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Not So Fast Episode 1 · Not So Fast

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  Speaker 1: We'll be right back.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome to Not So Fast. I'm Andrew Perloff. He's Paul Pabst.
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  Speaker 3: We are so.
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  Speaker 2: Excited about our first show, NBC Sports Now Peacock.
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  Speaker 3: Paul, tell them about the show.
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  Speaker 1: Pearl, great to have you back. A lot of people
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  Speaker 1: said this would never happen. A lot of people said
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  Speaker 1: this should never happen. DP gave us our show. We're
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  Speaker 1: right down the hall.
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  Speaker 4: It's great.
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  Speaker 1: An hour every day, chopping it up. College football, pro football, PCA.
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  Speaker 1: You know I'm getting that in. A lot to hit to.
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  Speaker 1: But you and I, we've been doing this forever. We've
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  Speaker 1: known you from the Dan Patrick Show days. Good to
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  Speaker 1: have you back. You know, I always chop it up.
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  Speaker 1: We're always texting.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So I left this show, Dan Patrick Show, at the
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  Speaker 2: end of 21. And we texted pretty much every day
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  Speaker 2: in between. We're old friends and we're not an embrace
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  Speaker 2: debate type. Like we like to argue about things.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: But we keep it friendly.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Keep it friendly. Warm takes coming up. But you and I,
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  Speaker 1: they kind of want to do that odd couple thing
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  Speaker 1: on TV. And you are from just to give people
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  Speaker 1: the background. Lower Marion, Pennsylvania, kind of a bougie neighborhood.
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  Speaker 4: Home of?
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  Speaker 1: Kobe Bryant, you went to high school.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Kobe Bryant's high school.
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  Speaker 1: Then you went to Dartmouth.
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  Speaker 2: Yep.
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  Speaker 1: JV on the basketball team, former athlete.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I think that's a stretch, but you're a former
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  Speaker 3: athlete as well.
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  Speaker 1: I was a two-time varsity archer, and where you stand motionless,
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  Speaker 1: but you know.
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  Speaker 3: Is that a thing?
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  Speaker 1: It is. Southern Illinois University State School, five and a
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  Speaker 1: half years. So that means I'm smarter than you. I
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  Speaker 1: was in college for a longer time.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I kind of view things from an analytical point
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  Speaker 2: of view, or at least try to.
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  Speaker 3: You might call me a sports nerd. Paul, you're more
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  Speaker 3: of an everyman. Is that what we're going for?
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  Speaker 1: Man of the people, C's get degrees type guy.
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  Speaker 3: All right.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you're going to get a lot of that on
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  Speaker 2: Not So Fast. It's very similar. The DNA of the
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  Speaker 2: Dan Patrick Show is what we have. Chemistry and fun.
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  Speaker 1: The great thing is Dan is right down the hall.
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  Speaker 1: So if something happens on the Dan Patrick Show, we're
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  Speaker 1: going to call to the pen. Just wave Dan down.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely.
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  Speaker 2: Hopefully call the pen because things are going well and
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  Speaker 2: not because we need. rescuing but of course i'm not
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  Speaker 2: the only person who is back back in the dp
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  Speaker 2: show man cave aaron donald returned to the rams officially
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  Speaker 2: returned on sunday 20 million dollars for this year up
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  Speaker 2: to 30 million dollars with bonuses paul what was your
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  Speaker 2: reaction when you saw donald was official well they ran.
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  Speaker 1: I know it wasn't a surprise but all month i've
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  Speaker 1: been thinking this is like uh It's like Warren Buffett
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  Speaker 1: winning the Powerball. The Rams didn't even need it. They
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  Speaker 1: got Trent McDuffie in the offseason. They get Miles Garrett
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  Speaker 1: in the offseason. Then this guy, he just turned 35,
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  Speaker 1: Aaron Donald. And I don't look at him as old.
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  Speaker 1: I look at him as rested and ready. And he's
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  Speaker 1: probably sitting there at home going, I'm in the drop-off
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  Speaker 1: line with my kids and I could bench 450 pounds.
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  Speaker 1: What am I doing here?
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  Speaker 3: Oh, absolutely. I like that. He's not old. He's rested.
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  Speaker 3: I would have used that for myself.
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  Speaker 2: But, you know, everybody's reacting the same way to this.
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  Speaker 2: The Rams moved up to plus 500 as Super Bowl favorites.
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  Speaker 2: Everyone just assumes this is going to work. Paul, I'm
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  Speaker 2: going to say not so fast.
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  Speaker 4: Are you poo-pooing?
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  Speaker 1: Are you throwing off the first not so fast?
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  Speaker 3: I'm going with the first not so fast.
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  Speaker 1: All right, checking that.
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  Speaker 3: My problem with the Rams is... It's obvious. Age and
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  Speaker 3: they're thin at some positions.
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  Speaker 4: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: Donald is 35.
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  Speaker 2: Quarterback Matthew Stafford is 38. Devontae Adam is 33 at
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  Speaker 2: wide receiver.
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  Speaker 3: Thin on the O-line. Thin at receiver.
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  Speaker 2: Everyone is so excited right now, but I think this
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  Speaker 2: is more emotion than logic.
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  Speaker 1: But they scored 500 points last year. If they had
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  Speaker 1: just a little bit more defense, they would have been
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  Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl. They were almost in the Super
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  Speaker 1: Bowl anyway. But now with McDuffie, who doesn't get enough
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  Speaker 1: credit for being a great defensive back, My only concern
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  Speaker 1: would be Matthew Stafford staying healthy. Stetson Bennett is a backup.
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  Speaker 1: He's almost 30 years old. He's not fantastic. But you've
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  Speaker 1: got Puka Nakua. If he doesn't get in trouble off
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  Speaker 1: the field, he's fantastic. I can't see a way other
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  Speaker 1: than health. that this team isn't there.
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  Speaker 6: At the end.
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  Speaker 1: It's hard to picture.
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  Speaker 3: Well, here's my issue.
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  Speaker 2: It's really a bigger NFL topic. Is there ever really
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  Speaker 2: a team to beat in the NFL?
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  Speaker 3: Maybe the Chiefs a few years ago. Chiefs.
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  Speaker 2: But it's so wide open. You need to get through
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  Speaker 2: 17 regular season games. I need to get through the playoffs. Listen,
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  Speaker 2: the Rams were awesome last year and Seattle took them down.
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  Speaker 2: How do you know there's not going to be another
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  Speaker 2: Seattle this year?
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  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, you can't say there's nobody else going to
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  Speaker 1: challenge them. Or I saw a show earlier today said
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  Speaker 1: they could go 16-0, 17-0. Let's pump the brakes a
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  Speaker 1: little bit on that. But again, Aaron Donald, This guy
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  Speaker 1: had a sack off in the Super Bowl. Rams plus 500,
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  Speaker 1: Bills plus 1,000, Ravens, they're in that mix. Seahawks got
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  Speaker 1: to be a little bit upset. But Aaron Donald, you
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  Speaker 1: look at his career, he left a little bit early,
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  Speaker 1: 32 years old. But if he doesn't get the pressure
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  Speaker 1: on Joe Burrow in that Super Bowl, they're probably losing
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  Speaker 1: that one. They're probably losing it. They only sack off
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  Speaker 1: in Super Bowl.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, listen.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not going to question Aaron Donald. He's one of
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  Speaker 2: the three best defensive linemen I've ever seen play.
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  Speaker 3: He's incredible. But that plus 500 number makes me nervous.
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  Speaker 2: Usually when a team is that heavy in the preseason,
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  Speaker 2: it does not work out. So, yeah, I'm going to
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  Speaker 2: say not so fast. All right, Paul, yesterday was cut-down
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  Speaker 2: day in the NFL, and a lot of teams... kept
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  Speaker 2: four quarterbacks, which is interesting. We'll get to that later.
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  Speaker 2: What other stories stood out to you on Sunday in
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  Speaker 2: the NFL?
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  Speaker 1: Well, this is not getting a lot of pub because
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  Speaker 1: it's not the prettiest story of all time, but Josh Jacobs,
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  Speaker 1: the star running back of the Packers, is on the
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  Speaker 1: commissioner's exempt list. Not the list you want to be
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  Speaker 1: on because that list is infinite. It could be four weeks.
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  Speaker 3: It could be eight weeks.
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  Speaker 1: Remember Adrian Peterson back in the day? We're not going
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  Speaker 1: to get too into the weeds on the details, but
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  Speaker 1: the bigger picture is for Packer fans. It seems like
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  Speaker 1: every year there's somebody missing. Christian Watson, the wide receiver.
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  Speaker 1: Tucker Kraft last year. And Jordan Love, who is a
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  Speaker 1: very good quarterback, but no one's calling a great quarterback,
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  Speaker 1: seems to need all hands on deck. That'd be very
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  Speaker 1: concerning in that division.
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  Speaker 3: Ooh, I'm going to call Jordan Love close to great.
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  Speaker 1: Close to great is fine.
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  Speaker 3: Now, Josh Jacobs, very good running back.
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  Speaker 2: 4.0 yards per carry last year. Paul, is that really
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  Speaker 2: making that big a difference?
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  Speaker 1: Oh, you need him in the hardcore days in December
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  Speaker 1: when it's snowing out. He is not Jameer Gibbs. He
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  Speaker 1: doesn't have that breakaway speed. He's not Bijan Robinson. But that,
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  Speaker 1: you don't know when he's coming back. And that not knowing,
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  Speaker 1: I think, is a big problem for the Packers.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, listen, if they stay healthy, I think
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  Speaker 2: they're going to be a very good team. People are
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  Speaker 2: dismissing them. And Josh Jacobs will probably be back. Last
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  Speaker 2: few players on Commissioner's list, about six to seven weeks.
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  Speaker 2: So we'll probably see him again.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of other things happened. Will Levis got cut.
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  Speaker 3: J.J.
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  Speaker 1: McCarthy staying. A little bit of a surprise there.
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  Speaker 3: For now.
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  Speaker 6: For now.
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  Speaker 3: For now.
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  Speaker 1: All right, let's get to some college football. There's college
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  Speaker 1: football week zero yesterday. And, you know, week zero is
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  Speaker 1: not always the greatest thing in the world. It's a
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  Speaker 1: mishmash of games. And You're going to watch Virginia versus
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  Speaker 1: NC State. You might not watch that in Week 5.
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  Speaker 1: But North Carolina TCU in Dublin, 12 o'clock game, everybody watched.
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  Speaker 1: Not pretty, bit of a slugfest. Bill Belichick pulled it out,
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  Speaker 1: and they really do have a good defensive line down there.
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  Speaker 1: And I think that's what's interesting, that their defense is
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  Speaker 1: much improved. And Belichick is a defensive first guy. Not
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  Speaker 1: the greatest game of all time, and I know you're
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  Speaker 1: getting ready to just pour cold water all over this one.
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  Speaker 1: But a comparison last year, which had tons of expectations
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  Speaker 1: and a disappointing game versus TCU, Lesser expectations and a win.
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  Speaker 1: Here's a little bit of Bill Belichick, out of his mind,
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  Speaker 1: thrilled after the victory.
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  Speaker 7: You're always trying to strive for perfection. You never achieve it,
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  Speaker 7: but you try to get as close as you can.
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  Speaker 7: You try to be excellent. You try to be really
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  Speaker 7: consistently good. That's what we try to do individually. That's
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  Speaker 7: what we try to do as a team. There's plenty
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  Speaker 7: of times when we fell short of that, but certainly
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  Speaker 7: we've made progress. I feel like this is a good
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  Speaker 7: step for us.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, no jet lag on that guy. I'm ready to
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  Speaker 1: run through a wall for him. But, you know, everything
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  Speaker 1: cooled down. Remember Dion a couple years ago, and then
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  Speaker 1: it cooled off a little bit. Last year it was
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  Speaker 1: all Belichick all the time, and it cooled off a
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  Speaker 1: little bit. They've got a tough schedule, but it sets
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  Speaker 1: up really nice for them. You know what's coming up, right?
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  Speaker 3: Oh, they've got a couple. They've got a gimme and
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  Speaker 3: then Clemson down the road.
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  Speaker 1: If they can get past Clemson, you set up early October,
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  Speaker 1: Notre Dame at home. Everybody will be back in if
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  Speaker 1: they're undefeated.
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to go to my second pick. Not so fast.
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  Speaker 1: Way too early.
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  Speaker 3: It's kind of like a Heisman pose. Not so fast.
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  Speaker 3: Come on.
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  Speaker 2: They beat TCU 15-10 in the pouring rain in Dublin.
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  Speaker 2: TCU had been practicing in 105 degree weather. They had
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  Speaker 2: no idea what was going on over there. They didn't
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  Speaker 2: want to be there. They had their own locker room issues.
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  Speaker 2: And Belichick wins 15-10. Yes, their defensive line finally sort
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  Speaker 2: of woke up after the first half because they were.
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  Speaker 3: Getting run all over.
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  Speaker 2: Quarterback Billy Edwards was fine, but the hype is back
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  Speaker 2: because last.
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  Speaker 3: Year there was so much hype.
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  Speaker 2: Remember, North Carolina scored on their first drive against TCU.
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  Speaker 3: They got blown out.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody was in the building.
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  Speaker 3: Everyone's back.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's been a little slower after that win,
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  Speaker 2: but people are looking at a 15-10 win, which in
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  Speaker 2: a way they probably should have lost. TCU had some
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  Speaker 2: fourth down opportunities that they blew. had so many mistakes,
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  Speaker 2: so many penalties. I'm definitely not so fasting this one.
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  Speaker 1: But I got to say, it's good for college football
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  Speaker 1: to have Bill Belichick and his team relevant because it
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  Speaker 1: went away so fast. And you need these characters in
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  Speaker 1: college football. Like Lane Kiffin, he might be a villain,
• 8:46
  Speaker 1: but you need these villains.
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  Speaker 2: Wait, so does that mean you're rooting for Bill Belichick
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  Speaker 2: or you're just rooting for the story?
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  Speaker 1: Rooting for the story. Bill and I aren't that close.
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  Speaker 1: But I like the fact that Bill Belichick might set
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  Speaker 1: up a situation where if they could be undefeated versus
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  Speaker 1: Notre Dame, that's fantastic. By the way, bonus coverage. Love
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  Speaker 1: the Ronald Curry-era UNC uniforms they wore in Dublin the
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  Speaker 1: other days. Those are gorgeous.
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  Speaker 2: I see, again, the hype. The hype around Bill Belichick.
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  Speaker 2: You know who is going to have something to say
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  Speaker 2: about the uniforms, of course? Bill's girlfriend, Jordan Hudson. And
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  Speaker 2: maybe that's why it seems like I'm rooting against UNC.
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  Speaker 1: Way too soon for that one. A little bit more
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  Speaker 1: college football. USC the other day, in front of a
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  Speaker 1: sparse crowd at the Coliseum, took care of San Jose State.
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  Speaker 1: Not a great second half. Great first half. Their quarterback
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  Speaker 1: was great. A lot of good young players on the team,
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  Speaker 1: but That's a team where we're going to talk about
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  Speaker 1: the people in the stands, all of them, both of them, later.
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  Speaker 1: But USC needs to get back in the mix. They've
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  Speaker 1: had one 10-plus win season in the past eight years,
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  Speaker 1: and that's not very USC-ish. They've got this freshman. You've
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  Speaker 1: got to watch this kid. Check this out. I love
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  Speaker 1: this guy. Luke Waffle, the Waffle House, as I call him,
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  Speaker 1: he is a monster. He looks like a— Wow, look
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  Speaker 1: at that monster, number 94.
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  Speaker 3: A little J.J. Watt or Buddy J.J. Watt, maybe?
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  Speaker 1: It's very Watt-ish.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, the whole freshman class is insane at USC.
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  Speaker 2: Hard to tell against San Jose State. They completely outclassed them.
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  Speaker 2: I was thrilled about Jaden Maiava, quarterback. I'm not going
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  Speaker 2: to say Heisman yet.
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  Speaker 3: You can't go Heisman after week zero.
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  Speaker 4: But you're calling.
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  Speaker 1: That's your guy, Maiava.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, I'm so into him.
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  Speaker 2: There's tons of quarterbacks that are going to next year's draft.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, Jaden Maiava is definitely one of them. You
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  Speaker 2: got the star freshman tight end. You got a young receiver.
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  Speaker 2: Now listen, in 90 degree heat, beating San Jose State's
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  Speaker 2: one thing. Are they going to travel in the Big Ten?
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  Speaker 2: Tough schedule for USC. But you said something interesting.
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  Speaker 3: You know, they need this. Lincoln Riley needs a big season.
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  Speaker 1: And they need buzz.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, they need buzz. I'm not going to say Lincoln
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  Speaker 3: Riley's in trouble.
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  Speaker 2: But it feels like USC definitely at least needs a challenge.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not saying they have to be national title contenders.
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  Speaker 2: I really think they might need to make the playoffs, Paul,
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  Speaker 2: or they're going to get sick of Lincoln Riley.
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  Speaker 3: But that was a great start.
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  Speaker 1: Luke Waffle looked like Jefferson at Fast Times at Ridgemont
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  Speaker 1: High out there yesterday.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely. Absolutely. All right.
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  Speaker 2: We're going to have plenty of college football on the show,
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  Speaker 2: including Yogi Roth from NBC Sports.
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  Speaker 3: Awesome college football analyst. We're talking a little more week
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  Speaker 3: zero action, but let's look big picture. Who's going to
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  Speaker 3: be this year's Indiana? We'll discuss next. Not so fast.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome to the show. Crush that. That was amazingly good.
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  Speaker 1: Your hair looks pretty good.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you.
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  Speaker 1: Which is, I know, your priority.
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  Speaker 4: Of course.
• 11:24
  Speaker 1: Pearl, check this out. A little midday pick-me-up for you.
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  Speaker 1: This is a flyover during a South African soccer match.
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  Speaker 4: What?
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  Speaker 1: That seems a little close.
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  Speaker 3: You think? It's one of the most incredible things I've
• 11:36
  Speaker 3: ever seen.
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  Speaker 1: Can someone in the control tower tell Maverick and Goose
• 11:38
  Speaker 1: to pump the brakes a little bit?
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  Speaker 4: Because that is.
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  Speaker 1: That is snug.
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  Speaker 2: I would have had a full panic attack if I
• 11:44
  Speaker 2: was in the crowd. You know at Auburn when the
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  Speaker 2: hawk goes around?
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  Speaker 3: Oh, I love that.
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  Speaker 2: I'm always like, everyone run, there's a hawk on the loose.
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  Speaker 2: That plane would have sent me into a panic. I
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  Speaker 2: would have said, everyone get out of here.
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  Speaker 1: War Eagle. All right, back on Not So Fast.
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  Speaker 3: I'm Paps.
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  Speaker 1: He's Pearl up right here on NBC Sports Now. We're
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  Speaker 1: doing a little thing every day here called Warm Takes. Now,
• 12:02
  Speaker 1: you might be used to hot takes. We don't want
• 12:04
  Speaker 1: any of you kids out there getting burned. Stay away
• 12:06
  Speaker 1: from the stove. These are called Warm Takes. Waving you in,
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  Speaker 1: nice and cuddly. I'll go first, you're second.
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  Speaker 3: Here we go.
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  Speaker 1: Saw an article the other day. Who is this year's
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  Speaker 1: Indiana of college football? Who's the next surprise team? So
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  Speaker 1: I got it for you. The next Indiana is nobody.
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  Speaker 1: Let's not move on from what Indiana did. Let's take
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  Speaker 1: a beat here before the 2026 season and look what
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  Speaker 1: Indiana football did last year. They were good in 2024. Right.
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  Speaker 1: And they're like, oh, cute story. In 2025, 16-0 with
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  Speaker 1: Kurt Cignetti. They get the Heisman Trophy with Mendoza. They
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  Speaker 1: run through the playoffs. They really bury everybody. And they
• 12:38
  Speaker 1: do it against the heavyweights, Ohio State, Penn State, everybody.
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  Speaker 1: What Indiana football did is galactic. It's an all-time college
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  Speaker 1: football story.
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  Speaker 4: Pearl, do you want me.
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  Speaker 1: 10 win seasons Indiana football had before Curt Cignetti got there?
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  Speaker 3: I'm guessing not a lot.
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  Speaker 1: None. None 10 win seasons. None 10 win seasons. So
• 12:56
  Speaker 1: before we move on and try to find the next Indiana,
• 12:59
  Speaker 1: let's look back and say that was one of the
• 13:00
  Speaker 1: more special college football seasons of all time.
• 13:03
  Speaker 3: I have an option. Could Indiana be the next Indiana?
• 13:08
  Speaker 1: I'm giving that to you. Okay, because no one's excited.
• 13:10
  Speaker 3: About this team.
• 13:10
  Speaker 2: They're number six in the polls, and I don't think
• 13:13
  Speaker 2: anyone's talking about them repeating. I think it's hard to
• 13:15
  Speaker 2: imagine them repeating, considering they never won before.
• 13:17
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 13:17
  Speaker 1: This goes back to the old Indiana sentiment. Remember back
• 13:20
  Speaker 1: in the day when they'd have Antoine Randall-El, and you'd
• 13:22
  Speaker 1: be like, oh, they're six and five, and they made
• 13:24
  Speaker 1: the Blue Bonnet Bowl. This is not those days anymore.
• 13:26
  Speaker 1: Kurt Cignetti is going to make them consistently good.
• 13:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, in the NIL era, though, you're going
• 13:31
  Speaker 2: to see teams like this. I'm not sure I totally
• 13:34
  Speaker 2: agree that there's not going to be a next Indiana.
• 13:36
  Speaker 2: I don't know if the basketball schools, I don't know
• 13:38
  Speaker 2: if Kentucky can do it, but I think we're going
• 13:39
  Speaker 2: to see some weird results. All right, I'm going to
• 13:41
  Speaker 2: turn to the NFL. Yesterday was cut-down day, and five
• 13:44
  Speaker 2: teams kept four quarterbacks on their roster. Well, really, four
• 13:47
  Speaker 2: and a half because Cleveland snuck Dylan Gabriel onto the IR.
• 13:51
  Speaker 2: But this is a really interesting move to me. That
• 13:52
  Speaker 2: means some sixth linebacker out there is not getting a job.
• 13:55
  Speaker 2: I love it when teams do this. Because quarterback development
• 13:58
  Speaker 2: is the most important thing in the entire NFL. The
• 14:02
  Speaker 2: only way to be consistent is to have great quarterback play.
• 14:05
  Speaker 2: And there's a couple teams that have done this over
• 14:06
  Speaker 2: the years. The New England Patriots. Remember when they kept
• 14:09
  Speaker 2: four quarterbacks in the year 2000, Paul? You know who
• 14:11
  Speaker 2: the fourth quarterback was?
• 14:13
  Speaker 4: Don't.
• 14:14
  Speaker 3: His name was Tom Brady.
• 14:15
  Speaker 2: He went on to win multiple Super Bowls.
• 14:17
  Speaker 1: Heard of him.
• 14:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he was behind Rohan Davey, I believe.
• 14:20
  Speaker 4: Oh, LSU.
• 14:21
  Speaker 3: Eagles always keep a bunch of quarterbacks.
• 14:22
  Speaker 2: The year they won their first Super Bowl in 2017,
• 14:25
  Speaker 2: they had three quarterbacks play.
• 14:26
  Speaker 3: You need depth, but it's not just about depth.
• 14:28
  Speaker 2: There are some really interesting players the teams want to
• 14:31
  Speaker 2: hold on to in Cleveland.
• 14:33
  Speaker 3: Talon Green out of Arkansas. He's 6'6.
• 14:36
  Speaker 2: I saw this dude at the Senior Bowl. He is
• 14:38
  Speaker 2: very talented. I just think he hasn't really learned how
• 14:41
  Speaker 2: to play the position yet. You've got Cole Payton in Philly.
• 14:44
  Speaker 2: You've got Jack Strand in Atlanta. A big kid out
• 14:47
  Speaker 2: of Minnesota State played really well. I love being aggressive
• 14:51
  Speaker 2: at quarterback and sort of stockpiling these players.
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: What are the old cliches? If you have two quarterbacks,
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: you have Dunn. If you have three quarterbacks, you have Depth.
• 14:58
  Speaker 1: What do you have if you have four quarterbacks? I'm
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: not sure what the hell we have there. But here's
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: the thing. Except for your Eagles, I would say any
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: of those teams on that list that have four quarterbacks,
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: they don't have a quarterback of the future. If you
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: look at the Steelers, they're in kind of a good
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: position because they know that Rodgers is going in a
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: little bit. But Drew Aller, do they want him? Will Howard,
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: do they want him? That's a good position to be in.
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: But then I look at the Viking situation. Kyler Murray
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: is a test drive.
• 15:24
  Speaker 3: J.J.
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: McCarthy is a move on from pretty soon if they
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: find someone. You know, the Steelers, I think, are in
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: better shape than others. But when you have four quarterbacks,
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: I think you're in the perpetual development mode.
• 15:33
  Speaker 3: Wow. Let's see if J.J. McCarthy's on the Vikings roster
• 15:36
  Speaker 3: by the end of the preseason.
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: I was surprised he was yesterday.
• 15:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but they could make a trade.
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: I think Carson Wentz is really the natural backup there
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: to Kyler Murray.
• 15:44
  Speaker 3: All right, Paul, you're up.
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: All right, here's my next warm take, and this goes
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: back to college football. All right, we have a rule
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: on Not So Fast, and it's two rules.
• 15:51
  Speaker 3: Here we go. Here it is.
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: Never say before a game, they have no chance, and
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: never say this one's over. Especially in college football. If you,
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: like me, were watching William & Mary vs. Villanova the
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: other night, and William & Mary is down 10 with
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: 57 seconds left, you don't turn the channel. You stick
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: with it. Bill & Mary found a way to pull
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: out this comeback against Villanova with 57 seconds left. They
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: scored 13 points in 57 seconds. It doesn't seem mathematically possible.
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: So don't be one of those guys who say they
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: have no chance or this game's over because you're going
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: to get burned. I go back to Appalachian State. The
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: home of, they have no chance, beating Michigan over a
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: decade ago.
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: I mean, that really goes back to my early days
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: at the Dan Patrick Show. Dan's always been held up
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: on that. I don't want to hear no chance or
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: it's a done deal because it never is.
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: It's sports. It's totally crazy.
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, by the way, anyone who doesn't know, Paul actually
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: does watch these crazy games. Not that it's crazy to
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: watch William & Mary Villanova, but it's crazy to text
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: me at 1 a.m. because some school that I've never
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: heard of is in a close game.
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: I'm glad you tuned in. I'm glad you tuned in.
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: All right, my next warm take is about Fernando Mendoza,
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: the number one overall pick. As of right now, we
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: don't know who the Raiders starter is. It's going to
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: be Kirk Cousins. In fact, Mendoza could be third string.
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: He had a rough preseason. Under 50% completion. Got hit
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: more than any quarterback in the entire NFL in the preseason.
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: But Paul... If you're going to bury him, I'm going
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: to say not so fast.
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: That's your third not so fast.
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: That's my third not so fast.
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: The Raiders O-line, their second string O-line that was protecting Mendoza,
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: did not protect him. He had no time whatsoever. The
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: Raiders starting line was pretty good for Kirk Cousins. So
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: you cannot read too much into preseason. I've made this
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: mistake so many times in the past. Remember when I
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: told you Kenny Pickett was going to be in the
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: Hall of Fame because he was lighting up the.
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: Preseason for the Steelers?
• 17:36
  Speaker 8: Sure.
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: The opposite is true. If you struggle a little.
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: Bit, you have no idea what the coaches were trying
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: to do. They're probably going to want to see Fernando
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: Mendoza under some live fire. I've seen a lot of
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: people say, ooh, maybe they made a mistake at number
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: one overall. Do not say that. He made a lot
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: of great plays in the preseason. Clearly can see the field,
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: has great tools. I don't know when he's going to start.
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: I would guess midseason, Paul, but I'm not worried at all.
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: About Fernando Mendoza.
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I really like the Raiders' plan, if it is
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: the plan. They haven't announced who the starter is yet,
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: but I assume it's going to be, as Dan Patrick
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: said on the show, it better not be Fernando Mendoza.
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: It better be Cousins. You bring Cousins in with the
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: thought of starting him. It goes back to, remember Jared
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: Goff years ago and Case Keenum? They let Goff sit.
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: I think this is a great plan by the Raiders.
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: If they say to Mendoza, We're not interested in you starting.
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: It's a little apples and oranges back in the Alex Smith,
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes days. Mahomes sit 90% of that season. But
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: let's be smart. Let's let Kirk Cousins take the hits,
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: especially there's like a four-game stretch in October where the
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: Raiders have some tough games. My prediction for this, I'm
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: calling my shot here on Not So Fast. By the way,
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: you're up 3-0 Not So Fast on me. I will
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: go week eight at the Jets. That is Fernando Mendoza's
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: first start. My guess is the Raiders will be under. 500,
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: well under. 500 at that point. You put them against
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: the Jets, who are not known for picking off people
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: a lot, and pretty decent defense, but that's your spot.
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: Mendoza starts, gets it for the rest of the season,
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: unless something good happens, like... Kirk Cousins is leading you
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: to an above 500 record.
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: You know what worries me? After that Jets game, which
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: I like that. Jets defense is not terrible, by the way.
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: Not terrible.
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: You got Seattle and Denver sitting there.
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: Can you start them against the Jets and then put
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: Cousins back in to be the sacrificial lamb for those games?
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: That's not easy, Paul.
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: That's a fair point. I like where you're going there.
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: All right, let's play a little game here. We like
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: to play games on Not So Fast.
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: I'm Pabst.
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: He's Perloff.
• 19:22
  Speaker 6: Here we go.
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: This game is called Who Said It? That silhouette is
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: not Robert Redford. It is some football person, from what
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: I'm told in my ear, who said this. This kid's
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: not going to fail, obviously. I put my job on
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: that one. But he's not going to fail. He's special.
• 19:37
  Speaker 8: Ooh.
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: Well.
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: My job on the line.
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: Maybe off my warm take, this was Raiders coach Clint
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: Kubiak talking about Fernando Mendoza.
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: I'm going to go, I'm going to go, man, I
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: don't know on this one. I'm going to say Bill
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: Belichick talking about his new starting quarterback, but I don't
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: feel good about that pick.
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: Oh, okay, okay. Here we go.
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: This kid's not going to fail.
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: Obviously, I put my job on that one.
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: But he's not going to fail. He's special.
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: Robert Sala, Mr. Buff, great skull, very happy about his quarterback,
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: Cam Ward.
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: Oh, boy.
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: Paul, I watched him in preseason. I am a big
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: Cam Ward supporter. He did not play well at all.
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: So hopefully Sala is right, though, because Cam Ward has
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: a lot of talent, but it was not coming together
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: in the preseason.
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: You know, what else is the head coach going to say?
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: You know, Cam Ward, I don't feel good about this
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: season at all, but I've inherited this kid, and he's
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: under contract. Robert Sala's got to be positive. All right,
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: let's go one more round. We're both 0 for 2 there.
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: This is round two.
• 20:36
  Speaker 6: Who said it?
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: Here's a quote. Had a Pro Bowl here, had a
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: good amount of accolades. So regardless of the reaction, I
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: love the city. We have a home out here, we
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: still have a house and whatnot.
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: Oh, okay, so that's somebody who returned to their city.
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: I'd like to go first. I'm going to go Odell
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: Beckham with the Giants. He still has a house there.
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: He seems like a sensible man, homeowner.
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: Ooh, I don't know.
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: I'm going to go Eagles backup quarterback Andy Dalton because
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: they played the Bengals in week three of the preseason.
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: God, that's a deep cut.
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: But I think it might have been in Philly. I
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: have to check that.
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: Let's check it out.
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: Here we go.
• 21:10
  Speaker 5: Had a Pro Bowl here. Like, had a good amount
• 21:13
  Speaker 5: of accolades. So, regardless of the reaction, like, I mean,
• 21:18
  Speaker 5: I had I love the city. We have a home
• 21:23
  Speaker 5: out here.
• 21:24
  Speaker 6: We still have our house and whatnot.
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: Keeping the house in Miami, smart move by him. Smart
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: move by him.
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: Tua played a little better against his former team, but
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: I'm really worried about that situation. As we sit here today,
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: we don't have a Falcons starter. I think there are
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: some Falcons fans who are going to wish that he
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: was back in Miami.
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: I don't think he's going to get the job done.
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: Do you think it's a done deal? The other day
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: you were saying you think it's Pennix until.
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: You know, Pettis didn't start his final preseason game, so
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: it depends on health.
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: I always thought that was a good thing if you're
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: not starting your final.
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: Well, not when you're coming off another major injury. So
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: that's a deal with Michael Pettis.
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: All right, stick around. Coming up, Yogi Roth of NBC
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: Sports to get you all set up for the college
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: football season. Paffs and Perloff, stick around. Not so fast.
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: Over two.
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we should have gotten two up. I remembered. I
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: saw that. I think I heard that quote.
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: That should have been Odell Beckham. That was a good call.
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: Wrong, but a good call. No, I'll give you half
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: a point. Oh, thanks. Welcome back.
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: Not so fast. I'm Andrew Perloff. He's Paul Pabst. Now, Paul,
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: I understand we're not the only new show on NBC
• 22:22
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• 22:23
  Speaker 1: Our boy John Fanta, Fanta in 60 tonight, 6 p.m. Eastern,
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: right here, right here on NBC. Can't wait for Fanta.
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: I love John Fanta. I also love our upcoming guest.
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: He's one of the smartest minds in college football, former
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: Pitt receiver, former USC quarterback coach, Yogi Roth, who is
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: going to be calling Big Ten games for NBC.
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: Yogi, we are so excited. You're our new teammate. How
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: are you doing?
• 22:47
  Speaker 6: Hey, you know what? I'm just showering you guys with love.
• 22:50
  Speaker 9: I mean, I've been listening to you for a while,
• 22:53
  Speaker 9: and to see this show come out, to watch it
• 22:55
  Speaker 9: now in real person, to see that set behind you,
• 22:57
  Speaker 9: I mean, This is not like Dan's garage anymore.
• 22:59
  Speaker 6: I mean, you guys are killing it, man. Congratulations. Just
• 23:02
  Speaker 6: thrilled for you and all the work you put into
• 23:04
  Speaker 6: it and what you have now.
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: Thank you, brother. It's great to have you on this show.
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: I want to go back before we go forward and
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: look at the 2026 season. I was saying the other day,
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: I saw an article that said, who's the next Indiana
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: that come from nowhere team that does it? I don't
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: want to skip past what Indiana's done the past two years.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: Winning the national title, 16-0, Mendoza gets the Heisman, Kurt Cignetti.
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: You remember the days. You're not that old, but you're
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: old enough to remember when Indiana winning six games was
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: a big deal. It was galactic what they did last year,
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: wasn't it?
• 23:32
  Speaker 9: It was beautiful on every front, and it's given everybody
• 23:35
  Speaker 9: hope and also given a lot of head coaches a
• 23:38
  Speaker 9: lot of stress because now you've got to win. If
• 23:39
  Speaker 9: they can do it in Indiana, why can't you do
• 23:41
  Speaker 9: it at insert school X, if you will? But to me,
• 23:44
  Speaker 9: so many core memories come up. I was at the
• 23:47
  Speaker 9: Heisman Trophy. And I've been covering the Heisman for probably
• 23:50
  Speaker 9: 15 years now. And Fernando wins it, of course. And
• 23:53
  Speaker 9: he walks into this room that's like the media room.
• 23:56
  Speaker 9: And he doesn't know it, but about 12, 15 of
• 23:58
  Speaker 9: his teammates, you know, at NIL, you're flying on a PJ.
• 24:01
  Speaker 9: You find your way to New York City. And they're
• 24:02
  Speaker 9: all kind of waiting for him there. And he walks in. And,
• 24:06
  Speaker 9: you know, the last time we were at like a
• 24:08
  Speaker 9: crazy house party was probably a while ago.
• 24:10
  Speaker 6: It felt like that because he rolls in. They surprise him.
• 24:13
  Speaker 9: They start mosh pitting, jumping up and down like only
• 24:15
  Speaker 9: bros can do in football, like a postgame celebration, if
• 24:18
  Speaker 9: you will. And it was just such an innocent but
• 24:21
  Speaker 9: amazing moment to watch that happen in real time. And
• 24:24
  Speaker 9: I've known Fernando since he was a two star recruit
• 24:26
  Speaker 9: coming out of Miami. He went to Cal and I
• 24:27
  Speaker 9: called a bunch of his games back in the day.
• 24:29
  Speaker 9: So to watch that arc and then you add Insignetti, who,
• 24:33
  Speaker 9: you know, Pittsburgh guy, you know, legendary Pittsburgh family coach
• 24:36
  Speaker 9: at Pitt back in the day as well.
• 24:38
  Speaker 6: To watch him do it the long road. I mean,
• 24:40
  Speaker 6: it's kind of like you guys. You've been doing this,
• 24:42
  Speaker 6: you know, your careers forever.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we're just like Fernando Mendoza. We're just like Chris Cignetti. Exactly.
• 24:47
  Speaker 6: You're Cignetti. Show of the year.
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: Crown him. Let's go.
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: I like that comparison.
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: Yogi, you have a podcast, The Why Option, with Todd Blackledge,
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: and you did a fall camp tour.
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: I know you stopped by Indiana this fall. Any chance
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: that they can repeat?
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: I mean, they hadn't won a title ever, and now
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: two in 100 years would be amazing.
• 25:06
  Speaker 9: Yeah, well, I asked Todd that question. That was kind
• 25:08
  Speaker 9: of our first segment earlier this week or last week.
• 25:10
  Speaker 9: I said, hey, what's going to stop him? And his
• 25:13
  Speaker 9: line was great. He goes, definitely not themselves. And I
• 25:15
  Speaker 9: think that's Indiana. They're as well coached of an outfit
• 25:18
  Speaker 9: in any sport that we have seen. I think Kurt
• 25:21
  Speaker 9: Cignetti is the modern day Bill Walsh and studying Bill
• 25:23
  Speaker 9: Walsh all summer for a bunch of random reasons. But
• 25:27
  Speaker 9: he's got a conviction. to him and his approach. You
• 25:30
  Speaker 9: go to practice, you don't hear music. Not many places
• 25:32
  Speaker 9: in America that happens. You go to practice, you see ones-on-ones,
• 25:36
  Speaker 9: best versus best. You go to practice and you look
• 25:38
  Speaker 9: at the offensive line and you think after the run
• 25:40
  Speaker 9: you just referenced, it's four 50-year seniors and one third-year
• 25:45
  Speaker 9: player who started a bunch of games.
• 25:46
  Speaker 6: I mean, they're not going to take a drop.
• 25:48
  Speaker 9: There is not a reason that we should not be
• 25:50
  Speaker 9: talking about Indiana repeating. They're going to be in the mix.
• 25:53
  Speaker 9: They should be a playoff team again. It's not going
• 25:55
  Speaker 9: to be easy in the Big Ten, as you know.
• 25:57
  Speaker 9: But this team hasn't fallen off, and as Cignetti always says,
• 26:00
  Speaker 9: he's hunting for complacency. From what I saw last week,
• 26:03
  Speaker 9: no complacency in Bloomington right now.
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: All right, Yogi, let's stay in the same state. I
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: want to get to the Big Ten in a second,
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: but Notre Dame football, they have a friendly, comfortable schedule. Wisconsin,
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: Michigan State, but then Miami later in the season. CJ Carr,
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: everybody loves him. I want to ask you about him.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: But they lost a couple running backs last year, high-end
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: running backs. One thing I'm concerned about, other people are
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: concerned about, if Notre Dame has this breezy schedule, will
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: they be prepared for the playoffs?
• 26:29
  Speaker 9: Yeah, that's a fair question. I'll say this, having visited
• 26:32
  Speaker 9: them as well this offseason. For whatever it's worth, from
• 26:35
  Speaker 9: my eyes, them and Oregon were the two best teams
• 26:39
  Speaker 9: that I saw. And then right below that's Indiana, Ohio State.
• 26:42
  Speaker 9: You kind of make an argument for either one of those.
• 26:45
  Speaker 9: Not a lot separating, but enough for me to at
• 26:47
  Speaker 9: least make that statement. When I look at Notre Dame,
• 26:50
  Speaker 9: the defensive front, Tian Gray, is going to be an
• 26:52
  Speaker 9: absolute beast.
• 26:52
  Speaker 6: His offensive line is real.
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: C.J.
• 26:54
  Speaker 9: Carr, as you referenced, he's a real Heisman contender. I mean,
• 26:57
  Speaker 9: he's one of the best quarterbacks in America, much like
• 26:59
  Speaker 9: Dante Moore is. Receiving court, they're loaded there. And what's
• 27:02
  Speaker 9: fun is they got like four or five guys with
• 27:04
  Speaker 9: NFL last names, which is kind of fun, whether it's
• 27:06
  Speaker 9: Burris or Bettis or Fitzgerald, which is amazing with Larry
• 27:10
  Speaker 9: being inducted and Devin being on the team now. But
• 27:12
  Speaker 9: then to your point at running back, when I watched it,
• 27:14
  Speaker 9: you know, you talk to Marcus Freeman about the backs
• 27:16
  Speaker 9: in that situation.
• 27:17
  Speaker 6: He's like, look, I believe in development.
• 27:20
  Speaker 9: And I think when I look at Notre Dame in general,
• 27:22
  Speaker 9: they've got old school values, but they are a modern operation,
• 27:26
  Speaker 9: whether that's portal, NIL, facilities, of course, with what they
• 27:30
  Speaker 9: just unveiled. But point being, they also lean on like,
• 27:33
  Speaker 9: if we recruited you and we believe in you, we're
• 27:36
  Speaker 9: going to develop you and let you play. So I
• 27:38
  Speaker 9: think they're going to be just fine in that regard.
• 27:40
  Speaker 9: They are one of the best corners, not the best
• 27:41
  Speaker 9: corner in the country. So yeah, the schedule, it's a
• 27:44
  Speaker 9: good point, but That's the part of a head coach, right?
• 27:47
  Speaker 9: You have to create a standard where every Tuesday and Wednesday,
• 27:50
  Speaker 9: it's the most challenging thing you do all week. So
• 27:52
  Speaker 9: I expect them to meet that moment when Miami comes
• 27:55
  Speaker 9: to town.
• 27:55
  Speaker 6: It'll be a hell of a game.
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: All right, the Big Ten, NBC has the Big Ten
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: all year. Ohio State just loaded and loaded with talent.
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: If not Ohio State, who?
• 28:06
  Speaker 9: In the league, you either go in Indiana or you
• 28:08
  Speaker 9: go in Oregon, and I'd probably go Oregon. You're going
• 28:11
  Speaker 9: to see them play each other. That's the really interesting
• 28:14
  Speaker 9: part about this league here. The teams at the top,
• 28:16
  Speaker 9: for the most part, there's a round robin if you
• 28:18
  Speaker 9: want to take the preseason polls or just the teams
• 28:21
  Speaker 9: that we think are going to be the best teams
• 28:22
  Speaker 9: in this league.
• 28:23
  Speaker 6: I wonder what happens. Do they all beat each other up?
• 28:25
  Speaker 6: I think that's a fair possibility.
• 28:27
  Speaker 9: I mean, this is much more NFL-lite than the Big
• 28:29
  Speaker 9: Ten we grew up in. I mean, the talent is
• 28:31
  Speaker 9: so premium. And then the teams right below, Iowa, Minnesota,
• 28:36
  Speaker 9: Penn State, Michigan, USC. I mean, USC, they are built
• 28:40
  Speaker 9: for it, in my eyes, this year to take a
• 28:42
  Speaker 9: real run. Point being, it's just not going to be
• 28:45
  Speaker 9: an easy week. Somebody's going to get one of those
• 28:47
  Speaker 9: big ones throughout the season.
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: Yogi, we're like six minutes into this segment, and we
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: haven't talked about an SEC team. The SEC being down
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: is kind of this trending topic the past three years.
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: It doesn't feel, though, that there is a heavyweight at
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: LSU with Joe Burrow. There doesn't feel like a heavyweight
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: in the SEC. Georgia might be close, but is there
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: a heavyweight in the SEC?
• 29:08
  Speaker 6: They might say they're all heavyweights. They do, but do you? Yeah.
• 29:13
  Speaker 9: No, I don't think so, but I'm not on the
• 29:15
  Speaker 9: bandwagon that the SEC is down.
• 29:18
  Speaker 6: I don't believe that.
• 29:18
  Speaker 9: I think what Kalen DeBoer has done at Alabama, he's
• 29:21
  Speaker 9: the one every other day he's trending for, is he
• 29:23
  Speaker 9: going to make.
• 29:23
  Speaker 6: It through the season?
• 29:24
  Speaker 9: Folks, he's one of the best coaches in America. Crimson Tide,
• 29:27
  Speaker 9: you are so lucky to have him because he's going
• 29:29
  Speaker 9: to the playoff, winning double-digit games in an era that
• 29:34
  Speaker 9: Nick Saban had never had to live. Alabama had the
• 29:36
  Speaker 9: ability to recruit the best in the world, and it
• 29:38
  Speaker 9: was them versus everybody.
• 29:39
  Speaker 6: That is not.
• 29:40
  Speaker 9: the planet that we operate in right now. So, yeah,
• 29:42
  Speaker 9: I think Alabama's real. Keelan Russell, look out. He's an
• 29:45
  Speaker 9: absolute baller. He's the guy they just named quarterback. LSU
• 29:49
  Speaker 9: and Lane, I mean, it's the storyline of the entire offseason.
• 29:53
  Speaker 9: Can they hit the ground running? How quickly can he
• 29:55
  Speaker 9: pull so many new faces and get them together? They
• 29:57
  Speaker 9: obviously have a tough opener. And then you've got to
• 29:59
  Speaker 9: navigate what I like to call praise and blame. I
• 30:02
  Speaker 9: just believe praise and blame are all the same. But
• 30:05
  Speaker 9: it's not easy. It's a discipline to live like that.
• 30:07
  Speaker 9: So can Lane get his team to operate like that?
• 30:09
  Speaker 9: So I think there's a lot of heavyweights that play
• 30:12
  Speaker 9: very impressive football. And much like Missouri. Missouri and Iowa.
• 30:15
  Speaker 9: Missouri and Illinois. We saw what happened in the bowl games.
• 30:18
  Speaker 9: And that's why I think I go Big Ten over SEC.
• 30:20
  Speaker 9: Because we've seen it. We've seen too many data points
• 30:22
  Speaker 9: over the last couple seasons to... I get the NFL draft,
• 30:26
  Speaker 9: but you look at the games actually in play, and
• 30:28
  Speaker 9: Indiana-Alabama was really the tipping point where you're like, okay,
• 30:31
  Speaker 9: if Alabama's a heavyweight, Indiana might be the champ.
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: All right, before we get you out of here, and
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: not so fast, we don't break down the games quite
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: like you do. We like to look at things like uniforms.
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: Right now, to start the current season, 2026, who has
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: the best uniforms in college football? And I'm taking Pitt
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: off the board for two reasons. First, your uniforms are awesome,
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: and you went there.
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: What do you got?
• 30:52
  Speaker 6: Yeah, understand. Part of me goes classic. Michigan, Ohio State.
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: But you're better than that.
• 30:58
  Speaker 6: But I'm better than that.
• 30:59
  Speaker 9: I'm going to go, and it might even be lazy,
• 31:02
  Speaker 9: low-hanging fruit, but I think the creativity that comes out
• 31:04
  Speaker 9: of Eugene, and again, back to the substance from Dan Lanning,
• 31:07
  Speaker 9: I think it's next level because it's not just flash.
• 31:09
  Speaker 9: There's stories behind it, whether it's stomping out cancer and
• 31:13
  Speaker 9: the design around the jerseys in that regard and bringing
• 31:16
  Speaker 9: that individual in to tell a story to the team
• 31:18
  Speaker 9: to inspire them.
• 31:19
  Speaker 6: Every week, that to me is the must look. Like,
• 31:22
  Speaker 6: that's the team. I'm on Instagram. I'm like, all right,
• 31:23
  Speaker 6: what are they rolling with on Monday? So I'm going
• 31:25
  Speaker 6: Oregon Ducks.
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: Okay, I'm going to go with Tulane, the green wave,
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: the colors pop, the helmets pop. The football's pretty good.
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: I don't really care if the football's good, but the
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: uniforms are spotless.
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: I'm old school. Penn State.
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: Yogi, you grew up a Penn State fan. I know this,
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: like I did. How do you get better than this simple,
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: you know, blue and white?
• 31:43
  Speaker 6: I'm with you.
• 31:43
  Speaker 9: I mean, I could also argue the Cardinal and Gold
• 31:45
  Speaker 9: from the Trojans. Like, there's something iconic about that. As
• 31:48
  Speaker 9: a Pitt guy, picking Penn State as the uniforms after
• 31:50
  Speaker 9: you took Pitt off the board, that was going to
• 31:51
  Speaker 9: be a hard one for me, so I'm staying with
• 31:53
  Speaker 9: the Ducks.
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: Last thing on this show, every guest we ask a question,
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: it's called such thing as a dumb question. We invented
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: it here on Not So Fast. You played at Pitt.
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: You're a walk-on, and I don't know how much you
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: played or didn't play, but we don't know much about walk-ons.
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: Does a walk-on actually shoot up and stand on the sidelines,
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: or does somehow, maybe sometimes a walk-on has to sit
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: in the stands or not get a ticket to the game?
• 32:13
  Speaker 4: How does that work?
• 32:15
  Speaker 6: That's a great question. It depends on how you play.
• 32:19
  Speaker 6: I was lucky.
• 32:20
  Speaker 9: I played in my second game as a true freshman
• 32:22
  Speaker 9: and then started and got put on scholarship. So I
• 32:24
  Speaker 9: was kind of like that walk-on story that you hear about.
• 32:26
  Speaker 9: Some guys don't, and a lot of it goes to
• 32:28
  Speaker 9: roster limits. Some schools say, all right, only 105 are
• 32:30
  Speaker 9: allowed on the sideline.
• 32:32
  Speaker 6: And this was back in the day. We have 125
• 32:34
  Speaker 6: on the team. You're in Nebraska.
• 32:35
  Speaker 9: You've got to watch from the stands. Or you can
• 32:37
  Speaker 9: maybe stand on the sideline with a jersey on. But
• 32:42
  Speaker 9: right now, walk-ons, sadly, are suitably being phased out in
• 32:45
  Speaker 9: college football, which part of that's good because that means
• 32:47
  Speaker 9: everybody's getting a scholarship or some sort of support when
• 32:50
  Speaker 9: they're in college. But to me, walk-ons are a lifeblood
• 32:53
  Speaker 9: of the game, and I hope that they remain.
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: To put a bow on this, you're saying that was
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: not a dumb question.
• 32:58
  Speaker 6: No, not a dumb question.
• 32:59
  Speaker 9: That was a great question. And on behalf of all
• 33:02
  Speaker 9: the walk-ons, I love a good walk-on story. If there's
• 33:04
  Speaker 9: a game I'm calling and there's.
• 33:05
  Speaker 6: A former walk-on earned.
• 33:06
  Speaker 9: Scholarship— 99.9% of the time, that name is getting dropped,
• 33:11
  Speaker 9: even if it doesn't play.
• 33:12
  Speaker 6: Got to tell the story about this guy. Got to
• 33:14
  Speaker 6: tell him, man. Got to love him.
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: By the way, one of your teammates was inducted into
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame in Ken Larry Fitzgerald, of course.
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: I know you were there this summer. Can you tell
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: us the coolest Hall of Famer you met while you
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: were in Ken?
• 33:26
  Speaker 6: I'm going to say Larry Fitzgerald. I'll start with that.
• 33:29
  Speaker 9: Kurt Warner was kind of fun just because he was
• 33:31
  Speaker 9: his quarterback. But really what was so cool is you
• 33:33
  Speaker 9: look around the party and you're like, Oh, my. Everybody
• 33:37
  Speaker 9: there is a Hall of Famer. And everybody's so cool.
• 33:40
  Speaker 9: And I think I really walked out of there believing
• 33:42
  Speaker 9: this even stronger.
• 33:44
  Speaker 6: You guys.
• 33:44
  Speaker 9: You guys are icons in our profession. Dan, who you
• 33:47
  Speaker 9: work with, is an icon in the profession. You treat
• 33:49
  Speaker 9: everybody like you should be treated. And I think it's
• 33:52
  Speaker 9: the same way with Hall of Famers. Nobody was acting
• 33:53
  Speaker 9: too cool for school. Nobody was brushing by you. They
• 33:56
  Speaker 9: always knew you kind of wanted to say hello and
• 33:58
  Speaker 9: give a handshake. And Larry was the best at that
• 34:00
  Speaker 9: and might be the best of all time at that.
• 34:02
  Speaker 9: So to see him there and celebrate him with all
• 34:04
  Speaker 9: of our teammates– I was telling my wife, like it
• 34:07
  Speaker 9: was one of the coolest moments of my life to
• 34:10
  Speaker 9: be with guys that you created all these memories with.
• 34:12
  Speaker 9: I mean, they saw me get a scholarship. They were
• 34:14
  Speaker 9: with you in a loss on the road. They were
• 34:16
  Speaker 9: with you when you broke up with a girlfriend and
• 34:18
  Speaker 9: you graduate, had your first baby or whatever. And we
• 34:21
  Speaker 9: stayed up until 3.30 in the morning just talking shop
• 34:24
  Speaker 9: all night. Man, I need Andy Lee to get in
• 34:26
  Speaker 9: as a punter so I can go back to Canton.
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: Oh, that's awesome. Yogi, we're so excited for this season.
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: Starting Thursday, Eastern Illinois and Minnesota. I hope you get
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: to join us all season long. There's going to be
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: so much great Big Ten football.
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: Thanks, buddy.
• 34:39
  Speaker 6: I'm all in, fellas. And congratulations to both of you
• 34:42
  Speaker 6: on creating this new show.
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: All right. Thank you so much, Yogi. That's Yogi Roth.
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: That's our boy. On Big Ten.
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: There are so many good games on his schedule. And
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: he's got me so fired up, Paul.
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: That's incredible.
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: I'm ready to hit someone. I'm actually ready to lightly
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: hit someone. All right.
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: Coming up next, we have a new segment. Of course,
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: all our segments are new.
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: It's a new show called The Clip Joint, where we're
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: going to hear from Dan Patrick and many other famous
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: people from around the sports world.
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: That's next. Not so fast.
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: Why do we have to bring our first guest to
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: be someone that good looking?
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the hair was a problem.
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: It's a problem for us.
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: Definitely for us. Not him.
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: We dressed up too.
• 35:22
  Speaker 4: How would you use him? I would take it slow
• 35:25
  Speaker 4: at first.
• 35:27
  Speaker 8: One thing I learned in my days working for New
• 35:30
  Speaker 8: England in the short term I was there.
• 35:32
  Speaker 4: Is that we would have weeks, right?
• 35:34
  Speaker 8: And you remember this, like Gronkowski had like the, I
• 35:37
  Speaker 8: don't know, some metal thing in his wrist or whatever, right?
• 35:40
  Speaker 4: And one of his bionic injury moments.
• 35:44
  Speaker 8: And I remember he came back and I was like,
• 35:46
  Speaker 8: oh gosh, he practiced this week. He's going to play. Oh,
• 35:50
  Speaker 8: he's not going to play. All right, next week. All right,
• 35:52
  Speaker 8: practice all week. Look pretty good.
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: I guess he's going to. Oh, no, he's not going
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: to play.
• 35:56
  Speaker 8: Bill was great at making sure the guys were ready
• 35:59
  Speaker 8: and in game shape, not just throwing them out there
• 36:01
  Speaker 8: because he's available again. And hopefully they take the same approach.
• 36:06
  Speaker 8: I'm surprised it took him this long to get into
• 36:08
  Speaker 8: training camp because I would have thought he'd want to
• 36:10
  Speaker 8: get into some of the combative situations and just feel
• 36:14
  Speaker 8: and get his body into football shape that way. I
• 36:16
  Speaker 8: think first game, you know, 15, 25 snaps on big
• 36:21
  Speaker 8: passing downs. That's what I would envision. But who knows?
• 36:24
  Speaker 8: He is such a freak of nature. Maybe he's capable
• 36:26
  Speaker 8: of more.
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: Back on Not So Fast, Pabst and Perloff here. Already
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: getting a reaction on the new show. Just got a
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: text from the daughter. Dad, can I get some gas money?
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: I was during break talking to the backroom guys at
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: the EP show.
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: I asked one, how's the show going? He said, fine.
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: Fine.
• 36:42
  Speaker 4: Like, fine?
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: Like, she's fine?
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: You guys are fine.
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: Serviceable.
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: All right, let's get to it. Aaron Donald is now
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: a Ram. There's Chris Sims talking about it. Chris said,
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: You've got to be careful with how you use this guy,
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: especially early. It seems like that's the plan.
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: Absolutely.
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: And, Paul, I know you reached out to our good buddy, J.J. Watt, who,
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: you know, an aging defensive lineman. What did he say
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: about what Aaron Donald should do?
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: So, yeah, we texted J.J.
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: Watt a couple weeks ago on the Dan Patrick Show,
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: and he said the thing with Aaron Donald is you
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: can be in shape, and you can be in football shape,
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: and then you can be in season shape. And season
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: shape takes a little longer. And he goes, Aaron Donald's
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: probably getting in season shape right now, but you don't
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: want to mess with that. He goes, under 40 plays
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: a game is ideal. because you want him in the
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: back half of the season more so than the first half.
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: Of the season.
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, the thing about Aaron Donald, though, you
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: saw those Instagram clips where he was basically bench-pressing 500 pounds.
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: I don't know that he ever got out of shape, Paul.
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: I think he's going to be okay.
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: We know about getting out of shape. He was not
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: out of shape.
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I understand what Chris is saying, but I feel
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: like he's such an exception to every rule.
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: I think Aaron Donald is going to be okay pretty soon.
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: You know, and Chris Sims had some flamethrowing takes today,
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: a little too warm. We like warm takes, not hot takes,
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: but Chris went hot. Check this one out. Here's Chris
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: Sims talking about the Bills, who everyone thinks is a favorite.
• 37:55
  Speaker 8: To me, the Buffalo Bills have been overrated for quite
• 37:58
  Speaker 8: some time. You know, I do not think they should
• 38:01
  Speaker 8: have fired Sean McDermott. That would be the first thing.
• 38:04
  Speaker 8: And anybody that knows me or listens to me, I
• 38:07
  Speaker 8: always say it. I mean, they're in the window. It feels,
• 38:10
  Speaker 8: and you and I have had this conversation, very John Elway-ish,
• 38:13
  Speaker 8: where I go, wait, the team, you know, they're good,
• 38:16
  Speaker 8: but we're going to put them in the Super Bowl window?
• 38:18
  Speaker 8: Why is that? Oh, because the quarterback is the best
• 38:20
  Speaker 8: player in the NFL right now. And I just look
• 38:23
  Speaker 8: at it, hey, I like DJ Moore. Are they going
• 38:25
  Speaker 8: to get a new coach energy bump with a guy
• 38:28
  Speaker 8: that was already there and part of the regime as is?
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: I don't know about that.
• 38:32
  Speaker 8: And I still come away, and as compared to most
• 38:35
  Speaker 8: of the top teams in football, I go, if we
• 38:38
  Speaker 8: walk down the street in New York City, Dan, And
• 38:41
  Speaker 8: I asked, you know, Johnny on 52nd and 5th and go, hey,
• 38:43
  Speaker 8: who's the best player on the Bills defense? I think
• 38:46
  Speaker 8: you'd get a lot of, hold on, they got.
• 38:51
  Speaker 4: That Ed Oliver guy.
• 38:53
  Speaker 8: And so that, to me, says a lot right there.
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: Wow. You know, I love Chris Simms' hot take. He's
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: had some huge ones over the years. I remember he
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: hits on a lot of them. Lamar Jackson, he was
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: way ahead of everyone. Yep. I think he's right, Paul,
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: because I do that too.
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: Actually, when you pull back and you look at the Bills,
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: they have not gotten to the Super Bowl with Josh Allen.
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: That's a reality.
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: They had their chance last year where no Patrick Mahomes
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: did not do it. I have a tendency to overrate
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: them because I love Josh Allen. As a whole team,
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure they're there.
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought Chris was going to pop that top
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: button on that take. Here's the thing. They've got a
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: good running game, the Bills. They've lost in defense. over
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: the past three years, and something has to go. When
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: Josh Allen's making $ 275 million, something has to go. It
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: reminds me of when Russell Wilson got paid, and they
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: lost some defenders, and they got further from the Super Bowl.
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, you could say it was Sean McDermott
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: was the problem, but they brought in.
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: Joe Brady, who was the OC there. So I don't
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: know if that's a radical enough move I'm with Chris.
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: I'm going to fade them. We're going to do a
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: Super Bowl pick next week, I believe.
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: For sure.
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: I don't think I'm going to have Buffalo on there.
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: All right, let's turn back to college. Joel Klatt, the
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: great college football broadcaster, was on the DP show today,
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: and he explained why he's not concerned about the rather
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: low attendance at the USC game.
• 40:05
  Speaker 10: I don't think it's indicative of the wider support that
• 40:08
  Speaker 10: they get. I live in Orange County, south of Los Angeles,
• 40:11
  Speaker 10: and I can tell you everybody is talking about USC.
• 40:15
  Speaker 10: I think it's over 90 degrees. And in LA, when
• 40:18
  Speaker 10: it's over 90 degrees, it might as well be 150.
• 40:20
  Speaker 10: No one does anything. You should see when it rains
• 40:23
  Speaker 10: out here, Dan, like it's like a blizzard in the
• 40:26
  Speaker 10: East coast.
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: No one drives when it rains.
• 40:29
  Speaker 10: So you can call us on the West coast fair weather,
• 40:32
  Speaker 10: and that might be accurate, but I wasn't concerned necessarily
• 40:35
  Speaker 10: with the lack of fans in the stands in a week,
• 40:38
  Speaker 10: zero game when it's, you know, in the Coliseum, it
• 40:40
  Speaker 10: had to feel like it was 105 degrees.
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: Oh, my God. What an apologist. I'm sorry, Paul.
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: Listen, I'm no warrior, but I can handle 90 degrees
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: to watch my team.
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: With your skin tone?
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, listen, I would have been well sunscreened. I
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: would have had one of those big sun hats. But
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: come on, the SEC, I would say even a worse
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: game than that, you'd have 80,000 people.
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was pretty sad. I feel bad for the
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: fans who did sit there in the heat and got
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: scalded to watch football because they get lumped in with
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: the other L.A.
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: Fans.
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: Look, it won't matter if they win a couple ballgames
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: in a row, but yeah, it wasn't great. Look, it
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: was a great broadcast by NBC. NBC opens the broadcast
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: with this sweeping move, and they show a bunch of
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: stands that were empty. I was like, there it is.
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: And there's... You know, friends and family only.
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: Oh, there's a lot. Unless everyone's wearing a red shirt.
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: It was a red out. There's a lot of room there.
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it was a red out.
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll see.
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: When USC is really good at the end of the
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: year and everyone jumps on it, I'm going to be like,
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: where were you in August?
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: By the way, it's not a great sign for August football, Paul.
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: Oh, we love August football. All right, next thing. Here's
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: a team that's going in a pretty good direction. Charles
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: Huff is the new head coach at University of Memphis football.
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: Memphis football, good and bad. You never know how they're
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: going to be. They had a big win against UNLV,
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: a really good game for Memphis football. Charles Huff, the
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: new coach, talked about his philosophy.
• 41:54
  Speaker 11: In order for you to be successful in life, you've
• 41:55
  Speaker 11: got to be tough. And you've got to be able
• 41:58
  Speaker 11: to find the young men who believe in that, understand that.
• 42:00
  Speaker 11: We don't play music at practice. So if you want music,
• 42:04
  Speaker 11: you're not going to play for me. So we get
• 42:05
  Speaker 11: the kids who are worried about football and creating value
• 42:08
  Speaker 11: for themselves. We don't do ice cream trucks anymore. We
• 42:11
  Speaker 11: don't do fun things. You know what's fun? That locker
• 42:15
  Speaker 11: room right now is fun.
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: That's my guy. I'm calling him. Charles. That's my guy.
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: I'm calling it.
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: Not so fast. We love that. We're tough guys, men
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: of the people. But I love that. I think the
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: new Memphis t-shirt this year, no ice cream trucks. Blue, black.
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: There you go.
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: My reaction was, there are other programs that have ice
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: cream trucks? I want to play a school that has
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: an ice cream truck.
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, what is that, Pepperdine? I don't even think they
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: have a football team.
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: You know, at the end of practice, you start hearing
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: that song from the ice cream truck? Yeah, I understand
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: what you're saying, but other schools play music.
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: Because you get used to the music.
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, thumping music.
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: This is great in August.
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: If they start out 3-6, everyone's going to be like,
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: bring in the ice cream trucks.
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: Doesn't matter. He won the press conference. He won the
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: game against UNLV. All right, a little thing we do
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: on Not So Fast. We take input from you. Something
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: random you saw on the internet that makes us laugh
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: or makes us think.
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: Here it is.
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: This guy is a comedian named Daniel LaBelle. And he
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: and his friend... I've been watching this on a loop.
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: He and his friend run and play board games. I
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: could watch this all day.
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, we would be doing it, but much slower.
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: One of the reasons we're called Not So Fast is
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: because neither of us had this kind of speed.
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: Factual name.
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: But I love it when the games go completely sideways.
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: You're right, it's mesmerizing.
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: I like Twister. I think Twister is coming up here.
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: Running and playing. There it is, running and playing Twister.
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Are we going to recreate this? I mean, Operation,
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: that's impossible as is.
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: I pulled a hammy just watching that. But that was fun.
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: Daniel the Bella Comedian with the rando. Send in your
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: thoughts to us, Not So Fast, on Twitter. All right,
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: coming up next... PCA MVP. I'm down for that and
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: a lot, lot more. The feel good. Stick around. Not
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: So Fast. A lot more coming up.
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: I love those guys.
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: That's so good. Are they going to do a follow-up?
• 43:50
  Speaker 4: I hope so.
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: I could watch that for a living.
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know if there are any more games.
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: Hit the big ones.
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: Back on Not So Fast.
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: Bingo. There he is.
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: My boy, PCA. That's all he does is hit home
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: runs and run fast.
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: Okay, okay.
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: Now, Paul, if you don't know, it's a Chicago native.
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: Is this you forcing your hometown team into the show,
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: or do.
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: You really think he's going to secure the NL MVP?
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: You know, Pete and I don't need any help winning
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: the MVP. Shohei took a few months off pitching. It's
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: on a T for him. It's almost over, Johnny.
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, what's it mean, by the way, PCA does win
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: the MVP, which looks like an inevitable, that he won
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: during the Shohei era.
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: Is this like Karl Malone and Charles Barkley winning in
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: the NBA?
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: I think it's a compliment. If you're Pete Crow Armstrong
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: and you win an MVP during Otani, you're like, how'd
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: you beat Otani? It's like conquering something.
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think we know how he beat Otani.
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: Otani's a little bit down. I don't think he's 100% healthy,
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: and he's not really pitching.
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: All right, another issue this weekend, you have issues with
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: the Scrolls.
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: Oh, boy, don't get me started.
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: Give me a little bit on it.
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: Okay, so ESPN made a big announcement.
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: They are not going to do the score scroll at
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: the bottom of their game, and they had the North
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: Carolina TCU game. Not much was going on in Week 0,
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: but it was an adjustment for me because I wanted
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: to say to myself.
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: What's next?
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we're going to talk more about this tomorrow, but
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: it was weird not having a lot of stuff on
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: the screen. Nice, clean looks.
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: But I had to go to the phone for the scores.
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: I think we'll get used to it, but you know
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: I don't like change.
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: First show, not so fast, Pabst and Perloff. We already
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: have criticism coming in.
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: Shocker.
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: We're calling this constructive criticism. We want to hear from you. Twitter, Instagram, MySpace,
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: whatever it is. Here's a little constructive criticism, Perl. Here's
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: the first one.
• 45:27
  Speaker 4: Here we go.
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: From Michael, where would you want to see a college
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: football game played outside the U.S.? I think there's one
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: coming up in a couple weeks. I've always wanted to
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: see college football at Wembley Stadium, and it's coming up.
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: Ireland's had it for a while now with that Aer
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: Lingus game they've had every year. But I'm thinking Wembley.
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: You know, I'm going to go off the board here. Argentina, Paul.
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: Because college football reminds me a little bit of soccer.
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: Those crazy soccer crowds.
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: Can you imagine them for a Big Ten game or
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: an SEC game? I know it's actually a long flight.
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: I've been there for my honeymoon, not to brag. But
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: I went to a soccer game. It's the most electric
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: atmosphere I've ever seen. I'd love to see what they
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: did with the college game.
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: Good job.
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: Shout out to your wife.
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: Next constructive criticism.
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: Here we go.
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: Threat level midnight.
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: Love that.
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: With an afternoon to evening slate of college football games,
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: when is the best time to bring out the main course?
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: Now he's saying main course, not like a sit-down meal.
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: Like if the wings are the main course or ribs.
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: I would say 6.30. You got the 3 p.m. Eastern
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: slate of games. If they're done, you have that little
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: window between 6.30 and 7.30 before the night game. So
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: I'd say after 6.30, before 8 p.m.
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: No, I mean, it's a long day. It starts at noon. Yep.
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: And you could go to 2 a.m. And often we
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: do go to 2 a.m. I actually say no main meal.
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: Just nibble, nibble, nibble, nibble. And drink if you want.
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: Graze and graze.
• 46:40
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: Our next criticism.
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: Here we go.
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: From our boy, John Fanta. Fanta coming up. What is that? Tonight,
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: Fanta in 60 debuts tonight. NBC Sports Now. Fanta says,
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: the NFL team you think everybody is underestimating this season.
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: Let's tease that for tomorrow.
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: Let's see. We've got to think about that, John.
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: John, by the way, did an incredible job this weekend
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: hosting the studio show.
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: Brought so much energy. I loved it. So we've got
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: to do justice to that question. We can't just throw
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: something out.
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: That was a nice, light amount of criticism. All right,
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: it's time for leftovers. Everyone's got room for leftovers. They're
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: in the fridge. Not past three days, though. Not past
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: three days of leftovers. Let's check out. Oh, you love this, Pearl.
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: The Heisman Campaign for Ole Miss quarterback Trinidadan Chambliss and
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: Kiwan Lacy, the running back. at the Sphere in Vegas.
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: I love this.
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: You know, I'm a huge fan of when Heisman candidates
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: go up in Times Square in New York, but the
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: Sphere is so much bigger.
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: You can see it from anywhere in the city. It's incredible.
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: It's on the outside of the sphere. And this is
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: going to get those guys so much hype. Now, usually
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: the hype guys don't usually work out. And they obviously,
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: they have a major problem.
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: It's Lane Kiffin's down in Louisiana.
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: So I don't know if their offense is going to
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: be the same.
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: But I like the preseason approach.
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: This is a throwback to almost maybe 20, 20 plus
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: years ago when Joey Harrington of Oregon was in Times
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: Square on the side of Madison Square Garden. And that
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: was a gutsy play by Oregon. He got invited to,
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: but did not win the Heisman.
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: We got Paps and Perloff on the sphere. Absolutely not.
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: They just responded and said, absolutely not. All right, next thing. Oh,
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: this is not so good. Djokovic, not feeling good during
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: the game.
• 48:08
  Speaker 3: U.S.
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: Open, he was struggling. He finished out. You got to
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: give him credit as being a warrior. But that's one
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: of those guys you never know when it could be
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: the last call.
• 48:15
  Speaker 3: So I tuned in for this game. Not a lot
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: of sports going on. He was playing a guy who
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: had no success at all in hard.
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: Court and still lost. The end is nigh, Paul. I'm
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: a fan of Novak Djokovic.
• 48:25
  Speaker 3: I like the way he plays. I don't ever see
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: him getting back to the championship level. And, you know,
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: Venus Williams played last night, too.
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: It kind of stinks, but I think it's time to
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: move on in tennis past that golden era.
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: You know, Sampras gone, Dahl gone, people gone. We need
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: Federer gone. You need some new blood. You need some
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: new people.
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw a promo last night. It was Venus
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: and Joker. That's what you got right now?
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: You know, before we go, a lot of people were
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: asking where you could see our show. NBC Sports Now,
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: NBC Sports Network, Peacock. Sirius XM, NBC Radio. We'll come
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: to your house.
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: We'll do it directly. I actually might have to do
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: that for my parents to figure it out. They are watching.
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: To feel good. Every day on this show, we leave
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: you feeling good. Kittle, McCaffrey, and the other 49ers go
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: to Kyle Shanahan's kids' football game. There they are in
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: lawn chairs.
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: Can you imagine being in a high school game and
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: Christian McCaffrey sits next to you? I love the spirit.
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: I love that George Kittle looks healthy. This actually bodes well.
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: I'm upping my win total. on SF by one game.
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: That is all for us. Great job today, Perla. Thanks,
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: DP and everyone at the Dan Patrick Show for making
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: this all happen. Tune in to the DP Show every
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: morning right here, 9 a.m.
• 49:29
  Speaker 8: Eastern.
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: And then, not so fast, every day right after that,
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: NBC Sports Now. That's it. We're done. Talk to you tomorrow.