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The Vikings FIRE Kwesi Adofo-Mensah, Raiders HIRE Klint Kubiak, Cardinals FINALLY hire a HC · 3 and Out with John Middlekauff

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Speaker 1: but then Quesci, the Vikings fired their GM, the Raiders
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Speaker 1: hired a coach, the Niners hired Raheem Morris, Cardinals hired
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Speaker 1: that out and uh enjoy it. But let's just dive
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Speaker 1: right into the Minnesota Viking situation. Anytime you fire the
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Speaker 1: GM going into the super Bowl when you didn't make
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Speaker 1: the playoffs, it's a little weird, Like it does feel
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Speaker 1: a little dysfunctional, it does feel a little bizarre. I
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Speaker 1: will not deny that. The timing. Typically when you're gonna
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Speaker 1: fire someone, give or take the week of Black Monday,
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Speaker 1: it doesn't have to be on Monday. Sometimes it happens
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Speaker 1: like John Harbaugh on Tuesday. But typically if you miss
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Speaker 1: the playoffs, you get a decision that week. Sometimes it's
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Speaker 1: pur of the moment, right, things change, there was a
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Speaker 1: power struggle, someone loses. It might happen by the end
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Speaker 1: of the week. Like Mike McDaniel, Remember, is like he's safe,
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Speaker 1: then all of a sudden in the middle of that week,
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Speaker 1: he's not safe. So shit happens. You never know. But
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Speaker 1: when QUESI was at the Senior Bowl, I talked to
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Speaker 1: multiple scouts who were there that literally talked to him,
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Speaker 1: So it's safe to say that he did not see
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Speaker 1: this coming, though there have been enough reports that like
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Speaker 1: it had been rumored about really for a year. Remember
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Speaker 1: last year is like are they going to extend him?
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Speaker 1: But they did. So this is a guy who I
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Speaker 1: say it all the time, the American dream is not
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Speaker 1: a couple of kids in a white picket fence. It's
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Speaker 1: being paid millions of dollars with the kid in the
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Speaker 1: white pickt fence. Not to work. Doesn't get any better,
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Speaker 1: It's it's as good as it gets, right. This is
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Speaker 1: this guy signed a second contract as a GM I
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Speaker 1: would guess over five million dollars because that's the going
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Speaker 1: rate and living Well doesn't have any responsibilities. But my
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Speaker 1: number one takeaway, and there's no arguing this, let's use
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Speaker 1: the Hardbass situation and the Sean McDermott situation. Clearly, Brandon
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Speaker 1: Bean did not fire Sean McDermott. Hell, he didn't even
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Speaker 1: see it coming. I think that's fair to say, regardless
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Speaker 1: of all the criticism of him getting l obited after
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Speaker 1: the fact, he was not pounding the table to get
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Speaker 1: Sean mcjarmoth fired. Eric DaCosta, John Harbaugh's best friend, who
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Speaker 1: was in tears when he found out the news and
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Speaker 1: he told the staff that John Harball was fired, did
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Speaker 1: not fire John Harball. Those were owner led decisions. This one,
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Speaker 1: to me feels pretty clear. Now Ultimately the decision making
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Speaker 1: power is with the guys that signed the checks, the
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Speaker 1: Wilf's family, right, I think the dad and the son.
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Speaker 1: But Kevin O'Connell wanted him gone. Because if Kevin O'Connell
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Speaker 1: liked him, enjoyed working with him, and wanted him around,
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Speaker 1: guess what Questy would still be around. And then there
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Speaker 1: have been reports that Brian Flores, who's now making six
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Speaker 1: million dollars a year to be the defensive coordinator. Say
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Speaker 1: it all the time, like most people, aspirational people aspire
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Speaker 1: to be the top dog. If you're gonna be the
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Speaker 1: number two NFL coaching is a pretty good gig to
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Speaker 1: be the number two. Fangio who knows after his fake
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Speaker 1: retirement might get ten million dollars a year. Flora's just
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Speaker 1: got sick? Who knows how much Rahem Morris has got
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Speaker 1: It bays a premium to be a coordinator that people
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Speaker 1: want in the NFL. Didn't wasn't a fan, didn't like them,
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Speaker 1: so the coaching staff. Like we talked about power struggles,
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Speaker 1: there was a clear power struggle here and the coach
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Speaker 1: is one. Now. I think another thing is clear on
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Speaker 1: merit alone. His drafts were really, really bad, his last
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Speaker 1: three or last four drafts. I'm gonna give you some
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Speaker 1: stats that I was reading about that are, like, God,
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Speaker 1: it's pretty terrible. Because I don't follow the vikings like
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Speaker 1: break down every pick, follow them from a macro perspective. Obviously,
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Speaker 1: the talk of the quarterback and the Darnold and the
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Speaker 1: JJ A lot of different variables there. Everyone had their hand,
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Speaker 1: you know, or was involved in that situation. I don't
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Speaker 1: think you can absolve one person and put all the
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Speaker 1: blame on the GM, not on Kevin O'Connell. Everyone played
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Speaker 1: a role. But when you are at the GM, you're
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Speaker 1: really paid to do two things. Get along, can work
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Speaker 1: closely with the coaching staff. I mean, the head coach
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Speaker 1: is mostly always going to be making more money than you.
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Speaker 1: And in the case of Kevin O'Connell, let's just pick
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Speaker 1: some numbers. Let's say KWASI is making five million dollars.
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Speaker 1: Fair to guess that Kevin's making thirteen to fifteen. So
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Speaker 1: three x when you work with someone, even if in
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Speaker 1: theory you're on equal footing, when one guy makes three
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Speaker 1: x what you make, that guy's got more power. Welcome
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Speaker 1: to the world. So you got to work with closely
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Speaker 1: the coaching staff and get along with them. Which listen,
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Speaker 1: it's pretty clear they weren't on board with them, and
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Speaker 1: you're paid to acquire players. It's why guys like Howie Roseman,
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Speaker 1: John Schneider or if you just like Hall of Fame
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Speaker 1: gms because their ability to make acquisitions. Now, this is
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Speaker 1: you're dealing with human capital, right. Quessey's got a Wall
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Speaker 1: Street background. When you're in Wall Street and you're making acquisitions.
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Speaker 1: When I lived in San Francisco, I live with a guy,
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Speaker 1: a buddy named Bobby. Bobby played baseball at Brown Ivy League.
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Speaker 1: Guy worked in VC banking finance his whole career. Big
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Speaker 1: mover and shaker. I mean, it was probably a millionaire
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Speaker 1: by the time he was in his early thirties. And
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Speaker 1: I remember living with him and him just talking about
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Speaker 1: some of the deals they were doing. That is you
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Speaker 1: just kind of become numb to people. You're just buying assets,
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Speaker 1: whether it's hotels, whether it's companies, and the people inside
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Speaker 1: those companies tend to be widgets to these companies. And
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Speaker 1: when you work on Wall Street, you're kind of numb
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Speaker 1: to human capital cause it's really about the product, whether
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Speaker 1: it's hotel business. I'm just picking a couple random ones, right,
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Speaker 1: let's pick Costco or let's pick whatever. You're just acquiring
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Speaker 1: the company or the asset. We're in football, your assets
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Speaker 1: are people. And he clearly struggled at acquiring people because
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Speaker 1: let's just pick his first three years as GM right
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Speaker 1: twenty two, twenty three, and twenty four. He drafted twenty
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Speaker 1: two players. Those twenty two players have made one hundred
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Speaker 1: and fifty three starts. That is the second lowest in
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Speaker 1: the NFL over that period of time. And if you
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Speaker 1: factor in the twenty five draft and just compare it
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Speaker 1: to his division, they those guys like so twenty two,
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Speaker 1: twenty three, twenty four, and twenty five relative to the Bears,
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Speaker 1: the Lions, and the Packers, twelve percent of those guys
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Speaker 1: or I mean, of the drafted players have made twelve
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Speaker 1: percent of the starts. Meanwhile, with the other three teams,
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Speaker 1: which I think it's fair to say are all well run,
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Speaker 1: I mean, the Packers are like the cream of the
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Speaker 1: crop in terms of the decade long run of consistency.
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Speaker 1: The Bears have really kind of turned it around with
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Speaker 1: some good drafts, high picks, and the Lions are just
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Speaker 1: a high functioning organization. Now, those teams average between thirty
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Speaker 1: to thirty four percent of the starts of their drafted players,
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Speaker 1: so almost three xing QUESTI in the Minnesota Vikings. So
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Speaker 1: we'll get into the other story that went pretty viral today.
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Speaker 1: He got fired because the coaches wanted him out, and
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Speaker 1: it was pretty easy to justify it when you looked
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Speaker 1: at his track record. Now, the Sam donald thing did
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Speaker 1: not help, and it has not become public who wanted what. Clearly,
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Speaker 1: I don't think Kevin O'Connell threw his body in front
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Speaker 1: of Sam Donald. I said this before Sam Donald didn't.
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Speaker 1: I mean, was atrocious in the Lions game. Any human
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Speaker 1: beings that sat on their couch and watched that it
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Speaker 1: was really bad. I felt like I was one of
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Speaker 1: the only human beings alive that was critical of Kevin
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Speaker 1: O'Connell in they played the game in Arizona because of
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Speaker 1: the fires against the Rams. He did a terrible job
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Speaker 1: that night. So when people say Sam Donald fell apart
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Speaker 1: in his last two games, Kevin O'Connell kind of gets
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Speaker 1: absolved from any responsibility. He was not good in that spot.
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Speaker 1: He did not do a good job of running the ball,
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Speaker 1: slowing down the game. He just treated Sam Donald like
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Speaker 1: he was Patrick Mahomes or something. And obviously they just
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Speaker 1: got curb stumped. But to me, he got fired on
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Speaker 1: on his capability to acquire players and it was atrocious. Now,
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Speaker 1: if you want to go what's up with Minnesota why
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Speaker 1: they takes so long to make this decision, We'll just
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Speaker 1: have to wait for more stories to come out to
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Speaker 1: truly get the dirt now a couple things. Just because
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Speaker 1: you higher outside of the box doesn't mean it's the
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Speaker 1: right move. They got a lot of credit Minnesota did
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Speaker 1: for hiring this guy who had never played football, who
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Speaker 1: honestly didn't work in football up until like ten plus
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Speaker 1: years ago, came from Wall Street, so made the transition,
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Speaker 1: took a huge pay cut, got his foot in the door,
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Speaker 1: i think with the forty nine ers, and started doing projects.
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Speaker 1: Because the forty nine ers they got a genius money
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Speaker 1: guy in Parrague who might might as well be a
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Speaker 1: Wall Street guy and has ran their cap and ran
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Speaker 1: their money forever, now runs the York businesses soccer teams
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Speaker 1: across the world. Like the guy's a fucking badass when
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Speaker 1: it comes to money. I've always been forward thinking that way,
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Speaker 1: and stuff like this. And then Questy kind of worked
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Speaker 1: his way up, got with the Browns and was hired
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Speaker 1: to be the GM and they got a lot like
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Speaker 1: look at them hiring the non traditional old guard, not
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Speaker 1: those scouts with chewing tobacco, black you know, tinted windows
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Speaker 1: so they can just watch tape sun up to sundown
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Speaker 1: and never see the outside world. We got this Wall
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Speaker 1: Street guy. Well, it's like, yeah, can he do the job? Like?
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Speaker 1: Does he know what he's doing. Let's use basketball as
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Speaker 1: an example. Rob Polinka and Bob Myers were viewed as
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Speaker 1: outside the box hires because they were not traditional scouts.
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Speaker 1: Rob Polinka played for the Fab of the the Fab
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Speaker 1: four back in Michigan in the early nineties, with Chris
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Speaker 1: Weber Jalen Rose in that crew. He was on that team,
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Speaker 1: he played high level college basketball. Bob Myers, several years later,
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Speaker 1: played on dominant UCLA teams. I think Polenka was a
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Speaker 1: better college player than Bob, but both of them were
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Speaker 1: part of pretty historic collegiate programs and like runs of
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Speaker 1: that program right early nineties Michigan, late nineties UCLA. Then
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Speaker 1: both guys became prominent agents, Polinka obviously with Kobe, several
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Speaker 1: other guys, Bob negotiating contracts for a long list of guys.
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Speaker 1: That transition from doing that to GM to me is
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Speaker 1: not nearly as crazy as just going from Wall Street
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Speaker 1: to running a football team. Right, if you are a
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Speaker 1: lead chef at a restaurant, it's not inconceivable if you
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Speaker 1: have some feel for business that you could then just
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Speaker 1: run the entire restaurant. It's not that crazy of a transition.
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Speaker 1: But just because you're a chef or run a restaurant
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Speaker 1: doesn't mean that you can just run an HVAC company.
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Speaker 1: They're both businesses. They both have overhead, right, they both
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Speaker 1: have client relations, they both are complicated businesses, but they're
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Speaker 1: completely different. They both deal with money. But when I
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Speaker 1: look at the QUESTI higher they got so much credit
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Speaker 1: because like, look at this, think it outside the box. Well,
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Speaker 1: look at what thinking outside the box got them historically
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Speaker 1: bad four year run of drafts Now. The story that
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Speaker 1: went pretty viral on Sunday morning was the athletic putting
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Speaker 1: out a story about his paternity leaf. And I had
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Speaker 1: heard about this last week when he got fired. It was,
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Speaker 1: you know, something people talked about in the NFL for
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Speaker 1: a while. He did not get fired for going on
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Speaker 1: paternity leaf. This happened years ago. He literally got an
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Speaker 1: extension after the fact. If you work at Apple, Amazon,
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Speaker 1: you name it, some major corporation and are just whatever
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Speaker 1: your position is, I would never blame you for taking
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Speaker 1: paternity leaf. As a guy, take everything that is allotted
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Speaker 1: to you. They will get rid of you in the
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Speaker 1: blink of an eye and relative. You know, I'm just assuming,
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Speaker 1: let's just say a one hundred and fifty thousand dollars job,
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Speaker 1: a two hundred fifty thousand dollars job, whatever, five hundred
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Speaker 1: thousand dollars job, you one hundred percent are insane if
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Speaker 1: you don't take paternity leave. Let me state that on
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Speaker 1: the record. Then there are other jobs that like, yeah,
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Speaker 1: I don't think that's gonna fly. Part of being the
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Speaker 1: GM of a team, there are certain times of the
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Speaker 1: year when you were kind of obligated to be there.
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Speaker 1: Let's or a head coach or an assistant coach or
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Speaker 1: a player. You have to missshit that you don't want
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Speaker 1: to miss. Even Lebron James this year on Christmas, who
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Speaker 1: I'm sure he's played in twenty plus straight Christmas games,
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Speaker 1: kind of said, I wish we weren't playing. I'd rather
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Speaker 1: be at home with my family. Guess what he didn't
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Speaker 1: do stay at home with his family. He played in
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Speaker 1: the game because it kind of comes with the territory.
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Speaker 1: As Don Draper once famously said, that's what the money's for.
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Speaker 1: So there are different levels of jobs. No one's asking
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Speaker 1: you either to miss the birth of your child. That's
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Speaker 1: not what anyone is giving him shit about in the NFL.
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Speaker 1: It's then taking off several weeks and working remotely. This
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Speaker 1: ain't Amazon. Homie and Sean McVay this year had a
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Speaker 1: game on a Sunday. His wife gave birth to their
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Speaker 1: second child Sunday night, and he was still able to
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Speaker 1: coach the game on Thursday. Guess where he was Probably
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Speaker 1: not on Monday and Tuesday at the hospital. He was
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Speaker 1: in the facility getting ready. Is that ideal? Is that
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Speaker 1: something most humans would want to do? Of course not.
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Speaker 1: But that's not the way this business works. And if
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Speaker 1: you want this role in this spot, it kind of
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Speaker 1: comes with the territory. Do you think John Schneider or
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Speaker 1: Howie Roseman would take two weeks off during training camp
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Speaker 1: and cutdowns part of the business as a GM as
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Speaker 1: a head coach, which is a coaching staff. Listen, I'm
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Speaker 1: not condoning and celebrating this, but it is what it is.
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Speaker 1: And players are no different, Like, yeah, you get to
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Speaker 1: see the birth of your child, but you're not usually
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Speaker 1: don't miss a game. That's not the way it is.
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Speaker 1: You don't get to miss like a week of training
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Speaker 1: camp for it. And so when he's getting crushed, And
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Speaker 1: of course some of these legacy media is like this
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Speaker 1: sick people are no people are just like well, Sean McVay.
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Speaker 1: Kevin O'Connell is a big family. I think he has
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Speaker 1: like three or four kids. Do you think he took
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Speaker 1: two weeks off wherever he was at the time when
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Speaker 1: he was having children. You think he's at the coach
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Speaker 1: when he was assistant coach with Sean McVay. I'm gonna
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Speaker 1: need two weeks off, Kevin is sweek three. We kind
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Speaker 1: of need you. It's kind of what you sign up for.
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Speaker 1: And as people in the league has described it to me,
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Speaker 1: he comes from a corporate background when you can just
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Speaker 1: do ohoh out of office. That's Howie Roseman, John Schneider
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Speaker 1: less need. These guys don't just do out of office
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Speaker 1: during the season, during training camp, during the draft. Now,
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Speaker 1: again that did not get him fired. But you can't
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Speaker 1: tell me that Kevin O'Connell ever looked at him the
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Speaker 1: same because I'm in this bunker of absolutely grinding. All
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Speaker 1: my players are working there, you know what, off, and
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Speaker 1: I look around and you're just at home. We're trying
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Speaker 1: to put together like who we're gonna claim like that's
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Speaker 1: not really the way this thing works. So when I
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Speaker 1: see people in the league going what and the word
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Speaker 1: used was disbelief, kind of understand it. There are certain
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Speaker 1: jobs and certain roles in this society where's like, hey, cap,
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Speaker 1: a couple weeks off, God speak to you, and again,
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Speaker 1: no one's asking you to not go to the hospital,
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Speaker 1: help go back and forth and spend the day or
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Speaker 1: two there. It's the two weeks of just going remote
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Speaker 1: is a little weird to everybody because none of them
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Speaker 1: do that. Why because it's not really on the table
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Speaker 1: for anyone else, not the coaches, not the players. So
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Speaker 1: this isn't like being unfair to him. You think if
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Speaker 1: Justin Jefferson has a kid, or Kirk Cousins have as
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Speaker 1: a kid, or Sam Darnold were to have a kid,
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Speaker 1: or Kevin O'Connell was another kid, or Brian Flores, they
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Speaker 1: just disappear for two weeks. Of course not so that
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Speaker 1: story to me, like has a lot of weight. He
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Speaker 1: becomes kind of a joke in the league because you
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Speaker 1: factor that in with people watch what he's doing. It
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Speaker 1: doesn't really feel like he knows or is any good
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Speaker 1: at it, which is the main part of the problem.
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Speaker 1: So when you have this stuff that no one else does,
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Speaker 1: if you're the best in the business, what are they
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Speaker 1: gonna say? Lebron can do shit that no one else did.
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Speaker 1: He used to get people traded for twenty plus years.
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Speaker 1: Who he's the best player in the league. Do you
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Speaker 1: know who can't do that? The seventy fifth best player
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Speaker 1: in the league. No one gives a shit what his
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Speaker 1: opinions are in the front officer of the coaching staff
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Speaker 1: when it comes to player acquisition. So if you would
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Speaker 1: if Howie Roseman wanted to take a week off, probably
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Speaker 1: pull it off. Never really saw him do that on
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Speaker 1: never disappeared at all. So and he was creating a
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Speaker 1: family at the time. So I just think that the
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Speaker 1: paternity issue is your classic social media polarizing kind of headline.
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Speaker 1: But I completely understand. Like, do you think Sean McVeigh
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Speaker 1: wanted to sleep five hours from Sunday night up until
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Speaker 1: the Thursday night game is against Seattle? Of course not.
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Speaker 1: It's not a deal. Didn't have a choice. What is
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Speaker 1: he gonna do? Hey, hey, Stafford, you handle this one, bro.
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be uh, I'm be at home. I'm being
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Speaker 1: home changing some diapers, my man, and I'm pro changing diapers,
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Speaker 1: done a lot of it, but that's embarrassing. There's really
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22:28
Speaker 1: the Raiders. You gotta give the raid or some credit.
22:32
Speaker 1: This feels for the first time, like I see what
22:35
Speaker 1: you're doing there. That's a good hire. That makes a
22:38
Speaker 1: lot of sense. It was announced that they have hired
22:41
Speaker 1: Clint Kubiak, the Seattle Seahawks offensive coordinator, to be their
22:44
Speaker 1: next head coach. And let's just run through a little
22:48
Speaker 1: bio on Clint. Obviously, Gary Sun and I've always said
22:52
Speaker 1: the Kubiaks and the Shanahans are basically cousins. I know
22:56
Speaker 1: they're not technically related, they might as well be. Clint
23:00
Speaker 1: played safety in college at Colorado State, where he was
23:05
Speaker 1: a captain as a senior. I was reading a little
23:08
Speaker 1: bio on him. He was a team captain at Colorado
23:12
Speaker 1: State where he played safety. So it's not like he
23:15
Speaker 1: was an offensive guy. But he was born into the family.
23:19
Speaker 1: He was born into football. And to me, what I like,
23:23
Speaker 1: it's not like he worked for Gary his whole career. Honestly,
23:26
Speaker 1: only worked for him for a couple of years. He's
23:28
Speaker 1: worked for Mike Zimmer and Kevin Stefanski. He's worked for
23:32
Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan. He's now worked for Mike McDonald. Last year
23:34
Speaker 1: he worked in New Orleans with when Dennis Allen and
23:38
Speaker 1: Dennis Allen got fired. But he's seen a lot of
23:40
Speaker 1: different things. So for a guy who turns thirty nine
23:43
Speaker 1: here in a couple of weeks, he has a ton
23:45
Speaker 1: of experience. And to me, from a football standpoint, what
23:50
Speaker 1: is fires me up the most and would if I
23:53
Speaker 1: was a Raider fan. His offense is Taylor made to
23:57
Speaker 1: Fernando Mendoza. When I watched for Nando Mendoza play. I
24:01
Speaker 1: think that is a Kyle Shanahan offensive player. He's accurate,
24:06
Speaker 1: he's mobile, and he's gonna thrive under center. Like when
24:10
Speaker 1: I've watched him play at Indiana, I thought he is
24:13
Speaker 1: ideal for the Laflor in Green Bay Kyle and San
24:17
Speaker 1: Francisco Kubiak in Seattle. An offense that is gonna be
24:20
Speaker 1: run oriented, which he did in Indiana, and have ideally
24:25
Speaker 1: less than thirty attempts a game, and you're gonna have
24:29
Speaker 1: to make a small percentage of really really hard plays.
24:32
Speaker 1: Obviously some games change a little bit depending on the score,
24:35
Speaker 1: but that's how ideally they want to play. And if
24:37
Speaker 1: your Clint, you come in with the number one pick Mendoza,
24:42
Speaker 1: who's gonna fit your offensive scheme. They just drafted a
24:44
Speaker 1: running back in the top ten who Jens did show
24:47
Speaker 1: signs at the end of the year. He had some
24:49
Speaker 1: big games late. Just you know, it's a very talented player.
24:52
Speaker 1: Is he ever gonna live up to being the six pick?
24:53
Speaker 1: Time will tell, but he's he's definitely starter in the NFL.
24:56
Speaker 1: They're gonna need more out of him. He's gonna need
24:58
Speaker 1: to push him. I mean look what happened with Kenneth
25:00
Speaker 1: Walker down the stretch of the season. He's been excellent,
25:03
Speaker 1: and they got Brock Bauers, who is a superstar when
25:06
Speaker 1: he's on the field and healthy. So you have some
25:08
Speaker 1: core pieces there. On offense, you got a star tight end,
25:11
Speaker 1: a running back that you need to take up a level,
25:13
Speaker 1: and the number one pick on offense. I also think
25:15
Speaker 1: as a young guy, you come in with spy tech,
25:18
Speaker 1: another young guy, and you get to build it the
25:19
Speaker 1: wrong the right way. Pete Carroll like any old guy,
25:24
Speaker 1: they're not thinking about the next ten years. Pete. Pete. Now,
25:27
Speaker 1: he's probably gonna live long because he looks fantastic at
25:29
Speaker 1: seventy five. But like Pete Carroll, was living day to day,
25:32
Speaker 1: game to game. Pete, Pete Carroll. If you're like, hey,
25:35
Speaker 1: should we have a conversation about entertaining seeing what we
25:39
Speaker 1: get on the open market? About Max Crosby last year
25:41
Speaker 1: when they took over the job, which they should have done,
25:45
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll would have thrown his body against that because
25:48
Speaker 1: he would not be into that at all because he
25:50
Speaker 1: was trying to win Week one, Week two. He was
25:52
Speaker 1: obsessed with the short term and the Raiders the way
25:56
Speaker 1: they currently are should be a big picture, long term operation,
26:00
Speaker 1: especially in the division they are. Now, you get a
26:02
Speaker 1: younger guy with a big picture view spytech and him
26:05
Speaker 1: can do it the right way. And to me, the
26:07
Speaker 1: number one thing they have to do, and this is
26:09
Speaker 1: not easy because he's everything you want in a player.
26:13
Speaker 1: But for the health of your organization is you have
26:15
Speaker 1: to entertain trading Max Crosby this offseason. You don't have
26:18
Speaker 1: to do it, but you're insane if you don't go
26:21
Speaker 1: to the combine and you talk to people and just go, hey,
26:24
Speaker 1: could we get a couple first round picks and just
26:26
Speaker 1: change the course of our setup here and invest in
26:30
Speaker 1: the offensive line and just kind of start over, and
26:34
Speaker 1: in fairness, kind of throw Max Crosby a bone. Let
26:37
Speaker 1: him go to a place that can win. A Chicago,
26:41
Speaker 1: a Philly, a Detroit, a Buffalo, you name it, but
26:45
Speaker 1: a team that's gonna compete for the playoffs, because the
26:47
Speaker 1: Raiders just simply are not going to compete for the
26:49
Speaker 1: playoffs next year. And if you're Max Crosby in the
26:52
Speaker 1: prime of your career, you play your ass off, you
26:55
Speaker 1: kind of deserve that. It's kind of got an NBA
26:57
Speaker 1: like Kevin Garnett Jannis Field. It's like this ain't working.
27:02
Speaker 1: We're not on the same timelines here. And for the
27:04
Speaker 1: first time, it feels like the Raiders now have a
27:07
Speaker 1: vision in a couple of years because they've just been
27:10
Speaker 1: off kilter with all the firings. And you bring in
27:13
Speaker 1: a young guy and you just let him in spytech
27:16
Speaker 1: cook and just see if they can build it around
27:18
Speaker 1: the quarterback. And they're lucky that. You know, some drafts
27:21
Speaker 1: have a quarterback that you feel very comfortable with, and
27:25
Speaker 1: this is a guy to me that fits this offensive
27:27
Speaker 1: scheme perfectly. So if I'm a Raider fan, I'm pretty excited.
27:30
Speaker 1: We get a young hot shot who really resurrected his
27:34
Speaker 1: career over the last couple of years in terms of
27:37
Speaker 1: just becoming an offensive coordinator, being a guy like God,
27:40
Speaker 1: this guy knows this system like the back of his hand.
27:42
Speaker 1: Of course he does. It's literally his dad's family business.
27:46
Speaker 1: This offense. That this offense we talked so much about
27:50
Speaker 1: the Shanahan family. Go back and look when Kyle was
27:53
Speaker 1: Gary's offensive coordinator with the Houston Texans, when they had
27:58
Speaker 1: the likes of I'm trying to think of the running back.
28:02
Speaker 1: I don't know why I'm blinking right now. He's from Tennessee,
28:05
Speaker 1: Arian Foster and the number one rushing attack in the league.
28:09
Speaker 1: They had Andre Johnson and the tight ends thrived. The
28:13
Speaker 1: offense was football porn. It didn't get any better. It
28:16
Speaker 1: was unstoppable. Matt Schaub was their quarterback and they were
28:20
Speaker 1: going to the playoffs every year. Now they didn't go
28:22
Speaker 1: anywhere in the playoffs, but it kicked asd and took names.
28:26
Speaker 1: So props to the Raiders for finally doing something that goes, oh,
28:30
Speaker 1: that makes a lot of sense. Kyle Shanahan, Robert Saw
28:34
Speaker 1: left and he needed a defensive coordinator and a lot
28:37
Speaker 1: of signs pointed to like Gus Bradley, who had been
28:40
Speaker 1: on the staff. I think they had kind of brought
28:42
Speaker 1: him with Robert because they knew that Saw could get
28:45
Speaker 1: ahead of coaching job, and obviously he did. I was like, Oh,
28:47
Speaker 1: he's just gonna name Gus Bradley the guy, and Kyle
28:50
Speaker 1: even said at the end of the year press conference
28:52
Speaker 1: that Gus Bradley's the number one internal candidate. But the
28:55
Speaker 1: moment Raheem Morris got fired, and obviously when Jim Schwartz
28:59
Speaker 1: became available last week in theory. Who knows that the
29:02
Speaker 1: Browns let him go. You couldn't hire Gus Bradley. Gus
29:05
Speaker 1: Bradley seems like a great guy, But the forty nine Ers,
29:09
Speaker 1: I couldn't name my defensive coordinator one. I think he's
29:11
Speaker 1: not a great defensive coordinator. Great guy, probably a great
29:14
Speaker 1: position coach, great guy to have in the operation. But
29:18
Speaker 1: if you had the opportunity to get Raheem Morse, if
29:20
Speaker 1: you had the opportunity to get Jim Schwartz, you had
29:22
Speaker 1: to do it. Especially Kyle and Raheem are like really
29:25
Speaker 1: good friends. I mean, Kyle Shanahan and Sean McVay are
29:28
Speaker 1: like Raheem's guys. So love the hire part of the
29:35
Speaker 1: forty nine ers. You know Robert Solid Demico Ryans. They
29:40
Speaker 1: have not only had great defensive coaches, those guys really
29:44
Speaker 1: resonated with their players. There was something about Fred and Bosa,
29:49
Speaker 1: about the way they talked to those guys and the
29:52
Speaker 1: way they interacted with those guys that just inspired something
29:54
Speaker 1: that other guys have not, And I think that was
29:56
Speaker 1: something that Raheem brings to the table. I mentioned this
29:59
Speaker 1: with Brian Fluor. Not a good head coach clearly right,
30:04
Speaker 1: I'm talking about Raheem Morse. But there's nothing like being
30:07
Speaker 1: a number two in the NFL. When you're a highly
30:10
Speaker 1: thought of and you know, desired individual, you make millions
30:15
Speaker 1: of dollars. So I think Raheem Morris makes a ton
30:18
Speaker 1: of sense, and I honestly I don't think the forty
30:22
Speaker 1: niners will really skip a beat. I mean, I actually
30:25
Speaker 1: think you could kind of maintain that level. He just
30:27
Speaker 1: had a ton of success before he went to Atlanta
30:29
Speaker 1: with Sean McVay in La. He's a really really good
30:32
Speaker 1: defensive mind. He's just a fantastic certain guys. Saala has this.
30:38
Speaker 1: They're just elite with players, I mean elite with players
30:41
Speaker 1: and Raheem iss and there's something that I don't know
30:43
Speaker 1: if he's missing when he's a head coach. Maybe maybe
30:45
Speaker 1: he's just the accountability isn't there. You don't need to
30:48
Speaker 1: do that with the forty nine ers. Kyle handles that right,
30:51
Speaker 1: The organization handles that. Rahem just gets the coach, just
30:54
Speaker 1: gets the fire guys up and fucking scheme the defense.
30:57
Speaker 1: So love the hire. The Arizona Cardinals have have hired
31:03
Speaker 1: Matt Lafleur or Mike Lafloor, Matt is the coach agreement
31:08
Speaker 1: Packers Mike's Mike and Madder brothers, obviously, And my number
31:12
Speaker 1: one take is like whatever, And this is nothing against Lafloor,
31:17
Speaker 1: who probably got a raw deal a couple of years
31:19
Speaker 1: ago when Woody forced him to fire Robert to fire him.
31:23
Speaker 1: This Arizona job's horrendous. I know they got some players,
31:25
Speaker 1: they have no quarterback, and they're in a division with
31:28
Speaker 1: Sean McVay, Kyle shanahan, and Mike McDonald with an owner
31:31
Speaker 1: who is one of, if not the cheapest guys in
31:34
Speaker 1: the league that the league would love to have him
31:38
Speaker 1: sell the team. That's a Roger Goodell wet dream that
31:42
Speaker 1: Bidwell calls him one day is like I want out.
31:44
Speaker 1: I want to cash in. Get my You probably sell
31:47
Speaker 1: the team for five to seven billion dollars and just
31:50
Speaker 1: cash out. They would there's they would love that to happen,
31:55
Speaker 1: but no signs point to that happening anytime soon. So
31:58
Speaker 1: you got to deal with him. This organization is just
32:01
Speaker 1: it's been terrible since I was a kid, and I
32:05
Speaker 1: don't see much changing. So I don't blame Lafloor for
32:09
Speaker 1: taking this job. You get a huge raise, they fire
32:12
Speaker 1: you in a couple of years. I gotta pay you
32:13
Speaker 1: to go away, and you can just be an offensive
32:14
Speaker 1: coordinator somewhere else. But what is their path? How do
32:19
Speaker 1: you find? Who are the quarterbacks even available? One in
32:21
Speaker 1: free agency? And this draft is terrible, so and you
32:25
Speaker 1: obviously don't know the number one pick. This is nothing
32:27
Speaker 1: against Lafleur as a coach, which I'm sure he will
32:30
Speaker 1: be fine, like Kubiak will run that thing. But I
32:33
Speaker 1: would say the same thing kind of about the Raider job.
32:38
Speaker 1: If there was no quarterback to be at I'd be like,
32:39
Speaker 1: what are you gonna do? And that's my question to Arizona,
32:42
Speaker 1: what are you gonna do? And the answer is I
32:44
Speaker 1: don't know. Neither do they because there is no answer
32:48
Speaker 1: in the immediate future. So if you have no quarterback
32:50
Speaker 1: in this league, we saw last year Jacoby actually didn't
32:54
Speaker 1: play bad and they were getting their ass kicked every
32:56
Speaker 1: single week. So I just think Cardinal fans, I don't
33:01
Speaker 1: know how many there are of you. I know, Producer
33:04
Speaker 1: Jackson's a big one. I think you're in for dark
33:07
Speaker 1: days ahead. I just don't see much changing. I really don't.
33:11
Speaker 1: And another big story that was reported at the end
33:15
Speaker 1: of last week that seems kind of all but confirmed
33:19
Speaker 1: is the Seattle Seahawks are going to go up for sale.
33:26
Speaker 1: You know, Paul Allen, the owner of the Blazers in
33:28
Speaker 1: Seattle and the Seahawks, passed away several years ago and
33:31
Speaker 1: now it's in his family. There there was a report
33:34
Speaker 1: by the Wall Street Journal that the NFL find them
33:37
Speaker 1: for five million dollars because of some sort of ownership
33:42
Speaker 1: I don't even you know, they didn't meet certain standards.
33:46
Speaker 1: It was kind of confusing. I didn't quite understand it.
33:49
Speaker 1: The NFL is pushed back saying that was not true.
33:52
Speaker 1: The Seattle Seahawks denied it. Either way, it all signs
33:56
Speaker 1: due point to this franchise becoming available. And it's just,
34:01
Speaker 1: you know, the Commanders became available a couple of years ago.
34:04
Speaker 1: They had no quarterback, they had no coach, it they
34:07
Speaker 1: have a changing name all the time, they need a
34:11
Speaker 1: new stadium. It's just it was a lot, right, and
34:14
Speaker 1: that's franchise went for what six billion dollars. Seattle could
34:18
Speaker 1: potentially becoming office supable. I mean, they're the heavy favorites
34:22
Speaker 1: to win this game. I think most of us unless
34:24
Speaker 1: there's some patriot Diard expects Seattle to win unless Sam
34:27
Speaker 1: Darnell plays a terrible game. They have a star young coach,
34:32
Speaker 1: they have a superstar general manager. It doesn't get that
34:36
Speaker 1: much better, you know. Like I look at the Lakers
34:40
Speaker 1: that Jenie sold. The percentage was valued on ten billion dollars.
34:45
Speaker 1: I think it's a little bit not overvalued because it's
34:48
Speaker 1: an all time great brand. But is JJ Redick any good?
34:52
Speaker 1: You know, it's like, okay, you got Luca, well, okay,
34:55
Speaker 1: Lebron's about to retire, the local television revenue is going
34:58
Speaker 1: to slowly disappear. It's actually more of a and you
35:03
Speaker 1: got a salary cap that's hard capped. It's a little
35:05
Speaker 1: more challenging than just like paying a premium to buy
35:08
Speaker 1: the Dodgers. To me, this NFL team that has an
35:11
Speaker 1: incredible fan base. And this is not me shitting on Lakers.
35:15
Speaker 1: My point is taking over that job is gonna take
35:18
Speaker 1: some work, right. It's not like it's just hey, ready
35:20
Speaker 1: made Phil Jackson, Kobe Bryant, shack boom, Jerry West taking
35:24
Speaker 1: run like that's not quite Seattle, but they're much closer
35:29
Speaker 1: to that than they are, Like the Washington commanders a
35:31
Speaker 1: couple of years. So whatever the number is, Now, how
35:34
Speaker 1: many humans on this earth can't afford to pay five, six,
35:40
Speaker 1: seven eight billion dollars for something? Right? It's why a
35:43
Speaker 1: lot of these groups now or teams are bought in groups.
35:47
Speaker 1: You know, there have been rumors about Jeff Bezos. Could
35:49
Speaker 1: he purchase it? Does he want to? Like? Does he
35:52
Speaker 1: want to own an NFL team? Could he? Yes? Does
35:56
Speaker 1: he want to? Because if you don't want to, why
35:58
Speaker 1: do you want to hassle? So how many Jeff Bezos
36:01
Speaker 1: types are there? There's not as many as you think.
36:04
Speaker 1: And here's the other thing. The NFL's does not sell
36:06
Speaker 1: them to anybody. They gotta feel comfortable. Like David Tepper
36:09
Speaker 1: was already a minority owner, Jimmy Haslam was already a
36:12
Speaker 1: minority owner. Both those guys were already in the circle.
36:15
Speaker 1: I've said this forever about commissioners. They are never gonna
36:19
Speaker 1: hire a commissioner that's from like the number two for
36:23
Speaker 1: Jamie Diamond. It's like, oh, the NFL just Roger Goodell's
36:27
Speaker 1: replacement was coming from JP Morgan Chase. That's never happening. Now.
36:31
Speaker 1: There's too many bodies buried, too much shady shit going.
36:35
Speaker 1: You keep it in the house. It's like a membership.
36:37
Speaker 1: It's like Augusta National. Once you're in the club, you're
36:40
Speaker 1: in the club. But everything stays in the club. Anything
36:43
Speaker 1: gets leaked, you're in fucking big trouble. That's not gonna
36:46
Speaker 1: fly here. It's why I've said Brian Rolapped the new
36:49
Speaker 1: PGA Tour commissioner. Why do you think he took that
36:52
Speaker 1: job because he wants to prove to the NFL owners
36:55
Speaker 1: when Roger retires. Look at me, look at what I've done.
36:58
Speaker 1: Like you already knew me. You're already comfortable with me.
37:01
Speaker 1: You know, I know what no one else is supposed
37:04
Speaker 1: to know. But now I've proven that I can run
37:06
Speaker 1: this which is way more difficult and way more niche
37:10
Speaker 1: and had way more shit going on than you guys do.
37:13
Speaker 1: It's pretty like I would be stunned if Brian Rolapp
37:16
Speaker 1: is not the next commissioner of the National Football League.
37:19
Speaker 1: They're not just going to hire like some random business guy.
37:21
Speaker 1: That's not how it works. Look at all the other
37:23
Speaker 1: sports man, Fred Adam Silver, you keep it in the family.
37:28
Speaker 1: So I am fascinated. Is there a guy, a minority
37:33
Speaker 1: owner on a different team with a bunch of money
37:36
Speaker 1: that wants his own team, because clearly Jimmy Haslam, David Tepper,
37:41
Speaker 1: Josh Harris was kind of unique. This is this ultra
37:43
Speaker 1: rich guy who already owned a team someone like that,
37:47
Speaker 1: which again I don't know who's gonna be, but they're
37:50
Speaker 1: gonna get a ton of money, and whoever does buy
37:52
Speaker 1: this team is going to be pretty lucky because this
37:55
Speaker 1: team is a pretty unique by Typically, like you buy
37:59
Speaker 1: the Browns, right, you buy the Panthers, you just buy
38:02
Speaker 1: something that's in shambles. That is not the case here.
38:04
Speaker 1: When's the last time. Let's assume they win, So they
38:08
Speaker 1: win the Super Bowl, A championship team within a week
38:12
Speaker 1: or a month just is available for purchase. I'm sure
38:16
Speaker 1: it's happened before, way back in the day. Doesn't feel
38:19
Speaker 1: like it's happened anytime recently. So the Allens are going
38:25
Speaker 1: to make out Paulitizer's credit. I mean he made a
38:29
Speaker 1: couple of purchases and that they've been financially pretty lucrative,
38:33
Speaker 1: you know, pretty good. ROI on buying that bad boy,
38:37
Speaker 1: so you know, Seattle, he gets a lot of credit
38:40
Speaker 1: that John Schneider, Pete Carrol tandem and then is obviously
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Speaker 1: keeping John has just kept the thing rolling. So I'm
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Speaker 1: sure that'll be a story this week about the potential sale,
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Speaker 1: who would be interested, what would be names to keep
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