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Mega Edition: Howard Lutnick And His Less Than Believable Epstein Back Track (4/29/26) · The Epstein Chronicles

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Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
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Epstein Chronicles. Now listen, folks, I know this is gonna
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come as a gigantic surprise, But Howard Lutnick hasn't been
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telling us the truth about his relationship with Jeffrey Epstein. Now, look,
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I know you're all shocked to hear that, considering Howard
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Lutnik is such a gray dude and he would never
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ever spend any time with Jeffrey Epstein. And he says
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it with just like this smile and this glint in
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his eye. Meanwhile, old Howard Lutnik over here is engaging
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in business deals with Epstein, being friendly with Epstein. Oh yeah,
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and did you hear the one about Epstein donating fifty
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thousand dollars to a charity dinner that was honoring good
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old Howie Lutnick. Well, in this article, you're gonna hear
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about that and a lot more. So let's dive into
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this article from Mother Jones and let's see what they
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have for us and the headline. New details from Epstein
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files reveal Lutnik had years long business tie with the
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sex offender. Well, it was obvious that he was lying
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about his relationship. Did anyone really believe that Howard Lutnick
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live right next door to Jeffrey Epstein and he only
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went over there one time? Like really? Or how about
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that Hillary fundraiser that Epstein was invited to. Let's not
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act like he didn't show up or he didn't drop
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off a bag. He most certainly did. So the whole
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entire narrative that we've gotten from Lutnik about his relationship
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with Epstein or the non existence of it, is just
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a bunch of bs. Now, look, I'm not gonna sit
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here and tell you that Lutnik was involved, you know,
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with a day to day activity, but he was certainly
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somebody that was adjacent to Jeffrey Epstein and somebody that
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had some business dealings with him. The author of this
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article is Noah Lanyard. There's more bad news for or
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Commerce Secretary Howard Luttnik in the Epstein files. Previously on
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reported documents show he hasn't been accurate or perhaps honest
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about the extent of his business ties to Jeffrey Epstein.
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Lutnick has had a big problem since the trove was
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released last month. He previously insisted he and his wife
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cut ties with Epstein in two thousand and five, after
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they moved next door to Epstein's mansion in New York City.
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In an interview last year, Lutnick said that Epstein had
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given him an uncomfortable tour of his home and that
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he vowed he would never be in the room with
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that disgusting person ever again until he was How was
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that lunch over on the island after he was already convicted?
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You gigantic wire? But the file showed that Lutnick and
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his family visited Epstein on his private island in twenty twelve,
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that Epstein in twenty seventeen donated fifty thousand dollars to
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a charity dinner honoring Lutnick, and that the following year
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the two communicated about countering an expansion of a neighboring museum.
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Which is hilarious because these guys will tell you how
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cultured they are, right, Oh, we want this, we want that.
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We're here for the arts. Unless there's a museum that
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might bring people around their house, then forget it. The
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last thing they want is sweaty plebeians running around and
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sticking up the neighborhood. Yo. The contempt that these people
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have for you is completely overwhelming. Earlier this month, CBS
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News revealed more on their connection by reporting that Lutnik
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and Epstein each signed the contract in twenty twelve, four
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years after Epstein pleaded guilty to sex crimes, to invest
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in a digital ad technology company called Adfin Solutions. The
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deal was dated just five days after Lutnick and his
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family visited Epstein on his private island. Lutnick signed on
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behalf of a limited liability company controlled by counter Fitzgerald,
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the investment firm where he served as CEO, and it's
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crazy Bro is the CEO of the company here in
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Vegas too, Canner Gaming, and it ended up go and
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bust because they were in bed with the mafia. You
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had the mafia run a book through Canner laying bets
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off all kinds of shit, and that was called the
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Jersey Boy scandal. And we've talked about that before previously
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as well. So it's not like Howard Lutnick is new
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to controversy, but he's one of those very powerful people
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who always finds a way to definitely navigate their way
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through it, and they always come out on the other
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end looking better than when they started. Lutnixx Camp has
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tried to minimize his involvement with Epstein through their shared
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investment in Adfin. A spokesperson for the Commerce Department told
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CBS News Secretary Lutnik had limited interaction with mister Epstein
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in the presence of his wife and has never been
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accused of wrongdoing, and a source close to Lutnik told
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the network that Canter was a small minority investor in
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the venture. This source added that at the time of
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doing the deal, as a minority investor, mister Lutnick would
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not have any knowledge of who the other investors were. Well,
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he knows now, and he knew previously. So why wasn't
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he just honest when the question was asked. I'll tell
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you why. Because he thinks you're stupid, and he thinks
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that even if this is exposed, nothing's going to happen
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to him. Meanwhile, you have Prince Andrew who's literally looking
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at a life sentence. Now, do I think he's going
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to get that? No, but at least there's a threat.
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Is there any threat whatsoever for Howard Lutnick? Of course
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there's not. There never has been, and unfortunately I doubt
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there ever will be. He'll just keep on keeping on.
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He'll stay in his position, and even if he gets
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fired from the Commerce secretary position, well, he's going to
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go home and swim in his money like Scrooge McDuck.
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So he's golden no matter what happens. It's the rest
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of us that are screwed, literally and figuratively. And by
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the way, I have a hard time believing that Howard
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Lutnick didn't do due diligence not only on what he
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was investing in, but on who he was investing with.
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So I find that hard to believe. That's misleading. Emails
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and documents in the massive Epstein release not yet reported,
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revealed that Lutnik went on to become a prominent figure
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in Adfin, not merely a minority investor, and that he
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and his company were financially interconnected with Epstein in the
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venture for at least six years. They also show that
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Canner essentially took over Adfin as Epstein played an investor
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role in the struggling firm. It's highly improbable that Lutnik
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did not know Epstein was a key shareholder. Yeah, I
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find it hard to believe as well. I think it's
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a bunch of BS. In fact, the Department of Commerce
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did not respond to a request for comment. Kantor Fitzgerald
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did not respond to a request for comment. An email
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exchange from May twenty eighth, twenty eighteen, hwl. Lutnek's middle
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name is William discussing Adfinn with Epstein and a parent
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sign that Lutnik was aware of Epstein's involvement in the company,
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and then he maintained a business relationship with Epstein far
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longer than he is acknowledged. So that should be enough
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right there for him to be forced out of office.
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He lied to the American people. Does that not count anymore?
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Does that not matter? I mean, I guess it doesn't.
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I guess it doesn't. As long as the person's on
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your team, right, it's all good. And that's the kind
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of mentality we got to break away from. It doesn't
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matter who's guilty of these crimes, it doesn't matter who
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is engaging in this bullshit. They should be held accountable.
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And I don't just mean when it comes to Ebstein,
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I'm talking about in general. If you're going to take
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a position that comes with great responseility, you must conduct
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yourself correctly and with honor and if you can't do that,
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don't take a job representing people. Don't take a job
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in the American government. In the emails, the two discussed
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adfinn status. Epstein asked HWL, what do you think the
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prospects for ADFINNR In an email more confidential and the
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sole property at counter Fitzgerald LLP and its affiliates replied,
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producing revenue. Finally, this is their year, next twelve months.
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They need to become economically self sufficient. HWL and Epstein
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in these emails also had a friendly discussion about real estate,
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including a reference to a property HWL called Pierre. Lutnick
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bought the penthouse in the Pierre Hotel in twenty seventeen.
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Epstein asked, I can buy my guesthouse. HWL responded, haven't
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even picked an architect or a designer yet. Nah. They
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weren't close, right, They weren't buddies, just two guys that
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happened to live next to each other. Everything else is
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just a gigantic coincidence. How dare you think anything else?
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You conspiracy theorist. The documents in the Epstein file about
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the adfin deal were uncovered by a British whistleblower, who
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was asked to remain unidentified. He's a former managing director
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at BGC Financial, an affiliate of Canner Fitzgerald, who has
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been in employment dispute with BGC in the United States,
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claiming he faced retaliation for reporting the financial regulator is
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wrongdoing at the firm. Well, I can tell you right
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now when they worked in Vegas, when they had Canter Gaming,
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they didn't care about stars. I can't tell you how
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many stars I filed. They didn't care about any of it.
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They cared about making money. That's it, point blank, period,
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and they were very clear about that as well. After
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he filed whistleblower reports with the Commodity Futures Trading Commission
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regarding BGC Financial, the CFTC and posed a three million
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dollar sanction in twenty nineteen on BGC for numerous supervision,
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reporting and record keeping violations all tracks. The Adfin deal
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started at the end of twenty twelve with stock purchase
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agreement for the firm that both Lutnik and Epstein signed
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on behalf of corporate entities. It included a schedule of
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purchases for each of the eight investors in the coming year.
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In April of twenty thirteen, Epstein, through his Southern Trust Company,
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put in five hundred thousand. In July, he invested another
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one hundred and twenty five thousand. As part of that investment,
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Lutnik invested three hundred and fifty thousand through CVA FHLLC.
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The parent company for his firm was Kener Fitzgerald. By
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March twenty seventeen, Epstein's investments and ADFIN would be up
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to eight hundred and seventy five thousand dollars according to
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his own records. So this is another reason they didn't
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use RICO, because if they recoed Epstein, all these people
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would get caught up, just like I've told you, and
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you don't have to be a financial genius to figure
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that out. If you received ill gotten gains during this
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time from Epstein, congratulations, your bitch ass is part of
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the case. And it would be nice if somebody in
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Congress would ask about RICO. At the end of twenty thirteen,
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LATINX Company became more deeply involved in ADFIN when it
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loaned the company two million. Epstein was one of three
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non cantor shareholders who had to approve the loan and
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he did signing an agreement that was also signed by
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a counter official who served as CFO of cv A
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FH one. So it's indisputable. Okay, they were in business together,
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they were friendly. He was going to the island, and
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Lutnik lied, I'm not going to play games here and
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be like, oh he was loose with the truth. No,
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he lied, and the whole entire purpose was to keep
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the American people from knowing the actual depths of his
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relationship with Jeffrey Epstein. In January of twenty fourteen, David Mitchell,
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a real estate developer and another investor in the company,
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emailed Epstein to share additional details about the funding from Canner.
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Because of the loan, Canner was now in a position
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to gain a board seat at Adfin, Mitchell wrote. But
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Mitchell also reminded Epstein that he, Epstein and a founder
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of Adfin could work together as a group could block
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certain actions of the company. In short, Lutnik's company was
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gaining a larger stake in Adfin, but Epstein would remain
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an influential investor in the firm. Mitchell did not respond
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to a request for comment. Nobody's going to respond. That's
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been the mo because they know there's nothing they can
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say that makes any of this okay. Epstein continued to
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keep an eye on the investment. In one twenty fourteen
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email to an unidentified recipient, he called the firm, which
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was offering technology to track digital ads, very tomorrow and
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noted it would be a great internship. By July twenty fifteen,
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according to an archive page of Adfin's website, Lutnik was
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listed as one of five board members and investors at
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the company. Epstein was not cited on the list, though
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he had retained his shares in the firm. In February
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of twenty sixteen, Mitchell sent a letter to Adfin investors
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informing them that Cantor was investing another one point seventy
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five million in the company and that the shares that
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you purchased a number of years ago will be diluted.
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He wrote, personally, I feel very badly that this happened,
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as I introduced you to this investment to co invest
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alongside me. A chart accompanying the letter noted that Epstein's
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holdings in the firm would decrease from eight point eight
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percent of the shares to five point six percent. Well
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that doesn't shock me either. Canner Gaming still ows me
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five thousand shares as part of a compensation package for
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me accepting a management job with their company. Breaking news
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nobody got any shares. An addendum to the letter from
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Mitchell said that Canner would control the board of directors
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in Lutnik would join the board. Cantor will effectively control
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decision making power at the board and stockholder level, it noted,
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adding that Adfin will be majority owned by Canner. In
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February of twenty eighteen, Adfin asked Epstein's Southern Trust would
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be interested in additional investment in the firm alongside a
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new injection of funds from Cantor, but Epstein wanted out.
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He emailed his accountant, Richard Kahn, and said, you can
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tell them we are a seller at cost eight seventy
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five and we are out, a reference to his investment
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of eight hundred and seventy five thousand in the firm.
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At the time, Epstein was the third largest investor in Adfin. So, yeah,
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Lutnick knew him. Okay, that confirms it. Lutnick isn't in
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this business and not knowing what's going on. Kahn expressed
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Epstein's interest in selling his Adfin shares. In an email
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to the company's CEO, he added, can you please communicate
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this to existing investors, which would have included Lutnik and
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Cantor nothing happened right away. Six weeks later, Adfin ceo
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wrote Kahn, sorry for the delay. We were trying to
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get a response from Howard and Jonathan on your ask,
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but there is apparently no interest at this time on
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the sale of your interest. After that, Mitchell told Epstein
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there was an offer for one hundred thousand for Epstein shares.
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He added, I need to get him up to a
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rational number that at least gets you back your investment.
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Epstein replied, okay, I can wait. We have eight hundred
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and seventy five in On May twentieth, twenty eighteen, Lutnick
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contacted Epstein and asked if he was aware that a
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renovation of the Frick Collection on the Upper East Side
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would block our park views. He added, what should we
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do about it? Time is of the essence. Epstein's assistant
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wrote back that Epstein was not aware. Thank you for
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letting us know. Imagine these two disgusting scumbags. Oh, we
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can't see the park anymore. Imagine that's the kind of
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problem you have. God forbid, I can't see the park.
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And furthermore, Jeffrey Epstein probably shouldn't live near a park,
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never mind ce one. The same day, Epstein wrote an
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email saying, tell your lawyer that Darren, my lawyer will
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contact him. In response, the HWL account replied, meeting is
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tomorrow morning, presumably referring to a meeting about the proposed museum.
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That was the day when Epstein directly asked HWL about
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the prospects for Adfinn, and HWL provided an optimistic assessment,
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noting that it was finally producing revenue, adding that this
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is their year that was not to be. Adfinn was
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shut down in October twenty nineteen, three months after Epstein
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was arrested on federal sex crime charges and two months
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after he died in prison. So can we just cut
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the crap please. It's obvious that Howard Lutnik was a
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lot closer to Jeffrey Epstein than he let on, and
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it's gross that he's still the Commerce secretary in this country.
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I mean, just look over in the UK. I mean,
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not only was Prince Andrew arrested, but Peter Mandelsson just
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got arrested today as well. Meanwhile, here in America, we
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can't even get rid of Howard Lutnik. And if you
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were wondering why the administration was so worried about these
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files coming out and why they were doing everything in
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their power to make sure that didn't occur, well now
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you know. And if they let this stuff out and
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it's this embarrassing, I can only imagine what else they
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have that they don't want you to see. So that's
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why it's important that we keep demanding that the federal government,
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the DOJ does as the law commands it to do,
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because I have a funny feeling that Howard Lutnik isn't
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the only one that hasn't been honest with us about
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their relationship with Jeffrey Epstein. All right, folks, that's going
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to do it for this one. All of the information
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that goes with this episode can be found in the
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description box. What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode
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of the Epstein Chronicles. So Howard Lutnick loves to tell
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people that he was grossed out by Jeffrey Epstein and
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that because he saw a massage table in the middle
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of Jeffrey Epstein's living room that him and his wife
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decided they'd never see Jeffrey Epstein ever. Again, Well, it
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turns out that's a lie, and now there's receipts to
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prove it. But at this point does it even matter.
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We know there's not going to be any accountability coming
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from the Trump administration, and we know that somebody like
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Howard Lutnick doesn't have a moral bone in his body,
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But that doesn't mean we shouldn't call him out. That
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doesn't mean that we shouldn't put him on the carpet
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and talk about how much of a BS artist he
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really is. And what's with so many people that were
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Epstein adjacent being part of the Trump administration? It is absurd.
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I mean, then again, with Trump being the boss, maybe
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that's a prerequisite they look for. The more time you
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spent with Jeffrey Epstein, the more chance you have of
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joining the administration. Today's article is from CBS News and
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the headline Lutnick and Epstein were in business together Epstein
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Vile Show. This article was authored by Daniel Rutnick and
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Graham Cats. And I've told you folks before that I
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worked for Howard Lutnick, and it was an absolute shit show.
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The company was a shit show. Management was a shit show.
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All of the getaways we did as far as management
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goes shit shows. And of course the company ended up
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going under because it was corrupt. And considering Howard Lutnik
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and who he is, it's not shocking. US Commerce Secretary
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Howard Lutnik has said that he had limited interaction with
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Jeffrey Epstein, but documents showed that they were in business
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together as recently as twenty fourteen. And once again, make
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sure you're paying attention to the timelines. He can't use
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the defense that I had no idea what Jeffrey Epstein
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was in twenty fourteen. You knew you didn't care. And
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then not only that, you had the audacity to get
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up there and lied to the American people in that interview,
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acting like you and Epstein were never chummy, like you
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were never buddies, and like you never had any business association. Well,
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it turns out that Howard Lutnik is just another liar,
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just like the rest of these so called masters of
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the universe. Well, you thought somebody with his net wealth
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really gave a shit about you, that he was doing
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the right thing, and he was looking for justice. Instead,
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what he was doing, like the vast majority of these people,
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was enriching himself. Lutnik and Epstein each signed on behalf
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of limited liability companies that agreed on December twenty eighth,
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twenty twelve, to acquire stakes in a now shuttered advertising
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technology company called Adfin. Document released among the so called
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Epstein file show what does that even mean? So called
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Epstein files? Are they not Epstein files? Why are they
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so called? I mean something is or it isn't. There's
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no gray area here, no nuance. The files are what
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they are. And for Howard Lutnik to get up there
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and tell us a bunch of bs about his relationship
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with Jeffrey Epstein and about how they were in friends
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is just ridiculous. I remember a time when if you
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were a politician in this country, you at least had
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the good grace not to lie to the American people
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to their face. And now with the Internet and with
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as much information that's out there, do you really think
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you're gonna get away with that bullshit for very long?
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You know you're gonna get called out, you know you're
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gonna get caught. But The truth is, it doesn't even
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matter when you're a boss is caught up in the
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same maelstrom you're caught up in. He can't go around
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firing people for the same offenses, right because under normal circumstances,
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in a real world, with real justice and real people
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who gave a shit, Howard Lutnick, Donald Trump, all these
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people would be gone. Epstein and Lutnik signatures appear on
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neighboring pages in the contract, with Epstein signing for a
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Southern Trust Company Incorporated and Lutnik for a limited liability
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company called CVA FH one. The documents list nine shareholders
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in total. And you know when I talk about Rico
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all the time and why they didn't hit him with Rico,
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this is why. Because he was in bed with all
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these people. The prosecutors knew, and they knew the shitstor
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that would come, so instead they narrowly charged them. They
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narrowly charge Glenn Maxwell so they can provide protection for
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everybody else. And I've been trying to tell you folks
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that that's the big story here, that's the big issue,
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the cover up a lot of the crimes that have happened.
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You know, there's statute, the limitations, there's roadblocks, but the
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cover up is happening right now, and there's tangible evidence
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that proves that this is the cover up. And of
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course we want people to get purp walked, who hurt kids,
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who abuse women, and who committed crimes. But sometimes you
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have to get creative, right and if that means going
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after people like Lutnick for being involved with Epstein financially,
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then so be it. Lutnick, the former chairman of the
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financial services firm counter Fitzgerald, who at one point lived
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next door to Epstein, told The New York Post in
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October that he and his wife Allison, had cut ties
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with Epstein in two thousand and five, deciding after taking
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a tour of Epstein's New York townhouse, I will never
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be in the room with that disgusting person ever again.
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So just lie to the American people straight up, and
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nobody cares. All the tribalists, they don't give a shit.
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He's on our team. He's not lying. That's not true.
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Don't believe your eyes, believe what we tell you. Just
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trust us, bro. Anybody who's out there operating like that
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currently is not somebody you should be listening to provide receipts,
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show some sources, or say hey, look this is my opinion.
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But defending people that are lying to you, lying to
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the American public, that's some wild work. And I got
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to tell you that is not an America first position,
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because America first means America first, not your political party,
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and not your faiths. However, it appears that Epstein and
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Lutnik continued to maintain contact, and emails show that they
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arrange calls and plan to have drinks Intoy eleven. The
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following year, the couple and their four children plan to
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visit to Epstein's island Little Saint James. Email show Lutnik
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was invited for lunch on December twenty fourth, twenty twelve,
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and later Epstein's assistant wrote on behalf of Epstein, it
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was nice seeing you. Their adfin deal was signed four
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days later. So what are we going to do about it?
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We're just going to accept that Howard Lutnik is lying
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to the American public. Just move on, not our heads
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and be like, you know what, we accept that and
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we expect it because at some point we become culpable.
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We keep electing these people, we keep giving them the
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cover that they need to stay in office. And then
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when there's this big ass controversy that shows up, everybody
25:43
retreats to their tribe and doesn't give a shit about
25:46
real justice. And keep in mind, while you're doing that,
25:49
these smarmy, discussing sons of bitches are getting away with it.
25:54
A sorts close to Lutnik told CBS News Kenner Fitzgerald
25:58
was a small minority investor an adfin at the time
26:02
of doing the deal. As a minority investor, mister Lutnik
26:05
would not have any knowledge of who the other investors were. Oh,
26:08
of course, not no idea. Howie Lutnik had no idea,
26:14
Just another guy who's been confused and another guy that
26:17
was hosed by Epstein, the genius. Stop it, nobody buys it.
26:23
A spokesperson for the Commerce Department said this is nothing
26:26
more than a failing attempt by the legacy media to
26:29
distract from the administration's accomplishments, including securing trillions of dollars
26:34
in investment, delivering historic trade deals, and fighting for the
26:38
American worker. Like, where is all this greatness taking place?
26:43
Because I don't see it. What prices are going down?
26:47
How's life getting any easier. What are they even talking
26:51
about right now? What happened to those doge dividend checks?
26:56
What happened to the tariff money we were going to get? Oh, yeah,
26:59
that's right, You're not getting any of that. Instead, what
27:02
you're gonna get is more bullshit, more lies, and more deceit.
27:08
Correspondence relating to Adfin continued until at least twenty fourteen,
27:12
when one of the shareholders, David Mitchell, wrote to Epstein
27:17
regarding additional fundraising involving Cantor Ventures, a venture capital subsidiary
27:22
of Canter Fitzgerald. Lutnik had been president and CEO of
27:27
Cannor since nineteen ninety one and was elevated to chairman
27:30
in nineteen ninety six. Also in nineteen ninety six, Epstein
27:35
sold a property located at eleven East seventy first Street
27:38
in New York to an entity called Common Trust, which
27:42
two years later sold the property to Lutnik. It became
27:45
as primary residence next door to Epstein's New York City mansion.
27:50
By the time that Epstein and Lutnick agreed to buy
27:52
stakes in Adfin, it had been more than four years
27:55
since Epstein agreed to enter a guilty plea in Florida
27:59
to stay charge of procuring a child for a prostitution
28:03
and soliciting a prostitute. Again, it has to be mentioned
28:08
he wasn't soliciting prostitutes. He was soliciting minors. Big difference.
28:15
The case brought forth allegations of far broader sex trafficking
28:19
and victimization of girls, but it wasn't until twenty nineteen
28:23
that Epstein was charged with federal felonies, including trafficking. He
28:27
died in jail two weeks after his arrest. In the
28:31
wake of the release of the Epstein files. Lutnik has
28:34
been one of the broad international network of powerful Epstein
28:37
associates who distance themselves from the financier, only to be
28:42
asked to now clarify the relationship with them that appear
28:45
to be closer or lengthier than they previously acknowledged. This
28:49
has always been the problem, and I dubbed it years
28:51
ago as Epstein amnesia. You want to talk about Trump
28:54
derangement syndrome, You fools have Epstein amnesia syndrome. Epstein appears
29:03
to have been aware of the public relations challenge he
29:05
posed to people close to him. Emails show in twenty seventeen,
29:10
he agreed to donate fifty thousand dollars to a dinner
29:13
in honor of Lutnik Hope pr is Okay. Epstein wrote
29:17
to billionaire hedge fund manager John Paulson, an organizer of
29:21
the dinner. Epstein declined to take a table awarded to
29:25
donors of that level, writing that Lutnik could fill the seats.
29:29
Their relationship continued to the next year, twenty eighteen, when
29:33
Lutnik emailed Epstein, apparently complaining about an expansion plan for
29:37
their neighboring Frick Collection art museum. Lutnik warned Epstein that
29:42
the renovation might block your sunlight and your views. You
29:46
should put in a letter. I'm sending a lawyer. Don't
29:48
ignore this, Lutnick wrote to Ebstein. Yeah, it's going to
29:53
kill your sunlight. Who needs a museum. These people still
29:57
think they live in the Gilded Age, but they're in
29:59
for a awakening because people aren't into their bullshit anymore.
30:03
And people like Howard Lutnik, they can lie, they can deny,
30:07
and they can try an office skate. But now that
30:10
the receipts are here, I think it's sign for Howard
30:12
Lutnik to answer some questions in front of Congress. All
30:16
of the information that goes with this episode can be
30:18
found in the description box. What's up, everyone, and welcome
30:22
to another episode of the Epstein Chronicles. As the congressional
30:28
farce known as the Jeffrey Epstein Investigation continues to rumble on,
30:33
we're now hearing that two more people are going to
30:36
be called in to sit down and give testimony, and
30:40
those two people are Howard Lutnik and Katherine Rumler. So
30:44
in this episode, we have two articles, both by the
30:47
New York Post talking about these new developments. First article,
30:53
like I said, New York Post and the headline Commerce
30:56
Secretary Howard Lutnik to testify on association with jeff Frey Epstein.
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This article was authored by Josh Christiansen. Commerce Secretary Howard
31:07
Lutnik said Tuesday that he'll testify about his ties to
31:11
the deceased sex offender Jeffrey Epstein as a House oversight
31:15
committee seeks interviews with seven other associates. Look, that's great,
31:21
but it's nothing but a circus. And at this point
31:24
I'm convinced that the whole entire thing is nothing but
31:28
cover for the administration. You notice how they come out
31:31
and they champion what the committee is doing. Oh yeah,
31:35
the committee, they're taking a look at all of this.
31:38
Why do we need the discharge petition? Well, this is why,
31:42
because this whole entire thing has been nothing but an
31:45
absolute joke since the start. Everybody wants to have their
31:50
gotcha moment, their viral moment on TV. And I don't
31:53
know about you, folks, but I'm pretty tired of being
31:57
ruled by these wanna be influencers. Stay off the net
32:00
for a little while and do your job. I look
32:06
forward to appearing before the committee. Lutnik first told Axios,
32:09
without immediately sharing a date for the testimony. I've done
32:13
nothing wrong and I want to set the record straight.
32:16
Well okay, good, but you've already lied. So why did
32:21
you lie? That's the real question. And again, look, I'm
32:24
not saying Lutnik was out here diddling kids with Epstein.
32:28
I don't know. We didn't see that evidence yet. Does
32:31
that evidence exist, maybe, but I haven't seen it. What
32:35
I am telling you, though, is that he is a liar,
32:39
and as the Commerce Secretary, to get up there and
32:42
brazenly lie to the American people and do it in
32:45
such a brazen and nonchalant manner is just unacceptable, So
32:51
Howard Lutnik has to go Oversight Chairman James Comer also
32:57
said in a statement on Tuesday that the Cabinet of
32:59
fifth Mischoul had proactively agreed to do so after Democrats
33:03
on the panel push for Lutnik to be subpoenaed for
33:06
questioning Why wouldn't the Republicans want to do that? Why
33:11
wouldn't the Republicans on the committee want to hear from
33:14
Howard Lutnik? What are they afraid of? Don't you think
33:19
if you were on the committee you would be over
33:22
cautious as to who you're not calling in, Like optics matter, right?
33:30
And is it too difficult for these politicians to do
33:33
what's best for all of us and to just stow
33:36
their bullshit for a little while. Can't they just do that?
33:40
Obviously not. I commend his demonstrated commitment to transparency and
33:44
appreciate his willingness with the committee. I look forward to
33:47
his testimony. Comer added, Yeah, you guys, can you know,
33:52
hang out afterwards and go play golf or whatever it
33:54
is you knuckleheads do? And how many of these Republicans
33:57
aren't going to show up for this one. Probably a
34:00
few of them. They couldn't be bothered to show up
34:02
for Wexner. You know, you can't really score any political
34:05
points there, so they decided, what the hell, we're not
34:08
even gonna bother going. But then they got in their
34:11
little camper van to go visit the Clintons, right, yeah,
34:15
because it wasn't all about optics or anything. And then
34:18
when we get to Chappaquah, you have the Democrats running
34:21
out every fifteen minutes giving an update about this that
34:24
the other thing, and what we're left with is just
34:26
competing narratives. And then of course everybody ran with whatever
34:30
their confirmation bias told them to run with, and then
34:33
once again, the survivors, they're just put in the background.
34:40
The Oversight Committee later released letters requesting transcribed interviews with
34:45
Goldman Sachs top lawyer, Catherine Rumler, Microsoft founder Bill Gates,
34:49
and ex Bill Clinton aide Doug Band. Hold on, wait
34:54
a minute, transcribed interviews with Goldman Sachs top lawyer. So
35:02
I'm hoping that means actual interviews and not just like
35:06
a letter. I think it means an actual interview like
35:09
we've been seeing. But we'll have to get some clarification.
35:12
You never know when you're dealing with our Congress. Voluntary
35:17
testimony was also sought from Apollo Global Management co founder
35:22
Leon Black, billionaire philanthropist Ted Waite, and Epstein assistants Leslie
35:26
Groff and Sarah Kellen assistants, co conspirators and why aren't
35:32
they being subpoenaed. You're gonna subpoena everybody else but not
35:35
Leslie Groff and Sarah Kelln. Tell me you're not serious.
35:39
Without telling me you're not serious. The Department of Justice
35:42
has released millions of pages of documents from its investigation
35:45
into Epstein, and it's convicted, Madam Golaine Maxwell, you mean
35:49
co conspirator, general, all around, scusbag, bipedal serpent, that's what
35:55
you mean. Right. Since the passage of the Epstein File
35:59
trans Parency Act last November, many of the requested interviewees
36:04
have since faced tough questions because of their chumminess with
36:07
the late Pedal file. In email exchanges, Oh yeah, that's
36:11
all it is. For Leon Black, just a couple of
36:13
email exchanges, and Sarah Kellen and Leslie Groff. Nothing to
36:18
see here, but sure, Anna Pauline A Luna, let's call
36:21
Haley robson a human trafficker. The fuck is wrong with
36:24
you people? I mean, honestly. Lutnick agreed to the voluntary
36:29
interview after an undated photo of him wandering around alongside
36:33
Epstein on the financier pedal files Private Island surfaced in
36:38
official Justice Department disclosures before being removed from the DJ website.
36:43
CNN first reported in an early February hearing before Congress.
36:48
The Commerce Secretary also admitted to lunch with Epstein on
36:53
Little Saint James Island that lasted roughly an hour in
36:56
twenty twelve. An hour for lunch. Oh okay, I guess
37:02
what did you guys eat? I mean in an hour?
37:06
How long does it take to get from the boat,
37:09
How long does it take to get back? How long
37:11
did lunch take? You guys didn't talk. You just ate
37:14
everybody's face down in the bowl like it's a trough.
37:17
I mean, you're all pigs, so it wouldn't shock me.
37:20
But we all know that's not what went down, And
37:23
Howard Nutlick knows that's not what went down, but he's
37:27
gonna shamelessly lie. That's my prediction, just like the rest
37:31
of these people. Because They know that Donald Trump is
37:34
going to pardon them when all this sudden done, so
37:37
they have nothing to worry about. What you think Pam
37:39
Bondy is going to be that kind of abrasive, disgusting
37:43
person if she knew there was something on the line,
37:46
of course, not like internet tough guys. She knew she
37:49
can get away with it, so she did it. We
37:53
left with all my children, with my nannies and my
37:57
wife altogether. We were on a family vacation. We were
38:00
not a part, Lutnick told a Senate subcommittee. I don't
38:04
recall what we did, or I don't recall why we
38:07
did it. Excuse me, but we did. What a weird
38:10
ass statement to make. We left with all my kids?
38:13
What are you going to leave one there? Hey, Jeffrey,
38:16
why don't you babysit little Johnny? Like? What the blazes
38:19
does that even mean? And you left with all your nannies,
38:22
I'd hope. So, considering what we know about Epstein, Maxwell,
38:27
the Dubins, mister Rizzo, and the young Swedish nanny, huh,
38:33
Lutnick copped in adhering to sharing drinks with the then
38:36
registered sex offender the year before in May, which was
38:39
memorialized in emails released as part of the DOJS Epstein Library.
38:45
Republicans and Democrats on the oversight Panel had been calling
38:49
for Lutnik to be issued a subpoena to testify amid
38:52
the deposition of former President Bill Clinton and former Secretary
38:56
of State Hillary Clinton. Oh, maybe one or two like
39:00
Nancy Mace, but besides that, stop it. Let's not act
39:03
like James Comer's been out here ringing the bill. Nancy
39:08
Mace in particular, press Hillary Clinton in her deposition on
39:11
another email revealing what Nick had invited Epstein to campaign
39:15
fundraiser in twenty fifteen during the X First Lady's run
39:19
for president. Everything we know about Jeffrey Epstein, do we
39:23
really believe he didn't go to that fundraiser, didn't just
39:25
walk right next door, didn't donate through whichever beard he
39:30
donated through. I have hard time believing it. I'm sorry,
39:33
but I do. And as far as Hillary Clinton goes,
39:37
come on, I would trust a Taliban dentist in their
39:39
diagnosis before I trusted Hillary Clinton to tell me what
39:43
time it was. You know, I don't know if you
39:45
know this or not, but Hillary Clinton not exactly a
39:48
reliable narrator. The DOJ files also included FBI forms from
39:56
twenty twenty and twenty twenty one alleging a suspicious financial
40:00
relationship between the neighbors. Epstein, sixty six, was found dead
40:04
on August tenth, twenty nineteen, in a Manhattan jail while
40:08
awaiting trial on sex trafficking charges involving young girls. Federal
40:13
investigators and medical examiners later ruled it a suicide. Yeah,
40:17
head debatable at best, especially with the information that we're
40:21
going through now. Oh you thought you saw all of
40:24
it with Michael Thomas's deposition, you haven't seen anything yet.
40:29
I have depositions from everybody now, from the electrical engineer,
40:34
Tovin Owell, the Captain, and Mark Epstein himself. And starting
40:40
tomorrow morning, we're going to be diving into that Mark
40:42
Epstein stuff because it is explosive. The former Bear Stearns
40:50
trader and money manager at for Victoria's secret CEO, Les Wexner,
40:54
had enjoyed relationships with famous academics, influential politicians, and even
41:00
British Royalty before his death. Not just British Royalty, we
41:04
had Norwegian Royalty, we had the House of Sod and
41:07
I'm sure there's plenty of other royals that this dude
41:09
was mingling with that I'm not even remembering right now.
41:14
But it wasn't just the English royal family that's the
41:17
most notorious, obviously because of the Joe exotic of the
41:20
Windsor family and his bullshit. But Epstein was locked in
41:24
when it comes to that kind of circle. Some of
41:30
those associations continued even after he pleaded guilty to soliciting
41:34
a minor for prostitution in two thousand and eight, served
41:37
thirteen months in a Florida state prison, and had to
41:40
register as a sex offender. President Trump supported Lutnik on Friday,
41:46
telling reporters Howard would go in and do whatever he
41:49
has to say. He is a very innocent guy, doing
41:52
a good job. How could you say he's innocent. You
41:56
don't know what happened. I thought you weren't around. But
41:58
one thing you can tell us is that how Lutnik
42:00
is innocent. Perfect. So we have Bill Clinton and Donald
42:05
Trump exonerating people. I'm going to sleep great tonight. The
42:12
picture admissions and records directly contradicted the cabinet officials remarks
42:16
on Pod fourth one last October, when Lutnick said he
42:20
was never in the room with Epstein socially for business
42:24
or even philanthropy. The sixty four year old CEO of
42:28
Counter Fitzgerald recounted to the Post Miranda Divine how he
42:32
and his wife were given a tour of his then
42:34
neighbors infamous E seventy first Street townhouse in two thousand
42:38
and five, including its notorious massage room. They get a massage.
42:43
That's what hismo was. Get a massage, Get a massage.
42:46
And what happened in that massage room I assume was
42:49
on video. The Commerce Secretary said, this guy was the
42:53
greatest black mailer ever. He blackmailed people. That's how he
42:56
had money. Well, that's odd. Didn't Donald Trump in the
43:01
administration tell us that Jeffrey Epstein wasn't blackmailing anybody. That's
43:06
not what he did, That's not who he was. I
43:09
guess Lutnik has other information that they should ask him about.
43:13
But after the visit, Lutnik claimed he never set foot
43:17
in any of Epstein's residences again and never socialized with
43:21
the financier. In the six or eight steps it takes
43:24
to get from his house to my house, my wife
43:26
and I decided that we will never be in the
43:29
room with that disgusting person again. He said, So, look,
43:33
Howard Lutnick, it's time, right, It's time for him to
43:36
answer questions. It's time for Congress to do the right
43:40
thing and ask him the right questions, and it's time
43:44
for him to set the record straight under oath. That way,
43:47
we have everything on record. Right later on down the road,
43:50
who knows what will happen, because I have a funny
43:53
feeling that Howard Lutnick isn't exactly telling us the truth.
43:58
So we'll see when this all gets scheduled and when
44:00
Howard Ludnik ends up going to Congress to answer a
44:04
few questions. All right, Moving on to the second article,
44:08
this one also published by the California Post and the
44:14
headline Goldman Sachs lawyer Kathy Rumler said to face Congress
44:18
over Jeffrey Epstein ties. This article was authored by James Frainy.
44:25
Goldman Sachs outgoing General counsel Katherine Rumler was asked Tuesday
44:29
to testify before the House Overside Committee about her ties
44:34
to Jeffrey Epstein, escalating a Congressional probe into the late
44:37
financier and sex offender's elite network, and this should be
44:42
a no brainer. As much as she was talked to
44:45
by Jeffrey Epstein via email and the positions that she
44:48
held when these conversations were being had. Yeah, she definitely
44:52
needs to be put on the record and we need
44:54
to know what's what. House over PSYE committee chairman James
44:58
Comer wrote in a letter reviewed by the Post that
45:01
the PADEL believes Rumler holds key insights for its wide
45:05
ranging Epstein investigation. Wide ranging is it okay? Sure? You
45:11
mean the investigation that wouldn't go anywhere if it wasn't
45:14
for the discharge petition. That's what you mean, right. She
45:19
was set to appear before the Congressional Grilling on April
45:21
twenty first. It would come after high profile appearances from
45:26
Bill and Hillary Clinton last week before the committee. The
45:30
existence of the letter was first reported by The Wall
45:33
Street Journal. Miss Rumbler welcomes the opportunity to appear before
45:37
the committee. At the time she had interacted with Jeffrey Epstein.
45:41
She was a practicing criminal defense attorney and shared a
45:44
client with him. A rep for the top lawyer told
45:46
the Post she's done nothing wrong and had no knowledge
45:49
of any ongoing criminal activity on his part. A Goldman
45:53
Sach spokesperson declined to comment. Rumler, a former Obama White
45:58
House Council announced last month that she would step down
46:01
from Goldman later this year amid mounting revelations about her
46:05
Epstein connections. What a liar, she knew what he was.
46:09
She didn't care. Okay, that's what it comes down to.
46:11
Like the rest of these people, she didn't care. She
46:15
maintains the relationship was purely professional, sharing a client and
46:19
occasionally advising him, but that she regrets knowing the financier
46:23
who died in jail in twenty nineteen while a waiting
46:26
sex trafficking trial. Rumbler's name surfaced in reporting by the
46:30
Journal as one of Epstein's closest post conviction regulars, despite
46:35
his two thousand and eight guilty plea to soliciting a
46:38
minor for a prostitution. Hell of a guy that Jeffrey
46:41
Epstein can't wait to go over at his house and
46:43
hang out. The fuck is wrong with you people? Guy
46:47
was diddling kids, diddling kids, and you want to go
46:51
to his house. Maybe all of your hard drive should
46:54
be checked two. Epstein listed her as a backup executor
47:00
in a twenty nineteen draft of a will, called her
47:03
the night of his arrest and exchanged chatty emails laced
47:06
with luxury gifts, tens of thousands of dollars in wine,
47:10
handbags and more. Well isn't that nice wine? Handbags? More?
47:15
Who cares about the literally thousand girls with broken lives
47:19
and shattered dreams? I got a handbag and some chicken
47:22
noodle soup out of the deal. She dubbed the creep
47:25
uncle Jeffrey and Sweetee, describing him as another older brother
47:29
in one missive Rumler joined Goldman in twenty twenty after
47:33
disclosing the connection to executives who said they conducted due
47:37
diligence and were satisfied. Well, yeah, they were in bed
47:40
with them too. Are you kidding me? What? Goldman Sachs
47:44
is the paragon of virtue and they only hire good people.
47:48
Financial sector evil CEO David Solomon stood by her, calling
47:54
her an excellent lawyer amid a media firestorm that was
47:57
sparked by a Justice Department document regarding the dead Pedalphile,
48:03
but the continued drip of negative stories fueled unease among
48:06
the financial giants' partners, with her role seen as a distraction.
48:10
According to Bloomberg, I made the determination that the media
48:14
attention on me relating to my prior work as a
48:17
defense attorney was becoming a distraction, Rummler said of her
48:21
planed June thirtieth exit to The Financial Times. Her resignation
48:26
marks high profile Wall Street fallout from Epstein's relationships with
48:30
the elite of global finance, politics, and business. Britain's Peter
48:35
Mandelsson lost his plumb role as UK Ambassador to the
48:39
United States after fresh information emerged about his relationship with
48:43
the shady financier. Another one who had no idea Huh, Mandelssohn,
48:48
smartest man in the room for all these years, pretty
48:51
dumb when it comes to Epstein. Rumbler's testimony could shed
48:57
light on his access to power players on both sides
48:59
of the Atlantic, after the pair was found to be
49:02
sharing their thoughts on media strategy and career advice and
49:05
their lengthy correspondence. Epstein's twenty nineteen death ruled a suicide
49:11
but dogged by conspiracy theories, followed his arrest on charges
49:15
of running a sex trafficking ring involving minors and his
49:19
British madam with this again British Madam. I think what
49:22
you mean is fellow child abuser, human trafficker, bipedal's serpent
49:27
Glenn Maxwell, that's what you meant, right, is currently serving
49:33
a twenty year term on a similar charge. Rumler's White
49:37
House stint under Obama burnished her elit resume, leading to
49:41
a stint at the prestigious law firm Latham and Watkins
49:44
before she joined Goldman. All right, folks, so there it is,
49:48
and when we have more information about when these depositions
49:51
are going to occur, we'll certainly get it added to
49:54
the catalog. All the information that goes with this episode
49:58
can be found is in the description box.