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Top 25 Utes!, Jazz vs. Spurs 3 times? , Dodgers’ Age Problem & Dodgers Owner Mark Walters Drama · DnA Sports Recap

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SPEAKER_00: We've got the first one coming from a McKinley Cutler saying, loving all the Lakers drama.
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SPEAKER_00: Definitely gonna be talking about today.
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SPEAKER_00: Uh apparently all the turnover and uncertainty at the top has frozen front office hiring.
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SPEAKER_00: And with uh Walter's sale, they need to replace a lot of people.
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SPEAKER_00: Uh, the more of a dumpster fire, the more of the dumpster fire this becomes, the better it is for the jazz.
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SPEAKER_00: The Lakers picks are looking better and better the longer and messier this gets.
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SPEAKER_00: Cannot agree with you more on that one.
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SPEAKER_00: Uh, we've got another comment here saying here, and not a ja and not a jazz thing, but the Walter situation is just looking worse and worse every day.
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SPEAKER_00: Worse and worse by the day.
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SPEAKER_00: I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up selling the Dodgers uh by the end of the year.
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SPEAKER_00: Uh we'll definitely get into that when we talk some major league baseball for sure.
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SPEAKER_00: I like it.
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SPEAKER_00: Thanks, McKinley.
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SPEAKER_00: Appreciate it, buddy.
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SPEAKER_00: All right, man.
1:39
SPEAKER_00: So let's go ahead and go ahead and jump into our first topic of the day here, AJ.
1:42
SPEAKER_00: Um, so AJ, we've been speaking on this channel a lot lately about uh, especially on our Ute channel, about the strength of schedule, right?
1:52
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we talk about quite often, uh, especially last week in our Big 12 power rankings.
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SPEAKER_00: Um anyway.
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SPEAKER_00: So we've been talking about a lot of uh a lot based off of strength of schedule, who's got easier, etc.
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SPEAKER_00: etc.
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SPEAKER_00: etc.
2:22
SPEAKER_00: Um now with uh AJ, we're gonna go ahead and do that with a little bit with the MBA.
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SPEAKER_00: And uh man, right out of the gates, uh, this some this is something that is very, very interesting.
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SPEAKER_00: The first thing I want to talk about um on this one is gonna be the other side of the coin.
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SPEAKER_00: Okay.
2:35
SPEAKER_00: Uh so let's discuss about that and how it shows up, uh, how we got some favoritism in the league a little bit, and then we'll show uh some contrast there.
2:44
SPEAKER_00: So let's go ahead and start with the 76ers, right?
2:48
SPEAKER_00: Um it just shows that it just shows Pagoya that uh no matter what team LeBron is on, the NBA will go out of the go out of its way to make things easier for him.
2:56
SPEAKER_00: The 76ers don't face a Western Conference team uh going into the until November 23rd when they play Portland.
3:05
SPEAKER_00: Uh so there you go.
3:06
SPEAKER_00: The first whole month of the season, they do not face a team in the West.
3:11
SPEAKER_00: They do open up this season against the Knicks, uh, who are the defending champions, uh, followed by the Cavs.
3:15
SPEAKER_00: So a couple of tough, good appointments were out the gate there.
3:18
SPEAKER_00: But again, they and they also have to play them twice in that month, but again, they're not facing a team from the superior conference after until the full ha first part of the first month of the season is over.
3:30
SPEAKER_00: They also, AJ, um have the fewest back-to-backs in this season.
3:36
SPEAKER_00: You don't say out of every NBA team.
3:38
SPEAKER_00: They had the fewest back-to-backs.
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SPEAKER_00: They also have uh tied for the least amount of three games and four nights.
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SPEAKER_00: So, yeah, a little bit of favoritism there for sure from Adam Silver.
3:47
SPEAKER_01: I think that's actually a lot of favoritism.
3:48
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
3:49
SPEAKER_00: So now let's go ahead and take a look at it the other way, AJ.
3:52
SPEAKER_00: Let's go ahead and break it off on how that's looking for the Utah Jazz.
3:55
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
3:56
SPEAKER_00: Uh the Utah Jazz have schedules, uh has a decent schedule uh for the first month.
4:01
SPEAKER_00: Um now they open the season a season on the road against the Grizzlies in Memphis.
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SPEAKER_00: Uh they'll be facing the Pells after that at home.
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SPEAKER_00: Uh, then the uh White Walkers at home as well.
4:12
SPEAKER_00: For those of you who don't know, that's the uh LA Lakers.
4:14
SPEAKER_00: Um like that.
4:16
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
4:17
SPEAKER_00: It's gonna be any thing.
4:18
SPEAKER_00: It's gonna be a thing.
4:19
SPEAKER_00: It's gonna be a thing.
4:20
SPEAKER_00: Uh then we play uh the Grizzlies at home again, and then we play the Spurs at home.
4:23
SPEAKER_00: Now, why am I bringing that up?
4:25
SPEAKER_00: Well, we play the Spurs again uh twice in the next three weeks, which means we play the Western Conference Champions three times in the first month of the season.
4:39
SPEAKER_00: So let me ask you this, AJ.
4:41
SPEAKER_00: Does this sound like the Jazz are getting set for success here?
4:45
SPEAKER_00: I mean Or at least getting the same shake that the 76ers are getting.
4:48
SPEAKER_01: They're definitely not getting a 76er shake.
4:50
SPEAKER_01: Uh that that's pretty obvious there, but the Jazz never are.
4:53
SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
4:53
SPEAKER_01: Like it doesn't, it doesn't really matter how you go about it.
4:56
SPEAKER_01: The Jazz are never gonna get a 76er shake or a LeBron James team shake anywhere.
5:01
SPEAKER_01: Um true.
5:02
SPEAKER_01: I do love that the Jazz get a couple of games against the Grizzlies, the Grizzlies, and the Pelicans uh before the before the Lakers do come to town on October 25th, though.
5:09
SPEAKER_01: Um I'm really kind of curious to see how Jazz fans react to Walker Kessler.
5:14
SPEAKER_01: I think I I think I'm I'm assuming it'll be pretty positive.
5:18
SPEAKER_01: I mean, I don't I'm not really sure.
5:20
SPEAKER_01: I mean, I know between you and I, like I don't think we have anything against Walker.
5:24
SPEAKER_01: Um you know, he he kind of went went and thought his services deserved top dollar, and then he went out and found a team willing to pay top dollar.
5:30
SPEAKER_01: You know, luckily we kind of had a front office that was uh they they tendered a deal to make sure that that was beneficial to the jazz as well.
5:37
SPEAKER_01: So very true.
5:38
SPEAKER_01: Uh that that was a good thing.
5:39
SPEAKER_01: But uh that first game against the Spurs on on October 28th, that's the first real test.
5:45
SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
5:45
SPEAKER_01: That's that's when we find out what this team's made of.
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SPEAKER_01: If if they're really um everything that we're dreaming, that that game is gonna tell a lot about this team.
5:54
SPEAKER_01: So it's it's really exciting.
5:55
SPEAKER_01: You know, obviously Victor Weminyama's the real deal, and this this Spurs team is really good.
6:00
SPEAKER_01: Uh, so I'm I'm excited to see kind of how Coach Hardy, how he schemes against this, right?
6:05
SPEAKER_01: How he how he's going to get players involved, how the offense is gonna look, you know, how do you get rebounds against a really good Spurs team that has Victor Wemanyama who's gonna gobble up a bunch of them?
6:15
SPEAKER_01: Um luckily it's gonna be a home game, and you know, Delta Center will be it'll be going.
6:20
SPEAKER_01: You know, there there's no there's no concerns there.
6:23
SPEAKER_01: So I think that matchup is gonna tell a lot.
6:25
SPEAKER_01: And and that's probably the one that I'm most excited for, you know, looking at the early schedule because it's gonna it's gonna really tell us how the season could look.
6:33
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, no, I have to agree with you, man.
6:34
SPEAKER_00: When I first saw that, when it was first brought to my attention again, appreciate it.
6:37
SPEAKER_00: Subscriber brought this subject us to up to us.
6:40
SPEAKER_00: Uh again, always let us know what you guys want to talk about, especially during the dog days of August, when there's not a whole lot talking about the jazz going on.
6:46
SPEAKER_00: So uh we definitely want to get interact with you guys and actually talk about the subject you guys want to hear about.
6:51
SPEAKER_00: So thanks for bringing this one up.
6:53
SPEAKER_00: Um yeah, so on this one here, I'd have to agree with you, man.
6:56
SPEAKER_00: While it does kind of, I mean, yeah, we're facing the best team in the West three times in the first month.
7:01
SPEAKER_00: Not ideal.
7:02
SPEAKER_00: But again, there's a whole bunch of other, you know, softball type teams out there that we're gonna be facing as well.
7:08
SPEAKER_00: I mean, the Grizzlies are gonna be good, you know.
7:10
SPEAKER_00: They're not gonna be, you know, a I don't see them being the bottom of the West team this year, uh, as far as the Grizzlies are concerned, but they're definitely not gonna be better than Utah.
7:18
SPEAKER_00: Uh the clip the Lakers definitely not gonna be better than Utah.
7:21
SPEAKER_00: Uh there's facing a lot of teams I definitely think that the the Jazz are going to be ahead of when it's all said and done in the conference.
7:27
SPEAKER_00: So yeah, while overall it does kind of look interesting that we face them three times uh that soon, uh, and again twice within two weeks of each other.
7:36
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you know, it is kind of uh interesting, and one on a difficult road trip too.
7:40
SPEAKER_00: So but again, I don't necessarily think it's anything necessarily sliding, and I don't think it's really gonna hurt Utah's chances of coming out of the gate strong.
7:47
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and I I I like it because I'm I'm all for some must-see basketball early in the season.
7:53
SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
7:53
SPEAKER_01: Like it's it's nice to know that you have a team that's going to be you're gonna be playing against a team that's going to be playing or could be playing for it all.
8:02
SPEAKER_01: And you get to see how we stack up to that.
8:05
SPEAKER_01: And you know, the schedule's not the schedule's not crazy tough.
8:08
SPEAKER_01: Like there there is some tough games in there, but that's just the NBA, you know.
8:12
SPEAKER_01: And I don't know.
8:14
SPEAKER_01: I I think it'll be really good for the Jazz.
8:16
SPEAKER_01: I'm I'm so excited.
8:17
SPEAKER_01: Like when you start seeing some of the schedule releases and stuff coming out, it's like, okay, Jazz basketball's almost back, man.
8:22
SPEAKER_01: You know, we're we're just a couple months away.
8:23
SPEAKER_00: So yeah, and another good thing is that the Utah Jazz are not in the top five of teams that are dealing with back-to-backs or in the top five of teams that are dealing with three games and four nights.
8:32
SPEAKER_01: So which is which is a nice change because the Jazz have got the short end of the stick on a lot of those for the last few years.
8:36
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and I think I think that's it's funny because they say they don't treat any teams differently, but when you know that the Jazz are tanking, you don't got any issues.
8:44
SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
8:45
SPEAKER_01: They're gonna be rotating through lineups and playing younger guys, and it's just not as big of a deal.
8:49
SPEAKER_01: So hopefully some of that does kind of come into play, knowing that we have guys that you know we we have star power on our team and and and it deserves to be scheduled out like star power.
8:59
SPEAKER_00: So for sure, for sure.
9:00
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I think it says a lot about it.
9:02
SPEAKER_00: 100% agree on that one.
9:03
SPEAKER_00: Speaking of teams that are uh, you know, vying for the playoffs, but probably aren't gonna make it this year.
9:07
SPEAKER_00: Not saying our jazz are them, but you know, we're definitely playing a lot of those teams that aren't gonna be playoff contenders this year.
9:13
SPEAKER_00: Uh, let's go ahead and talk about another team that's not technically gonna be a playoff team this year, AJ.
9:16
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, absolutely.
9:17
SPEAKER_01: I mean, the next thing we kind of wanted to talk about is uh the NBA's longest-running investigation, and it's uh into the LA Clippers and Kawhi Leonard.
9:25
SPEAKER_01: So uh it kind of took a major turn.
9:26
SPEAKER_01: ESPN reported that uh the NBA has found no evidence that Clippers owner Steve Ballmer secretly funneled money to Leonard through team sponsors to get around the salary cap.
9:35
SPEAKER_01: So the investigation kind of shifted to whether the Clippers broke league rules, you know, by connecting Leonard with companies or you know what like what actually happened.
9:47
SPEAKER_01: So the story just kind of keeps coming back to us, man.
9:49
SPEAKER_01: So I mean, what are your thoughts and how do you how do you think this kind of affects the Utah Jazz?
9:53
SPEAKER_00: Well, first of all, it does mean that the big markets don't have to play the same game or get the same rules that we do.
9:59
SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
10:00
SPEAKER_00: I mean, because let's go back to the year 2000.
10:02
SPEAKER_00: The NBA did strip the T-Wolves of five of their first round draft picks, as well as fining them$3.5 million when uh they did something similar with Joe Smith, underpaying him and promising a bigger future payday uh to help circumvent some of the salary cap rules.
10:18
SPEAKER_00: This isn't paying somebody under the table.
10:20
SPEAKER_00: This is like hush, hush, don't worry, we'll get you on your next contract.
10:22
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
10:23
SPEAKER_00: That got fined$3.5 million in the year 2000, which would be closer to what, six, seven million this right around now?
10:30
SPEAKER_00: Easily.
10:31
SPEAKER_00: And yeah, five first-round draft picks.
10:33
SPEAKER_00: That's not a slap on the wrist, dude.
10:35
SPEAKER_00: That is big time penalties, you know.
10:38
SPEAKER_00: And the fact that the Clippers are saying, and I quote this, uh, the fact that the player has has an endorsement relationship uh with a company that also does business with the team is not evidence of salary cap circumvention.
10:50
SPEAKER_00: Okay, that's a quote directly from the Clippers organization.
10:53
SPEAKER_01: Okay, I know exactly where you're going with this, too.
10:55
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
10:55
SPEAKER_00: In 2015, AJ, the Clippers were fined$250,000 for violating the anti-circumvention rules that were when they presented DeAndre Jordan with an un unauthorized third-party endorsement deal during his free agency.
11:11
SPEAKER_00: So, yeah, man, I gotta say, I just okay.
11:15
SPEAKER_00: For me, it just kind of definitely says that the richest owners in the NBA get to get to play by different rules, right?
11:21
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
11:22
SPEAKER_00: Um, obviously, we're gonna be talking about that a little bit later when it comes to to Mark Walters and how that worked out.
11:28
SPEAKER_00: Um, and but yeah, these these rich teams and these rich markets definitely get to play by different rules when it comes to these kind of things when they get in trouble for something.
11:36
SPEAKER_00: And this is kind of what I want to get into.
11:38
SPEAKER_00: The NBA and ESPN, obviously, the NBA has ESPN in their back pocket.
11:44
SPEAKER_00: They had their talking heads, you know, come at the Utah Jazz for tanking, calling it an embarrassment to the league.
11:53
SPEAKER_00: Not all teams that are tanking got were treated as egregiously as the Utah Jazz were.
12:00
SPEAKER_01: Not at all.
12:00
SPEAKER_00: And they did this for both seasons, uh, both prior and after, coming into this year.
12:05
SPEAKER_00: Now you have everything you need, with the exception of a signed confession from the owner of the Clippers themselves, um, that there were endorsements made to get him on to get around the salary cap.
12:20
SPEAKER_00: But it was the Utah Jazz that were the team that was embarrassing the league for two years.
12:25
SPEAKER_00: It was the Utah Jazz that caused the league to change the rules in the draft.
12:29
SPEAKER_00: The league, in my opinion, owes the Utah Jazz an apology for pointing the finger for at them for all the years that they were allowed to do what was within the rules.
12:39
SPEAKER_00: And the Clippers are now getting away with it and having nothing more than a slap on the wrist.
12:43
SPEAKER_00: To me, AJ, it is just shameful.
12:47
SPEAKER_01: Oh, it is.
12:48
SPEAKER_01: It is.
12:49
SPEAKER_01: Uh to add to the next layer, did you see that the NBA is actually disputing the ESPN report?
12:54
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
12:55
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I heard this.
12:56
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so the league released a statement saying that ESPN's article regarding the LA Clippers investigation, for which the NBA declined to come to cooperate, contains numerous and significant inaccuracies and went on to say that the results in this matter will be made clear once the investigation is concluded.
13:13
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I love how they didn't mention anything specific.
13:15
SPEAKER_00: No, no, no, no, no, no.
13:17
SPEAKER_00: Why would you do that?
13:17
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
13:18
SPEAKER_00: No.
13:18
SPEAKER_00: What you did is you leaked the NBA leaked it through ESPN saying, hey, we want you to say this because we want to see what the backlash is going to be.
13:25
SPEAKER_00: Because if we just let him walk and say, hey, there's no evidence, you know, just him having an endorsement deal with the same company that we have an endorsement deal with is not a violation.
13:34
SPEAKER_00: When it clearly was, because it happened to that exact team 10 years ago, right?
13:39
SPEAKER_00: So to me, that's telling you, like, okay, let's see if they're gonna let us walk on this.
13:44
SPEAKER_00: Let's see what the public perception, the court of public opinion, is gonna let us do here.
13:48
SPEAKER_00: And then by now they're releasing that saying, oh no, no, no, no, wait, wait, wait.
13:51
SPEAKER_00: I think they're just giving themselves a chance to pull that back a little bit.
13:55
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, absolutely.
13:55
SPEAKER_01: They were checking the temperature on it for sure.
13:57
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
13:57
SPEAKER_00: And we're gonna see what happens.
13:58
SPEAKER_00: It's probably gonna be a slap on the wrist, it's not gonna be five first-round draft picks, and it's not gonna be a fine of 3.5 million.
14:04
SPEAKER_00: It's not gonna be anywhere close to that.
14:05
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, no one's gonna get suspended like they did uh for the Timberwolves.
14:09
SPEAKER_01: No, no, not even close.
14:11
SPEAKER_01: It won't even be anywhere near that, dude.
14:12
SPEAKER_01: Matter of fact, what they're gonna do is they're gonna try sorry as hard as they can for the next four or five months to just keep this out of the press, and then they'll they'll release a one-liner saying what the clipper's punishment is.
14:23
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and then somebody will be suspended in the front office saying that they didn't properly communicate it with Steve Bomber.
14:28
SPEAKER_01: So the Kawhi Leonard trade is still technically on the books.
14:31
SPEAKER_01: They did they can't reverse it because they haven't released the NBA hasn't released the findings on it.
14:35
SPEAKER_01: So he could still potentially be traded to Toronto.
14:37
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
14:38
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
14:38
SPEAKER_00: Well, he doesn't it can't yet, because Toronto's like, no, we're not doing this until we know what's going on.
14:42
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, they're not signing any agreement because the NBA was saying, hey, Toronto, you need to sign this paper saying you agree to the trade regardless of what happens with Kawhi, because if he ends up getting, you know, suspended or something from the league, you got to be okay with whatever happens that the Clippers did.
14:56
SPEAKER_00: Right.
14:56
SPEAKER_00: And they're like, no, we're not gonna agree.
14:57
SPEAKER_01: They're like, yeah, no, we're not gonna agree to that for sure.
14:59
SPEAKER_01: But definitely not.
15:00
SPEAKER_01: You know, we do want to see what happens before we before we finalize anything.
15:03
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, which I don't know.
15:04
SPEAKER_00: To me, it just all seems super shady.
15:06
SPEAKER_00: Um, you know, it doesn't just seem buddy, it is super shady.
15:09
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I I don't understand how this is happening while the why the Utah Jazz are just playing by the rules that everybody else did.
15:15
SPEAKER_00: You know, the 76ers did it for over a decade, you know.
15:18
SPEAKER_00: Remember the whole the process, trust the process and the franchise and you know, the the whole thing, and you know, and then when the jazz do it, it's a problem.
15:26
SPEAKER_00: You know, it's just it's a little irritating that something like this is gonna come down to uh basically a slap on the wrist because we don't want the richest owner in the NBA dealing with this.
15:35
SPEAKER_00: Um, and then he's gonna be able to walk his way, walk his way back from it.
15:37
SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
15:38
SPEAKER_00: I don't like it.
15:38
SPEAKER_00: It's dirty, it doesn't make a whole lot of sense for us uh as a small market team, but in the same context there, um yeah, I just think it's just it's just wrong to point your finger at the jazz for doing what they're doing and then let this kind of just all slide.
15:52
SPEAKER_00: Especially after so many teams have done it for so long, dude.
15:55
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, all this is gonna do, dude, is I'm I don't care who they sign.
15:58
SPEAKER_00: Pay them underneath the table, get the sweet guys in here and have them do a non-compete, get the cookie guy in here and do a non-show up uh sponsorship of some kind, you know.
16:06
SPEAKER_00: Let's do it.
16:07
SPEAKER_00: But the part that made it roll out, dude.
16:08
SPEAKER_01: Is this team, this company that Kawhi Leonard was getting this endorsement from did no promotional?
16:14
SPEAKER_01: Like they had they had no advertising budget and now they're bankrupt.
16:18
SPEAKER_00: Well, yeah, well, that's the point.
16:19
SPEAKER_00: Like Steve Ballmer paid that company$25 million to as an investment into that company, knowing they were gonna pay Kawhi Leonard$20 million on the table for the endorsement deal.
16:28
SPEAKER_00: Yep, exactly.
16:29
SPEAKER_00: And it was a non-committed, non-commitment endorsement deal, so a no-show deal.
16:32
SPEAKER_00: So he wasn't gonna do any promotion.
16:34
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, how hard is it to have somebody come out and take a couple of screenshots while he's on the court warming up and put that on your own commercial?
16:39
SPEAKER_00: Boom, done.
16:40
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you know, like it's it's not really that hard.
16:42
SPEAKER_00: They had some celebrity endorsements like uh Leonardo DiCaprio and some other stuff that did do some promotions for this company, and they just didn't do anything with it.
16:49
SPEAKER_00: It would have been so easy just to do that.
16:50
SPEAKER_00: And then also that the the scoreboard, uh, the deco company, that was another one that was a no-show-up sponsorship thing that they did with them too.
16:59
SPEAKER_00: You know, it's just funny.
17:00
SPEAKER_00: They offered this to the Uncle Dennis offered this to the Raptors, the Lakers, and the Clippers.
17:07
SPEAKER_00: The Raptors and the Lakers are like, no, that's that's breaking the rules, man.
17:10
SPEAKER_00: We're not gonna do that.
17:12
SPEAKER_01: Clippers like, we'll do it.
17:13
SPEAKER_01: That's against the rules.
17:14
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, all this for no championships, and they didn't even make it to the conference finals once.
17:19
SPEAKER_00: So that's I think punishment in itself.
17:22
SPEAKER_00: Oh, it definitely is.
17:23
SPEAKER_00: Fair enough.
17:24
SPEAKER_01: They paid all that money for nothing.
17:26
SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
17:26
SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
17:27
SPEAKER_00: Let's go through some of the comments here.
17:28
SPEAKER_00: We got a comment from McKinley saying, I don't mind uh the schedule that we get some cupcake games too.
17:34
SPEAKER_00: Absolutely, we do.
17:35
SPEAKER_00: Uh, we have another comment here.
17:37
SPEAKER_00: Uh, start out to get the ramp up.
17:40
SPEAKER_00: Sorry, can you read that?
17:42
SPEAKER_01: Start out and then get to ramp up, and then we get to see how we compare to the best in the west.
17:46
SPEAKER_00: Agreed.
17:47
SPEAKER_00: Agreed.
17:47
SPEAKER_00: Uh so we don't have as many back-to-backs, but apparently, according to Ben Anderson, they have way more plane rides uh and travel days than most teams.
17:58
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's kind of like a trade-off there, right?
18:00
SPEAKER_00: Of a back-to-back, you know, you're gonna have more more than that.
18:04
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and I think they're okay with that though.
18:06
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's not like they're flying coach, you know.
18:08
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
18:10
SPEAKER_00: These are all chartered flights.
18:12
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's not like they're sitting in the back of a of a Delta 737 flight.
18:15
SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
18:16
SPEAKER_00: With like exactly, yeah.
18:17
SPEAKER_01: They're gonna they're gonna be okay.
18:19
SPEAKER_00: Yep.
18:20
SPEAKER_00: After the tanking uh fine, no way the Jazz would get away with what the Clippers are doing.
18:24
SPEAKER_00: Absolutely not.
18:25
SPEAKER_00: Not a chance.
18:26
SPEAKER_00: Absolutely not.
18:27
SPEAKER_00: Um the problem is firing uh the uh let's see, fighting the Clippers does nothing.
18:31
SPEAKER_00: The only way you can punish Ballmer is taking away draft picks and betting him from the arena for for a season or two.
18:37
SPEAKER_01: That would do it though, especially after you just spent like 400 bazillion dollars to renovate it.
18:42
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and then you made a trade to get all your draft picks back, you know, just to have them be forfeited.
18:46
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that would definitely be So like how does that feel, Steve?
18:49
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and that's that's the reason why we didn't get uh why Kevin Garnett didn't get a championship, man.
18:54
SPEAKER_00: This all happened right around that same time where they lost all their draft picks and forfeited a bunch of uh Yeah, they had nothing.
19:00
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19:02
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20:44
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20:53
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21:17
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21:18
SPEAKER_00: Well, the exercise in futility continues.
21:20
SPEAKER_00: Um, we've had our first AP poll released uh that came out this week.
21:26
SPEAKER_00: And I have to say, man, I am pleasantly surprised to see that Utah got a bid, uh, it got a bit of a nod there.
21:31
SPEAKER_00: Uh we are seeing Utah ranked as the 21st uh team in the top 25 uh prior to the start of the season.
21:39
SPEAKER_00: I gotta say, I'm I'm expect I was expecting them to be closer to the 25, number 25, uh, or even being on the outside looking in to start the season.
21:47
SPEAKER_00: So I think this is quite good for a team that's replaced the head coach, both coordinators during the offseason.
21:52
SPEAKER_00: I mean, what are your thoughts on Utah making it the twenty one out of the top twenty five?
21:56
SPEAKER_01: I mean, I think this shows a ton of respect to Utah.
21:58
SPEAKER_01: I mean, to be completely honest.
21:59
SPEAKER_01: I mean, like Like you mentioned kind of in a previous episode, uh, this team does have a new head coach.
22:04
SPEAKER_01: Or actually, like you just mentioned, new head coach, new offensive coordinator, defensive coordinator.
22:09
SPEAKER_01: These guys are all new to their role, right?
22:11
SPEAKER_01: So this team as it currently sits is relatively unknown for what they're going to look like.
22:16
SPEAKER_01: But what all of these AP voters do know is the brand of Utah football.
22:20
SPEAKER_01: So they know that Morgan Scalley will continue to coach guys to be physical, um, you know, and and really just play up to that Utah standard.
22:28
SPEAKER_01: Um they're they're gonna continue being RSNB, right?
22:31
SPEAKER_01: Relentless, smart, nasty ball hawks.
22:33
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I'm not I'm not upset at all to be 21 in the preseason AP.
22:36
SPEAKER_01: I mean, we we all know rankings don't matter until the CFP rankings come out, but I think this shows that the press kind of had a ton of faith in Utah and and the team that they'll be.
22:47
SPEAKER_01: Um I mean, as Utah fans, we we have a really good feeling that Devin Dampier, Bird Ficklin, um, they're gonna keep pushing this offense up the field.
22:56
SPEAKER_01: Um, the defense will be as good as ever.
22:58
SPEAKER_01: Uh, they're gonna keep doing all the Utah football things.
23:00
SPEAKER_01: So this is uh yeah, this doesn't hurt my feelings at all.
23:04
SPEAKER_01: I think this is this is I'm okay with where the youth landed at 21 in this first a people.
23:07
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, I'm I'm actually, yeah, I think like you said, it's just a nice sign of respect from um from the voters, from the associate press to really kind of put us in that position.
23:15
SPEAKER_00: I think that was great.
23:16
SPEAKER_00: Um so yeah, tons of respect.
23:18
SPEAKER_00: You gotta love it, man.
23:19
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
23:19
SPEAKER_00: Um when it comes to that um 21st position, um, we'll talk about it a little bit more in our next subject here.
23:27
SPEAKER_00: Anything else you want to say on this subject as far as that goes?
23:30
SPEAKER_01: Are you ready to I think I think it's just uh I think this is really interesting because Utah is it's like they're they're the team from last year that that everyone had really high hopes.
23:41
SPEAKER_01: You know, I mean Kyle Whittingham was in the press quite a bit saying how he couldn't leave on on you know the way the season ended.
23:47
SPEAKER_01: The youths came out, had a really strong season, you know, lost a couple of tough ones.
23:51
SPEAKER_01: The only games they needed to win last year were the games they lost.
23:53
SPEAKER_01: They could have lost two other games and they'd have still been in the Big 12 championship.
23:57
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, we talked about that.
23:58
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
23:59
SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
23:59
SPEAKER_01: So I I think it's I think it's really important that that we look at where this team was last year, and I guess I have a ton of faith that they can build on what they had last year, and and I think they can I think it'll be a couple of weeks before before Utah's like top 15.
24:15
SPEAKER_01: So interesting.
24:17
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I like it.
24:18
SPEAKER_00: I like it.
24:19
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, well, there's a few things on that, man.
24:21
SPEAKER_00: Like I said, as far as it goes, there's a ton of respect that's made there uh to put us in the top 25, as well as having us as high as 21, which I think is very uh respectful.
24:31
SPEAKER_00: Um, again, even though it is a sign of respect, there is some backing to that, right?
24:36
SPEAKER_00: I mean, while we did have some turnover when it comes to the coordinators and head coach, it's not like they were all from outside the program, right?
24:42
SPEAKER_00: There was just a there's a lot of internal guys that basically just got kind of got moved into new roles, a lot of return talent.
24:48
SPEAKER_00: Um, yeah, but I again this is to me the whole concept of preseason rankings and and way too early predictions.
24:55
SPEAKER_00: You're not gonna really know anything about this team until three or four weeks into the season.
24:59
SPEAKER_00: So I do think this is all just an exercise and for utility, but I do think it does show us a ton of respect, and we'll get into the rest of the rankings here coming up soon.
25:07
SPEAKER_00: Um yeah, we want to hear from you folks.
25:09
SPEAKER_00: What are your thoughts are in the comments down below?
25:10
SPEAKER_00: Jump in the chat, let us know what your thoughts are.
25:12
SPEAKER_00: Um what do you think about what do you think about the Utah youth being ranked 21st in where we go there?
25:20
SPEAKER_00: Um where do you think uh the U you know you're messing with me, dude?
25:29
SPEAKER_01: I'm clicking on all kinds of stuff.
25:33
SPEAKER_00: Let us know what you think.
25:34
SPEAKER_00: Do you think the number 21 ranking was a good ranking uh for the AP poll right out of the case?
25:38
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25:38
SPEAKER_00: Let us know what your thoughts are in the comments down below.
25:41
SPEAKER_00: Um, I'm not sure if that comment from Greg is about the Utes.
25:44
SPEAKER_00: I think that's about our the jazz.
25:47
SPEAKER_00: Greg list no.
25:48
SPEAKER_00: Um, I do have we have a comment here from Greg.
25:50
SPEAKER_00: Let's jump into that one though.
25:52
SPEAKER_00: Um, I do think that the number 21 ranking is fine.
25:55
SPEAKER_00: Preseason rankings mean super little.
25:57
SPEAKER_00: Um, well, you know, we want to see it's a good thing though, you know.
26:00
SPEAKER_00: It does mean something.
26:01
SPEAKER_00: Jeez, you know, it means nothing.
26:03
SPEAKER_00: And as long as at least we start the season with a number by our name.
26:06
SPEAKER_00: That is very, very true.
26:07
SPEAKER_00: Very, very true.
26:08
SPEAKER_00: You like it, you love it, you love to see it.
26:10
SPEAKER_00: Um, yeah.
26:11
SPEAKER_00: But speaking of which, AJ, um, you know, having a number next to our name, uh, yeah.
26:16
SPEAKER_00: Let's go ahead and break down the top ten, shall we?
26:18
SPEAKER_00: In the AP?
26:19
SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
26:20
SPEAKER_00: Okay, so I'll go in order.
26:21
SPEAKER_00: We got the number one, Ohio State, number two, Oregon, number three, Georgia.
26:26
SPEAKER_00: We got number four, Notre Dame.
26:28
SPEAKER_00: Interesting, interesting.
26:30
SPEAKER_00: Um, number five, Texas, number six, Indiana, seven, Miami, eight, Texas AM, nine, Ole Miss, and ten, Oklahoma.
26:40
SPEAKER_00: Can't help to notice, AJ, but I don't think that we see a big team, a Big 12 team in the top 10.
26:47
SPEAKER_00: Um, what are your thoughts on this?
26:49
SPEAKER_01: So I uh I think this is pretty interesting, um, especially considering we had a Texas Tech team, you know, come out of the Big 12 last year, make the college football playoff, um, really knocked down everybody that was put in front of them, played really tough, hard-nosed football the whole year.
27:05
SPEAKER_01: Um, I don't think this, as much as it looks like this could very well be taken as a slight to the Big 12.
27:11
SPEAKER_01: I don't know if this is a slight to the Big 12 as much as it is a slight directly to Texas Tech.
27:16
SPEAKER_01: That's kind of where I was thinking.
27:17
SPEAKER_01: Oh man, nice.
27:18
SPEAKER_01: Uh I just like it.
27:20
SPEAKER_01: I think I think it tells you that uh, you know, the AP voters don't have a ton of faith in their quarterback situation.
27:24
SPEAKER_01: Losing Brendan Sorsby um in the offseason really hurt their chances for being as good as they were last year, right?
27:30
SPEAKER_01: Like they had they had a quarterback, they had a backup quarterback, now they're relying purely on their backup quarterback from last year to you know kind of roll them through uh an easier Big 12 schedule, but but it's still gonna be a tough college football year.
27:42
SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
27:43
SPEAKER_01: And injuries happen.
27:44
SPEAKER_01: Um that this is gonna be really tough for Texas Tech.
27:47
SPEAKER_01: So I don't think Texas Tech will be bad by any means, but I think it shows you that you know, the AP, they're they're gonna want to see what these guys bring to the table right out the gate, right?
27:56
SPEAKER_01: Like, are they gonna show up and and have an explosive offense?
27:59
SPEAKER_01: Is their defense gonna be as good as it was last year?
28:01
SPEAKER_01: There's there's a lot of things that a lot of these voters are gonna want to see right out the gate to see that Texas Tech is as big of a deal as they kind of initially thought.
28:08
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and what I really like about that also is that we talked about this quite a bit, how BYU and Utah schedule, they don't have to play Texas Tech, and that's you know, making their schedules relatively easy.
28:19
SPEAKER_00: But you also got to flip it around the other way.
28:20
SPEAKER_00: Texas Tech doesn't play the other two best teams in the conference.
28:23
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, they're not playing.
28:24
SPEAKER_00: I think their toughest opponent is Arizona, right?
28:26
SPEAKER_01: But the Big 12, the Big 12 did that by design.
28:29
SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
28:30
SPEAKER_01: I like I sincerely think they did that by design.
28:32
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
28:33
SPEAKER_01: They want they want three teams that could potentially have one loss that could crowd up that top 20.
28:38
SPEAKER_01: And force the situation at multiple teams and just force it, you know what I mean?
28:41
SPEAKER_01: All the way through.
28:41
SPEAKER_01: And you know, we did a video last week on, you know, or was it last week or two weeks ago on the the most important holy war, um, because we think how much how much implications that Utah versus BYU game really does have.
28:52
SPEAKER_00: That has been a long week for you.
28:53
SPEAKER_00: That was last week.
28:54
SPEAKER_01: It was last week, yeah.
28:55
SPEAKER_01: It's been a crazy long week, yeah.
28:57
SPEAKER_01: Um, but I mean I think I think it's kind of the same deal for BYU and Utah, though.
29:00
SPEAKER_01: I mean, I I think both of their rankings kind of show that the AP wants to see something from both of these teams, you know, like the the pre seat the last season hype is only going to get you so far, and then preseason hype can only get you a little bit further.
29:13
SPEAKER_01: Right so at this point, they've got to put it out on the field, make sure that they can do all the things that, you know, kind of as advertised.
29:20
SPEAKER_01: Um, and and but I think with a couple of good solid wins early in the season for both of these teams, and and really even for BYU, a quality loss, even if they lose that game to Notre Dame, um, if it's a nice, tight, close game, which it's guaranteed to be, you know, being that it's at LaBelle Edwards Stadium.
29:36
SPEAKER_01: Like BYU's got a chance in that game for sure.
29:39
SPEAKER_01: No matter like it doesn't matter what numbers buy Notre Dame, yeah, BYU's gonna come and play it.
29:43
SPEAKER_00: So and we've talked about it uh last week too.
29:46
SPEAKER_00: Uh Notre Dame always you know blows a game early in the season, which kind of sets their season, and it could easily be BYU.
29:53
SPEAKER_00: It's a tough place to play.
29:54
SPEAKER_00: Um yeah, and I think it's interesting that they are number four, not number five, as comparative to the coaches' poll.
30:01
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
30:01
SPEAKER_00: So I I thought that was interesting that those drew a switch.
30:03
SPEAKER_00: So the AP is giving Notre Dame a little bit more of a nod there.
30:07
SPEAKER_00: Um, you know, you got BYU at the 14-15 spot, uh, and Texas Tech is at 12.
30:12
SPEAKER_00: So our highest team uh in the conference is ranked at 12.
30:16
SPEAKER_00: Obviously, Utah at 21, Houston is at 23.
30:19
SPEAKER_00: Gotta say, man, it felt good to have at least one Utah team ranked above another team.
30:25
SPEAKER_00: And I think I know, I think you know where I'm going with this one.
30:28
SPEAKER_01: I do.
30:29
SPEAKER_01: I'm I'm pretty sure it's probably um BYU ranked ahead of Alabama.
30:33
SPEAKER_00: No, BYU are ranked ahead of Michigan.
30:35
SPEAKER_01: Oh, against Michigan?
30:36
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, oh, that's even better.
30:38
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
30:38
SPEAKER_00: BYU is ranked above Michigan, uh, which is something you'd love to see.
30:42
SPEAKER_00: It's one spot above it.
30:43
SPEAKER_00: So yeah.
30:44
SPEAKER_00: Uh BYU is in that 14-15 slot, and I believe Michigan is at the 16.
30:48
SPEAKER_00: So uh glad to see that.
30:50
SPEAKER_00: Um, you know, again, no no ill will to, you know Coach Witt, no.
30:54
SPEAKER_00: Coach Witt, not at all.
30:55
SPEAKER_00: But again, he's now uh in a difference conference, he's now the enemy.
30:57
SPEAKER_00: I wish him all the best, but we definitely need to make sure that we're um, you know, seeing that uh Big 12 teams be ranked ahead of that.
31:03
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
31:04
SPEAKER_00: So that's what we want to see.
31:05
SPEAKER_00: I really think that you're right on that, man.
31:06
SPEAKER_00: I don't think necessarily it is a complete slide.
31:08
SPEAKER_00: I don't be read that way, uh, but I think you're spot on that and your analysis there, that it's more of a it's more of a knock towards Texas Tech than it is anything.
31:16
SPEAKER_00: And also I just think that we're just gonna be in a position where they want to see us earn our spots.
31:20
SPEAKER_00: I just think that's it.
31:21
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
31:22
SPEAKER_01: I think it's really nice to see how much kind of college football has leveled out.
31:25
SPEAKER_01: I mean, as much as NIL has kind of hurt this league um because of some of the imbalance in NIL, it has leveled the playing field a ton, right?
31:33
SPEAKER_01: I mean, you you look at there was five teams that received first place votes in the AP, yeah, in the AP polls, which is I mean, kind of crazy.
31:41
SPEAKER_01: You you look back in previous years and you're talking two to three teams max to receive first place votes.
31:46
SPEAKER_01: Um and the voting is still very SEC heavy for the for the AP top 10, right?
31:50
SPEAKER_01: You got shocker.
31:51
SPEAKER_01: You got five teams in the top 10, you got three teams from the Big Ten, and then one ACC team in Miami, and then Notre Dame as the independent.
31:57
SPEAKER_01: So But you if you take it out of the top 15, you look at, you know, you got two teams in the Big 12 in the top 15.
32:03
SPEAKER_01: So I think it it's really nice to see that there is a lot of there's a lot of chance and a lot of opportunity for a lot of these teams to come in with some of these preseason rankings, whether they're AP voters or not.
32:17
SPEAKER_01: Um, a lot of teams are gonna have a chance to go out and show that they can kind of compete for some of these early positions and and and keep winning.
32:23
SPEAKER_01: And um, you know, we we just hope the SEC makes a mess of themselves, and so does a Big Ten.
32:28
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, beat each other up, man.
32:29
SPEAKER_00: Beat each other up.
32:30
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, absolutely.
32:31
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we'll definitely love to see it, man.
32:32
SPEAKER_00: You love to see it.
32:33
SPEAKER_00: It's gonna be good.
32:33
SPEAKER_00: We're gonna follow these rankings there again, just like everybody else who's called following college football before the season starts.
32:38
SPEAKER_00: Oh gosh, it's what two weeks?
32:40
SPEAKER_00: Uh two weeks away.
32:41
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, two weeks away from kickoff.
32:42
SPEAKER_00: Absolutely, yeah.
32:43
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so you very exciting Idaho.
32:46
SPEAKER_00: Super exciting.
32:47
SPEAKER_00: And then when they play a real team the next week, it'll be nice.
32:49
SPEAKER_00: No offense, Idaho.
32:51
SPEAKER_00: Love you guys.
32:51
SPEAKER_00: Um, yeah, folks, we want to hear from you.
32:53
SPEAKER_00: Let us know what your thoughts are in the comments down below.
32:55
SPEAKER_00: Uh, we want to know what your thoughts are when it comes to the schedule with AP rankings again.
33:00
SPEAKER_00: No big 10 Big 12 team in the top 10.
33:03
SPEAKER_00: Uh, we'd love to hear your feedback on that.
33:05
SPEAKER_00: Got another comment here from Greg Hawkins saying, I don't know what it makes what to make of this team yet.
33:10
SPEAKER_00: So way too many unknowns.
33:12
SPEAKER_00: Uh hoping for the best, though.
33:14
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I'm kind of I'm kind of there with you a little bit on that for sure.
33:17
SPEAKER_00: Um a lot of unknowns, but also again, enough familiarity to where again it keeps you like, well, it could be, it still could be good.
33:26
SPEAKER_01: Just enough just enough familiarity to kind of keep it in the front of your mind, right?
33:30
SPEAKER_01: Like, you know, we got Devin Damp here, you know we got some you know, key returning players on defense.
33:35
SPEAKER_01: It's just enough um familiarity to kind of keep you to keep it relevant, to keep this team at the front of your mind.
33:42
SPEAKER_01: It's it's a really exciting time um because I really hope that the Morgan Scaly era kind of kind of starts with a bang.
33:48
SPEAKER_01: You know, they get out there and uh throw the ball up the field more than we've ever seen over the last 20 years of the Kyle Whittingham era.
33:55
SPEAKER_01: I mean that this is the time is now, and you know, we've got an offensive coordinator that's gonna play to his player's strengths.
34:01
SPEAKER_01: You just I'm just staying positive.
34:03
SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
34:04
SPEAKER_01: Like I really think this team can be really good.
34:05
SPEAKER_00: So the ever optimistic Utah fan.
34:08
SPEAKER_00: That's what I do here.
34:10
SPEAKER_00: That's what he does here, everywhere.
34:11
SPEAKER_00: Just so you know.
34:12
SPEAKER_00: You ever hang out with this dude?
34:13
SPEAKER_00: It's it's quite obvious.
34:15
SPEAKER_00: Um, again, folks, we want to hear from you.
34:16
SPEAKER_00: Everything though.
34:17
SPEAKER_01: For the record, I am optimistic about everything.
34:19
SPEAKER_01: Okay, it's not just sports.
34:23
SPEAKER_00: You love it, you love it.
34:24
SPEAKER_00: Uh that's why the show works so much.
34:26
SPEAKER_00: I'm I'm more doom and gloom.
34:27
SPEAKER_01: You're more Oh, you're way more doom and gloom than me.
34:29
SPEAKER_01: You're just like, nope, the sky's fallen.
34:31
SPEAKER_01: Go ahead and shut her down.
34:32
SPEAKER_01: We can shut it down.
34:33
SPEAKER_01: Flip the desk over.
34:34
SPEAKER_01: We're shutting down the podcast.
34:35
SPEAKER_01: This team sucks.
34:38
SPEAKER_00: Love it, love it.
34:39
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34:42
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34:56
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34:59
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35:00
SPEAKER_00: All right, let's go ahead and pivot on over and talk some Major League Baseball.
35:04
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35:11
SPEAKER_00: But first, before we get into the content, folks, we'd like to encourage you to join the conversation in the comments down below.
35:16
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35:23
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35:25
SPEAKER_00: AJ, I just watched Alex Vestia below a lead in Coors Field.
35:31
SPEAKER_00: Oh my gosh.
35:32
SPEAKER_00: That's rough, man.
35:34
SPEAKER_00: It's rough.
35:34
SPEAKER_01: That's rough business being a Dodgers fan.
35:36
SPEAKER_00: It really is.
35:37
SPEAKER_00: It really, really is, AJ.
35:39
SPEAKER_00: Sitting here with my 2024 World Series Championship hat.
35:42
SPEAKER_00: It it really is.
35:43
SPEAKER_00: I think my 2025 is over here somewhere too.
35:45
SPEAKER_01: Where's my 2021 World Series?
35:48
SPEAKER_01: I don't have one.
35:48
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
35:49
SPEAKER_00: Didn't you say you don't get to count that one because you weren't necessarily watching?
35:52
SPEAKER_01: That doesn't matter.
35:52
SPEAKER_01: I'm a Braves fan now.
35:54
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
35:54
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
35:55
SPEAKER_00: You were telling me that you don't really get to rep it because you weren't watching the games.
35:59
SPEAKER_00: You know, I'm over it now.
36:01
SPEAKER_01: I've got enough invested.
36:02
SPEAKER_01: It's pretty much the same team.
36:03
SPEAKER_01: No.
36:04
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
36:05
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
36:06
SPEAKER_00: So yeah, after watching that, AJ, I just got to ask you one question, man.
36:08
SPEAKER_00: Are the Dodgers cooked?
36:10
SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah.
36:12
SPEAKER_01: No, no, I don't know.
36:13
SPEAKER_01: We've had the the big thing is we've had multiple conversations, right?
36:16
SPEAKER_01: And I think a lot of our conversations about the Dodgers.
36:21
SPEAKER_00: That is just hard-hitting a sports analysis right there.
36:25
SPEAKER_00: I love that.
36:26
SPEAKER_00: Oh yeah.
36:26
SPEAKER_00: Oh yeah.
36:27
SPEAKER_00: No, no.
36:28
SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
36:30
SPEAKER_00: Okay, go ahead.
36:31
SPEAKER_00: Sorry, dear.
36:32
SPEAKER_01: You guys are welcome for my fine fine assessment of if the Dodgers are cooked.
36:37
SPEAKER_01: But I mean, a lot of the conversation based around it is like, how long can these guys keep it up?
36:41
SPEAKER_01: Right?
36:41
SPEAKER_01: They aren't getting any younger.
36:43
SPEAKER_01: And like you start breaking it down.
36:44
SPEAKER_01: And some of these players that this team is counting on to really play well and you know invest the money that they've invested into this.
36:52
SPEAKER_01: Um, they're either right in their prime or you know, maybe maybe sliding past their prime just a little bit.
36:57
SPEAKER_01: And then you go and look at some of the ages, and you know, Shoheo Tani's 32.
37:00
SPEAKER_01: That's great age, right in prime.
37:02
SPEAKER_01: You know, bet Mookie Betts is the same thing.
37:04
SPEAKER_01: Freddie Freeman at 36 is your your tail end of your prime, right?
37:08
SPEAKER_01: You're probably a little past your prime at 36.
37:10
SPEAKER_01: You know, T.
37:11
SPEAKER_01: Oscar's 33, Max Muncie's 35, Blake Snell's 33, Tommy Edmund.
37:16
SPEAKER_01: Is it Tommy Edmund?
37:17
SPEAKER_01: Mm-hmm.
37:17
SPEAKER_01: Okay, I've I knew everyone besides that one.
37:19
SPEAKER_01: All of a sudden I got scared.
37:20
SPEAKER_01: He's 31.
37:21
SPEAKER_01: So I mean, you don't you don't you're not gonna worry so much about you know Roki Sasaki or you know Yamamoto, those guys are 24, 27.
37:27
SPEAKER_01: But I don't know, man.
37:29
SPEAKER_01: What do you what are your thoughts?
37:30
SPEAKER_01: Do you think this team's gonna be too old to compete for the for the foreseeable future?
37:33
SPEAKER_00: Oh man, it's it's gonna be interesting, dude.
37:35
SPEAKER_00: Let's go ahead and start with uh Mookie, right?
37:37
SPEAKER_00: 33.
37:38
SPEAKER_00: You mentioned him in there, right?
37:39
SPEAKER_00: 33 Absolutely, yeah.
37:40
SPEAKER_00: Uh so 13 years in the league, uh first full uh first full year it's short, and again, again at age 33.
37:48
SPEAKER_00: His OPS uh plus is below average at 92.
37:51
SPEAKER_00: Age definitely is a factor here.
37:54
SPEAKER_00: Uh, you don't switch from the to the most demanding position on the field outside of catcher and not have that catch up to you and not have that impact you.
38:02
SPEAKER_00: Uh his average war is 7.7 since 2024.
38:07
SPEAKER_00: It has been under five.
38:09
SPEAKER_00: So there is definitely a decline in his game for sure.
38:12
SPEAKER_00: Father Time is undefeated.
38:13
SPEAKER_00: He definitely is going to be one of those guys uh that you're gonna see some issues there with.
38:18
SPEAKER_00: Uh last year was the first year that we didn't see uh see him um in the postseason since 2022 perform.
38:26
SPEAKER_00: Um he didn't play well last year's postseason, and again, um he was playing at short.
38:32
SPEAKER_00: So seems to me that there needs to be a move back to second base uh or somewhere where it's less strenuous, in my opinion.
38:39
SPEAKER_00: Uh he's been great defensively, uh, but his bat has just disappeared ever since he's moved over to that position.
38:44
SPEAKER_00: Lightning is load on the defensive end may prolong his career and keep him as a you know as a legit um player in his prime, like you mentioned, for a little bit longer.
38:54
SPEAKER_00: Freddie Freeman, he's 36, will be 37 by the time the postseason starts.
38:59
SPEAKER_00: Uh you look at his stats and you think, okay, well, Freddie Freeman's playing great, right?
39:02
SPEAKER_00: OPS plus of 133, his average is 302, right?
39:07
SPEAKER_00: Why are you saying Freddie Freeman's, you know, getting past?
39:09
SPEAKER_00: Well, here's the thing the power's just not there, dude.
39:12
SPEAKER_00: It is just not there.
39:13
SPEAKER_00: He's become more of a contact hitter.
39:14
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, home runs, doubles, all down.
39:17
SPEAKER_00: Um, before the Rocky series, he almost went a month without an extra base hit.
39:21
SPEAKER_00: Oh, that's brutal.
39:22
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
39:23
SPEAKER_00: So batting 302, but uh all singles, dude.
39:25
SPEAKER_00: All singles.
39:26
SPEAKER_00: He's 36, but with that ankle, he's playing more like 46.
39:29
SPEAKER_00: So you should see him when he has to make a quick pivot play.
39:32
SPEAKER_00: You can time it with a sundial.
39:34
SPEAKER_00: It's just ridiculous.
39:35
SPEAKER_00: Uh, he still is ranked number one in fielding percentage in the National League.
39:41
SPEAKER_00: Did you just say that?
39:44
SPEAKER_01: You can time it with a sundial.
39:48
SPEAKER_00: It's not even in my notes.
39:50
SPEAKER_00: Um, but yeah, so again, he's just but he is leading the league uh in field goal percentage in the national league, which is quite interesting.
39:57
SPEAKER_00: Uh AJ Brownie points, can you name the other two first baggers uh that are next to him, number two and number three, as far as first bad uh first base uh fielding percentages go.
40:07
SPEAKER_00: First base fielding percentages?
40:09
SPEAKER_00: Yep, number one is Freddie Freeman, who's number two.
40:12
SPEAKER_01: Matt Olson.
40:13
SPEAKER_00: No.
40:14
unknown: Damn it.
40:14
SPEAKER_00: He's number three.
40:15
SPEAKER_00: Who's number two?
40:17
SPEAKER_00: Um you're never gonna get this.
40:22
SPEAKER_00: So I don't know why I'm asking.
40:23
SPEAKER_00: Greg Hawkins, channel engine, jump in, buddy.
40:25
SPEAKER_00: Let's hear it.
40:26
SPEAKER_00: Let's hear it.
40:27
SPEAKER_00: Uh, it's actually gonna be Michael Bush, first baseman for the You're correct.
40:31
SPEAKER_00: I would not have gotten that.
40:32
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
40:32
SPEAKER_00: Former Dodger, by the way, Dodger Prospect.
40:34
SPEAKER_01: How did I deal with Matt Olson, though?
40:36
SPEAKER_00: Pretty good.
40:36
SPEAKER_00: Pretty good.
40:37
SPEAKER_00: Uh that's literally probably the only first baseman you know the first name of other than Freddie Friedman, but that's that is correct.
40:42
SPEAKER_01: That is correct.
40:43
SPEAKER_00: Tao's been getting worse um every single year since he signed his new contract.
40:47
SPEAKER_00: Um he's actually been trying uh more to not necessarily it's not necessarily that he's getting bad, but he's also not putting in a whole lot of effort.
40:54
SPEAKER_00: Uh, I think like he's more trying to not get injured versus you know just simply it being age is the issue.
41:00
SPEAKER_01: That's where we're at now.
41:00
SPEAKER_01: We're like, if I can just not get hurt and play the whole season, I should be fine.
41:03
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, well, he's done, he's has missed like 50 games a year, every single year since coming to the Dodgers.
41:08
SPEAKER_00: So I do see him kind of doing that, like light, you know, lightening it up a little bit uh to make sure that he's not doing it.
41:14
SPEAKER_00: Now the Dodgers lost eight in a row prior to uh the start of 2024, right?
41:19
SPEAKER_00: This is something we hear quite a bit, right?
41:21
SPEAKER_00: Uh well this happens to the Dodgers every single year.
41:24
SPEAKER_00: It happened last year, eight in a row towards the end of the 2024 season.
41:28
SPEAKER_00: They lost the series season uh to the Brewers again this year, but it's not a big deal because they got swept by them before going to the postseason last year.
41:36
SPEAKER_00: You know, I know, right?
41:38
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but this year just feels different, AJ.
41:41
SPEAKER_00: Um, I wouldn't be as worried about this if our quote unquote young players um like Tucker, like if his struggles weren't there and the bullpen wasn't terrible, this wouldn't be such a big deal.
41:51
SPEAKER_00: It just really feels different.
41:53
SPEAKER_00: And I think it's a fair statement to say that this team is getting a bit long in the tooth.
41:58
SPEAKER_00: They have the oldest position player group in Major League Baseball, and we'll see if they can turn it on in the postseason once again.
42:04
SPEAKER_00: But I don't know, man.
42:05
SPEAKER_00: It just feels different.
42:07
SPEAKER_00: I don't see Snell and Yamamoto uh competing against each other for a complete game in the postseason this year.
42:13
SPEAKER_00: I don't see Shohei Otani going seven innings without giving up a run while striking out ten and hitting three home runs in a single game.
42:20
SPEAKER_00: By the way, I don't think people talk about that game nearly enough when he pitched against the Brewers.
42:25
SPEAKER_00: Seven innings, no runs, striking out ten, and hitting three home runs all in the same game.
42:30
SPEAKER_00: Who was that?
42:31
SPEAKER_00: Shoe Otani.
42:32
SPEAKER_01: Oh, that's ridiculous.
42:34
SPEAKER_00: How is that not the greatest uh performance in baseball history?
42:38
SPEAKER_00: Why is his other game against Miami in the regular season considered a higher?
42:43
SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
42:43
SPEAKER_00: I just thought that was interesting.
42:44
SPEAKER_00: I think it's pretty interesting.
42:45
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and you know, don't get me started on Kyle Tucker, right?
42:48
SPEAKER_00: I mean, this guy literally, you know, is just doing everything he can.
42:50
SPEAKER_00: Uh he's plays fine on the road, but once he's at home, it's really, really tough.
42:55
SPEAKER_00: He doesn't like LA.
42:56
SPEAKER_00: Does not, I mean, he actually is does well in LA when he's not on the Dodgers.
43:00
SPEAKER_00: He has a career batting percentage of like 280 in Dodger Stadium when he's not on the team.
43:05
SPEAKER_00: Right.
43:05
SPEAKER_00: You know, so there's just, you know, so you know, for me, it is quite obvious that this team is getting older, and everybody will come in and say, oh, well, you know, the Dodgers will just turn it on when it comes close to the postseason.
43:19
SPEAKER_00: At some point, that's not gonna work anymore.
43:21
SPEAKER_00: You're starting to see all three of their main core start to deteriorate a little bit.
43:26
SPEAKER_00: Otani is not performing at his normal level, um, you know, still a front runner for an MVP uh next to PCA.
43:34
SPEAKER_00: Um, you know, it's if people are like, oh my gosh, why are you even talking about that?
43:38
SPEAKER_00: Like, how is Shohei falling off?
43:39
SPEAKER_00: You're like, well, you know, when it comes to Shohei, it's not really Shohei-esque.
43:43
SPEAKER_00: You know?
43:44
SPEAKER_00: So there's a lot of that, and there's, you know, again, just the bullpen.
43:48
SPEAKER_00: It's very, very shaky and also very, very old.
43:50
SPEAKER_00: I think it's a fair assessment for anybody who's watching Dodger Baseball to look at this team and think maybe they aren't getting a little too old.
43:56
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
43:57
SPEAKER_00: A little scary.
43:58
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
43:59
SPEAKER_01: I mean, I think.
44:00
SPEAKER_01: I think it's still a scary team for the next one to two seasons.
44:04
SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
44:05
SPEAKER_01: Because a lot of these guys are still in at least on tail end of their prime years.
44:10
SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
44:11
SPEAKER_01: But the problem is it's not like they're under contract for two more years.
44:15
SPEAKER_01: A lot of these guys are under contract for the next four or five years, right?
44:18
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
44:18
SPEAKER_00: And they have over a billion dollars dedicated to them after the fact, too.
44:22
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
44:23
SPEAKER_01: So it's like they're getting paid the rest of their life to be a Dodger.
44:25
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
44:26
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
44:26
SPEAKER_00: Which would you know would be tough, right?
44:28
SPEAKER_00: Tough life.
44:28
SPEAKER_01: I mean, it's it's putting all the chips in the middle, you know.
44:30
SPEAKER_01: We've said it plenty of times on this show.
44:32
SPEAKER_01: Like the Dodgers are putting all the chips in the middle to win now.
44:36
SPEAKER_01: And you know, getting players that they think can help them win now.
44:39
SPEAKER_01: And as long as you win now, no one's gonna care.
44:43
SPEAKER_00: Right.
44:43
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
44:43
SPEAKER_01: But but if the Dodgers miss, you know, and misstep and don't win this year, where everyone's like, well, they I mean look at all everything that they've spent.
44:52
SPEAKER_01: On you know, here comes the onslaught.
44:55
SPEAKER_00: Right.
44:55
SPEAKER_01: That that that's when you as a Dodgers fan is really gonna because hey, nobody can say shit right now, right?
45:00
SPEAKER_01: Like you can you can talk about it all you want, but you can say the Dodgers did this and that, but they they've also won the last two World Series.
45:07
SPEAKER_01: So there's no nobody nobody has any skin in the game.
45:11
SPEAKER_01: So at this point, as long as they win, they're fine.
45:16
SPEAKER_01: If they don't win, that's that's when you as a Dodgers fan's gonna hear it.
45:19
SPEAKER_00: Oh yeah, gotta put it all into yeah, exactly.
45:21
SPEAKER_00: Put it all in there to three-peed.
45:22
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it doesn't matter you won back to back, you know, as long if you don't three-peed, then you got that waste, all that money was wasteful, right?
45:29
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
45:30
SPEAKER_00: I would argue that Mookie's contract over already paid for itself when they won the 2020 and the 2024 World Series.
45:35
SPEAKER_00: I think Mookie's contract paid for itself after that.
45:37
SPEAKER_00: Right, you got it.
45:38
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I think uh the Dodgers were the first team in baseball history to earn a billion dollars in one year.
45:43
SPEAKER_01: That's so that's insanity, dude.
45:45
SPEAKER_00: So in one year they pay for Shoei Otani's deferred contract, yeah.
45:48
SPEAKER_00: And then with interest, right?
45:50
SPEAKER_00: So like it's it's really funny when you think about it, but all reality, yeah, you want them to win it.
45:55
SPEAKER_00: You want them to do, you want them to three peat, you want them to be ahead of you, or else I don't, you know, or else it's almost this all this spending is you know not really worth it, right?
46:02
SPEAKER_00: So you mortgage your future and they're gonna continue to do it.
46:05
SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna continue to do it.
46:06
SPEAKER_00: I love it, gotta love it.
46:08
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, want to hear from you folks, let us know what your thoughts are in the comments down below.
46:10
SPEAKER_00: What do you think about the Dodgers?
46:11
SPEAKER_00: Are they getting too old?
46:12
SPEAKER_00: We want to hear from you.
46:13
SPEAKER_00: Let us know what your thoughts are.
46:14
SPEAKER_00: Uh, we got uh let's see, known Yamamoto needs some time off.
46:18
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, this guy's literally been pitching for like five years straight.
46:22
SPEAKER_00: Uh it's absolutely insane.
46:24
SPEAKER_00: Scroll up.
46:24
SPEAKER_00: Um, we got good questions here.
46:27
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so is this in our next subject though?
46:29
SPEAKER_00: Oh, it is, absolutely.
46:30
SPEAKER_00: So we'll get back to the code.
46:31
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we're gonna get to the Walter conversation for sure.
46:34
SPEAKER_00: Uh got this comment here from Greg Hawkins, Kyle Tucker.
46:37
SPEAKER_00: Hello, well.
46:38
SPEAKER_00: Um, yeah, I think we just traded like the worst players on our team, and we just, you know, the Cubs gave us Kyle Tucker.
46:44
SPEAKER_00: We gave him uh Michael Conforto, you know.
46:47
SPEAKER_00: So yeah, except you know we only paid Conforto 16 million, not 60 million.
46:52
SPEAKER_00: Uh the Dodgers have a three.
46:54
SPEAKER_00: Maybe they misheard it on the phone.
46:56
SPEAKER_00: Maybe they heard it.
46:57
SPEAKER_00: I think that's probably it.
46:57
SPEAKER_00: The contract was just signed weird, right?
46:59
SPEAKER_00: Dodgers have like the second or third best record in baseball, and Darren is concerned about the team.
47:07
SPEAKER_00: It's a fair statement there, Greg, but honestly, if you're watching the Dodger games, you know where my concern is coming from.
47:13
SPEAKER_00: And yes, it actually is the uh third best record in Major League Baseball because right now the Brewers and the Rays have a better record than they are.
47:19
SPEAKER_00: And if they do not pull their, you know, we'll tell themselves here in Colorado, uh, that's not gonna do any better for sure.
47:27
SPEAKER_00: Um, we want to hear from you folks.
47:28
SPEAKER_00: Let us know what your thoughts are in the comments down below.
47:30
SPEAKER_00: Uh, we also have another comment here from uh friends of the channel.
47:34
SPEAKER_00: Teddy Price Tucker is in his head.
47:36
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I definitely agree, man.
47:38
SPEAKER_00: I think uh, you know, Eric Carroll says a lot of things on the on the broadcast, which I don't really agree with.
47:43
SPEAKER_00: Uh savant on the uh pitch challenge, though, by the way.
47:47
SPEAKER_00: He's got it down to a science.
47:49
SPEAKER_00: But uh I think he needs a blow, dude.
47:50
SPEAKER_00: I think he needs to take a couple days off, fake an injury, and go down to Arizona, you know, like uh Carol said, and just work something out.
47:58
SPEAKER_00: Try and figure it out.
47:59
SPEAKER_00: Because, you know, again, we only just not play baseball for a couple of days.
48:03
SPEAKER_00: We only care, yeah, pull an Acon.
48:04
SPEAKER_00: You know, uh Adrian Gonzalez did that for the Dodgers once when his swing wasn't right, sat for three or four games, and then came back and crushed it.
48:11
SPEAKER_01: So I thought you said pull an Acon, like the rapper.
48:14
SPEAKER_01: No, like Akon in Young G Z.
48:17
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, AJ.
48:18
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's a sultry voice.
48:19
SPEAKER_01: Keep going.
48:20
SPEAKER_00: Keep going.
48:21
SPEAKER_00: Uh, but yeah, no, it's um, yeah, I think it would benefit him.
48:24
SPEAKER_00: But honestly, again, as long as he can fix it before the playoffs, again, like I told you before we went live last week, spring training is really long for a Dodger fan.
48:32
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it really is.
48:34
SPEAKER_00: Um, all right, so let's go ahead and move in uh to the next subject we want to talk about, AJ.
48:38
SPEAKER_00: Let's go ahead and talk about.
48:39
SPEAKER_00: Oh gosh, I went on the wrong page here on our other thing here.
48:43
SPEAKER_00: What is going on?
48:44
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we're all over the place.
48:46
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so you guys want to talk about uh talk Mark Walters?
48:48
SPEAKER_00: Let's go ahead and talk about Walters.
48:49
SPEAKER_00: Let's go ahead and hit these comments real quick.
48:50
SPEAKER_00: Do you want to do that first?
48:52
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
48:53
SPEAKER_00: Because that that's those are some nice questions that lead us in.
48:55
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so we got this one here from uh McKinley Cutler.
48:58
SPEAKER_00: I'm kind of wondering what the Walters situation uh mine forced what kind of wondering if this Walters situation might force the MLB to trade a lot of rules around contracts.
49:09
SPEAKER_01: I mean, they have so much of these contracts deferred.
49:12
SPEAKER_01: What happens if Walters can't pay?
49:13
SPEAKER_01: And then who ends up holding the bag and gets screwed if the Dodgers and Walter default or can't pay out the deferred player contracts?
49:21
SPEAKER_00: Great question.
49:22
SPEAKER_00: So we'll start here.
49:23
SPEAKER_00: Walters only owns 15% of the team personally, the rest of it is owned by the Guggenheim group.
49:28
SPEAKER_00: Uh the Guggenheim group is actually has set aside the funds.
49:32
SPEAKER_00: Again, they just made a billion dollars last year alone.
49:35
SPEAKER_00: Uh, so they are one of the most profitable teams in Major League Baseball.
49:39
SPEAKER_00: And they do have to sandbag that money.
49:41
SPEAKER_00: They're not allowed just to have it sit and just say, Oh, yeah, don't worry, we got it, we'll pay for it.
49:45
SPEAKER_00: Anytime you defer money, you have to have that money.
49:48
SPEAKER_00: You've got to show that it's available in a bank.
49:51
SPEAKER_00: It's got to be in escrow.
49:52
SPEAKER_00: So that money is there already.
49:54
SPEAKER_00: They don't have access to it, they can't touch it.
49:56
SPEAKER_00: That money is just deferred, right?
49:57
SPEAKER_00: So those deferred contracts are going to be paid out just fine.
50:01
SPEAKER_00: Um, again, if he has to sell his percentage of it, which again we'll get into here in a minute, um, whether or not that happens or not, uh, it's not going to impact this team because again, the Guggenheim group itself owns it, not just Mark Walters.
50:15
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, absolutely.
50:16
SPEAKER_01: So let's break down a little bit about the Walt about the Mark Walter situation for you guys that don't know.
50:21
SPEAKER_01: Um, billionaire Mark Walter, who is the CEO of Guggenheim Partners and um also one of the owners of the Dodgers, or the primary owner of the Dodgers, right?
50:30
SPEAKER_01: He is currently under investigation for federal loan fraud with the Department of Justice and the SEC.
50:35
SPEAKER_01: Um, he was allegedly funneling undisclosed related party insurance funds into his other sports and business ventures.
50:42
SPEAKER_01: So uh a little timeline.
50:44
SPEAKER_01: Last September, federal agents, federal agents seized Walter's cell phone and laptop.
50:49
SPEAKER_01: Um, and then in February Wait, wait, hold on that one for a second.
50:52
SPEAKER_00: Did you hear how it happened?
50:53
SPEAKER_01: No.
50:54
SPEAKER_00: They went on the plane.
50:56
SPEAKER_00: The FBI raided his plane and took his laptop and phone.
51:01
SPEAKER_01: That's actually legendary, dude.
51:02
SPEAKER_01: How would that be?
51:03
SPEAKER_01: You're like, and I'm sure it's his plane.
51:04
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
51:05
SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
51:06
SPEAKER_01: They're like, excuse me, we need to borrow this for like I don't know, 10 minutes.
51:10
SPEAKER_00: I gotta see, I gotta say, it's kind of a baller move when you have your own private jet, and then the FBI raids your jet.
51:14
SPEAKER_00: That's you just puts you on a whole new level of baller status, in my opinion.
51:17
SPEAKER_01: It it's kind of true.
51:18
SPEAKER_01: I mean, I hate to say it, but it is kind of true.
51:20
SPEAKER_01: Anyway, what are you saying there?
51:22
SPEAKER_01: Anyways.
51:23
SPEAKER_01: Um then in February, Walters Insurance Companies received a federal grand jury subpoenas.
51:30
SPEAKER_01: Um, and then more recently he sells the Lakers in a pretty sudden multi-billion dollar transaction.
51:35
SPEAKER_01: And now it is rumored that he may be selling his stake in the English Premier League Soccer Club Chelsea FC.
51:41
SPEAKER_01: So this is all kind of happening and swirling really fast.
51:44
SPEAKER_01: But my question for you, Senior Dodgers fan, is what does this mean for the Dodgers with all of this happening around Mark Walter?
51:51
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so it's in my opinion, I don't think it's gonna affect the Dodgers really at all.
51:56
SPEAKER_00: Right?
51:56
SPEAKER_00: This is this is an ownership issue.
51:59
SPEAKER_00: This is something, okay, so Walter buys the Dodgers, right?
52:02
SPEAKER_00: And the problem is that he gave himself a loan to do that.
52:06
SPEAKER_00: So if he needs, so the the force, the reason why this is an issue is if you are the borrower and the lender, the for the pressure to pay isn't there.
52:16
SPEAKER_00: You could just say, okay, I'll pay it whenever I want to pay it, and you're gonna be like, I'm good.
52:19
SPEAKER_00: I'll pay myself whenever I want to pay myself, right?
52:21
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
52:21
SPEAKER_00: So that's kind of the attitude you're gonna have in general when it comes to that, right?
52:25
SPEAKER_00: But so he does that, he gets a loan.
52:27
SPEAKER_00: Now the lender, he's the borrower and the lender.
52:30
SPEAKER_00: And this is actually all above board at first when he acquired the Dodgers, right?
52:33
SPEAKER_00: Regulators okayed the deal when it happened.
52:36
SPEAKER_00: He actually showed us the regulators they okayed the deal.
52:39
SPEAKER_00: The rule was you don't um now don't quote me on this because I'm not a financial expert.
52:44
SPEAKER_00: I don't, you know, I don't have anything on like not a financial advice channel.
52:48
SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
52:48
SPEAKER_00: You know, but the way I understood it, and after reading way too much about it, is that when you're in this type of situation, when you're the borrower and a lender uh and you are also levying on an insurance company that issues loans, you do not want to have less than 10% of your loans be to yourself and to your own company's self-interest.
53:08
SPEAKER_00: And he's stay below 10%.
53:11
SPEAKER_00: So when he did that with the Dodgers, uh that was all above board, everything was okay then.
53:15
SPEAKER_00: Well, then he kind of got he got a little carried away after that.
53:18
SPEAKER_00: Uh WNBA, he bought the Sparks.
53:21
SPEAKER_00: Then he also did Chelsea and uh Strasbourg uh as well, both European soccer teams that you one of them mentioned before.
53:27
SPEAKER_00: Also, an entire women's pro hockey team, hockey hockey league.
53:32
SPEAKER_00: Uh the WL, I can't remember the exact acronym there, but that entire female hockey league that's actually doing quite well first three years in.
53:39
SPEAKER_00: But he owns the league, not just the teams, but the league itself, because the league owns the teams.
53:44
SPEAKER_00: So very interesting there.
53:45
SPEAKER_00: He also owns his own Cadillac F1 team.
53:48
SPEAKER_00: Uh, and then again, obviously last year bought the Lakers.
53:51
SPEAKER_00: Did this every single time.
53:53
SPEAKER_00: Now it looks like he's almost got$40 billion in loans out to himself for the to buy these companies, to buy these teams.
54:01
SPEAKER_00: So definitely over that 10% threshold.
54:04
SPEAKER_00: Um, so he did sell the Lakers, and it's quite clear that this was in a move because to get ahead of that, because you know there's a few things that's kind of obvious about that.
54:13
SPEAKER_00: You don't send your entire Dodger front office into the Lakers and retool their entire thing if you're only gonna own it for nine months.
54:22
SPEAKER_00: Absolutely, yeah.
54:23
SPEAKER_00: You don't retool everything, hence to McKinley's comment earlier uh before the show about you know freezing everything because they were going in.
54:31
SPEAKER_00: So now that's there's a mess there now for sure.
54:34
SPEAKER_00: Uh so there definitely wasn't a plan to do this.
54:36
SPEAKER_00: I think this federal investigation did rush that.
54:39
SPEAKER_00: Uh special thanks to the NBA for making it so expensive to buy an expansion team that uh Bob Iger, Disney, and and the good Kushner brother, whatever that means, um, were willing to pay$12 billion for the Lakers because the team, the expansion team in in Vegas is gonna cost$10 billion.
54:55
SPEAKER_00: So might as well pay another$2 billion to get the Lakers.
54:58
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
54:58
SPEAKER_00: Right?
54:58
SPEAKER_00: So he made two point billion two point something billion off of that deal.
55:02
SPEAKER_00: Um again, he's gonna be selling Chelsea.
55:04
SPEAKER_00: Uh, there's tons of other assets that he's gonna sell before he ever sells the Dodgers.
55:09
SPEAKER_00: Um, he's mentioned that that is something that he's not going to do, he's going to keep the Dodgers.
55:14
SPEAKER_00: Uh, so um I don't think this is gonna impact the team, primarily because the one domino that if he did sell that would cause a problem for the Dodgers would be Shodio Tani gets an opt-out.
55:26
SPEAKER_00: If Walters sells the team, he gets to opt out of his contract.
55:30
SPEAKER_00: Really?
55:31
SPEAKER_00: His contract says as long as Freddie Freeman's on uh Freddie Freeman, um I like that too.
55:37
SPEAKER_00: That's a good one.
55:38
SPEAKER_00: As long as Mark Walter is uh controlling owner, as long as Andrew Freeman is the front is the general manager of the team, um, I will honor this contract.
55:47
SPEAKER_00: But if either one of those two leave, I get an opt-out.
55:50
SPEAKER_00: So he actually can.
55:51
SPEAKER_00: He actually went on record saying that if Walters is forced to sell his section, his section of the team, his portion of the team, he will not opt out of his contract.
55:59
SPEAKER_01: So as long as he's not forced to sell it.
56:03
SPEAKER_00: If he is, he still won't opt out.
56:05
SPEAKER_01: Oh, okay.
56:06
SPEAKER_01: So we're good there.
56:07
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
56:08
SPEAKER_00: The only thing I would really be worried about if he did have to sell his portion, I don't think it's gonna affect the Dodgers at all.
56:12
SPEAKER_00: Again, because the majority of it's still owned by the Guggenhai group and some other minority owners uh in the in there as well.
56:17
SPEAKER_00: Um, so I don't think it's really gonna affect the team at all.
56:20
SPEAKER_00: Um, trust me, there's plenty of people to be willing to buy uh stake 15% of the Dodgers.
56:25
SPEAKER_00: So not gonna be an issue.
56:27
SPEAKER_01: Not gonna be any issues there.
56:28
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, not gonna be an issue.
56:30
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, absolutely.
56:31
SPEAKER_00: But yeah, so we'd love to hear from you folks.
56:33
SPEAKER_00: Let us know what your thoughts are in the comments down below when it comes to this.
56:35
SPEAKER_00: Um, you know, do you see this being an issue for the Dodgers going forward?
56:39
SPEAKER_00: Uh this situation will get messier before it gets cleaner.
56:42
SPEAKER_00: Um, there's definitely some fun stuff that you can tie together when it comes to this kind of thing.
56:46
SPEAKER_00: And you know there's more coming too.
56:47
SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah.
56:48
SPEAKER_00: You know, he's under federal indictment before they go visit the White House, and when he visits the White House, he's the only owner in baseball history to get the president a championship ring, too.
56:56
SPEAKER_00: You don't think that was on purpose?
56:57
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
56:58
SPEAKER_00: He's like, hey, hey, buddy.
57:00
SPEAKER_00: Yeah hey, just wanted to let you know I got this for you as well.
57:03
SPEAKER_00: I got this for you.
57:04
SPEAKER_00: Not just the jersey, but this too.
57:06
SPEAKER_00: This nice ring.
57:07
SPEAKER_00: This is for you.
57:07
SPEAKER_00: No president has ever gotten this.
57:09
SPEAKER_00: You know Trump loves that kind of shit, right?
57:11
SPEAKER_00: Oh.
57:12
SPEAKER_00: So, you know, just saying the power of the pardon is real, you know.
57:16
SPEAKER_00: Let's see what happens there.
57:17
SPEAKER_00: Um, but yeah.
57:18
SPEAKER_00: You got anything else on baseball you want to talk about?
57:21
SPEAKER_01: I do.
57:21
SPEAKER_00: All right, let's talk about it.
57:22
SPEAKER_01: You see exactly what it is.
57:24
SPEAKER_01: I didn't read it.
57:24
SPEAKER_01: Uh just want to make sure we're not looking at this.
57:26
SPEAKER_01: How about the Brewers?
57:28
SPEAKER_01: 22-0 against Seattle.
57:31
SPEAKER_01: Oh my gosh, dude.
57:32
SPEAKER_01: Dude, what an absolute massacre.
57:35
SPEAKER_00: Going into the like the going into the um Into the fourth inning.
57:39
SPEAKER_00: This looked like a pitchers duel.
57:40
SPEAKER_01: Through the fourth inning, it was a 1-0 game, dude.
57:43
SPEAKER_00: So crazy.
57:44
SPEAKER_01: 1-0.
57:45
SPEAKER_01: So this is that that game was tied for the largest tied for the largest shutout win dating back to 1887.
57:52
SPEAKER_01: Wow.
57:53
SPEAKER_00: That's nuts, dude.
57:55
SPEAKER_00: That's absolutely nuts.
57:57
SPEAKER_00: Shutout win.
57:58
SPEAKER_00: I don't know if anybody else got a chance to catch that.
58:00
SPEAKER_00: Dude, that poor position player they got left out there to give up like eight runs.
58:04
SPEAKER_00: They just there and rocked him, too, dude.
58:06
SPEAKER_01: There was no mercy.
58:07
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
58:08
SPEAKER_01: They're like, no, I mean you're you're pitching.
58:10
SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna hit it.
58:10
SPEAKER_00: Did you see the umpire calling like obvious balls that were like way up?
58:14
SPEAKER_00: He's like, strike.
58:15
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's like, dude, I want to go home too.
58:17
SPEAKER_01: Like at some point, this is getting ridiculous.
58:19
SPEAKER_01: So the the Brewers ended up with 22 runs on 22 hits.
58:23
SPEAKER_01: That nice clean stat line.
58:24
SPEAKER_01: Nice clean stat line.
58:25
SPEAKER_00: Only in baseball, man.
58:26
SPEAKER_00: Only in baseball.
58:27
SPEAKER_00: How romantic is that?
58:28
SPEAKER_01: Dude, that's it was just wild, dude.
58:30
SPEAKER_01: I saw that and I was like, what happened, Seattle?
58:33
SPEAKER_00: Like, yeah, exactly.
58:35
SPEAKER_01: You couldn't go, you couldn't even muster one run.
58:37
SPEAKER_01: Not even one.
58:39
SPEAKER_00: Not only that, like I I think it was Castillo that was pitching.
58:44
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
58:44
SPEAKER_00: And he's good, right?
58:45
SPEAKER_00: But he wasn't good for Seattle.
58:48
SPEAKER_00: So maybe they maybe they just didn't know what to do, man.
58:51
SPEAKER_00: No, I'm sorry.
58:52
SPEAKER_00: He's playing with the he plays with the white socks.
58:54
SPEAKER_00: Sorry.
58:55
SPEAKER_00: Um, yeah, I just think that's interesting, man.
58:57
SPEAKER_00: It was it was a crazy, crazy game.
58:59
SPEAKER_00: And if you get a chance to watch the highlights of it, watch it.
59:01
SPEAKER_00: It's just you're like, what in the heck is going on here?
59:04
SPEAKER_00: There was a couple plays there where you're just like this game could have been over much sooner.
59:08
SPEAKER_00: Like did you see the center fielder?
59:10
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
59:11
SPEAKER_00: Top of the eighth.
59:12
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I think I know what the play you're talking about.
59:14
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, he catches it the second out and throws the ball into the stands with the bases loaded.
59:18
SPEAKER_00: Yep.
59:18
SPEAKER_00: So like, you idiot.
59:20
SPEAKER_00: So for those of you who don't know baseball, if there's only you can't once you catch the ball, it is considered a dead ball, you throw it back in.
59:26
SPEAKER_00: But if you throw it out of bounds, all batters get to advance one more, one more space because it's out of the field of play.
59:33
SPEAKER_00: And so if you don't think that that's the third out, you basically just want to make sure you're holding the ball just to be on the safe side.
59:38
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, not a bad idea.
59:40
SPEAKER_00: He caught it in center field and threw it in the stands.
59:42
SPEAKER_00: Not a bad idea.
59:43
SPEAKER_00: We got a couple more comments here from McKinley on the on the on the Mark Walters thing.
59:46
SPEAKER_00: I mean, Walters is the CEO of the Guggenheim Partners, and will be and with all the shitty stuff he is accused of doing, uh, it wouldn't be surprising if he's to empty those accounts.
59:56
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, like I said, it's not like there's not a slew of people who wouldn't jump at the chance of buying his controlled uh portion.
1:00:03
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, absolutely.
1:00:04
SPEAKER_00: You know, the Dodgers, they're they're um they've got a lot of deferred money, absolutely.
1:00:09
SPEAKER_00: But again, with their TV contract, with SportsNet LA, you know, there's just in the market making a billion dollars last year.
1:00:16
SPEAKER_00: I don't see there really being an issue wanting to sell the team, you know.
1:00:20
SPEAKER_01: If anything, the city As long as he's not forced to sell the team, right?
1:00:23
SPEAKER_01: As long as they say that everything that we found isn't egregious, you know, you weren't doing something crazy.
1:00:28
SPEAKER_00: Even if it was egregious, I mean, you know, these billionaires they play by their own rules too, right?
1:00:32
SPEAKER_00: It's it's one of those things that just it, you know, we talked about it earlier with the Clippers.
1:00:36
SPEAKER_00: What is with the city of LA and their billionaires?
1:00:37
SPEAKER_00: Seriously.
1:00:38
SPEAKER_00: It happens, but like I I see it being something similar like that, right?
1:00:42
SPEAKER_00: He's gonna get they're gonna like he said, Okay, look, I thought it was 10%, it's that 40% of my loans are gonna be, you know, I'm in I'm in billionaire, I'll pay it all back, don't worry about it, I'll fix it, I'll pay the fines, do whatever you need to do.
1:00:54
SPEAKER_00: The only thing I can see if they forced him to, I don't think that's gonna be likely.
1:00:58
SPEAKER_00: I think he can come with the money to pay it all back, but I also don't think he's gonna be forced to sell the Dodgers.
1:01:04
SPEAKER_00: If he is, I'd just be kind of messed up because there's a whole bunch of other things that are happening in professional sports where they haven't been forced to sell the team, and if that's what you have to do to be forced to sell the team, and then I need to see Steve Ballmer sell the Clippers, I need to see a whole slew of other stuff.
1:01:20
SPEAKER_00: I mean, obviously Fisher needs to sell the A's.
1:01:22
SPEAKER_00: If we start regulating that kind of stuff, then there's pretty much gonna be no team owned in Major League Basically, right?
1:01:27
SPEAKER_01: That's how most billionaires operate, right?
1:01:29
SPEAKER_01: They have controlling shares in a company and they use those shares to purchase something else and make their little empire, their massive empire a little bit more massive.
1:01:37
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I also think it's kind of weird that it might be a subject for another time because we're getting a little long on the tooth on this one, but like that how difficult is it with these team evaluations now?
1:01:47
SPEAKER_00: How impossible is it for any one person to own a team?
1:01:51
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it almost has to be an entire investment group or a conglomerate or private equity to own any sports team.
1:01:56
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you're just a majority owner.
1:01:58
SPEAKER_00: Billions of dollars you have to buy these teams for, and who's got who's gonna leverage that out, you know?
1:02:02
SPEAKER_00: So it's quite interesting.
1:02:04
SPEAKER_00: Um, he's touching, uh he's been touching and or loaning himself money that he hasn't supposed that he wasn't supposed to touch.
1:02:12
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, again, that would be a violation, right?
1:02:14
SPEAKER_00: So um definitely true.
1:02:16
SPEAKER_00: Like I said, it's he's not squeaky cleaning this, and again, no billionaire really is when it comes to these kind of things.
1:02:22
SPEAKER_00: And did he get a little drunk of his own power?
1:02:24
SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
1:02:24
SPEAKER_00: Is this gonna come back to body in the you know what?
1:02:26
SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
1:02:27
SPEAKER_00: I just don't think it's affecting the Dodgers too much.
1:02:29
SPEAKER_00: I just don't see it happening.
1:02:30
SPEAKER_00: Right.
1:02:31
SPEAKER_00: I mean, he didn't play, he didn't he didn't plan to sell the Lakers either.
1:02:34
SPEAKER_00: Also, I wouldn't be so sure if he won't sell his Dodgers shares according to the reports.
1:02:40
SPEAKER_00: He's asking everyone he knows for quick loans.
1:02:43
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I saw that too.
1:02:45
SPEAKER_00: Um, he will get like I said, he will get desperate if he has to sell the Dodgers, he will, but that's like the last stitch effort um for him, and I just don't see it happening unless he's being forced to uh by the federal regulators.
1:02:58
SPEAKER_00: If the investigation comes back and he's uh he's forced to sell or they or they find out that it was done above board, right?
1:03:04
SPEAKER_00: Like that's well it's it's not done above board.
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SPEAKER_00: I mean it's I think it's pretty quick, pretty obvious, you know.
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SPEAKER_01: Well, even the Dodgers one was though, right?
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, the Dodgers owner was, so yeah, it might that might be shielded, right?
1:03:14
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so like hey, this one was done above board, yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: That one was done within the 10%.
1:03:18
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we create this one, then everything after this one, but everything after, like, hey, you were you were pushing it, man.
1:03:23
SPEAKER_01: Like that all the rules stay, this is where the lines are.
1:03:26
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and you broke those rules.
1:03:27
SPEAKER_00: So yeah, I I don't know.
1:03:28
SPEAKER_00: We'll have to see.
1:03:28
SPEAKER_00: We'll have to see.
1:03:29
SPEAKER_00: There's a lot of stuff that happens like that in our own state, which I'm we're not gonna go into.
1:03:32
SPEAKER_00: Um, but where there's that kind of stuff happening, and you know, people just get people get creative with money and numbers, and and it's just not real money to these people anymore.
1:03:44
SPEAKER_00: And yeah, I don't know.
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SPEAKER_00: It would be unfortunate if a team like the Dodgers, who are basically the only team in baseball that is willing to do everything they possibly can to go all in, is gonna be penalized because their ownership got a little creative with the books.
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SPEAKER_00: I think it'd be kind of unfair.
1:03:59
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it just sets a precedent that I don't think anybody wants to go down.
1:04:02
SPEAKER_00: Um, I do have actually a uh a random subject I want to talk about, AJ.
1:04:06
SPEAKER_00: I'm ready.
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SPEAKER_00: So, AJ, we talk a lot on this show about pitching injuries injuries on this channel.
1:04:11
SPEAKER_00: Yes, we do.
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SPEAKER_00: What is the most dreaded one that that uh we don't wish upon anybody, uh, which is the UCL tear.
1:04:19
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
1:04:19
SPEAKER_00: Uh the UCL tear, that means the pitcher is having to go under a knife for Tommy John.
1:04:24
SPEAKER_00: That's right.
1:04:25
SPEAKER_00: Tommy John.
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SPEAKER_00: The did you know he is actual an actual person?
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SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
1:04:30
SPEAKER_00: He's an actual person, four-time all-star.
1:04:32
SPEAKER_00: He's not anymore.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: Burning the lead there.
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SPEAKER_00: Tommy John, four-year all-star left-hander, uh, who became synonymous with one of the baseball's most important medical uh procedures there.
1:04:46
SPEAKER_00: Um, he died at 83 this week.
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SPEAKER_00: Uh John uh enjoyed a remarkable 26-year major league career, AJ.
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SPEAKER_00: Only uh Nolan Ryan had a longer pitching career than he did.
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SPEAKER_00: 26 years.
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SPEAKER_00: 26 years, winning 288 games, pitching for the Yankees, uh, the White Sox, the Dodgers, the Indians, uh, as well as some other clubs.
1:05:10
SPEAKER_00: Uh he built a, you know, he became the first player to ever uh go into the surgery in 1974.
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SPEAKER_00: He suffered an elbow tear of the ligament under and underwent an experimental procedure by Dodgers team physician, uh Dr.
1:05:25
SPEAKER_00: Frank Jobs.
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SPEAKER_00: Um, the operation restructured his uneral collateral ligament.
1:05:33
SPEAKER_00: And then after 18 months of recovery, John returned to pitch another 13 seasons in Major League Baseball, 164 games after his surgery, and was considered uh which was normally considered cons uh career-ending uh injury prior to the creation of that surgery.
1:05:53
SPEAKER_00: Now thousands of pitchers get this, and it's become synonymous with his name forever as Tommy John surgery.
1:05:59
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, Tommy John man.
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SPEAKER_00: Um you know, enjoy playing baseball up there with all the greats, man.
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SPEAKER_00: Um, you know, R.I.P.
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SPEAKER_00: there.
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SPEAKER_00: Um, you know, was a dodger when this happened when he got the surgery done and uh saved a lot of pitchers' careers after that.
1:06:14
SPEAKER_00: Super cool.
1:06:15
SPEAKER_01: It it's really cool to see how fast I mean pitchers can go back from Tommy John.
1:06:19
SPEAKER_01: I mean, you hear that that it was 18 months recovery time for him.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I mean 1974.
1:06:24
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but I mean pitchers are back from Tommy John in what, six, seven months now?
1:06:27
SPEAKER_01: I think they take a whole year off, yeah.
1:06:29
SPEAKER_01: I mean they take the season, right?
1:06:31
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, they'll take the season, but it's not like you're not losing two seasons over it anymore.
1:06:35
SPEAKER_00: No, yeah, you're throwing, yeah, you're doing you're throwing.
1:06:37
SPEAKER_00: You're back throwing, you're back to it.
1:06:39
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so yeah, it's just super cool, man.
1:06:41
SPEAKER_00: That this that's and it's lasted this long.
1:06:43
SPEAKER_00: Now with a brace surgery, the update of it, we're seeing pictures being long.
1:06:46
SPEAKER_00: It's just really quick, crazy to see.
1:06:48
SPEAKER_00: I when I read that 26-year career, 13 seasons after Tommy John surgery, after his own namesake surgery, which is weird.
1:06:58
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, the first time it was ever called.
1:07:00
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I mean, it wasn't called that when he did it.
1:07:02
SPEAKER_00: No, it was called uh unilateral, whatever that is.
1:07:07
SPEAKER_00: Uh crazy, right?
1:07:10
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
1:07:10
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1:07:41
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1:07:43
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