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The Kenny Report | 29 June · The Kenny Report

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  Speaker 1: Line from the Sky New Center. This is the Kenny Report,
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  Speaker 1: thanks ed tonight.
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  Speaker 2: The poles give Labor a bit of a boost, but
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  Speaker 2: it's actually the Coalition that's letting Anthony Albernezi off the hook.
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  Speaker 2: The terrorism threat in Australia, the more than probable risk
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  Speaker 2: of another terror attack, and the evil role of Iran.
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  Speaker 2: The Bondi Royal Commission hears how social media helps to
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  Speaker 2: spread the lies and the hatred, and will also head
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  Speaker 2: inland to meet an Iranian immigrant who's helping tourists check
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  Speaker 2: out the wonder of Lake ere in flood. Also Gematon
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  Speaker 2: Uni and Caroline Russo on the Liberals and rebranding.
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  Speaker 1: Let's get into it.
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  Speaker 2: So another pole, another dose of bad news for the
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  Speaker 2: Liberals for the Coalition. The real story is really about
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  Speaker 2: both major parties both on the nose like never before.
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  Speaker 2: On first preferences, Labor recovered three points from thirty to
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  Speaker 2: thirty three. The Coalition slipped back even further to seventeen percent,
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  Speaker 2: an all time low. That's just forty percent all up
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  Speaker 2: for the major parties, and then one nation falling a
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  Speaker 2: little to twenty nine percent.
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  Speaker 1: All on their own.
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  Speaker 2: Now, all those changes are within the poll's margin of era,
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  Speaker 2: so I wouldn't be too excited one way or the
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  Speaker 2: other about the changes. The real story is that Labor
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  Speaker 2: are struggling to win a third of.
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  Speaker 1: The primary vote.
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  Speaker 2: The Coalition is faring much worse, with support from less
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  Speaker 2: than one in five voters, and One Nation the anti
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  Speaker 2: major party party is reaping the rewards, winning favor from
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  Speaker 2: close to a third of all voters. Voters are not
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  Speaker 2: happy with the government all with the country, but they're
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  Speaker 2: not flocking to the Coalition as the alternative. They're saying
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  Speaker 2: the major parties are culpable and they're protesting through Pauline
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  Speaker 2: Hansen and One Nation, the Coalition making a few mistakes
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  Speaker 2: in response like this.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's time for the Liberal Party to rebrand itself.
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  Speaker 3: Some people think that we're stuck in the past and
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  Speaker 3: our policies need to resonate with the Australia of today
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  Speaker 3: and the future. So I think it'd be really good
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  Speaker 3: time for us to revisit our values, what we stand for,
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  Speaker 3: and the way we project ourselves to Australians.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, the problem there is the Liberals talking about themselves
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  Speaker 2: and looking for easy answers. The Coalition keeps talking about
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  Speaker 2: its own problems, its own political settings, for heaven's sake,
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  Speaker 2: talk about voters, talk about how they're getting screwed over
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  Speaker 2: by labor, and talk about how you'll fix the country,
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  Speaker 2: not how you'll fix yourselves. Talking about the fixing of
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  Speaker 2: the country. It was such a gift, all this talk that,
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  Speaker 2: of course the Prime Minister couldn't resist.
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  Speaker 4: No wonder they're struggling over there, missus Speaker. We had
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  Speaker 4: a shadow minister earlier today speak about abandoning the Liberal
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  Speaker 4: Party name Dowdow minister has said this, some people think
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  Speaker 4: that we're stuck in the past and our policies need
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  Speaker 4: to resonate with Australia today in the future. So I
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  Speaker 4: think it'll be a really good time for us to
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  Speaker 4: revisit our values, what we stand for, and the way
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  Speaker 4: we project ourselves. She went on to say, we need
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  Speaker 4: to get some experts in.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, the Liberals' woes and their self fascination is just
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  Speaker 2: letting a prime minister who's lied to voters, broken promises
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  Speaker 2: and is dealing with the worst budget and living memory. Well,
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  Speaker 2: the Libs are letting that Prime minister off the hook.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, look at him now, he's testy, he's arrogant
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  Speaker 2: and he's right for the picking.
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  Speaker 3: Keep going, keep going?
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  Speaker 1: How hard is it going? I put further, Yeah, how
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  Speaker 1: hard can it be?
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  Speaker 5: Like?
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  Speaker 2: How hard is it to keep your word? How hard
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  Speaker 2: is it to tell the truth? The Coalition are making
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  Speaker 2: it easier for Albo than it should be. And then,
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  Speaker 2: of course, as part of all this, there's the clown
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  Speaker 2: show in Victoria. I mean, Victoria has a hopeless and
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  Speaker 2: unpopular labor government. People are desperate for change, and it
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  Speaker 2: happens to be the next major election in the country,
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  Speaker 2: a state election in Victoria in November. Yet the Liberals
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  Speaker 2: keep making themselves the issue. Prominent Liberal MP Mourria Moira Deeming,
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  Speaker 2: who successfully sued former Liberal leader John Persuito for defamation,
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  Speaker 2: effectively ending his political career, well, she made a police
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  Speaker 2: complaint against another former leader, Matthew Guy, that became public
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  Speaker 2: last week. As you would have heard, this is the
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  Speaker 2: episode in question, which Deeming described as a physical assault,
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  Speaker 2: complaining that she was grabbed and held in some kind
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  Speaker 2: of headlock, which was painful, she said. Now police dismissed
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  Speaker 2: this complaint and Guy had this to say late last week.
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  Speaker 5: To Ossie Mails who were sick of this treatment, who
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  Speaker 5: was sick of not being believed.
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  Speaker 1: Some of us in Parliament still have your back. I
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  Speaker 1: have your back.
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  Speaker 5: Your word matters as much as anyone else's.
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  Speaker 2: While the saga continues today, Deeming has lashed out at critics,
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  Speaker 2: refused to apologize and says any allegation she made.
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  Speaker 1: A false report would be defamatory.
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  Speaker 2: Deming says she never wanted this made public, she misunderstood
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  Speaker 2: the meaning of the term headlock, and her experience has
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  Speaker 2: been exacerbated by her history as a victim of sexual abuse.
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  Speaker 2: Deeming maintains that in this episode, so the physical contact
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  Speaker 2: from Guy was unexpected, unwelcome and physically painful.
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  Speaker 1: Now make of that what you will.
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  Speaker 2: This is now another internal crisis for the Victorian Liberals.
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  Speaker 2: They need to find a way to work together. Their
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  Speaker 2: main job should be trying to win government later this year.
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  Speaker 2: Their main target should be labor and this is.
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  Speaker 1: What we get.
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  Speaker 2: Is it any wonder the coalition is struggling in the polls.
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  Speaker 2: Voters are crying out for politicians to focus on their issues.
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  Speaker 1: One nation might not have.
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  Speaker 2: The solutions, but it's sure as hell has drawn attention
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  Speaker 2: to issues like immigration in the housing crisis and net
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  Speaker 2: zero and power prices, issues that the Coalition ought to
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  Speaker 2: be leading on.
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  Speaker 1: As long as it keeps talking.
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  Speaker 2: About itself, the slide will continue for the coalition. The
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  Speaker 2: Bondi Royal Commission was back in session today and it
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  Speaker 2: was finally focusing on the role of some of the
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  Speaker 2: media in spreading antisemitism, in promoting due hatred in the
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  Speaker 2: lead up to the Bondai massacre and even afterwards.
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  Speaker 1: One of the.
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  Speaker 2: People giving evidence was Arson of Strotsky, who came within
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  Speaker 2: millimeters of death at Bondai, a warning that I'll show
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  Speaker 2: you some graphic pictures of this happening here now. During
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  Speaker 2: the massacre, a bullet hit him, spilling a lot of blood,
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  Speaker 2: forcing surgery, but sparing him drastic physical harm, thankfully. But
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  Speaker 2: even as he was going in for surgery, the lies
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  Speaker 2: had begun. Of Strotsky recounted how social media platforms were
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  Speaker 2: soon full of fake images and fake reports, often Ai
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  Speaker 2: generated that lied about what happened, suggesting he was an
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  Speaker 2: actor or had faked the damage for some sort of
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  Speaker 2: so called false flag operation. Yeah, this was just a
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  Speaker 2: modern incarnation of the age old Jewish conspiracy theories.
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  Speaker 6: A lot of these fake images and conspiracy theories they
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  Speaker 6: keep repeating across a number of platforms, including X and
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  Speaker 6: including YouTube, and they said that report to both of
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  Speaker 6: those two platforms, X and YouTube. Well, I classified that
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  Speaker 6: as abusive behavior when I reported that. The only thing
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  Speaker 6: that X did was just confirm that it received the report.
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  Speaker 1: What a disgrace.
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  Speaker 2: This from a man who with his family fled Russia
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  Speaker 2: because of anti Semitism looking for a new life in Australia.
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  Speaker 6: We were ostracized from society in many ways and made
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  Speaker 6: to feel like the other. And so my parents want
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  Speaker 6: It's very simple. They wanted a life of freedom, of dignity,
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  Speaker 6: of opportunity. We came to Australia, which at the time
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  Speaker 6: opened us with open arms as a beacon of hope.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, so much of that hope has now been dashed
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  Speaker 2: for so many Australians. Australia has let down Jewish migrants
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  Speaker 2: and Jewish Australians like it's never let down any group
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  Speaker 2: of people in our history. Social media has played a
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  Speaker 2: sickening role in misinforming people and in fueling hatred. So too,
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  Speaker 2: as much of the mainstream media, especially the taxpayer funded
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  Speaker 2: media it's run, lies about Israel's actions in Gaza repeatedly,
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  Speaker 2: and it's repeatedly amplified hateful retric against Israel. It's downplayed
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  Speaker 2: anti Semitism as a problem in this country, and it's
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  Speaker 2: failed to call out the Islamist extremist rhetoric directed at Israel.
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  Speaker 1: And Jews in this country.
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  Speaker 2: Meanwhile, the Albanezi Labor government continues to abandon Jewish Australians.
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  Speaker 2: People who have to explain to their children why they
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  Speaker 2: need cement barriers and armed guards at their synagogues and
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  Speaker 2: their schools. Australians who have to think twice about whether
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  Speaker 2: their kids can wear school uniforms that might invite abuse,
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  Speaker 2: and worse, Australians who worry that the very schools and
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  Speaker 2: childcare centers that should be sanctuaries for their children might
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  Speaker 2: indeed be terror targets. Prominent businessman Stephen Lowey's submission today
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  Speaker 2: outlined how one major Jewish school in Sydney spends four
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  Speaker 2: million dollars a year on security, four million dollars a
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  Speaker 2: year just keeping students safe instead of educating them.
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  Speaker 1: What a shocking indictment.
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  Speaker 2: This would be a daily outrage if it was happening
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  Speaker 2: to any other group of Australians.
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  Speaker 1: It would not be tolerated.
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  Speaker 2: If Catholics, Hindus, Muslims, or indigenous or Chinese were forced
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  Speaker 2: to live like this, the country would be moving heaven
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  Speaker 2: and earth. To fix this abomination, we need more urgent action.
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  Speaker 2: We need less tolerance of anti Semitism and Islamist extremism
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  Speaker 2: from the Albanese labor government, which is why the Royal
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  Speaker 2: Commission must call government ministers for cross examination. Home Affairs
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  Speaker 2: Minister Tony Burke must be asked about immigration, security checks
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  Speaker 2: and national security.
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  Speaker 1: He must be asked why.
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  Speaker 2: He has not taken a stronger stand against Islamists extremism,
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  Speaker 2: why he is loath to even mention it. And the
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  Speaker 2: Prime Minister too must be asked by this Royal Commission,
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  Speaker 2: why two and a half years on from public celebrations
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  Speaker 2: of terrorist massacres, and after years of people chanting hatred
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  Speaker 2: against Jews in Israel's and Israel, he has not called
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  Speaker 2: out Muslim leaders or brought them together and demanded an
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  Speaker 2: end to the extremism and intolerance. Has he only fueled
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  Speaker 2: anti Israeli sentiments with his misinformed and misdirected diplomacy, And
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  Speaker 2: why instead of being satisfied with seeing Jewish Australians protected
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  Speaker 2: behind cement barriers and armed guards. Why hasn't he tackled
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  Speaker 2: the hatred instead? If he won't even say the words
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  Speaker 2: Islamist extremism or radical Islam, how can he even start
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  Speaker 2: to fight it? No wonder Albo didn't want this role commission.
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  Speaker 2: It's a daily uncovering of an intolerable and ongoing national
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  Speaker 2: disaster that he's done next to nothing to fix. Let's
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  Speaker 2: go to Canberra now and catch up with Dan teen,
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  Speaker 2: who's the shadow Energy Minister. Good to talk to you, Dan.
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  Speaker 2: It must be depressing to click onto the Australian website
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  Speaker 2: last night or see it this morning and see the
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  Speaker 2: polls get even worse for the coalition.
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  Speaker 7: Well, Chris, as you know, you know you have your
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  Speaker 7: setbacks and we had a big setback at the last election,
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  Speaker 7: like for instance your Crows did at the showdown on
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  Speaker 7: the weekend. But that doesn't mean that you just curl
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  Speaker 7: up in a ball. What it means is you've got
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  Speaker 7: to work harder. You've got a player as a team
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  Speaker 7: and it's been part of a team. All the colleagues
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  Speaker 7: have to get on board the team and you've got
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  Speaker 7: to have a real game plan. Now we've started setting
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  Speaker 7: out that game plan, we've got to keep developing it
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  Speaker 7: and then we've got to put it to the Australian people.
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  Speaker 7: And we've still got a year and a half two
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  Speaker 7: years to go until the next election, and we've got
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  Speaker 7: to make sure we do that hard work and then
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  Speaker 7: be able to present something that's coherent that makes a
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  Speaker 7: clear difference between us and the Labor Party at the
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  Speaker 7: next election. And I think we can put up a
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  Speaker 7: really good show because this is a terrible, terrible Labor
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  Speaker 7: government led by a Labor Prime Minister who can't stop lying.
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  Speaker 1: Mate. I've just had to pick myself up off the floor.
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  Speaker 2: That was a gut punch to me first question of
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  Speaker 2: the show, a gut punch about the showdown. But this
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  Speaker 2: is the point, isn't it. You don't need to be
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  Speaker 2: gut punching me. You need to be gut punching albow.
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  Speaker 1: And the voters are obviously unhappy.
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  Speaker 2: They're not flocking to the coalition, They're going to one
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  Speaker 2: Nation instead.
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  Speaker 1: Why well, you know, we.
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  Speaker 7: Do we do have to be you know, and to
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  Speaker 7: use that term gut punching the Prime ministry.
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  Speaker 8: We've got to keep doing it. Between now and the
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  Speaker 8: next election.
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  Speaker 7: You know, we now know that he's prepared to do
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  Speaker 7: or say anything to lie to the Australian people to
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  Speaker 7: pursue his agenda. And we know that agenda is more taxes,
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  Speaker 7: seventy seven billion dollars.
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  Speaker 8: Worth of more taxes.
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  Speaker 7: We also know that spending is going to hit over
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  Speaker 7: a trillion dollars, so we've got to do the work
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  Speaker 7: to have an alternative.
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  Speaker 8: Now we've started doing that.
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  Speaker 7: We've basically said we want to end bracket crete, which.
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  Speaker 8: You know, for your viewers is when.
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  Speaker 7: Inflation just keeps pushing up the amount of tax that
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  Speaker 7: you pay. We want to stop that so that you'll
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  Speaker 7: actually get a tax tax return to you rather than
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  Speaker 7: what we're seeing from the government, which is they're just
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  Speaker 7: continuing to take your income tax the whole time. We
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  Speaker 7: want to reduce the amount of tax on your capital.
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  Speaker 7: We've got the highest taxing government on capital in the
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  Speaker 7: world in the alban Esi Labor government. These are all
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  Speaker 7: the things that we've got to focus on.
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  Speaker 8: And we're doing the work.
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  Speaker 7: We're doing the work on energy, abolishing net zero, and
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  Speaker 7: we're going to have a very clear alternative to labor government.
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  Speaker 7: We're doing it on the economy, We've just got to
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  Speaker 7: keep rolling the sleeves up and doing the work.
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  Speaker 2: When you look at the broken promises on energy prices,
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  Speaker 2: when you look at the cost of living crisis, when
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  Speaker 2: you look at the broken promises on taxation and negative gearing.
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  Speaker 2: Of course these are strong issues and.
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  Speaker 1: You've got to keep hammering them.
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  Speaker 2: But too many on your own side are talking about
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  Speaker 2: themselves all the time instead of just being focused on
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  Speaker 2: these issues. Is your colleague today, Melissa Macintosh, is the
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  Speaker 2: Liberal Party ought to be rebranded? What do you think
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  Speaker 2: of that idea?
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  Speaker 7: Well, what I want to do, and I'm sure that
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  Speaker 7: all my colleagues want to do, is rebrand the Labor
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  Speaker 7: Party so that every time people think of Anthony Albanesi
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  Speaker 7: they think that's how sadly our lying prime minister. Every
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  Speaker 7: time they think of Anthony Albanese in the Labor government,
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  Speaker 7: they think.
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  Speaker 8: More tax heading our way. They think of corruption.
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  Speaker 7: They've seen what we've seen in Victoria and Queensland and
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  Speaker 7: they want to bring that to Canberra with empowering the
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  Speaker 7: CFM EU. What's happening to their energy prices, They're just
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  Speaker 7: going it's all net zero ideology. It's nothing about making
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  Speaker 7: our power bills more affordable.
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  Speaker 8: That's the branding we need to do.
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  Speaker 7: It's the branding of the Labor Party of what I
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  Speaker 7: think as the worst government in Australia's history, worse than Whitlam.
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  Speaker 8: That's our job. It's rebranding them.
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  Speaker 7: So as soon as the Australian people here Labor or
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  Speaker 7: hear Anthony Albanezi, they just think we've got to get
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  Speaker 7: rid of this terrible government.
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  Speaker 1: On your portfolio.
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  Speaker 2: When it comes to energy, we spoke last week about
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  Speaker 2: the wind droughts in South Australia, what that did to
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  Speaker 2: prices and how unstable the grid was in South Australia
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  Speaker 2: for a long while. There's been a bit more analysis
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  Speaker 2: of that now, some reporting in specialist in specialist media.
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  Speaker 1: Not much mainstream media looking at this.
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  Speaker 2: They should be, because this is a problem coming to
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  Speaker 2: Victoria and coming to New South Wales soon.
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  Speaker 1: I just want to want.
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  Speaker 2: To know what you've discovered about that, what you make
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  Speaker 2: of it. One of the key points I noticed is
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  Speaker 2: that the only thing that really kept South Australian lights
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  Speaker 2: on and industry going during those couple of days was
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  Speaker 2: coal fired power from Victoria, and that's about to go
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  Speaker 2: could put sometime soon too, So how are we going
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  Speaker 2: to be placed?
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  Speaker 9: Then?
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  Speaker 8: Well, we'll be in a terrible situation.
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  Speaker 7: And there is a coal fire generator scheduled to close
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  Speaker 7: in Victoria, another one in twenty twenty eight that's likely
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  Speaker 7: to push power prices up by about ten percent, like
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  Speaker 7: Hazelwod did.
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  Speaker 8: Now things they'll come off a little.
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  Speaker 7: Bit again after that, But this is what's heading our way.
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  Speaker 7: South Australia is absolutely relying on coal from Victoria. We
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  Speaker 7: saw that through this wind drought and we're going to
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  Speaker 7: see this across the Eastern seaboard unless we pursue energy abundance,
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  Speaker 7: use all the forms of energy that we've got and
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  Speaker 7: provide it in abundance. And that's also how we're going
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  Speaker 7: to be able to make sure that those new technologies
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  Speaker 7: and new industries, especially AI and data centers can come
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  Speaker 7: on board, because at the moment, Chris Bowen is constraining
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  Speaker 7: our energy use, constraining our energy sending industry offshore and
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  Speaker 7: making sure that we can't pursue things like AI and
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  Speaker 7: data centers. So we need a completely different approach and
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  Speaker 7: that's the policy agenda that we're going to pursue between
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  Speaker 7: now and the next election.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us down. I appreciate it. Dan team
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  Speaker 1: there with a.
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  Speaker 2: Gut punch over the Crows in the showdown. But a
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  Speaker 2: good point made about South Australia. It is the Canary
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  Speaker 2: without a coal mine when it comes to national energy.
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  Speaker 2: It's only less than ten percent of the Australian economy
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  Speaker 2: and population. South Australia it has the highest penetration of renewables,
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  Speaker 2: the most expensive electricity, and the most worries when it
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  Speaker 2: comes to energy security. So have a look at what's
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  Speaker 2: happening in South Australia. It's coming to Victoria, New South
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  Speaker 2: Wales and Queensland and the rest of the country if
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  Speaker 2: we keep going down this cris Bown path. Now I
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  Speaker 2: want to switch to National Security and ASIO Director General.
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  Speaker 2: Last week Mike Burgess delivered the annual threat assessment that
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  Speaker 2: you would have seen. He raised a number of really
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  Speaker 2: major concerns on multiple fronts about what's happening both here
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: and overseas.
• 19:49
  Speaker 10: And when on Australian is killed at the hands of
• 19:51
  Speaker 10: a foreign government on Australian soil, we will be shocked,
• 19:55
  Speaker 10: but we should not be surprised.
• 19:57
  Speaker 11: Confirming the Melbourne Synagogue attack had been directed by a
• 20:00
  Speaker 11: former Australian resident living in a rug and an Iran
• 20:04
  Speaker 11: backed Australian was behind an anti Semitic arson attack in Bondai.
• 20:09
  Speaker 10: We assessed these individuals we're seeking to covertly promote hatred.
• 20:13
  Speaker 10: I do worry that one day an Australian will be
• 20:15
  Speaker 10: killed at the hands of a foreign government here in Australia.
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: Let's go live to Indonesia and catch up with terrorism
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: expert Professor Greg Barton.
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: Greg, thanks for joining us again. You wouldn't have been.
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: Surprised by what the Director General said there.
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: This has been building for a long while and he's
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: been very public about his warnings.
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: Just how dire though, how worrisome would you characterize the
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: situation for Australia.
• 20:40
  Speaker 5: Well, Chris, Mike Burgess is saying to us that we've
• 20:43
  Speaker 5: got this existing terrorism threat scale where the next level
• 20:46
  Speaker 5: up is expected. We're currently at probable. That means a
• 20:49
  Speaker 5: fifty percent plus chance of somebody trying an attack in
• 20:52
  Speaker 5: the next twelve months. And what Mike Burgess is saying
• 20:55
  Speaker 5: is we need a different way of calibrating this because
• 20:57
  Speaker 5: we're actually at an elevator position. You know, we've got
• 21:01
  Speaker 5: to recognize that this is not just some sort of stable,
• 21:05
  Speaker 5: low level thread is actually rising because we don't have
• 21:08
  Speaker 5: any particular threats that they're pursuing at the moment in
• 21:12
  Speaker 5: particular plots, it's not pushed up to expect it, but
• 21:15
  Speaker 5: the moment it goes up to expect that, it means
• 21:17
  Speaker 5: that they're working on something. And so I think we're
• 21:20
  Speaker 5: going to see a rejigging of the Australian terror a
• 21:23
  Speaker 5: third system, because we are operating at a continuously elevated
• 21:28
  Speaker 5: level from threats from all sectors, from Islamic jihadi groups
• 21:34
  Speaker 5: like al Qaeda and Islamic State, from neo Nazi groups,
• 21:38
  Speaker 5: from Kent's being drawn to strange cocktail of ideas about violence,
• 21:44
  Speaker 5: ramped up with social media amplifying, and now we're very
• 21:48
  Speaker 5: likely going to see AI also amplifying and accelerating. So
• 21:52
  Speaker 5: I wish I could say things are going to get
• 21:53
  Speaker 5: steadily better, but I think what the Director General that
• 21:56
  Speaker 5: these I was saying is we've got to brace ourselves
• 21:58
  Speaker 5: to the fact is this is a long, hard slog
• 22:01
  Speaker 5: from a very resilient threat.
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: Now there are a range of different threats, as you say,
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: different types of threats and ASIO and other authorities have
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: to look at all of them. But the predominant threat,
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: according to ASIOH and all sorts of other agencies here
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: and around the world, is Islamist extremism. But it's a
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: shape shifting threat. In days gone past, you're in Indonesia,
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: it's the Sunni based terror organizations like Jamar Islamaira Islamir
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: and ol Kaeda who have been the main threats. Now
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: there's a lot of Shia groups and we look to
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: Hezbolla in the Middle East, of course, but Shia groups
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: around the world backed by Iran. How much more dangerous
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: is this threat? Knowing that not only do you have
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: these Islamist extremists terrorist groups.
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: But the fact that they're backed by a state power.
• 22:50
  Speaker 5: Well, that backing way of state power and the very
• 22:52
  Speaker 5: explicit wording that Mike Burgess used is very chilling. I mean,
• 22:56
  Speaker 5: we all we think of terrorism Chris as been a
• 22:58
  Speaker 5: non state actor. It's the exception the methods of prorism,
• 23:02
  Speaker 5: but very much as state actors. So these are people
• 23:04
  Speaker 5: working for the Islamic Revolutionary Guards calls. This is sort
• 23:07
  Speaker 5: of black ops operations, often through third parties, so we
• 23:12
  Speaker 5: don't necessarily see a direct line going through that can
• 23:14
  Speaker 5: go through organized crime, but it's because it's professionally organized
• 23:19
  Speaker 5: by people who sadly good at what they do, you know,
• 23:23
  Speaker 5: not the stooges on the ground perhaps, but the people
• 23:25
  Speaker 5: handling them. We've got to take it very, very seriously.
• 23:28
  Speaker 5: It's a little different from people responding to a call
• 23:31
  Speaker 5: from Islamic state. We're still very concerned about lone actor responses,
• 23:35
  Speaker 5: but then you've often got quite amateurish characters. But as
• 23:38
  Speaker 5: we saw with Bondo, can be extremely lethal. With the
• 23:43
  Speaker 5: IIGC from Tehran, you know, they've got the capacity to
• 23:48
  Speaker 5: do something very sophisticated. So far, they haven't done that.
• 23:51
  Speaker 5: They've kept it at the level of promoting hate, not
• 23:53
  Speaker 5: a good thing, and that synagogue fire and we could
• 23:56
  Speaker 5: easily have led to deaths. But what that means is
• 24:00
  Speaker 5: they can go much worse than what they have done.
• 24:02
  Speaker 5: And of course, if the situation turns to custard in
• 24:06
  Speaker 5: the strait up hor moves, if Iran fields it's got
• 24:09
  Speaker 5: no other good options, then they can reach out with
• 24:13
  Speaker 5: this lever of this method at a much more intense
• 24:16
  Speaker 5: level than we've seen so far. I think that's what's
• 24:17
  Speaker 5: behind Mike Burgess's warning.
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: Tell me about your thoughts well.
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: Of the public displays that we've seen in this country
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: over the past two and a half years, a lot
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: of it anti Israel, a lot of it branching into
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: anti Semitism, a lot of it openly Islamist extremists. We've
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: had banners of terror groups like Hesbalar and others paraded
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: in the streets, and there've been no public repercussions when
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: our law enforcement authorities don't arrest people for that sort
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: of blatant support of terrorist ideologies and groups.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: Does that help or hinder what we're trying to do here, Well, it.
• 24:53
  Speaker 5: Certainly doesn't help, does it.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: It hinders?
• 24:56
  Speaker 5: My reading of what's going on is you get lots
• 24:58
  Speaker 5: of protesting and a small element coming in and sort
• 25:02
  Speaker 5: of hijacking of pre writing on those large street marches.
• 25:06
  Speaker 5: But you'd really hope that that those free riders, you know,
• 25:09
  Speaker 5: with a banner of Idol Harmoni or reference to an
• 25:14
  Speaker 5: Islamic terrorist group. You wish those free riders could be
• 25:17
  Speaker 5: shut down straight away. I think, to be fair for
• 25:21
  Speaker 5: the police, they're in a really hard situation and they
• 25:24
  Speaker 5: often get caught by surprise, So we want them to
• 25:27
  Speaker 5: do better, but I think we've got to acknowledge that
• 25:31
  Speaker 5: it's you know, the reason these guys are jumping on
• 25:33
  Speaker 5: these rallies and putting their banners up, this is because
• 25:36
  Speaker 5: it's all too easy for them to do and it's
• 25:38
  Speaker 5: really quite hard for the police to respond in time
• 25:40
  Speaker 5: to shut that down.
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks for joining us, Gregor. I appreciate greg Button.
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: They're live from Indonesia. We all get to a break
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: on the other side. We're going to head Inland. We're
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: going to head into the Red Center.
• 25:50
  Speaker 8: Hatch up with an Iranian immigrant.
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: Who's helping tourists check out the unique Australian outback at
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: this very unique time. As you probably know, the arid
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: center of Australia is green, it's wet, and it's lush
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: at the moment, and it's attracting people from all over.
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: One is an Iranian born pilot living the dream as
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: far away from the troubled streets of her homeland as
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: just about anyone could imagine. Sarah Hayderi Tabreeze grew up
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: in Tehran and was studying to become a doctor when
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: she made the decision to pack her bags and moved
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: to the outback to chase her dreams in the sky.
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: Sarah is now flying tourists above the flooded saltpan of
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: Lake Ere in the far north of South Australia, and
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: she joins me now live from William Creek. Thanks for
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: joining us, Sarah, I was fascinated by reading about your
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: story and the weekend Australian First up. Tell us about
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: what you're seeing as you fly out across what is
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: usually the Red Center.
• 26:51
  Speaker 12: Thank you for having me today. Flying in the at
• 26:54
  Speaker 12: back is really specialist and this year we have so
• 26:58
  Speaker 12: much water in the lake and make it very special
• 27:02
  Speaker 12: because usually we don't have much water. And the best
• 27:07
  Speaker 12: part of my job is seeing the passengers reaction and
• 27:12
  Speaker 12: they get so excited when they see the lake air
• 27:15
  Speaker 12: for the first time.
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: I bet they do.
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: You're going to be a doctor, so it's an interesting
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: transition to be a pilot. I assume that the precision
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: and attention to detail would be applied to both professions.
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: But tell us about the people who are getting up there.
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: You're flying out of William Creek and then you fly
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: out even further afield to the lake. Tell us where
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: the people are coming from who take the trip with you.
• 27:42
  Speaker 12: We get our passengers coming from everywhere around Australia and
• 27:47
  Speaker 12: they are also passion and passionate about seeing the beautiful
• 27:50
  Speaker 12: landscape out back and seeing the lake air for the
• 27:55
  Speaker 12: first time. And lake air has been its fullest since
• 27:59
  Speaker 12: nineteen eighteen, which is such a special thing to see
• 28:04
  Speaker 12: this year.
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, have you seen it beforehand? Did you see it
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: when it was all dry? Or have you only only
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: ever seen it in flood?
• 28:13
  Speaker 12: No? Unfortunately I didn't get to see it when it
• 28:16
  Speaker 12: was a saltpan, but lucky enough to see it a bit
• 28:19
  Speaker 12: full of water.
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: Now I've been lucky enough to be to you to
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: visit your hometown many years ago. And Teyran couldn't be
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: more different geographically than the arid north of South Australia
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: where it's so flat. Right, Teyran is a big city
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: surrounded by mountains, So how do you go? It must
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: be easier to fly over flat country than mountainous country.
• 28:45
  Speaker 12: Definitely makes us so much easier.
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: Now, tell us about your home country. Obviously, you're an
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: immigrant to Australia and Aussie now you came out here
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: with your family.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: Are you worried about what's going on back in Irana.
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: Do you worry.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: That the people there are suffering more from the war
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: or from their regime that's in place.
• 29:09
  Speaker 12: Definitely, people are suffering more because of the regime. And
• 29:13
  Speaker 12: I really hope that people of Iran get free from
• 29:18
  Speaker 12: the regime soon. And that's and I want to be
• 29:22
  Speaker 12: a peace for everyone around the world.
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, everybody wants peace and no one wants war. But
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: there's been a lot of focus on fuel prices around
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: the world, which is understandable. But what's been forgotten, I
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: think in recent months is the plight of the Iranian people.
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: Do you have any sense through friends and relatives how
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: they're coping.
• 29:45
  Speaker 12: Definitely, it's not an easy situation and people it was
• 29:52
  Speaker 12: a black ad for more than ninety days, so it
• 29:56
  Speaker 12: made it very impossible to contact the people you love.
• 30:03
  Speaker 12: People are very tired at the moment, and they really
• 30:07
  Speaker 12: hope all they have been doing all this time to
• 30:13
  Speaker 12: pay off and getting changed off the regime. That's what
• 30:17
  Speaker 12: the people want, so I hope they can be freedom.
• 30:20
  Speaker 12: They can be free one day soon.
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I share that hope with you.
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: Sarah, Thanks so much for joining us and thanks for
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: helping so many visitors enjoy the pleasure of the Australian outback.
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: Thank you, there you go, Sarah.
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: A pilot there from William Creek, which I should have
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: asked her about. Such a tiny little town in the
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: middle of nowhere. But how about that flying people out
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: over lake here they come from near and far. What
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: a spectacular side. I really wish I could get up
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: there myself.
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: Now we've got to take a break.
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: On the other side of that, we'll get into the
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: Labour's budget woes and how businesses are fearing under these
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: broken promises, the tax hikes that Labor is delivering. The
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: Shadow Small Business Minister will join us. You know who
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: that is, Nampa jimper Price. Let's say back down to
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: camera and catch up with the shadow small Business Minister.
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: Just into navajimper Price. Good to talk to you again,
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: Just into Jim Chalmers.
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: Seems to think that small businesses and larger businesses are
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: going to be pretty happy with his budget in the end.
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: Now he's got it through most of it through Parliament.
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: What's your reading from the business world.
• 31:24
  Speaker 13: Oh, far from it, Chris, far from it, you know.
• 31:27
  Speaker 13: Having these conversations with small businesses, they're beside themselves around
• 31:32
  Speaker 13: the country. I mean, this government has rushed through this legislation,
• 31:37
  Speaker 13: having done a dirty deal with the Greens to do so.
• 31:40
  Speaker 13: But they've put the cart, you know, before the horse,
• 31:44
  Speaker 13: because now that they're going they're suggesting that they're going
• 31:47
  Speaker 13: to go back and provide amendments to this legislation. But
• 31:52
  Speaker 13: the problem is that the damage is already done. I mean,
• 31:54
  Speaker 13: when the question was put to Jim Chalmers over the weekend,
• 31:57
  Speaker 13: who was going to be worse off? Businesses are going
• 32:00
  Speaker 13: to be worse off? And he can't give a direct answer.
• 32:03
  Speaker 13: I put the same question to the minister representing him,
• 32:06
  Speaker 13: Senator Wong in the Senate Chamber this afternoon at question time,
• 32:11
  Speaker 13: what businesses are going to be worse off? What businesses
• 32:14
  Speaker 13: are going to pay higher tax? They can't answer these questions.
• 32:17
  Speaker 13: They don't even understand the dire consequences of these tax
• 32:23
  Speaker 13: They're calling them reforms, but we know that they're increased taxes.
• 32:26
  Speaker 13: They're not reforms. And these are the biggest changes to
• 32:31
  Speaker 13: tax that have been legislated within a generation. And businesses
• 32:37
  Speaker 13: now those industry is telling us that basically the carve
• 32:42
  Speaker 13: outs are too narrow, they're too complex, and What is
• 32:45
  Speaker 13: happening is it's discouraging investment, and it's discouraging growth. And
• 32:50
  Speaker 13: you know, businesses, small businesses are suffering, And why would
• 32:55
  Speaker 13: they want to invest in themselves in apprentices when they're
• 32:59
  Speaker 13: so much uncertainty? And why would you trust this government
• 33:03
  Speaker 13: and this treasurer when they can't even answer a simple
• 33:07
  Speaker 13: question like who's going to pay more tax and who
• 33:11
  Speaker 13: is going to be affected by this?
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: You picked up one of my pet hates in this debate.
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: Too many in the media regurgitate it, labor call these reforms.
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: They're not reforms. Not all changes reform.
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: These are tax increases, and increasing tax on the economy
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: is not a reform.
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: It's regressive. It always is.
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: If you want small business to thrive, you want to
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: lower the tax burden. Now, the other change here is
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: that this so called widow's tax has been exposed. Jim
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: Chambers has been forced to admit that yes, people who
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: lose a partner and therefore have sole rights over a
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: property or whatever will loser tax, will pay more tax effectively.
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: But he says, no worry, We're going to fix it
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: now with new legislation.
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: This goes to your point of rushing it through.
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: Shouldn't you get rid of all these unintended consertsquences before
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: you pass the laws.
• 34:03
  Speaker 13: Precisely, I mean, before you introduce any legislation, you're supposed
• 34:07
  Speaker 13: to understand what the impacts will be. And clearly they
• 34:12
  Speaker 13: have not done the work that's supposed to have happened
• 34:14
  Speaker 13: before you introduced any form of legislation to understand who
• 34:17
  Speaker 13: is going to be negatively impacted with this. And as
• 34:21
  Speaker 13: we've seen, I mean again, this government understood before they
• 34:26
  Speaker 13: passed it last week. They understood the consequences of creating
• 34:29
  Speaker 13: this widow's tax, which affects people during bereavement, but also
• 34:34
  Speaker 13: in the situation of divorce as well. So you know,
• 34:38
  Speaker 13: the change of ownership in terms of a property there
• 34:42
  Speaker 13: won't be grandfathered. In terms of those homes that are
• 34:45
  Speaker 13: going to be grandfathered as investment properties, they will have
• 34:49
  Speaker 13: to Why should those going through bereavement, those that are
• 34:53
  Speaker 13: going through a difficult situation in their family lives, which
• 34:56
  Speaker 13: is divorced, why should they then be impacted by more
• 34:59
  Speaker 13: tax on their lives? And you know what, this government
• 35:03
  Speaker 13: doesn't give a damn. They don't care about these people.
• 35:06
  Speaker 13: Otherwise they would have considered this before passing it, because
• 35:09
  Speaker 13: they had knowledge of it before they pass it. Instead
• 35:12
  Speaker 13: of again putting the cart before the horse and now
• 35:15
  Speaker 13: saying that they're going to change those amendments, well, we've
• 35:17
  Speaker 13: got amendments for them and they need to support our
• 35:20
  Speaker 13: amendments this week because if they don't support those amendments
• 35:23
  Speaker 13: then they simply once more do not care for the
• 35:26
  Speaker 13: Australian people.
• 35:27
  Speaker 8: But this is blatant again.
• 35:30
  Speaker 13: They will tax everybody and anything because they keep spending money.
• 35:35
  Speaker 13: We're hurtling toward one trillion debt, which we'll see before
• 35:38
  Speaker 13: the end of the year, and so they finding any
• 35:41
  Speaker 13: way that they can possibly put their hand in the
• 35:44
  Speaker 13: pockets of Australians, even during the toughest times in their lives,
• 35:48
  Speaker 13: to get more money to spend your money, Australian's money
• 35:51
  Speaker 13: spot on.
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: Just let me end on some good news. Your colleague Dan.
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: Ten punched me earlier as pointing out that the Crows
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: lost the showdown. I seem to recall that your Collingwood
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: Magpies played his Richmond Tiger's.
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: On the weekend. How did you go? I think you
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: took care of him.
• 36:10
  Speaker 8: Well, of course, of course, that's.
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: Ther first time I've ever been pleased to hear about
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: a Collingwood win.
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us.
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: Just into Naber Jim Bryce there the Shadow Small Business
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: Minister and although she hails from Ala Springs, she's a
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: Pies fan.
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: I hope that hasn't cost her any votes now.
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: Property clearance rates have continued to plummet around the country,
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: more from the fallout from Labour's budget, of course, have
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: a look at this.
• 36:39
  Speaker 7: Sydney and Melbourne have had their worst property auction results
• 36:42
  Speaker 7: in at least five years.
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: The housing market just continuing to soten.
• 36:45
  Speaker 9: Less than half of homes around the country that went
• 36:48
  Speaker 9: up for auction over the week and actually sold. The
• 36:50
  Speaker 9: clearance rade in Sydney just forty seven percent preliminary terms,
• 36:54
  Speaker 9: Melbourne fifty percent. Important to say that'll actually be revised
• 36:58
  Speaker 9: lower as more failed a reported over the coming days
• 37:01
  Speaker 9: as well, so it'll be down around forty based on
• 37:05
  Speaker 9: last week's results as well.
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: Let's check in again with property expert Louis Christopher, Managing director.
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: Is SQM Research good to talk to you again, Louis
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: tell us about this. Those figures are bad enough, but
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: in Queensland it's down to about a quarter.
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: Of auctions succeeded only.
• 37:23
  Speaker 14: That's that's true, Chris. But let's keep in mind with
• 37:26
  Speaker 14: queens and it's not exactly an auction state.
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: So we've we've.
• 37:29
  Speaker 14: Rtically recorded fairly low clearance rates in Brisbane, in Southeast Queensland,
• 37:35
  Speaker 14: and there's a lot of after sales. That all said, though,
• 37:38
  Speaker 14: definitely Brisbane and Southeast Queensland are now in a downturn.
• 37:42
  Speaker 14: We are recording falls and vendor asking prices falls and
• 37:46
  Speaker 14: actual prices. So the very low clearance rates in Brisbane, yes,
• 37:51
  Speaker 14: that is reflective of a downturn, albeit Brisbane's always had
• 37:55
  Speaker 14: low clearance rates.
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: Now would this be the intended consequences of Labour's chain
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: The investors are staying out of existing real estate and
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: therefore prices are going down.
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  Speaker 14: The reality is is this downturn has been driven by
• 38:09
  Speaker 14: a number of factors, and the property taxation changes it's
• 38:13
  Speaker 14: definitely a key factor. Clearance rates were weak from about
• 38:17
  Speaker 14: mid February, but they lurched down on the news of
• 38:22
  Speaker 14: the property taxation changes, so there's definitely been a downshift
• 38:26
  Speaker 14: in the housing market since this news came out.
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: The Labor have said that of course prices won't go down,
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: so they just won't increase as quickly. Well, they're already
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: going down. Their prospects are not good. The big question
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: is is this going to help first home buyers get
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: in or are they going to be squeezed out still
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: with interest rates?
• 38:46
  Speaker 14: Yeah, good question. Look, definitely we'll see in improving affordability
• 38:51
  Speaker 14: by the virtue of falling housing prices. The issue though,
• 38:56
  Speaker 14: for first home buyers is, as you rightly point out,
• 38:59
  Speaker 14: interest rates are higher and we still could get another
• 39:02
  Speaker 14: rate height next month. The other issue as well as
• 39:06
  Speaker 14: those people who bought in on the government's five percent
• 39:10
  Speaker 14: deposit scheme, which was expanded back in October last year. Now,
• 39:14
  Speaker 14: since October, there's been about one hundred and twenty thousand
• 39:17
  Speaker 14: first home buyers who've bought in the market since, and
• 39:20
  Speaker 14: our concern is that they bought in at the top
• 39:23
  Speaker 14: of the market, so many of those people right now
• 39:26
  Speaker 14: would be facing negative equity stilling, not a great way
• 39:29
  Speaker 14: to start out if you're a first home.
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: Buy That is a frightening situation to be in for
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: those people, and that's where government interventions can do more
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: harm than good in the housing market.
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: As long as they can.
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: Pay make their repayments over extended period, they'll come good,
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: but just for the while while they're in negative equity.
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: That's a scary, scary situation. Thanks for joining us, Lee, Louis,
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: I appreciate Louis Christopher there from SQM research. We'll keep
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: on that, but to get to a break. After the break,
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: want to catch up with gematon Eni and Carolyn de Asso.
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: We'll talk about the Liberal's latest polling struggles and this
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: idea of rebranding. Let's sort everything out now with Gemmatanjini
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: on the desk.
• 40:09
  Speaker 15: Here wast ready pations, you.
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: Got a little sorted and across in Perth.
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: Sky News contributor Caroline Drusso, good to talk to you both.
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: Let's start with our good friends at the Liberal Party
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: and the idea of rebranding. Now, as you know, we
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: are here at Sky News, but we're not rebranding to
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: the Lake. We're rebranded News twenty four. It's happening later
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: in July, and that was announced today. So when she
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: was on Sky News seemed to be News twenty four
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: this morning. Here is what Melissa Macintosh had to say.
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: I've taken a bit of inspiration from Sky News this morning.
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: With your rebrand to News twenty four. I think it's time.
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: I'm putting myself out on a limb a little bit.
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: I think it's time for the Liberal Party to rebrand itself.
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: Now, Jimmy, you know a bit about comms and branding.
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: Is that the right approach?
• 40:55
  Speaker 15: The fun fact is I was watching that as it
• 40:57
  Speaker 15: went to air this morning and I literally had to
• 41:00
  Speaker 15: bite my tongue because my mother has a swear jar.
• 41:03
  Speaker 15: And look, I'm more than happy to give my own
• 41:05
  Speaker 15: side a whack when they need it. And I've never
• 41:07
  Speaker 15: met Melissa Macintosh, but I will tell her this the
• 41:10
  Speaker 15: idiocy of being goaded into that conversation when the correct
• 41:13
  Speaker 15: response for anyone who doesn't want to be in opposition
• 41:16
  Speaker 15: forever is to say the only polls that matter are
• 41:19
  Speaker 15: on polling day. And while you want to talk about
• 41:22
  Speaker 15: Liberal Party wise, I want to talk about how appalling
• 41:25
  Speaker 15: this government is, how this government lies with impunity, and
• 41:27
  Speaker 15: how it's thinking to bring back an indigenous voice to Parliament.
• 41:30
  Speaker 15: And by the way, mister Chalmers still can't rule out
• 41:34
  Speaker 15: of Widow's tax. That is thely response that anyone on
• 41:39
  Speaker 15: the front edge of the Liberal Party. And listen, I
• 41:41
  Speaker 15: don't give advice for free, but take it for free
• 41:44
  Speaker 15: for the love of God himself.
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: I just had a viewer actually emailed me saying in
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: my opening to the program, I said the Libs shouldn't
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: talk about themselves. And then when Dan Kitten came on,
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: I asked him about the Libs and the polls and
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: he went on to attack labor.
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: That's the play. It's my jobs. But he did the
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: right thing and went on to it. And of course
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: it was a gift for Anthony Alberezi. Here's what he
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: some funny had with it in Parliament.
• 42:08
  Speaker 4: I just was inspired by sky News.
• 42:13
  Speaker 14: That's the problemsurer.
• 42:19
  Speaker 5: Services.
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I wish he was inspired by sky News Caroline,
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: but soon to be in News twenty four. Why he
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: really worried me about Melissa Macintosh too, is she didn't
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: just talk about rebrand and she talked about you know,
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: read of finding our values and.
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: All the rest of it.
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: But the core values of the coalition parties are still
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: very strong. That's a matter of applying them to solutions
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: and a bad government, isn't it.
• 42:45
  Speaker 16: Absolutely it is. The values are just fine. They work.
• 42:49
  Speaker 16: They are absolutely timeless, like a really good pair of stiletto's.
• 42:55
  Speaker 13: You could wear.
• 42:55
  Speaker 16: Them throughout the decades and they still fit perfectly.
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: But you're absolutely right.
• 43:00
  Speaker 16: It's a matter of Okay, what are the issues of
• 43:02
  Speaker 16: the day and what is the liberal solution? And we
• 43:05
  Speaker 16: keep hearing this conversation in politics, and I've probably said
• 43:08
  Speaker 16: this before, so forgive me, but you know, we keep
• 43:11
  Speaker 16: talking about or do we go to the left or
• 43:13
  Speaker 16: do we.
• 43:13
  Speaker 8: Go to the right.
• 43:14
  Speaker 16: And this is another one of those inane, banal kind
• 43:16
  Speaker 16: of conversations that people have everyday. People in the world
• 43:20
  Speaker 16: do not look at their problems as requiring left or
• 43:22
  Speaker 16: right solutions. They require their problems as requiring efficient and
• 43:28
  Speaker 16: effective solutions. So use the liberal values to create the
• 43:33
  Speaker 16: effective solution, and let's get on with it and do
• 43:36
  Speaker 16: the work, and you create the policy and sell the message.
• 43:39
  Speaker 8: There is no shortcut.
• 43:41
  Speaker 16: There is no way of getting out of this without
• 43:43
  Speaker 16: doing the hard work. And you can put as much
• 43:45
  Speaker 16: lipstick on the proverbial as you like, but the work
• 43:48
  Speaker 16: still needs to be done.
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: And just on that, Caroline, what about labor through the
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: unions saying they'll have another crack at the voice.
• 43:58
  Speaker 16: Oh, just shoot your other foot off. This here is
• 44:01
  Speaker 16: totally ludicrous. It got taken to a referendum. The country spoke,
• 44:06
  Speaker 16: and this is not something that happened twenty five years ago.
• 44:11
  Speaker 16: Maybe attitudes have changed or whatever. This year was very
• 44:14
  Speaker 16: very recent. There are some very serious issues in this economy, unfortunately,
• 44:19
  Speaker 16: many of them created by the union movement. And how
• 44:22
  Speaker 16: about we focus on fixing those issues which are four
• 44:26
  Speaker 16: in the mind of the Australian people, and not going
• 44:29
  Speaker 16: for another round around the mountain on something that just
• 44:33
  Speaker 16: really we've dealt with this. We don't need to revisit it.
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: It's done, it's gone.
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: As you said, Jenma, this is a thing that's a
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: half volley outside off stuff.
• 44:41
  Speaker 15: I would really be happy if the Prime Minister wanted
• 44:43
  Speaker 15: to take us to another referendum. I think that would
• 44:45
  Speaker 15: be strategically brilliant. May go for it. But the serious
• 44:49
  Speaker 15: side to this story is of course that since the
• 44:51
  Speaker 15: failed Voice referendum, Indigenous disadvantage continues. It continues, and we
• 44:57
  Speaker 15: see it in our springs, we see so what's doing it?
• 45:00
  Speaker 15: Not doing anything about it because fundamentally I don't believe
• 45:03
  Speaker 15: they care because there are no votes in it, and
• 45:06
  Speaker 15: every time it's politically expedient out they whip it's that
• 45:11
  Speaker 15: this government has had no desire correct me if I'm
• 45:13
  Speaker 15: wrong to do to have a Senate inquiry into how
• 45:15
  Speaker 15: the billions are spent. If something's not working, is not
• 45:19
  Speaker 15: the first thing you do to stop? Pause, why is
• 45:22
  Speaker 15: it not working? Like it's actually insulting the state of
• 45:26
  Speaker 15: things and that this is actually being entertained, and that
• 45:30
  Speaker 15: the Union movement is showing once again it's self invested,
• 45:34
  Speaker 15: true colors, it doesn't care about indigenous disadvantage.
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: Just quickly, because I don't want to lose focus on
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: the raw commission into Bondi and anti Semitism, because it's
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: ongoing and there's a lot more to come. And I
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: showed you at the top of the program those pictures
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: of Arson of Strotsky. These are distressing pictures of how
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: he ended up during that attack. And Caroline is just
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: shocking to know and hear about how how when this
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: attack happened, straightaway, social media creates lies and AI generated
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: issues to pretend it's all some sort of jurish conspiracy.
• 46:10
  Speaker 16: Again, it's disgusting, it's absolutely woeful. And unfortunately, while we
• 46:17
  Speaker 16: this is an example of it right in our backyard
• 46:20
  Speaker 16: here at home, this is not the first time that
• 46:22
  Speaker 16: we have seen this happen, you know, in various incidences
• 46:26
  Speaker 16: or attacks across the world in the last couple of years.
• 46:29
  Speaker 16: It's disgusting. And the simple fact of the matter is yes,
• 46:33
  Speaker 16: in a sense, the mainstream media has got a lot
• 46:38
  Speaker 16: to answer for in perhaps not being as balanced as
• 46:41
  Speaker 16: they should have been whatever. And I understand, I understand
• 46:45
  Speaker 16: why people are on social media. I understand the draw
• 46:49
  Speaker 16: of the new media, but unfortunately it picks up and
• 46:53
  Speaker 16: accelerates the worst of the bad habits that we have
• 46:57
  Speaker 16: seen in the mainstream media, just without any of the
• 47:00
  Speaker 16: regulation or any of the rules exactly, there is nothing
• 47:03
  Speaker 16: there to keep it in check at all. And I
• 47:06
  Speaker 16: understand for some people that's part of the appeal, but
• 47:08
  Speaker 16: with it comes responsibility, and those sorts of things are
• 47:12
  Speaker 16: absolutely despicable.
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, hateful, and they lead to horrible consequences. Just quickly
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: on this gemma you like. I have read the submission
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: by Stephen Lowe, a famous businessman and philanthropist. There's a
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: lot in his submission, but one factoid. A school in Sydney,
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: a Jewish school, has to spend four million dollars a
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: year just keeping its students safe. Money that could be
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: spent on education at welfare.
• 47:40
  Speaker 15: I don't know how the Australian public would respond if
• 47:43
  Speaker 15: that applied to any other cohort, whether or that was
• 47:45
  Speaker 15: a Catholic school, an Anglican school and Muslim school. It
• 47:48
  Speaker 15: is unacceptable, period, full stop. And the fact that it
• 47:52
  Speaker 15: just goes under the radar and they have to get
• 47:54
  Speaker 15: on with it and go that just exposes the hypocrisy
• 47:57
  Speaker 15: of this nation where we've ended up to. It breaks
• 48:00
  Speaker 15: my heart.
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: Spot on spot on now.
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: Most viewers, and certainly both of you know that I'm
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: no avid monarchist, Chris. I like to point some nice
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: things the royals do now now and then, and I
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: think this Princess Catherine, what is she? The Princess of
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: Wayne is the queen and she.
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: Will be the queen one day. Pretty good what she's done.
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: She's had a hell of a time battling cancer, undisclosed
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: what it's all about. But then she just quietly goes
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: off and climbs three peaks for charity.
• 48:28
  Speaker 15: I love Princess Kate, and can I just say to
• 48:30
  Speaker 15: you and your your Republican cohort that you even't got
• 48:34
  Speaker 15: a chance so long as she and William are in
• 48:36
  Speaker 15: the chair, and then they've got that adorable junior. They're offspring,
• 48:39
  Speaker 15: are all collectively pretty good.
• 48:40
  Speaker 8: You're done.
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: She's a pretty good egg, it seems, Caroline. Her husband's
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: not bad either. Yeah, and there's a pretty special effort.
• 48:48
  Speaker 16: So very special effort. And great to see Chris, great
• 48:52
  Speaker 16: to see her doing something productive.
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: Indeed, and great to see me drawing attention to.
• 49:00
  Speaker 6: You.
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: To see you next week. That's all the time we
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: go for you. Jamie's up next with Kredlin h
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  Speaker 14: M hm