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#699 - Kenny Mason on BULLDAWG, Working With JID, Atlanta, Nu-Metal & Conspiracy Theories · The Bootleg Kev Podcast

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Speaker 1: Kenny Mason's here, ladies and gentlemen. We were talking.
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Speaker 2: It's a crazy time in America. Idiocracy. Great movie. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: No, I was saying that all of the crazy shit
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Speaker 1: that gets dumped on us, like, The CIA and the
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Speaker 1: Pentagon will release alien footage in 5K now.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. I think they've done it four times. They've had
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Speaker 2: these file drops.
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Speaker 1: And no one cares.
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Speaker 2: Nobody give a fuck. We've been watching aliens. Alien rollout flop.
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Speaker 1: Well, it's like they've been rolling it out since I
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Speaker 1: was alive and since my parents were alive. I watched
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Speaker 1: Independence Day.
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Speaker 2: Which, by the way, I mean... Rightfully so. I mean,
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Speaker 2: I don't know if... I don't know if... People could
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Speaker 2: handle it if... Well, I just think we desensitized to where, like,
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Speaker 2: aliens ain't really shit. Like, you know what I'm saying?
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Speaker 2: For sure. I think we all think they're already here.
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Speaker 2: The humans on Earth is way scarier. 100%. You know
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Speaker 2: what I'm saying? 100%, man.
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Speaker 1: Well, listen, we have Kenny Mason, who has not been
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Speaker 1: on the show for, I want to say it's been
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Speaker 1: three or four years.
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Speaker 2: It's been a minute. It's been like four, yeah.
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Speaker 1: It's been a minute, man.
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Speaker 2: He's back.
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Speaker 1: You got your new project, Bulldog, out.
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Speaker 2: You're in L.A.
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Speaker 1: Are these your actual bulldogs on the album cover?
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Speaker 2: Nah, these are... These are bulldogs borrowed from a friend.
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Speaker 1: So you borrowed the dogs for the cover?
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Speaker 2: Yes. The main dog on the cover, her name's Sugar.
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Speaker 2: She's a sweetheart. We basically took a bunch of pictures
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Speaker 2: as still as I could get them to be because
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Speaker 2: they was rowdy. And that picture that's the cover just
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Speaker 2: was the one that came out perfect. And she was
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Speaker 2: front and center. She was low-key smiling, so. Well, as
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Speaker 2: a Frenchie owner, I appreciated the cover. I was like,
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Speaker 2: you know, next time if you ever need any other Bulldogs,
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Speaker 2: let me know. Oh, yeah, man. I'll pull up. I
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Speaker 2: got two of them. We'll pull up on y'all and
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Speaker 2: get some nice photos.
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Speaker 1: Explain kind of just the concept and the name and, like,
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Speaker 1: how did you land on Bulldog?
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Speaker 2: It kind of, like, it kind of just came, like,
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Speaker 2: developed on its own. The original, I guess, concept name
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Speaker 2: for the project was Junkyard Dog.
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Speaker 1: Did you have the Junkyard Freestyle in?
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Speaker 2: Exactly. So, you know, the scrapyard, junkyard was the setting of, like,
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Speaker 2: everything taking place narratively in the album. But I think that, like,
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Speaker 2: Bulldog was more of a, it looked better, like, as
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Speaker 2: a word, like, as a title card. For sure. You
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Speaker 2: know what I'm saying?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, junkyard dog.
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Speaker 2: Is, like. It's too much. Yeah. It's a little too much. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: This is, like, technically one word. I mean, obviously, it's
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Speaker 1: two words, but, you know.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. It's smoother. It's smoother. Like, two syllables, you know
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Speaker 2: what I'm saying? So, and then, I mean, I'm from Georgia,
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Speaker 2: so it was already, like... Georgia Bulldogs. Yeah, it was
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Speaker 2: an alley-oop there, and it's very much the setting of
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Speaker 2: the album as well, but I guess the big selling
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Speaker 2: point was kind of, like, how Bulldogs was bred anyway,
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Speaker 2: which was to, like, actually kill bulls. And I just
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Speaker 2: thought that was, like, a fire, like, metaphor for, like,
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Speaker 2: I guess me and my place in the industry, like
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Speaker 2: a David and Goliath type.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, like, you're, like, kind of.
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Speaker 2: the slept on dude, but you're like, you will take
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Speaker 2: down a giant. Oh God.
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Speaker 1: By the way, let's just be clear. The bulldogs he's
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Speaker 1: talking about are not the same ones that are on
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Speaker 1: the cover. Cause French bulldogs are mutant aliens that were
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Speaker 1: bred for, for commerce.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. That's yeah. The OG bulldogs. Well, we got,
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Speaker 2: we got the COVID scammer money Frenchies. That's what the
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Speaker 2: fuck I got at my house. Those things are not yet. Like,
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Speaker 2: Not ethical, bro. No, no, they're not.
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Speaker 1: But like every drug dealer I knew cleaned their shit
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Speaker 1: up during COVID and started fucking breeding Frenchies.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that shit. I mean, being around them give me anxiety.
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Speaker 2: You know, like they'll like walk up the stairs and die.
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Speaker 2: Trust me. I live with them.
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Speaker 1: One sleeps in my bed every night. In my fucking ear.
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Speaker 1: You have animals or no?
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Speaker 2: I got a pit bull terrier. She doesn't live with
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Speaker 2: me because I be traveling too much. But like I
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Speaker 2: raised her up in a pandemic. Oh, dope. Yeah, so
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Speaker 2: I just, I had a roommate during the pandemic, and
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Speaker 2: she went with him, but that's technically, like, you know,
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Speaker 2: my dog. I go see her.
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Speaker 1: You definitely, like, came out of the pandemic swinging. How
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Speaker 1: would you kind of, like, I feel like it's kind
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Speaker 1: of crazy to look back. I mean, it feels like
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Speaker 1: it was, like, nine months ago.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. But for six years later. Yeah, but I feel
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Speaker 2: like none of this count.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's kind of crazy. Like, we really, like, reflect, like,
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Speaker 1: what we went through. A lot of people got depressed.
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Speaker 1: A lot of people were lonely. People weren't leaving the house.
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Speaker 1: You guys were out the fuck side in Atlanta, though.
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Speaker 2: I'll say that. Yeah, we was tripping. Because I had
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Speaker 2: a pork chop at, is it Deja Vu? Probably. I
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Speaker 2: had a pork chop at Deja Vu in the middle
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Speaker 2: of the pandemic in Atlanta. Nah, it was regular. It
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Speaker 2: was even Motown. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because it was like
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Speaker 2: people coming there. Because people would travel to Atlanta to
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Speaker 2: turn up. Like, yeah, everything, especially y'all out here, y'all
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Speaker 2: was coming, like, on here, like, Nah, they opened in Atlanta.
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Speaker 2: I'm going to the strip club.
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Speaker 1: A hundred percent.
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Speaker 2: That was crazy.
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Speaker 1: But I have to say, for you, you felt like
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Speaker 1: you kind of had your shit together coming out of
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Speaker 1: the pandemic. Did it help or hurt your creative process?
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Speaker 1: Because I saw a lot of artists really.
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Speaker 2: Hit a wall. Yeah. I mean, for sure. I think
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Speaker 2: that I definitely had to adapt a little bit to
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Speaker 2: the situation. Lucky for me, I feel like I'm the
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Speaker 2: type of artist that is comfortable recording at home So
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Speaker 2: I was still able to make music and like.
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Speaker 1: And you can record yourself?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure.
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Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like everybody needs to learn.
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Speaker 2: I mean, that's what I did. Like my whole like
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Speaker 2: second project was recorded in a pandemic at home for
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Speaker 2: the most part. You know what I'm saying? So I
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Speaker 2: feel like it was it was easy for me, but
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Speaker 2: it was definitely like a lot of people in my
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Speaker 2: class that just like had like a really high ceiling
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Speaker 2: and then like. we got to be in the house
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Speaker 2: for fucking 10 months. Right. All of a sudden, and
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Speaker 2: it fucked them up. It fucked a lot of people up, man.
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Speaker 2: Even just, like, momentum-wise, you would see people like, and
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Speaker 2: you're like, yo, COVID, man, fucked up that whole thing.
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Speaker 2: Even me, like, I had to adapt to shit, but
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Speaker 2: even me, it was just like, bro, I had hella, like,
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Speaker 2: that first year I popped up, I had hella festivals
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Speaker 2: lined up that all got canceled, hella, like, walkthroughs, just
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Speaker 2: a whole bunch of shit. Like, I'd be thinking about, like,
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Speaker 2: maybe some of the hands I didn't shake or just, like,
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Speaker 2: shit like that.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of people lost out on a lot
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Speaker 1: of money, like, I remember Roddy Ricch was having the
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Speaker 1: craziest 2019 going into the new year, and he had
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Speaker 1: the summer on lock, and all that shit got canceled. Like,
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Speaker 1: all of his festival dates.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Because he had the box. It was the number
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Speaker 2: one song in the fucking world. Biggest rap song. Biggest
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Speaker 2: rap song in the fucking world, and had a crazy
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Speaker 2: festival run to go along with it, and then... I mean, yeah,
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Speaker 2: he still did his thing.
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Speaker 1: No, for sure.
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Speaker 2: But, like, yeah, who knows, like... 100%. Shit. You know
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Speaker 2: what I'm saying? Everything might have looked different had it
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Speaker 2: not happened. But, I mean, I'm the type of person, like,
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Speaker 2: I ain't going to make no excuses. I'm going to
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Speaker 2: go out there and figure this shit out. You know
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Speaker 2: what I'm saying? And I feel like that's why I'm
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Speaker 2: still here.
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Speaker 1: About your synergy with JID, obviously, you know, you guys
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Speaker 1: are both out of the A, but I feel like
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Speaker 1: anytime you guys work together, it's always amazing.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Just talk about that chemistry and, like, that friendship and
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Speaker 1: how did it start and, like, why do you guys
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Speaker 1: think you sound so good together when it comes to
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Speaker 1: making music? It feels so effortless.
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Speaker 2: I feel like Atlanta just speak a certain language, you know?
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Speaker 2: I feel like if you from the city, like really
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Speaker 2: from the city and you know, you grew up seeing
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Speaker 2: some of the things we saw and like growing up,
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Speaker 2: how we grew up, like forced to be an adult,
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Speaker 2: probably like a young age type shit. And you know
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Speaker 2: what I'm saying? Like young black. I mean, we all
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Speaker 2: kind of got put into the same like little archetype
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Speaker 2: is you, you did going to play sports or rap,
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Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying? And I think that like, uh,
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Speaker 2: me and Jed are similar in a sense of like
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Speaker 2: a certain level of awareness. Right. of that situation while still, like,
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Speaker 2: relating to, you know, the people and things going on
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Speaker 2: around us and having the kind of bravery to, I guess,
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Speaker 2: be more lyric forward or, like, you know what I'm saying,
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Speaker 2: conceptually writing in a city that's kind of, like, against that, like,
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Speaker 2: very much, oh, freestyle punching, like, we kind of, like,
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Speaker 2: invented that type of shit.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I feel like the A definitely invented the punching.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so, like, we, like, kind of, like, the in
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Speaker 2: a sense, maybe the antithesis to that, but we still
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Speaker 2: very much Atlanta is fucked. And I feel like he
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Speaker 2: understand that, like, oh, just because I'm, like, lyrical don't
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Speaker 2: mean I ain't got to live this way. Right. You
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Speaker 2: know what I'm saying? And I understand that, too. So
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Speaker 2: I feel like that's where we synergize at. Do you,
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Speaker 2: when you're recording, do you write, are you, like, writing
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Speaker 2: your shit? It's half and half.
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Speaker 1: Or is it punching in?
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Speaker 2: Like, what is your process? It's half and half. It depends,
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Speaker 2: it really depends on the beat and it depends on
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Speaker 2: my mood. Sometimes I punch in a record and it's like, Fun,
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Speaker 2: freestyling is like faster. Like on the Here to Stay
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Speaker 2: record where you're like pretty melodic, the interlude. That's straight freestyling.
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Speaker 2: That's like me.
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Speaker 1: Vibing, humming.
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Speaker 2: We made the beat and I'm like humming melodies as
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Speaker 2: like the beat is being crafted. And I already got
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Speaker 2: like mumbles and stuff and I'm just mumbling until like
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Speaker 2: words come. Yeah. Whereas like a Junkyard freestyle is like
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Speaker 2: I already know what I'm doing.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I already know what I'm going to rap about.
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Speaker 1: to me, for you, man, can you explain... Because.
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Speaker 2: I feel like.
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Speaker 1: You play with a lot of sonics, obviously different genres,
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Speaker 1: but even just, like, I feel like the way you
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Speaker 1: play with your voice or some of the, like, mixing
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Speaker 1: and mastering or some of the filters or some of
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Speaker 1: the EQ, like, how hands-on are you with the engineer
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Speaker 1: when it comes to, like, yo, see what it sounds
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Speaker 1: like if you do it like this?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it might.
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Speaker 1: Because there should be, sometimes, it's, like, a lot.
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Speaker 2: My engineer is my best friend, bro. They, like, engineers,
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Speaker 2: I just want to say to engineers, don't get enough credit.
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Speaker 2: And they like the most kind of, sometimes the most
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Speaker 2: disrespected people in music.
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Speaker 1: I feel like engineers and videographers.
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Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. Yo, videographers, by the way, some of the
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Speaker 2: bravest people, like, they, I mean.
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Speaker 1: Running around in the craziest areas.
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Speaker 2: They like.
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Speaker 1: Got to get the shot.
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Speaker 2: They like the military cameramen. You know what I'm saying? Like,
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Speaker 2: it's like the equivalent.
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Speaker 1: For sure.
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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? We got it, like. But
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Speaker 2: they get the most guns pointed at them.
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Speaker 1: I always see these guys who do these hood vlogs,
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Speaker 1: and I'm always like, well, who's the bruh shooting this
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Speaker 1: shit behind the camera? You know what I mean?
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Speaker 2: There's these guys.
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Speaker 1: Running around with a mic.
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Speaker 2: You got to be on go too.
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Speaker 1: But no, but you're right about the engineer, because I
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Speaker 1: feel like if a good engineer that you have a
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Speaker 1: relationship with should get production credit on a lot of shit,
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Speaker 1: because they're really like.
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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, okay. Yeah. Or like they help.
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Speaker 1: You know, like if it's like, yo, I'll tell you, like,
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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know, you say your engineer's your
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Speaker 1: best friend, but I've seen.
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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, yeah, I got... We locked into a certain,
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Speaker 2: you know, level of, like, yo, like, this is beyond
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Speaker 2: engineering sometimes, you know what I'm saying?
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Speaker 1: For sure.
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Speaker 2: Like, because, like, you, I mean, you crafting a song
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Speaker 2: in a way that is kind of production sometimes. Yeah. Or, like,
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Speaker 2: crafting my voice to do certain things. So it just depends.
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Speaker 2: It's situational, but, like, for sure, like, I mean, just
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Speaker 2: locked in as far as, like, I can establish this
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Speaker 2: sound consistently. And also, like, we can experiment with, like,
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Speaker 2: effects or different, like, I know for me, like, I
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Speaker 2: like to do a lot of shit. I like to
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Speaker 2: stack my vocals. I like to, like, sound like a
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Speaker 2: fucking alien sometimes. For sure. You know what I'm saying?
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Speaker 2: So I'd be willing to be locked in with my engineer.
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Speaker 1: You've worked with, let's see, Freddie, Jid, Project Pat.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: You've had some legendary artists that you've linked with. Is
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Speaker 1: there somebody who's just, like, for whatever reason, it just
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Speaker 1: hasn't happened? Maybe it almost happened. Who do you really
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Speaker 1: want to, like, get one in with before you hang
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Speaker 1: it up? If you ever hang it up, obviously.
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Speaker 2: Uh, I, I don't know, bro. I feel like I
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Speaker 2: used to have like a, a list, but I'm really
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Speaker 2: just on some shit now. Like, I work with anybody
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Speaker 2: who want to work. You know what I'm saying? Like,
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Speaker 2: I'm a rapping ass nigga, but I'm also like a
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Speaker 2: music nigga. Like, I work with anybody who want.
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Speaker 1: Dominic Fike records hard too.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Super dope. Thank you. Yeah. Like, but I feel
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Speaker 2: like a lot of rappers be scared to rap with
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Speaker 2: me maybe, or that's how I feel. Like to where
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Speaker 2: it's like, I don't get, I don't get asked to
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Speaker 2: do any features, as I feel like I should. Sometimes
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Speaker 2: I'll ask for- Rob Markman Have you ever put a
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Speaker 2: guest verse on somebody's shit and it got left off?
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Speaker 2: Rob Markman Nah, it never got left off, but it
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Speaker 2: might not have came out, for whatever reason. Rob Markman
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Speaker 2: Sometimes that could be, the beat didn't get cleared. Rob
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Speaker 2: Markman But that's happened a lot of times. Rob Markman
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Speaker 2: He's like, yo, why is it every time I out
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Speaker 2: rap somebody I know a song? Rob Markman That's happened
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Speaker 2: more times than the song actually came out. Rob Markman
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Speaker 2: That is crazy. Rob Markman Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I want to know your thoughts. Obviously, as an Atlanta kid,
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Speaker 1: I'm so conflicted. There's somebody who has Equimini right there,
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Speaker 1: my third favorite hip-hop album of all time. What are
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Speaker 1: your thoughts on the outcast-overcast thing? There's the lawsuit.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. It's a tough goddamn, I guess, situation for me
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Speaker 2: because I've been on overcast for a long time.
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Speaker 1: Great guy, by the way.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, he's talented as fuck. I mean, I feel
15:04
Speaker 2: like his beats, his production, and also his own music
15:08
Speaker 2: is like, super fire i feel like it's unfortunate that
15:12
Speaker 2: they like having a disagreement for real.
15:13
Speaker 1: Because and it's like it's whatever the parent company is
15:16
Speaker 1: that owns that trademark so it feels like one of
15:18
Speaker 1: those things that like if in like a year like
15:21
Speaker 1: andre gets ran up on somewhere he might not even
15:23
Speaker 1: have known this shit was going on you know what.
15:24
Speaker 2: I'm saying yeah maybe i i don't know enough about
15:27
Speaker 2: if they if they even is like involved like directly
15:30
Speaker 2: like you know saying it's a note to like for
15:32
Speaker 2: really coming on but i mean i hate that because Yeah,
15:34
Speaker 2: I hate it too. I mean, I vote Overcast as
15:36
Speaker 2: my boy. He's dope. But also as Outkast. I'm not
15:39
Speaker 2: going against Selena, you know what I'm saying? It's my
15:40
Speaker 2: favorite album. I mean, my favorite group ever is Outkast.
15:43
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm like a creative child of Outkast. I
15:46
Speaker 2: have three stacks. And I feel like in some way
15:49
Speaker 2: he may be too, you know?
15:50
Speaker 1: No, I mean, I think, yeah. I mean, I feel
15:52
Speaker 1: like anybody who is dope like that has to at
15:54
Speaker 1: least have a surface level.
15:56
Speaker 2: Respect for Outkast. But they shouldn't be trying to take
15:58
Speaker 2: his bread. No, that ain't.
16:00
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I could maybe understand it a little
16:02
Speaker 1: bit more if it's like, yo, just change the name.
16:04
Speaker 1: but change the name and all the money you've made
16:07
Speaker 1: since you've been overcast. When he came from a collective
16:10
Speaker 1: of guys who were named after weather shit.
16:12
Speaker 2: Yeah.
16:12
Speaker 1: Which I barely just.
16:13
Speaker 2: That shit just unfortunate. Yeah.
16:16
Speaker 1: Shout out to RZA for not suing SZA.
16:18
Speaker 2: Type shit. Yeah. Like I feel like. Yeah. Yeah. Kind
16:22
Speaker 2: of feel like.
16:23
Speaker 1: And shout out to Nas for not suing Lil Nas X.
16:25
Speaker 2: Lil Nas X. Yeah. Yeah. They probably. Yeah. I don't know.
16:29
Speaker 1: If you had to like. Really lock in and do
16:31
Speaker 1: like an entirely different genre for one album. Would it
16:35
Speaker 1: be like rock, punk?
16:36
Speaker 2: What are you doing? Well, obviously, yeah, I would do
16:39
Speaker 2: like an alternative, like heavy guitar leaning album for sure.
16:42
Speaker 2: Like without a thought. But also, I feel like I
16:47
Speaker 2: would also be interested in kind of like an R &
16:49
Speaker 2: B maybe. Yeah. Or like swinging it, like maybe like
16:52
Speaker 2: alternative R & B type of shit for sure.
16:55
Speaker 1: Yeah, we need more R & B. I just went
16:58
Speaker 1: to Chris Brown and Usher's stadium show and it was like,
17:00
Speaker 1: I was like, where's all this shit at right now?
17:03
Speaker 1: This motherfucker just sold out a stadium with a bunch
17:05
Speaker 1: of R & B records. Who's like, we need more
17:06
Speaker 1: people making this shit right now. Obviously there are some
17:09
Speaker 1: amazing R & B artists right now.
17:10
Speaker 2: I feel like I've seen like a few people, I
17:12
Speaker 2: don't even know their name or nothing like that, but
17:15
Speaker 2: I've seen like a few guys like try to do that,
17:17
Speaker 2: like the 2026 version of that and just get straight
17:20
Speaker 2: up laughed at.
17:21
Speaker 1: Yeah. My boys connected with Jermaine Dupri Division. So they
17:27
Speaker 1: left OVO and they did a really dope late 90s,
17:31
Speaker 1: early 2000s.
17:32
Speaker 2: R & B album. And one of the records did
17:33
Speaker 2: all right. But they did it with the architect of Confessions,
17:37
Speaker 2: Jermaine Dupri. You know what I'm saying? That's fire. And Division.
17:41
Speaker 2: I used to listen to Division. Fire. Yeah, yeah. Shout
17:43
Speaker 2: out to Division.
17:45
Speaker 1: In terms of the trippy rock shit in that world,
17:49
Speaker 1: what are you influenced by? What is the stuff that
17:51
Speaker 1: kind of stuck with you in that world that maybe
17:53
Speaker 1: you were listening to?
17:54
Speaker 2: Definitely like A lot of grunge and, like, post-grunge stuff. So, like,
17:59
Speaker 2: everything from, like, Nirvana and, like, Smashing Pumpkins and stuff
18:04
Speaker 2: like that up to, like, I mean, I love, like, Deftones.
18:07
Speaker 2: Deftones is fire. Like, I guess new metal type of stuff. Like,
18:11
Speaker 2: they would fall into that. Just, like, heavier stuff.
18:13
Speaker 1: You ever get into Tool?
18:15
Speaker 2: I like a couple Tool songs.
18:16
Speaker 1: Tool is, like, the nerdy. It's, like, you got to
18:19
Speaker 1: really be into, like, trigonometry to fuck with Tool. But
18:23
Speaker 1: they got some crazy shit. Like, they got some joints.
18:25
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
18:26
Speaker 1: The new metal shit can get.
18:28
Speaker 2: It goes from, like, Deftones, and then, like, the other
18:31
Speaker 2: side of it is, like... Korn.
18:33
Speaker 1: Korn.
18:33
Speaker 2: Yeah.
18:35
Speaker 1: By the way, I love Korn.
18:36
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like some Korn songs.
18:37
Speaker 1: Freak on Alicia's.
18:37
Speaker 2: I like some Korn songs. But then there's, like, Limp Bizkit,
18:41
Speaker 2: which hasn't aged the greatest. But had TRL... Yo, I
18:45
Speaker 2: want to say... Yeah, I want to say I do
18:48
Speaker 2: want to put some respect on Limp Bizkit's name. They
18:50
Speaker 2: had it on lock. Because they kind of invented a
18:53
Speaker 2: whole genre of white men. Fred Durst?
18:57
Speaker 1: There wasn't a Fred Durst before Fred Durst?
18:59
Speaker 2: Was there? Am I missing something? Am I missing something?
19:01
Speaker 2: They put him in a cryogenic chamber. Yeah. I just
19:05
Speaker 2: feel like it was a lot of white guys with
19:07
Speaker 2: their hat back after that.
19:09
Speaker 1: Yo, he was responsible for the red fitted hat craze.
19:14
Speaker 2: Yeah.
19:14
Speaker 1: And then he had the like... they made an entire
19:19
Speaker 1: new era line based on, because he had the logo.
19:21
Speaker 2: You see what I'm saying? Remember, there was like the
19:22
Speaker 2: hats with just the logo in the corner, and it
19:24
Speaker 2: was like a blank.
19:25
Speaker 1: Yeah.
19:26
Speaker 2: Yeah. That's iconic.
19:28
Speaker 1: And like, Damn Near made like the rap rock, how
19:31
Speaker 1: do you feel about it? But the rap rock thing
19:33
Speaker 1: was like.
19:34
Speaker 2: No, for sure.
19:34
Speaker 1: It was them.
19:35
Speaker 2: Right, yes, 100%. Yeah, and then like. Like on a
19:38
Speaker 2: large scale, yes. On a large scale. Come on, like.
19:40
Speaker 1: Yes Like there was a group Called Faith No More
19:42
Speaker 1: And they had one record Where the dude was spitting
19:44
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19:46
Speaker 1: a little Rappity type shit But it's definitely Limp Bizkit
19:49
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19:52
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19:52
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19:55
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Speaker 1: the interview right now. I've been seeing a lot of
21:56
Speaker 1: people say that music videos aren't as important anymore because...
22:03
Speaker 1: the days of, like, obviously certain artists are always going
22:06
Speaker 1: to spend a bag on videos, but, like, the days of, like, you, like, spending, like,
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Speaker 1: $ 40, 000 on a video just doesn't make sense because the
22:15
Speaker 1: ROI isn't there. Like, for you, are you– how, like,
22:18
Speaker 1: important is it for you to make sure you're visually,
22:21
Speaker 1: I guess, representing the art?
22:24
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I do think it's important to– create
22:28
Speaker 2: the I mean it's an extension of the world you
22:30
Speaker 2: build in as an.
22:30
Speaker 1: Artist 100% and I always say it's like a commercial
22:33
Speaker 1: for your brand.
22:34
Speaker 2: For sure like I think it's important I think it
22:37
Speaker 2: like to the people it's still important I think yeah
22:40
Speaker 2: labels like you said they just don't feel like there's
22:42
Speaker 2: an ROI on it so they ain't paying for most
22:46
Speaker 2: folks we see with the five videos like they paying
22:48
Speaker 2: for some of that shit they.
22:48
Speaker 1: Sell 100% out of their own pocket or like who
22:52
Speaker 1: got the.
22:52
Speaker 2: Best videos like I'm sure like Tyler is like coming
22:55
Speaker 2: out of pocket for a.
22:56
Speaker 1: Lot of his shit 100% yeah Yeah, I feel like
22:58
Speaker 1: the best artists do that, and then they'll come out
23:00
Speaker 1: of pocket for their big festival performances.
23:02
Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of them people, I mean, the bigger
23:06
Speaker 2: artists are getting bigger because of that.
23:09
Speaker 1: You also got to have a great videographer who can
23:11
Speaker 1: do a lot with a little.
23:13
Speaker 2: Yeah, you got to treat that too, that relationship too.
23:16
Speaker 2: I feel like you got to treat like a producer
23:17
Speaker 2: you lock in with, just like building a visual identity. 100%.
23:22
Speaker 2: If you had to do a joint album with anybody,
23:23
Speaker 2: who would you do it with? That's a good one.
23:28
Speaker 2: A few people, Jib for sure. Yeah. I think that'd
23:32
Speaker 2: probably be the easiest one to do. Oh, y'all got
23:34
Speaker 2: five joints together? Four joints?
23:36
Speaker 1: Yeah, but we also got like a bunch of- A
23:38
Speaker 1: whole folder of unreleased stuff just sitting on a hard drive.
23:42
Speaker 2: Yeah. I actually probably shouldn't have said that. They're going
23:44
Speaker 2: to be mad. It's fine. It's implied. You got five
23:47
Speaker 2: songs with somebody. Yeah, facts. Yeah. Paris, Texas, my guys,
23:53
Speaker 2: just because they like, I feel like we like Kendrick
23:55
Speaker 2: Spears as far as like the alternative.
23:57
Speaker 1: They're super dope.
23:58
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying?
23:59
Speaker 1: I saw them open for Tyler.
24:00
Speaker 2: Yeah.
24:00
Speaker 1: And they were really dope.
24:01
Speaker 2: Yeah. And they just the homies too. So I feel like, again,
24:04
Speaker 2: like it'd just be like a natural thing. Yeah.
24:08
Speaker 1: You said that this album saved your life. How did
24:10
Speaker 1: Bulldog save your life?
24:12
Speaker 2: I feel like it kind of forced me to like
24:14
Speaker 2: accept my like artist identity. You know, like I feel
24:18
Speaker 2: like there was like a lot of forces trying to
24:22
Speaker 2: kind of devalue me. you know what I'm saying, like, externally, like,
24:26
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, a lot of it is, like,
24:28
Speaker 2: my own, it was my own insecurities, per se, or, like,
24:32
Speaker 2: my own, like, negative thoughts about, like, who I was
24:37
Speaker 2: and my purpose and stuff, and making this album was
24:40
Speaker 2: kind of a, like, a affirmation, a big affirmation of, like,
24:44
Speaker 2: why I still do what I do, you know what
24:46
Speaker 2: I'm saying, because, you know, it's like, comparison is a
24:49
Speaker 2: thief of joy and all of that stuff, and I
24:51
Speaker 2: feel like a lot of artists feel that way, too, of, like,
24:55
Speaker 2: the world is kind of trying to devalue you. Everything
24:57
Speaker 2: is about numbers. Everything is about optics. Everything is about, like,
24:59
Speaker 2: comparing yourself to this person who's got this whole type
25:03
Speaker 2: of setup that you don't even fucking realize, you know
25:05
Speaker 2: what I'm saying? So I feel like it was kind
25:06
Speaker 2: of like a big, like, manifesto or like a promise
25:09
Speaker 2: to myself of, like, this is why I do this
25:11
Speaker 2: shit and, like, you know, like, I'm going to be, like,
25:15
Speaker 2: myself no matter what.
25:16
Speaker 1: For you, because I've seen it happen, like, I can
25:20
Speaker 1: only imagine if you're an artist who kind of doesn't
25:22
Speaker 1: fit in a, box if you will you do get
25:26
Speaker 1: a lot of external pressure the label saying yo you're
25:29
Speaker 1: from atlanta do a record with this person yeah or
25:31
Speaker 1: hey we want to get you in with this producer
25:33
Speaker 1: because this producer makes the trap atlanta shit or whatever
25:36
Speaker 1: it is do you start to kind of like second
25:39
Speaker 1: guess like am i doing the right shit like am
25:44
Speaker 1: i am i like is the music because if you're
25:46
Speaker 1: making the music you love i feel like that's all
25:48
Speaker 1: that matters and you'll get the best art out of
25:50
Speaker 1: that But did you ever, were you ever like tempted
25:52
Speaker 1: to chase sounds or chase?
25:54
Speaker 2: A hundred percent. Everybody is. Like, I feel like everybody like,
25:57
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying? Get that little bug of like, man,
26:01
Speaker 2: this what everybody got down doing. So if I do
26:03
Speaker 2: this shit, it'd be like a quick bag or whatever. But,
26:06
Speaker 2: but that's what I mean about Bulldog. Like the bravery
26:08
Speaker 2: to like, not necessarily succumb to that and like find
26:11
Speaker 2: your way, like find your purpose. Like, cause trust me, bro.
26:14
Speaker 2: Like I love money, bro. I fuck with money. Like
26:16
Speaker 2: I like having money. I like having big songs and
26:18
Speaker 2: shit like that. But, That's like a beast that's always hungry.
26:22
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? So, like, how long are
26:23
Speaker 2: you going to feed it? Are you going to lose
26:25
Speaker 2: yourself in that? You know what I'm saying? Was the
26:27
Speaker 2: 7-Eleven record kind of like you addressing those feelings? A
26:30
Speaker 2: hundred percent. Like, bro, if you... No matter how fire
26:34
Speaker 2: you is, like, the industry don't necessarily have an incentive
26:39
Speaker 2: to reward somebody for being good at what they do or, like,
26:42
Speaker 2: even loving what they do or even the knowledge... acknowledging
26:46
Speaker 2: the amount of people that love what you do, it's
26:48
Speaker 2: just literally, like, it's this number doing what this number
26:51
Speaker 2: is supposed to do for us. Yeah. And I'm not, like,
26:54
Speaker 2: label bashing, because that's, like, how any business is supposed
26:57
Speaker 2: to be. Right. But I do think, like, for your
27:00
Speaker 2: artist sanity, you got to check in with yourself of, like,
27:03
Speaker 2: why the fuck am I doing this, you know what
27:05
Speaker 2: I'm saying? Like, beyond money, because it's, like, anybody can
27:08
Speaker 2: do that shit. Well, I think, too. And that's why, like,
27:10
Speaker 2: AI art and all that shit is doing that shit,
27:12
Speaker 2: because it's, like, Nigga, there's some shit that can generate
27:15
Speaker 2: money while we do nothing.
27:17
Speaker 1: It literally costs nothing to make. It's kind of crazy.
27:20
Speaker 1: It's like the AI shit, I feel like the.
27:23
Speaker 2: Labels are saying that they're going to fight against it
27:25
Speaker 2: like some are. They're full of shit. Yeah, come on. Like, it's... Yeah.
27:30
Speaker 1: Wait, you mean you can get some free work out
27:33
Speaker 1: of this sono? You know what I'm saying?
27:34
Speaker 2: It's like the best case scenario for like a corporation.
27:37
Speaker 2: I ain't going to lie.
27:38
Speaker 1: Also, like, we've been getting... primed for this through Hollywood, man.
27:42
Speaker 1: We had that Artificial Intelligence movie with Lil Bruh in
27:45
Speaker 1: it and Will Smith, you know what I'm saying?
27:46
Speaker 2: Now you're getting tip for a hat. Yeah. No, I'm
27:48
Speaker 2: in it. I'm in it.
27:49
Speaker 1: No, but I do think, even if you think of
27:51
Speaker 1: the Sonos shit, because I think producers, I know some
27:54
Speaker 1: producers who will think of an idea for a sample
27:59
Speaker 1: and instead of like, I guess you can't really dig
28:03
Speaker 1: for a specific lyric.
28:04
Speaker 2: It's too tempting. It's because it's just right there and
28:08
Speaker 2: it's immediate. If you're a producer and it's like, it's
28:12
Speaker 2: going to cost 20 bands, 30 bands to clear this sample.
28:15
Speaker 2: Or you can just go here and, yo, make me
28:17
Speaker 2: type this prompt and make me this type of vibe
28:19
Speaker 2: and then you can sample it. It's like, it's too tempting.
28:22
Speaker 1: If you find out your producer's using AI for their beats,
28:27
Speaker 1: are you out?
28:30
Speaker 2: Yeah, it sucks to do the right thing sometimes. It does, man.
28:33
Speaker 2: We got to save the fucking power bills and the water, dog.
28:36
Speaker 2: I guess I'm just standing on, for me, like, musically,
28:39
Speaker 2: I'm standing on, like, it all being an organic thing. Like,
28:43
Speaker 2: that's my brand.
28:44
Speaker 1: And like, this is your livelihood. So if like, if
28:48
Speaker 1: the producer can replace the bro who sends loops, somebody's
28:53
Speaker 1: gonna end up replacing the motherfucker rapping.
28:56
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like a rat race. Yeah. You know what
28:58
Speaker 2: I'm saying? Like, somebody gotta, somebody gotta be the one
29:01
Speaker 2: to be like, nah, I'ma stand on this and not
29:03
Speaker 2: do it and that'll be my brand. You know what
29:05
Speaker 2: I'm saying? Y'all probably get rich faster than me, but
29:08
Speaker 2: I have my like, I have my stream of money
29:12
Speaker 2: the way I do it, and I won't feel like
29:14
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29:15
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29:19
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29:20
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29:24
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29:29
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29:32
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Speaker 2: this shit.
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Speaker 1: One of the streaming apps, I think it's Prime, but
30:50
Speaker 1: they took away movies from a certain company that you
30:52
Speaker 1: bought because their deal with them, like they couldn't come
30:54
Speaker 1: to an agreement. So I, I bought like some movies
30:58
Speaker 1: that I didn't have access to anymore.
30:59
Speaker 2: My conspiracy theory theory. Yeah. Conspiracy theory.
31:03
Speaker 1: Put the tinfoil hat on.
31:04
Speaker 2: Let's go. Yeah. It's going to be like, there's going
31:06
Speaker 2: to be something happens where there's like a great erasure
31:10
Speaker 2: of like the cloud. Yeah. Yeah. Brother already. Yeah. I'm
31:16
Speaker 2: just like classic shit. Out of some great attempt to
31:23
Speaker 2: rewrite a narrative about- Rewrite history? You know what I'm saying?
31:26
Speaker 2: I be thinking about this type of shit. We don't
31:28
Speaker 2: even know what type of genre. We don't really have
31:31
Speaker 2: a record of all the type of genres there were
31:35
Speaker 2: 100 years ago. You know what I'm saying? I don't know.
31:39
Speaker 2: I just be thinking about the artists that, for whatever reason-
31:44
Speaker 2: got erased. We just have to believe whatever museums tell us, basically.
31:49
Speaker 1: Yeah, it sucks, too, because even on the smaller side,
31:53
Speaker 1: on the hip-hop side, all the BET.com articles got erased.
31:57
Speaker 2: Yeah.
31:57
Speaker 1: All the hip-hop DX articles got erased. All of our
32:01
Speaker 1: blogs that we had in the blog era, they're not
32:04
Speaker 1: there anymore. If you go to 2dopeboys. com, it's just a
32:07
Speaker 1: landing page now, and you're like, damn, what if I
32:09
Speaker 1: wanted to go To see what you guys posted in 2010.
32:12
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I can't find the first, like, what, Kendrick
32:18
Speaker 2: Lamar article on two dead boys. That's fucked up. But
32:23
Speaker 2: I'm saying it's like somebody, I feel like... It's historic.
32:25
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's just in the hip-hop space. So imagine, like,
32:29
Speaker 1: in the big picture shit, motherfuckers is really going to, like,
32:32
Speaker 1: slowly start deleting shit. So it's like, hey, in 50 years,
32:35
Speaker 1: the narrative is what we tell you the narrative is.
32:38
Speaker 2: Yeah. Or it's like, shit... even more tinfoil. They can
32:42
Speaker 2: fucking change the movie. Shout out to like, they can
32:43
Speaker 2: change the shit and it's like, no, the original version
32:46
Speaker 2: was like this. You know what I'm saying?
32:47
Speaker 1: Which is what they do anyway.
32:48
Speaker 2: Yeah, type. So it's like.
32:50
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, for sure. We, it's, yeah, yeah, no. Shout
32:53
Speaker 1: out to the tinfoil hats. We're here. Um, what, what
32:56
Speaker 1: is your, are you a big movie guy?
32:58
Speaker 2: Yeah.
32:59
Speaker 1: What's, what's your, uh, like favorite movie? I know you
33:01
Speaker 1: got a song called Pulp Fiction. Are you a Pulp
33:03
Speaker 1: Fiction guy? What's your, what's your favorite movies? Yeah, I
33:05
Speaker 1: fuck with Pulp Fiction for sure. I mean, I like
33:07
Speaker 1: all like Tarantino stuff. Um, My favorite, probably all-time favorite
33:13
Speaker 1: movie is probably Interstellar.
33:14
Speaker 2: I love Interstellar, man. Yeah.
33:17
Speaker 1: McConaughey goes crazy.
33:19
Speaker 2: I saw it on accident. I was supposed to go
33:22
Speaker 2: see Jurassic Park with my mama. Okay. And we went
33:28
Speaker 2: to the wrong theater.
33:29
Speaker 1: Lucky you.
33:30
Speaker 2: And I know that. I know the movie was super fire. One,
33:33
Speaker 2: because I was about to shed a tear. But two,
33:35
Speaker 2: my mama didn't like it. That's how I knew it
33:36
Speaker 2: was fire.
33:38
Speaker 1: Your mom's probably like my wife. My wife likes nothing good.
33:42
Speaker 2: Yeah.
33:42
Speaker 1: She wants to watch, like, fucking.
33:44
Speaker 2: My mama want to watch, like, Tyler Perry movies.
33:46
Speaker 1: I was literally about to say, my wife wants to
33:48
Speaker 1: watch Tyler Perry movies.
33:49
Speaker 2: Yeah, fact.
33:50
Speaker 1: I literally was going to say, like, she's like, Tyler Perry,
33:53
Speaker 1: slasher flicks, and Friends.
33:56
Speaker 2: Or, like, my mama want to watch, like, King Kong
33:58
Speaker 2: versus like Mechagodzilla. Yes, like dumb shit. Shit like that, yeah.
34:02
Speaker 1: She'd be like, yo, put that rock movie on where
34:04
Speaker 1: he's like falling into a volcano.
34:06
Speaker 2: Yeah, shit like that. Jumanji. Yes.
34:09
Speaker 1: Oh my God.
34:11
Speaker 2: I'm like, yo, let's watch.
34:12
Speaker 1: Yo, let me tell you about this movie, Memento.
34:14
Speaker 2: It's backwards.
34:15
Speaker 1: It's kind of crazy.
34:16
Speaker 2: This is fucking stupid. I'm like, no, it's not. It's amazing.
34:20
Speaker 1: So, Interstellar.
34:21
Speaker 2: Great movie. Christopher Nolan is a G. Yeah, yeah. He's
34:24
Speaker 2: the one.
34:24
Speaker 1: Have you watched True Detective season one with Matthew McConaughey
34:28
Speaker 1: and Woody Harrelson?
34:29
Speaker 2: I watched it like a long time ago. I barely remember.
34:32
Speaker 2: We were just talking about all the detective shows and
34:35
Speaker 2: shit like that. That's the one. Only that one season, though.
34:38
Speaker 1: Mersha Ali, season three, Mersha Ali comes back, or he
34:40
Speaker 1: comes in it, and it's pretty good, but season one,
34:43
Speaker 1: it's standalone.
34:44
Speaker 2: I really fucked with Dexter.
34:46
Speaker 1: Oh, up until, listen, Dexter, I was there when it
34:50
Speaker 1: was happening.
34:50
Speaker 2: I didn't catch it on Netflix.
34:52
Speaker 1: I had it on DVD. Still have it on DVD, unfortunately. Well,
34:55
Speaker 1: or fortunately, depending on if your theory comes through. Anything
35:00
Speaker 1: after season four I'm out on, though. Season four of
35:02
Speaker 1: Dexter is one of the greatest television seasons of all time.
35:06
Speaker 1: When the Trinity killer.
35:07
Speaker 2: Kills his wife. Yes.
35:08
Speaker 1: Holy shit.
35:09
Speaker 2: No. Classic. After that, it goes off the rails. I
35:14
Speaker 2: might not have even watched it after that.
35:15
Speaker 1: No, you probably did.
35:16
Speaker 2: It just, it goes off the rails. Mm-hmm. The Trinity Killer,
35:20
Speaker 2: that bro, John Lithgow, forget about it. Such a good
35:23
Speaker 2: fucking show. Yeah.
35:24
Speaker 1: Did you watch the spinoffs? Like, they got Dexter New Blood.
35:28
Speaker 2: Oh, no, I didn't watch any of the spinoffs.
35:30
Speaker 1: No, the spinoffs are not bad.
35:31
Speaker 2: Really?
35:32
Speaker 1: There's three spinoffs that all have the original. Well, Dexter
35:36
Speaker 1: New Blood, fast forwards, because he survived, and then his
35:39
Speaker 1: son finds him in, like, Alaska.
35:43
Speaker 2: What? It's good.
35:45
Speaker 1: The one I didn't watch was the flashback one, which
35:47
Speaker 1: is like, it just takes place with him and his
35:49
Speaker 1: dad when he's a kid.
35:50
Speaker 2: That's a prequel, yeah. Okay.
35:52
Speaker 1: Didn't get into the prequel. And then there's a new,
35:54
Speaker 1: new one that I heard is fire.
35:56
Speaker 2: All right. Dexter's dope, man. I had to check him out.
35:59
Speaker 2: You know what trips me out is all my, like,
36:00
Speaker 2: I found out that motherfucker's from England. Yeah. It's like,
36:04
Speaker 2: you watch your favorite shows and then you watch these interviews.
36:06
Speaker 2: It's like, what's up?
36:07
Speaker 1: Everybody in the UK is getting shit cracking out here, bro.
36:10
Speaker 2: I feel like that's like a thing. We got to like,
36:12
Speaker 2: we got to come hard. Breath of Snowfall. Yeah, like.
36:15
Speaker 1: English as fuck.
36:16
Speaker 2: UK actors is kind of like... I feel like the
36:19
Speaker 2: film in general, too, is kind of shitting on us
36:21
Speaker 2: over here. Did you watch Odyssey? Nah, I ain't seen
36:23
Speaker 2: it yet. I want to see it in IMAX.
36:25
Speaker 1: That's the only reason... Literally, I only want to see
36:28
Speaker 1: it that way, and it's sold out.
36:29
Speaker 2: You can book that until, like, fucking November or some shit. Facts. Yeah.
36:33
Speaker 1: And I'm, like, the only person in my life, because
36:35
Speaker 1: everybody else just went and saw it. I'm like, no, no,
36:36
Speaker 1: you got to see it with a certain millimeter in
36:39
Speaker 1: the IMAX.
36:39
Speaker 2: I'm with that. However, the director told me I got
36:42
Speaker 2: to see it.
36:42
Speaker 1: What about Spider-Man? Did you see the new Spider-Man?
36:44
Speaker 2: For sure. First day. I don't watch that either. I
36:46
Speaker 2: don't know why. You don't fuck with Spider-Man?
36:48
Speaker 1: No, I do.
36:48
Speaker 2: I just, for whatever reason. I think it's the best one.
36:52
Speaker 2: I've heard that.
36:53
Speaker 1: Now, do you think he's the best Spider-Man?
36:55
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, I.
36:57
Speaker 1: Unpopular opinion. I actually think the unpopular opinion is Xander Garfield.
37:01
Speaker 2: What?
37:03
Speaker 1: I think The Amazing Spider-Man won. I think Andrew Garfield
37:05
Speaker 1: is the best Spider-Man. Now, he's not in the best
37:07
Speaker 1: Spider-Man movies.
37:08
Speaker 2: Nah, bro. He's too cool.
37:10
Speaker 1: Just like Robert Pattinson, to me, is the best Batman.
37:14
Speaker 1: Because The Batman is the most realistic depiction of what
37:18
Speaker 1: Batman would be like in a real world setting.
37:20
Speaker 2: I think Robert Pattinson has the best Batman performance ever.
37:24
Speaker 2: think the best batman movies.
37:26
Speaker 1: Yeah no no but it's different conversation yeah yeah because
37:28
Speaker 1: the amazing spider-man 2 was horrible jamie foxx i would
37:31
Speaker 1: never look at.
37:31
Speaker 2: Jamie but i mean i'm not gonna lie like andrew
37:33
Speaker 2: garfield he's too he's too cool for me like i
37:36
Speaker 2: need my peter parker to be nerdy as fuck.
37:38
Speaker 1: And he felt like a little kid like tom holland
37:41
Speaker 1: you know one of his gifts is he looks like
37:42
Speaker 1: he's 12 yeah so yeah zen day got the same
37:47
Speaker 1: shit so when they're playing high school kids you're like
37:48
Speaker 1: i believe it like yeah euphoria you're like jesus.
37:51
Speaker 2: But yeah i just feel like the Peter Parker was
37:54
Speaker 2: supposed to have that awkwardness. You know what I'm saying?
37:57
Speaker 2: He's not supposed to be all like, Andrew Garfield, like swag.
38:00
Speaker 1: Did you watch the new Resident Evil?
38:02
Speaker 2: Nah. I don't know.
38:03
Speaker 1: Are you a gamer?
38:03
Speaker 2: I'm not even really up on the Resident Evil movies
38:06
Speaker 2: and shit like I should be. Did you play the game?
38:08
Speaker 2: I think I played the game when I was a kid, yeah.
38:11
Speaker 2: Like fucking 2000, what, 2007? It's great. Yeah. I got
38:15
Speaker 2: to tap in. Yeah, yeah. I mean, don't play the game.
38:18
Speaker 2: You don't have time. Don't play the game? I mean,
38:20
Speaker 2: play the game if you have like a month. Yeah,
38:24
Speaker 2: I'm blocking out the whole month for GTA for sure. Yeah,
38:28
Speaker 2: the GTA thing is going to fuck a lot of
38:30
Speaker 2: lives up. Yeah.
38:32
Speaker 1: I'm like a little worried because I haven't beat a
38:35
Speaker 1: game in like a decade. I buy them all.
38:39
Speaker 2: You're too busy.
38:40
Speaker 1: Exactly. I'm like a person who like, I even do
38:45
Speaker 1: that shit with shows, but I haven't beat a game
38:49
Speaker 1: in so long because I'll be like, yeah, it's fun,
38:52
Speaker 1: but then I just never touch it again.
38:54
Speaker 2: Yeah.
38:55
Speaker 1: But like GTA, I feel like it's the entry point
39:00
Speaker 1: to us ending up like Ready Player One.
39:02
Speaker 2: For sure. I'm fucking with it, though. Like motherfuckers are
39:06
Speaker 2: going to have jobs in that game. Yeah.
39:08
Speaker 1: They're going to be morbidly obese in real life. They're
39:12
Speaker 1: going to be morbidly obese, like literally 10 steps away
39:15
Speaker 1: from death.
39:16
Speaker 2: Yeah. But in the game, they're going to work out
39:19
Speaker 2: every day and be swole as fuck. That is dark. No,
39:23
Speaker 2: because that's a thing in the new game.
39:24
Speaker 1: In the new game, depending on if you work out
39:27
Speaker 1: in the game, your guy looks different.
39:29
Speaker 2: It is dystopian when you describe it that way.
39:32
Speaker 1: Just imagine some fat fuck. He's got fat Cheeto fingers.
39:37
Speaker 1: He's playing, just screaming at his fucking mom for the
39:42
Speaker 1: Hot Pockets. But he's watching his character on GTA 5.
39:47
Speaker 1: fucking do push-ups, and he's like, fuck yeah, I'm gonna
39:49
Speaker 1: get these bitches.
39:51
Speaker 2: Bruh.
39:51
Speaker 1: No, it's gonna happen.
39:52
Speaker 2: It's gonna happen. I heard you can have a girlfriend
39:55
Speaker 2: in the game, too. Bro, I'm telling you, these motherfuckers
39:58
Speaker 2: are gonna be fucking.
39:59
Speaker 1: Hey, you know what? It might be a good thing.
40:02
Speaker 1: Maybe they'll stop shooting up schools and churches and shit.
40:04
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying?
40:05
Speaker 2: In the game? No, in real life. Oh, shit. There's
40:08
Speaker 2: a lot of these lonely bruhs. What do they call them?
40:11
Speaker 2: What do they call them? Incels. Oh, yeah, incels. Yeah,
40:13
Speaker 2: give them all GTA.
40:14
Speaker 1: Hmm.
40:16
Speaker 2: GTA in the virtual suit that makes them feel like
40:18
Speaker 2: they're getting some real pussy. Anyway. Well, listen, man.
40:22
Speaker 1: Your new album is out.
40:23
Speaker 2: It is called Bulldog. Yeah. Safe to say we won't.
40:26
Speaker 1: Be getting a lot going on for you in November
40:29
Speaker 1: as you'll be on GTA.
40:31
Speaker 2: November I'm out of commission, but I'm coming right back.
40:34
Speaker 2: I'll drop all the new stuff before then. I got
40:36
Speaker 2: some new shit coming before then in October.
40:39
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you do have new shit coming?
40:40
Speaker 2: Yeah, we got new songs coming. We got vinyls coming,
40:42
Speaker 2: and I'll be doing pop-ups for the vinyls. The vinyl
40:45
Speaker 2: shit's important. Yeah, it's my first time dropping vinyl.
40:49
Speaker 1: Are you doing the limited run thing where you have like, yo,
40:52
Speaker 1: if you get this one, you get the splatter with
40:53
Speaker 1: the fucking Japanese writing and it's like there's only 200
40:57
Speaker 1: of them.
40:57
Speaker 2: They've been waiting on vinyls for like six years, so
41:00
Speaker 2: I'm just going to let them have it.
41:02
Speaker 1: Are you going to do all the old stuff too?
41:04
Speaker 2: Eventually. Right now we're just doing Bulldog, but I'll eventually
41:08
Speaker 2: get to that.
41:09
Speaker 1: Just do what The Alchemist does. You've got to go
41:12
Speaker 1: like general release.
41:14
Speaker 1: So that's for everybody. Just the black record. Then you
41:17
Speaker 1: got to do like four limited runs of like different artwork. Bro,
41:23
Speaker 1: I'm telling you.
41:24
Speaker 2: Like, ALC has figured it out. Him and Freddie, when
41:27
Speaker 2: they do that Alfredo.
41:28
Speaker 1: Shit, there's like 12 different fucking vinyl versions that drop
41:31
Speaker 1: and motherfuckers, they all sell the fuck out.
41:33
Speaker 2: They like the kings of that shit for sure.
41:35
Speaker 1: Yeah, Al is definitely the king of the vinyl game.
41:37
Speaker 1: Him and Shots of West Side Gun and Makami too
41:40
Speaker 1: is incredible. Melissa, man, go support the album. Appreciate you
41:43
Speaker 1: pulling up.
41:44
Speaker 2: Tour coming? We finished tour in June.
41:48
Speaker 1: You were on some Monster Energy shit, right? Was that
41:50
Speaker 1: like two years ago?
41:51
Speaker 2: Three years ago? Did we do some Monster shit? Red
41:54
Speaker 2: Bull or something? We did. Only thing I can think
41:57
Speaker 2: of is Red Bull with Denzel.
41:58
Speaker 1: Maybe it was the Red Bull thing.
42:00
Speaker 2: Yeah. I saw you with the Energy Drink logo somewhere
42:02
Speaker 2: on a flyer. Might have been. There's that.
42:05
Speaker 1: Well, listen, Kenny, I appreciate you pulling up, man.
42:07
Speaker 2: My boy.
42:08
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