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- 0:00Speaker 1: Hey guys, welcome back to the campfire. I have another
- 0:03Speaker 1: awesome story to share with you tonight. So when I
- 0:06Speaker 1: was a kid, I.
- 0:07Speaker 2: Used to love reading this book called Scary Stories to
- 0:10Speaker 2: Tell in the Dark, which is this really frankly not
- 0:13Speaker 2: kid friendly, scary story book that's marketed for kids, but
- 0:17Speaker 2: it's like terrifying. The stories in there are like they
- 0:20Speaker 2: kept me up at night. I mean, they were really
- 0:22Speaker 2: disturbing stories. They were fictional, but they rocked me as
- 0:27Speaker 2: a kid. And when I read the story I'm going
- 0:31Speaker 2: to share with you tonight, it just really brought me
- 0:34Speaker 2: back to that feeling I got when I used to
- 0:36Speaker 2: read those stories as a child. This story tonight feels
- 0:40Speaker 2: like it belongs in that book, except Tonight's story is
- 0:45Speaker 2: not fiction like the book was.
- 0:46Speaker 1: This is a true story.
- 0:48Speaker 2: This story took place in Malaysia in the nineteen seventies,
- 0:51Speaker 2: and even though when you first hear it, it's almost
- 0:55Speaker 2: going to sound like urban legend when you get to
- 0:58Speaker 2: the end of the story. So the end of this episode,
- 1:00Speaker 2: I will share the very famous photograph that is associated
- 1:05Speaker 2: with this story and is frankly the reason people continue
- 1:08Speaker 2: to talk about the story because this photograph sort of
- 1:12Speaker 2: makes it impossible for this to be an urban legend.
- 1:15Speaker 1: I'll show you that photograph.
- 1:16Speaker 2: It's going to horrify you, and then you can be
- 1:19Speaker 2: the judge of what you think really happened. But before
- 1:23Speaker 2: we get into tonight's story, if you're a fan of
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- 1:51Speaker 2: let's get into tonight's story. One summer night in the
- 2:11Speaker 2: nineteen seventies, a young woman named Hannah was sitting next
- 2:14Speaker 2: to her husband at a blackjack table inside of the
- 2:17Speaker 2: Genting Highlands Casino, which was this huge casino in central Malaysia.
- 2:21Speaker 2: The room they were in was bright, it was loud,
- 2:23Speaker 2: there was people everywhere. You know, there's cigarette smoke hovering
- 2:26Speaker 2: in the air, lots of drinking and chatting and laughing
- 2:29Speaker 2: and gambling. And so as Hannah is sitting in this environment,
- 2:33Speaker 2: she was doing her best not to let her nerves
- 2:36Speaker 2: get the best of.
- 2:37Speaker 1: Her, but she couldn't help it. I mean, she was
- 2:39Speaker 1: really feeling anxious because.
- 2:41Speaker 2: Her husband had just bet all their chips on this
- 2:46Speaker 2: one hand. So her husband had been dealt as two
- 2:48Speaker 2: cards and they totaled nineteen, which was basically good because
- 2:53Speaker 2: in blackjack, you're trying to get to twenty one. You
- 2:56Speaker 2: want your cards in total to equal twenty one, but
- 2:58Speaker 2: you don't want to go over.
- 3:00Speaker 1: To lose, and so nineteen is pretty good.
- 3:02Speaker 2: But you're playing really against the dealer, and so basically
- 3:05Speaker 2: it's between you and the dealer who can get closest
- 3:08Speaker 2: to twenty one without going over. So the dealer had
- 3:11Speaker 2: two cards. One must face up and one was face down.
- 3:14Speaker 2: The face upcard was a ten, and so Hannah is
- 3:18Speaker 2: anxiously waiting to see this other card flipped over, just
- 3:21Speaker 2: praying it's not a ten, because that would give him
- 3:23Speaker 2: twenty and that would beat you know, her husband's nineteen,
- 3:26Speaker 2: and they would lose. And so the dealer he flips
- 3:29Speaker 2: over this other card and it's a four. So now
- 3:33Speaker 2: he's got fourteen, and so that's good. It means Hannah
- 3:36Speaker 2: and her husband they're still in the lead here. But
- 3:39Speaker 2: the dealer will keep on hitting, so adding more cards
- 3:42Speaker 2: to the pile here, adding to their total score until
- 3:46Speaker 2: they either hit seventeen at least, or until they beat you,
- 3:50Speaker 2: or until they bust. So they're going to keep on
- 3:52Speaker 2: drawing more cards. And so the dealer draws another card.
- 3:56Speaker 2: He puts it face down and it's an eight. And
- 3:59Speaker 2: so now collective the dealer has twenty two. They've gone
- 4:02Speaker 2: over twenty one. They busted, and Hannah and her husband
- 4:06Speaker 2: have won. And so Hannah, she turns to her husband
- 4:09Speaker 2: and she's overjoyed. I mean, they've just gambled all their
- 4:12Speaker 2: money and they've won. I mean, this is a huge win.
- 4:15Speaker 2: And Hannah and her husband, they didn't really come for
- 4:17Speaker 2: money here. I mean, they're very modest people. They had
- 4:20Speaker 2: saved up money for this trip. They'd really wanted to
- 4:22Speaker 2: come to this casino for a long time, and now
- 4:25Speaker 2: it was like their luck was just incredible.
- 4:27Speaker 1: They're having this unbelievable run.
- 4:29Speaker 2: They had won a bunch of money beforehand, and now
- 4:32Speaker 2: they had just won this hand and they doubled their money,
- 4:35Speaker 2: Like this is incredible. And so at this point, Hannah
- 4:38Speaker 2: and her husband they take all their chips. They leave
- 4:40Speaker 2: the blackjack table. Everyone's like so excited for them, like
- 4:44Speaker 2: the energy is awesome. And so Hannah and her husband
- 4:47Speaker 2: they make their way over to the cashier and they
- 4:49Speaker 2: cash all their chips. They get all this cash, and
- 4:51Speaker 2: Hanna's talking to her husband like this is awesome, Like
- 4:54Speaker 2: we were gonna have to drive home tonight. Let's get
- 4:56Speaker 2: a room here, Let's use some of this money and
- 4:59Speaker 2: like stay at the last I have a hotel they have,
- 5:01Speaker 2: Maybe we can go back to the casino tomorrow. Let's
- 5:03Speaker 2: make a vacation out of this. But after cashing all
- 5:07Speaker 2: their chips, Hanna's husband he didn't seem too inclined to
- 5:12Speaker 2: go spend the money on a hotel room or a
- 5:14Speaker 2: restaurant or whatever.
- 5:16Speaker 1: He told her.
- 5:17Speaker 2: He's like, I don't know, like I feel really lucky,
- 5:20Speaker 2: like I'm gonna roll here.
- 5:21Speaker 1: I don't want to just like be done.
- 5:23Speaker 2: I think I should go play slots and try to
- 5:25Speaker 2: win a little bit more money.
- 5:26Speaker 1: I think we can we can win more money.
- 5:29Speaker 2: And Hanna's like, are you crazy, Like this is the
- 5:31Speaker 2: most money we've ever won ever, like this is this
- 5:34Speaker 2: is a once in a lifetime opportunity. If we stay
- 5:37Speaker 2: and continue to gamble, we're gonna we're just gonna lose
- 5:39Speaker 2: the money. Like, let's let's take the win, let's let's
- 5:42Speaker 2: get the hotel room.
- 5:43Speaker 1: Let's just do that.
- 5:45Speaker 2: But Hanna's husband, he was not having it, and he
- 5:47Speaker 2: literally just took their money and was like, no, I'm
- 5:50Speaker 2: gonna I'm gonna go do slots now, and he walked
- 5:53Speaker 2: over to a slot machine.
- 5:54Speaker 1: And Han's like, oh my god. She follows her husband
- 5:58Speaker 1: over to the slot machine, and before long he's he's playing.
- 6:01Speaker 2: The slots and it's it's not going well, and Hannah's
- 6:04Speaker 2: trying to convince him to stop, but he just he
- 6:07Speaker 2: wouldn't have it, and he was so committed. He just
- 6:09Speaker 2: kept going and going, and wouldn't you know it, after
- 6:12Speaker 2: two hours of this, all the money was gone. Well,
- 6:15Speaker 2: actually it was not entirely all gone. He still had
- 6:19Speaker 2: a little bit of money that they had intentionally set
- 6:21Speaker 2: aside just to cover the hotel because they needed a
- 6:24Speaker 2: place to stay that night, and they had stayed later
- 6:27Speaker 2: at the casino, and so literally they are down to
- 6:30Speaker 2: just enough to stay in the hotel. And so at
- 6:32Speaker 2: this point, Hannah, she's already accepted that they've lost all
- 6:35Speaker 2: their winnings, and she's telling her husband, like, please, let's
- 6:38Speaker 2: just walk away.
- 6:39Speaker 1: Let's use this money. Let's just stay in the hotel.
- 6:42Speaker 1: It is what it is.
- 6:44Speaker 2: And they're about to leave when her husband's like, ah,
- 6:47Speaker 2: one more turns around, puts it in the slot machine,
- 6:50Speaker 2: pulls the lever loose. Now they literally have no money.
- 6:54Speaker 2: They have actually no more money. They can't get a hotel.
- 6:58Speaker 2: It's the middle of the night, late late late. They
- 7:00Speaker 2: have nowhere to stay, and now they have to drive home,
- 7:03Speaker 2: and the drive is going to be awful. Like Hannah
- 7:06Speaker 2: is furious with her husband. Her husband feels like, ah,
- 7:09Speaker 2: it's just bad luck.
- 7:10Speaker 1: It's not my fault. But Hanna's like, it is your fault.
- 7:12Speaker 1: You should have left.
- 7:13Speaker 2: So it's just this awful, awful exit from the casino,
- 7:16Speaker 2: like this is about to be the worst ride home ever.
- 7:19Speaker 2: About twenty minutes later, Hannah was sitting in the passenger
- 7:22Speaker 2: seat and her husband was driving, and they're cruising down
- 7:25Speaker 2: this road. It's again, it's the middle of the night.
- 7:28Speaker 2: They passed no cars as they're driving. They're in this
- 7:31Speaker 2: desolate stretch on their way back to their home. And
- 7:35Speaker 2: you know, as expected, this has been a treacherous ride
- 7:37Speaker 2: so far.
- 7:38Speaker 1: They fought at the beginning, and now they're just they're
- 7:40Speaker 1: not talking.
- 7:40Speaker 2: And so they're driving along and Hannah's just looking out
- 7:43Speaker 2: the window at all the trees. It's very jungly and
- 7:46Speaker 2: swampy off to the side on either side of the road,
- 7:48Speaker 2: and they're just they're driving.
- 7:49Speaker 1: Along, and at some point, as Hannah is just desperate
- 7:53Speaker 1: to get home, she just wants to go to bed.
- 7:54Speaker 2: She doesn't even care about the money at this point,
- 7:56Speaker 2: she just literally wants to get in her bed. They're
- 7:59Speaker 2: driving along when the car starts to sputter, like it's
- 8:03Speaker 2: running out of gas, and immediately Hannah looks over at
- 8:05Speaker 2: her husband like are you kidding me? And her husband's
- 8:08Speaker 2: looking over at her like knowing that he's gonna bring
- 8:11Speaker 2: even more wrath down on himself from his wife, and
- 8:13Speaker 2: he's just like, I'm sorry, Look, I didn't know it
- 8:16Speaker 2: was that low, Like I didn't know the tank was
- 8:18Speaker 2: that low.
- 8:19Speaker 1: And before long he had to pull over.
- 8:21Speaker 2: On the side of the road because their car was
- 8:23Speaker 2: out of gas, Like they couldn't go any farther.
- 8:25Speaker 1: And so Hannah, as the car has come to a stop.
- 8:28Speaker 2: On the side of the road, she just looks at
- 8:29Speaker 2: her husband and she's say, wow, like this night really
- 8:32Speaker 2: couldn't get any worse, Like, are you kidding me? We
- 8:34Speaker 2: are stranded in the middle of nowhere, We got no money, what.
- 8:37Speaker 1: Are we gonna do? And so Hanna's husband, you know, he.
- 8:41Speaker 2: Obviously knew this was not good, Like he knows he's
- 8:44Speaker 2: the one that was supposed to put gas in the
- 8:46Speaker 2: car and he didn't. You know, he's sort of been
- 8:49Speaker 2: the architect behind this whole disaster of a night here
- 8:51Speaker 2: with his decision to keep on gambling. And so he
- 8:54Speaker 2: just says to Hannah, look, you stay here, just stay
- 8:56Speaker 2: in the car.
- 8:57Speaker 1: I have a gas can.
- 8:59Speaker 2: I'll just walk walk to the nearest gas station. I'll
- 9:01Speaker 2: get some gas, I'll bring it back, I'll fill it up.
- 9:03Speaker 2: We'll be home soon. We can't be that far away anyways, Like,
- 9:07Speaker 2: it can't be that far away, So just just stay here.
- 9:09Speaker 1: I'll go get gas. And so Hannah's like, okay, fine,
- 9:14Speaker 1: go get gas.
- 9:15Speaker 2: And so Hanna just stays in the car and her
- 9:17Speaker 2: husband gets out. He goes in the back of the car,
- 9:19Speaker 2: he gets the gas can, and then before long, Hannah
- 9:22Speaker 2: watches as her husband walks ahead of the car and
- 9:24Speaker 2: disappears into the darkness.
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- 9:32Speaker 2: Are you so used to keeping everyone else comfortable that
- 9:35Speaker 2: you barely notice how often you abandon yourself in the process.
- 9:38Speaker 1: I think a lot of us have been there.
- 9:40Speaker 2: You get so used to putting everyone else first that
- 9:43Speaker 2: taking care of yourself almost starts to feel selfish, and
- 9:46Speaker 2: after a while, putting other people first stops feeling like
- 9:50Speaker 2: a choice, until one day you realize you can't remember
- 9:53Speaker 2: the last time a decision genuinely felt like your own.
- 9:57Speaker 2: And the strange thing about constantly managing others people's comfort
- 10:01Speaker 2: is that slowly you lose.
- 10:03Speaker 1: Touch with your own.
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- 10:07Speaker 2: those patterns come from, and it can help you rebuild
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- 10:34Speaker 2: first month of therapy. And so, after Hanna's husband has
- 10:41Speaker 2: walked off, she knows it's going to be at least,
- 10:43Speaker 2: you know, thirty forty minutes, you know, before he gets
- 10:46Speaker 2: gas and comes back. And you know, she's exhausted, and
- 10:49Speaker 2: so she makes sure all the doors are locked, and
- 10:51Speaker 2: then she leans back her seat and she just tries
- 10:53Speaker 2: to go to sleep, and pretty quickly she does doze off.
- 10:58Speaker 2: But then at some point, you know, maybe five to
- 10:59Speaker 2: ten minutes later, she just kind of inexplicably wakes up.
- 11:02Speaker 1: You know, there was no reason why she woke up.
- 11:04Speaker 2: She just opened her eyes and she, you know, for
- 11:06Speaker 2: a second, was a little bit disoriented. You know, when
- 11:08Speaker 2: you fall asleep for a few minutes like that, you'll
- 11:10Speaker 2: kind of wake up like what just happened? She disoriented,
- 11:13Speaker 2: and she remembered, oh, that's right. We had this horrible night.
- 11:16Speaker 2: You know, the casino went horribly. We ran out of gas.
- 11:18Speaker 2: So that's right, like I'm living out this nightmare. Okay,
- 11:21Speaker 2: now I know where I am. And so after getting
- 11:23Speaker 2: her bearings, Hanna just rolled over in her seat and
- 11:26Speaker 2: tried to go back to sleep, but this time, after
- 11:29Speaker 2: closing her eyes, you know, after just a few seconds,
- 11:32Speaker 2: she heard this loud, thumping noise on.
- 11:34Speaker 1: The roof of the car, and it was loud enough
- 11:36Speaker 1: that she opened her eyes back up.
- 11:38Speaker 2: And you know, there's no sunroof or anything, so she
- 11:40Speaker 2: couldn't see what it was. And it was so dark
- 11:42Speaker 2: outside and there were no street lights out there that
- 11:45Speaker 2: she couldn't just look out the window and see what
- 11:46Speaker 2: it was. But she knew her husband could not possibly
- 11:49Speaker 2: be back yet, and even if he was, why would
- 11:52Speaker 2: he be banging on the roof. But then she remembered
- 11:55Speaker 2: they had parked right next to this jungly swampy area
- 12:00Speaker 2: right off the side of the road, and you know,
- 12:02Speaker 2: there were probably some low hanging branches, and it was
- 12:04Speaker 2: entirely possible that the wind had caused a branch to
- 12:08Speaker 2: just bang against the roof of the car, and so
- 12:10Speaker 2: that's what she assumed it was. And after realizing that,
- 12:14Speaker 2: she just got comfortable again and closed her eyes. But
- 12:17Speaker 2: then a few seconds later, she heard another thump on
- 12:20Speaker 2: the roof of the car, and again, you know, she
- 12:23Speaker 2: instinctively looked out the window and she's sort of like
- 12:25Speaker 2: trying to figure out what it is, but she can't
- 12:28Speaker 2: see anything.
- 12:28Speaker 1: There's no sign of her husband walking up the road.
- 12:31Speaker 1: There's nothing, and.
- 12:33Speaker 2: So again she just tells herself, Okay, again, it's just
- 12:35Speaker 2: got to be this branch. But after hearing it a
- 12:39Speaker 2: second time, the thumping sound, it.
- 12:41Speaker 1: Began to sort of persist. It's not not super loud,
- 12:44Speaker 1: but it's pretty consistent. It's like a thumping.
- 12:46Speaker 2: Sound on the roof of the car, and it did
- 12:49Speaker 2: basically sound like a branch hitting the roof, but it's
- 12:51Speaker 2: just it now, it's just a nuisance. And more than anything,
- 12:55Speaker 2: she's just frustrated because it's loud enough that she's not
- 12:58Speaker 2: going to be able to sleep, and so she's.
- 12:59Speaker 1: Not frightened by it.
- 13:01Speaker 2: She's a little bit, you know, unnerved by it, perhaps
- 13:03Speaker 2: because it's the middle of the night she's all alone.
- 13:05Speaker 1: But for the most part, she's just like, ah, great,
- 13:08Speaker 1: now I can't sleep.
- 13:09Speaker 2: And so she's just sitting in her car and the
- 13:11Speaker 2: thumping is continuing, and she's just staring straight ahead.
- 13:14Speaker 1: And she knew, you know, she was sort of being
- 13:16Speaker 1: a little cowardly.
- 13:17Speaker 2: She figured I probably should just get out and just
- 13:19Speaker 2: confirm this really is a branch. But there was just
- 13:22Speaker 2: some part of her that's like, I'm in the middle
- 13:24Speaker 2: of nowhere, it's the middle of the night. It's a
- 13:25Speaker 2: little bit creepy, so I'm not going to do that.
- 13:27Speaker 2: So she's just looking straight ahead, really waiting for her husband,
- 13:31Speaker 2: and so thump, thump, thump. She's just looking straight ahead.
- 13:34Speaker 2: And then a little while later, she doesn't see her husband,
- 13:37Speaker 2: but she sees headlights appear that are coming in her direction.
- 13:41Speaker 2: And to this point, she hadn't seen a single other
- 13:43Speaker 2: car since they had been on this road basically, or
- 13:45Speaker 2: at least since they had pulled over, you know, because
- 13:48Speaker 2: they were out of gas.
- 13:49Speaker 1: She had not seen another car.
- 13:51Speaker 2: And so here comes a car approaching, and she's thinking, oh,
- 13:53Speaker 2: it's got to be my husband. He must have found
- 13:56Speaker 2: someone who, you know, heard about our story, and he's
- 13:59Speaker 2: got gas, just giving him a ride up here to
- 14:02Speaker 2: come drop him off.
- 14:03Speaker 1: He's gonna fill up the car. We're gonna be out
- 14:04Speaker 1: of here in a second, thank goodness.
- 14:06Speaker 2: And so Hannah, she doesn't get out of the car.
- 14:09Speaker 2: She just sits there, you know, waiting for this car
- 14:11Speaker 2: to approach. And the car as it gets closer and closer,
- 14:15Speaker 2: it appears to slow down, and it's too dark to
- 14:17Speaker 2: see you know, who's in the car, whether it's her
- 14:19Speaker 2: husband or not. But this car is clearly slowing down,
- 14:23Speaker 2: you know, it appears to recognize her car and where
- 14:26Speaker 2: she is.
- 14:27Speaker 1: And she's expecting at any point.
- 14:28Speaker 2: This car is gonna fully stop and her husband's going
- 14:31Speaker 2: to get out, and so she's just waiting and the
- 14:32Speaker 2: car is getting closer and it's slowing down. But then,
- 14:36Speaker 2: sort of inexplicably, right as this car is very close
- 14:40Speaker 2: to her car, the car just peels out and speeds
- 14:44Speaker 2: down the road just away from her as fast as
- 14:47Speaker 2: they could.
- 14:47Speaker 1: Go, and then they're gone.
- 14:49Speaker 2: And so immediately Hannah's like, Okay, one, clearly not my husband,
- 14:53Speaker 2: so that's disappointing, But two.
- 14:56Speaker 1: Like, what was that? Why did they do that?
- 14:59Speaker 2: Why did they slow down and speed up like that?
- 15:02Speaker 2: And the whole time this is going on, it's just
- 15:04Speaker 2: constant thumping on the roof of her car, which by
- 15:07Speaker 2: now she's almost zoned out, but it's it's persisting. And
- 15:10Speaker 2: so at this point Hannah went from being basically annoyed
- 15:14Speaker 2: with the situation to now starting to feel a little
- 15:18Speaker 2: bit freaked out.
- 15:19Speaker 1: I mean, her husband's still not back.
- 15:21Speaker 2: It's been at this point kind of a while since
- 15:23Speaker 2: he left, and she doesn't really know how far the
- 15:26Speaker 2: nearest gas station's going to be or how long it's
- 15:28Speaker 2: going to take him. But she's starting to think like
- 15:30Speaker 2: it should be soon, he should be getting back here.
- 15:33Speaker 2: And this weirdness with the car speeding off like that,
- 15:36Speaker 2: that just that wasn't normal. And then also there was
- 15:39Speaker 2: just this constant thumping on the roof of her car,
- 15:42Speaker 2: and she again had told herself it was a branch,
- 15:44Speaker 2: but she's starting to wonder like is it, but like
- 15:48Speaker 2: what else could it be?
- 15:49Speaker 1: And so now Hannah is.
- 15:51Speaker 2: Sitting here staring out, you know, into the darkness in
- 15:53Speaker 2: front of her, like desperately wishing her husband would show
- 15:57Speaker 2: up like any second here, like please like come out
- 16:00Speaker 2: of the darkness and rescue me, because this is getting
- 16:03Speaker 2: really uncomfortable. The time kept on ticking on and her
- 16:08Speaker 2: husband didn't show up, and the thumping continued, and no
- 16:11Speaker 2: other cars came through, and so Hannah slowly began to
- 16:14Speaker 2: worry that maybe her husband got lost, like maybe he's
- 16:17Speaker 2: he's not able to find where she is.
- 16:19Speaker 1: Is she just like stranded out here, like what's going on?
- 16:22Speaker 2: And so as Hannah is sort of beginning to spiral,
- 16:25Speaker 2: like as her thoughts are beginning to spiral, and she's
- 16:27Speaker 2: getting more and more worried, she started to give half
- 16:30Speaker 2: a thought to leaving the car and forget about what's
- 16:33Speaker 2: happening with the roof, like I'm gonna go find my husband,
- 16:36Speaker 2: like she thought about going and looking for him, but
- 16:38Speaker 2: then she thought, like what's gonna happen is I'm gonna
- 16:41Speaker 2: get out, I'm gonna go look for him, and we're
- 16:43Speaker 2: gonna like pass each other in the dark.
- 16:45Speaker 1: He's not gonna know I'm looking for him. I'm not
- 16:46Speaker 1: gonna find him. And now he's gonna be back.
- 16:48Speaker 2: At the car and I'm missing, and so I'm just
- 16:50Speaker 2: gonna create more problems. And so she she tells herself
- 16:53Speaker 2: that really the only thing she can do that's responsible
- 16:55Speaker 2: is just stay put. And so there she stays, and
- 17:00Speaker 2: the thumping continues, and her husband continues not to show up,
- 17:04Speaker 2: and like the time as it's going by, it's like
- 17:06Speaker 2: agonizingly slow, and now she's getting really worked up that
- 17:10Speaker 2: like you know, she's being watched or something like she's
- 17:12Speaker 2: really starting to get paranoid when all of a sudden,
- 17:15Speaker 2: down the road she sees something and it's really a
- 17:18Speaker 2: huge relief when she sees it. At first, she sees
- 17:22Speaker 2: more headlights, and at first she's thinking, oh, thank goodness,
- 17:25Speaker 2: this is going to be my husband, Like, this is
- 17:27Speaker 2: a car coming up the road. He's gonna be in
- 17:30Speaker 2: there this time. He's gonna get out of here. He's
- 17:31Speaker 2: got the gas, We're gonna get out of here. But
- 17:34Speaker 2: as the headlights appeared over the horizon coming towards her,
- 17:38Speaker 2: she realized it was not an ordinary car.
- 17:41Speaker 1: It was not just headlights. There were also lights on
- 17:43Speaker 1: top of this vehicle. It was a police car.
- 17:46Speaker 2: And so this police car is cruising down the road,
- 17:48Speaker 2: and you know, Hanna's thinking, well, you know, it could
- 17:51Speaker 2: still be my husband. You know, maybe he got a
- 17:53Speaker 2: ride from the police. But then she's thinking, oh, my goodness, like,
- 17:56Speaker 2: has something happened to him? Are they coming to tell
- 17:58Speaker 2: me that something's happened to my husband? Ah, Like, she's
- 18:01Speaker 2: having all these terrible thoughts. And so this police car
- 18:05Speaker 2: they come to a stop on the other side of
- 18:06Speaker 2: the road, and at first Hannah is just like unsure
- 18:09Speaker 2: what she should even be doing, like should she get
- 18:11Speaker 2: out to greet them, should she wait here? But as
- 18:14Speaker 2: she's just staring across the road at the two officers
- 18:17Speaker 2: that are in this vehicle, and she doesn't see her
- 18:19Speaker 2: husband in there.
- 18:21Speaker 1: She sees the officer that's closest to her, the driver.
- 18:24Speaker 2: He gets out of the car and he stands on
- 18:26Speaker 2: the road and then he draws his pistol and he
- 18:29Speaker 2: aims it at her, like he's aiming the gun at
- 18:33Speaker 2: her and the car she's in, and she's like, what
- 18:35Speaker 2: is going on here? And so she just freezes, doesn't
- 18:38Speaker 2: say or do anything. And the other officer in the
- 18:41Speaker 2: passenger side, so on the far side of the car,
- 18:43Speaker 2: he gets out of the cruiser as well, but he's
- 18:45Speaker 2: got a megaphone in his hand, and so through this
- 18:48Speaker 2: megaphone he kind of leans out and he barks three
- 18:51Speaker 2: orders to Hanna.
- 18:53Speaker 1: The first order is get out of the car.
- 18:56Speaker 2: The second order is come over to our car, and
- 19:00Speaker 2: the third order is.
- 19:02Speaker 1: Don't look back.
- 19:04Speaker 2: And so at this point Hannah realized that the first
- 19:08Speaker 2: officer who stepped out of the car with the gun,
- 19:11Speaker 2: he wasn't aiming at her. He was aiming at the
- 19:14Speaker 2: roof of her car. That's where his gun was pointed
- 19:17Speaker 2: right now. And so between that and the fact that
- 19:20Speaker 2: she's been listening to this thumping sound for the last
- 19:22Speaker 2: like forty five minutes, assuming it was a branch, she's
- 19:25Speaker 2: now realizing there's no way it's a branch, Like she
- 19:28Speaker 2: sort of sensed it couldn't be, like it had to
- 19:30Speaker 2: be something else. But she had sort of convinced herself, oh,
- 19:32Speaker 2: it's a tree branch.
- 19:34Speaker 1: Now she knows it's not.
- 19:35Speaker 2: And so she had no idea what could possibly be
- 19:40Speaker 2: on the roof of her car, but she knew whatever
- 19:42Speaker 2: it was, it had.
- 19:43Speaker 1: To be bad.
- 19:44Speaker 2: And so Hannah all she wants to do is get
- 19:47Speaker 2: out of this car and go over there. She doesn't
- 19:49Speaker 2: want to be here anymore. I mean, this whole thing
- 19:51Speaker 2: has been awful, and now she's terrified. But she's like frozen,
- 19:54Speaker 2: like what does she do? Like what's going on? But
- 19:57Speaker 2: again the officer with the bullhorn comes and says, hey,
- 20:01Speaker 2: get out of the car, come over to us, and
- 20:04Speaker 2: don't look back right now, get up, go, And so
- 20:09Speaker 2: Hannah is like, I just gotta go, And so she
- 20:12Speaker 2: opens her door and as fast as she can she
- 20:14Speaker 2: gets out.
- 20:15Speaker 1: She doesn't look back.
- 20:16Speaker 2: She banks herund the car and across the street she goes,
- 20:18Speaker 2: and the whole time she's thinking, oh, something's gonna grab me.
- 20:21Speaker 2: But she gets to the cop car, she throws open
- 20:23Speaker 2: the door and she jumps inside.
- 20:25Speaker 1: And at first she adheres to their orders. She doesn't
- 20:29Speaker 1: look back as they told her to. She didn't look back.
- 20:32Speaker 2: But now that she's like safely inside the cop car,
- 20:35Speaker 2: there's you know, two officers protecting her, one with a
- 20:38Speaker 2: gun drawn pointed at her car.
- 20:40Speaker 1: She couldn't help herself. She had to see what was
- 20:44Speaker 1: on the roof of her car. So she went over
- 20:47Speaker 1: to the window and.
- 20:48Speaker 2: She looked, and as soon as she saw what was
- 20:51Speaker 2: on the roof of her car, she just starts screaming.
- 20:55Speaker 2: And at the same time, the officer who was still
- 20:57Speaker 2: standing out there with his gun drawn, he be just
- 21:00Speaker 2: firing non stop at her car. And so Hannah, she's screams.
- 21:04Speaker 2: She ducks down behind the door. She can't see anything.
- 21:07Speaker 2: There's just this constant barrage of gunfire.
- 21:10Speaker 1: You know, blasting the car and whatever was on the
- 21:12Speaker 1: roof of the car.
- 21:13Speaker 2: And then you know, Hannah, she's tucked down and she's
- 21:15Speaker 2: thinking this is a nightmare, Like, how is this real.
- 21:18Speaker 2: She hears the sound of that officer who was shooting
- 21:20Speaker 2: and the other officer. They get out of the car.
- 21:23Speaker 2: She hears them run across the street towards her car.
- 21:25Speaker 2: The shooting kind of stops, and it's just like the
- 21:27Speaker 2: shuffling of feet, and then she hears this like loud
- 21:30Speaker 2: thumping sound is something really heavy, like slammed into the pavement.
- 21:34Speaker 1: And then she heard the sound of.
- 21:36Speaker 2: Something big, like running off into the jungle, into the
- 21:40Speaker 2: tree line, like trees just you know, moving all around.
- 21:43Speaker 2: And then there's just silence, and then a moment later,
- 21:46Speaker 2: she hears the sound of the officers coming back across
- 21:49Speaker 2: the street. She's still tucked down, she can't look out
- 21:52Speaker 2: the window. She just hears the sound of their footsteps.
- 21:54Speaker 2: It's definitely them, and as they're getting closer, she can
- 21:57Speaker 2: hear them like trying to make sense of what they
- 21:59Speaker 2: just saw, like they don't even know what.
- 22:00Speaker 1: They just saw.
- 22:02Speaker 2: And at some point Hanna's door opens up, and on
- 22:04Speaker 2: the other side it's the officer who had the megaphone, and.
- 22:08Speaker 1: He just looks ashen faced.
- 22:09Speaker 2: He's very shaken up, and he begins to try to
- 22:13Speaker 2: explain what he's just seen.
- 22:15Speaker 1: But it's clear he can't even describe it.
- 22:18Speaker 2: And as he's trying to do it, like Hannah, she's crying,
- 22:21Speaker 2: she's so upset, and she just tells him like, don't
- 22:23Speaker 2: even tell me, Like I I saw it too. When
- 22:27Speaker 2: Hannah did look back, So when she went against the
- 22:31Speaker 2: police's orders and she looked out the window back at
- 22:35Speaker 2: her car, what she saw at first, like didn't even compute.
- 22:40Speaker 2: She saw that clearly, there was no branch striking the
- 22:43Speaker 2: roof of her car. What she saw was a woman.
- 22:46Speaker 2: There was a woman on the roof of her car.
- 22:49Speaker 2: This woman is like dirty and her hair is maden,
- 22:52Speaker 2: and it was like kind of covering like the front
- 22:54Speaker 2: of her head, like she's just like weirdly positioned on
- 22:57Speaker 2: the roof of the car.
- 22:59Speaker 1: Like that clearly was what was making the.
- 23:01Speaker 2: Banging sound for the forty five minutes or so that
- 23:04Speaker 2: she was over there. And so that alone is like horrific.
- 23:07Speaker 2: But then in this instant that Hannah had looked over
- 23:10Speaker 2: and seen this woman, the woman she kind of appeared
- 23:14Speaker 2: to be eating something like that was the gesticulation that
- 23:16Speaker 2: she was doing. It sort of looked like she was
- 23:18Speaker 2: eating something. And she looked up for a second as
- 23:21Speaker 2: Hannah is staring across the road, and her matted hair
- 23:24Speaker 2: kind of parted, and the woman is looking right at Hannah.
- 23:28Speaker 1: And there's blood all over her mouth and her chin.
- 23:31Speaker 1: And then Hannah saw what she was eating, and.
- 23:34Speaker 2: That's the thing that made her start screaming and prompted
- 23:37Speaker 2: the police to start shooting. The woman was chewing on
- 23:43Speaker 2: Hannah's husband's severed head. And so as soon as the
- 23:47Speaker 2: police open fire, this cannibal woman lets go of the
- 23:50Speaker 2: head and it falls to the pavement and it makes
- 23:52Speaker 2: that loud thumping sound that Hannah would recall hearing as
- 23:56Speaker 2: she's crouched down, you know, wishing this was some nightmare.
- 23:59Speaker 2: And this woman, she leaps off the roof of the car,
- 24:03Speaker 2: you know, under a hail of gunfire. She lands on
- 24:05Speaker 2: all fours and like an animal, she gallops into the
- 24:09Speaker 2: tree line and vanishes. And so the two officers they
- 24:12Speaker 2: ran across the street after her, but quickly realized like
- 24:15Speaker 2: she was gone, and so they called for backup. Backup arrives,
- 24:19Speaker 2: and you know, all these officers go out into the
- 24:22Speaker 2: jungle and they can't find this woman. She's gone, but
- 24:26Speaker 2: they would find the rest of the body so the
- 24:28Speaker 2: rest of the husband's body was actually not far from
- 24:31Speaker 2: the vehicle. It was just laying out on the side
- 24:34Speaker 2: of the road, sort of tucked up against the tree line.
- 24:36Speaker 2: And so today, because this woman was never caught, there's
- 24:41Speaker 2: not really a good explanation of what actually happened. The
- 24:45Speaker 2: only evidence we have is that obviously Hannah's husband died.
- 24:49Speaker 1: We have his body, he was decapitated.
- 24:51Speaker 2: We have, you know, strong witness testimony, not just from Hanna,
- 24:54Speaker 2: but from these two police officers, and in some ways
- 24:57Speaker 2: the backup officers that also showed up, but they there.
- 25:00Speaker 1: Sort of after the fact.
- 25:02Speaker 2: But there's also one other piece of evidence that really
- 25:06Speaker 2: is the sole reason in some ways that this story
- 25:09Speaker 2: lives on and that we're still talking about it today,
- 25:11Speaker 2: and it's because it's far and away the most compelling
- 25:14Speaker 2: piece of evidence we have that this really happened the
- 25:17Speaker 2: way Hannah and the officer said it is this picture
- 25:22Speaker 2: of the woman on the roof of the car moments
- 25:25Speaker 2: before the police open fire. All right, thank you all
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