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• Byron: Alright, welcome to Cut the Cuck, the show where we talk about the sport that we love and know very little about. That guy in that crusader's jersey, they think he loves more than himself. That's Chad and I'm Byron and let's cut the cuck. Chad: Let's do it. Where do you want to start? Byron: Chad, that jersey, you like it, don't you? Chad: Shout out to Bumfa. It's fucking so sick. It's a, um, it's the retro jerseys. It's that old like, um, T-Maxx material. I got them off the website of, from Bumfa. Um, so good. So much better than I thought it was. I didn't realize that it was so sick. It's a little bit longer too. A little bit like, looser than old school fits, but just proper. I also got the, um, away, uh, Byron: Another boom for shout out. Chad: 30 year anniversary jersey with the head so Byron: Yeah. Yeah, I saw, I think it was just before the Chief Crusaders game, they were doing a comparison of the actual jersey from 30 years ago compared to this one and like the similarities and where they're slightly different. It was pretty cool. Also crazy how much jersey technology has changed in 30 years. Chad: Wild. Again, Bumford's got a whole thing about the jerseys and talks the Temex and the old school ones and how they were made. It's actually wild how it all started, where it's all done. know, the Temex type of cotton, the way that they blend it was actually done in South Africa. I had no There you go. Byron: Yeah. Huh, we learned something new. Alright, well... Chad: Yeah, so yeah, shout out to Bumper. Get your jersey there. The unofficial jersey producer or supplier. That's the word I was looking for. The unofficial jersey supplier of Katakak. Byron: supplier ⁓ cut the cock let's see where do we start rugby this week probably start with super rugby I'm enjoying it I've got to be honest with you I'm loving it Chad: It's fun, she's exciting, and it's only three weeks in. Byron: And results are all over the place. Chad: Yeah, I know. Do you want to go through it? Because I've actually, I've got a bit of theory ⁓ hope. I don't know what it is yet. Byron: Okay, so do you want to do your theory slash hope first or do you want me to just read the results or do you want to go through game by game? Chad: We'll do the results and then I'll tell you why I think what I think. Byron: Okay, so the round started off with Force beating Moana. ⁓ were away from home 35-19. ⁓ Force have played three good games, which always surprises me because I have no offense to them, zero to no expectation of them even putting a point on the board when they play. ⁓ Chad: Yep. I wasn't expecting that. The Heft! you But maybe that's also why, because the expectations are so low that it's really easily met. But they played really well. Byron: Yeah, I mean, even so they lost to the Blues the week before and they lost to the Brumbies for the first week. But they put real points on the board. They put 24 on the board against Brumbies and 32 on the board against the Blues and 35 against Moana. Chad: Yeah. Yeah, blues game was a lot closer than I thought it was going to be. I thought that was going to be a Byron: Yeah, that score, that 10 point difference is not really, no, it was close. ⁓ Reds beating the Highlanders, another, for me personally, a little bit of a surprise because I was very vocal about the New Zealand sides versus the Aussie sides. And then to put more icing on the cake, Drew beat the Hurricanes. ⁓ Another New Zealand loss for the ⁓ Chad: Yeah. Yep. Wild. Byron: and we try to bring the clip up into this, but that Druer Intercept try was as if someone wrote the script down, they told him what they were going to do, and then he executed it perfectly. He read that game as if he was the one playing on PlayStation. Great Intercept. then I guess the result that makes you happy, but kind of a little bit of a shock for everybody. Crusaders the Chiefs, 43-33. Chad: Yep. Yep, down south. Byron: ⁓ And then to end off the rounds, round three, Brumby's beating the Blues an 80 minute plus try to that game off, which was a big ⁓ shocker well. if you at the New Zealand sides, every game they they lost basically, Crusaders being the only New Zealand team to pick up a win. And that's because they another New Zealand side. So there was still a New Zealand loss for that game. Chad: yeah so i knew one one kiwi sad one crazy wild Byron: Crazy. And that's because they're playing another Kiwi side. would assume if they, don't know, the other teams that were left were kind of, ⁓ got four specific. ⁓ you never know, you never know what happens. Chad: Yeah. Crazier things have happened. But, which kind of feeds into my theory, if the competition carries on this way, the way we predicted the... well, what we thought was going to be the opening game, but the game against Australia versus New Zealand becomes a little bit... Byron: ⁓ huh. So the second game for Australia and New Zealand in the World Cup. Chad: Yeah, it becomes a bit ⁓ Byron: It becomes a bit more plausible. But it's still hard to believe. It's because it's the All Blacks. don't... All Blacks generally, but All Blacks in a World Cup, you never think they're gonna lose. No matter who they play against, how poorly they're playing, how well they're playing, you just don't expect them to lose a World Cup game. Chad: It is. Yes. Yeah. Byron: So, it's a scary theory, it kinda holds more hope, I would say at this point. But it's one bad week, we're still a year out, blah, blah. Chad: I know. it's, it's, was literally one bad weekend. Here we are. But it's just, it's just for me, it's how close that gap is between the Australian teams and the Kiwi teams. We're like in the last couple of years, it's been, yeah. ⁓ Byron: Yeah, and. Night and day, yeah. Well, so we spoke about number of crossfield kicks last week and there were just too many of them. But now if I look at after watching, so the prior was too many kicks this week, there were significantly less crossfield kicks, but the Blues were passing the ball as if they were doing crossfield kicks. They were doing skip eight. Passes. Chad: I mean, to be fair, the other games, the weather was terrible and the wind was howling and blowing and all that kind of stuff. But that's what I was saying like the week before the Aussie teams are holding the ball in hand more and getting much better results doing it. Byron: Yeah, I mean, Druid did that brilliantly this weekend. They held onto the ball for as long as possible, which if you look at the Fiji national side, and obviously Druid's basically Fiji without their into the players that play overseas. They're known for their flair and their flash, but they held onto the ball this week, even when they weren't making ground, they still kept ball in hand. And I think it made a massive difference for them. Chad: Yeah. It's good to see it. I hope the competition carries on in this that's going. It's fun. ⁓ I ⁓ reckon it's the best competition in the world, especially when it's like these tight closed games. Byron: It's been great. What I thought was, think we spoke about it as well, in druer game, how wet that pitch was. Chad: That was. Byron: they made a break down the wing, all you heard was splats, splats, splats, splats, splats. Chad: Can you imagine, have you ever played in like wet weather like that? It is exhausting. Cobbs, cramp, it's... Byron: You can't hold on to anything. Everyone's wet. It's horrible. But it just so interesting to hear that noise. when you're watching rugby, ⁓ ⁓ to certain sounds from the mic. Splat, splat, splat, splat, splat is not one of them. ⁓ Chad: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, but I must say the I don't know if it was just me but this last weekend I don't know what they've done with the ⁓ for the broadcast I don't know you guys picked it up, whatever you were watching it But you could hear every single hit in all the games. It sounds like they were all the players were marked up Byron: Yes. Yeah, sound like everyone, not just the ref was marked up. Everybody had a, there must be a new podcast sponsor for Super Rugby. Everyone's got a headset to mark up. Chad: No. Yeah. Yes, that's because the headsets were coming through. I was like, ⁓ I can like feel them. It's hectic. Yeah. Byron: It's a harsh sound. It's a, yeah, when oaks are that big and that strong and that fast, it's a harsh sound, but I like it. I kind of enjoy it. Yeah. Chad: No, no, I'm not complaining. just I noticed it this weekend sitting on the couch going oh, oh, oh guys. What's wrong with you? I was like these oaks look fucking... Byron: Someone why are they mooring each other so much worse than usual? Chad: Yeah, I think, yeah, it's probably the same. It's just the sound made it like amplified it. Yeah. Byron: Uh-huh. No, it has been different. I agree with you. I don't think there were much, there were many controversial moments from Super rugby this past weekend. The only one I have, I don't know if you can remember it, the Highlanders try in the 70th minute. ⁓ I wear rings and bells for you, against Druor. I mean, against the Reds, sorry. Chad: does not... no... I can't click it... Byron: It wasn't a try, the ref said it was held up. Chad: ⁓ yes, I remember that one. That absolutely touched. That, that's... Byron: Aha. There was, they say, you only need one blade of grass. Chad: Yeah, there was a couple there. Byron: which is exactly like the New Zealand catch against the Proteas yesterday. I agree, his fingers were, there was a pinky under the ball, but there was also a lot of grass that touched that ball before when the catch was made. Chad: Yep. I don't... I'm going on topic here. I don't think even if that wasn't given, we'd probably still have lost. Byron: I know we still would have lost the cricket. The Blackcaps beat the shit out of us very, very clearly. Yeah, they proper, proper, proper clubbed us. But that ball hit the ground. This ball was a try. Chad: Yeah, be just like a ready-to-step child, it was horrible. Yeah. Byron: ⁓ annoying because the commentator even was like, ⁓ yeah, you can see clearly the ball touched the ground. And then the TMO goes, ⁓ no, you can stick to your on-field decision, ball held up. Chad: Yeah, the commenters were like, ⁓ Byron: Wait a minute, you can see it, it's there. Now I was always, before we started diving deep into refereeing and the TMO and talking about rugby the way we are, always was under the assumption if the TMO makes the call, they've got all the technology and the time they need, that it's the right call and it's not debatable. Lately... Chad: Yeah. Yeah. Byron: I mean, we have that example from a few weeks ago with Holly in the Six Nations. yeah, it was a Six Nations game. ⁓ the TMO got it wrong. And it wrecked Yeah, so she had to rely on the TMO. But while the TMO is getting it wrong, they've got the time, they've got the technology, they got fucking 300 different angles. The thing they're missing is maybe if they can get video ⁓ footage Oaks in the Crowd on their phone. Chad: Yep. Yep. And she just couldn't see the screen. It does feel like that. I know you're right. It does feel like the. Byron: Otherwise they've got everything. Chad: How much time they spend looking at things has definitely got shorter. They must be under pressure to try and speed the game up that way at least. that's what they're trying to do. They're trying to stop all of that stuff. Byron: Yes, but isn't getting the right decision? Chad: At least in Super Rack B. I'm talking about Super Rack B. I know. I'm with you. they're trying to bring them in and that's what we've been saying. But yeah. Byron: this. That's fun. But then when it's your turn, when you've got to do your thing. So Super Ragby. Yeah, we're talking Super Ragby, the new laws that they're experimenting with is the TMO can only get involved for certain situations. Most foul play, every try scoring lead up to the try. So now try scored as the TMO, now it's my fucking job. Chad: You've got one job. Byron: to check everything that led up to it that the trial is good. Okay. Chad: Yep. But it's not just one oak, there's a couple oaks in there. Byron: It doesn't matter how many people are there. Chad: Yeah, no, no, I'm fine. Don't argue with me. I'm on your side. do us. We say we are both heading in the same direction here. Byron: And then if they're in a stadium where the screen is accessible, you've also got the referee and both ARs looking at the screen while they're going frame by frame, zoom in, zoom out, full speed, you know, they go through the whole thing. Chad: Hmm. Byron: How is it then that the people at home are watching the same thing you're watching? They're seeing the grass touch the ball, indicating a try, right? And also there's even verbiage to protect the TMO, where it has to be a clear and obvious to overturn the on-field decision. Chad: Yeah. Byron: So if you're unsure, you can say unsure, stick to your on-field decision and no one complains. What is wrong is when the ball touches the ground and you go, nope, held up. That's what pisses people off. If you were looking at it, you looked at all the angles and you couldn't clearly see the ball touch the ground or you couldn't see the ball at all and you go, look, there's no clear and obvious thing here, stick with your on-field decision. one complains about that. Chad: Yeah. Byron: But then to get it wrong after having 300 angles, slow motion, zoom in, zoom out, full speed, you look at it, your uncle looks at it, your cousin looks at it, and you still get it wrong, that's annoying. Chad: and it impacts the game in a big way. Byron: And ⁓ that has a bigger impact on the game than if they took an extra 30 seconds. Chad: 100 % Byron: I don't think you should rush important decisions. Because even if they took 30 seconds longer, sure, people said speed the game up, shut up. ⁓ Get it right. because now what will happen is now the game's faster, your team gets the wrong decision and you go, these refs don't know fucking nothing about anything like we're doing right now. Chad: Yeah. Yeah. Do you raw results? Or a faster game? Yeah. Yeah. Byron: But if you took 30 seconds longer and got the right call, you couldn't bitch about it. Chad: Yeah. Byron: So I don't know, maybe I was a little too aggressive, but I don't know, pissed me off. The TMO shouldn't get it wrong is all I'm saying. Chad: I can tell. I can tell it's pissed you off. It's probably more than it should have, but... Byron: Because the game had no effect on my life whatsoever. I don't support either team. Chad: No. But it just shows you that we love rugby. That's what it is. It's full of love of rugby. Byron: It's just a Saturday morning for me. That's what it is. I love the sport and we just want it to be as good as it can be. And TMOs need to stop getting it wrong. Take 30 seconds longer. Don't... ⁓ Chad: Yep. Yeah. Well. When you are at the peak of your riffing career you can sort them out one TMO at a time. Byron: I'm going to put me in the TMO box. I'm ready for it. Show me that little fast forward rewind button. I'm ready to go. Chad: Yeah, actually that I reckon I could I'd love to do that job. TMO I'd rather be TMO than ref. Byron: TMO. Yeah, because the TMO can get it wrong and no one's screaming at you from the stands. ⁓ Chad: Besides, as two pelix on the internet. Yeah. Byron: Yeah, but we're both knobs, so it doesn't matter. Chad: Yeah. Byron: ⁓ Super rugby. you think that kind already expressed it, but do you think it's the best club rugby competition? Chad: I do. Byron: I think it's the most exciting. I don't know if it's the best and I'll tell you why. Chad: It's difficult. The best is so... Yeah, like it depends on what kind of style you like prefer. Me, I like, I've always kind of liked that running fast paced game. Heavy context. Lord Neversfield played a different style. It's just... Byron: Subject. completely different style. It's tough to say which is more exciting. Chad: Just different. And then you go to Japan. Yeah, the most exciting to watch is the Japanese league. Byron: I don't think I've ever watched a game from start to finish in the Japanese. Chad: Dude, so much fun to watch. is hard paced. All the games are hard scoring. Byron: Now, I don't mean this disrespectfully, is the quality good? Chad: No. It's exciting. Byron: So it's just, it's, it's just, okay. I see, I see where you're coming from. Chad: It's not horror, it's not like watching... Byron: Glendvistahar! Chad: Yeah it's not like watching in Vistaha but it's also not like watching the Crusaders and the Chiefs. There's a lot more stuff but yeah no it's and everyone seems like they can run the 100 meter in seven seconds. Like everyone's so quick it feels like the rugby fields are smaller. Byron: I get it. Yeah, there's... the... the... The speed these days that rugby's played at is terrifying. Chad: Yeah, so the players are just getting faster and stronger. Byron: Yeah, it's pretty incredible. But with ⁓ rugby, we about crossfield kicks a lot in the previous week. You said the weather might have played a role in the number of kicks this week. Do you think that there's more or less discipline within Super Rugby? Because if you look at the penalty count in Super Rugby, it's pretty high. Chad: Yeah, I actually don't know what the numbers are, but that would be a good... a good... thing to look at compared to other competitions. Yeah, I don't know. Byron: I mean, I'm just going off anecdotal. I haven't looked at any stats, but there's a lot more opportunity for teams to kick to the corner. That what I noticed in Super rugby, because obviously we had Super rugby and USC on the same weekend, because there was the break in the Six Nations. There's a lot more opportunity in Super rugby to kick for the corner, there's this repeated penalty, repeated penalty, repeated penalty. Chad: Yeah. Byron: where I feel like you can go, obviously not every game, this is just on average, you can go quite some time in the URC. ⁓ Chad: But that's what was talking about earlier, the different styles of rugby. Because if you go watch any Kiwi side, when you're at that breakdown, that ball's coming out and going out wide really quickly. So you get called off sides quite often. Against the Northern Hemisphere, you've got that extra two or three seconds to get behind the line and set. Byron: Mm-hmm. where they set the line, set the forwards, yeah, yeah, yeah. Chad: So yeah, that's what I think. But I'll try and find the stats about that because it's actually a good thing to look at. I'll have a look at the and I'll try and see if I can find what they were given for. Byron: It would be interesting. Because if I recall correctly in Super rugby this weekend, there were at least two games where both teams had double digit penalties given away. Chad: that's a good thing to try and look for. what they, I wonder what that would look like compared to the Northern Hemisphere. Byron: A lot of it is around the rucks, so either not rolling away or hands in the ruck. then the other one, like you said, is offside. Chad: Yeah. Yeah, that does seem to be called a lot at the moment. Byron: Another thing that I think is quite interesting also that you see more in Super Rugby and actually from both the Kiwi and the Aussie sides more than anyone else is that kind of in the pillar where there should be a pillar one around the ruck they kind of instead of picking the ball up from around the ruck they kind of pick it up on the side of the ruck where there isn't a pillar and they like pick it up almost behind them and then run forward. Chad: No one. Yep. Byron: and break the line that way. think that's pretty, whenever they do it, works. But you only see it from them. I don't see anyone else picking the ball up behind them and then breaking the line. Chad: Yeah. Yeah. Byron: interesting rock rock. Chad: Interesting. I've got my brain sticking over with this thing because it feels like in the URC there's way more cards. Byron: Yeah, but that's because it's, is just me. It's wet and they don't know how to tackle. The are usually from hard tackles and not from repeated ⁓ penalties the red zone. Chad: But it's... Yeah, maybe. But like when there were cards in the I don't even want to talk about it, but the lion sharks game, there was three cards in that game that was played in Joburg. Jesus. Hang on, let me just have a look at this. So the lion sharks, yellow cards, the card of Lensner, two yellow cards. That game was so tight, one point game. Byron: Yeah. But the one was for tackling the air. Yes. I actually want to talk about that game. Chad: Edinburgh, Scarlet, yellow card. Jesus! Dragons, two yellow cards and red. So every single game had a card. Every single game had a card. Osprey, Ulster, yellow card. single game's weekend. Looks like it had a card. Cardiff, yellow card. Byron: actually didn't watch that. That's hilarious. Chad: What has happened to the Northern Hemisphere? They just don't care. I didn't realize that every single game had a card. Byron: We might have just. Yeah, I just didn't realize that's actually crazy to think. Chad: That is wild. Like in my back of my mind, I knew that there was a lot more cards being given, but yes, I didn't realize it was every game. The referee is that he shoulder workout from just constantly. Byron: That's the usual. Oaks are playing Blackjack for the UIC this week. Hahaha ⁓ Chad: That's cooked. Byron: I actually want to go back and watch these games now to see what all the cards were for. Chad: I'm go see if I can just ⁓ I'm not gonna watch the whole game but I'll watch the highlights again. That is cooked! Byron: My memory doesn't serve me well. I know the Lions, was one for a tackle in the air. I was against the Sharks the week before. But anyway. So, Super Rugby. Let's just go over quickly for this weekend. Chiefs playing, are hosting Moana Pacifica. Yes. Hit me. ⁓ Chad: Yep. Do we want to quickly? I have an idea on the fly idea. We're to pick winners. For each game. Yeah, we'll just go bang, bang. Chiefs. Byron: Okay, so we'll go through each game and pick a winner. Easy. Chiefs Pacifica. Chiefs. Okay. Waratahs play the Hurricanes. Chad: I'm gonna say the Cain's gonna be pissed off and win. Who's the lineups? Yeah, Kane's going to Kane Roy-God is going to score three tries. Byron: know what? Historically, I would agree with you. Just based on what's going on, I say Warratars beat the Hurricanes. Chad: I mean, it is at home, maybe. Well, there we go. and Force. Byron: You know me, I can't trust the force to finish a cheeseburger, so we're going islanders. Chad: 100 % Blues vs Crusaders in Auckland. Yeah. Byron: Best game of the weekend, I think. I chose to support Blues at the beginning of the season, so I gotta go Blues. You gotta go Crusaders. Chad: Oh, would have gone crusader than you are. Brumbies and raids. It's going to be a goodie. Byron: these reds. Good game. Also good game. Chad: in Canberra. I reckon Brumby's. Byron: I'll go brambies again, yeah. Sick. Chad: I want to is James Slipper playing a game? That oak has been having this is almost the best rugby he's played in years. Yeah. Yeah, it's crazy. 200 matches and he's playing like he's playing on his debut. It's so good. Byron: He's just, he's having the best season of his life. Put him at 10. I saw what he's been doing. Put him at 10. Let's see what happens. Yeah, that's so impressive. Good on you, James Slipper. Chad: I like it. Little quick rapid fire. Byron: ⁓ We quickly touched on it, URC, that Cardiff lends the game. What an incredibly difficult game of rugby to play. That pitch, if we thought the Druer game was bad, that one was special. That was a rough game. And obviously, they should have. They should have. But you know what? Obviously, this round is interesting in the scope of the URC, because all of the international players are gone. Which we would see when there was Super Rugby. Chad: It was... It was hectic. I thought they were going to call their game off at some point. Yeah. Byron: the rugby championship. The Lions would always get their best results during those weeks ⁓ they had no spring box. But obviously this this URC, because the South African sides are at full strength, they played one another. ⁓ The was finalized, so the Lions win the shield. Thank you very much. Bonkers! But what I thought was interesting is four seasons in the URC ⁓ Chad: because I've been consistent. Which is wild. Byron: four different cup winners, I mean, shield winners. Chad: Yep. Byron: Crazy. ⁓ But ⁓ the whole reason for bringing this up was when Sneyman came on for Leinster changed the whole game for them because no offense, but Leinster weren't really in this game against Cardiff. No one could score points because no one could run within the swamp because the water was by their knees. But when he came on, all of a sudden you're like, ooh. Chad: Crazy. And we, I don't know about you sir. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, swim. It was basically water polo. Byron: I Leinster could win this. But before he was on there, looked like the force. Chad: Yeah. He's not a bad, not a bad player. Old Achir. He's okay. Yeah, can keep him. Weird to see him not in the alignment camp, but... Byron: This is good, this is pretty good. Let's see what else happened. No? Chad: No, would have been on the online, they had an online one, but just I would have expected him to be the boys. Byron: Okay. Wait, wait, Sniwan's not in the squad that was announced? Chad: I didn't see. I could be wrong. I hope I am. Byron: looking now, give me one second. I didn't even look for his name because I would just expect him to be there. he only took... locally based players. Chad: Yeah, there are there is a an online one so Colby and Marnie, yeah, There was a couple other ones that did it virtually. Byron: Those other Oaks who play overseas, why can't I think of his name? Dear Lendi. Chad: Yeah, cool. All in. Byron: Okay, all right, so that makes sense then. Sucks that they're not included, but I guess with international responsibilities, blah blah blah blah blah. You scared me there for a second. Stormers have now lost three games in a row, two ⁓ the sharks, one to the Lions. Crazy, I did not expect the Lions to beat the Stormers at Ellis Park. Chad: Clubs, No, and that's I was going to say. If you spoke to us three games ago, we would have said, the Stormers are taking the shield. It's a race for second. Byron: Yeah, because they should have the Sharks both weeks and then beaten the Lions and they would have taken the shield. Yeah. Chad: Yeah, and then they just, yeah, want it. It was crazy. Byron: Yeah, and it kind of concerns me because I feel like the end of the spring box season, Sasha was playing the best rugby we've ever seen out of him. ⁓ And feel like in the last few Stormers games, he's kind of lost that. Chad: Yep. Yeah, he's just being put under pressure. Byron: So much pressure. I that whatever internal and external pressures that are coming towards him, he kind of gets them all under control before he needs to. ⁓ Chad: Yeah, but I think once, when Sasha is going to be around, Pollard and Amani who have done it Brazilian times, yeah, 100%. He'll, I reckon he'll be fine once that alignment camp and the box camp all comes into play. That, ⁓ that group, I'm talking like I'm in the group. That group looks so solid though. Yeah. Byron: He's still young, so much pressure. Yeah, yeah. brings out the best in people. Chad: But it's just such a, watching like Chasing the Sun and the documentary and the Rusty Plus documentary they were talking about, that's just, that group ⁓ players is unbreakable. Byron: ⁓ yeah. Yeah. Chad: Yeah, I did see. Byron: And like they keep they keep reminding them you're not playing for you. You're not playing for me. You're playing for South Africa. And not just. Yeah. Chad: Yeah, yeah. It's such a weird thing to explain to people because even you and me know what that means, but someone f- Byron: And even the way I just said it, it doesn't accurately represent what it is when you say you're playing for South Africa. Because everyone goes, I'm playing for national pride. And they're not playing for national pride. They're playing for the individual South African and all the shit that they've gone through and will go through. ⁓ Chad: Yeah, it's cooked. It's such a... that he is... Yeah, yeah, it's just different. Byron: Go ahead. Chad: I it's off topic so if you want to carry on talking about this we can. Yeah topics for the week. Um I did see Russi was speaking and basically and I don't know if this is him playing mind games or whatever but basically said that he is choosing squad depths over wins in 2026. In a nutshell that's what he said. It wouldn't, no. Byron: Off topics fine, who cares about topics? ⁓ wouldn't, wouldn't surprise me. No. Chad: Especially with the alignment camp, the OSA did get named with 11. Byron: Yeah, I've actually got that list up. I want to go through them before we start. mean, before we get into the internationals. Once we start talking about the clubs, but he's always had that mindset. You know, I don't mind losing games leading up to what he wants to win so that we can get the best version of what we need for 2027. He's done it before. When he says that, it's hard to hear. Chad: Yep. Byron: Because a fan, ⁓ to win every game. ⁓ But what feels better, winning a friendly against Wales or winning the World Cup next year? Chad: Yeah, you're entertaining too, Yeah. You need to use a different team as to that analogy. Byron: Yeah, because we'd still be in Wales. Chad: Yeah, you could say Yeah Byron: The under 19s would probably give him a go. ⁓ No, I agree with that. Even if it is mind games, I still think it's the truth. ⁓ Chad: Yeah, well that's the thing like with rusty you don't know if he's actually playing mind games or just being honest Byron: He could just be honest and everyone's like, I wonder what he's trying to do. And he's like, oh, that was that time, which I thought where he was sharing the food with his dog. It was immediately after everyone was talking about him being some like genius mind melt rocket scientist. And then he puts that video out and you're like, it's just Russie. How many times do you think Russie was hit in the head in his rugby career? Chad: Yeah. Yeah. Hey. Byron: Hahaha Chad: How many bottles of brandy do you reckon he's sunk? Byron: He even sounds as if there's still some brandy lingering whenever he's in an interview. So it's soaked into your system. Chad: Yeah, he's got some blood needs alcohols dream. Byron: Yeah, flippin' Imagine the amount of brandy that used to be consumed, let's say the 1995 World Cup, after they won. Chad: Nuff. Jesus. Byron: How much, even if you go down the line, you look at Bucky's Boettcher, Ostrand, Victor Matfield, how much brandy could those Oaks drink? Chad: We have to get one of them on the pod. Because... Byron: Just kidding, let's find out. You know there was that wrestler, Andre the Giant, and then you would hear them talk about how much he used to be able to drink. Like he'd finish a case of beer before starting the night and shit like that. I want to hear those similar stories but with Ostrand or ⁓ everything be crazy to hear. How much those oats used to consume. Chad: Yeah. Yep. We can't, yeah. There we go, let's start a segment on the pod being like, how much did you drink? How much brandy did you sink? I like it, I'm into it. We just got to convince one of them to leak their stories. Byron: Hahaha Ugh. All we need is one of them to send us a message or comment on one of the things and we'll find out about it. That'll be great. ⁓ Chad: Yeah. I wonder who's the biggest brandy drinker at the moment in the squad. Byron: the moment. I was gonna say if we're just going on SARS alone, Volco Low, probably needs to finish a bottle of brandy before he starts drinking. Chad: Vulko? Yeah, yes, this. Yeah, it's to be him maybe. Byron: Mark of Marks, I got a feeling can put him down as well. Chad: Yeah. well there we go. We'll it out. Yeah. And if the box want to take us on a celebratory drink after they've won the game, shoot us a message. We'll ⁓ make plan. Byron: Let us know down below. I mean, I'll die trying just for that experience. I can't remember when last I had a drink. It's been a while since I've had a drink. I'll get alcohol poisoning if I'm invited. I don't care. No. Yeah. If I die there, it's totally okay by me. Chad: ⁓ 100%. I will... Absolute worth... no hesitation. I'll make sure my will is in order and I'm off. I hope my missus doesn't see this part of the podcast. Byron: Hahaha Chad: Pass. I'm with you. Byron: That'll be great. That'll be hilarious. Alright, yeah, that was a great sidetrack. Thanks for that one, Chad. Where were we? ⁓ you did it just before the best result of the weekend. The Bulls beat the Sharks 41-12. Chad: Yuck! Byron: And remember Bulls went on that, what is it, eight game losing streak or whatever? And then they came back and they beat the shit out of the Lions. And now they've beat the shit out of the Sharks. All I'm saying is I'm happy we don't have to play the Bulls for the rest of the season. Chad: Terrible. ⁓ yeah. Yep. Yeah. Who do they have? Who else do they have? So they done... Byron: Next week they play Cardiff, or not next week, the next round which is... Chad: Do I have to the Stormers next? No, I play Stormers next. Byron: ⁓ there's that game in between that they need to catch up on. Chad: Yeah. Byron: Oof, that's gonna be rough for the Stormers. Chad: in Loftus. Looks like most eight games are next three games in Loftus. Byron: Mmm. even worse for the storm. Chad: Yeah, it'll be a fun one actually. Byron: When is that? Because I know that's a catch-up game for them. Chad: 15th of March, well my 15th of March 1am ⁓ Byron: Okay, I'll be another fun one to watch. Sorry, I got sidetracked again. Where were we? 41-12, Connacht beat Glasgow, which I thought was crazy, 15-10. Munster beat Zebre 21-7, Dragons and Benetton drew, and then Ospreys beat Ulster. Chad: I know, cooked. It's such a good game that one. Byron: Great game, but what? ⁓ And then that puts only one. then if you look at the table, I thought it was pretty interesting. Stormers have dropped down to fifth, but do have a game in hand on the four above them, which is Monster Card of Lens, the Glasgow top. Then ⁓ you Ulster at six, ⁓ Lions seven. Chad: Yeah. Only one card. ⁓ not that interesting. Byron: but Ulster have a game in hand. Bulls at eight also have a game in hand. And then under that cutoff line, you have Ospreys, Konnacht, Sharks at 11. The problem is Sharks are six ⁓ off the top eight. Look, you can do it in two weekends. ⁓ But you need a lot of games to go your way because Chad: You need a lot of games to go your way though. Byron: from fifth down to thirteenth. It might be bit too big of a spread. Maybe we go from, well for the top eight, so where the bulls are, 30 points, down to 13th is a seven point difference. Chad: Yeah. Yeah, it all kind of depends on this next game for like for to sort out that table because if the bulls win that sends them and lions down but the stormers win yeah ⁓ and is ⁓ Byron: Yeah, and then if the Stormers get the win, it sends them up, which we really want. It's tough to say because we want as many South African teams in the top eight as possible, but we also want some South African teams with some home knockout games. So like, we want ⁓ Bulls to beat the Stormers? Kind of, because then you have the Bulls definitely in the top eight, but also no, because we want the Stormers in the top four. Chad: 100 % Yeah. Byron: preferably top two. So yeah, a lot of rugby still to come for this competition, which is exciting. Chad: Well, I reckon the Sharks are going to go on a six game win streak. Byron: And look, we're done playing South African side, so fucking go ahead. Chad: Yeah, six game win streak. Make it in, win the whole thing. Peterson is going to be given the keys to ⁓ Byron: All right, easy does it, easy does it. No, no, no. But that's it. There's no URC this weekend Six Nations is back baby. What a competition we're having in the Six Nations. Chad: Yep. Byron: I say we talk about the games and we give our predictions because our first predictions were completely wrong. Chad: Everybody's predictions are completely wrong, but yeah. Byron: Okay, so first game, is Friday night, well, I Saturday morning. Chad: Absolute cracker. Byron: How badly do Ireland beat Wales? Chad: Yeah, she's... you think that the Wales would have taken something out of that, like some hope and belief at their last game against ⁓ Scotland? Byron: because Scotland? Sure, they can take whatever they want out of it. It's gonna mean fuck all. Because after Ireland lost to France, they've been on a tear. Chad: Yeah, and they absolutely mauled English, which I was so happy about. It did. Byron: what they did to England. ⁓ it felt good, didn't it? It felt good. so that's it. We both know that's an easy one. Scotland, France. Chad: Yep. I hope the next two games are upsets but I hope if I had to choose one game to be an upset this is the one just to ruffle the feathers even more for this competition Byron: For the competition, yes, I agree with you. I think Scotland beating France would be amazing for the competition. But Italy beating England is better for World Rugby than I can imagine most things. Chad: Yes. Also fantastic for Scotland. Yeah. I reckon... Sorry, are we done with the Scotland-France game? Byron: I don't know, they're fucking interchangeable at this point. Chad: The way I see the game going on Sunday, England, Italy, I think England won the match, but Italy won the battle up front. Byron: I like the way that sounds. I like the way that sounds. Chad: I reckon, I think they're gonna... Italians at the moment I think have the best scrum. Byron: in the sixth nation. Chad: in the six nations. and they've been ⁓ good at the breakdown. I reckon they, they wouldn't that's battle upfront. whenever these scrums line outs, even their malls looking not too shabby, I reckon they'll dominate in that area, but then England's going to send the bulls out wide and do, do fun things. Byron: So then we saw kind of England once their plan got thrown out against Ireland. If Italy can put a hold on the hard ball against England and kind of throw all their tactics off and they're in the forward pack, do think they can do enough to beat England? Chad: No, even like I'm looking at their squad that they've announced. They're not holding anything back. Byron: No, they have to win this game. England have to win this game. Chad: Yeah, they have to. They've taken Pollock back on the bench. Byron: which is his better position to come off the bench. Yeah. Chad: 100 % No. Yeah, he, got so many opinions about him. Byron: Because he is an explosive player, he's a fast player, that's like his thing. So when you come off the bench and implement that, it's way more ⁓ impactful than having him start and do that. Chad: Yeah. Yeah. I also think having a character like this in your team. it must be so fucking annoying. ⁓ somebody just constantly ⁓ causing for the sake of causing cuck and trying to be a That energy is... Yeah, but he did it in a different way. He just wanted to inflict pain. Yeah, and... I can't believe he just compared Bucky's poetry to Pollock. Fuck. Byron: I mean, back his words or that it? Yeah, he did it by beating the shit out of other people illegally. Okay, easy. Okay, hold on. When you put it like that, I apologize. I don't want Bucky's coming to beat the shit out of me. Chad: Yeah. He's coming on the part to tell us his drinking stories, so make sure he sees the clip before. Byron: Hahaha Chad: Hmm. Well, sorry, we're doing a tangent there. Byron: Italy England, I'd love an Italy one. Chad: Well, if there is one, I'm ringing Bumf, I'm being like, nice. What intelligence do you have? I'm taking them all. Byron: In Italian, yes. And then yes, Scotland beating France would definitely shake up the competition the most. But also if France, if France dominate that game, then it's even regardless of what happens in the final round, it's clear and obvious that France is the best team in the Northern Hemisphere, hands down, clear and obvious. Chad: Yeah. Yeah, well Scotland's currently number two on the log, so it's one verse two. Byron: clear and obvious, yeah. Chad: And then next week's game is irrelevant. Byron: Irrelevant. I'm the Six Nations. It's good. ⁓ Chad: I am and I said it before but this is the first six nations that I've actually been invested in and wanting to watch. Yeah I would never have woken up two years ago at to watch a rugby game that had France versus Scotland. wouldn't have been able to watch. Yeah. Byron: And totally worth it, right? Yeah, but now you're like, can't fucking wait. Yeah, yeah, I like that. That's cool. I guess I can just, I'm not going to dive into it. I'll just let you know that UP Tux is top of the log for the varsity cup. They're only team who's played 3-1-3. ⁓ Eagles, ⁓ Ikeys UJ have all lost one game, one, two. Martis have won one, lost two, and then CUT and Emery's have both lost all three of games. Chad: Yeah. Have you seen any of the new rules being? Have you have you watched any of the games? And the new new law? Byron: I like it. I think I touched on it last week and it's only good for this competition. Because if you watch the varsity cup, if you think that Super Rugby has loose play with great running, know, what it comes down to is the offense so much better than the defense of both sides, you get that exciting rugby. And that's why the tap works. Because within that two minute period, Chad: Yeah. Yep. Byron: you realistically can run the ball from the 22 over the trial line. So it works. But if you look at France's defense, for example, if you take a tap and go on the 22 meter line, you have to hope that you get lucky or France fuck up so that it will work out for you. But you're not gonna most, obviously anyone can score at any time. Chad: Yeah. Yeah. Byron: but most times you're not gonna be able to run the ball that 22 meters in two minutes against the defense like Franz. Who just runs through the defense. No, but varsity cup it works for because it's such expansive running rugby. I mean, let me just read the scores to you. It was the week before was the 83-34, 22-38, 39-19. Chad: Unless you've got an SDAs and you can run through it. Yeah. Byron: 63 15, 42 59, 61 41. It's just, it's a tri extravaganza all over the place. Chad: That is a lot of points. That is a lot of running. Byron: This week, well the Monday that just passed us, 33-17 took speed Martis, Schimmler's beat CUT 71-19, Ikees beat Emery's 32-10, and UJ beat NWU 35-29. It's just running, exciting to watch. So the tap try works for varsity company, but it wouldn't work anywhere else. Chad: Yeah. Maybe it just wouldn't be used as much. Byron: Maybe like high school, right? Chad: Maybe like a recap? And then maybe like super ugly and then maybe. Byron: Shut up Chad, shut up. Alright, so I wanted to touch quickly on the 11 spring box that were called up to the camp that are uncapped and then I wanted to hear from you about Mr. Dave Rennie. Chad: Mm-hmm. Hmm. Byron: So first off, the Springbok Alignment Camp is coming up and there's a few players that are uncapped. And it kind of ties into what you said a little earlier about going for depth leading into 2027. So read out the names. In the forwards, we have Kai Pratt, Emmanuel Tituka, Sipo Setu, Mhmm Belele. I think I got that. Chad: You fucking nailed that, I thought, yeah. Byron: I know because those who don't know, before the pod, I stuttered I stuttered my... off when I was trying to read that Paul de Villiers, Riley Norton, Le Canier, who we've spoken about in crazy amounts of details, Batubele Canier, ⁓ and Williams make up the forwards. The backs that are uncapped and are part of the alignment squad. Marcus Muller, Sebastian de Klerk, Cheswell Yoster, and Hashim Pede. Chad: You what's wild? Is all those oaks are unreal. And so young, ⁓ Eusta was in the, yeah, baby box. Byron: Yeah. Okay, Some of them are under 18, some of them are under 20. Obviously you get someone like Emmanuel Chituka who's still young, but he's got a lot more experience in URC, Curry Cup, that sort of thing. We've spoken about Le Canier playing for the Lions, course. Pied also part of the Lions squad. Some of these guys play for the Stormers as well. But it's exciting for them to get into this... environment into this where they get to learn from these top players and it's exciting to see what's going to come from it. Chad: Yeah, I don't expect all 11 to play at some point this next season. I reckon it's just to put them in, get them used to the structures, how it all works, get them in line. Byron: And also find out who's ready at the moment and who's not. You know, cause you can watch them play week in and week out for their club sides or if you watch the under 18 World Cup or the under 20 World Cup. But you want to see them in person moving the ball around. Who's got it, who doesn't have it, who can get it with the right guidance, that sort of stuff. Yeah, it's cool. I think it's awesome. Chad: Yeah. I wonder if there's a social aspect to it. it's done and everyone's chilling, having a lack of bra, if Russie's still got his glasses on to see if the boys are going there just to sing Puss ⁓ or, yeah. Byron: I think that that has to play a massive role. Obviously you want the best player to be playing all the time. But think Rossi has expressed that many times before that the cohesion and the chemistry of the team matters a lot. So I think even ⁓ the pitch, off the pitch, think all those things matters. All those things matter. Chad: Yeah. Yeah, but that's what I'm saying. Like, I wonder if that's what, if that's like part of the unofficial test. Yeah. Byron: Test. Yeah. It wouldn't surprise me. Chad: Yeah. Byron: ⁓ then I guess the last thing to discuss, which is kind of big because I don't think either of us even had this guy's name on our watch list. But Dave Rennie is the new All Blacks coach. Chad: Yeah. Crazy. Crazy, crazy, crazy. I wasn't expecting it. I honestly thought it was going to be Jamie Joseph. Uh, thought he had it in the bag. Um, yeah. Old Aussie coach now up in, um, Japan. Done good things there. Um, it was really interesting hearing him talk. uh, watched a little bit of his, um, speech that he gave when he got announced. Byron: Yeah. Mm-hmm. Chad: ⁓ basically saying that he's got no tires or no, is the word he used? He's got no loyalty to any of the players here because he's not coaching. Yeah, no, he said loyalty. So he's got no loyalty to coaching staff here, which is kind of a worry for the poor assistant coaches that have just been in limbo basically. Gonna get sacked pretty soon. and then same the players, but what he did kind of touch on. Byron: Okay. Chad: And I don't know, I might have taken what he said out of context, but he basically was saying that have any loyalty to New Zealand players, but and he plays a lot with Brody Ritalik, Mawanga, all the guys that are over in Japan. So maybe he's going to try and get the New Zealand rugby to change their selection protocol. Byron: To have Moanga back in the New Zealand squad is terrifying. Chad: Ormulon is going to come back to Crusaders next year. Byron: just in time for the World Cup. Chad: Yep, it was always part of the plan. Byron: Fuck, that's terrifying. Chad: That's no good. good. Him and Will Jordan. ⁓ fucking hate the two of them. They do that dumb fucking kick. ⁓ fantastic. Byron: I told you, that's all I saw last week in the Super rugby, but no one could pull it off because no one's World Jordan. Chad: Yeah, no one's Will Jordan and nobody, Mwanga and Barrett can just do it so easily. It's stupid. I love watching it when they in the Crusaders jersey. It's fantastic. When it's in a black jersey, it's Byron: Perfectly. Yeah. Yeah, because it's usually against someone in a green jersey and it hurts to watch exactly. Chad: That's yeah, you just like God that I can always see it coming every single time. I'm like, yeah, comes this fucking kick. Byron: Yeah, because whenever there's a gap there, but you can't leave someone there. Chad: I I know, I know, I know. I'll put a little clip in if I've got time, but yeah. Byron: Okay, no, So just ⁓ little that I looked up on Dave Rennie. Obviously under 20s coach, super rugby coach, now coach, well was coaching in Japan. Coached the Australian side. Chad: And wallabies. fact about Dave Reany, his record against the Springbox is like a ⁓ Byron: Yes? Done done. Chad: Just a long time ago, long, long time ago, but. Byron: Still count. There was a question that got thrown around that I thought was pretty interesting ⁓ you think that the All Blacks coaching job is the best rugby union coaching job in the world? Chad: No. I don't think it's what it used to be. I think it's that important, prestigious, if you will, but... Byron: I would say it's the most prestigious coaching job. Chad: that over the spring box. I've had cause it Byron: Internationally, yes. Everyone knows the All Blacks and they know that South Africa is dominant in World Rugby. But if you talk to average international layman when it comes to rugby, they'll say the All Blacks before they say the Springboks. And correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think South Africa's had a head coach that hasn't been South African. Chad: No, I can't think of one. Byron: and New Zealand has had many people coach that were not from New Zealand, correct? Chad: But also, have they? Byron: I don't know, I'm fucking asking, I genuinely don't know. ⁓ Chad: I don't think so. They haven't had many. Where is Dave really even from? Byron: My dumb ass just assumes Australia, but... Chad: Have a look here. Byron: No, he's a... he's a kiwi. Chad: He's New Zealand, yeah he's a Kiwi. Byron: Or now I need to ask the question, has All Blacks had coach ⁓ not New Zealand? Chad: Yeah. But yeah, sorry, back to what we were talking about. No, Byron: No, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead. Chad: ⁓ I don't think it's the most procedure. think it's probably one of the most stressful jobs because they were so dominant for such a long time that anytime there's a little bit of dip in performance, it's seen as this. Byron: Yeah. ⁓ Chad: horrible thing, which is a shame because that kind of pressures kind of not warranted. But it's gonna be interesting to see. He's obviously got more international experience as a international coach than Razor did. And I feel like they'll be very different coaches because Razor From what I've read online, it kind of seems like what he was trying to do was take what was working at the Crusaders and make the All Blacks the Crusaders. Not going into the All Blacks and making the All Blacks their own entity. I like that's kind of what went wrong and I feel like Renny will come in and make the All Blacks the All Blacks again, which is... Byron: Bringing out the best of the Oblacks, yeah. Chad: I'm No, no good. But it only comes in like a month before greatest robbery. So there is some hope. Byron: Terrifying. Yeah, but talk about the best place to find out what needs to change, then playing the best team in the world. By the rankings, not by my opinion. ⁓ Although at this point, if Ireland win another game or two, they could become world number one. Actually, if Ireland lose a game or two, they could become world number one. We don't actually know. ⁓ Chad: Four times. It is your opinion too. Number one. Yeah. Yeah. But they might just hand over the rugby on. That's a thing to say in mind. Byron: ⁓ also we didn't even talk about it, the Six Nations trophy is gone. Chad: Burnt. wonder what will happen. Like I don't know if they'll get a new one. Do they just polish like spit shine the other one get the base on it? Byron: Well, they said that one's not repairable. Chad: Yeah, nice. What are they doing with it? Who burns it? I don't even know what happened. I know it got burned, but how? Byron: So now, do you go and... Yeah, it was it was in a car and the car there was a car accident and the car caught a light and the the trophy was inside the car. Chad: I've seen a lot of car accidents. I've never seen a car on fire. Byron: Well, this one was. Chad: That is, wow, that seems like... Yeah, I saw the rugby guy, the rugby guy on Instagram and stuff made a really funny reel about it. Did you see? Byron: Crazy. Nah, I'll go check it out after this. Chad: I was in it. It's basically like an Irishman holding a lighter and he says, have you seen what happened? Throws the lighter away. That's funny. Byron: now, there's enough time, surely, between now ⁓ when's the final game? It's two weeks from now. Chad: I think so, Byron: 14th or the 15th of March. 14th March at 9 p.m. We know France is going to win it. So France play England at 9 p.m. They have from now or from when it happened a few days ago till then to have someone make ⁓ the look. ⁓ You to make the same trophy. Chad: They're not 3D printing the fucking thing. made of silver. Byron: So, do you think that they can't find silver that big? Chad: ⁓ love to be in your brain for one day. ⁓ Byron: You tell them in two weeks they can't make a new trophy. Chad: Probably not. I don't think it's that simple. It's not like you can just pop down to Woolworths and say, ⁓ grab one of them silver cups, please. Byron: Okay. No, but okay, so let's say it's a very, very hard thing to do because I genuinely don't know how hard it is to make a trophy. Chad: I'm going to, it's going to be the dumbest thing I've ever put into my Google search. Byron: ⁓ Harley-Dot that. Chad: you Byron: But my question is if they can't have a trophy ready. Chad: Approximately 12 weeks. using traditional silver silver smith techniques It's very complex. It's a very complex manufacturing process, Byron. don't know what you thought it was. Byron: I should become a Swiff. Okay. I just can't, I mean if you watch like people do metallurgy right, or they, a blacksmith creates something. There's already a mold, pour the fucking silver into the mold, shine it up, move on with your day. Chad: Yes, one day. Just one day in there to see what it's like. Byron: It's hollow, I can tell you that much. thoughts ⁓ off the walls, that's how empty it is. ⁓ so ⁓ a 12 week complicated process, so there's no trophy in two weeks. Fine, okay. What do they... Chad: I can tell really quickly the lead times. There is one here that says four, eight to 12 weeks. So best case scenario, eight weeks. Byron: weeks. Okay. Alright, so now end of the game. I'm talking local time now in France. Game kicks off at 9 10. So at 10 30 11 PM, whenever they do the trophy ceremony, what does France lift? Chad: It's the fucking boons. It's the... Yeah! Like an IOU Yeah boys, it's ⁓ It's fun. We did for fun. We're having fun. The Rayburn Shield! They can hold that. Byron: 3D printed version of the 6NICES trophy. ⁓ Congratulations, you don't fucking win anything though. We'll mail you one. Oh yeah, because they would win it from Scotland. Chad: Mmm. There you go. Byron: So obviously now the Rayburn shield's real. It's a physical thing. He carries it around like the... What's that oak from 300, the one who couldn't lift the shield? Chad: Yeah, I know what you're talking about, Byron: That's rude. I'm sorry. That is a good oak. There's no need for me to say that. He's a good oak. Anyway. Chad: It punishes the dick to everybody Byron: I'm just a dick. So ⁓ happens now if like the international games see it, buy into it, and Scotland play France on Saturday, Scotland goes, we'll take that and if France beat us, we give it to them. Do think he'd give it up? Chad: That's a fucking great question. Maybe. I reckon he would. Byron: Because then I would say like for him to let that go around and if the team who has it gets beat, they have like a, they put it on the broadcast the Scottish captain giving it to the French captain. I think that's pretty dope. Chad: Yeah, no, it is sick. They actually have a really similar thing here for the NPC called the Rayburn Shield. That's, ⁓ no, Ranferly Shield. Byron: I was gonna say, hold on. I don't know if it's copyrighted, but hold on. Chad: Yeah, yeah, the red thing, it's actually pretty cool the way they do it, but you, you, win it. and you, it up for a challenge. Your next home game. That's yeah. So it's actually pretty cool. ⁓ so not as, not as fun as the, as Dave's one. Yeah. Byron: ⁓ so you can only lose it at a home game? Imagine for him how cool it would be if Scotland give it to France and then France lift that March 14th. Chad: So cool. Incredible. That'd be so sick. And then we can take it off for France. Byron: That would be dope for him. I know this is still your dream, so yes, I'm not going to beat it out of you. That's all there is to rugby. Cricket, we got beat to shit by New Zealand. And then India play England, which if you look at it, India is going to win another T20 World Cup. Chad: Can it happen? It is all the right gear. I've already spoken about it. Don't want to talk about it again. Please guys, I don't want New Zealand and I don't want England doing it. Byron: It would hurt my soul if England won the Cricket World Cup. Chad, I think we cut the cock. Chad: I think we did, Byron. I think we've done it all. Dave Rennie, Dave Rennie. Coach, well done. Byron: Chad would like to have you on the show, you would spare a minute for us. Chad: Yeah, yeah, well, he's... Yeah, and I absolutely won't information into the Springbot camp with all my connections. ⁓ this mark is actually plugged. Byron: Chad wants to ask you what are your plans and how are you going to not beat the Spring Bucks? I was gonna say, because we have a direct line into the Springbok app. We don't even use phones or text. We actually talk via walkie talkie. That's how direct it is. Chad: Yeah, so that's actually just a long cable straight from here into bedroom. Byron: Does it also have a cup on the other side? Chad: Yeah. ⁓ Byron: All right, thanks for watching. If you're still watching, appreciate all the love and support. Please don't forget to like, share and subscribe. ⁓ Chad: We're trying to get to a thousand subscribers on YouTube. So 885, I think. So. Byron: Yeah, get your uncle to subscribe. Ask your auntie if she'll subscribe. If your dog's got an account, let your dog subscribe. Doesn't matter. We're all friends, we all share. Chad: We do. Byron: Yep. All right, that's it. Adios. Chad: Cheers, see you next week.