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Hedieh Mirahmadi Falco: 20 Years In Bondage To Islam, Now Living Fearless In Christ! · Worldview Matters With David Fiorazo

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  Hey friends, you're in for a special treat today. We've got author,
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  podcaster, and columnist Hedia Miramati Falco. She's with us today and has a
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  book out called Living Fearless in Christ. So much to talk about. That's coming up.
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  Welcome to World View Matters, discussing controversial issues,
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  discerning current events, defending biblical Christianity. No topic off
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  limits. And now here's your host, David Firazo. Hey friends, welcome. What I
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  left out was the subtitle of Hedia's book. It is why I left Islam to win
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  battles for the kingdom. Oh my goodness. She had me at Living Fearless in Christ.
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  Let me give you a little bit of her background. She's a columnist for the
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  Christian post. Her book was the four word was written by Pastor Jack Hibbs. He's
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  a friend of the podcast. And she has a really extensive career. She's from Southern
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  California, but she began her career in 1995 as an FBI informant helping
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  identify pockets of radicalization in California. And she later moved to DC was
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  appointed as a senior advisor to the US Embassy in Afghanistan. Also, over her
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  career, let's see, countering violent extremism. She was working on that
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  agenda. She was appointed a senior advisor to FBI headquarters where she was
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  tasked to scale and replicate the program she built in the private sector.
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  Ultimately, the FBI's focus shifted to Russia Gate. And later the alleged and
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  inflated threat from right wing extremism. But now she's back in California.
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  She's got a podcast. She's got a book Living Fearless in Christ. And it's so
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  good to connect with her Hedia Miramati Falco. I got it right. Didn't I? Welcome.
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  Perfect. Perfect. Thank you, David, for having me. It's really a pleasure.
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  Well, thank you. It's so great that we connected. And you are also on real life
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  network, Jack Hibbs, real life network. People can hear the podcast. Well, let's
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  just start by we're going to get into your background and your conversion. But
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  tell us about your podcast and where people can hear you. Sure. It's called
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  the Living Fearless Devotional. And we're on YouTube, but we're also on the real
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  life network, which is Pastor Jack's network. It's a variety of content there.
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  There's movies, there's podcasts, there's a biblical theology, sermons,
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  is all kinds of content that you can find there for Christian living. And I
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  want to mention your website, resurrect ministry.com. I love it. Resurrect ministry.com. Do
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  you have any other websites? I know you're on Facebook and other places. Your
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  book is on my social media. That that website contains all my content. So
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  anything that people want to know about me, it's on that website. And also I
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  want to point out to your listeners that we have a comment section where they
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  could drop me a line. I counsel parents from all over the world that are
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  dealing with kids that are trying to leave Christianity for Islam. And so I
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  try to help them navigate away from that. And even if their kids have already
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  turned basically strengthening them and encouraging them on how they can
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  win their kids back. Wow. Phenomenal. So also your podcast co-host
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  tells about Andy's a former police officer, right? Yes, he's a former police
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  officer. And interestingly, he's he describes himself as a Christian in
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  name only for 25 years. And then he had a radical encounter with the Lord,
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  became spirit filled. And about a year later, we both met. We met at Pastor
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  Jack's Church in line for a conference. And we have not been separated since.
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  So that's a great story. Praise God. Well, let's go back now. And this is
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  really fascinating. You were a practicing and developed Muslim for over 20
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  years. Yes. So did you live in the Middle East or were you in California? Tell
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  us about your story and then your conversion, please. Sure. I was in California.
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  I was raised actually as a secular Iranian. My parents came, immigrated in the
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  60s to live the American dream. We were not raised with religion whatsoever.
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  But I kind of had this fast and freer lifestyle in Beverly Hills. And in
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  college, I started to have a yearning for a relationship with God. I had no
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  Christian friends whatsoever. And so I had no context really for Christianity.
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  And my father was, you know, why don't you become a Muslim? It's culturally
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  most appropriate for you. And that's what I did. I first encountered a very
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  extremist mosque and they were anti-Semitic and anti-American. And I thought,
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  oh, this is terrible. I want nothing to do with this. And then I ended up
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  finding a Sufi community, which is a mystical branch of Islam. And it's really
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  where I felt I belonged and where I felt that it was a religion, a religious
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  doctrine that I could take part in. And I realized in being part of that
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  community, I had stepped into the struggle for the soul of Islam. So these
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  Sufi Christians were being, I mean, Sufi Muslims were being persecuted
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  around the world. They were being massacred hung from trees. Basically, as
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  the jihadis were moving in across Middle East, South Asia, North Africa to
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  take over those territories. And so I was fascinated by that struggle. It
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  would have been 90s. Kids were going over to fight in Bosnia and Afghanistan.
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  And I thought, what in the world would motivate an American Muslim kid to go
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  and fight overseas? And that's basically where my career began.
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  Wow, fascinating. So what brought you to Jesus being raised like that and
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  deciding to go and even even being exposed to the radical side of Islam,
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  which from what I understand, if you're truly devoutly following the
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  Quran, it is going to lean toward jihad. Is that not right?
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  Well, so the Sufi's are a mystical branch. It's a normative practice of
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  Islam. So it's a very mystical and it's a reformist version. So they believe
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  in the abrogation of scripture so that their earlier verses about jihad were
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  abrogated, they were nullified. And then later they reinterpret the scripture
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  about beating women and they say, no, that's not true. That's not what that meant.
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  And so it's a very, very liberal interpretation. And because my religion and
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  professional career were so intertwined, I really didn't give it much thought.
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  It wasn't until I'm at FBI headquarters, I'm traveling the nation,
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  speaking to joint terrorism task force, helping them to identify radicalization.
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  I thought, I'm just tired of wearing a head cover. I figured it just wasn't
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  necessary. I felt like it was hindering me. And so I took my head cover off.
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  And I suddenly received all of this negativity and claims that I was going
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  to hell for the rest of my life. I mean, you know, spend an eternity in
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  hellfire. And I thought to myself, how can I worship a God that's going to
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  punish me for an eternity for a piece of fabric? And I left Islam. You know,
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  I didn't, I had no relationship with Jesus. I hadn't met Jesus yet.
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  It wasn't until I get back to Southern California. My father was not well.
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  And so he'd asked me to move back and to help him with his healthcare
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  enterprise. And I found a tweet from a girl I didn't even know who said my
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  pastor changed my life. And I clicked on the link. And it was preaching
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  the simple gospel. Jesus loves you, turned to him, repent of your sins.
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  He defeated death, health, sin in the grave. And you will spend an eternity
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  with him as your Lord and Savior. And I was like, that is beautiful. That's
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  so simple. Why didn't anybody tell me this before? Nobody had ever witnessed
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  to me. I had 20 plus years of interfaith activity. I went to churches
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  constantly for interfaith activities. And nobody told me who the real Jesus was.
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  Can we pause right there for a second? You went into churches.
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  You were in interfaith activities or events. And nobody
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  shared the gospel and told you about the Jesus being the way the truth
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  and the life. And I'm talking, I was at the highest level. So I was running
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  a DHS funded countering violent extremism program. It's the name that
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  Obama gave to fighting terrorism. It was during the rise of ISIS. We had
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  all these homegrown violent extremist kids that were turning to jihadism.
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  And so at the highest levels, I was dealing with priests and reverends
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  and people that pastors, there were no evangelicals, though. I'll tell you
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  that. There was basically just the Episcopal Church and the Catholic Church.
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  But nobody told me, Hey, you know, what is your concept of Jesus?
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  Let me explain to you what the Bible says, not a single person.
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  So when you heard the good, I mean, there's the gospel is, it's so full
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  and robust. It's got, of course, the love of God, but it's also got
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  justice and judgment. And it's like, and that is part of the truth,
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  part of the truth, what we're saying from sin. And you heard that.
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  And now you are with him. It's just amazing. I want to just ask you about
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  your book now, briefly, we've got just take a break in a few minutes.
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  But of course, Pastor Jack Hibbs wrote the four word, but tell us about the
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  cover and, I mean, living fearless in Christ, you haven't been,
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  how many years have you been a Christian? A little over seven years.
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  So that's not a long time. And so to put out a book like this,
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  to have a podcast, to get it really, and I know that you've been vetted
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  because you're on real life network. So that's pretty amazing.
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  So share a little bit about the book cover, living fearless,
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  because Christians need to be able to do this.
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  Sure. So the four living creatures, the one, the book of revelation,
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  holy, holy, holy is a Lord God Almighty who was and is and is to come.
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  And it's just a verse I recite daily. It is part of just my,
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  my Christian living. And when I came to write the book,
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  the Lord just put it on my heart that it has to be the four living creatures.
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  And so we had a contest, an art contest. And this was the winner.
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  But it is fascinating. It's great, great cover, excellent cover.
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  So it is available on Amazon. I'm sure they can get information on your
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  website, resurrect ministry.com is well, correct?
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  Yes, absolutely.
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  Okay. So when you started coming to church, a true Christian church, right?
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  Hearing more, not just the gospel, now you've been saved and you believe, right?
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  Now you're starting to equip yourself or get equipped,
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  hopefully by pastors and the Bible, reading the Bible.
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  Any insights you want to share about you as a former Muslim,
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  understanding obviously the Quran, right?
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  And yes, the Hadith and other things.
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  Anything else you want to share about that? That must have been an interesting
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  transformation. Absolutely. So the Lord brought me first to Romans.
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  And between Romans and Genesis, he basically was helping me unlearn
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  everything that I had been taught from the Quran as opposed to the truth of the
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  Bible. So whether it's the difference between Isaac and Ishmael,
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  how the covenant passes, what doctrine, the foundational doctrine of what it
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  means to be a Christian that I found in Romans.
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  And I literally wrote down notes and a commentary I was reading.
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  I had logo software and I was reading and just absorbing as much as possible.
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  That was under the tutelage, the spiritual covering of Pastor Jack.
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  I was there, you know, twice a week, absorbing as much as I could,
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  being a part of the body of the church there.
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  And it's really important to not only have the doctrine,
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  but to be living with the doctrine.
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  And so that's something, of course, a Pastor Jack teaches emphatically.
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  And the book basically chronicles my experience, how I grew up.
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  And then I've divided it into five chapters.
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  So it's basically self.
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  So the ability to conquer selfish desires and to be filled with the spirit
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  and then family because no man could be, you know, in ministry without having
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  control over his whole household.
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  So the Lord built me this family.
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  I learned how to raise kids.
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  I actually was not a very good parent until I became saved in Christ.
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  So I was learning all of these really important skills about running a family
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  and how that would be applied in ministry.
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  And then from their doctrine, religion, what did I believe?
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  How was I going to defend what I believed?
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  How was I able to explain the hope that I have in Christ?
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  And then society and politics taking all of my experience in my career,
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  national security that's found, you know, 20 plus years.
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  And now as a soldier of Christ, what would I do to empower myself and people
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  that read the book and other listeners of our podcast to be living fearless in Christ?
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  Praise God.
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  Just to hear the fact that you used logo software.
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  I mean, this is now you're, you've been a believer seven years.
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  There are people that have been believers for decades and don't use a Bible commentary
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  or logo software or they don't study.
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  And I believe you really need to in order to get the, just a whole picture,
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  the whole, the full word of God and understanding.
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  There's one thing I was going to ask you before we take a very brief pause going back
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  to your experience from what I remember you were in Lebanon at one point.
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  And before you came to the US and you were pregnant, tell us about that briefly.
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  And then we'll take a break.
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  Well, I had money from a private foundation to set up a community center based on my
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  career. They wanted us to test it out in Beirut.
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  And this was actually in 2006 and what happened is the war broke out with, with Israel
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  and the airport blew up.
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  And so I find out I have a miraculous pregnancy.
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  They told me I would never get pregnant.
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  And here I was pregnant stuck in an middle of a war and had to escape in a
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  friend's car out of the trunk.
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  You know, I was hidden in the trunk and then had to get over the border from Syria,
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  from Syria to Cyprus back to the United States.
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  And so it was part of a harrowing experience.
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  But it was a really, it was a difficult time in my life.
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  And it was at a point where I was, I was really embedded in my career and
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  really determined to solve this problem, which of course, the Islamic radicalization
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  problem I have never solved.
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  And the only solution is for, you know, the extremist to find Jesus.
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  It's really for all Muslims to find Jesus.
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  Amen.
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  Well, we're going to take a brief pause.
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  We're with Hedia Miramadi Falco.
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  The website is resurrectministry.com.
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  Hey, friends, thank you so much for your support and your prayers.
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  Um, we've been, we've got people working behind the scenes and you're
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  sharing the podcast.
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  It's getting out there and growing the audience like I never expected.
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  And from what I was told recently, we're averaging a quarter of a million
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  podcast downloads and views and listens.
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  And I don't know how all that works.
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  But we're getting out there and under God's sovereignty.
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  So thank you, Jesus back to our guest.
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  Hedia, um, one to ask you one thing, um, was one of the things that attracted
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  you to the gospel and Jesus and the truth of the Bible, the assurance that we
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  have as believers, because in Islam, there is no assurance.
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  They don't know they're trying to do their best according to the rules of
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  Islam and they have no assurance of paradise, salvation.
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  Talk to us a little bit about that.
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  It was the most important thing, internal security.
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  It was because I was so devout and I usually do things to the best of my
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  ability and I could be very dedicated to things that I put my heart and
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  passion into.
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  And I felt like nobody could tell me I was going to reach the destination.
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  So all of the struggle, all of the devotion wouldn't promise me heaven.
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  And I thought, this is so strange.
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  Why can't anybody give me a benchmark?
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  And they couldn't.
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  And so when I took off my head cover and I was condemned like that,
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  I said, this is absolutely ridiculous because all my good deeds,
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  all the fasting, all the prayer, all the worship was not good enough.
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  I was going to be condemned for a piece of fabric and the religion unraveled.
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  It made absolutely no sense to me anymore.
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  And so when I heard the gospel and understood that Jesus that you turned
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  to him and repent and that he for his finished work on the cross, we are saved.
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  I was just mesmerized.
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  It was it was a radical transformation in my life.
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  So you've heard the expression, Christ, other religions are all works.
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  Most of them do, do, do, do.
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  Christianity is done because Jesus said it is finished, right?
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  On the cross, he did the work.
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  And it really is amazing to just mind-boggling that God would love us that much
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  to send his son to die for us.
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  But anyway, really briefly, we had Cheryl Chemley on the podcast a couple of
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  weeks ago.
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  I love having her on and I love her writing and reporting in her books.
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  But what was the topic?
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  You were talking about Muslims coming to Christ.
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  Where was it at a pretty quick, Muslims turning to Christ in droves.
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  Tell us a little bit about that because we hear that some are having dreams
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  and visions that don't necessarily have Christian influence in their
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  country and their lives.
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  Is that was that part of the conversation?
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  Go ahead and share.
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  Yes, absolutely.
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  Always on Cheryl's podcast and we were talking about, so the fastest going
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  church in the world is Iran.
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  And it's interesting that, sorry, the fastest growing Christian church.
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  Yes, the fastest growing Christian church is in Iran.
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  And that is just by growth of water mouth and the gospel moving and the
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  Holy Spirit moving in people's lives.
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  And that's, of course, when it's forbidden.
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  And even though it's forbidden and people risk life and limb in order to be
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  followers of Christ, it is still spreading like wildfire.
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  And I think that's basically the result of the juxtaposition against a very
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  grotesque interpretation of Islam and people are suppressed and oppressed.
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  And they just hate the hegemony that the mullahs have.
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  And so the spirit of Christ moving with compassion and love and justice is
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  just so appealing to people.
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  And then here in the United States and across Europe, similar to my own
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  conversion, I did not convert in a church or through Christians.
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  I converted online through YouTube.
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  So God is moving in these miraculous ways in people's lives.
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  I have friends that had dreams and visions.
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  It has been, I audibly heard the voice of Christ call my name.
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  I think Muslims have a very difficult time leaving behind culture and family
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  and all of their tradition to turn to Christ.
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  And so he really shows up in these extraordinary ways.
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  So back to your book, Living Fearless in Christ.
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  Part of the description talks about that you reveal the powerful truth that
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  you discovered only Christ breaks every chain.
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  When you're chained to a religion or a system, it can be a heavy weight.
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  It can feel like bondage, but it's really supposed to be something spiritual to
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  help you through life and maybe even peace, but it is, in fact, bondage.
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  I like the way that's described only Christ breaks every chain.
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  Talk to us a little bit more about that.
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  Sure.
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  I mean, in Islam, you're put to this rigorous marathon of activities,
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  of things that you're obligated to do.
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  And they're just, they're heavy, the weight of them.
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  I mean, even just wearing a scarf, facing that kind of criticism and
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  ostracization from mainstream society was a very heavy burden.
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  I used to tell my friends, I hate wearing this thing every day.
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  And it never got any easier for me.
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  So combine that with the social limitations, the rituals that you had to
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  perform, they were a weight.
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  They were a cage because there's no light in them.
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  You don't have the Holy Spirit living in you.
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  God doesn't talk to you.
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  It's a one-way communication.
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  And in the end, you don't even know if you're saved.
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  So it is, it is only through the spirit of the living God living in you
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  that you feel that sense of freedom.
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  We obey God's commandments out of love, out of what he did for us on the cross.
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  It's a completely different transformational process that occurs from the
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  inside towards the outside, rather than Islam trying to superimpose a
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  restriction from the outside, hoping it's going to change the inside.
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  And it never did.
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  I tell the story of my book, how I was, you know, living this, I was,
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  you know, abusing alcohol and promiscuous and had a very wild lifestyle.
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  And then I spent 25 years in a cage in Islam.
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  And when I left, I became just as broken and vulnerable as I was as a 24-year-old.
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  And it was just even more devastating to me that none of it stuck, none of the
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  disciplines stuck.
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  And that just was further proof to me that it was a false religion.
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  You made me, when you're talking about that, and made me think about Ephesians
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  two, eight and nine, you know, not by works.
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  It says, for by grace, you have been saved through faith.
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  And it also says, and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God.
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  And it's, that's hard for a lot of people.
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  It gets, that gets a lot of people right there.
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  What do you mean it's a gift?
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  I don't know if I do anything to earn it.
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  I can't be better.
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  I can't get to a different level.
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  I can't, and that's just our mentality, I think, as a human being.
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  Sometimes we, oh, we need to work for it.
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  But really briefly now, let's take a brief transition.
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  You write for the Christian post and you've done an article recently on USAID.
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  We've been learning a lot.
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  Thank God for the Trump administration with Doge and what they're finding at the corruption,
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  the fraud, everything else that's been going on our money, taxpayer money.
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  And I want to just read a part of this and I'll let you continue whatever you want to share.
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  You say, I'll never forget the time I witnessed a meeting at the US Embassy in Kabul
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  when the ambassador was screaming at the USAID representative for lying to him about a school.
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  They claimed was built on the outskirts of the country.
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  He had personally flown in a helicopter the day before and the supposed buildings were not erected.
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  There was nothing there.
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  Share more of the article and people can go look that up over at the Christian post
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  because it came out on February 11.
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  Share a little bit more about that in your insights there.
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  Sure.
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  It's the corruption.
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  So I was a federal contractor throughout my career.
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  It was a variety of different agencies.
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  It was, you know, Department of Homeland Security, Department of Justice.
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  I was a sub for one of the VOLAGs, which is the resettlement agencies that were not only responsible for refugees,
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  but most recently in the Biden administration for resettling illegal immigrants.
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  And I just realized that it was, it was literally a racket for the NGOs and charities
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  and for-profit entities to siphon money away from the US government.
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  So either we were doing corrupt practices, toppling governments that we didn't like for one reason or another,
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  or we were just siphoning off, you know, billions of dollars in aid
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  to line the pockets of executives and other charity workers here in the United States or to support political causes.
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  The USAID turned into an arm of the CIA to basically do all the dirty work that they didn't want to do directly.
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  And I just think as a Christian, as a, as a Biblically-based nation,
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  it's disgusting for us to be so hypocritical and to advance these kind of corrupt policies
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  and, you know, it's supporting transgendarism and, you know, a lesbian play and a gay Sesame Street
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  and what all the other range of things that you see that have now been uncovered by Doge
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  that as as Biblically-based Americans that we would be condoning and supporting such things.
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  And so I say in the article, they use the philosophy that the enemy of my enemy is my friend
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  and I said, no, it's just another enemy.
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  And I'm just, I'm just really excited that they're exposing it all.
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  And people say, well, this is not going to solve the debt crisis.
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  And I said, well, we're not trying to solve the debt crisis with USAID.
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  We're trying to have radical transparency to expose the hypocrisy and corruption
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  on behalf of the American people.
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  I mean, we have friends and neighbors and people in this country that can't afford a dozen eggs right now.
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  Because of the inflation and all the corruption.
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  So we owe it to them.
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  I'm so grateful that the US government and the Trump administration wants to expose these things.
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  So at least we could show the American people that they value their tax dollars
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  and that that we spent on legitimate, effective God-honoring principles.
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  Yeah, it is infuriating.
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  We've got homeless veterans.
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  We've got people living under the poverty level.
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  We've got people that have just gone through, you know, floods and different tragedies.
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  And it's just, when you think of our money, US taxpayer, American hardworking citizens
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  going overseas to these radical immoral causes.
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  And then you see people resisting it.
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  You're last, in the last two minutes here, I want to hear your thoughts on those that are saying,
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  wait a minute, they're all, you know, Trump and Musk are, this is a constitutional crisis.
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  And they're not saying thank you for helping us uncover some of this.
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  Go ahead.
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  I think the average American is extremely grateful.
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  I think what you see are now unemployed leftists who are siphoning money, you know,
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  sponging off the US government that are organizing themselves to push back,
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  which is going to be ineffective.
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  Because the average American says, you know, this is, this was horrible.
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  Why were we doing this?
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  But the radical left just wants to continue the gravy train doing these, you know, elicit
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  immoral projects because they were making money off of it.
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  And that, we cannot let that stand and we shouldn't be deterred by that.
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  Oftentimes, policy shifts based on media attention.
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  But I'm so glad the president and his cabinet are not going to be swayed by such ridiculous
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  problems.
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  Yes.
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  Praise God for the direction we're finally seemingly going in, but what a blessing it was
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  to have you on today.
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  I just want to make sure people go to resurrect ministry.com.
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  And I love saying your name, Hedia Miramati Falco.
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  I almost said it with an Italian dialect, but I held back that time.
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  Yeah.
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  So your podcast, people can look that up, but I want to make sure they go to your
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  book on Amazon Living Fearless in Christ.
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  Read the whole story, friends, in detail, why she left Islam to now win battles
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  for the kingdom.
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  Praise God.
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  Hedia, I'm so thankful that you're on, well, we are on God's side.
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  I was going to see you're on our side, but no, we are on God's side together.
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  So good to be fighting this fight with you.
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  Lord willing, we'll do this again.
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  Thanks for your time.
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  Thank you so much, David.
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  Thanks for having me.
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  You're most welcome.
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  What a blessing.
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  Oh, Lord.
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  It's just so encouraging to hear these stories from people that are now just really doing
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  work for Christ.
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  I wish all Christians would have some sort of transformation like that.
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  But anyway, God bless you.
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  And as always, keep speaking the truth about things that matter.