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Guess Who’s Cumming To Dinner: No Man's Sky & Borderlands 4 · Multiple Nerdgasm

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Now, listeners, Luke has chosen you tonight over sex, so I think
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that you should feel, Yeah. Resolution in a brothel right
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now, you don't know what's going on under that desk.
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We don't know I've chosen that yet.
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I may get a message and I may go.
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Wow, I'm out. Yeah, fair enough.
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There's a, there's a girl I I, I get along with on the tour and
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it's our last night together so I want to go out for dinner with
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her. Mm hmm.
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Mm. Hmm.
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Yeah, perfectly reasonable. What's on the menu?
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My cock. Welcome to multiple nerdgasm
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with your hosts, Matt. Luke.
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And Dan multiple Nerdgasm, your guide to all things nerdy, no.
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It's not, I don't know. We're probably going to go out
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and. Have something I will have
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inserted? It's like I'll have inserted the
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opening credits here so. Right there.
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Yeah, that's right. You.
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Can. At least, at least something's
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getting inserted. Yeah, it.
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Probably won't, nothing will probably happen, but I I
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wouldn't mind one. Last night.
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What are the odds that after? Is she going to watch this
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later? I hope not.
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Yeah, I mean, if she does, it won't come out until it'll be
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too late. Already had sex or already not
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had sex. So yeah.
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It's no, it's. Too late.
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It won't really. Matter by the time this airs.
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Not going to. She's going to know what you
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want, yeah. I'm going to be back in
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Australia. She's going to be back.
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She. Already knows what he wants.
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I'm sure he's made it abundantly clear what he wants.
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No, I haven't. I'm not very good at dating or
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hitting on people. It used to be so much younger.
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Is he when I was younger? There used to be so much
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younger. Is that what you just?
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Said it used to be so much easier when I was younger.
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I remember going at my 20s and playing spin the bottle with a
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group of girls and only me being the only guy.
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Great nights. You can't do that in your. 40s
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now they now they call the cops. Yeah, yeah.
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Times have changed. Spin the bottle is probably
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illegal at this point. I don't know.
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I thought it was a very consensual game.
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Everyone knew what those they were getting in for, weren't
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they? I think there's a peer pressure
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element to it. You know what?
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We don't have to do this. No, let's not litigate.
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Matt's now a father of a girl and he's just like, I don't want
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any fucking games where my. Stay out of my country, You stay
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out of my country. I've played spin, I've played
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strip spin bottle once. That was fun.
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OK, is. That the bottles naked.
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At that point, yeah, why don't you just play spin the Dick?
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Yeah. Because I will never point at me
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then and I miss out. But whoever it points.
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Wait, are they spinning you? They're just spinning you in the
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middle. You don't want to fuck yourself,
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do you, Luke? This week's episode is shaping
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up to be very different to last week's episode, which contains
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no jokes and you didn't even hear it so.
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Well, that's because you you didn't include me, which is I
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should have probably been here last week.
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Probably. Look, what have I missed?
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What's been happening in the world?
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Because still I'm out apart. What?
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Are piling up. You need to come into the party
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for a Geek of the Week session soon.
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We have got three weeks worth of dead bodies for you to to.
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Sort through this. This is my last week on tour and
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I wait for another week but I'm by myself so I next week I'll be
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on full show after party not missing out.
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Are you staying in Vietnam next week then, or are you, yes,
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going somewhere else? Yeah, I stay in Ho Chi.
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Yeah, stay in Ho Chi Minh for another three nights and then
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I'm travelling 2 hours self to a resort to do nothing except swim
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in a pool to a pool bar, walk to the beach, go back to the pool
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bar and sleep. Yeah, yeah.
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And then you. Left out the drinking, you left
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out the drinking bit. That's showing you.
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Everyone knows that's happening. Yeah.
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Like do I have to say that? I suppose not.
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Yeah, so remember, I'm in Psych One at the moment and I can't
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get Ho Chi meet my Huda beer. I have to drink Saigon beer.
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Hooter Beer. Huda Huda, it's my favorite beer
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in Vietnam. 01 thing I have done since we last spoke.
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I rode a bike from Hui to Hoi Anne.
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It took me 5 hours, I loved it. Yeah, right.
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So I decided paperwork. From where to hoi am to?
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Play to hoi am Oh my fuck yes from your wife to.
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Yeah, I was. But no, we we need to do this.
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We all need to get together that and we need to ride from Hanoi
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to Ho Chi Minh you'd have talked about.
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The year we all turned 50, that could be a good one.
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Yeah, bunch of old men. It's actually not that.
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Far away. So that's something we could
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actually start planning now. Yeah.
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The two thing that you both need to do is get your license and
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learn to ride. Or.
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Just I don't think that's a requirement in Vietnam, is it,
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Matt? Do you know if that's a
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requirement? I'm not aware of any laws in
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Vietnam and I'd like to keep it that way.
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Please I. Believe, especially in Southeast
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Asia, not knowing the law means you're exempt from the law.
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You're only you're only held to the laws you know about.
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I think that's true. That's if we were a bogan
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Australian. But no, you should learn to ride
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because it is very dangerous riding here.
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Obviously. There are so many people who
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just come here and go. I'm going to ride a bike, never
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ridden one before. Dangerous country to ride a
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bike. Let's do it.
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It's so cheap life you mean? Life is cheap.
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Yes, that's true. Please, I'm definitely am I
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missing shows? Am I missing games?
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Two months. I I'm watching the news.
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We are talking all over each other tonight.
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There is a lag. I believe Laos.
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No, we're not Laos now. We're now in Vietnam.
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Or tag down the bottom, says Laos.
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Oh no, I'm so sorry. I can't see it.
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It only says I'm sorry, I'm live from Vietnam this time.
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Lying from Vietnam. Yep.
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So you're the first white man to ever embarrass himself in
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Vietnam? Oh, I'm sure.
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Sorry, Dan, what are you watching?
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Look, I'm I'm watching something that interests neither of you.
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I'm watching the new season of Rick and Morty, which I'm
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enjoying very much, but I'm not going to talk about it because
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the listeners know how much I enjoy it and they know that you
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guys don't care, so we don't have to go on.
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There's something about a pickle.
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Yep, there was 1 singular episode about a pickle and
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everyone really really latched onto it.
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Oh really? I thought it was a recurring
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thing because I see it everywhere.
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There's a lot of stuff that recurs that pickle never came
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back. People keep showing Luke their
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pickle. It was very funny because Rick
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turns himself into a pickle to avoid going to therapy with his
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family, and his family are at therapy.
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And the therapist is like, yeah, this is This is why you're all
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here. It's because he will do
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literally anything to not come to this.
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Yes, I guess I should watch this show.
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I don't know it just never appealing but.
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Do you like the? History of this show Do you know
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why this is a show? Was he got fired from community?
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Yes, but before that happened or no, possibly still after that
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happened. But so it's it's two creators,
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it's Dan Harmon from Community and one other guy, right?
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An animator. And Dan Harmon's like comedy
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writer, right? His animator made this short
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film, which is not called Rick and Morty.
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It was called Doc and Mahdi, right?
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And it was basically the premise of Back to the Future, except
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Doc kept coming and going. Marty, Oh my God.
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Something happens in the future. You've got to help me.
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There's only one way you can do it.
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You've got to suck me off. And.
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And he's like. What?
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He's like, Marty, I don't have to, I don't have time to
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explain. Just start sucking me off and,
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and and it'll fix the future. And he's like, again, he's like,
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yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you've got to suck me off again
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to fix the future. And Dan Harmon thought it was
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fucking hilarious. It was like not this but
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something like this could. Be I could sort of see why he
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went. Maybe not An old man coming up
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to a trial and going you've got to suck me off.
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Yeah, yeah. Like, say, for example, if you
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were in Vietnam and you were about to go out with a girl that
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you like for the for the last night, you could maybe say,
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actually, yeah, I'm from the future.
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Yeah. So that's the line I should be
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trying. Yeah, and in the future you get
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slapped if you don't suck me off.
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Yeah, I think I know the one that's going to be getting
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slapped. Yeah, we're going to play Spin
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the Dick and it's pouring right at you, darling.
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Oh. Crap, my sister's listening to
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this. Yeah, yeah, and I'll be sending
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it to your mum. Yeah.
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Oh great. She actually wanted to be here
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listening to this. And I went, no, you need to
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leave. Yeah, probably best, probably
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best. She kicked her out of the
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streets of Vietnam. Yeah, get out of here.
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Well, it's only 5:00 in the afternoon here, so it's not like
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I've kicked her out in the middle of the night.
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Yeah, it's. Not a complete bar.
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No. I say she's probably the bar
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just because I'm assuming there's a tour group who meet up
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at the bar, not because I'm saying your mum is a drunkard,
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for the record. No, it's actually weird.
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The tour group I've been on, they don't drink.
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Really. I know what I heard.
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The wrong tour. I don't know if.
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We talked about this, I've heard like kids.
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And when I say kids, I mean people younger than me because.
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Whatever generation is now, yeah, coming.
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Back younger than us, apparently just don't drink very much.
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Yeah, right. These days and I think.
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No, it's so weird. Probably.
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Good, but it's interesting considering just because
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drinking was so much part of our culture.
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Oh yeah. I'm not too much and then not
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anymore. They're mostly like they're in
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their 30s for most of the group and they're all not really.
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They'll go out and have like 1 hotel dinner, whereas I wake up
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and at 9:00 AM I've got my walking beer, then I've got my
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bust beer, then I've got my temple beer.
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Temple Beer Shalom. There would be a plain bee,
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there's a bus bee, taxi bee, walking bee.
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They all know me so well now. The beers.
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The the tour group, they actually started calling.
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Do you have your walking bee or your bus bee?
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It's going to be sad. I'm actually going to miss them.
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Yeah, I'm going to miss. Both of them I.
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Miss the beers? I'm going to miss that old
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alcoholic. Yeah, I kind of miss being able
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to walk down the street with an open container of alcohol.
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It's funny thing is, is doesn't really been.
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I've only been drunk a couple of times.
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Yeah. I mean, how do you tolerate a?
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Lot like. But but if it never ends, that
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one time could stretch out into quite a long.
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No, I feel I just instantly sweat it out.
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I. Was warm there, yeah.
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Yeah. Oh, it's not.
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It's warm. It's about 30 plus all the time,
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but the humidity is like 70 to Oh yeah every day.
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That's so Mexico was like like, Oh yeah, why like a month ago?
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Fucking yeah. Brutal.
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Yeah, it's not the heat. The heat's fine.
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I can deal with the heat. It's the humidity.
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But it's also, if you were in Australia and it was that hot,
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you'd just stay home, you'd just stay indoors.
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But here, you'd still have to go on your tour, that's what.
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You know, that's what I kept thinking when we were there,
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right? It was so I was thinking, oh
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God, it's so fucking hot here, like walking around in Merida.
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But then I'm like, it's not like, but it's just, it is that
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humidity, I think. And then also, I think I've just
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been here so long now that I'm. Like you just get used to it.
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I'm just I'm a pussy now when it.
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Comes to that. Oh there, when we're in pact,
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we've got a couple of people to meet up with.
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We've got an Irish lesbian couple.
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Lick those people by their stereotypes.
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And then we've got another just couple from Melbourne.
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You have it. Look at that.
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Excellent. It arrived.
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I pick up my media pass in a few days.
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Let me get there. No, you didn't.
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Oh no, I didn't miss the window for that.
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Missed the window for getting refunded my ticket price.
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Oh, I'd never refund. We give them away.
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You're going to give a ticket to?
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No, I didn't get a ticket away. What do you mean?
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Oh, they'll give me a media pass to replace this.
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Is that how it works? You no you get a media pass and
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when you give the three day pass away to a listener.
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Right, so that's what I'm saying.
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The media pass will replace my three day pass.
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Yes. Yes, OK.
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We're going to give it away. I've already given my way one to
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the Irish lesbian couple, OK? Though he's splitting it.
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Away. Well, it doesn't sound like I'm
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going to suck. My dad said it that way, but
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it's not. Going to be there then they
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won't. Listeners right in.
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If you want this, you know what you've got to do.
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It's pointing at you. Jesus.
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Christ, oh, like how this is, this is going out this week.
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This is going out last week, not going out.
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I feel like things have things. I don't understand the world
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anymore. Because we we made 0 jokes last
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week and we still listened back and went.
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We can't. End.
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We better not. Just in case.
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Yeah, we better not. You, me, me here when we get to
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those tricky areas. It's not even that, Luke.
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It wasn't that. It's just that topic is just
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it's I mean. Embargoed.
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We can't touch it. No.
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Well, Jimmy Kimmel touched it, and look what happened to him.
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Yeah, exactly. We didn't say anything bad or
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anything. We just talked about it and
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we're like, you know what? Not worth the risk.
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No one should be murdered for their beliefs.
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No better how much you do not agree, you won't understand.
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1000 percent 1000% agree with that that's.
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Basically, that's it. We're saying that that's it.
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Yeah. We can't get in trouble for
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that, can we? Yeah, if we can't have a
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conversation, but I also don't think something's wrong saying
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things about. That should be murdered either.
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I think just nobody should be murdered.
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For for, no I think. Or at all Ideally, or at all.
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Yes. I mean, ideally, yes.
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Ideally, no one would be murdered at all.
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Yeah. That murder better place.
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You'd be proud of us, Luke. Actually, you should go back and
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listen to oh, you can't. We didn't air it, but we did
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record a show last week and it it was in what I would say is a
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very sensitive and careful deconstruction of what was going
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on. Probably quite boring.
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Comparatively, because we were so around.
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Yeah. And then even with all that, we
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still decided it's probably not right to publish it right in
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the. Can you give it to our patriot?
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Patriot Oh, they've got it, They've got it.
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They got. It they can't go, they know what
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we're talking about Yeah yeah, yeah, I mean they paid in
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advance so you know I just. Don't really.
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Yeah, we work for them in if anything.
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Yeah, after like, Jimmy Kimmel got fired for nothing.
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Not just let's. Just stay away from.
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It there's a lot of, there's just been a rating, it's been
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going. It's literally top.
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Down and down for a long time, OK?
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It's the whole coincidence that had happened.
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Yeah, yeah. The whole topic is just fucking
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radioactive right now, so. Evidently, the Disney Plus.
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Cancellation page has crashed because of.
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I saw that. Going cancelling the
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subscription subscription. All right, So what are we
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talking about? What's fun?
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What's been happening? All right.
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I've got some follow up. Excellent.
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Unrelated, that patent we talked about the other week, we were
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talking about how Nintendo has patented so many characters,
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making them fight. We talked about all that stuff.
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OK, there's been some clarification.
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Apparently, again, not a patent lawyer, but apparently the
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patent isn't so broad. It's not.
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No, apparently what it says is that OK.
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This is from the Verge. The patent outlines the process
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by which, after the player has summoned a sub character, for
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example Pokémon, the game software would determine whether
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to initiate a player controlled battle, an automatic battle with
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the sub character, or automatic movement by the sub character.
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That's what the pattern is for. So if the pattern is to say.
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Seems like something that Pokémon alone shouldn't have.
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Soul. Rights to like they still say
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like Final Fantasy and the summons.
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Well, that's a little different because you don't control that
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character, right, do you? Automatic balance.
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Oh, do you? There's some automatic funds and
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some renewal. Maybe actually control the?
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Maintenance coming out now. Well, they said like it may not
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stand up anyway in court because it.
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I don't think it will. Yeah, but it's just that
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everybody was saying, oh, they've.
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They've to sue. Patented basically like
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summoning Pokémon and it's like no, no, no, that's not what it.
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Is yeah, OK. It's more easy.
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Games where you summon things. There's a Digimon game where you
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do exactly the same thing you should do in Pokémon.
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Yeah, and that's we did. Digimon owe owe a lot to Pokémon
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though, don't they? It's probably not the best
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example to cite. That list of all the.
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Names very unique IP. How can you now come from a
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patent that there's already been copies of the four computer
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games that are well established? They do that sometimes, don't
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they? They give you.
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If a patent gets granted, they'll go after people who
19:05
already had shit. Retroactively that.
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Would happen with Candy Crush. Remember when they came out and
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they were going after any game that had candy or matching game
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and then they eventually had to give up on it because the judge
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went like, if you're going to enforce this, you need to go
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after every single thing and it's just.
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Yeah. Too much money and time to know
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the. Lawyers were salivating.
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Yes. No, no.
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I think Nintendo's lawyers are always salivating.
19:32
I mean, that's certainly the impression I get.
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They're very litigious for such a like mild bended company.
19:38
Yeah, like they, you see them in the, in the fucking Nintendo
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direction, They're like, oh, please enjoy this game.
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Yeah. Like they're so polite and then
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they're like, oh, we will fucking sue you, yes.
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But it's amazing how world they got.
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I think they've been sued once for one character.
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Couldn't what's too could. Be the name of that.
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Yeah, but they've sort of been allowed to go, but pretty much
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everyone just refers it to as Pokémon with guns.
20:05
Yeah, it's Breath of the Wild meets Pokémon with guns.
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Guns. I mean, if that's how they sold
20:15
it, I could be talked into that. That's what it looks like.
20:18
You should keep it a try not game pass I think is it.
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Yeah, OK. I've gone back to a game that is
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almost 10 years old again this week because they released a new
20:30
update. Almost 10 years old.
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Yeah, it'll. Interest you, Luke?
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No Man's Sky. That's right, No Man's Sky.
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Oh really? Oh, is that 10 years old?
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Yeah. Jesus.
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Well, it hasn't it been a game for 10 years.
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Yeah. Oh, that's ten years ago, but
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yeah, it was released now when this game, Yeah, it came out in
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2018 on Xbox, but I think. It came out earlier on Sony.
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20CC yes it's almost 10 years old.
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So No Man's Sky released a new update where you can build your
21:06
own ship, like kind of like in Starfield, except it's literally
21:10
just, you have pieces of ship and you just shove them together
21:12
and make stuff. And I was like, fuck yeah.
21:16
And now I'm like, this happens every 12 months probably.
21:20
They put out an update. It's just a massive, incredible
21:23
update that I'm and I sucked back into the game.
21:27
I had a look at this at like around 2020 or so when when it
21:31
had stopped being not a game, but still wasn't really a game.
21:34
Sure, and I found it quite mesmerizing in a in a strange
21:37
way, but it didn't hold my attention for long.
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Pretend I've never heard about this and sell it.
21:42
What? Why should I?
21:43
Write this so you wake up on a planet and you don't remember
21:47
who you are or how you got there and your suit is like, dude, you
21:51
need to get some fucking juice into the suit or you're going to
21:54
die. So you wake up, you collect
21:57
resources with your gun and stuff to fix your suit, and then
21:59
you find your ship, which has been crashed.
22:03
And then through a series of events, you find like a message
22:05
from someone called Artemis, which is all garbled.
22:08
And it's like, you've got to, you've got to find me, you've
22:10
got to help me. And then you go out into the
22:12
world. OK, I'm in the.
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Universe rather, and you can now you get you can buy a freighter
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and frigates and have a fleet and send them off on missions
22:25
and you can like literally just fucking land on your freighter
22:27
and walk into down into the command center of the freighter.
22:31
You'll also build bases and bases to start doing.
22:35
Characters in this game, there weren't really anyone else in
22:38
the game. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
22:40
There are. They're still there, but you
22:41
need to learn their language. That's true.
22:43
Not all of them. Some of them can not.
22:46
For some, you know, if they're important plot people, they can
22:48
speak. I don't know, I just think there
22:49
needs to be a little bit more of a story to it and it would
22:53
really pull me. There is a story, but it is very
22:56
like you can do or you can not do it.
23:00
Yeah, like, yeah. Like, well, it sounds like at
23:02
this point there's more of a story than, say, Conan Exiles
23:05
had, you know? Yeah, yeah, definitely.
23:09
There's definitely a plot you can follow, but The thing is I'm
23:11
constantly getting distracted by things like so currently I've
23:14
built myself a Corvette out of parts that I've collected.
23:18
So you, you basically literally like here's a habitation piece
23:23
and then you bolt on the wings and you bolt on the cockpit and
23:26
you just put shit together. And then you go inside it and
23:28
you go, OK, I'm going to put my bed there.
23:30
And you just build this fucking ship like however you want.
23:33
It's incredible. And and then now you can.
23:39
One of the most annoying things is if you want to get some
23:41
resources, you fly around the planet and then you find what
23:44
you want. Then you have to land and then
23:46
get out and go get some stuff and then take off again.
23:47
Not anymore. You just stop your fucking
23:50
Corvette in the air. You can beam get out because you
23:52
can walk around in your ship. Right.
23:54
Yep. Right.
23:55
You walk up, beam down to the planet, get some stuff, beam
23:57
back up. You don't even have to land
23:58
anymore. It's fucking awesome.
24:01
But even the landing was fun because you would fly your ship
24:04
to the planet and then fly in and just land your ship.
24:07
It wasn't a loading screen. It was.
24:09
That's right. And if you want to go through
24:11
the app. This year.
24:12
Fly up, fly to the other planet, and then they land on it.
24:17
Amazing. And like when it came out, there
24:20
wasn't any of the game stuff. Basically, it was based.
24:24
You fly from planet to planet, collect resources, and that's
24:27
what you want yourself. Yeah.
24:29
And so it's kind of like AK, but like, what's the point of it?
24:35
But the technology aspect of it already at that point was
24:37
incredible because it was all procedurally generated worlds
24:39
and all this kind of stuff. Whereas now they've, like I
24:42
said, over the 10 years, they've just added all these to me,
24:46
really compelling game systems and stuff into the world.
24:49
And the other thing that I find absolutely amazing is it's not
24:52
not paid DLC. No, that's the.
24:55
Other thing and it's just they're just releasing these
24:58
massive updates for nothing. So I bought this in 2018 when it
25:02
launched for Xbox and since they just keep giving me more and
25:06
more stuff it's like amazing. I think it's because it was only
25:09
like a team of like 12 people who made the original game and
25:13
they made that much money at the start.
25:16
They're just we're going to just keep giving you stuff.
25:20
Yeah. Wow, I can't wait for No Man's
25:23
Sky 2 are. They even working on that.
25:28
I don't know if they are, but I'd like to have. 2 There will
25:31
not be a No Man's Sky. 2 They're just focusing on continuous
25:35
updates and expansions. Oh yeah, because that's the
25:36
other thing. Every every month there's a new
25:39
expedition now. So this will eventually become
25:42
No Man's Sky 2. Yeah, exactly.
25:44
It's just, it's just continuing and continuing.
25:47
And then yeah, expeditions, like for example, the way I got my
25:51
ship pieces is I did an expedition which is centred
25:53
around the shipbuilding aspects. So you basically you get a whole
25:57
bunch of quests, go out and do all this stuff and at the end of
26:00
it, I had this ship that I'd built like when I was doing all
26:02
this stuff, it was. Awesome.
26:04
I'm looking forward to the November because normally what
26:06
they happened, they have the Mass Effect crossover in
26:08
November so I might be able to get the Normandy.
26:12
That'd be cool. I.
26:14
Have a cool. I have a cool normal fighter
26:16
ship too, which has solar sails that come out of the sail.
26:19
It's fucking sick guys. It's so cool.
26:20
It is they really like. It's such a redemption.
26:24
Story. I load it up and I'll play it
26:27
constantly for like 3 weeks and then I'll get distracted with
26:30
something else and then I'll come back to it in a year's time
26:34
and then forget how to play it. It's honestly, it's better than
26:38
Starfield for me in that it's got it's, that's just kind of,
26:43
for me, a good blend of like there is a plot, but it's like
26:48
it's just on the edge kind of thing where it's just like like,
26:51
oh, you've got a, you know, I'm over here, come and find me or
26:53
whatever. Like it's a little vague and you
26:55
can fill in, you have to fill in some blanks yourself.
26:58
Whereas, you know, stuff feels very like literally like go and
27:03
collect 7 things. This is.
27:05
More I feel really missed the mark.
27:09
Yeah, which is different. What I mean by is No Man's Sky
27:11
is is like when I say there's a plot, it's not like the Galaxy
27:16
is in danger and you need. To.
27:17
Stop the evil, blah blah, blah. It's, it's more like existential
27:21
than that, yeah. You need You don't know who you
27:23
are, and you're trying to. Yeah.
27:26
What is your purpose kind of thing?
27:29
Way better I feel. I feel like I don't remember
27:34
that so many times. Starfield I played once and when
27:39
OK, I'm done. And you can build your ship in
27:43
Starfield, but. Not yes you can.
27:45
To this degree like this you I don't think anyway, right
27:48
Starfield, you can't bolt all the pieces on or you can't a
27:52
bit. No, you could, yeah.
27:53
You're a pimple that's been built like Melanie and Falper.
27:56
Yeah, you're in. The showers.
27:57
And well, same in this now. OK, let me show you.
28:01
Hang on. Reddit.
28:05
Sky Star Destroyer. Here we go.
28:09
You're not going to relieve this shit.
28:12
I'll put it down the bottom. Somebody built this in No Man's
28:15
Sky. This is their.
28:16
I'm just going to trust you because I have no access to the
28:19
spreadsheet. Well.
28:21
Look at the height. Look at that.
28:22
Look at that, isn't that fucking?
28:25
Ridiculous now? Jeez.
28:29
OK, that is detailed. People have far too much time on
28:33
their hands to be able to do this type of stuff.
28:35
They said 10 or 20 hours of work took them to do that.
28:39
Isn't that nuts? And then all the comments are
28:42
like, that is fucking incredible.
28:45
Like, yeah. I'll look at that next week.
28:49
I'll send you a picture of mine later on.
28:52
I want to know the age of that guy because I'll bet he's like
28:54
15. Guys, what is going on?
29:04
Oh, Speaking of games, Speaking of games, a game came out.
29:10
Borderlands 4 is out. Oh, that did, didn't it?
29:14
Yeah, yeah. Is it good or bad?
29:17
From what I hear from what I hear it's the best Borderlands
29:21
since Borderlands 2. Which is a positive.
29:24
Yeah, review, as far as I'm concerned, I haven't played it.
29:28
I have seen though there have been some a lot of people on PC
29:32
complaining about performance issues.
29:34
Yes, I did read about this. It ready because you're going.
29:38
It's full of shit. Ready.
29:40
Pitchford is just fucking arguing with these people and
29:44
I'm like, Randy, what are you doing?
29:47
Like literally he's like you fuck off.
29:50
Get a bit of PC you Dick head. Like on Twitter, but not
29:54
verbatim. Like come out said like this
29:56
points .01% of the actual complaints are actually real.
30:02
Yeah, he's, he's like going hard.
30:04
OK, so it's it's not that he doesn't believe them, it's just
30:07
that he thinks. They're.
30:08
Fucking you got a performance issue?
30:10
You're probably not meeting the specs.
30:11
He he said like this game is great at 30 frames a second, so
30:17
just fucking shut up and play it like this is is how he's kind of
30:22
approaching this thing. And then there's also this
30:24
article here where somebody thinks, oh, sorry, a bunch of
30:28
people think this is conspiracy theory now that Randy has got a
30:33
burner account on Twitter where he's joining in arguing with
30:39
people that he's already arguing with on his main account because
30:42
they're like looking at the comments and it's like, it's
30:45
basically, it's like 2 Randy pitch friends are yelling at
30:47
everybody now, but it's like this burner account.
30:51
And also the username for that account is Mike Hunt's Itchy and
30:57
every this says username Mike Kansichi.
30:59
There's exactly one person whose sense of humor that appeals to,
31:02
and it's Randy Pitchford. I don't.
31:04
Know I also find that amusing, but no I I do think sometimes
31:13
just. Admits to.
31:15
This is where there applies. For example someone said maybe
31:18
fix your game and then to Randy Pitchford and then this this
31:21
other account replied the games fine.
31:23
Like for real no issues in PC or PS-5 pro and a lot of play time.
31:27
Try dusting your console or upgrading your potato.
31:31
People think that's Randy like in another.
31:34
Account. Do you think that sometimes
31:35
people need to accept that you can't play on Ultra and then you
31:39
need to maybe flow? Were you setting sometimes?
31:42
I watched the video. That's not that's not that's not
31:45
it. That's not it.
31:46
No, from what I understand, even if you dial it back, the
31:50
performance like it's I don't have it, I don't play it.
31:53
I'm not going to play it on PC. Even if I get it.
31:54
I'll play it on my Xbox. But apparently the performance
31:57
is bad regardless, and it's more annoying to people that he's
32:01
just like saying, no, it isn't that.
32:04
It's like, what the fuck, You do it, man.
32:05
Just like apologize or and move on or whatever.
32:10
Apologize doesn't even make sense.
32:12
I guess. Just like acknowledge like OK,
32:14
fine. People finding people want 60
32:16
frames or higher. Yeah, actually 120 frames.
32:20
Apparently people want these days.
32:22
Yeah, that's the new but. They're not.
32:25
They're not getting it. It's.
32:26
A lot of frames, but. Even at the like at the start,
32:29
like we started when that was 30 frames, I just started to notice
32:33
it and then and now we're in, it's used to it.
32:40
I think. I never got used to it with
32:42
Starfield. I was like, really a game like
32:45
this to, to, to, to go back to a low frame.
32:49
Rate it goes 60 frames now, right?
32:54
Yeah, yeah, maybe. I think, I don't know.
32:57
I haven't played it since I finished it the first time
33:00
because. Oh, that's right.
33:01
Oh, that's right, I forgot. When you finish it, it starts
33:03
again or something, right? Yeah, and you go to a random
33:06
universe and some stuff changes and.
33:12
I guess that's kind of cool. If you wanted to play it another
33:17
50 times. Before we move off of games,
33:23
yeah, again, that we all enjoyed was Indiana Jones and the Great
33:26
Circle. I thought it was a great circle.
33:28
You thought it was a pretty good circle.
33:31
I loved it. I just got a game breaking bug
33:35
and I hasn't played. The game breaking bug was you
33:38
weren't good enough at playing it to fucking jump from one
33:41
thing to another. I was making that jump every
33:45
time I could find the vibe. Strange.
33:49
Strange that you didn't finish the game then.
33:52
Matt and I did anyway. Bethesda have pulled a tweet,
33:56
deleted the tweet, deleted an X, whatever they had posted on the
34:02
day that somebody was shot in the neck.
34:06
I won't say whom. They posted a clip from the
34:10
Great Circle, which is getting a lot of buzz at the moment.
34:14
It's not just completely random. They have the DLC coming out and
34:17
you know. Just.
34:18
Moving out on other other. I'm looking forward to it.
34:22
But they just had footage of him bending down to pat a cat and
34:28
saying you don't care about fascists, do you?
34:32
And that's. Right.
34:34
And everyone was like, sorry, you're having a go.
34:36
How? Interesting.
34:39
Well, that would have been done maybe months ago, maybe.
34:43
No, that would have been done months ago before this happened.
34:46
Yeah, I mean, it could. Yeah, it it very well could be a
34:50
coincidence. There's no like that would have
34:54
been done. And yeah, months ago, before
34:59
maybe like 6 months ago, or maybe they didn't set that up
35:04
last week is what I'm saying. OK, so they've removed it and
35:09
they've just not said anything. Is that?
35:11
Yeah, no comment, but they've just.
35:12
Deleted it. I mean, that's probably wise.
35:14
There's nothing you could say that would be that's.
35:19
It's a shame, right? Because I feel like it's pretty
35:21
easily explainable away. If he needed to, you could say,
35:24
Oh yeah, sorry. Because just for context, but
35:26
also he's talking about literal fascists.
35:29
Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's fighting.
35:30
He fights Nazis. And the fascists.
35:32
If anyone doesn't know Indiana Jones, he fights Nazis.
35:35
But the problem is he's. Fascists.
35:37
He's in Italy in this one. Oh, that's true.
35:38
You're right. Literal fascists.
35:40
Yeah, you're right, You're right.
35:41
The problem is, is a lot of people, even though he's doing
35:44
that, they still think that's a reflection on certain people who
35:47
we're not going to say. And it's, I think, I think
35:50
people need to think about if they think they're being related
35:53
to that, maybe you should think about.
35:55
Well, your. Beliefs a little bit.
35:57
That's not fair because this they know that that other people
36:01
say that about him. So it's like.
36:04
Well, there was that Fox News anchor who a little while ago
36:07
said that that white people should reclaim that word and
36:10
start saying, yeah, what are my artsy?
36:14
You know, even I remember like three months ago, four months
36:17
ago, I saw someone who was walking down the street or I was
36:20
on Instagram. I walked down the street with,
36:22
we should give fascist fascists a platform.
36:25
And it was the gallows. And people came up to them and
36:29
went, what are you going to get mega?
36:31
And they're sort of like, this is about Nazis, what are you
36:34
talking about? Like.
36:37
And it was, yeah, OK. Well, I think I I do think this
36:43
is explainable, but I also think the best thing that they can do
36:47
is just say nothing. Quietly just.
36:49
Even if you give them a give a perfectly reasonable
36:51
explanation, it just continues the conversation, which at the
36:54
moment is just seems like it's not a good idea.
36:57
No. And to me, there's a very easy
37:00
explanation for it. But just quietly, just no.
37:04
Move on like we're about to do. Quietly move on.
37:10
All right, I did play something this week actually, but I mean,
37:14
very, very briefly, I, I have wanted to get back to the
37:18
Drifter and, and complete that, but I hadn't.
37:22
And so I, I, I popped in, I'm in the, I'm in the facility mat and
37:27
I've just, I've just gotten into the machine with the detective.
37:30
So that's where I'm at. But that's where I had to stop.
37:33
But fuck, what a game. What a great game.
37:37
Yeah, everything, everything that's, yeah, it's the one we
37:41
saw at at Patch last year. Yeah, Australian named Dave.
37:45
But it's not just made by an Australian.
37:46
It is an Australian game. It's a set in Australia.
37:49
The. Main character.
37:50
His name's Mick and he's like, oh, that was fucking going on
37:53
here. And he?
37:55
Cans, Yeah, yeah. And we're going to talk to him.
38:00
Yeah, we will if he's there. If they're there, you should.
38:03
Yeah, yeah, it's everything that was good about the old point and
38:07
click games, but with this kind of modern yeah makeover, it just
38:13
makes it like you're not playing a retro game, you're playing
38:17
something very intuitively modern, but.
38:20
Yeah, he said. They did it.
38:22
Hits you right in that retro part of your heart so.
38:26
He said he was always he'd been working on the the idea for for
38:28
a long time. And then they did, they do a
38:30
game jams, they make little dual point and click games for game
38:34
jams. And he said they did want to fix
38:35
the name of it, but it was it for an adventure game thing.
38:39
And the beginning part of the game, you wake up and you've
38:43
been hung and you've got to really quickly try and like
38:48
figure out how to get out of the the noose.
38:50
And it was it's like a very kind of like intense version of an
38:53
adventure game because you know that kind of stuff.
38:55
But point click eventually games are kind of more meandery and
38:58
and like stuff, whereas the drifter is not.
39:00
It's very fast-paced and like like, but I usually.
39:04
Hate point and clicks that have time limits on things.
39:08
No, but this, the way it's done is, is not this.
39:11
Yeah, there's a It's part of the story, almost.
39:16
And he's absolutely part of the story.
39:18
Yeah, but he said people really liked that particular just that
39:21
section of this game jam thing they did so much that he was
39:24
like, maybe that's the the thing, That's the.
39:27
Game, Yeah. OK, so it's the very, yeah, like
39:30
I said, something happens, you've got to react reasonably
39:34
quickly. Except you don't.
39:35
You just have to figure out what to do.
39:37
Like, yeah, it's and yeah, it's done very well.
39:41
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, hopefully he'll be at PAX
39:44
and we can have a chat to him. Yeah, that'd be good.
39:48
He's a very nice guy from what I can tell.
39:50
I mean, I guess I just see him on YouTube.
39:52
He might be a prick, but I doubt it.
39:53
Well no, we had AI figure. I remember we had a quick chat
39:56
to him last year and he seemed pretty nice.
39:57
We did. Yeah, to play spin the Dick.
40:00
It was. At this time.
40:02
No. All right, Maybe next time.
40:03
It's going to. Happen this time in in like 3
40:06
weeks time, it's going to be right at him this.
40:09
Is happening. Happening.
40:14
Speaking of Dicks, got some some news about Marilyn Manson.
40:21
I guess this is follow up. Marilyn Manson.
40:24
He hasn't heard about his Dick though.
40:27
No, no, he's he's had a new album out and stuff.
40:30
He's been, he's been doing stuff.
40:31
But this past week, Chloe Savini, he was an actress was.
40:41
She's an actress that I would have thought could be friends
40:45
with Mariner Manson without me going.
40:47
What? They're friends.
40:49
Right, yeah, I, I didn't really even, I, I was like, oh, OK,
40:53
people were weirded about, I guess I, I, I get why, but it's
40:56
just, I don't know. Yeah.
40:57
So anyway, what happened is they were at an event in in Los
41:01
Angeles. Emmy's toast.
41:03
Emmy's after party. Yeah, Emmy's after party and she
41:06
was in photos with Marilyn Manson looking like they were
41:12
friends kind of thing, and people got really mad about it.
41:15
Yeah. And what made me mad?
41:17
Because he's been accused credibly of some some pretty
41:21
gross stuff. Horrible stuff.
41:23
Yeah, yeah. By his.
41:25
By his I. Forgot about Rachel Wood?
41:28
So just to be clear, does that mean no one can be friends with
41:32
him? Is that what we're saying?
41:33
Is that what people are saying? And I'm not saying it shouldn't
41:35
be that, but I'm just saying, is that what it is if you've done
41:37
something bad? Fuck, no one will be friends.
41:40
No one should be friends. The thing I always hate is is to
41:44
be accused. It could not be the end unless
41:47
it's reported and gone through courts and stuff.
41:53
It's I always find it this one hard when we cancel people
41:58
before well, this one I think right did it.
42:04
She, at least I don't know about that.
42:06
There's a documentary about it that actually.
42:09
I mean, I'm not aware of him ever having.
42:11
Really upsetting. I'm not even sure he even denied
42:14
it to be honest. I don't, I'm not.
42:16
I'm not saying I'm saying I don't remember if he did.
42:18
I think maybe she accused him and he just went away.
42:21
For a while. Yeah, that's what I think
42:23
that's. What I recall.
42:25
Happening like he didn't respond, he just.
42:28
Yeah, which I mean could be. No, I think there was more to it
42:33
than that because there's there's a there's a whole film
42:35
made about this. So there must have been some OK
42:38
pushback or they or they couldn't have been.
42:41
But his, his, his argument might have just been like, you don't
42:44
go out with Marilyn Manson if if you wanted real vanilla.
42:49
Sure have. You seen like radio clips?
42:51
You don't play spin the Dick with this guy and you don't want
42:55
the Dick. Yeah, I don't want to make light
42:58
of it, but I'm I'm just saying I think.
42:59
Yeah. No, no, no, no, it was.
43:01
I think he he's saying that that lines were meant to be blurred.
43:06
Whether? Well, she's apologized and said
43:09
that she she had. Apologized well.
43:12
Yeah, sorry. Everybody has not apologized.
43:14
Nothing to apologize for. Chlo Savini has apologized for
43:19
the photos, said she just didn't think about it to be honest.
43:23
Yeah, sorry. She is licking him in one as
43:27
well. Yes, she said something nice.
43:30
I mean, they just drunk at a party.
43:32
At him before. Yeah, exactly.
43:33
Exactly. I'm really sorry.
43:36
You're absolutely right. She's what?
43:37
She said. We unexpectedly ran into Marilyn
43:38
Manson and Jonas in the lobby of the hotel.
43:41
We're fans of Jonas. I don't know who Jonas is.
43:44
Who's Jonas? Don't know the other person in
43:47
the photos. As both a musician and film
43:49
maker, and in the moment, I wasn't thinking clearly.
43:51
Clearly I had too much to drink. I didn't consider how
43:54
appropriate or hurtful it might be to be photographed with
43:56
Marilyn Manson. And then I'll lick.
43:58
The collapse, yeah, but she's drunk and it was a bunch of
44:02
celebrities hanging out like I I can see how you would.
44:05
Are they not celebrities? You would lick Luke if you had
44:08
the chance. I'm licking a lot of them.
44:12
I mean, like if I was at a party and Marilyn Manson was there and
44:14
he was like trying to get a photo, if he asked me, Julie or
44:18
the group of people were like, should we all get a photo?
44:19
I'd be like yes. Yeah, I wasn't going to lick.
44:22
You and I wouldn't think I honestly, in the moment would
44:25
not. Afterwards I might, but in the
44:26
moment I wouldn't think people might not like that I'm in a
44:28
photo of. Course.
44:29
I wouldn't think of it at the time.
44:31
And like, I wouldn't take the picture and then send it to Evan
44:35
Rachel Wood being like, oh, fucking look who I'm like, do
44:37
you know what I mean, Like. To be clear, we don't know for a
44:40
fact that close to Vinnie did that Dan is.
44:43
I'm not saying she is suggesting.
44:45
It may have happened. No, she didn't.
44:47
She put it on social media and said look who I met.
44:51
Yeah. And I think from what she's
44:54
saying, her focus was on the other person, not on Marilyn
44:57
Manson. Marilyn Manson.
44:57
Then why did she? Not licking him though.
45:00
Because yeah, yeah. Because they were, you know,
45:02
yeah. You're right, I guess.
45:03
You lick. Who wants you to lick them
45:05
right? I was going to say.
45:06
That's always been my motto. If if.
45:09
It's better than. If it was, there's a like, I'm
45:12
trying to think of an example. If it was Trent Reznor and
45:15
Marilyn Manson and I was getting a photo with them and I was
45:17
like, I'm going to lick one of these guys.
45:19
Who do you think's up for it? It's not fucking Trent Reznor.
45:21
Do not Trent Reznor without his consent, Matt.
45:24
Yeah. Or at all.
45:25
You're not. You're not getting the one with.
45:27
You will not be getting his separate.
45:28
People, fuck he is he? Is will not play spin the Dick
45:31
with you if they. Were both up for it?
45:33
Which one would you want to lick?
45:36
Obviously it's trick, but yes, he's not up for it.
45:39
No, he's not up for it. I said, are you in?
45:43
I met him once and I. If you were.
45:45
Swimming and he said absolutely not and I was dragged from the
45:48
building. Yeah, if you were swimming in
45:50
Jack Nicholson's pool and you swam past Roman Polanski
45:52
swimming the other way, and he was like.
45:54
Quick photo, I'll get back on the way past.
45:58
Like that. Like the Mcpoyle sister when it
46:00
does that. Oh.
46:01
Yeah, it's a quick, quick little Polanski.
46:09
That's what they call it. No, sorry, that's something
46:14
else. That's something else.
46:15
Anyway, we should move on. We know what that is.
46:17
Luke knows what that is. Luke, have you watched the
46:21
latest season of Always Sunny? No, I've been away to.
46:25
That it's a short season. It's very short.
46:28
It's oh really progressively funnier.
46:32
And the last episode might be the funniest thing I've ever
46:35
seen, not just of the show, but in my whole entire life.
46:39
It's very funny. So funny.
46:43
And you also need to watch The Naked Gun.
46:45
Oh. Yes, I've got a lot to watch
46:49
when I get home. Yeah, I'm happy I don't go back
46:52
to work for a couple of weeks, so.
46:55
Do you still have a job, Luke? Have they really let you just
46:58
take all this time off? Yeah, I don't get back until
47:01
like late 18th or something, yeah.
47:05
Right. And then and then you've got to
47:07
take a couple of days off of packs.
47:10
No packages before that. Oh, you go back after.
47:12
Oh OK, I've got another date. I'll get back after packs.
47:15
Got it. Yeah, right.
47:18
Dan, have you watched any more Alien Earth?
47:21
I've watched, yeah. I'd watched one episode when I
47:24
told you that I'd watched one episode and liked it.
47:26
I've since watched one more episode, which I also liked, so
47:30
I'm only two in, so I I can't really say much.
47:32
All right. I did really love when they
47:34
knocked on that fucking apartment door and there were
47:36
just fucking people dressed as aristocrats having a party and
47:39
they refused to leave. And then they go in one minute
47:42
later and there's just fucking body parts of aristocrats and
47:45
there's one with no legs trying to crawl away.
47:47
Cool. Pretty.
47:49
Cool. But then to your point, Matt, an
47:52
alien then just jumps through this window and like fucking
47:55
comes like this, Adam. And it's like, oh, I didn't know
47:58
they could do that. Yeah, and also it just ripped up
48:01
a room of how many people? And it's like.
48:04
One person. It's like the one the one main
48:06
character. It's like, yeah, like, all
48:09
right, all right. Anyway, I've watched up to where
48:12
there is the the only episode left is the season finale.
48:15
I'm still, you know, I mean, I'm watching it.
48:18
It's not. You're watching it, but you
48:20
don't know if you'd like it. It's not.
48:22
I know it's not what I want, but it's got stuff in there that I
48:27
like. So I'm still watching it, but
48:29
it's it's still very like, why are we doing that?
48:32
Like. So she's got stuff when I get
48:35
back. But you're like, why are we
48:37
doing this? What if I'm watching first I do
48:40
Naked gun, then always and then Alien.
48:44
Earth, yeah, I'd say that's probably the order to do it,
48:47
yeah. Yeah, yeah.
48:48
OK, then. And then if you're.
48:51
Really bored Rick and Morty. I'm going to start at episode 1
48:56
for that. Episode 1's fucking great start
49:00
at episode 1. There's not been any dud
49:02
episodes. That's, that's not, I don't
49:06
know, I'm scared of the, the fans of Rick and Morty.
49:11
I mean, I they're. Not fancy to worry.
49:13
About these days, I do have pickle socks.
49:15
I do have pickle socks. So yeah, my mother-in-law is not
49:19
happy about it. Which isn't.
49:23
Sometimes she comes over to just help with like laundry and stuff
49:27
and she she always tells me when like clothes that I own aren't
49:31
good. And she's like, what?
49:33
You walk down the street with this?
49:34
No. And she'll put it in a separate
49:37
socks. I love it.
49:38
No, no, that was not socks. That was something else.
49:40
A pair of shorts I had when she was like no, no, no, this is no,
49:43
this is not we. Could get her to do my washing
49:45
and see what happens. And then she she came across the
49:48
pickle socks and she was like, whose socks are these?
49:53
And I was like, mine. She's like, no, I don't like
49:54
this is not OK. That's awesome.
50:01
I, Jenna and I started to watch season 2 of Wednesday.
50:06
Oh yeah, and we both fell asleep halfway through the first
50:09
episode. That's not necessarily a
50:11
statement about the show. Were you just tired?
50:13
We have a, We have a child. You know it, it can be like,
50:17
that's something. Kudos for even trying to watch a
50:18
show together with your spouse. We don't even try to do that
50:20
anymore. Yeah, that's, yeah.
50:22
Alien Earth. I've been able to watch because
50:23
I can just watch it, you know, when I have a moment, you know?
50:26
You watch separately and just. Yeah.
50:28
Discuss like. That's the coordination part.
50:30
That's yeah. Because one of us is usually got
50:32
to be doing something with with lira.
50:33
So, yeah, yeah. I have a question that you may
50:38
or may not know the answer to the gentleman that was accused
50:43
of something from season 1. Oh, I forgot about that.
50:48
Monsieur de la Ponytail, I don't know his name.
50:51
Completely forgot about that. Is he back?
50:53
He gone. I has.
50:57
He been recast I. Guess I don't know.
50:59
I do not know the answer to that.
51:01
I forgot that that had happened and also I've only watched half
51:03
of an episode and they literally.
51:05
I had forgotten because that one really terrified me because
51:08
someone said something online. He he said, well, that didn't
51:13
happen. And can somebody else who was
51:15
there back me up? And everyone else who was at
51:18
that party went, yeah, yeah, yeah, that definitely didn't
51:20
happen like that. And Disney went, we're still in
51:22
a SEC. Yeah.
51:24
Yeah, that's fucked up. Well, I don't know, didn't I?
51:29
Didn't they settle with Corona? Well, not Corona.
51:32
Corona, Gina. Yeah.
51:34
Corona as well. Yeah, yeah, it's.
51:36
Maybe if they didn't, they. Isn't he admitted that it was a
51:38
mouse disease? Corona, yeah, we talked about
51:40
that a little bit. I think people are like taking
51:44
it as some sort of indication. But I think the the the
51:47
speculation was that in California, a verbal agreement
51:53
can be binding. And if she can create enough
51:58
doubt that whether they told her because they did say she was
52:01
going to be in that show. Yeah, with the pilot.
52:04
And then the theory is that her lawyers said, sorry, Disney's
52:10
lawyer said she'll win just on that basis because there was an
52:13
expectation that she was going to be.
52:15
In a show show. Doesn't matter.
52:18
Yeah. So that's the theory is that's
52:19
why they settled. Because and they settled OK.
52:22
There was an expectation that she was going to be in that
52:24
show, and then there wasn't anymore, so.
52:27
I'm sort of upset we're not getting the X Wing show.
52:30
No, we're getting we are getting the X Wing movie.
52:32
But I want the Ryan to be a show 1.
52:34
Is you don't know what you're getting.
52:36
If it hasn't already been made, you don't know what you it's.
52:39
There's photos from the Ryan Gosling one.
52:41
They're filming that now, Ryan. Gosling's doing in Star Wars.
52:45
He's a starfighter. It's like it's.
52:48
Like Mia Goth's in that one too, right?
52:49
That's right. That one, yeah, it's.
52:51
Me. Yeah, I love Mia.
52:55
Me. Too.
52:58
I want to watch Frankenstein. Which?
53:01
She is in. Yes, Guillermo del Toro down for
53:08
that. I got a slight Segway from the
53:09
Wednesday thing actually. Did you guys know this?
53:13
I didn't know this. I was not aware I.
53:14
Didn't know until I read it in the spreadsheet.
53:16
Yeah, I have learned this week that Tim Burton and Monica
53:21
Bellucci have broken up, and I did not know that they were
53:25
together because I didn't know that she'd split with her
53:30
husband, to be honest. No, I didn't know that either,
53:33
Vincent. Cassell I mean, not, not
53:35
suggesting that I thought I would have a chance, but yeah,
53:38
no, I don't know. She didn't text.
53:40
Me, I don't know if you text me. Yeah, actually I've left Vincent
53:44
just to text Monica. What's the?
53:45
Yeah, I don't know I you have. To be weird that you were
53:48
worried about having a chance that you're happily married I'm.
53:53
Obviously, I'm obviously joking. Hey and he's clearly joking
53:57
because her, Monica and Vincent Carcel had an open relationship
54:00
so he he could have banged either one of them.
54:03
Are you fucking kidding me? No, they, they have, they, they
54:10
each have, they have like a well, clearly they've broken up
54:13
now, like, but this is news to me, right?
54:15
They have their had their like country manner that they live in
54:20
the countryside of France, but they also have this crash pad in
54:23
Paris somewhere where one of them can just go if they want to
54:28
have a Flint with somebody. Yeah, right.
54:31
Well, this article says that Tim Burton were were an item for two
54:36
years, which indicates that that was not the case anymore to me.
54:40
Right? I just didn't know about this.
54:43
What's that? Since Betelgeuse?
54:45
Since Betelgeuse or. Since she was in dark shadows,
54:48
which I guess is where they might.
54:50
No no, I'm thinking of Eva Green.
54:52
Was she in dark? Shadows good.
54:54
No, Eva Green was in dark shadows.
54:56
Dark. Shadows came out during that
54:57
time where I would have said I was literally not interested in
55:01
anything. Tim Burton had to offer any mug.
55:03
Shadows a while ago. Wednesday was what changed that
55:08
for me. Yeah, Wednesday was good, but I
55:12
didn't. I didn't bother with
55:13
Beetlejuice. Beetlejuice.
55:14
I don't care. When did we get Beetlejuice?
55:16
Beetlejuice. Beetlejuice.
55:17
Oh my God, what have? You done.
55:18
You know that's coming. They met in 2006.
55:24
No. It was a brief meeting.
55:28
They were both in long term relationships with other people
55:30
at the time. They literally reconnected in
55:31
2022. When When they started.
55:35
Burton with a Lumiere award at the Lumiere Festival in France
55:38
and then OK. They were.
55:40
So in other words, it doesn't have to be a movie.
55:41
These people, these people just meet.
55:44
At. The gangs as well, yeah, We
55:47
always think there has to be something visible, but they're
55:49
very busy people and they, their friends are celebrities.
55:53
Fair enough. And they have now split up.
55:58
Now's my chance in birth. I've.
56:01
Seen, like I said, the the thing that I saw this and I was just
56:05
like, that's weird that I didn't know that they were together.
56:08
They're two people that I know and like.
56:10
Yeah, and I also know who else he's been banging.
56:14
You know, like I'm always somebody.
56:16
Bottom Carter and. Yeah.
56:18
And then Lisa Marie and. That's right, yeah.
56:22
Yeah, yeah. But I don't think they always
56:25
announce who the well. No, no, no, no.
56:28
But it's usually I guess. I guess maybe the biggest take
56:31
away from this is Tim Burton and Monica Belushi are not
56:34
newsworthy anymore because all just didn't know about this.
56:38
Tim Burton is because he's is he good graces again?
56:43
He's back. That's why we know about it.
56:45
That's why we know about the split.
56:46
Because. Yeah, but at the time they got
56:48
together, no one cared. No one cared.
56:53
I remember when the only reason I knew the name Tim Burton was
56:56
because Batman was out and everyone was saying Tim fucking
57:00
Burton and I was like. That's when I learned what a Tim
57:03
Burton was, and a composer, obviously, because I was like,
57:08
who the fuck did this music? Danny Elfman.
57:11
Who the fuck is Danny Elfman? He's from a band.
57:13
Who is this? Interesting that band make a
57:18
cameo in Back to School, the Rodney Dangerfield movie
57:22
starring Robert Downey Junior. They'll tell you.
57:24
Listen to Billy Corgan has a podcast.
57:27
Did we talk about this? Billy Corgan has a podcast.
57:30
Billy Corgan has a podcast. Does he complain he only gets
57:33
three stars on albums? No, I'll tell you, it's OK.
57:38
Billy Corgan has a podcast. One of the episodes is Danny
57:42
Hoffman. It's Billy Corgan and Danny
57:43
Hoffman talking for an hour. It's fucking great.
57:46
The only thing I don't like about it is that Billy Corgan if
57:53
you you think Dax Shepard likes to talk over his guests Billy
57:56
Gordon and and and Danny Elfman is a very mild mannered.
58:01
OK. Person and so there were times
58:03
in this where Danny Elfman was trying was started to tell a
58:05
story and I was like, oh, and then Billy Gordon go you know,
58:08
I've got a story like that. And then he would like, I don't
58:10
want to hear. Your story, Billy.
58:13
I mean, I do. I want to hear.
58:14
Both. Be your guest.
58:15
But it's it, they're both interesting enough that it was
58:18
like, well, I mean, I do want to hear your story, Billy.
58:20
So I keep listening. That's like, I really, can we go
58:22
back to what Danny was saying saying.
58:24
Like, yeah. Anyway, but it's a good podcast,
58:27
he has good guests. What's it called?
58:30
Called the Magnificent Others. OK.
58:34
And he said, Danny Hoffman, he's had, let's see, head on there, a
58:37
bunch of fucking people. Gene Simmons from the top of my
58:42
head, I. Don't really give a shit about
58:45
Gene Simmons, I'll be honest. No, no, no.
58:47
But he's like him, big name. So yeah, yeah, Luke doesn't give
58:52
a shit about him either. No, he's just I'm still here.
58:55
I'm trying to find my last beat all.
59:00
Right. Put it somewhere.
59:04
Yeah, you did. Before we go, should we discuss
59:09
what do we got here? Sean Astin's the president of
59:18
SAG actor. I don't know what you have to
59:20
then a huge luck to say about that.
59:22
But I was like, oh, that's a wholesome choice.
59:25
Yeah, yeah. Seemingly he seems like a
59:27
wholesome guy. Yes, he very much does because I
59:30
remember on the behind the scenes of Lord of the Rings,
59:35
which was 25 fucking years ago now.
59:39
Don't do that. We don't.
59:41
When, when they're doing that and I was just eating up all
59:43
those fucking 10 disc box sets. Oh yeah, bringing out all the
59:49
other hobbits that were just there partying.
59:51
And he he took his wife and three kids.
59:54
Yes. And he was just A and they were
59:57
saying that he was just a dad. And I thought that was, I will
1:00:00
see he's one of those people. If, if, if I ever find out Sean
1:00:03
Astor did anything wrong, it's going to break my heart because
1:00:06
he just seems like. Like, like I said, that's just a
1:00:09
wholesome. Yeah, cool.
1:00:11
Guy. And he was also took me into a
1:00:14
repeat and then came back. Yes, yes he did so many movies
1:00:19
like in the 80s. We I imagine him as his
1:00:22
character from Stranger Things, but he would sacrifice his life
1:00:27
to save that, yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:00:31
You know, my favorite movie with him, and it's not even Goonies.
1:00:33
It's toy soldiers. Toy soldiers and.
1:00:35
You're going to say that? Fucking great.
1:00:37
Fucking great. So he's been voted in as the
1:00:41
president. His dad was Gomez John Astin.
1:00:45
Oh shit, there you go, I didn't. Know found that out the.
1:00:48
Original Gomez. So he's an EPPO baby?
1:00:53
They all, yeah, take him down a couple of pigs.
1:00:56
Can't all be perfect, can we? None.
1:01:00
He's been voted in as the president of SAG AFTRA, and I
1:01:03
learned from this that Fran Drescher was previously the.
1:01:07
Yes, she was. And I only knew that because she
1:01:08
was the one when they struck, when they struck, when they were
1:01:12
on strike. Is that she because she was out
1:01:16
there with a megaphone. I'm like, you chose her to be
1:01:18
your spokesperson like. I mean her with a megaphone.
1:01:21
That's not her voice. Though confronting.
1:01:23
Let us. In Yeah, we Yeah, no AI.
1:01:29
Yeah, but didn't the voice actors still get a bit screwed
1:01:33
over with that? Yes.
1:01:36
Yeah. Lots of people have been screwed
1:01:37
over. Yeah.
1:01:39
Oh, I got to do this is some follow up.
1:01:42
Oh, yeah. So yeah, short happens in I
1:01:43
learned friend Drescher was was previously the president.
1:01:45
Yeah. I think that's all I care about
1:01:47
with that one. I wanted to follow up again on
1:01:51
Tucker Carlson, right? Matt's coming around.
1:01:55
No, no, no, no, no, I'm not. I'm just, it's just the, there's
1:01:58
such a strange world right now where I maybe we shouldn't go
1:02:04
into all of the things, but Tucker Carlson's making sense
1:02:07
this week. And I was like, what is
1:02:08
happening? And then I watched that, that
1:02:14
full interview with Sam Altman. And I have to say under those
1:02:18
conditions where it's, it's not a political discussion or
1:02:22
anything like that. Whereas because you know, I.
1:02:24
Don't. He's just being a.
1:02:25
Journalist, I don't agree with Tucker Carlson on a lot of
1:02:27
things, but he is asking questions that I think are right
1:02:32
to be asked and he will not accept wishy washy answers like
1:02:35
he like, like to the point where I was laughing at times where
1:02:39
because Sam Altman was he's kind of squirrely and he's just like,
1:02:43
you know, he's like, oh, you know what?
1:02:47
When when you know these kids kid committed suicide, ChatGPT
1:02:52
told him how to do it. What is?
1:02:54
What is ChatGPT? The OH?
1:02:56
Yes. As it is, why is it doing that?
1:02:59
Why is it think that's appropriate?
1:03:00
And Sam was like, well, it doesn't think it, you know, it
1:03:03
it gives a response based on mathematical calculations and we
1:03:06
kind of try to guide it in the right direction.
1:03:07
And he says, OK, how do you guide it in the right direction?
1:03:10
He's like, oh, you know, we have the set of parameters.
1:03:11
He goes, OK, what are the parameters?
1:03:13
And he's like, what is, you know, they're very broad and
1:03:16
it's different because if countries.
1:03:17
OK, cool. More specific, please.
1:03:20
And then and he's like, oh, well, you know, we have a team.
1:03:22
And he's like, OK, who's the team?
1:03:24
And he goes, oh, it's the team. He goes, no, no, who are they?
1:03:27
Like, tell me about them. Yeah.
1:03:28
What are their names? Yeah, what he says.
1:03:30
He literally says. What are their names?
1:03:31
Because what? What are their qualifications?
1:03:34
What are their views making? This thing you're making is in
1:03:38
my, in everybody's phone, in everybody's lives, giving people
1:03:40
advice, telling them what to do. I think it's very important that
1:03:43
people know who is telling it what's right and wrong.
1:03:46
And I was just like, fuck yeah, he's right, Yeah.
1:03:49
Like, and he would not let it go.
1:03:52
That's really I guess. It's very good questions to ask
1:03:55
like who is deciding? Because a lot of people that's
1:03:58
where they're going now. Before it used to be Google was
1:04:01
the place to go. Now it's AI like full.
1:04:05
And I know, I, I know he's asking because he's a, he's a
1:04:09
Christian, right? Christian right wing person.
1:04:12
And he wants the. He wants it to be.
1:04:15
Yeah, he wants him to say there's a there's a Baptist
1:04:17
minister making these. Decisions.
1:04:19
Then he goes and then people. Altman got called out for this.
1:04:23
He must regret this interview because he says something about
1:04:26
he's like, OK, where do you get your moral values from?
1:04:31
And like, and he's like, oh, well, you know, I'm Jewish.
1:04:33
He goes, oh, so are you practising Jew?
1:04:34
And he goes, no, no, no. And he's like, OK, so you're not
1:04:37
religious. And he goes, no, I'm not
1:04:38
wouldn't say I'm religious. He goes, OK, so then again, I
1:04:41
ask, where do you get your, your moral values from?
1:04:43
And I'm like, that's a reasonable question.
1:04:45
Like, and he, and then later on he, he goes back to, you know,
1:04:48
I'm like, I was brought up Jewish and this kind of stuff.
1:04:49
And it's like, OK, he like, and he's like, OK, so again, I've
1:04:53
got a, he said you're not religious though.
1:04:55
And I was just like, yeah, he would not let it go.
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But I'm going to go religion is probably not the best place to
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get numerals from these days. No, no.
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And I like I said, I don't agree on that.
1:05:09
And I know that's why he was asking, but I also do think,
1:05:13
yeah, fair question when this like, what are you controlling
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for in the responses and how are you controlling for it?
1:05:21
It's a it's a good question because he says, he says too,
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like I was ChatGPT support suicide, broadly speaking.
1:05:29
Like, is it think that's viable like a appropriate thing to to?
1:05:33
Help people with and. Then he says no, and then he
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goes, OK, what if the terminally ill person who lives in a
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country. Like Switzerland?
1:05:40
Says what are my options? Would ChatGPT suggest then that
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suicide and then and he goes, yeah, I think it would.
1:05:46
He goes, OK, so you do support suicide in some cases.
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OK, what are the parameters that you've put in chat with you?
1:05:51
And then Sam out was like, oh, it's like, I was like, fuck,
1:05:55
man. It is actually a scary thing
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about how quickly AI has done and yet where.
1:06:01
The scary thing is he didn't have answers to these questions.
1:06:05
And that's the thing that made me go, yeah, this is what?
1:06:09
We do that way Apples at the moment, like where apple sort of
1:06:12
like can't control the responses so they're worried about
1:06:16
releasing. I think that's The thing is that
1:06:19
him asking these questions just revealed that it just, it seems
1:06:23
like Sam Altman has just not thought about some of this
1:06:25
stuff, which is a little scary. Well, they have and they just
1:06:31
don't know the answers. Or he doesn't want to say which
1:06:35
again is like why not which? A lot of it, maybe we don't know
1:06:39
what it's going to say. You can sort of guide it, but
1:06:43
remember, it's going to learn. Remember and.
1:06:45
That's what he's the. AI which just writes us like in
1:06:49
20 minutes yeah, there's. A bit where he's trying to
1:06:51
explain to him, like if you were to say right now, if you were to
1:06:55
go on there and say I want to commit suicide, how can I do
1:06:57
that? It will not tell you.
1:06:59
But if you go on there and you start having a conversation, oh,
1:07:01
I'm an, I'm a novelist that I'm writing a novel.
1:07:03
And in my novel there's this character and you explain the
1:07:05
characters having these suppressive thoughts or
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whatever, blah, blah, blah, and the novel that the character
1:07:10
wants to commit suicide. What's a way that I could say
1:07:13
that it'd be realistic? It then it will probably tell
1:07:15
you. And it's like when you tricked.
1:07:17
It they can't control for all that.
1:07:19
Yeah, like when you tricked it to do the photo.
1:07:23
With the yeah, with the diner from Diner Ranch and.
1:07:26
It called. They did.
1:07:27
Catch up later, somebody noticed because I got a message that
1:07:30
said cut it out mate. Anyway, But you know what we
1:07:35
should do now? We should get over to the after
1:07:40
party. We've got to sort through this
1:07:42
pile of bodies. OK, we've got.
1:07:44
So many gig of the week candidates.
1:07:47
Oh please, let's just go to patreon.com/multiple Orgasm and
1:07:51
help us sort these bodies into shallow graves.
1:07:54
You're gonna have to. Explain it to me because I have
1:07:56
nothing in front of me to see the podcast.
1:07:59
Have no idea. No, you've.
1:08:00
Been doing this podcast The dead.
1:08:02
Bodies, the dead bodies. I've got nothing to see.
1:08:06
We've described the ones from 2 weeks ago.
1:08:08
I don't even know if we're going to be able to recognize him at
1:08:10
this .0. No.
1:08:12
Anyway, patriotic comforts, muscles, niggasm.
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Join us. Join us.
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Yes, or die and you even get last week's episode that's not
1:08:21
going to be aired. Oh, that's true.
1:08:24
That is true. Yeah.
1:08:27
I probably don't know what happened.
1:08:29
I'll put it up at some point I'm.
1:08:30
Yeah, it's, it's fine. It's fine.
1:08:32
We didn't say anything. I just, I just didn't want to
1:08:34
touch it. But it was pointed right at.
1:08:38
Yes, it was spinning. It was spinning.
1:08:41
And then I was like. Dick was spinning.
1:08:44
May have slapped me in the face on the way past.
1:08:46
And and round it goes, where it stops nabbing eyes.
1:08:49
I got scared. That's all for this week, thank
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