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Tigers Keep Flexing On MLB With Another Dominating Performance From Unlikely Sources · Tiger Territory: A Detroit Tigers Podcast

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  Speaker 1: And welcome into another episode of Tiger's Territory, part of
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  Speaker 1: the Foul Territory Network, a Detroit Tiger's podcast. I'm Karen Steckley.
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  Speaker 1: With me are two Cooper Flags of podcasting sphere. We
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  Speaker 1: got we got Cody Save and Haagen. What's up fellas?
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  Speaker 2: How are we doing sit on that signing bonus?
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  Speaker 3: Hey bringing that through and then we can we can
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  Speaker 3: start talking like that.
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  Speaker 1: Right Well, we are recording this a couple hours after
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  Speaker 1: the Tigers secured another series when a victory over the
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  Speaker 1: insert city here Athletics, And and since we're recording this
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  Speaker 1: shortly after the game, we're gonna do a little thing
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  Speaker 1: that I like to do.
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  Speaker 4: And then it's just kind of like lean into.
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  Speaker 1: A like overreaction prison of the moment stuff about what
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  Speaker 1: we just witnessed. And I gotta say, watching that game
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  Speaker 1: then kind of thinking back about, you know, the way
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  Speaker 1: it went down, that might have been the biggest flex
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  Speaker 1: game the Tigers have had this season, Like they just
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  Speaker 1: kind of they hit him with that flex. They hit
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  Speaker 1: him with that flex today because he like, what are
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  Speaker 1: the Tigers made of? They're They're made of opportune hitting,
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  Speaker 1: They're made of great pitching. They're made of guys that
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  Speaker 1: you ever heard of, or you like, didn't expect having
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  Speaker 1: great outputs, and that's exactly what we saw. We're gonna
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  Speaker 1: talk about Deetrich Ends he shoved yet Chase Lee the
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  Speaker 1: side armor.
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  Speaker 4: He's yeah, what does he do?
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  Speaker 1: He just comes in. He doesn't give up runs. Tor
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  Speaker 1: hit a home run, a guy that us, the Tigers,
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  Speaker 1: all of baseball kind of wrote off coming into this year.
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  Speaker 1: Torres a guy who seemingly didn't really have a true
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  Speaker 1: home and free agency until he inked a deal with
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  Speaker 1: the Tigers. He has the home run. We'll talk about
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  Speaker 1: him a little bit later too. Jamai Jones, Jami Jones,
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  Speaker 1: anybody's turns out. You just give this guy at bats
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  Speaker 1: and he's gonna produce, especially against left handed pitching. And
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  Speaker 1: then Zach McKinstry. Literally anybody in baseball over the last
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  Speaker 1: three years could have had Zach McKinstry, and he and
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  Speaker 1: the Tigers grabbed them a couple of years ago, and
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  Speaker 1: they held on to him when there were people kind
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  Speaker 1: of President Company included, saying like you do you really
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  Speaker 1: do you really need Zach McKinstry. As I said before,
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  Speaker 1: he's a home run short of the cycle. Might have
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  Speaker 1: had the greatest game in the history of Major League
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  Speaker 1: Baseball for a guy who got thrown out twice. You know,
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  Speaker 1: So all that with your backup catcher, who by the way,
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  Speaker 1: is pretty good at calling games, you know, so that's
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  Speaker 1: another flex.
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  Speaker 4: And then and then Riley Green.
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  Speaker 1: Goes hitless and you still lose eight to nothing. Like
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  Speaker 1: the all the all these elements that the Tigers do,
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  Speaker 1: they kind of put all into one little ball and
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  Speaker 1: it was a eight nothing win over the Athletics. Another
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  Speaker 1: you thought, okay, you had us yesterday, you thought maybe
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  Speaker 1: you could steal one. Nah, not not gonna happen. So
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  Speaker 1: the Tigers right now fifty one and thirty one, and
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  Speaker 1: they are exactly who they thought, who we thought they were.
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  Speaker 5: Sorry, that is funny because we've kind of we kind
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  Speaker 5: of went back and forth on this, but I feel
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  Speaker 5: like we've kind of we've stood strong on this. Like, Listen,
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  Speaker 5: the whole season has has basically been them showing who
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  Speaker 5: we thought they were. And we've been saying that this
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  Speaker 5: whole time on this podcast, Like we've been trying to
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  Speaker 5: find little things that this Tigers team isn't And there
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  Speaker 5: are some Don't get me wrong, there are a few
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  Speaker 5: things that are like, Okay, maybe we need to address this,
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  Speaker 5: we need to address that.
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  Speaker 6: That's with all teams.
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  Speaker 3: There's never going to be a perfect, just formula for
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  Speaker 3: winning necessarily, you know, because we're talking about human beings here,
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  Speaker 3: Like we're all faulty at some point. But what we're
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  Speaker 3: seeing is just this team is just consistent, Like even
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  Speaker 3: when there are the little down moments that we have seen,
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  Speaker 3: like the team has still consistently been who they are
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  Speaker 3: throughout that process. That's what That's what I look like
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  Speaker 3: even seeing today, Like just the base running, which we've
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  Speaker 3: we we we've touched on that before, Like the aggressiveness
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  Speaker 3: with that, like that does not stop that could that
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  Speaker 3: could easily be something that could alter the way a
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  Speaker 3: team like functions like hey, we're not scoring runs, or
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  Speaker 3: we're not winning games, or you know, we're kind of
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  Speaker 3: in a funk and you know, hey, let's not let's
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  Speaker 3: not be as aggressive because we don't want to run
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  Speaker 3: in the outs and that's just not who this team is.
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  Speaker 6: It is full on the model.
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  Speaker 3: Every time this team is on the field, every time
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  Speaker 3: the Tigers hit the field, it's it's like they're trying
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  Speaker 3: to make a statement of like, this is who we're
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  Speaker 3: gonna be. No matter how we're doing, we are going
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  Speaker 3: to put the pressure on you. And it's not just
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  Speaker 3: with our backs, it's with the way that we played
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  Speaker 3: the game at any given moment. Like I love the
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  Speaker 3: way that that that you know, Hobby, I think he
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  Speaker 3: hit a groundball and had to slide at and then
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  Speaker 3: McKinstry tried to come around and score.
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  Speaker 6: I don't mind it. I do not mind the.
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  Speaker 3: Aggressiveness of that because it keeps teams like on their
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  Speaker 3: toes every single play. There is no play off with
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  Speaker 3: this team, Like you cannot take a playoff because this
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  Speaker 3: Tigers team will take advantage of that. And it is
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  Speaker 3: It's just it's special, man, And I truly believe that's
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  Speaker 3: why they're in this position because the consistency with that,
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  Speaker 3: the consistency of we are going to be who we're
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  Speaker 3: gonna be.
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  Speaker 6: We're gonna be them.
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  Speaker 3: Gritty Tigers, and they're they're they're showing that each and
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  Speaker 3: every game.
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  Speaker 6: And I love it. Man.
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  Speaker 3: It's this was a great series for me. There's so
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  Speaker 3: much to talk about and I'm gonna let you guys
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  Speaker 3: have it. Man, because I love I love it. I
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  Speaker 3: love this series. I think it was a great series
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  Speaker 3: to really like to show, like put a stamp on,
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  Speaker 3: like no, we are that, we are that team. We
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  Speaker 3: still are that team. Y'all keep looking for us to fail,
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  Speaker 3: but we're still hitting y'all in the mouth every time
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  Speaker 3: we are here. So there it.
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  Speaker 6: Is, guys.
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  Speaker 2: I can't get over this. From this game Thursday, the
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  Speaker 2: Tigers threw a shutout and these are the guys they used.
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  Speaker 2: Dietrich Inns, thirty four years old, hasn't pitched in the
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  Speaker 2: big leagues in three years. Came out of Japan in Korea.
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  Speaker 2: Bernon Hannafy. Tigers got this guy's a minor league free agent.
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  Speaker 2: Nobody wanted him. He was in the Orioles system. They
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  Speaker 2: let him go. Tyler Holten dfaed by the DBAs. Chase
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  Speaker 2: Lee had a walk on at Alabama. Got him in
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  Speaker 2: a trade from the Rangers. Will Vess was a twelfth
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  Speaker 2: round pick. Mariners plucked him in the Rule five draft
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  Speaker 2: once gave him back. All of these guys except will
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  Speaker 2: Vest where products of the Scott Harris era. The Tigers.
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  Speaker 2: We know they've gotten really good at finding talent and
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  Speaker 2: then procuring talent. This is getting creative, and this is
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  Speaker 2: getting value at a time where your pitching staff has
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  Speaker 2: been tested. We've talked a lot about that. Look, look
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  Speaker 2: we've talked about the value of Chase Lee. But it's
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  Speaker 2: not accident either. There were times last year we're like,
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  Speaker 2: where are they getting these guys? Joe blow and he
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  Speaker 2: comes in, But it's not an accident. Dietrich Ends has
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  Speaker 2: a five pitch arsenal and a changeup that's come really
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  Speaker 2: good in hand if he has an outlier sinker. Tyler
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  Speaker 2: Holton got an MVP vote last year. He's got a
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  Speaker 2: tremendous sinker and slider. He didn't throw a sinker until
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  Speaker 2: he came to the Tigers. Chase Lee, deceptive release, good slider.
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  Speaker 2: Will Vest not the same guy he a few years ago.
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  Speaker 2: He used to throw ninety four. Now he's sitting ninety seven,
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  Speaker 2: ninety eight. There are some things this organization's doing really well,
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  Speaker 2: and I think today was a quintessential example of that.
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  Speaker 2: Just look at how they pieced together the pitching, Look
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  Speaker 2: at where they got these guys, look at how creative
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  Speaker 2: they are and how good they have gotten that development,
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  Speaker 2: and you can start to understand why they have the
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  Speaker 2: best record in baseball.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you know that was actually I'm glad you showed
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  Speaker 1: that graphic. And by the way, if you subscribe on YouTube,
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  Speaker 1: you can you can see that. As Cody's talking, I
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  Speaker 1: forgot to include. Oh and then just for kicks, throw
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  Speaker 1: in an all star closer slash like shut down guy
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  Speaker 1: at the end because he has it pitched in a
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  Speaker 1: week and we just kind of want to get him
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  Speaker 1: some work and we'll invest there at the end, and
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  Speaker 1: an ate nothing game. I mean, that's that's a flex too, Like,
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  Speaker 1: let's be honest about that.
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  Speaker 4: It is remarkable.
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  Speaker 1: It is something that like sometimes I feel like, man,
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  Speaker 1: I'm me being like too repetitive like talking about this,
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  Speaker 1: and I know what choice we have when they keep
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  Speaker 1: doing it, like they keep they keep repeatedly doing it,
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna have to keep repeatedly talking about it.
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  Speaker 6: And so like I.
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  Speaker 1: It's remarkable, Like sometimes those words get thrown out too much,
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  Speaker 1: but it's remarkable. And Cody, I did want to bring
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  Speaker 1: up torqu real quick because I don't want to get
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  Speaker 1: lost in that, because this was the guy we hadn't
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  Speaker 1: talked about him in a second.
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  Speaker 4: This is the guy who kind of been through it.
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  Speaker 6: What was it?
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  Speaker 1: Two for thirty two? Two for thirty two. He got
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  Speaker 1: off the schneid with that home run. I remember thinking, man,
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  Speaker 1: he was plus four hundred. They must really think he's
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  Speaker 1: going to get a hold of one. And then like
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  Speaker 1: his that at bad he got a hold of the
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  Speaker 1: change up outside and pulled it. You put on X
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  Speaker 1: Cody that you know he's not letting that stuff bother him.
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  Speaker 1: I wonder if there's a if you could expand on
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  Speaker 1: that religious to like real quickly.
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  Speaker 4: It's like, this is a.
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  Speaker 1: Guy who when things were tough, he would show so
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  Speaker 1: like when they were getting like really tough the past
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  Speaker 1: couple of years, he would show like that negative emotion
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  Speaker 1: and obviously understandably so. But this year we talked about
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  Speaker 1: the changes with the swing, the changes with like the
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  Speaker 1: personnel around him and being more open to things, but
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  Speaker 1: that this was a real example of seeing a different
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  Speaker 1: aspect of torque changing in a way. Is that like
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  Speaker 1: he's not letting this stuff get him down.
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  Speaker 2: Well, there were times in the past couple of years
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  Speaker 2: that he's looked totally lost at the plate. Have you
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  Speaker 2: ever thought he looked lost this year?
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  Speaker 6: Don't?
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  Speaker 2: I don't think I have. He's had a few of
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  Speaker 2: these kind of mini droughts where he's been three for
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  Speaker 2: thirty or whatever that's happened I think three different times.
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  Speaker 2: But for the most part, he still had pretty good
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  Speaker 2: at bats, hit the ball hard. Hasn't always fallen. I
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  Speaker 2: think back to the opening series Dodger Stadium. We were,
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  Speaker 2: you know, had a nice game. We were talking to
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  Speaker 2: him about it's good spring. He said the thing the
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  Speaker 2: angel and one shoulder devil on the other, you know,
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  Speaker 2: and he was listening to that angel and he's like, okay.
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  Speaker 2: I asked him, like, how do you how do you
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  Speaker 2: make sure you keep listening to that that the right
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  Speaker 2: voice on your shoulder, And he's like, it's just a
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  Speaker 2: matter of trusting it because you know there's gonna be
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  Speaker 2: a one for twelve. And then what do you do.
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  Speaker 2: Am I gonna change? Am I gonna come out of
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  Speaker 2: my approach? I think we'd seen Spencer Toorkalsing come out
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  Speaker 2: of his approach in years past. He hasn't really done
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  Speaker 2: that this year. So I asked him again today, like
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  Speaker 2: are you proud of that? You know, the batting average
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  Speaker 2: is down to two twenty four. Don't love that, But
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  Speaker 2: said Homers, still playing at a borderline all star level,
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  Speaker 2: still giving you pretty good at bats almost every time up.
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  Speaker 2: That's pretty impressible.
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  Speaker 6: And that's what experience does to you.
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  Speaker 3: Though, Like at some point you start to realize, like
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  Speaker 3: what can I control? What can I control? Who am I?
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  Speaker 3: Who am I as a player as a person, And
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  Speaker 3: if I'm gonna if I'm gonna let every at bat
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  Speaker 3: dictate my move the way that I come out here
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  Speaker 3: and play this game, then I'm gonna have a tough
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  Speaker 3: time because you are going to fail. And what I
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  Speaker 3: what I honestly feel like I see as a guy
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  Speaker 3: that's not necessarily worried about every.
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  Speaker 6: Outcome of an at bat.
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  Speaker 3: You know, it looks more like I am going to
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  Speaker 3: stick to the process, the thing that I started the
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  Speaker 3: spring training out as, and what my mindset out as
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  Speaker 3: in spring training. I'm going to continue that no matter what.
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  Speaker 3: I know that I'm gonna have these failures. I know
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  Speaker 3: that I'm gonna have these little setbacks, and like you
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  Speaker 3: said that little dude on the show, to not him
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  Speaker 3: because he's good.
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  Speaker 6: Not him, it's another person of that swing.
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  Speaker 3: But but no, I'm gonna have these times where I
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  Speaker 3: doubt it. I'm gonna have these times where I question
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  Speaker 3: whether this is the time to take that swing. And
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  Speaker 3: there have been times where I've seen it where he
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  Speaker 3: took that swing and it's like okay, And today.
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  Speaker 6: Was a good example of that of like that swing.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, hold up, but let me let me reset, let
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  Speaker 3: me get back to what I worked on, what I
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  Speaker 3: meditated on in the offseason, What what brought me to
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  Speaker 3: this point right now? What got me here? Like you
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  Speaker 3: spoke on the average, I don't think the average whatever
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  Speaker 3: you know. I'm saying the average doesn't matter to him
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  Speaker 3: because I feel like there's more to it than than
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  Speaker 3: the average for him, which we could talk about that later.
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  Speaker 3: But to see him take a swing like that, and
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  Speaker 3: then take a swing like he took when he hit
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  Speaker 3: the home run.
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  Speaker 6: It's like that's growth.
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  Speaker 3: That's growth as a person as a human being, as
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  Speaker 3: a as a player, that that there's more to come
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  Speaker 3: of at bats and swings and just the maturation of
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  Speaker 3: who we're seeing right now. And I don't want to
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  Speaker 3: get so much into the average, because we can definitely
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  Speaker 3: beat on that, but when you see the result in
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  Speaker 3: the outcome that happened today, it's like, no, there's just
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  Speaker 3: this is a different person mentally. I think that he's different.
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  Speaker 3: I think that he's kind of crossed over that like
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  Speaker 3: caring so much that I have to be this, I
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  Speaker 3: have to be that. No, it's about if I can
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  Speaker 3: control my emotions, if I can go up here and
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  Speaker 3: control my emotions and control what I can control, and
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  Speaker 3: not the outcome. Because when we start trying to control
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  Speaker 3: the outcome, we're trying to get hits.
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  Speaker 6: We're trying. You can't. There's no secret formula to getting
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  Speaker 6: a hit.
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  Speaker 3: The success comes at swinging at pitches in your zone
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  Speaker 3: and putting it on the barrel.
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  Speaker 6: That's success.
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  Speaker 3: That's the thing that I think that it looks like
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  Speaker 3: to me that he's understanding is that putting the barrel
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  Speaker 3: on the ball is success. I can't control my numbers by,
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  Speaker 3: you know, by getting hits and doing these things. All
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  Speaker 3: I can control is me taking a good swing and
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  Speaker 3: a controlled swing. Because he's strong enough, he's strong enough
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  Speaker 3: to drive the ball out of the ballpark with a
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  Speaker 3: two strike approach. We saw it today. We saw that
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  Speaker 3: we saw him drive the ball out of the out
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  Speaker 3: of the ballpark. When it was like, this is not
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  Speaker 3: the time to be trying to do that. He was
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  Speaker 3: able to do that. So I think that there's so
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  Speaker 3: much growth with him, and I don't want to look
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  Speaker 3: at necessarily, you know.
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  Speaker 6: The numbers.
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  Speaker 3: I love the home runs though, and I love the
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  Speaker 3: timing of the of the home runs.
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  Speaker 6: I do love that.
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  Speaker 3: Like it's like, I don't want you to try to
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  Speaker 3: hit her on runs, but I love when you hit
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  Speaker 3: him though, like.
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  Speaker 6: Because they you know, it's that's that's you, that's who
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  Speaker 6: he that's who he is.
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  Speaker 3: And I think that if there's not as much pressure
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  Speaker 3: put on him to get hits and do that and
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  Speaker 3: just hey, stay within yourself, stay within yourself and your approach,
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  Speaker 3: and the good things will happen. I think the average
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  Speaker 3: will change, you know, the more experience he gets. I
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  Speaker 3: think that he'll start to realize how to take those
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  Speaker 3: base hit type swings when he's when he's able to work.
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  Speaker 3: Because to me, that home run to the year, it
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  Speaker 3: didn't necessarily look like he was trying to pull that ball.
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  Speaker 3: It almost looked like he was trying to stay up
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  Speaker 3: the middle, right center and he just caught it out
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  Speaker 3: front and drove it. Now, the one before that, I
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  Speaker 3: think it was that I don't know if it was
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  Speaker 3: the one before that, but it was a change up
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  Speaker 3: that I think he swung through. It was like, hey,
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  Speaker 3: that wasn't a bad swing though, Like it wasn't like
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  Speaker 3: you you you pulled off. It almost looked like he
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  Speaker 3: was staying to the big part of the field. Good pitch.
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  Speaker 3: What can I do? I can lock back in on
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  Speaker 3: my approach. I can get back in and control what
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  Speaker 3: I can control my approach. This is what I'm sticking with.
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  Speaker 3: I gotta pitch. I can handle you. Hung It not
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  Speaker 3: my fault. What's my fault? As I stayed with my
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  Speaker 3: approach and I got you. I got you, bro.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, very well said.
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  Speaker 1: And we'll talk about somebody who has definitely had all
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  Speaker 1: the maturation and the journeys of the game and listening
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  Speaker 1: to the angel and the devil in a second.
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  Speaker 6: You know. Anyways, I got off trick.
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  Speaker 4: It's all good.
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: So as we talked about a little bit dietrich ends
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: and I hope I'm saying that correct.
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: Uh, Ditrick Dietrick.
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: Uh five innings, one hit, zero runs, obviously four k's.
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: He had a couple of walks in there. The five
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: pitch mix that you talked about, Cody, Uh, the thing
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: that that I just got to know and you wrote
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: about him in The Athletic subscribers can read that story.
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: How did this happen? How did this happen? Cody?
• 18:06
  Speaker 10: Like?
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: This is a question.
• 18:11
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't know.
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: I mean, I guess. Like we talked about earlier though,
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: the Tigers, not being afraid to be creative, not being
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: afraid to find talent through untraditional avenues. He's a guy
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: who's thirty four pitch twenty fourish innings in his life
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: in the big leagues, spent the last spent two years
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: in Japan, spends a year in Korea. Through a lot
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: of innings in Korea last year, he got decent stuff.
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: He throws strikes. They must have seen something though early
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: that said we can get him even better, because that's
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: the thing. He was a He just seemed like a
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: body when they signed him. Right, you're gonna bring him
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: into camp. He's not gonna make the team. He needs
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: some innings in triple A. Maybe back in the day
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: that's how it would have been. But the Tigers like,
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: how can we get this guy better? They tweaked his
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: change up. He's throwing the change that's so popular right now.
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: It's pretty good. Kind of some deceptive movement. He's always
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: had a good slider, throws ninety four, but he can
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: hit his spots, and it's still kind of hard to explain.
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: I certainly wasn't expecting five scoreless out of dietrich Ens today,
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: but that's what we got.
• 19:19
  Speaker 6: Man.
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: He was really good. He showed a little bit of
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: emotion a couple of times on the mound. You could
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: tell it meant a lot to him, not just this journey.
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: Before he debuted in twenty seventeen with the Twins, he
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: through two innings and then he went minor leagues, minor leagues,
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: Venezuelan Winter Ball, Indie ball gets back in twenty one,
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: has to do it all over again. Like that's incredible.
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: That's some perseverance, that's some belief. So I don't know
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: if I can fully answer the question other than like
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: the change up getting better of how I just know,
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: pretty awesome. Congrats to dietrich Ens on a great day.
• 19:58
  Speaker 6: Hey give me a guy. It has experienced some adversity.
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: And this is what I love about this Tigers team honestly,
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: because it's like, you know, you can look around and see,
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: if you know, are there any legitimate stars. Yeah, there
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: probably are a couple. We could probably you know, name
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: off a couple. I think you know who they are.
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: But I think it's something about this team, like coming
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: to this team and the area of this team and
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: just that belief system, and I think, you know, you're
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: giving me a chance. This type of team is giving
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: me a chance to come in here and pitch. Like
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: there's a lot of emotion. Like you said, it's he
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: kind of had like a little field coat s in
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: him a little bit like I feel like it's a
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: little feel in there somewhere, like I want to talk
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: to him.
• 20:44
  Speaker 11: And be like you got you you you crazy, low
• 20:47
  Speaker 11: key you got a little bit of snapping you somewhere,
• 20:50
  Speaker 11: because that face was red and it was just the
• 20:54
  Speaker 11: it was just you know, you know, his presence in
• 20:57
  Speaker 11: the way that there didn't look like there was any nervousness,
• 21:01
  Speaker 11: and it was like, I I this is my time.
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: I want to be here, and I feel like they
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: keep they have guys like that, like I want you,
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: I want to be here. I want y'all to doubt me.
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: I want this is for anybody this doubt me. We
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: talked about that. You know, they're getting guys that you know,
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: other teams kind of passed on, and it's like, this
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: is their opportunity. The Tigers are giving these guys an
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: opportunity to be like, be who you are.
• 21:29
  Speaker 6: We want you to be who you are, and there's
• 21:32
  Speaker 6: no better way.
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: Uh, you know, as a player, when a team gives
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: you that full trust and like we think you are
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: who we think you are, Like you are who we
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: we think you are, go out there and be that
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: and that's what we look like.
• 21:44
  Speaker 6: To me.
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: Like a guy that was like, I'm gonna show the
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: world right now, you know my journey. I know that
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: we're talking about his journey, but I'm gonna show them
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: the journey and what it looks like when a guy
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: has faced adversity and I'm gonna go out here and
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: pitch my butt off. And it was it was it
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: was awesome to see, Like I love stories like this.
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: It's just it's incredible and it gives so much, you know,
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: energy and just you know, inspiration to guys in his
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: position that you know maybe going through that journey, like hey,
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: this guy didn't give up and look where he's at
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: right now, went up there and dominated really put on
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: a great performance.
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, curious, like what's next. Sounds like he's gonna stick
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: around for a little bit. Rees Olsen may or may
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: not be coming back next week, maybe undetermined if he's
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: going to do one more rehab start, so its possible
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: Ends gets another start. If Olsen gets back, I think
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: they're gonna leave Ends in the pen for a little bit,
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: have him be a lefty guy. See how long he
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: can stick A j. Hinch said he's earned another outing.
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: I don't know what it's gonna be. I just know
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: it's gonna be in the big leagues. Pretty good vote
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: confidence from the manager.
• 22:50
  Speaker 6: You can use them. I think you could use them
• 22:52
  Speaker 6: even in that pin.
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: You can use that that arm out of there, man,
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: I think that you might even see that velocity take
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: a little little kid a little jump to you know,
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: code at that pin.
• 23:01
  Speaker 6: But who knows. You know, they're they're super creative over there.
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: So it'd be fun to see what they can do
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: with them when he gets back.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: Well, you know, Austin, you talked about you know about
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: like you know, give me guys that have face adversity
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: and obviously not going to disagree with you on that,
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: but another way of phrasing it is give me guys who,
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: like I know for a fact they love this game.
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: Like like there's you do not go through what this
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: guy has gone through without just pure one love of
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: the game, a game unlike any other game that is
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: going to like not love you back, ye, like like
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: as baseball is unique that way, we all know this
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: and like there's there's the reason why it's so special
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: to talk about and we wanted to talk about it
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: is because there are a lot of guys who will
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: you know, go to Asia or you know, go to
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: South America and try to get you know, do indie
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: ball are you know whatever and try to do get
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: that one more shot, and the vast majority of them
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: just various circumstances whatever it maybe don't get that other shot.
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: And there I'm sure there were plenty of times that
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: it probably would have made more family financial logistical sense
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: for him to just be like, look, I got to
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: the majors, I accomplished a dream. It's time to move
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: on with the next thing in my life. And and
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: and there would have been nothing wrong with that, but
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: the fact that he that he kept going, uh and
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: God had this moment.
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: And and that's another thing too.
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: I always try to remember, like he could give up
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: twenty runs the next time he goes out there, he
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: still had this moment. This moment still happened for him.
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: And and and it's special no matter what happens from
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: here on, from here on out, for for ends. So
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: uh that that that's that's That's the thing I keep
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: coming back to, is that, like you think, even if
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: it's not baseball, do you think you love this, professor,
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: do you love it?
• 25:01
  Speaker 6: You love it this much?
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: You love it this much? Because I don't know if
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: you do.
• 25:05
  Speaker 6: You probably don't. We'll find out, Yeah, we'll find out.
• 25:10
  Speaker 8: Ye.
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: And I think in a way like that's part of
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: the culture that the Harris and Hinch have cultivated and
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: the players buying into. And again lesser version of that
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: because just he's younger, but the Jamia Jones piece of
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: that continues to be fun as well. We're going to
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: talk about another sort of talking point around the team
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: that emerged before.
• 25:32
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  Speaker 4: Coming back here.
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  Speaker 1: The calendar is not yet July, but the trade speculation
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: season has begun and there have been various reports out
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: there that the Tigers might be eyeballing somebody that they've
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: already eyeballed this calendar year, and that would be one
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: Alex Bregman not gonna do like a whole breakdown of that,
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: but I'm just gonna say the Tigers are fifty one
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: and thirty one, and they have in the American League
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: the fourth best on base percentage.
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: They have scored the most runs, they have.
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: The second best ops, the second best slug They are
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: first in triples, third and doubles, and fifth in home runs.
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: Is Alex Bregman a need, I guess, is a way
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: to introduce this conversation into the podcast.
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: Agreed Austin, No, I don't have that.
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: No listen like I mean, adding adding Bragman, would it be?
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: I feel like it's just because it's like, you know,
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: doing that, would would like solidify like, Okay, we got him,
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: we will for sure get there because we don't, like,
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: we don't truly believe that we we are a good
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: enough team without you know, somebody else like that to
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: be able to come in and like solidify and for
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: sure get us there.
• 28:10
  Speaker 6: And if we did get there with Revent it'd be pregnant.
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: It'd be like, yeah, that that's why we got there,
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: Like we needed that security to get us there, instead
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: of being like this is who we are, Like we
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: did this without without him. He didn't want to come.
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: We had his opportunity to come, and he didn't come.
• 28:30
  Speaker 12: So, I mean, y'all talking about break like we talked
• 28:33
  Speaker 12: like go get your time, go get a time. You know,
• 28:36
  Speaker 12: one billion dollars right now, y'all got it?
• 28:41
  Speaker 6: That walle No. But seriously, like, you know, adding.
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: A player of his caliber at this point, with what
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: they've proven that they can do, I mean, would it
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: changed the dynamic of the team a little bit?
• 28:56
  Speaker 6: Like I mean, I don't think.
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: He's that type of guy to come in and and
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: and you know, like be a clubhouse, you know, clown
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: and things like that.
• 29:04
  Speaker 6: That's not in his characters. I'm not I'm not suggesting
• 29:08
  Speaker 6: that or.
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: Saying that adding him wouldn't improve this team, you know, somewhat.
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: But I think that this team has shown at this
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: point that you know, they are legit and they are
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: capable of handling their business without adding a player of
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: his caliber. Now, again, I'm not saying that adding a
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: player of his caliber wouldn't improve the team. Obviously it would,
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: seeing as what he's doing right now. But are y'all
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: are the Tigers able to get there without him and
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: make that push that I think that we think they
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: can make without without him? I think they are, And
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: I think that there's other things maybe that we can
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: focus on rather than adding a player like that, especially
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: that comes with the price. You know, I'm thinking, you know,
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: I'm not gonna I don't want to say it because
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: I think there's some other things that you can do
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: to improve the team. But I just think they're fine
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: right now. I think they're fine without them. I don't
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: think that that's a like I you know, like I
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: go get Mike Trout.
• 30:19
  Speaker 6: Mike Trout don't want to be there. Go get Trout.
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: You know, I don't want that contract.
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Elements even But.
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: If we're being real, if we're okay, I'll entertain, let's entertain,
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: let's entertain something.
• 30:41
  Speaker 6: So if the Red.
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: Sox are shopping Alex pregnant, would he make the Tigers better?
• 30:46
  Speaker 6: Yeah?
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: I think if the Tigers are serious about winning the
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: World Series, it would be prudent to add a right
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: handed bat. Yeah, but you mentioned the price tag a Jax.
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: It's not gonna come cheap man. I don't know what
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: the Red Sox would want, but I think it'd be
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: a little more than the Tigers are looking to give
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: up at this deadline, given how they've positioned themselves for
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: the future and too. Regardless of record, are the Red
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: Sox actually gonna shot Alex Bregman. Can Craig Breslo afford
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: that from a personal pr standpoint, I kind of don't
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: think so. I think everyone likes to talk about it
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: because it's Bregman, because we've this market has had this
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: weird obsession with him for a long time now. Yeah,
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: I know people are talking about it. That's why we're
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: talking about it. I would be stunned if it is
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: actually a thing that could happen.
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: Well, I went and.
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: I went and went and contacted some of my Red
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: Sox fan friends and they said Durren's more likely to
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: get dealt than And obviously it doesn't apply for the
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: Tigers because the outfield options are a plenty, but the
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: fans themselves are more looking at during the going out
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: the door than breg Where's they could be wrong, but
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: that's that's what they said. So it's fun, it's fun
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: to speculate about. It's fun to talk about. But I
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: think it's also important to frame it in the right context.
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: And the context is this is obviously a top notch
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: performing offense.
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: The numbers are the numbers.
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: The cost element, as Cody laid out, and then as
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: Austin as you said, is that just like you know,
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: kind of the mentality of the team is shaped by
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: how they got here. And how much does that dynamic
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: play into it speculation wise, or if the move were
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: to actually happen, All those things I think are are
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: factors here, and we'll see. Still a lot of time,
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: Still a lot of time. Maybe the Red Sox creator
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: and they think that's basically an expiring deal.
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: We got to get out of here.
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: Or maybe Scott Boris sees an opportunity and says, hey, man,
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: you just dump a lot off your payroll. I got
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: a guy right here that you can do it and
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: bragmancize and extension, who.
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: Knows, who knows?
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: All right, that was a lot of fun. Anything else, boys,
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: before we get out of here?
• 33:12
  Speaker 6: Hey, what about what let's see real quick? Uh?
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: You you know about how uh you know, talking about
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: how how how well this team is doing and and
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: just them getting a lot of attention and and a
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: lot of people, you know, questioning I think whether this
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: is is the truth?
• 33:37
  Speaker 6: And and and granted, like.
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: We've we've we've definitely talked about this before. It's not
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: something new, but I think it's it's always fun to
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: kind of revisit, like because when we talked about it before,
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  Speaker 3: like there was still I think there was still a
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: little question in there, like well are they are they?
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  Speaker 6: Are they that good? You know? And I don't know
• 33:58
  Speaker 6: if if it's you know, as a player, when I.
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: Played, like I don't I didn't care about the the
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: outside influences and the media saying is this team that good?
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: Like I knew how I where my stance was, where
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: we were at in that clubhouse, and I it was
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: it was no doubt.
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  Speaker 6: I was like using.
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  Speaker 3: That that that outside energy is fuel, absolutely using it
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  Speaker 3: and I and I don't have any doubt in my
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: mind that they're not doing the same. It's like the
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: more we talk about it, the more people question it.
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  Speaker 3: I literally I feel like that gives this team fuel.
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: Like you're giving a lot of guys that maybe have
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: been looked over or questioned or even just like can
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: this can this team or player even play in the
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: big leagues? Like you're giving people players human beings like
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: gretty guys like that fuel to me, Like I am
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: going to prove you wrong. The more you keep giving
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  Speaker 3: that that that.
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  Speaker 6: Doubt, like you keep questioning that.
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  Speaker 3: And I think they just have the right group of
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: guys honestly to prove everybody wrong. Like and I think
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: it starts with schools man. I think this dude is
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: just he's just a different beast man. Like even meeting him,
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: the energy that he gave off, Like this dude don't
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: know me at all, and you know I didn't know him,
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: but he was. He was like saying sir and stuff
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: like hey, yo, first of all, stop that like, hold,
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: I might come back.
• 35:29
  Speaker 9: I might be in here with you. Stop talking about sir.
• 35:33
  Speaker 9: I mean I might come here with a jersey on
• 35:35
  Speaker 9: and stop playing with me. But no, since it's like
• 35:40
  Speaker 9: I think.
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: It starts with with with guys like that, like the energy,
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: the just the emotion of just Detroit man, Detroit Baseball's
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: it's just a different town man. And like when that
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: City gets behind him, like, Hey, I just don't. I
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: do not see how this isn't a team and you
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: know we talked about, you know, adding bravery. I don't
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: This team, I think is the is the right group
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  Speaker 3: of guys to like prove that you don't need necessarily
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: all the stars to get to that point in the
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: season to prove to people that we are a legitimate
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: baseball team with guys that are being picked and chosen,
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: like been choosen to be in this position at this time.
• 36:23
  Speaker 6: So, I mean, I.
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: Don't see any reason at this point to doubt anything
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: that we've been seeing from this team. I know that
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: you I mean, we've talked so many times on this
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: podcast about how you know, yeah there are no stars,
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: you know, like a team full of stars, there are
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: you know, I think we can say there's definitely at
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: least two stars on this team are gonna be stars.
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: But I don't see that this team is going in
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: a direction that we should really question that this scene
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: isn't legit, you know what I mean.
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: Well, I bring it back to what I talked about before.
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: McKinstry obviously doubted and obviously doubted Torque, doubted, Torres, doubted
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: to a certain scale. Uh you know, Chase Lee, what
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: his journey was, Jamia Jones, like all these, like all
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: these like you know, doubted guys contributed to eight nothing
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  Speaker 1: to win the contributed twenty games, twenty games above five
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  Speaker 1: hundred baseball team. As we are just over the halfway
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: point this season, all right, A.
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