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Trekcast 390: A Friendly Get Together · Star Trek Podcast: Trekcast

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  Track Cast, the Galaxy's most unpredictable Star Trek podcast. So coming at you
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  from Idaho, New York and live. I'm from the Grand Rapid Comic Con
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  Springs Play in the Count Trek Book Center in count Michigan. This is Trek
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  Cast, Galaxy's most unpredictable Star Trek podcast. Today we're gonna be doing talking
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  about episode three of season five of Star Trek What is It Discovery. We've
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  also got Star Trek News your listener feedback. I'm Scott and with me are
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  the Heart and the Soul of Trek Cast, Daniel Reyes and Dan Lombardo.
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  The heart of the Soul, I'm never gonna say that way. I'm not
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  looking, you know, like a favorites. I can't dance, so I'm
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  definitely not the soul. Okay, I keep that in mind. You're gonna
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  leave that up to Daniel. Then by default, by default on the heart,
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  and by default you're the soul. Sorry, I'm distracted by There's a
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  dog, a really cute dog outside that's like rolling around the grass. He's
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  absolutely fine, he's enjoying life. So in fact, I'm gonna show you
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  he's he's right out there just enjoying life. There is hey puppy there he
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  is. Yeah, he's coming out. Oh yeah, I'm sure the cod
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  would love that. So I've got my I got this signed by Nanah visitor.
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  It's pronounced uh Nana like Mama Nana, which he has a Instagram Yeah
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  that I follow. So it's kind of cool. So so you got to
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  meet her? I did. I did. Lovely lady. We we talked
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  a little bit. I told her that I did a podcast. I said
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  that I co hosted, and uh, we have a really great team and
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  we always talk fondly about her and all a bunch of other bs, and
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  uh no, she was she was great, she was lovely. Uh.
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  We went to take a picture and I do that thing when I'm around members
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  of the oppoice sex and we take a photo together or whatever. I always
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  sort of put my hands sort of in front of me so I'm not intruding
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  on their space. And she came up to me and she's like, to
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  do it, do it, do a selfie and she goes she kind of
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  looks at me and she goes as, all right, I put on my
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  arm around you, and I'm like, yeah, if it's okay, if
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  I put my arm around you. So she was just a delight. So
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  I, uh so it was mirror. It was uh, it was mirror,
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  the non visitor, the hyperspical. I tell you, that's really what
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  I'm telling you. Yeah. Nice, that's awesome, man. Yeah,
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  yeah, good times. I also chatted with the guys from the USS Grand
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  Pataski. Uh. They are a member of the Star Trek International Fan Club,
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  so I I told them I'd give them a shout out and definitely go
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  check them out s t I dot org. And if you're in the Grand
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  Rapids or Southwest Michigan area, look up the USS Grand Potoski. They've got
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  a cool starship. Theirs is the refit of the Galaxy class, so it's
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  got the third Nacel and the Weapon o Mass Destruction on it. So yeah,
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  very cool. People ran into the Kalamazoo Ghostbusters. Again, very cool
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  guys. They actually went to a buddy of mine, Eric owns a small
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  movie theater in the town next to mine, and they played Ghostbusters Friday night,
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  and the Kalmsu Ghostbusters showed up to that and had a little little thing,
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  So yeah, very cool. A lot of stuff going on here.
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  It's it's a basically mini version of the one I went to uh in Grand
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  Grand Raptions. Grand rap is actual. So so the story behind that,
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  real quick is the reason why it's the Grand Rapids Comic Con in Kalamazoo Is.
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  A few years ago they were doing it at a what's called the Delta
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  Plex, and Grand Rapids they tore the Delta Plex down and they went moved
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  to the Devas Place. Well, the Devas Place wasn't ready for their comic
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  con at that time because they were still sort of revamping, and the Kalams
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  Expo Center and Kalamazoo said we've got a facility you can use tim you know,
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  just this year, and they did that I think three years ago,
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  and it was such a success that they said, you know what, We're
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  gonna do a satellite comic con every year in Kalamazoo. So it's kind of
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  like how the the New York Giants playing New Jersey. That's exactly that.
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  In fact, I couldn't think of a more perfect analogy. What Star Trek
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  celebrity did you meet today? What Star Trek celebrity did I meet today?
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  Well, because Scott did so clearly, we all had to oh yeah,
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  come on, step step up your game. Man. Yeah. Wow getting
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  called out on the show, wow, nobody, Yeah, I got nothing,
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  boy, Well I'll start. I'll stop talking now before Dan calls me
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  out and trying to take the show over. Just named Robin. I also
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  met a script supervisor for Next Generation. He's Face nine and Voyager on Friday.
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  But you know, no big start Trek. Oh yeah, I's heard.
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  You know, Patrick Stewart and Jonathan Frakes. We're just buy for T
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  and scones for breakfasts. But they left right before the show. No,
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  biggie one. One more quick story I want to share. I said that
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  I had this, I had her sign it. Armand Shimmerman signed this for
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  a friend of mine back in the late nineties and my friend Aaron, she
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  gave this signed photo to me and she's I asked her, Hey, do
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  you mind if I have you know, Nanav sign it. She's like absolutely,
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  And so I showed it to MS A visitor and I told her,
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  I said, you know, she said that she said that one's a fake.
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  Yeah she did. Yeah, she called it out like I can't authenticate
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  that. She goes, you know, you need to keep this going.
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  You need to have everybody sign it. I said, yeah, I know,
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  and I said, you know, it's kind of sad that I'll never
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  be able to get Renee to sign it. And she goes, yes,
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  that was that was a very sad time. She goes, and you're also
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  not going to be able to get Avery to sign it. And I said,
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  oh yeah, and she said, yeah, he doesn't, he's not.
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  She was she was searching for the word yeah, And I know she
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  probably wanted to say, you know, crazy, yeah, but he doesn't.
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  He doesn't make coublic experiences. He's he's residing in the celestial temple full
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  time. Yes, yep. Not to make light of whatever's going. I
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  saw him about fifteen years ago and he was quickly moving in that direction.
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  So I mean, if you watch the if you watch the documentary where he's
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  sitting at the piano with uh with William Shatner, Yes, moving in that
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  direction. Yeah, a waiting game. Wants to notice if you brooks at
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  ten, I don't think so. I don't know. He does not.
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  He does not. Yeah, that would be a big deal if he did.
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  But no, oh yeah, yeah, all right, Dan, that
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  was your week, my week? Yeah, it was. It was Okay,
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  without saying too much, there was some there was some crop rotation at
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  works, and people were moved around to different different positions, and uh I
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  wasn't moved. But you know, I continue to supervise the unit that I
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  supervised last week, except I now supervised someone else's units. Well, so
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  basically overnight doing a little consolidating. Huh yes, overnight, my my my
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  responsibility pretty much doubled. My My pay and benefits did not double with it,
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  right of course not. And uh yeah, so twice the work,
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  twice the stress, same old amount of pay. It's kind of like when
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  I went from guest host to full time Host's right, it's exactly it's exactly
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  like that. Yeah, it's such an apt anology, right. Indeed,
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  that's that's two. That's two analogies today they're just right on the head,
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  ye, right on the dose. Yeah. Yeah, how about you,
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  Daniel. Oh, I had to fix the website for those of you even
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  noticed, and went down for like a full day. Yeah yeah, it
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  was just some technical staff, but we finally got it up and running.
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  So that's good. Oh A Wolf wants to know, Scott, are you
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  still at the con and if so, any other panels you plan on scene
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  today. Yes, it's a good question. I will be going to uh
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  no visitors panel at twelve forty five Eastern time, so I'm looking forward to
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  that panel. I will be a visitor at visitors panel. Are you gonna
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  ask any questions? What's that? You can ask her any questions I'm going
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  to ask her. The I'm going to ask her what I've decided is going
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  to be the new a trek Cast question, which is the same question that
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  I asked last time. Terry Farrell is a hot dog of sandwich, and
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  I'm going to ask about Well, last time I asked a year ago,
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  I asked Terry Farrell and Jeffrey Combs, you know the question that you had
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  suggested Daniel, which was had anybody ever you know, put on like a
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  dinner party or potlock or whatever, and who was the best cook? And
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  in that the answer to that question, Nana's name came up, right.
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  And so I'm going to mention that when I go up and ask a question,
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  what you mean? Yes, yes, that's a good idea. So
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  the see the problem with that is that's a normal question, and you can't
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  ask a normal question. No, a normal question. I'm sure she's been
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  asked a thousand times. You know, what's it like working with Avery Brooks?
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  And this is Daniel Came was the one who who you know, sort
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  of gave me this idea about not asking a question that's you know, what's
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  it like to work with Avery Brooks? And you know, in season two,
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  episode four, the Quantum Singularity with you know, don't Yeah, everybody
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  can ask that, Yeah, what did they do? Right? Exactly?
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  So yeah, I think I think a perennial question can be you know about
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  food? Okay? Cool? So oh, Darrell says, what do you
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  guys think the weird stuff Star Trek actors have had to sign? Oh?
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  Man, I imagine all sorts of different things. Wow, that I should
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  like, I've seen people like they'll get their arms signed and then go get
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  that tattooed. Yeah, that's it. That's yeah, that's that's weird.
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  Well, if I ever see you guys again in person, when have you
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  signed signed my bicep and immediately go get it tattooed, I'm gonna do.
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  I'm gonna do like fingerpaint on my hand and I'll put it like a like
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  a pop print right there on there that's great. Yeah, I'm gonna sign
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  my name like I'm a four year old like backwards. Yes, that's great,
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  right, track cast underneath, but I'm gonna write it like track track
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  track cast. Nice. That's good. Well, we're already quite a few
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  INDs, so we should probably get to the news. It Star Trek News
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  all right. So our first news story comes to us from Piety and we
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  got some good news and we got some bad news. It's been making the
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  buzz all around the internet. The world has been picked up for a fourth
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  season, but sadly, Lower Decks will conclude with season five. Boom.
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  Yeah. Yeah. I have seen some debate as to whether this means just
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  Lower Decks is just over and they're just done, or were they canceled?
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  And the reality is we were canceled. So I had a conversation with the
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  guys at the Star Trek booth just a little while ago about that, and
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  things are different now than they were before. You know, you you're just
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  not going to get one hundred and seventy nine episodes. You're not going to
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  get uh seven seasons in the world is streaming. It's do your thing and
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  move on. So yeah, you know the other hand, On the other
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  hand, the Simpsons is in like season thirty seven or Grandfather Yeah yeah,
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  and Grandfather Family Family Guy is in season twenty five or right, But what's
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  the difference between all three of those and New Start Drag They're they're not.
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  I mean, they're both streaming and on terrestrial television. I know this.
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  I know like once a show hits a certain length, I think it's three
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  years, there's certain things that kicked in because of the guild that. Yeah,
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  the you know, people start making more money, and then the longer
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  it goes, the more things kick in. Right. Yeah, that's why
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  Disney changed in Nickelodeon. They changed the name of the show after three or
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  four. Yeah. I was gonna say, it's same thing with the what
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  was that bosh? I guess it's an Amazon Prime show rechanging the name of
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  the show for that same reason because then technically it's a new show. Okay,
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  So can we get middle decks? Why not? As as they get
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  promoted, it makes kind of yeah, they get promoted. I've heard that.
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  I've heard that theory. Let's just do middle decks or you know they
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  yeah, yeah, something like that. But yeah, uh, we did
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  get a We did get a a comment from Jack Quaid on his social media
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  on his Instagram saying that you know, he would love to play Boimler for
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  seventeen years plus. He loves the character, he loves being part of Star
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  Trek. They are hoping to find a new home, so they're going to
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  try, but you know that's not a guarantee. So they need to do
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  a live action crossover again with the twenty fifth century, and I just I
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  need an episode of him in Barkley to oh, yeah, I don't care
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  what they're doing. Yeah, I don't care. I don't care what they
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  They could be helping Barkley's mom move into a new apartment. I don't care.
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  Yes, you know, I need to see that. Or he's like,
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  oh, great uncle Barkley, so good to see you. It's funny,
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  Like I looked at at some of the official Star Trek accounts that we're
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  announcing this change, and almost universally it was that's cool. Uh, look,
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  Stranger World is continuing, but give us our lower decks, so we
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  love lower decks. It can't it cannot cost that much that this is an
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  issue. Like, so you know what, I you know what I find
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  interesting how many seasons of Lower Decks? Yeah, how many seasons of Discovery?
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  Five? Interesting? That's a new normal. Interesting? Does that mean
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  Engine World only gets five and then we're done? No? No, I
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  think Lower Decks. Lower Decks is a sleeper hit, uh, which doesn't
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  cost anything to produce. Uh. Discovery is super expensive and only half well
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  received, and they went the same amount of time because Uh, people wanted
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  Discovery to succeed. It's not as popular as they want. They want us
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  to believe it. Yeah, yeah, it's not. Yeah. But yeah,
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  So that's that's what's going on with with Lower Decks. Also, that
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  was announced this week. We are stop me if you heard this before.
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  We're getting a new Star Trek movie and it's going to be different this time.
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  It's going to be a film generation orally, I don't know. Whatever
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  it's said to be. Can place decades before the two thousand and nine film.
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  I believe this was a show we already had called Enterprise. Yeah,
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  a prequel show to the original series era. Yeah. Interesting. Now,
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  now if they throw a curveball and we get a Star Trek Enterprise movie that
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  ties up those loose ends, I'd be down with that. But they'll never
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  do it because I don't think we want it. I don't, I don't,
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  Yeah, exactly, I don't think that's what we're going to got.
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  The film will be directed by Toby Hayes, who Aines who had directed some
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  episodes of and Or, and then the script will be written by Seth Graham
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  Smith. So there you go. I'm sure this will change five different times
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  before anything happened with Scott Backeller doing right now, he's not doing NCI.
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  I've seen him doing stuff with horses, like just pet and horses and hanging
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  out. Okay, so you know how old was he during Enterprise? How
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  old is he now? Let's set the series that many years after Enterprise.
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  At least have him be part of the story as an admiral showed some of
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  those NX one refit type ships, because that's what would make sense. That's
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  what we want, and that's probably why they're not going to do it.
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  Yeah, A waiting game wants to know are they retcunnying Enterprise or with this
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  feature Captain Archer, We don't know. We honestly do not know. I
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  imagine it's going to be a retcon and not even the Enterprise crew it'll just
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  wipe Enterprise away and it'll be its own thing. Well, they can't use
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  the excuse of the Kelvin timeline because it takes place before the Calvin timeline,
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  right right, that's the other problem. So yeah, Enterprise was the only
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  show that was in both timelines. So yeah, all right, and then
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  our next new story comes from from PC gamer. For those of you who
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  are big Dungeons and Dragons fans, you're luck. Captain Riker is going to
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  be hanging out and playing some D and D later this week on Twitch.
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  I believe it's on Wednesday, it says here in the article. Yeah,
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  oh, Saturday, Saturday, next Saturday, April twentieth him. He will
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  be playing D and D with some start Trek actors, including Captain Liam Shaw
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  will be there as well Dodd Stadgwick. No, yeah, fans here at
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  the Comic Gun, I imagine. So you know, I've only played like
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  twice and yeah, it's fine. In fact, I think there's a bit
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  in the game room. There's a game going on now. Oh really yeah,
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  well yeah, so that'll be live on Twitch. It's it's a charity
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  fundraiser, so that'll be cool to kind of watch them, okay, yeah,
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  and then our last news story comes to us from Space News and we
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  finally have an answer to the age old debate, which is better Star Trek
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  or Star Wars took place at the thirty ninth spaces Ponium. It was judged
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  by former NASA administrator Jim Beiderstein Bredenstein. We had two teams, Team Star
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  Trek and Team Star Wars. The argument was which was better Star Trek's you
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  know, hopeful depictions of the future or Star Wars. There is Star Wars
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  capturing the hero's struggle, and after some rounds of debates, it was deemed
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  that Star Wars was better. Well, I guess you know, we're they're
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  wrong, but that's fine, right, Yeah, absolutely, you know what
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  they say. Opinions are like, hey, holes, everybody's got one.
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  I will say this, most of them think in the story, they put
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  it up on x or whatever, and Star Trek is winning the poll there.
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  So people say that Structurek is better than Star Wars over on social media.
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  So yeah, I'm kind of just tired of that debate me too.
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  They're not the same thing, They're not even similar. Yeah, yeah,
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  well, I hate to quote Alex Kurtzman. But he's the one that said,
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  you know, when they were making the JJ movies, he said,
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  you know, Star Wars was like rock and roll and Star Trek was like
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  classical music. You know which is better that you don't compare rock and roll
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  classical music? Right, yeah, they're both music music. Yeah, absolutely,
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  But yeah, so that's the news stories, all right. Cool,
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  Well then let's get into the main topic. Fun will now comment. So
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  our main topic is we're going to review the third episode of Star Trek Discovery
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  season five. H what was it called, Scott, I know you you
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  had some title. I had to think about what it was about for a
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  while. I'm like, oh, yeah, it's the Trill episode. Oh
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  j Janal Janel. Yeah. I had a little kuffle on my uh on
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  my quick reaction where I said Janel was the name of the ritual in which
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  the former Trill host can interact with the Neutril host via a uh second another
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  person, Well, I was corrected and they said no, Jannal jal or
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  however he pronounced it. He he actually spelt it wrong. The person who
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  corrected me and we had a fun little interaction. He's this is ee,
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  that's right, that's right, touched heads and then they were able to communicate
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  with one of the Trills lives. Yeah, Janeal not Jindall, but Janell
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  is actually the name of the former post. Yeah. Yeah. And so,
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  according to the official log line on Trill, Captain Burnham, Book and
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  Culbert must pass a dangerous test to prove themselves worthy of the next clue.
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  The Deira reconnects with Gray and Crew's first day as an ambassador, just complicated
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  by his engagement to writ Saru uh Saru slept on the couch last night lighted.
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  Here's my review it with crap. Yeah. I mentioned in my quick
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  reaction that I felt like this is the closest thing to a filler episode that
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  we've gotten so far. And yeah, yeah, So I think we started
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  something last year, just on the fly. We started this thing. Say,
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  you know, say one good thing about the episode, and I and
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  I think we should start doing that. Okay, let's do that because because
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  overwhelmingly, you know, not enjoying this, but I can still pick out
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  things to be positive about and I'm just going to do mine right now.
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  Uh. Wilson Cruz's acting ability in this episode. I believed he was a
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  different person watching watching hip. Yeah, so kudos kudos to him. Yeah,
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  he's a great actor. Yeah yeah, yeah. They actually mentioned that
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  on the Will Eaton Show. Oh yeah, I oh sorry, that's kind
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  of I didn't mean to step on your fine to watch it, watch it
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  go ahead. Yeah. Wilson Cruz was on, and he talked about the
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  challenges of you know, he wanted to play it differently than than than Doctor
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  Culbert, so you know, different voice. But it wasn't just a different
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  voice. He had a different swagger, he had a you know, the
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  attitude was different. But yeah, absolutely his acting ability was on point in
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  this episode. Yeah, absolutely, So I said my one positive thing the
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  next thirty four minutes or for you guys, go ahead. I liked the
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  consistency. They obviously watched a couple of Deep Space nine episodes before writing this
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  one, so you know, I like the the symbiots, the symbiotes and
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  the ritual and that kind of thing. Although the ritual wasn't designed for what
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  they did. The ritual was designed as a way for the a new host
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  to sort of say goodbye in person to the old hosts. So but I
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  understand that they you know, they could use this ritual to you know,
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  talk to that host and get some information from that host. Although why you
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  couldn't just talk to the new host m you know, is that your is
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  that your thing that you liked them? Yeah, that that's veiled cop of
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  it. Yeah. Yeah, let's see for me. Oh, go back
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  a couple of pictures. Yeah, I guess one big positive unless you were
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  going to talk about Tilley. Oh no, no, Yeah. I loved
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  her interaction with with commander uh jackass uh apparently who apparently is a commander.
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  I I was wrong, I was wrong. I thought he was being uh
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  a first officer with the captain, just like Saru. But apparently he got
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  demoted. He got demoted. And I love Tillie's uh, you know,
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  kind of standing up for the crew and you know, kind of telling them
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  off a little bit. Yeah, which is you know, that's that's risky
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  for a lieutenant. It's true, that's true. But she's also a lieutenant
• 27:15
  who is a visitor on the ship right now. She is not a regular
• 27:21
  member of the crew, so she is outside of his direct chain of command.
• 27:23
  So yeah, you know, I'm not saying it couldn't have ramifications for
• 27:27
  her later on, but you know, it's not her boss's working somewhere else
• 27:33
  this week. Then then she goes back to academy. Yeah yeah, yeah,
• 27:40
  and she goes back to a show nobody asked for that's right. Oh
• 27:44
  my god, and comments about that, Oh my god. Yeah. See
• 27:49
  for me, you know, I I did like the dynamic with with Ciru
• 27:55
  and and his fiance. I thought that was hilarious. The political going on
• 28:00
  there. That yea. That apparently there is a group of Vulcans who are
• 28:04
  the Bulkan Purists, and they are not happy that she is with somebody who
• 28:11
  is not a Vulcan and so that their relationship could affect them politically for her,
• 28:18
  and I think they need to review their Bulcan eat it. Yeah,
• 28:21
  exactly right. Yeah, infinite diversity and infinite combinations indeed indeed. But uh
• 28:30
  yeah, that whole dynamic was pretty fun. I also did, like,
• 28:33
  I'll give a second bonus. I like the snake dude just chilling there.
• 28:38
  A group commander or whatever he was, he commander. We've seen him before,
• 28:45
  they've been on they were in early episodes of TNG. If I'm not
• 28:48
  mistaken, because I'm pretty sure I have a an action figure of one of
• 28:56
  those guys. Yeah, you do. I just like that they're that they're
• 29:00
  doing basically an Indiana Jones plotline, and they brought in a snake, which
• 29:07
  would not be you know, Indy would not be happy, but yeah,
• 29:11
  I thought that was. Indy would also be the first one to say,
• 29:15
  we have personal transporters. Why aren't we just beaming over there? Why are
• 29:18
  we walking? Where are we walking through this canyon? Yeah? Well they
• 29:23
  did say that. He just wouldn't give him the coordinates. Okay, but
• 29:30
  even though okay, so we're walking in that direction. Yeah, that general,
• 29:34
  let's just let's just beam one hundred yards in that direction, right,
• 29:38
  instead of taking all day for this, right. I don't know, Oh
• 29:49
  my god, Jakes, why did it have to be snakes? So we
• 29:56
  had a I don't know if he was the bar to under he was pouring
• 30:00
  a drink. He was also wearing a star Fleet uniform. But we but
• 30:04
  we saw Ferengi Ah pouring a drink of what looked like Slugo cola. So
• 30:12
  so it didn't just look like slug cola. I paused it and it was
• 30:17
  cola. So it's nice to see that that you know, whether whether it's
• 30:23
  Pepsi, Coca cola, McDonald's whatever they're going to survive into the thirty second
• 30:30
  century, those those trademarked products. Yeah, that was that was a fun
• 30:36
  callback. So do you think it's one of those things where because you know
• 30:42
  the way they describe slugo colas like slimy, you know, slug juice.
• 30:49
  Do you think it was there because this was a Ferengi drinking it? Or
• 30:56
  do you think slugo cola in the thirty second century is like sushi is now?
• 31:04
  Where fifty years ago if you told an American about sushi, they would
• 31:10
  recoil, But now it's kind of an accepted thing that most people have tried.
• 31:18
  So do you think there's there's earth, there's terrans walking around drinking slugging
• 31:25
  one back, slugging back a slug o cola? Okay, let me answer
• 31:29
  first. Can I get a Can I get a jacket slugo please? I
• 31:33
  think the answer is no. I think it's one or two warning warning NERD
• 31:37
  alert, NERD alert? How does that get a NERD alert? He talk
• 31:44
  about the logo cola come out. I think that you know, here and
• 31:51
  now in our reality we have romulan ale beer is it romulin ale, No,
• 31:57
  it's not. It's beer. It's been modified to you know, so
• 32:01
  that humans can consume it. Same thing with it. You can buy cleingon
• 32:05
  blood wine online. But it's probably not fermented, you know, the fermented
• 32:10
  blood of you know, targ If your enemy is a nap of valley grape,
• 32:21
  then yeah, I suppose that's true. So I think it's a verse.
• 32:23
  I think it's like a slugo I mean can't. Yeah, I think
• 32:28
  it's like a humanized version of it. M probably probably maybe it's both.
• 32:34
  Maybe they got both. Maybe they got slug cola, they've got Slugo cola,
• 32:37
  the you know, the original. I was gonna say, maybe it's
• 32:42
  like roop beer. You know, first you hate it, but then you
• 32:43
  see keep drinking it, and the more you drink it. Yeah, it's
• 32:49
  just one of those things. I wouldn't be surprised if the Frankie put some
• 32:52
  sort of addictive chemicals into it. Of course, now you just have to
• 32:55
  have your slug Slugo colon now, which fentanyl, that's right, original Cocaineley's
• 33:06
  to u slug Yeah, yeah, So what's going on with these two?
• 33:12
  They broke up. They broke up. Why because they having him together wouldn't
• 33:20
  further either one of their stories. Uh, because it's the fifth season some
• 33:24
  why not it's gonna end as well. I don't think a lot of people
• 33:30
  are digging the Trills character. And you know, he doesn't need to be
• 33:37
  part of the story. He's doing his thing on on Trill. Well,
• 33:42
  they basically have written him out already, so might as well, yeah,
• 33:45
  break him up? And uh yeah yeah, and I can't remember what what's
• 33:52
  their name? The short haired de Yeah, I think a deer's character is
• 33:58
  a little more I don't know when when you have two characters, ones like
• 34:02
  confident and kind of sure of themselves and the other ones a little you know
• 34:07
  not. I think the one that's not is a little more interesting to tell
• 34:10
  a story about. You know, this this show just not to keep dumping
• 34:17
  on Discovery, but it just it does not h It doesn't keep my attention
• 34:24
  like at all. I just rewatched this series over the last few weeks,
• 34:30
  and I'm watching this the other night and I had to think, for a
• 34:32
  minute, wait, which one of them has the slug in their belly at
• 34:37
  this point? You know, like I had forgotten that it didn't bounce it
• 34:42
  around a little bit. Well it bounced around, and then I'm like,
• 34:45
  oh yeah, no, no, no, Gray is a robot, right,
• 34:46
  yeah, great, all of that. Yeah, I just watched that
• 34:52
  would Yeah, all of it's just gone. So can we cash in the
• 35:00
  second half of the season and get like another half a season of Lower Decks?
• 35:07
  Can we get credit? Can we get a store credit? Sir,
• 35:12
  I'd vote pick something out later. Just give me a store credit. Cool.
• 35:19
  Paul just doesn't even watch anymore. I don't even get the torrents.
• 35:24
  Dude. There were people in our people watch it for free. There were
• 35:30
  so many people who said they were going to cancel their paramount subscriptions just because
• 35:35
  Lower Decks is going away. Yeah, it's crazy. You we'll see if
• 35:40
  people really do it, you know, you know what, you know,
• 35:43
  it's funny. I kind of like this idea of following up on this storyline
• 35:52
  with the uh what do we call them? The progenitors? Oh? Yeah,
• 35:59
  and y. But here's the worst part. It doesn't have to be
• 36:02
  eight hundred years later to do this story. They could do this story in
• 36:07
  the twenty fifth century. They could do it thirty five years later, and
• 36:12
  the story would be exactly the same, except it would be in an era
• 36:16
  that everyone wants to see continued. It would have characters who were part of
• 36:22
  the original story because they're still around, right, it just seems like another
• 36:28
  misstep. No, you're absolutely right. So my question was, though this
• 36:36
  Progenitor's device, but they think it is. How is it different from the
• 36:39
  Genesis device. Didn't they touch on that a little bit in the episode where
• 36:46
  they said, you know, it's got a great power to create and would
• 36:50
  also have a great power to destroy. That's why it can't end up in
• 36:52
  the wrong hand. Yeah, so yeah, maybe it is. Maybe they're
• 37:00
  seed spreading thing. Was kind of like, continue, tell us about the
• 37:07
  seed spreading things. Yes, what are you doing at This seed spreading Riker
• 37:13
  device is just as dangerous as a Genesis device. That's right. They call
• 37:19
  it the Riker maneuver. Oh lord, we've lost Scott. He's broken.
• 37:30
  He's still all read just like a it's like a long ear sprinkler just going
• 37:37
  all around Daryl Jenesis device plus the Genesis plus now with Riker's seed spreading technology.
• 37:52
  God, there's gonna be another Thomas, another will Yeah, a lot
• 37:59
  of people in a whole civilization uh, change in their ways on how to
• 38:02
  mount to chairdeed, indeed, no, But that was just my question about
• 38:07
  it, like, how is it different, Like we've already had this technology
• 38:10
  or something close. It doesn't seem like it's different. Yeah, do you
• 38:15
  think they'll even mention the difference or not matter? It seems to me that
• 38:21
  some of these writers haven't seen previous versions of Star Trek. So, I
• 38:25
  mean, but they brought up the Genesis device and the card in the in
• 38:31
  that Easter egg, it was there was like a miniature version of it,
• 38:35
  yep son, And some of these are the same writers. Yeah, yeah,
• 38:42
  so I guess it just depends on if they were sober or not.
• 38:45
  Right, right, So don't drink and write people? Or do or do
• 38:52
  drinking? Right? Yeah? What are the two? Yeah? Indeed?
• 39:00
  But yeah, So we got another episode next week. I don't have it
• 39:02
  to tell you what the title will be, but we're on our way to
• 39:07
  another clue, you know, National Treasury continues in space. So maybe I'm
• 39:16
  just lost. What are these clues that they're looking for? Why are they
• 39:20
  gallivanting around looking for these what are the things? There's like five things that
• 39:24
  that have to fit together. Well, what are they? Yeah, from
• 39:30
  what I understand, it's like a map. They need all the parts of
• 39:32
  the map, just like in Star Wars that the yeah, the Rise of
• 39:38
  Skywalker. She's like that map. You know, it's gonna suck where they
• 39:43
  find, Like the last episode, they find the fifth piece. They put
• 39:45
  it together and it reprogrammed somebody's tricorder to emit a holographic message, and it's
• 39:50
  just like Part two. Yeah, the female female message said, oh you
• 39:54
  found Part two. Well, I just wanted to This is a recipe for
• 39:58
  biscuits. Actually it's the same, it's the same recording. Yeah, just
• 40:06
  again, I wonder, I wonder if to bring back that actress. I
• 40:10
  know she's in her eighties right now, but and they have shown holographic footage
• 40:15
  of her. But you know, you know what always disappointed me is that
• 40:22
  that actress, that actress her name is, uh, I think it's that
• 40:29
  actress. Her name is I think it's pronounced Salome Gens. And she is
• 40:35
  the same actress that played the female changeling on Deep Space nine. And they
• 40:39
  look pretty much the same. So and even watching Deep Space nine, Yeah,
• 40:49
  watching Deep Space nine, uh, you know I made that connection and
• 40:52
  thought to myself. You know, are the Founders the progenitors or did the
• 40:59
  progenitors all also make the founders? Was that the first species they created and
• 41:05
  that's why they look like that, like they evolved into the Founders. Well,
• 41:09
  the Founders did say they originally were solids, right, Maybe there's something
• 41:15
  there. And Chasmins says that that actress has died. I thought I checked
• 41:22
  recently and I didn't think she was dead. But I checked IMDb, which
• 41:24
  is not always super accurate, but that kind of stuff or updated quickly.
• 41:28
  Yeah, I'm going to look it up right now. I I don't know
• 41:37
  what that device is that they're trying to build, Like I think it's a
• 41:39
  map. Maybe it's a key, like you build the map and then but
• 41:44
  what's the end game? What's the end device? It seems like they're looking
• 41:45
  for the like you said before, the Genesis devices. It seems like they're
• 41:50
  trying to find a progenitor organic version of the Genesis device. I can't think
• 41:55
  of anything else it would be. I'll show you what it's going to be
• 41:58
  at the end. Yeah, go ahead. She's eighty eight years old and
• 42:01
  she is still with us. Okay, okay, uh because of how subtle
• 42:07
  they were with with we need to all be together and be friends. That's
• 42:12
  what it's going to be. At the very end, they're gonna make friends
• 42:14
  with the Body and Clyde group. They're gonna work together to find the the
• 42:19
  Progenitor's device, and the magic will be friendship. Okay, all right?
• 42:27
  That that that's the one thing that can terror form an enemy into a friend
• 42:30
  and and destroy arguments and bring people together. That's that should be our Christmas
• 42:37
  card, right there is our face superposed that the power of friendship, the
• 42:42
  power power friendship. Okay, with their powers combined, with their powers combined,
• 42:47
  Yeah, they are Captain Progenitor, that's right. And then and then
• 42:51
  we'll have a pot luck and we'll get Don Forrino come out and he'll say
• 42:54
  it's all about family, and they'll drive off in their and their eclipses and
• 43:00
  yeah, it'll be great. Okay. How about Uh? One thing I
• 43:05
  want to touch on too, is they mentioned in the episode that the the
• 43:09
  worms only live eight hundred years. Yeah, so you know what that means.
• 43:17
  I thought they'd be pretty mtal right, that is dead. Yeah,
• 43:24
  I thought it was. It was the symbi. It has to go to
• 43:29
  a new host within like a short window, and if they don't, then
• 43:34
  the symbian can die. Right, But I guess there's nothing to say that
• 43:37
  the symbion, which is a is an organic being just like you know,
• 43:43
  they also have a life span. They're you know, right, and they
• 43:45
  and they also need to reproduce. So when does that happen? Do they
• 43:51
  go do they go back in the pond between home? I hope so to
• 43:54
  do a little because the alternative is gross. Put two. I mean,
• 44:01
  they either do it in the pond or they do it in the host.
• 44:06
  Mm hmmm mm hmm, like the host has two symbios for a little while.
• 44:10
  Because it'd be best not to dwell on such thoughts, Dan, let's
• 44:15
  let's some things are better left to the imagination, all right. All I'm
• 44:22
  saying is they got to spread their seat as well. So yeah, I
• 44:28
  mean you're at like a dinner party out of affet and all of a sudden,
• 44:30
  you know, your stomach just goes and you're like, oh, it's
• 44:34
  mating season, my twin symbiots. I'm drinking all this slugo because you know,
• 44:43
  For three, I do like that they made the spots, you know,
• 44:49
  like like fingerprints, like all different that that's an interesting development. That's
• 44:53
  so while we're while we're dwelling on uh weird and uncomfortable to imagine and trill
• 45:00
  thing. Yes, so I'm sure the first trill joining did not occur uh
• 45:08
  via C section right. I was just thinking about that. So what's the
• 45:14
  point of entry for a natural? Well, why don't you count with me
• 45:19
  all the possibilities dank, I'll I'll put my finger up when you name one,
• 45:25
  and let's see if we get to about six or seven. I think
• 45:29
  uh, I think everybody picked up what I put down. I think you
• 45:31
  need much like much like a romulent home, the real entrances in the back
• 45:37
  back, that's what it is. A wolf wants to know. Janet Reno
• 45:45
  or Jet Reno ever got her her chips during her interview. I hope later
• 45:52
  on she did. Yeah, I hope. So the best part of the
• 45:55
  show so be able to get whatever the hell she wants. I would love
• 46:00
  to show where she's the captain just giving alien absolutely yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 46:09
  Darrell says it's a bass huger. That's maybe. Do you see that?
• 46:15
  Uh? That that fan theory that the the Paul Race were the Mirror
• 46:21
  Universe prophets. Mm hmm, I did not. Yeah, that's interesting.
• 46:31
  I like that idea. Okay, yeah, ask uh ask Nona. Yeah
• 46:38
  sure sure, she'll just like shrugging like of course, yeah whatever. Yeah,
• 46:47
  what do you want them to be, sir? Yeah, yeah,
• 46:55
  I'm hoping for. Since this will be the last season of Lower Decks,
• 47:00
  I'm hoping for Mirror Universe Lower Decks. That'd be fantastic if they do like
• 47:05
  a one off episode like they always do, do it in the Mirror Universe.
• 47:08
  Yeah, that'd be fantastic. Yeah, I just had an idea we
• 47:15
  should do a Mere Universe episode of Trek Cast. Would we could have it
• 47:24
  coincide with the next if they do another Mirror Universe, we could have it
• 47:29
  be like a segment. We could start the show as a Mer Universe Trek
• 47:31
  Cast Okay, and if they we can have it coincide with like a Mere
• 47:37
  Universe episode if they do on Yeah, I see that Dan's gears are turned.
• 47:43
  Well, you know, I already have facial hair, So how would
• 47:45
  I differentiate myself from you? No, you have to shave the sides you'd
• 47:52
  have to do we'd have to do just go tas No, I would do
• 47:53
  the riker. They would just come off and want I would peel. I
• 47:57
  would peel them all, feel right off? Wait already, I like mirror.
• 48:02
  That's a great idea. That's right, you know, you know what
• 48:07
  mirror truck cast is. Uh. All the bumpers work, the timing is
• 48:12
  right, that's right, Daniel, a diehard disco fan, fully scripted.
• 48:17
  That's right. The beards come off, yeah, Daniel, Daniel's a gun
• 48:24
  toting Marlboro smoking that's right. Star Wars shirt. Yeah, I'll have to
• 48:36
  go get an affliction t shirt. Yeh yeh oh, yeah, you may
• 48:43
  have to do this someday. That would be a you know, it'd be
• 48:45
  a great April fools all. There you go, there you go. Yeah,
• 48:52
  all right, anything else to talk about this episode? Or yeah,
• 48:59
  I think we're pretty much upset it. Yeah, okay, Daniel suddenly a
• 49:04
  huge football fan. Absolutely Scott weak beard. There you go. Yeah,
• 49:13
  it's old patch. I could either shave it off or I could just make
• 49:15
  it real real short. Oh no, really thin Do you like the like
• 49:21
  the color me bad box type? Oh? There you go? Yeah,
• 49:27
  Well I want to get a boy like the curled up Okay, whirl my
• 49:31
  mustache mustache that it's ad evil strong beard. I like it. Everyone hates
• 49:40
  Paddington. Yeah, my son just said randomly. He's like, I want
• 49:47
  to see Paddington too. I'm like, okay, yeah, my my twelve
• 49:52
  year old and something he said a week ago. And this his relationship to
• 49:58
  the Star Trek is he's watched the Nickelodeon one, but he never watches the
• 50:05
  other ones. He's vaguely aware that I do a podcast. He out of
• 50:08
  the blue, he just looked at me and said, I want to meet
• 50:12
  the guys from truck Cast. Oh really, I'm like, okay, Well,
• 50:16
  someday when we do another in person meet up, I'm like yeah,
• 50:22
  or maybe I'll have him come on before we start recording. He's a little
• 50:27
  bit shot. So which part of him should I sign so that he can
• 50:30
  have it have it tattooed? Yeah? Four arm? You know, forty
• 50:37
  years later, somebody's like, what's that. My dad used to sit in
• 50:40
  his van with a guy and talk about Star Trek and that guy wrote on
• 50:45
  my arm, so I had it tattooed. Well, no, he's going
• 50:47
  to say, oh, this is a tattoo of Dan Lobardo's signature, and
• 50:51
  he's like the the executive producer of you know, Stark Exchanging World season season
• 50:57
  twenty one. Yep, that's him one, the very one. Yeah,
• 51:02
  all right, well let's get to listener feedback. Then we've got people waiting
• 51:12
  listener feedback. Listen our feedback, listener feedback. So une but we did
• 51:22
  get a lot of feedback I put on these social media's how do you feel
• 51:25
  about lower decks getting canceled? And yeah, man, it is just people
• 51:30
  are not happy. Aran total bs Dan said, don't talk to me,
• 51:37
  I'm pissed off. Yeah, people are not happy about this. So that
• 51:43
  is basically the prevailing sentiment all across social media, not just Towers but any
• 51:47
  like official star Trek one. That's what I've seen as well. So can
• 51:52
  we just take a minute to acknowledge uh Terran's post in the group of the
• 51:59
  full body. Yeah that looks like the arch from the Halid deck. Yeah
• 52:07
  yeah, you know, since yeah, trekcass is a public group. People
• 52:09
  can people can you know, share things to it, They could share things
• 52:15
  from it, they can comment on it even though they're part of the group.
• 52:17
  But you know, the admins we get to notice every time somebody tries
• 52:22
  to comment on one of these things, and that post blew up. I
• 52:24
  was approven like one hundred comments a day, same thing for like three or
• 52:30
  four days, three or four days straight. Yeah this yeah, yeah,
• 52:35
  it's got like hundreds of comments, over four hundred comments, over eight thousand
• 52:39
  likes, over four hundred shares. I mean, this thing just went everywhere.
• 52:44
  Man. I was just surprised by how many people recognized it as the
• 52:50
  arch from the Holidack. You know. I would click on some of these
• 52:52
  people's profiles and look at them, and they weren't you know, they weren't
• 52:57
  straight up Trek nerds. They were like regular people, regular people in there
• 53:00
  just saying computer program, that's right. So I thought that was It's it's
• 53:05
  just funny sometimes what blows up and goes viral. People, what's that,
• 53:10
  Daniel. It's almost like people see star Trek. Yes, yes, yes,
• 53:15
  yeah, yeah, all right, let's bring that Chazz. Busy's waiting,
• 53:20
  so there he is. Hey, Hey, it's so weird without official
• 53:25
  here, man, I'm not used to it. I'm really growing it.
• 53:28
  So okay, all right, just don't grow it too much, that's right.
• 53:31
  Yeah. So well maybe I'm married Chazz, so yeah, because I'm
• 53:37
  a strong beard, I have a beanie on. I don't have my hat
• 53:40
  on, so that's true. Could be married Chazz, so it could be
• 53:46
  the episode what's the password? Yeah, Jeordie you sent me? All right?
• 53:51
  Yeah, there you go. That's a deep cut. That's a deep
• 53:54
  deep cut. We've not brought that up in a long time. No,
• 53:59
  Yeah, I saw somebody on the group trying to promote something that was like
• 54:05
  they didn't say it, you know. Yeah, yeah, because you can
• 54:08
  see when they joined the group and everything, and you're like, oh,
• 54:10
  you just joined the group a couple of days ago, So yeah, trying
• 54:14
  to promote something, So any for anyone out there who's newer. Sometimes if
• 54:17
  somebody pops in and uh, they'll try to capitalize on the popularity of the
• 54:24
  group or the show and promote their own thing. We'll sometimes ask them,
• 54:29
  hey, who sent you and the answer the answer is Geordie sent me,
• 54:32
  So feel free to feel free to use that. If there's one thing we
• 54:37
  we like at Treck Cast, it's confronting each other and challenging each other,
• 54:43
  say you don't belong here. Yeah, I love it. I watching listening
• 54:54
  still re listening to the podcast, and I just got to the episode where
• 55:00
  it was just after we all met in Chicago. Oh really, so yeah,
• 55:06
  fun, I look at our numbers, right, it is wild how
• 55:09
  many people listen to all his past episodes? Oh really yeah, like all
• 55:14
  the time. It's it's kind of crazy. I probably need to do it.
• 55:17
  Well. The bad thing is you guys reviewing Discovery. I might listen
• 55:23
  to the Mandalorian once. My wife goes how many people listen to track casts?
• 55:30
  How big is this podcast? And I'm like, I don't know.
• 55:32
  Twelve fifteen at least, I don't know. The three of us is Yeah,
• 55:39
  tens of people made more than the originals. We're getting close if we
• 55:46
  Yeah, yeah, I think you're almost there maybe, which is impressive.
• 55:52
  So yeah, because that's as episode what Daniel three ninety I think. But
• 55:58
  there's supplemental gets supple mentals too. So you guys are getting close. Yeah,
• 56:04
  you're doing it. You're not off for two years and come back for
• 56:09
  a week every now and then what happened to cast as back on your feet
• 56:15
  again? Like two years later they stopped listening. Then after a year they
• 56:20
  come back and like, who the is this guy. Yeah there. Weird
• 56:25
  now is we get emails every now and then of people who would be like,
• 56:29
  oh, like you're should and I went back, who are those other
• 56:30
  guys? Yeah, o G they're the progenitors of this pod, the t
• 56:40
  O s. Yeah, so what would that make me? Oh you're oh
• 56:46
  you went away on a sorry I will you know, everybody just bandished for
• 56:55
  a second. You know who you know who you are? You are ensign
• 57:00
  row. You show up fourth or fifth season, you're around for a while,
• 57:06
  you become a serious regular, but next season you will betray us.
• 57:10
  You know. When I first started you you kind of like and beat to
• 57:15
  war, And I think I like that one a little better. Yeah.
• 57:17
  I imagine one of these days he's gonna take off his shirt and there's gonna
• 57:21
  be a Stargate shirt underneath. The same dog is back, there's a dog
• 57:25
  outside another that's to say, what, Okay, okay, at least you're
• 57:30
  not broccoli, So you're gonna sleep with Yeah? Wow, Yeah, if
• 57:38
  I was in I guess I would. But that's okay, I didn't remember
• 57:42
  who I was. Okay, that's fine. Your wife might be jealous,
• 57:45
  so yeah a little bit. Yeah, but this episode uh. I called
• 57:52
  it trails and pro generators because spell check can't spell janitors. So yeah,
• 58:01
  so and they're finding these clues way too easily, like they can solve it
• 58:08
  and they know they can pinpour in it on the plane. Yeah yeah,
• 58:13
  it's like, I don't know, they need something in between to make it
• 58:16
  more exciting, because right now it's kind of this was definitely the final thing
• 58:22
  is going to be? Is it basically the totally disappointss that Michael Burnan has
• 58:29
  to destroy the device because it's gonna ruin everything? So what if the only
• 58:36
  what if the only safe place for this device is eight hundred years in the
• 58:40
  future, so they have to take the wait a minute, never mind,
• 58:45
  Yeah, everyone, we're going to the fortieth century. Yeah yeah, yeah,
• 58:58
  good good. They want the whole world to be at peace, right,
• 59:01
  the whole universe, so they can release this device. But now you're
• 59:07
  rebuilding the Federation and all these planets and you're trying to get everybody back together
• 59:10
  again. And I would say the world's unstable right now. Yeah, that's
• 59:19
  true because you're going to start up at war. You know, they're even
• 59:22
  mentioned the brain and they mentioned some of the other stuff and you have this
• 59:25
  whole wedding that they're telegraphing that either the President or Seru is going to die
• 59:30
  at the wedding. So something's going to happen at the wedding. Yeah,
• 59:35
  that's all I got to say. We had mentioned what last episode or a
• 59:37
  couple of them back, that Suru is going to die, but now I'm
• 59:42
  wondering will the president die? Yeah? That's what. Yeah. Oh that
• 59:50
  would be a horrible and it could be one of those vulcans that kills her,
• 59:53
  you know. Oh, you know what, there might be barrier.
• 1:00:00
  What does God need with a spore drive? If she meets shot? I'd
• 1:00:08
  give the episode a couple of points. So the shot her God, Yeah,
• 1:00:17
  he's the you know you mentioned the president dying of Navarre. I don't
• 1:00:22
  think that's gonna happen, but it it does make me think they might have
• 1:00:25
  like a kidnapping episode later on. Yeah, so that'll be a and then
• 1:00:34
  that we're gonna get. Yeah, actually episode what was the Air Force one?
• 1:00:39
  Movie? Told you to get off my plate? Get Yeah, somebody
• 1:00:49
  who wrote these episodes definitely watched The Mummy. Yeah, Indiana Jones, every
• 1:00:53
  every mystery, oh yeah, thing it's gonna be like the end of a
• 1:01:00
  Last Crusade where you see the night with the Chalice, and then she's gonna
• 1:01:02
  have to find the chalice which one should you drink? And the mean commander
• 1:01:08
  drinks it and he dies because he wants all the power. And then so
• 1:01:14
  late last year we had the reports that Nicholas Cage really wanted to be in
• 1:01:16
  Star Trek. Right, Oh please don't, no, no, I did,
• 1:01:28
  I could. I like your idea. A waiting game is asking about
• 1:01:36
  for continuity if they still care about that, doesn't the Discovery have to be
• 1:01:38
  destroyed? Uh? No, Discovery has to survive because there was a short
• 1:01:46
  trek that showed it in the future without the crew abandoned. Yeah. Yeah,
• 1:01:54
  and the world was all messed up too because they had no idea what
• 1:01:58
  the Federation was anything else. Remember, Yeah, Discovery is going to get
• 1:02:02
  destroyed at the end of this series, or they're going to find a way
• 1:02:07
  to bring into my celing the Mushroom Network as part of the storyline, Like
• 1:02:12
  you know, maybe they need to put the do Me Favor my CeAl my
• 1:02:17
  Mushroom Network. I love what someone recognizes, recognizes their own limitation and immediately
• 1:02:27
  adapts the Mushroom Network my there you go, there you go, Hey,
• 1:02:36
  Scott, can you can? It's Scott, can you get my cial?
• 1:02:40
  You know, it's really funny. I don't know if we've we've brought this
• 1:02:44
  up, but it seems like we have potentially. But you know, Stammett's
• 1:02:47
  on the show is named after a real life my CE expert. He looks
• 1:02:54
  like a mushroom expert. Yeah. Yeah, wow, look at those mushrooms.
• 1:03:02
  Yeah, and he takes mushrooms too, so he's probably kind of out
• 1:03:07
  there. He's really tripped. He's trip balls, guys, He's he's tripped
• 1:03:12
  a bit. Forgot that. You'll see some weird stuff. So tell yeah,
• 1:03:22
  I've got a mushroom story. I can't tell it on here. Okay,
• 1:03:29
  yeah probably it's Yeah, it gets pretty crazy. So what did mal
• 1:03:38
  take at the end? Oh? Because remember she goes up to uh touches
• 1:03:50
  their arm. Yeah, you put a put she put a spiky tracery tracer.
• 1:03:55
  Yeah, they had a clip from the show app that's right, it's
• 1:04:01
  the new one. Yeah. I want to know, like, who's who's
• 1:04:04
  paying mall and this other guy and why are they so smart? Like somebody
• 1:04:09
  has to be paying them because they're don't give away. The Federation didn't just
• 1:04:14
  try to buy them off, like Okay, yeah, give us this thing,
• 1:04:17
  We'll give you money and go away. Yeah. Something that they're motivated
• 1:04:21
  by money, just do that, Yeah exactly. It's like, what's motivating
• 1:04:27
  them to continue this quest? Yeah, something we don't know about Cleveland Booker.
• 1:04:34
  Yeah, there's there's a deeper connection with the bicker. Maybe she's going
• 1:04:41
  to get back if she gets that device, if it can bring back life.
• 1:04:45
  That's the only thing I could think of. Yeah, okay, And
• 1:04:48
  what do you think of the giant fly or whatever they fought? Oh yeah,
• 1:04:53
  yeah, yeah, yeah, the super animal that can go invisible and
• 1:04:57
  the cloaking dragon. I don't worry. I've left this clicking dragon here for
• 1:05:01
  eight hundred years. Nobody on this planet as we sounded, and no one
• 1:05:08
  years. I grew up. I grew up in a a in a county
• 1:05:13
  adjacent to the one that I'm living in. And you know, I only
• 1:05:17
  get back on that side of the river once every few months, right,
• 1:05:23
  And I'm constantly driving through there going oh, oh they built that, Oh
• 1:05:29
  they're knocked down the such and such. Oh, there's here now yeah.
• 1:05:32
  Yeah, yeah, and that's like eight weeks, not eight hundred years.
• 1:05:41
  Yeah, you know, the the idea that this completely undeveloped valley will still
• 1:05:46
  be a completely undeveloped valley and this stone will be right here for me to
• 1:05:50
  move this rock on top of it and take this thing. Come on.
• 1:05:54
  Yeah, so you're saying, no hikers, nothing has been all these years,
• 1:06:00
  even the hiking trail, even squatters would stay there probably, So yeah,
• 1:06:05
  that creature was interesting. They talked about that on the Will Whaitt and
• 1:06:09
  Shoe too and how you know, making that and reacting to it. Yeah,
• 1:06:13
  and they just kept telling the actors, you know, look at this
• 1:06:15
  point up and they the directors kept saying, no, no, look higher,
• 1:06:18
  look higher, it's taller, look higher. So yeah, so it
• 1:06:24
  was it lethal weapon? Uh? Are we going on three? Or is
• 1:06:28
  it one? Two? Three? Go? Was that lethal weapon? I
• 1:06:30
  think? So? Yeah? Ok? Yeah was it? I Yeah,
• 1:06:33
  I liked that little interaction. I didn't I didn't realize it was yeah,
• 1:06:38
  No, that's right. Yeah, I liked it in nineteen eighty six when
• 1:06:41
  it was Riggs and myrtog but yeah, Rigs, yeah, three year three,
• 1:06:48
  But I do like when they let him be characters a little bit,
• 1:06:50
  you know, you know what you know. That was another thing I did
• 1:06:54
  like about this episode is we got to learn a little bit about the crew
• 1:06:58
  and just some other and yeah, a little bit. That was what.
• 1:07:01
  You know. What's funny is you don't have Debt mar or a washingcoon or
• 1:07:05
  whatever her name is. Yeah, those two and they've been on almost every
• 1:07:11
  episode and you've barely seen him this season, right, Nielsen is gone.
• 1:07:16
  She went to the voyager, that's right, Yeah, what was it?
• 1:07:21
  Even the lady that had the thing in her mouth? She's staying with another
• 1:07:27
  like her people. But then in another episode she came back to UH as
• 1:07:32
  a checks and balances for yeah, for Michael, and then she went back
• 1:07:36
  to whatever special ops things she was doing, right hyperpop back in kind of
• 1:07:45
  like that character. Yet it was a good character, yeah her And I
• 1:07:50
  really like jet Reno. I think jet Reno is hilarious. So yeah,
• 1:07:56
  they need to pay her whatever she's characters in the last season better than never
• 1:08:00
  exactly, yeah, or right before they die, right before they die.
• 1:08:05
  Yep. I think they need to do a spin off on lower decks.
• 1:08:10
  So since it's ending, like keep the Cartoon World do a spin off.
• 1:08:15
  Maybe they're upper deckers, so do lower deck spiders. Can't call it upper
• 1:08:25
  deckers. Yeah, but I think we came up with a good idea of
• 1:08:30
  the show Middle deckers. Yeah, the lieutenants of the of whatever starship.
• 1:08:38
  Yeah, because if they get a new ship, you know, it could
• 1:08:41
  be crappier than the Serritos. That's true, having them all together and they
• 1:08:45
  do their own missions because now they're he'd like to see an actual garbage scale,
• 1:08:50
  Yes, why not? Why not? It's like, let's let's do
• 1:08:57
  something fun up this next season of lower decks like this is I don't know
• 1:09:03
  that one makes me mad because I actually like that show, and they shouldn't,
• 1:09:09
  you know what, put that same crew in different different timelines in Star
• 1:09:12
  Trek and just different lower decks, Like now we have a TG lower deck,
• 1:09:15
  now we have a Coos lower deck crew. It'd be great. Now.
• 1:09:18
  Yeah, there's a lot they could do with it since it's animated,
• 1:09:23
  right, Well, it's not like they have to rebuild the sets. What's
• 1:09:27
  funny about lower decks, it's the time period we all want to be in
• 1:09:30
  right now, like Star Trek because it's after next gen after D nine and
• 1:09:38
  everything else has been either far into the future or before. We want to
• 1:09:43
  be in that time period. After DS nine, A waiting game wants to
• 1:09:47
  know how did Lower Decks do in terms of streaming? Seems popular to me,
• 1:09:51
  uh with its response accounting where people watching it. Yeah, I mean
• 1:09:58
  it's we don't have hard numbers, right because that's just streaming nowadays, you
• 1:10:00
  don't get numbers right. But but it's seemed popular. I think they need
• 1:10:06
  to syndicate these shows, like they need to put them on Netflix, and
• 1:10:14
  I think that's what's happening. I think I think Paramount Plus is going to
• 1:10:17
  go away. Yeah, that's why they did it indicated, and you know
• 1:10:21
  other people will watch it and see if they like it or not. I
• 1:10:26
  definitely just pick it up and they'll keep doing it, just like they did
• 1:10:29
  with like Cobra Kai. I think that the decision is based on can we
• 1:10:34
  sell this to another streamer? And for whatever reason, I don't think they
• 1:10:40
  see Lower Decks as being profitable to sell to another streamer, Yeah, which
• 1:10:45
  is sad, or maybe they're going to try. I mean that's what Jack
• 1:10:49
  Quaide said. I somebody to get the airplane out with the banner fly over
• 1:10:57
  the studio save Lord all right, Yeah, checked the coffee account. Yeah
• 1:11:03
  exactly. I bought swags. All my money's on the the shirts and the
• 1:11:11
  hat, So there you go. That's next time. I have to donate
• 1:11:15
  to the coffee account. So there's some money in there. Pay for your
• 1:11:21
  streaming service. So there you go. Thank you. You're band with however
• 1:11:27
  much anything else you want to bring up, chest biz, that's it.
• 1:11:32
  I'm I'm just happy to talk to you guys, and hopefully next week we'll
• 1:11:38
  have a better episode and the season will not disappoint. That's all I gotta
• 1:11:43
  say. Just please, don't disappoint us at the end. Yeah, don't
• 1:11:46
  put horses on the Enterprise on the saucers section and they're running with's horses on
• 1:11:53
  the saucers. Ye Star Wars. Yeah, don't don't do that. Okay,
• 1:12:00
  don't make that mistake. Don't make a knife that. Somehow you can
• 1:12:03
  stand in this position and the death stars right there and it matches up,
• 1:12:08
  and you know right perfectly sure you don't want to find out that Michael Burnham
• 1:12:13
  is the clone and yeah, not really important. Okay, what if Michael
• 1:12:16
  Burnham brings out a knife and says made a knife chip and shatter before she
• 1:12:20
  fights somebody. The more deep is she the least? All right, thanks
• 1:12:32
  for beating on Jazvis. All right, thank you, right, all right?
• 1:12:39
  Wow? Yeah, Hey, have you guys been watching Fallout, the
• 1:12:43
  new Amazon show? Okay, no, I have not. I have two
• 1:12:48
  episodes of it. There is a start. Your connection to it, well
• 1:12:54
  is uh. I forget the character's name, but she is the voice of
• 1:12:58
  Gwynn on Prodigy. Oh, okay, okay, there to it. I
• 1:13:06
  had mentioned, uh, sorry, go ahead. I was just gonna say,
• 1:13:10
  I don't know anything about the games, but I'm okay, so I'll
• 1:13:15
  check it out. Well, that's kind of in the spirit of what I
• 1:13:17
  was, you know, a few weeks ago. I'd recommended maybe we could
• 1:13:19
  do recommendations at the end of the show. And I have a recommendation if
• 1:13:24
  anybody wants to hear it, two of them. Actually, I've been watching
• 1:13:28
  the show for all mankind. It's Apple plus the Basic. It's got four
• 1:13:32
  seasons out right now. The basic premise is uh. Season one starts with
• 1:13:38
  the premise is what would have what would the planet had been like had Russia
• 1:13:43
  landed on the Moon? First, and it postulates that it would have begun
• 1:13:47
  a space race that dwarfed the space race that we saw in reality. Uh.
• 1:13:51
  And it jumps ahead about eight to ten years each season, so you
• 1:13:55
  can see the progression. You know, first a go of the Moon and
• 1:13:58
  it's a big deal, and then there's you know, there's a space station
• 1:14:00
  on the Moon, and then and then they go to Mars, you know,
• 1:14:03
  and stuff like that. So it's really good. The other recommendation I
• 1:14:06
  have is on a whim, I watched, Uh, you're familiar with the
• 1:14:12
  Ted movies. Seth McFarland. Okay, so I watched Ted one a couple
• 1:14:16
  of months ago, and I thought it was, you know, funny and
• 1:14:17
  a raunchy comedy. I saw Ted two yesterday just on a whim, and
• 1:14:25
  it's got a ton of Star Trek references. Seth McFarland is a huge Star
• 1:14:30
  Trek fan. In the middle of the movie, the now visitor shows up
• 1:14:35
  for like a two minute scene and it's like, I'm gonna go see here
• 1:14:40
  tomorrow. Yeah, it's it's great. Uh, Michael Dorn's in it.
• 1:14:45
  It's it's fantastic. Great if you're if you're into the like the Ron.
• 1:14:53
  Yeah, and I've seen on TikTok, but I've watching. Yeah, I
• 1:14:58
  haven't watched either. I think I'm gonna wat now that that I've seen Ted
• 1:15:01
  one and TED two. But yeah, there's a ton part of it takes
• 1:15:04
  place at a comic con. Okay, so you know the the d is
• 1:15:12
  there and uh yeah, and yep, it has a kind of a prominent
• 1:15:18
  role. So I was Michael Doran. I'm not going to spoil it,
• 1:15:24
  but Michael Dorn is there and all of his Michael Dorn glory, so it's
• 1:15:30
  amazing how he shows up. That's great, d anything you want to recommend,
• 1:15:36
  I haven't seen it yet, but I'm trying to go see Civil War.
• 1:15:43
  Yeah, I heard it got some pretty good reviews. Unpleasantly. Uh,
• 1:15:49
  I'm not surprised. I was hoping that they would do this the the
• 1:15:54
  catalyst for the Civil War. They don't really give specifics in the movie.
• 1:15:59
  They keep it a political as to not alienate half the people in our country.
• 1:16:03
  So that's good. I kind of knew they were gonna or I kind
• 1:16:06
  of suspected they were going to do that based on the alliance of California and
• 1:16:11
  Texas. That doesn't make any sense in contemporary politics. So yeah, I
• 1:16:18
  asked my wife if she wants to see it. She kind of doesn't,
• 1:16:24
  so I don't know if it's something I want to bring my son to.
• 1:16:28
  So my choices are I'm going to call my dad and see if he wants
• 1:16:31
  to go see it, and then if he's not available, I may just
• 1:16:35
  go see it myself. There's nothing wrong with that. I go all the
• 1:16:39
  time myself. It's fine. I've heard it is not what you think it
• 1:16:44
  is. It's not really about the war. It's more about war journalists and
• 1:16:49
  what they go through. Okay, So yeah, it had been mismarketed in
• 1:16:57
  that respect. All all the more reason my son will probably be bored.
• 1:17:02
  Yeah, bring him to it. It may not be as violent as I
• 1:17:05
  expected, but he'll probably be believe that those guys tend to be not kissed
• 1:17:13
  appropriate. Yeah, it's a dog. There's a dog running by. Welcome
• 1:17:17
  to podcast, everyone, All right, I'm gonna go. I have to
• 1:17:24
  get going. Uh visitors panels in about a half hour. And I also
• 1:17:30
  wanted to say, uh once again to you guys, thank you for having
• 1:17:32
  me on as a as a host and and let me uh fill those shoes.
• 1:17:36
  I mean, I was able to get a press pass for for this
• 1:17:40
  comic con. I've been here for three days, so it's it's been awesome.
• 1:17:45
  So, you know, thanks for this opportunity to so of course,
• 1:17:46
  of course, buddy, we're happy, We're happy to have you. Thank
• 1:17:49
  you. All right, everyone, we'll be back next week. This is
• 1:17:55
  Captain Benjamin Cisco of Deep Space nine and Space God to the Bajorans. I
• 1:18:00
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