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8-03-26 Hour 3 - Training Camp takeaways (so far)/Payton on Dobbins' promise/Hunter Goodman traded? · Moser, Lombardi and Kane

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  Speaker 2: I know you wanted to hold bow back a little.
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  Speaker 3: Bitty though he was kind of saying in June he
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  Speaker 3: was ready.
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  Speaker 4: How much was he kind of champion at the bit
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  Speaker 4: to finally get out of here, let's do it?
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  Speaker 2: I think, well all the time, and I think Bo
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  Speaker 2: Lowry and his staff have done a good job with
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  Speaker 2: the schedule. We're right where we wanted to be, uh
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  Speaker 2: where we hope to be at this time. And that's
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  Speaker 2: a credit to Bow, the training staff and you know,
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  Speaker 2: all the people that have put in the work, you know,
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  Speaker 2: to get here.
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  Speaker 4: Sean Payton on his starting quarterback bow Nicks, ahead of
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  Speaker 4: another week of Broncos practice. Six straight days. This will be,
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  Speaker 4: in fact, the most consecutive days that the Broncos will
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  Speaker 4: practice all season long. They will be out here Monday
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  Speaker 4: through Saturday. They'll have Sunday off, as is the case
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  Speaker 4: throughout the rest of training camp, but six straight days.
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  Speaker 4: We expect pads today, pads off on Tuesday, and then
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  Speaker 4: what Sean Payton said at the podium on Saturday. A
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  Speaker 4: little bit later on in that press conference was if
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  Speaker 4: there's a day to be out here as a Broncos fan,
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  Speaker 4: it will be Wednesday and extended practice in pads. Bow
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  Speaker 4: looks fine, looks like he's rolling, looks like he's running.
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  Speaker 4: He said, he's not feeling as though he has to
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  Speaker 4: stay in the pocket and not be as mobile. Warren
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  Speaker 4: Sharp had this number, guys, this is the Sean Payton
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  Speaker 4: quarterback formula. Percentage of dropbacks resulting in sacks, fumbles, or interceptions.
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  Speaker 4: It's the reason why he loved Bo coming out of Oregon.
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  Speaker 4: Where's your guesses where Bo would rank in percentage of
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  Speaker 4: dropbacks resulting in sacks, fumbles, or picks.
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  Speaker 3: So when you say drop backs, do you have to
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  Speaker 3: be under center? Or can you take the ball in
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  Speaker 3: shotgun and drop.
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  Speaker 4: Back shotgun or under center and then drop back ball
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  Speaker 4: in your hands. You're not handing it off.
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  Speaker 3: And so and so where does he rank in each
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  Speaker 3: of those categories?
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  Speaker 4: Nopes combined percentage of dropbacks resulting in sacks, fumbles, or
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  Speaker 4: interception not.
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  Speaker 5: Very many, because because he he doesn't get sacked a lot,
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  Speaker 5: he doesn't throw a ton.
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  Speaker 6: Of picks, sacks, sacks, picks or what or drop pass fumbles.
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  Speaker 6: I say, I'd say he's the best in the league.
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  Speaker 6: He's yeah, he's probably pretty damn yeah. Yeah, there you go.
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  Speaker 3: Now that I now that I put all three of
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  Speaker 3: those together, said, okay, you're right. He doesn't get sacked much.
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  Speaker 3: He doesn't throw them any picks, and the completions a
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  Speaker 3: lot of them are quick, quick hits. Yeah, number one.
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  Speaker 4: Five point five percent, number one in the league. Matt
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  Speaker 4: Stafford number two at six point one. Caleb Williams number
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  Speaker 4: three at six point three.
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  Speaker 3: C J.
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  Speaker 4: Stroud is number five at seven point zero percent. Michael
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  Speaker 4: Pennix Junior is in between Williams and Stroud, but doesn't
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  Speaker 4: play a whole bit.
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  Speaker 3: A lot of that is a product of your offense, too, right, Yes,
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  Speaker 3: it really is. We saw Bow earlier today, about an
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  Speaker 3: hour ago. He was out here barefoot, walk in the field,
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  Speaker 3: took a couple of laps around the field, just sort
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  Speaker 3: of getting to know the playing field a little bit.
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  Speaker 3: He had not done that in years past. He just
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  Speaker 3: started doing that here and more and more players are
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  Speaker 3: doing it. And my two granola's here, they tell me
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  Speaker 3: that that's centering yourself. Is that what it's called?
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, being at one with the earth?
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  Speaker 3: My two whatever, my two hippies and my two cost
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  Speaker 3: hippies here say that that's very common to walk around bear.
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  Speaker 4: Don't throw me in with that line.
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  Speaker 5: I dude, I golf barefoot and you make fun of
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  Speaker 5: me all the time. But I liked I liked it
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  Speaker 5: because it's unacceptable. Okay, Well, I like the feeling of
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  Speaker 5: the turf under my feet. Great, it helps me. Hey man,
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  Speaker 5: Sam Steed used to do it. So if it's good
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  Speaker 5: enough for Sam Sneaed, it should be good enough for you.
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  Speaker 3: Hack, the receiver for the Patriots, goes around Bear freaking
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  Speaker 3: Duffer everywhere he goes right. So well, now that's that's
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  Speaker 3: that's that's a bit much.
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  Speaker 4: Who is that guy?
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  Speaker 3: He was a rookie two two years ago. No, he
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  Speaker 3: had he's played for Buffalo, was with them, Collins, Collins.
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  Speaker 3: He had a big catch last year against the Broncos
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  Speaker 3: if you remember, and he was talking that smack.
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  Speaker 4: Worst quarterbacks in that percent of drop backs that end
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  Speaker 4: in sacks, fumbles and interests. Well, it's gotta be old
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  Speaker 4: guys who can't run around that one. No, you would
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  Speaker 4: think that the worst in the league last year. JJ McCarthy, Oh, okay,
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  Speaker 4: Shadors on that list, Chadure is thirty four. I take
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  Speaker 4: that back because Stafford can get rid of the football.
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  Speaker 4: I mean he'll get rid of the Footbay smart and talk
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  Speaker 4: about a guy who can move. Maybe the best dual
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  Speaker 4: threat quarterback in the history of Mary Lamar Jackson thirty
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  Speaker 4: third out of thirty six interest quarterbacks. Interesting, Tua take
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  Speaker 4: that beat Justin Fields and Justin Herbert round out numbers
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  Speaker 4: thirty three through thirty.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Uh, I'm gonna be well. Part of that. Part of
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  Speaker 3: that hurts for for Herbert.
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  Speaker 7: Listen to me, it's gonna sell.
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  Speaker 5: Like when you lose both of your starting tackles, you're
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  Speaker 5: probably gonna get hit a little bit more than you normally.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, yes, probably part of the deal. Correct. A lot
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  Speaker 3: of it is the offense you play in correct.
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  Speaker 5: Hey, I was reading Legi's latest article and his training
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  Speaker 5: camp updates are great every day. This is from Saturday.
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  Speaker 5: And you want me to be Do you want me
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  Speaker 5: to be Karnak the Magnificent here? You want me to
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  Speaker 5: predict the future?
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  Speaker 3: Please?
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  Speaker 5: No matter what happens with the off the field problems.
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  Speaker 5: Jonathan Cooper is not going to be a Denver Bronco.
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  Speaker 5: I did an asked season, can I explain why I'm
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  Speaker 5: reading this is?
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  Speaker 3: This is?
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  Speaker 5: I can see where this is going. After the Broncos
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  Speaker 5: tinkerd with the idea of this offseason to move Jonah
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  Speaker 5: Ellis from outside linebacker to inside linebacker, the first three
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  Speaker 5: days of camp have reaffirmed the decision to leave Ellis
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  Speaker 5: right where he is as part of the team's pass rush.
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  Speaker 5: And I think they really like Yellois on the outside,
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  Speaker 5: do they not?
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  Speaker 4: Well?
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  Speaker 3: Of course?
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  Speaker 7: Okay, here's a Sean Payton quote.
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  Speaker 3: For me.
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  Speaker 5: It felt like, man, we're taking a position that's harder
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  Speaker 5: to find and moving him to a position we think
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  Speaker 5: might be a.
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  Speaker 3: Little bit easier to replace.
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  Speaker 5: I just think we feel like, man, he's really as
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  Speaker 5: sending as an edge player Jonathan Cooper. Let me ex
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  Speaker 5: po to you where we are with the money. Jonathan
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  Speaker 5: Cooper's cap hit this year is five point seven eight million. Okay,
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  Speaker 5: dead cap would be eighteen million. His cap hit next
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  Speaker 5: the next two years and twenty seven and twenty eight
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  Speaker 5: bounces up to seventeen five five five million dollars. Jonah Ellis,
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  Speaker 5: on the other hand, his cap hit is about a
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  Speaker 5: million six.
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  Speaker 7: Do you see where I'm going with this?
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  Speaker 5: Do you know if Jonah Ellis can move to the
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  Speaker 5: opposite side of Benito and get to the quarterback with
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  Speaker 5: any kind of regularity, that makes Jonathan Cooper what happens?
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  Speaker 7: Oh yeah, but I'm just' you're right, we.
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  Speaker 3: Have to see it. But Lake Wallace praised the guy.
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  Speaker 5: Teammates have praised the guy, and Sean Payton comes out
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  Speaker 5: and says, you know what, we were smart not to
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  Speaker 5: move him to the inside because this guy again that
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  Speaker 5: that quote. Let me give you that quote yet one
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  Speaker 5: more time. He says, I just think we felt like, man,
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  Speaker 5: he's really ascending as an edge player. That's That's some
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  Speaker 5: riding on the wall stuff coming up right there.
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  Speaker 3: Speaking of caps and money, what do you guys thoughts
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  Speaker 3: over the weekend on Sam Allinger getting number two duties
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  Speaker 3: ahead of Jared Stidham.
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  Speaker 4: I've said it for weeks on the morning sprints, I
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  Speaker 4: would I'd take Ellenger over Stidham, just sitised based off
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  Speaker 4: of what we saw in the AFC Championship game.
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  Speaker 3: You think it was that bad, it was pretty bad.
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  Speaker 3: You don't think it was a product of the weather.
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  Speaker 5: Uh no, because even before the weather came in, he
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  Speaker 5: wasn't playing great football.
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  Speaker 3: Bro. Yeah, then what he had that nice pass to
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  Speaker 3: mims Down.
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  Speaker 4: All that was like three minutes in the game, the
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  Speaker 4: past to mims Down, the scene from that point on.
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  Speaker 4: Do you know how many pass yards he had until
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  Speaker 4: the end of the game eighty six eighty six? And
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  Speaker 4: I know the weather was a huge issue in the
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  Speaker 4: second half, but he made an unforgivable mistake. I think
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  Speaker 4: they believe that Ellenger can do more of the bow
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  Speaker 4: Knicks style of quarterbacking than Stidham can at this point
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  Speaker 4: in his career.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's more. I think it's more money related
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  Speaker 3: than anything. Eight million versus two million, and if you're
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  Speaker 3: eventually gonna pay bo. I don't know if they want
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  Speaker 3: to disrupt the quarterback room, but it's very interesting to
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  Speaker 3: see Ellener taking back up duties.
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  Speaker 4: Also, like, did you learn last year in the AFC
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  Speaker 4: title game that if your starting quarterback is hurt, it
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  Speaker 4: kind of doesn't matter. But like you're not going to get.
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  Speaker 5: So if you're gonna be able to save if you're
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  Speaker 5: gonna be able to save four million, however much it
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  Speaker 5: is when you say five million.
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  Speaker 7: Is that what you said?
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  Speaker 5: If you're gonna be able to save five million and
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  Speaker 5: it doesn't really matter with the backup quarterback, I tend
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  Speaker 5: to agree, then.
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  Speaker 3: Why develop a backup quarterback? Agreed? If if that's what
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  Speaker 3: it comes to, and you guys, you know, throw your
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  Speaker 3: hands in the air and say it doesn't matter, well,
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  Speaker 3: what's the point.
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  Speaker 5: Well, let me explain how good was Mac Jones for
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  Speaker 5: the San Francisco forty nine ers.
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  Speaker 3: He won them games, He won them games, but not
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  Speaker 3: even that ci.
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  Speaker 7: No, But what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 5: What I'm saying is if you have a veteran backup
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  Speaker 5: who's who you're confident come in to win games're not
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  Speaker 5: gonna win.
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  Speaker 7: You're not going to playoff games in.
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  Speaker 3: The super Bowl.
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  Speaker 7: But likely, I mean that's very very unlikely.
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  Speaker 3: Guys are being a little unfair here because he he
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  Speaker 3: was thrust into his first start in two years and
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  Speaker 3: it happened to be the AFC title game in a snowstorm.
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  Speaker 7: No, I agree, So.
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  Speaker 3: Take any backup quarterback in the league, put him in
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  Speaker 3: those conditions, in that circumstance, and I think you'd see
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  Speaker 3: the same results. I agree, Like, what what would you do?
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  Speaker 4: It's not the same circumstance. But like, look what Marcus
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  Speaker 4: Mariota did to you last year, one of the best
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  Speaker 4: defenses in the world. Mariota did whatever he wanted that game.
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  Speaker 3: He had ample starting experience in the national football That's true,
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  Speaker 3: he didn't mean dude. Stidham hadn't played in two years,
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  Speaker 3: two years, and all of a sudden you thrust into
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  Speaker 3: the AFC title game.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not an enviable position. Don't get me wrong.
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  Speaker 4: I think that most backup quarterbacks in that position would fail.
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  Speaker 4: But you know, the back pedaling chess pass for me,
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  Speaker 4: is unforgivable.
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  Speaker 5: Here's my position on the matter. I really don't care.
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  Speaker 5: I really, I truly don't care. Whoever, whoever is the
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  Speaker 5: backup quarterback is the backup quarterback. I mean to me,
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  Speaker 5: if it gets down to that, you're gonna have a
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  Speaker 5: difficult time anyway. No offense to to Ellinger or no
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  Speaker 5: offense to to still him. But that's just the way
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  Speaker 5: it is.
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  Speaker 3: You gotta have one.
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  Speaker 5: You gotta have one in a pitch, ain't no doubt
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  Speaker 5: about it. But all I care about is if if
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  Speaker 5: it comes down to that and Ten is hurt again
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  Speaker 5: and he can't play for whatever reason, then you've got problem.
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  Speaker 3: By the way, we jinxd a member of this Broncos
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  Speaker 3: roster Friday during this show. We jinxed him. We came
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  Speaker 3: up with the best name on the roster. Yeah he
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  Speaker 3: got hurt no over the weekend. Yes, that is Joseph
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  Speaker 3: man Jack. No, Joseph man Jack the fourth a reserve receiver.
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  Speaker 4: Well he is. He is a Roman numeral after his
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  Speaker 4: stop it, Yeah he does.
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  Speaker 3: That can't be right. It's not just Joseph Manjack. It's
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  Speaker 3: Joseph Manjack the four.
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  Speaker 4: There's the Roman numeral isn't on the roster like the
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  Speaker 4: paper sheet, but they give us ESPN.
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  Speaker 3: It is. Look at look at Joseph Manjacks. So he's
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  Speaker 3: got he's got a stitch man Jack. What a name
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  Speaker 3: the fourth? Don't forget the fourth. If he's got it there,
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  Speaker 3: you've got to use it.
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  Speaker 4: That's phenomenal.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, how let me ask you, man, how much
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  Speaker 3: swag do you have to possess to say I want
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  Speaker 3: the fourth attached to that name?
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  Speaker 4: Joe Man Jack four the fourth. I'd rather hold up
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  Speaker 4: the five all five fingers there, you know, a man Jack.
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  Speaker 3: The way I'm looking at it, there's four Victor Lombardi's
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  Speaker 3: in my family. I don't know why I don't throw
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  Speaker 3: a third or fourth up there. You should because Easy's
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  Speaker 3: name was not Vittorio. I know Easy's name was Easy,
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  Speaker 3: but my.
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  Speaker 5: Grandfather was Vitia. But that doesn't matter, so that skips
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  Speaker 5: a generation. I think you have to go the sec.
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  Speaker 5: I have no idea what what I do.
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  Speaker 3: Home boy shows up to camp with the fourth.
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  Speaker 7: On his name. Yeah, I do know this though. That's
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  Speaker 7: a lot of man Jack's.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: The other guys, I mean, they come from a long
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  Speaker 5: If you're the fourth, you're coming from a long line
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  Speaker 5: of man Jackson Jacks go back in history.
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  Speaker 3: Another player who's been hurt so far and hasn't played,
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  Speaker 3: and does he does Drew Sanders exist?
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  Speaker 4: He doesn't exist. He's Casper the ghost.
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  Speaker 3: I haven't seen him.
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  Speaker 4: The first time I see Drew Sanders out here at
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  Speaker 4: training camp this year will be the first time that
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  Speaker 4: I have ever seen Drew Sanders list it.
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  Speaker 3: As the backup right inside linebacker to Justin's.
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  Speaker 4: I think that's the sneakiest sketchy position this year. Linebacker,
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  Speaker 4: of course, Yeah, like inside linebacker could be a disaster.
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  Speaker 4: I think if we go back to Friday's camp. Who
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  Speaker 4: hadn't Who had an outstanding day at camp on Friday
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  Speaker 4: is Evan Ingram and it was the shallow crossers that
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  Speaker 4: he was catching seven yards from the line of scrimmage
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  Speaker 4: and then train the corner. I know they're not defending heavily,
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  Speaker 4: but if you can glean anything from that situation, it
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  Speaker 4: is can the inside linebackers cover pass catch tight ends?
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  Speaker 3: And Red Murdoch, my friend side Teddy cover We know
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  Speaker 3: we can tackle cover. We'll find out.
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  Speaker 4: The inside linebacker is a massive question for the Broncos.
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  Speaker 4: Three oh three, five oh.
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  Speaker 7: Four, Oh it is.
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  Speaker 3: It is.
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  Speaker 5: The Sanders thing is is a problem, no doubt about it.
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  Speaker 5: He's a big old dude though they really like him.
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  Speaker 5: To me, when I look at his body, reminds me
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  Speaker 5: of like a Romanowski kind of guy.
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  Speaker 7: To be honest with.
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  Speaker 5: You, that too. What about uh? What about Caleb Loner?
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  Speaker 5: What's his problem?
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  Speaker 4: He hasn't been out of practice. He had knee surgery
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  Speaker 4: yet the off.
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  Speaker 3: S I know he did.
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  Speaker 5: But as Legi always says, listen, the players like his
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  Speaker 5: teammates like him. They think he's an asset. He's six
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  Speaker 5: to seven with a thirty nine inch vertical leap. But
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  Speaker 5: the last thing, you can't make the club in the top.
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  Speaker 5: You just can't do what you've got.
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  Speaker 3: You've got.
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  Speaker 5: You've got six seven other tight ends running around out
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  Speaker 5: here doing stuff, and you can't get on the field.
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  Speaker 7: I'm not saying it's his fault. I'm saying that's a
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  Speaker 7: problem for him.
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  Speaker 4: Practice squad Home Dog three oh three five, You been there?
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  Speaker 3: I've seen guys the fourth before, maybe in the movies
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  Speaker 3: like Game of Thrones. I've seen guys here in the
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  Speaker 3: open field, the second, the third, But I don't think
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  Speaker 3: there's ever been a Denver Bronco who's carried the fourth?
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  Speaker 4: Has there David Sills?
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  Speaker 3: Did he carry the fourth?
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  Speaker 4: I think David Sills is a fourth.
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  Speaker 3: Can anybody else remember a Bronco who's exceeded the fourth?
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  Speaker 3: Have we ever had a fifth? Has anybody pleaded the
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  Speaker 3: fifth on the wall?
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  Speaker 5: I mean you had Louis the sixteenth man. That guy
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  Speaker 5: but on that guy got that guy got his head.
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  Speaker 3: I understand Broncos roster. Has anybody ever exceeded and gone
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  Speaker 3: to the I mean Henry the eighth dude, he was
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  Speaker 3: the eighth bro. It's out to do ninety two to
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  Speaker 3: five back in four minutes.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm gonna get my team everything I got for
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  Speaker 2: all seventeen games, and I will be there for all
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  Speaker 2: seventeen game.
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  Speaker 3: We can, we can.
• 14:30
  Speaker 7: I'll pinky promise all of you right now about that.
• 14:35
  Speaker 3: Promised to us. When the swear with all of us
• 14:37
  Speaker 3: who play off the seventeen.
• 14:38
  Speaker 2: Game react, how did you arrive at that promise? All right,
• 14:42
  Speaker 2: you guys are something. Yeah, listen, he's infectious. It's part
• 14:51
  Speaker 2: of the position, you know, when you when you're at
• 14:54
  Speaker 2: running back. I was always taught to stack that position,
• 14:58
  Speaker 2: make sure you have depth.
• 15:00
  Speaker 7: I'm glad he's with us.
• 15:04
  Speaker 3: That was revealing. I never heard that.
• 15:07
  Speaker 4: Sean Payton on the health of his newly re signed
• 15:12
  Speaker 4: running back JK Dobbins two year deal in the offseason
• 15:15
  Speaker 4: and JK did you know make the peaky promise to
• 15:19
  Speaker 4: the members of the media on Friday and coach was
• 15:22
  Speaker 4: trying to say, like, how did you guys got him
• 15:23
  Speaker 4: into that pinky promise? And honestly, like JK. Dobbins just
• 15:26
  Speaker 4: came out and said it, I'm just gonna be healthy.
• 15:28
  Speaker 3: I found that somewhat illuminating. The kid goes out and says,
• 15:32
  Speaker 3: I'm not gonna get hurt. I promise you, and the
• 15:33
  Speaker 3: coach says, oh, there's a reason we stacked a running
• 15:36
  Speaker 3: back position. Well he's wrong.
• 15:39
  Speaker 5: No, he's not wrong, But I think I think he
• 15:40
  Speaker 5: probably feels it a little bit, and he can try
• 15:44
  Speaker 5: to explain it away as much as he wants to.
• 15:47
  Speaker 5: And part of me is honestly there with him saying, yeah,
• 15:50
  Speaker 5: you know what, hey man, this is fluke. That's kind
• 15:53
  Speaker 5: of weird. I mean this this hip drop with what
• 15:56
  Speaker 5: gives you a Liz Frank right, and you missed the
• 15:58
  Speaker 5: rest of the season.
• 15:59
  Speaker 7: I dig all of that.
• 16:00
  Speaker 5: But the fact of the matter is he's never played
• 16:02
  Speaker 5: in every game in a season in his entire career, okay,
• 16:05
  Speaker 5: and he's had some really major major injuries on his
• 16:09
  Speaker 5: left leg. So it's not the Bronco's fault for wanting
• 16:13
  Speaker 5: some insurance at that position.
• 16:17
  Speaker 4: And he is right like he's always had a pretty
• 16:19
  Speaker 4: deep stable of running backs. His first year in New Orleans,
• 16:22
  Speaker 4: he's got Deuce McCallister and Reggie Bush, and those guys
• 16:25
  Speaker 4: combined for sixteen hundred yards. The following season, he ends
• 16:29
  Speaker 4: up utilizing three backs with Reggie Bush and Deuce and
• 16:33
  Speaker 4: Pierre Thomas as well before McCallister got injured. He's always
• 16:37
  Speaker 4: had a whole bunch of dudes that he utilizes. Now,
• 16:40
  Speaker 4: the question going into camp this year is who is
• 16:43
  Speaker 4: running back to is RJ. Harvey in his second year
• 16:46
  Speaker 4: out of UCF, Is it Jonah Coleman the running back
• 16:48
  Speaker 4: that they utilize a fourth round pick on. It's probably
• 16:50
  Speaker 4: not gonna be Julia McLoughlin. But who's gonna get the
• 16:55
  Speaker 4: bulk of the RB two?
• 16:56
  Speaker 7: Yes, so somebody's going to play.
• 16:59
  Speaker 5: I just want to have expectations that are realistic about
• 17:01
  Speaker 5: a fourth round running back. Okay, and again that's no
• 17:05
  Speaker 5: offense because fourth round running backs play in the National
• 17:07
  Speaker 5: Football League. But there's a reason he's also a fourth
• 17:11
  Speaker 5: round running back. Now, you may like the size of
• 17:12
  Speaker 5: his quads. I know Victor probably all over that he's
• 17:15
  Speaker 5: five eight, two twenty, so he's obviously a thick dude.
• 17:18
  Speaker 5: A bowling ball type of guy. But let's not get
• 17:21
  Speaker 5: too crazy. Dobbins is gonna be your main back, okay.
• 17:24
  Speaker 5: And if Dobbins is out, then it's probably gonna be
• 17:26
  Speaker 5: major committee as opposed to somewhat committee.
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: You heard JK say something there and again he was
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: saying it tongue in cheek. He was being funny, He said,
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: he pinky promised. What is the most what is the
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: most believable, most credible form of a promise that one
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: can make? Is it a pinky promise? Is it a
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: promise on my mother? I swear on my mother.
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: My mother's graves? Pretty good one?
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah? What like how far my first born? Because to me,
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: a pinky promise is too it's childlike. It doesn't mean
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: anything to me, it doesn't. That's easily breakable when you
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: bring ban being into it. But when you like, how
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: far do you go with promises to where it gets serious?
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: I've sworn on my mother's grave. Yeah, I've heard you
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: do that several times. Yeah, and that's that means I'm
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: pretty serious. I Like the most believable one is you
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: look somebody square in the eyes and say and shake
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: their hand and promise you Yeah, yeah.
• 18:20
  Speaker 7: I mean, that's your that gets down to human existence. Now,
• 18:23
  Speaker 7: just some.
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: Word, just affirm it, like not my firstborn.
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: So for you, for you there, if firm handshake and
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: look in the eye is much more promising than a than.
• 18:31
  Speaker 5: A like this like this, Vick, I promise you no
• 18:35
  Speaker 5: more than one Moly per side from now on.
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: Okay, that's a good promise. Okay, So there you go.
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: That's that's how it wros. That's that's how the problems
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: at all.
• 18:43
  Speaker 5: Who are well, I know, I'm just saying, if we're
• 18:44
  Speaker 5: just if it's not a money game, we're just goofing around,
• 18:46
  Speaker 5: maybe they'll drop another one.
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: They can't shake into the eyes, that might be it.
• 18:49
  Speaker 7: That's it, man, that's looking that might be it.
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: You know, I can't shake your hand and look elsewhere.
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: That doesn't mean anything. If I look at you in
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: the eyes and I don't, I don't hold up on
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: that promise, I'm hurting.
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: Well, there's a reason contracts were invented because someone broke
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: those promises at some point. Handshake agreements A look.
• 19:06
  Speaker 5: At what about like a blood off? What about like
• 19:07
  Speaker 5: cutting your what about like cutting your your hand?
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: Each guy cuts his hand in it at some point
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: the lawyers got involved. Okay, So look.
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: At his his stable of running backs back in twenty
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: and eleven with the Saints, Darren Sprolls, Pierre Thomas, and
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: Chris Ivory as well as mark Ingram. They combined for
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: about two thousand yards.
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: That's pretty cool. That's pretty cool.
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: That's as deep as it gets. I don't think this
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: room is as deep as that. But he has had
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: many seasons where he leans on multiple guys, Thomas, Sprolls,
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: Ivory in them all north of two hundred yards. But
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: I do think that if you get seventeen games out
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: of JK Dobbins, you've got an eleven, twelve, thirteen hundred yard.
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: I just think that JK, of all the running backs
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: in this camp, is so unique, so different than the
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: others because his ability to stop and start, his ability
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: to hunt and peck, his ability to show patients at
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: the line of scrimmage for the hole to emerge and
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: then go to it. No one else can do that.
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: No one else has that ability. We have. We got
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: guys on this on this roster who can just put
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: their head down. We got guys who can catch the
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: ball out of the backfield. But JK is the most
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: unique of the backs, which I think is vital. You
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: gotta have him healthy, got to.
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: Would you take my thought process of like running a
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: pitch count down in the middle of the season seriously?
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but I mean it doesn't Fewer carries doesn't necessarily
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: mean you're secured health.
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: Oh you're not guaranteed. Ye, but it might help, of course.
• 20:31
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it could be less chances of getting less chances
• 20:34
  Speaker 5: of getting banged around. Sure, but again it I you
• 20:39
  Speaker 5: know what I hate to do. I hate to call
• 20:41
  Speaker 5: any guy injury prone.
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: I hate that.
• 20:45
  Speaker 5: Maybe, but but maybe JK in his five years in
• 20:47
  Speaker 5: the National Football League has just been an unlucky son
• 20:50
  Speaker 5: of a gun. I mean, maybe he has. I'm gonna
• 20:52
  Speaker 5: go back. I gave you the injuries, right, but.
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: They're all big time injuries, right mcl acl lcl the
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: one he.
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: Had every l Yeah, the Liz Frank, the Liz.
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: Frank and then the Achilles all on the same left leg.
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: So basically, yeah, it was basically what it was. He
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: had a high school he had a broken leg. Is that?
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: What's that is? It? Was it all the high school?
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: Was that the left leg?
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: Tell me it wasn't the left.
• 21:23
  Speaker 5: It doesn't say, but here's here's so that he suffered
• 21:26
  Speaker 5: ankle injury at the first half of at the end
• 21:28
  Speaker 5: of the first half of the Fiesta Bowl against Clemson
• 21:31
  Speaker 5: in the NFL hamstring tear surgery in the early September
• 21:36
  Speaker 5: of twenty one, missed all the twenty one season arthroscopic stuff,
• 21:42
  Speaker 5: you know, torn achilles, left knee sprains, and that's what
• 21:48
  Speaker 5: knocked him out with the with the Chargers and then
• 21:50
  Speaker 5: of course the Liz Frank last year.
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: So he's he's undergone like a lot of stuff.
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: I wonder if this so. His leg injury in high
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: school back in twenty sixteen was a broken right fibula
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: and a severe ankle spring. I wonder if all of
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: the issues with his left leg stems back to twenty
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: sixteen start with compensation.
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: Who knows? I mean that poor guy. I can't believe
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: I'm looking at this right now again.
• 22:13
  Speaker 5: Hamstringear lcl, meniscus, acl achilles, sprained MCL in the foot spring.
• 22:21
  Speaker 7: I don't know. I don't know how he is.
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: That's a that's a credit to him. It's a credit
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: to him to come back from all that.
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: He was on pace for a thirteen hundred yard season
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: last year. It's not just running. He's running at an
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: elite level. For him to say, if I stay healthy
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: for seventeen games, I think I can be the number
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: one back in the league. Is like he has to
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: have an unbelievable year to do that. But he's not
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: that far off.
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: No, he was. He was.
• 22:43
  Speaker 5: I would argue a top would you say, top five,
• 22:45
  Speaker 5: top six back in the league before he got hurt.
• 22:48
  Speaker 5: In terms of just his production last season, I think
• 22:51
  Speaker 5: he was right there. Would you still goet his yards
• 22:53
  Speaker 5: per carry over five really good?
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yards per attempt last year JK. Dobbins was fifth
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: in the NFL yards per game he was sixth, So yeah, he's,
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: without a doubt, top ten, without a doubt. I wonder if, like,
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: if he stays healthy, man, that's a team that should
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: win the AFC West. He's that good. But it's the
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: biggest if. Maybe at camp right now, it's a bigger
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: if than what's happening in the inside linebacking court. It's
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: a bigger if than what's happening with the tight ends,
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: because we've seen the Broncos can win without production from
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: the tight end room.
• 23:27
  Speaker 5: Well, I mean Evan Ingram was supposed to be that guy.
• 23:29
  Speaker 5: Let's see what happens this year. Let's let's see again, Vick.
• 23:32
  Speaker 5: You made a very good point at the beginning of
• 23:33
  Speaker 5: the program when we were talking about about Jalen Wattle
• 23:37
  Speaker 5: and what he not only what he brings, but what
• 23:40
  Speaker 5: he does for the offense and being able to open
• 23:43
  Speaker 5: things up for other players. Just having that threat there
• 23:48
  Speaker 5: is something you're going to have. The defenses are absolutely
• 23:52
  Speaker 5: going to have to pay attention to it.
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: If you're an outside linebacker or if you're a safety
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: and you see Jalen Waddle in the slot and they're
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: gonna run quick hitch, you gotta keep an eye on him.
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: That's gonna allow Evan Ingram to fill that hole, that gap.
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: I'm telling you, it all works together.
• 24:08
  Speaker 7: He can, he can.
• 24:08
  Speaker 5: He can run a crossing route and clear out some
• 24:10
  Speaker 5: space dragon linebacker with him and then Ingram is wide open. Yeah,
• 24:15
  Speaker 5: so it can all it can all work.
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: Is that why Evan Ingram had such a great weekend
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: Because every time I looked up, Evan Ingram caught a
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: pass downfield. Yeah.
• 24:24
  Speaker 5: But the thing again, I'm gonna go and and repeat
• 24:27
  Speaker 5: myself where I say the defense is back and off man.
• 24:30
  Speaker 5: The defense is out there just to run some traffic
• 24:34
  Speaker 5: and you know, take up some space.
• 24:35
  Speaker 7: They're not they're not really defending.
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: What are you talking about. It didn't look like this
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: last year. So you're saying that they were trying. Last
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: year the defense.
• 24:44
  Speaker 7: Was I'm not saying that.
• 24:46
  Speaker 5: What I'm saying is that I specifically watched many drills.
• 24:50
  Speaker 5: I specifically watched many drills with the DB's give up
• 24:54
  Speaker 5: and let the player catch the ball.
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: So why didn't that happen last year?
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: Then? I don't know.
• 24:57
  Speaker 5: You tell me, maybe it's a different The offense is
• 24:59
  Speaker 5: getting better, Okay, good, I mean the third year and
• 25:01
  Speaker 5: a Sean Payton offense for most of these players, certainly
• 25:04
  Speaker 5: for bo Nicks going into his third year as a starter.
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: There's other guys who have been here for longer than that,
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: going back to the Russell Wilson years. That's fine. I
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: want to see it when they have true defenders trying
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: to defend. That's all I'm saying. True guys trying to
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: break up a pass, because no, you're not going to
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: see it until you won't believe it until week one. Well,
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: because you say the same thing about a preseason game.
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: Maybe think about Wednesday's practice when they're out here for
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: two and a half hours.
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: Listen.
• 25:29
  Speaker 5: I have all the optimism in the world, Raj. I'm
• 25:31
  Speaker 5: very optimistic about what this is going to look like.
• 25:34
  Speaker 5: But we gotta see it.
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: By the way, David Sills the fifth.
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: Oh, we got a fifth that was on this ross.
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: David Sills the fifth back in twenty or twenty twenty three.
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: We're number eighty seven for the Broncos. Six foot three,
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: two pounds, David Sills. I think the fifth.
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: I think when you get to five in the Roman
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: numeral on your last name, that's officially royalty. Now seriously,
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: that's you. You're now your royalty material when you get
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: the five, no offense to let's say the great city
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: of Pueblo.
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: I could give David Sills the fifth castle, and.
• 26:11
  Speaker 7: So if you have five generations of people living in Pueblo.
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: The royalty. Yes, okay, all right, I got two hockey
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: guys next to me. I'm glad you brought up royalty up.
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: Name the former NHL player who plays a role on
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: the hit movie The Odyssey, Christopher Nolan Sean Avery. Sean Avery.
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: Sean Avery is all over this movie. He is sort
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: of the bright hand man of Odysseus. He plays uh
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: Loamas Lotamus Lotamus. He's cast as a guy named Lotamus
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: who's a barbarian. He's a he's a fighter. You're I'm serious,
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: that's Sean Avery.
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: You know who would look really good in as Jersey
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: right now? Sean Avery?
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: Well, he's all actor now, he's an actor.
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: Sean Avery would be an awesome.
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: He's also for years old.
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: He's also I know that a version of Sean Avery.
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: You know who I want to be? Sean Avery? The
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: who's the little dude that they got from uh Nashville
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: saying little dudes.
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: I want LaRue to be Sean Avery. He's a former
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: first rounder.
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: Man, you need a little water that buzzes around and
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: hits everything and kisses people off.
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: Have you guys seen the Odyssey?
• 27:18
  Speaker 7: I have not.
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: I'm waiting it. Did you see it in I'm seventy millimeters?
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: Okay, how did you get tickets.
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: For that thing? Yeah? All right? But is it good
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: as in plot or good as in special effects and
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: all that crap? Because all right, everything, because I don't
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: care about like all the special effects and like what
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: was that movie that everybody. Everybody thought it was so good.
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: I thought it was boring. Oppenheimer. I thought that was boring.
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: I was like, I'm looking at the moviegoing, I know
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: the Oppenheimer story.
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: This is terrible, don't you know?
• 27:48
  Speaker 7: Yeah?
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: I know, but give it to everything story.
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: He's been around for thousands of years.
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. Give me a good give me
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: a good plot. I don't need all the special effects.
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: An atomic bomb in a good plot. That's the biggest
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: thing that's ever happened.
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: You're gonna have it.
• 28:04
  Speaker 5: You know what I'm doing. You know what I'm doing.
• 28:07
  Speaker 5: I'm just waiting for John Wick to come back and
• 28:09
  Speaker 5: whack some guys.
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: How many? How many different versions do you want?
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: They have been killed me.
• 28:14
  Speaker 5: I don't know, man, But in his movies. How many
• 28:16
  Speaker 5: guys is John Wick wasted in his in all of
• 28:18
  Speaker 5: his movies?
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 28:19
  Speaker 5: But if on him wouldn't exist, right, But it's got
• 28:23
  Speaker 5: to be like, I don't know, a couple hundred dudes, easy, right,
• 28:27
  Speaker 5: I mean, how many dudes?
• 28:28
  Speaker 7: Has he smoked?
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: A lot?
• 28:31
  Speaker 5: The first one man in the nightclub, he smoked like
• 28:33
  Speaker 5: fifty seven dudes. I'll just I'll just wait here patiently
• 28:38
  Speaker 5: till John Wick comes back.
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: Vick, you have an interview lined up later today. It's
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: not going to be Demani Leech. She's gonna join us
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: later on in the week. But today you are interviewing.
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: Koom Zach Allen, number seventy three on the NFL's Top
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: one hundred, one of the more underappreciated, underrated broncos. I
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: think because when you say Broncos, right, people, what comes
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: to mind? I say, hey, go at the everybody says,
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: how's bo look right? How does Jalen Wattle look? Hey?
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: Patrick's or Tanzas stud Oh my goodness? And how far
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: down in that conversation does Zach Allen's name come up?
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: How does he feel about that?
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: Well? You know, I don't he cares about the attention
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: guys it. I'll pro he got paid though, certainly so,
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: he got paid.
• 29:21
  Speaker 5: I mean, that's probably what matters to him the most,
• 29:23
  Speaker 5: is getting paid. I don't think he needs.
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: All the love.
• 29:25
  Speaker 7: I got a question for you to ask, Zach Allen.
• 29:27
  Speaker 5: With the departure of JFM and whomever takes that job,
• 29:32
  Speaker 5: what does that look like now? And I'm sure he's
• 29:34
  Speaker 5: going to be very very you know, conciliatory to the
• 29:38
  Speaker 5: guy who's by him in the interior, right or the
• 29:40
  Speaker 5: guys who are by him in the interior. But I
• 29:43
  Speaker 5: want to find out what he thinks it looks like
• 29:45
  Speaker 5: with JFM out of that rotation and onto another team.
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: We will hear from Sean Payton on one of those players,
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: Malcolm Roach on the other side, don't go anywhere. It's
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: out the tude ninety two to five.
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: He's got a lot of juice. He's one of those
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: compound multipliers. A lot of his traits. I mean, it's infectious.
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: I've said that about JK. You hear him before you
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: see him. They practice hard, and I think, you know,
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: all the way back to when he was undrafted out
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: of Texas and we signed him, the improvement that his
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: position for him has been remarkable, and so he's always
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: going to be looking at what he can do a
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: little better, how he can play on third down, you know,
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: relative to the rush. He's got really good football IQ
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: and I think that it kind of shows up on
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: film even at the defensive tackle position.
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: That was Sean Payton talking about Malcolm Roach and his
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: ability to fill in for Jonathan Franklin Myers as JFM
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: departs for Tennessee in a big payday. There a little
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: bit of a hole in the interior of the defensive line.
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: We are minutes away from the Broncos beginning practice out
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: here at Broncos Park, full pads. That's not just uppers,
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: that is uppers and lowers. This is this is real
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: football today. We're to see a whole bunch of this
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: no pads on Tuesday, and expected another padded practice on
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: Wednesday that they might go two and a half hours.
• 31:06
  Speaker 4: By the way, the no shoes bug has bitten Broncos
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: tight end Evan Ainger.
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: He's always done that though he was one of the first.
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: I'm just laughing at all of these pre practice rituals
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: that these guys go through. You know, everyone's got their
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: own thing. But before you go t off, you got
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: your little stretch routine right before you go do anything.
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: But some of the some of the histrionics, some of
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: the theater that I see on this is hilarious to me.
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: These I mean, come on, what are we doing here?
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: The backpedal for who's number thirty two?
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: I mean that's a given. I mean you get a
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: back pedal the.
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: Very the very slow backpedal from Dane Key, the rookie
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: out of Nebraska.
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: I mean, highknees is standard, right, we got a guy
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: doing high knees over there. What's the standard?
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: What's the lamest thing you do before a round of golf?
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: I don't I don't know. I mean, what do you
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: mean by lane.
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: In terms of your your warma broutine? Is there something
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: that makes.
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: You look like a ye child's pose? Child?
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: I've seen you do the child's pose before golf.
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: Yet.
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah. You get on your belly, basically on your knees,
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: and you stretch your back out and then you and
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: then you're the Superman. You got on the Superman. Superman
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: was your You lay straight down on your chest and
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: your belly, raise your arms and your legs at.
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: The same I've seen him do this before a round
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: of golf. Lower back, he grounds himself. Yeah, he gets to.
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: Be one with the course. I don't think my shoes
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: off when I do it.
• 32:27
  Speaker 7: I just do it with.
• 32:29
  Speaker 5: I've seen all the child's pose is why I guess
• 32:31
  Speaker 5: I'm looking at the quarterbacks. Sub Bonex again doing this
• 32:33
  Speaker 5: thing with his arms. You know, he's walking, he's doing
• 32:35
  Speaker 5: he's doing this thing. I guess that looses the shoulders this. Yeah, yeah,
• 32:40
  Speaker 5: you know what I want to see? What I don't
• 32:41
  Speaker 5: I don't.
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: I don't know what any of that stuff does or
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: what it means, but it does. That's a sequence thing.
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: Have you guys seen the backpack that Paul Schemes wears
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: before he pitches. No, he has a backpack that essentially
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: has like a a water cooler from an office space
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: on the back of it, and he just fires his
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: shoulders with this huge backpack full of water on his back.
• 33:03
  Speaker 4: I want to see bo doing that. I want to
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: see water backpack on.
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: Who is the quarterback that made it, very made the
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: very famous hip thrust, Dak Prescott. That's right, that's right,
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: the hip thrust that now everyone's doing in San Antonio.
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: They do that. Pregame the spurs, they do the hip
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: thrust just to get everybody going.
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: So Paul Skeens wears this backpack that has a bunch
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: of water in it, and he simulates pitching the entire time,
• 33:30
  Speaker 4: and he has to slash the water from left to right.
• 33:32
  Speaker 5: Huh, Victor's your guy, Red Murdoch over here against the facility.
• 33:37
  Speaker 5: He had his he was kind of turned towards the
• 33:38
  Speaker 5: wall and it's like he's wiping. He's using his Yeah,
• 33:42
  Speaker 5: he's doing a wipe on, wipe office.
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: Well, that's a fundamental practice that anybody that has enjoyed success,
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: you do wipe on, wipe off, I mean wax off.
• 33:51
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 33:52
  Speaker 5: Linebackers have been known rajs for years to wax on
• 33:55
  Speaker 5: and also wax off.
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: Yes, you realize that, right, Okay? Good.
• 34:02
  Speaker 5: By the way, you hear the crowd cheering in the background,
• 34:04
  Speaker 5: that's the rookies. You go over and they run by
• 34:05
  Speaker 5: the crowd and come on, get hyped up. And people
• 34:08
  Speaker 5: out here, man, they love their football team. They're looking
• 34:10
  Speaker 5: for any reason to be excited about anything. It can
• 34:13
  Speaker 5: be a great catch, it can be a touchdown pass
• 34:17
  Speaker 5: where the dB gave up fifteen yards earlier and the
• 34:20
  Speaker 5: guys by himself just sitting there. Fans just want to
• 34:23
  Speaker 5: cheer and getting side.
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: You know, I'm not easy to get these tickets sold.
• 34:26
  Speaker 7: Let them enjoy themselves, man.
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: I actually feel bad for a lot of these young
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: undrafted players when they come to this camp because there's
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: not much room on this roster. I mean, you're big,
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: there's not really any I know it's it's basically competing
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: for spots on other rosters. That's what you're doing. You're
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: you're looking to get tape because this this team doesn't
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: have room. There's no turnover, there's no room at this end.
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: Like or how many rookies are actually going to make
• 34:54
  Speaker 4: this team. I don't know, Like Jonah Coleman's gonna make it?
• 34:59
  Speaker 4: Is that it? Or are they gonna bring in who's
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: the fifth round tight end that justin Joe makes it?
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: Coleman makes it.
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: Obviously their their number, their second round pick. The An M.
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: Tyler us he was one of the guys, by the way,
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: who was over there getting the crowd all pumped up.
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: Tyler says, that's the most nervous he's been was when
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: he was doing the rookie pump up and he had
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: to do it by himself. Plumba says that the nervous
• 35:25
  Speaker 4: nervous don't know. He said, it was like going out
• 35:27
  Speaker 4: on stage in your underwear.
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: All you're doing is raising your hands.
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: I I I kind of looked at him cock eyed.
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: I was like, everybody in the stands wants to see you.
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: They have no idea who you are. At that point,
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: But you're a superstar. It doesn't matter. Oneta makes it,
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: Coleman makes it, Joe Lee maybe does that mean Kage
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: Casey the Boise State tackle makes it?
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: Not much?
• 35:47
  Speaker 5: Man, There's there's not a whole lot of room. And
• 35:49
  Speaker 5: I'm looking at it too. I mean, you got a
• 35:51
  Speaker 5: tight end in the fifth round. You gotta tight end
• 35:53
  Speaker 5: in the seventh round. Is one of them gonna make it?
• 35:56
  Speaker 5: I mean he got a ton of tight ends in
• 35:58
  Speaker 5: camp already. I mean you already have Ingrim and Troupman
• 36:00
  Speaker 5: for sure? What about Krawl? Has Crol gone? I don't
• 36:03
  Speaker 5: think what about Adkins?
• 36:05
  Speaker 7: Was he gone?
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: Or sorry?
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: No?
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: I think Atkins makes it. I Thinkroll's got a chance
• 36:09
  Speaker 4: to miss the run.
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: By the way, the guys are in full pads today.
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: They're wearing full pads for the practice hands too. And
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: I believe, I believe I see there underneath the stairs.
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: I believe Drew Sanders. You see a four one, he exists,
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: is practicing today. Okay, I'm gonna need someone else's eyes
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: out there because I got old man eyes. But you
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: see him, yeah, Jesse sees him, all right.
• 36:32
  Speaker 4: He exists. Drew Sanders in the flesh out here at
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: practice before we get to Nelly and a fact checker.
• 36:39
  Speaker 4: MLB Trade deadline.
• 36:40
  Speaker 5: It's right, we really don't know what's wrong with him, right,
• 36:44
  Speaker 5: don't know what's wrong with like ot Yeah, it's undisclosed, right.
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: I think it was a lower body injury during OTAs Man.
• 36:51
  Speaker 7: This guy, he's hardly been on the field.
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: Bro.
• 36:56
  Speaker 4: MLB Trade deadline, four pm Mountain today. Do the Rockies
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: trade Hunter Goodman by the time the deadline comes?
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah? See the game he had Saturday night, A couple bombs.
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: It's gonna take a lot. And I'm looking at some
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: of the returns on some of these players being dealt now,
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: and I'm not sure I'd be happy with any of
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: that return to the honest hit deef on the Rockies.
• 37:16
  Speaker 5: It would have to be to me, it would have
• 37:18
  Speaker 5: to be a pretty sweet package. I mean, the guy's
• 37:21
  Speaker 5: only twenty six years.
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: Old, three years of team control left. And again I
• 37:25
  Speaker 4: think I look at the schoobl deal and go, if
• 37:28
  Speaker 4: the Tigers only got that for Terrek Scouble, what are
• 37:30
  Speaker 4: you really gonna get for Hunter Goodman?
• 37:33
  Speaker 5: Dude, you got a twenty six year old catcher who's
• 37:36
  Speaker 5: hit thirty three bombs.
• 37:37
  Speaker 7: This year.
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: I mean that's pretty flipping good.
• 37:40
  Speaker 4: I mean again, there's a chance that he breaks. He
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: has to get hot at the end of the season.
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: He could break the Johnny benchrecker.
• 37:45
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he could, so I guess the point would be
• 37:47
  Speaker 5: it would have to be a hell of a return,
• 37:50
  Speaker 5: a hell of a return, because I want that guy
• 37:51
  Speaker 5: to be a part of whatever it is they think
• 37:53
  Speaker 5: they're building or trying to build. I would like that
• 37:55
  Speaker 5: guy to be a part of it.
• 37:56
  Speaker 4: Recent trades, the Angels trade away Jose Soriano to the
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: Toronto Blue Jays. The Phillies get infielder Louis Arias from
• 38:05
  Speaker 4: the Giants in exchange for two prospects. Brooks Raley goes
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: from the Mets to the Phillies. All the Mets and
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: Phillies never make trades. There has been one catcher traded
• 38:16
  Speaker 4: from the Mets to the Dodgers, Brent Roartvett, who gets
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: nothing in return. If someone really wants a power hitting catcher,
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: you have, without a doubt, the bluest chip on the.
• 38:27
  Speaker 5: Way, without a doubt. I think the Yankees and the
• 38:30
  Speaker 5: Red Sox could. But how many catchers did the Red
• 38:32
  Speaker 5: Sox used this year?
• 38:33
  Speaker 4: Well, they're all hitting like their body ones essentially exactly.
• 38:37
  Speaker 5: And that's my point is that you get the raise
• 38:40
  Speaker 5: up front there and you get the socks battling.
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: How laughable the way, Oh they're so bad. You think
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: it's bad here in Denver. Double the payroll and it's
• 38:49
  Speaker 4: still the same team in terms of wins and losses.
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: It's it's a disaster. But at least they're trading everyone.
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: Paralta to uh where par Aalta go to the Rays?
• 38:58
  Speaker 4: I think, yeah, the Palta to the Rays. That's a
• 39:01
  Speaker 4: big piece off the board. I don't think he did
• 39:04
  Speaker 4: enough in one start, but Kyle Freeland a complete gamel.
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: That was really cool to watch, really cool to see
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: him finish that game. I thought they're gonna yank him
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: after a while. I was like, come on, leave him in,
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: Leave him in.
• 39:17
  Speaker 4: That'd be a really interesting, like final game to go
• 39:19
  Speaker 4: out on k If that's the case, I don't think
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: he gets traded. He'd be a very intriguing, like middle
• 39:26
  Speaker 4: of the bullpen, long relief left handed arm for a contender.
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: See that's team's got to figure out how much of
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: your big numbers because inflated eras and all this, how
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: much of that is just the course effect. How much
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: of that is just in your head? Because of course,
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: how much better will you be if you get away
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: from that ballpark?
• 39:44
  Speaker 4: Well, who's the that stud pitcher that they drafted years
• 39:46
  Speaker 4: ago who went on? He was with the Hoffman Jeff
• 39:49
  Speaker 4: Hoffman can pitch. He was supposed to be a stud here,
• 39:52
  Speaker 4: but he couldn't pitch. And then, for I think a
• 39:54
  Speaker 4: lot of it is that I wouldn't be shocked that
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: if if they trade Kyle Freeland, that he turns into
• 39:59
  Speaker 4: a servisable number four starter on a good team.
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: Not at all.
• 40:05
  Speaker 4: They need to make a trade. It would be good
• 40:07
  Speaker 4: for the Rockies to move some of those arms, entertain
• 40:11
  Speaker 4: the idea of moving on from Hunter Goodman because they
• 40:13
  Speaker 4: don't know, Like we don't know if baseball next year.
• 40:16
  Speaker 5: You're right, you're right, and we very well may not
• 40:18
  Speaker 5: because of what the Dodgers have done.
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: It's just ridiculous. And we talked about.
• 40:22
  Speaker 5: That way earlier in the program. But what about Senza Man,
• 40:25
  Speaker 5: what about Senza? I'm ready to depart. All my guys
• 40:30
  Speaker 5: can be gone.
• 40:30
  Speaker 7: That's fine.
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: If I'm the Phillies, I'm taking a chance on him.
• 40:33
  Speaker 4: If I'm the raise. I'm taking a chance on a
• 40:35
  Speaker 4: veteran arm that can help me for one or two
• 40:37
  Speaker 4: innings a piece without it.
• 40:38
  Speaker 5: I wish I truly knew what the Rockies plan was.
• 40:40
  Speaker 5: I wish that I was. I wish that I was
• 40:43
  Speaker 5: privy to what their internal discussions have been, or I
• 40:46
  Speaker 5: wish bick that they had actually laid out to the
• 40:48
  Speaker 5: public this is what our game plan is, so I
• 40:51
  Speaker 5: can follow along and I can make these decisions easier.
• 40:54
  Speaker 7: But I really don't know what their game plan is.
• 40:55
  Speaker 5: I don't know what they truly are doing as an
• 40:58
  Speaker 5: organization other than trying to get better.
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: See Hunter Goodman is fun to watch. He's a reason
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: you might go to the ballpark man. He was fun
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: to watch Saturday night. I don't think, I don't. I
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: don't unload him unless I get some serious stuff back. Don't.
• 41:12
  Speaker 4: Final thoughts as we head into a fully padded practice,
• 41:16
  Speaker 4: not just uppers. They've got pat pants on as well. Today,
• 41:19
  Speaker 4: moj what are you looking forward to the most? Who
• 41:21
  Speaker 4: are you looking forward to the most?
• 41:23
  Speaker 5: That's a great question. I think this, uh this Jonah
• 41:27
  Speaker 5: ellis progression. The comments of Sean Payton and again he'll
• 41:33
  Speaker 5: he'll compliment, guys, no problem, but the fact that, hey,
• 41:36
  Speaker 5: we're thankful we didn't move him to the inside because
• 41:39
  Speaker 5: he's really progressing as an edge guy. That tells me
• 41:44
  Speaker 5: all I need to know whether or not Jonathan Cooper
• 41:47
  Speaker 5: is in.
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: Legal trouble this year. However that breaks out, I don't know.
• 41:51
  Speaker 5: I think Jonah Ellis is gonna get plenty of snaps
• 41:53
  Speaker 5: trying to get to the quarterback this year.
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: So I'm very curious about that pic.
• 41:57
  Speaker 4: One player you have your eyes on today is.
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: Boll Bow in the backup, whoever that might be, whether
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: it's going to be Stidham or what's his name? Eller? Yeah,
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: what's his name? Well? I want to see who they
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: going number two now? Because last Saturday they went Ellnger
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: number two? Do they rotate that? Champagne said, don't read
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: into it. Don't read anything into what I'm gonna read today, Nelly.
• 42:21
  Speaker 4: Before we get out of here, let's get caught up
• 42:22
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• 42:25
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• 42:36
  Speaker 4: Probably the best discussion that you guys had all day
• 42:40
  Speaker 4: came from a fake news report that Vic fell for
• 42:43
  Speaker 4: on Twitter.
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: Here's a little snippet of that discussion. Wait a minute, now,
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: that Drew Holiday news just broke. Drew Holiday has agreed
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: to a contract.
• 42:52
  Speaker 4: Buyout guess where he's going in.
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: Portland Trailblazers and intends to sign a veteran minimum with
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: the Philadelphia seventy six Shocker. Man, it is gonna be
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: easy to root against phillyas yes, it is. Oh my god.
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: A few minutes later, hold on, uh oh, I got
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: got Oh no, Vic, what did you do to us?
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: That's a fake account. Well, just to defend myself, A
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: lot of people got got on that and it did
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: make for the good the best five minutes of radio
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: on the show today. It's gonna do us piling on
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: the sixers.
• 43:27
  Speaker 4: It's gonna do it for us today for Mark Moser,
• 43:29
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• 43:31
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• 43:34
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• 43:38
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• 43:41
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