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Hot Sheet: MLB misses on Futures Game & Draft, Teams that nailed it · Foul Territory

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  Speaker 1: You may maybe question the first round pick a little bit,
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  Speaker 1: but then you look at what they.
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  Speaker 2: Did long from this, like, okay, it starts all that up.
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  Speaker 3: A special hot sheet from Atlanta.
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  Speaker 4: We're in the battery at Trust Humidity Corner in front
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  Speaker 4: of a live studio audience. Here it's Scottie Brown along
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  Speaker 4: with Baseball America's JJ Cooper and Peter Flaherty. Very excited
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  Speaker 4: to recap the draft and everything else that's going on
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  Speaker 4: down here in Atlanta. Before we even hit the specifics
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  Speaker 4: of the draft, team and player wise, JJ, I do
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  Speaker 4: want to take a global look at the sport because
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  Speaker 4: we delivered the goods on the Foul Territory network in
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  Speaker 4: Baseball America, whether it's good or bad, and we're gonna
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  Speaker 4: hype players and teams coming up in a moment. But
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  Speaker 4: your picture on Twitter showing the crowd at the Futures
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  Speaker 4: game went pretty viral.
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  Speaker 3: That's not good.
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  Speaker 4: It was quite empty and there were how many players,
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  Speaker 4: zero players that showed up for the MLB Draft. And
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  Speaker 4: I know it's complicated, but ze Zo, we have to
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  Speaker 4: take a step back as a sport and say what
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  Speaker 4: are we doing and what should we do to change it?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, let's take the draft for a second. First. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: so with the draft.
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  Speaker 1: The tricky part with the draft that I don't have
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  Speaker 1: a good answer for other than maybe pay the players
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  Speaker 1: to come is unlike these other drafts. Right in the
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  Speaker 1: NFL draft, if you show up, you don't know where
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  Speaker 1: you're going to be drafted, but you know that you're
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  Speaker 1: going to sign.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: If you get drafted, you're going to sign. You're already
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  Speaker 1: done with your eligibility. NBA Draft, if you get drafted,
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  Speaker 1: you're going to sign. You could have backed out earlier,
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  Speaker 1: but at that point you're going to sign. The baseball
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  Speaker 1: draft's not that way. The baseball draft is something where
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  Speaker 1: if you're in high school, you can sign, or you
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  Speaker 1: could go to college. If you're in college, you can sign,
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  Speaker 1: or you can go back to school. And so a
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  Speaker 1: lot of agents have the fear that by showing up right,
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  Speaker 1: you're indicating in some way that you are going to sign. Now,
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  Speaker 1: obviously most of the guys or top first round picks
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  Speaker 1: are going to sign, but the agent has to kind
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  Speaker 1: of drive that bargain where it's like, look, if you
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  Speaker 1: don't give you the money I want, we'll just go
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  Speaker 1: to school or we'll stay at school or whatever, and
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  Speaker 1: if you're there, that kind of exerts a little bit
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  Speaker 1: of pressure on the agent because it's kind of embarrassing
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  Speaker 1: if your player a who's sitting there the whole night
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  Speaker 1: and you never hear a name called because the agent
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  Speaker 1: wanted six point two million and no one was willing
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  Speaker 1: to give you more than four point eight and so
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  Speaker 1: it's like, Okay, we're going to school. That's the situation
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  Speaker 1: that doesn't exist the other ones. I don't know how
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  Speaker 1: to Like, we've obviously had players year after year who
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  Speaker 1: do show up, but I don't know how to solve
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  Speaker 1: that in the long term because the baseball draft is
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  Speaker 1: different than the other ones.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, so let me ask you about this, because it's
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  Speaker 4: generally going to have just first round picks and even
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  Speaker 4: potentially ten, top ten, fifteen, twenty ish tops.
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  Speaker 3: Is who is going to show up?
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  Speaker 4: Because you also don't want to show up there and
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  Speaker 4: then not even fall in the first round, even regardless
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  Speaker 4: of money.
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  Speaker 3: But based on talent, that's one thing.
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  Speaker 1: We've had examples where it's like you're a guy in
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  Speaker 1: minded and he's gonna show up and you're like, huh, okay.
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  Speaker 4: Is he gonna get picked. But here's my question. The
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  Speaker 4: draft nowadays essentially has a cap to it. You're alloted
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  Speaker 4: at a certain amount of money.
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  Speaker 3: Should we make it more.
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  Speaker 4: Of a structure where this pick has this designation for
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  Speaker 4: how much money, and you go down the line and
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  Speaker 4: it becomes really a talent A all the way down
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  Speaker 4: to talent Z kind of situation.
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  Speaker 1: I would say no, because like that, I will say,
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  Speaker 1: for one thing that's kind of almost like the things
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  Speaker 1: that the PA has always fought against, that's a salary
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  Speaker 1: cap in someone.
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  Speaker 3: They already have that in the draft.
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  Speaker 2: No, but they don't some ways. They have in some ways.
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  Speaker 1: But at the same time, if your Paul schemes, you're
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  Speaker 1: gonna make more money whatever that pick is than if
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  Speaker 1: you're the number one pick in a year where there's
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  Speaker 1: no clear number one, there is a negotiation very much going.
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  Speaker 4: Sure, But it's like, and I know this is a
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  Speaker 4: big deal for individual players, but it's like we're not
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  Speaker 4: talking about tens of millions of dollars.
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  Speaker 3: We're saying, like, oh, Paul might get eight and a
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  Speaker 3: half for ten.
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  Speaker 4: Like my thing is, we are ruining pieces of the
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  Speaker 4: draft and our sport by embarrassing ourselves and having no
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  Speaker 4: one there. Because of the way it's structured, it's already
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  Speaker 4: a cap the team has to we should say, the
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  Speaker 4: team has to spend their whole a lotment. It's going
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  Speaker 4: to be laid out this way. That's my that's my
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  Speaker 4: argument forget otherwise, what's the fix again, That's what I
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  Speaker 4: don't This is an unusual year. In most years we've
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  Speaker 4: had multiple guys there, right, This is like, maybe this
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  Speaker 4: is a new trend. Maybe this is a year that
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  Speaker 4: a certain agencies who generally are not going to send
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  Speaker 4: their players to the draft had many of the top
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  Speaker 4: you know, players who were going to go top ten.
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  Speaker 2: So maybe it's an unusual year.
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  Speaker 1: We don't know on that, But that's again, it is
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  Speaker 1: something where yeah, I wish that's the problem with this
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  Speaker 1: in the futures game too. The same thing when we
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  Speaker 1: talk about the futures game. I don't have an answer
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  Speaker 1: an easy answer for that either.
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  Speaker 3: I do, Okay, go ahead, and I said it last week.
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  Speaker 4: I said it's going to be completely buried from a
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  Speaker 4: team and from an attention perspective, because you're putting it
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  Speaker 4: on a Saturday, in the thick of games. They have
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  Speaker 4: this place held down for a week. Tuesday is the
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  Speaker 4: All Star game. Everyone's all hyped up. You just saw
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  Speaker 4: the best players on the planet. Want to see the
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  Speaker 4: next wave of best players on the planet Wednesday. I
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  Speaker 4: don't care about your minor league schedule. If a guy
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  Speaker 4: misses a game or.
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  Speaker 2: Two, yeah, but they don't play on Wednesday either. They're
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  Speaker 2: off too.
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  Speaker 4: Who doesn't minor leagues? So here's my point, futures game Wednesday.
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  Speaker 4: You have the ballpark, good to go. Don't tell me
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  Speaker 4: we want to get everyone now. We can't pay for
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  Speaker 4: an extra day or whatever. You're putting it on Saturday
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  Speaker 4: where it's buried.
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  Speaker 2: I would love to try that.
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  Speaker 1: My suspicion is we'll see less than that game in
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  Speaker 1: the that situation, less what, less attendance, lesson you see
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  Speaker 1: them more, a little better TV ratings, but less attendance.
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  Speaker 3: Better TV ratings I think is important. I think. But
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  Speaker 3: on the wind much hard than the other day. But
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  Speaker 3: on see, That's what I was.
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  Speaker 1: Gonna say, though this one's been an unusual one, like Okay,
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  Speaker 1: as much as it pains me to say, part of
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  Speaker 1: it is you gotta get the right people for the
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  Speaker 1: celebrity softball.
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  Speaker 2: Now that hurts me, but La was packed. Why was
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  Speaker 2: La packed?
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  Speaker 3: It's La though they're packed for everything.
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  Speaker 2: No, they were packed. They have bad Bunny, do you
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  Speaker 2: think so?
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I tell you. When I was walking in,
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  Speaker 1: I would ask the people, what are you here for?
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  Speaker 2: And they were like, bad bunny.
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  Speaker 3: So La does show up and not that Atlanta doesn't, but.
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  Speaker 1: No, But I would say, also, we are timed here,
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  Speaker 1: like I've had Braise fans reach out to me after
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  Speaker 1: that tweet and make the points like this is terrible timing.
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  Speaker 1: In some ways, Braise fans are very upset, very disheartened
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  Speaker 1: with their team right now.
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  Speaker 2: Right they're having the worst.
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  Speaker 1: Year they've had in years, and so they didn't It
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  Speaker 1: wasn't something Jr. Richie started the game. Peyden Harris was
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  Speaker 1: in the game. But it's not something where they have
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  Speaker 1: a Ronald Lacunya like they've had in the past years.
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  Speaker 1: They didn't have an Aussie Albi's in the game. They
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  Speaker 1: didn't have you know, going back to Freddy Freeman and Jason.
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  Speaker 3: That's why they didn't show up to the Futures game.
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  Speaker 1: In some in some way, yeah, like if you said,
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  Speaker 1: like when I talk to the Royals, because the Royals
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  Speaker 1: Kansas City was the gold standard of this and the
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  Speaker 1: Royals fancy. We didn't have anything else, but we had
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  Speaker 1: you want to see Ordano Venturo. We wanted to see
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  Speaker 1: Will Myers. They had great prospects, and so yeah, they're
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  Speaker 1: gonna come see that.
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  Speaker 4: Well, let me ask Peter here. So we've been hogging
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  Speaker 4: and dominating. As you can tell, we're a little passionate
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  Speaker 4: about this one. But Peter, what do you think about
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  Speaker 4: my two ideas with the draft and with the Wednesday
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  Speaker 4: Futures game? Yay or nay with either of those, and
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  Speaker 4: if you have any other ideas. I'm all ears. I
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  Speaker 4: know it's complicated.
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  Speaker 5: No, I was gonna kind of just let you guys
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  Speaker 5: duke it out.
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  Speaker 2: I was.
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  Speaker 5: I was an excited kind of bystander for it. But
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  Speaker 5: I don't hate the idea of trying it on a Wednesday. Obviously,
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  Speaker 5: you want the most amount of eyes you can on
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  Speaker 5: the game and the future of the sport. I think
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  Speaker 5: that's really really important. So I mean, if you try
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  Speaker 5: it out on a Wednesday's sort of a trial run
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  Speaker 5: and see how that goes. I mean, I don't hate it.
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  Speaker 5: I'm just all for getting as many eyes as possible.
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  Speaker 5: On the sport as we all are, so that idea
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  Speaker 5: seems to promote it, so I'm about it.
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  Speaker 4: There are a lot of baseball fans that will look
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  Speaker 4: for anything baseball, and there's no games on Wednesday.
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  Speaker 2: It is the other does no games. There's basically like
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  Speaker 2: no sports.
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  Speaker 3: There's nothing.
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  Speaker 4: We are wasting a time period there when it is
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  Speaker 4: our time to shine. We should not have blank nights
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  Speaker 4: because there are so few in sports, and the Future's
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  Speaker 4: game could be really cool for people to check out.
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  Speaker 2: You've told me that I would love to try it,
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  Speaker 2: and if it doesn't work, we can always.
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  Speaker 4: That's my point. What's the worst that happens? You do
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  Speaker 4: it on a Wednesday night, it doesn't do as well
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  Speaker 4: and it's not worth it. Okay, but I haven't heard
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  Speaker 4: a good reason. I know the other ones complicated. I
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  Speaker 4: haven't heard a good reason why we wouldn't put it
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  Speaker 4: on its own platform on one night to see what happens.
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  Speaker 4: So until I'm getting told otherwise. Besides, oh, it's logistically annoying.
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  Speaker 4: We'd have to rebudget. Okay, do you want to sell
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  Speaker 4: the future of the sport, This is the way to
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  Speaker 4: do it.
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  Speaker 3: This is the premier showcase and it is a cool event.
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  Speaker 3: I've been part of it. I love it.
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  Speaker 4: So I'm saying this because I wanted to change all Right,
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  Speaker 4: when we come back, we're going to deliver the goods
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  Speaker 4: on the draft, teams, players, Shocker at the top, the
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  Speaker 4: whole deal coming up next, Scott.
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  Speaker 3: Let's hit the first move.
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  Speaker 4: Fun night watching the draft for me to follow the storylines,
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  Speaker 4: especially at the top, but let's start with team teak takeaways.
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  Speaker 4: Peter your thoughts on some teams that stood out one
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  Speaker 4: way or another.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean starting with a draft that I really liked.
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  Speaker 5: I loved what the Baltimore Orioles did, especially with their
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  Speaker 5: first five picks. They got Ike Irish at nineteen, and
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  Speaker 5: then they went back to back with Keaton Bodine and
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  Speaker 5: Behavior Loy at thirty and thirty one respectively, Slater Debrun
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  Speaker 5: and Joseph Jurwa with their CBA pick and their second
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  Speaker 5: round pick, and then they rounded out the night with J. T.
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  Speaker 5: Quinn and R. J Asin. But particularly focusing on those
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  Speaker 5: first five guys. Ike Irish is one of the better
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  Speaker 5: hit power combos of any college hitter in this year's class.
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  Speaker 5: He's got a comfortably plus arm. The question with him
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  Speaker 5: is where does he fit defensively? Even if he does
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  Speaker 5: move off of the catcher position, it seems perhaps more
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  Speaker 5: likely than not that he ends up in a court
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  Speaker 5: downd field spot. The bat is enough and the arm
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  Speaker 5: is enough where that's still a really, really enticing profile.
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  Speaker 5: Especially with the bat. I mean it's fifty five's on
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  Speaker 5: both the hit and power, and then with Bodine he's
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  Speaker 5: one of the best defensive catchers and one of the
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  Speaker 5: best catchers in general in this year's draft. He's one
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  Speaker 5: of only two players that we have Baseball America stuck
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  Speaker 5: a plus hit two on him in Kyson Cunningham. Pasing
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  Speaker 5: Cunningham rather high school shortstop out of Texas, but outstanding
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  Speaker 5: feel for the barrel, double plus contact skills, smooth and
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  Speaker 5: sound defender behind the plate with an above average accurate
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  Speaker 5: arm behavior Lloyd Golden Spike's Award winner plus batspeed plus
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  Speaker 5: power not only rob but most importantly in game I've
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  Speaker 5: become increasingly more confident in his ability to stick a shortstop. Slater.
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  Speaker 5: Debron kind of fits that bouncy, prototypical leadoff hitter. He's
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  Speaker 5: in the mold of someone that fits that archetype. He's
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  Speaker 5: a plus defender in center field. The instincts with him
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  Speaker 5: are outstanding. And then Joseph Jerwa a little bit of
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  Speaker 5: a unicorny type guy and that he's a six foot eight,
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  Speaker 5: two hundred pound left hander. Attacks from this really low
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  Speaker 5: three quarter slot borderline slight arm slot, plus change up
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  Speaker 5: fastball has some run and ride through the zone. It'll
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  Speaker 5: be interesting to see how his off speed offerings, particularly
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  Speaker 5: is kind of slurvey breaking ball is developed. But I
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  Speaker 5: really love those first five picks there. I really like
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  Speaker 5: the Phillies trio of arms, particularly with gauge Wood, Kate
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  Speaker 5: ober Mueller, and Cody Balker. Particularly gauge Wood it picked
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  Speaker 5: twenty six, I think it was. I think that's tremendous
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  Speaker 5: value for someone like gauge Wood, who is one of
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  Speaker 5: the best fastballs in this year's draft, pairs it with
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  Speaker 5: an above average breaking ball, and Kate ober Mueller is
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  Speaker 5: a really, really tough ab for both left handers and
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  Speaker 5: right handers to get. A plus slider fastball has been
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  Speaker 5: up to ninety from a really really low release height.
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  Speaker 5: It's just a tough and unique look. So those two
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  Speaker 5: classes stood out to me just off the bat.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm gonna have to go I'm gonna go to
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  Speaker 1: the very top of the draft just to kind of
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  Speaker 1: let's talk through the Nationals draft. I do think it
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  Speaker 1: was very interesting for a lot of people. I do
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  Speaker 1: think that they look at that and say, wow, that
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  Speaker 1: was a shocker that they win Eli Willets the high
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  Speaker 1: school shortstop one to one. You know a lot of
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  Speaker 1: thought that maybe it'll be Kate Anderson, maybe it'll be
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  Speaker 1: Ethan Holiday.
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  Speaker 2: But Willarts has always kind of been in that mix.
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  Speaker 1: He's definitely more of a shortstop long term than Ethan Holiday.
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  Speaker 1: The question is is okay, is the power going to develop?
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  Speaker 1: But he's also the youngest player literally ever drafted with
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  Speaker 1: the first pick, so there's room for him to develop.
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  Speaker 2: There's time for him to develop.
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  Speaker 1: But the other thing I would say with that is
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  Speaker 1: we saw in day two, we saw today kind of
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  Speaker 1: the after effects of that. I can say pretty confidently
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  Speaker 1: by the way that they drafted on Day two. Eli
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  Speaker 1: Willets is not going to get full bonus uh, you know,
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  Speaker 1: full bonus pool.
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  Speaker 2: We knew that, but.
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  Speaker 1: They were able to get guys like Miguel c May
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  Speaker 1: who throws one hundred, who was a guy who was
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  Speaker 1: considered very likely a second round pick. They got Koy James,
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  Speaker 1: who could have easily bit a secondround pick, high school
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  Speaker 1: shortstop in the uh, you know, in the fifth round.
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  Speaker 1: So these are the kind of guys where you're I
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  Speaker 1: wouldn't even say you're spreading it around because Eli Willis
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  Speaker 1: was considered one of the top guys in the draft.
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  Speaker 1: But by doing that and by making a deal, I
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  Speaker 1: would say that they've got like four or five you
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  Speaker 1: know swings. You know, they they basically gave themselves more
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  Speaker 1: chances in addition to getting a really top talent.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, do you think that's right?
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  Speaker 5: Go ahead, Peter, No, I was gonna say I didn't
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  Speaker 5: even really think Eli Willitts was all that surprising. Like
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  Speaker 5: I guess, the two leaders in the clubhouse and the
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  Speaker 5: lead up to the draft seemed to have been Kate
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  Speaker 5: Anderson and Ethan Holiday. But Willitts was always right there.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, in our staff draft in late April, I
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  Speaker 5: took Willitts one pint one with my hypothetical pick is
• 15:00
  Speaker 5: the Nationals. I mean, he was always a contender. I
• 15:02
  Speaker 5: would say the pick would have fit the bill of
• 15:04
  Speaker 5: shocking if it wasn't any of that trio of Anderson
• 15:08
  Speaker 5: Holiday or Willits and Willitts is a really, really good player,
• 15:11
  Speaker 5: and I think that in the aftermath of last night,
• 15:14
  Speaker 5: he's kind of gone a little bit underrated. I think
• 15:17
  Speaker 5: people don't really realize how good of a player he is.
• 15:20
  Speaker 5: I mean, it's a really enticing offensive profile. The hit
• 15:25
  Speaker 5: ability is advanced. He's got a quick and compact swing
• 15:28
  Speaker 5: from both sides of the plate with an advanced feel
• 15:31
  Speaker 5: for the barrel. I mean it's a fifty five borderline
• 15:34
  Speaker 5: six hit and just naturally JJ you cited it in
• 15:38
  Speaker 5: the open, but I mean he's seventeen years old. He's
• 15:41
  Speaker 5: the youngest number one overall pick in MLB draft history,
• 15:45
  Speaker 5: just a byproduct of him naturally getting older. He's going
• 15:49
  Speaker 5: to add physicality and strength and potentially get to MLB
• 15:52
  Speaker 5: average power, and that creates a really appealing offensive profile
• 15:56
  Speaker 5: to go along with his already above average defense shortstop,
• 16:00
  Speaker 5: He's a plus runner. His baseball sense is outstanding. Comes
• 16:03
  Speaker 5: from a baseball family. His dad, coach Reggie Willitts, was
• 16:07
  Speaker 5: an outfieler with the Angels for seven years. He's now
• 16:10
  Speaker 5: the associate head coach at Oklahoma. His brother Jackson's been
• 16:13
  Speaker 5: the starting shortstop at Oklahoma for two years. I mean,
• 16:16
  Speaker 5: he's been around the game since the second he was
• 16:20
  Speaker 5: he was brought into this world. So I mean, I
• 16:23
  Speaker 5: like people calling the you know, Nationals cheap or whatever
• 16:27
  Speaker 5: for saying they're deal hunting, like not at all, Like
• 16:31
  Speaker 5: make my mistake about it. This dude was the top
• 16:33
  Speaker 5: guy on their board one thousand percent, and they wouldn't
• 16:36
  Speaker 5: have taken anyone else. And you also see the byproduct
• 16:39
  Speaker 5: of that with who they got in the you know,
• 16:42
  Speaker 5: in the following rounds as Jju also alluded to that
• 16:46
  Speaker 5: trio of high schoolers they got in rounds three through
• 16:48
  Speaker 5: five with Lannon Harmon, Miguel Siema, and Koy James, Like
• 16:51
  Speaker 5: that is a really vaunted trio of high upside guys,
• 16:56
  Speaker 5: especially Lannon Harmon and the third six foot five projectable
• 17:02
  Speaker 5: right hander with tremendous arm speed, fastball is a seventy
• 17:06
  Speaker 5: grade pitch. I mean, he's got arguably as much upside
• 17:11
  Speaker 5: as any high school pitcher in the draft or close
• 17:13
  Speaker 5: to it. And Miguel Sime's long been known for his
• 17:16
  Speaker 5: heater and cooy James had a great swing. I had
• 17:19
  Speaker 5: a great spring rather, but I really like what the
• 17:22
  Speaker 5: Nationals did.
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: First off, Peter should have been flaunting that last night.
• 17:28
  Speaker 4: I hope you put that out there. Hey, I took
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: him one one in my way? Did you tweet that
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: out for the world, because most people were looking like,
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: who had this guy going number one?
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: I can't wider the Dodgers in the last staff draft,
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: but I got in the wrong round because we only
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: went to forty and it was sixty three. But you
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: know it was a good fit.
• 17:44
  Speaker 4: Still impressive, Yes, And my second question and seriousness is
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: what do you think of the way that teams are
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: plugging in ages into their models. Do you think obviously
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: it's a big factor, right, Do you think that they're
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: over hyping by doing that or do you think they
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: should you doing that? And just for clarification for our crowd, Yes,
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: youngest player, so they're saying he's got this much more
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: growth based on how we evaluate players at that age.
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: What I would say is it's a piece and it
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: should be a factor, right, you should put it in there.
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: Bobbywit Junior was one of the old guys in his class.
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: So if you said we put our model here and
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: it spits out that you can't draft bobbywit junior because
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: he's too old for the class, didn't rework your model, right,
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: If you want to say, again, the thing with all
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: these models that are that all these teams have now
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: is not it should not be to say here's our pick.
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: It should be to say we're lining up a board
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: and it's trying to take all these I mean literally
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: probably thousands of inputs now, wait them all and then
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: spit out something. But then at the end of the day,
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: the human should still be like, Okay, I know what
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: this says. But now, for instance, if you did a
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: model the year that Mike Trout was a first rounder,
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: which they didn't have many really models back then, but
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: if you did Mike Trout's model, it had been like, uh, now,
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: Jersey high school guy, competition's not good enough. Let's you know,
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: move on. And obviously you don't do that. Yeah, you
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: have to be careful, that's all. But it is a factor,
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: for sure. I just want to make sure people are
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: aware of that.
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: That's enticing.
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: But I think there was a point in our game
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: where you would look at a seventeen year.
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: Old macro kidding me.
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: I'm not putting my freaking job on the line for
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: this kind of wild card. And now it's like, oh, well,
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: first off, we have many years on the five year
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: plan to make sure that this goes right. It buys
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: you time for whoever's making those decisions, and there is
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: growth potential that you, generally on the average curve do
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: not see from a nineteen year old or a twenty
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: two year old.
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: Right that.
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: Obviously, you grow into your body and things change.
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: Exactly, and so you are trying to again you're factoring
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: it in there. You don't take Eli Willets one one
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: because he's young.
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: You take him because you like the talent.
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: You think that this is the guy who could be
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: your shortstop in the long term for years to come.
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: But then it's a nice bonus for him that he's
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: also so young.
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: Yes, all right, we want to hit other points of
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: the top of the draft coming up next, so quickie
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: break and our last break. Then we'll get into some
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: other parts of the top.
• 20:18
  Speaker 7: Ah, Summer, we almost forgot what it feels like to play,
• 20:24
  Speaker 7: just because but even Summer needs back up, a little
• 20:27
  Speaker 7: partner in the good kind of chaos. Someone to bring
• 20:31
  Speaker 7: the Kung Fu kicks. Oh yeah, to train some dragons, fly,
• 20:35
  Speaker 7: young dragon writer fly. The kind of fun that keeps
• 20:38
  Speaker 7: the days going, that turns living rooms into playgrounds and
• 20:41
  Speaker 7: reminds us what our body is and our hearts were
• 20:45
  Speaker 7: made for. Play that moves you.
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: I said, quickie, break, we are back and let's get
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: in some other portions of the draft. Tyler Bremner number two,
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: I joked on foul Territory earlier today, Angels called him
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: and said, we need at you Friday.
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: You're starting. I'm kidding.
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: I'm sure that a million times in the pen. You know,
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: sign them on Thursday their second rounder and then put
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: the LSU reliever and put them in the pen on
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: That's right, Hey, they're making they're trying to make a
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: little wild card run.
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: Don't be surprised.
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: AJ Prazinski and Airocrats sitting on bou Territory earlier with
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: me said by far number one team that they'd want
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: to get a phone call from these days. If they're
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: a college player, is the Angels because of your chance
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: to make it and they've gone through their issues from
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: a performance standpoint, but they're a worse place to be
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: than Anaheim playing with Mike Trout with a chance to
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: win or the chance to get the seam back into
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: playoff contention.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: Like Peter with Rebner, he's one of the top college
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: pitchers in this class, but he also is kind of
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: one of the guys who could be the fastest movie.
• 21:47
  Speaker 5: Right. Yeah, so we knew the Angels would kind of
• 21:50
  Speaker 5: make some noise or potentially make a splash it too.
• 21:53
  Speaker 5: They did just that with getting Tyler Bremner presumably on
• 21:56
  Speaker 5: a decent haircut, but a little bit like will It's
• 21:59
  Speaker 5: people kind of get how good Tyler Bremner is. I mean,
• 22:03
  Speaker 5: the fastball is a plus pitch up to ninety eight.
• 22:05
  Speaker 5: The traits about it, or the under the hood traits
• 22:07
  Speaker 5: are really exciting. His change ups a legitimate wipeout double
• 22:11
  Speaker 5: plus pitch that's one of the best of its kind
• 22:13
  Speaker 5: and one of the best individual pitches in this year's draft.
• 22:16
  Speaker 5: The slider has above average potential, and he's a plus
• 22:19
  Speaker 5: stripe thrower with an outstanding mound presence and a slam
• 22:22
  Speaker 5: dunk starter. So, I mean, when you start to bucket
• 22:24
  Speaker 5: these guys and you know see where they fit, he
• 22:27
  Speaker 5: fits into a whole lot of positive buckets and also
• 22:31
  Speaker 5: is kind of you mentioned to be a potentially efficient mover.
• 22:35
  Speaker 5: There isn't really an obvious wart with Bremner that you
• 22:38
  Speaker 5: can point to and circle and be like, Okay, you
• 22:40
  Speaker 5: know we really got to dive in here and fix
• 22:43
  Speaker 5: this or this area really needs work. Yes, the slider
• 22:45
  Speaker 5: needs were finding it got hit around a little bit
• 22:47
  Speaker 5: this year. There are other things you know, you can
• 22:48
  Speaker 5: tinker with, but he's a really polished arm.
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: The other thing I'll just add with that is that
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: when you look at a guy like Bremner, there was
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: a lot of like, oh, but he didn't perform this year.
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: He just performed poorly at the wrong time, which is
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: the start of the season, and then he was back
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: to being Tyler Bremner. But if you just focused on
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: it in you know, March, you're like, oh.
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: He's not what he's supposed to be. By the end
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: of the year, he was what he's supposed to be.
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: Anyone else that you want to run through that really
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: stood out one way or another, Oh it looks like
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: we have a question took more of a comment but
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: still worth bringing up from Dylan who follows the show,
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: and we appreciate that, Dylan. I'm intrigued by Kyson Witherspoon
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: at fifteen overall to the Red Sox. His skipper in
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: college was phenomenal in developing him.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: I gotta say the Red Sox pitching, you know, you
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: caroll about Witherspoon, but Witherspoon, Marcus Phillips, Anthony Ayinsen, who
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: we expected to go a little.
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: Bit higher than that.
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: This is a number of starters who all could end
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: up being you know, I mean a number of pitchers
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: who can all make an impact for the Red Sox
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: and could all be reasonably fast movers. Don't expect them
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: there this year, don't maybe expect them their next year.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: But okay, twenty seven, Yeah, I Thinksop Praisy.
• 24:01
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a really fun trio, especially just given the
• 24:05
  Speaker 5: prowess of the Red Sox player development department, particularly on
• 24:08
  Speaker 5: the pitching side. But focusing solely on the comment about Kayson,
• 24:12
  Speaker 5: I mean, he's another one that was one of the
• 24:14
  Speaker 5: premier arms in this year's draft. Plus fastball, slider, combo,
• 24:18
  Speaker 5: above average strike thrower, change up will Flash holds his
• 24:21
  Speaker 5: velocity really impressively throughout the entirety of his outing I mean,
• 24:26
  Speaker 5: he'll live in the mid nineties and bump a ninety
• 24:29
  Speaker 5: seven to ninety eight for the entirety of his start. Like,
• 24:33
  Speaker 5: he's a starter all the way for me. And he's
• 24:36
  Speaker 5: another one that I think is a fun developmental pairing
• 24:39
  Speaker 5: with the Red Sox. Same with Phillips and Ianson. From
• 24:43
  Speaker 5: a stuff standpoint, Phillips, especially with the fastball slider combo
• 24:46
  Speaker 5: he has. He's this big, physical right hander. This stuff
• 24:50
  Speaker 5: is really loud. I think there's a ton of upside there.
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: All right, let's get one more comment in there.
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: Will Di Bartolow even be the GM for the Nash
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: Knows or in the front office by the time will
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: it gets to the show?
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: Great question.
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: We do have past precedent here because when Mike Rizzo
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: made the pick in two thousand and nine certain Steven Strasburg,
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: he was the introm GM because Jim Bowden had been.
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: Let you know, I had resigned in March yep.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: So it doesn't guarantee that that will happen, but it
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: is absolutely a possibility. But I will also say with this,
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: this is something where by doing what they did it
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: may have altered how they did the draft, but at
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: the same time, the same general people were making these decisions,
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: you know, the same you still have the same scouting department,
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: the analytics department, the you know, sports performance department, all
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: those places are still involved in this. And so I
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: would say, yeah, we don't know the answer to that question.
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: They did not right away make him the permanent GM,
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: but it is they the Nationals do have a precedent
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: of promoting someone to that role in this situation.
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: And hey, the Rockies had Bill Schmid as the interim
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: quite a bit of go and he's still running. I mean,
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: maybe not for much longer, but he's been running for
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: a long time in that role.
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: So it is possible.
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: But you could also make that case for any GM
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: that drafts a seventeen year old, and if that seventeen
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: year old does take time, like let's say they don't
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: get up to the show till they're two or twenty three,
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: any GM could be under fire over a five to
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: six year period.
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: But that's what it'll be interesting to see because the
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: great ones don't take that long. Now, he might, but
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: Bobby Witt Junior beat a lot of the college guys
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: from his draft class to the matrix. You know, the
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: great ones CJ. Abrams from that class moved really quick.
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: The great ones at the top of the draft don't
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: take a whole lot of time.
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: Right, that's true. Yeah, Hey, you're seeing those very young
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: call ups. Roman Anthony was Roman Anthon's what twenty two?
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: That? Oh he's twenty three?
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: Now no, I'm right, I thought you were on draft class.
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: Oh, draft class. I'm saying, how old is Roman Anthony?
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: Twenty one? Twenty one? Yeah?
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so when it's so yeah, twenty one, when you're
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: seeing someone like that, he's not twenty two until next May.
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah.
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: If there's a special melt right the way fast exactly cool?
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: All right, last, not on your way out? Give me
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: one more guy you really liked one way or another.
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: Both of you have one ready on our way out.
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: Okay, I'm going to say that the Braves, I know
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: a lot of people complained about their first pick. Then
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: they went out and they took Alix Lodiso, I really
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: like is their second round pick.
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: And then they got Rix McKenzie.
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: Who was probably gonna be a second round pick, I
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: would say, on talent, and they got him I think
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: fourth round and you'll get a lot of money.
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: I kind of liked.
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: You may maybe question the first round pick a little bit,
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: but then you look at what they did long term
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: and it's like, okay, it starts to all that up.
• 27:49
  Speaker 5: I'll go with the last pick of the night of
• 27:51
  Speaker 5: Night one rather with the Dodgers taking Landon vitorick outfeeler
• 27:55
  Speaker 5: in a Cincinnati really loud tool set, with him fresh
• 27:59
  Speaker 5: off a career year, real bat speed consistently generates quality
• 28:03
  Speaker 5: contact to all fields. The batted ball data is really
• 28:07
  Speaker 5: really impressive with Vitoric Chase. It just a seventeen percent
• 28:11
  Speaker 5: clip with advanced swing decisions, and he gets even more
• 28:14
  Speaker 5: aggressive against pitches, you know, kind of in his gozone.
• 28:17
  Speaker 5: You could call it. That would serve him well. He's
• 28:19
  Speaker 5: a plus runner, he knows how to run, he's got
• 28:21
  Speaker 5: an above average arm and right field I mean you
• 28:23
  Speaker 5: just kind of hear me walk through him a little bit.
• 28:25
  Speaker 5: It's a really really fun tool set, and when you
• 28:29
  Speaker 5: when you pair that with the fact that he's going
• 28:31
  Speaker 5: to be in the Dodgers system and under the guys
• 28:33
  Speaker 5: of their player development department, that makes the pick all
• 28:37
  Speaker 5: the all the more intriguing.
• 28:39
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• 28:43
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• 29:06
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