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We Advocate for Social Injustices and Human Rights| PRISON PIPELINE | DWAYNE & DR. SISSY| LIVE ON DA CREW PODCAST DEC 10TH & 24THWelcome to · DA CREW Podcast

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  Speaker 1: K legs and gentlemen, May I have your attention please,
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  Speaker 1: and the show starts in seven line eight seven six
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  Speaker 1: five shoot fun cool Well.
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  Speaker 2: Hello, Hello, and welcome.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome to tonight's episode of The Crew Podcast. We have
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  Speaker 3: two special hosts that's joining us tonight. They're gonna be
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  Speaker 3: sharing about the prison pipeline, something that's very needy. So
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  Speaker 3: tonight's episode. I'm super super excited to have these two
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  Speaker 3: amazing co hosts to share tonight. We have Duwayne and
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  Speaker 3: doctor Sisi. I'm gonna go ahead and bring them up.
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  Speaker 4: Them up, and yeah, go ahead and share this out
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  Speaker 5: Hey, welcome.
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  Speaker 2: We're gonna be talking about the prison pipeline from reform
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  Speaker 2: to recivitism. We got the ours going on. Dwayne, how
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  Speaker 2: are you?
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  Speaker 5: I'm fine to see how good.
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  Speaker 2: Good. Are you showing that your screen is frozen on
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  Speaker 2: your end?
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  Speaker 3: Uh?
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  Speaker 2: My screen is just okay, there we go, little glitching.
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  Speaker 5: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: I am in California, and I know we have a governor,
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  Speaker 2: Governor Newsom, who has done so much for the prison system.
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  Speaker 2: In sixteen, Proposition fifty seven was passed and so it
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  Speaker 2: reforms a couple of things. It reduces sentences from felonies
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  Speaker 2: down to misdemeanors, and of course what that does is
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  Speaker 2: it affects the time, so it'll cut down on the
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  Speaker 2: population within the prison system. So that's that was a
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  Speaker 2: very helpful thing. He's also working on some legislation currently
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  Speaker 2: for lifers, so I'm really excited to see that. I
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  Speaker 2: think it's.
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  Speaker 5: It's about time, most definitely, most definitely in this country,
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  Speaker 5: we've we've had an epidemic for decades of what everyone
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  Speaker 5: here's that term prison pipeline or the prison the school,
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  Speaker 5: the prison pipeline or this prip to prison pipeline, and
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  Speaker 5: we really never get in debt to what that really means.
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  Speaker 5: And in this instance today we want to kind of
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  Speaker 5: deal with the overall act effects of what the prison
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  Speaker 5: pipeline really is and how it affects our daily life
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  Speaker 5: and how it affects the things that we do, how
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  Speaker 5: we do it, and how we can do what Governor
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  Speaker 5: Newsom and a few other governors across this nation have
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  Speaker 5: been doing over the past few years to cartel people
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  Speaker 5: going to prison, giving them alternative programs to where they
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  Speaker 5: can get their lives back in order and everything else.
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  Speaker 5: When we look at what we call a pipeline, meaning
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  Speaker 5: that something is giving us a straight path to another
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  Speaker 5: end from a start point where we begin, we can
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  Speaker 5: see even in our school systems from grade school to intermediate,
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  Speaker 5: middle school to high school, there's a lot of the
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  Speaker 5: things that they do and how they teach our kids,
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  Speaker 5: and all the way down to the tables and chairs
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  Speaker 5: that they sit in in the lunch rooms and how
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  Speaker 5: they've actually changed that, and a lot of that seating
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  Speaker 5: is the same seating that you see when you go
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  Speaker 5: into the prison systems, whether that's in the state of
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  Speaker 5: Texas where I am, or in the in the state
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  Speaker 5: of California where Sissy is, you see a lot of
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  Speaker 5: these things that mimic what we see in the prison system,
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  Speaker 5: and it's almost like it's grooming our children to be
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  Speaker 5: able to be comfortable to the aspects of prison. Remember
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  Speaker 5: back in the day when we were growing up, you
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  Speaker 5: will always hear your parents say, don't do this, don't
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  Speaker 5: do that, and we will be so fearful of doing
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  Speaker 5: it because of them giving us those, uh, those warnings.
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  Speaker 5: These days, we're our society has been so conditioned to
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  Speaker 5: be used to those things that prison brings. So you
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  Speaker 5: hear kids saying things like, I don't fear prison, I'm
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  Speaker 5: not scared of jail because they've already been there in
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  Speaker 5: their local elementary school, in their their local middle school.
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  Speaker 5: The buses that they ride are the same bluebird buses
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  Speaker 5: that the prison are taken in when they go to prison.
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  Speaker 5: So it's a lot of familiar, familiar moments that we
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  Speaker 5: have conditioned our kids and even ourselves to when it
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  Speaker 5: comes to prison. And so those are the pipeline issues
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  Speaker 5: that we don't really touch and we don't discuss. More So,
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  Speaker 5: we discuss the disparities of prison, the disparities of charging,
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  Speaker 5: the disparities of sentences, and all of that different things,
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  Speaker 5: but we don't talk about the root cause of getting
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  Speaker 5: to that disparity, the root cause of making our kids
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  Speaker 5: so desensitized to where they're willing to go with their
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  Speaker 5: friends and Robert Store are willing to go with their
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  Speaker 5: friends and commit a crime because they don't fear the
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  Speaker 5: consequences because they have been conditioned to understand and know
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  Speaker 5: what that feels like. Because they're in a classroom all
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  Speaker 5: day long. That is telling them they can't use their
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  Speaker 5: cell phones. You can't talk in class, you can't eat
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  Speaker 5: in class, you can't do this, you can't do that.
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  Speaker 5: And that's the same thing you get in prison. You
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  Speaker 5: can't take your cell phone with you, you can't do
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  Speaker 5: any of those things. And so that's the conditioning part
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  Speaker 5: of the prison. The pipeline, Sissy, could you speak to
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  Speaker 5: that for a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you know, from the time before I was even born,
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  Speaker 2: you had magazines with pin ups and all it was
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  Speaker 2: was a gal with a bathing suit. Well take a
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  Speaker 2: look at what you see on beaches these days, Oh
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  Speaker 2: my goodness. So you know, over the years, what they
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  Speaker 2: would be considered desensitization compared to now is nothing. And
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  Speaker 2: you know subliminally too, you have a lot of things
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  Speaker 2: fed and to children as they grow up, and so
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  Speaker 2: it becomes second nature to them. And also peer pressure.
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  Speaker 2: Well there's something to be said about that wanting to
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  Speaker 2: be accepted, you don't something you wouldn't normally do, or
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  Speaker 2: you're taught not to do you would do anyhow, and
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  Speaker 2: then all of a sudden you're faced with something and
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  Speaker 2: you're like, oh, I guess I really should have thought
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  Speaker 2: this out. So I think a lot of that has
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  Speaker 2: to do with it as well, besides the desensitization aspect
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  Speaker 2: of it. But there are a lot of juvenile programs
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  Speaker 2: that actually work hand in hand with different counties if
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  Speaker 2: there are infractions, if things move forward where a child
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  Speaker 2: gets into the system, and they have to do that
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  Speaker 2: to give them those aha moments otherwise that they wouldn't
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  Speaker 2: have had.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, And that's another element as well. Some states, in
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  Speaker 5: some counties and cities do an excellent job at diversion
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  Speaker 5: programs to keep our youth out of the system. You
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  Speaker 5: do have some that don't. I know here in Texas
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  Speaker 5: we have a lot of instances where parents are dragged
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  Speaker 5: down to the actual jail to the county to have
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  Speaker 5: to give answer for truancy for things that would normally
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  Speaker 5: be something that would handle at the principal's office. Now
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  Speaker 5: they're making it a criminal offense. Misdemeanor, mind you, but
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  Speaker 5: it's still a criminal offense that if something doesn't happen.
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  Speaker 5: The first thing the kid sees at five to six
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  Speaker 5: years old is the SRO officer, the police officer assigned
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  Speaker 5: to the school. And so this officer that has a
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  Speaker 5: gun and has handcuffs and it has a police car outside,
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  Speaker 5: this kid is now seeing that for the first time
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  Speaker 5: instead of seeing their counselor or seeing their teacher or
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  Speaker 5: coach or the principal to discipline. So we've already started
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  Speaker 5: taking the discipline out the hands of the parent. We
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  Speaker 5: took the discipline out of the hand of the administration,
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  Speaker 5: and now we put discipline right onto the doorstep of
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  Speaker 5: the law enforcement officer who introduces you to the court system,
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  Speaker 5: who introduced you to prison. And so those are the
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  Speaker 5: beginning fruits of the prison of the prison pipeline. And
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  Speaker 5: that really started in the late nineties going into the
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  Speaker 5: early two thousands to where we start making that condition
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  Speaker 5: of grooming our kids to be familiar with law enforcement.
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  Speaker 5: On the tail end of this may sing you the
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  Speaker 5: jail rather than law enforcement. When I was growing up,
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  Speaker 5: we saw him driving down the street, we were flagging
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  Speaker 5: him down. So we can get a football card or
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  Speaker 5: a basketball car, or we could just talk to him
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  Speaker 5: and say, hey, run your lights so we can hear.
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  Speaker 5: Those were the interactions of law enforcement in the late
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  Speaker 5: seventies in the early eighties. But now we have to
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  Speaker 5: where a kid wouldn't even the stop an officer. I
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  Speaker 5: spoke to an officer the other day and he actually
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  Speaker 5: jumped because I actually was speaking to him and said hi,
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  Speaker 5: and it made me laugh. And after he got through jumping,
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  Speaker 5: I was like, oh man, you conditioned, are chie? He
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  Speaker 5: just busted out laughing because he thought about it. But
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  Speaker 5: it's a moment to where even they have been conditioned
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  Speaker 5: to have the mentality of the prison pipeline because they
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  Speaker 5: have to look for certain people, they have to be
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  Speaker 5: aware of certain things. They're looking at our youth and
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  Speaker 5: not even innocent anymore that they need any moment harm
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  Speaker 5: them as officers. So everyone on every side is starting
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  Speaker 5: to be conditioned for this thing in this moment that's
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  Speaker 5: called prison, the prison pipeline. And so we as a society,
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  Speaker 5: and what we're hoping to start the discussion of tonight
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  Speaker 5: is acknowledging that, but also looking at what we can
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  Speaker 5: do from our standpoint, because everyone can go through their
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  Speaker 5: legislature and get changed. We can maybe write them on
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  Speaker 5: all of that stuff. But this stuff that's so much
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  Speaker 5: of a loan process. But we all can start in
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  Speaker 5: our own homes. We can start in our local communities
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  Speaker 5: with our own schools, and we can begin to have
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  Speaker 5: them with our school boards change some of those programs.
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  Speaker 5: And as Sissy was talking about, where some of these
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  Speaker 5: cities have made steps in strides to give our kids alternative,
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  Speaker 5: alternative discipline. Rather than having them the first time they
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  Speaker 5: get in trouble they're looking at the officer in the
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  Speaker 5: back of the car. At five six years old, they
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  Speaker 5: would actually have someone mentoring them, getting with their parents
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  Speaker 5: and helping them divert from that bad behavior. And I
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  Speaker 5: think that's what we need to start working on identifying
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  Speaker 5: the things that look like in that minute prison and
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  Speaker 5: start getting those things out of our school. Let's go
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  Speaker 5: back to regular chairs for the luntro go ahead, Sisty.
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  Speaker 2: There are a lot of programs, not as many as
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  Speaker 2: there should be, but many towns, many cities have like
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  Speaker 2: a Boys and Girls club, a center, if you will,
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  Speaker 2: which is so helpful. It helps the kids with homework,
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  Speaker 2: they play sports with one another, they have that camaraderie,
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  Speaker 2: They feel wanted. When you have they say idle hands,
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  Speaker 2: You know the same from idle hands. You don't want
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  Speaker 2: a child to have idle hands when they have idle
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  Speaker 2: hands easily influenced into doing things that perhaps are a
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  Speaker 2: no no. And so between the time school lets out
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  Speaker 2: and parents get off of work, this is a really
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  Speaker 2: good in between. They have teachers or volunteers even there
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  Speaker 2: that help the kids with their homework. And also they
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  Speaker 2: just they provide a sense of belonging. And I truly believe,
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  Speaker 2: at the heart of hearts with anybody, a sense of
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  Speaker 2: belonging really has to do a lot with that. If
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  Speaker 2: we can instill in our child the foundation of a
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  Speaker 2: sense of belonging, I'll bet you that would take down
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  Speaker 2: the percentage quite a bit of youth.
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  Speaker 5: Offenders, most definitely. And that is the first action that
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  Speaker 5: we can take as a community. Let's start funding and
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  Speaker 5: start supporting our local boys, but our local wife, our
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  Speaker 5: local organizations through our churches, and youth programs through various
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  Speaker 5: organizations in our neighborhoods. Let's start getting with them. Let's
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  Speaker 5: start getting with our baseball, football, basketball programs, and strengthening
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  Speaker 5: them so they can be an outlet for our kids.
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  Speaker 5: So when they are struggling, when they are having problems
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  Speaker 5: at home, when they are having behavioral issues, our bullying issues,
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  Speaker 5: are being bullied. We can stop the progress of crime
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  Speaker 5: and criminal behavior in our youth at the bottom of
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  Speaker 5: the forefront. And that's before it happens. If we just
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  Speaker 5: concentrate more on our local organizations and not rely so
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  Speaker 5: much on the police department and our county institutions to
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  Speaker 5: keep the youth that we think are problem Sometimes we
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  Speaker 5: can just reach out to our neighbor, and our neighbor
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  Speaker 5: can spend time with that young person and get them
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  Speaker 5: to go where they need to be and get them
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  Speaker 5: to the organizations where they need to be. We have
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  Speaker 5: to come together as a community and start teaching you
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  Speaker 5: the things and the behavior principles and also the discipline,
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  Speaker 5: not in the positions to where they need someone to
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  Speaker 5: take the jail or introduce them to ours system or
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  Speaker 5: the U system or even the prison. And so that's
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  Speaker 5: an important moment that we need to lean more on.
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  Speaker 5: The Boy's Club. I was actually in the Boy Scouts
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  Speaker 5: in the Club Scouts, and I also went to the
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  Speaker 5: Boys Club and the Boys Club was where I saw
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  Speaker 5: a lot of my first concerts, where we were able
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  Speaker 5: to go to all kinds of different venues all over
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  Speaker 5: the country because the Boy's Club, it may have cost
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  Speaker 5: my mama fifteen twenty dollars a week, but it was
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  Speaker 5: worth it because it kept us out of trouble, It
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  Speaker 5: kept us focused, It kept us in a place to
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  Speaker 5: where we had a sense of well being as young
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  Speaker 5: men and young women. Or with the Girls Club, and
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  Speaker 5: those are things that's really missing these days because people
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  Speaker 5: have been taught to share those organizations because of what
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  Speaker 5: our society norms have been. We're scared someone's going to
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  Speaker 5: harm our kids. We're scared of all these different things.
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  Speaker 5: While the people that have the help force are at
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  Speaker 5: the Boys Club, are at the Girls Club, they are
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  Speaker 5: at the Salvation Army, they are at the YMCA, And
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  Speaker 5: so we have to start or the YWCA, we start
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  Speaker 5: leaning in on those organizations being apart volunteering, doing the
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  Speaker 5: things we have to do, because we have to start
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  Speaker 5: giving our youth that other alternative to a prison pipeline,
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  Speaker 5: and that's actually a pipeline to success in their lives.
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  Speaker 5: And it starts with that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you touched on something too. A lot
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  Speaker 2: of parents have their kids have different sports from any
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  Speaker 2: type of martial arts, baseball, football, basketball, you know, just
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  Speaker 2: different things like that. A lot of a lot of
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  Speaker 2: them play on the tennis teams too. They learn that
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  Speaker 2: at a very young age. So it's not just they're
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  Speaker 2: the count a lot of counties and towns they offer
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  Speaker 2: the different teams and different aspects like that. It's very
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  Speaker 2: difficult for parents to transport their children back and forth
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  Speaker 2: to these events. I know it is, so it really
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  Speaker 2: does take a village. You know, they have a lot
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  Speaker 2: of parents that are available, so you take turns maybe
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  Speaker 2: if you're available on a weekend and they're not, or
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  Speaker 2: whatever the case may be. You work together in unity
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  Speaker 2: for the greater purpose of your child. And that's really
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  Speaker 2: really what it boils down to. From a child, you know,
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  Speaker 2: from knee high to a grasshopper on. It really does
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  Speaker 2: take a village because besides, you know, parental in home
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  Speaker 2: care that's given the outside is even a greater influence
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  Speaker 2: on that child. So we have to work on that
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  Speaker 2: aspect of rearing our children when we're doing so. I
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  Speaker 2: wish it came with a manual.
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  Speaker 5: I know right, if life came with a manually, all
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  Speaker 5: would be better. Uh, And that's the I guess the
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  Speaker 5: next step after that because we have local and community organizations,
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  Speaker 5: our own actions of being in those organizations, relying on
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  Speaker 5: the village to help us out when we're a busy
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  Speaker 5: parents or even if there's some single parents out there,
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  Speaker 5: that's a single mom, a single dad, or a grandparent
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  Speaker 5: that's raising their grandkids, or uncles and amies that's raising
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  Speaker 5: their nieces and nephews. We lean on your community to
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  Speaker 5: help you out. The second phase outside of that is
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  Speaker 5: everyone in the community helping your local city government be
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  Speaker 5: better for you. And that means showing up to the
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  Speaker 5: city council meetings. That means being a part of the budget.
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  Speaker 5: That means being part of those meetings and letting them know, hey,
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  Speaker 5: we need this because we have kids that need this,
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  Speaker 5: helping them to start putting money toward these kids, because
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  Speaker 5: right now, the money is going to the schools not
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  Speaker 5: to do education or provide education. It's going to the
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  Speaker 5: schools to actually secure the schools. And that means that
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  Speaker 5: if they're securing the schools, that means they're going to
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  Speaker 5: get your child out. If your child has a behavior issue.
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  Speaker 5: If your child seems like they're going to have a
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  Speaker 5: behavior issue, they're going to get them out to school
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  Speaker 5: because they're looking for security and not education right now.
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  Speaker 5: And so we have to reverse that trend. We have
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  Speaker 5: to start getting more involved and making them and forcing
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  Speaker 5: them to start funding education again and teaching our kids
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  Speaker 5: abcs instead of prisons one, two threes, And that's kind
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  Speaker 5: of what we need to concentrate on on the next step.
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  Speaker 5: And so that means some of us taking a few
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  Speaker 5: moments out of our time once a month and maybe rotating.
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  Speaker 5: You know, hey, my neighbor on the other side, you
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  Speaker 5: go this week and let everybody know what happens. Next month,
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  Speaker 5: I'll go, and then I'll did everybody know what happened
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  Speaker 5: the next month, and next person go and everybody working
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  Speaker 5: together because we're protecting our kids because we're already grown.
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  Speaker 5: We're grown. I got grand kids, since he got grant kids,
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  Speaker 5: and so at the end of the day, we've already
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  Speaker 5: participated in whatever form and fashion that we're going to
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  Speaker 5: do with society. Now we're trying to protect our grandkids
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  Speaker 5: to be able to go and not worry about the
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  Speaker 5: prison pipeline. We did have some of our presidents that
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  Speaker 5: stepped up and did a great job of cortelion different
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  Speaker 5: things that have to do with disparities and prison sentences
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  Speaker 5: and charges, and with that, our populations have gone down.
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  Speaker 5: I know, here in the state of Texas in the
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  Speaker 5: month of March, we were only like maybe one hundred
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  Speaker 5: and thirty some thousand people that were actually locked up
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  Speaker 5: in this state. And that's a good thing, even though
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  Speaker 5: it's a lot of folks, but that's still a good
• 21:52
  Speaker 5: thing because that's down a whole lot from what we
• 21:54
  Speaker 5: normally would have in our prison system. So that means
• 21:58
  Speaker 5: that a lot of the things that they did it worked.
• 22:01
  Speaker 5: A lot of the programs that they did so people
• 22:03
  Speaker 5: would repeat as offenders, it worked. And so those are
• 22:07
  Speaker 5: the things that we have to make sure. If you
• 22:09
  Speaker 5: know your neighbor across the street as a fellaing and
• 22:12
  Speaker 5: they're having a hard time find a job, reach out
• 22:15
  Speaker 5: as a neighbor and say, hey, I know a place
• 22:17
  Speaker 5: that's hiring up the street, or my job is hiring.
• 22:20
  Speaker 5: Once you come over there and apply, be a friendly person.
• 22:23
  Speaker 5: You know. Sometimes we just have to do the small
• 22:26
  Speaker 5: things in order to help out the masses. And then
• 22:29
  Speaker 5: that we'll keep that individual employ and moving forward and
• 22:33
  Speaker 5: help them and that way they won't have to worry
• 22:36
  Speaker 5: about having to be put in a position to where
• 22:38
  Speaker 5: they have to make a choice of doing good or bad.
• 22:41
  Speaker 5: And so some of those steps are things that we
• 22:43
  Speaker 5: can start taking of just really paying attention. I know,
• 22:46
  Speaker 5: sometimes we can get in our own feelings and our
• 22:49
  Speaker 5: own beliefs and we see someone with a fellony or
• 22:51
  Speaker 5: we know they've been to prison, and we can clutch
• 22:54
  Speaker 5: our purse and lock our doors and all the things
• 22:56
  Speaker 5: that we do, but sometimes give them grace. Let you
• 23:01
  Speaker 5: be in the same position, and let's start reaching out
• 23:03
  Speaker 5: to them and helping them, help support them so that
• 23:06
  Speaker 5: way they can find their way, because once they find
• 23:09
  Speaker 5: their way, they'll be the main person to help you
• 23:12
  Speaker 5: and to help someone else. And that's the second step
• 23:15
  Speaker 5: of the prison pipeline. How to destroy that pipeline is
• 23:20
  Speaker 5: to start acknowledging that we have a society that probably
• 23:24
  Speaker 5: over half of the people have been in the judicial
• 23:26
  Speaker 5: system some way, shape form or fashion. Let's support those
• 23:30
  Speaker 5: people and let's be able to get them to move
• 23:33
  Speaker 5: forward in life so they won't have to go backwards.
• 23:36
  Speaker 5: And that'll keep those numbers going down and give youth
• 23:39
  Speaker 5: an example of what it looks like to not even
• 23:42
  Speaker 5: have to worry about that moment. But if they do
• 23:45
  Speaker 5: find themselves there, there is help to be able to
• 23:48
  Speaker 5: avoid that or get out of it and do better.
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: Oh for sure, there are programs right now I know,
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: and not the county that I'm in, but the county
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: that's just right next to me too. They have if
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: you take different classes almost like continuing education, which is
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: really helpful. They teach a lot of de escalation courses.
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: They teach communication courses, and it's really helpful. You know,
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: a lot of times people won't talk if they're around
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: an authority figure. So if you have a young adult
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: in their twenties that is willing to take these courses,
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: that wants to learn and become, if you will, a facilitator,
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: they have these courses where that they come together almost
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: very like an AA meeting, if you will. You know,
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: whether it's a substance abuse or you or you have
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: people who have been in je Jay we call JIV
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: here juvenile Hall. They've been in some sort of have
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: some sort of infraction or whatever, or family issues just
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: really anything and they come together and they have these
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: group meetings and they're able to talk about their concerns
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: and and it's really difficult when they're in the same
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: environment and their home and their friends and the family
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: and the town and everything to not repeat the same thing.
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: And it just it's it recycles. And so dealing with
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: the youth with these programs, it doesn't always have to
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: be a mediator or a psychologist that actually facilitates these
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: They have the group, the group classes that they that
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: they have and it's really awesome to see that these
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: kids get into it. I work with them, so it's
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: just kind of great to see their them bloom. They're
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: so happy to do so, you know why because they
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: have a sense of belonging. Yeah, you know. And and
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: the thing is is that if you can catch them
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: young and I hate, I hate to say that, that
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: just sounds so horrible, catch a young adult young, but
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: if you if you nip it off before it becomes
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: a consistent thing, so you eliminate that receivitism of them
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: going back as an adult. Uh, they won't be part
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: of the statistics on that. So his his his WiFi,
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: Are you back there?
• 26:29
  Speaker 5: We go? Yeah, that's the key the uh we have
• 26:33
  Speaker 5: to uh work hard to start young with our kids
• 26:40
  Speaker 5: of teaching me and those values, uh helping them out
• 26:44
  Speaker 5: and when they get into a moment to where they're
• 26:47
  Speaker 5: they're like, oh wow, life is hard. It's this this
• 26:50
  Speaker 5: that to be able to guide them through. At young agents,
• 26:53
  Speaker 5: I'm not talking about teenage agents. I'm talking about young
• 26:56
  Speaker 5: elementary agents. Catching them young just like you said, so
• 27:00
  Speaker 5: we can move forward and help them out so they
• 27:03
  Speaker 5: can make good decisions when they get a little older.
• 27:06
  Speaker 5: And it starts, and that leads us to the third
• 27:11
  Speaker 5: part of this moment is leaning out toward our faith
• 27:15
  Speaker 5: based organizations and our faith based community. I would speak
• 27:20
  Speaker 5: to them directly and say, I need you guys to
• 27:23
  Speaker 5: do better. I need you to do better at establishing
• 27:27
  Speaker 5: programs to reach out back to those individuals that happen
• 27:32
  Speaker 5: to find themselves in trouble, and not only those people,
• 27:36
  Speaker 5: but also creating the programs again that our youth can
• 27:40
  Speaker 5: actually go to the churches. You know, they used to
• 27:42
  Speaker 5: have vacation Bible schools that any kid could come to,
• 27:46
  Speaker 5: and they used to have summer camps. They used to
• 27:48
  Speaker 5: have all kinds of things that kids in the neighborhood
• 27:50
  Speaker 5: can just go to these faith based organizations in regardless
• 27:54
  Speaker 5: of your faith, you can go in and have a
• 27:56
  Speaker 5: safe place to learn and to play and to do
• 28:00
  Speaker 5: all the things you need to do while your idle
• 28:02
  Speaker 5: mind is just out there in life. And so we
• 28:05
  Speaker 5: need to get back to that moment. I know that
• 28:07
  Speaker 5: there's been a contentious moment because of all of the
• 28:11
  Speaker 5: things that we face in this society, but we need
• 28:15
  Speaker 5: to those of good will to take need to start
• 28:18
  Speaker 5: correcting those things first and then providing those safe places
• 28:22
  Speaker 5: through our faith based organizations to be able to help
• 28:26
  Speaker 5: our youth and to help guide them. To help finance
• 28:29
  Speaker 5: some of these things that these counties and cities that
• 28:31
  Speaker 5: can't really afford it. Our faith they organizations can. They
• 28:35
  Speaker 5: have plenty of money, and so they could get together
• 28:38
  Speaker 5: and start giving grants out to the local municipality to
• 28:42
  Speaker 5: help them with after school programs, to help them with
• 28:45
  Speaker 5: different things to help with youth. And for those families
• 28:47
  Speaker 5: that are struggling with an adolescent that maybe you have
• 28:53
  Speaker 5: some type of issues, they can then step in and
• 28:56
  Speaker 5: help them and keep them out of the system and
• 28:58
  Speaker 5: help them with a diversion program instead. And those are
• 29:01
  Speaker 5: things that we need to really concentrate on. Go ahead system.
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: No, just really along the same lines. I know in
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: my in where I live, we have doctors for detriment,
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: and so you have some of those kids who don't
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: want to move forward and actually be they just stay
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: billy badass. You know, they've been programmed to just not
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: give into anything because it's a it's a defense mechanism.
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: So you have doctors that are belong to this, and
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: so we go in there and counsel and we have
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: to actually deconstruct that behavior. That's a that's a definite thing.
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: But you know the thing is those are specialists that
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: do that. So I mean, if there's any doctors that
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: are listening, please look into it into your you know,
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: into your own area and see if you can help
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: out that way as well. So I just wanted to
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: kind of throw that out there that it's not just
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: it's not just the counties. If you actually specialize and
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: you've gone to school and you want to help out,
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: really all help is great help. So please don't think
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: that you're not going to matter.
• 30:05
  Speaker 5: You're definitely right about it. And just to top off
• 30:09
  Speaker 5: this topic today, because we don't want to be labor
• 30:12
  Speaker 5: too long. Today, we are really stating today that the
• 30:19
  Speaker 5: prison pipeline is a problem in our society. We all
• 30:22
  Speaker 5: know it, we've all seen it, we've understand it. Some
• 30:25
  Speaker 5: of us have been through it and it worked in
• 30:27
  Speaker 5: it have family members been through it, the system itself.
• 30:31
  Speaker 5: But we understand now that we need to start doing
• 30:34
  Speaker 5: things different for our next generation. And so we have
• 30:39
  Speaker 5: to start paying attention to these things that we're talking
• 30:41
  Speaker 5: about today, just small things of being able to just
• 30:44
  Speaker 5: change our own local communities so it can spread forward
• 30:48
  Speaker 5: throughout this country and we can leave our youth better
• 30:54
  Speaker 5: off than what we were not seeing the things that
• 30:57
  Speaker 5: we've had to see. They can actually go out and
• 31:00
  Speaker 5: really be successful, and the ones that need help, they
• 31:03
  Speaker 5: can get the help and then they can turn around
• 31:05
  Speaker 5: and be successful. So that's the reason for this today
• 31:08
  Speaker 5: is to really speak to that without getting to all
• 31:12
  Speaker 5: the technical moments of it today, and we just really
• 31:16
  Speaker 5: encourage everyone to reach out to those in your community,
• 31:20
  Speaker 5: your friends, your coworkers, your neighbors, your pastors, your elders,
• 31:26
  Speaker 5: and sometimes your local city municipality. Reach out to them
• 31:30
  Speaker 5: and let them know that, hey, we want to find
• 31:34
  Speaker 5: something that we can do to continue to build our community,
• 31:38
  Speaker 5: but let's do it in a different way. So we
• 31:40
  Speaker 5: won't let you see the judge, we won't let them
• 31:44
  Speaker 5: see the police officer, we won't let them see the
• 31:47
  Speaker 5: local prison system. And then we can then turn the
• 31:51
  Speaker 5: tide for our officers as well, to have a comfortability
• 31:54
  Speaker 5: knowing that our kids are going to not treat them
• 31:57
  Speaker 5: a certain way, and then everybody can live better society,
• 32:01
  Speaker 5: uh than what we have right there.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, true that there. The children are are our future, guys,
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: And I know that you hear that all the time,
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: but I really just kind of want to encourage you
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: to just you know, ponder that for a minute. You know,
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: take take that and if you will sit with it.
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: The children are our future. We need to invest in
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: our children. This whether they're adults or even you know,
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: juvenile offenders. That just continues on it. It's too wide
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: and spread and it really just needs to stop. It's
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: difficult this day and age. I get it. There's you know,
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: two income families that have to work. Sometimes people work
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: multiple jobs just to just to survive, you know, just
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: to pay the bare minimum bills. So I know it's hard,
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: and I know a lot of children end up raising
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: themselves a lot because you know you have no choice.
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: So that's even more reason to reach out to your neighbors,
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: reach out to those those centers that are available, any
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: and all resources out there available to give you different
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: avenues to provide that support for your child because you're
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: not there. And here's the thing is is when you
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: are able to be there, guess what they're going to
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: rally around you as well. So it's a camaraderie not
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: only for adults, but for your children in participation of that.
• 33:39
  Speaker 5: You're definitely right. And with that, Doctor Sissy, I think
• 33:43
  Speaker 5: we're going to end this session today. It was a
• 33:47
  Speaker 5: great discussion being able to talk about the prison pipeline,
• 33:51
  Speaker 5: being able to introduce this topic to the masses and
• 33:56
  Speaker 5: hopefully we help someone to understand a little bit about
• 33:59
  Speaker 5: the prison the pipeline, but also some actions that you
• 34:03
  Speaker 5: can take to start to cultail that prison pipeline. This
• 34:06
  Speaker 5: was fun and I definitely thank you, doctor Cissy. We
• 34:10
  Speaker 5: thank the crew, Angela fortor Miss Angela, doctor Angela, all
• 34:16
  Speaker 5: of that because she's all of that moment. We definitely
• 34:19
  Speaker 5: appreciate her for this moment. And there's anything you want
• 34:22
  Speaker 5: to say before we leave, Doctor Cissy.
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: Have a blessed Thanksgiving.
• 34:27
  Speaker 5: Guys most definitely have a blessed Thanksgiving. And from myself,
• 34:32
  Speaker 5: Dwayne and my family and doctor Sissy, we thank you
• 34:35
  Speaker 5: for listening in and you guys have a blessed day.
• 34:38
  Speaker 5: Bye bye