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Chuck & Buck 2-12 Hour 4: Extra Roundtable! Mike Sando and one last thing! · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 1: Nine o'clock hour here on this Thursday.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, we could not let go our final twelfth man
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  Speaker 2: roundtable of the football season. Now that the Seahawks are
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  Speaker 2: Super Bowl champions, and they wouldn't have got there without
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  Speaker 2: the analysis of Greg Bell and Hugh Millen all season long.
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  Speaker 2: It really was a key factor that was mine.
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  Speaker 3: You didn't ask me what my factor was championship I
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  Speaker 3: make with Donald schnyder.
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  Speaker 2: Good.
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  Speaker 3: Good job by those guys, for sure. Yeah, I'd say
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  Speaker 3: above average. Yeah, but you didn't get there without Breed
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  Speaker 3: Love and Greg Bell.
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  Speaker 2: That's right. Their analysis carried the day on everything as
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  Speaker 2: much as John Snyder. Yeah, probably would have been like
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  Speaker 2: a I don't know, like a ten and seventeen without them.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the difference maker. Difference makers. So we've decided,
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  Speaker 3: well why not on the last one. We got more
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  Speaker 3: stuff to talk about. We haven't even got into like
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  Speaker 3: where does the team go from here? And so we're
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  Speaker 3: gonna do one more segment with Greg and with Hugh
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  Speaker 3: here on Chuck and Buck. Let me first tell you
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  Speaker 3: that money is your keyword. Enter that at ninety three
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  Speaker 3: three KJR dot com. So we haven't discussed JSN. We
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  Speaker 3: can get through the last roundtable without discussing JSN and Hugh,
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  Speaker 3: I'll get the conversation started with you. I mean, just
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  Speaker 3: how fabulous a year he had. But also you won
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  Speaker 3: a Super Bowl with him not having the big statistical game,
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  Speaker 3: and it does I don't know if you're if you're
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  Speaker 3: worried about stuff like this at all, you do wonder
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  Speaker 3: Patriots didn't give the NFL like a cheat code on
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  Speaker 3: how to defend JSN in the Super Bowl?
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  Speaker 2: Did they?
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  Speaker 4: No?
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  Speaker 2: I don't think so. Look he he Sam Darnold had,
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  Speaker 2: you know, thirty eight pass attempts. So if you look
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  Speaker 2: and say to me, all right, and you know watched
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  Speaker 2: all the tape.
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  Speaker 4: I watched it initially and then I rewatched it with
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  Speaker 4: only the eye to JSN. On that very question. He
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  Speaker 4: was wearing green shoes. It was easy to find him.
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  Speaker 4: You know, we know his body style anyways. But but
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  Speaker 4: if you said to me, present a video evidence that
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  Speaker 4: supports the conclusion that the Patriots didn't give Willy nilly
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  Speaker 4: whether or not number eleven was round.
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  Speaker 2: I could. I could do that.
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  Speaker 4: I could show you signs where he's for example, he
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  Speaker 4: goes in motion and Christian Gonzalez is you know, over
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  Speaker 4: the outside receiver and then JSN comes over, and then
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  Speaker 4: Gonzalez was the whitest guy on the defense. They pop
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  Speaker 4: somebody out, you know, Cooper Cup. I'll say he just
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  Speaker 4: widens out with Cooper Cup, he doesn't, you know, like
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  Speaker 4: there's a lot of evidences that they didn't pay any attention.
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  Speaker 4: But then if you said, okay, is their video evidence
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  Speaker 4: to support the conclusion that they that they knew they
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  Speaker 4: were really trying to squeeze squeeze on JSN. Yeah, you
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  Speaker 4: can do that too. They traveled Christian Gonzales with him
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  Speaker 4: a number of times in man and man they squeezed
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  Speaker 4: in zone. For example, do you remember when Cup caught
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  Speaker 4: that ball over on the sideline on the first ser
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  Speaker 4: You know that we could have should have been reviewed
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  Speaker 4: twenty three yarder on that one.
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  Speaker 2: You got JSN running the thin post on the corner.
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  Speaker 4: A lot of times a free safety will come top
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  Speaker 4: down to help double that over route and leave the
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  Speaker 4: corner one on one on the essentially the deep look. No,
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  Speaker 4: they they double team JSN and they singled on Cup
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  Speaker 4: on that one. There was another time where they played
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  Speaker 4: a three D Who's whoever? Twenty five is? I planned
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  Speaker 4: to look him Jones, I think, yeah, that's right. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: you could see where where JSN is running a buzz
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  Speaker 4: and Mark Jones has the flat underneath it and he
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  Speaker 4: is screaming outside to get underneath JSN squeezing to them
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  Speaker 4: fifty three for the Patriots. You know on a on
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  Speaker 4: a rock concept that the Seahawks have been very successful
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  Speaker 4: with all years. Some people call it wraps, some people
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  Speaker 4: call it hammer. But you have a little hits at
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  Speaker 4: five yards and then you run js in on like
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  Speaker 4: a ten twelve yard dig route. You see the fifty
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  Speaker 4: three instead of he is squeezing back into the hole
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  Speaker 4: to so its zone coverage. But the defenders they're looking around,
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  Speaker 4: oh number eleven and in their positioning within the zone,
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  Speaker 4: they're they're they're getting to JSN and then another you
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  Speaker 4: know one time balls on the right hash they're playing
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  Speaker 4: Tampa to. The Seahawks have three receivers to the to
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  Speaker 4: the field. The middle linebackers should go to the three
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  Speaker 4: receiver side, not the two receiver side. But the mic
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  Speaker 4: linebackers stand right there on the HASH looking over it's
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  Speaker 4: it's it's literally unsound. But they're looking at the JSN side.
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  Speaker 4: So those would be examples of zone coverage where you're
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  Speaker 4: squeezing to JSN. There's a couple of times where you're
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  Speaker 4: just opening and Donald didn't. Both the times on Shaheed
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  Speaker 4: on those deep balls that you know, those long foul
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  Speaker 4: balls that we didn't quite hit on, JSN was wide open.
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  Speaker 4: And then of course there was the touchdown at the
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  Speaker 4: end of the second quarter that was I would say Donald,
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  Speaker 4: if I'm quarterback coaching Donald, that was his worst player.
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  Speaker 4: You know, he had a touchdown right there, Jaysn beat
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  Speaker 4: Gonzales across his face, beautiful scheming balls on the right
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  Speaker 4: hash FTB formation of boundary. You got one on one,
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  Speaker 4: I mean a canyon in there, and and Donald had
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  Speaker 4: a poor pass that was almost intercepted. So so I
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  Speaker 4: think there's a variety of all that. I don't think
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  Speaker 4: that there's any blue print out there that the paches
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  Speaker 4: put on tape to stop JSN for twenty twenty six.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think anybody's gonna stop him anytime soon. Greg.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, Witherspoon and JSN can be given extensions this offseason.
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  Speaker 2: Are they going to hop right on that because they
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  Speaker 2: look pretty special?
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  Speaker 5: I don't think right away that's not the priority of
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  Speaker 5: the offseason. First of all, not every team has Christian Gonzalez.
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  Speaker 5: He was tremendous. Yeah, that should have been a touchdown
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  Speaker 5: on the back, play at the back, third down play
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  Speaker 5: at the backside, and late in half. But he said
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  Speaker 5: Patriots two touchdowns should have been seventeen to nothing at
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  Speaker 5: halftime the one he broke up the Shaheed as well.
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  Speaker 5: The Patriots started the game with Gonzalez tracking On the
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  Speaker 5: first drive, Smith and jigball all over the field and
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  Speaker 5: Donald didn't throw to him one time on that eight
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  Speaker 5: play drive for the field goal. The second drive, they
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  Speaker 5: Patriots did not have the Gonzalez in man, and Donald
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  Speaker 5: threw to Smith and Jigg with three straight times, two
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  Speaker 5: incompletions and a completion, and they punted a three and out.
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  Speaker 5: Gonzalez was very good in that game, and that's part
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  Speaker 5: of the reason game, Yes, and not every team has
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  Speaker 5: a guy like that. They have other priorities on re
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  Speaker 5: signing Shaheed, what they're gonna do with Kenneth Walker. McDonald
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  Speaker 5: really likes Kobe Bryant starting in the deep middle of
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  Speaker 5: his defense. His contract is also up. Those are the
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  Speaker 5: priorities they know they have Smith and Jigba and he
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  Speaker 5: wants to stay. They know they can do that. It
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  Speaker 5: is true that they're habitually entering the final year of
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  Speaker 5: their contractors. When they re up their foundational guys and
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  Speaker 5: Smith and Jigba will never command more money at this AE.
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  Speaker 5: He's still only twenty three years old, he's eighteen hundred
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  Speaker 5: yard receiver. He will he could get a two hundred
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  Speaker 5: million dollar contract. The more they're gonna get you heat done.
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  Speaker 5: I think that's the top priority that might happen. It
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  Speaker 5: could happen any day that I think is going to
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  Speaker 5: be the first offseason contract you're going to hear about.
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  Speaker 2: Interesting.
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  Speaker 5: They when they traded for him from the Saints, gave
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  Speaker 5: him two third day picks. They had already talked about
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  Speaker 5: what money it would take to keep him as part
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  Speaker 5: of the trade negotiation, so they this is not new.
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  Speaker 5: They they're going to The more interesting to me is
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  Speaker 5: what they're going to do with Walker.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I have the guy. My gut failing is he's
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  Speaker 2: not gonna be a Seahawk next year.
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  Speaker 5: Your thought, well, the dynamics of having a new agent,
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  Speaker 5: a big time agent with big time clients. David Canter
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  Speaker 5: and the Rsports Group suggest Canter is going to say,
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  Speaker 5: the Seahawks had their chance. They had all this season
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  Speaker 5: to reup you. They had before this season to reup you.
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  Speaker 5: And now it's five to six weeks from four weeks
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  Speaker 5: less than before the free ency market opens. You want
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  Speaker 5: to sign now or the Seahawks you want to give
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  Speaker 5: him a deal? No, you had your chance. I say
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  Speaker 5: this all the time. The NFL player lives and breathes
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  Speaker 5: football from the time their little kids in two A
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  Speaker 5: days and captains practices for this second contract. They play
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  Speaker 5: with pain killers, they play with injuries to get to this,
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  Speaker 5: the second NFL contract. And when it gets this close
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  Speaker 5: to the free agent market, when you can have multiple bidders,
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  Speaker 5: why not drive your price up. Kenneth Walker will never
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  Speaker 5: be worth more than he is now at age twenty
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  Speaker 5: five at a position that breaks down. So it seems
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  Speaker 5: like if he goes to the market, he will leave
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  Speaker 5: and the Seahawks won't be able to afford to keep
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  Speaker 5: him even if they wanted to. Pretty much they had
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  Speaker 5: their chance on Kenneth Walker. But yeah, I think she
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  Speaker 5: Heat's priority won here and now if Walker leaves, Zach
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  Speaker 5: Charbonnay is not going to be ready for maybe not
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  Speaker 5: the beginning of training camp, maybe not the beginning of
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  Speaker 5: the season. They kind of paying themselves in a corner
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  Speaker 5: there by this old management and not committing to Walker by.
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  Speaker 2: Now Walker Shaheed they need to be back next year.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I think she heat is an interesting topic because
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  Speaker 4: on the one hand, you know, he's two players, right,
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  Speaker 4: he's his special teams contributions, that's inarguable, right, that that's
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  Speaker 4: really valuable. And and you know, I think many have
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  Speaker 4: made the point that without the punp return against the Rams,
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  Speaker 4: maybe all this never happens. Yeah, so he is he
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  Speaker 4: is a deadly weapon in special teams as a wide receiver.
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  Speaker 4: I know, going into the NFC Championship Game, he had
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  Speaker 4: he had played ten games for the Seahawks, had one
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  Speaker 4: hundred and eighty eight yards as a receiver, and that
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  Speaker 4: would be if over seventeen games, that would be three
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  Speaker 4: and twenty yards. Now, he had the long long ball
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  Speaker 4: in the first drive. That was the first time he
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  Speaker 4: had a completion over twenty one yards air yards in
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  Speaker 4: the entire his entire tenure with the Seahawks. In the
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  Speaker 4: Super Bowl, he then comes back and and he you know,
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  Speaker 4: he has he has two yards receiving. So I would
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  Speaker 4: say he is he is a below the median wide receiver.
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  Speaker 4: And that's even considering his impact and speed and and
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  Speaker 4: and how he can open things up. So so I
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  Speaker 4: think he's just kind of kind of mid as a receiver,
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  Speaker 4: and that might even be charitable. He doesn't track the ball, great,
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  Speaker 4: he you know, he doesn't catch contested balls, great, you know.
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  Speaker 4: I just I think I think being a wide receiver
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  Speaker 4: as instinctive as it is to JSN, it's that uninstinctive
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  Speaker 4: to him.
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  Speaker 2: Now.
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  Speaker 4: I don't want to say this, you know, three days after,
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  Speaker 4: four days after the super Bowl, but you know you're
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  Speaker 4: asking me as an analyst, my opinion, my my take
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  Speaker 4: on him. I think there's a very clear distinction. Uh So,
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  Speaker 4: if you're paying him all that, if he's that big
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  Speaker 4: of a priority, it has to be on his contributions
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  Speaker 4: as a special teams guy, because I think that the
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  Speaker 4: contributions as a wide receiver were disappointing.
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  Speaker 2: We did spend a lot of time though, back in
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  Speaker 2: training camp talking about where's the guy that takes the
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  Speaker 2: lid off the defense, that keeps the defense honest and
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  Speaker 2: if you've got jes yeah, yeah, Horton and still maybe
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  Speaker 2: it's then and maybe it's not you Heat, I don't know.
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  Speaker 5: And well that's why they would keep Horton and she
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  Speaker 5: Heat and Horton be the more polished receiver and she
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  Speaker 5: he'd be the All Pro Pro Bowl compound.
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  Speaker 4: Well, if you just say, you know, you've got to
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  Speaker 4: be able to play at the eleven personnel, you know,
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  Speaker 4: playing with temp, you know, four wides, that doesn't Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: you need depth, but but you have to have three
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  Speaker 4: receivers on the field that that you that you feel
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  Speaker 4: can make a contribution. I'm wondering if Cooper Cup comes back,
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  Speaker 4: you know, I think I think that he's kind of
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  Speaker 4: just a guy. So so I think Tory Horton has
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  Speaker 4: a real opportunity if you can stay healthy. This is
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  Speaker 4: something that dogged him at Colorado State, Like just stay
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  Speaker 4: in hell. I've never heard of a shin injury taken
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  Speaker 4: out a guy for half. I mean, I've heard of
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  Speaker 4: shin splints. I've never like, I've never heard of like
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  Speaker 4: did you have surgery? Did did did you break your
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  Speaker 4: tibby and fibula?
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  Speaker 2: Is a rod in your shin?
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  Speaker 6: Like?
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  Speaker 4: How does the shin hold you out? I don't know
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  Speaker 4: I'm ignorant to this, so I don't it is so
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  Speaker 4: I don't know what's going on there, but but I
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  Speaker 4: you know, you've got.
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  Speaker 2: To be able to play in eleven personnel.
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  Speaker 4: You have to have three receivers out there, and I
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  Speaker 4: think there's a lot of questions about who those guys are.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Cup is an interesting question.
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  Speaker 5: Cup Friday is an interesting day. Five days after the
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  Speaker 5: Super Bowl is a trigger date for veteran hearing tease.
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  Speaker 5: Cooper Cup gets nine million dollars tomorrow. If he wants
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  Speaker 5: to come back, the Seahawks will absolutely have him back.
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  Speaker 5: But if I could see him thirty two going on
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  Speaker 5: thirty three years old, with three young children, two Super
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  Speaker 5: Bowl rings of Triumphant, returned to his home state, maybe
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  Speaker 5: he retires. I don't. I've got no indication he would,
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  Speaker 5: but it wouldn't completely shock me. What a week for
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  Speaker 5: Sam Darnold, huh, Disneyland opening and raising canes fetten.
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  Speaker 7: Everybody loves him. He's gonna make seventeen and a half
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  Speaker 7: million dollars tomorrow on a new guarantee. If the Seahawks
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  Speaker 7: wanted to restruck the ever been busy John Schneider was
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  Speaker 7: red solo Cups yesterday. Wasn't exactly doing contracts yesterday.
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  Speaker 5: But if they wanted to give a restructured new deal
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  Speaker 5: to Darnald they would probably have to do by tomorrow.
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  Speaker 5: Otherwise they're committing seventy and a half million dollars in
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  Speaker 5: a guarantee, a roster guarantee by tomorrow. That's probably not
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  Speaker 5: gonna happen. He's gonna get a seventeen and a half
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  Speaker 5: million and then they may restructure him down the road
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  Speaker 5: for a deal beyond his deal ends after next season.
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  Speaker 5: Suddenly it was only a three year contract. Abe Lucas
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  Speaker 5: gets seven million dollars tomorrow, Ernest Jones gets five million,
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  Speaker 5: to Marcus Lawrence gets five million, Jaron Reid gets two million.
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  Speaker 5: Does Jared Reid come back? Going on each thirty three?
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  Speaker 5: So right away. One of the downfalls of being the
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  Speaker 5: longest team to play is that you jump right into
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  Speaker 5: the off season. The damn combine is I'm supposed to
• 14:23
  Speaker 5: be Indianapolis.
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  Speaker 2: In eight days.
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  Speaker 5: You think I want to be there right now? I
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  Speaker 5: mean this, They don't want to be there either.
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  Speaker 2: Very romantic destination if you'd like.
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  Speaker 5: She was no part of Indiana And in February and
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  Speaker 5: I'll tell you about.
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  Speaker 2: By the way, the only thing negotiating a new contract
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  Speaker 2: with John Schneider yesterday was his liver. That's that's what
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  Speaker 2: was going on there. We have to get in the
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  Speaker 2: offensive coordinator conversation. I'll start with you Greg on this one.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe Cooper Cup becomes the OC next year. But I
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  Speaker 2: went on a couple of different barnstorming interviews last week
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  Speaker 2: to talk about the Seahawks Super Bowl in various cities,
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  Speaker 2: and they are really concerned for the Seahawks that they're
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  Speaker 2: going to lose their OC and the whole thing could
• 15:08
  Speaker 2: come crumbling down around the organization. But how big of
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  Speaker 2: a deal is it that Clint Kubiak's moving on and
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  Speaker 2: who's replacing him.
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  Speaker 5: It is a big deal. And the players loved him,
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  Speaker 5: and they loved that. The results speak for themselves. Darnald
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  Speaker 5: loved him. I was told Monday at the MVP Coaches
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  Speaker 5: press conference in San Francisco that they are going to
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  Speaker 5: do their first priorities to hire internally and promote someone
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  Speaker 5: for that job. Who's that someone? Jake Pets has a
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  Speaker 5: little bit pass game coordinates, a little bit of play
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  Speaker 5: calling responsibility. In the past, Andrew Genoko, I'm told, is
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  Speaker 5: on a two year contract. Unlike some position coaches, he
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  Speaker 5: has one year beyond this one. He's thirty seven years old.
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  Speaker 5: He followed Kubiak, he was with them in the Saints
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  Speaker 5: and followed them to Seattle. If they wanted continuity with Donald,
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  Speaker 5: they would promote Jenoko at age thirty seven at the
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  Speaker 5: play college job. He's never done it before at this
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  Speaker 5: level or any level. Those are two of the primary
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  Speaker 5: in house candidates I mentioned. I think just as important
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  Speaker 5: as that John Benton stays in this role no matter
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  Speaker 5: who they choose at the offensive coordinator spot. But they're
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  Speaker 5: gonna They're already starting to interview internally this week for
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  Speaker 5: that offensive coordinator job, and it would not surprise me
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  Speaker 5: if it's either Jake Petzs or Andrew Jinoku.
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  Speaker 2: I worried should we be about losing Kubiak From a
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  Speaker 2: quarterbacks perspective.
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  Speaker 4: I'm pretty darn concerned. I'm very concerned, you know. And
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  Speaker 4: when you talk about hiring from within, I'm consider the
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  Speaker 4: Lions last season. They were fifteen and two with Ben Johnson.
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  Speaker 4: Everything's following. They're setting records all over the place. Ben
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  Speaker 4: Johnson goes to the bears. They say, well, we got
• 16:45
  Speaker 4: to hire from within, right for all the reasons that
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  Speaker 4: are obvious and that we've been discussing right here, they
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  Speaker 4: promote John Morton, and everything, you know, just totally unravels,
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  Speaker 4: and halfway through the year you got Dan Campbell. He's
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  Speaker 4: calling the place right.
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  Speaker 2: So hiring from.
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  Speaker 4: Within, uh, you know, it doesn't just ensure that everything's
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  Speaker 4: going to maintain that continuity. And we could cite many
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  Speaker 4: other examples. I just would say that I put my
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  Speaker 4: trust in Mike McDonald. Mike McDonald knows enough about you know. Look,
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  Speaker 4: he he you know, he made the decision for Grubb.
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: He has a vision not only about his defense but
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: about his offense. If he's got a guy who has
• 17:26
  Speaker 4: particularly a guy who's been in house that he has
• 17:28
  Speaker 4: coached with, he knows that guy's acumen in all likelihood.
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: It's not to say that that he couldn't make a mistake.
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: But that's the basis for me as a fan to
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: have a little bit of ease about the matter, is
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: to just say, well, Mike McDonald's gonna have to sign
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: off on whoever they bring in, either from within or
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: from without.
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, what about Mouse Davis? You want to bring the
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: run and shoot back to be the quarterback coach. Yeah,
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: we just remake everything. Yeah, Jack party, you know, let's
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: bring back the run and shoot. That would be a
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: nice t bet you McDonald would love that. All right, gentlemen, Well,
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: phenomenal year. Thank you both so very much. I know
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: that people look forward to Thursdays at eight o'clock all
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: football season long. It's because of the two of you,
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: uh and uh, and so we appreciate you taking the
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: time out of your busy schedules to join us. It's
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: been a great year, a super Bowl year. And of
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: course we'll start negotiating with you for next season immediately.
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: That's how I appreciate you, appreciating you, appreciating us, and
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: and thank you. What a arride, what a year. Let's uh,
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: let's try and go get two. Yeah, and then it's
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: never three's never been done. Yeah, Greg, Greg, every.
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: Single day, work every day that's on Greg's vacation.
• 18:52
  Speaker 5: Oh, that's fun. I'm sure I'll talk to you tomorrow.
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: That's true. That's true. Yeah, we'll talk to you tomorrow. Greg.
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: Well that I don't know.
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: Why you said.
• 19:00
  Speaker 5: I don't know why we're saying goodbye. I just always
• 19:03
  Speaker 5: were going to laugh season.
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: It was as a matter of fact, could you come
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: on tonight? That'd be great, A special seven tomorrow. Greg,
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: that's right, Yeah, I.
• 19:14
  Speaker 5: Hope you're up to hear that.
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: Thank you. All right, The twelfth Man round Table comes
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: to an end for another season.
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: Mike Sando.
• 19:22
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• 19:38
  Speaker 1: Oh, good morning to you.
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, a little extended roundtable action for you here on
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: this Thursday. And why wouldn't we Why wouldn't we on
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: the very last episode with Hugh and Greg?
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: I don't know, it would not make any sense. I mean,
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: we've made poor decisions on the show before myself.
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but you ain't adding you to the show. Yeah,
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I think that was I think it worked
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: out well.
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: It was my decision I had they offered. I said, yes,
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: it was a poor decision on all parts.
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: All right, all right, Well the point is somebody really
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: made a bad decision. Yes, yes, multiple people did. All
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: right joining us now on the program another single tier,
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: even though we'll probably bug him in a couple of weeks.
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: Goodbye to our NFL Insider, our final official conversation of
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: the season with and the Athletics NFL Insider Mike Sando.
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: Good morning, Mike Man.
• 20:33
  Speaker 8: It was great seeing you guys down there in San Francisco.
• 20:36
  Speaker 8: That was one of my favorite things was just seeing people,
• 20:41
  Speaker 8: you know that you talked to, but just seeing them
• 20:43
  Speaker 8: being around people was really great.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: And by the way, you looked like younger than the
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: last time I saw you. What kind of drugs are
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: you on?
• 20:50
  Speaker 8: Big regimen? Big regimen? Yeah, I have a full time staff.
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 20:54
  Speaker 8: Every morning starts out with a couple hour massage and
• 20:56
  Speaker 8: then to the cucumbers over the eyes.
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: You know, for a while, I think you're getting those
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: Brad Pitt Johnny Depp Hollywood drugs. That's what I think
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: you're getting.
• 21:05
  Speaker 8: Absolutely, it's a huge regimen, no fun. Hopefully this is
• 21:09
  Speaker 8: his payback for you know, I was always that guy
• 21:11
  Speaker 8: who looked like he was eight years old until he
• 21:13
  Speaker 8: was thirty, you know, and just for you know, you
• 21:16
  Speaker 8: always hated it back then, you know, I could barely
• 21:19
  Speaker 8: grow a beard in college. You know, my kids sees
• 21:21
  Speaker 8: me now that I can't even really grow a great one.
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: So uh now it all makes sense?
• 21:26
  Speaker 8: Yeah, may it all makes sense?
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: Maybe I got some lucky uh you know whatever. Yeah,
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: And for some reason, I think most people when they
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: see your face don't think you're six foot five. I
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: knew that, but not a lot of that.
• 21:38
  Speaker 8: That's kind of a thing. Yeah, I think we all have.
• 21:41
  Speaker 8: We all you know, just sort of picture everyone kind
• 21:43
  Speaker 8: of being five to ten or whatever the average is.
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 21:45
  Speaker 8: So yeah, when one of the funny stories years ago,
• 21:48
  Speaker 8: I had been friends with Mike Reese, who go was
• 21:50
  Speaker 8: the Patriots for ESPN. You know, we we we've been
• 21:53
  Speaker 8: friends on the phone for like five years. And at
• 21:55
  Speaker 8: the Houston super Bowl, he was coming out of an
• 21:57
  Speaker 8: elevator with John Clayton, you know, who was a friend
• 21:59
  Speaker 8: of both of ours, and we recognized each other's voice,
• 22:03
  Speaker 8: and I'm like, you know, he's like, I'm like a
• 22:05
  Speaker 8: foot and half tallering him. So we had a big laugh. Like,
• 22:07
  Speaker 8: you know, neither one of us envisioned I didn't envision
• 22:10
  Speaker 8: him being a point guard. He didn't think I was
• 22:11
  Speaker 8: a power forward. So you know, it is what it.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: Is, Well, it was it was Gray see and you
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: and I got to spend a little time with you
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: on the air and that was terrific.
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: So what did you think of the Super Bowl?
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: Give us your analysis of what you watched Sunday from
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: the Seahawks and Patriots.
• 22:30
  Speaker 8: You know, it couldn't have gone more to plan. This
• 22:32
  Speaker 8: is exactly what should have happened in the game. Seattle
• 22:35
  Speaker 8: was just a better team and the only way that
• 22:37
  Speaker 8: they could lose the game, in my opinion, was if
• 22:40
  Speaker 8: they screwed it up or if the if the Patriots
• 22:43
  Speaker 8: had something up their sleeve. You know, they were able
• 22:45
  Speaker 8: to turn the momentum with with a trick play or
• 22:50
  Speaker 8: a reverse of some kind and just sort of get
• 22:53
  Speaker 8: it going. And but to me, there was just this
• 22:56
  Speaker 8: was the great year to be the NFC team. I
• 22:59
  Speaker 8: think there's a lot of teams that would have beat
• 23:00
  Speaker 8: this Patriot team, and it was an unusual year that way.
• 23:04
  Speaker 8: Seattle wanted Super Bowl to me by beaten the Rams
• 23:06
  Speaker 8: and even the forty nine ers.
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: When did this season turned for you to where you
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: thought this squad was was a Super Bowl contender? Did
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: you think it at the beginning of the year was
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: it halfway through where.
• 23:19
  Speaker 8: I thought, Actually, when they lost to the Rams the
• 23:22
  Speaker 8: first time and it had all those turnovers and and
• 23:25
  Speaker 8: almost you know, almost.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: Won the game.
• 23:27
  Speaker 8: Anyway, I thought, oh, that is that is an unusual type.
• 23:32
  Speaker 8: You have to be really good to have that happen,
• 23:34
  Speaker 8: because I knew the Rams were good. So so that
• 23:36
  Speaker 8: would go back to week eleven and then I think
• 23:40
  Speaker 8: you really got the feeling for sure. There was a
• 23:44
  Speaker 8: period there where they just beat the Vikings and the
• 23:46
  Speaker 8: Falcons like they beat them like, you know, sixty something
• 23:50
  Speaker 8: to nine over a two week period, and I was like, Okay,
• 23:53
  Speaker 8: that's a real team. When you when you're blowing out people,
• 23:56
  Speaker 8: that's hard to do. Like you're blowing out people. That's
• 23:59
  Speaker 8: what the really good teams do. I think the five
• 24:01
  Speaker 8: team did that some you know, obviously the thirteen and
• 24:04
  Speaker 8: fourteen teams did that. So that's kind of when you know,
• 24:07
  Speaker 8: when you got that, you're leading the league in point
• 24:09
  Speaker 8: differential and you're deep end of the season and you
• 24:11
  Speaker 8: just crush the bad teams, I mean, you're going to
• 24:15
  Speaker 8: be something good.
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: Mike sando Er NFL insider, joining us here on Thursday,
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: as he has whole football season long, and I know
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: you like putting things in historical perspective, and I like
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: getting your perspective on these things, and so I would
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: just I would offer that nobody in my lifetime has
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: touched for one season the nineteen eighty five Bears defense.
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: I think the Seahawks Legion to Boom defense. When you
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: consider how statistically dominated, the dominating they were over four years.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: I mean, maybe there's a real great argument that that's
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: the best defense of all time, But for one game,
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: or at least for three quarters considering the stage, have
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: you ever seen a defense play that Well.
• 24:58
  Speaker 8: Probably not, because it wasn't like they were getting You
• 25:00
  Speaker 8: do sometimes see like if you get a bunch of
• 25:02
  Speaker 8: turnovers and pick sixes, that can really get you know,
• 25:04
  Speaker 8: out on you. So they weren't really doing that. They
• 25:07
  Speaker 8: were just completely putting a blanket, a wet blanket over
• 25:09
  Speaker 8: them and smothering them. And they had no concerns. They're
• 25:12
  Speaker 8: kicking field goals, not that they had fourth and ones
• 25:14
  Speaker 8: on the field goal, but they're not even a thought
• 25:16
  Speaker 8: of going for it, right, I just put on a
• 25:18
  Speaker 8: nunder three. Once they got to nine, it was over
• 25:20
  Speaker 8: seventy eight yards through three quarters.
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: Crazy that may be the best.
• 25:25
  Speaker 8: In the history of the Super Bowl. It certainly is
• 25:26
  Speaker 8: this century. I was able to look at that, so yeah,
• 25:29
  Speaker 8: they have to still prove, you know. I guess the
• 25:31
  Speaker 8: one thing is the Rams did have their number the
• 25:33
  Speaker 8: last couple of times offensively, so you know, that is
• 25:36
  Speaker 8: an interesting component going into next season with Stafford coming back,
• 25:40
  Speaker 8: and we heard Leonard Williams's coming back, a lot of
• 25:41
  Speaker 8: the guys coming back, so you know, it's kind of
• 25:44
  Speaker 8: like that eighty five Bear team gave up thirty eight
• 25:47
  Speaker 8: to the Dolphins, remember they I think they did. Yeah,
• 25:50
  Speaker 8: they lost thirty eight twenty four to the Dolphins, So
• 25:53
  Speaker 8: it doesn't really if they've done it twice in the
• 25:56
  Speaker 8: same division. You know, I think that was the only
• 25:58
  Speaker 8: time they allowed even more than twenty eight points twenty
• 26:00
  Speaker 8: eight in the openers, so it's a different era. The
• 26:03
  Speaker 8: offense's rules are way better that team that eighty five
• 26:06
  Speaker 8: Bears will have ten points in the whole playoffs, four
• 26:09
  Speaker 8: forty six to ten, so that is a standard by
• 26:12
  Speaker 8: which they are all still measured. I think this one
• 26:15
  Speaker 8: can have a chance to do what the Pete Carroll
• 26:19
  Speaker 8: defense did, but they are older on their defensive front.
• 26:25
  Speaker 8: So that's one area where John Schender has been great at.
• 26:28
  Speaker 8: Adding with Clyth Aprils to Mike Bennett's the uh you know,
• 26:31
  Speaker 8: DeMarcus Lawrence, Leonard Williams. They're going to be on it
• 26:35
  Speaker 8: and they're going to make get guys that fit. But
• 26:36
  Speaker 8: that's the one area that's the key to their team
• 26:38
  Speaker 8: that is a little bit older and won't be there
• 26:40
  Speaker 8: in three or four years probably the same. So that's
• 26:43
  Speaker 8: just what you gotta watch for, you know how they
• 26:45
  Speaker 8: keep fortifying that because that is what makes it go.
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: The line of scrimmage.
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: Well, I mean at this point, obviously it's early to
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: start thinking about this time next year. But I mean
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: a lot of times, I think most teams feel like
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: once they win the Super Bowl, like, well, we're gonna
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: run that back, We're gonna do that again. And yet
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: this one does feel like they are poised. I mean,
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: they got some offseason things they're gonna have to look
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: at with like K nine and and some other guys.
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: But I am I am wondering, from your perspective, how
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: how how likely is it it's difficult to win it again?
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: But I mean, would you put them as the Favorites's
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: point to do it next year.
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: I would.
• 27:23
  Speaker 8: I think they are the betting favorite right now. You know,
• 27:25
  Speaker 8: I kind of could see next year possibly being Look,
• 27:29
  Speaker 8: the Rams will be good again. Let's say the Seahawks.
• 27:31
  Speaker 8: If the Seahawks were to get there, I could see
• 27:33
  Speaker 8: them play even Baltimore. Would be a cool game. With
• 27:37
  Speaker 8: Jesse Minter being another you know, kind of harbad disciple.
• 27:40
  Speaker 8: Maybe they get a little bit of a bump this year,
• 27:44
  Speaker 8: you know, uh, just mentality wise, and with Lamar Jackson.
• 27:48
  Speaker 8: I think that that could be a fun type of
• 27:49
  Speaker 8: a matchup. But yes, I do like where the Seahawks
• 27:52
  Speaker 8: are at. They have to replacement Kubiak. I think that
• 27:55
  Speaker 8: they will do that. I am very confident in Mike
• 27:59
  Speaker 8: McDonald's ability to hold people accountable, hold coaching staffs accountable.
• 28:04
  Speaker 8: I mean, they made a coaching change at running back
• 28:06
  Speaker 8: during the season, like and the running back got way
• 28:10
  Speaker 8: better after that and was the MVP of the Super Bowl.
• 28:13
  Speaker 8: So I love Mike McDonald's accountability factor. Like we I
• 28:18
  Speaker 8: think we read or saw that he's like, you know,
• 28:21
  Speaker 8: questions the offensive staff after every game. I love that
• 28:25
  Speaker 8: when it's coming from a place of accountability, you know,
• 28:28
  Speaker 8: not just sometimes you get coaches that are just a
• 28:30
  Speaker 8: jerk and they burn everybody out and yell at them
• 28:32
  Speaker 8: and fire them on over the headsets and all of that.
• 28:34
  Speaker 8: That's not what we're talking about. We're talking about you've
• 28:37
  Speaker 8: got to be doing your job at a high level
• 28:38
  Speaker 8: or they're going to get somebody else. And so they
• 28:40
  Speaker 8: move on from Ryan Grebb, they moved on from the
• 28:42
  Speaker 8: running back coach. Those are all really good signs to me,
• 28:47
  Speaker 8: you know, and I think they've really they're way better
• 28:51
  Speaker 8: in the areas that they were concerned about by the
• 28:54
  Speaker 8: end of Pete's tenure, you know, which is defensive scheme
• 28:56
  Speaker 8: and having game plans week to week and then having
• 28:59
  Speaker 8: accountablity for your staff. He's got it here.
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Where will Sam Darnold begin twenty twenty six, Fall
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: twenty twenty six on Mike Sando's famous quarterback tiers.
• 29:12
  Speaker 8: Well, he's got to be in tier two, you know.
• 29:14
  Speaker 8: I think that a lot of times. I think he
• 29:17
  Speaker 8: moved up pretty high into tier three, which is, you know,
• 29:20
  Speaker 8: a solid starting quarterback, but you probably need some good
• 29:23
  Speaker 8: defense in a running game to win with him.
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: Which they had.
• 29:26
  Speaker 8: But I think you got sixty touchdown passes the last
• 29:28
  Speaker 8: two years. You've got the big game against the Rams
• 29:31
  Speaker 8: in the playoffs where they really had to put it
• 29:34
  Speaker 8: on his arm in his back, and he stood in there,
• 29:36
  Speaker 8: took hits and played like a top tier quarterback. Doesn't
• 29:39
  Speaker 8: mean your top tier, because the top tier the top
• 29:41
  Speaker 8: the second tier guys play like a top tier sometimes
• 29:44
  Speaker 8: just not every week. And so I think that he's
• 29:46
  Speaker 8: clearly going to go into that realm after now having
• 29:51
  Speaker 8: done it two years in a row and then putting
• 29:53
  Speaker 8: to rest, you know, some of the big game playoff
• 29:56
  Speaker 8: concerns that were real last year, and even when they
• 29:58
  Speaker 8: lost to the Rams in the first game. You know,
• 30:00
  Speaker 8: I think there's a real comfort with him. So I
• 30:03
  Speaker 8: think he's solidly going to be you know, I think
• 30:06
  Speaker 8: he should be threatening in the top ten towards the
• 30:08
  Speaker 8: top ten of the league.
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: Mike Sando is with us.
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: And so as we head into this offseason, Seahawks not
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: part of the equation.
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: Where's the action going.
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: To come from? What NFL city is going to be
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: the most interesting in all of the NFL this offseason?
• 30:27
  Speaker 8: For Hot News, Well, I think that we can see
• 30:32
  Speaker 8: Philly often is so I just think with their offensive
• 30:36
  Speaker 8: line coach leaving you know, kind of in a huff,
• 30:39
  Speaker 8: and they're having a new defensive coordinator, some questions about
• 30:42
  Speaker 8: Aj Brown, even Jalen Hurts. You know, an owner who's
• 30:47
  Speaker 8: hard charging, a GM who's uh, you know, involved in
• 30:52
  Speaker 8: all areas, including with the coaching staff. I think them
• 30:55
  Speaker 8: and Minnesota are the two places that I'm most interested
• 30:58
  Speaker 8: in watching. So just because it's Darnald thing, you know,
• 31:01
  Speaker 8: they we won the Super Bowl and they.
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: Got rid of them.
• 31:04
  Speaker 8: They don't really have a guy they can count on,
• 31:06
  Speaker 8: and they fired their GM. I mean, that is a
• 31:10
  Speaker 8: lot of fallout for a team that, by the way,
• 31:12
  Speaker 8: went nine and eight. We kind of thought they were
• 31:14
  Speaker 8: bad last year, and they kind of were, but they
• 31:16
  Speaker 8: won their final five games, So that's going to be
• 31:21
  Speaker 8: a huge storyline place Minnesota all off season.
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: Well, it's been a hell of a year and we
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: appreciated you joining us every Thursday here at nine thirty.
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: A huge part of our football coverage. We greatly enjoy
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: it and can't wait to do it again next year.
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: So thank you, Mike Sando for everything.
• 31:44
  Speaker 8: Thank you it was great seeing you guys, and I'm
• 31:46
  Speaker 8: sure we'll connect here as news warrants during the off season.
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, We're gonna bug the hell out of you. Oh
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: yeah yeah, so yeah, don't get comfortable. Yeah, I love it. Happy, Yeah,
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: don't head out of don't head overseas. No, well, what
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: do you mean?
• 32:01
  Speaker 8: We can do the internet.
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: That's true.
• 32:03
  Speaker 8: That's how you take your phone collect. You know you
• 32:05
  Speaker 8: guys would probably not take it, but I would try.
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we're not doing that. Collect come out.
• 32:09
  Speaker 8: Of my check deduction for eight dollars and seventy six cents.
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, take it up with Rich Moore. I'll give you
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: the address, Mike. Thanks again, appreciate it, thank you, love
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: it all right, Mike Sando NFL insider at the Athletic.
• 32:25
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• 33:27
  Speaker 2: of course you can just go there and just hang out,
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  Speaker 2: hang out with you stay there, Yeah, you stay there.
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: It's been the night there. Have breakfast there, eat away
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: lunch there.
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you probably do lunch and dinner. I imagine free bathrooms,
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: free bathrooms. That is a perk that we have not
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: mentioned up to this point, but I think they have
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: multiple free bathrooms and other amenities.
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Drink, You can get a drink there.
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: You could drink alcoholic beverages or non alcoholic and you
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: could even get water there.
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, probably an apple juice if you're really is that
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: it's your if you're if you're a child. Actually, I
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: had just yesterday. That's why I was thinking of a
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: spy copy.
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: I didn't have it in a sippy cup, and I
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: did have a straw and I sipped it.
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: One last thing here on this Thursday edition of Chuck
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: and Buck Bucky, where are you going?
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: Well, I saw today I pointed it out to you.
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: I don't know if you paid any attention to me
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: when I pointed out to you, or if you had
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: already known it. I saw on the TV that Zach
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: Wheeler kept his h surgically removed rib surgery a secret.
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: What in the hell he had a rib removed?
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: And I didn't know you were allowed to keep.
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: I don't go there, I don't don't. You don't go there, chuck.
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: I'm just thinking that was it hurting him when he pitched?
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: Is there another reason he's having it removed? But who
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: gets a rib removed?
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: I don't know. And didn't you have all off? Well?
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: I guess he didn't say what he had it done.
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: He probably had it done early here, but very interesting.
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: You don't see that every day. One of the best
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: pictures in the game had a rib removed in secret
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: and did it secretively?
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: Uh huh, Well can he do it now then? I
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: don't know.
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: I think you probably could have to have a couple
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: of ribs removed, and it sounded like you just.
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: Had one one on each side. Yeah. Probably. I'm glad
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: Ashley's picking up what we're putting down.
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: Kind of at the beginning, I wasn't meaning to go there,
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: but I did, and I kind of was like, well, I'd.
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: Like to know. I mean, if if you can now
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: throw the split finger.
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a split finger, all right, if you yeah,
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: that's a doozy.
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: Uh huh. I don't know.
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: I mean, I I have all my ribs and I
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: never thought about having one removed to help my performance
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: in baseball.
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: He once a future as a contortionist.
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: Maybe hey, you know, you know, maybe this baseball thing
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: is not going to work out for him exactly.
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he's gonna be okay.
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: But now he can go Joon Circus and see what
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: contortionists are making these days.
• 36:04
  Speaker 9: I have at least seventeen dollars an hour, Ashley, what's
• 36:08
  Speaker 9: your one last thing? Well, I don't know if you
• 36:09
  Speaker 9: guys saw this, And it's not a huge deal because
• 36:11
  Speaker 9: obviously all these football players make so much money. But
• 36:16
  Speaker 9: I do find it kind of funny that the Seahawks,
• 36:19
  Speaker 9: especial like at least Sam Darnold, actually lost about seventy
• 36:23
  Speaker 9: thousand dollars playing in the Super Bowl in California because
• 36:27
  Speaker 9: of the taxes. So because they had to be there
• 36:30
  Speaker 9: for I think they got in on what Saturday, a Sunday,
• 36:33
  Speaker 9: they had to be there for eight days basically, so
• 36:35
  Speaker 9: they get taxed for eight working in California for eight
• 36:39
  Speaker 9: days at their oh salary, so he owed, So he
• 36:43
  Speaker 9: won one hundred. He got a bonus of one hundred
• 36:45
  Speaker 9: and seventy eight thousand dollars for winning the Super Bowl,
• 36:48
  Speaker 9: but I believe. Yeah, but had to pay two hundred
• 36:50
  Speaker 9: and forty nine thousand dollars to have played in California. Yeah, whoa,
• 36:55
  Speaker 9: and then whoever is it next year will have to
• 36:56
  Speaker 9: do the same thing.
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: Hey.
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: The nice thing is that Bob Ferguson's trying to implement
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: a similar tax here. So you're gonna have a lot
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: of free agents wanting to come play for the Seahawks
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: and the.
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: Mariners hurting the Dodgers. No, I guess if you could
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: give them enough, Well, they actually they don't operate with
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: real money.
• 37:16
  Speaker 9: That's true Dodgers, so it's probably not real taxable.
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they just you can't tax monopoly.
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: Actually, I think that's part of the reason that the
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: guys like Showhy and whatnot deferred as much as money
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: as they did, is because eventually, when they're making money elsewhere,
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: they're living somewhere else, they're not gonna have to pay
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: that same.
• 37:33
  Speaker 9: Tax, but it will would still be where they played,
• 37:35
  Speaker 9: though tax on where you played, not.
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: Where you're.
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: Well, I don't know. I don't know.
• 37:42
  Speaker 9: That's above my brain capacity.
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah I don't.
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: I still don't even get it. Frankly, Yeah, I don't
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: even know what you're laying down there. It sounds crazy.
• 37:51
  Speaker 9: Simplicity of it is Sam had to pay money to
• 37:53
  Speaker 9: play in the Super Bowl.
• 37:54
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: We had a conversation earlier in the show about how
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: likable are our athletes have become here in Seattle, how
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: good our teams are becoming, and how likable the athletes
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: are at the exact same time. One of my favorite
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: little pleasures as a sports fan, and it's just it's
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: just one of those little little pleasures. It's not why
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: I'm a sports fan, certainly, but it's one of those
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: little pleasures. I love seeing when athletes from a town
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: support the other teams in town. I love seeing Josh
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: Naylor and his cracking jersey uh. And I love seeing
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: Schernham at the Mariners playoffs last year. Well, this team
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: really got in. The Mariners, really got into this Seahawks run.
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: And Col's just given himself completely to being I'm I'm
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: Seattle now whatever.
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: Fan, whatever teams I rooted for when I grew up.
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: That is in my past. I am a grown man.
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: I am an adult, right and I am going to
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: choose where I live. And he committed to Seattle obviously
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: with the long term contract. Uh, and he is committed
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: to our teams here locally. I guess. Ryan Diviish wrote
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: his story about how he how much he got into
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: this playoff run and cal said, quote in the story,
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: We're going to try to match them and do everything
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: we can to do what they did.
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: Let's go.
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: Don't you love hearing that I do?
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: Because he's not like shying away from it.
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: It's like he's not predicting we're going to do it,
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: but he's like, yeah, you're damn right. That was inspiring,
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: and you're damn right. We're even more motivated to pull
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: that off because we got to see it from our perspective,
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: and they did. They followed along, A group of them
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: went to the Super Bowl together. I mean, I love it,
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: just love it. Yeah.
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: I did see that they were there and that I
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: mean it makes sense. Why would you not jump on
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: board with and follow and support the other teams and
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: yet to watch the parade? I mean they were already
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: down there in spring training. They weren't part of the
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: parade obviously, but.
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: The Huskies weren't. Jed Fish took the Huskies. I think
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: that's a great.
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, let them know.
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: This is what this is what the city's kind of
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: feeding for, and I think the Mariner's got a taste
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: of it. Last year obviously came up a little bit short.
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: I think they're gonna be as hungry as ever, especially
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: on the heels of the Seahawks.
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: Eas well, we're gonna be in Peoria, Arizona, Saturday, working Sunday.
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: First show will be Monday from spring training. So it's
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: our award winning coverage. We have one awards for our
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: spring training coverage. Yeah, of course it's happened, and it
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: starts again Monday. I know it's a bit of a
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: sharp left turn. I think people are gonna love it.
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: I'm loving it. It's gonna be awesome. Football season's over. Boo,
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: what's rated? Sign me up? Well, tomorrow will be our
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: transition day, our one and only transition day, right, Yes,
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: so join us. Tomorrow's We don't have a football Friday Tomorrow,
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: not an official one, so we can start the transition
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: into everything else going on in the World.
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: Coming up next, Mark James Christopher Kidd.
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