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Tyler Robinson Preliminary Hearing Transcript (Day 4 Part 6) (10/12/26) · The Epstein Chronicles

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  Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome back to the program. In
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  Speaker 1: this episode, we're getting right back to the Tyler Robinson
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  Speaker 1: transcript from day four of the prelim hearings. And we're
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  Speaker 1: once again picking up with the prosecution asking questions. Prosecution.
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  Speaker 1: All right, agent, I'm not going to go through every
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  Speaker 1: single message, but I do want to have you read
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  Speaker 1: aloud certain portions of them. And I apologize to counsel.
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  Speaker 1: These are not actually given a page number. I have
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  Speaker 1: page numbers, but I'm happy to confer that we're on
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  Speaker 1: the same page as we go. So, here we're looking
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  Speaker 1: at page 1 of State Exhibit 16.1. If you could
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  Speaker 1: read a little more, then halfway down, where it begins Wednesday, 11pm,
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  Speaker 1: will you start reading underneath that? Answer, yeah, so this
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  Speaker 1: would have been from Tyler. It says, drop what you're doing,
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  Speaker 1: look under your keyboard. Question, and I apologize. Let me
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  Speaker 1: stop you there. How do you know that that message
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  Speaker 1: would have been from Tyler Robinson? Answer, so any message
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  Speaker 1: in gray would be from Tyler, and the message in
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  Speaker 1: blue would be from Lance. That's just the way the
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  Speaker 1: iPhone distinguishes the messages. And also, Lance, in his interview,
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  Speaker 1: also acknowledges, that's who was saying what. Question, and at
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  Speaker 1: the top, who do we see that this thread is between? Answer,
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  Speaker 1: that's Tyler. Question, alright, sorry to interrupt you, so read
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  Speaker 1: that again. Starting from look under the keyboard. Answer, so
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  Speaker 1: after that, then Lance responds, he says, what? And then
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  Speaker 1: he says, you're joking, right? And then Tyler says, fuck,
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  Speaker 1: I tried to delete that. Question, we could scroll down
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  Speaker 1: to page two, and if you can continue, reading along. Answer, okay,
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  Speaker 1: and Tyler says, I'm still okay, my love, but I'm
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  Speaker 1: stuck in Orem for a little while longer yet. Shouldn't
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  Speaker 1: be long until I can come home, but gotta grab
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  Speaker 1: my rifle still, and to be honest, I had hoped
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  Speaker 1: to keep this secret till I died of old age.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry that I involved you. And then Lance replies,
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  Speaker 1: you aren't the one who did it, right? And Tyler says,
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  Speaker 1: I am. I'm sorry. Lance says, I thought they caught
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  Speaker 1: the person. And then Tyler says, no, they grabbed some
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  Speaker 1: crazy old dude and interrogated someone in similar clothing. I
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  Speaker 1: had planned to grab my rifle from the drop point
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  Speaker 1: shortly after, but most of that side of town got
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  Speaker 1: locked down. It's quiet almost enough to get out, but
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  Speaker 1: there's one vehicle lingering. Question, if you could scroll down
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  Speaker 1: to page three, continue reading. Answer, Lance says, why? And
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  Speaker 1: Tyler says, what did I do it? Why did I
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  Speaker 1: do it? And Lance says, yeah, Tyler says I had
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  Speaker 1: enough of his hatred. Some hate can't be negotiated out.
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  Speaker 1: If I'm able to grab my rifle unseen, I will
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  Speaker 1: have left no evidence. Going to attempt to retrieve it again.
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  Speaker 1: Hopefully they've moved on. I haven't seen anything in the
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  Speaker 1: news about them finding it. We'll update you shortly. We'll
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  Speaker 1: update you by midnight. And then Lance says, all right,
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  Speaker 1: stay safe. How long have you been planning this? Question,
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  Speaker 1: scroll down a bit, please. Answer, and Tyler replies, a
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  Speaker 1: bit over a week, I believe. I can get close
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  Speaker 1: to it, but there's a squad car parked right by it.
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  Speaker 1: I think they already swept that spot, but I don't
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  Speaker 1: want to chance it. Question, we can scroll down to
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  Speaker 1: page four and continue reading about halfway down. I'll stop
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  Speaker 1: you about halfway down. Answer, it says, well, they were
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  Speaker 1: in the spot, but I don't want to chance it
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  Speaker 1: while they were parked right there. If they'd found it,
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  Speaker 1: I'd imagine there would be more commotion. Again, I'm sorry
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  Speaker 1: for roping you into all of this. You shouldn't have
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  Speaker 1: to worry about this. And Lance replies, does anyone else know?
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  Speaker 1: Tyler says, not to my knowledge. Question, all right, I'll
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  Speaker 1: stop you there. Let's move to page five. So this
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  Speaker 1: should be page four. So just scroll down one, please.
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  Speaker 1: And if you could read starting, scroll down a bit more.
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  Speaker 1: If you could read, I don't know, about one third
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  Speaker 1: of the way up, that starts with a yes. Answer, okay,
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  Speaker 1: Tyler says. Guess I'm just sitting in my car watching
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  Speaker 1: reels for another hour, hoping this guy fucks off. Question
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  Speaker 1: and continue. Answer, and Lance says, are you okay still?
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  Speaker 1: And Tyler says, yes. Checking spot again now. We'll update soon,
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  Speaker 1: he continues. The squad car was moved further away enough
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  Speaker 1: that I should be able to move in. I backed
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  Speaker 1: off because I thought I heard footsteps. Maybe a foot patrol.
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  Speaker 1: But the crickets here are so fucking loud. Going to
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  Speaker 1: see if the road closer to campus is open so
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  Speaker 1: I can drive past and check shit out. Probably still
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  Speaker 1: closed off though. Getting worried. Hard to know for sure.
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  Speaker 1: But I'm not finding my rifle. Could be in the
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  Speaker 1: wrong spot, Lance says. Do you think they found it?
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  Speaker 1: And Tyler says, don't know. They haven't published anything if
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  Speaker 1: they have. And then Lance says, why did you leave
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  Speaker 1: it behind? Question, oh sorry, Kimberly, could you scroll down? Answer, originally, also,
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  Speaker 1: does it have a serial number? Question, we could scroll
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  Speaker 1: to page 7, continue reading, I'll stop you on this
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  Speaker 1: page in a little bit. Answer, okay, so Tyler continues, IDK,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, if it had a serial number, but
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  Speaker 1: it wouldn't trace to me, I'd worry about prints. I
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  Speaker 1: had to leave it in a bush, where I changed outfits.
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  Speaker 1: Didn't have the ability or time to bring it with. Question,
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  Speaker 1: and stop there please. And then, if we can go
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  Speaker 1: to the next page, page 8, if you could start
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  Speaker 1: at the top. Answer, okay, so Lance says, Was your
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  Speaker 1: change of clothes there or was that also gone? Or
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  Speaker 1: did you bring those with you originally? Anyway, you could
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  Speaker 1: replace the gun or would he notice? And then Tyler says,
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  Speaker 1: only thing I left was the rifle wrapped in a towel.
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  Speaker 1: I bet that canine sniffed it out. A little snitch
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  Speaker 1: and bastard. Replaced it unlikely. I don't know fully what
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  Speaker 1: the gun was because it was old as shit and
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  Speaker 1: Gramps did some modifying. There was a four digit serial
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  Speaker 1: on it. God only knows who it's registered to. Hopefully
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  Speaker 1: some dead guy who gave it to grandpa. And he continues,
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  Speaker 1: Remember how I was engraving bullets? The fucking messages are
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  Speaker 1: mostly a big meme. If I see notices bulges, UWU
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  Speaker 1: on Fox News, I might have a stroke. Question and
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  Speaker 1: then continue. I'll stop you in a moment. Answer, he says, alright.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to have to leave it. That really sucks.
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  Speaker 1: Question and let me stop you there. And then if
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  Speaker 1: you can go on to the next page, page 9.
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  Speaker 1: And do you see the first blue message we see
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  Speaker 1: on page nine? Can you start there? Answer, yes. So
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  Speaker 1: Lance says, do you need it for hunting? And Tyler says, no,
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  Speaker 1: my dad wanted to use it. Use a high caliber
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  Speaker 1: for the rifle hunt. Judging from today, I say Graham's
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  Speaker 1: gun does just fine. IDK. I think that was a
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  Speaker 1: 2K scope. Lance says, geez. And then Tyler says, OMW home,
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  Speaker 1: three and a half hours. Lance says, drive safe. And
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  Speaker 1: then Tyler says, delete the exchange. Question, and I'll stop
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  Speaker 1: you right there. And then, sorry, we're on page 9,
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  Speaker 1: if we can scroll to page 15. And then the
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  Speaker 1: second grade message on page 15, if you could start there. Answer, okay,
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  Speaker 1: so this is Tyler. I'm going to turn myself in willingly.
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  Speaker 1: One of my neighbors here is a deputy for the sheriff.
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  Speaker 1: We hope to keep things sort of quiet here. Question,
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  Speaker 1: and then I'll stop you there. Okay, and we can
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  Speaker 1: remove the exhibit from the screen. Thank you. We mentioned
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  Speaker 1: a Celebrite extraction of Mr. Twig's phone. Do you know
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  Speaker 1: what time the last text was sent? Answer, yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: recall it was just before 8 p.m. on September 11th.
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  Speaker 1: I think it was 7.42 p.m. is my recollection. Answer,
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, September 11th. Answer, my recollection. Question, I'm sorry,
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  Speaker 1: September 11th. Answer, yes. Question, would September 11th make sense
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  Speaker 1: or are you saying September 11th? Answer, so September 11th
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  Speaker 1: is when he turned himself in. It would have been
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  Speaker 1: September 11th, yeah. Question, okay, thank you. Question, all right,
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to show you or just show for the
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  Speaker 1: witness state exhibit 16-2. Let me know when you see that. Answer,
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  Speaker 1: I can see it. Question, do you recognize this? Answer,
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  Speaker 1: I do, yep. Question, what is it? Answer, this is
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  Speaker 1: just more photos of Lance's phone. Oh, sorry, these are. Sorry,
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  Speaker 1: I had a blank. Go with your question, please. Question,
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  Speaker 1: I'm just asking what it is. So you said it's
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  Speaker 1: a photo of Lance's phone. Do you know if that's
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  Speaker 1: from the same time period as the exhibit we just
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  Speaker 1: looked at? Answer, yes. Question, and what is it of? Answer,
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  Speaker 1: these are Discord messages that Lance had talked about. Question,
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  Speaker 1: how do you know that? Answer, so Lance, in the
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  Speaker 1: first interview with the FBI, shows the photos were taken
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  Speaker 1: by Agent Larson, and then these images are shown to
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  Speaker 1: Lance during his second interview, and he confirms that these
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  Speaker 1: are the same messages, and this is photos of Lance's phone. Question,
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  Speaker 1: you mentioned that Agent Larson took the photos. Do you
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  Speaker 1: know if he's the same agent? that took the photos
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  Speaker 1: of this exhibit 16-2? Answer, yeah, same agent. Question, and
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  Speaker 1: you spoke with him to confirm that. Answer, yes, I did. Question,
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  Speaker 1: are you aware if Mr. Twiggs is actually part of
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  Speaker 1: the Discord thread? Answer, yes, he is part of it.
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  Speaker 1: In this section, he doesn't reply to it, but he
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  Speaker 1: does state in his statement that he was part of
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  Speaker 1: that thread. Question, does he identify whether Mr. Robinson is
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  Speaker 1: part of that thread? Answer, he does. Question, and when
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  Speaker 1: did that happen? Answer, he identifies that in his first
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  Speaker 1: interview with the two FBI agents, and then he again
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  Speaker 1: confirms it in his second interview. Question, and did Mr.
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  Speaker 1: Twiggs say what username on Discord Mr. Robinson used, at
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  Speaker 1: least with respect to this thread? Answer, yeah, it's the
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  Speaker 1: Tyler IKUOM icon. Question, and is Exhibit 16.2 a fair
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  Speaker 1: and accurate representation of that Discord thread? Answer, yes, it is. Question,
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  Speaker 1: as part of your investigation, did law enforcement send a
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  Speaker 1: subpoena to Discord? Answer, yes, they did. Question, were these
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  Speaker 1: messages recovered via that subpoena? Answer, they were. Question, did
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  Speaker 1: you review that? Answer, yes, I did. Question, and in
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  Speaker 1: States Exhibit 16.2, that is before you... when is the
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  Speaker 1: first message from Tyler sent answer 757 question and it
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  Speaker 1: says yesterday do you have any knowledge of what day
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  Speaker 1: that would have been answer yes this would have been
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  Speaker 1: September 11th question so Tyler sends the first message that
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  Speaker 1: you're seeing on exhibit 16.2 September 11th at 757 answer
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  Speaker 1: yes that's correct Alright folks, we're going to wrap up
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  Speaker 1: right here, and in the next episode, we're going to
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  Speaker 1: pick up where we left off. All the information that
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