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The Bigfoot War of 1855 - Remote Viewing Investigation · The Cryptid Huntress

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  Speaker 1: Ye, well, good even everybody.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome in to the crypton Hunters Channel. I'm Rose Jessica Jones.
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  Speaker 2: I'm the Cryptid Huntress, and man do we have a
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  Speaker 2: really fantastic show lined up for tonight. It is what
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  Speaker 2: we've all been waiting for, the long awaited Bigfoot War
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  Speaker 2: of eighteen fifty five. We've got it here. Tonight. We're
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  Speaker 2: going to be just discussing the Bigfoot War. We're going
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  Speaker 2: to get into the legend and the lore behind it,
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  Speaker 2: and we're going to get into the remote viewing data
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  Speaker 2: of it. We're going to find out if this is
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  Speaker 2: really real? Okay, did this really happen? I'm learning that
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  Speaker 2: a lot of these legends and a lot of the
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  Speaker 2: lore that we hear about a lot of them, a
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  Speaker 2: lot of those things probably happened. Okay, So grab your popcorn. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: grab the popcorn and to get ready because we are
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  Speaker 2: in for a really fun wild ride tonight. It's actually
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  Speaker 2: not super fun talking about people getting ripped apart, and
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  Speaker 2: so I mean, it just depends, I guess, but with
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  Speaker 2: this one, it's this is a it can get kind
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  Speaker 2: of graphic tonight, So you guys just be forewarned. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: We've got another rabbit hole to dive down tonight, and
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  Speaker 2: I have Doctor John stay here in the studio and
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  Speaker 2: so I'm going to pull him up in just a moment.
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  Speaker 2: All right, y'all, Well, let's let's see here. Let's take
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  Speaker 2: care of some business real quick. If you guys would
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  Speaker 2: like to follow along with all of my shows, I've
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  Speaker 2: got an archive of all of them over on my website,
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  Speaker 2: along with the calendar of events. Different events I'm going
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  Speaker 2: to be at, including the Georgia Bigfoot Conference is coming
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  Speaker 2: up in March. Doctor John is going to talk about
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  Speaker 2: that a little bit tonight. That's his conference. He's organizing that,
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  Speaker 2: and so I will be there speaking at that event.
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  Speaker 2: Also I'll be at We'll see, there's a UFO conference
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  Speaker 2: coming up. I'm going to let John go down the
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  Speaker 2: list when he gets up here, because we've got a
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  Speaker 2: UFO conference. We've got what else we got? Oh, and
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  Speaker 2: I've got the East Alabama town Hall as well. So
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  Speaker 2: that's January the eighteenth. January the eleventh, I'm going to
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  Speaker 2: be hanging out with doctor John and that crew in
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  Speaker 2: North Georgia. But on the eighteenth we're going to be
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  Speaker 2: in East Alabama. I think that's an Opalika if you
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  Speaker 2: guys want to come hang out. I did get some
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  Speaker 2: bad news, y'all. MK Davis is not going to be
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  Speaker 2: able to make it to that. He had to back
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  Speaker 2: out yesterday or over a couple of days ago. So
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  Speaker 2: I'm kind of sad. Okay, I'm a little bit sad,
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  Speaker 2: but it's still going to be a wonderful event. They're
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  Speaker 2: looking for someone else to come in and take his place.
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  Speaker 2: Nobody can take MK's place, Okay, but we're we're gonna
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  Speaker 2: have some really great speakers there and so I hope
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  Speaker 2: you guys will come and join us at that January
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  Speaker 2: the eighteenth, and I think it's Opalika Alabama. Okay, wah
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  Speaker 2: wah wah. I'm just kidding. It's going to be a
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  Speaker 2: wonderful event no matter what. Also, I have, well see,
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  Speaker 2: That's that's a long ways away though. Okay, and here's
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  Speaker 2: the Georgia Bigfoot Conference March twenty second. Like I said,
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  Speaker 2: we're going to talk about that here in just a
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  Speaker 2: little bit with doctor John. Okay, well, let's get into
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  Speaker 2: our show tonight because we have a lot to talk about,
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  Speaker 2: a lot to talk about, and it's a cold night
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  Speaker 2: in Georgia. It finally got really cold. I actually just
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  Speaker 2: came in from the woods too. I've been in the
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  Speaker 2: woods since last week pretty much off and on. My
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  Speaker 2: team was out in the woods again this week working
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  Speaker 2: on a project. And I was there till almost midnight
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  Speaker 2: last night in the woods at the meadow actually, so
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  Speaker 2: you guys will hear more about that coming up. We've
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  Speaker 2: got some interesting projects in the works and stuff. So yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I was with Cryptid Warfare last weekend, asog this week,
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  Speaker 2: and yeah, I think I'm taking the weekend off though. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: no more woods. Well let's get into the Bigfoot War
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  Speaker 2: of eighteen fifty five, shall we. In eastern Oklahoma, the
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  Speaker 2: Native American Chochaw Indians and local farmers were experiencing a
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  Speaker 2: rash of stolen and ransacked goods from their homes and
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  Speaker 2: their farms. We're talking about food supplies, you name it.
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  Speaker 2: They set up traps and they tried to catch what
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  Speaker 2: was taking all of their stuff. Eventually, women and children
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  Speaker 2: started disappearing. They were getting kidnapped apparently, and we're not
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  Speaker 2: being seen again. So of course, the people banded together
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  Speaker 2: and set up a hunting party to catch whoever was
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  Speaker 2: taking their people. Joshua Lafour, a French chop tall man,
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  Speaker 2: led the hunt party, and a man named Hamas Tubby
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  Speaker 2: of the chair of the chop tall and his six sons,
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  Speaker 2: who were giants. I mean, I guess today we would
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  Speaker 2: kind of consider them kind of giants. I got some
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  Speaker 2: tall uncles. Right, they're like six six or something. They
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  Speaker 2: were taller than that, they were like seven feet tall.
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  Speaker 2: They all went on into the forest on horseback. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: and a band of basically warriors going to go find
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  Speaker 2: out where their women and children had gone. Looking for
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  Speaker 2: the culprit, they charged into the woods where they encountered
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  Speaker 2: a horrible smell reeking of what smelled like death. Several large,
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  Speaker 2: ape like, hairy, bipedal creatures stood beside a heel of
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  Speaker 2: dead bodies and body parts. This is according to the
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  Speaker 2: legend and the lore there. Each of these creatures stood
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  Speaker 2: at least eight feet tall. The three of the creatures
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  Speaker 2: confronted the men and swung at the men and their horses,
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  Speaker 2: striking them down. One of the men was decapitated, and
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  Speaker 2: it was a fierce and bloody confrontation. Ultimately, the Chalktaw
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  Speaker 2: Indians were able to defeat the hairy creatures. So is
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  Speaker 2: this legend true? We're going to find out tonight. It's
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  Speaker 2: been passed down in oral tradition in stories, and I've
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  Speaker 2: heard a lot about the story. Actually, I've heard a
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  Speaker 2: lot about it, and I've always wondered myself. And it
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  Speaker 2: was tasked to me as a blind coordinate root viewing target,
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  Speaker 2: and we have some interesting data tonight, and to help
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  Speaker 2: me explore this topic and this alleged event. That is,
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  Speaker 2: it's like the alternative history, right. I have doctor John
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  Speaker 2: Stamy here. You guys will know doctor John from Scary
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  Speaker 2: cast from Bigfoot and Company on YouTube, and he also
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  Speaker 2: is an organizer of many UFO conferences, bigfoot conferences and
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  Speaker 2: comic cons all over the South, all over the Eastern
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  Speaker 2: seaboard over here, So please help me. Welcome to the show,
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  Speaker 2: our good friend doctor John Stamy.
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  Speaker 3: Hey Joe, Hello, Hello Jessica. How are you doing.
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  Speaker 2: I'm excellent, I'm excellent. Thank you for joining me tonight.
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  Speaker 2: This is going to be an interesting topic.
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  Speaker 3: I'm so glad we discussed this a couple of weeks ago.
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  Speaker 3: I definitely like the idea of this topic. And I
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  Speaker 3: would like to go ahead and start out with a
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  Speaker 3: proposition that I firmly believe, and that is and John Lemy,
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  Speaker 3: the noted paranormal author. He's got a series of books
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  Speaker 3: on UFOs, he's got some information on bigfoots and ghosts
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  Speaker 3: and legends in the Southwest. And John and I believe
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  Speaker 3: the same thing. We believe that where there's smoke, there's fire.
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  Speaker 3: I think about eighty percent of these legends, what they
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  Speaker 3: call legends and folklore, are truly based on fact. There's
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  Speaker 3: too much out there about the Chalk Tawk Bigfoot War
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  Speaker 3: of eighteen fifty five for me to think that it
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  Speaker 3: really didn't happen. Now, I asked John LeMay this afternoon.
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  Speaker 3: I said, well, John, there don't seem to be any
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  Speaker 3: stories out there, no newspaper stories or anything. He said, John,
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  Speaker 3: he was eighteen fifty five, The chalk toss had just
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  Speaker 3: gotten to that part of Oklahoma twenty years previous lead
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  Speaker 3: you know, about eighteen thirty three, eighteen thirty four, and
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  Speaker 3: there were no there were not necessarily any any newspapers
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  Speaker 3: around that would even report that. So don't let that
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  Speaker 3: deter you in thinking these stories aren't real. Because he said,
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  Speaker 3: I've read a good bit about them, and these stories
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  Speaker 3: seem extremely true. They seem extremely accurate, and I frankly agree.
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  Speaker 3: I would say that of all these legends we hear,
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  Speaker 3: eighty percent of them are truly based on fact, twenty
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  Speaker 3: percent or not. It's the old eighty twenty rule. Jessica,
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  Speaker 3: what do you think about my statement there.
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  Speaker 2: I agree. I agree too, And it is through all
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  Speaker 2: these remote viewing targets that I've been given that I've
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  Speaker 2: come to that conclusion as well, after analyzing the data,
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  Speaker 2: you know, because people give me these targets not knowing
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  Speaker 2: for sure, especially you know, I love it when Barry
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  Speaker 2: gives me targets very little. Ten will give me targets
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  Speaker 2: of stuff, and he's expecting me to you know, he
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  Speaker 2: doesn't know if they're real or not. The majority of
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  Speaker 2: the time they are. They seem to have a lot
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  Speaker 2: of data that come out of them, out of the
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  Speaker 2: coordinate numbers that he gives me. And uh, and so
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  Speaker 2: we have to assume he and I assume that they
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  Speaker 2: are real. And the legends, the lore behind whatever these
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  Speaker 2: you know, target Sea gives me are are probably real.
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  Speaker 2: Otherwise I wouldn't be getting all that kind of data
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  Speaker 2: out of them. So it's it's wild, it's super wild.
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  Speaker 2: And uh. And to hear about a Bigfoot war, okay,
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  Speaker 2: it just sounds it sounds almost to some people, it
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  Speaker 2: sounds cartoonish, like this just can't be real. But you know,
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  Speaker 2: here on the Crypti Hunter's channel, we know Bigfoot's real, right.
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  Speaker 3: John, We absolutely do. I've had four visual experiences with Bigfoot.
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  Speaker 4: Uh.
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  Speaker 3: Three of them have been pleasant and just pretty much visual.
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  Speaker 3: One was terrifying, and so I know what I think,
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  Speaker 3: and the Bigfoot is real, and you know it's funny nobody.
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  Speaker 3: In fact, I'm sorry I've had five because I just
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  Speaker 3: had one recently with Bill the dowser up in lake Mont, Georgia.
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  Speaker 3: He's going to be coming to the Georgia Bigfoot Conference
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  Speaker 3: and telling and he and I are going to be
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  Speaker 3: telling about our experience together in dowsing and the knocks
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  Speaker 3: that we heard there were very specific, so we're going
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  Speaker 3: to be talking about those. That will be the weekend
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  Speaker 3: of March the eleventh in Demerist, Georgia. That is the
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  Speaker 3: home of Piedmont University. Demerist is about ten minutes from Cornelia,
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  Speaker 3: so it's just right up there in the Georgia Mountains.
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  Speaker 3: It's a beautiful spot. We're going to be hosted on Saturday,
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  Speaker 3: I'm sorry, on Friday and Sunday by my friends Andy
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  Speaker 3: and and oh gosh, I can't even think of his name.
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  Speaker 3: Andy and Joe who own the RM Rose Distillery. They're
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  Speaker 3: gonna host us there. We're gonna have a lot of fun.
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  Speaker 3: You're gonna be there as far as I know on Friday,
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  Speaker 3: and along with Matt Delfin, we're planning another event on Sunday.
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  Speaker 3: We'll see how that goes. But you know, the Georgia
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  Speaker 3: Bigfoot Conference is this is its eighth year and it
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  Speaker 3: just keeps kind of growing and getting bigger, and people
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  Speaker 3: enjoy it, and I'm glad they do. I mean I wouldn't.
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  Speaker 3: I would hate to think what it would be like
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  Speaker 3: to have a year Well I did. I had to
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  Speaker 3: find out one year what it's like not to have
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  Speaker 3: the Georgia Bigfoot Conference when we had COVID. But it's
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  Speaker 3: just so much fun to see so many great friends
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  Speaker 3: and it's wonderful. So I'll just put that plug in
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  Speaker 3: the March the eleventh weekend Georgia Bigfoot Conference at Demmer
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  Speaker 3: in Demorrist, Georgia at Piedmont University.
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  Speaker 2: And that's the website right here. So we're gonna have
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  Speaker 2: that website updated Georgia Bigfoot Conference dot org where you
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  Speaker 2: guys can get more about the upcoming conference.
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  Speaker 3: It's actually I actually updated it last night. Oh perfect,
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  Speaker 3: All right, well, yeah, your picture is up there. You're
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  Speaker 3: the keynote speaker, and we've got pictures and we have
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  Speaker 3: more coming. We have a list of all the people
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  Speaker 3: that are going to be talking, and you can buy
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  Speaker 3: tickets too, because it's going to be fun as always
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  Speaker 3: and I'm really looking forward to it. So yeah, you
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  Speaker 3: can go there or Georgiabigfoot Conference dot com either one.
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  Speaker 3: They both go to that dot org site that has
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  Speaker 3: all the information as of right now, we will have
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  Speaker 3: more information coming up soon.
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  Speaker 2: Well, thank you for allowing me to be a part
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  Speaker 2: of that. It's always really great. It's the best. I
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  Speaker 2: love your Bigfoot conferences. I've been able to be there
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  Speaker 2: in the past two years and speak and it's really
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  Speaker 2: fun and a lot of great people show up. A
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  Speaker 2: lot some of the people in our chat tonight were
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  Speaker 2: at your conference last year, including John Fortman and Coco
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  Speaker 2: that are in here right now. So it's a wonderful event.
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  Speaker 2: If you guys are in Georgia in March, come hang
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  Speaker 2: out with us. It is a lot of fun. So
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  Speaker 2: thank you, John, I appreciate that for.
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  Speaker 3: Letting me be a part of it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, Well, we know that there's a lot of
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  Speaker 2: bigfoots in North Georgia. As a matter of fact, I
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  Speaker 2: was at an undisclosed location yesterday, okay, with my team.
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  Speaker 2: We're actually at the meadow, I'm not I can't say
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  Speaker 2: where it's at, Okay, but it's somewhere here in the South.
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  Speaker 2: And one of the guys with this Joel Thomas. Actually
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  Speaker 2: you might know Joel. I can't remember the name of
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  Speaker 2: his name. His new podcast is called Down the Rabbit
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  Speaker 2: Hole or I can't remember the name of his podcast now,
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  Speaker 2: but he is a good friends with Tony Merkle, and
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  Speaker 2: they were out at the meadow with us this week.
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  Speaker 2: Tony's got the Confessionals podcast, and they were out at
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  Speaker 2: the meadow yesterday and Joel saw what he believes to
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  Speaker 2: be a bigfoot out there while we were there yesterday
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  Speaker 2: at the meadow. So uh, I was surrounded by bigfoots
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  Speaker 2: yesterday apparently, Okay, out there, and so we know we
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  Speaker 2: know down here around the South, and apparently there were
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  Speaker 2: a lot of big foots around. I guess the chalkhaw
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  Speaker 2: were mostly We're in Mississippi, I think would be one
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  Speaker 2: of their regions.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, they were in the Mississippi area, and then because
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  Speaker 3: of the Indian Relocation Act passed by Congress, they took
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  Speaker 3: they were part of the Trail of Tears where they
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  Speaker 3: were made to walk from their traditional home up to
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  Speaker 3: southern Oklahoma, which was a horrible experience for them. It
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  Speaker 3: was something that never should have happened, but it did.
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  Speaker 3: You know, a lot of things happened back in history
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  Speaker 3: and they don't tend to happen anymore. But it was
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  Speaker 3: a mess, and they got up there and this all
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  Speaker 3: this stuff started happening, like between eighteen thirty five and
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  Speaker 3: eighteen fifty five, the chalk Taw were learning their new
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  Speaker 3: hunting grounds, they were learning all about the terrain the
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  Speaker 3: place there. They were starting to get really organized and everything,
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  Speaker 3: and then all this trouble started happening, I believe in
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  Speaker 3: eighteen fifty four. And it came to a head in
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  Speaker 3: eighteen fifty five when Joshua the Floor got his men
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  Speaker 3: together to go out and hunt for these renegades that
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  Speaker 3: were doing these horrible things, stealing their animals, stealing their women,
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  Speaker 3: stealing their children. And that's when all this happened, was
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  Speaker 3: in eighteen eighty five.
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  Speaker 2: Was it fifty five? I think it was fifty five, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: eighteen fifty, yep, fifty five. Okay, Well, it's got to
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  Speaker 2: be pretty terrifying having so many they had missing women
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  Speaker 2: is mostly women and children, right, and it's not uncommon
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  Speaker 2: to hear stories about women and children going missing and
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  Speaker 2: being kidnapped by bigfoots back then, have you are you
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  Speaker 2: familiar with stories like that?
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  Speaker 3: Well, yes, i am. I've read. May has a number
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  Speaker 3: of stories in his books where he's done a lot
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  Speaker 3: of research, and I have read stories that, yes, bigfoot
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  Speaker 3: can even imitate very closely the sounds of humans, and
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  Speaker 3: they can lure children and women into the forest and
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  Speaker 3: they are never to be seen again. However, it's not
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  Speaker 3: all bigfoot in general. The bigfoot have a really wonderful
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  Speaker 3: reputation with the Indian tribes, at least in the southeast.
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  Speaker 3: It's just a few seriously bad apples that have caused
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  Speaker 3: the problem. So, and that's the way it is with humans.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, if you look at it, human behavior is
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  Speaker 3: a little bit like a bell curve. Most everyone's in
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  Speaker 3: the middle. They're average, they're normal, A very small portion
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  Speaker 3: are really wonderful to do lots of kind things, and
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  Speaker 3: a really small other portion on the other side of
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  Speaker 3: that bell curve do a lot of terrible things. So
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  Speaker 3: I think the behavior is very much human like in
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  Speaker 3: terms of some good, some bad, and a lot of average.
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  Speaker 3: And they have got a lot of good rapport. Actually,
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  Speaker 3: I have an article from the Chickasaw Heritage Foundation and
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  Speaker 3: I was going to use that this past weekend at
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  Speaker 3: the Molina Bigfoot Conference, but we had a little problem
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  Speaker 3: with our with our av so I didn't do that.
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  Speaker 3: I did some stories that I knew, but there's there
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  Speaker 3: are a lot of instances where the Bigfoot traded with
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  Speaker 3: the Indians, they helped them and everything. I would say,
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  Speaker 3: really it looked like about eighty percent had good relations
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  Speaker 3: with Bigfoot, and about ten percent had exceedingly good relationships,
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  Speaker 3: and ten percent had awful relations like what happened to
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  Speaker 3: the Choktaws down there in southwestern southeastern Oklahoma.
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  Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah, you know, the majority of stories that we
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  Speaker 2: hear about bigfoots, especially back then, would they don't seem
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  Speaker 2: to be super violent, Okay, And you don't hear a
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  Speaker 2: whole lot of stories about this. Of course. The bigfootwork
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: of eighteen fifty five is something that I just found
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: out about about a year ago. I had been hearing
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: I kind of heard about it. I had not really
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: looked into it much but here we are, Okay, here
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: we are today. It was tasked to me as a target.
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: But you know, we hear about wildman more than we
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: do bigfoot, I guess, and sasquatch throughout the eighteen hundreds.
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: I think a lot of the stories about bigfoot and
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: sasquatch became pretty popular in the newspapers, especially around the
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: nineteen twenties. Okay, nineteen twenties, early nineteen hundreds. Before that,
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: it was mostly stories about wildmen, which I think that
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: wild men could be sasquatches too. Okay, I've talked about
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: in that in previous shows. Think there were different categories
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: of wild men. There's different categories of bigfoot. As a
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: matter of fact, I have a chart. Hey, we're going
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: to look at this chart for just a second. We
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: typically categorized bigfoot into four different categories. There's the patty type. Uh,
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: there's the chimpanzee type. They look kind of more you know,
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: primitive primate. Like we have the gugway, the ones with
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: the long snout, the genosquads, and then we have the
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: wild man. Okay, the type four sasquatch that are more
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: kind of Neanderthal type. Now, the ones that we're going
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: to be talking about tonight. I believe they were more
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: of kind of maybe the Patty type, or I mean,
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: they could have even been more of a type three,
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: the violent type, the ones with the snout, because they
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: seemed as though they were eating humans. According to the
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: legend in the.
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: War right they were and the wild men. Now, Lyle
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: Blackburn has a story in his book Momo the Missouri Monster,
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: And I asked him about it. He said, he said,
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: you know, John, I couldn't find out much about it
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: other than they said they met a wild man in
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: the woods. They captured him, they took him to jail,
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: and he actually spoke English, fairly broken English, but he
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: spoke English, and they ended up let letting him go
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: because they figured he was more of a feral type,
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: just kind of living on the land, never shaved and
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: it was just a little bit of a mess. But
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: he never really did cause a problem. But there were
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: others who did cause a problem, maybe like the Gugways.
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: We don't know because that I mean, we don't know
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: what Teddy Roosevelt had to deal with. We don't know
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: what Daniel Boone had to deal with. You know, the
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: type of Sasquatch that they had to deal with. But
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: you know, and we'll never know, but it is a
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: fact that Daniel Boone did. He believes he killed a bigfoot.
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: Teddy Roosevelt had that story in The Wilderness Hunter about
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: those two hunters that went out and one of them
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: got torn up by bigfoot and the other one just
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: tore off and left because he was terrified. So we
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: don't know, but that that's enough proof because you've got
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: two great wilderness figures and they have talked about something
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: like a bigfoot.
• 23:26
  Speaker 5: M h.
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: Yes. And you know what I was thinking when we're
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: looking at this map of Mississippi where the chop Taw lived,
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: their regions where they inhabited, I'm thinking of dogmen reports too.
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: That's modern day dog man reports to this day, because
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: we've got places like Taylor, Mississippi, a lot of dog
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: man reports. And the place where I went with my
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: team Cryptid Warfare Operators is not too far from right
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: beside Mississippi. Actually we're in Alabama, and North Alabama actually
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: was where we went on that dog Man investigation. You know,
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: actually kind of aggressive bigfoot sort of reported up there.
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: I think what we encountered while we were out there
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: would be more in one of my teammates encountered with
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: their family. I think that they encountered more like aggressive
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: bigfoots up there. But however, there's also dog men up there,
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: especially in these areas. And now you want to call
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: them dog men or werewolves or whatever you want to
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: call them. There's all sorts of critters out there in
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: those woods.
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: Okay, So there are, let's face it, there are. And
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: doesn't sound like a place that the faint of heart
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: need to be going to.
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: No, definitely not. Just keep your head on a swivel. Okay,
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: if you go, if you live over there. We may
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: have people in that are watching the show right now
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: who are from this area. So I do believe there's
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: a good bit of cryptid reports to this day in
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: that area. Okay, in all this area now. Now, this
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: Bigfoot War of eighteen fifty five, I believe this occurred
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: in Oklahoma, right.
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: That's right in southeastern Oklahoma where the Choctaws were moved
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: in eighteen thirty five or so from their native area
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: down there in Mississippi. Because I mean, if you think
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: about it, there's an old song by Bobby Gentry called
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: ode to Billy Joe and she talks about ain't nothing
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: good ever happened on Choctaw Ridge. I mean, they have
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: places named for the Choctaw Indians, and I love that song.
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: I love that movie with Robbie Benson. I don't know
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: if a lot of people remember it, but it was
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: a great movie and it talked about how the Choctaws
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: were really indigenous in that area until they were moved
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: forcibly by the United States government and the Indian Relocation
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: Act of eighteen thirty.
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: Okay, prospecting USA Hunting America's Treasury. I was up in
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: North I was around Huntsville, kind of around that area,
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: I guess I think it's around Huntsville. So I was
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: at a national park, all right. I can't get not
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: supposed to be given my location a way, Okay, but
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: it was somewhere at the National Park, not too far
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: from Huntsville, somewhere in North Alabama kind of Okay, Yeah,
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: that's where we were a lot of activity there and
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: people that I do my research with and people that
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: I've been meeting lately. I've I've been meeting a lot
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: of bigfoot researchers out here down here, and so they
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: all have similar stories, okay, of the same areas. So
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: we know that there are very active areas full of
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: bigfoots in North Alabama and in Mississippi right there, that
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: whole area. And our friend Matthew del Matthew, who comes
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: on these does the conferences with us great bigfoot research,
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: is a badass monster hunter. He's done big footing all
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: over the South and including Mississippi as well. So if
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: he's out there, I know there's mossters. If Matthew's out
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: there doing his research, there's masters in Mississippi. Still if
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: you want to call him that, well.
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: There are there. They're in Louisiana, They're in Texas, they're
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: in Arkansas, They're really everywhere. Someone asked me, well, I've
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: actually had this question posed to me a number of time.
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: How many bigfoot are there? And I say there are
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: hundreds of thousands, there could be millions, we do not know. Well,
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: why don't we ever see him? I said, well, you know,
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: they slip into another dimension and they move away from
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: us where we can't see them. That's the simple. That's
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: the simple, and I believe the most correct answer.
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: Really. Yeah, well, some people do believe that they could
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: be interdimensional they could be utilizing portals. You know, it
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: gets it gets wild out there, and I am a
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: walking testimony of knowing things get really weird out in
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: the woods when you're doing big Foot field research. There's
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: things that we can explain, okay, like disappearing in the
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: thin air. You know, portals are opening up out there,
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: and and like I said, it's not just Bigfoot, there's
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: other stuff going on to now. Back then in the
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: was eighteen fifty five, I mean, there weren't you know,
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: podcasts and internet and television and things like that where
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: we can all share our information so easily, like like
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: we're doing right now. It had to have been really really,
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: really pretty crazy being out there living women and children
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: going missing, not knowing where they're going. What I talk
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: about quite often are what do you call it, like
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: hunt parties getting together and going out and hunting down
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: whatever whatever they need to. You know, we have talked
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: about hunting parties with Emily Isabella Bert the Georgia werewolf
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: story where all the local livestock was you know, being
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: found dead and the blood was drained from it from
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: the animals and stuff, and so they put a search
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: party together to go out and try to find out
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: what was taking their animals. Also, down at the Okefinoke
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: swamp here in Georgia, they have what's called the Okefinoke
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: Giant Attack of eighteen twenty nine. I believe some people
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: say that was what they found out in the swamps
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: of the Okefinoke, which by the way, tore apart. They're
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: hunt party, Okay, they're not party that came up from Florida.
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: Only two people made it out of their live and
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: some say it was a group of sam squashes out there.
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: I believe it was actual human giants. That's what I think.
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: But nonetheless, lunt parties are put together and they go
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: out there and hunt these things down, and so one
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: hundred percent I can get behind the fact that they
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: got a bunch of men. Something super weird was that
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: the chalk Taw men were seven feet tall. John, Did
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: you catch that in the story?
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: Yes? I did. The Tubby Klan. They were seven feet
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: tall and weighed three hundred pounds. Now, and I put
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: a question mark on that, and I said, could they
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: have been giants? I mean, back in eighteen fifty five,
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: I don't believe we had many people that were seven
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: feet tall. I just don't. And you know, just because
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: they were of chop tall lineage, it doesn't mean that
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: they couldn't have been giants. I mean seven feet tall. Yeah,
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: you know, here's what I think about seven feet tall.
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: Do you remember Andre the giant I did a great wrestler.
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: He was seven feet tall. And Maestro, the professional wrestler
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: who's a very good friend of mine, he said, you
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: know John, when I first met him, I was kind
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: of scared to meet him. I said, why is that?
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: He said, John, he was so big. And I was
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: with Dusty Row and Dusty said, Maestro goes shake his hand,
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: he wants to meet you. He's a real sweetheart. And
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: Maestro said, I shook his hand, he said, my entire hand.
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: And Maestro's not a small guy. He's about six feet three.
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: He said, My entire hand disappeared in his when he
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: shook my hand. He said, I know. Dusty said he
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: was a nice guy, but I was terrified. I mean,
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: he's seven feet tall is gigantic. I mean I'm five
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: feet eight, and I mean, you know, I think I'm
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: kind of a short guy, but I'm taller than a
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: lot of people at five eight, And I mean probably
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: a little fatter than most people. But I'm working on that. Okay,
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: we go right on a good diet that's working. But
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: the fact is five eight five nine is not a
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: small person. So yeah, I mean the tubbies were large,
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: large men who And that's one of the topics that
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: I want to discuss with the Chalctaw Indian Heritage Foundation.
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: I want to get some more information about the tubbies
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: and about Joshua Lafleur's death out there with the monsters whatever.
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: They were likely bigfoot, but could have been dog men.
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: I mean, it was a mess. And those are two
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: things that I really want to get some information on.
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: And I tell you what, Jess. Once I do and
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: get it put together, can I come back on your
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: show and let's discuss what I found out about the
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: tubbies being some type of giant and also the death
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: of Joshua Lafleur.
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: Yes, I would love that. I mean, you and I
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: have actually talked about them. The last time you were here.
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: We talked about the mud flood and the potential cover
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: up of the Tartarian Empire and the giants. I think
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: there could be a connection with all of that.
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: Absolutely welcome. I do too. It's really hard to tell
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: because so much has been taken away from us. That's
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: the best thing that I can say. So much information
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: has been taken away that we don't know what it is.
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: And I mean, they've done a good job. Started in
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: the nineteen twenties. And I will not state who did
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: it because I don't want to get in trouble. I
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: don't want any knocks on my door at three in
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: the morning by tall, dark guys calling themselves the men
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: in Black. I don't, but I'm just saying that's about
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: when it started. And I think that was a fairly
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: bold move that it happened back in the twenties, the
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: teens in the twenties, and they were successful because I mean,
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: you know, we were fairly advanced in the teens in
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: the twenties. In the previous century, we had a newspaper
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: in just about every town. There was reporting, we were
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: at the start of the radio age, a lot of
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: information being chaired. So the fact that they were able
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: to pull this off is nothing short of amazing, Jessica.
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: And so I want to at least, you know, I can't.
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: I can't do everything, but I do want to talk
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: to the Chalkdaw Historical Foundation about the Tubbies and their
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: giant statuesque appearance, and also about Joshua Lafloor. Those are
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: I think two things that I've got compartmentalized that are
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: part of the War of eighteen fifty five and just
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: part of chalk Taw culture in general.
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: So okay, well, I'm really interested too. I just think
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: that we're little people today. I think that we're so
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: small compared to what people the height that the people
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: used to be back in the day. But I don't know.
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: I want to thank Kent Baxter. Oh my gosh, Kent,
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: thank you so much for that super secret that is.
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: That is so kind of you. Thank you. But here's
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: your Thanksgiving guests. Jess got a busy week and hope
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: it helps you out. Thank you, Kent. That is so sweet.
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: You know not I have to do that. I appreciate
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: it very much. I appreciate the support. And Happy Thanksgiving. Okay,
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: happy Thanksgiving everybody out there. I know it's next week.
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: I've still got a bunch of shows between now and
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: next week, but but yeah, in case I don't see
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: y'all again, everybody's taking breaks and stuff. Thank you, Ken.
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: I hope you have a beautiful Thanksgiving, so thank you.
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: We both have a lot of shows to do, I
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: know I do. I got to get everything caught up
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: so that maybe I can take a half a week
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: off after Thanksgiving.
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, Yes, I just found out my son
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: is out of school all next week, so I have
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: tomorrow to have a little bit of peace and quiet.
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: He's at school. So yeah, like, don't bother me tomorrow, anybody,
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: I got have peace and quiet. Okay, my son's gonna be.
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: He's gonna be all 've in here next week during
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: our shows and stuff while we're cooking our Thanksgiving food.
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: So but anyways, speaking of Thanksgiving, one of my favorite
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: Thanksgiving and Bigfoot. One of my favorite uh Thanksgiving pictures
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: to put out on social media is actually a Bigfoot
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: with the Pilgrims and the Native Americans at Thanksgiving. I
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: usually put that picture on social media every Thanksgiving. Okay,
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: so I know, I know it's it's you know, it's
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: it's make believe, you know, allegedly, But how do we
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: know that Bigfoot wasn't around Sasquatch didn't interact with the Pilgrims.
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: Okay, back in the boy how do we not know, Jessica,
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: I mean we can't. We can't say, and so much
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: has been erased from our history. We don't really know
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: what happened. I mean, it's.
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: Amazing it is, But you know what, you have a
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: remote viewer here on the screen right now, and I'm
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: able to look into these things when I'm giving the coordinates,
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: and somebody tasked me with the target, and tonight we
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: are looking into the Bigfoot War of eighteen fifty five.
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: Did this really happen? That's the question. That's the question,
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: and I want to tell everybody from my data before
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: we even get started tonight, I'm going to say, yeah, Yes,
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: I believe that this actually happened. John, I think it
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: did well.
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: I agree with you. I mean I think it did too.
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: Psychic John just has a feeling that this happened. It
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: may not have been exactly the way it was reported,
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: but I think they had a problem and I think
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: they walked in on some monsters. Don't know what kind
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: of monsters they were, whether they were dog men, vicious
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: dog men, or vicious bigfoot, we don't know what they were,
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: but they walked into something and we don't know. They
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: were very brave men. The group was called the light Feet,
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: and it was a bunch of the more experienced chalk
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: Taw warriors that went out there with Joshua Lafleur. And
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: that's why I want to ask the chalk Taw History
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: Foundation what do they have to describe this stuff? So
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: I can try to, I guess, get an article out
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: of it so that we can all enjoy that the
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: next update for Introduction to Horminology. And I will say
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: that a gentleman named Ben King, your son is going
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: to be writing me a story that's going to go
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: in Introduction to Hominology. We've got experience or stories. And
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: he did have a little bit of an experience recently, didn't.
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: He He did, He did. He's had a bigfoot experience.
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: He was in the He went to the meadow with
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: me last yesterday. Actually I picked him up from school
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: and we drove over to the meadow yesterday or yesterday evening.
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: So yeah, he's out in the field almost as much
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: as I am because I carry him along with me.
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: And yes, he has had an actual bigfoot experience one
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: at least one that I was I was there to
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: witness with him.
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: So he'll have more. I can guarantee you if he's
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: out there in the meadow in some of these other
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: places where I know you go that I have been,
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: he'll have them. And I'd love to kind of keep
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: track of him because he's a small kid. And I
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: can tell you yours mom. And we didn't say this
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: when we were at Molina, but so many people that
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: knew him and have interacted with him said all these
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: great things about him. He's a popular guy in the
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: bigfoot world. Yes he is.
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: He's getting there. He made good friends yesterday with mister
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: Tony Merkele and Jolindo. So yeah, he's yeah, y'all. Just everybody, wait,
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: you're gonna meet my son in the future. Just not right,
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: He's too young right now be public. So but yes, okay,
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: we have a good question in the chat. Okay, Jason's wondering,
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: was it a war between Foot clans or Bigfoot versus
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: men or man? This war of eighteen fifty five is
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: actually man versus Bigfoot. Okay, it wasn't like warring Bigfoot clans.
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: This is actually men versus Bigfoot. It was the women
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: and the children were going missing, and a band of
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: a hunt a hunt team basically got together. They all
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: banded together. I mean like different tribes even came together, right, John.
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: It was not just a few people, It was a lot.
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: It was a lot of people. It was a local farmers, people.
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: Just who lived there was And I think from what
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: I understand, there were about twenty people that were involved
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: in that. That's what I can kind of guess from
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: the from the coverage that I that I read in
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: that one article, it seemed like there must have been
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: about twenty five people. And when it takes twenty five
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: people to kill three monsters, you know you've got a
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: huge problem on your hands.
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: M Yes, that's true. Hillary says it would make sense
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: if they were actually dog men.
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: That's that puts an interesting twist on it. Actually, what
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: if these were not big foots? What if they were
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: dogmn Okay, I'm not saying they were, but I'm saying,
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: what if it would? It would it would kind of
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: I'm not gonna say, make more sense because we do
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: have other stories where bigfoot did eat people, Okay, and
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: it's just like, well we have stories of humans that
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: humans that eat people too. Okay. I hate to say
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: that because I don't want to. I don't want to
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: put bigfoots in a bad light, okay, cause we love
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: our bigfoots. But you know, up in Port port Lock, Alaska,
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: we have the stories of the town of the little
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: village of Port Lock or Port Chatham. Those people were
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: going missing and their body parts were floating downstream and stuff,
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: and they were being attacked and torn apart by bigfoot. Okay,
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: so that was in Alaska that happened, you know, early
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: nineteenth century, I believe, or twentieth century, nineteen hundreds, So
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: we know, we understand that this does happen occasionally, but
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: in this case, there was they seem to have been
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: when the men actually got into the woods and they
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: located a tred smell, they came across a mound. I
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: believe it was like a mound, but there were bodies
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: on top of this mound, body parts, and it was
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: dead humans. It was the people that had gone missing,
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: right John, Now, is.
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: This you're talking about in Oklahoma with the Choktaws, Yes?
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: Or are you talking not necessarily the the.
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: Alaska No, yes, well they probably had the same thing
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: in Alaska, but I kind of I kind of jumped
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: back to Oklahoma.
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, right, so I want and I want to say categorically,
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: there's so many bigfoots that had a great reputation with
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: the Indian tribes. They all lived together in peace. But
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: you know, it's like humans, there's some really bad ones
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: out there, and there's some really bad dog men. There
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: are some really ones that aren't. There's the good and
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: the bad in every race. But I know from my
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: experience there there are a lot of bigfoot that are
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: really friendly and are curious about humans. They love to
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: watch us. They are really the watchers, not not those
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: biblical uh, those biblical people. They are the bigfoots, the
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: real watchers. They just love to watch us and see
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: what we're doing. And I'm fine with them doing that,
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: I really am.
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: Mm hmm moon Moondog. Davis says again Portlock Gugway prime suspect,
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: and they're violent, Yeah, the Gugway. And that's what we
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: were we were mentioning earlier with the with the different
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: types of bigfoots that we have, there are four different
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: types that we kind of categorize them as, Okay that
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: this is the go to chart here, and the Gugway
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: would be the type three down there with the snout
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: uh it could also be seen as being a dog man,
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: or being confused as a dog men, or I don't know,
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: I don't know, I have I have not come across
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: a snouted bigfoot yet. Okay, but uh, but yes they
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: could they could potentially be in too, So I don't know.
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: How about we get into the data, John, what do
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: you think.
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: I would really like to hear about the data that
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: you collected when you did remote viewing and you sent
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: that to me. It was very interesting, but it deserves
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: some clarification, and you're the one that can do this,
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: so please begin that. I'm really looking forward to hearing this.
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: Okay, this is wild. Okay, so this is wild. All
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: the data, the raw data is in my Patreon. If
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: you guys are interested in becoming a member there, you
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: get full access to all the raw data. And so
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: I'm going to go down some of my sensory data. Okay.
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: So when I was given a set of numbers, I
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: had eight numbers and that's all I'm given. And when
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: I sat down to do the session, all this information
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: starts flooding in. And I have a process that I
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: go to and I start collecting data in stages. Okay,
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: and I do this in stages, So my first three
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: stages are on my first page right here, and so
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: some of my sensory data would be fast. I was
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: seeing like fast movement, fast motion, something quick. I was
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: actually picking up on something that was metallic, but that
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: ended up being like blood I was. I was picking
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: up on blood like that iron smell. You know, if
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: you've ever smelled blood, especially in large quantities, it smells
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: like iron or some kind of metal. And I also
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: picked up on something that was hot, like fire, fierce.
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: I wrote down fierce and pierce, pierce and fierce, jumping
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: and flowing, and something that was below. Now some of
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: my analytic overlay. Okay, I picked up on. The first
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: thing I wrote down was bypass, okay, bypass. I was
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: picking up on a mission. I wrote mission mission statement.
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: Like I said, I was picking up on some kind
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: of fast movement, the blood and the iron smell. I
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: wrote that down again. I wrote down Outlaw's so outlaw.
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: And then I picked up on when I picked up
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: on that, the fire data and the heat. I wrote
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: down a fire gun, so fire a gun and gunshots,
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: so gunshots, and I heard so like I was, I
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: was hearing this song. It was like some kind of
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: like easy song or something, and it was like and
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: I wrote down rang out like bells, I grabbed my night,
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: I'll whi herd to a shells Okay. But I didn't
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: write that part down. But that's the that's the song.
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: So that's like I'm channeling, like I hear I hear
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: music in my head and so I write that down.
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: That's part of the data. That's how I channel sometimes.
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: So I wrote gunshots rang out like bells, and then
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: I wrote down blind rage, Uh skip down a little bit,
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: I wrote. I was picking up on like a river
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: or some kind of water, so I wrote down river
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: and water and creek natural selection something. I wrote down
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: that's kind of interesting considering what the target is. And
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: then I started picking up on day for the next
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: like even the second page my stage four, I was
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: picking up on the wild West, okay, So I wrote
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: down wild West. I even wrote down like saloon okay,
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: because I was picking up on what I thought was
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: like the wild West. And then I drew my drawing.
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: I don't know what my drawing is. It's just a
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: little sketch, you know. It just looks like jib like
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: you know lines stuff. So but okay, So, so, like
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: I said, I was picking up on wild West type
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: data and uh, and I actually wrote down robbery and
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: hands up, like I heard hands up, like somebody was
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: getting robbed, you know, like, which could be interpreted is like, well,
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: there were people being kidnapped and taken right, So they
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: were robbing people. They were robbing the communities of their
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: women and children. I mean, I don't know. It's what
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: I wrote down, So it's what I was picking up on.
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: But I was picking up on data that in concluded.
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: What I was seeing was like a lot of mud,
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: and I wrote down dirty okay, like dirt and mud, dirt,
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: mud and water. Okay, I was seeing something and I
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: started realizing I was. I was kind of picking up
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: on being outdoors. Okay, So I was outside and I
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: wrote down covered in mud, covered in blood. Okay, So
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: I wrote both. I was seeing people that were covered
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: in mud. But then, my sometimes we do something called peacocking, okay,
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: when you're remote viewing, it's a term we call it peacocking.
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: And you'll hear mud and you'll see somebody covered in mud.
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: But then it kind of sounds like blood too. So
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: I wrote that down as well, because I saw people
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: that were covered in mud, but it was just something
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: that was thick, and so I thought, well, maybe it's
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: blood too, because I was picking up on something that
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: was just thick and it was covering people's bodies, so
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: covered in mud, covered in blood.
• 48:57
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: Then I picked up on, okay, something that was like
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: open open air, like open open outdoors. Okay, So it
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: was like open air. And for my esthetic impact is
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: what I call it, okay, is what it's called when
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: you're remote viewing kind of like what it looks like,
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: like what's the design of the place, right, like what
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: are the aesthetics? And and I wrote down this is
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: what I wrote down. Woods, forest, like a pasture, a cove,
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: a meadow, or a plane like the planes okay, And
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: and so I was picking up on outdoors, but it
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: was like it was it was almost like woods. It
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: was like all that combined. Okay. So it was like
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: a forest woods, but like a pasture was there too,
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: So it was like a whole bunch of different landscapes,
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: but it was all outdoor.
• 49:48
  Speaker 3: I want to I want to interrupt you and say,
• 49:51
  Speaker 3: that is exactly the scenario given by this historian who
• 49:56
  Speaker 3: did research. He said it was woods, it was an
• 49:59
  Speaker 3: open it was like a small pasture. That is exactly
• 50:05
  Speaker 3: what he said. So you were right on the money
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: for a guy that researched this twenty five years ago.
• 50:13
  Speaker 3: It's amazing that you know what you can. It's amazing
• 50:16
  Speaker 3: because I think, I'm going to digress here just a minute.
• 50:20
  Speaker 3: When you have twenty people see an event, you get
• 50:24
  Speaker 3: twenty different accounts, And so why is it different when
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: someone sees it in their head? Why isn't that just
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: as good of an account as twenty different people seeing
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: twenty different things, and all that in support of remote viewing?
• 50:45
  Speaker 3: Had you ever had you ever had that thought? I
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: know I have it all the time. Why don't people
• 50:49
  Speaker 3: believe remote viewers? I think that they know just as
• 50:52
  Speaker 3: much as twenty different people that saw twenty different things,
• 50:55
  Speaker 3: twenty different eyewitness accounts. What do you think?
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: Well? I tell people not. You don't have to believe me.
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: I'm not, you know, I do this for fun, okay,
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: And so it's almost like a I don't want to say,
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: it's like a game to me or something, you know
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: what I mean, Like it's like a challenge I'm giving
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: some numbers, and I just I'm I'm using my skill
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: that I've been taught. Okay, So I I stand by
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: my data one hundred percent. I totally do. But I
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: just say it's but I always, I always leave every
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: show saying it's just remote viewing data. Okay, it doesn't.
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: It doesn't mean that you have to believe it, okay
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: at all. But it's just data. And I'm getting all
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: this data out of a set of eight numbers. Okay,
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: that's all I have, or eight numbers. Okay. So like
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: I said, take it or leave it. It doesn't matter. Okay,
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: it doesn't matter to me. It's it's just what I'm here.
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: We're here to kind of just explore things using psychic skills. Okay,
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: psychic skills. So yeah, but you're right, like I said,
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: I stand by my data one hundred percent. But you know,
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: like I said, take it or leave it, if you
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: just a little bit more information from remote viewing, I
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: think that's a win.
• 52:09
  Speaker 3: I've got a quick question for you. If you have
• 52:11
  Speaker 3: eight numbers, is that latitude and longitude?
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: No, it's not. It's just random. They're just random numbers. John,
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: they don't have to be Well that they can be coordinates.
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: They can if you have a location that you want to,
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: you know, be remote viewed. I can't. I one hundred
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: percent could be given a set of coordinates like actual coordinates,
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: but we just use random numbers. So it's just eight
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: random numbers in any kind of combination. Uh, usually, and
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: it's two sets of four unless it's off planet, and
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: then usually I get more. Okay, but yeah, it's just random.
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: They're not they're not actual coordinate like geo geographical locations.
• 52:57
  Speaker 3: No, right, because I know I know some remote viewers
• 53:02
  Speaker 3: that I know, and some of them are pretty good.
• 53:04
  Speaker 3: They like to have coordinates. Yeah, yes, and it's very interesting.
• 53:12
  Speaker 3: I my last experience with a remote viewer other than yourself, Yeah,
• 53:19
  Speaker 3: that person did not want to remote view the site.
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: Okay, And well, if you know what it is beforehand,
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: I guess see. I never know what my targets are beforehand,
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: so I have to trust a person who gives me
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: the target that they're not going to put me in
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: harm's way. Okay. So that's why I don't just take
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: targets from anybody.
• 53:45
  Speaker 3: Right. And I suspect that if there was nothing there,
• 53:49
  Speaker 3: they would have said, well there's nothing there. Yeah, what
• 53:52
  Speaker 3: this was was the supposed entrance to enter Earth near
• 53:57
  Speaker 3: the North Pole. And that's Brooks Agnew's purview, you know,
• 54:03
  Speaker 3: because he talks about the inner Earth and willing to
• 54:06
  Speaker 3: do an inner Earth exploration. And when you know, I
• 54:14
  Speaker 3: look very carefully at what people say, and if there's nothing,
• 54:19
  Speaker 3: then say there's nothing. Nobody cares. But if you start
• 54:23
  Speaker 3: getting mysterious about it, I start wondering what you're talking about.
• 54:26
  Speaker 3: This is this reminded me of when George.
• 54:29
  Speaker 6: Bush, George Bush, the younger George Bush, he was on
• 54:36
  Speaker 6: the Jay Leno Show after he was president, and a
• 54:41
  Speaker 6: young lady.
• 54:42
  Speaker 3: The first question she asked him, have you ever heard
• 54:45
  Speaker 3: about this?
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: No, I don't think so. I don't know.
• 54:50
  Speaker 3: I think this is the most unusual thing I've ever heard.
• 54:54
  Speaker 3: She said, what can you tell us about the federal
• 54:58
  Speaker 3: governments involved with UFOs? And he said, I can't tell
• 55:05
  Speaker 3: you anything. Well, he just answered the question, because if
• 55:10
  Speaker 3: there was nothing, he would have said there's nothing. But
• 55:14
  Speaker 3: he said, I can't tell you anything. I mean, he
• 55:17
  Speaker 3: just I mean, you know, sometimes President Bush sometimes said
• 55:22
  Speaker 3: the wrong thing. He said, I can't tell you, Well,
• 55:25
  Speaker 3: he just did. I don't hope, I don't have the Men
• 55:28
  Speaker 3: in Black. No, that was on. That was on on
• 55:33
  Speaker 3: that nationwide television and it was just amazing. So you know,
• 55:38
  Speaker 3: like when you start hiding things in an explanation, that
• 55:44
  Speaker 3: tells me there's something there, there's nothing there. So you know,
• 55:48
  Speaker 3: if you ask me do I have political signs in
• 55:52
  Speaker 3: my corner, I'd say, yeah, I got about six of
• 55:55
  Speaker 3: them because I happen to know the people that ran
• 55:58
  Speaker 3: and and so that's fine of your done with that.
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: But if I said, well, I really can't say, well,
• 56:04
  Speaker 3: you'd say, well, what in the world you got over there?
• 56:08
  Speaker 3: I would open up a lot more questions than most people,
• 56:13
  Speaker 3: you know, at least that's what I think. That's just
• 56:16
  Speaker 3: some reasoning that I've done it being a computer scientist
• 56:18
  Speaker 3: for a long time. So anyway, you know, when you
• 56:21
  Speaker 3: start getting mysterious, you're getting mysterious because you are trying
• 56:25
  Speaker 3: to cover up something. I believe that's just me.
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: Okay, so I just remembered something. So I did a
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: show yesterday on what was it the reptilians Okay, substranean
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: reptilians and Reptilian bloodlines. And I know I know that
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: you like talking about that as well with the Lizardman
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: research that you've done. But there's a former CIA agent
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: named John Ramirez. Now I've actually interviewed him before, and
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: I had no clue who he was when I interviewed him,
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: and I felt terrible. I wish I had been informed
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: before I sat down with him. It was kind of
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: a surprise out in Las Vegas, okay, and uh, and
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: so it was really awesome. But he he talked about
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: how he he talked about what was it called, what's
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: the term informed speculation, informed speculation. He always he always
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: talks about uh, he tells you the truth, right. He
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: kind of exposed the stuff, but he said, well, this
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: firman informed speculation. And I think that's really fun because
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: I was like, well, who's who's informing him? Okay, somebody's
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: informing him And allegedly that's the first question you would ask.
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: You're one hundred percent right, Jessica, who's doing this?
• 57:41
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: Who's doing it? Exactly? Well, here here tonight, we're doing uh,
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: we're getting this information from the ethers with the remote
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: viewing data. Okay. So uh, it's it's kind of a
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: very interesting thing when we hear these stories. If we
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: weren't there. We don't know anybody who was there. There's
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: been these stories passed down through oral tradition, okay, and
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: just legends and more. But I'm sitting here remote viewing it, okay.
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: And like I said, I was in the middle of
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: a forest. By the way, Marene and Gus, thank you
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: for that supersticker. I appreciate. I appreciate y'all so much.
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: Gus is my favorite free moderator, okay. And I hope
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: that your dad is doing good. Everybody sends some prayers
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: out to Marine's father tonight and her family, And thank
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: you so much for being here, Marine. I appreciate that. Okay.
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: So I was in the middle of a pasture, woods,
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: a cove, a meadow plane and I was feeling exhausted
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: and John actually the next thing that I wrote down
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: in my data this is actually analytic overly, okay. And
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: when you're remote viewing, a lot of times they say, well,
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: throw out the analytic overlay, you know. But the problem
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: is with my targets that I do a lot of times,
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: Like my friend Trey Hudson and I were talking yesterday.
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: He's ahead of one of my teams and he's a
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: trained remote viewer as well. Retire from the Department of Defense,
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: by the way. And so Trey and I were talking.
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: We were going over some of my remote viewing data
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: for the Dennis Martin case that I did a while back.
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: Greg Ogles is in the chat What's up, Greg? Greg
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: was there with this too, and so we were talking
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: about this this data, and I said, you know, well,
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: this just analytic overlay, and Tree goes, well, the problem
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: with that is that a lot of times your analytic
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: overlay is actually the target. Okay. And that's the case
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: with a lot of my targets. Is what we put
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: in those little boxes. A lot of times it is
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: the target. So I actually wrote down the word war,
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: so that was in my analytic overly. I was feeling exhausted,
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: and I wrote down typical and then I wrote down war.
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: So I was on target picking up on a war. Okay.
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: I pat myself on the back for that one, okay.
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: And the next thing I was seeing, I actually was
• 59:59
  Speaker 2: picking up on people that were injured because I wrote
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: down busted lip. I know that's not a decapitated head, okay,
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: because they say that actually what happened in the story
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: that is told is that at least one of the
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: men had his head ripped off, right.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, from what I understand, that was Joshua Lafleur, who
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 3: was the leader of the whole group, and he was
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 3: essentially the governor of that group of Chalktaws. He was
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 3: apparently a great man, and I expect that when I
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 3: contact the Chalktaw Historical Society, they'll have a lot about him.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 3: So I can't wait to I know, I can. I
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 3: know the Chickasaws were very helpful and got me an articles,
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 3: so I mean, I'll just I'll start collecting this stuff.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 3: Maybe I'll get my buddy John Lemy to help me
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 3: write it up. He's a real good author, and that
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 3: will be part of the next version of Introduction to
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 3: Horminology the Science of Bigfoot, and we're going to have, uh,
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 3: we're gonna have Ben's article in that edition too, So
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 3: it's gonna be kind of fun. We're going to expand
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 3: and get some more stories by some interesting people, and
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 3: that's what I like to do it just it's fun.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 3: I mean, I love writing about it about as much
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 3: as you like going out in the woods. I know
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 3: you love it, Jessica. You always talk about it.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: Well, because I'm always doing it. I wouldn't do any
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: of this if I didn't love it. I wouldn't be
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: here right now if I didn't love it. Yeah, I'm
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 2: having too much fun and hanging out with all these
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: amazing people, Okay, including yourself. It's just fun. Okay, it's fun.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: It's fun talking about people getting their heads ripped off.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: I'm just kidding. That's not the fun part. I was kidding.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: That's a joke.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 3: It's unusual.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: It's unusual. How many people get to do this. Okay,
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: this is it's it's wild. Okay. So speaking of speaking
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: of heads getting ripped off, I did write down I
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: was picking up. I wrote down one of my tangibles.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: I was picking up on humans, so I was peaking
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: on humans in the environment. When I was remote viewing this,
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: I wrote down devoted, so like devoted humans that were
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: devoted to some kind of cause. I didn't know exactly
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: what it was, but I did pick up on a war.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: They were devoted. I wrote down men, a man and men,
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: and then I was getting chaos and confusion type data.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: I actually wrote down chaos and confusion death defined, and
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: I was picking up on death and dead. Okay, so
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: death and dead. When I was paying up on humans,
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: it wasn't just a life humans. I was paying up
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: on dead humans too, so I knew there were dead
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 2: people in the environment.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 3: I was.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: I was picking up on hunters, so I wrote down hunters, hunting,
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: and hunted. So that was more peacocky. And that was
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: the last bit of my data actually, because I was
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: I picked up on something that was blind, like a
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: deer blind. I wrote down deer blind. Okay, so that
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: was it's just part of hunting, I guess, And that's
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: where I got the very the last bit of my data.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: I actually ended the session there because it was kind
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 2: of like I was picking up on did people and
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: stuff and something that was being hunted. So I just
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: at that point I ended the session and I was like,
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: all right, I didn't want to get much farther into it.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 2: I was kind of running. I felt like I was
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: kind of squeezing this target for all that I had,
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: for all it was worth by that point. But I
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: did pick up on hunted, a war, debt, death as well,
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: so I do believe, like I mean, I never wrote
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: down in one time in this target. I never wrote
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: down anything about a big foot or a dog man
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: or anything like that. But I did pick up on
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: a war of some sort, and there was fighting, there
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: was chaos, or was confusion there. One hundred percent was gunshots.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 2: I was picking up on like the wild West. Okay.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 2: So it doesn't mean there weren't bigfoots there. Absolutely there were.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: The target was the Bigfoot War of eighteen fifty five,
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 2: and I was right there.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 3: And I think what I'd like to do is, I'm
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 3: going to print out your remote viewing data and I'm
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 3: going to categorize it by direct hit on your on
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 3: your your words, direct hit, partial hit, and no hit
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 3: at all. And i'd like to do that to some
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 3: of your remote viewing data that you would let me
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 3: let me look at. I think it'd be great to
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 3: get some statistics, because I know, as a scientist, ideal
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 3: in statistics all the time, and I would like to
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 3: find out what your direct hit ratio is. I bet
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 3: it's really high, and I would bet that it is
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 3: not in the realm that is subject to chance. I
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 3: think it's probably very legitimate. So we'll talk. Let's talk
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 3: about that little study. That might be an interesting thing
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 3: to do. What do you think.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it sounds like another challenge. I'd love
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 2: a good challenge. Are you going to do? Is just
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: take all my old targets and any any of them
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 2: that you're interested in, the ones that we've done together
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: to I would love that. Actually, that'd be fun.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, But there would be another article that we can
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 3: put in introduction to Horminology the science of Bigfoot, because
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 3: I'd like to do some bigfoot examples, because we should.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 3: We should do four or five bigfoot conferences, and people
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 3: are interested in bigfoot, and if we have good, legitimate
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 3: data from a from a real, live remote viewer, I
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 3: think it would be great to take a look at
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 3: this and see what your performance is because I believe
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 3: that we would statistically find out that it is not
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 3: subject to chance. So let me take care of that part.
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 3: You will talk about the data that we want to
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 3: use and just go from there.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 2: I would love that. Yeah, let's do it. Let's do
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: it your mission. If you should choose to accept it, John,
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 2: I think that you should. I will participate in that
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: for sure, for sure. I love that you.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 3: Actually don't have to participate to be Just give me
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 3: the data and tell me the targets, and then I
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 3: will categorize it into one of three ears in one
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 3: of three categories, and then you can tell me you
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 3: can review it and say no or yes on that.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 3: Then we're good to go. Then I'll just run the
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 3: statistics and see what the statistics say. I think it's
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 3: a very that's a first semester graduate school project, but
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 3: it certainly can be very worthwhile to show kind of
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 3: your expertise in remote viewing. Not only will it show
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 3: your expertise, but it will give us an idea of
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 3: the kind of things that you pick up.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, for sure. Yeah, it's always shocking getting
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 2: data that it lines up with the targets. To me,
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 2: it's always shocking. It's shocking to the people who give
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: me the targets too sometimes. So it's a fun little
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: experiment that we usually do. And Kent, Yes, I can't
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: take the latitude and longitude coordinates, but usually the targets
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 2: that I'm given are just random numbers. They're just random
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: numbers that are assigned to that particular target, so they
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: don't have to be latitude and longitude coordinates. It's just
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 2: like one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, but
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 2: not those numbers usually they're usually kind of mixed up. Okay,
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 2: Like this target today was three three nine one, two
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 2: five nine six. That was my target. That was all
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 2: I was given. So, uh, those are not Those are
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 2: not coordinates of any kind of location that I know of.
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 2: They're just random numbers. Now, Damian has a great point too.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: Decapitation is common when you hear of human and human
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 2: and giant interactions. And yeah, that's what I was mentioning
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 2: about the the Okefinoke giant attack of eighteen twenty nine
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 2: here in Georgia, down in South Georgia. One of one
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 2: of the men, at least one of them. I think
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 2: there was a search party of like I want to
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: say five, five over seven, I can't remember. It was
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 2: five or seven men that went to go track down
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 2: whatever left these gigantic footprints in the in the swamp.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: A hunt party came up from Florida, some of those
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 2: rowdy Floridians came up when they heard about some giant
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 2: footprints that were found in the Okefinoke by a father
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 2: and son who had won a land lottery, some land
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 2: right there at the ok Finoki swamp, and they went
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: into the swamp to go find track down whatever it was,
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 2: these huge tracks and uh, and they got ambushed by
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: a giant. And the story goes a lot of people.
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 2: When they tell it, they stink that it's a bigfoot
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: like a sasquatch. That we're living in the ok Finochi. Now,
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 2: when I was remote viewing at John, I was seeing
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: a giant human. It was attacking them. And upon speaking
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: to a woman who lives down her name is Barb. Okay,
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 2: let me some Barb met Hurt the Molina Bigfoot Festival
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 2: year before last and in last year. Barb lives at
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 2: the okefinoch Or she used to and she said that
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 2: it was a well known fact. I believe she's aid.
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 2: Fact she said was very well known that the people
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: around the oak finoch knew of giants who lived in
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 2: the swamp. In the middle of the swamp somewhere. She
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 2: said there were giants, giant humans. Okay, so.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 3: Excuse me. Did she have any additional data as to
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 3: what they looked like, how tall they were? Did she
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 3: have any of that or did she just say there's
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 3: there's talk of giants.
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 2: I'll have to ask her. I'm still in touch with her.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: We're friends on Facebook, so I can ask her. She
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 2: just moved down to Florida, I think recently, but she
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 2: was living down near Molina for a while. So we'll
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 2: ask I say, will like I got more of me,
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 2: I'll ask her. I'll ask her because yeah, that's something
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 2: that I would I would be interested in diving into
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 2: a little bit more too, because I think it's important
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: that we look into this stuff. Okay, we got to
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: look into it.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 3: Well, I mean, okay, I'm one of the big believers.
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 3: And in fact, I wrote one of the first papers
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 3: and presented it at a conference on the Biblical Code,
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 3: which is you take the Hebrew version of the Bible
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 3: and you do these offsets of letters and you get
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 3: lots of words that make sense. And I presented this paper.
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 3: It was actually to a bunch of teachers, social studies teachers,
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 3: and they just listened to it. They didn't say a word.
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 3: They said, oh, okay, very interesting, We'll have to look
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 3: into that more. I think there are more people interested
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 3: in the scientific aspect of some of the data than
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 3: you'd think. And that's something that a lot of scientists,
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 3: you know, they're busy messing around with the what you
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 3: call it the National Science Foundation getting grants to count butterflies,
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 3: my dean. Yeah, And I mean, you know that's just
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 3: not that's not science. I mean, you know, I'm glad
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 3: you did it. I'm glad you got it published in journals.
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 3: But the fact is, let's get some data that matters.
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 3: Let's let's be a little bit renegade about this thing
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 3: and see what the data tells us. So I'm glad
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 3: you liked that idea. Maybe Barb could tell us some things,
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 3: and then maybe we could see if we could interview
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 3: some people that she knew. We could do this by phone.
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 3: We could call them up and talk to them and
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 3: just get some data and see what the what our
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 3: data says. I mean, if there's a lot of correlation,
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 3: well there's a lot of correlation. That meaning if there's
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 3: a lot of agreement, there's a lot of agreement. If
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 3: there's not a lot of agreement, then there's not. So
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 3: we can see just what it says. And there's no
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 3: there's no name calling or anything. Let's just take a
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 3: look at the data. And I think there are a
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 3: lot of researchers that would probably be excited that we're
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 3: gonna think about doing something like this.
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 2: Yes, and counting butterflies is important. Somebody has a job
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 2: counting butterflies. I salute you. Okay, We're not just anybody
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 2: count butterflies. Okay, okay, well, but you're right, John. I
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 2: just had to say because there may be somebody in
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 2: the chats as we listener who might be counting butterflies.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 2: I love butterflies. Okay, but you have a good point, John,
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 2: You do have a good point.
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 3: I mean the point is if you're trying to count
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 3: monarch butterflies and see that the population has drastically dwindled,
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 3: that is a big red flag and you got to
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 3: put them on the endangered list. It is fine, But
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 3: I mean, when that's all you do, there's so much
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 3: more data out there that we can that we can
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 3: count and we can see what the data says. This
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 3: is a this area of cryptid you're the cryptied huntress,
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 3: and I know you're going to agree with me. I'm
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 3: gonna say the cryptied world needs so much analysis of data,
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 3: we can't all live to do it. Do you agree?
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 2: That's right? Yes, there's a lot of cryptids out there too,
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 2: So the more people we have working on this, the better, Right,
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 2: The more the better.
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 3: Of course, I agree wholehearted, Lenna, and I'm glad you agree.
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 3: I don't want to sound like a weirdo. But you
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 3: have data's data, and you analyze it and you see
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 3: what it tells you. That's what science is. Science is
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 3: about a repeatable process. So if you get data and
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 3: analyze it, like I just said, I set up the test,
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 3: that is a repeatable process. We can go do it
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 3: for bigfoot data, dog man data, lizard man data, everything,
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 3: and we can just see what we've got. And I
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 3: think that's a very viable way of looking at data.
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 3: The Lord I mean, I know, the Journal of Scientific
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 3: Exploration up at, of all places, the University of Genia,
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 3: one of the ten greatest universities in America. The Journal
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 3: of Scientific Exploration, which publishes papers like this, would love
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 3: to have this at a conference. We could go up
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 3: there and talk and people would be mesmerized by this
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 3: little bit of analysis that we've done. I think it
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 3: could get other people interested. And I probably shouldn't have
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 3: gone and ran my mouth, but I just think it's
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 3: it's a great idea. So we'll have to hurry up
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 3: and do this before, you know, before someone else gets
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 3: around and does it. This'd be pretty quick to do.
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 3: We can probably and we can probably report on this.
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 3: I think I know we're going on I'm saying we
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 3: can probably report on this March the eleventh at the
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 3: Georgia Bigfoot Conference. I was just trying to think, really
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 3: how I wasn't just stalling there. I was trying to think, well,
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 3: when could we legitimately do it? Probably not January the
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 3: eleventh with our UFO conference, but I bet you by
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 3: the Georgia Bigfoot Conference, we could recently at least report
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 3: on the results of this day of this data analysis.
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 3: And I think they're probably three hundred people that would
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 3: love to hear it.
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 2: I think so too, for sure. And doing things like
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 2: this do make it more I don't know, just more popular.
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 2: People like coming out like Firewater by Design says, I
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 2: finally came out of the cryptid closet. I think more
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 2: people will come out of the crypto closet if we
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 2: make this more mainstream and we put more data out
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 2: there with cryptids and giants and things like that. So,
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 2: she says, I usually hide in my room when I
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 2: watch this show. Oh you have died when you watch
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 2: my show. I've heard that before. Okay, I know that's awesome.
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 2: But now she's got two roommates. What's up roommates, welcome
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 2: to the cryptid world watching with her in the living room.
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 2: So ands missed the cool wonderland. Says I've met two
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 2: famous NBA players seven feet tall. It's terrifying. Okay. I
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 2: actually walked into an elevator and sant Anto one time,
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 2: and I wasn't paying attention. I was working at a
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 2: conference back in my former life with the you know,
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 2: government stuff I was doing, and h and I took
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 2: a second because I was surrounded by these men that
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 2: were about at least seven feet tall, every one of them.
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 2: And I looked at them. I was like, oh, wow,
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 2: do you guys play basketball? And I was joking with
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 2: all like the Seattle it was a SuperSonics. It was
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 2: their team and uh and they were there like for
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 2: some kind of it was San Antonio really like two
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 2: thousand and three or two thousand and two or something
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 2: maybe and yeah or maybe something something like that. They
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 2: were there for like the playoffs games and stuff. So
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 2: and then I actually, doctor John, I actually ran literally
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 2: ran into Shaquille O'Neill. One day, I bumped into him
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 2: like ranch, I wasn't paying attention and I walked right
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 2: into him and uh. And he was like, oh man,
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 2: I'm so sorry. And I was like, no, it's my fault.
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 2: And I looked up and I was like, oh, it's shack.
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 2: It was so embarrassing. But his hand was like his
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 2: hand was like three times the size of my head.
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 3: It was huge.
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 2: I could not believe how large he was. He was
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 2: a very he's a very urger man.
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 3: Y maestro mets Andre the giant. He's completely swallowed his hand.
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 3: I love it. You just confirmed my story.
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he was. He's the biggest man. The biggest
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 2: human I've ever met in person was Shaquille O'Neill for sure.
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 2: And I've met a lot of famous like you know,
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 2: athletes and stuff. I've met. I met my share of
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 2: famous athletes and stuff. But he's definitely the biggest. Uh.
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 2: And yes, I used to hang out with the big
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 2: boss Man. He was big too, I remember when I
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 2: was a kid. But anyways, anyways, I digress. We are
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 2: talking about giants a little bit here, so all right,
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 2: it is wild. Actually, I was at the store today
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 2: with my son and we found some We saw some
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 2: big containers of Himalai and salt. And I was telling myself,
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 2: I was like, you know what, this might be the
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 2: remnants of a giant Ben. This actually might be. Some
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 2: people say that Himalayan salt is actually from the bodies
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 2: the carcasses of giants like titans. Now I don't know
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 2: the validity of that. I don't know, but some people
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 2: think that, John, have you heard that?
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 3: Yes? I have. Now did you buy some for Ben
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 3: or not?
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 2: I did not because it was too much salt. I
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 2: don't have anywhere to put a gigantic container of salt.
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 2: I just didn't. I didn't have anywhere to put it.
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 2: I might.
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 3: Really small McCormick about five dollars and you.
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a bucket. It was pretty cheap too,
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 2: for a bucket. It was under ten bucks. I think
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 2: it was huge. It was like a gigantic bag of
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 2: Himalayan salt. It was pink. But some people say that
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 2: that's like the fat or something I guess off of
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 2: a giant. Uh. I don't know. It makes it that
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 2: would make us like animals though if we eat himalay
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 2: and salt, so not the we're all giants.
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 3: But right that you've got a point there. Yeah.
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, Well, let's I'm getting too far off
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 2: on a tangent here about giants and stuff. And what
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 2: do you think John? Okay, So overall, what do you
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 2: think about the data?
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 3: Okay?
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 2: Because we've gone through all the data now, it does
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 2: appear that this bigfootward of eighteen fifty five did happen.
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 2: According to my data, there was some sort of a war.
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 2: The word war is actually in my data. A lot
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 2: of chaos, a lot of confusion.
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 3: Blood.
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 2: I picked up on a busted lip. I didn't pick
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 2: up on a decapitated head, Okay, but I did pick
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 2: up on some injuries and stuff. It happened.
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 3: Well, that's right. That's right out of the one historical
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 3: account that I've read several times to prepare for our
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 3: event tonight. That is right out of it. You've got
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 3: a sorry, my grammar, a bunch of direct You've got
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 3: a lot of them. And so that's great, And that
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 3: speaks to your ability to do remote viewing because you
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 3: didn't know the topic before you did it, and then
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 3: you hit all these all these critical these critical descriptive terms.
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 3: I think it's great. And anybody who says you can't.
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 3: You can't remote view. Boy. I'd love to show them
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 3: some of this data and say, well, looks like she's
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 3: about eighty eighty six percent accurate or whatever the number is.
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 3: I think it'd be great. I'll say, you see, this
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 3: is just what I always tell skeptics. Whenever a skeptic
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 3: tells me they don't believe something, I say, prove it,
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 3: and then I'll say, let me tell you a story.
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 3: The Bigfoot conference business is over a two billion dollars
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 3: a year business. And you know, I mean, you're out there,
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 3: and you're out there with no support, come back when
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 3: you have, when you have something is bigger than the
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 3: Bigfoot conference business. I'd like to hear it. And they
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 3: just they just run away. They don't like that statement.
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 3: And I don't care if they do or not, because
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 3: you know, I've got to put on great entertainment and
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 3: great learning experiences when we go to a Bigfoot conference.
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 3: Well you you've meant it to a mind. Did you
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 3: learn something when you were there? I bet you did?
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 2: I did. I always learned something when I go. For sure,
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 2: you always have a wonderful group of people that are
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 2: there talking all the researchers. I mean, we got to
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 2: we both got to go to the Molina Bigfoot Festival recently,
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 2: John and what a wonderful group of people there. A
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 2: lot of other researchers were out there. It's just cool
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 2: sharing stories and swapping stories and experiences and with a
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 2: lot of those people that I met. A couple of
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 2: people I met actually that were there I had never
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 2: met before. They do some research in the same areas
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 2: that I do research in when it comes to Bigfoot,
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 2: and we had very similar encounter stories, very similar. So
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 2: it's good getting all that because that's data too. Okay,
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 2: that's data too. Yeah. Giant corpse salt, yeah, Susan, Yeah,
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 2: that's why they say Himalayan salt is. I don't know
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 2: it may or may not be. That would be a
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 2: fun remote viewing target. What are the origins of Himalayan salt?
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 3: Sure? Why not?
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 2: Right? What's the makeup? Yeah, the salt cave.
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 2: I've seen somebody mention mud Fossil University on YouTube. That
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 2: is a great I think the guy's name is Roger.
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 2: I need to bring him on the show probably sometime,
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 2: see if he'd come on. I'm just saying I'm not
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 2: saying he'd accept but maybe he would come on the show.
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 2: We'll talk about giants sometime and we can ask him
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 2: about the Himalayan salt. I think that would be really
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 2: cool to ask, you know. I do have that. I
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 2: do have pictures of my the petrified dragon, potentially potentially
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 2: a petrified dragon. It looked like one. And the gentleman
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 2: that we met, the random man that came out of
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 2: the woods when we were at the dog Man hunt
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 2: in Alabama. He brought out of the woods holding a
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 2: dragon part of a dragon's wing, he said, and he
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 2: mentioned Mud Fossil University as well, and said that he
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 2: would like to take that piece of the wing and
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 2: have it analyzed. So it looked like limestone to me,
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 2: But so do all the other giant rocks that look
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 2: like animals and mushroom and stuff. I think it's all limestone, right.
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry. I was looking down. I was writing notes
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 3: so that I can remember what I'm supposed to do
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 3: when I get off your show, because I just I
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 3: want to make sure that I don't forget anything. These
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 3: we've talked about three juicy topics. We've talked about the
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 3: data from just first first study, the data from looking
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 3: at the big Foot War of eighteen fifty five. We
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 3: talked about your son Ben's a story that he's going
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 3: to write. And the other one is is, oh, oh, yeah,
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 3: I've got some new facts about Elkins Creek. Yes, the
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 3: way it is, I'm going publish him.
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 2: Okay. Another we're important another great big foot encounter down
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 2: and I say great. I think it was terrifying to
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 2: some of the people down there at Oakins Creek. But
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 2: but that is the most one of the most famous
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 2: big foot encounters in Georgia, besides the ok Finoki swamp
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 2: attack of eighteen twenty nine. But I don't think that
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 2: that was a bigfoot. I think those were giant humans. Okay,
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 2: But nonetheless, I think this has been a fantastic show. Tonight, John,
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 2: I want to thank you so much for being here
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 2: with me, because this is yeah and can't has a
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 2: good point here. We are all the salts of the earth.
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 2: We are the salt of the earth. Yes, we are
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 2: the salt of the earth, aren't they Maybe.
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 3: In some ways they might be.
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, could be, Damien says himally. And salt comes from
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 2: the mountains in Pakistan, Well maybe those mountains are giants.
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 2: Just saying I don't know. I don't know.
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 3: Well, well, just we can just we can just explore
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 3: some of the facts and see where they lead us.
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 2: Yes, that's all we need to do.
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 3: Is explore facts. It's amazing where facts will lead you
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 3: and where they will lead skeptics and then they don't
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 3: like it, so then they just want to complain. Okay, skeptics,
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 3: you know, they must live in a very very boring
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 3: dead world. I mean that's what I think. We live
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 3: in an exciting world, you and I and all of
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 3: your fans on the Cryptied Huntress. We do have an exciting,
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 3: exciting life because we're looking for cryptives and UFOs.
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 2: We are we are and if you guys would like
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 2: to join us on our adventures live and direct in person,
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 2: please come join us at some of these conferences that
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 2: John organizes. It's amazing. We have a great time doing that. John,
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 2: tell everybody about all the things you've got coming up. Again,
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 2: thank you so much for being here tonight. I am
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 2: super excited. I always have a lot of fun when
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 2: you're here. You talk so much about these things, so
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 2: thank you.
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 3: Else do a lot of research, and I've had a
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 3: lot of experiences. But okay, January the eleventh, We're having
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 3: a UFO conference up in Fannin County, Georgia, the top
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 3: west of Georgia, very near Chattanooga, and I'm working on
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 3: that with Les Durant. It's going to be a lot
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 3: of fun. I believe both you and Matt delf are
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 3: going to be there. I think Eerie Travels is going
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 3: to be there, and we're looking for another speaker or two,
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 3: so that'll be fun. Then we've got the Georgia Bigfoot Conference.
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 3: I believe it's going to end up being a weekend
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 3: and that's going to be the weekend of March March eleventh,
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 3: that'll be the opening ceremony in the Bigfoot round Table
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 3: will be at rim Rose Distillery, the new location in
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 3: in mount Airy, Georgia. Then will be a Demors Georgia
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 3: at Piedmont University for the conference. That's going to be
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 3: a blast. And then a new one that we're announcing
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 3: over this week and next week, the Myrtle Beast Bigfoot
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 3: Festival that's going to be in Myrtle Beach, South Carolina
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 3: at the Sheraton four Points. This guy sound like they
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 3: are all the same dates. That's going to be May
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 3: the eleventh, and that's going to be a lot of fun.
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 3: So come down to Myrtle Beach, enjoy the sun, the fun,
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 3: the weather, and let's talk about Bigfoot. And I hope, Jessica,
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 3: that you can join us. I'd love for you to
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 3: be our keynote speaker there. People need to hear you
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 3: talk about this. I am a firm believer and when
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 3: you talk about it, people love your stories. I know
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 3: they do. I know I do you.
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 2: I appreciate that. I've got a lot to talk about.
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 2: So I appreciate that. John, I'm so sweet of you.
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 2: I do appreciate it very much. And I also wanted
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 2: to mention your Scary Cow as well and scarycast dot
• 1:28:01
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• 1:28:05
  Speaker 2: I want all of my my everybody who's listening to
• 1:28:08
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• 1:28:12
  Speaker 3: You can go to scarycast dot com. There's a link
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 3: to the podcast which is on iHeartRadio that's scary Cast,
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 3: and then there's a link to Bigfoot in Company on YouTube.
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 3: So just go to scarycast dot com and you can
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 3: find what you need. And thank you, and my email
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 3: address and my phone number are on there. They're on
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 3: there for a reason. If you got a question, want
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 3: to ask me something, pick up the phone and call.
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 3: I'm glad to talk to you.
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 2: Oh gosh, you may be getting some phone calls tonight.
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 3: Who knows, John God, I'm glad. Oh no, and I'll Jessica.
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna go ahead and give the number out. I
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 3: don't care. It's eight four three three four zero seventeen
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 3: seventy eight. That is the new UH CRYPTID and UFO
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 3: hotline for my world. Eight four three three four oh
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 3: seventeen seventy eight. Try not to call past midnight. We
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 3: don't call before six. But anyway, just I'm always glad
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 3: to hear from people and come to our conferences. Come
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 3: meet Jessica if you haven't met her, Meet Matt Delf,
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 3: Meet all these great folks that come to our conferences.
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 3: We're also going to have at the Georgia Bigfoot Conference,
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 3: the top dowser in all of Georgia, mister Bill Bill
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 3: the dowser, and he and I have got a great
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 3: Bigfoot story that we will tell you there at the
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 3: conference that's in Demorrist, Georgia at Piedmont University and the
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 3: main date is March March? What March? Thank you? I
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 3: got so many new dates. He kind of get you know,
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 3: I kind of get confused when you're right March twenty second.
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 3: It's going to be a blast. So please come and
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 3: join us Georgia Bigfoot Conference the dot com.
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 2: That's a question here, actually what first of all we are,
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 2: doctor John is Eastern time zone? Y'all? Okay, so Eastern
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 2: time zone. In case you're wondering, I saw can't ask him?
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 2: Uh Will Will would like to know what is a dowser? John?
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 2: What a dow I'm a dowser. I know how to
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 2: dows I've got dowsing rods. What is it?
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 3: Let me walk right here, bring my dowsing rods and explain. Okay,
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 3: give me ten seconds.
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 2: Okay, countdowns on ten nine. Hey, I'm just kidding. Dowsing
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 2: is really cool. Actually, my dad used to downs. He
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 2: take a forked stick like a limb that had a
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 2: fork in it, and he would go find water. The
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 2: stick would move whenever he would get over a water source.
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yes it would. Here are my dowsing rods. These
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 3: are copper number six that I buy from home depot.
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 3: It was real funny. I've got a funny story about that.
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 3: So I am in Clayton, Georgia, and I walked in
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 3: there because I needed I was coming to see mister
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 3: Bill and I've forgotten to bring the dowsing rods. I
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 3: just completely forgot. So I walked in there and so
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 3: I said, I need some number six copper wire, and
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 3: the guy said, what's you gonna do with it? I
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 3: was a little embarrassed. I said, I'm gonna build dowsing rods.
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 3: I've left mine and home. Oh, you're the guy that
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 3: runs the Bigfoot conference. I mean, everybody in that store
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 3: knew that I ran the Georgia Bigfoot conference I had.
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 3: There were probably about ten guys that do dowsing. And
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 3: what you do is you put them out in front
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 3: of you. If you can see this, you put them
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  Speaker 3: out and they will cross or do crazy things if
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  Speaker 3: you come across what you're thinking about. So if you're
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  Speaker 3: thinking about finding water, they will cross. If you're thinking
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  Speaker 3: about finding energy, if you're thinking about finding spirits, they
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  Speaker 3: will cross. And that's what dowsing rods are. All of them.
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  Speaker 3: They've cost about six dollars to bake for number six
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  Speaker 3: copper wire, and you just get it two feet long
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  Speaker 3: the bottom the back part is about six inches. This
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  Speaker 3: is about eighteen inches. You just hold it up in
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  Speaker 3: front of you and use your dowsing rods and you
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  Speaker 3: can find what. I have found my glasses, I have
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  Speaker 3: found my wallet. I have found other things. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: I just have. And mister Bill said, this is great.
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  Speaker 3: I'm gonna show you what it's like when you go
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  Speaker 3: to a cemetery and use dowsing rods, and I'll tell
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  Speaker 3: everybody that story at the Georgia Bigfoot Conference. I'm going
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  Speaker 3: to tell it tonight. So that's your cue. Go get
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 3: tickets and come to the Georgia Bigfoot Conference and hear
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  Speaker 3: about dowsing rods and spirits in a graveyard, followed by
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  Speaker 3: big foight. It's a great.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, we all heard it here first. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know. I don't recommend taking dowsing rods to a cemetery.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. You mean you can. I don't know
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  Speaker 2: if I would, Okay personally, but oh my gosh, you
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  Speaker 2: gun dowsing for anything though you can uh, you can
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  Speaker 2: find buried treasure. You can find anything any dance hidden, okay,
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  Speaker 2: including water and pipes. I think, well, yeah, Will said,
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  Speaker 2: you can find pipes like this too. Okay, so a
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  Speaker 2: lot of things you can find. It works. It definitely works.
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  Speaker 3: Companies and water resource companies won't tell you that they
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  Speaker 3: still use these, but they absolutely do. Because two of
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 3: the guys at Home Depot in Clayton, Georgia, said that, well,
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  Speaker 3: we both worked at Georgia Power and they couldn't they
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 3: couldn't find a lot of buried lines, so they'd send
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  Speaker 3: us out with the dowsing rods and we just find
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  Speaker 3: them right up. Georgia Power one of the largest power
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  Speaker 3: companies in the United States. They use dowsing rods, but
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  Speaker 3: they them.
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  Speaker 4: No.
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  Speaker 3: I love Georgia Power. Has done great stuff up there
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  Speaker 3: in natural resources for Raven County. So they're they're, they're
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  Speaker 3: they're number one on my book. And I have an
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  Speaker 3: old friend Tommy. I used to be in the JCS
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  Speaker 3: with him and he was a vice president up there.
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  Speaker 3: Georgia Power a great guy. So I have nothing but
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 3: wonderful things to say about Georgia Power. And I believe
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  Speaker 3: they use dassing rods.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah. Steve Duke says that she's seen water the
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 2: water Department using rods at her house or somewhere.
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  Speaker 3: Where you live.
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 2: Yes, so she's seen it. Several people have and and
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  Speaker 2: I think that's I think that's pretty cool. That's something
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 2: that we don't talk about very often. So man, I'm
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 2: always seeing. We learned something new again, more new things tonight.
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 2: So John, thank you so much, Thank you so much.
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 2: You got to come back and hang out with us again, San,
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 2: will you I will.
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to try alwead and get some of that
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 3: data because I've got the data, and I might just
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 3: do an exploratory study on that data and see how
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 3: it lines up. So that would be fun. We could
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 3: do that be around Christmas time or something like that.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, awesome, perfect, Well Christmas is coming up quickly and
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 2: we've only got what about one month till Christmas, so
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 2: y'all get your shobbing done. If you want to get
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 2: a really good gift, go to war Woman Goods on Etsy. Okay,
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 2: I'm kind of kidding, but I'm not. You guys, everybody.
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 2: I hope to see you guys again. I'll be back
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 2: on Saturday night. We'll be going on the Hunt Saturday
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 2: night at ten pm live, So y'all come back and
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 2: see me Saturday night, and yes, we will have shows
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 2: next week Monday and Wednesday. Thursday is Thanksgiving, so we'll
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 2: either I have a recorded show that night if you
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 2: guys want to come hang out next Thursday with me.
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 2: I don't think we'll have a live show though, Okay,
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 2: but nonetheless I will have a show for you guys.
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 2: I promise it'll be awesome. And then we'll be back
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 2: next Saturday as well. Okay, all right, John, Well listen,
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• 1:36:19
  Speaker 2: thank you so much Kent and Tomarien and Gus for
• 1:36:21
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• 1:36:26
  Speaker 2: guys so much. It means the world to me too. Okay,
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 2: all right, John, We'll see you next time over here.
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 2: You guys be safe out there, keep your head on
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  Speaker 2: a swivel, and I'll see on Saturday, all right.
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 3: Bye John, Bye Jim.
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  Speaker 4: Bye.
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  Speaker 5: Bye name tis time.
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  Speaker 4: Three to be Stay three three tam tams.
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  Speaker 7: Three times, teams, three
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