Latest / Corie Sheppard Podcast / Episode 202 | Red State

Transcript

Episode 202 | Red State · Corie Sheppard Podcast

• 0:07
  Speaker 1: Tanya Cushman.
• 0:08
  Speaker 1: Reviewer's Name.
• 0:08
  Speaker 1: Reviewer's Name.
• 0:09
  Speaker 1: Good evening, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the tent at Tropical Paradise.
• 0:26
  Speaker 1: You know we have a changing situation in the United States today.
• 0:32
  Speaker 1: For those of you who were born here, you're safe.
• 0:37
  Speaker 1: For anybody else who come, mr Trump has a special task force that is going around looking for mistakes and lies and so on.
• 0:46
  Speaker 1: So if you know your stuff ain't good, watch out.
• 0:50
  Speaker 1: Another thing you're looking at is all those who are on public assistance, and if you're on public assistance, watch out, we have the eye on you.
• 1:01
  Speaker 1: Another thing you're looking for is those who are catching their ass.
• 1:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:07
  Speaker 1: And this is where I come in.
• 1:10
  Speaker 3: The name of this song is called catch ass let's go tell you what to tell you about it yes, yes, yes, dumb, right to knife, catching tail, catching hell and royal men is all them.
• 1:45
  Speaker 1: Stage is so fast.
• 1:47
  Speaker 1: They've now reached to that special condition that you call catch us.
• 1:53
  Speaker 1: But I know I have a country that I could fall back on.
• 1:58
  Speaker 1: And before I reach to that special condition, papa, when you miss me, so I reach to that special condition, papa, when you miss me, come on, cause I ain't opening the doors by McDonald's To beg people when they pass.
• 2:10
  Speaker 1: I ain't going wrong in the gas station Begging people to pump the gas.
• 2:16
  Speaker 1: I ain't walking wrong with a cat Collecting old metal and scrap iron, and I ain't going down in people garbage to pull out empty bottles and cans.
• 2:28
  Speaker 1: I'd rather go back home to my country before things get so bad.
• 2:33
  Speaker 1: You see, catch ass for catch ass, I'd rather catch my ass down in Trinidad.
• 2:39
  Speaker 1: Catch ass for catch ass, I'd rather catch my ass down in Trinidad.
• 2:47
  Speaker 3: Careful of your wish for it, dr Whitty.
• 2:48
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, ha.
• 2:57
  Speaker 1: You remember how we were happy and glad when we got that visa to come.
• 3:02
  Speaker 1: We arrived with a suitcase of hopes and, of course, a bottle of rum.
• 3:08
  Speaker 1: Well, some rose high, some got by and some others really had a hard fall.
• 3:14
  Speaker 1: But rather than pack up and go back home, they prefer to stay here and crawl.
• 3:20
  Speaker 1: But I will sing country road.
• 3:23
  Speaker 1: Take me back to where I come from.
• 3:25
  Speaker 1: I'll be going back home with my suitcase and of course I carrying back the rum, cause I ain't going down by Fulton to say he gave me something big when I passed my pass.
• 3:37
  Speaker 1: I ain't running up on your car With no squeegee to clean your glass.
• 3:43
  Speaker 1: I ain't putting on army clothes to play as a disabled war veteran and I am bobbing and weaving in traffic with two poland spring.
• 3:54
  Speaker 1: In the end, I rather go back home to my country before things get so bad.
• 4:00
  Speaker 1: You see, catch us.
• 4:02
  Speaker 1: It's so bad.
• 4:02
  Speaker 1: You see, Catch ass for catch ass, I'd rather catch my ass down in Trinidad.
• 4:06
  Speaker 1: Catch ass for catch ass, I'd rather catch my ass down in Trinidad.
• 4:12
  Speaker 3: This is to send for all your foreign friends right who talk about backing Kamala but they vote for Trump.
• 4:17
  Speaker 3: Send it to the Puerto Ricans.
• 4:24
  Speaker 1: Now, trini, people are so happy-go-lucky.
• 4:27
  Speaker 1: They just make catch-ass look like lime and there's one kind of clothes they wear all year.
• 4:32
  Speaker 1: There's no worries about wintertime.
• 4:35
  Speaker 1: Some get real creative when they see the tide getting low, Like some of them would play Obi-wan and some would run the singalipso.
• 4:46
  Speaker 1: Even a vagrant tell me every year he's sure to pick up a white woman because he will come in down juve morning and fit in a mud mask van.
• 4:58
  Speaker 1: So me staying here to shoplift, and then I had to peddle the things at tea.
• 5:03
  Speaker 1: I too old to go and touch shopping bag by key food and western beef and to sell cigarettes loosely.
• 5:12
  Speaker 1: The police feel that is too extreme.
• 5:15
  Speaker 1: And me impigin' you to buy chocolate to help out my basketball team.
• 5:21
  Speaker 1: I rather go back home to my country before things get so bad.
• 5:27
  Speaker 1: You see, catch ass for catch ass, I'd rather catch my ass down in Trinidad.
• 5:32
  Speaker 1: Catch ass for catch ass, I'd rather catch my ass down in Trinidad.
• 5:39
  Speaker 1: Oli had to practice back Oli Trinidad accent Oli Oli would say fly and why he had to get back here, why Now, some of us are living just above catch-ass level in this country today, and things could get progressively worse if Republicans have their way.
• 6:01
  Speaker 1: With that Republican in the White House, we don't know what we have in store.
• 6:07
  Speaker 1: There's more tax breaks for the wealthy and not even coffee breaks for the poor.
• 6:16
  Speaker 1: So if you're living now at that level, struggling to make a dollar stretch, now that Donald Trump in power, we're going gonna have plenty more ass to catch.
• 6:25
  Speaker 1: So me a staying here to wear one pants until it start shining like silk.
• 6:30
  Speaker 1: Me a eating me cereal with a fork just to recycle milk.
• 6:36
  Speaker 1: And me a borrowing people money and then I have to run and play hide and seek and when man, depending on a man, that does make man wash panty and sweep.
• 6:48
  Speaker 1: So I rather go back home to my country Before things get so bad.
• 6:54
  Speaker 1: You see, catch us, oh, catch us.
• 6:56
  Speaker 1: I'd rather catch me ass down in.
• 6:58
  Speaker 1: Trinidad.
• 7:00
  Speaker 5: Father catch us, oh, catch us, I'd rather catch me ass stung in Trinidad.
• 7:05
  Speaker 3: Welcome to episode 202 of the Corey Shepard Podcast.
• 7:09
  Speaker 3: Congratulations to all the Republicans.
• 7:11
  Speaker 3: I feel like we're coming here to talk bad about Trump.
• 7:14
  Speaker 3: Congratulations to Donald Trump.
• 7:16
  Speaker 3: Congratulations to everybody who's in office.
• 7:19
  Speaker 3: I feel like I'm going to mash up my little US situation.
• 7:21
  Speaker 3: I have to travel soon and I have no US whatsoever.
• 7:25
  Speaker 3: I doing what I had to do to get by.
• 7:27
  Speaker 3: Yes, salute to Donald Trump.
• 7:28
  Speaker 3: Salute to what the vice president name, whatever your name, salute to him.
• 7:32
  Speaker 3: Trump.
• 7:33
  Speaker 3: Done make about Trump being in power.
• 7:34
  Speaker 3: Man had a swaying and them kind of thing next year and that man done make about two, three declaration no more, no more labeling of thing.
• 7:42
  Speaker 3: No, no more, no more labeling of things.
• 7:43
  Speaker 3: No more he him, no more, she, she him.
• 7:45
  Speaker 3: Donald Trump.
• 7:45
  Speaker 3: I think Trinidadians are a lot more Republican than they might be willing to admit it, but right now we are to fend for weself.
• 7:52
  Speaker 3: We are to fend for weself.
• 7:53
  Speaker 3: All the early talk about Kamala and Kamala and HBCU and black woman, prime minister, what do they call it President?
• 7:59
  Speaker 3: No, no, no.
• 8:01
  Speaker 3: Trump win Convincingly.
• 8:03
  Speaker 3: The PNMs would have been proud.
• 8:05
  Speaker 3: The whole map was red.
• 8:07
  Speaker 3: The whole map red PNMs.
• 8:08
  Speaker 3: There was no quandary.
• 8:10
  Speaker 3: They didn't know if they feel happy or sad or indifferent.
• 8:12
  Speaker 3: But your boy back in power.
• 8:14
  Speaker 3: So just a little song Live, located to all the people who are out there and all the watching All the money we all send home you know the money we send home as a little nest egg or to build up the house or something.
• 8:26
  Speaker 3: They spend your nest egg.
• 8:27
  Speaker 3: We don't have no US down here.
• 8:28
  Speaker 3: I just want you to know you're not coming back to mud the money you send to build your house.
• 8:33
  Speaker 3: They never get past the foundation.
• 8:34
  Speaker 3: I just want you to know your cousin and your uncle and them, they never build nowhere, it's only steel up in here.
• 8:40
  Speaker 3: Nothing can happen there.
• 8:49
  Speaker 3: Here nothing can happen is another person house they're sending a picture of.
• 8:50
  Speaker 3: So don't follow dr witty.
• 8:51
  Speaker 3: You know right.
• 8:51
  Speaker 3: But because all they talk about in his song happening right here in trinidad right now.
• 8:53
  Speaker 3: We say people wiping glass by, stop, like that happening right here.
• 8:54
  Speaker 3: People dodging traffic and her water selling.
• 8:55
  Speaker 3: That happening right here.
• 8:56
  Speaker 3: So, dr witty, pick your battle wisely.
• 8:59
  Speaker 3: Pick your battle wisely and as much as all you want to come home right now, or shall it mightn't be up to you whether you're going to get to come home or not.
• 9:06
  Speaker 3: He might come home by force.
• 9:10
  Speaker 3: He might come home by the task force, according to Dr Witty.
• 9:12
  Speaker 3: Try Ole best and hold it down over there, because we're going to need some barrel and thing right.
• 9:22
  Speaker 4: We're going to need a few barrels.
• 9:23
  Speaker 4: We're going to need some Tulsa.
• 9:23
  Speaker 4: We're going to need a few barrels.
• 9:24
  Speaker 4: We're going to need some tolls.
• 9:25
  Speaker 4: We're going to need some Nikes.
• 10:19
  Speaker 4: Thank you, bye.
• 10:20
  Speaker 4: Watch me girl, my girl down the street, watch me girl down Dolly Street, watch me girl down Princess Street With gold round neck and gold front teeth, expensive boat, get your fun feet.
• 10:32
  Speaker 4: I saw me get bin on the Obiaman.
• 10:33
  Speaker 4: Well, see, scrape up.
• 10:35
  Speaker 4: I want puns to get done.
• 10:36
  Speaker 4: Don't scrape up a big gold chain.
• 10:39
  Speaker 4: Well, you get, scrape up A good class boot.
• 10:41
  Speaker 4: Well, you get, scrape up A nice, nice bally.
• 10:44
  Speaker 4: Well, you get, scrape up.
• 10:45
  Speaker 4: I see the Obiaman me come for, mash it up.
• 10:48
  Speaker 4: I Back to news.
• 10:49
  Speaker 4: Back to news.
• 11:07
  Speaker 3: We had a whole Forex episode last week.
• 11:08
  Speaker 3: I really enjoyed it.
• 11:09
  Speaker 3: As predicted last week, as predicted last week, more banks make more announcements.
• 11:16
  Speaker 3: I see people talking about the spike in the rate of US to TT today Expected.
• 11:20
  Speaker 3: As a matter of fact, as I was saying on Facebook, I think that the banks and the bankers association probably come together and plan that they're all going to cut credit card and debit card spending at the same time.
• 11:33
  Speaker 3: It makes sense they had to come together and do it one time because if each bank do that every single month, it just creates a bigger panic and a bigger run.
• 11:41
  Speaker 3: More people will call the bank and ask for us or try to take out the us account and hold it in cash if the banks keep announcing these kind of things.
• 11:48
  Speaker 3: Banking is based on the perception of security.
• 11:53
  Speaker 3: Once that perception of security or the perception that your money not secure gone, the banking system the whole.
• 11:58
  Speaker 3: But let me talk about positive things first.
• 12:00
  Speaker 3: Now let me start with something positive.
• 12:01
  Speaker 3: Last week was heavy right.
• 12:02
  Speaker 3: I saw something that said trinidad and tobago.
• 12:05
  Speaker 3: Much to my surprise might be surprised to dr.
• 12:07
  Speaker 3: With you too trinidad and tobago is one of the best countries to visit in 2025 according to lonely planet.
• 12:13
  Speaker 3: Who would have thought?
• 12:14
  Speaker 3: Who would have thought?
• 12:15
  Speaker 3: According to brent piniero piniero, you from here, trinidad and tobago has been named one of the 10 most 10 must visit countries on lonely lonely planets best in travel 2025 list.
• 12:26
  Speaker 3: The international publication listed tnt among, alongside the likes of armenia.
• 12:31
  Speaker 3: I feel only thing telling me something about.
• 12:34
  Speaker 3: If you open it, armenia, you ain't telling me something about this, right?
• 12:36
  Speaker 3: Okay?
• 12:37
  Speaker 3: The international publication list uh listed tnt and alongside the likes of armenia, paragu, fiji and Cameroon as countries that travelers should visit for their tropicality-unique attributes and experiences, including food, history, architecture, art, vibrant local culture and natural beauty, along with their ongoing commitment to sustainability, community and diversity.
• 13:03
  Speaker 3: Tnt's food scene, in particular, was highlighted by Lonely Planet with their ongoing commitment to sustainability, community and diversity.
• 13:07
  Speaker 3: Which one's that?
• 13:08
  Speaker 3: Tnt's food scene, in particular, was highlighted by Lonely Planet, calling it a panoply of flavors, with African, east, indian, french, spanish, english, dutch, chinese and indigenous influencers.
• 13:20
  Speaker 3: I wonder if they're talking about these Chinese shops in St James.
• 13:21
  Speaker 3: I wonder if it's them kind of Chinese.
• 13:22
  Speaker 3: Anyway, the Best in travel 2025 list is broken up.
• 13:25
  Speaker 3: The list is broken up into three categories.
• 13:29
  Speaker 3: Brent, you had to write properly.
• 13:31
  Speaker 3: I don't care Read.
• 13:32
  Speaker 3: You had to write properly.
• 13:33
  Speaker 3: The best in travel 2025 is broken up into three categories, of which 10 destinations are featured per category Countries, regions and cities.
• 13:41
  Speaker 3: Trinidad and Tobago is the only Caribbean country featured on the entire list.
• 13:45
  Speaker 3: Lonely planet says the system.
• 13:47
  Speaker 3: Lonely planet says the list was curated by its team of international experts, including editors, writers and other contributors from around the world.
• 13:57
  Speaker 3: One such contributor to neil clark how, I feel like I know the name.
• 14:02
  Speaker 3: To neil clark.
• 14:02
  Speaker 3: To neil clark is a local, uh instagram body.
• 14:04
  Speaker 3: I mean influencer.
• 14:05
  Speaker 3: To neil clark I know the name tennille clark.
• 14:05
  Speaker 3: To tennille clark is a local, uh instagram body.
• 14:05
  Speaker 3: I mean influencer, tennille clark.
• 14:06
  Speaker 3: I know the name, tennille clark, a lonely planet guidebook author, award-winning publicist and trinidad uh trim big onion told guardian media she nominated tnt for the best in travel 2025 list well over a year ago.
• 14:20
  Speaker 3: While she says it was an easy decision to put forward destination TNT for consideration yeah, I know what you mean.
• 14:27
  Speaker 3: To see the judges agree with her take on TNT's special lessons, she says is a great honor.
• 14:33
  Speaker 3: Clark is hoping it will encourage people from all over the world to visit TNT, whether you are a carnival chaser or nature lover or foodie explorer, or sun, sea and sand seeker.
• 14:43
  Speaker 3: We have the best of everything the world has to see.
• 14:45
  Speaker 3: Nitya Chambers, lonely Planet's SVP Senior Vice President, I suppose, of content and executive editor, says Best in Travel 2025 is the latest edition of Lonely Planet's annual love letter to the world.
• 15:00
  Speaker 3: While we are mindful of our responsibilities and impact as travelers, we are proud of the destinations, journeys and experiences featured here, and we are excited to share the local expertise and insights at the heart of these recommendations.
• 15:15
  Speaker 3: As a small country, you have to celebrate these things, right.
• 15:18
  Speaker 3: You have to celebrate these things because it's so fitting the way Dr Witty put his song on Great, great, great calypso, right.
• 15:27
  Speaker 3: I remember the first time I heard a calypso and I want you to think about this, right, dr Witty, was that performance is from around the time Trump was elected the first time.
• 15:38
  Speaker 3: That wasn't even recently, but you see how relevant it is.
• 15:41
  Speaker 3: Trump is on the same vibe.
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: That he was on before is more or less what he went on, and you know I saw some things in the lead up to that.
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: Give me about 15 minutes Let me talk about them Yankees and them now, before I get back to how nice Trinidad is and so on right.
• 15:56
  Speaker 3: In the lead up to that election, I was talking to some partners and I was telling them I'm just looking at it from a pure marketing standpoint.
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: I just looking at it from a pure marketing standpoint.
• 16:05
  Speaker 3: I feel as if the Republicans figure out how to do a better job with marketing than the Democrats had done.
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: I'm not sure when I, when I listened to the policies, I mean forget, even forget policies.
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: Right, if I had to choose between these two people, it easier for me to choose somebody like Kamala, probably because she looked like me and she closer to me.
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: You know, I mean, we trust people we're more familiar with and we we might have distrust for more people.
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: That's tribal, right, it's natural and it should be talked about more.
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: We shouldn't, we shouldn't hide to talk about these things because sometimes, when we bury our head in the sand, as if we're supposed to be impartial and if we have no biases, there's no such thing as somebody who operates completely objectively and without biases.
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: Your bias is inherent and most of your bias is unknown.
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: It would be good if you, if you bring your biases to the surface, then you get more conscious of it and you know it more.
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: I was reading a book by from gladwell.
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: Malcolm gladwell called talking to strangers one of the best books I read in a long time and it shift the way I view people.
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: Like, for instance, you talk about job interviews as an example and he was talking about the fact that with job interviews we tend to we tend to be interviewing, not looking for the skill or or what is needed to do the job, but we're more so looking for somebody who we could hang out with, or somebody who we could date, somebody who we like, then somebody who attractive to us maybe not physically attractive, but the personality cool or the song, like that.
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: You know the people who are more like us.
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: So his point was if you do, if you do your interviews and you figure out a way to eliminate those biases, if you're conscious of the fact fact that you're more likely to hire a woman over a man, or you're more likely to hire a black person over a white person what you should do is probably try to find a process to interview people without seeing them, so you get the best person to do the job rather than the best person to come and line with you, and then you're frustrated when the person come on your job.
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: It's also important.
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: An important factor is also that you eliminate some people from the job market completely because we use things that are not consequential for the job at hand, like how firm the handshake was and how much they look in the eye.
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: Those are things that they teach me.
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: My father teach me that as a child.
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: Make sure you shake people's hands firm, hold people's hands firm and look them in the eye, and because of that I might tend to look at somebody who shakes my hand.
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: When you shake my hand soft, you know it's not a woman, right, but a man.
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: In particular, when you shake my hand soft, it has some people who, when you offer your hand to shake to them, them is just put their hand in your hand.
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: They don't hold it, they don't squeeze it, they just put a hand.
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: It's just been limp in your hand.
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: Let me put it like this my opinion of you is not the best at that point in time.
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: It's not the greatest and that is not.
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: That don't mean you can't be a good accountant or you can't be a good accountant or you can't be a good hr person or a good ceo or any of those things it is.
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: It's inconsequential when you, when you think about it and, uh, it does eliminate some people from the job market completely.
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: Those metrics and those types of measures, uh, because, for instance, when they talk about neurodivergence, people who think differently, and so on, they're not going to look you in the eye in the same way.
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: Eye contact don't mean the same thing to them, but that might mean they might be great at the job that they have at hand.
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: So, getting back to kamala now, kamala familiar to me and maybe that's why I vote, but I think for me again, I vote on very, very frivolous things.
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: I I vote for frivolous things.
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: I'm not the best person to take advice on who to vote for, but one of the things that I do feel like leaders should be is, uh, inspiring.
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: They should, they should inspire something in us, something to look forward to.
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: Because you see just how the banking system is based on confidence.
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: I will I'll say capitalism and all its systems.
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: It's just based on the perception of confidence.
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: I wake up and I talk about this all the time.
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: You don't spend money based on the money that you have.
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: You spend the money based on the money that you expect to have, if you expect that money is flowing well and you're going to get a bunch of money and month and you will get paid and mid month you will get a little bonus and you spend based on that and you plan out your vacations and all the different things that you had to do based on what you expect to earn.
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: If there's some reason, let's say tomorrow god forbid, knock on something right, if tomorrow your job threatened and you realize, boy, listen, next month I could be out the door, this month here you will spend less money because you anticipate that you're going to earn less money in the future.
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: So you're, you're gonna hold back, you will hold back, you go tighten the reins a little bit until you, until you get through further.
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: All is going somewhere.
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: But when I look at the ability to inspire between kamala and trump, one of my fears was that kamala wasn't very inspiring to me personally.
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: She I would.
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: I would probably pick her because she more measured, I think.
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: I think trump, I've documented, I think, this man's senile.
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: Wait, I can't say this, no more.
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: Sorry, I'm gonna cut that part out.
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: I think trump is a great leader.
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: I think I forget, I forget where this happening.
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: Yes, I have, I have his, I think, the stamp in a couple weeks and all he's gonna set me up.
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: But you know he she more measured and you know she, she seemed to be somebody who more you know she more measured and you know she seemed to be somebody who more hinged.
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: You know I mean who more together, who more sane and uh.
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: But I don't know if they do the best job putting her together.
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: And I saw when trump went on joe rogan show being the biggest podcast and maybe one of the biggest.
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: You know nbc and fox and them people still have more numbers than the podcasters and so on.
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: But I think the podcasters have more believability or more credibility.
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: I don't know if that's fair or that's reasonable, but that's what it is.
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: People believe Joe Rogan.
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: So Trump went on Joe Rogan's show.
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: He went on a little youth man named Aiden Ross who was just looking like he happy to have him there Can't ask a single question.
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: This boy is 20 little bit multi-millionaire.
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: He's completely out of touch with anything that happened in america.
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: What he living in is not the real america, but people look up to him of all walks of life, young people in particular, who may not be the people who rush into polls or rush into vote.
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: And when trump seen on that platform like our, our Aiden Ross live stream, he just come across as a cool dude.
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: Just come across like he cool.
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: And then when you look at Kamala, she coming across like she's scripted, like she just been told what to say or she figure out something nice to say and she just say it over and over and over in every speech that she make.
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: When I see Trump send his son to academics academics is another live streamer I think them fellas and them is not a whole lot of substance, you know, and they, I believe, including Joe Rogan they are willing to put their support.
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: Joe Rogan may be a little more he more mature and he more intelligent and worldly and informed than some of these youths, right, but even him, they might be willing to put their support behind the candidate who shows up by them.
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: They're glad the candidate there, they like the person.
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: The same inherent biases that I was talking about before is what will cause somebody like Joe Rogan.
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: When he sees Trump, he sees familiarity, he's closer to seeing his own father or his own grandfather and even when you hear Joe Rogan talk, somebody who I consider to be intelligent.
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: You're hearing him talking about obama or kamala or the democratic side in a way that the things that they say and do are untrustworthy and they have a hole in traditional media and so on, which of course he ever he competes in with them, so of course he wouldn't might not have the kindest things to say about him, but you hear him almost everything that trump say completely believable to joe rogan and when they're not believable, he excused it as a man who vibes and you know sometimes he's over talking.
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: Sometimes you know they just excuse it and it's them little inherent biases that I feel like the democratic party might have missed and they didn't get out at all.
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: I I think that she should have been very early.
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: If she had had 100 days to go on her campaign, which is unfair to her, I think she should have gone and jorged on day one, first day One talk.
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: Just talk for a few hours.
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: You could talk about pretty much anything.
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: Just talk about stuff that you're interested in in life.
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: He could ask you a whole bunch of political questions, but he he unlikely to because he more interested in a cigar and a drink and the vibe of the show than than trying to pin you down to anything, but anyway.
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: But this and this all coming back to trinidad, right, all of a sudden, a cap on man switch.
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: Everybody don't like when I do.
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: Anytime I talk about anything foreign too long, people start to get agitated and aggy.
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: All this is coming back down to trinidad and tobago, right, right, because, just like how Biden, who definitely senile, right, this man is definitely office rockers, completely, I think, when he decided to step aside, which was too late, right, he should have stepped aside two, three years ago.
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: But I guess when you have a man who, when you have a man who beat, who beat trump before and you're still afraid trump, you want to, you want to pay him back, right, even if you had a um weekend at bernie's him you remember weekend at bernie's weekend at bernie's, they had a hole up a dead man, all over the place to get his inheritance even if you had a bernie's him and put him out there, he was willing to do that, right, and I think that, beyond him holding on to the reins of power for too long and not handing it over to kamala, and he gave her a short space of time to really put her campaign together, and so on.
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: I wanted to go back to the first day they announced kamala.
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: Harris Biden was behind on every poll at that point in time.
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: Well behind.
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: He was falling more and more behind as he makes speeches and he fades into black and sayings that debate against Trump.
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: He's just leaving sentences unfinished and mumble off the end of the sentence.
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: He didn't look all the way together.
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: Whatever injection they was giving him to keep him burning, it didn't work.
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: But just remember that when Kamala was announced and so on, the tables turned sharp.
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: Trump was frightened to come to the debate.
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: Well, not frightened, but he wasn't sure about the debate and he had prepared for this one.
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: But he was out there.
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: Kamala now and all them things.
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: They got a big, big bump when she came on and the first debate they had when Trump say they're eating the dogs they're eating the dogs and the cats in Springfield Ohio.
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: It didn't come off the best.
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: She had some momentum, but slowly but surely he started to gain back that momentum and man get shot in the ears or not shot in the ears or whatever man hide in the bush to shoot him.
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: And so when he gave back all the momentum until he didn't just take back power, he take back should I say, absolute power.
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: He take back a lot of power.
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: But one of the lessons to be learned I feel that we could apply here is that the democratic party find themselves in a position where they had a leader who was over the hill past his most useful days and so on, whatever term you want to use.
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: I know this man's life's still in there.
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: I know there's nothing else to do but pass the useful term and they hand it over to somebody else, right?
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: I am not sure that that was the best decision ever, because if you have a political party, it might be beneficial to you to go through the process of an internal election, and sometimes we defend these things for the party that we like.
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: Right, because we like the pnm.
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: So we we feel like if the pnm do this, they're right, and I see plenty of that in the states.
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: I thought our politics was tribal, but we as first will, as it gets.
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: If you want to compare you to the states, yes, but is that the interesting?
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: To just decide unilaterally that you put in a candidate there regardless of what happened and not put her through their own internal election process, which you'll call a primary and all them things right?
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: And I see a similar situation brewing in Trinidad here and it's leading to all types of issues.
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: It's already leading to issues because, as I say a few weeks ago, rumor have it that stuart young is being groomed.
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: So in my parallel to this is stuart, stuart young is camalo and rowley is bernie.
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: I know if rowley rowley is senile, right, but he said the other day he looking to turn and looking to step down, I'm, I'm here, I'm, I'm encouraging him to make that move, I'm saying that's a great move.
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: I also want to see him enjoy his retirement and possibly leave with his head high and his name good.
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: When everybody go and whoever come next and they do, when Seotian go after about five, six years, everybody on both sides of the divide will sing.
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: You know, rawley wasn't so bad, rawley was a man.
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: At least he used to think and he used to lead the other, and then they will find something where, like the Manning and the Pandy, they end up in people's good books.
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: I am wishing that for Dr Keith Rowley, but, as written by Anna Ramdas in the Express, there's deep concern within the People's National Movement that Prime Minister Dr Keith Rowley is paving the way for Energy Minister Stuart Young to be this country's next Prime Minister.
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: Concerned party insiders who contacted the Express spoke under the condition of anonymity.
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: Of course, don't ever forget that you're under the whip.
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: You're under the whip.
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: You can't go and call, name out.
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: Concerned parties insiders who contacted the Express or contacted the Express and spoke under the condition of anonymity, said that there is deep division in the party because members believe that the democratic principles of the PNM must be adhered to and its leader both party leader and prime minister must have the full support of the PNM.
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: Membership Is what they should have said about the Democrats.
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: According to insiders, rowley's tenure as PNM leader does not expire until 2026, but he has communicated the possibility of staying on as leader without moving forward as prime minister.
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: How is that possible?
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: If the PNM wins the next general election.
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: The prime minister would be chosen by the majority of elected PNM MPs, who would write to the president and name their pick.
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: The party's internal election is important as the elected members form part of the party's screening committee that chooses general election candidates.
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: Long-standing PNM members are concerned that because they do not support Young, they could well be throat-bust.
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: They could well be throat-bust and not could well be throat-bust and not selected to defend their constituencies.
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: So the issue here, the deeper issue, is if the man in charge know which is Rowley right and he wants to steer to Youngdale, he could gerrymander and redline his way into getting candidates only Only candidates who go up in elections is people who are in support of his position and who have already indicated that when we win, we put in stuart, young right, which it goes around the democratic process, right.
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: So and people know you had to throw the party line and you're under the whip and all these different types of things that they like to use, basically to say that we have one position and we have one vote as a party and it's known that if you go against what the party wants which is really basically what the leader, and it's known that if you go against what the party wants, which is really basically what the leader wants, it's known that you're going to be um, what was eucalyptus say?
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: Ostracized and you're going to be ousted.
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: You're going to be throat bust, according to anna ramness, or whoever say this anonymously.
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: The tension in the party over young was seen, felt and heard last saturday at the pnm general Council meeting at Balize House.
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: Pnm Executive Member Jennifer Batiste Primer so you remember Jenny X?
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: Well, she was Minister of Labour.
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: She's still Minister of Labour, but she used to be the baddest PSA President of all time.
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: Before what?
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: Pnm Executive Member Jennifer Batiste Primus voted against the decision to ratify the postponement of the party's convention and the internal election and to hold the event at a later date.
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: She raised concern that a release was initially issued announcing the internal elections and convention.
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: She raised concerns that a release was initially issued announcing that the internal elections and convention were cancelled, which was ultra-virus the party's constitution.
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: I assume that means against me, no lawyer.
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: Party sources told Express that a secret ballot was rejected for the vote at the general council meeting and it was pointed out that 140 members who attended only 76 participated in the vote.
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: So, as I said, the PNM General Secretary Foster, directly told Rowley that he has to put the issue of leadership in question with his recent comments in Parliament and emphasised that there can be no uncertainty as to who their leader is.
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: The Express was also told that there is no race strictly between cummings and young for leadership and there are others who have yet to come forward because at present there's no vacancy for leadership until 2026.
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: Other people have other people said to have leadership ambitions include dr amory brown, forrest alraoui and penelope beckles.
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: So PNM have a little heat, pnm have a little sauce, pnm have a little action with it.
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: Pnm Insiders said that some party group members have expressed disappointment over Rowley's continued support of Stuart Young in the aftermath of offensive remarks he made in Parliament against opposition leader Kamala Bisesa.
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: He said she's Zami and so on.
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: Right, she said she's I mean, and so on.
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: Right, she says I mean, and they have a house full of girls, and so on.
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: You know I mean.
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: So the parent, I, I, I could I could I could I, could I go as far as to say that the parent typically it's like you will see little brouhaha's, but it seem as though they are institution where nine out of ten brouhaha don't make it public.
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: Most of the things seem to be handled internally and handled decently enough.
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: Where it don't get to be a, it don't get to be action.
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: Uh, whereas with the unc sometimes you can expect us to come on to action and brouhaha with them and I don't think they have any more issues than the pnm.
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: I just feel like, if unc things has come out a lot like you're always reading about these kind of things like and and and maybe maybe, to say it differently, to maybe be unc in better control of these things.
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: Because when kamala say it's an internal election, it's also the small talk after that and nobody coming to say this and coming to say that might have a little bit of that way go and blow away fast.
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: But genuine concern right, especially after what we just see in the states.
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: Because what we just see in the states was a party who was disorganized in their approach to the election and lose that man with all kind of different convictions.
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: He had january 6th hanging over him for some years in terms of insurrection accusations.
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: I think that, as much as as they did well with the, the digital side of the campaign was strong With the Amongst the Podcast.
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: They went on Nelk Boys, they went on Flagrant Podcast, they went on Joe Rogan.
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: Those are big platforms and they're talking directly to the base on those platforms and they're expanding their base by going on those places because there's somebody most listened to podcast and I think they went on no, I think it was kamala who went and called her daddy and she went on shannon sharp.
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: But even when she went on their place, them places don't have the reach that them other podcasts have, certainly not outside the black community, and they, their hosts, don't have the kind of impact that a Joe Rogan might have.
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: And then there was softball questions.
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: The interview with Shannon was a complete endorsement and just softball questions and I was surprised Maybe I shouldn't have been that Rogan was the same thing.
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: Rogan was helping Trump answer questions and that man is going to argue integrity.
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: But they're helping trump answer question and finishing sentences for him and helping to keep him on track and, you know, sweeping any issues he have under the carpet right in the interview, live as it gets and it is so come.
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: The end result of that whole thing was the whole map was red.
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: My, my prediction is that if they, if some of these things they're talking about here, they don't get together within the next year, at least they have a better head start.
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: They're not doing this 100 days before the election, right, so maybe they will distill the issues enough to come out with some solution that at least the majority in the party who decide to stay will uh, be in one accord, and then they could fight an election.
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: These fellas have a rough election ahead of them.
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: I think, um and I don't want to make this a pnm bashing thing and all again nervous and all again frightened pnmites, keep calm.
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: I think that any party who in power right now in Trinidad and Tobago will have a hard time winning this next election.
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: The economy is so great, things are rough, crime high.
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: Everything that happened now and I'm not sure if any other parties would have been much different Anybody who in power now would have a hard time winning the next election.
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: But there's going to be even more of a difficult time if they don't get some of these things together.
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: So, for instance, when you hear Stuart Young, who let me go back to marketing.
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: I feel it was going for Stuart Young.
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: They are squeaky clean and good family and all his rights.
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: He's got back up.
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: Every time he falls seven times rise, seven times fall, kind of thing.
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: But that statement in parliament the other day show show me at least as a neutral person in politics, and I want to.
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: I want to say more on the absent side, and neutral because I care from the standpoint of what we talk about on the podcast every week or what we might debate from time to time, but I don't know if I care enough to vote for either of these parties or if any one of them inspiring enough to say you're gonna vote for.
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: It's hard to go and vote for any of these parties and not just party, but some of the candidates and it'd be so hard for me to vote for any of them.
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: But um, reading from the express anna Ramdassi is a star, she's a gem.
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: Top of things.
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: You're making sure you cover PNM business.
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: Prime Minister Dr Keith Rowley says the matter surrounding government minister Stuart Young's statement has been dealt with by the parliament's rules.
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: He said he hopes one day opposition leader Kamala Pusat-Bisesa will apologize to him and his family for her role in placing on the handside that he and his father were rapists and that senior pnm members were enraged in or engaged in pedophilia.
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: Enraged or engaged?
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: I should not clap that's up.
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: No, don't clap that cory, that's a bad idea.
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: Don't clap that right.
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: Um, let me say this right I don't like when people do this and this is one of my issues with politics in.
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: This is one of my issues with politics in this country.
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: One of the issues with politics in this country is never the issue, it's never the problem, because I mean, even if you're reporting to me in my government, I don't know that, I don't know that I have a problem coming out and saying that statement is ridiculous.
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: Nothing about calling the woman zami and thing is funny.
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: That will not be encouraged and it will be dealt with internally.
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: I don't want to tell you how I deal with it.
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: I will meet with my co-worker one and one and say when we in parliament we hear about the people business, if you want to talk people business, go and talk that on rice and Roll.
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: Don't come in here with that and we go thing and we go.
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: But we go, apologize, we go, hug up, we go move on, or you could be dismissed or move according to how egregious the thing is.
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: I don't understand this thing and maybe that's my difficulty with the Democrat versus Republican or the PNM versus UNC.
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: My difficulty with it is that these people have been just disingenuous on both sides.
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: I, I don't know, I don't know that either party, better for the country's people, has been sorting out their self, because instead of you rep you, you, you, you.
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: Rather than reprimanding man for what is a ridiculous statement, you're on people money and people time is taxpayers, dollars paying your salary and you're in work.
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: The best thing all you could find up fine, to talk about is who's am I like to talk about?
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: I mean, am I being disingenuous?
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: No, because I like to talk about who's am I?
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: And I'm kind of thinking, but I'm my own personal life.
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: If you're on the clock, oh god, talk thing.
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: Look how much different problems the country have.
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: And we'd be vexed.
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: This is what I understand.
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: Again, pnm supporters would be vexed with UNC supporters when they come out and say the people are right, the people are right.
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: That is not becoming of somebody who is being groomed to be the next prime minister.
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: It's not becoming of anybody who we vote for.
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: I take my time, burn my little gas, read my whole finger to vote for you and this is what you're doing to represent me in parliament.
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: While we can't afford groceries, I can't afford my little bread.
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: I may be to the last bread scarce and there's the kind of thing you want to talk about in parliament and instead of you just come out and say that like.
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: You could come out and say that like, for instance, let me talk about the next statement.
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: Right, the matter was unfortunate, unnecessary and unintended distraction.
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: The matter has been extensively and comprehensively dealt with by the members of the House and the full chair.
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: That is a better statement than well, she say I's a thing and why she ain't.
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: I find it to be juvenile and primary school behavior when you say Miss them, lash me first.
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: But Miss, miss them lash me first.
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: But miss, he lash me first.
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: And this is leaders.
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: These are the men who in charge, these are the men who want to make decisions about us.
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: Again, back to that ussu.
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: These men want to make decisions about us and so on.
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: Let me continue.
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: You say I trust that and you know, before I continue, you know I get my vex with this statement too.
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: Instead of saying hey, don't say that, what kind of respect is that for a former prime minister?
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: He said I trust that.
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: And you know, before I continue, you know what got me vexed with this statement too.
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: Instead of saying hey, don't say that, what kind of respect is that for a former prime minister of the country?
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: What kind of respect is that for a woman?
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: The Forex man in the recording said hey, the Mike Owen boy, behave yourself, boy.
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: They might as well join this challenge on TikTok.
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: You ever see the challenge on TikTok where everybody puts a spray gun bag in a pile and then a man come and put a jazz board and a man say Chop rice, chop rice, chop rice, chop rice.
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: They might as well be playing these kind of games in the parliament.
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: But let me read one.
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: I trust that the members for Separia and Kuva North are satisfied with Minister Young's apologies relating to the substance of matters.
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: Who were not as satisfied with Minister Young's apologies relating to the substance of matters, which must have been shocking to all of them?
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: Hearing such serious allegations from a member of parliament for the first time, I find this a better statement.
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: He said the House has ruled.
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: The Prime Minister said that he was happy with the House rules used to bring justice and relief to the offended members.
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: I would say that I would have loved to hear what you do about the internal party part, but maybe that's not my business.
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: He said to hear what you do about the internal party part, but maybe that's not my business.
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: He said raise my hopes that one day the member for separia will apologize to me and my family for her role in placing on the hands that my father and I are rapists and my political colleagues and senior members of the pm are engaged in pedophilia, the heinous crime of sexually abusing trend.
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: All right, cool, okay with you, a little dark.
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: It's not that you're wrong, right.
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: I want to be clear.
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: It's not that you're wrong.
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: The the statements that she would have made back then.
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: They agree.
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: Just that.
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: That is a huge turn off for me.
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: If I'm your supporter and this is the accusation, if you can prove them accusations or them kind of allegations, there's nothing to say about a man that there's.
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: Like Kendrick said, jake is a minor.
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: Don't laugh, corey.
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: Don't laugh, don't clap for that.
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: Neither.
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: It's the same, if that's not true about a man, or if you're not sure about that, that's not something that you could come out and say you can't use that to get political points.
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: So I agree with him.
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: But two wrongs don't make a right that to get political points.
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: So I agree with him.
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: But two wrongs don't make a right.
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: And I'm not sure that we're going from a university economics lesson last week to a first year social studies lesson, this thing all over the place.
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: But why you had to bring that up?
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: You could just tell your boy hey, you're wrong, do better than that and tighten up in the parliament so that you, you know making these kind of statements and so on.
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: Uh, well, it went.
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: We really went on to talk about that with finale allen topping and that that, uh, uh, she apologized for the uh comments after facing public outrage.
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so I mean that that, that it is a little disheartening and I want to say I want to say like, uh, it's one is one of my biggest turnoffs for politics and I know that I am on my own with this because one of the things I was saying I think I was listening to joe budden podcast post-election and I was saying that intellects right, intellects make up a very, very small percentage of the population.
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: Like I have a way to call that a student, a fellow in class with me in a class I just finished called digital analytics right, I had a lecture on digital analytics and I one tobogganian student.
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: So to my guy troy, very, very insightful.
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: He running businesses and so on over in tobago.
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: I like his, I like his um, I like the positions he takes in class and the things he argues on his contributions to our class, right, and one of the things he was telling me as, because when we discuss analytics, I was showing them the podcast analytics and the kind of age group people listen to and the kind of numbers we have every week, and one of the things he said which was very insightful is, like he said, core, I realize I listen to your podcast and I hear the direction you're taking.
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: I see exactly what you're doing.
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: He said you're very, very measured in the way you say things, your things researched and you know you have a style of going about it.
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: You ain't cussing, you ain't making no back and all that thing he said.
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: So your numbers almost naturally going to be less than somebody who take a harder stance on issues like those.
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: Or and I tell him I say I comfortable with that, I cool with that, I, I think I all right with that.
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: I'm not in a rush to go away to get a set of numbers.
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: I am not comfortable with making very controversial statements that I might have to defend and caught in, for instance, you know what I mean.
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: Or when I see somebody I'm not comfortable with it.
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: So I am decidedly and markedly middle of the road.
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: I just come in to enjoy myself and if in the enjoyment we could do some little education and edification and so on, I for that, that's me, that's me in a nutshell.
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: But the greater point he was making is that if you spice it up and you put some back and all your numbers will run up quick, which is what we see on facebook and tiktok and thing now, everywhere you see it, the most controversial people.
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: It almost doesn't matter if what they say is true or if what they say is researched or if it's meaningful.
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: You're going to get the numbers if you're willing to, to go a little on the edge or a little bit past the edge, and that's the truth about society.
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: So while I find on a political platform.
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: I would rather hear people just distill the issues Like many, many years ago, maybe, when I first realized that I was in lockjack and they were doing that 2020 document.
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: Since then, every single time we have elections, I go on and read both parties manifestos.
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: I care to deal with um.
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: I ain't so good with the, the pdp and the and the pep and all these other resumens right, just the unc and the pnm once they publish a manifesto document or and all of them typically.
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: But even if they don't, it's not a traditional manifesto sometimes.
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: Sometimes it's just um, like unc, has gone much more digital over time, which I appreciate.
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: You could just go on the website and read some of the plans for the country.
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: I like doing that.
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: I enjoy seeing, okay, what the plans are for the country and so on, and one of the points I want to make in today's episode is that you see, when people make plans in theory like a lot of the things I talk about last week about forex is theoretical, and some of the things that imba talk about this week, they're theoretical as well we we don't know which one is right.
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: I just want you to appreciate that when you, when you present something as a way forward and it's backed by good theory.
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: A hundred people could be in a room.
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: A hundred Roger Hussain and Kirk Mayhew and who else?
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: We have Mariano Brown and Coleman Burt and Kelvin Ramner.
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: If you say this is bright, I always say the people who run in this country, politicians, the people in Moa, minnesota and so on.
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: They're the best and the brightest in the country.
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: Them fellas and them know what they're saying and they have good researchers behind them.
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: When them come up with something as a plan, it have none of them who write and none of them who wrong.
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: You know what they do is if it backed well and they have a good forecast.
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: You had to kind of decide which one had the least cons and the most pros, which one are the biggest upside and the smallest downside, based on the situation.
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: Real world is not theory.
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: I want to make that clear because I realized we talked about this last week and I'm glad that people appreciated what we talked about in the episode.
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: But what I'm talking about in the episode is not a singular solution and no matter.
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: And even if it was a singular solution when I say things like the only way to do it is to eat locally or because we don't manufacture much, and to start manufacturing locally is a long-term plan.
• 49:11
  Speaker 3: It's not a short-term plan.
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: In the short-term plan we had to address consumption, right the short term.
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: You just buy less stuff local.
• 49:18
  Speaker 3: Uh, just buy more stuff locally.
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: Import less stuff, right, meaning that if you had done a levi jeans like, wear them for longer, wash them.
• 49:26
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
• 49:26
  Speaker 3: When they started, when it was dark blue, wear them till they turn white.
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: And stop buying new things from abroad.
• 49:32
  Speaker 3: I'm talking to myself.
• 49:32
  Speaker 3: Eh, stop buying new things from abroad.
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: Stop with the Timo and the Amazon and the Alibaba and them things.
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: And it addresses a small, a small part of the forex problem that we have in now, because we are net importers by far.
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: When you take oil and gas out of the equation and oil and gas content has out of the equation for the next two, three years by far, because most of the things we need to use in the country where there's a car, whatever it is, is a huge import bill that we have.
• 50:01
  Speaker 3: So if we could do our part as consumers to minimize that, we could do it.
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: But when I say these things I'm not saying it as if number one is easy to do number two, they have no backlash and repercussions to that and people ain't gonna feel it that that that is as real as it gets.
• 50:14
  Speaker 3: So when somebody else present me the argument that's saying none, yeah, float the dollar, it will cripple the economy, or I don't understand their reasoning too.
• 50:24
  Speaker 3: And then we had as people in power.
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: Now, if I'm in power, I have the extremely difficult decision to make as to which one of these routes to go, because whatever route I choose, it have a downside and it has some fellas in yellow there who will kill me for the downside.
• 50:40
  Speaker 3: Once the downside come, they will beat me to death with it and you have to be able to stand up to that scrutiny.
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: So when I look at these types of decisions, they are very, very complicated decisions and very, very which could have long-term ramifications.
• 50:58
  Speaker 3: And when you put them out into the real world, where we eliminate the cover of academic life, the real world happening because we could choose what we thought to be the right thing tomorrow and Trump say here we see an Israeli getting our next dollar and supporting Ukraine to back Russia and attack them back All that nonsense we just write on paper.
• 51:20
  Speaker 3: They out the door when all them factors change right.
• 51:24
  Speaker 3: So, saying all that to say, I prefer to sit down and read the manifesto, see this one plans, read this one manifesto, see this one plans and try to see which one I feel will make more sense for at least the next five years, at least the short-term things they want to implement.
• 51:40
  Speaker 3: I want to see.
• 51:41
  Speaker 3: I want to tell you that from the time I started doing that to now, there's not a very big difference between the two in terms of policy.
• 51:47
  Speaker 3: They're both well thought out and they both could work.
• 51:51
  Speaker 3: So that's why it's both on very frivolous things.
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: After that it comes down to me to who's looking good, who's dressing nice, who's talking sweeter.
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: It comes down to them things.
• 52:00
  Speaker 3: I'm not sure that this narrative that we're in real good hands with one and we in terrible hands and the world gonna come to end with the other.
• 52:09
  Speaker 3: I don't believe it.
• 52:10
  Speaker 3: I don't believe it for our society, I don't believe it for trump and them, neither where.
• 52:14
  Speaker 3: If both sides in that us election say, if the next one get in power, that will be the end of democracy as we know it, both sides will say in that same thing it's not.
• 52:25
  Speaker 3: It's not as big a difference as we might think sometimes.
• 52:27
  Speaker 3: But I prefer to read through cd theories and see which one I feel will be better.
• 52:33
  Speaker 3: And I also reading that, knowing fully well that when they get in power there's nothing holding them to that manifesto, that they're right, they could go in there and do they could go in there and actually take the next one.
• 52:44
  Speaker 3: They say, boy, unc, we win the election.
• 52:46
  Speaker 3: They say, boy, just take what PNM put there.
• 52:48
  Speaker 3: It's not looking better than we used, that they don't have to do anything.
• 52:51
  Speaker 3: That's in the manifesto.
• 52:52
  Speaker 3: But that's just me.
• 52:54
  Speaker 3: And again, if you want to call me an intellect, people who study and went and do degree and who are interested in these things might be 5% of the society, 20% if you're lucky, right, if you're lucky, you'll get to 20% of people who would understand politics or interested enough or have the measured nature of intellectual curiosity.
• 53:20
  Speaker 3: You know that song Most people don't.
• 53:24
  Speaker 3: So what people rarely vote for is a bacchanal and he can't and she's a zombie, and so I I understand that.
• 53:31
  Speaker 3: I understand that, while I would prefer not to see that, I am not the people, and I want to say that if you're listening to this podcast right now, sorry to disappoint you, but you are not the people, you are not the majority and not nowhere near the majority.
• 53:44
  Speaker 3: All who I can see I said last week flying out every minute, who picking up big walk abroad and so on.
• 53:50
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
• 53:51
  Speaker 3: Who flying all through the Caribbean to take a big senior position.
• 53:54
  Speaker 3: We are not the people, we are not the majority.
• 53:57
  Speaker 3: So the majority prefer to hear they can't go along anything.
• 54:01
  Speaker 3: Because I was looking at not to come off of this topic too fast.
• 54:04
  Speaker 3: But I was looking at not to come off of this topic too fast.
• 54:11
  Speaker 3: But I was looking at what's your boy name again, keith, scotland, cool pot going down in um shogunate where they're saying the level of extortion of businessmen is on the rise.
• 54:14
  Speaker 3: That's a very frightening situation and they went and do a walkabout and so on.
• 54:17
  Speaker 3: And and faik muhammad, who's the mayor, shogunate, saying them fellas wasting time.
• 54:21
  Speaker 3: They never went to the areas where it have extortion and stuff.
• 54:24
  Speaker 3: I expect that, no matter what they do when they go and walk around, I expect that the mayor, who is kind of ILP or UNC, he come from long enough Remember at that time, the UNC, the ILP, a man just vote against the party.
• 54:39
  Speaker 3: That was Faik Mohamed, if you don't remember A young, young fella at that time.
• 54:42
  Speaker 3: Now he's the mayor of Shogunate and I expect that wherever they say the idea behind the opposition is to oppose.
• 54:52
  Speaker 3: So when you look at the political platform and the importance of platforms where we go and people say hey and everybody shout for we and I mean even as digitized, what we talk about in this course over the last few weeks was digital marketing and how important the Instagram, tiktok, facebook, google, youtube, them things critical now, but nothing in beating going and stand up in front of people and talk.
• 55:14
  Speaker 3: Even if you can't get shooting ears better fed yet, that's still very important.
• 55:19
  Speaker 3: And showing up in media, showing up for interviews, almost as if people want to get some glimmer of who the real you is and when you go up there you see how dr witty was witty in the beginning.
• 55:29
  Speaker 3: You have to be witty, you have to be quick on your feet, you have to be likable.
• 55:32
  Speaker 3: That not um, that not going nowhere.
• 55:35
  Speaker 3: So I think we in a era and we looking at a world where when somebody's a celebrity, right number one, you feel like you know them.
• 55:46
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
• 55:46
  Speaker 3: I used to watch Celebrity Apprentice.
• 55:48
  Speaker 3: I liked Trump in that show and he's like you're fired and you bring up this one and Omarosa and I like the show.
• 55:52
  Speaker 3: So you have a connection or a sort of liking for different types of celebrities.
• 55:57
  Speaker 3: And it's going to be hard when somebody's a celebrity, which means they're charismatic, they're witty, they know how to act.
• 56:03
  Speaker 3: They're charismatic, they're witty, they know how to act.
• 56:06
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 56:06
  Speaker 3: I mean they know how to act under pressure, they know how to deliver lines, all these different types of things.
• 56:08
  Speaker 3: Right, celebrity type people might have a better chance with elections than a regular joe like myself who gonna try to talk and make this on good and another joe, biden, right, but a regular joke is.
• 56:21
  Speaker 3: It's difficult, like I see in here our local celebrity, right.
• 56:25
  Speaker 3: If we had to have a parallel to donald trump over here, it would have been this person by hey bavita go paul chan bavita, one of my classes too.
• 56:34
  Speaker 3: It's from the guardian jack warner.
• 56:37
  Speaker 3: Penny could lead the pnm.
• 56:39
  Speaker 3: You know, jack warner, if, if you had to identify a parallel to Trump in terms of celebrity and charisma and appeal to people and all them kind of thing and aspirational thing from school teacher to being vice president of FIFA I mean FIFA, he said, while he has no interest in the internal politics unfolding in the people's national movement.
• 56:59
  Speaker 3: I believe I read something recently that said that Jack was looking to be, recently that said that Jack was looking to be.
• 57:07
  Speaker 3: Well, he said he would make himself available to Kamala Passad-Bissessa if she need him.
• 57:10
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
• 57:14
  Speaker 3: He seemed to be willing to jump back into the local politics if he called on to do it.
• 57:24
  Speaker 3: And I guess, in an effort to stay relevant, in an effort to stay relevant, he is commenting on whatever.
• 57:35
  Speaker 3: That's a good way to stay relevant in this country.
• 57:37
  Speaker 3: You know, especially when he is um, especially when you're of the ilk of jack warner, and you know the media will carry whatever it is you want to talk about, the media will carry it right.
• 57:45
  Speaker 3: It's still a sunshine media.
• 57:47
  Speaker 3: He's still like the papers that he said, while he has no interest in politics and unfolding in the people's national movement.
• 57:52
  Speaker 3: Jack warner believes penelope beckles robinson is best suited to lead the party.
• 57:56
  Speaker 3: He suggested beckles robinson during an interview with guardian media and is sent at his center excellent student office.
• 58:02
  Speaker 3: Yesterday he, if I had my way, the only person I could see and I'm only saying this because you asked the question, though I'm not in the party has been worthy of leading the PNM is Penelope Beckles.
• 58:13
  Speaker 3: She versus Kamala Prasad Bisesa would be a thrilling fight and a fight for the century.
• 58:18
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean, jack.
• 58:19
  Speaker 3: What a real fat promoter.
• 58:27
  Speaker 3: Beckles Robinson, who is currently the Arima MP, challenged Dr Keith Rowley for the post of political leader in 2014, but lost.
• 58:30
  Speaker 3: Rowley won with 18,121 votes against 1,315.
• 58:32
  Speaker 3: At the time, the party had 81,000 members.
• 58:35
  Speaker 3: What 81,000?
• 58:37
  Speaker 3: What, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what?
• 58:40
  Speaker 3: Commended Beckles Robinson for having the guts to go up against Rowley while others were quarreling in her corner, adding that, at the end of the day, penelope Beckles has served this country in all different capacities and she's very modest, quiet, not rude or disrespectful.
• 58:54
  Speaker 3: That's what we like.
• 58:57
  Speaker 3: We'll hear this one PNM announced while you see the internal elections and all that going right.
• 59:01
  Speaker 3: But there is a good strategy by your opponents too.
• 59:04
  Speaker 3: So you back in, steward young, your opponents.
• 59:07
  Speaker 3: All of a sudden they like penelope beckles.
• 59:08
  Speaker 3: I want you to remember them words just in case, two things in case penelope or penny end up in at the head of the pnm, I want you to remember today and hear what they go say about penny if she become the leader of the pnm.
• 59:21
  Speaker 3: All of a sudden, everything they say good there go be all the and just remember when she go back up for her man, whoever running against her, and hear all the worst of things they go say about her.
• 59:30
  Speaker 3: But you know, the thing is like I eager to see.
• 59:34
  Speaker 3: I eager to see what.
• 59:37
  Speaker 3: What is going to happen with Jack Warner in the next election.
• 59:42
  Speaker 3: I feel like if Trump could be elected, jack Warner have a good chance based on that same celebrity thing.
• 59:48
  Speaker 3: He charismatic, he could go on platform and you know and he knows in this country you don't have to have the kind of budgets that trump and and kamala have.
• 59:56
  Speaker 3: Hey, listen, this is billions people spending on the election campaign over there.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 3: You don't have them kind of budgets.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 3: Where you really need is to control one or two key seats and find yourself in the mix.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 3: And I just I just putting this out there, right, I just putting this out there I know shogun or something.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 3: He good, he good with that, he know how to how to do that and if they pull him directly into the unc, he could be.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 3: He could be an asset, as he said he will be.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 3: But it's something that I want to keep an eye on because Tobago is obscure.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 3: I tell myself Farley, go walk back into there.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 3: Everybody I know who know politics way better than me saying Farley's a dead horse Watson, duke working on a grown neck, jackson seemed to be wanting to come in the mix.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 3: But if Jack Warner find himself with that celebrity status and just campaign for them two Tobago seats, we could have our next situation where um is on moral and spiritual values and he could decide who's the winner of the next election.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 3: But a little bit of local politics always some, always some bacchanal and some kankalang and some some little lacqueray in the local politics, right, it's something that we all had to continue to watch, because we watched the yankees and them last week, and you know I mean we see what they do and we see where they is.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 3: Just remember that wrong this time.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 3: Next year we go be in the same position, them in, but as travel, as as travel advisors say, you know I mean Syria one, just not a place.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: I look better, come find me my name and you got me Island, my sugar island, sweet, sunny island.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: My homeland is sweet, but so Island, my sugar island, sweet, precious island.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 5: I will never let you go.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 5: No, 15, 19, 19,.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 5: Angostura, my name's Citrus O.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 5: Dal and roti chai.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 5: Sancochila, my name's Citrus O.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 5: Curry wild meat meat's like hot pepper, my name's Citrus O.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 5: Pure and healthy coconut water, my name's Citrus O Come, come Friday, get some sun-dry therapy.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 5: Melt all the distress away.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 5: You going to have a better day.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 5: Come for a holiday, play my sweet insanity.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 5: Jump from two little teams.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 5: Say Lord, that's a sweet land.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 5: I pray my home and the sea for two.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 5: My sugar island, sweet, precious island.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 5: I would never let you go.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 5: Come for me, take a trip, my rock and spin, try and make a shot spicy.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: My life is in such a thing Come for me Every day's a blessed day.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: I lost my reality.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: My life is so crazy.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: I'm growing day by day.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: Every day is a blessed day.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: I lost my reality.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: Man was meant to live this way.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: My sugar island, my sugar island, my homeless, sweet one son.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: My sugar island, my sweet, precious island.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: I will never let you go.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: You're my baby, my baby, my baby.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: You're my baby, my baby, my baby.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: You're my baby, my baby, my baby.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: You're my baby, my baby, my baby neck.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: And you're about me To have a lady's feeling of pride, my super soul, yes, cause country that can't be denied.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: My super soul, stand for my free walk inside my cell.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: My super soul, the rivers are beloved to your guy.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: My super soul, I'm not in pain.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: Crucifixion's a heavenly.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: My love for this therapy Definitely.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: God can't treat I'm not in pain.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 2: Bring my brandy and it's okay.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: Here's a different sweet sorbet.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 2: Wash all your troubles away.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: Highline, my sugar.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: Highline, sweet, sunny.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: Highline, sweet, sweet day.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: My home and it's sweet.
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: But so, oh, my land, my sugar island, sweet, sunny island, my home and my sweet home, my land, my sugar island, sweet, sunny island.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 2: I will never, never, let you go.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: Tell me you want this, not a piece of the data.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 2: This island, sweet.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: Tell me you want to love the country forever.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 2: This island, sweet.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: Tell me you want this will love me.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 2: Country forever.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 2: East Island, sweet.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 2: Say where you want.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: There's nothing better than this East Island, sweet.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 2: Say where you want.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: I love me country forever.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: East Island, sweet.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: Come, come for a holiday.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: A lot of me is coming.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 2: My people are so friendly.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 2: Check out the bird sanctuary.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: Come for a holiday, fly on BWIA the same as a line.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 2: They say Thank you.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 2: Highline my sugar, highline, sweet, precious.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: Highline, I would never, ever let you go.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 2: Highline my sugar, highline, sweet, sunny.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: Highline my home, and it's sweet.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: But so Highline my sugar, highline, sweet, precious.
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 6: Highline, I would never, ever let you go, come for a holiday.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 3: If you're coming for a holiday, right, and you're bringing US dollars, right, I would like you to contact me directly before you go in the bank and put your money right.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 3: You know I'm watching an article here.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 3: A few things right?
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 3: Well, of course, rbc defending the credit card limit spending and all them things.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 3: Again, once you see one bank do it, all the banks are going to do it.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 3: So expect all the other banks to respond to that.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 3: The two Canadian banks done talk already.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 3: Local banks likely to do the same and make similar announcements.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 3: Right that coming, wait for that.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 3: And you know I was talking about.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 3: Salute my guy, mark jardine, who's now the topic top guide hefe in rbc, right, and the thing about it is this is jardine, but his personality.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 3: This man does not suffer fools.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 3: He's very direct.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 3: He's he's not very sure about what he's doing.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 3: Anybody who's listening to this, who knows Jardine, could vote for this right.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 3: He's the type of person who, if he surmises that something is the right decision and he's in charge of that decision, he's going to make that decision.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 3: Let the chips fall where they may.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 3: He's not a man who who running from the consequences of his decisions or his actions either.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 3: So that is that until all them things I talked about last week change, the bank's not going to revert and and look at that, look at that as a marker for when the economy really changing, when them banks come back and say, all right, good, we're releasing us now.
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 3: Right, look for that as a marker as to when things really change.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna open my big mouth last time and say, well, the bankers say, just apply for more the same credit cards if they only gain you two thousand us on one, apply for three, so now you have six thousand.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 3: All the banks also increasing the fees associated with um, maintaining a credit card.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 3: Right, because I, with my fast self, I see Scotia say, well, if you have a black card, you'll get 5,000 US.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 3: I say all right, I call her.
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 3: I say I want a black card.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 3: She say, I'm sorry, the FIFA black card is 4,500 annually.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 3: I say all right, I don't want a black card.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 3: Talk done, right.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 3: But coming from the Express this week is this Adam Ramda's two writers.
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 3: They didn't tell me who writes it.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 3: They said headline reads Invert no devaluation.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 3: Minister dismisses IMF call and says it's nothing new.
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 3: So when I talk about devaluation, even the word devaluation right.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 3: When a dollar is controlled, which which we talked about last week right, where the government sets the price of foreign exchange, you use terms like revaluation and devaluation right, which means you choose where to put it.
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 3: What I was describing last week was when a dollar floating, where you will hear terms like appreciation and depreciation right.
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 3: So when you hear the word devaluation, it doesn't just mean that he's not moving it.
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 3: Devaluation mean he keeping it at 680 or wherever the ceiling is.
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 3: Now it does seem like it could pass seven right, wherever that ceiling is now it seemed like they're keeping it right and they're not removing that and they're just basically saying, okay, I'm gonna hide that.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 3: He not even discussing the idea of floating the dollar, to get to the point, because I did see a few articles this week talking about what happened to places like Jamaica and Guyana when they float the dollar, and these are complicated things.
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 3: I don't want you to take what we talk about on the podcast.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 3: Think about what we talk on the podcast about every episode as an inch of information in what is a problem that is a mile long.
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 3: Right, it is just a smidgen of information on what is a mile long.
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 3: Let me add to the mile right One of the issues on why Jamaica and Guyana end up in a situation where the dollar is 200 to 1 and 100 and something to 1.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 3: End up in a situation where the dollar is 200 to 1 and 100 and something to 1, and then, particularly in jamaica, where we use ghana in a different situation, or because I'm in the midst of one of the biggest oil boom maybe this this hemisphere ever see.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 3: But um, when you look at jamaica and that gap between the wealthy and the gap between rich and poor, or the deterioration or the disappearance of the middle class, a lot of it could be traced back to the same thing at the same issue.
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 3: Because if I just come as a moron, I say, all right, the dollar floating and we land somewhere at 20, what happens is all of them, or everybody who have us now and I'm not talking about the couple hundred us you're having a envelope choked up in your drawer somewhere that you're trying to sell somebody for ten dollars.
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 3: Right, I talk about people who have billions of us dollars in accounts in home.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 3: You know, I mean, they have their billions of us dollars or hundreds of millions of us dollars, you just improve their wealth, their domestic wealth, by three times.
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 3: If they had $7 to one before for that billion, then they now have $20 to one for that same billion that they had.
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 3: So what was before worth $7 billion is now worth $20 billion and they immediately improve their circumstances exponentially.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 3: Right, it will solve the US dollar problem, because then they will be much more incentivized to release their US into the economy and people will get US to buy.
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 3: But that is not Let me put it like this, right, that is incidental.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 3: That is one of the things that will happen.
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 3: What will happen more and the bigger correction, I should say, or the greater effect is where people are going to substitute the purchasing of foreign goods for the purchase of local goods.
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 3: Right, so you're no longer going to be able to afford apples and grapes or foreign clothes and foreign shoes and foreign vacations and those types of things, and you're more likely to buy local.
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 3: The buying local is very psychological, especially when it happens gradually.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 3: Psychological, especially when it happened gradually.
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 3: What you will find is that people who used to wash with tide pods go start to find your index and so bad they go say it washing decent.
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 3: You know, I mean people used to buy johnny walker will start to say 1919, tasting just like johnny walker and all these different things.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 3: Your taste and preferences start to change when you do it abruptly.
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 3: Well, you have over this a very short space of time.
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 3: You it the abruptly.
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 3: Where you have over this very short space of time, the things that you were buying from abroad cost you triple.
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 3: It could be debilitating for your economy again.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 3: I'm just using one example of a middle class person who save enough money and do well enough in life that the child could go to school abroad and that child in year one and them, them, them, them.
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 3: Trend fees was about 70 000, you know.
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 3: I mean it was 10 000 us a year.
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 3: That 10 us that cost you 70 000 today, the next semester.
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 3: If that cost in you, uh, how much it will be.
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 3: If you go 20 to 1 200, 200,000.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 3: At that point in time, understand that you have to make major sacrifices.
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 3: The extra 130,000 that he was doing you have to make.
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 3: Those major sacrifices could involve number one, taking your child out of school, which again affects your future, your family and your generations.
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 3: It could mean mortgaging your house, which you done pay for one thing already, which is again affected, and it will be significant changes in lifestyle and so on.
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 3: It's going to be difficult and when you, when you're going to correct what's happening in the economy now, because again more us going to become available or at least less us will be demanded so that you don't have the pressure on us dollars again.
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 3: But the truth is that it can have a debilitating effect on the middle class.
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 3: One of the issues is that most economic policies affect the middle class the most.
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 3: The middle class is the people who are working every day.
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 3: They're probably working for salaries and so on.
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 3: They're running small businesses.
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 3: There's still no profit, they're responsible for some employees, but they're not in the upper class, because the upper class is typically unaffected by economic policy in the same way as the middle class, for two reasons.
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 3: The bumps and swells in economies do affect them because of how much money they have.
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 3: They just have enormous amounts of wealth.
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 3: They're typically not dependent on one economy or the other either.
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 3: In other words, you see Hansa Macal Forex and Forex and Forex and Hansa Macal see they buy all these big companies in the States.
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 3: That family is not affected in the same way that our family is affected by these things.
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 3: So the upper class tends to stay the same, regardless of what the economic policy is.
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 3: The poorest class of people in any country not affected by none of this, neither, because this is a real middle class podcast we had for the last two weeks discussing this forex thing.
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 3: Poorest class of people.
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 3: They're not affected by that, they don't care.
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 3: They discuss it, they talk about it.
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 3: They say, boy, we're under pressure and that kind of thing, but the lifestyle's not going to change a whole lot.
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 3: Largely because, again, the bumps and the swells in in our regular economy and the cycles of economy and economic decision making, it's just not affecting them in the same way they're going about.
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 3: When stalin says sufferers don't care about thing and suffer, it's true.
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 3: They're dealing with what happened in the community, what happened in the ground, what is this style?
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 3: Where we're going, what we're doing, what we're eating?
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 3: They're not concerned about the the long-term well-being of our economy in the same way.
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 3: So it tends to fall smack dab on the middle class.
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 3: So, while I might say, everything that I said last week is not that it's not valid.
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 3: It's just a very, very difficult decision to make because when you make that decision you're hurting a big part of your voting population.
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 3: Let me go to what Inbert's saying right here.
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 3: Inbert's saying no devaluation.
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 3: Minister dismisses IMF call as nothing new.
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 3: There will be no devaluation in the TT dollars.
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 3: This will not increase the availability of Forex in the country, but it will decrease the demand significantly.
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 3: Callum, tell them the whole story.
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 3: This from Minister of Finance Callum Inbert, who said all the all the devaluation will do is cause a massive spike in the cost of living and make everything more expensive.
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 3: It will it, it will, it will.
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 3: But it will also make us do more with less and buy more local things.
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 3: It's not going to feel great.
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 3: It will feel as if you get poorer.
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 3: But are you really poorer because you have to eat local foods over foreign foods?
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 3: Are you really poorer because you can't wear dolce and gabbana or or chien or or azara and uniqlo?
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 3: And are you really poorer because you had to buy things made locally?
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 3: I don't know right, that's a rhetorical question in a media release that he had taken note over the last two weeks of commentary on, one, the availability of foreign exchange and two, the policy for distribution of foreign exchange and three, the exchange rate of the dollar.
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 3: You see number two.
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 3: I want to talk about that a little bit.
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 3: Sorry, pause, I want to talk about that a little bit.
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 3: Right, the policy for distribution of foreign exchange.
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 3: Commentators, economists, commentators, economists and business groups operating in the country have noted that an ongoing us dollar shortage and difficulty it poses to them.
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 3: He said the reality is that the imf's recommendation that the tnt government should allow the dollar to float, which would result in an immediate devaluation not devaluation but depreciation of the dollar right, but they say devaluation here is not new.
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 3: As far back as 2012, the IMF recommended a greater exchange rate flexibility to allow the pricing to play a bigger role in bringing equilibrium in the market.
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 3: This was repeated in the IMF's 2013 Article 4 report on Trinidad and Tobago, where the IMF reiterated its view that our exchange rate should be allowed to fluctuate within a wider band.
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 3: Okay, so they're not saying float.
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 3: The IMF actually recommended what we call a managed float.
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 3: Still, a managed float is what we have now, right, but what they're saying is make a wider band.
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 3: Instead of saying as high as 7, as low as 4, they want us to say the low don't matter at this point, right, but they wanted us to say as high as 15, and it could float within there.
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 3: However, the then-UNC government told the IMF that they were not contemplating changes to the exchange rate system at that time.
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 3: Again in 2014, the IMF told the then-UNC government that the forex allocation system existing at that time had led to an apparently widespread and persistent recurrence of the foreign exchange shortages.
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 3: However, the then-UNC government did not agree to the IMF's recommendation that the dollar should be allowed to float.
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 3: So this is what I mean when I say see politics the UNC went through this several times before and them decide not to float Two days.
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 3: They maintain the same ban that we have, but now they have most to say about it.
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 3: You know, if they come back in power next year, they're probably going to resist this as well.
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 3: The prudent thing to do right now is probably to resist this call until 2028, when gas and when we're back in a boom, then this problem will disappear.
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 3: Gas and when we back in a boom, then this problem will disappear.
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 3: So we just think of it as giving people a few years of hardship so that we don't end up where jamaica or guyana when they end up back in the day, right and see if that's something you're willing to live with.
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 3: He stressed that.
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 3: He stressed that the present pnm government has consistently stated since 2015 that it maintains the fixed exchange rate control the fixed exchange rate to control inflation, which is now almost the lowest in the world, and will not impose hardship on the poor and vulnerable by devaluing the TNT dollar.
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 3: He said it was noteworthy that Barbados, which has been in an IMF program for many years and at one time within the last 10 years has almost run out of foreign exchange reserves, has resolutely refused for the last 10 years, has almost run out of foreign exchange reserves, has absolutely has resolutely refused for the last 49 years to float or devalue its dollar.
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 3: I mean, I believe that, um, while we have a managed float guy, I know barbados one might be fixed.
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 3: I think they are two to one and it's not 201 and 202.
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 3: Them is 2 to 1.
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 3: The fact that the Barbados dollar has been pegged to the US dollar rate of 2 to 1 since 1975.
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 3: Further, the exchange rate control restrictions in Barbados that do not exist in Trinidad.
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 3: He suggested that the attention should be paid to how Barbados has managed to keep its dollar fixed for so long and how it's managed to restrict capital flows despite being in an IMF program.
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 3: So he went on to talk about foreign exchange distribution right.
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 3: So I'll say that, whether you're your call right or you, you have, you have some information.
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 3: You might know your own thing or you have your own opinion about this forex situation and you might be saying to yourself better, we float it and we buy the bullet now and it will reduce the amount of imports that the country have.
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 3: You know, always bringing in this and bringing in that, it could reduce the imports.
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 3: It could make our exports more attractive to people who have to buy things from Trinidad.
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 3: If we float the dollar, we let it go to $20 or wherever it lands, then man who wants to buy things from Trinidad, like things like Sunshine, snacks, angostura, uh, sasha, cosmetics, essential, all them things now get cheaper to foreigners and they likely to import more because trinidad products just get cheaper, uh, if that's what you believe should be done, or if you believe we should try and ride out the storm, like what Imbert and most of the people who are in our government for the last since the 80s, they tend to want to manage the side of it where money is concerned or the value of the dollar, sorry, and even under Robinson, who lauded as a genius now, but, uh, people wasn't too happy with him back then.
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 3: The decision then was more to.
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 3: It was more on the side of embargoes, where they stop certain products from coming in rather than look at the exchange rate itself.
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 3: So they stop people from being able to buy abroad as a way to, as a way to arrest the amount of foreign exchange that live in the country, right?
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 3: So, whichever policy you believe in, or, if you believe, float it.
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 3: Let me balance out the situation.
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 3: Hold it where it is, restrict it whatever you might.
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 3: You might believe, uh, one of the things that you will realize is that whoever, whoever in power between now call it 2025 and 2027, 2028, uh, you're almost.
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 3: It doesn't matter where you do, you're wrong.
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 3: I could put it like that.
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 3: There's no, there's no upside to the decision.
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 3: The economy is what it is.
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 3: We, we fail to innovate, we fail to diversify, we're not attracting foreign exchange in the same way or in in pretty much any way, and we, we really built a wrong, a society where we have our strong preference for things that imported and we not, we don't seem to be interested, or maybe not incentivized, to export a whole lot.
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 3: Then we have a, we have a challenge on our hand that will persist unless again we find real oil and gas and that make us back with purse, right back in the game.
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 3: So it's one of them situations to continue to observe and just remember that there's no one or no simple right or wrong answer to this situation.
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 3: It is very complicated, very complicated, and especially economic theory.
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 3: Every time you talk about economic theory, there's, there's at the assumption, in the in the end, which does not make sense in the real world.
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 3: But it's good for theory.
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 3: You say all things remain in equal.
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 3: You know, if all things remain equal, it is, it is a, it is a blanket statement that says once these conditions remain exactly the same, dish ought to work.
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 3: And the truth is that in the real world, conditions don't remain the same for any length of time, and especially now that we have, uh, your boy donald, mr orange and power right, and you don't know what his.
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 3: Well, we know what his attitude towards maduro, which is our biggest gas contract now, or what we call the dragon gas deal, that's supposed to start to take flight 2027, 2028.
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 3: You're not sure what his position will be on that and where it will leave us and you know they like to talk about.
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 3: If yankee sneeze tr Trini catch the call.
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 3: It's something that we had to observe, but again, he's a man of kaiso and chun and so on.
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 3: So if it is we're talking about foreign money.
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 3: I just want to go back to the beginning of where I started in this segment.
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 3: If you come for a holiday, as suggested, bring your US and try and sell it and ease me up on the exchange rate to sell it.
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 2: We're going to sell it.
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 2: We gonna need it, right?
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 6: Whoa, whoa, whoa.
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 6: Yeah, ivy back up.
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 6: She close to leave Because John was strung and out All alone.
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 6: He was left to grieve.
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 6: She had an ex-man in south.
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 6: She said openly I really love you, johnny, but you will have no money.
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 6: So what will my future be?
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 6: Even though you love me, we can't love without money.
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 6: We can't make love on hungry belly.
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 6: Johnny, you'll be the only one I am dreaming of.
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 6: You're my turtle dove.
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 6: But no money, no love.
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 6: Bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, whoa, whoa, whoa, mama.
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 6: Find some money, johnny.
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 2: Wepa.
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 6: Johnny Whippa, if you hear how we plead with she to get she to understand, listen, mister.
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 6: She tell Johnny, let go me blasted hand and make up you mind.
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 6: We got to break up this lime.
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 6: She said poverty is a crime.
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 6: You got no money still you're tangling me all the blinking time.
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 6: We can't love without money.
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 6: We can't love on hungry belly.
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 6: Hungry belly, johnny.
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 6: You'll be the only one.
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 6: I am dreaming of you, my turtle dove but no money no love.
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 6: Gentlemen, let me tell you plain.
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 6: She say I don't want to make a scene, but if you only touch me again, the police will intervene.
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 6: You ain't got a cent.
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 6: I couldn't even pay me rent.
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 6: I had to give up me apartment.
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 6: You give me nothing to eat.
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 6: Now you want me to sleep on the pavement so we can make love on Hungry Belly.
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 2: Johnny, you'll be the only one.
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 6: I am dreaming of You're my turtle dove, but no money, no love.
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 6: Oh yeah, johnny nearly killed she with blows, poor Ivy ball like a cow.
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 6: Rip off she wig and tear down she claws.
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 6: The south man I want she now.
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 6: Oh Lord, what a fight.
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 6: They roll until broad daylight.
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 6: Charlotte Street was hot that night.
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 6: She get some good lick, but she let go some kick and some bite Singing.
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 6: We can't love without money.
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 6: We can't make love on hungry belly.
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 6: Johnny, you'll be the only one I am dreaming of.
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 6: You're my turtle dove, but no money, no love.
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 6: Pnm or UNC.
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 3: You're my turtle dove, but I'm talking about culture.
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 3: I'm talking about this heavy talk.
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 3: Milford Road in Scarborough, tobago, is now officially renamed Calypso Rose Boulevard.
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 3: Now now officially renamed Calypso Rose Boulevard, now officially named after Calypso Rose.
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 3: She excitedly said that is my boulevard, pointing at her side.
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 3: If these things make you feel good, you go care, feel good Again.
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 3: I'm going to do my endeavor best when I go to Tobago to say the words Calypso Rose Boulevard, because our bad habits are calling for these things to be changed.
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 3: And then, when they change it, I still say King George V Park and instead of saying Brian Lara Promenade, I still say Independence Square.
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 3: I have some bad habits I'm trying to change and I'm trying to do better.
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 3: But salute, we stay in Tobago for the rest of the news.
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 3: We stay in Tobago for the rest of the show.
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 3: The rest of the show is about Tobago.
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 3: But I am a man.
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 3: They say no money, no love, and when you have debts, you just have to pay debts to people.
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 3: When you have debts, you pay debts.
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 3: So if Rose and we talk about it Calypso Rose Boulevard, let me play Calypso Rose now.
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 3: Lips are rosy, guitar solo oh, christmas.
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 2: Oh Christmas, it's the time to be happy again, time for giving and receiving.
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 2: You and I must have something to share Toys for children and me, for women, plenty of love For the matron.
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 2: We must have something to share Toys for children and people, women, plenty love for the matron.
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 2: Whenever you wake in the morning and you wake up with the spirit of king, I say we got tempo, we gonna go, and the fire we gonna break down Christmas morning while we were running.
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 2: We go Lego and Taffara, we go Braydon Christmas morning While we go running.
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 2: So don't be stingy.
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 2: Have a pretty whiskey, bring it back.
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 2: Oh.
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 2: Oh, con tiempo nos saltaremos Con la parada Gozaremos mira.
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 2: Ay, ay, ay, ay, ay.
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 2: Oh Christmas, oh Christmas.
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 2: We all should have enjoy it at least.
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 2: Oh Christmas, oh.
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 5: Christmas.
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 3: On to a man who knew all too well about Calypso Rose Boulevard.
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 3: New Soka Warriors head coach Dwight York has arrived in Trinidad and Tobago.
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 3: York, a former Trinidad and Tobago captain.
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 3: I find it failing to mention in all these articles that York was once the assistant coach under Russell Latipi as well for the Toko Warriors.
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 3: Right, but they say York, a former Trinidad and Tobago captain, was welcomed to the VIP lounge Piako International Airport on November 8th.
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 3: Among the welcoming party were TTAFA officials, including Director of Communications, sean Fuentes.
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 3: Sean salute to Sean, always on point, who was part of the TTAA staff for the historic 2006 World Cup in Germany.
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 3: York 53 takes charge of the national men's team with the main objective of being the main objective being qualification for the 2026 FIFA World Cup.
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 3: That tournament expanded from 32 to 48 teams and will be hosted by the USA, mexico and Canada.
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 3: This is what we're talking about, right?
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 3: We've been talking about this World Cup for a while.
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 3: Salute to TTFU President Kieran Edwards.
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 3: They met and they spoke, and training camp should be starting as we speak.
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 3: So a few things about York being here, right?
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 3: Well, before that, let me give credit where credit is due.
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 3: On November 5th, minister of Sports Sh Kujo revealed that the government was contributing $2 million towards the World Cup campaign.
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 3: I hope it's US.
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 3: The minister said that the money can be used by the TDFA for training camp salaries or whatever it deems to be necessary.
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 3: $2 million is not a lot of money for a World Cup campaign.
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 3: I mean it's really.
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 3: I mean the World Cup is in two years.
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 3: Think of $2 million.
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 3: Divide that by 24 months plus and you will realize that there's not a lot of money for camping.
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 3: But we ought to be grateful for whatever it is we have.
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 3: Hopefully that was US dollars and not TT.
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 3: But the calls by people like Jack Warner and them that sport is one of the things that could save us as a country from this crime.
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 3: And as things get more difficult in the country again remember one of my statements this crime and as things get more difficult in the country again, remember one of my statements is the more you could give people hope and the more you could instill confidence in people.
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 3: Is it better?
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 3: Things will be better.
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 3: Things will be economically with crime, everything.
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 3: You're happier once.
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 3: You're hopeful in life, no matter what your circumstances and change your economic circumstances, you say but you're hopeful that tomorrow will be better, it will be better right, and sport is one of the things that gives us hope, especially when we put somebody like Dwight York there that everybody at least now know and love and them things that could change if they start a loss.
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 3: But I think there's a few things that Dwight York does for us here.
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 3: He has the profile of being an extremely successful player that young players and the talent in the frame will look up to and listen to, maybe in a way that I suppose they wasn't getting Angus Eve to listen to them or getting certainly the other fellows who've come before Angus and then Derek King.
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 3: You had to listen when Dwight York talked.
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 3: Whether you're in or out of football or you're on the field or you're on the bench or you're in the stands, you had to listen when he talked.
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 3: So his media conferences will be fully subscribed.
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 3: I think more people will come to the games because dwight york is the coach, even if you don't know the players themselves.
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 3: The next local game we have is probably going to sell more tickets than any of the games we had in the recent past, just to see york being the coach and with the hope that that will bring right.
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 3: I also feel as if he will.
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 3: He has a better chance of getting sponsorship right.
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 3: There's no local company who will not take a call from dwight york, uh, or not take a call from ttfa when dwight york is at the helm, to put sponsorship dollars behind the team, because two million is not enough.
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 3: We're gonna need some domestic sponsorship.
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 3: I feel the same about international sponsorship, because York has had deals before with people like Adidas and Nike Deals and dealings right, so you know who to call.
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 3: He can't get a conversation.
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 3: He could get doors open that maybe Angus Eve or Derek King might be able to get in them rooms to have them conversations.
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 3: I also feel as if York, with his name and profile as a player, a treble-winning player, but also as a coach, who his name brings something.
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 3: When he was announced as Strindad and Tobago coach, it was carried in several British newspapers and all through Europe and Australia, of course, where his last coaching gig was.
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 3: When Derrick King was announced, they didn't carry nobody.
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 3: They didn't use the aim carrier story, you know I mean.
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 3: So no, knock on derrick king, on receive.
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 3: Of course, I will listen to portal.
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 3: Whoever they put in charge.
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 3: I think you're bringing something with hope, you know, and he could.
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 3: He could attract more like foreign based players who great my grandmother and then and then was from trinidad and they have a chance to play for here.
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 3: I think we had to change some of the rules too.
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 3: I believe we have some restrictive rules in ttfa that stop a court like it had to be a model, or your father directly from trinidad.
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 3: If it's too much a pumpkin vine, you can't come back so hoping that we could adjust them rules.
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 3: Because what I see for jamaica now with michael antonio and um the mary gray and a few more fellas who never set foot in jamaica yet them don't know, not more down there, I don't know, sterling wasn't one, but there are a few of them playing.
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 3: If they can't make england team or they're not shoo-ins for england team to play for jamaica and for us dominating.
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 3: They're looking good.
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 3: So I don't know who are the players internationally who have some kind of trinidadian lineage or something like that or who might be eligible to play, but if they are out there, I am pretty sure that Yoyoke is the person to attract them.
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 3: So salute to Dwight York and I wish him all the best.
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 3: I'm hoping that we could, we could.
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 3: I'm hoping that he gets us on the straight and narrow towards qualification.
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 3: I've seen players training hard.
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 3: I come here and I talk Kevin Molyly, know a little bit about yours unfit.
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 3: I see you get signed for defense force.
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 3: You're looking fit.
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 3: Now though all that small talk you're looking good and you're looking fit.
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 3: So I believe that, uh, it's not saying here when is his first match, but I want to say the last thing I had seen is that the next time we'll be playing is somewhere around um february, march, you know.
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 3: So it gives york some time with the team and some time to make some deals and so on, and one of the things I'm hoping for a little bit selfish, right beyond being able to take trend out to the world cup or doing well, I want to see dwight york do great here, because he has been complaining for a long time that his pedigree is showing he has the badges and he has the.
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 3: He has what it takes to coach at the highest levels internationally and he's saying that race is keeping him back from getting jobs.
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 3: Right, he's saying that it don't give black coaches jobs in the first divisions anywhere in europe and this is one of them things where if you end up on ben hacker status, where you carry the smallest nation to the World Cup, and if he do something in that World Cup, even better, it raises his profile.
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 3: And maybe now you remember the biases I talked about before the beginning of the episode.
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 3: You had to look past some of your own biases because this man doing so great and you just want to bring him into your club and we have a beautiful thing where York take us to the World Cup.
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 3: We do well.
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 3: Then York land a big job in charge of somebody like Manchester United who cares either way.
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 3: You know and I'm just saying that because I'm hoping that it doesn't work against him when you go in and you take this top job, things don't work out because it has a hundred reasons why it can't work out Administrative issues, a hundred reasons why it wouldn't work out and then, when it works out, it sullied your name and your coaching career globally.
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 3: Now nobody wants to touch you.
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 3: I'm just hoping that that is not the case.
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 3: So we're using this time to wish Dwight York all the best, wish all the players all the best, get our support squarely behind Super Warriors and watch how we're going to flourish for the next home games.
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 3: But as I say, since we're in Tobago and we owing people some christmas tune, let me take in some christmas tune from tobago before we go now.
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 7: Christmas time is the time for giving.
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 7: We learn that from since we're small.
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 7: But from year to year it's the same old thing Santa's coming to call.
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 7: We always ignore it or forget it.
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 7: This we know is true.
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 7: So this coming Christmas, let's all make an effort.
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 3: Get a present for Santa too.
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 7: Let's trade in the old sleigh and the reindeer for a big car With a chauffeur and a helicopter.
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 1: Because everybody loved their old.
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 7: Santa Claus love their own santa claus christmas is here and we all having fun.
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 7: Santa brought presents for everyone, but he had to squeeze to a chimney for Nicholas.
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 7: What a horrible place to pass.
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 7: Why not open your window or your front door so Santa could bring his gifts?
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 7: A finder climbing on a rooftop and coming through a chimney is a whole.
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 7: That's a stupidness.
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 7: Move him from the North Pole because it's so cold.
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 7: Give him an apartment with modern equipment.
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 7: I made a butler.
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 7: He deserves better.
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 7: Sure, we're loved.
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 2: Yes, and a clause ¶¶.
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 7: Everybody drinking beer, whiskey and rum.
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 7: Oh, Santa ain't getting on and his jingle bells, jingle bells, they're off.
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 7: Santa Claus wearing the same old reclothes.
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 7: We should be ashamed.
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 7: We should be blamed.
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 7: We treat Santa Claus like a brute.
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 7: So let's chip in some dollars, Take him to the tail of for a new continental suit, take him out to a nightclub or a movie, get some fine chicks and give a party.
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 7: It's time to chip in and do our share.
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 3: To make sure he comes more than once a year.
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 3: Thank you, tobago right.
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 3: And New York is the Prince of Tobago, queen of Milford Road, to her Queen, milford Road Boulevard.
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 3: No, wait, wait, wait, calypso Rose Boulevard.
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 3: And if Dwight York is the Prince of Tobago, we had to close off with the King, thank you.
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 3: When they laugh down their face, when they put their saddle rattles, it's a danger coming down when they pass a lonely bottle Time to take another one.
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 5: Christmas night, christmas, sweet.
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 5: Christmas night, christmas, sweet.
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 5: Maria Maria Maria, you hold my last dance of praise.
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 5: Maria Maria Maria, I hope that you come by me.
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 5: Maria Maria Maria, I hope that you come by me, maria Maria Maria.
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 5: Not a thing in my house.
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 5: Maria Maria Maria, it's been a bad thing in some house.
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 5: Christmas night, christmas, sweet.
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 5: Christmas night, christmas sweet.
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 5: La la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la sweet.
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 5: When they eat the ham and bread and the liquor in their head and the quattro song is sweeter, like if sugar in their finger.
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 5: Then they come in down the street and they're sounding all the sweet.
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 5: Then they'll be sung by the coal the old man beat into a hole.
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 5: Christmas night, christmas, sweet.
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 5: Christmas night, christmas, sweet.
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 5: Maria Maria Maria, you're a child of God.
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 5: Pray, maria Maria Maria, you are a letter to pray.
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 5: Maria Maria Maria, I hope you don't come by me.
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 5: Maria Maria Maria.
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 5: Not a thing in my house.
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 5: Maria Maria Maria Is my neighbor?
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 5: Give me some sauce.
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 5: Christmas night, christmas week.
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 5: Christmas night, christmas week.
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 5: It only take all the time on the road week.
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 3: Christmas night, christmas week hey, take all the time on your road, be productive Somehow or the other.
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 3: We're in the middle of November all of a sudden.
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 3: I know this year fly fast, but I will be back here with all the next week, as usual.
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 3: I will talk to all of you.
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 3: Bye.