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Alucan't believe these accents! Hellsing Ultimate - Anime Club · Anime Club Podcast

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Hey, I actually don't know if we are live because I'm looking at
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the YouTube, but we're going to start as if we are and hope
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there's no there's no tech problems.
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Welcome to spooky anime club Season of the Vampire. 2
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settings, two set. I'll just, I'll just press call
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live, yeah. Hey, hey.
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Nothing to see, In fact, everything is smooth and
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professional. Welcome to this week's episode
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of Anime Club and we are fully in our spooky girl era.
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Welcome to our coven. Isn't that right, my fellow
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spooky girl Chris? Of course I forgot me witch's
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heart. Does that mean I have to cast
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spells in me pants? No.
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Yeah, it does. It does.
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It means you have to cut spells in your pants.
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Scared, alone and afraid. Get some.
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Pimpsels. Oh, I lost in found I think.
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Maybe you can see my nails this week are blood tipped because we
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are doing one of the most famous vampire animes.
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Is that fair to say? Yeah, dumping on the D Helsing,
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yeah. Yeah, yeah, we're going.
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We're leaning into the full vampire experience this spooky
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season. But before we dive into that,
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what are you sucking on this week, Chris?
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Because it's vampires. All right, I was going to say,
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should we not leave that till I press end life?
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No, we leave that until we set up our only fans.
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Page. Oh well, do you know what I do
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have? I've been talking about serene
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all day in the Discord, so I've got a special cookies and cream
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instead of serene. They're called Scream.
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And also, do you call it serene? Serene.
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Yeah, not Sorene. Oh no, this is revenge.
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Because what's that Internet cable you call?
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What? An Ethernet cable.
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Ethernet shut up, right? And what else I've got is.
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What else have you got to snack on?
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Oh, look, it's a little ghost guy.
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Oh my God, that's so good. Oh.
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Plug that in the Ethernet cable. It would be a ghost in the
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machine if I did. Oh, oh, oh, I've done that yet.
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Puns, we haven't done that because I was we couldn't do
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that because that was a week I couldn't do.
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But we will be doing that come November.
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Oh, Spyler. Oh.
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I didn't know that for me. Did you not?
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Have I not told you what we're doing?
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This probably. Club I just decide and then tell
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Chris to turn up or else. Yeah, I don't even know what
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we're doing next week, but I didn't even talk about it.
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Or might have, but I forgot. We've actually recorded what
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we're doing next week already. So it's like a very that's
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actually like a special type of forgetfulness.
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Yeah. Oh, is it like white chocolate
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all the way through? Are we talking cake pop?
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What's the situation? Sorry, chocolate.
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Oh, excellent. That's what you would want it to
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be, Yeah. White white chocolate is my
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favorite chocolate to be fair. Do you know what?
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White chocolate is my favorite chocolate, too, and all those
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people who say it's not real chocolate can chalk on.
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But Helsing Ultimate, this was a blast from a past for me.
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How? Yeah.
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Yeah. And can I just say I'd like a
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loving the background with the gloves, the Helsing Alucard
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gloves. Very cool.
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You're welcome. How would you describe Helsing
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Ultimate to someone who's never seen it before?
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What happens? Like clockwise or just if I
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wanted to pitch it to someone who's never watched anime
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before? I think both.
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Give me the plot 1st and then we'll have to pitch it, yeah?
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I'll just get it up here. It's set in modern day England.
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Modern day. It's not really.
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It's in the past and well, modern past. 90s, maybe late
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90s. I would say, yeah, like 80s,
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it's Queen Elizabeth because Queen Elizabeth makes an
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appearance at one point, isn't it?
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No mobile phones though. No mobile phones.
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I think it's like seventies, 80s, really out of time, Yeah.
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I'm final anyway. Certainly UK.
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It follows Sir Integra Wingate Helsing and her because she's
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female but she's been knighted so she's a Sir, which I got
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confused at the. Start Chris was like, I don't
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think you can be, I don't think you can have a title and be a
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woman. Notoriously, he thinks women
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shouldn't have titles or land. Just my opinion.
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No, I forgot we're not in the discord.
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I can't talk later. Yeah.
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Yeah, they've got this Helsing organization which protects the
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United Kingdom and the Queen Elizabeth.
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I don't know if they're branches to the Commonwealth, but the UK
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anyway, and it protects them from beasties, ghoulies,
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supernatural forces like vampires, zombies that they call
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ghouls in this and in all manner of things that crop up like
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that. And the Hellsen organization and
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one of their ancestors, who is Sir Integra's Great Granda,
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Greek maybe, and Great Granda actually captured a vampire
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called Alucod, which if you spell that backwards, that
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spells Frankenstein. And he I stole that from Jake.
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Jake, I was going to say thank you, Jake, for the joke.
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Yeah. Here on Anime Club, we like to
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credit people who are entertaining.
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Yeah. Saves me a job.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. So they've captured this.
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He's basically Dracula, one of the original vampires.
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He's he's Guitar D and so the idea is to defeat a monster
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rollback. Geethard, can you translate that
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for the not northerners? What geet?
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Something like very. Oh, sorry.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. OK.
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Yeah, OK. Ballard it's.
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Ballard, Mate. Sorry, is extremely Ethernet.
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And then, yeah, sorry, I've got what I was saying there.
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Oh yeah, captured a vampire. Sorry, I think it's pronounced
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soaring. So the Hells an organization
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think that to defeat a monster like a vampire you need to use a
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stronger vampire. So obviously there is some
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strong people who are normal humans.
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They've got their own militia and eventually they've got they
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conscript mercenaries and stuff like that and protecting the
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United Kingdom. But shock, horror and there's a
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spate of new vampires who are synthetic vampires.
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They find out that these vampires are being created with
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a microchip that they keep finding in the brains called a
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freak chip. So they need to get to the
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bottom of it whilst also competing with the very Irish.
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Oh, what they're called again. Irish priest.
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And no the the organization. It's not it's it's.
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Iscariot, the Iscariot Iscariot organization.
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So basically they are sent from the Pope.
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They're in another sect, but they are like these Hells and
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lots. They can't be used in monsters.
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So then they basically synthetically augment their
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people. Yeah.
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So one of the main ones who is called, I can't remember his
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name, Andrew or something, who is kind of a priest, but he's
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like the opposite side of the coin to other cards.
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So they've got this evil vampire and they've got this evil robot
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priest. Basically they, and I think they
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basically describe him like a Palladin, don't they?
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In it, he's the yeah, yeah. He's like the kind of like
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warrior priest, kind of. Yeah, he's he's like the the
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loose cannon, the same as Alucard where it's just like a
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he is bound to serve the Iscariot organization, but they
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cannot control them that very that well.
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They just point them in a general direction and say kill
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that that that is that goes the Pope wants that dead.
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So go, go and take care of it and.
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And by day, when he's not doing that, he seems to be in charge
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of an orphanage, which seems like a wild choice for someone
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so with such killing intent. I mean, I don't want to get to
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pill it. Also, I'll leave it there.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Safeguarding questions for the
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Vatican aside. Yeah, yeah, great description.
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And that's where we get up to is them facing off really.
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And in the third episode, you see the the there's like an
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ambush on the Helsing organization's headquarters.
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And you have like a kind of board of directors are all
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there. And obviously they're all these
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like very posh toffs who are falling apart.
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And then Integris like badass being like, pull your shit
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together, Like sort this out. My people are dying.
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So like, suck it up. Yeah.
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Yeah. Because Integra, which is she's
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a badass, basically, she's a cigar smoking gun Toten.
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She's she's the kind of she's the kind of character that puts
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her feet up on a big orc desk. She like exceeds.
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Power and. You're like, yeah, she's the
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boss. She's the boss from the
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beginning. She's the boss and also a little
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bit gender fucky, like gender nonconforming in terms of her
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depiction of the character. And you have other like female
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characters in this that are very typical anime hyper, hyper
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feminine, hyper sexualized characters like Sarah's
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Victoria. And Integra has nothing of that
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in her, which we'll get into in a bit more.
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But like, how would you pitch this to like a non anime
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watching fan? What's your like elevator pitch
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for Helsing Ultimate? I would say right sorry for the
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monsters up north community, but do you know how Nosferatu is
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boring? Yes.
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Yeah. Yes, and Sami and Dama.
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I love you, but yes. I'm only apologizing to them,
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not for me opinion and but you know how that's.
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I'd like to apologize for Chris's opinion, but I do agree
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with that. Yeah, so imagine if they took
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them key concepts where it's like a monster and violence and
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mystery and horror, blood goods, gore, and cranked it up to 10
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and made it interesting. Yeah.
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And then you get Helsing Ultimate.
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Yeah, because even even Dracula, it hasn't got that slow
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suspenseful horror or the creepiness.
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It is literally blood, good score and a cult.
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It's got Nazis in it as well. Yeah, it hasn't.
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It's got Nazis. And a blimp, yes.
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Which makes it really hard to place as like the time period of
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like what the hell is happening? Yeah, yeah.
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Yeah, yeah. But because of that, I kind of
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loved it that. And actually there is something
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that happens in this where you're seeing the reason.
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One of the reasons I love this so much, and I find it so funny,
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is that you're seeing England through Japan's eyes.
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Yeah, yes. So you're seeing.
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All of the stereotypes about that we aren't aware of about
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ourselves. Yeah.
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And some of them are like wild, like the blimp.
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Thing I like that stereotype. I I'm here for a vessel and also
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I'm here for like the in according to Helsing Ultimate.
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You're either from one of the Celtic countries, but you will
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sound Irish no matter what, or you're posh or cockney.
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That is it that those are the only stereotypes that you have
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in this and everyone, everyone conforms to one of one of those
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3. Whore.
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Blimey, is that a vampire? Bollocks.
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Literally at one point, literally once someone says call
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Blimey and I died laughing because it's like, I think I had
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the same experience watching this that you had watching
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Steamboy where you're hearing like your native accent being
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done questionably. Yeah, yeah.
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But like it's so like it's, it's not great voice acting, but it
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is funny voice acting and it doesn't, I don't think it
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detracts from the actual story of it because all the the very
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dramatic bits, the acting is great.
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It's just like the random background characters are
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sometimes a bit questionable. Yeah, I mean, I don't know.
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I mean, even the guy, the Andrew guy from the Iscari
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organization, he's from Northern Ireland.
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He runs an orphanarium or an orphanage in Northern Ireland
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or. Yeah, that's the new word for
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it. Yeah, or child soldier camp.
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I don't know what's. Orphanarium.
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It sounds very whimsical, doesn't it?
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And this isn't where sad children live.
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Smile, smile. Smile, children, smile for the
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organ grinder. I'm sure it's our feature of
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ours. But yeah, he's got a very
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Scottish accent as well. But he is working for an Italian
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organization for the Pope. At some point, he's speaking.
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He's actually speaking Latin at some point.
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And you're like, that's interesting.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Didn't call that.
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I have seen this many many years ago but I cannot remember it and
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I forgot that each episodes like 50 minutes long because it's
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like feature length episodes. Yeah, yeah.
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And it's a lot. It's actually, there's only one
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series, right. But it's it's actually quite a
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meaty series because of the episode length.
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And quite a lot happens in each episode, like they don't sit
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around for long and you start right in the middle of a fight
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basically. Yeah.
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Because you start with like, the ghoul takeover of that church
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and the police trying to like, Scotland Yard.
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Scotland Yard, yeah, yeah, they've come to stop them.
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Stop them nasties. Stop them nasties.
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From nasties and and immediately you introduce to this character
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who is I think Sarah's Victoria is a bit Mary Sue, especially
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the first couple of episodes because she's used almost purely
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for exposition. She's she's got very little
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character of her own and she asks a lot of very stupid
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questions because she's there to get information for the
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audience. She's more of a plot device than
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a character. And it's not until you see her
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later, her on when she started to come into her own kind of
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powers that she actually had get some meat on her bones.
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Yeah. But yeah, there are some very
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good characters from the start. Did you have a favorite?
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Who's your favorite character? Integra.
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Yeah. She's cool.
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I think when I was first thinking about this, I was
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struggling to find a good character and because I look
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hard, he's a he's OP. Like any situation, it's just
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like he's got he's going to get out of it and he knows it.
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You know it. And sometimes even the guys he's
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fighting know it. It's just the way he does it.
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You watch it for and and it's. So dramatic.
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It's very gothic in terms of the type of yeah.
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Oh yeah, definitely the. Type of special effects.
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And then what's the I'm blanking on her name.
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The the new vampire. Sarah.
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Sarah. Sarah's Victoria.
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Yeah, I don't like her, even if if she's used for exposition.
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Just just have a voice over Couple of blobs.
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A test next. Damning when one of the main
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characters could just be replaced with voice over awesome
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subtitles. Yeah, she.
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Is a bit that and I also find her like it's.
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I find it weird how hyper sexualized she is for someone
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who is supposed to be like virginal.
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But she literally is. She's literally virgin virgin
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and very she's she's very high pitched.
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I find her hard to like care whether she lives or dies to.
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Be honest in the beginning. I just don't care.
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I mean, I don't think she says a word before she is transformed
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into a vampire because is it it's the first first episode
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where basically Alacord has been sent to deal with it with
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another vampire that's in Venus Town or a church or whatever,
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and she's a police woman and all of the other policemen or police
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people are have been slaughters to the ghouls, etcetera.
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And the bad guy vampire that really has Sarah's by the throat
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being like I'm going to kill her, What you're going to do?
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And I look conscious to say, all right, shoot, you owe me half a
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mile long. Good.
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And he was like before this. He's like.
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Are you a virgin? That's.
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Are you a virgin? He.
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Asks her. And then the bad guy vampires
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say you can't. It's like, I'm sorry, what?
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And the vampire the the bad guy vampire's right.
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You can't ask a woman that in the middle of a gunfight.
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It's inappropriate. Yeah, yeah.
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Yeah, yeah. But what he knows is that if
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she's a virgin, she can be turned into a vampire, whereas
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apparently if you are not a virgin, you just become some
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sort of mindless zombie ghoul. Yeah, that's how.
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That's how new vampires are made in this.
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That's how that's part of this vampire law, which I think I, I
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think is kind of a nod to some of the Bram Stoker stuff with
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Mina, Mina Harper. I've no clue about this.
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OK, so Bram Stoker's vampire. So you've got Dracula, who kind
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of falls into this very sort of strange toxic seduction with
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Mina Harper, who is the main characters fiance and one of the
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and he kind of does some sort of probing about the nature of
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their relationship before he starts to prey on her in the
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night. And I think it's that kind of,
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you know, can she be my bride kind of vibe.
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That was my Tasmanian voice. So thanks for explaining.
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Impressions are always good if you have to explain them
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afterwards. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I feel like it really adds a level of integrity to it, don't
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you? Integra, right?
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Talking of Integra, Integra is my favorite character as well.
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She's by far the coolest one of the coolest women in anime, full
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stop. I think she's best character.
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She's the best character. She's incredibly unlikable to
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start with as well. And you see some like like in I
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think they I think they use flashbacks very effectively in
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this to kind of give, give you her back story.
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And then you realize how much of A badass she is and how she's
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always been a bit of a badass. And we're here for it.
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How's your how's your your sorret N loaf?
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Me what? You're sorret N Loaf.
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I'm now deliberately mispronouncing it.
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It's it's all right, it's cookies and cream.
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I would I would have preferred like the original brown flavour.
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Nothing says flavour like brown. Stop me, dear, with a cup of
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brown. Yeah, yeah.
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I love how it feels like it sticks to your ribs.
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A saurine loaf. Do you know what I mean?
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Yeah, this doesn't have that end squidginess.
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Yeah. So.
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That's all right. It's a decent cake bar, but you
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know. To me it's a serene loaf.
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Should stick to the window. If you took it off it, this
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wouldn't. Yes.
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And it should have butter so thick that you're like, you're
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not quite sure when you're going to get to the the.
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Do you know what I mean? It should be like a slab of
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butter. Yeah.
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Yeah. Healthy snack.
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Yeah, yeah, healthy snack. Yeah.
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So Integra is amazing. Alicard is Opie and a bit and a
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bit edge lordy. He's a bit like, he reminds me
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of like my first DND character. Do you know what I mean?
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Like he's like, I'm going to play a creature of the night and
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they're going to be amazingly powerful and they're going to be
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able to do all these cool things.
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And really his own only weaknesses.
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He can't go outside during the day.
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He. Can't though, he's just a bit
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weaker. He's just a bit weaker.
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Do you know, I totally agree And do you know what sealed the deal
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for me for the edge load? Little look, me, I'm dark and
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brooding and I'm mental kind of like it was, do you know in the
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in the hotel room and he's talking to Integra and he's just
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like I'm being surrounded by a SWAT team.
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If they come in here, I'm going to RIP them a whole new water.
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I'm going to do this, and I'm going to feast on their blood
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and, I don't know, tickle their insides, all this kind of stuff.
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And he's like, all I need is your permission.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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I might have had a different dub to you.
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Yeah. I think you might have done.
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I also don't remember the hotel room, so I'm kind of curious
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what the you're watching oh do. You know when they're in.
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Is it Brazil? Oh, yeah, Yeah, you're OK.
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Yeah, yeah. So the SWAT team storms a
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building and he just. Just annihilates everyone.
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Yeah, and they're like, but they're innocent policemen.
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They might be stupid, but they're innocent.
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Is that all right, mate? Whatever.
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The outside, didn't they? Yeah.
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I'm Alucod bitch, that's basically what he does.
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Yeah, and there is something about Vampire I so I because I
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was thinking about this, like is it good or bad that Alucard is
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Opie? And I think there is something
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about vampires where they're always a little bit Opie because
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do you know who else was Opie? Vampire Hunter D Vampire Hunter
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D is like massively Opie. Like he's like killing all these
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monsters, like as if it's no thing.
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Right, if we're comparing those two right, Vampire Hunter D had
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his weakness was probably compassion because you could
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have just walked away if that was if that was Alacord and he
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saw that last he. Still had a human heart.
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Yeah, and that last came out of with a whip and said, oh, can
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you help us? I've been bitten.
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You'd be like Nah, and credits roll.
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And then you would have asked if she was a virgin.
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Let. Me just check first.
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Are you who's the last person you dated?
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It reminds me a little bit of like awkward first dates where
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you're trying to do like relationship history, but
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without giving too much away, that's what the first episode
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where he's like, are you a virgin?
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It's like, oh, this is this dates going badly.
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Have you ever seen them toast? Oh yeah, do.
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You know what he's saying, Curry.
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Do you know what he's to say? Do you know when he does things
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like carries drinks for women? And then I mentioned the
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girlfriend and boyfriend and he goes fuck off and chucks on the
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ground. That's what it's.
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There's a touch of the and also because he's in what we do in
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the shadows talk about great vampire shows.
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Matt Berry plays and he's kind of he's kind of like toast as a
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vampire in that. But there is a touch of the
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avocado, like, very dramatic. Yeah.
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Great great show currently. Watching that a little bit.
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Actually, are you? Oh that's a good one to watch
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over Halloween I reckon. German, Yeah.
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Yeah. Anyway, Helsing.
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So good with her tiny doll. So funny.
28:48
I also love the witch hat. Anyway, Helsing a lot about
28:52
those other vampires, back to Helsing.
28:55
So one of the beautiful things in this is you're watching like
28:58
all of the English stereotypes thrown back at you from from
29:04
Japan's perspective. What do you think they get
29:06
really right? What do you think they get
29:08
really wrong? And what is a stereotype that
29:10
you think is missing from Helsing Ultimate that you would
29:14
like to see in there? Oh, right, so stereotypes are
29:22
the accents aren't there really. Because, I mean, there's nothing
29:28
stereotypical about a private militia.
29:30
They've got the castles as well. Yeah.
29:38
What I would like to see though, I don't know, maybe it's more
29:45
people complaining about mundane things, but yeah, there's a
29:50
vampire. But it's raining, isn't it?
29:54
No. 70 pence for a stump now just my.
29:57
Luck. I left my umbrella in the car.
30:04
Next door neighbors been eaten by a ghoul, but you see the
30:06
price of bread. Literally I was having that
30:10
conversation earlier today. Not the Gulbert, all right.
30:17
Oh yes, we were. Bread bet Yeah, we literally
30:20
weren't complaining about the price of bread.
30:23
The north-south divide. Bread down here is really
30:27
expensive, is what I learned and it made me angry.
30:31
You were genuinely angry though. I was genuinely angry.
30:37
Next time you come up, bring your keys and.
30:41
Just load up. It'll be like people who go to
30:43
France. I'll be going to get white up
30:46
north. Just to go to the bakery.
30:48
Yeah. And instead of coming back with
30:50
cigarettes and wine, I'll just come back with a load of Hovis.
30:55
Literally. It's not even like this is what
30:58
made me mad is it's not even like just like a local bakery,
31:01
price of bread. This is like something that
31:04
should nationally be a price. Yeah, infuriating.
31:10
Anyway, price of living. Closer to London.
31:18
Yeah, you're right. I think it doesn't need more
31:20
complaining to be truly English. And also the the stereotypes for
31:28
the, the kind of run with a lot of it.
31:30
And they're like, oh, those, those Catholics don't like the
31:34
Protestants in Ireland, do they? This is this was something that
31:40
I also thought was interesting about seeing your culture
31:43
through someone else's eyes. It could because I was like,
31:45
off, like, this is what it feels like to be culturally
31:49
appropriated, which is an unusual experience.
31:51
Usually as white people, we don't have to worry about that
31:53
because we're usually the criminals doing it.
31:58
But it's this history of like, Catholics and Protestants,
32:01
Protestants. It's like all of the surface
32:04
themes and that they hit all the notes for Catholics hating
32:08
Protestants and vice versa, but without any of the historical
32:12
context. So like to like why that is the
32:16
case. And that's kind of a beautiful
32:18
thing. I found that quite entertaining.
32:23
It's a novelty when it happens. To you, it's a novelty when it
32:27
happens to me And isn't that a good like, isn't that a lovely
32:30
position to be? And I feel very privileged that
32:32
it's a novelty. Some would call it a privilege.
32:36
I, I don't think some would, I think we should all call it a
32:39
privilege. I, I definitely, I'm owning it.
32:45
I know it's a privilege, but as a lapsed Catholic, it did make
32:49
me, there were a few times where I'm like, I don't think that's,
32:51
I don't think that's actually, that's not quite Catholic.
32:55
Like it's like, it's like nearly Catholic, but not quite.
33:02
Do Catholics not carry around blessed swords and throw Bible
33:06
pages at them on dead creatures? Yes, but not quite the same.
33:11
Not quite the same way. OK, OK.
33:16
Yeah, yeah. So no, I kind of like, I do kind
33:20
of love it and for it beings like for the Catholic Church as
33:23
well-being in Northern Ireland. I was like, that needs to be
33:26
more of a thing, especially when this was this was like first
33:31
released. Yeah, which I can't remember.
33:35
I think it was like 2006 or something.
33:39
I don't. I don't actually have the date.
33:42
Oh, that's off the top of my head. 2001. 2001 here we go.
33:51
How do you feel like in terms of animation wise?
33:54
How do you feel it held up? Because 2001. 24 years ago.
34:01
Yeah M it it's held up amazed that it looks spot on and even
34:07
for like the budget must have been quite big on this because
34:10
it's not like 50 minutes of like high quality anime, especially
34:14
then. Yeah, yeah.
34:16
And the time as well. I think so.
34:19
And also the colouring is is gorgeous in this.
34:23
It's very, very like stylish. A lot of black, a lot of red,
34:27
which is exactly what you want in a gothic E vampire delight.
34:32
But I also love the character design in this.
34:36
Right. And there are some other
34:38
characters that crop up later on, like Pip.
34:44
Pip was his name. Benedict, Benedict, Benedict
34:46
Benedict. He's.
34:50
One of the yes. Who's just a great, great
34:56
character and and actually might be like if we were doing more
35:00
than episode like 3 episodes would have like could have been
35:04
a contender for my favorite character.
35:08
Jordan is I forgot about him because he he's introduced
35:11
episode 3 or 4. He's introduced at the episode
35:15
4, I think when it's when they get all the mercenaries
35:18
together. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
35:22
And then Sarah is kind of Chins 1.
35:25
Yeah, yeah. But yeah, he's like, he reminded
35:30
me so much. Kind of like Spike Spiegel.
35:34
Very Spike Spiegel character. Very like cool, but without
35:37
being like. Incompetent.
35:41
That makes sense. He's.
35:42
Competent. He's competent.
35:44
He's competent and goofy enough that you're like, oh, this guy
35:47
doesn't care what anyone thinks. It's but you know, like those.
35:50
People who are effortlessly cool.
35:53
Yeah, he is like a very severe disadvantage because he's just a
35:58
normal human. He's he's got a lot of
36:00
experience fighting as a mercenary, but he's never going
36:04
to live up to a vampire and strength wise or so he's kind of
36:09
got to do the the background sneaky, sneaky parts and
36:14
navigate the human world as opposed to Alucard who goes in
36:17
guns blazing. Yeah, and he also has to do
36:20
teamwork as well. So that's where you see like you
36:24
see him as like a kind of like the face of the human side of
36:28
the Helsing organization almost, even though it's mostly
36:31
mercenaries, which I kind of. Yeah, you can't.
36:35
I kind of love because Integra is the only kind of really other
36:38
main human character. And you, you don't ever see like
36:44
goofiness or softness from her because she's the boss and
36:47
she's. A boss bitch.
36:48
From start to finish. There's Walter.
36:54
Oh, there's also Walter. He's another great character.
36:58
I kind of love him. I can't remember what his his
37:01
nickname is. I'm just looking for it now.
37:04
Yeah, so he's so good and he's like Integra's Butler, who you
37:11
then find out is crazy, like a crazy strong assassin, which I
37:18
can't again really love. And he's like an older guy as
37:21
well. An Angel of death.
37:25
The Angel of Death. As if the Angel of death rides
37:27
again. Do they water?
37:29
One of the most dramatic lines ever to be acted in an anime.
37:32
So good. I found that crazy.
37:37
No. Oh, I loved it.
37:40
I loved that. No, I just, so what's this,
37:44
2001? I imagined I was 11 when this
37:46
came out. So I can imagine like a 12/11/12
37:49
year old saying, oh, so the Angel of death rides again, my
37:52
lady? Kind of, yeah.
37:54
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But, but I kind of love that.
37:59
There's part of me that's like, Oh no, give me the real gothic
38:02
dramatic. Like if you can't say it in a
38:05
show like Helsing, when can you say it?
38:08
True, true you. Know what I mean?
38:11
Like, I get that it is cringy in any other show, but in this it's
38:14
perfect for the setting because it's a little bit Hammer Horror
38:18
in its delivery at times. And I can imagine Walter being,
38:23
you know, who's that famous Hammer Horror actor, you know
38:29
the one. Tooty help a girl out.
38:31
Are you in the chat? Tooty knows what I mean.
38:37
Vincent Price. Oh, Vincent Price, the famous
38:41
kook. I can imagine famous kook, I can
38:45
imagine, I can imagine Walter being played by a Vincent Price
38:52
type actor. Do you know what I mean?
38:54
Like someone who's got like, who's like very classically
38:57
trained. So I can see where you're coming
39:00
from, but looking at the, it could be basically uses string
39:04
and very impressive feats of like athleticism.
39:08
I can't see him doing that because when I think of, I think
39:12
of Vincent Price. I think of a very like, nobody
39:17
looks like Vincent Price. It'd be impossible to stand
39:23
double for. Yeah, it'd be like, do you know
39:27
them horrible like the B films, B movie films where they have
39:31
like someone who's too old doodle and stunts and they don't
39:33
have any equivalent looking and it does a quick look where
39:36
someone's wearing a dodgy wig for a second.
39:38
It'll be one of them. I'll be so into it.
39:43
OK, so here's here's my other question.
39:45
If you were going to cast actors, As for like the main
39:48
characters, who are you casting? So who are you casting for
39:52
Walter then? If it's not Vincent Price, who's
39:58
your fantasy? Fantasy live action.
40:03
Race because. I'll tell you who my second
40:04
person is for, for Walter Gary Oldman.
40:10
Oh yeah, see, I was thinking to the guy that voices Solid Snake,
40:14
but yeah, Gary Oldman. Oh, the guy who voices Solid
40:18
Snakes? A good shout.
40:20
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I. Can't remember what he's called
40:23
now. I love you.
40:28
Mr. Mr. Solid himself. Mr. Solid himself, I know who
40:32
you. Mean David Hayter.
40:34
Yeah, that's it. Yeah, yeah.
40:37
Yeah, he'd be a good shout. Him or Gary Oldman would be
40:40
great. Integra.
40:42
And the, the I can only sometimes remember her name and
40:48
the she's in Constantine, she plays Gabriel, She's the very
40:53
asexual Tilda Swinton. Tilda Swinton.
40:56
So I was. Thinking Tilda Swinton.
40:58
Do you know the other person? I thought, who's the one who
41:00
plays the very tall one in Game of Thrones and she's also
41:04
Phasma. Yes, yes, yes, yes.
41:06
I don't know what name but it. Would be amazing, you know?
41:08
Who? I mean, yes.
41:10
Who plays what? Brianna of Brianna of Tarth,
41:13
Yeah, Yeah, that's who I would also choose for an.
41:18
Intellectual. Would you give her a long?
41:20
Hair. Yeah, and I reckon she'd still
41:23
look asexual and amazing. OK.
41:28
And also, who's the other person who's in Lord of the Rings who I
41:31
always get mixed up with? Tilda.
41:32
Sweet. Cate Blanchett would also be a
41:34
good shout if Tilda and I always get her and Tilda mixed up.
41:39
And if Tilda's not around, let's call get Cate Blanchett and get
41:42
her in the role. Who you?
41:47
Who are you casting as Alucard? The guy who plays Lucifer in
41:55
Lucifer, yes. Excellent shout.
42:00
Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a good one.
42:03
Yeah. Do you know who I'll find with
42:06
my cast? Henry Cavill.
42:08
Just because If you're going to get someone to be OP, get in
42:12
Henry Cavill. He'll make it likable.
42:16
I think he's too beefy and not he hasn't got to, he hasn't got
42:20
a last turn it off. You think?
42:23
Yeah, he hasn't got that slick. Needs to be a bit more slick.
42:28
Slick talking. Charming.
42:30
Yeah, I think he could. Be a bit too rough and rugged
42:33
for you for an Alicard. Yeah, he needs to be like a bit
42:37
sleek. A bit.
42:39
Oh, who's your man? Who's in?
42:42
Oh, is it the book? Who's the guy who's in like
42:51
those Wes Anderson films? Adrian something Childs.
43:05
I would get Adrian Childs. Is it bro?
43:12
Is Adrian Brody? Yeah.
43:14
You know. What I mean?
43:16
I'm absolutely rubbish with actor actors names.
43:20
Oh, I think he might be in the pianist as well.
43:22
Oh, him. With the yeah, with the yeah,
43:26
he's good. He's just like a tall.
43:29
Very good face, yeah. Tall, lanky guy.
43:33
Yeah, yeah, yeah, very tall, very lanky.
43:35
I think he would actually do quite a good out of card as
43:37
well. I mean I think he's also like
43:40
massively out class Oscar winning.
43:46
I'm doing this at live action anime film.
43:49
Maybe as a kid who likes it. Maybe.
43:52
And then Sarah's Victoria. I'd cast Scarlett Johansson.
43:56
For the boobs. Because of the boobs, Yeah.
44:00
And she's quite cute, yeah. I agree with that.
44:07
OK. Yeah, yeah, nice, good casting.
44:12
Get me? So we think.
44:15
Let's get it made. I'll send the emails.
44:18
You, me and nerdy up north. So will you be watching past
44:26
episode 3? Are you going to finish it off
44:30
or you do you think a couple like get you?
44:32
Well you watched into episode 4, so you have already watched past
44:36
episode 3. I think I'm up to six.
44:39
So yeah, yeah. Well, join it.
44:44
I really like it. I know it's it's, it is quite
44:47
gory, quite violent, but it is a very switch off an away for me.
44:55
Do you know what? Weirdly, me too.
44:56
And I think it's because the violence is so like, it's
45:01
graphic violence. It's not like hyper realistic.
45:05
Do you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah.
45:07
Yeah, yeah, it's cartoon violence at its best.
45:13
Yeah, yeah, yeah, agree with that.
45:15
But yeah, I think it's like it's one of them ones that you can't
45:18
put on the background. Plus the violets are kind of
45:21
like you kind of get numb to it after a little bit as well
45:26
because you're like, oh, that that like a la carte gets
45:29
riddled with bullets and constantly it's just like he's
45:33
not even trying to dodge anyway. But.
45:36
By the end of episode 1, he's Swiss cheese.
45:39
Yeah, literally. It's to say, oh, my body parts
45:42
fall off and everything regenerate, whatever.
45:48
Amala God. At one point, he writes a
45:50
message to Sarah's Victoria in his own blood, with a severed
45:54
hand. Yeah, which drink is just saying
45:58
drink my blood. Saying drink my blood if you
46:01
want to live. Yeah.
46:07
I love this anime. I.
46:09
Do I really love it? It's so cheesy and it's so edgy,
46:13
like in sometimes in a cringy way, but I just love it.
46:17
I think it's a good time and if you like violence and you like
46:19
gothic horror then Helsing I think is probably one of the
46:24
better animes for you. Yeah, actually I did forget the
46:29
mention as well. Do you know how we're talking
46:31
about like the view, the English stereotype with all the accents
46:37
and stuff that let's talk about the German stereotypes that are
46:41
on here? Right, There is only one German
46:44
stereotype in here, and it's bad.
46:48
I know, but it's comically done because obviously, obviously the
46:52
Nazis, right. So in in one of the episodes
46:55
they're meant to do like a Recon thing where they're meant to be
46:58
meeting in secret. And it's just like, what mode of
47:00
transport would you take? I know a big Zeppelin.
47:06
They've got over the top German. Accents notorious for stealth.
47:12
Yeah, Zeppelin. Yeah.
47:15
No, no, Let's see that coming. Yeah, they're trying to make a
47:19
quick getaway and it's like, oh, let's go.
47:22
Let's go to our emergency. Zeppelin, if you must.
47:27
Go to Zeppelin. It is that.
47:29
That's the accent as well. It is that's pain that's not
47:32
painful at times. The other thing I can't love to
47:35
say One last thing before we wrap up.
47:38
You know how in in manga at the back, you always have like a
47:40
message from the manga car and they do like a little like
47:43
version of themselves and sometimes they're like a cute
47:45
dog or it's their cat talking to you as like from the manga car.
47:50
In this, it's the Baron Harkonnen from June, which is I
47:56
know, so all of the like behind the scenes information that they
48:00
give you at the back of the mango is it's all delivered to
48:02
you by the Baron Harkonnen from June.
48:05
But from from the sting, like the 1970s version, the 1970s,
48:10
like the David Lynch version of June, it's that version of the
48:13
Baron Harkonnen and it's wild. It doesn't make any sense, but I
48:18
love it. And that's another reason to
48:19
love this. Because clearly.
48:22
I didn't know that. Back to June.
48:24
I've never actually seen the original Dune as well.
48:28
Have you not? No.
48:29
It's weird, it's surreal. That's a good.
48:32
It'd be a good Top Grumps one actually.
48:34
To be fair, I remember a long time ago, you know, when the
48:37
remix came out and I did ask me dad, I was like, oh, have you
48:41
seen this before? You went yet?
48:42
Shit, don't watch it. I actually don't love it as a
48:48
version of G. Like I love it because for a
48:50
while it was the only version of June, but it's not.
48:54
I think the newest cinematic adaptations are better but like
48:58
a long shot. Yeah.
49:01
Yeah, yeah, but David, David Lynch puts his own stamp on it
49:05
and makes it weird and that's fun.
49:08
But yeah, so everything comes back to June.
49:10
Go watch Helsing Ultimate. We recommend it.
49:13
Sandworms. Happy nearly Halloween.
49:17
What we got coming up next week, Chris.
49:21
I don't know. Yes you do.
49:24
We filmed it on Wednesday. Oh, next week, Oh yes, we've got
49:27
the we've got an amazing guest next week and we are going to do
49:32
Junji Idos Uzumaki, who's an amazing manga horror artist.
49:38
And even if you don't watch the episode, have a look at some of
49:42
these stuff if you do, because everything is so detailed and so
49:45
amazing. The like imagery, which kind of
49:49
shows off in this Man anime adaptation looks absolutely
49:53
unreal. We talk about it with an artist
49:56
next week, so we get that kind of prescribing.
49:59
I'm not saying that you're not an artist, Phoebe, because I
50:00
know you do art. No, but like I'm nothing
50:03
compelled to. So we've got LJ Matthews who
50:06
genuinely is like an actual very talented artist and off is
50:10
inspired like some of their work she was saying is inspired by
50:14
Gigi Ito. So hearing her talk about it is
50:17
really great. Yeah.
50:19
Yeah, I, I felt like I was just really enjoying just just
50:22
listening to her. I can listen to her talk all
50:24
day. And she's dead cunny.
50:28
Yeah, she's really great. So that'll be next week at 8:00
50:32
PM and we're going to have another Straw chat as well at 7
50:36
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50:46
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51:05
Because everyone's got a favorite vampire story and we'd
51:08
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51:10
should be watching all of the scale vampire things.
51:17
I. Was going to give it a second go
51:18
and see if it got any better. I think got worse.
51:21
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