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Shaw Local News Talk with Charlene Bielema · WIXN AM 1460 - Shaw Local Radio

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  Speaker 1: Good morning, Sawk Valley. You've joined the Waking crew on
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  Speaker 1: FM ninety five one and A fourteen sixty wix N
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  Speaker 1: and I am joined in the booth now by my
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  Speaker 1: good friend from Shaw Local Media, the managing editor of
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  Speaker 1: the Gazette and Telegraph, the one, the only shar Lean
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  Speaker 1: Bilama one.
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  Speaker 2: Did you know that for sure?
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  Speaker 3: I think when you google my name, I am the
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  Speaker 3: only one in the United States with this name.
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  Speaker 1: See there you go, lay enclaim the fame.
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  Speaker 2: You better get some rights to it. Now look me
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  Speaker 2: up and you find me and Breton. I mean that's
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  Speaker 2: about it.
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  Speaker 1: And uh, you know we've we stay seeing you stay
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  Speaker 1: busy with headlines and so much with with court stuff. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: and you've had a lot of a lot of big
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  Speaker 1: stories coming out of there.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Courts are interesting because you know, this seems like there's
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  Speaker 3: always something going on. And it can be maybe something
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  Speaker 3: happened over the weekend or yesterday that brings you into
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  Speaker 3: the court room to watch the activity. Maybe it's something
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  Speaker 3: that's kind of been brewing for two or three years,
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  Speaker 3: say a large civil trial that takes time. Sometimes oftentimes
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  Speaker 3: they don't even make it to trial. There's a settlement
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  Speaker 3: that's reached ahead of time, or you have a case
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  Speaker 3: like we had last week, where it was actual criminal trial,
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  Speaker 3: and those can be anywhere from seven to ten days,
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  Speaker 3: sometimes longer depending on what the charges are.
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  Speaker 2: The longest I've been in is ten days.
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  Speaker 3: And in last week's case, it was a two day trial,
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  Speaker 3: and it was actually somebody charged with aggravated battery three
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  Speaker 3: counts for a fight that happened in twenty twenty two
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  Speaker 3: in Rock Falls, and that person was convicted and will
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  Speaker 3: be sentenced. I believe it's March seventh, in early March.
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  Speaker 3: For that conviction took the jury about three hours, So.
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  Speaker 2: You're kind of committed. I mean, you go in.
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  Speaker 3: And you jury selection looks always fun to watch. Kind
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  Speaker 3: of watch that and watch it play out through everything.
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  Speaker 3: Court's an interesting process. I think everybody should view it
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  Speaker 3: at least once or twice, even if they're not a
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  Speaker 3: jur So.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, And you know, I think so much of
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  Speaker 1: our conception and understanding of jury selection probably comes from movies, right,
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  Speaker 1: it does, comedies and everybody, I ignore that notice that
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  Speaker 1: came in the mail, but I feel it's a bit
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  Speaker 1: more involved than it is.
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  Speaker 2: Right, it is involved.
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  Speaker 3: There can be you can go, I think, pretty much
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  Speaker 3: your whole life without being called for jury duty. And
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  Speaker 3: I always find it interesting, particularly in Whiteside County, the
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  Speaker 3: day that they have jury selection, you have generally about
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  Speaker 3: eighty people maybe that they'll actually summon. Maybe not all
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  Speaker 3: of them are there, but most of them make it
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  Speaker 3: to that they've been told that they need to be
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  Speaker 3: there based on the selection process. That you get your notice,
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  Speaker 3: you know, that's why you know the week ahead, Hey,
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  Speaker 3: I've got to be there at this time. And then
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  Speaker 3: what they do is they go through and they have
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  Speaker 3: kind of like a I call it almost a lottery
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  Speaker 3: system where they've assigned a name with a number, and
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  Speaker 3: then they'll say that number, and then they'll create a
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  Speaker 3: panel and they'll say, okay, we need a panel of four.
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  Speaker 3: Let's say it's a jury of twelve. So they'll say
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  Speaker 3: we're going to question four people, and they'll bring that
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  Speaker 3: group up and then they ask them a whole bunch
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  Speaker 3: of questions, which often starts with who served in a
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  Speaker 3: jury before. Sometimes you get somebody who'll say I was
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  Speaker 3: called in and I was questioned to be on a jury,
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  Speaker 3: and I wasn't pulled to be on it. Occasionally you'll
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  Speaker 3: get somebody who says I've been on once or twice.
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  Speaker 3: The jury last week had somebody who was called up.
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  Speaker 3: This was his he's served six He served on six juries,
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  Speaker 3: and everybody started clapping. They're like, who does that, because
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  Speaker 3: that's all that. But he said, it's part of my
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  Speaker 3: responsibility as a taxpayer, my civic duty to do that.
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  Speaker 3: And he did get selected, and so this was his
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  Speaker 3: seventh and he'd also served like in a grand jury
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  Speaker 3: that was one of the sixth that he had counted previously.
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  Speaker 3: Or you get a lot of I've never and if
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  Speaker 3: I have, was it criminal or was it civil? Because
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  Speaker 3: they're different. They're different in how that they actually are
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  Speaker 3: are making their decisions, and it can take half a day.
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  Speaker 3: I think that's optimistic, but we see it in the
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  Speaker 3: case of the thirty one I see a thirty one
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  Speaker 3: point five million dollar trial. But let's say the Rock
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  Speaker 3: Falls Firefighter fire fighting officials trial. They prepared for having
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  Speaker 3: a harder time picking a jury, just because of the
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  Speaker 3: publicity that that case had received throughout the years. And
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  Speaker 3: so we were told, expect eighty the first day, expect
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  Speaker 3: eighty the second day. So it would take two days
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  Speaker 3: of jury selection, and it surprisingly didn't. They had that
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  Speaker 3: jury picked out of the first eighty that day. I
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  Speaker 3: think they even started opening statements that afternoon. So once
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  Speaker 3: they get the jury picked, then you tend to go
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  Speaker 3: into opening statements right away from both sides. It's just
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  Speaker 3: interesting to play out because you know, often it's people
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  Speaker 3: from all over the county, all different age groups, and
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  Speaker 3: you're asked not only like have you ever served before
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  Speaker 3: and the basic questions are you a US citizen and such?
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  Speaker 3: But is there anything that would prevent you from serving
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  Speaker 3: based on like medical issues? Because for some that's first
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  Speaker 3: and forefront. If you're going to be seated all day,
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  Speaker 3: do you have a back issue or something that's going
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  Speaker 3: to prevent you from doing that. I've heard them ask
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  Speaker 3: do you have little kids at home? Do you have
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  Speaker 3: what do your kids do? If your kids are grown up?
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  Speaker 3: Not necessarily that would influence you, but it also gives
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  Speaker 3: them background what you do for a living. So there's
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  Speaker 3: a lot of questioning to actually get to that jury
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  Speaker 3: and then the decision that they make of who were
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  Speaker 3: keeping between the attorneys and the judge who are keeping
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  Speaker 3: who were not keeping?
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  Speaker 1: So my butt goes numb on a wooden bench after
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  Speaker 1: about five minutes. Yeah, yeah, oh.
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  Speaker 3: Well, okay, probably not if that's your only reason. I've
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  Speaker 3: seen weather or not work also during snowstorm earlier this year.
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  Speaker 3: Because when you're pick for jury selection, you're you get
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  Speaker 3: the cushy seats.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so you.
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  Speaker 3: Know, yeah, jury selection can be uncomfortable because you're sitting
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  Speaker 3: in those wooden seats, but you just shift around and
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  Speaker 3: you can get up and leave the courtroom if you
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  Speaker 3: need to. They don't say you can't leave for any break.
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  Speaker 2: They breaks.
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  Speaker 1: Now, one thing I've always been curious about, again my
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  Speaker 1: conception of this coming from Hollywood movies like Jury Duty
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  Speaker 1: and Polly Stewart The Weasel, right, that they've you get
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  Speaker 1: picked for your jury duty and then you're sequestered to
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  Speaker 1: a hotel room until the end of the trial. Is
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  Speaker 1: that the case for every now?
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  Speaker 2: Oh no, oh no.
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  Speaker 3: And I can't tell you I've never seen that. I've
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  Speaker 3: covered murder trials, I've covered federal trials. I've not seen that.
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  Speaker 3: But if you're talking something like that's very very high profile,
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  Speaker 3: let's look at like oj you know, you know, and
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  Speaker 3: you're sequestered for a long long time. You know, we
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  Speaker 3: we haven't had to deal with that there. But there
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  Speaker 3: are admonishments that the judge will make. And it's and
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  Speaker 3: it's every time the jury, like when the jury is picked.
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  Speaker 3: It's also when we leave for break, it's when we
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  Speaker 3: leave for lunch, and when we leave for the end
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  Speaker 3: of the day. It's I just want to remind you,
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  Speaker 3: do not discuss this case amongst yourselves. Don't discuss it
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  Speaker 3: with don't talk to anyone basically as you're leaving the
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  Speaker 3: building because I mean, I know I'm press and I
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  Speaker 3: don't approach them, but just to be aware that, don't
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  Speaker 3: have anybody come up to you and talk to you.
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  Speaker 3: Don't go home and talk to you about it, to
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  Speaker 3: your family, don't go to social media, don't read any
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  Speaker 3: press because, as he says, any press that's not evidence.
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  Speaker 3: They also ask the question, as you go into it,
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  Speaker 3: what do you know about this case? Which is kind
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  Speaker 3: of a double edged sword, because for me, I'd like,
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  Speaker 3: here where you go, Yeah, I read that in the shellicle,
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  Speaker 3: you know, because then you know people are reading it.
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  Speaker 3: But you know, if there's too many that know something
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  Speaker 3: about it and have already come to some kind of decision,
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  Speaker 3: then could that lead to a change of venue, which
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  Speaker 3: is usually a request that's made ahead of time. Hey,
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  Speaker 3: or if you can't find a jury, we need a
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  Speaker 3: change of venue to move to a different county. I've
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  Speaker 3: not been part of that in Illinois, but I have
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  Speaker 3: in Iowa, where they say, ah, there's too much known
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  Speaker 3: about this particular murder case in Clinton County, so we're
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  Speaker 3: moving it to Scott and then bigger cases, it could
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  Speaker 3: be moved several counties away because then the press coverage
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  Speaker 3: wouldn't have been there.
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  Speaker 2: So it's not like TV cases aren't solved in an hour.
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  Speaker 1: See, you've already covered by morning MythBusters well ahead time
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  Speaker 1: with busting these. Yeah, because I mean that was always
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  Speaker 1: the idea in my head was that's how it works.
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  Speaker 1: That's very interesting.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I always say too. I would tell my friends,
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  Speaker 3: you know, you watch Lifetime movies. I don't know if
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  Speaker 3: anybody does anymore, and they're like, oh, yeah, there's like
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  Speaker 3: a soliloquy that the person on the stand gets to make.
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  Speaker 2: No, there's an injection that's made before that.
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  Speaker 3: I have been known to watch those kind of movies
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  Speaker 3: and kind of get met at the TV because I
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  Speaker 3: talk out loud, like you can't.
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  Speaker 2: What are you doing? So don't.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, cases are not solid like that either, but evidence
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  Speaker 3: is very interesting. To hear evidence, and to hear from
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  Speaker 3: experts who actually think that's another thing. You don't hear
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  Speaker 3: the case chronologically, and they tell the jury that too.
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  Speaker 3: You're going to hear about this case, and it might
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  Speaker 3: not be in the order that you would expect. I
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  Speaker 3: have an advantage here because I've in most cases read
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  Speaker 3: about it, covered it, and written about it from let's
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  Speaker 3: say it's criminal from the arrest until we've gotten to
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  Speaker 3: this point. For them, they might be introduced to somebody's
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  Speaker 3: testimony who was an investigator that came up on the
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  Speaker 3: scene later, and then somebody else who's a witness may
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  Speaker 3: testify to something they saw earlier, so they can take
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  Speaker 3: notes to kind of refresh their memory, but they don't
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  Speaker 3: have to.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, a big responsibility of shedding some light on
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  Speaker 1: that process. A lot I didn't know. I'm sure nobody
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  Speaker 1: else did you know, maybe some maybe some prosecutors or
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  Speaker 1: somebody out there listening. So very interesting stuff, and lately
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  Speaker 1: never seems to be a shortage for you as far
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  Speaker 1: as work in concern the court cases anymore.
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  Speaker 3: Well, like I always say, you know, I think you
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  Speaker 3: get to the point that, like I combed through records
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  Speaker 3: every day to see what's going on, and you have
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  Speaker 3: to kind of learn that. You have to learn who
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  Speaker 3: your people are in court. Now, that might be a
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  Speaker 3: case of looking at what the charges are. I think
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  Speaker 3: it's really easy. I think it shall. We do a
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  Speaker 3: pretty good job of this is that we're not so
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  Speaker 3: quick to say, oh, this is this is a story
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  Speaker 3: because I don't think I think we were careful not
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  Speaker 3: to elevate something. But if it's a note for something
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  Speaker 3: that's lower, like if somebody's arrested several times for the
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  Speaker 3: same thing and been convicted several times and now we're
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  Speaker 3: here again, that's something we would look at. So you know,
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  Speaker 3: the higher the crime, the more we're going to look
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  Speaker 3: at that. And I'm looking at those every day. I
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  Speaker 3: look at histories what that person maybe has been charged before.
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  Speaker 3: I look at Safety Act, like are they out on
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  Speaker 3: something else? We'd see that a lot where people have
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  Speaker 3: been arrested, they've been let out under the Safety Act
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  Speaker 3: because maybe it's not a charge that they can hold
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  Speaker 3: them therefore, and maybe something bigger happens a couple weeks later.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and now starting to see a lot of posts
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  Speaker 1: I know I've seen from a couple of sheriffs about
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  Speaker 1: Pritzker's reconsideration about how can we improve, you know, how
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  Speaker 1: we're moving with the Safety Act because it, while well
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  Speaker 1: intention seems to be coming with its own with its
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  Speaker 1: own issues, which is pretty typical of anything you know
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  Speaker 1: that that doesn't have a black and white answer.
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  Speaker 2: So I can see both sides of it.
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  Speaker 3: In Iowa where I came from, and they still do.
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  Speaker 3: They have a bond system, and of course it's you
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  Speaker 3: could hold somebody on an offense, maybe with a lower bond,
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  Speaker 3: they probably aren't gonna be able in some cases they
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  Speaker 3: can't make that bond and it's for a lower level offense,
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  Speaker 3: but for a greater offense it might be a million
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  Speaker 3: dollars bond.
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  Speaker 2: Sure, so they can hold them on that.
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  Speaker 3: When I started at Shaw there because the Dickson Telegraph,
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  Speaker 3: it was Safety Act you've just come into being. So
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  Speaker 3: I really had to kind of learn that. You know,
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  Speaker 3: what I see is that they have to you have
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  Speaker 3: they have to make a case for it. The plan
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  Speaker 3: the prosecutors have to say, this is why we want
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  Speaker 3: to hold them here, and it's they're a threat to
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  Speaker 3: the community. Is it a detainable offense? Are they a
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  Speaker 3: flight risk? They have to evaluate all that and then
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  Speaker 3: the defense gets a chance to kind of counter that.
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  Speaker 2: So sometimes you're.
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  Speaker 3: You're surprised because it's like, yeah, we can let them
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  Speaker 3: out on electronic monitoring.
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  Speaker 2: Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. Flight risk. Are do
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  Speaker 2: they leaving and they're wanted on a warrant?
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  Speaker 3: You know, in some cases we see that and then
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  Speaker 3: it's they are flight risk and because they you know, left,
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  Speaker 3: so then when they find them, then all of that
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  Speaker 3: kind of starts over again, where you're back in court
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  Speaker 3: trying to figure out what's going to happen next.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, and I think it's interesting.
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  Speaker 3: Jeff Jeff Helfrich, who is our Ogle County News editor,
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  Speaker 3: had written a really good story about the Ogle County
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  Speaker 3: Sheriff's perspective because he was the only one that testified
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  Speaker 3: about that when the Safety Act was being created, and
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  Speaker 3: he had a lot to say about it. So I'd say,
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  Speaker 3: check that that article out. I read that and I
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  Speaker 3: was like, wow, that's a great primer.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, absolutely, well, taking a turn on the lighter
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  Speaker 1: side of courts and criminals, you know, I always love
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  Speaker 1: hearing about student of the month, and there's there's so many,
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  Speaker 1: you know, so many communities, so many schools. What's kind
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  Speaker 1: of the process with selecting some of these for publication?
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  Speaker 2: I kind of inherited that when I started.
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  Speaker 3: There were all of these emails coming in and they
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  Speaker 3: come in a batch and a student of the month,
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  Speaker 3: and I'd be like, can somebody what.
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  Speaker 2: Are we what are we doing here?
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  Speaker 3: But it actually is a really cool feature where different
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  Speaker 3: schools have different processes. Some of the students of the
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  Speaker 3: month are actually awarded by maybe a business and sometimes
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  Speaker 3: like Rotary could be involved, sometimes the district itself, but
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  Speaker 3: the districts actually select or they let us know who
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  Speaker 3: they are, who those students are going to be.
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  Speaker 2: But they do it by having they let the student know.
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  Speaker 2: The student fills out.
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  Speaker 3: An automatic form that they can email to me with
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  Speaker 3: a photo, and they answered those four questions about you know,
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  Speaker 3: kind of five questions, tell me about yourself, what do
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  Speaker 3: you want to be, what classes do you like, memorable moments,
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  Speaker 3: how's your future look? And so it's just kind of
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  Speaker 3: a profile of these are who's our students are. Most
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  Speaker 3: of them are seniors. Sometimes they're juniors. We've had some
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  Speaker 3: from Dixon this year. We sometimes see Dixon students if
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  Speaker 3: they go to Newman and Newman picks out a student
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  Speaker 3: that's from Dixon, but we've have had some from Dixon
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  Speaker 3: this year. We have some from Polo Stirling Rock Falls.
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  Speaker 3: Love to see more districts get involved. I think it
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  Speaker 3: does show that there's good to be found in our
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  Speaker 3: school districts. Many of these students have loftier goals. They're
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  Speaker 3: very involved in extracurricular activities. They're already doing volunteer work.
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  Speaker 3: They have started their plans for the future, even if
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  Speaker 3: they don't know what school that is. They may go
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  Speaker 3: to SOP for two years, like I saw in the
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  Speaker 3: most recent one for nursing. So it's just a way
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  Speaker 3: to get the word out about our academic students. One
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  Speaker 3: thing I've always heard for years and years is that
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  Speaker 3: we see a lot of sports coverage about students who
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  Speaker 3: do well on the field. They do well playing basketball.
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  Speaker 3: What about students who are academically gifted. I'd like to
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  Speaker 3: take that one step farther to have even like fine
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  Speaker 3: arts recognized, because there's also that and that's important part
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  Speaker 3: of learning and it's lifelong.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and I mean and it's very expansive. I
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  Speaker 1: mean it's not just painting or drawing. Their christ graphic
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  Speaker 1: digital media arts. You know, I know my time reporting
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  Speaker 1: over at the whites Head Area Career Center. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: some of their students we're going on to work for
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  Speaker 1: big names in big industries and work that was already
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  Speaker 1: starting to take shape and generating right out of the
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  Speaker 1: high school.
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  Speaker 3: Level, right right, They've got I think that's a great
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  Speaker 3: group of kids. When you're looking at people who young people,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, obviously they've got the pulse of the culture.
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  Speaker 2: They understand what that is.
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  Speaker 3: And you can be like, it's like me if when
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  Speaker 3: I hear a word and like, I don't know is
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  Speaker 3: that even like can I say.
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  Speaker 2: That word cool? Is that cool word for me to say?
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  Speaker 2: Or do that?
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  Speaker 3: Have I made it old? It's kind of that same thing.
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  Speaker 3: They understand a certain segment of culture. We all have
• 15:33
  Speaker 3: that different generational understanding. So they do bring something to
• 15:36
  Speaker 3: the table. As well as as the skill and the
• 15:39
  Speaker 3: knowledge of how to use the technical tools that some
• 15:41
  Speaker 3: of us who have been in the work first for
• 15:42
  Speaker 3: a while have had to actually adapt to and learn
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: over the years.
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: They bring it and they teach us.
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so no, always great and I agree with you,
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: spotlight should be should be shined on on both sides
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: of that because we've always had sports and basketball right
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: now kind of what leading the way for sports coverage.
• 15:59
  Speaker 3: Right yeah, this time, this time of the year, I know,
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: we have a daily meeting in our newsroom, and my
• 16:06
  Speaker 3: photographer Alex Pascal was like, okay, I've got sports every
• 16:09
  Speaker 3: night and some things on the weekends, and so we're
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: looking at okay, well that means we've got a plan
• 16:14
  Speaker 3: ahead for our feature writing or something that's maybe a
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: shot that we could take at some other time. But
• 16:18
  Speaker 3: basketball obviously through December. Listening to Sam this morning talking
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: about like the Dixon Classic, you know, the basketball Classic
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: and how much how much coverage there.
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: So oh no, that's great. Well, shar we're about out
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: out of time today, but I want to thank you
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: for coming in the booth and for being flexible with
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: me as I've had an overabundance of guests today. Never
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: a bad yeah, yeah, never a problem. Trying to get
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: some more more folks in here. So always looking forward
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: to our sessions and hearing what you guys are doing
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: on this side of media, so thank you.
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: Yep, you're welcome.