just not where we are in terms of
36:40
football today. I mean, you do have teams that obviously run faster than
36:44
others, and I think Ohio State has the ability to do that. But
36:47
it's been they had, you know, last year, it was Kyle McCord
36:52
in his first year. I mean, I don't think they're going to immediately
36:54
throw Will Howard out and say here you go, you got free range.
37:00
I mean whether or not we have headphones in the in the helmets by that
37:04
point or or whatnot, because you know, nobody would want to steal signs
37:08
or anything like that. But uh no, I don't I think that you
37:14
need to try and find a happy medium there, run tempo when you can.
37:17
I what drives me crazy is when they run up to the line like
37:21
they're going to go, and then they step back and then undoubtedly somebody jumps
37:23
offside because as a false start, because they just can't hang on. It
37:29
just seems like a real self inflicted wound when you do that. And just
37:34
to get some thoughts from some of our x's and o's guys, Justin Whitlock,
37:37
who's one of our ex'es and o's guys at bucke huddle dot com tweeted,
37:39
the Kelly Hire checks all the boxes. Chip can call it in game
37:43
plan the offense with Day's help will free up Day for culture slash program management.
37:46
Chip can focus on the ball and let Day and heartline recruit. Let
37:51
Day be the CEO. Former big time head coach can mentor Day on how
37:53
to be the CEO. And it also Tony frees up Ryan Day potentially potentially
38:00
we don't know what the tenth coaching spot is going to be yet, the
38:01
tenth assistant, but potentially freeze up Day to spend some more time with the
38:07
special teams. Yeah, and that's what he wants to do. And when
38:10
We've talked about this in the past. I said that, you know,
38:15
you don't need a special teams coordinator, but if they don't land an offensive
38:19
coordinator who calls plays, And I think all of the assumptions right now are
38:22
that Chip Kelly will call plays if you don't land somebody that calls plays,
38:24
and that takes Ryan Day away from special teams, which then may cause him
38:29
to bring in a special teams coordinator. So this would seemingly, this offensive
38:34
coaching and this offensive coordinator higher would seemingly open up a defensive spot for an
38:39
assistant defensive line coach, a linebackers coach to replace Jim Knowles, let him
38:46
just be the coordinator, or you know, however you want to do it.
38:50
So yeah, that's something we haven't touched on yet and shouldn't have taken
38:53
thirty eight minutes. Tom, I'm just gonna be honest with you, this
38:55
should have been the lead story for this, that they this higher means no
39:00
special teams coordinating, everybody goes celebrate and and now watch as this entire thing
39:05
has been one mystery after another in terms of trying to trying to get information
39:10
correct information about information, and we're saying there's going to be no special teams
39:14
coordinator, and then tomorrow the first coaching announcement will be an Ohio State has
39:20
hired a special teams coordinator and you can all thank Tom. Yeah, that's
39:25
it's not a given. There is still a vacant spot on the coaching staff.
39:30
And you know, that could end up being James Loernettis, that could
39:34
end up being a defensive line coach in waiting, that could end up being
39:37
a special teams cordntor that could end up being something else. Entirely, we
39:40
will have to kind of wait and see. David Brown says, two of
39:44
us are wearing UCLA blue. And while that is I mean my undershirt is
39:47
kind of UCLA blue, and Tony's as well. I got to tell you,
39:51
when I got dressed, I was not anticipating doing a live show from
39:54
an ice rink. So here we are. This this seems to be a
40:00
kind of a common thread these days, as stuff is just kind of constantly
40:02
happening. You know, we had a pretty good sense that the Bill O'Brien
40:07
to Boston College thing was a had a pretty good chance of happening, and
40:10
that Chip Kelly had a pretty good chance of being the next guy. I
40:15
was not expecting, though, Kevin the Chip Kelly News to follow the Bill
40:17
O'Brien news quite that quickly. Where it was, you know, one thing
40:22
happened and then boom, you know, it's like someone pulled the fire alarm
40:27
and Chip Kelly's already outside the building. Yeah. We I was doing Big
40:31
Me Kickoff and went about an hour fifteen. At about the fifty five minute
40:35
mark, somebody even put something in the comments, It's like, Chip Kelly
40:39
is happening. I'm like what. So I pulled up my social media,
40:44
pulled up Twitter and saw the Pete the Amill Report. I'm like, well,
40:47
we can just erase the previous fifty five minutes of this show and we'll
40:52
focus on the next twenty. As it appears this is kind of happening.
40:57
Was not my anticipation that it was going to happen this quickly. And something
41:00
I pointed out on the show too, was that when it comes to a
41:04
coaching search, it's either the most obvious guy or the least obvious guy.
41:07
So I wasn't willing to push all my chips in on the most obvious guy,
41:10
which was Chip Kelly. You know a lot of other names had been
41:14
kind of floated around by fans and whatnot. I certainly think that Jason Kandell
41:19
was a name that was kicked around the first time around. And then lo
41:22
and behold. Ohio State just wanted to beat the news dump on Friday,
41:25
and I appreciate them for doing it earlier. I mean, granted, Ohio
41:30
State hasn't put out a release. I haven't seen a contract or anything like
41:32
that, but this might allow me to have some Friday beers. Here's from
41:39
PB. Didn't chip Kelly help invent the current spread offense? I remember Urban
41:43
saying something about learning a great deal about the offense from chip Kelly. I
41:46
mean, this is kind of late two thousands, Tony, and you know
41:50
Rich Rodriguez generally created credited with inventing the Reid option, and chip Kelly kind
41:55
of went off of that a little bit. Urban mind went off of that
42:00
a little bit, and then chip Kelly went off of that a little bit
42:01
more and ran what he called the blur offense where they were going, you
42:05
know, tempo, tempo tempo. Snapping the ball with thirty three seconds left
42:07
in the play clock at Oregon, that's not really what they do anymore.
42:12
And I think if you look at the more recent versions of the Chip Kelly
42:16
offense, I think everyone looks back and thinks, de Anthony Thomas and Michael
42:21
James and you know a bunch of little little skinny, thin guys running around,
42:27
you know, running, you know, soft, gimmicky. You look
42:30
at some of the recent UCLA offenses, that's not what they've been. They've
42:35
not been running that the tempo tempo tempo thing like they did Oregon. And
42:38
get to remember, a couple of years ago, everyone was sure the LSU
42:42
might myself included, everyone was sure LSU was gonna go into the Rose Bowl
42:45
and just mash, just crush UCLA and UCLA just be there. But like
42:52
this is, this is not the cute, little gimmicky, cartoony, fancy
42:55
you know, fancy uniforms the offense that it used to be. No,
43:00
And you look at I mentioned earlier that is the first two years at UCLA
43:05
were kind of difficult, and then they got better. At the last four
43:08
in twenty twenty and twenty twenty one, they were second in the Pac twelve
43:13
and rushing yards per game. Twenty twenty when they were second, it was
43:15
two hundred and thirty yards a game. Twenty twenty one it was two hundred
43:20
and fifteen yards a game, and they're just a few yards out of first
43:22
place on that. In twenty twenty two they led with two hundred and thirty
43:25
seven yards rushing per game. This past year was not a great year,
43:30
they still led the Pac twelve in rushing one hundred and ninety eight yards per
43:34
game and really four point nine yards of carry, which also tells you that
43:39
they just consistently ran the ball and there weren't necessarily a bunch of home runs,
43:45
but they just stuck to it. And this was with two quarterbacks who
43:49
weren't all that consistent, especially the true freshman Dante More and so you had
43:53
to work your way around that or through it. And so the running game
43:58
aspect of this, I think is what should really excite Ohio State fans.
44:01
I know everybody talks about the the up tempo, and we've already done that.
44:06
They'll run at the tempo that Ryan Day wants. Now will Chip say,
44:08
hey, I like to run it more? Because remember when Tom Herman
44:12
took over Urban Meyer when he was hired at Ohio State in late November after
44:16
the Michigan game, said that I'm not really a fan of no huddle.
44:21
Like I like the quarterback. I like to have a hudd on. I
44:23
like the team to look at the quarterback and the eyes, you know,
44:27
when he's giving it their play, so that they can you know, be
44:29
ready and they can you know, just feed off of the quarterback. And
44:34
then Tom Herman gets here, He's like, yeah, I like to boom
44:37
boom, boom boom, And you know, he convinced Urban Meyer let's do
44:39
this. Let's move move at a faster pace. With Ohio State's defense and
44:45
their skill. I do wonder if Chip Kelly will be more comfortable going at
44:51
a faster pace because he doesn't have to he doesn't have the same defense to
44:54
worry about. He's not trying to protect his defense necessarily. Now, Jim
44:59
Knowle's gonna be like, hey, let's slow things down a little bit.
45:02
But also, you are playing, you would hope, sixteen games this year,
45:08
So do you really need to try to fit eighty five plays into a
45:12
sixteen game schedule? Like head coaches want more and more plays, but with
45:19
more games, I do now wonder if they maybe all become a little bit
45:22
more conservative, at least at the top of the food chain. Well,
45:27
it's an interesting question because if you know, if you are the more talented
45:30
team, you want more plays, because the more plays, the more likely
45:36
it is you're going to have, you're gonna you know, talent will win
45:39
out over a larger sample. That's kind of how it works. If you're
45:42
the you know, if your army or your navy, you're trying to you
45:45
are not as big, you are not as fast, you're not as strong,
45:49
and you are trying to limit the number of plays when you're playing Oklahoma
45:52
or someone like that, because they are bigger and faster and stronger, and
45:53
you are trying to give them as few obsessions as you can possibly allow them.
45:58
If you're the more talented team, you want more possessions, you want
46:00
more snaps, you want more opportunities to let your superior athletes go do what
46:05
they do. So I think, broadly speaking, Ohio State is probably going
46:09
to view this as an opportunity to run it maybe a little more tempo,
46:13
because if you go three and out and you have a quick, fast three
46:15
and out, well you have a pretty good defense. And that pretty good
46:19
defense is pretty much the whole defense from last year at plus Caleb Downs,
46:22
which seems good. So if I'm Ohio State, I'm probably running a little
46:28
more tempo stuff to give myself the opportunity to take advantage of the variance and
46:32
the chances to really just have my individual talent win out over the other guys.
46:38
I think it's also an opportunity, though, Kevin, to do what
46:43
Jim Harbaugh does. You don't have to learn every lesson from Jim Harball.
46:45
There are lots of lessons you probably should not learn from Jim Harball. But
46:49
the lesson that I think you do learn from Jim Harball is, hey,
46:52
work in all your guys. If you have eighty plays instead of sixty five,
46:55
that's fifteen more plays where your second team guys, your third team guys
46:59
can get in there. That probably helps keep guys from jumping in the portal.
47:01
That gets guys more ready for the future, and you're still keeping your
47:05
starters fresh. Yeah, as long as you're running your offense and your defense.
47:10
I mean, Ohio State has played its younger defensive guys and games that
47:14
have gotten out of hand, but it's been a little bit of a challenge
47:17
offensively for them to get guys there. Oh, well, these guys need
47:21
to play more football. Well, your young guys aren't playing any football and
47:24
then they're leaving. So yeah, if you do run quicker, and I
47:30
guess in theory in doing so, you do get games put away sooner.
47:36
You can get your twos and your threes and your fours out there. But
47:38
you can't just sit there and do that and student body left student body right
47:42
it. You've got to get out there do some things. You know,
47:45
you've got Will Howard for a year, you're going to have to trot somebody
47:47
else out there. Next year. You know that you're probably you're not going
47:52
to have Travion next year. You're probably not going to have Quinn Shawn next
47:55
year. You need to make sure that you're getting Dallen and the young kids
47:59
some run there. You want to make sure that you don't have a Noah
48:02
Rogers situation. A kid with all the talent in the world who takes off
48:06
and homesick is homesick. And I don't know what level he would have had
48:10
to play to not be homesick. I think he still would have been homesick.
48:15
But yeah, I think that running quicker and getting a couple more plays
48:20
in there is good if you do the right things with it, and it's
48:22
just not more garbage time, all right. So here's one from Jeff Spangler
48:30
says, will we get a press conference with Kelly? I thought it was
48:31
weird no press conference for Bill O'Brien. We have been sort of told that
48:37
they're working on it. The TV term is efforting, they're effitting a press
48:42
availability with some of the assistant coaches. There was no way in heck that
48:45
we were going to get a press conference with Bill O'Brien's jobs at US up
48:50
in the air. So we got Ryan Day earlier in the week. We
48:52
are still hoping. We've still been told they are working on getting us the
48:57
new guys. We got the transfer guys already, we have not kind of
49:00
true freshman yet be graduate. To get the true freshman'd be great to get
49:02
the off of the assistant coaches once Chip Kelly gets here. That's certainly a
49:07
possibility. We will see on that one. Uh. Here's one from Odysseus,
49:12
Tom, Tony and Kevin thoughts on a live pre Super Bowl Hobbin Niro
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eating challenge. Tony, who you got? Oh? I got? Kevin
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Kevin's a pepper guy, so he's he's experienced with that time. I think
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you you tap out on what's you go to garlic? I think he's on
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the wings. I think he'll go relatively hot. But you're a pepper person.
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Well, yeah, I don't think there's any winner because, yeah,
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just because of human biology. Yeah, it's I'm probably not eating a ton
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of Habin Niro's. I'll eat I'll eat Hlopenos, I'll eat Hall Ofpenos,
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just kind of raw. But yeah, Hobbin Niro's are a little a little
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more. I am old enough to know better at this point, so that
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we'll probably yeah, that will probably. Yeah. No, I strongly agree.
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I don't know if you saw me nodding along, I was strongly agreeing
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there, Kevin Jim Gore wants to know just Julian say and transfer out with
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the loss of Bill O'Brien. No, I mean he went to Ohio State
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for Ohio State. He didn't go necessarily because of Bill O'Brien. I you
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know, I could come out and give you eight hundred words on why I
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don't think it's going to happen, but I just I just I don't think
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it would happen. It was not a I'm following Bill O'Brien there. I
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mean, he left, Nick Saban left, Julian Sayan isn't going to go
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to BC. I'll tell you that. I mean, if if this was
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a Bill O'Brien situation, then we would have him on transfer watch to Boston
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College. But that's just you know, that's just not the case, especially
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with Ohio State in twenty five kind of being wide open and what quarterback could
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be. Yeah, and that's going to be interesting what that twenty twenty five
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quarterback position looks like twenty twenty four. It feels like there's a lot of
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sentiment out there that it's going to be Will Howard this year, and that
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would make sense. Last I mean, Ryan Day was asked about whether he
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viewed Will Howard as the starter of this year, and you know, sort
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of punted on the on the question but said, well, it's his last
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year, so I'm sure he does view himself as the likely starter, and
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he came here with the intention of starting. So that's both an answer and
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not an answer. But it does feel like there's there's certainly a very even
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if it is Even if it is Will Howard this year that twenty twenty five
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quarterback battle between whoever else is there is? You know, is Devin Brown
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still there? Lincoln keenholes ar Nolan Julian saying, you know that you've got
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three of those names. I just said, we're five stars and the other
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one was a high four star. So tons and tons of talent in that
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in that room. Still, let's see scrolling through some questions here. Yeah,
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and you know, Sean said people were concerned that Chip Kelly was not
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going to be able to recruit well enough at Ohio State. And Sean says,
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Ohio State isn't bringing him into isn't bringing him into recruit You know,
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if you need a a offensive coach to help with the recruiting, you do
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have Brian Hartline there. Brian Hartline is still kind of an overseeing kind of
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coach on that offensive side of the ball. Ryan Day obviously on that side
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of the ball as well. I don't you know outside of recruiter too.
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Oh yeah, and and you have you know, if his position, you
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know, positional group here is going to be quarterback, well, they've already
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got a twenty twenty five quarterback, so they're you know, you're in pretty
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good shape for a few years. So I don't I don't think that recruiting
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is going to be that That's not his primary job function. When I asked
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Brian Day about evaluating coaches, he did talk about recruiting being a part of
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it. But that's not really Chip Kelly's primary job function, just like Tony.
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It's really not Jim Knowles's primary job function either, right, But you
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know, Chip Kelly is a known quantity, So even if he's not like
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the most endearing person or anything like that, Quarterbacks think of the offense and
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the points. But also it's it's Ryan Day's offense. It's Ryan Day's team.
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They're going to play for Ryan Day. Did you guys happen to find
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it interesting when C. J. Stroud accepting his Offensive Rookie of the Year
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award, thanked Ryan Day and thanked Todd Fitch, who is like the assistant
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quarterbacks coach, the QB analyst, if you will. I found that interesting.
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But yeah, this is this is a Ryan Day thing. This is
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not a Chip Kelly thing. And so I I initially had some concerns just
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because of, you know, the lack of recruiting that he may may or
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may not have, but it's one position, and that's Ryan Day's position.
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And quickly too. The way Ohio State recruits two different ways, positionally and
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territorially, you're responsible for your position, and then you're gonna have a territory.
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Give Chip Kelly out on the wet west coast, Ohio State doesn't have
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a real hit a large hit rate out there, but I think with him
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being the head coach of UCLA and everything else, it's going to open up
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some doors. And maybe when you sit there and you bring in the position
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coach, you're going to get some wins there. But yeah, if you're
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a quarterback, if you're Jared Curtis or your oh god, what's the name
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of that big kid out of Florida that we all fell in love with at
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the camp, if you're one of these guys, you're more concerned with Ryan
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Day than you are with who the QB coach is. I mean, And
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that's just a reality. Well here's another reality. It is after four o'clock.
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We are pushing an hour. It is fifty nine or so degrees outside.
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Is February, Okay, go on, go on, go on,
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everyone, Before you leave, hit the thumbs up, but then go outside
54:42
enjoy this wonderful, beautiful weather. Thank you for sitting in here with us
54:45
for an hour as we kind of broke down the news of Bill O'Brien's departure
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for Boston College, the reports of Chip Kelly will be replacing him at Ohio
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State. There's gona be much more to talk about on both of those fronts,
54:55
especially the Chip Kelly front, and some of the other fall up from
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Ohio State. We're expecting another assistant coach being named probably by the middle of
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next week or so. That was sort of the timetable that Brian Day put
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on it. So we may have another Ohio State assistant coach coming in in
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the next week or so. Some recruiting stuff happening, some big names already
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sort of already in the class of twenty twenty five, and some more sort
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of on commitment watch, potentially got potentials, a whole bunch of transfer portal.
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If you've been in the chat here, you've seen lots of transfer portal
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speculation. We're gonna be talking about all that at bucke huddle dot com.
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