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James Franklin Fired, Alabama Beats Mizzou, Ohio State Over Illinois & Indiana is LEGIT | Charlie Marlow Show · Kenny Wallace Media

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  What's up, everybody? We are live.
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  You are live. You are looking live.
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  Charlie Marlow here talking about a crazy, crazy weekend of
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  college football. Not just the games, of course.
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  The biggest news, James Franklin fired.
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  You're fired. You're fired at Penn State.
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  This dude, James Franklin, they get to the Final Four last year,
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  play couple plays, whatever it is.
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  They're they're playing Notre Dame from being in the College
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  Football Playoff national championship game and James
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  Franklin fired. What's he getting, 49 million,
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  50 million, whatever, whatever the number is, whatever that
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  buyout number is, James Franklin being told, see you later, see
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  you, Jimmy, see you, James, take your 50, schmill.
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  Whatever it is, we're going to move on without you.
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  And that happened Sunday. Just a crazy, crazy story.
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  Penn State losing to Northwestern.
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  And when you see all the pictures and video of James
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  Franklin hugging his players after the game, you just got to
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  wonder if he knew it was coming. So when I saw the news Saturday,
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  I was kind of shocked. Maybe I shouldn't have been just
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  for it to happen that fast. And I always wonder too, like,
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  how are those calls made? If you're going to sign a check
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  for $50 million, not all at once, but still, if you're going
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  to pay a coach $50,000,000 to leave, does the big oil tycoon
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  booster call somebody up and go, hey, let's make the move, I'll
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  pay, I'll pay half. It's a terrible accent.
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  And also it's Pennsylvania, probably don't have an accent.
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  I don't know where the money comes from.
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  Maybe Tech, whatever it is. When I say Tech, not Georgia
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  Tech, I mean like Tech AI. Maybe it's AI money, who knows.
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  But James Franklin, 53 years young, He was at Penn State
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  longer than I thought. Since 2014, a record of 104 and
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  45 with the Nittany Lions, 64 and 36 in the Big 10.
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  Remember, he was at Vanderbilt before that, helped turn
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  Vanderbilt into a top 25 team for two years.
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  And look at Penn State the last three seasons, finishing fifth
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  in the polls last year, 13th the year before, 7th the year before
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  that. As I'm looking at his Wikipedia,
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  I see they finished ranked seven of his years in the top 10, five
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  of his years. But look, Penn State, they think
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  they can do better. It's hard to argue with that.
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  Penn State's a powerhouse. Is it fair to call it a?
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  Is it a blue blood? I mean, it's not Ohio State,
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  it's not Alabama. Obviously, Joe Paterno took it
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  to a different level, I think in the Big 10.
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  I know Michigan's kind of down this year, but Big 10
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  traditionally, always Ohio State, Michigan.
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  I always looked at Penn State. Just a tick below.
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  Now you have Oregon in there. Whatever happens with USCUSC is
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  not obviously where they were during the Pete Carroll era.
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  I just wonder though, I just wonder if if Penn State is
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  really that great of a job. It's a very, very good job,
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  don't get me wrong. I think it's one tick below a
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  blue blood. And again, that's no disrespect
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  whatsoever. Can they find a better coach to
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  take them to the promised land? I feel like maybe they already
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  know they can. Look, I saw that comment from
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  Matt Rule. Matt Rule obviously coaches
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  Nebraska. When you look at Matt Rule
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  turning programs around, like look at his overall record in
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  college football, it's not that great.
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  He was bad in the NFL with Carolina, but his overall record
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  in college is not that great because he's turned programs
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  around, Turned around Temple and then left and went to Baylor,
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  Turned around Baylor, goes to the NFL, comes to Nebraska.
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  In the process of turning Nebraska around.
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  I believe Nebraska is five and one.
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  Yes, Nebraska right now, five and one ranked 25th in the AP
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  poll. They are technically 27th.
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  They're receiving votes in the coaches poll.
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  But I bring that up because Matt Rule is a guy who went to Penn
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  State. He was asked about it.
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  He said I love Penn State, met his wife there.
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  He didn't say no. He said he wants to build
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  Nebraska up. He surely didn't say no, though.
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  To me, that's probably your guy. You go after Matt Rule.
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  Does Matt Rule leave for his alma mater?
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  I think he would. And I think people, even at
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  Nebraska, they'd be pissed about it.
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  Nebraska, you're no longer a blue blood either.
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  Maybe you could become one again, but you're not right now.
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  I think even, look, I know college football fans are crazy.
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  I think even if you're a reasonable person, you'd
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  understand why Matt Rule would feel the calling to go to his
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  alma mater, Penn State. There's probably very few jobs
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  Matt Rule leaves Nebraska for. Penn State is most likely one of
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  them. We'll see what happens there.
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  James Franklin, you know, all the numbers, could never win the
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  big one. Terrible record versus top five,
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  top ten, top 25, whatever it is. I think I saw Ohio State, he was
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  one in 10 versus Ohio State. And that's what I'm saying.
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  I've never really looked at Penn State.
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  And I'm, I'm an Ohio State fan. I think most people know that.
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  But I never really looked at Penn State as a big game.
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  And I don't mean that disrespectfully.
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  A lot of those years, Penn State was ranked very high.
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  Just as an Ohio State fan, you're judged by Michigan and
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  national championships. That's just the way it is now.
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  In some years, you have schools come in.
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  Penn State's really good. I mean, look at Indiana.
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  We're going to talk about Indiana.
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  Obviously the Big 10 is bigger now you have Oregon and all
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  that. We'll get to it.
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  But I, I can't be really mad at Penn State.
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  They, they probably said, look, we were #2 in the country, we
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  thought it was our year. They play a close game versus
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  Oregon, but then they go and they lose 2 more.
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  You lose against Northwestern. Is this guy, is this the guy
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  that can ever take us over the hump, over the mountaintop?
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  And I think it's fair to say that after whatever it is 1112
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  seasons, Penn State said, you know what, James?
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  Nothing personal. You're not the guy.
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  We need someone else. You you've taken us very far.
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  You've taken us to the final Four, top 10, whatever it is, we
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  need to hire the guy that can take us to the College Football
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  Playoff national championship game and win the national
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  championship. So yeah, Penn State, they were
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  three and O, they lose to Oregon and double OT.
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  Think about that couple 3 weeks ago, they're number two, number
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  three in the country, whatever it is, Oregon double OT in front
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  of 111,000 people. Then you lose at UCLA 4237, you
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  lose to frickin Northwestern at home and see you later.
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  Take your $50 million. Nice to know you.
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  They got Iowa, they got Ohio State at Ohio State coming up
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  here in a couple of 2-3 weeks. So there you go.
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  Penn State, though, 3 losses, you're not going to make the
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  College Football Playoff. The season is essentially over.
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  Moving on to who you're going to hire as your head coach, Matt
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  Rule, I think is going to be the guy.
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  Kurt Zignetti. If you're Kurt Zignetti, why
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  would you leave Indiana at this point?
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  And we'll talk about that. We'll talk about Kurt Zignetti
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  in Indiana. Obviously with the huge
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  statement win over Oregon, Jeff Castle says Afternoon, Charlie.
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  OK, I did watch a good amount of college football on Saturday.
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  I made a video. I was joking.
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  I hope people know I was joking because my kids had soccer.
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  The 11 AM window Central time was the window for me.
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  Ohio State at Illinois ranked versus ranked Alabama.
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  Alabama at Mizzou. I live here in Saint Louis.
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  Ranked versus ranked 11 AM window.
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  But guess what my my son had soccer at 10:30, ends at 11:15.
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  Don't get home till 11:30. Then my daughter had a soccer
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  game at 2:00, so I had to leave the house at 1:30.
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  That gave me a nice two hour window to watch kind of the the
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  second and third quarters of those games.
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  I have to say, as a Buckeye fan, I was on that game.
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  I never really felt like Ohio State was ever going to lose
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  that game, so I was more locked into Mizzou and Alabama.
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  Ohio State, they did what they do versus Illinois.
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  Illinois kept it relatively close in terms of the spread.
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  Whatever the final score was, I don't even remember something
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  like what was it, 34 to 34 to 16?
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  Buckeyes, it was 34 to 16. I believe that was a 14 1/2
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  point spread. Ohio State looks like the class
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  of the country again. Again, they look really, really
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  good. And also you're seeing some
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  other teams falling off a bit like in Oregon that you thought
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  might be elite. What teams are actually elite?
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  Think it's fair to say the Buckeyes, Miami, I never would
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  have said Indiana until this weekend.
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  You got to give them credit. And then I mean, who in the
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  SECANM, Ole Miss, Alabama, We shall see.
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  Texas Tech. I just saw Texas Tech.
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  Did I read that right that they're spending like $28
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  million on NIL? Texas Tech ranked 7th, 6 and O
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  on the season. They're 8th in the coaches pole.
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  So OK, so yeah, Ohio State look and I and I like Illinois, a lot
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  of Illinois fans here in in Saint Louis.
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  Illinois is not a big game for Ohio State, even when they're
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  ranked like they were. I never thought Ohio State was
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  going to lose that game. I was watching.
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  It was like 10 zip, whatever the score was.
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  Was it 20 to 3 at half something like that?
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  I can't even remember, so I focus more on Alabama, Mizzou.
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  I really wanted Mizzou to beat Alabama.
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  This was just one of those years for Mizzou where it looked like
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  everything was going great. You got a good team, you're at
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  home. Maybe Bama's not as great as in
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  years past. They obviously lost to Florida
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  State earlier in the year. They've turned things around
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  since then and Mizzou played tough.
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  They played them very, very tough.
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  They lose by three, so not embarrassing at all.
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  I think Mizzou is deserving of of whatever ranking.
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  They are right around 15 or so. I know they dropped a little
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  bit, probably really shouldn't have dropped if you think about
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  it. So Mizzou is 16.
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  In the AP poll, they dropped two spots.
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  Mizzou is 16. In the coaches poll, they
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  dropped two spots. So they were 14th, which is
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  fair. I guess if you're going to drop
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  them, whatever, not a huge deal, but you do lose by three points
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  to the number 8 team in the country, Alabama, which is now
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  the number six team. So Mizzou being around #15 feels
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  fair to me. So Mizzou, Eli Drinkwitz, by the
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  way, this kind of gets us back to the coaching talk.
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  Eli Drinkwitz and anybody else, lot of other people in Eli
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  Drinkwitz's tier of coaches and that's a good tier to be in.
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  Eli Drinkwood. I'm, I'm saying he's not, he's
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  not Ryan Day, he's not Kirby Smart, but he's, he's below them
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  a little bit, but still really, really good.
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  Makes a lot of money at Mizzou. I believe it's 9,000,000 bucks.
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  But all those dudes are going to get nice raises or they're going
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  to leave. I'm not saying Eli Drinkwood is
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  going to leave, but there's lots of openings and when you have
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  the coaching carousel and Penn State opens and I mean, who else
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  there's, there's so many openings going to probably be
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  more openings with Florida. And then you just start to see
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  coaches jump in here, coaches jump in there and all of them
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  are going to leverage those openings to a nice raise at
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  their school. Like Eli Drink, what's at the
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  zoo or they could go somewhere else, who knows?
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  But I think you're going to have a lot of interesting coaching
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  movement. Let's see.
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  Let me just let me look this up real quick.
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  How many college football coaches have been fired already
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  have been fired this season? What do we got?
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  I couldn't remember off the top of my head.
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  So, OK. James Franklin, we mentioned
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  that. Brett Pry, Virginia Tech.
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  That's a damn good job. Mike Gundy, Oklahoma State.
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  It's a damn good job. Sam Pittman, Arkansas.
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  Damn good job. Trent Bray, Oregon State, Pretty
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  good job. Deshawn Foster, UCLA.
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  Dang, good job. Has Billy Napier already been
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  fired? Did I miss that?
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  Am I dumb? Has he already been fired?
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  This is going to give me no credibility.
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  OK, I'm seeing all these articles.
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  Florida expected to fire head coach Billy Napier in the near
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  future. I was like, did I miss that?
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  This is where you can't really trust AI.
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  That was the AI overview. So now I feel like I need to
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  check all of those. But obviously Franklin, yes,
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  Gundy, yes, Pittman, I don't know about Bray.
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  This is where you can't trust. AII didn't I didn't think Billy
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  Napier had been fired yet, but that's probably common.
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  So just think about that. Those are some big time
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  openings, some big time openings.
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  There's going to be a lot of coaching movement.
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  A lot of coaching movement, OK. I mean, game ball of the week,
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  Kurt Zignetti and Indiana. I always thought Indiana was
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  kind of a paper tiger the last couple years.
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  Also, they play Ohio State played them pretty close last
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  year. Never thought they were going to
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  beat Ohio State. Indiana's one of those teams
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  where, and again, I'm, I'm saying this as an Ohio State
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  fan, I look this up. Ohio State hasn't lost Indiana
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  since 1988. We're we're pushing 40 years, 37
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  years, whatever that is. But that's my point.
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  Indiana's a nice program, has had some nice seasons.
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  You had 2020 COVID with Michael Pennix.
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  They're pretty Dang good. And I just thought last year
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  they're kind of a nice story, probably overrated in my
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  opinion. And they get beat by Ohio State.
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  They get beat by Notre Dame. Pretty good losses though.
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  I thought they were kind of similar this year, but Dang, you
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  go into Oregon. I think most people thought
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  Oregon was one of the elite teams in the country.
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  Maybe they still are. Look, Ohio State last year they
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  lost early to Oregon. They lost a bad loss to Michigan
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  and still won the national championship.
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  So I'm not going to. I'm not going to write off any
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  team for one loss. I thought Oregon was legit and
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  Indiana went to their house and didn't just barely beat them,
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  beaten by 10 points. That was an absolute statement
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  to everybody, to the college football world, that we IU, we
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  are for real. And a lot of people are making
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  fun of Kurt Zignetti with Google me and all that.
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  Well, yeah, Google him, Google him.
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  He wins. He wins everywhere he goes.
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  Had a great season last year and made the statement.
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  I think it's fair to say the statement so far.
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  Now you can say Florida, Alabama, excuse me, Florida
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  State, Alabama, but but Indiana winning at Oregon.
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  I think the statement certainly of the weekend and the statement
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  of the season. In my opinion, although I can't
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  really remember everything because I don't have the
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  greatest memory, but it is what it is.
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  OK, a lot of talk. I like to kind of follow the
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  college football narratives. Is there an SEC bias with the
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  polls? Are some of these Big 10 schools
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  not getting the love they deserve?
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  You know, I'm kind of a Big 10 honk, but I try to be fair,
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  right? And a lot of people are talking
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  about Washington. I agree with that one.
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  I did watch a lot of the Washington Ohio State game.
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  Washington is a Dang good team. Washington is essentially 28th
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  in the country in the AP poll. Same with the coaches poll.
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  You got some Big 10 teams right at the end there.
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  AP poll, you got Nebraska 25. Then you got Illinois receiving
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  votes, Michigan receiving votes, Washington receiving votes.
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  And in the coaches poll, Illinois 25th, Michigan,
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  Nebraska, Washington receiving votes.
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  So the argument there from the Big 10 is you got all these
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  teams that are whatever what, 5 and 1, four and two.
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  Washington has a really good loss.
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  Now we don't like talking about that, but a good loss to Ohio
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  State. So should those teams be ranked?
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  Is there an SEC bias where if a Big 10 loses to a Big 10 team,
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  you're like, oh, the league sucks, SEC loses to an SEC team.
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  Like oh, it's such a hard fought conference.
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  I do think there's something to that.
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  I do a little bit more so now. I think for years, for about a
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  decade there, the SEC was so good, it was hard to ignore that
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  the SEC was so good that yeah, I I think the the wins and losses
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  meant more in the SEC. You can still make the argument
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  the SEC is probably deeper, I would think than the Big 10 this
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  year. We'll see at the end of the
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  year. But I do think there is some of
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  that where it seems like if a, if a crap or a lower Big 10 team
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  beats a better Big 10 team, it's always like the conference
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  sucks. That happens in the SEC.
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  It's like it's such a great conference top to bottom.
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  I do think there's some truth to that.
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  I don't watch all these games, but just going through let's
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  look at the rankings. Let's look at the rankings.
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  So like Texas, Texas beats Oklahoma, Texas is four and two.
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  I mean, is Texas better than Washington, IL?
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  I mean, I think Texas would beat Illinois.
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  I think Texas would beat Michigan.
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  Washington's a fun team to watch and think about.
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  South, Vanderbilt, Mizzou again, Mizzou.
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  It's hard to go against Mizzou when you're one loss is a
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  three-point loss to Alabama. I think Mizzou deserves to be
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  where they are. Vanderbilt five and one, they
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  lose at Alabama by 16 points. I think that's pretty fair.
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  So I don't know. I don't know if this year that
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  narrative is accurate. Now, if you want to talk about
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  some of these other teams, I'm not going to pretend like I
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  watch Cincinnati, Utah, Memphis, South Florida and all that.
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  Washington's the one team I feel like is more legit than their
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  ranking. And I say that also because I
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  did see Washington in person and they were impressive.
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  They were impressive versus my Buckeyes.
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  leaves, they'll come and clean out all your leaves and blow
• 22:43
  them and do all that. You can buy a leaf blower at
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  Saint Louis Equipment stlmowerrepair.com.
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  Buy a mower, get your mower repaired, small engine stuff.
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  I have a hustle bar and a blower.
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  I bought a fuel mix there. I have the Crest battery
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  operated trimmer even though they no longer carry the Crest
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  products. But that's a fantastic machine
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  and you can buy your salt for the winter.
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  Bulk salt and all that. They have a new location in
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  DeSoto in Jefferson County, Saint Louis lawn care, Saint
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  Louis equipment, my guy. Tim Jenkerson, stllawncare.com,
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  stlmowerrepair.com, and of course, right there, Triad Bank,
• 23:26
  23 minutes in, good college football talk.
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  I did watch a lot. For me, that's about two hours.
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  I watched from about 11:30 to 1:30.
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  And for me, that's pretty Dang good.
• 23:38
  I got two kids, they got soccer, they got all this stuff.
• 23:43
  Ohio State, Illinois Mizzou versus Bama, some good stuff.
• 23:50
  Oregon goes down, shout out Kurt Signetti.
• 23:54
  James Franklin gets 50 schmill to leave.
• 23:58
  Crazy weekend in college football.
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