Latest / Black Box Theory Podcast / BBT #18 | Who Really Controls AI Now? Follow the Money and the Power
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- Malcolm: We're back chat. We back. New new environment, new new situation, new setup, man, all that man. We got a very special episode today. ⁓ you know, my boy is my boy is back in town. So we're doing a we're doing a in person episode. ⁓ Yeah, man. This is what, episode eighteen? Eighteen. Eighteen is a good number, solid number. Back on the East Coast with Yeah. Yeah. A lot going on. A lot going on. Yeah, nah bro. It's actually so much it's so s it's so it's like way different like doing this in person 'cause it's just like it feels like it flow a no a lot more naturally. But ⁓ no, it's it's a lot to talk about today, man. We ⁓ like I said, I'm sure if you have like been following the stuff we've talked about, you know, I'm sure you got a good guess on like what we're gonna touch on today. ⁓ there's a ton of stuff going on. on like I've namely like the the SpaceX IPO somebody touching trade in their status. ⁓ we we we got a lot to touch on today. But yeah we we we're gonna go through it all but yeah like I said once again this is a very special episode. Got my boy in person for the first time. ⁓ yeah like I said we we're gonna we're gonna handle business as always ⁓ and we're gonna walk through a few topics, touch on a points to put y'all today. yeah let's go ahead let's go ahead get to it man. Yeah before you know before we get into it and the disclaimer ⁓ pretty important thing nowadays so We are not professionals. We are not at all. ⁓ giving you financial advice. The views expressed here are strictly our own and do not represent any employers, infidelity, organizations, or any of that nature. ⁓ keep in mind that we're just like you. We don't know everything. We do our research. We look things over, but there's always new things happening. ⁓ And with that said, this is a safe space. Have fun and ⁓ let's learn. Yeah, man. So we're gonna go ahead and jump in, bro. first things first, like I've been talking about this with all my boys. ⁓ I mean, everyone, I mean, even if you like roughly follow the news, you should be aware of SpaceX having the largest pop ⁓ initial public offering IPO in history. ⁓ so just to recap, SpaceX, they went public on June 12th on Nasdaq under the ticker SPCX. They raised $75 billion at a $1.78 trillion valuation, which is the largest, I repeat the largest IPO ever. ⁓ they closed day one, I believe at around like $161. So up 19% from the initial $130. IPO price. ⁓ and Elon Musk, ⁓ at that time on Friday crossed one trillion dollars in net worth, becoming the world's first trillionaire, right? So It's definitely lots of breakdown, l lot to kinda like go through with that, but just to add some more kinda important facts to know. So for this is like more like the nerdy factor with people who like to look over the balance sheets and the numbers and things like that. So there were five hundred there were five hundred and fifty five point five million class A shares sold at one hundred thirty five dollars a share. ⁓ Musk, he retains eighty five percent percent of combined voting power. So retail gets economic exposure, they get the shares, but they do not have a lick of control. So that was never the case. ⁓ SpaceX they disclose 18,712 Bitcoin on his balance sheet, which ranges from like 1.3 to 1.4 billion ⁓ billion in the S S one filing. and then Muskus, his stake in SpaceX alone was worth $860 billion at the IPO price. Tesla pushed him over to $1 trillion. So his stake in SpaceX was almost a trillion dollars in itself. Plus Tesla. I'm not gonna lie. Like, I think I saw a Saturday. Like Elon is richer. He's richer than the next four richest people in the world combined. I think it's like, Jeff Bezos, Sergi Brenn, ⁓ Larry Ellison and one other person. But he he is richer than the next like he number one is richer than two through five on on like the the the richest people in the world is so ⁓ And then this is SpaceX including ⁓ was it Starl Starlink? Is the other one called it? Yeah, so they because he bought his other company with SpaceX. Yeah. ⁓ and also I just have to say, shout out to the people who worked for SpaceX and held that stock long term. I've seen a lot of stories about ⁓ a welder, ⁓ somebody else who left in twenty fifteen is now operating a hotel and is going to use the money from the IPO to help ⁓ pursue his dreams. And I saw ⁓ another woman, I think she was a mar ⁓ mariner ⁓ operator, like recovering ⁓ spaceship parts from the ocean. And shout out to those people. This is what we talk about when we talk about time in the market is better than market timing. For everyone who is trying to get in on the IPO, I mean it's up right now. I think last I checked it was up about $20 or $30, $30 something dollars from the from the start. I think it's a $165. 161 something around there from a 135 opening price. And that's great, but look at every other IPO. The stuff drops down, and the people who've been holding this stock since the 90s or you know 2010s or 2020s, those people, the stock could probably plummet. you know, down to a hundred or ⁓ or eighty and probably still be just fine at best believe they're going to take profit if they've been holding this for twenty plus years, ten plus years. ⁓ so shout out to them. I mean Elon becoming a trillionaire is I mean great. A lot of people think that he's a trillionaire. He he doesn't have a trillion dollars. He can just like he doesn't have access to these are these are a lot of this is trillionaire on paper, but it's still just like the fact that that someone has access to that much that many assets, that much money, it's just kind of bewildering to just imagine that one person kind of has that much like power. It's it's kinda like it's like people who still sit here and like defend these billionaires and now trillionaires saying, ⁓ they'll solve homelessness, they'll they'll solve hung bro, tax these people, bro. Like, like, like please stop bootlicking these corporations and these super ultra wealthy rich people thinking they're just gonna come down and just magically save you one day or just like like close the wealth gap. Like these people have to be taxed. Like it it's so ridiculous the way that they kind of like evade certain things, but but yeah, no. So Like, touching back on this IPO piece, right? And so just another kind of thing I wanted to call out. ⁓ so retail got 30% of the shares. So this is three times the typical five to ten allocation in major IPOs. ⁓ so that's a kind of like that's a that's a big thing, right? And so I know that a lot of people who may not be familiar with the kind of like the the the allure and the the hype behind IPOs. Like I'm sure that seeing this and and not getting in, you probably feel like, ⁓ I missed out. I could've made a quick flip. I could have made a quick buck. You know, got in, got out, ⁓ you know, can kinda like roll ride the way of up. But it's like the thing that I want people to understand is that, yes, the IPO went crazy day one. We we we kne we knew this was gonna happen. Like i SpaceX has been riding on the coattails of like this IPO hype train for the last few months. Like we knew this was coming, we knew this was gonna happen, right? What people don't understand is that there is an IPO lockup period. You cannot just come in, grab IPO and then like try to flip that joint like like it's just gonna like no there's I believe it's a 90 day minimum, like at least three months I think for some executives up to 180 days, but it's a at a minimum of you have to hold that stock for at least 90 days. So yes, day one, the stock is up crazy, right? Unfortunately, you won't know your true holdings, your true positions, your true gain on your equity until three months from now. So it's like let's not be so so so rash here and think that we're we're missing out on something. Because if if we're if we're being real, there's a lot of data out there that shows like the historical returns of IPOs. There are a very few kind of moonshot IPOs like your your your Teslas and the videos that have kind of like held up the ⁓ the IPO kind of like you know food chain, but more times than not, IPOs. fail or or or they like decrease in their price significantly ⁓ over the next few months or so. So that's what my guidance has been, always will be and was in the last episode. Just like, just wait a bit, right? Like, like it's not going nowhere. It's still gonna be there. And if you saw, if you paid attention, like obviously SpaceX being there played a huge part, but it's like the rest, all the other space stocks and ETFs, they crashed. Like when SpaceX IPO'd. So it's like I'm not saying that's like a telltale sign, but it's like there were a lot of signs to me. before the IPO that kind of made me not ⁓ not super enticed to to to like get get in at that one thirty five price. ⁓ I like I said, I think it's gonna trade high. I think it's kind of like going to be propped up for the next, you know, week or two. But I I do think over the course of three months it'll it'll definitely be lower than the Night PO price and when things regulate and and and we have a market pullback. So ⁓ I I hope that people aren't feeling like they they missed out 'cause you I hope you understand that, you know, unless you've been working for SpaceX for years and you've been building up all this equity, those are really the only people that are like benefiting immediately or getting some type of like Like Elon and his inner circle and those those 4,400 employees that may become newly minted millionaires, those are the winners of this, right? Like everyone else is kind of like chasing that and and trying to catch up to what's kind of like, you know, already been established over over over the last few years. So ⁓ that's just I just want everybody to kind keep that in mind. ⁓ and and and be aware of that. But yeah, no, like I said, I think it's a lot of hype behind it. No, and that it's it's a lot. And then and then I'm not gonna lie, the people I saw ⁓ something about this on ⁓ on threads, you know, Instagram just promotes threads things. It was What is it? I I bought Bitcoin at a hundred twenty thousand. They sold it at sixty five thousand and then they're putting it in SpaceX right now. It's like probably the worst. That's probably the worst like chain of financial decisions I've seen in some time. Like yes, like I say, this is like a you know, hopefully a a lesson to people who are like this like I say, if this is your first time hearing about IPO, learning about what IPO is and how it works, please just use this as like a lesson for future guy. I believe OpenAI also just confidentially ⁓ confidentially filed their their ⁓ you know, their SEC filing and whatnot. So we have a lot more coming after this, right? We have Anthropic coming up. We have Databricks coming up. We have OpenAI coming up. So there are going to be a lot more companies that do come out, you know, with this IPO with with just as much hype. They may not have the same valuations as an anthropic, but they're going to have the same hype, the same like, you know, alert and and and kind of excitement around them. So do not get caught up in the train of trying to be the first one in. Like I said, the the the asset is going to be there, right? Like and if you're worried about if your main concern is getting like those quick gains from an IPO to like those those day one. I I don't think that investing IPOs are are for you, right? Like IPOs are people who maybe take a little bit of ri and more times than not. I believe SpaceX was oversubscribed by like three hundred and fifty percent. So only one in three and a half people were even allocated a share. So it's like it's not like you you could have just got in and and and you'd be lucky to get one or two shares. So it's let's not like, you know, act like it was a ⁓ like a like a like a lock, right? That you were going to get those shares. But ⁓ yeah, man, it's I don't know, man. Interesting markets is that's crazy right now. For people get who want ch to chase gains, like the gains we've seen since Trump has taken office for the second time have been ⁓ unprecedented. But I think he is setting a new precedent for better or for worse, ⁓ depending on what they allow to go forward, depending on you know party control, if they want to make rules to say, you know, this party can do this, that party can do that, which sounds crazy, but I would not be surprised. I mean, that stuff happens all the time. But If this continues to move forward with this insider trading can happen at the levels it is happening at, then there's always an opportunity for you. Because if all it takes is Jensen Huang to say this company's gonna be the next trillion dollar company, or Trump to say buy this stock or ⁓ we just ⁓ did this thing with this war, we stopped the war. And I'm sure once the I mean I know we have a topic for that, but ⁓ when the Iran situation kind of changes a little bit, even though I was just listening to ⁓ New York Times podcast and that has ⁓ irreparable effects That are gonna last for generations. I mean, people are literally being starved, ⁓ that that we're having a lot going on from that conflict. I wouldn't be surprised if he pivots to start talking about Ukraine again and and and throwing some resources there just to get use, have a war to to make the markets move. ⁓ and if you know when Trump's done in office, who's to say that this isn't gonna continue? I mean, this stuff has always happened, but at the levels we're seeing it now. I wouldn't be too worried about opportunities in the future. I mean, ⁓ a lot of people are predicting this crash in twenty twenty seven in the stock market. I'm hearing it's gonna be a bloodbath. ⁓ I don't know exactly why, and some of you might think I'm a little you know, unin ill informed for that. But I mean if y'all know, please let us know. I mean let us know. And we yeah, we can we can share the information. ⁓ say, hey, such and such said this, and ⁓ that could be like our discourse because you know, as of right now, we're not doing the live live podcast to interact with you all. We're gonna we're gonna get there one day. We'll yeah we'll we'll get there one day. You know, we we like to have that discourse. ⁓ but for right now, you gotta communicate with us. Speaking of which, ⁓ if you're spamming us about SEO and and you send us four emails respectfully I I appreciate the grind, but please if if we've responded we're not interested or have not responded, that likely means we're not interested. Yeah. But thank you for tuning in. Yeah, no, yeah, no. That's that's a ⁓ that's that's a yeah, that's a good one. I think ⁓ we yeah, like I said, like I said, SpaceX, that's gonna be interesting. I I'm definitely gonna keep monitoring that over the next ⁓ you know, three to six months. But I think the only IPO I personally would be interested in actually getting in, maybe, would probably be anthropic 'cause think out of the these big names, ⁓ These big kind of like heavy hitters that are coming out. Anthropic is the only company I think I'm particularly like I am that I have that high of a conviction on to being like a you know, like I said, I've gone through each of their numbers and it's just like SpaceX and OpenI, they they literally burn cash. I mean SpaceX I think has done a good job of kinda like setting up compute deals with with different companies to kinda like have that recurring income stream, but I think that, you know. That that kinda like like net loss that they just have quarter to quarter is just kind of unavoidable. So I don't know, it's gonna be interesting to see. But I will say, ⁓ like I say, it's just an exciting IPO season. I think that people should just be, you know, as well informed as possible about what's going on, ⁓ why these IPOs are happening and and and kind of like what the effects are of ⁓ or kind of not the effects but I guess like what are the implications of of getting you know an IPO share allocated and what kind of comes with that. So ⁓ like I said it's just due diligence gonna make sure everybody's informed and knows what's going on. Yeah like I said we actually gonna speaking of anthropic we're gonna touch on our our second point. And so I'm not sure if I'm I'm sure a lot of you guys are familiar with Chat GPT, Gemini, Claude. These are tools that we have ⁓ that have gone from just like you know cool chatbots of tools that we people l use every day. ⁓ some some some type of AI every day whether it's co-pilot integrations through my own, you my full-time job or using cloud on the side or Gemini or OpenAI to do some graphic design. Like I I know that I use AI pretty often. I know that. I'm sure that a lot of people have listened to this too as well. ⁓ but no, right? So we want to talk about a new kind of interesting headline. So the government just forced an AI company, Anthropic in this case, to pull its own product and the AI company is now fighting back. So three days, that is how long Anthropic's most powerful public model to date. ⁓ Claude Fable V. You may you may or may not have heard of it. They did a ton of announcements and rollouts for it. ⁓ if you aren't like super like into Claude and use it super often, you may not have seen it. ⁓ if you use it casually, you may not be familiar. But yeah, Claude Fable V was available before the US government ordered it offline. ⁓ on June 13th, Anthropic received a directive at 5 21 p.m. Eastern ⁓ Standard Time from the federal government invoking export control authorities, ordering the company to immediately cut off all foreign nationals from accessing Fable V and it's Restricted sibling, Mythos V, which is like the most groundbreaking cybersecurity model. ⁓ sorry to interrupt. Is isn't that the one that like released itself early? Yeah, it'll some it's it'd be like breaking out the sandbox. It'd be breaking out the legit like that that's the one that if anything that's the one that need keep on the wraps. If Able Five I I didn't get a chance to use it, bro. ⁓ but yeah, like that includes foreign national anthropic employees inside the United States. ⁓ So since Anthropic can't reliably verify user nationality at scale in real time, the only way to comply was to pull both models globally, everywhere. So now everyone no no one can use it, right? So ⁓ the government stated their reasoning behind it was a jailbreak, specifically a claim that someone could jailbreak Fable Fable V by asking it to read a code-based and identifier software vulnerabilities. Anthropic reviewed the technique ⁓ and pushed back hard. They said that the vulnerabilities identify were minor, already discoverable using other ⁓ publicly available models. ⁓ and if the jailbreak produced no unique uplift, meaning that nothing that Fable Five exposed isn't something that, you know, another model couldn't show or that you couldn't already get elsewhere. ⁓ and so like I say a lot of this evidence from the government is is all verbal. ⁓ there have been no written technical details, no disclosure of a harm harmful outcome. ⁓ but anthropic comply anyway, like the awesome company they are, and the public, you know, of course went with this ⁓ objection, right? So ⁓ yeah, I don't know, man. This is It's interesting. I said this isn't the first time that Anthropic has gotten into it with the federal government. I'm sure another you guys remember like that kind of whole situation with the ⁓ contract with the Pentagon and stuff and kinda like open AI coming in and swooping in after this. But if they say like, you know, the Pentagon's kind of priorities don't really align with our values and and things like that. And that's I think where a lot of people became you know, fans of Anthropic and and kinda like the company and the vision ⁓ that they kind of stand for. So I don't know, man. I think ⁓ hmm I mean, I think we get into that point where it's like, I mean, if the government is starting to get scared that these models are too good, ⁓ It's only a matter of time, bro, before they just start restricting access to everything. It's just like I mean, it it just seems like a very like haphazard like like like a very like just kinda like I thought there's not really much substance behind the I guess accusations or the the reasoning behind having the models pulled. ⁓ saying like, ⁓ it can identify vulnerabilities. I mean I mean they're gonna keep getting better, bro. Like I I don't think that this is like news to anyone. Like I mean if anyone thought it was a joke that these models are gonna continuously improve and that ⁓ like it was all for for for show, I mean you're seeing it now. So I don't know, man. This is ⁓ Miss real time I I I think when it when it comes to the AI story, ⁓ stuff I think the more that the market figures itself out because now we're nearing like token based billing and ⁓ my god yeah that's that's been a thing for a lot of people so expensive ⁓ but as we lay a groundwork foundation for everything I think That structure will allow the government to then build their own structure. Because right now up to you know just a few months ago, AI race has been just a cowboy wild west shootout. Yeah. Like everybody's just throwing everything, moving faster than the government can comprehend. And I mean, all of the brightest minds are going to these companies. The government's not paying people five hundred K plus million dollar in stock and you know, all this other stuff. Like bro the the people are going there. So the government has to catch up. And I think that as the a the industry Settles into a norm of this is how this works, this is how we build, this is how we release, blah, blah, blah, then the government cannot regulate it. I mean, it with the internet, the good, there's no internet regulations on the government to this day. No one knows who actually operates the government. There's regulations in terms of what's legal and illegal by, you know, state, nation, you know, whatever the case, but there's not a ⁓ one power, an all-seeing eye over it that controls the internet in AI, I think they're trying to do something different there where the companies are a form of government. contractor in a sense while they s they kind of work for the government and for the people is kind of the hybrid it seems like they want. ⁓ and then also with China, I think I saw an article recently where the Chinese companies and government I guess does well is because the companies and the government work together on a lot of stuff. Like they're pretty hand to hand. Like the government's very involved in what's going on because you there's a lot of rules in China regarding, you know, what you can use, what it's connected to, how things work. And I think we're approaching that. I mean I I personally It it's unfortunate because I wouldn't mind some regulation on AI, ⁓ to control like the data center parts and all that stuff and like how where we do where how we do these things with like keeping things affordable for people and not impacting lives and like in a negative way. But unfortunately, I don't think the government regulation would go in a direction that favors the people. I think it would go in a direction that favors Yeah, the themselves, right? And I think I mean I think you did say a good point. I think like I do agree that a lot of that regulation I think should be kind of focused on those data center emissions and and kind of like, you know, how much water's being used and how the electricity bills of of local communities and residents are being affected. I think that's where like a lot of the kind of like like, you know, kind focus should be. ⁓ however I think I think like a lot of the the I don't know man, I don't want to become a com like turn into a conspiracy there or something like that, but I think like I don't know if they scared that it might figure out some of their government secrets or some of their internal stuff, but it just seems like I feel like it's a very ⁓ I just think like the timing of it, like the the it it's just very interesting to me how it's like, okay, now all of a sudden like you knew that these models were like it was like if if it was a point where the Pentagon wanted to con like contract one these guys and and and and literally like use their models in house, it's like why are you worried now that these models the same models that you wanted to kinda like have for higher are are actually good enough to to to find vulnerabilities and code bases and and and and software defects and things like that. I like that's what they're built for. So it's like the timing of it and then the fact that they have no real like evidence behind it being a a jailbreak or like a security concern, I don't know man, it's definitely ⁓ Like you raise the eyebrow because it's like, okay, like what's the actual goal here, right? Is it is it the safety of of of ⁓ you know, American, you know, people that that interact with AI or is it we wanna slow anthropics growth or is like like what like what's like the I feel like, you know, what they're saying isn't the actual ⁓ you know, reasoning, the the underlying reason behind like what why it's actually going on. So, ⁓ Yeah, no, it'll be interesting. And I I really do hope Anthropic comes out like the winner, I guess, in this case. ⁓ 'cause I mean like they're a great company. I think that they they like have displayed that once they kind of like stood their ground when it came to ⁓ getting that contract from the government. And it's like, you know, they are I think they're a company that is like very deeply focused on on on morals and and ethical AI and and having the right principles in place, ⁓ to build a technology that that is like, you know, one of the most powerful that a lot of us have harnessed in our lifetime. So, ⁓ Yeah, like I said, like same as the SpaceX thing. I know it'll be interesting to kinda like see it continue to develop, but ⁓ you know, I I really do hope they kinda like I said, come back come back out on the winner's side though for sure. I mean, but I ch I challenge this. Like, why does the government do anything? It's all control. It's all everyone's trying to be in control. It's people comparing it to the the space race. I mean you can also compare it to the food. Why do we not have a cure for cancer? Why do we not have ⁓ affordable health care? Why do we not have salaries that people or wages that people can get to to live affordably. Or you know, it people are asking for much, why are they changing the food you can get on food stamps or EVT to where you can only get healthy stuff, but they don't have any healthy food options in the communities that need this stuff. And it's all corner stores selling processed bag food. It's a form of ⁓ cleansing of Not not just racial cleansing, ⁓ but economical cleansing, ⁓ population cleansing. It's it's a form of control. It's a c it's a form of limitation, it's a form of we say what happens and you just do, which you know, clearly people have free will. They don't have to, people can push back. I mean, we're seeing New York is gathering and rallying like I've never seen before for for basketball, for for some dudes shooting hoops. Mind you, top-tier hoops. But like we we have so much going on between AI, politics, ⁓ international affairs, gas prices, food, ⁓ history, race. There's so much going on, but yet the energy is in the wrong place. And I mean, look, I'm sitting here talking to a camera, right? I'm not I'm not out on the street making differences, you know. But it's the same reason we don't have this, we don't have a lot of things. We don't have superheroes, we don't have ⁓ Positive role models, like they control the stuff. Everyone who tried to make a difference, who tried to really do something, look at what happened to them. Look look at where they are now. You gotta you gotta dig about six feet to find them. But all this the stuff that survives, the stuff that keeps the systems going, the companies that survive the dot-com bubble, the companies that are surviving this AI thing, the ones who don't get bought out, look at where they are. All the people who do things. positively or trying to actually help, they fade away. I mean, this is controversial for some. Some people think Michael Jackson was a horrible guy and that he was, you know, doing what they accused him of, but there's a there's a reason that he's not here now. You know, it's a reason that he was over prescribed medication. ⁓ I mean, I'm not to get into all that. I personally don't think he was doing what people said he was. I think he was on the the the right side of things. ⁓ but there's a lot of people online that are also racist saying that he was a you know a PDF file and all these other things and that he was doing things with kids and blah, blah, blah. Not getting into that right now. But there's a reason that these people aren't around. And that all we have is villains and the people that who are who have been around super long, they're popping up in these files. It's not even that you live long enough to see yourself become a villain. You live long enough to show what you really were the entire time. That's just all all that's happening. Yeah. ⁓ yeah, it's ⁓ I don't know, man. I I just I never take like these ⁓ kind of like government rulings or kind of like quest, like a face value. I think there's always a deeper layer, just like some more ⁓ you know, kinda like that that that comes along with it. But yeah, no, I agree. I mean I think people do kind of gravitate to things like the the Knicks finals to like distract themselves from the kind of like like how things are right now. think that you know things like sport and entertainment are people's distraction from like the day to day kind of like chaos that kind of ensues us ⁓ like across the things you mentioned when it comes to economics, finances, politics, like all those things. Like some people need an escape and and for a city like New York, like I feel like the Knicks being back in the championship for what first time in twenty some years. So it's like this is their escape. This is their like you feel me, like revitalization. Like like this is them like, you know, getting back. So I get it at the same time. it's the Roman circus, man. Yeah, no it's it's it's just I always say every episode, man, it's crazy times we living in, bro. So ⁓ Let's think about the last time the Knicks were in the champions or championship game. It was in what, ninety nine? I think so, yeah. And and think about everything that happened between ninety nine and like two thousand five. I'm not saying that the obviously I'm not saying that the Knicks are the reason. I'm not trying to draw no conspiracy there. But I'm just saying ninety nine is a critical time frame. A lot of things happen, a lot of decisions that didn't go in the way that some powerful leaders wanted. And then two years later, all of a sudden, the world changes forever. I out the blue, you know, I'm not saying that that is the reason why. I'm just saying it's interesting. New York, the Knicks, the Mecca, the center of basketball, the center of, you know, the the most powerful city in America really. I mean you could say D C but the New York mayor is considered like the most powerful or the most important mayor in America for a reason. I mean I I mean New York is like the the I mean it really kinda like the finance capital, like the world. I mean they they yeah, it's probably New York, bro. ⁓ like got it's really New York, LA, Chicago, D C those kind of force you know, those couple of cities kinda like really control the traffic when it comes to stuff. I ain't gonna lie. But ⁓ but nah, yeah, man, that's ⁓ it's a whole lot going on, bro. and then touching my next thing of course, like I feel like it's a repeating topic, but I mean it's only that way 'cause you know, our our favorite guy in charge just keep on telling us it's about to end, telling us about to wrap up, telling us we're nearing a deal, and then it just keep on going and going and going and people are paying at the pump. You know, and you know, it just it's been that kind of recurring thing, like not being kinda like holding up that end of the promise or whatever. But I mean if you still falling for it, I mean yeah, it's just you bro. Like people saying that the war not even the reason for the gas prices. I don't I don't know what the reason is. Does need to be fixed and people keep bringing up how Biden's was worse and this? Yeah, I'm like, why do we keep deflecting the Biden, bro? It is twenty twenty six, bro. Like like we can't keep using that as like bro, we are here now. Like let's worry about what what's going on now, right? This is longer than Biden's, I think. I don't remember the exactly how long that Biden I know it was for the summer at least. That summer was crazy. But this has been going on for what, like four months, five months now? Yeah, starting like end end of February, yeah. ⁓ Yeah, no, i i i i it it's been bad, man. So like I say, just a recap again, like I say, strikes began February twenty eighth, twenty twenty six. A ceasefire broke April seventh with Pakistan as a a mediator. ⁓ a draft deal was agreed on on yesterday, June twelfth, covers end of ⁓ Hostilities, sanctions relief, ⁓ straight up for news, ⁓ maritime access. ⁓ Iran also reported reportedly huge air quotations, committed to never developing nuclear weapons. I don't know if I believe that at all. I don't I don't think that they've just kind of been standing on what they've been saying for all these last four months and then all of a sudden just cave in like, hey, you know what, you guys are right, we're never gonna do it. ⁓ but like I said, they've commit they've reportedly committed to never d developing nuclear weapons indefinitely. ⁓ indefinitely, like I said, versus the the 10 to 20 year windows and past deals. ⁓ Iran's officials also called ⁓ some reports preliminary, nuclear details flag for separate follow-on talks. Trump talked about signing within days, possibly in Europe, though he's made similar statements before without the deal actually closing. And once again, the straight up form news carries roughly 20% of global oil supply. ⁓ and so sustained conflict kept energy prices elevated, which is what we are seeing at ⁓ you know, a at our at our gas pump. So I really hope for the sake of like people's pockets, I mean, this is the last time he's like leading people on 'cause it's just been like these repeat and like the it's just been like this this cycle of like, Hey, we're doing this, hey, we're about to end it. ⁓ we'll b we'll take them off the map, we'll blow them off the map. No, we're about to agree a peace deal. No, we'll blow them off the map. We don't even need the straighter who moves. No, we're fine. It's just like people are getting tired of it, bro. It's like even people he people who are like the most diehard MAGA, like they they'll they'll they'll still wear their their forty five shirt in in public. Like They they even getting tired of this. And it's like if you know your people is getting tired of this, bro, it's like, come on, bro. Like, what do you like we're in a war that we should have never been in in the first place, bro? And it's just like Starting starting the wars, starting the conflict. I mean There there's a whole lot going on here and I I recently learned not just with this stuff. I mean obviously I knew this, but s like sometimes things hit a little closer to home. You realize stuff is so much bigger and like more is going on than any of us know. Like there's so much behind the scenes. Like we can sit here and talk about all these things. People who are on the ground can talk about things. None of us know what's going on. None of us know the real reason behind this. It's not even a conspiracy theory. It's just like when people when people say there's more to it, people think it's like crazy conspiracy theory like ⁓ like the the sacrificing blah blah blah rituals blah i mean maybe but like in the realms of reality there's a lot going on here where it's like the conversations and the topics are so dangerous that if you're even remotely probably near the correct stuff, it's like super risky. So I guess just from the outside looking in and someone who's experiencing everything on the back end and the prices, one I want I want I just want peace for people. I'm I'm sick of seeing these strikes and things going on. And I understand a lot of people believe that the only way for there to be peace is to erase the others from existence. ⁓ Unfortunately that and I mean that's that's not even propaganda. That's that's literally what people are saying. Like that like it involved like people making the decisions they are trying to erase a a population from existence because that's the only way that there's gonna be peace in the world in their mind. And I feel like that's just not granted it's bigger than me, it's bigger than anything I could ever do, but it's like what are we doing. If you really are, if you believe that you're really there to to save the world, you're there to protect the world, whether you're the US who is involved in all this foreign policy because you want to keep world peace and protect the world, or whether you're ⁓ another nation or or or whatever the the case is, you're protecting your people, you're protecting global interests, there there has to be a point where it's like enough is enough. I I I think the problem is people don't just want to put the guns down, put the bombs down, and like talk it out. Like obviously talking out, I know it's not that simple. It's bigger than me, right? But it's like everyone's suffering. There's impacts happening around the world. I talk to people in other countries. They hate coming to America. They don't want to come here. And you can say, ⁓ well, they shouldn't come here. Well, how do you think stuff gets done here? Everything here is imported. Everything here is outside labor. If America was cut off from the rest of the world today, you would be dead by next week because you wouldn't have anything. The world is too connected. I think people need to get out of this mindset of, ⁓ we just just do us. We're all one people. You might believe different things, eat different things, but it's I'd say I'll just just say I I feel for everybody, ⁓ impacted on all sides, and there there needs to be accountability and I think people should start holding their governments and leaders accountable worldwide because it seems like on a ground level, ⁓ Most people are suffering. There are some delusional people out there though that that say everyone else deserves to die. I think that's ridiculous. You as a human, if you you believe in anything, you should never say entire people deserve to die. That's that's insane. Like Trump talking about wiped them off the face of the earth. That's insane. Yeah, I don't know why people are so comfortable just saying like or just even implying that like it's okay to genocide? Yeah, like like yeah, like genocide is not like a I guess become normalized, bro. Just like like, yeah, we'll wipe them off the face of the earth. Like Bro, you are a president telling like, come on, bro. That's a serious threat. I mean, look, that's that's heavily relates to the next topic. ⁓ you know, ⁓ how far you go with people threatening you, how how far is it gonna go before you do something about it? Yeah, ⁓ and and that's the point. And so I'm sure a lot of y'all have followed this man, the Carmelo Anthony case. Yeah, bruh, this is like a this is a big thing, man. So April second, twenty twenty-five, Carmelo Anthony, at the time, seventeen years old, a student at Centennial High School in Frisco, Texas, ⁓ fatally stabbed a seventeen-year-old Austin Metcalf during a high school track meet. ⁓ the confrontation started over Anthony's refusal to leave a tent that belonged to Metcalf's team on a rainy day. Metcalf pushed Anthony, Anthony pulled a knife and stabbed him in the chest. ⁓ he didn't testify at trial, his defense argued self-defense. The prosecution's argument was direct. You don't get to meet a sub with a stab. Especially if he provoked this job. ⁓ the jury convicted Anthony of murder on June ninth, twenty twenty six and sentenced him to thirty five years. he'll he'll he will ⁓ be eligible for parole after serving half. and only his mother took a stand during the sentencing, asking his jurors for mercy. ⁓ Only his mother. She was the only one that stood up for him. I don't know, that's a little nuts, bro. But it's also interesting because they like I said, a lot of the stuff that you're I'm seeing you're you're sure I'm sure you're seeing on social media has been about ⁓ like the GoFund, the Gibson GOF fundraiser for his family. They raised over six hundred thirty thousand dollars. ⁓ and the page noted that the funds weren't solely for legal defense. ⁓ so of course social media ran wild with a lot of the claims saying that the family bought a house and a new car with the money. ⁓ a claim that that, you know, the family rated false, but they also stated that the pup they also stated publicly that the funds went to legal fees and relocating after they were doxed and received death threats. ⁓ and the fundraiser was pulled after the conviction. ⁓ the family received death threats that had nothing to do. Where's this energy with the actual mass killers and and and Like obviously s a loss of life is bad in every situation. And I'm not justifying a lot of people saying, ⁓ the black community is always saying free the killer and they promote murder. That's not the case. I'm not s no one's saying that what he did is right. No one's saying that that he was correct in having a knife and stabbing the guy and killing him. Unfortunately, like no one's saying that's right. It's just when you go through legal processes. Stuff needs to be done correctly. That that's why you have proper legal trials, fair trials, so that when someone does get put away, it's perfectly legal and everyone is happy about it. I mean, sure, there's probably just some hateful people out there who want to see this kid rot. But if you're the the victim, ⁓ the victim's family, would you rather see him see the the per you know the killer go to prison and stay in prison? Or would you rather see a case where I'm not saying this will have for here, but I'm sure it happens a lot where someone someone is convicted and then they end up getting out and and you know getting ⁓ the case wiped away because ⁓ they handled the stuff wrong illegally. I mean what was it the jury was all white a jury of peers. ⁓ it last I checked, America's not all white. I mean there might be high, high percentage ⁓ white town towns, but I mean it's not I understand it's not a federal trial, but like I said, I I'm not we're not lawyers, but it's just a lot of people comparing stuff and and even I saw people comparing this to Kyle Rittenhouse case, which I mean Absolutely not. He shouldn't be free. I don't care if p if he was hit first, attacked first. I mean, by that logic, he should be serving two multiple life sentences if if this guy got thirty five years. By that logic. People also bringing up Trayvon Martin, saying that ⁓ he beat George Zimmerman within an inch of his life and George Zimmerman killed him in self defence. ⁓ ⁓ I I don't I think I even saw a picture of Tamir Rice somehow. I I don't know how that would even be remotely related to this. ⁓ but a lot a lot of the conversation around this is just racism, if we're being honest. It's not even people caring about caring about what's right and what's wrong. It's just racism. Yeah, and I think this is one of those classic cases that it got turned from like being ⁓ murder versus self-defense trial to like a racial thing. And I feel like that's always how it kind of ends up. like it never stays on topic. It never is like solely about the crime or the accusation. It becomes like a a racial thing. It's like looking at it like if you were only to funnel all your information from social media, all you would see is just like these two very distinct like stances, right? Like you have this this young black guy, small, skinny, got, you know, asked him like, Hey, I'm staying under this tent, he pushes him, he stabs him, you get this almost like more than half a million dollars raised for yourself. Just got people saying it's not all for your legal fees, and then you got the white guy, it's like, okay, you know, you pushed him, you didn't deserve to get stabbed. And it's just like, you know, I I got like you said before, like a loss of life is of course, never to be celebrated or like, you know, ridiculed or anything like that, but it's just like, you know, I'm not trying defend particular size or anything like here, but it's just like I don't I don't understand why people do things. It's like I believe our Ray correctly, he told him, like, just don't touch me. Like, don't touch me. Don't put your hands on me. You put your hands on them. And then it's just like I'm just under I just don't understand why people would like have these reactions. If people tell you not to do something, if I see somebody, if if somebody tell me, you know, don't don't put your hands on me, you know, I'm not in the mood for it. I mean, in my right mind, I'm I'm not gonna put my hands on the dude. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna do it. Like it's just like and it's you you provoke people and then you get surprised and they actually retaliate and especially when you're threatening them, right? Like yeah, it may just be a push to some people, but to other people, a push is like a ⁓ you know, like that's like a that's like a fighting motion. That's like a that's like a You know, that's like a soul. That's like yeah, that's ⁓ it's like you think like everybody isn't like a b a a grown man who can just take a push and maybe not move a lot, but it's like, you know, everybody doesn't take a push the same way, bro. So it's just like I I'm really am sad to see the outcome of it. I mean, I I don't think a seventeen year old, you know, like I said, it's a loss of life, but I don't think that seventeen year old kid served a thirty five year sentence, tried ⁓ you know, as an adult under Texas law. Also. ⁓ good. No, I mean I said I'm I'm just tired of it becoming like a a race thing, man. They made it about race first. No, I'm not gonna say first. A lot of people did, but like the guy's dad, I believe it was his father. ⁓ during the trial, he c he wasn't allowed to go to social media. Like no one was allowed to go on social media and share information. Soon as the trial ended, he made a video that went up. He started calling them watermelon felons and and all that like you made it about race, bro. Like it one guy killed your son, one individual, and you start talking about watermelon felons and and all this racist. Like, that's like it i if someone looks at any killer from any race or any person committing a crime and just throws it on the whole community. I mean, it it's ridiculous. And also in Texas, I was just looking at, you know, because Texas is staying your ground. And stay your ground, if people have seen in Florida and places that are standing ground, people who literally murder someone and not go to prison for it. Because it's like stand your ground. But the the stipulations are that so this is, mind you, this is ⁓ Gemini AI overview. So take this with a grain of salt. ⁓ but Under Texas Penal Code 9.31, you have no legal duty to retreat from a threat before using force, provided you meet three conditions, which being you have a legal right to be at the location, yes, you are not engaged in criminal activity, also correct, and you did not provoke the person. That's what they're getting him on. The provoke. They're saying he provoked. Is it a provocation by being under the tent? I'm not the judge. I'm not the jury. I don't know. Playing sports. You you mix up with a lot of teams. You mix with a lot of other teams and people. If that provokes you, I mean I guess what's the definition of being provoked then? Exactly. And that's that's, you know, I think it becomes a blur line, but I mean, I say I gotta say, man. mean, I feel sorry for that kid in this family. I feel sorry for both families, of course, like you know the family that lost their son. You know, you can't put a you can't tell somebody how to feel after they lose somebody and I think that, you know, they should be still have like treated with a level regardless of race, I think that they should still be treated with like a level of like respect and and sympathy, ⁓ and empathy as well as like as human beings. ⁓ But you know, I at and at the same time, like I also just you know, I'm always gonna feel how I feel about seeing like a young kid like that essentially about the rest of his life kinda s you know, determined like at a at a trial like that. It's just like I I like I said before, like, I really hate that things like this become a black and white thing and not a what was the crime thing. And I mean, I think it's just gonna be and it's it's s so sad to say it's just gonna be another one of those cases that just goes down history as like another kinda like piece of history, like piece piece of black history is like the, you know, just like something to learn from, right? It's just like it's sad to say that's he's his kind of like legacy's gonna be reduced to that. But ⁓ I don't know, man. It's really just unfortunate. And like I said, like we we we're not gonna go into detail about it, but like I said it's another similar kind of situation with the kid in South Carolina who was in the gas station. ⁓ Believe like that the owner of like Asian and they chased him out thinking he stole something he didn't, ran out the store, gunned him down, got out scot-free, you know, no charges, anything like that. So it's just like seeing this over and over again, bro, it's like a pattern. It's just like people who have like like like like you know, wool over their eyes, this think that it's just like, ⁓ well, you know, it's just a fair due process. And it's just like you have these juries of all, you know. white folks trying to, you know, understand like like what it feels to be in those shoes and and to be prejudiced and and and profile like that. And it's just like I don't know, bro. It's ⁓ it's unfortunate man. ⁓ I I hate seeing stories like this 'cause it's just like, you know, w when is history gonna stop repeating itself? ⁓ but yeah. Yeah. You know, ⁓ yeah. ⁓ tired of always having to take the high road. But somebody gotta be good because you know, we all get judged at the end of the day. Somebody gotta do the right thing. And exactly. Like Michael said, you know, prayers of both families. ⁓ no one should have died. This shouldn't even be a conversation. We shouldn't even be having this conversation right now. That incident should have been handled in court. peacefully, legally, correctly. We shouldn't even be talking about this other than, ⁓ we heard about, you know, a fatal stabbing. It's unfortunate trial going on. It was trial super quick too. ⁓ but things happen. I mean people ⁓ people get killed every day, people die every day, and we don't always hear about it, but we hear about this, and it's unfortunate. So prayer prayers ⁓ to everyone involved and and please all you hateful ⁓ there's not even point in addressing you all out there, ⁓ for the people who don't go around and and ruin people's lives, ⁓ especially families of people who are victims and family who are people ⁓ being incarcerated. Props to you for just being a good enough human being to not go out your way to ruin somebody else's life. But ⁓ speaking of ruined lives, I mean, could talk about that Knicks fan base. ⁓ but whatever. We we I I ain't gonna lie, bro. You know, respect to the Knicks, they definitely like the city deserved this, bro. But we gotta stop like letting these people literally abuse and beat people up because, ⁓ it's New York, it's New York, this is how New York is. Like, nah, bro. Like, like you can't, bro, any other city, bro. felonies everywhere bro but it's like we we can't just keep letting we can't just keep saying it's New York like bro it's no reason a dude shouldn't be able to wear another team's I get it bro it's a sports city you know I'm saying Philly's kind of like too but now don't think to this extent but it's like bro like you're chasing people down beating the dog crap out of them cause they wearing a a Victor Wimbyama jersey. LeBron, like come on gang. Like it's like they be beating up each other. They be it's be Knicks fan beating on the other Knicks fan. I'm like bro what y'all doing bro and it's like like we gotta chill like we gotta like I get it bro New York is a hype city bro they they live, Oli live like it's they city you feel me, Knicks on top like it's a rare time like it like I said the whole energy of the city good. Like everything's on the up. But it's like bro, that that's not said. Like they're throwing eggs when we like all right some people gonna be like bro you soft bro back of bruh you you feel me but like it competition bro but it's like bro like Like we beat, you gotta beat people up because they fan of another team, bro. It's just like, come on, yo. Like, like, this is exactly why like NYPD gotta be overly deep out there, cause it's like, bro, like, just be a fan, bro. Like, you out here beating people up, like you finna be on a team, like you, like you getting recruited on the team the next day, bro. Like, none of these OG don't know you, Jalen Brunson don't know you, bro. Like, come on, gang. Like, and I just hate the cop-out excuse, like, ⁓ it's New York, bro. It's New York. No. You can't say that. Like that's why they call it Zoo York. Like, bro, like are you telling me? Y'all telling me if this was to happen, if San Antonio in San Antonio, Texas, after game tonight, y'all telling me if the Knicks was the win, and San Antonio fans just came out just started beating people, pistol whipping Knicks fans, this is gonna be okay because of sports. Like, come on, yo, like let's have like let's let's let's still have some like let's still have some integrity and some some demure as fans, bro. Like it's it's kind of crazy, bruh. But nah, I ain't gonna lie, like as a as someone who is like a you know, a Spurs supporter, like I say, I love ca watching Castle, love watching Harper, love watching Wimby, bro. Like those my favorite guys in the league right now. ⁓ that that last game was heartbreaking, bro. Like I ain't gonna lie, like watching that talk. It's crazy. I c I I was I ain't gonna lie, I was looking talking about mess in the chat. We was up by like 30 at this point. I'm talking crazy. I'm like yeah yeah yeah yeah and I keep seeing us gunning threes gunning threes gunning threes I'm like well like what are we doing? And they they they look like I I ain't gonna lie like Brunson he he turned his magnet ball on in the fourth quarter so you already know how he'd get And they just start chipping away, chipping away. And I'm not gonna lie, bro. The the the wimby free throws was one thing. But De'Aaron Fox, I I said I said some words I didn't even know I could say when I saw him do that play, man. That that was one of the like most bonehead decisions I've ever seen in my life, bro. It's just like I started seeing people going off of him, bro. Like talking about like like I'm not gonna lie, why are we surprised? Like, like his cut, bro, like he has no fade. Like he has no fade. Like And like hit like bro, I ain't gonna lie, bro, like he just has a nut cut, bro. Like he has a nut nutty cut. He doesn't have a brain. He just is a bad basketball player and he shouldn't be like allowed to and it it's crazy because like hit actually no Mitch Johnson as well, the coach. ⁓ my god. He you know he he said I think at the press conference yesterday, he's like, Yeah, you know what? I'm not on social media. ⁓ you know, De'Aaron Fox will have his his his his his hands on the ball at the end of the game tomorrow as well. I was like, bro, you just wanna lose. You genuinely want to lose, bro, because it's just like there's no way that that that that's that I'm not gonna lie, the coach, all he does, bro, he doesn't even coach. He just mugs, like he just looks at the camera. Like he just makes faces and looks at the camera and be is light skinned, but he doesn't do any like he does not do anything. He's no no notes on his paper. He always holding a clipboard, he don't be coaching, bro. He never calls a timeout, never restructures, never strategize. I'm like, bro, why are we stuck in threes? We're in the bonus for the last seven minutes of the quarter. We're w we're letting Wimby take Katie Hesi pull-ups from 30 feet. Like, bro, what are we doing, bro? I've seen that skit. Yes. Philip. ⁓ what what are they called again? RDC. RDC, yeah, bro. Like, yeah. Like, bro, like, it just doesn't make any sense, bro. Fox has to go. I I gonna lie, like, like, like I saw I seen somebody like people started to go fund me to buy out Fox's contract. I am literally about to donate to that joint, bro. Cause it's like it's no way you're supposed to be the vet on this team. Like I'm like, bro, as a c I get it, you you getting paid $200 million, Harper has to start. Harper does not make that decision. Harper does not go up for that layup on OG six nine OG. You you're not swiping no more, bro. You can't get bro, you're not that fast no more, bro. Maybe if this was like 2016, yeah, you you you you could zoom down the court. Zoom, you know what I'm saying? Bro, you're chopped like you you're you're you're you're you're washed now, bro. It's GGs, bro. And I I just I can't watch them play, bro. This is all basketball commentary. This is basketball ⁓ on a For those who say this is a f ⁓ finance podcast, it is. We talk about a lot. We also talk about sports. Also, this is purely basketball, not him as a person. ⁓ yeah, nah. You know, so I'm sorry he's an excellent family man, but on that court he stinks. On that court, he stinks. And he's a bad player and he should not be touching that court over over D Hart. I will send my kid to a ⁓ De'Aaron Fox basketball camp. Bro, if you send your kid to a De'Aaron Fox basketball camp, bro, they are going to want to choose a different career, bro. Like some people just should not be allowed to have camps, bro. Like some people should not be allowed to have camps, bro. Like it's just some people why do you have a camp? Like like why? Right? Like who told you to have a camp? I mean Look, he could be an NBA champion. I'm not gonna lie, I I was I was recently It's like Mac McClung having a camp. What what do you what do you think what do you think you're doing? You learn how to dunk. No. Mac McClung is is he not a bad hooper. He just he's undersized and he's not I don't think he has the skill. You you know the Sixers cut Julian Champagne for Mac McClung? For yes. So the one that's on the the champ yes on in the finals. So I'm not Mac McClung is nice, but he is a he is a he's a circus point. Like he gets called up when it's time for dunks, bro. But that but see that that's the that's the league, the team problem. I think McClung as a player. No, I don't know why he fry in the G League. I he won G League ⁓ and B. He do fry in the G League, but I ain't gonna lie, bro. He don't be I mean Caruso is in the same route. Granted, Caruso isn't getting abused like this, but Caruso was in the G League for a while. But I mean Caruso is better than me. How say Crusoe has proven like Crusoe's like a championship piece, I don't know. multiple teams like he's a he's solidified himself as like a you know like a a really really good player like you know so you know I say I have to say bro SpaceX IPO crazy hype waste of time ⁓ Claude getting spelt from the government Iran war still going on, gas prices still crazy. We got, you know, history repeating itself with these crazy cases. De'Aaron Fox is a nut cut, and that was all for for Black Box Theory episode eighteen, man. ⁓ what else we forgetting? I think that's that's it. Well last piece, ⁓ N Spurs and seven or Nick Nick's and five. I'm not gonna lie, bro. I'm off I'm off this basketball stuff. Basketball won't matter on judgment day, bro. Like I'm ⁓ we we on Love Island now, bro, so we're not worried about it. Love Island? Yeah, I gonna lie. I I had to switch a switch routes, bro. You start watching Love Island? I'm not watching DR Fox, bro. I watch anything, but I can't keep watching it. Regular show. That's not ⁓ I'm not gonna lie. Metro inspiration. I'm not gonna lie. You may think yeah, you may have your reservation, but I'm not gonna lie. Okay. I'm not judging you for watching it. No, but I feel like you are though. No no no no. I'm not judging for why I've seen a little bit myself. I myself have never picked up the remote control and this is my first time watching though. Like like like like this is my first time watching it like in depth by myself. Like Okay, well we're we're getting we're look, we're we're this is this is completely outside of BVT, black box theory. And ⁓ okay. Am in my fan of violent, I think they're doing great from a financial standpoint. I think like they're growing and all that. I personally think it's soft core ⁓ corn. Okay, I I I will say it i i it it does I can say I'm not really a f I'm not r like I say, I've never watched a show like this my life. I've never seen this much like like like kissing and romance. I'm not gonna lie. I had my reservation about it when I first started. I like, all right, why am I doing this? When you watch it, bro, and you get I'm not gonna lie though, like there there are certain shows you think are just crazy until you watch it, like like ⁓ Like in college, I was watching The Real Housewives. Like, I'm not gonna lie, like it seems crazy. Who's watching The Real Housewives? You? Yeah. My freshman year, like I was watching Real Housewives. ⁓ like is it? Real Housewives or what? Like it's in the different cities. It was like the original one. Like ⁓ this ⁓ like the the first one? Yeah. ⁓ I could say I said they're just some shows. I could say I'm I'm not like I said, I don't wanna I watch the same stuff all the time, bro. I could say I haven't I've also been watching Suits. You know what I'm saying? Suits is a good show. I've been watching Suits, I've been watching my anime, catch up on One Piece, you know what I'm saying? I'm I said I I have I have variety, bro. But I will say, like De'Aaron Fox pissed me off so bad to the point where he pissed me off so bad that I started watching Love Island. He turned it from NBA to Love Island. That's like all my boys keep talking about it in the group chat, and it's like it keeps I keep seeing memes of it on Twitch. Like, nah, I have to understand the memes because like I need this. I need to understand. I need to laugh. And that's kind of what compelled me and brought me, like, like, like drew me to it. But it's not like When it first dropped, I was like I it wasn't that by any means. No, you vote you voting on who should stay or go? Yes, I ni yeah, Melanie needs to get out of my billow. Melanie, that's the ⁓ the girl that's what's sincere, ain't it? ⁓ so you do know. No, I I so so you you so so you did all of you all of this and you you also watch you you watch I I I don't watch by choice. I'd I'll be doing work and ⁓ someone else is watching it like in the same room. So you what? So but you know what's going on. I pay attention, yeah. Exactly. Okay. That is my exact point. Like every I was like this at first. I was like, hey man. One of my boys asked me, they was hey bro, like, is it like, you know what I'm saying? If I watch Love Island by myself, I was like, yeah, bro. Like, I would look at you sideways. And here I am now, watching Love Island by myself. Hey, shout out, shout out to everybody who goes on those shows. ⁓ you know, my boy Xavier was on Temptation Island. I was I watched that one. assist with the ratings. ⁓ I mean honestly picking C C on. No, but I was I was supporting a friend. I'm supporting Peacock and watching a lot. So you actually have Peacock or you you ⁓ that's my mom's okay. Okay. Peacock we got an unpaid subscriber here. ⁓ hey really speaking of Peacock we could be paid subscribers. Reach out. We give out some codes get some people there's lot of people bootlegging it. Why why should they do that? Talk to us. Yeah man ⁓ we appreciate Lot lotta updates, man. And ⁓ if you do watch Love Island, please tap in. ⁓ you know, I've been following the memes. I'm a big fan of ⁓ And ⁓ yeah, man, we we appreciate y'all tuning in, man. First in person episode, definitely not the last. We will be back. ⁓ Peace. Peace.