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Republicans Want to Take Away Your Healthcare to Fund Tax Breaks for Billionaires · MOMocrats

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SPEAKER_00: Donnie Two Dolls says ordinary Americans need to suck it up and buy fewer things.
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SPEAKER_00: In the meantime, he thinks he should get to travel the world in a$400 million flying palace from Qatar.
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SPEAKER_00: Welcome to Mama Kratts Mama Chat.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm Donna Schwartz Mills, along with Aliza Worthington and Cara Lee of crooksandliars.com.
0:34
SPEAKER_00: And it's been another week.
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SPEAKER_00: He didn't buy the plane from Qatar.
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SPEAKER_00: No, it's a free put.
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SPEAKER_00: It's a gift.
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SPEAKER_00: It's a gift.
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SPEAKER_00: It's just a present.
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SPEAKER_00: It's not like he had to pay for it.
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SPEAKER_00: It's a gift that taxpayers will accept, but then we will have to pay the taxes to upgrade it to the kind of security that is necessary for an American president to fly in.
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SPEAKER_00: Do we really need to do that then?
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SPEAKER_00: You want to at least make sure that it's not full of all kinds of surveillance from the Qataris, like that gift that was given to the U.S.
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SPEAKER_00: Embassy in Moscow that turned out to be a bug that they didn't find out until eight years later.
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SPEAKER_00: Funders of Hamas.
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SPEAKER_00: I mean, you might want to make sure that they're not spying on you.
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SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
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SPEAKER_00: Maybe, maybe.
1:41
SPEAKER_00: But then, you know, the most glorious thing about it is that it's only temporary.
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SPEAKER_00: Because once he is out of office, it goes to his library, where it will presumably just sit there.
1:56
SPEAKER_00: Oh, no.
1:56
SPEAKER_00: No, it's not going to just sit there.
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SPEAKER_00: Come on now.
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SPEAKER_00: I know that, and you know that.
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SPEAKER_00: But I mean, it's a gift to his library.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, where he's presumably going to fly around on it for the rest of his life, wherever he goes.
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SPEAKER_00: Sure.
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SPEAKER_00: It's ridiculous.
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SPEAKER_00: I mean, it's just...
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SPEAKER_00: Like he's going to have a library.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: Like he's going to have a library.
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SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
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SPEAKER_00: Well, you know, like all those crypto bribes are probably going to the library.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: You know, so that they can take care of the library in the, you know, in the days to come.
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SPEAKER_00: Library.
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SPEAKER_00: is the new inauguration fund right exactly all of that so the thing i mean and the thing is like some of the media i just want to slap around they're like well it's not a bribe because there's no quid pro quo Like the founders actually put the emoluments clause in because that took care of whether there was a quid pro quo or not.
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SPEAKER_00: It's like, this is not okay for anybody, no matter what.
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SPEAKER_00: That's all, it's done.
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SPEAKER_00: And isn't it something that it took us until 2016 before we had to deal with the emoluments clause.
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SPEAKER_00: I mean, did either of you ever hear of the emoluments clause in the Constitution until 2016?
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SPEAKER_00: Never.
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SPEAKER_00: And the reasons in 2016 were so quaint, you know, that they might stay at his hotel.
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SPEAKER_00: That he might make a little money he didn't really fully hand over, you know, to divest himself of.
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SPEAKER_00: You know, the shares of his companies and stuff like that.
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SPEAKER_00: You know, that's what we were all up in arms about back then.
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SPEAKER_00: I know.
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SPEAKER_00: Plains from from from Qatar.
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SPEAKER_00: And, you know, and come on, we all know it was an exchange for, you know, deals he made for, you know.
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SPEAKER_00: Trump Tower, Qatar.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: And Eden Alexander, you know, that was in there.
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SPEAKER_00: Mm
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SPEAKER_01: hmm.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: The best part of this, though, is watching people like Laura Loomer and Ben Shapiro and all those people.
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SPEAKER_00: Oh, that's too far.
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SPEAKER_00: That's a bridge too far for them.
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SPEAKER_00: I mean, it's not just us lighting our hair in a fire.
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SPEAKER_00: Everybody else is, too, on their side.
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SPEAKER_00: Well, that's fun to watch.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: Well, it's like they've, like, that's, I mean, that's the...
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SPEAKER_00: part that makes it, maybe it's because there's no denying that Trump is making, is getting in bed with brown terrorists when he does
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SPEAKER_01: this.
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SPEAKER_00: And that's the thing that people like Ben Shapiro and Laura Loomer cannot countenance.
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SPEAKER_00: They can't fathom that.
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SPEAKER_00: They can't let that go.
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SPEAKER_00: I think they're pretty exercised about him sucking up to the Saudi princesses or princes the last couple of days too.
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SPEAKER_00: Oh yes.
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SPEAKER_00: Well, but he's always done, but he's always been okay with the Saudis.
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SPEAKER_00: I mean, he, they, they were fine.
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SPEAKER_00: You know, they didn't say anything when, when, you know, MBS made a$2 billion deal with Jared.
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SPEAKER_00: Like was Ben Shapiro up in arms about it then, you know, whatever, four years ago.
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SPEAKER_00: I don't remember hearing him, you know, in hysterics about it or Laura Loomer, you know, and he's never come out to say any, he'd never said anything about Jamal Khashoggi.
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SPEAKER_00: You know, I don't remember Laura Loomer or Ben Shapiro giving a, you know, giving a shit about that.
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SPEAKER_00: But suddenly now it is just, it is impossible to ignore.
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SPEAKER_00: that Trump is shaking hands with and negotiating with and receiving gifts from Hamas.
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SPEAKER_00: Hamas billionaires, the people who run, the leaders of Hamas.
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SPEAKER_00: And that is just so, you know, there's no running away from that.
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SPEAKER_00: i guess for whatever reason maybe it's their um their you know their jewish heritage um that's making it just completely uh just just something they can't stand for for whatever reason i don't know i don't know either but um they sure didn't give any they didn't care about jamal kashogi they didn't say anything you know those two didn't care about another brown arab guy getting his his limbs sawed off while he was alive.
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SPEAKER_00: They didn't care.
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SPEAKER_00: No.
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SPEAKER_00: And Trump yesterday was just disgusting with him, right?
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SPEAKER_00: The big, big, handsome man.
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SPEAKER_00: It's not just disgusting.
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SPEAKER_00: It's embarrassing.
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SPEAKER_00: It's like, it is embarrassing.
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SPEAKER_00: Only kinds of compliments.
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SPEAKER_00: He can think of his he's so limited in his vocabulary.
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SPEAKER_00: And in his, I don't know, in his like, in his- Just thinking, he's a very narrow man.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: Narrow of mind, not narrow of body.
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SPEAKER_00: It's all he can think about.
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SPEAKER_00: It's all he can think of.
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SPEAKER_00: Like, what might they want to hear?
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SPEAKER_00: Or what might I admire?
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SPEAKER_00: Well, they're handsome.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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UNKNOWN: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: They're handsome and rich.
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SPEAKER_00: He doesn't need anything else.
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SPEAKER_00: That's all.
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SPEAKER_00: And they like me.
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SPEAKER_00: They gave me a plane.
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SPEAKER_00: They want to give me a plane.
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SPEAKER_00: Saudis don't, but the Qataris do.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but that's basically the deal.
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SPEAKER_00: I will say that the only good thing about the Qatari plane is that we finally found an issue that would make Chuck Schumer put a hold on all the DOJ nominees.
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SPEAKER_00: Right.
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SPEAKER_00: It took that to make that happen.
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SPEAKER_00: I don't understand why it took that, something so obvious.
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SPEAKER_00: And by the way, it's not just the plane, right?
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SPEAKER_00: Today, news broke that as it does, that a small Chinese company just secured funding to put$300 million into Trump meme coins.
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SPEAKER_00: This small Chinese company happens to own TikTok, but yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: Oh, so I guess TikTok's not going away again.
9:10
SPEAKER_00: We knew that.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we did.
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SPEAKER_00: But it's not going away and Trump gets$300 million in meme coins because...
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SPEAKER_00: That's how they're paying them off with the crypto.
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SPEAKER_00: So Democrats, I just need to say this and then we can move on to the budget, which is the more important thing.
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SPEAKER_00: But Democrats like Ruben Gallego, who say things like, well, we need to pass something with regard to crypto because everybody else has something, as if it doesn't really matter what we do as long as we do something, right?
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SPEAKER_00: And the bill is just nothing but a gift to the crypto companies.
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SPEAKER_00: I mean, Gallego goes and has lunch with Marc Andreessen and the next thing you know, he's like, oh, let's give them more of what want you know not less i don't know who that is but i guess that's a crypto mark andreason is a venture capitalist in silicon valley who's in the peter thiel right group oh oh okay okay So, yeah.
10:17
SPEAKER_00: I remember 30 years ago thinking he was one of the good guys.
10:20
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, me too.
10:21
SPEAKER_00: He was like the founder of Netscape.
10:23
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, Netscape.
10:24
SPEAKER_00: That's what it was.
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SPEAKER_00: Netscape.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and everything.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, no, not anymore.
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SPEAKER_00: He's in with Peter Thiel.
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SPEAKER_00: So he's Ruben Gallego, who I supported because he wasn't Kirsten Sinema, is behaving like Kirsten Sinema.
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SPEAKER_00: And it's driving me crazy.
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SPEAKER_00: It's like, is every Arizona...
10:44
SPEAKER_00: What is it with Arizona?
10:47
SPEAKER_00: Huh?
10:47
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
10:47
SPEAKER_00: I said, what is it with Arizona?
10:49
SPEAKER_00: The water or the lack thereof.
10:51
SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
10:52
SPEAKER_00: I don't know what to say.
10:53
SPEAKER_00: My daughter went to the Grand Canyon with some friends last week and she kept sending me photos.
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SPEAKER_00: of these little places they would stop along route 66.
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SPEAKER_00: it was like this is trump country and like you know crazy mega stuff all over the place all over the place we knew that would just you know she goes they're crazy over there what is it what is with it arizona republicans are the craziest you know they put a lot so like the republicans and the libertarians like coke and those guys they put a lot of money into arizona into the cold water institute and all that so you know that's probably part of it but yeah they're getting a bang for their buck i mean yeah it's a long-standing tradition in arizona but but gallego's like i'm not like her i'm not going to do that he wasn't like her in the house Right.
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SPEAKER_00: And then suddenly it gets to the Senate and it's a whole different ballgame.
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SPEAKER_00: It's just crazy.
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SPEAKER_00: So anyway, but Elizabeth Warren has been leading the charge against this crypto bill and she's won it at least for another week.
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SPEAKER_00: We're not going to be dealing with this for another week.
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SPEAKER_00: But in the meantime, there's the budget, the quote unquote, big, beautiful bill, which is really the big, ugly ass bill.
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SPEAKER_00: And here is the thing, and I think this makes a lot of sense.
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SPEAKER_00: Robert Hubble in his newsletter yesterday said that Democrats really only have to say three things and just say it over and over and over again.
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SPEAKER_00: The Republicans want to cut$715 billion from Medicaid and take away health coverage from 8 million Americans.
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SPEAKER_00: And I understand that there have been other estimates that it could be as much as 13 million Americans or more.
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SPEAKER_00: And that's the CBO estimate.
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SPEAKER_00: Okay.
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SPEAKER_00: And then all of that is in order to pay for billionaire tax cuts that will cost$5 trillion.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: $5 trillion.
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SPEAKER_00: trillion dollars these guys don't have enough money already you know what your kids only need two pencils five pencils come on five pencils don't exaggerate donna yes they don't take liberals seriously oh shoot Taco's over here looking at you wide-eyed.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm just saying, see?
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SPEAKER_00: Taco.
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SPEAKER_00: I can't see your shirt.
13:41
SPEAKER_00: Taco the Wonder Dog.
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SPEAKER_00: Oh, Taco.
13:44
SPEAKER_00: Hi, Taco.
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SPEAKER_00: For those who are listening, Carolee has her daughter's dog's image on her t-shirt, and it's really cute.
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SPEAKER_00: So cute.
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SPEAKER_00: Coming out of the pocket.
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SPEAKER_00: Coming out of the pocket.
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SPEAKER_00: That is so cute.
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SPEAKER_00: So, so anyway, yes, now, now that I've, now that I've distracted all of us from the point, we need a little mind cleanse, a doggy cleanse.
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SPEAKER_00: So, so yesterday, I just want to stress how much I hate Mike Johnson for starters.
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SPEAKER_00: Yesterday, Mr.
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SPEAKER_00: I don't even know what to call him.
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SPEAKER_00: He said this.
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SPEAKER_00: He said, Medicaid is intended, remember, as a safety net for young pregnant mothers and the elderly and the disabled and vulnerable populations, not for young able-bodied men without dependents.
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SPEAKER_00: Those are the kinds of people we're taking off the program.
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SPEAKER_00: Now, I just want to say that I have a young able-bodied young who's a son, who up until this year was barely over the limit for Medicaid.
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SPEAKER_00: Like he was paying almost nothing for his premiums because the subsidies were taking care of most of it.
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SPEAKER_00: Maybe if he'd made$500 less from his three part-time jobs that didn't have health insurance, he would have been on Medicaid, right?
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SPEAKER_00: And so please tell me more about why young people able-bodied men don't need healthcare.
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SPEAKER_00: I would like to point out that in the same vein, in the same vein, that a young able-bodied man can get hit by a car and suddenly have huge hospital bills.
15:44
SPEAKER_00: You don't know.
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SPEAKER_00: A young able-bodied man can have diabetes.
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SPEAKER_00: Yes.
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SPEAKER_00: Yes.
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SPEAKER_00: Like my son does.
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SPEAKER_00: Or a young, able-bodied man can have depression and need medication.
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SPEAKER_00: Or a young, able-bodied man can have...
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SPEAKER_00: God damn it.
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SPEAKER_00: Fucking everybody needs health insurance.
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SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
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SPEAKER_00: Bing, bing, bing, bing, bing.
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SPEAKER_00: Health insurance for everybody.
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SPEAKER_00: Everybody.
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SPEAKER_00: Everybody needs it.
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SPEAKER_00: It is a right, not a privilege.
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SPEAKER_00: I mean, why should young able-bodied men die?
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SPEAKER_00: That's right.
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SPEAKER_00: Because we don't have healthcare.
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SPEAKER_00: This whole thing just, I mean, when he said that, I just literally started throwing things.
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SPEAKER_00: I literally did.
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SPEAKER_00: I was like, and then I started, you know, ranting on, blue sky and somebody got in my face and said, you know, most young men don't have three jobs.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm like, you know what?
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SPEAKER_00: The only reason you mentioned the three jobs is that they seem to think that there have to be work requirements to get your health care that you need, you know?
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SPEAKER_00: And there is that.
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SPEAKER_00: That's the thing.
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SPEAKER_00: Three jobs and you still don't have the health care.
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SPEAKER_00: Right.
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SPEAKER_00: And the thing is, is the way this bill is structured, if you're one of those young, able-bodied young men and you're not eligible for Medicaid, you're also not eligible to buy insurance on the exchange and get subsidies.
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SPEAKER_00: So you're just screwed.
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SPEAKER_00: You can't have health care either way.
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SPEAKER_00: And he said, those are the kinds of people we're taking off the program.
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SPEAKER_00: So then explain to me how a young, able-bodied man who has three part-time jobs pays for health care then.
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SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
17:41
SPEAKER_00: How do they?
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SPEAKER_00: I mean, I'm asking quite literally, what is the mechanism by which they would do it?
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SPEAKER_00: Do they as an individual approach Care First, Blue Cross, Blue Shield, and say, can I please, you know, one health care, please?
18:01
SPEAKER_00: And then Blue Cross, Blue Shield said, sure, you can have a health care.
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SPEAKER_00: It's$550 a month.
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SPEAKER_00: Write a check.
18:12
SPEAKER_00: Right.
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SPEAKER_00: And then for that, you also have a deductible of$3,000 a year before we'll start helping pay for your stuff.
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SPEAKER_00: Right.
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SPEAKER_00: And so is that how that is that is that how that's supposed to work?
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SPEAKER_00: Shouldn't be.
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SPEAKER_00: Pretty much.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm like genuinely asking what I'm as at a loss as you are.
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SPEAKER_00: I mean, I don't have answers.
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SPEAKER_00: I just know from what I've read that the way this bill reads is that they're going to cut these people out of Medicaid.
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SPEAKER_00: And then in other situations where they are on Medicaid, they're going to increase the amount that they got to come out of pocket is if they have that money because they are poor and that's why they are on Medicaid.
18:59
SPEAKER_00: I would like to point out to anyone who may have been dropping in on us from the Manosphere, that we are actually advocating for you guys.
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UNKNOWN: Yeah, great.
19:11
SPEAKER_00: Do you think people in the Manosphere listen to us?
19:15
SPEAKER_00: Not since I made the links private.
19:20
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I'm sure we used to get a lot of that.
19:23
SPEAKER_00: The comments that we used to get were not great.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: Just like me, as they commented, so...
19:31
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I mean, we love our men.
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SPEAKER_00: We do.
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SPEAKER_00: I think that my favorite response to my retort about to this was somebody saying, Mike just likes thinking about young, able-bodied men, especially.
19:52
SPEAKER_00: Well, somebody go tell his son about that because aren't they supposed to be reporting to one another when they haven't?
19:59
SPEAKER_00: I think so.
20:00
SPEAKER_00: I think so.
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SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
20:03
SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
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SPEAKER_00: I mean, now that he's in Washington, you know, I don't know.
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SPEAKER_00: He could be taking the wide stance.
20:09
SPEAKER_00: We just don't know.
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SPEAKER_00: Wait, you're saying Mike's son is in Washington?
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SPEAKER_00: No, Mike is.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: So, but I mean, the whole, what they're doing with this budget in order to give people like Elon Musk more money than they already have is if they don't have enough already.
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SPEAKER_00: And please spare me the, oh, if they don't play taxes, they'll have more money to put back into their businesses and all that.
20:39
SPEAKER_00: That's bullshit too.
20:40
SPEAKER_00: Come on.
20:41
SPEAKER_00: We all know that.
20:42
SPEAKER_00: And I think the trickle down theory works.
20:46
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, right.
20:47
SPEAKER_00: No, it does not.
20:49
SPEAKER_00: We have 40 years of proof that it does not work.
20:53
SPEAKER_00: It does not work.
20:54
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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UNKNOWN: Yeah.
20:55
SPEAKER_00: And so, and as far as the disparity, the disparity between the 8 million and the 11, I think it's up to, I think it was 13 million.
21:03
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, 13.
21:05
SPEAKER_00: CDO was the 13 million because it's not- Wait, I'm sorry, fill me in.
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SPEAKER_00: What are you talking about now?
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SPEAKER_00: Well, some of our erstwhile- mainstream beltway reporters were a little a little pissed because they said you know oh no there's only going to be you know eight million people of the medicaid eight million only eight million people what the thing is is that there's more than just medicaid cuts so things like they boosted the subsidies under biden so that you know, people could afford their insurance better under the Affordable Care Act.
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SPEAKER_00: So they want to take that away.
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SPEAKER_00: That'll mean that people drop their insurance and they're not covered.
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SPEAKER_00: And the CBO estimates total with all the changes that it would be 13 million people.
21:54
SPEAKER_00: The CBO's estimate was factoring in these other issues.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
22:00
SPEAKER_00: But see, Republicans don't care about that.
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SPEAKER_00: They don't care that people don't have insurance, don't have any access to health care, don't have any way to get it, especially if they're working three part time jobs and don't have any health insurance.
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SPEAKER_00: You know, I mean, then.
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SPEAKER_00: No, then it's their fault for not having the right kind of job.
22:17
SPEAKER_00: Right.
22:18
SPEAKER_00: But then.
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SPEAKER_00: Into a family that got you into the right college and a job on Wall Street.
22:27
SPEAKER_00: Right.
22:28
SPEAKER_00: And then they want to deport the people that are doing things like the jobs that white people don't want to do.
22:34
SPEAKER_00: But even if those white people went and did those jobs, they still wouldn't have enough money, assuming they could even do them.
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SPEAKER_00: Right.
22:41
SPEAKER_00: They still wouldn't have enough money to buy health insurance.
22:43
SPEAKER_00: Right.
22:44
SPEAKER_00: And those jobs certainly don't provide health insurance.
22:47
SPEAKER_00: But I thought they were going to build new factories and we were all going to be on the assembly line.
22:51
SPEAKER_00: So, you know, with regard to that, Nissan just announced that they're scaling back their car production in the United States and laying off like 34% of the workforce in the United States.
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SPEAKER_00: Oh my goodness.
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SPEAKER_00: So, you know, tell me more about how they're going to have more factories in the United States.
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SPEAKER_00: I mean, all of this is just gaslighting.
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SPEAKER_00: That's all it is.
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SPEAKER_00: What they want to do is break government.
23:17
SPEAKER_00: They want to give the billionaires all the money and the rest of us can go fuck off.
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SPEAKER_00: They don't care what happens to us.
23:24
SPEAKER_00: And they want to take all of the government's assets and turn them into their own assets.
23:29
SPEAKER_00: Right.
23:31
SPEAKER_00: Privatize everything.
23:33
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
23:34
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
23:35
SPEAKER_00: And all of us going to a Christian school, all of our kids.
23:39
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, well, don't get me started.
23:44
SPEAKER_00: I can rant about that, righteously rant about that.
23:48
SPEAKER_00: And Jewish friends will be right along with you.
23:55
SPEAKER_00: I mean, there's nothing.
23:57
SPEAKER_00: I sent my kid to a Christian school for a couple of years, and it was probably the worst two years of his whole academic life.
24:05
SPEAKER_00: He seriously was, it was like, he, this was my oldest one.
24:10
SPEAKER_00: And, you know, he, they did things to him.
24:13
SPEAKER_00: Like, uh, he, he turned in a paper that he'd worked really hard in on, uh, on spiral notebook paper and they gave him an F because it wasn't on a regular binder paper.
24:25
SPEAKER_00: You know, it had, it had been torn out of a spiral notebook.
24:28
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
24:30
SPEAKER_00: Just like that.
24:31
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
24:33
SPEAKER_00: That's educationally sound.
24:35
SPEAKER_00: Right.
24:37
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I mean, I can tell story after story about how awful it was and how grateful I was to move to where we are now and be able to put them in public school.
24:50
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
24:51
SPEAKER_00: And my other two kids went through public school from the beginning to the end, and they're just fine.
24:59
SPEAKER_00: So, uh, you know, please don't talk to me about, you know, Christian schools and Christian values, especially when these days, what Christian values are.
25:06
SPEAKER_00: And I speak as somebody who has been, you know, in church most of my life.
25:12
SPEAKER_00: Right.
25:12
SPEAKER_00: So, um, what Christian values are today are basically hating LGBTQ people.
25:20
SPEAKER_00: And, um, you know, and, and the new thing now is to call that an ideology.
25:28
SPEAKER_00: Just so you know.
25:29
SPEAKER_00: Oh, LGBTQ?
25:31
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
25:32
SPEAKER_00: It's an ideology.
25:34
SPEAKER_00: It's an ideology.
25:35
SPEAKER_00: It's not an identity.
25:37
SPEAKER_00: It's not who somebody actually is.
25:41
SPEAKER_00: Right.
25:42
SPEAKER_00: I thought that was an old thing.
25:44
SPEAKER_00: Well, it's everything old is new again.
25:48
SPEAKER_00: It was a lifestyle.
25:53
SPEAKER_00: It wasn't an identity.
25:54
SPEAKER_00: It used to be a lifestyle.
25:55
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
25:56
SPEAKER_00: Now it's an ideology, which suggests that it can be beaten out of people or something.
26:03
SPEAKER_00: And they're actually doing seminars, by the way, on this in churches to try to...
26:10
SPEAKER_00: They're worried that public schools are indoctrinating children into being LGBTQ.
26:17
SPEAKER_00: That's old.
26:17
SPEAKER_00: That's old shit.
26:19
SPEAKER_00: It is old shit, but here's the thing.
26:21
SPEAKER_00: When I was in school, the people that I went to school with, there were some that were gay, right?
26:27
SPEAKER_00: And they were in the closet.
26:28
SPEAKER_00: And guess what happened to them in the 80s?
26:32
SPEAKER_00: I don't even, are they still with us?
26:34
SPEAKER_00: HIV AIDS happened to them.
26:36
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
26:37
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I lost a lot of- That's what happened to them because they couldn't come out.
26:40
SPEAKER_00: They couldn't be who they were, right?
26:42
SPEAKER_00: And it just makes me- Well, HIV AIDS happened to a lot of people who were out of the closet too in the 80s.
26:51
SPEAKER_00: No, it did.
26:51
SPEAKER_00: But yeah, being in the closet, I was afraid you were going to say suicide because of having to be in the closet.
26:58
SPEAKER_00: I was a theater kid.
27:01
SPEAKER_00: yeah in high school and you know we were all the misfits by the time i was 40 i'd already lost five of my friends from high school two from suicide one from aids one from drugs and the fifth was from actually six one was a car accident one was canceled so and and people are always shocked to hear that i'd lost so many Good high school.
27:30
SPEAKER_00: At that young age, yeah.
27:31
SPEAKER_00: At that young age.
27:32
SPEAKER_00: And, you know.
27:33
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you went to high school in the 70s and they were adults in the 80s and that's, you know, and nobody talked about it.
27:42
SPEAKER_00: And this is why I don't go to my reunions.
27:44
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
27:46
SPEAKER_00: Guys, I'm like on the committee.
27:48
SPEAKER_00: That's what I liked or did.
27:51
SPEAKER_00: But anyway, I just want to say that because it makes me so angry that they call it an ideology.
28:00
SPEAKER_00: It's not.
28:01
SPEAKER_00: Do you think that these people that back in the day, in my day, right, who were in the closet wanted to be there?
28:10
SPEAKER_00: I mean, do you think that?
28:13
SPEAKER_00: I don't think that.
28:15
SPEAKER_00: I don't think they wanted to be there.
28:16
SPEAKER_00: I think they wanted to be, you know, isn't it much nicer just to be yourself and be accepted for who you are be accepted and loved for every part of you yeah i mean i don't think anybody i don't think anybody wanted to be in the closet but i also think that a lot of people understood that it was a lot safer in the closet than it was and they're trying to make that, you know.
28:46
SPEAKER_00: And they're trying to bring those days back.
28:48
SPEAKER_00: They're trying to make people feel ashamed of who they are.
28:51
SPEAKER_00: And that was too much for me.
28:54
SPEAKER_00: That was a bridge too far.
28:55
SPEAKER_00: I just, yeah.
28:58
SPEAKER_00: Well, I mean, everything about this movement, everything about the Republicans, everything about this government is regressive.
29:06
SPEAKER_00: Absolutely everything.
29:08
SPEAKER_00: They want people poor, they want people dumb, and they want people afraid.
29:14
SPEAKER_00: And powerless.
29:17
SPEAKER_00: And powerless.
29:18
SPEAKER_00: And the thing is, people, we are not powerless.
29:21
SPEAKER_00: Right.
29:21
SPEAKER_00: We do have our...
29:23
SPEAKER_00: And we're showing that, too.
29:24
SPEAKER_00: And they don't like it.
29:26
SPEAKER_00: No, they don't.
29:27
SPEAKER_00: They do not like it.
29:28
SPEAKER_00: Which is what makes it so much fun.
29:30
SPEAKER_00: Right.
29:31
SPEAKER_00: But it's also what makes it sustainable for us to keep going.
29:38
SPEAKER_00: And we have to keep going.
29:40
SPEAKER_00: Right.
29:41
SPEAKER_00: with it because it is, you know, seeing them so frazzled about the gains that we're making, the impact that we're having is not, it's not nothing.
30:03
SPEAKER_00: I mean, have you heard from Elon lately?
30:06
SPEAKER_00: Has anybody seen Elon lately?
30:08
SPEAKER_00: I don't think so.
30:09
SPEAKER_00: Well, he's over in Saudi Arabia.
30:12
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, he's over there.
30:15
SPEAKER_00: But we are making gains.
30:17
SPEAKER_00: And to that point, last night in Omaha, a four-term mayor got defeated by a Black Democrat.
30:27
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
30:28
SPEAKER_00: Congratulations, Omaha.
30:30
SPEAKER_00: Yep.
30:30
SPEAKER_00: You know, Omaha and Nebraska did the right thing.
30:33
SPEAKER_00: Didn't somebody bring impeachment articles to the floor?
30:49
SPEAKER_00: Didn't somebody in the House?
30:55
SPEAKER_00: Oh, God.
30:55
SPEAKER_00: I know someone was preparing them.
30:57
SPEAKER_00: I think there were some being prepared.
30:59
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I don't think they were.
31:00
SPEAKER_00: I think Democrats are starting to...
31:05
SPEAKER_00: not care about the futility of some of their moves but they're just making the moves because they need to for the record for history to um to do things like that also to take the new cycle yeah and take the new cycle and and um i'm trying to think of some of our other victories i know we've had them you know even just in a week even in the last week well one of them is the crypto I mean, the fact that the crypto bill has been put up, that's a big one.
31:36
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
31:37
SPEAKER_00: Because that was due to be put out there.
31:41
SPEAKER_00: I think that this plane thing is very bad for Trump.
31:47
SPEAKER_00: I do too.
31:48
SPEAKER_00: It is, and that's why I'm glad we talked about it.
31:51
SPEAKER_00: Because I live with it.
31:53
SPEAKER_00: I think that there's nobody I know, Republican or Democrat, or otherwise independent who thinks that taking a$400 million plane from a foreign government is a good idea.
32:08
SPEAKER_00: Nobody that, I mean, so you might have cult members, you know, the 20% that would think that anything Trump does is great, but not, other than that, no, I just don't see it.
32:21
SPEAKER_00: I don't see, there's no justification for it.
32:25
SPEAKER_00: None whatsoever.
32:26
SPEAKER_00: And people can't justify it.
32:29
SPEAKER_00: And the other victory, Aliza, now that you mention it, is the fact that he backed down on tariffs.
32:35
SPEAKER_00: He negotiated with himself and he backed down.
32:41
SPEAKER_00: Well, he is the best negotiator if he got himself to, you know.
32:45
SPEAKER_00: China is now the leader of the global economy and will remain so because we can't be trusted anymore.
32:53
SPEAKER_00: No.
32:54
SPEAKER_00: He negotiated away our most trusted nation status.
33:00
SPEAKER_00: Yep.
33:01
SPEAKER_00: He did.
33:02
SPEAKER_00: And we may never get it back.
33:06
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I don't know.
33:07
SPEAKER_00: I can't rest in that thought.
33:11
SPEAKER_00: I can't let that be.
33:13
SPEAKER_00: I can't either.
33:14
SPEAKER_00: I can't let myself stay in that thought.
33:16
SPEAKER_00: If you're Canada or Europe or anybody else, How long is it gonna take before you trust us again?
33:25
SPEAKER_00: I don't think it's a matter of how long it's going to take.
33:28
SPEAKER_00: I think it's a matter of what kind of movement happens in the face of his fascism.
33:49
SPEAKER_00: Like I just, I am, I am not, now I know that I'm generally a pretty cynical person.
34:02
SPEAKER_01: No,
34:04
SPEAKER_00: no, how can you say that?
34:06
SPEAKER_00: I know, I know, I'm just, but you know, there is the little tiny part of me that has a sunny optimism, believe it or not.
34:18
SPEAKER_00: And I do not rule out people that the pendulum swinging so hard in the other direction that, you know, people in this nation swinging so hard and saying, you know, putting this bullshit down in such a decisive way that like, that it actually takes root.
34:53
SPEAKER_00: Well, in a way that, you know, that you know, people like Schumer, people who are so establishment that they can't stomach the idea of doing away with civility in the Senate, those people get absolutely shoved aside and put out to pasture where they belong.
35:16
SPEAKER_00: And that the real people, like, who know what needs to be done, like Jasmine Crockett and, you know, Dan Goldberg and I mean, we can name a million people who really, really know what needs to be done.
35:34
SPEAKER_00: And Jamie Raskin.
35:38
SPEAKER_00: I mean, I can think of so many people who really have a grip.
35:45
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but big picture.
35:46
SPEAKER_00: And if a miracle occurs, I can see us not being...
35:57
SPEAKER_00: a century away from gaining the world's trust back again.
36:00
SPEAKER_00: I can see us possibly- I can see it 50 years away because what happened- Maybe sooner.
36:05
SPEAKER_00: I can see us really taking- Joe Biden and- I can see us taking steps to reverse things like Citizens United, taking steps that would make meaningful change to the way that things that have allowed our country to become what it is.
36:31
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
36:31
SPEAKER_00: But if I'm Canada and I look at what happened and okay, they elected Trump, then they elected Biden and things were like back to the status quo, but then Trump came back in.
36:44
SPEAKER_00: And as long as you still have a faction of reactionaries that are not going to give up on taking the power back, no matter what we do.
36:56
SPEAKER_00: I'm Canada.
36:59
SPEAKER_00: How many years is it gonna be before I trust the US again?
37:03
SPEAKER_00: Well, what I'm saying is it depends how decisively we crush that faction.
37:08
SPEAKER_00: Right.
37:09
SPEAKER_00: And I do hold hope that that faction is crushed.
37:12
SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
37:12
SPEAKER_00: If there's a way for us to crush decisively that faction so that there is absolutely no question that those people are now a real friend.
37:27
SPEAKER_00: Then I think it's not 50 years away.
37:31
SPEAKER_00: I agree.
37:33
SPEAKER_00: I think you're right.
37:34
SPEAKER_00: I pray it happens.
37:35
SPEAKER_00: I do too.
37:36
SPEAKER_00: But again, that's the tiny...
37:39
SPEAKER_00: That's the part of me that won't let me rest with the notion that nobody's ever going to trust us again.
37:45
SPEAKER_00: I just can't live there.
37:48
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I can't either.
37:49
SPEAKER_00: But if we go back to the plane for a minute, and you mentioned Raskin, that's what triggered this, is that there's been a lot of right-wingers that have been saying, well, hey, we got the gift of the Statue of Liberty.
38:07
SPEAKER_00: yeah it's the same thing i mean congress accepted that congress accepted it and then you know you can fly around in her right you can fly around in her yeah i was gonna say like like the president didn't take it home and you know to his library and you know and and so Thatch of Liberty in the Grover Cleveland Library or whoever was president in 1886.
38:36
SPEAKER_00: Right.
38:36
SPEAKER_00: So Democrats, there are Democrats who think that, hey, you know, okay, you want to go that route?
38:43
SPEAKER_00: Let's go that route.
38:44
SPEAKER_00: Let's schedule a vote in Congress and see how Congress feels about it.
38:48
SPEAKER_00: Yep.
38:49
SPEAKER_00: Yep.
38:50
SPEAKER_00: You know, so.
38:51
SPEAKER_00: Did Raskin have a field day with that or something?
38:54
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, Raskin did and so did Chris Murphy.
38:57
SPEAKER_00: Oh, I love that.
38:58
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, he was good.
38:59
SPEAKER_00: So it was actually in the Senators, it was Schatz, Murphy, Cory Booker, Chris Coons, and then Jamie Raskin was also on there.
39:12
SPEAKER_00: But so, you know, yeah, do the vote.
39:15
SPEAKER_00: Put the Republicans on their record.
39:17
SPEAKER_00: Sure.
39:18
SPEAKER_00: And Tuberville, I guess, is already like trying to block it from being voted on in the Senate.
39:25
SPEAKER_00: Even Tuberville.
39:27
SPEAKER_00: seas this is bad no but he's trying to block the vote that's because he knows it's a losing issue right so everybody you know let's just get him on the record who thinks it's a good idea for the qatari government to buy off the president of the united states raise your hand nobody's nobody wants to vote for that and then they're having a pissy bit about you know how how uh you know if you get if you're given a putt you take the putt like i'm sorry but a plane is not a putt no no um as juicy as all of this is i think that we do need to talk about what happened um i guess on friday New Jersey of Newark mayor Baraka at the ICE facility protest.
40:28
SPEAKER_00: Very Gestapo tactics coming from the DHS.
40:34
SPEAKER_00: And the fact that, you know, last week we were applauding that Ed Martin was not going to be the D.C.
40:42
SPEAKER_00: U.S.
40:42
SPEAKER_00: attorney.
40:43
SPEAKER_00: Now we've got Judge Box along.
40:50
SPEAKER_00: But Ed Martin is now heading a workforce on weaponization of the DOJ.
40:59
SPEAKER_00: It's not It's not called anti-weaponization.
41:02
SPEAKER_00: It's called weaponization.
41:04
SPEAKER_00: He is in charge of going after Trump's- Like it's a good thing.
41:08
SPEAKER_00: Like, hey, let's- DOJ Weaponization Working Group.
41:11
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
41:12
SPEAKER_00: Because they always accuse us of what they're actually doing, right?
41:15
SPEAKER_00: So it was all, they whined about the weaponization of the DOJ.
41:19
SPEAKER_00: We weren't doing it.
41:21
SPEAKER_00: And Merrick Garland wasn't doing half what he should have done.
41:27
SPEAKER_00: To try to be- And now they are saying outright, yeah, we're weaponizing VOJ.
41:35
SPEAKER_00: You betcha.
41:36
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
41:38
SPEAKER_00: Oh, I love these people.
41:39
SPEAKER_00: They're just so fascistic.
41:43
SPEAKER_00: They're so obvious.
41:44
SPEAKER_00: But I mean, you know, they're talking about arresting the other Congress people who were there legally in their oversight.
41:51
SPEAKER_00: All of them were there legally.
41:52
SPEAKER_00: They weren't trespassing.
41:53
SPEAKER_00: They were on the public part of the land.
41:55
SPEAKER_00: And their oversight capacity.
41:57
SPEAKER_00: Oversight capacity.
41:59
SPEAKER_00: The facility is breaking laws by not getting their permits renewed.
42:05
SPEAKER_00: And so it was a fact-finding type of mission.
42:09
SPEAKER_00: They arrest the Black mayor, who's also a New Jersey gubernatorial candidate.
42:14
SPEAKER_00: I predict that his poll numbers are going up because of that.
42:18
SPEAKER_00: And now they threaten to arrest The other Congress people, they accused this little Congresswoman of a face.
42:30
SPEAKER_00: Of assaulting.
42:32
SPEAKER_00: One of these masked.
42:36
SPEAKER_00: Okay, that's the part that really bugs me the most, guys, is that these guys with their masks, they don't know what they're doing, and they're You know, they're out there with their masks, so there's no way to identify them.
42:48
SPEAKER_00: They have no ID.
42:49
SPEAKER_00: They have no.
42:51
SPEAKER_00: No badges.
42:51
SPEAKER_00: That's Gestapo.
42:52
SPEAKER_00: I mean, that's.
42:53
SPEAKER_00: No badge numbers.
42:54
SPEAKER_00: There's nothing.
42:56
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
42:58
SPEAKER_00: I mean, it's really terrifying, honestly.
43:02
SPEAKER_00: This is, you know, three months in, four months in.
43:09
SPEAKER_00: And they've got our personal data.
43:17
SPEAKER_00: It's exhausting.
43:18
SPEAKER_00: They're not going to stop at Congress people.
43:24
SPEAKER_00: Well, of course they're not.
43:25
SPEAKER_00: I mean, the Congress people actually is a stretch.
43:28
SPEAKER_00: It's everybody else that needs to worry.
43:31
SPEAKER_00: I mean, they could try to do whatever.
43:36
SPEAKER_00: And the thing is, if they do it to us, to people like us, we don't have the means to fight back on a lot of this stuff.
43:44
SPEAKER_00: No, and we don't have the platforms to make news.
43:48
SPEAKER_00: The only thing that goes, I mean, it's happening, the people to whom, the people we know about it happening to, it's just because other people are there with cameras and it's going viral.
44:09
SPEAKER_00: But it's happening, to, I mean, multiply that by hundreds.
44:16
SPEAKER_00: Think about the people we don't even know about to whom it's happening, and it is.
44:20
SPEAKER_00: There was in Baltimore, there was a hearing today about a facility in Baltimore City where there are ICEs detaining people, and apparently the conditions are horrendous.
44:40
SPEAKER_00: in Baltimore City where they're detaining people and it's incredibly overcrowded.
44:47
SPEAKER_00: And there was a protest at the courthouse where there was this hearing about the detainees being you know for number one detained to begin with but number two in these awful conditions in the george fallon building um in baltimore city um which has a nice um office you know it's not a it's not a prison or a you know a jailhouse per se or anything it's just an office office in baltimore I didn't even know about it.
45:27
SPEAKER_00: I live in Baltimore.
45:28
SPEAKER_00: I didn't even know that was happening until somebody from Free State Coalition sent me a flyer and said, come down at noon today, we're having this.
45:36
SPEAKER_00: And I was like, oh my gosh, I'm in the middle of writing an article for something else I can't.
45:43
SPEAKER_00: Otherwise I would try to cover it.
45:46
SPEAKER_00: But I sent it along to my editor and I was like, hey, just so you know, this is happening.
45:49
SPEAKER_00: And we're going to try to get in touch with her about tomorrow and find out what happened at the hearing today.
45:56
SPEAKER_00: So out here in Oxnard, which is just a little piece down the freeway, we knew we've seen ice out in the fields with Ventura County sheriffs helping them, which Ventura County sheriff said they wouldn't do, but here we are.
46:14
SPEAKER_00: And So this weekend, they grabbed two parents and left the kids in the car at a gas station.
46:24
SPEAKER_00: All that.
46:25
SPEAKER_00: Just horrendous.
46:27
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
46:29
SPEAKER_00: So the cruelty for them is the point.
46:33
SPEAKER_00: Right.
46:34
SPEAKER_00: And to spread the fear.
46:36
SPEAKER_00: Right.
46:37
SPEAKER_00: And to spread fear.
46:38
SPEAKER_00: Right.
46:39
SPEAKER_00: And in the meantime, if you don't mind me changing this subject just a little bit.
46:46
SPEAKER_00: No, change it.
46:47
SPEAKER_00: Trump is very sympathetic to the white Afrikaner farmers, South African farmers.
46:57
SPEAKER_00: Oh, have a heart, Carol Lee.
47:00
SPEAKER_00: Have a heart for those poor white people from South Africa.
47:04
SPEAKER_00: especially especially the anti-semitic ones oh yes if you are a white anti-semite welcome but anybody else you need a place to go you say anything you know about you know poor gods and children being murdered you're the medic and we're going to kick you out right yeah and and But these farmers are about the only ones that are being let in, and they're being let in under asylum laws.
47:35
SPEAKER_00: And Trump, when he's asked about this, says, well, there's a genocide going on.
47:42
SPEAKER_00: There's no genocide going on.
47:44
SPEAKER_00: There's no genocide of white people in South Africa.
47:47
SPEAKER_00: There is none of that.
47:49
SPEAKER_00: That is not happening.
47:52
SPEAKER_00: by the way that's like the fever dream of the neo-nazis right that's that's he's repeating neo-nazi lies yeah basically it's white it's white it's replacement theory it is well it's it is replacement theory and it actually is intended to be replacement you know like like get rid of the brown people and bring in those white white people in i mean it is exactly what he was saying about how we you know, need to have people from non-shithole countries.
48:24
SPEAKER_00: Right.
48:24
SPEAKER_00: Well, you know, except that none of the real non-shithole countries, like, you know, the Northern European countries that he's talking about, none of them want to come here.
48:32
SPEAKER_00: Right.
48:33
SPEAKER_00: It would be a downgrade for them.
48:36
SPEAKER_00: It's healthcare.
48:37
SPEAKER_00: It's healthcare and happiness.
48:40
SPEAKER_00: Why do they want to come here?
48:41
SPEAKER_00: So, meanwhile, so they get people from, you know, they get the white assholes from South Africa to come here.
48:48
SPEAKER_00: Right.
48:50
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
48:51
SPEAKER_00: Were you, to change the subject again.
48:54
SPEAKER_00: Sorry, we're all over the place today.
48:56
SPEAKER_00: We're all over the place.
48:58
SPEAKER_00: But it's kind of fun.
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SPEAKER_00: In the Guardian's recap this morning, someone was doing an analysis of the Cybertruck and said that it looks like the trucks that the government used in South Africa in the 90s.
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SPEAKER_00: Did it?
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SPEAKER_00: I have no knowledge of that.
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SPEAKER_00: I'd have to go look at those, but I wouldn't be at all surprised.
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SPEAKER_00: It fits together.
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SPEAKER_00: It's probably the trucks he drew when he was five.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
49:31
SPEAKER_00: That's probably what he drew.
49:33
SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
49:35
SPEAKER_00: Well, I mean, he was in South Africa and yeah, trucks.
49:39
SPEAKER_00: And yeah, so he drew it when he was five and that's what he's imagined it to be.
49:43
SPEAKER_00: And here we are.
49:44
SPEAKER_00: It was an article about how the Cybertruck was supposed to appeal to preppers.
49:51
SPEAKER_00: And preppers aren't interested in it because it's impractical it's a terrible vehicle it is it's especially if you live in cold climates you know if you live anywhere you know in general fully electric vehicles are not great once you get into a certain climate you know what vehicle what fully electric vehicle is great for for the situations that musk was advertising the cyber truck as The Rivian.
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SPEAKER_00: The Rivian is a great truck.
50:30
SPEAKER_00: It is.
50:31
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
50:32
SPEAKER_00: I mean, it's like everybody who has one is like, they love it.
50:36
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
50:37
SPEAKER_00: They love it.
50:37
SPEAKER_00: I thought that it didn't get great.
50:39
SPEAKER_00: Like I always, I'm like a total, I swear by consumer reports and their evaluations.
50:46
SPEAKER_00: I didn't think it had gotten great reviews from them, but in terms of like reliability and stuff, but yeah.
50:52
SPEAKER_00: You're saying people who you know that own the Rivian are loving it?
50:56
SPEAKER_00: Love them.
50:57
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
50:57
SPEAKER_00: And they're flying off the lot.
50:59
SPEAKER_00: They can't keep them on the lot.
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SPEAKER_00: They're gorgeous.
51:02
SPEAKER_00: And Rivian's coming out with a car too, right?
51:06
SPEAKER_00: They do have an SUV now.
51:08
SPEAKER_00: Oh, okay.
51:08
SPEAKER_00: It was a truck.
51:10
SPEAKER_00: And they probably are going to have a coupe, but they started with the trucks.
51:14
SPEAKER_00: Right.
51:15
SPEAKER_00: On the EV news too, GM...
51:19
SPEAKER_00: has come up with a revolutionary new battery that costs half of what the current battery technology is and uses minerals that are widely available.
51:33
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
51:34
SPEAKER_00: That's even better.
51:35
SPEAKER_00: And this was in Wired.
51:39
SPEAKER_00: And that conceivably as this battery, which is made in the US, comes on the market, GM's EVs can get closer to the price of its gas cars.
51:51
SPEAKER_00: Oh, that would be great.
51:52
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
51:53
SPEAKER_00: That would be awesome.
51:54
SPEAKER_00: And better.
51:57
SPEAKER_00: And...
51:59
SPEAKER_00: Let's hope that comes to be because that's good.
52:01
SPEAKER_00: So in spite of Trump, we're actually still inventing a few things that are good in this country.
52:07
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, well.
52:08
SPEAKER_00: You know, that work had to have been done before Trump.
52:11
SPEAKER_00: I was going to say, that's thank you, Biden, for the, you know, the.
52:14
SPEAKER_00: Thank you, Joe Biden.
52:16
SPEAKER_00: Right.
52:17
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, for investing in, you know, the country.
52:20
SPEAKER_00: Battery technology.
52:21
SPEAKER_00: That was a big investment.
52:22
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
52:22
SPEAKER_00: And by the way, the new budget wants to do away with the$7,500 tax credit for EVs.
52:28
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
52:29
SPEAKER_00: Well, for EVs.
52:30
SPEAKER_00: So, which seems to me like, you know, okay.
52:33
SPEAKER_00: So we want- That didn't apply to Teslas, did it?
52:37
SPEAKER_00: Or did it?
52:38
SPEAKER_00: What?
52:39
SPEAKER_00: Did that, do those apply to Teslas?
52:41
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, they did.
52:41
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, absolutely.
52:43
SPEAKER_00: That was why we, that was one of the reasons why we bought our Tesla.
52:46
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
52:47
SPEAKER_00: Because we wanted to get that credit because it made the cost closer to the cost of a- A regular car.
52:54
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
52:54
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
52:55
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
52:55
SPEAKER_00: That was the thing.
52:58
SPEAKER_00: And those tax credits are pretty important.
53:01
SPEAKER_00: like you said, the reason that people are buying EVs is because they can afford them with that tax credit.
53:09
SPEAKER_00: And I just think to myself, so when you say you want to lower taxes for people, it's only really that you want to lower taxes for billionaires.
53:18
SPEAKER_00: The rest of us can go fuck off, right?
53:20
SPEAKER_00: Because we're not going to get the tax credits for that or for their, like, I'd like to buy new windows and I'm not going to get a tax credit for that, you know, anymore.
53:30
SPEAKER_00: And of course the new Windows come from China.
53:33
SPEAKER_00: So if I have to have them made.
53:36
SPEAKER_00: They're going to cost more.
53:38
SPEAKER_00: They're going to cost more.
53:39
SPEAKER_00: So you lose the tax credit and you get to pay more.
53:42
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
53:42
SPEAKER_00: Right.
53:43
SPEAKER_00: And everything said, hey, Elon Musk can have a few extra dollars to go buy himself some more, I don't know what.
53:50
SPEAKER_00: Children.
53:51
SPEAKER_00: Baseball caps.
53:52
SPEAKER_00: Children.
53:53
SPEAKER_00: Help a woman to have more babies.
53:57
SPEAKER_00: Or more plastic surgery for himself.
54:01
SPEAKER_00: More gender affirming plastic surgery.
54:06
SPEAKER_00: I absolutely love that frame.
54:11
SPEAKER_00: I do.
54:11
SPEAKER_00: I mean, that's what it is.
54:12
SPEAKER_00: It is.
54:14
SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
54:15
SPEAKER_00: We've gone into the physical insult portion of the show.
54:19
SPEAKER_00: Maybe it's time to call it a day.
54:29
SPEAKER_00: Hey, I'm all for gender affirming surgery.
54:32
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I am too.
54:35
SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
54:35
SPEAKER_00: We agree.
54:36
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
54:37
SPEAKER_00: And that is that then.
54:41
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54:51
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54:56
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55:04
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