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Ep94 What We Do With the BIG10 & Ranking the NFL Souths! (p.s. NCF South is still weak!) · Sports Allegedly

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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you gotta go.
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  Speaker 2: How many live from my basement apartment? And this the
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  Speaker 2: patient is on the mend it is for Wort's allegedly.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you got to do your other one.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome, Welcome, now, welcome, welcome everyone. Thanks for joining us tonight.
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  Speaker 3: In the massive day of Olympics.
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  Speaker 2: Yes we've been we've been heavy on the Olympics. But
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  Speaker 2: thanks for joining us on this August fifth, twenty twenty four,
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  Speaker 2: for this episode of sports. Allegedly, Sean am I right,
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  Speaker 2: Kenny coming in over there, the old bag left to
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  Speaker 2: the bag with the old bag. No lots to talk
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  Speaker 2: about today. Obviously, we're going to preview the the Big Ten.
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  Speaker 2: We're also going to talk about NFC and AFC South divisions.
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  Speaker 2: Give our predictions on that. Talk a little ou football
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  Speaker 2: spring camps obviously started. So let's move on. Sean, you
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  Speaker 2: want to pull up a little bit of the Olympic
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  Speaker 2: coverage if we want to talk about I got a question,
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  Speaker 2: what's that?
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  Speaker 3: What are we going to blow up all of Kristen
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  Speaker 3: and made close on it?
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  Speaker 2: We could do that, we could, we could dress them up, we.
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  Speaker 3: Get some get some fundage for the All.
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  Speaker 2: Right, let's pull up the Olympics. We were actually watching
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  Speaker 2: field hockey.
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  Speaker 3: Field hockey. The Argentinians took it from the Germans in
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  Speaker 3: extra time shoot.
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  Speaker 2: It was a shootout. Anything else news on the metal h.
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  Speaker 3: The Americans are still in the lead overall. We were
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  Speaker 3: tied with China.
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  Speaker 2: That was last night.
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  Speaker 3: Last night. We are one down tonight.
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  Speaker 2: China currently twenty one.
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  Speaker 3: I forgot where they got that.
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  Speaker 2: Gold in USA is twenty and then France. But individual,
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  Speaker 2: individual wise, we're leading by quite a bit, to be honest,
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  Speaker 2: right now, so that's as of real time.
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  Speaker 3: You ever notice you ever noticed the host countries always
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  Speaker 3: in the top three, They really do, at least top five.
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  Speaker 2: Sides China and US. I mean, they seem to always.
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  Speaker 3: Be right but but but you know who hosting seems
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  Speaker 3: to always be up there.
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  Speaker 2: And we're killing it in the freaking silver and bronze
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  Speaker 2: again this week actually just two days ago. Update, we
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  Speaker 2: haven't been quite a week.
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  Speaker 3: So all right there, the Germans of sixteen medals, doing great,
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  Speaker 3: and then gold.
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  Speaker 2: Let's get down to the bottom the bottom some ones.
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  Speaker 3: Well, China, China, Taipei has four medals, Zakistan has four,
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  Speaker 3: Bekistan has three.
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  Speaker 2: Probably in shooting and such let's see what we got.
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  Speaker 3: That's racist. Now Azerbaijan has two medals.
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  Speaker 2: Let's go back down to two gold medals. Oh that's
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  Speaker 2: a good average. You see, look at that.
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  Speaker 3: Lithuania has two bronze.
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  Speaker 2: So all the one they'll have gold.
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  Speaker 3: That's strange. No, no, no, we get to Colombia.
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  Speaker 2: Then you got Portugal. Portrait, would be would be in Egypt?
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  Speaker 2: Would give a better? Wouldn't they give it in Cuba? Cuba?
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  Speaker 2: No going on there?
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  Speaker 3: I don't Yeah, I don't know about the training.
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  Speaker 2: Are too worried about in the US.
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  Speaker 3: But anyway, what about Granada? I mean, you know they've
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  Speaker 3: got some serious athletes down there.
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  Speaker 2: Indonesia. I thought Indonesia and Portugal could give it.
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  Speaker 3: Look at poor Austria.
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  Speaker 2: Never heard of her anyway, heard of Austria. We've heard
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  Speaker 2: of Austria. So I just said, I think Arnold got
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  Speaker 2: that bronze, and that's the one I've never heard of.
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  Speaker 2: But I like a salsa fair day. All right, there's
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  Speaker 2: our Olympic update. Let's move on. You want to go
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  Speaker 2: right into it. Let's just do the college Let's just
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  Speaker 2: do the college football. We're gonna talk.
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  Speaker 3: It's just so much Olympics. You wanted to go.
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  Speaker 2: I know it was just the results. I haven't watched
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  Speaker 2: a lot of it.
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  Speaker 3: We have a three by three basketball U s a
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  Speaker 3: now where to be found. I think we got women. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I don't know how that works. I don't know who.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's street ball or something. We we should
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  Speaker 3: have really good street ballers that we should be sending.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's the ice cube ice tea.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it is three.
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  Speaker 2: And I've watched some of that summer that's good.
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  Speaker 3: I enjoy it.
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  Speaker 2: Uh, but I guess it's.
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  Speaker 3: Uh, you know someone Biles took silver and and the
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  Speaker 3: gymnastics artistic the floor final. See, if you just go down,
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  Speaker 3: you find out all the other results. We didn't do
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  Speaker 3: anything in men's horizontal bars. I think we got knocked
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  Speaker 3: out early in that. We got nothing in women's balance,
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  Speaker 3: but god, what is wrong with our.
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  Speaker 2: What is wrong with the team? Them? All?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah? And some of the who's the other really good one?
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  Speaker 2: Kenyon all?
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  Speaker 3: Dannford? Well that's what they got there, Golden the five million,
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  Speaker 3: five million meter final women's discuss, we took first sixty
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  Speaker 3: nine and a half feet.
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  Speaker 2: I'd like to be able to do that at disc golf.
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  Speaker 2: I can get it.
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  Speaker 3: You have the greatest hoppity honey twenty I showed before
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  Speaker 3: I went to surgery. I showed up to Jamie and
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  Speaker 3: he left. It goes people who start shouldn't be doing
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  Speaker 3: run ups, and I was like, yeah, but it was hilarious.
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  Speaker 3: Oh shooting, Uh, where's that guy? Where's Turkey?
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  Speaker 2: I think that's way further down. Yeah, I mean the Olympics.
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  Speaker 2: I mean it's great, brings everybody together. I think it's
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  Speaker 2: you know.
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  Speaker 3: We got silver in the triathlon.
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  Speaker 2: There are so many people that watched the Olympics simply
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  Speaker 2: to not even really watch it, but just to see
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  Speaker 2: how the countries doing, which is really good. So bring
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  Speaker 2: some peace, bring.
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  Speaker 3: Some We enjoyed some beach beach volleyball Canada versus US,
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  Speaker 3: and US got knocked out of that one.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah they lost that.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, I think we were just perverse watching you bull
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  Speaker 3: So he's we're doing Big ten, moving into Big ten.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you were talking to any ou football. I mean
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  Speaker 2: that we did practice this week. Venables top he did
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  Speaker 2: know he released the injury for none. We're pretty healthy Andrew.
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  Speaker 2: He's wearing a boot on his knee, but everything look good.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of compliments on the offensive line, which we've
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  Speaker 2: talked about being.
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  Speaker 3: The you you well, we have talked about it.
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  Speaker 2: It is doing quarterback looks good obviously, Jackson, I love
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  Speaker 2: the Hawkins, the backup guy. The Bowen brothers are going
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  Speaker 2: to be studs. Looks like the best defense we've had.
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  Speaker 3: Well, we have to keep winning to keep him here. Well,
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  Speaker 3: that's that's the that's no.
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  Speaker 2: No, no, no, they'll finish next year because they'll be
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  Speaker 2: they'll be top they'll be first round picks. I mean
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  Speaker 2: they ain't going next year. After next year, well, Teyton
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  Speaker 2: will be and then Eli's just coming in.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I mean it's it's currently hard to keep think
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  Speaker 3: kids on a team because no, I agree, but I
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  Speaker 3: think that the portal and we've talked about that.
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  Speaker 2: But have we lost besides okay, so we talked about that. Anyway,
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  Speaker 2: practice everything obviously positive coming out.
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  Speaker 3: Ou Well, the we we lost a little bit when
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  Speaker 3: Levy left.
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  Speaker 2: Well no, no, no, I'm talking about now. Kaden Green was
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  Speaker 2: the big loss. The perennial freshman guard went to Missouri
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  Speaker 2: this is alleged scene, and then was playing tackle all
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  Speaker 2: spring and then has moved back to guard. So it's
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  Speaker 2: almost like that. He The rumor was that he got
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  Speaker 2: the money for being a tackle, but he's just he
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  Speaker 2: just went back to guard. And I think we, I
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  Speaker 2: think we and we. I'm not saying we upgraded because
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  Speaker 2: he's a hell of a talent, there's no doubt. I'm
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  Speaker 2: not going to say that, but I think they paid
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  Speaker 2: a lot of money for him.
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  Speaker 3: I'm sure they did. I mean, it's just like with
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  Speaker 3: naj Kennedy and she got her one million to go
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  Speaker 3: to Texas Tech, and we know that they're not really
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  Speaker 3: going to be competing in softball.
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  Speaker 2: One of them now when we do our preview for
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  Speaker 2: softball later in the Big twelve, I think they could
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  Speaker 2: be towards the top now.
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  Speaker 3: Because that's only in the Big twelve.
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  Speaker 2: But that's you know, that's what Texas that's overall. I agree.
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  Speaker 3: I tell you're right. I mean, she was strictly for
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  Speaker 3: the money. I and I get it. I get it
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  Speaker 3: that sport is still in its infancy. For the league.
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  Speaker 3: Hell does that league now? The Softball League, the Professional
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  Speaker 3: Softball League.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I don't know, I don't even know what
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  Speaker 2: they're they're getting paid.
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  Speaker 3: But that's what I'm saying. You take that money because
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  Speaker 3: you if you're gonna go and you're gonna do it professionally,
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  Speaker 3: you're not going to be making much money. Because that's
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  Speaker 3: what I'm saying that that that league is is still
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  Speaker 3: young five years maybe is what it is.
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  Speaker 2: I don't honestly don't keep it.
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  Speaker 3: To be honest, I know you don't. If it's not
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  Speaker 3: popular now, then he does not care. No, I just
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  Speaker 3: it's if it's if it's not, if it's just starting
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  Speaker 3: and it's something that that you know, there's more sports
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  Speaker 3: for us to watch. He really doesn't care until it
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  Speaker 3: everybody likes it.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I don't know if everyone's gonna like professional softball.
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  Speaker 3: I really I've wanted a professional softball forever. Oh were
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  Speaker 3: women's basketball.
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  Speaker 2: So talk about OU? They came in preseason that the
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  Speaker 2: coaches pop. Oh yeah, the coach post you talking about?
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  Speaker 2: Coach post spoke came out today. Oh you finished sixteen,
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  Speaker 2: Oklahoma State eighteen. Honestly heavy on top obviously Georgia one,
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  Speaker 2: Ohio State two, Oregon three, Texas four. That's overrated. In
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  Speaker 2: Alabama's five. I could see Texas and Alabama not even
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  Speaker 2: finishing close to that top five. Ole miss falls by
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  Speaker 2: notre Dame Michigan, Penn State, Florida State, Missouri comes in eleven.
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  Speaker 2: First Big twelve.
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  Speaker 3: Team put in Florida State team.
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  Speaker 2: First Big Twelve team is thirteen. And then you've got
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  Speaker 2: you know that was Utahah.
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  Speaker 3: I got Utah, Kansas State.
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  Speaker 2: Utah picked well, Utah, Kansas State, Oklahoma State is gonna
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  Speaker 2: be your best three teams in the Big twelve this year,
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  Speaker 2: and they're picked right where they should.
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  Speaker 3: But I've got Utah pick.
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  Speaker 2: Arizona picked a little high. We talked about the quarterback there,
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  Speaker 2: so he's good.
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  Speaker 3: I think a lot of the offense. State didn't it.
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  Speaker 2: Lincoln Riley in twenty at number twenty three at USC
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  Speaker 2: I giggled about. And Kansas at twenty four, which is impressive.
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  Speaker 2: You know, Kansas is gonna have almost thirty it's either
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  Speaker 2: thirty or almost thirty seniors on their roster coming in
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  Speaker 2: to this season. So don't that that could be a
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  Speaker 2: surprise pick for a lot of for a lot of
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  Speaker 2: people to be picking somebody that could And I'm not
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  Speaker 2: saying they're going to get in that playoff, but if
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  Speaker 2: they win the Big Twelve and only have a couple
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  Speaker 2: of losses, they could sneak into that that twelve team playoffs.
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  Speaker 3: They could so anyway, they said, well, this may be
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  Speaker 3: this may be the first year that Oklahoma State makes
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  Speaker 3: it to the playoff.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, twelve teams, I think, you know, I think, I
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  Speaker 2: think there's a possibility.
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  Speaker 3: But I do know that they're looking heavily at the
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  Speaker 3: SEC and the Big ten taking a lot of those
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  Speaker 3: spots because but you have to have two outside Is
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  Speaker 3: that what it is? Just just two teams from outside
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  Speaker 3: the the power power four down.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know how to get those. Yeah, there's one.
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  Speaker 2: I think I think the.
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  Speaker 3: Main overall champion or something of the.
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  Speaker 2: Well, because they're not taking the Power five and I
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  Speaker 2: haven't even looked at the playoffs, so.
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  Speaker 3: I forgot how they got. And we talked about it
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  Speaker 3: for a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: It's like the kickoff. It's like the kickoff rules for
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  Speaker 2: the NFL and something we're just gonna have to learn
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  Speaker 2: as we go.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, I already know the kickoff rules. You're the one
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  Speaker 3: that has to learn. It's totally fine. It's for players safety.
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  Speaker 2: I understand what they're trying to do. Sorry, I'm sidetracked
• 12:36
  Speaker 2: by the Indians and Diamondbacks. So we went into tenth innings,
• 12:39
  Speaker 2: diamond back or the Indians tied it up in the
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  Speaker 2: ninth and they turn around and give up a run
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  Speaker 2: on the top of the tent. So it's like, wow,
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  Speaker 2: just you just want to give this game away. Indian.
• 12:48
  Speaker 2: Let me tell you something about the Dolans. I want
• 12:52
  Speaker 2: right now, people, people, you didn't go get a good picture.
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  Speaker 2: You should have gave up move to I's too cheap
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  Speaker 2: sell the team. It's ridiculous. It's one of the best
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  Speaker 2: offenses that that Cleveland has had in years, and still
• 13:08
  Speaker 2: they're not giving them any starting pitching. You know, obviously
• 13:11
  Speaker 2: Bieber's out. Beckins he had to go to rehab, not rehab,
• 13:14
  Speaker 2: but it was dropped out because he was pitching horribly.
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  Speaker 2: Bullpen's good. But I mean tonight they've get they've they've
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  Speaker 2: scored six runs in nine innings and they're still losing,
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  Speaker 2: just like they did they scored five or six against
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  Speaker 2: Baltimore in the last game. It's disappointing because I just
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  Speaker 2: I know eventually it's just not gonna work out because
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  Speaker 2: the pitching is just not there. So anyway, moving on
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  Speaker 2: back to ou.
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  Speaker 3: Man, I did not care about any of that. Florida State,
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  Speaker 3: Casetaga White Socks are trying for the biggest loss ever.
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  Speaker 2: I think that uh suck on that.
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  Speaker 3: No.
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  Speaker 2: I was talking about the coaches polls we get before
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  Speaker 2: we get into Big Ten. I thought some of the
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  Speaker 2: overrated teams. Obviously, I've always said Texas this year is
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  Speaker 2: going to be the over rated. I could see two
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  Speaker 2: to three losses from them. Their schedule is easier, obviously,
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  Speaker 2: know you. I've never liked Penn State. They don't have
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  Speaker 2: an offense ever ever, so get an offense. Clemson is interesting,
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  Speaker 2: but their schedule is fairly easy. Tennessee Oklahoma, those are
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  Speaker 2: the two teams. They play each other the first SEC
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  Speaker 2: game of the year. That's gonna be a I mean,
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  Speaker 2: that's a big game for both of them. Josh Heipel
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  Speaker 2: returns back to Norman, where he won a national championship
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  Speaker 2: in two thousand and then was subsequently fired later by
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  Speaker 2: Bob Stoops's offensive coordinator years down the road. So it's
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  Speaker 2: gonna be. That's gonna be. And then Iowa. We didn't
• 14:35
  Speaker 2: talk about Iowa new offensive coordinator. They make it back
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  Speaker 2: in the top twenty five preseason.
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  Speaker 3: So I'm looking at the transfer portal right now, and
• 14:43
  Speaker 3: I have to say that the Central Missouri Red Donkeys
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  Speaker 3: are making some moves. That they got a.
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  Speaker 2: Interior offensive lineman, the.
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  Speaker 3: Interior offensive lineman from Miami who was transferred there, Jonathan Dennis.
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  Speaker 3: And then down here they got a kid from Michigan,
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  Speaker 3: Christian Dixon, wide receiver.
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  Speaker 2: And who is this team?
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  Speaker 3: It is Central Missouri.
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  Speaker 2: State, Central Missouri State. Okay, the Red Donkeys or something. Oh,
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  Speaker 2: here's another one.
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  Speaker 3: They gotta they gotta fam you kid, another lineman, uh,
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  Speaker 3: Cardele Thomas.
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  Speaker 2: That's the mules. The mules, the mules, red.
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  Speaker 3: Donkeys, mules, whatever you want to call it. But they
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  Speaker 3: are making some heavy moves right now. In the transfer
• 15:37
  Speaker 3: port Jayden Dixon went to Central Michigan.
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  Speaker 2: It's gotta be. It's gotta be the Neil.
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  Speaker 3: I forgot Michigan. I forgot about that. I forgot Jayden
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  Speaker 3: Nixon left Oklahoma State.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, here's their running back.
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  Speaker 3: No, no, not Alli, But I'm I'm talking about behind all.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know who's behind I haven't looked at that.
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  Speaker 2: We have a previewed but we have twelve. But hey,
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  Speaker 2: let's quit pre the big ten.
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  Speaker 3: I was looking at the portal.
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  Speaker 2: Wow, Indians fall, Yeah, Wow, Wow.
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  Speaker 3: Wow, I'm sorry. You have three losses in a row.
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  Speaker 3: You really want to talk about it, You really want
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  Speaker 3: to get into the losses. Okay, because the White Socks
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  Speaker 3: have how many doesn't matter. I think it does matter.
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  Speaker 3: We are going for a record, so.
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  Speaker 2: All right, but I think everybody, obviously you look at
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  Speaker 2: the preseason coaches poll. You've got Ohio State number two.
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: You've got Oregon right there at number three or four,
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  Speaker 2: depending on who it is.
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  Speaker 3: And I think we both have Oregon better than you've
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  Speaker 3: got and I have one better. I got them one
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  Speaker 3: better game.
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  Speaker 2: I did pick Oregon to beat so let's let's talk
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  Speaker 2: about Ohio State. I did pick Oregon to beat them
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  Speaker 2: because it's at home, correct, I thought that was the
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  Speaker 2: one win. And then I think Oregon turns around and loses.
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  Speaker 2: Oregon turns around and loses too. No, I don't think so.
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  Speaker 3: Sorry about the giant blowing sound. Who is that?
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: Who's who lose to? Oh?
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  Speaker 3: We I've got him lose. You have him losing to Michigan.
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  Speaker 3: I've got him randomly. Oh, I haven't losing anything. You
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: haven't losing the Michigan.
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  Speaker 2: You have Moregon udefeated. Oh you're nuts.
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: No, I'm not, but think I probably can. They got
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: o you boy, Yeah, you've got a very experienced quarterback
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  Speaker 3: coming in and I'll say with probably a better offensive
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  Speaker 3: Loan than he had last year.
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  Speaker 2: Oh well, from comparable to man, I don't know about it.
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  Speaker 2: It looks like Gitan's doing really well. But what I'm
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: saying is from I think he's gonna.
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  Speaker 3: Have last year's offensive line. Oh he last year.
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  Speaker 2: I've told you what I thought about Gabriel. I think
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: everything is great about him. I think he's limited. I
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: think he's hit the ceiling. That concerns me about Oregon overall.
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: They potentially could go to your three losses. I just
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: I like I like them beating Ohio State because it's
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: at home. It's gonna be a huge game in the
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: quarterback for Ohio State, which is who is it?
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: Tyler van Dyke?
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: Who is it?
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: Now?
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: God, that's the one thing.
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: Oh no, he went to Wisconsin, son of a donkey,
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: Like you don't know these kids anymore. No, that was
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: the one thing that was Bulcher Hunter Accord on the cord. Yes,
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: I think I'm thinking of Baghetti. When was that kid
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: that that went to OU that ended up at Georgia.
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: The Now he's.
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, A Cord actually transferred. I'm sorry, all right,
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: we look like fucking I thought.
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: It was Verger ready.
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: Now it's hold on, let me just please please get off.
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: That looked at it and I get it, you know,
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: A twenty four. It's like, give me a freaking you
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: know what. I'm Howard God from Kansas State. Yeah, that's
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: why I like that move. But I mean there were
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: some issues there at Kansas State. I mean it's not
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: like it's he was perfect.
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: I mean he was better than Adrian Martinez and still
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: didn't get the start over him.
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: No, no, you're right about that. So Will Howard goes
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: over there. Will Howard goes as a transfer there. Kansas
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: State's quarterback that's coming in. I mean, they've got them
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: picked towards the top of the big twelve, and they
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: like that quarterback. It's it's just I don't see Will
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: Howard being that run and gun throw that you see
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: from the the c. J. Stroud ish type quarterback that
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: they Yeah.
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: He does, he runs, but yeah he's more of a
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: pocket passer. Don't touch me, gross. It's so yeah, we
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: did pick we picked Oregon in Ohio State at the top.
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: Now the interesting uh interesting pick that on the list. Well,
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: we got Illinois seven and we both have illinoit seven.
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: Are you talking about wins? Seven wins?
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: We've got Indiana, You've got them five. I've got them six. Okay, bottom, yeah,
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: I you know, we know they're gonna have a mid
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: season collapse, late season. So you've got him at nine.
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: I've got him at eight. New offensive coordinator, which, gentlemen,
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: new of fots.
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: I like them making a move there. They had to.
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: It's one of the best defenses in one of the words.
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: Maryland will probably be one of the surprise teams. Uh.
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: Seven wins for you? Eight wins for now. You gave
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: Michigan ten wins season, I gave him eight.
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: Okay, let's talk about Michigan real.
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: Quick, right, we got them, yes, and he's he's lost
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: a lot of players, he's brought a lot in.
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: Well, let's talk about that. The new developments that we've
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: had recently.
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: With the Yes, but does anybody care. Can the NCAA
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: actually do anything? Probably not, I mean because last used
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: to it was if you were a coach and you
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: got caught violate all left the program. You were wherever
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: you went. You you you were, you were still suspended,
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: you were, I mean you know. And with Harball, he
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: is he is. Well now he's not implicated at any
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: of this. So I think he got off Scott free.
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: And it's just the two guys.
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: Coach now yes, and the head coach now no, I
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: mean no, I mean Harball is involved. I mean partrigs.
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: Harball Robinson is acting like he has no idea.
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: They are they they are.
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: Committing level one violations. And I think that essentially is
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: what they're saying is they knew about the Stallions deal
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: being on the sideline, dressed up, giving codes, but it
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: is what is it.
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: That the NSA can even do anything about? It doesn't
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: even matter.
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: Oh shit, I don't know who knows. I don't have
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: their joke anyway, it's a joke. We've already talked about this,
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: and that's that's the issue. I guess they could take.
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: They could take the trophy away and the National championship,
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: but give it back in twenty years, yeah, like they
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: did Bush and the USC team, because now by then
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: text messaging illegally will be fine. Soever, they're gonna bring
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: it back right once.
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: Once we get into signal stealing is okay, it's a joke.
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: It's joke, right, I mean, what what do you have
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: rules for? I mean, it's a free for all anyway,
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: So why the fuck does the matter? I mean, it's
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: just stupid.
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: I think this is one of our biggest separate well
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: one of our biggest separations in Michigan State. Yeah, I'm
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: you took Michigan State with seven wins. I only get
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: him two. That's a whole new program coming in. They
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: lost a ton of players. I like, they lost a
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: lot they did, but I like, I like their coach,
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: I get it, but he's it's gonna take a couple
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: of years for him to get back on his to
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: get that back on after what it just went through.
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: I liked. I thought the schedule somewhat worked out well
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: for them. No, no, if you look, I mean, look
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: at the wins that that I picked. I mean, Johnson
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: Smith leaves Oregon State, he was thirty four and thirty five.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: I know that sounds crazy, but three Bowl wins at
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: Oregon State, which is a trash program, it's a hard
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: program to win, not a trash program, it's a hard
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: program to win at That's very difficult, and he probably
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: would have stayed if he could have. But I mean,
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: you you know, Michigan State overpays. They always do, so
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: I mean you look at some of the losses.
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: Time about I gat Mel Tuger that a huge contract.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: So talk about some of the losses you had in
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: the wins I had, and I can discuss well f
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: a U Okay, Florida Atlantic.
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's a Friday game. That's a Friday game.
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: That's the August thirty zero. Is that or Florida Lank Yeah,
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: I think it's so you gave him win. I gave
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: him a loss there.
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: So that's fifty fifty okay.
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: And so Maryland they both they're losing Maryland uh at.
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: Now you say it's Prairie View. I say it's Pennsylvania Virginia,
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: Maryland University a hill they win that game. Now, Boston College,
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: I gave him a loss there. Even as bad as
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: Boston College is, I think Boston College is still a
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: better program than the current Michigan State program. You gave
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: him a win.
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: Well, I think that halfway left. He became the coordinator
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: at the Broncos and he left late in the year,
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: So that probably hurts him the recruiting, and I thought
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: that now they have a good quarterback. Still, I like
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: Boston College's quarterback.
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: I think it's like that's what I'm saying, it's still
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: it's still at better program.
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure it's a better program. I just think
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: they're both got new coaches.
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: And I think that lost a lot. Michigan State lost
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: a ton.
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean they did have some transfers and a lot,
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: They lost a lot of kids. So he's having to
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: rebuild up, almost like Venables when Venables came in.
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, no, he's gonna have his work ahead
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: of him. I think he's the right guy. I don't
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: know who took over Boston College, and be honest, I
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: don't remember.
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: Uh let's see organ State this loss or Oregon loss. States. Now,
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: you gave him a win at Iowa and I gave
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: him a loss at Iowa. Well, and you put that
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: part of the Iowa mid seas I had.
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: Yes, I had to have Iowa just blow one wasn't
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: an at Michigan State. Yeah, yeah, that's why I picked that.
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: If you pick home teams for a lot, I do. Okay,
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: you know, you gave him a win in Indiana and
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: I gave him a loss in Indiana.
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: Okay, so I could see that. I mean either way.
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: Now, Rutgers, you also gave them a win and I
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: gave them a loss of Rutgers. And this Rutgers team
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: is supposed.
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: To be better. I'm not gonna say lights out, but the.
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: Last year, I think the year before, I.
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: Think they're going to be very close to both eligible.
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: Rutgers is potentially potentially. Uh seven wins.
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: You give Rutgers five wins.
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: I said, there's a potential, though, Look but I gave
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: them eight wins. Yes, that's what I said. That's my point,
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: the potential. I'm just saying I didn't.
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: I didn't.
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: I didn't pick them that way.
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: I think that was But yeah, Michigan State was was
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: our biggest.
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: Difference, big difference.
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: Now you know U c l A.
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: I had them, what seven wins?
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: Seven wins? Northwestern we both get them two wins. Uh,
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: you did get produced two more wins than I did.
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: You get three. I gave them one.
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: They're going to struggle this year.
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they're going to struggle mightily. Uh. Now we've got
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: the new kids. Coming in. Well, we've we've got or we've.
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: Got the Oregon team, the two teams from l A.
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: Right, yes, so us C, u C, l A and
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: Wazoo are coming in.
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: The problem is is that Oregon's gonna come in and
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: just do and and just keep playing football. U s
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: C is going to hit that wall because those big
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: ten defenses, though not SEC level defense.
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: You're going to see a lot more in Utah every
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: week than you did in the Pac twelve? Right, and
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: what did do to us? Dominated? Didn't dominated?
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: What have you done to that? Kenny? You opened up?
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: All right?
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: All right?
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: Just you should just click what did hit that?
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: Bottom?
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: There? We go?
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: All right?
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: So he just keeps touching. It's a touchscreen and it
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: just keeps fiddling it. Now we have our Middle of
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: the Roads, which of course includes Maryland, it includes Nebraska.
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: I think that's the biggest surprise right now is Illinois, Nebraska.
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: Illinois, Wisconsin member was Wisconsin Nebraska are in their second
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: year with there.
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: I love Luke Luke Fickle. I love that Higher and
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: coming into the Breast. I love that hire too. And
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: I think those two programs right there. Uh, and then
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: you have BRETTYL Illinois. It was also a good coach
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: he did and he did find last last year. Trying
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: to see those are the three teams I want to
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: watch see improvement. And then I also I just feel
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: that we're going to see a disapprovement or a more
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: losing for usc U, C l A. I think they're
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: going to struggle mightily. Washington and Washington. Washington will be
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: interesting too. Yes, Washington lost a lot. You said they didn't.
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: They did lose a lot. I mean there's a lot
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: of players there that they've lost. We actually you actually
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: picked up one of their guards. I mean they had
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: a massive, a mass exodus of people that they lost.
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Will Rogers went there as their quarterback and Teddy Priscills.
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: Behind and Will Tell did. But he also but he
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: also played in former you know Leech's system. So how
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: talented is he because you know, when they're coach last
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: year we kind of kept that same system for Will.
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: You know Will played for Leech? Is he started as
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: a freshman.
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: I believe he did what he was I thought he
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: went over to A and M didn't. He he was
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: at Old Miss. So you have an experienced quarterback coming in.
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: It is it's just going to be the system. Now
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: Fish plays a lot like that, but you know Fish
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: at at Arizona had the running quarterback for Tita for
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: Tita for.
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: Tata Fritters. Yeah, I can't remember what that kid's you
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: and the damn well that we did that on our own.
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: We that was that was everybody was was not there.
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: We let we had a lot of guys out.
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: Well. They always do that though.
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: It's not if it's not a playoff game. It's just no.
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: Games are just drama, right, That's.
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: All they are. Does anybody even care? So yeah, does
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: it matter? Does it? Does the ball games even matters?
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: A lot of the question.
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: Now he's gonna he's a sophomore. You talk about the
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: money coming out when he has a okay, you're this year,
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: he's transferring. Absolutely put it down as one of the
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: big timers. I think I'm surprised he didn't already. And
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: maybe Arizona they're gonna give him one more game. Maybe
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: the boys he coach is great, who knows, We're gonna
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: see what happens giving one more year. And right, so
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: we we agree that it's organ organ or well, I
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: mean it's not the same.
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: We do have our wild card of Penn State. Will
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: they do their collapse? Will they actually the offense? Will
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: Franklin get over that hump?
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: They can't find an offense. It's ridiculous.
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: But that's that's the biggest question in the Big ten
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: is what when whenever Penn State goes up against the
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: top they don't twenty five, they lose, And they don't bother.
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: Me as much because I think they're gonna be that
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: nine and three eight, nine and three.
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: We both have but ten, ten and two ten, yeah, okay,
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: But for them, yeah, the issue is is that they
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: go West Virginia, Bowling Green Kent State with a bye
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: week there, and then they go into Illinois, U C
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: L A U.
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: S C USC.
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: Is it interesting, Yes, but you're back into your schedule.
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: You end up with Wisconsin, Ohio State, Washington, Purdue, Minnesota, Maryland,
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: and you got so your gauntlet is literally get literally
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: we want to if we want to include it. You're
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: gauntlet's gonna be USC.
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: Bye week, but bye week with a bye week.
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: Bye with a bye week. That's huge for them to Washington.
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: That's gonna be your gun.
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: If you win, if you beat USC, you potentially could
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: be setting and I'm talking Penn State could be setting
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: at seven and oh right, so they don't.
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: Have they do not have a Wisconsin, they do not
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: have have a Nebraska, and they do not have they
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: don't have an Oregon.
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: You know their test, their test. I mean, you're looking,
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: but that's what I'm saying from from their schedule is favorable.
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know it's possible they lose in Illinois if
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: if Ballima can get it together, but I do think
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: they do.
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: Ohio State, they get them at home, so it's gonna
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: be happy Valley, promise you that'll be a night game.
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: Oh absolutely definitely. Fox always puts and they'll have USC.
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: That's right before their bye week. So they play U C.
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: L A at home, So then they travel out there.
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: Not better if you just had both of them away
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: or both of them homes. That way you keep them.
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: But and then I think a travel week and then
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: you've got a bye week.
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: So but I think their schedule after that, they play
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: Washington at home, they go to Purdue CLOrk.
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: That gauntlet the Wisconsin State.
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: Well, so I got him at ten wins. I thought
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: they had one of the more favorable schedules, to be honest,
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: but like I said, we believe that's why I got
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: them at ten wins. And I think their offense is
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: going to be very average as it has generally been
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: under what's his name, Mama dron Blank the coach.
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: Franklin, James Franco Lincoln. All right, is that it is
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: that what we're gonna end on.
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's uh, we're going to finish up.
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: But that was a quick, big ten fu Well.
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: I think that's about it. I mean, you know, we
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: talked about the surprise teams we want to see up
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: here on the board. Illinois Michigan State were very different
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: on UH we'd like to see we would like we
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: would like to see what Wisconsin UH and Nebraska does also.
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: But there's some very good middle because the team you.
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: Should see a big difference with those coaches.
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: Remember they got rid of divisions as well, so one
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: giant so they fourteen sixteen.
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: I think they're sixteen sixteen, so.
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: One big conference. So they're taking top two to the and.
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: You're looking at Oregon Ohio State again playing run so
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: and that's another thing the rematch well, and that's well,
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: it's another thing to talk about, is does the conference
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: championships that they start playing in effect of they start
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: getting rid of those so they don't lose lose teams
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: in that twelve. You know, like we've always talked about
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: how many conferences have been screwed by losing their conference
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: championship to get in the BCS or the final four.
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: Now we're talking about.
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: Well Nebraska did it. I think, oh you did it.
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: Well. Now we're talking about the final twelve. But now
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: you don't have that easy. You know, I think that
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: some conference people would like to have the divisions back
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: because you're rolling up a twelve and one Ohio State
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: against a six and five per Due they beat them,
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: or six and let's say seven and five p Due
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: they beat them in the conference championship, they're in. Well,
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: the only thing wrong is them losing and winning.
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: They're still in an issue that you look at this,
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: now you put the top two back in how many
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: how many games does in Cuba play twelve? You're looking
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: at a possibility that they could all just play in
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: house and not have any non conference.
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: If they because you're assuming that they're just going to
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: make make the playoffs longer, right.
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: And then they end up with the many playoff inside
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: of that.
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but you've got a lot of colleges right now
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: that have to have that money to survive. And that's
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: always been well, that's the lower but that's the critical thing.
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: That's that's one of the issues with the with the outside,
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: the outside, the power five, with the with the other
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: five or whatever they call it.
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: Yes, correct, and you know and if if, if, but
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: I c C.
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: Does end up collapsing like it looks like it might,
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: this might be there their golden year. They're they're end
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: who the ACC.
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: I don't.
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: You're looking at ten ten ten teams wanting to leave.
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: What they what they can actually do is be smart
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: and absorb the AAC to keep that, Yeah, to keep that,
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: pull those guys in, try to get you know.
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: As if you started that though I ask them you started,
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: but I know, I'm going back to the you look
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: at the conference championships. Now you're taking the top teams
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: and you potentially could be damaging their shots at getting in.
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: Well you damaged, but now you now you just damaged
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: their position.
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: Well hold on, but now but hold that's exactly the right.
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: And now you actually encourage or you benefit your conference
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: to get them in because playing a Purdue doesn't help
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: you at all. It gets you in, but it doesn't
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: get you up in the scale. Yeah, because we're going off,
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: well what you say, or you said Organ went undefeated
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: and that was your prediction prediction. Let's say Ohio State
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: plays Organ in the championship and they beat them, then
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: both are in anyway.
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: Both are now.
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: Twice to Oregon? Are they still?
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: But we're also going by by power power schedule, you know,
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: we're going by what this team did this season. We
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: still have the committee though, but they take they take
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: those those metrics into No I agree with that.
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: I'm just saying you.
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: Could have a scrappy team with a lot of heart
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: that's lost a majority of their games gap but how
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: many when we did. You don't get that. You don't
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: get that high well, we don't get that high win
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: metric because you beat them.
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: When we have the conferences. Though, you have to recall
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: that some of the championship games are pretty lame because
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: if one team's way over here and the Big Ten
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: is the perfect example like we're talking about tonight, was
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: there was a lot of uh. Hell, I think Northwestern
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: might have made the championship one year and got annihilated Perdue.
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: Remember those teams, Iowa was a lot of lost, you know,
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: because it was always.
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: Wisconsin's gutting over.
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: It was always Michigan, Ohio State, Kenn State, essentially, Penn State.
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: Not so much.
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: But but I mean we look at the coaches pull,
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: we look at the top fifteen, it is all SEC
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: Big ten Excel outside of Florida State and Clemson, Notre Dame,
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: well In, Clemson, Utah, Clemson, and.
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: I mean what we were talking about the points. I mean,
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: you know they do the points by the draft. I
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: mean the highest ranked team before the big drop office
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: Oklahoma at sixteen had six hundred nine points, the fifteenth
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: team Tennessee at six twenty one, seventeen team Kansas State
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: former Big twelve foe at four to sixteen. So that
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: means the points dropped off dramatically after ye and then
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: even oh and even OSU was almost sixty points lower
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: than that after Kansas State at eighteen, and then it
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: just continues from seventy.
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: The point the points of the coaches pull from seventeen
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: to twenty five is about three hundred points indifference, yeah, correct,
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: Whereas from sixteen to seventeen, is almost two hundred points.
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: And you've got what national champion runner up Washington. No,
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: they wouldn't run her up. They were they were. Did
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: Michigan beat them, Yeah, they were running up. They were
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: running up twenty six in the coach's ball right now.
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so they didn't even make it in And you've
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: got Florida State that went undefeated. They got shoved all
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: the way down to number ten under Penn State. I
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: don't understand they They should not be a number ten.
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: I would put them probably here at six. Well, Ole
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: Miss hasn't proven anything. No, and Notre Dame is always
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: interesting too. I know, I know they they love playing
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: nel Bider and.
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: Go back and look at their schedule. We need to
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: preview them.
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: We should have this one.
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: But anyway, all right, there it is. There's our picks
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: with a big ten kerfuffle. Next week we'll talk about
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: the Big twelve, the Big twelve and Tulsa. All right,
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: moving on, and Tulsa promised where we had on time.
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: We talked about forty all right, So we talked about
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: we're gonna move to the NFL real quick. We're gonna
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: do the NFC and a FC South South. Let's do
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: the South. Our predictions. We talked about the north the
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: South last week. I think we both agreed on Detroit
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: last week. If you want to go back, check out
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: our podcast Detroit, Green Bay. Oh, how about yeah, Chicago, Minnesota.
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: On the other side, it was Baltimore's Cincinnati.
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: I think you and I kind of flipped.
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: There was some there was some Pittsburgh in there. That
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: was a love affair. And I think you might have
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: had Cleveland hired than I did.
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: But I can't remember. No, no, no, no, I had
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: Cleveland lower. It was I had Pittsburgh one game over.
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: But you're you're your darling little boy. I was eight
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: and nine, right right, Your darling son had Pittsburgh eleven
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: wins because he did.
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: All right, let's let's do it. Let's do the NFC.
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: We'll start with the NFC.
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: The NFC, Yeah, all right, we're going right to Carolina.
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: You know what that's gonna be.
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: All Right, So you've got the Tampa Bay Bucks, who've
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: won it the last three years. You've got Atlanta who's
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: made big off season changes. Obviously the biggest. Yeah, the
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: improvements they went after the quarterback as as a whole team.
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: I don't know if that was the biggest improvements, and then.
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: They told I'm just saying them as a whole team.
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: Canalis becomes from Tampa Baby's offensive coordinator. He comes over
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: as the head coach for Carolina who won two games
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: last year.
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: Oh man, that's sad.
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: And then you've got carr And and Dennis.
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: Dennis Allen is in his hot sea. They're still going
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: to go five hundred. That's the issue.
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: I think he's done.
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: They're still going to go around five hundred.
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: Him and day Ball, who are both for the Giants,
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: who are both bad as I think they're one of
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: the best coordinators. You break him down in positions. Some
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: people just can't be good head coaches right now. I
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: don't blame Dave Ball so much yet. Dennis Allom has
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: had his shot twice. He was a Raiders coach too,
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: head coach. It failed, but miserably.
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: Both Wade Phillips great great coordinates, a good one terrible, terrible,
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: Nor Turner Bears Bears.
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: He was never head coach. Now, what said Dave one
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: stat was a decordinator for Dallas, went to the Bears
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: and Miami just didn't work out as great as it
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: should have.
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: Vic Fiago Fengino one year.
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well he had one shot. I kind of like
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: to give them at least a couple. No, he was
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: only a head coach once and that was for Denver,
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: and it was it went horribly, but they had a ship.
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know that going over there, he wasn't
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: gonna All right.
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: Let's talk about that said, let's just start with the bottom.
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: Carolina.
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: Okay, Carolina last year, two and fourteen.
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: This year, we have them doing no better.
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: Now. Jonathan Brooks was the the draft pick towards a
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: c L. He's coming in. The one thing I really
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: want something and I'm not going to talk about that
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: word the GT the generational talent, but I really like
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: the legate pickup from South Carolina, the wide receiver for Carolina.
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: Watch him. If Bryce Young can get.
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they'll sell. They'll throw them. They'll sell him in
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: a few.
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: Years, you know, if they can throw it. I like
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: the Brooks, he's coming back from the injury. I like
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: Jonathan Brooks. He's actually last year, yes he went out,
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: but thirty second pick, but I got him win and
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: how many sean.
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: We both have to. I don't think their offensive line,
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: of their defensive line.
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: That's the problem. There's a lot of questions. The trenches
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: are bad for them. Yeah.
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: Now the NFL secondary, I don't know what they brought
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: back in second.
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: Now the NFL, though, you know you could there's randomness
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: that you could win a game here too, But we
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: have two, so.
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think we really Uh, you're My win
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: was one at New Orleans.
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: And you did a split.
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: I did. Let's see a win with the Chargers and
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: a win at New Orleans. Your win was Denver and
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: Denver's trash New York Giants.
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: Well I got that.
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: But you know, Denver's got to win a game because
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: I think we have him losing a lot of games.
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: All right, So obviously we're gonna put Carolina last. Let's
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: talk about the third place prediction.
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: New Orleans yep eight eight seven. Well you have him eight.
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: I've got him seven and Atlanta eight and I have
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: them eight.
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: So New Orleans you have eight wins.
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: Seven wins. From Oka, you have both. You have both
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: Atlanta and New Orleans and eight wins.
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: Okay, So I have a I have a problem. I
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: love Crystal Lave. I think he's one of the best,
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: right he is. He's great. They did get Chase Young.
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: I like that pick up.
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: That was a good It was a very random yes,
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: but car I wanted to be so you know you
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: would love with him. We started this podcast.
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: Just keep this disappointed.
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: I told you that's what he was going over and over.
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: He might have pretty eyes, but he just cannot figure
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: out a defense.
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: All right, let's go second. Let's go second place. Dennis
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: sounds fired by the way.
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: All right, so you're gonna put Atlanta over over New Orleans.
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: Yes, like I said, they're both eight yes, yes, eight
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: and nine.
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: No, I have them. I have them.
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: I have eight nine yes yes. So and the reason
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: I do have Atlanta over New Orleans you do. I
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: have him tied and you have you.
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: You have them tied.
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: But so you're over actually because I think they won
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: the heads up.
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: Well, I mean the reason though, we're gonna get the
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: first place and it's not that far out.
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: The one So the one game that I picked a
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: little differently than probably Prognostic Cats was I took the
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: Vikings to beat Atlanta.
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you took it. You took a revenge game.
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: It was kind of a revenge game because it's at
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: at the Vikings and Kirk Cousin goes back home, and
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: I think the team plays and I think it wasn't
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: that a little later in the year for that game Minnesota?
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's week fourteen.
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so it's week fourteen.
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: It's at Minnesota. Although Atlanta is coming off two weeks
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: off of bye.
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so they also had a late buy.
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, they had a week twelve bye, Yes, which.
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: Is a little late. So you can get somewhere as
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: you get into that tent. All right, I have Tampa
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: going number one.
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: There's a team that when we get into it, we
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: have a love affair with them right now and we
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: just cannot get over it.
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: What's that?
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: I don't know. But they might be winning the AFC
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: NFC East.
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: Oh we're talking about Washington. Yeah, yes, Washington. Is we
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: get ready for that conference price because that's gonna be
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: tough because you know my feelings about split split split
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: split quarterbacks in that league, the division. You know where
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: we're putting the Yes, that's a fact.
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: No.
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: So I like Tampa, Okay, so what they've done in
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: the here's right first place.
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we're going right okay, but not much Well, we
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: both haven't picked at nine wins.
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: Yes, so it's not nine and eight kind of like
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: what they've been the last three years. So they re
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: signed uh say, making it into the playoffs. They re
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: signed Baker, they re signed Evans.
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: You know, you brought in Sterling.
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: She he's a practice guy. But I really like what
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: they'd done on the offensive line. They've tried to improve
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: that a little bit. Vida Vey got a new contract.
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: Obviously running back is gonna be key, and tighty end
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: new offensive coordinator. But that's what I was getting ready
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: to say, that's the key to all that. Dave can
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: Allis left went to be the offensive quarter Nothing against him.
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: I thought he did really well quarterback wisee Liam Cohen
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: was at the Rams, then he went to Kentucky, then
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: the Rams, and back to Kentucky. He's the one that
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: made the Bill Levis a first round pick or was
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: he set late set early second? I think he failed.
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: But anyway, so bringing him back from the Rams I
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: thought was a gat I thought that was a huge pickup.
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: So I like that Rashad Wright gonna be the running back.
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: I think they just and Tampa's got a tough schedule.
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: I think we had we talked about Tampa's gonna start out, folks,
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: They're gonna start out like three and five sounds stupid.
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: We have we have them, yes, so they have down there,
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: they have they have a week eleven, yes, week eleven.
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: Run, but burn down their schedules.
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: So they're gonna they are gonna run a heavy I
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: mean they have to play one, two, three, four, five
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: playoff team. Uh two? Uh, well three technically if you
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: want to count Philly three super Bowl.
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, appearing teams, that's correct.
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: So you start off with Washington. We gave him the
• 48:57
  Speaker 3: win at Washington because the beginning of.
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: The season, and we know that that's at the butt.
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: We know that that team's getting.
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: You go to the Lions, you get a break with
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: the Broncos, right, and you go there. It's the Eagles Falcons,
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: which they have to win.
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: They need, Yeah, they need to win. They need to
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: win both the Atlanta and the New Orleans games.
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: But then it split those but we have them splitting, yes,
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: and then it goes Ravens Falcons again, Chiefs, Chiefs and Niners.
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: Then they get a bye week. But then after that
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: you've got Giants, Panthers. Yeah, your cruise until you get
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: Dallas Dallas is interesting. That's a that's almost Christmas.
• 49:34
  Speaker 3: Depending Yeah, depending on what they're doing, Dallas could be
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: a win. Uh, you know, we gotta see be a
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: little early for Dallas. I think we talked about the
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: NFC East coming up. They ain't gonna be setting anybody.
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: And then they finished the Panthers again. And I'm not
• 49:48
  Speaker 3: even talking about setting. I mean this this Tampa team.
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: If Tampa, yeah, Tampa is clicking and going into into
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: that Dallas with with wins. There a heavy chance. Remember
• 50:01
  Speaker 3: Tampa takes got Dallas in the playoffs.
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: That's true.
• 50:05
  Speaker 3: So I don't understand why they you know, I know
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: they Yeah, they struggled with them in a regular season
• 50:12
  Speaker 3: and then they get into the playoffs and Tampa just
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: just beats them. So we could look, you could you
• 50:19
  Speaker 3: could possibly see Tampa at I would say eleven wins
• 50:25
  Speaker 3: as their ceiling. What's two more wins than what we got?
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: Ten is the best I think they do.
• 50:31
  Speaker 3: I got eleven as there as there their floor. Man,
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: they could screw up a.
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: Lot of seven.
• 50:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they get they could end up well, they can
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: end up finishing seven well.
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: I mean it depends on Atlanta. That's what I was
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: gonna say, because I mean they Raheem Morris comes in,
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: coach comes from Atlanta. I mean they still have Zach
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: Robinson's the o C. Kudos to Zach for quarterbacks. Quarterback,
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: you still have Algier, you still have Bijon. They improved
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: a lot.
• 51:00
  Speaker 3: I don't care about. But you have some really good
• 51:02
  Speaker 3: receivers you've got.
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: But can cousins stay healthy? And that's all they're banking on.
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: But then you've got Penix do you throw him in?
• 51:09
  Speaker 3: Well, he's the insurance and your son Daction has me
• 51:13
  Speaker 3: about this as like he goes, why the hell did
• 51:15
  Speaker 3: they take Poenix and other future insurance cousins is a
• 51:18
  Speaker 3: two year guy, you're paying him the third year it's
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: and fourth it's pretty much you can get rid of it, right,
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: Like I said Jake Kittler, it's definitely heavy. So yeah,
• 51:30
  Speaker 3: there's there's a possibility. I got Tampa's. Tampa's ceiling at
• 51:33
  Speaker 3: eleven and their their basement seven.
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: I could see that, not quite eleven, but I could Carolina's.
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: Carolina's uh, Carolina ceiling is probably five.
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I could see that.
• 51:45
  Speaker 3: I would give I could give it Lana nine.
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: I could and then same for them New Orleans, Yeah,
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: New Orleans.
• 51:52
  Speaker 3: The problem with that NFC South is they just they
• 51:56
  Speaker 3: either get beat up or they beat up on each other.
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: Well, and there's all, but you also think about those Cousins.
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: Is the best quarterback in that division?
• 52:04
  Speaker 3: I mean and statistically yes, but he love statistics.
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: But I do know, I do, I do, and he
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: is got He's got the best offense in that But
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: I just don't think the defense is there. I think
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: I think the new coach. I think the new coach
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: is very defensive coordinator or very defensive. He's a deft
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: ord oriented.
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: Orientated whatever.
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: But no that No, you're right, I mean I think
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: that's why I honestly think that Atlanta could have a
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: higher upside than the eleven. They depend on what Cousins
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: but an achilles injury? What do you come back from
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: you've seen?
• 52:45
  Speaker 3: Well, you know we've got that happening in in New Jersey.
• 52:49
  Speaker 3: We'll get to the Jets.
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: So it's gonna be yes, That's exactly what I say,
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: is like, what what you go too high? I didn't.
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: That's why I didn't go high on it.
• 52:57
  Speaker 3: What did Tyler come off of? Did he have an
• 52:59
  Speaker 3: achilles on knee.
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: Gosh, I think he was an a c O.
• 53:02
  Speaker 3: I forgot who else? Somebody came back Achilles quarterback and
• 53:07
  Speaker 3: did fine.
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: Herbert I've heard for the Chargers has some planner fast
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: Guidis might have been a boot for a little while. Yeah,
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: but it makes you wonder, is it is at the
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: beginning of something? You know?
• 53:18
  Speaker 3: Who else was a Charger that had planner fasciitis all
• 53:21
  Speaker 3: the time? It was a tight end, one of the
• 53:23
  Speaker 3: best tight ends in the league.
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: Not Ben Ben, Ben, Ben, Ben Ben, Not Ben. Go
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: ahead and tell me who it is.
• 53:33
  Speaker 3: You made me forget his name.
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: Dammit, I think it's Ben something.
• 53:37
  Speaker 3: Damn it. Rivers loved throwing to him. I know, God,
• 53:41
  Speaker 3: why do you keep saying Ben? I can't find my mouth.
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: You you were going with that?
• 53:46
  Speaker 3: I was, yeah, and then you what happened to Mike?
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: Here we go? I can't hear you.
• 53:54
  Speaker 3: Oh it's still there.
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: Oh it's Gates, Antonio Antonio Gates?
• 53:59
  Speaker 3: Got sorry?
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: The who is the Ben guy?
• 54:03
  Speaker 3: Was it?
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: The maybe he was in the Patriots that I'm thinking of?
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: Is no before him? Ben Coates? Is that who I'm
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: thinking of?
• 54:15
  Speaker 3: Tight end?
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: The American football player is right there and he is
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: a tight end. Yes, Benkos, that's who I was thinking
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: of for Georgias. All right, there we go, let's move on.
• 54:33
  Speaker 3: No, I don't think he did primarily for the He
• 54:36
  Speaker 3: was always the Baltimore Baltimore.
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: Oh for a minute, bump bump, bumb. Now everybody is
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: we move on to the FC South. Everybody says the
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: hardest division. I mean, what is everyone saying that the
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: hardest division or the most the division? Okay, and we
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: talked about them, and do you think that you know
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: the NFC East Okay? So now when you look at
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: this one.
• 55:06
  Speaker 3: Though, they became a very hard division last year.
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: AFC North, that's always.
• 55:11
  Speaker 3: What it was, went over, the AFC South became a
• 55:13
  Speaker 3: very hard division.
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: Not really, but I think it because of injuries.
• 55:17
  Speaker 3: It didn't until John until Colts quarterback Richardson, and then
• 55:23
  Speaker 3: Moss went out, yes, and then uh did Gardner Minshew
• 55:27
  Speaker 3: was still winning games?
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: Yes, who's the new quarterback of the Raiders? Which thing
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: when we talk about them. So I was thinking when
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: we talked about this, we were picking it because we
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: picked the AFC North last week, and you're thinking it
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: probably is statistically the best one still, I mean it
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: is the hardest one. I'm a little down on the Browns.
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: I'm a little down on the Steelers. I'm way high
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: on the Bengals. Some aerre different. It just depends. But
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: then you look at the AFC South, though, and you've
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: got Indianapolis an all star quarterback if he can stay healthy.
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: You've got Houston C J. Stroud potential m v P
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: this year.
• 56:05
  Speaker 3: You're going to see your superboy Jackson.
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: Jackson on Jacksonville. I just I, you know, signed a
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: huge contract, one of the highest paid quarterbacks now, didn't
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: stay healthy. He's got some health issues there. You signed.
• 56:19
  Speaker 3: That's that's why I'm worried about.
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: But Trevor. They did sign Gabe Davis.
• 56:23
  Speaker 3: What's his nuts? That just signed the big contract and
• 56:26
  Speaker 3: everybody's up on it, and I'm like, he's probably gonna
• 56:29
  Speaker 3: get injured.
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: Gabe Davis they signed from Buffalo, which was the second
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: best wide receiver there. They still have. And that's the
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: thing about they. I never thought they struggled in the
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: wide receiver to part Jacksonville. Let go that that's the one.
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: But I liked Watson. I liked uh not Zay Flowers.
• 56:47
  Speaker 3: But what was it?
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: Zay something? Jones, Zay Jones. They got Hunter from the Vikings,
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: Danielle Hunter, so and I know Danielle's not that no,
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: that sorry, that was Houston. Back at back up they
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: have that they drafted. Ben Thomas was the one that
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: I was thinking of. Uh, daniel Hunter is Houston. And
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: that's what I'm telling you. They've gotten so much better.
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: But we'll go back. Let's talk about Jacksonville. Actually want
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: to talk about the last place team, because I'm.
• 57:15
  Speaker 3: Sure Tennessee Titans. Who who he had his last place
• 57:19
  Speaker 3: and you give him two wins? I gave him three.
• 57:23
  Speaker 3: They don't have they don't have the easiest. But you've
• 57:28
  Speaker 3: got you've got to go to Buffalo, turn around, go
• 57:30
  Speaker 3: to Detroit. You've got Indiana or Indianapolis coming in early
• 57:34
  Speaker 3: bye week. You got a week five bye you you
• 57:37
  Speaker 3: come up, you start out Chicago, Jets, Green Bay, Miami.
• 57:43
  Speaker 3: So you've got one with a rookie, rookie coming in
• 57:49
  Speaker 3: to open the season.
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: New coach too. You've got Callahan for Tennessee.
• 57:55
  Speaker 3: Right, but you then you've got the Jets, and we
• 57:57
  Speaker 3: don't know is Aaron Rodgers? You know what he is?
• 58:00
  Speaker 3: One that I'm gonna do because you know he was
• 58:02
  Speaker 3: injured last year. Then you had you end up with
• 58:05
  Speaker 3: Green Bay and then go to Miami and if your
• 58:10
  Speaker 3: defense is not ready for either one of those teams,
• 58:12
  Speaker 3: just Jordan Love That's what I'm thinking of. He's gonna
• 58:14
  Speaker 3: get injured.
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 58:16
  Speaker 3: Uh, then you have it early bye week, which really
• 58:19
  Speaker 3: really I hate early buys. Uh, but it ends up
• 58:23
  Speaker 3: screwing them over. Yes, you go and you've got Indianapolis,
• 58:28
  Speaker 3: You go to Buffalo, you go to Detroit. You get
• 58:31
  Speaker 3: a reprieve with New England because we are day way
• 58:33
  Speaker 3: down on New England. Yes, I'm still down on the Chargers.
• 58:37
  Speaker 3: You're not. But then you've got the Chargers Minnesota. And
• 58:42
  Speaker 3: then you've got Houston, Washington, Jacksonville, Cincinnati, Indy, Jacksonville, Houston.
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: That's tough. Yeah, you and so we have them low
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: but but but also.
• 58:51
  Speaker 3: Brought in you You've got DeAndre Hopkins, you brought in
• 58:54
  Speaker 3: Calvin Ridley.
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: Yes, now you brought no I wanted to talk about
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: the additions for the defense. So you've brought running backs
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: or you brought in uh lu Jerious Snead, should Obi
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: wos Diggs, Jamal Adams, Kenneth Murray from ou Uh, Devandre Sweat,
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: Donard Wilson's a new DC and then they signed obviously,
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: I said Wandre Diggs as a safety. I think those
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: are all better. I also though, think or how much
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: are the great There's nobody great on that I know,
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: but it's it's new to No. No, Derrick Henry, we saw,
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: we saw Tony Pollard be the star running back. Didn't
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: work out real will and uh but yeah, no Derrick Henry.
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: And then and Ridley's really comes in and I like
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: the Ridley Hawkins, but it's really gonna be all about
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: Will they forget about But no, I mean and then
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: Malik Willis, who's third. But no, I mean, that's it.
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: That's it. It's just not gonna be a good I mean,
• 59:59
  Speaker 2: you're gonna to miss now bringing Brian Callahan in. You're
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: they're not the force the run Tyler Boyd as well,
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah they did, but they're not.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 3: Oh.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: I think they're fine at wide receiver, but they're gonna
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: have to have that Will Levis make them win to
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: throw that ball to them the proms he does, but
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: I mean we've seen the accuracy though too. And plus
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: he's he's still a youngster. When it comes to NFL.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: That's a second year. So yeah, and he started, Uh
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: but the sweat the sweat how many the sweat pick
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: was good? And I also you know they needed offensive
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: tackle and they took Latham early kind of like what
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: the Chargers did with the alt I mean the line.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: So but I still have them last unfortunately.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 3: All right, now we go to do we have all
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 3: three teams right here next to each other.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: Jacksonville number three.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 3: We have a weird well mine and yours are switched.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 3: So you have Indianapolis in second position, Jacksonville in third
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 3: and one game. It's by one game. And I've got
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 3: Jacksonville by one game over Indiana, and these two teams
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 3: could could swap again. You need uh, you need your quarterback.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 3: Is he going to be injury riddled?
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: Driver has to stay healthy? What in last year?
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 3: Obviously, Well, but Indianapolis needs their quarterback.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 2: Let me go back to because I said that to
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: you early. But you've got Gabe Davis from Buffalo. You've
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: got Brian Thomas junior l s U wide receiver they
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 2: picked after neighbors. He was obviously the first one. Old
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: lines is not good. I don't think the D line
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: is that good. I think that's you know, he still
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: got their serviceable.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 3: That's the problem is there, they're not. There's no superstars.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: There's now now the Mitchell pick up and the whole
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: what was the other no, go to go to Jacksonville,
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: Go to Jacksonville. I've got a Donna Mitchell picked up.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: Actually thought that was a really good pick up. What
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: was their draft pick for Jacksonville. I really thought they
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: had one that really stood out that I didn't write
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: it was. It was Brian Thomas, That's who it was.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 3: And they got a late Jordan Jefferson.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: Defensive tackle from l s U. That was a fourth
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: round So they took two defensive tackles and you know that.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: I mean, you look what they're trying to improve on
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: was the trenches.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, they're definitely.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: David Foster from Missouri was an no tackle. They took
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: an edge guy from Texas Tech. So that's they know,
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: that's what's gonna be their problem. Period. They've got talent
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 2: all around. That coach is super sharp when it comes
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: to offense.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 3: But they picked up Mike Jones.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: I just don't think that's right.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 3: In a weird tree, mac Jones was drafted over Trevor Lawrence.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: But I mean it's it's almost it's almost he was
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: after It's almost. The line though, the lines concerned me
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: a little bit for them. That's why I just but
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: I like the like the skill positions there.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because you're trying to get Etning Gellon and he's
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 3: one of the best running wide receivers. Watson's sorry, that's
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 3: what I meant.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: It's Christian Kirk. That's my fault. And I like him, yes,
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: And then that's the rookie did say Jones go down
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: a little bit? We did. Oh that's news to me.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: Let's check it out where we wezon? Right, we slept
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: on that heap up on that Well, no wonder they
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: got They drafted Robinson.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 3: And that's why they lost that wide receiver to their
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 3: main two blood receivers, and Kurt was the only one
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 3: that stayed.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: Yep, yep because Ridley's out too. Yeah m m mmmm,
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: interesting money money money, all right. And then second place, well.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 3: Like I said, you know, I've got it's one game.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 3: So with Indianapolis, uh there, their team is going to
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 3: depend on the health of the of their quarterback and
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 3: his improvements in his second year coming off injury. Are
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 3: we okay, yes, we'll talk about Okay, they they have
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 3: an easier schedule. I mean they've they've they've got a
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 3: they've got a Green Bay Chicago pit problem with Indianapolis
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 3: late bye. Now, granted, Jacksonville's is twelve, but they've got
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 3: that week fourteen by, so they're gonna be They're gonna
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 3: be going.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: Tampa Bay won the Super Bowl with Brady as a
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: week thirteen by. It's possible, okay, but but you but
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 2: you see them struggle when you get close to it. Ten, eleven,
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: twelve weeks. Your losses, you have a mix.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 3: You have a mix of hard games.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: Eleven and twelve thirteen. That's the whole point you look
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: at those.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 3: But that's okay. So Indianapolis is eleven, twelve thirteen is
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 3: the Jets, Detroit and New England.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: Well, New England looks like a Well what I'm saying
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 2: is that the Jets. They've got Jets being a bad loss.
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 3: But their schedule is mixed of really hard and easy.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 3: So you've got Houston, Green Bay, Chicago, Pittsburgh, Jacksonville, Tennessee, Miami, Houston, Minnesota, Buffalo,
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 3: the Jets, Detroit, New England and then you hit your bye.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 3: You see what I'm saying. You you've got that mix
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 3: of hard and easy going through there. And then you
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 3: finish out your season with Denver, Tennessee Giants Jacksonville. See,
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 3: you've got you've got what can be considered a cake ending.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 2: If you can get to that.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 3: But yeah, you gotta get this.
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 2: Well, that's what I'm saying. The Jets game is gonna
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: be really important there well, because I mean, you can
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 2: lose to Detroit and go, Okay, it's Detroit. They should
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 2: still be you have to you have you got to
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: beat New England. You can't fuck that one.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 3: And I've got them losing to the Jets.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 2: I'm just that you're right. I mean, that's a potential
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: right there.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 3: I mean I've actually got them losing. They're they're going
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 3: like a two win two loss, two win, two lost,
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 3: two win, two loss type thing. So Indianapolis and Jacksonville
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 3: have I think we kind of have a picked at
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 3: their ceiling. I would say I would say eleven is
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 3: probably each team's ceiling. You do have Indianapolis picked at.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: Twelve, but that's a ceiling pick. Though. I really like
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: Richardson and he's not done anything to really show us that.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 2: I just thought it was great the coach and that
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 2: was Stanicky's stitches.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 3: I can't remember the name.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: Let's talk about the potential super Bowl.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 3: But the surprise that we had last year picked at
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 3: two wins and came in and her, yeah, we two
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 3: three wins last year, we were we were not kind
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 3: to the new coach.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 4: He was a brand new coach. He'd never been a
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 4: head coach. Uh you had you had a rookie quarterback.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 4: That was the wins last year? I had it wrote
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 4: down what were they?
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: Twelve? Twelve and twelve and five? Is that what it was?
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 2: So I want to talk about as you look that
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: up Houston. I mean, this is a team that potentially,
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 2: and I'm not saying they will, this is a team
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: that potentially could unseat the Chiefs as the best team
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 2: in the NFL. And the reason I say this is
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: they got better.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 3: They did nothing but make improvements.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: So they got come on, spit it up, mixing, you
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 2: need to stay off. They got no got mixing, They
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: got mixing digs and they got Hunter, So Hunter from
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 2: the tight end from UH Minnesota. I said that earlier,
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 2: was I misspoke and said it was a different team,
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: but it was Daniel Hunter for Minnesota. Mixing is huge.
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 2: That's a huge pick up last year. Yeah, ten and seven,
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: So that was I thought mixing was a huge pickup
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 2: because that was kind of one of their areas that
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: I thought that they were the worst. I thought that
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 2: Stroud had to run a lot a little bit. I thought,
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 2: what would they have Moss last year in singletary trash?
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: Was it Moss who was a singletary and somebody else?
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 3: Wasn't it in Houston?
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought there was another run. Anyway, Mixing is
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: going to improve that at totally. Cincinnati just doesn't want
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: to pay him.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 3: I know what this said that he's had a tough
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 3: fun But Diggs.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 2: I mean you're talking about now. I don't think he's
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 2: a top ten wide receiver the NFL, but a lot
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: of people think he's the top five, and so we'll
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 2: see what he does then. And Boks was but I
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 2: thought I thought I thought Daniel Hunter was a huge
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 2: pickup at tight end because I think that they still
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 2: have Schultz. Correct, Is that right, Sean? If you go
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 2: back down and look, yeah, they still get yes, but
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 2: you still well, no, they have Tank.
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 3: No, does he shoot himself or what?
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 2: Now?
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 3: Ten year old? No?
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 2: I I want to Nico or Tank had an issue,
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 2: but it wasn't a big deal.
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  Speaker 3: It wasn't a big deal. He got shot by a
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 3: ten year old.
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: But he's fine. I mean, it's not a big fucking deal.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 2: He's going to be out. It's my whole point. That's
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 2: that you got Schultz and then you've got Tank, Nico.
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 2: Now you've got digs.
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  Speaker 3: Man and I remember when Schultz was at Dallas. Dallas,
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 3: you just dogged on that kid until he came out
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 3: and made C. J. Stroud look amazing, or Stroud made
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 3: him look amazing because he was a checkdown. He was
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 3: a go to for a minute.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 2: Offensive line is a bit young, but it wasn't an
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: issue last year. I think I think he's a great coach.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: How many thirteen fourteen wins?
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 3: Uh? You and I both have Oh wait a minute,
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 3: you have him fifteen. I got him at fourteen.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I think I think them in Detroit are going
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 2: to be the two teams that that look the best.
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 2: Not saying they're going to finish the best, but they're
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 2: coming in looking the best. That's my two teams and
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 2: I honestly think that Houston's gonna be a little above
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 2: maybe not above Kansas City, but right there, run game.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 3: And Jared's gotta get over that home.
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 2: And I think they will all right. So that's an
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 2: easy one. I mean, that was an easy It's gonna
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 2: be competitive, but I think it's easy to pick. So
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 2: because Tennessee, I just I like Tennessee has made improvements.
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: I just Will Levis we talked talked high about started
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 2: a bunch of them, and I think we talked highly
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 2: about Will Levis. My concern is is that he has
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 2: to be the very good.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 3: He has to. He has to, he has to be
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 3: spot on.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 2: Do you lose that Rabel toughness That was kind of
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 2: a thing that that defense always kept you in games
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 2: even the offense sucked. And then now nuts and he's
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 2: helping the Browns running.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 3: You were running.
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 2: He's helping the Browns now.
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 3: So they got they got Schwartz and Rabel.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 2: I don't know what his position or what he is.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 3: Well, what I'm saying is they're just gonna be great
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 3: in defense and terrible in offense.
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 2: But I mean, if you get chubbed back healthy, Deshaun
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 2: Foster or Deshaun Watson another year in from that's the
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 2: coach at UCLA. I had him on my mind too.
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 3: Okay, so he ended up playing mind games and the
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 3: stats aren't good. What do you mean he did twenty
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 3: five carries fifty seven you know he had a touchdown.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but eight eight and four long at sacked a
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: bunch quarterback rating, Well that.
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 3: That was because they had a terrible line. That line
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 3: was used to blocking for Derick Henry, who could just
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 3: run over people, to run around people, and a quarterback
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 3: that could run as well.
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 2: Now do I think that they should go back to
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 2: you know, Tannehill's get gone is Tannel Tanne.
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 3: So Will is it's Will, It's Will and Mason? Yeah, yeah,
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 3: I think Mason is. There's somebody else was in there.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 2: There was Mason's gonna be the third or the second
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 2: Wi still there. Yeah, And I think that that's that
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 2: was a bad That was a bad draft. Yes, yes,
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 2: and that was good coaching by Freeze. But you but
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 2: you look at the running back. You go from Derrek Hennery,
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 2: who's arguably one of the toughest best running.
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 3: Back Hawkins Tony Pollard.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 2: Now Spears is going to be the guy that they're
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 2: gonna think rely on after it's too lane and they
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 2: like him and he's not horribly bad, but it's just
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 2: that that that was turning and they don't have a
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 2: good line. That's that was my point.
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 3: Okay, So he was a rookie. He was with Loves
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 3: last year.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but they liked him.
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 3: But I know, but he's up behind. He had to
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 3: set behind, you know, Derrick Henry. So the guy that
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 3: sends me on, Derrick Henry gets four than fifty three
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 3: yards and he's behind Pollard. You know, he's your finesse back.
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 3: And I don't know what kind of offense are gonna
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 3: be running. I haven't looked into into what's his faces, schemes,
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 3: who he's got if he's calling offense and the other
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 3: guy's calling offense. I haven't looked at Tennessee's overall coaching stuff.
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 2: Callahan that he brought his dad over, which is he
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 2: is one of the best offensive line coaches in the NFL, right,
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 2: so that's what they need it. I don't remember who
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 2: their DC was.
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 3: We knew all this. We knew all this when it happened.
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 3: It's been years, months, decades.
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 2: I'll look at that. But no, I just I think
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 2: that the I think that Derrick Henry loss Is is huge.
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 2: Und Wilson, Yeah, there he is.
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 3: See a white guy or a black guy.
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 2: I don't know which one he is, but yes, there
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 2: he is right there. We had multiple pictures of Prescottain so.
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 3: Many different people. I didn't know who it was.
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 2: Where's he from? Let's see m which, like I said,
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 2: they got Calvin Ridley, Boyd Pollard whatever. Snead was brought
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 2: in from the Chiefs, which we talked about. That's a
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 2: good pick up.
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but does sneed do well outside the Chiefs?
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 2: Well, that's do they have? Do you have to pass
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 2: pass rush and to do that? So no, I agree
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 2: with that. So some of a donkey said they'd be
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 2: violent from the beginning, and they have to be. I mean,
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 2: that's gonna be. I just I don't Levis thing concerns me.
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 2: I just you're gonna take take in your top five
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 2: six rounds of your fantasy draft, Levis, you won't who
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 2: will Lewis? Yea ain't. I mean that's the problem. I know.
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 2: I'm just saying pick him up. I'm just I'm just saying, yeah,
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 2: he's a free agent.
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 3: He was Philly. Denard was the Philly uh in Baltimore.
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 3: Oh okay, okay before he he came over, because I
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 3: think he ended up getting fired in Philly this year,
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 3: this last season, which is why he was picked up
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 3: by Callahan.
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 2: Well, for the most part, I think that you know,
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 2: in Callahan, wasn't the play color Cincinnati. That kind of
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 2: bothered me about everything. Now, Zach Taylor still is Zak
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 2: Taylor is a quarterback coach and the play color at Cincinnati.
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 2: So you hired Callahan and it's almost like you fired
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 2: Vrabel to downgrade. Are you wanting something you know, the
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 2: new draft class as it looked, you know, hypathetically, allegedly, theoretically, whatever,
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 2: All right, you got anything else I do not? All right,
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 2: we'll see you next What is it? Okay, we'll see Friday.
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 2: We'll see we're gonna get back on schedule. We gotta
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 2: get back on Friday. We're going to do n f
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 2: C and a f C to the east.
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 3: Are you sure you want to do the East?
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 2: Let's do that last. Let's do the West. We'll do
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 2: the West, and we'll do the big twelve in the West.
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 2: Next week. We'll we'll give you all and all the
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 2: things that we think and all, and we wrote all
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 2: this stuff down so we can we could give each
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 2: other ship with it. And we forgot to talk about Jones.
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, as we close, Daniel Jones insides a scuffle at
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 3: Giants lines practice. Now Daniel Jones perpetually looks scared.
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 2: What me, don't fight me?
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 3: And I don't do does it? Does it say what
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 3: caused this?
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 2: And said that he insided it come over and stuck
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 2: up for a teammate, which is great. I don't think
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 2: he's not a bad team at all. I still I
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 2: told you, guys.
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 3: Life eight skirmishes that occurred.
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 2: I told you last year that I thought that that
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 2: was a good contract that the Giants signed. This is
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 2: his last year in New York and they're going to
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 2: get off Scott free out of it. Oh if he
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 2: doesn't do well.
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 3: Well, they getting done a day ball too. So we
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 3: need to start looking at it.
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 2: But I think there was there was also something that
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 2: amor on Saint Brown, I'm gonna do a skirmish, so
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 2: it said it.
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 3: Said the defense, the just defense got into it with
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 3: I'm on Saint I'm on Rossaint Brown. On the second
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 3: play of the Live Drull.
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 2: But but somebody didn't mention on Twitter that melee involves
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 2: several bunch of ye but that Twitter said that a
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 2: lot of the giants, I'm sorry, a lot of the
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 2: Lions didn't come over and try to help armor on
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 2: Saint Brown because of all the contract drama and shit.
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 1: So hell, I don't know whatever, Yeah.
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 3: You know that's it was like contract, I have contract
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 3: drama with you.
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 2: I mean if you have if you if you make
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 2: fifteen million and I'm making one million, there's going to
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 2: be drama.
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 3: It is what it is. But you'll, yeah, you'll be
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 3: upset that I'm making fifteen that's the point.
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 2: So that's when they were not you, That's what they
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 2: were talking about.
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 3: No, this is you. I wouldn't I wouldn't mind if
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 3: I was making a million making fifteen I'm gonna get
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 3: a cut out of it all.
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 2: Thank y'all appreciate it. Thanks for joining us. We'll see
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 2: you Friday.
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah,