Latest / Early Edition with Ryan Bridge / Full Show Podcast: 18 November 2025
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- 0:01Speaker 1: The issues, the interviews and the insight. Andrew Dickens on
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- 0:12Speaker 2: Be well, good morning to you, Welcome into your Tuesday.
- 0:17Speaker 2: I'm Andrew Dickens coming up over the next sixty minutes.
- 0:19Speaker 2: It was a landmark decision that will affect the gig economy.
- 0:22Speaker 2: We're going to talk to the uber driver who took
- 0:24Speaker 2: on the company and one. He's next. We've hit phase
- 0:28Speaker 2: three of the process to take police out of mental
- 0:31Speaker 2: health responses.
- 0:32Speaker 3: Where are we at?
- 0:32Speaker 2: We'll talk about that in ten Australian schools join Kiwi
- 0:36Speaker 2: schools in closing down over asbestosphears. We'll go to Australia
- 0:39Speaker 2: and what are the changes to the rules over importing cars?
- 0:43Speaker 2: Will it make for a cheaper drive? We'll have that
- 0:46Speaker 2: just before six o'clock. We're going to have correspondence from
- 0:49Speaker 2: right around New Zealand and around the world of news
- 0:51Speaker 2: as it breaks and you can have your say by
- 0:53Speaker 2: sending me a text at The number is ninety two
- 0:55Speaker 2: ninety two and its small charge applies and it's seven
- 0:58Speaker 2: after five. The agenda it's Tuesday, the eighteenth of November
- 1:04Speaker 2: to Bangladesh and their former Prime minister. Sheikh Hasina has
- 1:08Speaker 2: been sentenced to death in absentia over the last year's
- 1:12Speaker 2: deadly student protests where fourteen hundred people were killed. She
- 1:16Speaker 2: denies the charges, calling the trial political.
- 1:19Speaker 4: For protesters here, the death penalty is not enough. They
- 1:22Speaker 4: want more, even if that means marching towards the abandoned
- 1:26Speaker 4: family home of Sheikh Hasina's father, Sheek Mujibur Rahman and
- 1:31Speaker 4: demolishing it. They want to remove any remaining signs of
- 1:34Speaker 4: that family. That's the kind of public anger among many
- 1:37Speaker 4: over here.
- 1:38Speaker 2: To the United Kingdom and the government there has announced
- 1:41Speaker 2: a big asylum shakeup. It's pushing faster deportations. Even approved
- 1:46Speaker 2: asylum seekers could be sent home if their country becomes safe,
- 1:52Speaker 2: and three African nations are on notice help with the
- 1:54Speaker 2: removals or say goodbye to UK visas.
- 1:57Speaker 5: I think this is a small step in the right
- 1:59Speaker 5: place direction.
- 2:00Speaker 2: We're going to need.
- 2:01Speaker 6: A whole series of actions.
- 2:03Speaker 7: You know, our borders plan is very very comprehensive.
- 2:07Speaker 3: We just want to.
- 2:08Speaker 7: Fan all asylum claims completely. We need to be out
- 2:12Speaker 7: of the ECHR, out of the ECAP need.
- 2:14Speaker 3: A removal spurce.
- 2:15Speaker 2: What we have at the moment isn't going to do that.
- 2:17Speaker 2: And finally to the United States of America, where Donald
- 2:20Speaker 2: Trump has done a u turn on his position on
- 2:22Speaker 2: the Epstein files. He's now urged lawmakers in his own
- 2:26Speaker 2: party to vote in favor of releasing the files because,
- 2:30Speaker 2: as he says, he's got nothing to hide.
- 2:32Speaker 5: This is truly a manufacturer hoped by the Democrat Party.
- 2:36Speaker 5: For now, they're talking about it all of a sudden,
- 2:39Speaker 5: because President Trump is in the overlack.
- 2:41Speaker 2: They're using Jeffrey Epstein as a deflection from the tremendous
- 2:45Speaker 2: success that we're having as a party. It's nine after five.
- 2:51Speaker 3: Get ahead of the headlines on early edition with Andrew
- 2:54Speaker 3: Dickens and.
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- 3:00Speaker 1: News talks.
- 3:01Speaker 2: It'd be Oh, when times are tough, blame the government.
- 3:05Speaker 2: That's the truest thing in politics. If you're in charge
- 3:08Speaker 2: of the books, as the economy tanks, then people are
- 3:10Speaker 2: going to take the chance to spit in your face,
- 3:12Speaker 2: which we can see happening right now with polls suggesting
- 3:14Speaker 2: that the National Led Coalition is useless at managing the economy.
- 3:18Speaker 2: And even more surprisingly, the same poll says the previous
- 3:22Speaker 2: lot who did their part in tanking the economy, it's
- 3:24Speaker 2: trusted more so, of course, the left is smiling because
- 3:28Speaker 2: they feel the ground is moving their way. They see
- 3:30Speaker 2: that a capital gains tax doesn't cause widespread revulsion, and
- 3:34Speaker 2: so they're starting to reckon that in a year they
- 3:37Speaker 2: just might be back in the driving seat. But of
- 3:39Speaker 2: course that would be very naive. Think about Australia. In Australia,
- 3:44Speaker 2: before the last election, Peter Dutton and the Coalition were
- 3:47Speaker 2: polling just great for two years before that election, and
- 3:51Speaker 2: they entered the campaign assuming they were the favorite and
- 3:54Speaker 2: Labor was vulnerable. That led to complacency, that led to
- 3:58Speaker 2: late policy announcements that left voters unconvinced about the party's
- 4:02Speaker 2: readiness to govern. And so what happened, Even though Peter
- 4:05Speaker 2: Dutton was the favorite, Albernizi swept home. So this next
- 4:10Speaker 2: election is not necessarily swinging Labour's way and assuming National
- 4:14Speaker 2: as a dead duck would be foolish. The election has
- 4:16Speaker 2: to happen before December next year, and things can change
- 4:19Speaker 2: immensely in that year's time. In fact, I reckon the
- 4:22Speaker 2: real possibility exists that no one votes for anyone because
- 4:27Speaker 2: on the performance of the past two regimes.
- 4:30Speaker 3: Who would Ryan Bridge.
- 4:33Speaker 2: Andrew Dickins in fact, and thank you now, big decision,
- 4:37Speaker 2: and it took a long time to come through, four
- 4:39Speaker 2: years to come through. But the Uber drivers won the
- 4:43Speaker 2: right to call their job a real job, which means
- 4:46Speaker 2: they get all the rights that real jobs have. So
- 4:49Speaker 2: what does this mean. It's got big implications for the
- 4:52Speaker 2: gig economy for everybody who works in this way. Now,
- 4:54Speaker 2: one of the drivers who actually took Uber to court
- 4:58Speaker 2: is also a Wellington City councilor and he joins me next.
- 5:01Speaker 2: His name is Neurdadena abdu Ahmen. And this is early
- 5:04Speaker 2: edition on Newstalk.
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- 5:19Speaker 2: Fourteen out to five. Uber has run out of road
- 5:22Speaker 2: when it comes to appealing their driver's rights. A group
- 5:25Speaker 2: of four drivers has taken their dispute with the global
- 5:27Speaker 2: company to the Supreme Court and one the court recognized
- 5:31Speaker 2: that drivers are employees and should be given the same rights,
- 5:34Speaker 2: and that potentially means things like guaranteed minimum wage, sick
- 5:37Speaker 2: leave and annual leave. Two it was a five mil decision.
- 5:41Speaker 2: Nurdadena abdur Rahman is a driver who took Uber to
- 5:44Speaker 2: court and is also the Wellington City councilor and joins
- 5:46Speaker 2: me now Nurdaden, good morning.
- 5:47Speaker 8: To you, Good morning Andrew.
- 5:49Speaker 2: It's been a long four year fight for you through
- 5:53Speaker 2: three courts and in every court it's been in your favor.
- 5:56Speaker 2: This must be a very satisfying result.
- 5:59Speaker 8: Yes, it's a very long fight, but it's I'm very
- 6:02Speaker 8: pleased and yeah it's I'm beyond proud of all the
- 6:07Speaker 8: three other drivers. And it's a union and first union
- 6:11Speaker 8: for the hard work.
- 6:12Speaker 2: So once you read on the final reading, what will
- 6:14Speaker 2: it mean?
- 6:16Speaker 8: Well, it means basically drivers are like any other employees.
- 6:22Speaker 8: They would have equal rights and they were, they were
- 6:25Speaker 8: to have human rights, and the fight was about employment
- 6:28Speaker 8: right as much as it was a human right.
- 6:31Speaker 2: But what are the ramifications? I mean, will Uber prices
- 6:34Speaker 2: suddenly sky rocket? What is the meaning for the wider
- 6:36Speaker 2: gig economy which has a reason for existing?
- 6:40Speaker 8: Well, I don't, I don't believe so I think Uber
- 6:44Speaker 8: and the last year they make about four hundred million
- 6:47Speaker 8: dollars and then how much they paid in tax i.
- 6:49Speaker 8: Think those are the kind of things they need to
- 6:51Speaker 8: do openly with the community, and it's not going to
- 6:56Speaker 8: be much increase for the for those who use Uber.
- 7:00Speaker 8: I think it's about fairness.
- 7:03Speaker 2: Will this have an international impact on the gig economy model?
- 7:09Speaker 8: Well, I think it should and it will. What it
- 7:12Speaker 8: means it's in a positive way. And look, drivers are
- 7:17Speaker 8: in this case, they're saying they know what it is
- 7:19Speaker 8: good for them, and instead of Uber telling them why
- 7:22Speaker 8: it's good for drivers and the drivers they say they
- 7:25Speaker 8: want to have sickly, they want to have a minimum wage,
- 7:29Speaker 8: and they want to have most importantly, a decent way
- 7:33Speaker 8: of dealing when they get dismissed for reason, they believe
- 7:36Speaker 8: it's not the right one. And I think this is
- 7:38Speaker 8: a very simple question to ask.
- 7:41Speaker 2: Well, many have said, if you want these better benefits,
- 7:44Speaker 2: these better wages, and you want to drive a taxi,
- 7:47Speaker 2: then dry dry, you know, join a taxi company. What
- 7:50Speaker 2: do you say to that.
- 7:52Speaker 8: Well, I think I myself I used to drive taxi
- 7:55Speaker 8: before I joined Uber. But that's the whole system was
- 7:59Speaker 8: check injur doing Uber joined the business and the business
- 8:04Speaker 8: model has changed since then in a big way, and
- 8:08Speaker 8: no one wants to be driving Uber until driving Uber
- 8:12Speaker 8: becomes like kind of the only way to survive. And
- 8:17Speaker 8: if you ask me, I wouldn't be driving Uba. I've
- 8:19Speaker 8: had just still got an opportunity to do better than taxi.
- 8:23Speaker 2: But I've heard there's currently too many drivers, not enough rides.
- 8:26Speaker 2: So there's more than enough people who still want to
- 8:28Speaker 2: work under the Uber model.
- 8:32Speaker 8: Well, look the system we currently have. There are so
- 8:36Speaker 8: many drivers who what There are so many people who
- 8:40Speaker 8: are looking for work and they need a job. And
- 8:43Speaker 8: then Uber is using the human resource that we have
- 8:47Speaker 8: to exploit for their own benefit. And that is why
- 8:51Speaker 8: we need a loan in this country. The load that
- 8:53Speaker 8: just says no, it doesn't matter how many people are
- 8:56Speaker 8: out there looking for a job. They deserve right like
- 9:00Speaker 8: everyone else. And that is why the Supreme Court agree
- 9:04Speaker 8: was the drivers in the scars.
- 9:05Speaker 2: Well, congratulations new Adena and thank you so much for
- 9:08Speaker 2: joining us new abdul Ahman, the Uber driver who took
- 9:11Speaker 2: Uber to court, also a Wellington City councilor as well.
- 9:14Speaker 2: Of course, Brook van Velden is the Employment Minister and
- 9:17Speaker 2: she hasn't read the judgment, but she respects the ruling
- 9:20Speaker 2: of the court, and she says the case highlights the
- 9:22Speaker 2: existing gray area in employment and contract law that the
- 9:25Speaker 2: Employment Relations Amendment Bill aims to address, which she says,
- 9:29Speaker 2: will clarify the boundary between being an employee or a
- 9:32Speaker 2: contractor and cract more certainty for parties to a working arrangement.
- 9:37Speaker 2: And that's currently before solect Committee and Brook van Velden
- 9:39Speaker 2: will be joining Mike Hoskin after six o'clock this morning. Meanwhile,
- 9:43Speaker 2: I've had a text from Zane, and Zane says, I'm
- 9:45Speaker 2: a part time gig worker and I disagree with the
- 9:48Speaker 2: Supreme Court ruling. It completely misses the point. The freedom
- 9:52Speaker 2: to work when I want is the whole reason gig
- 9:55Speaker 2: work exists. These four drivers might have meant well, but
- 9:58Speaker 2: they have now put that free and the whole gig
- 10:01Speaker 2: economy at risk for the rest of us. Gig work
- 10:04Speaker 2: works because it's flexible. Don't break what is not broken.
- 10:09Speaker 2: And I have personal experience here. My son is trying
- 10:11Speaker 2: to make a life of Melbourne right now and he's
- 10:13Speaker 2: been doing a little bit of Uber Eats delivery on
- 10:16Speaker 2: his bicycle and every now and then when he's sort
- 10:18Speaker 2: of a bit of a bit of cash, he goes
- 10:20Speaker 2: out and does two hours of delivery, gets himself fifty
- 10:23Speaker 2: bucks and he says, it's not a real job, it's
- 10:25Speaker 2: a bit of fast, flexible money and that's the point
- 10:28Speaker 2: of it. So yeah, we'll see where we go with
- 10:31Speaker 2: all of this. What do you think you can text me?
- 10:33Speaker 2: Ninety two? Ninety two is the number to text now.
- 10:37Speaker 2: It is nineteen minutes after five. And the police, of
- 10:39Speaker 2: course is slowly withdrawing from responding to mental health emergencies.
- 10:43Speaker 2: They're into phase three. What does this mean? We'll talk
- 10:45Speaker 2: to the police next.
- 10:47Speaker 1: Andrew Dickens on early edition with r V Supercenter explore
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- 10:55Speaker 2: By twenty one. So Police and Health New Zealand are
- 10:58Speaker 2: pressing ahead with Phase three of their mental health response changes,
- 11:02Speaker 2: shifting more responsibility onto health teams and away from police.
- 11:06Speaker 2: And it means that police will no longer be involved
- 11:08Speaker 2: in mental health callouts eventually unless there is an immediate
- 11:11Speaker 2: safety risk. So I'm joined now by Steve Watt, who
- 11:14Speaker 2: is the Police Association Present GADATA.
- 11:17Speaker 9: Steve Marina.
- 11:19Speaker 2: Is this whole scheme working the slow withdrawal.
- 11:22Speaker 9: Look, it absolutely is, and it's a good news story
- 11:25Speaker 9: for not only our members, but members of the public
- 11:28Speaker 9: and also those that are suffering from mental health issues
- 11:32Speaker 9: about getting the response that they need, which is mental
- 11:35Speaker 9: health clinicians. And that's alleviating the pressure put being put
- 11:39Speaker 9: on place so we can spend more time out there
- 11:42Speaker 9: doing what we do best.
- 11:43Speaker 2: The fear is that we're going to end out with
- 11:45Speaker 2: some people being left behind.
- 11:46Speaker 9: Are they No, not at all, And that's why this
- 11:50Speaker 9: has been a phased approach to allow Health New Zealand
- 11:54Speaker 9: to head the services available so that as we slowly
- 11:58Speaker 9: withdraw from the mental health arena, the services are in
- 12:03Speaker 9: place so that no one's getting left behind.
- 12:05Speaker 2: Our officers relieved at the changes.
- 12:08Speaker 9: Oh absolutely. You know, it frees up roughly half a
- 12:10Speaker 9: million police hours each year that we're spent responding to
- 12:16Speaker 9: mental health call outs, So that's time that can be
- 12:18Speaker 9: better spent elsewhere within the community doing what we do best.
- 12:24Speaker 2: So what happens the first time someone harms himself and
- 12:27Speaker 2: police weren't there to respond, Do you think that responsibility
- 12:31Speaker 2: should rely on the police?
- 12:34Speaker 8: No?
- 12:34Speaker 9: Look, we'll always turn up to those jobs where life
- 12:38Speaker 9: is in danger or being threatened, So there's no you know,
- 12:42Speaker 9: there's a reduced risk that we are still there to
- 12:45Speaker 9: respond to those jobs that require us, all right.
- 12:48Speaker 2: And police are now not automatically involved in missing persons
- 12:51Speaker 2: from mental health facilities. So does that pose a risk
- 12:55Speaker 2: to the community.
- 12:57Speaker 9: No, not at all. Look, and it's not actually withdrawing
- 13:00Speaker 9: from that. There's still a process in place where those
- 13:04Speaker 9: missing persons from mental health can be reported to us
- 13:07Speaker 9: will make an assessment as to whether our services are
- 13:10Speaker 9: required or not, So there is still the ability there
- 13:13Speaker 9: to have police respond in those circumstances.
- 13:16Speaker 2: All right, Well, Steve, carry on with the good work,
- 13:18Speaker 2: and I thank you for your time today. Steve. What
- 13:20Speaker 2: is the Association? The Police Association President? And this is
- 13:24Speaker 2: News Talks B and it's five twenty four and more
- 13:26Speaker 2: texts coming in on the Uber scenario, Andrew, I'm an
- 13:29Speaker 2: Uber driver and I disagree with the ruling. I'm wondering
- 13:31Speaker 2: if the Wellington City councilor that spoke to you realizes
- 13:36Speaker 2: that under the employee model, most drivers will lose the
- 13:39Speaker 2: ability to work for them, plus most or all of
- 13:42Speaker 2: the flexibility will be lost, which is the critical part
- 13:45Speaker 2: of the gig economy model. What do you think? Ninety
- 13:47Speaker 2: two ninety two is the text. It is five twenty four.
- 13:50Speaker 1: The early edition full the show podcast on iHeartRadio Power
- 13:56Speaker 1: It by News Talks at B News.
- 13:59Speaker 2: Talks BI twenty six Andred Dickinson for Ryan Bridge. So
- 14:03Speaker 2: the latest plan to fix central Wellington traffic has been
- 14:06Speaker 2: released for consultation and it's a big old monster of
- 14:08Speaker 2: a thing. There's a couple of tunnels, a new one
- 14:10Speaker 2: at the Terrace end of the motorway and another new
- 14:12Speaker 2: tunnel through Mount Victoria Land and houses will be taken
- 14:16Speaker 2: out of the town belt at Mount Victoria and parkland
- 14:18Speaker 2: will be taken at the Terrace. There will be a
- 14:20Speaker 2: major redesign of the Basin Reserve roundabout and a bridge
- 14:23Speaker 2: maybe near the airport. And the price tag three billion dollars,
- 14:29Speaker 2: ironically the same sort of cost for two ports and
- 14:31Speaker 2: two ferries to cross Cork Strait that was thought to
- 14:34Speaker 2: be wildly expensive at the time. So the immediate reaction
- 14:37Speaker 2: to this plan is that it's wildly expensive, which it
- 14:40Speaker 2: is wildly expensive and totally predictable. The Rongatai Airport, Wellington's
- 14:47Speaker 2: airport was opened to nineteen fifty nine and from day
- 14:50Speaker 2: one to get to it you would dependent on the
- 14:52Speaker 2: Mount vic Tunnel, which opened in nineteen thirty one two
- 14:55Speaker 2: lanes and that's it. It should have been expanded when
- 14:59Speaker 2: they build the airport. The Mountvick Tunnel is Wellington's Auckland
- 15:04Speaker 2: harbor Bridge moment, a piece of insufficient infrastructure that has
- 15:08Speaker 2: only got worse. And you could argue the same thing
- 15:10Speaker 2: about the Terrace Tunnel that was built ending abruptly in
- 15:13Speaker 2: a tiny urban streets designed before the rides of the automobile.
- 15:16Speaker 2: And meanwhile, of course some of Mount Vick's funky houses
- 15:19Speaker 2: are going to be destroyed and that will get right
- 15:21Speaker 2: up the nose of the inner city residents, the ones
- 15:23Speaker 2: who don't have to drive far at all. So anyway,
- 15:25Speaker 2: console consultation is open now and what am I expecting.
- 15:30Speaker 2: I'm expecting it to be rancorous because it's expensive and
- 15:33Speaker 2: houses are being disappeared. But you know, it's the bed
- 15:37Speaker 2: Wellington chose to lie in when building an inner city
- 15:41Speaker 2: airport and not making the hard cause earlier. And that
- 15:44Speaker 2: also means strife for the good people of Candala who
- 15:47Speaker 2: are complaining about the plane noise over their suburb. After
- 15:50Speaker 2: the flight paths changed in twenty twenty two, of course
- 15:53Speaker 2: they would prefer the flights when over Newlands where they
- 15:57Speaker 2: used to go. Well, the people of Newlands are loving
- 16:00Speaker 2: the change fight path. But as soon as you put
- 16:02Speaker 2: your airport at wrong attide, this was bound to happen.
- 16:05Speaker 2: So on all of this, you can't really complain about
- 16:08Speaker 2: the bill that you've inherited from your forebears who lacked foresight.
- 16:14Speaker 3: News Talk said, be.
- 16:16Speaker 2: So we're talking to the guys from the Uber who
- 16:18Speaker 2: took the company to court, and now I'm just getting
- 16:20Speaker 2: reaction after reaction from Uber drivers who are in this
- 16:23Speaker 2: gig economy. Matt writes, I'm a part time Uber driver.
- 16:26Speaker 2: This court decision is wrong. Many Uber drivers are on
- 16:29Speaker 2: multiple platforms, Uber Bolt, and some even double as taxi
- 16:32Speaker 2: company drivers and own their own retail businesses like dairies
- 16:36Speaker 2: and such. So, for instance, Abdu Rahman, the fellow we
- 16:41Speaker 2: talked to, he's also a Wellington City councilor. The thing
- 16:45Speaker 2: is that he's asking if they have a sick day,
- 16:48Speaker 2: which company pays and what about the flexibility this allows?
- 16:53Speaker 2: And another one, Henry says, you'll call one of the
- 16:55Speaker 2: rights of an employee of a taxi company, but working
- 16:58Speaker 2: for a taxi company was less lucrative them working for Uber.
- 17:02Speaker 2: I don't get the logic of them destroying the Uber
- 17:04Speaker 2: model to make it more like the taxi model, bringing
- 17:06Speaker 2: everybody down to the same level. So a lot of
- 17:08Speaker 2: the Uber drivers are not thankful for this action. We'll
- 17:11Speaker 2: have more on this with Book van Velden, who's joining
- 17:13Speaker 2: Mike Hosking after six o'clock this morning. Australia has the
- 17:17Speaker 2: asbestos problem as well. We'll go to Australia shortly and
- 17:21Speaker 2: before six. What about these new rules about clin car standards?
- 17:25Speaker 2: Will it be in a cheaper car? This is early edition.
- 17:27Speaker 2: It's US talks HEB.
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- 18:01Speaker 2: Why did you welcome to your Tuesday morning the eighteenth
- 18:04Speaker 2: of November. Want to do a congratulations of course to
- 18:07Speaker 2: Andrew Oldison who, in talking about cricket and voodoo and
- 18:10Speaker 2: the Congo, played a little bit of Jimmy Hendricks and
- 18:12Speaker 2: Voodoo Child that's art. That really is got some funky
- 18:17Speaker 2: stories for you from around New Zealand. Russell or wrong
- 18:19Speaker 2: Obey Holiday Park as removing all televisions from its accommodation,
- 18:24Speaker 2: encouraging visitors to get outside and back into nature. They're
- 18:28Speaker 2: going to be one of the first holiday parks in
- 18:30Speaker 2: New Zealand to go completely TV TV free, TV three
- 18:36Speaker 2: but TV free. What do you think about this? I mean,
- 18:39Speaker 2: is this a little bit overbearing by the holiday park
- 18:41Speaker 2: and by the manager. He apparently just hates seeing kids
- 18:44Speaker 2: on screen, so then decided write no screens at my park.
- 18:47Speaker 2: He's a very jovial chap and he's on with Mike
- 18:49Speaker 2: after six and sew in. District Councilors set to trial
- 18:52Speaker 2: a new rubber road surface in January in New Zealand.
- 18:55Speaker 2: First it'll be on State Highway seventy seven's Glen Tunnel.
- 18:57Speaker 2: They use recycled rubber annuals now. I think this is
- 19:01Speaker 2: probably a good thing. When you see all the tire
- 19:03Speaker 2: mountains that farmers store on their land, you have to
- 19:06Speaker 2: say this is a good thing that the tires can
- 19:08Speaker 2: actually be recycled into something new and something good. I'm
- 19:10Speaker 2: not sure though, if the farmers were making some money
- 19:12Speaker 2: out of that, will agree, But that story also with
- 19:15Speaker 2: Mike after six and of course big changes are coming
- 19:17Speaker 2: to New Zealand's clean car standard. The current penalties and
- 19:21Speaker 2: targets have been putting pressure on supply and pushed up
- 19:25Speaker 2: costs for consumers. How much the clean car standard has
- 19:28Speaker 2: been linked to a twenty five percent drop in vehicle
- 19:30Speaker 2: imports and a thirty percent rise and use car prices,
- 19:35Speaker 2: making popular family vehicles almost unsellable. But here's the question.
- 19:39Speaker 2: Are they just wanting to keep on selling old polluting
- 19:43Speaker 2: models on kiwis claiming that they're looking after the consumer?
- 19:47Speaker 2: Is the government wanting us to have a cheap fleet
- 19:49Speaker 2: and not a good fleet? We'll look at this story
- 19:51Speaker 2: just before six right here on early edition. That's twenty one.
- 19:54Speaker 3: To six news Talk Sibby time to go.
- 19:57Speaker 2: Right around the nation to Duaneeda and Otaga, We go
- 20:00Speaker 2: Cadam Proact to good morning to you morning Andrew. So
- 20:03Speaker 2: as Southern students done some research and been rewarded for it.
- 20:08Speaker 5: Yeah, this is quite remarkable for a year twelve South
- 20:11Speaker 5: and Girls High School student who names Sophie Inison, she's
- 20:13Speaker 5: been awarded the fifty thousand dollars Student Endeavor Award by
- 20:17Speaker 5: Prime Minister Chris Luxon and Space Minister Judith Collins for
- 20:21Speaker 5: her work. Sophie's project focuses on how wounds heal and space.
- 20:26Speaker 5: She's designed ways to prevent infection within the context of microgravity,
- 20:30Speaker 5: low pressure, antibiotic resistant bacteria and lunar dust. All this
- 20:35Speaker 5: in year twelve. The Prime Minister says, the prize highlights
- 20:38Speaker 5: the extraordinary talent driving the space industry.
- 20:41Speaker 2: Excellent stuff. How's your weather?
- 20:43Speaker 5: Occasional rain here today with a strong nor'easter we get
- 20:46Speaker 5: to twenty four today.
- 20:47Speaker 2: And I thank you Chris Sherwoo from christ Churche Good morning,
- 20:49Speaker 2: Good morning, christ Church gets IQA first we.
- 20:53Speaker 10: Do well, at least a sneak peak of it. Anyway,
- 20:56Speaker 10: The Scandinavian furniture brand is hosting some pop umps, first
- 21:00Speaker 10: here in christ Church, but then another one in a
- 21:02Speaker 10: week or so in Wellington so the public can explore
- 21:05Speaker 10: a collection of IKEA's most popular products ahead of the
- 21:09Speaker 10: official opening of the Auckland store in two weeks time.
- 21:12Speaker 10: Ike ahead of marketing for Australia and New Zealand. Kirsten
- 21:16Speaker 10: Hasler says there'll be around twenty of IKEA's most popular
- 21:20Speaker 10: products on display, as well as their new Zealand pricing.
- 21:23Speaker 10: She says they have been humbled by the excitement of
- 21:26Speaker 10: Kiwi's looking forward to the launch. There are no plans
- 21:29Speaker 10: for a store down here permanently at this point, and
- 21:32Speaker 10: nothing can be purchased today from the pop up, but
- 21:35Speaker 10: they do say these will be the items available to
- 21:37Speaker 10: buy online and from the Auckland store.
- 21:40Speaker 2: This store opens in two weeks time. And look, it's
- 21:42Speaker 2: causing chaos. It's just a furniture store and some meat balls.
- 21:45Speaker 2: But anyway, how's your weather?
- 21:47Speaker 10: High cloud northerly strong this afternoon at a hive twenty
- 21:50Speaker 10: six and.
- 21:51Speaker 2: I thank you. Max Told from Wellington, good morning to you.
- 21:53Speaker 9: Good morning.
- 21:54Speaker 2: I've already spoken a little bit about it, but you're
- 21:56Speaker 2: back into another State Highway one debate.
- 22:00Speaker 7: You said three billion dollars earlier. I think it's going
- 22:02Speaker 7: to cost probably closer to four billion, if not more.
- 22:04Speaker 7: It's obviously going to be a mammoth task of building
- 22:07Speaker 7: this thing. And just to paint a more exact picture,
- 22:10Speaker 7: both new tunnels are essentially going into the existing ones,
- 22:13Speaker 7: so the terrace tunnels would be two lanes northbound, two
- 22:17Speaker 7: lanes southbound. You're essentially dividing the traffic. And then it's
- 22:20Speaker 7: the same logic for the tunnel out toward the Peninsula
- 22:22Speaker 7: and the airport at Mount Victoria. Two lanes out, two
- 22:24Speaker 7: lanes in. You're gonna have a lot of traffic going
- 22:27Speaker 7: both ways around a basin reserve. Now both ways. It's
- 22:30Speaker 7: one way at the moment, three lanes along Vivian Street
- 22:33Speaker 7: through the city, which connects up straight to State Highway One.
- 22:36Speaker 7: It is in some ways very exciting. The pain, as
- 22:38Speaker 7: you say, will obviously just be getting to that point,
- 22:41Speaker 7: and as you say, it will be very painful for
- 22:43Speaker 7: some time. The new meyor Andrew Little, has spoken on it.
- 22:46Speaker 7: He's cautiously on board.
- 22:48Speaker 2: He supports it.
- 22:48Speaker 7: But let's talk a little further about what houses would
- 22:51Speaker 7: inevitably have to be knocked down. There's a crash as
- 22:54Speaker 7: well out by the War Memorial that's gone a lot
- 22:57Speaker 7: more traffic on streets not used to traffic. So yeah,
- 23:00Speaker 7: it will be interesting to see what the public feedback
- 23:03Speaker 7: looks like.
- 23:03Speaker 2: Now, absolutely, boy, I hope you guys like road cones,
- 23:06Speaker 2: because you're going to see an awful lot of them
- 23:07Speaker 2: for an awfully long time. And I did see some
- 23:09Speaker 2: reaction yesterday something saying how long are we going to
- 23:12Speaker 2: tolerate the basin reserve because.
- 23:15Speaker 7: Well they've gone to look at ground, so hopefully forever.
- 23:18Speaker 2: I know, I know, I'm totally with you on that.
- 23:19Speaker 2: But at the same time, if you got rid of it,
- 23:21Speaker 2: you could just go straight through there and have your
- 23:23Speaker 2: problems will be solved. But there we go. How's your weather, Yeah.
- 23:25Speaker 7: Party cloudy, today's strong Northerlys twenty one and.
- 23:28Speaker 2: To what can we go? And neither ret your MANA
- 23:30Speaker 2: good morning to you your reetings. We've got repairs to
- 23:32Speaker 2: the harbour bridge.
- 23:33Speaker 3: That's right, we do.
- 23:34Speaker 6: So what's happening? Excuse me? Water Key is going to
- 23:37Speaker 6: start these vital repairs to the water pipes under Auckland's
- 23:40Speaker 6: Harbor Bridge today. Now this will renew supports for about
- 23:43Speaker 6: one point two kilometers of pipe, which provides two thirds
- 23:47Speaker 6: of the North Shaw's water supply, so very very vital,
- 23:49Speaker 6: and it's part of this larger renewal project which is
- 23:53Speaker 6: going to see about three hundred and fifty million dollars
- 23:55Speaker 6: worth of repairs a year over the next decade. Suzanne
- 23:59Speaker 6: Lucas she is the acting tooth Program delivery officer. She says, quote,
- 24:03Speaker 6: there will be no disruption to water supply or for commuters.
- 24:08Speaker 2: They're good her words, very good. You have very nice tangerine.
- 24:11Speaker 2: Now polish on someday.
- 24:13Speaker 3: Thank you.
- 24:13Speaker 2: To go in the dark, will never lose you turn
- 24:15Speaker 2: the lights off. We'll know exactly where never is.
- 24:17Speaker 11: That's right.
- 24:18Speaker 2: How's Awkan's weather?
- 24:19Speaker 6: Rain some heavy falls in the afternoon. Twenty three is
- 24:21Speaker 6: a high here in Auclid.
- 24:22Speaker 2: We're off to Australia in a few moments time. And
- 24:24Speaker 2: they've got the problems with the asbestos as well. And
- 24:26Speaker 2: every time I've been hearing this asbestos story, I've been going, well,
- 24:28Speaker 2: how the hell did the asbestos get in there? And
- 24:31Speaker 2: apparently the asbestos found in the colored sand products have
- 24:34Speaker 2: come from naturally occurring sources and the raw materials used
- 24:37Speaker 2: to make the sand in China, so it's made in China,
- 24:42Speaker 2: sold in Australia and New Zealand educational colours, Rainbow sand,
- 24:45Speaker 2: creatistics colored sand and candink decorative sand. And the lab
- 24:49Speaker 2: tests found tremolite and chrysotile asbestos in the sand, both
- 24:56Speaker 2: naturally occurring minerals found in certain rocks and soils, and
- 25:00Speaker 2: so if the sand was produced in China by crushing
- 25:02Speaker 2: rock instead of using beach sand, asbestos could have been
- 25:06Speaker 2: present in the source. So the reason all our schools
- 25:09Speaker 2: are closed here and in Australia is because of Chinese
- 25:12Speaker 2: manufacturing standards. Will have more on this in a few
- 25:15Speaker 2: moments time with our correspondent Leslie Yeomans. And this is
- 25:18Speaker 2: early edition. It's sixteen to.
- 25:20Speaker 1: Six International Correspondence with ends and Eye Insurance, Peace of
- 25:24Speaker 1: Mind for New Zealand Business third.
- 25:27Speaker 2: Into six to Australia, we go Leslie Yeomans, good morning,
- 25:31Speaker 2: Good morning Andrew. So just like us, you've got schools
- 25:33Speaker 2: closed because of asbestos and sand.
- 25:36Speaker 11: We have this in the Act around Canberra. We've got
- 25:40Speaker 11: more than seventy schools that have been closed because of
- 25:43Speaker 11: this cating sand which is used in sort of arts
- 25:47Speaker 11: and crafts and play and apparently also it's been sold
- 25:53Speaker 11: in a lot of the large retailers like Target and Kmart.
- 25:56Speaker 11: They've done this big recall of the sand and these
- 26:00Speaker 11: seventy two schools across the ACT have been closed down
- 26:04Speaker 11: while further testing is being done. There's also it's also
- 26:07Speaker 11: been found in the Northern Territory and South Australia as well.
- 26:12Speaker 11: In South Australia, more than one hundred sites have been
- 26:15Speaker 11: identified as using the sand. Northern Territory haven't closed any
- 26:19Speaker 11: schools as yet, but they have closed some classes so
- 26:22Speaker 11: that further testing can be done on this sand. So
- 26:26Speaker 11: it's this asbestos that's been found in it. It's called
- 26:30Speaker 11: it tremolite asbestos and apparently it's found as a natural
- 26:36Speaker 11: sort of asbestos, but we're not really sure exactly how
- 26:40Speaker 11: bad it can be. They're still doing tests on it.
- 26:43Speaker 2: Thank you so much, China. Meanwhile, you've got a koala
- 26:47Speaker 2: colony in out back New South Wales which is under threat.
- 26:51Speaker 11: It is they've been doing some koala testing for koala
- 26:56Speaker 11: numbers in central western New South Wales in the and
- 27:01Speaker 11: the researchers have found this really large colony of koalas.
- 27:06Speaker 11: The only trouble is it's in an area where there
- 27:10Speaker 11: is a coal mine that wants to expand, and the
- 27:14Speaker 11: coal mine is wanting to move into an area about
- 27:18Speaker 11: one hundred and or just over one hundred hectares of
- 27:21Speaker 11: where the koalas are now. The operators of the coal
- 27:24Speaker 11: mine say that they're aware of it, and they're more
- 27:27Speaker 11: than happy to relocate koalas if they come into the
- 27:31Speaker 11: area that the coal mine wants to go to.
- 27:34Speaker 5: But the.
- 27:36Speaker 11: Environmental researchers and the wildlife researchers are saying that that's
- 27:40Speaker 11: maybe not the best thing because this new colony has
- 27:45Speaker 11: really surprised them because they haven't sort of done a
- 27:47Speaker 11: lot of workout in central New South Wales as far
- 27:50Speaker 11: as Koala numbers have gone, and they've been really pleasantly
- 27:54Speaker 11: surprised that they've found this huge colony of koalas out there.
- 27:58Speaker 2: Yes, has anyone asked the Koala how long they feel
- 28:00Speaker 2: about being moved?
- 28:01Speaker 5: There?
- 28:01Speaker 2: We go and I thank you, Leslie yemens all the
- 28:04Speaker 2: very best. It is now eleven minutes after six. Does
- 28:07Speaker 2: that be all right? The government's having another go at
- 28:10Speaker 2: the clean car standard, saying importers just cannot hit the
- 28:14Speaker 2: current targets. It's moving to slash emission charges, cutting the
- 28:18Speaker 2: twenty twenty three Clean Vehicle standard by nearly eighty percent
- 28:21Speaker 2: and the change is expected to save around two hundred
- 28:23Speaker 2: and sixty four million dollars in costs to consumers. And
- 28:26Speaker 2: we'll keep our imported cars cheaper, so let's talk to
- 28:29Speaker 2: Greg Epps, who is the Imported Vehicle Association CEO. Good
- 28:33Speaker 2: morning to.
- 28:33Speaker 3: You, Grego morning.
- 28:35Speaker 12: How are you good?
- 28:35Speaker 9: Matt?
- 28:36Speaker 2: Is this good news for you?
- 28:38Speaker 12: It is. It's really welcome relief. The industry has been
- 28:42Speaker 12: struggling for least the last year and a half under
- 28:46Speaker 12: these targets. I mean, people might call this backsliding, but
- 28:51Speaker 12: when you've set a target so hard that we can't
- 28:54Speaker 12: even get to it, you know, it's not backsliding. It's
- 28:58Speaker 12: being realistic and coming back to what can we actually
- 29:01Speaker 12: do to be bringing cleaner cars into the country.
- 29:04Speaker 2: Government says consumers will save two hundred and sixty four million.
- 29:07Speaker 2: So what does that mean for the prices of used cars.
- 29:11Speaker 12: Well, what we've been seeing is that there's a certain
- 29:15Speaker 12: segment of cars, especially it's the family sized vehicles, those
- 29:20Speaker 12: sort of six and seven seaters that have just been
- 29:23Speaker 12: pushed out of the price range of the family, the
- 29:26Speaker 12: normal key we family. You know, they've they've been suffering
- 29:30Speaker 12: from penalties of nearly three thousand dollars on top of
- 29:34Speaker 12: the price of the vehicle. And when you're looking at
- 29:37Speaker 12: things like a hybrid people Mover, which is a really
- 29:40Speaker 12: good car that you want people to get into, you
- 29:43Speaker 12: put another three thousand dollars on top of the price,
- 29:46Speaker 12: and it just gets out of reach.
- 29:48Speaker 2: What I found interesting is exactly that the hybrids, which
- 29:51Speaker 2: have less emissions than your older cars, we're also getting penalized.
- 29:57Speaker 12: Yeah, and from next year, And the thing is the
- 30:00Speaker 12: penalties that have been cut, the target is still going
- 30:04Speaker 12: to be harder to reach. Next year, it's still it's
- 30:08Speaker 12: still going to go down. So next year, almost all
- 30:12Speaker 12: all hybrids, whether they're new, used, we're going to be penalized.
- 30:16Speaker 12: So we were going to be pushing this technology out
- 30:19Speaker 12: of reach.
- 30:20Speaker 2: And evs were they penalized too.
- 30:23Speaker 12: No evs, if it's a pure EV it would still
- 30:26Speaker 12: have got a credit. But the problem for us is
- 30:30Speaker 12: that in the used sector, Japan hasn't been making evs,
- 30:34Speaker 12: and so there aren't used evs for us to bring
- 30:37Speaker 12: into the country, and so we weren't able to generate credits.
- 30:42Speaker 12: The policy expected you to be able to generate credits
- 30:45Speaker 12: to offset your penalties. But as the as the government
- 30:50Speaker 12: noted yesterday, well over eighty percent of people of importers
- 30:54Speaker 12: bringing cars and we're just being penalized and being penalized
- 30:58Speaker 12: over one thousand dollars A can't Does.
- 31:00Speaker 2: This mean that evs are a bus in that Japan
- 31:03Speaker 2: is not making them? However, China is making thousands.
- 31:07Speaker 12: That's that's the thing I mean. I think what we've
- 31:10Speaker 12: pointed out to the government is that there are really
- 31:13Speaker 12: two markets here. There are new cars, and the new
- 31:15Speaker 12: car manufacturers have got a lot of opportunity to get
- 31:18Speaker 12: out there and find these to say, the Chinese vehicles,
- 31:22Speaker 12: and to push the Japanese manufacturers to head towards evs
- 31:27Speaker 12: as well. But in the used car market, we haven't
- 31:30Speaker 12: had that opportunity. And so you know, we bring affordable
- 31:34Speaker 12: vehicles for Kiwi families and the average Kiwi. We can
- 31:38Speaker 12: bring in class that are cleaner than what we've got here,
- 31:42Speaker 12: and that's how we progress and refresh the fleet and
- 31:45Speaker 12: move it forward. And we can, you know, let's get
- 31:48Speaker 12: as many evs as we can, but we've got to
- 31:51Speaker 12: be realistic about about what the average ki we can afford.
- 31:54Speaker 2: And what do you say to the people that say, oh, great,
- 31:56Speaker 2: we're going to have cheap cars, but we're also going
- 31:58Speaker 2: to have dirty cars.
- 32:02Speaker 12: Every used import that comes in at the moment is
- 32:07Speaker 12: better in terms of CO two than the average vehicle
- 32:10Speaker 12: in the sleep. We're talking about replacing twenty year old
- 32:13Speaker 12: vehicles with a ten year old vehicle that is cleaner.
- 32:17Speaker 12: So we're not we're not bringing dirtier cars, and we're
- 32:21Speaker 12: not bringing dirty cars, and we're actually trying to shift
- 32:25Speaker 12: four million cars and change the composition of that fleet.
- 32:29Speaker 12: So no, we're working to bring that carbon level down,
- 32:34Speaker 12: but it does take time.
- 32:36Speaker 2: Greg, thank you so much for your time this morning.
- 32:38Speaker 2: Greg is the CEO of the Important Motor Vehicles Association.
- 32:42Speaker 2: It is six to six.
- 32:44Speaker 3: The first word on the News of the Day early
- 32:47Speaker 3: edition with Adre.
- 32:48Speaker 1: Dickins and r V Supercenter explore r VS, accessories and
- 32:52Speaker 1: servicing all in one news talks V.
- 32:54Speaker 2: So we talked to the Uber drivers who won yesterday,
- 32:56Speaker 2: the four of them, and we talked earlier this morning,
- 32:59Speaker 2: and I've had reply to reply from real Uber drivers
- 33:02Speaker 2: not agreeing with it. So this is from Robin who says,
- 33:04Speaker 2: I am an Uber driver, I'm a member of the
- 33:06Speaker 2: Uber Drivers Advisory Panel. I interact with Uber regularly. The
- 33:10Speaker 2: court made the only decision it could under the current legislation. However,
- 33:13Speaker 2: the four drivers represent themselves as representing the industry. The
- 33:18Speaker 2: problem is eighty percent of drivers do not want the change.
- 33:22Speaker 2: Maybe they want better conditions, but they don't want to
- 33:24Speaker 2: be employees. They enjoy the flexibility. So yeah, Mike, you're
- 33:29Speaker 2: talking to Brook microphone on.
- 33:31Speaker 13: Please. My reading of it is the judges it was
- 33:37Speaker 13: unanimous and two of them got there differently from the
- 33:40Speaker 13: other three. So it means the law's fairly solid as
- 33:43Speaker 13: far as I can work out. So they'll need to
- 33:46Speaker 13: make a law that allows them to do what they
- 33:48Speaker 13: want to do, because you're right, the gig economy is
- 33:51Speaker 13: based on freedom to do what you want to do,
- 33:55Speaker 13: not what some so they don't seem to be interventionist
- 33:57Speaker 13: as well. I'm saying this court they seem to have
- 33:59Speaker 13: interpreted the law is it currently sits? Anyway, She's with
- 34:01Speaker 13: us and we'll talk about the aforementioned that cow business.
- 34:03Speaker 13: That's funny as so we'll talk about that as well.
- 34:06Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm actually looking forward to the filler from the
- 34:08Speaker 2: holiday park who's got rid of the TVs? That's gonna
- 34:10Speaker 2: be great.
- 34:12Speaker 1: For more from Early Edition with Ryan Bridge. Listen live
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