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Babyface Ray Talks Detroit's Evolution, XXL Cover, Major Label Deals, New Music + More · The Breakfast Club

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Speaker 1: Morning. Everybody is DJ Envy and Chilu Yee, Charlomagne and
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Speaker 1: the guy. We all the breakfast club. We got special
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Speaker 1: guests in the building. Yes, indeed, baby face, Ray you
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Speaker 1: know whatever you're going to my brother? How are you, sir?
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Speaker 1: Wonderful first time up here and you really are a
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Speaker 1: nice guy. Lucky bought me some flowers for my last
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Speaker 1: week of work. You know, you know, you know you're
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Speaker 1: here a point special requests I am. Yes, Angelie wanted
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Speaker 1: you up there for a last week last week. Yes, yeah,
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Speaker 1: I spoke to Liabia and you know, of course I
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Speaker 1: got to have baby face because you've never been up
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Speaker 1: here before and you've been grinding for a long time.
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Speaker 1: And I saw just recently made the Double XELF freshman list,
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Speaker 1: this last one. But you deserve it all. So how
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Speaker 1: did that feel? He gave my flowers? I give him
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Speaker 1: his flowers. You feel good? You know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 1: You know how when you're coming up, you're doing your thing,
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Speaker 1: you always want to make the double Silliest, So feel
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Speaker 1: good to make the list fun. You know before you
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Speaker 1: and you still got the baby face, so yeah, kind
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Speaker 1: of I think the hair changes it when you had
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Speaker 1: been on me oh face Ray lately. But you gotta
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Speaker 1: think about that with names like that, you know what
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Speaker 1: I mean, whenever you put a little on your name
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Speaker 1: or young or baby. I've been trying to change it.
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Speaker 1: This is what Ray face. That's why I came out.
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Speaker 1: But then it scar face, you know what I mean,
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Speaker 1: That's what we call face face mob. You know, I
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Speaker 1: don't know that's why I got it, you know what
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Speaker 1: I'm saying. I'm just trying to be the new I
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Speaker 1: think it's too late, the new face. Yeah, if you
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Speaker 1: feel with the double X cover, you feel like it
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Speaker 1: was you should have had it a year ago show.
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Speaker 1: I think everybody feel like that, dude, But I don't
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Speaker 1: know how the process is when they're doing what they're doing.
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Speaker 1: But I still appreciate. I'm grateful for that though for
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Speaker 1: a show. What do you think change? You think that
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Speaker 1: they were just sleeping on you? Or do you think
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Speaker 1: that you did more this year? What do you think
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Speaker 1: it is? Or the city more popping? Now? I think
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Speaker 1: the city more popping. They the light on Detroit, so
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Speaker 1: it's like they just came through and figure it out. Nah.
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Speaker 1: I guess it's interesting. We've been saying for the past
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Speaker 1: couple of years at least, I've been saying that the
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Speaker 1: best rappers are coming from Memphis in Detroit, and your
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Speaker 1: name always comes up. So it's just like, it's not
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Speaker 1: like people didn't know, no, no, no, no no, they knew,
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Speaker 1: they knew. I don't know what it was. I guess
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Speaker 1: he was in line first. How many people have been
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Speaker 1: trying to sign you? Because even with the new album,
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Speaker 1: we see that you have a lot of collaps on
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Speaker 1: face also, right, and so I'm sure that there's a
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Speaker 1: lot of artists out there that have labels and a
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Speaker 1: lot of people are like baby Face array he's the one.
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Speaker 1: And so what was that process like for you? Because
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Speaker 1: I can just imagine what your phone is like with
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Speaker 1: people are trying to say, we gotta get him. Really,
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Speaker 1: I really don't get to traffic like you go through
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Speaker 1: our manager. I'm pretty sure it'd be a lot of
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Speaker 1: people to a cross paths with They'd be from different labels,
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Speaker 1: they'd be like, we are little to hell, you know
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Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But I don't never engage it to conversational.
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Speaker 1: I'll just keep keeping pushing. It's not something you want
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Speaker 1: to do. I mean, eventually when it's that time. I
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Speaker 1: ain't that time. How do the artists know when it's
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Speaker 1: that time? Now? This I got this thing. I feel like, man,
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Speaker 1: you you don't really need you really don't need to
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Speaker 1: go to no major label until you get a hit
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Speaker 1: into you, a necessity probably already. I feel like you
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Speaker 1: get in there right now. It ain't They ain't gonna
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Speaker 1: really be thinking much. They won't you because you you
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Speaker 1: know you're coming up. But if you ain't really laying
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Speaker 1: like that, like, how are you supposed to be laying?
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Speaker 1: Don't go? Yeah, I feel like, oh, that's interesting because
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Speaker 1: it's kind of like not that you could just put
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Speaker 1: your toe in the water, because you can put a
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Speaker 1: song out, yeah, and if it go then you'll know
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Speaker 1: whether you need some more back in behind it or
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Speaker 1: that show. They'll take you now, the label will take you,
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Speaker 1: I feel like. But me personally, I feel like it
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Speaker 1: ain't time yet. Let's I want to talk about, you know, music,
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Speaker 1: the music scene in Detroit right there's so many different
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Speaker 1: crews and clicks, and Detroit music is doing so well.
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Speaker 1: How does all of the artists get along? Do y'all
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Speaker 1: all get along? Let's it's still separate ways? Yeah, everybody cool.
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Speaker 1: It ain't no friction in the most of the people
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Speaker 1: that's got the motion right now, like you know, baby money,
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Speaker 1: I square vessel peasy. Just you know, everybody, we all
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Speaker 1: really kind of like came up together for really, you
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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So it's like a natural thing.
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Speaker 1: He doing this thing, I'm doing my thing. You ain't know.
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Speaker 1: It's really all love for real, you know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 1: And plus you'll running to each other a lot too. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: for sure, for sure you'll be outside. I dropped off
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Speaker 1: all some product to you, guys. I would tell everybody
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Speaker 1: care I pulled right up to your studio in your
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Speaker 1: if you pulled up on me in the Lamborghini man
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Speaker 1: with its being sprinted truck behind him that was fla presentation.
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Speaker 1: Has some security behind me just in case. No you Gucci.
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Speaker 1: That's what everybody said. But that's the window. You would
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Speaker 1: recommend that anywhere in Detroit, fan, you are just in
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Speaker 1: your in your area. No in Detroit, period, Ain't you know.
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Speaker 1: It's I think the perception on Detroit kind of missed up,
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Speaker 1: like trait not what people make it out to be.
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Speaker 1: It's cool for real, you know what I'm saying they
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Speaker 1: don't be on that. I don't know for really, if
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Speaker 1: you ain't did nothing, you know, you feel that I
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Speaker 1: don't know the changes and you feel the changes in
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Speaker 1: the city though, because you've seen it has changed a
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Speaker 1: lot in the past few years. Yeah, you know, what
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Speaker 1: are some of the positive things that you would say
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Speaker 1: now as far as like the evolution on Detroit. Were
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Speaker 1: they building a lot? You know what I'm saying, um
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Speaker 1: pretty much that like they invest in a lot, any
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Speaker 1: trait something big about to happen out there. And then
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Speaker 1: you know, you got the music scene as rising and
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Speaker 1: doing what it's doing. The sports team's getting a little better,
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Speaker 1: even though we're still a weak but but at least
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Speaker 1: the Pistons in downtown. Yeah, Pistons downtown. We got a young,
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Speaker 1: good team. You know what I'm seeing, Lions, they're gonna
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Speaker 1: and you be at the games. I'm loving to see
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Speaker 1: the block the black entpreneurs like you know, you see,
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Speaker 1: I'm owning dispensaries now out there. There's a lot a
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Speaker 1: lot of restaurants out there. That's what I love to
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Speaker 1: see in Detroit. I'm seeing a lot more black people
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Speaker 1: owning their own businesses in Detroit. I'm seeing that a lot,
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Speaker 1: and I'm loving that. Yeah, I think Detroit has been
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Speaker 1: on that like for a while. You be out there
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Speaker 1: doing your one two things. Yeah, I love. Are you
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Speaker 1: making good investments? I know you've got your songs spending.
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Speaker 1: Are you spending your money on the I'm not making
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Speaker 1: I ain't even in a really state of none of
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Speaker 1: that yet. Like, I ain't even happen to none of that.
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Speaker 1: I've been so locked in the focus on the music.
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Speaker 1: I ain't even ventured off and start investing and doing
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Speaker 1: none of that. You just spending all your money on women. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: you know, Yeah, that's my investments triggering. Yeah, I'm trigger now.
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Speaker 1: I'm playing the ladies love a song like that though,
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Speaker 1: and a video where you know it's it's a nice field.
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Speaker 1: Ladies love gifts and they love money. They live being treated.
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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I always say they ain't
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Speaker 1: triggering if you're worth it, No, for sure, if the
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Speaker 1: woman is worth it, ain't tricked. And you said you
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Speaker 1: like women who are also doing things with their life too,
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Speaker 1: not just sitting back waiting for you to bring everything home.
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Speaker 1: I got this line, man, I know a swan from
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Speaker 1: a duck. You know who to spend the money on it?
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Speaker 1: Who not to spending money on You're gonna know? So
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Speaker 1: how many Christmas gifts you gotta buy this year? Baby face?
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Speaker 1: Ray one? I ain't got, I ain't gotta. I ain't
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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. One gift for my lady, I
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Speaker 1: ain't on that. Yeah, see there you go. Try to
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Speaker 1: get him to do this service. He was like, I
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Speaker 1: don't know if I could do that way. Now I
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Speaker 1: can come up there. I'm gonna come up there message
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Speaker 1: because you know you've been talking crazy up there though.
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Speaker 1: Are you too big to be out? You were talking?
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Speaker 1: You're talking crazy on side, not me. You know, we
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Speaker 1: take it where you take it. I'm gonna come check
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Speaker 1: you out. Though. Then when she asked you, if you ask,
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Speaker 1: you're gonna be regretting it. I am. I'm gonna be
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Speaker 1: cool because I don't do that. You know what I'm saying?
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Speaker 1: What come on? Now? I'm Gucci and y'all got a
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Speaker 1: Gucci story in Detroit? Now what I love it? That's amazing.
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Speaker 1: I was right downtown so if they built it, I
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Speaker 1: walked right in there, like, man, what y'all got going on?
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Speaker 1: It's cool? Though they got some good shit in there. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Now you dropped your last out Face in January, did
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Speaker 1: you feel pressure to follow up in the same year?
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Speaker 1: H Yeah, yeah because it did so well, you know
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Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But it is what it is. I
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Speaker 1: feel like the same formula, same room. You know. Do
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Speaker 1: you feel like you gotta like stay in these people's faces?
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Speaker 1: Nowadays many got the Internet, social media, like new stuff
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Speaker 1: happening every day, so you gotta stay really stay creative, steak,
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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, competitive all of it. I
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Speaker 1: just wonder about that with younger artists because it's like, man,
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Speaker 1: it feel like you can water yourself down real quick,
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Speaker 1: or it could feel like people can forget it, forget
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Speaker 1: about you real quick. It depends on how you do
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Speaker 1: it too, though, Like some people do water theirself down
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Speaker 1: and put too much content in music out. But if
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Speaker 1: you're playing in private the right way, I feel like,
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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, it's gonna make sense. And
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Speaker 1: the quality of it too, yeah, Like you can't just
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Speaker 1: put anything out. And even when Face you added songs
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Speaker 1: to it too, like you did a deluxe version right
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Speaker 1: like kind of right away. And it's crazy when I
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Speaker 1: did a deluxe. It's like the Deluxe got a better
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Speaker 1: response than the regular takeing know what I'm saying. I
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Speaker 1: did the Deluxe on the like one night, you know
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Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So that's crazy. We were talking about
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Speaker 1: when we go to different markets, the ogs in that
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Speaker 1: market and do they mentor the younger rappers or do
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Speaker 1: they even funk with the younger rappers? Have any of
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Speaker 1: the ogs or Detroit mentor the funk with you or
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Speaker 1: put you on the game. Yeah, my mentors and ogs,
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Speaker 1: you know what I'm seeing the people rappers per se No, no,
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Speaker 1: no rappers. Oh yeah, will kinda yeah, you know what
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Speaker 1: I'm saying. But Nah, the ogs, I know that I
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Speaker 1: came up on it. Yeah, they mentor and kind of
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Speaker 1: like that. They're the reason why I'm structured and moved
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Speaker 1: how move Nah, you know what I'm saying, because I
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Speaker 1: came up what they taught me, You know what I'm saying. So,
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Speaker 1: who I know? You and um Paz are really tight.
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Speaker 1: Who did you come up with? Like, grew up with,
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Speaker 1: went to school with and started rapping with early on? Yeah,
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Speaker 1: from me with GT. GT. Uh Me and GT actually
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Speaker 1: went to middle school together, you know, what I'm saying.
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Speaker 1: So we've been we've been in the marching band, you
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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Together all of that VARs from
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Speaker 1: our neighborhood, Peasy from the neighborhood too, and Paz up
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Speaker 1: the street, you know what I'm saying. Me and GT
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Speaker 1: being cool and Peasy became friends, you know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 1: And Ice was already from our neighborhood, used to get
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Speaker 1: on our school bus and all of that. I kind
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Speaker 1: of made the connection from Paz Ice Wood Vessel and
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Speaker 1: we all electively became a group together, you know what
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Speaker 1: I'm saying, like some real brother you know. But it's
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Speaker 1: we all came up together, for sure. That was teenyaside. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: all right, So now everybody's is the band getting back together?
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Speaker 1: That'd be dope because you're all successful in you're own
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Speaker 1: right Um, Everybody locked in the focus on what they're
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Speaker 1: doing right now. I feel like everybody's trying to get
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Speaker 1: what they can get. You know, it's been so long
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Speaker 1: since we even had an opportunity to do any of this.
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Speaker 1: So everybody in mode and they own mode right now.
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Speaker 1: But it's gonna happen sooner, you know what I'm saying,
10:28
Speaker 1: well made you want to be part of the marching band,
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Speaker 1: Like did you already have I'm sure you already had
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Speaker 1: a love for music, but well, my granddad recipes. He
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Speaker 1: just passed away. He was always listen to Miles Davis.
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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So when I got to
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Speaker 1: middle school and the marching band was available, and I've
10:45
Speaker 1: seen the trumpet, I'm like, let me try it out.
10:46
Speaker 1: I'm not even knowing it's marching. You know, it's different
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Speaker 1: type of band. So I played the trumpet. It just
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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. That was from my granddad
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Speaker 1: types or do you still play? Are you? No? No,
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Speaker 1: it was over with I got once I got the
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Speaker 1: high school, it was it was on a college time
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Speaker 1: and where they was making you wear white T shirts
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Speaker 1: and be crabs and you know, hayzes and you will
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Speaker 1: make you do. I'm like, man, come on to most
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Speaker 1: of them is taking that thing, taking that instrument on
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Speaker 1: the bus. That's what most people are like, I'm not
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Speaker 1: taking that trumpet on no. Hecky know it. It was
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Speaker 1: cool in middle school, it kind of got corny in
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Speaker 1: high school. They ain't trying to see that for real. Nephew,
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Speaker 1: didn't rap, But you think you would have been doing
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Speaker 1: Oh no, ain't no telling, man. That's why you know
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Speaker 1: what I'm saying, I'd probably be in the streets trying
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Speaker 1: to you know, get rich for real. No cat, That's
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Speaker 1: why I look at this as a blessing. You know
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Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I don't take it for granted. I
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Speaker 1: try to stay out the way of these cats. You
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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Keep my face clean because I
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Speaker 1: know I get you know what I'm saying. Somebody said
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Speaker 1: that baby Face gonna last forever because he doesn't promote
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Speaker 1: violence or drugs. He just get flied and get money.
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Speaker 1: Ye'll see that what you thought about it? Um? Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I agree. I don't promote violence, and you know what
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Speaker 1: I'm saying, I do talk about it sometimes because it's
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Speaker 1: just you know, yeah, what's going on around you know.
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Speaker 1: But I agree with them for sure. Is that I
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Speaker 1: can't watch this effort not to do that. Huh? Is
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Speaker 1: that a conscious effort not to do that? It just
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Speaker 1: is what it is with me. What I'm saying, I
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Speaker 1: ain't known that type of sound. You know. Did you
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Speaker 1: have any hesitation when they offered you a spot on
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Speaker 1: the freshman list for Double XAL for sure, for sure,
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Speaker 1: I ain't even want to do it for real, Andy,
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Speaker 1: And I'm like, well, might as will do it? You
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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying this, I ain't gonna front act
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Speaker 1: like I don't want to be on a double X sale.
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Speaker 1: I've been friend on myself, so I needed because that's
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Speaker 1: something I wanted to do for you. Well, do you
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Speaker 1: feel like that because they fronted on you? Or yea?
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Speaker 1: I feel like they front on me, But it probably
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Speaker 1: ain't front on me. They probably just wouldn't thinking about
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Speaker 1: me at the time, you know what I'm saying. Sometimes
12:39
Speaker 1: you'd be thinking in our head that overthinking the situation,
12:42
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like man, y'all overlook, they
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Speaker 1: don't even be that. So what do you think was
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Speaker 1: like a turning point for you? For it? Because I
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Speaker 1: felt like before the pandemic, you know, everybody locally knew
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Speaker 1: who you were, and I felt in the music business.
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Speaker 1: But then all of a sudden, everybody's like baby face
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Speaker 1: very one of my favorite What do you think was
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Speaker 1: a turning point? When that happened? I dropped the EP
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Speaker 1: man called for you, you know what I'm saying, And
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Speaker 1: My whole plan when I did the EP was I
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Speaker 1: knew that we couldn't go outside. Everybody was listening to music,
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Speaker 1: and I called my cameraman and told him the whole play.
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Speaker 1: I said, I'm not shooting no videos. I'm not putting
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Speaker 1: nothing nowhere else but on iTunes so they can go
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Speaker 1: straight to it. And that's the EP that had Paperwork
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Speaker 1: Party number one fan. After I dropped that on my
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Speaker 1: phone kind of started blowing up. Different labels started calling.
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Speaker 1: That's how I even got introduced to bearing Line for real.
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Speaker 1: She was working at Interscope and they was trying to
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Speaker 1: give me a deal and we I'm like, just be
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Speaker 1: my manager, you know what I'm saying, And she kind
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Speaker 1: of came do and help strength for me. So I
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Speaker 1: say the EP was what hunting around for me. That's
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Speaker 1: great because you hear like, you know, for a lot
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Speaker 1: of people, especially during the pandemic, they were really feeling
13:51
Speaker 1: like I don't know what I'm gonna do. Yeah, I
13:53
Speaker 1: was like that for you, I ain't gonna I was
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Speaker 1: lost and sus you know, we we come from rap
13:57
Speaker 1: hustling meaning versus and shows. That's how we're making our
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Speaker 1: money for real. So when a pandemic hit. It was
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Speaker 1: kind of like, damn, what we're gonna do. The trade
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Speaker 1: was getting to the money, though, no for sure, because
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Speaker 1: we ain't know what this spake. Once we figured out
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Speaker 1: all that, you know, what was going on with the
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Speaker 1: pandemic and how they I ain't do none of that stuff,
14:15
Speaker 1: but all the money came to me because a lot
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Speaker 1: of people was buying features and you know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 1: So I appreciate that money was flowing man. Yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 1: I heard they had cop tech outside with the jewelry
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Speaker 1: stories because everybody was buying so much jewelry. Man, was
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Speaker 1: a line outside of the jewry stuff, like people just
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Speaker 1: buying stuff just about and I got that value ended
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Speaker 1: up going back down. Yeah, yeah, I got a missed up.
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Speaker 1: What's the importance of having a manager? I don't think
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Speaker 1: people talk about that enough because I even think about,
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Speaker 1: like for somebody like you who was getting hot and
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Speaker 1: then you start getting booked for shows, like how do
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Speaker 1: you know when to go up on your show prices
14:50
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. So what's the importance of a manager? Man?
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Speaker 1: I feel like it's key because it's only so much
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Speaker 1: you can do as an artist, you know, what I'm saying,
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Speaker 1: you need to stay locked in and handle your business.
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Speaker 1: Having a manager. It's very key depending on who it is. Though.
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Speaker 1: You know, some managers be in it just because they
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Speaker 1: want to be in it. Now, you gotta find a
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Speaker 1: manager that's really in sync with you and that's gonna
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Speaker 1: help you push your you know what I'm saying, your
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Speaker 1: movement and what you your agenda is. Some cats be
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Speaker 1: trying to manage just to manage because they see you
15:18
Speaker 1: get a little friction just you want to be around.
15:19
Speaker 1: But it's important for show. Caroline will fly out to
15:24
Speaker 1: wherever you add and make those And it's also like
15:26
Speaker 1: connecting an artists. Yeah, you know that maybe you wouldn't
15:29
Speaker 1: have had that interaction with otherwise. I was just telling
15:33
Speaker 1: somebody they was talking about signing new artists and all
15:38
Speaker 1: of that. I'm like, man, y'all gotta people gotta start
15:40
Speaker 1: like getting with the artists and chilling with them and
15:43
Speaker 1: learning their character before they start moving forward with the
15:46
Speaker 1: business and whatever. You know what, You never know what
15:48
Speaker 1: they might be on. It might be something you don't like.
15:50
Speaker 1: I feel like social media got at the point, Oh
15:52
Speaker 1: he's he's fired, I'm gonna sign him and then you
15:55
Speaker 1: sign them and you get with him. You don't even
15:56
Speaker 1: like this person. So it's important to get with people
15:59
Speaker 1: and learn them, you know what I'm saying. But they're
16:01
Speaker 1: probably not even looking at you as a person. They
16:02
Speaker 1: probably just looking at you as a product, not for seure.
16:04
Speaker 1: So you're out there real quick, mixing money, move on
16:06
Speaker 1: to the next thing. That's that's what they're doing. I'm
16:08
Speaker 1: already knowing that for sure. So that important to you too,
16:11
Speaker 1: Like before you signed to a major label, would you
16:12
Speaker 1: want to get to know the exacts and everybody else
16:14
Speaker 1: over That's why I'm locked in with Empires so much, Okay,
16:17
Speaker 1: I'm saying, like because of the relationship, how they deal
16:19
Speaker 1: with me and how we deal with each other. Like guys,
16:21
Speaker 1: you're always answering the phone, Nima, always answering the phone,
16:25
Speaker 1: even if I ain't talking about music. I just want
16:26
Speaker 1: to kick it with them about something. They with it
16:29
Speaker 1: and they're touching right down, tinto they wherever you want
16:32
Speaker 1: to want them to come. They pull them right up.
16:33
Speaker 1: They're not tripping. You know what I'm saying. You would
16:35
Speaker 1: think that by guys, he being ahead of the label,
16:38
Speaker 1: he wouldn't be like They're like, dude, ain't really tripping
16:40
Speaker 1: like he wherever you need them to be and young
16:43
Speaker 1: with you as long as you handling your business though,
16:44
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And guys, he loves Detroit artists,
16:48
Speaker 1: man Detroit letters. Detroit artists love guys. You gotta think
16:52
Speaker 1: about how many bags he then came and dropped on
16:55
Speaker 1: guys through there. People ain't even think we weren't gonna
16:58
Speaker 1: get money off rep. So for guy to come through
17:00
Speaker 1: and get distribution deals out like how it was, he
17:03
Speaker 1: was a blessing. Yeah, you never thought you would make
17:05
Speaker 1: money off rap coming from the Detroit. You know, we
17:09
Speaker 1: were selling CDs at first, So when the streaming eric
17:11
Speaker 1: came out, I didn't well, I didn't know how to
17:14
Speaker 1: even make the money off streaming. I was lost, Like
17:16
Speaker 1: I didn't know how to upload it or nothing. So
17:19
Speaker 1: once I figured it out, it was like damn, you know.
17:22
Speaker 1: And a little chick that was coming monthly, I thought
17:24
Speaker 1: I had hit the ceiling. Oh it is it right
17:26
Speaker 1: now I'm making I'm doing my CDs and I'm making
17:29
Speaker 1: my monthly checks. I'm cool. Did you ever feel like
17:32
Speaker 1: you had to leave the city because you know how
17:34
Speaker 1: some people felt like, Okay, I gotta move around. Maybe
17:36
Speaker 1: I gotta move to Atlanta. I gotta move to La No, no, no.
17:40
Speaker 1: Everybody be trying to get me to move away from
17:42
Speaker 1: the city. I'm trying to turn the city up. Man.
17:44
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie. I'm trying to buy big state
17:48
Speaker 1: of art studio, bringing the motime fail back. You know
17:51
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, try to help create some new opportunities
17:54
Speaker 1: for the artists. That's coming up on him, saying, how
17:57
Speaker 1: did you know you were starting to get the buzz
17:59
Speaker 1: outside of Detroit? When did you first realize that people
18:03
Speaker 1: from all over the world calling there, no big names
18:06
Speaker 1: tapping the in just saying they like my music, wasn't
18:09
Speaker 1: I So it's like Dan's going down. Well, I think
18:13
Speaker 1: you're right about that, though. Now is the time to
18:14
Speaker 1: stay there because I see they have they haven't built
18:17
Speaker 1: a new studios show Troits a beautiful place. I love Detroit,
18:23
Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of action, a lot of money.
18:25
Speaker 1: They are a lot of artists and a lot of
18:27
Speaker 1: community there. That's the main thing about Detroit. So when
18:30
Speaker 1: you make your records, now now you know independent route,
18:33
Speaker 1: do you think about the record you make like do
18:34
Speaker 1: you try to make a radio record or you just
18:36
Speaker 1: keep it till no. I try to stay away from there,
18:39
Speaker 1: just trying to make it certain individual records. If it's
18:44
Speaker 1: a radio song, then it's somebody like telling me like, man,
18:46
Speaker 1: this something good for the radio, like an idea, and
18:49
Speaker 1: we're going with. But I don't be in the studio
18:50
Speaker 1: like it's trying to make a club bangering. I'm really
18:53
Speaker 1: just going off the natural feeling and what's going on.
18:55
Speaker 1: I feel for Yeah, what was happening when you really
18:57
Speaker 1: spend it? Man, I was in the studio my man
19:00
Speaker 1: Pool be shout the pooh and he had already had
19:02
Speaker 1: to beat in the hook owner already and he was
19:05
Speaker 1: just playing it, playing and playing it. He's like, I
19:07
Speaker 1: think you should put a verse on there. And I'm like, man,
19:09
Speaker 1: this really ain't my swag. Like, man, trust me, and
19:12
Speaker 1: I put a verse on there and we hear not's
19:14
Speaker 1: going crazy. Ain't gonna What makes it not your swag?
19:17
Speaker 1: Because you see me like tricking on the ladies, Well, lady,
19:20
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say it's not my swag. Just you know,
19:22
Speaker 1: just how to meet the songs. This radio typestyle, it's
19:26
Speaker 1: it's different from what I'm putting out, it ain't about
19:28
Speaker 1: the ladies. Like you know, I love the ladies for show,
19:31
Speaker 1: and I definitely agree that you need to spend it
19:33
Speaker 1: if you're dealing with them, you know what I'm saying.
19:35
Speaker 1: But I'm just saying the style of the song, you
19:37
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I wish artist understood that radio
19:40
Speaker 1: is so lost right now. Radio don't even know what
19:43
Speaker 1: a radio record is, you know what I mean. So
19:45
Speaker 1: it's like if you play music and get it popping,
19:48
Speaker 1: eventually radio gonna come. I think the radio thing and
19:51
Speaker 1: we didn't kind of lost it a little bit because
19:53
Speaker 1: of the streaming and social media. You know what I'm saying.
19:56
Speaker 1: I don't even think people listen to the radio they're
19:59
Speaker 1: going to work or what not or something like that.
20:01
Speaker 1: But that's no, that's a fact. I think that I
20:03
Speaker 1: forgot what the actual number is. But it's like majority
20:06
Speaker 1: of people who listening to radio listening when the commuting
20:08
Speaker 1: in their cause I'd be taking my daughter to school,
20:11
Speaker 1: and that's what I'm your radio. You know what I'm saying.
20:13
Speaker 1: I was gonna ask you know, when I pulled up
20:15
Speaker 1: on you in Detroit, you had a bunch of artists
20:17
Speaker 1: as well new artists as well. So who are some
20:19
Speaker 1: of the new artists that we should be looking at
20:20
Speaker 1: with that you're working with? Um when you pulled up,
20:23
Speaker 1: I was actually at my homeboy spot, uh Lo Segnetti.
20:27
Speaker 1: Who my guys. You know what I'm saying. I helped
20:30
Speaker 1: jump start their career. You know what I'm saying. I
20:33
Speaker 1: actually pay for their first video and you see what
20:35
Speaker 1: you pull it up to. They got a whole brand building, clubwood,
20:38
Speaker 1: studio and everything, and that's just off of me putting
20:42
Speaker 1: the blueprint down for them. But you know, Lo Segnetti,
20:44
Speaker 1: you gotta get what gave you the knowledge do that
20:46
Speaker 1: because a lot of people, you know, it's hard for
20:48
Speaker 1: them to help other people unto they feel like they
20:50
Speaker 1: made it, made it. But you you you've seen something
20:52
Speaker 1: in them that was like, I'm gonna help these brothers out.
20:53
Speaker 1: It's just what people did for me when I ain't
20:56
Speaker 1: had nothing going on. The places my ogs me and
21:00
Speaker 1: what they showed me and what they allowed me to
21:03
Speaker 1: do when I wouldn't have an emotion was like everything
21:06
Speaker 1: because it taught me, Like it taught me about the
21:08
Speaker 1: things that I wanted to get, wanted to do and
21:11
Speaker 1: it also taught me what not to do, you know
21:12
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So, but I always remember them reaching
21:15
Speaker 1: back and help me up. So it's a natural thing
21:18
Speaker 1: for me. If I see somebody trying and trying to
21:21
Speaker 1: do something, I'm an instantly like with all no payment
21:23
Speaker 1: and none of them, like I ain't even trying to
21:25
Speaker 1: get none out of just like, oh you on that,
21:27
Speaker 1: come on, let's get it. You know what I'm saying.
21:28
Speaker 1: A big deal. That's how is it? I believe that,
21:33
Speaker 1: you know? But what about the song nice Guy? Let's
21:35
Speaker 1: talk about that for a second thing, because kind of
21:38
Speaker 1: the opposite of this conversation, because sometimes people do take
21:41
Speaker 1: advantage when you're being a nice guy ninety percent of time.
21:45
Speaker 1: That's what it is. Somebody trying to take advantage of
21:47
Speaker 1: the opportunity. Regardless it don't matter how kind hearted you
21:51
Speaker 1: is or not, they still gonna be a voter and
21:53
Speaker 1: try to know what I'm saying. So that's what the
21:55
Speaker 1: nice guy song was about for real life. Just if
21:58
Speaker 1: you know me, you know my character, you know my heart,
22:01
Speaker 1: like you know what I'm on. You know I'm just
22:03
Speaker 1: a nice guy, period what I'm saying. So the song
22:06
Speaker 1: was me just saying that it ain't no more that
22:09
Speaker 1: sometimes people treat you crazy. You know what I'm saying,
22:12
Speaker 1: when they see you on that type of time. You
22:15
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, People like that just playing themselves though, Yeah,
22:18
Speaker 1: I mean, because all they're doing is burning the bridge,
22:19
Speaker 1: ruining a relationship. You know, I agree, So they're really
22:23
Speaker 1: not playing you, And I think that's something for us
22:26
Speaker 1: to have to learn to like to set like we
22:28
Speaker 1: always talked about setting boundaries because once you do something
22:31
Speaker 1: for somebody, certain people will appreciate it. Some people will
22:34
Speaker 1: continue to always keep asking you for things, and then
22:37
Speaker 1: you might got to say no, and then all of
22:39
Speaker 1: a sudden you the worst person. Literally literally what you're
22:42
Speaker 1: saying for sure, Well no more missed a nice guy here. No, No,
22:47
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna change. I ain't gonna change my way
22:50
Speaker 1: like I still gotta be me regardless. I ain't about
22:52
Speaker 1: to switch because y'all other people crazy. You know what
22:55
Speaker 1: I'm saying, I'm gonna keep doing. I just gotta be
22:57
Speaker 1: more careful or what I'm giving my energy. You know
23:00
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, time too, But you gotta sat boundaries.
23:02
Speaker 1: But you are who you are, I mean so if
23:04
Speaker 1: you if you're that type of person, you're gonna be
23:06
Speaker 1: that type of person, regardless of how many people burn you.
23:09
Speaker 1: No shore, and besides music, what other aspirations do you have?
23:13
Speaker 1: I always liked the basketball until I once again got
23:17
Speaker 1: in a high school and figured out was too little
23:19
Speaker 1: to even pursue that, So I scratched that off. But
23:23
Speaker 1: really good though, Yeah, I was all right. I ain't
23:25
Speaker 1: gonna lie if you saw me on the Crew League
23:28
Speaker 1: or anything of that nature. I've just been out of shape,
23:30
Speaker 1: so don't blame me for that. But somebody, somebody watching
23:34
Speaker 1: this right nowhing I used to bust his ass. No, no,
23:38
Speaker 1: he didn't do too it. On the Crew League. We
23:40
Speaker 1: won the first game, we lost, the walking up the hat,
23:41
Speaker 1: me checking, walking flocking. Y'all know how big he six.
23:45
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Yeah it was bad, But um,
23:49
Speaker 1: I like fashion. I'm kind of in a fashion, and
23:51
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie of music. It ain't no playing
23:54
Speaker 1: b for me. Like music is what it's gonna be
23:57
Speaker 1: for me. I feel because I remember how music used
24:00
Speaker 1: to do for me at a young age, change my
24:02
Speaker 1: move my attitude and all of that. So regardless if
24:05
Speaker 1: i'm rapping or doing whatever I'm doing, I'm gonna be
24:07
Speaker 1: doing music something some way somewhere with them fanning an
24:11
Speaker 1: artist or something to help. You know what I'm saying,
24:13
Speaker 1: Like music gonna be a part of my situation for
24:16
Speaker 1: a minute. What about acting? Acting? M I always wanted
24:20
Speaker 1: to ask for show a little movie, so I don't
24:23
Speaker 1: think I can do it though it's terrible. Listen, you
24:26
Speaker 1: gotta be like if they do a McGraw app three
24:29
Speaker 1: or something, yeah, I already told them to sen know, like, man,
24:32
Speaker 1: y'all do McGraw just calling me? It's little yeah, because
24:36
Speaker 1: they're allowed to see you in something like that. My
24:38
Speaker 1: mama wants me to ask men. She'll always be telling
24:40
Speaker 1: me like you're gonna be a big movie start even
24:42
Speaker 1: right now, Like what's going on? She's like, you know
24:44
Speaker 1: you're gonna be in a movie one day, all right,
24:47
Speaker 1: So why are you not listening to your mama? Now?
24:49
Speaker 1: I'm listening to her for the show. It's just like
24:51
Speaker 1: when i'd be doing my little acting scenes when my
24:53
Speaker 1: whist name be so, I mean, like, man, I ain't shit,
24:55
Speaker 1: I mean I can't cuss, but oh yeah, I'm doing
24:58
Speaker 1: my little acting I'll be like, I ain't ship real.
25:00
Speaker 1: So who you comparing it to? Though? Man, I'm watching everything,
25:04
Speaker 1: all the movies. Don't tell me. I knew he was
25:06
Speaker 1: gonna see that I'm watching this even I knew he
25:12
Speaker 1: was gonna say. Look, every's acting Now it is what
25:16
Speaker 1: movie that was in? Um, it's a gay point, it's on,
25:21
Speaker 1: it's on point. Don't believe. No, it's a show. CBS
25:25
Speaker 1: is called East New York and I was on that
25:27
Speaker 1: this here's a snitch. WHOA, I'm not a snitch. It's
25:30
Speaker 1: just acting snitch. It's an acting role. No, you could
25:36
Speaker 1: be the next Den's out. No, I know what characters.
25:41
Speaker 1: Won't you play that? Don't answer that. You know what
25:44
Speaker 1: I want play? Don't don't even answer that. Don't let
25:48
Speaker 1: him put you out, keep putting you. Don't do that.
25:53
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna play. I'm not even gonna say I
25:55
Speaker 1: want to play a snitch. You know what I'm saying.
25:57
Speaker 1: I'm yeah, I'm hoping himself bad to say that. Just no,
26:01
Speaker 1: I'm open, kids, I'm thinking about some of my favorite
26:06
Speaker 1: movies and the characters in them. So I'm open like
26:08
Speaker 1: all the my movies. Yeah, look, my movies, my thing. Sure,
26:13
Speaker 1: all right, there you go. Well albums bought bottom some weed,
26:17
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, pulled up, give your head really smoked like them.
26:22
Speaker 1: What about the edibles? He gave me some and give
26:24
Speaker 1: no edibles. I just bought every the whole crew. Whatever
26:26
Speaker 1: you brought me in view was like all the little
26:29
Speaker 1: homies right there. We passed it out and they blew it. Yeah,
26:31
Speaker 1: we're gonna we're gonna come back there Christmas time. We
26:33
Speaker 1: go come back to everybodyhood and drop post some more stuff.
26:36
Speaker 1: Small packages. That showed me so much love, so I
26:38
Speaker 1: just want to show it back, shout the slurred and
26:39
Speaker 1: then we're gonna bring some some toys I think we're
26:41
Speaker 1: gonna do the toys too for the kids. We're still
26:43
Speaker 1: in that demo demo you put down came through Lamborghini.
26:46
Speaker 1: I think we need to see that you're still in that,
26:48
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And we pulled up in
26:50
Speaker 1: every hood hood. But I thought that was you know,
26:53
Speaker 1: if I make money in the hood in the city,
26:54
Speaker 1: I like to spend money in the city. I mean,
26:56
Speaker 1: get it, give it back. Do you gamble? Like, do
26:58
Speaker 1: you be going to MGM or mode the city? I
27:01
Speaker 1: ain't gonna lie be going MGM a lot lately, just
27:04
Speaker 1: just going on. They're playing black jack? How you been
27:06
Speaker 1: doing it? Started off good, but now it's like never
27:10
Speaker 1: get up out of it or now you're triping. It
27:12
Speaker 1: never ends good. I started my first three times, I
27:16
Speaker 1: was just creeping out of there, winning like seven eight thousand,
27:18
Speaker 1: just leaving. What about on sports? You've been on sports sometimes?
27:22
Speaker 1: I watched the game, man, whoever losing, I bet the margin, like,
27:27
Speaker 1: I bet they're gonna come back. That's the easiest way
27:29
Speaker 1: the winning. I feel like, what's the most you wanted
27:32
Speaker 1: the casino? Probably like eleven thousand, ain't crazy. What's the
27:37
Speaker 1: most you lost? M? Probably fifteen? Damn it, man, you
27:44
Speaker 1: don't try to get it back that. I ain't going
27:46
Speaker 1: back up. I ain't want them gamblers. It's gonna sit
27:48
Speaker 1: there and let you eating that. I ain't doing that.
27:51
Speaker 1: So asking him something, doing what you want to hear? Oh,
27:55
Speaker 1: we're gonna spend it. You know. It's how that they season.
27:57
Speaker 1: We're gonna spend it. Okay, spend it, baby face, and
28:00
Speaker 1: it's the breakfast. Can appreciate you for joining us, Yes,
28:03
Speaker 1: thank you, it's my last week. Thank you for my
28:04
Speaker 1: present for spending it. Thank you for having me appreciate you.
28:07
Speaker 1: All right, it's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, baby face, right,