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Mac & Bone Hour 3: Sounds of the Panthers - David Tepper Edition · Mac & Bone Podcast

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  Speaker 4: hope you guys are enjoying listening to this. I know
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  Speaker 4: you're driving into work. That might not be your favorite
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  Speaker 4: place to drive into, but it's Thursday. We had an
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  Speaker 4: NFL game last night. Seahawks pick off Drake May three
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  Speaker 4: times in the second half to rally and win 13-10.
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  Speaker 4: They seal it with an interception in the end zone.
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  Speaker 4: I hate it for Drake, but we had drama last night.
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  Speaker 4: We'll have Rams-Niners tonight. We have football bone every night
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  Speaker 4: through Monday night, right? We even have college football tonight.
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  Speaker 4: The Canes, Miami in action against FAMU tonight. Everybody say
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  Speaker 4: a prayer for FAMU tonight against Miami.
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  Speaker 3: Did you see the point spread back in that game?
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  Speaker 3: Let me try to guess it. All right, guess what
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  Speaker 3: it is.
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  Speaker 5: 54.
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  Speaker 3: 57 and a half. Ah, I was close, though.
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  Speaker 2: I was close. Oh, man.
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  Speaker 4: We got State tomorrow against Richmond. Looking forward to that.
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  Speaker 4: We got three other ACC games tomorrow night. College football Saturday.
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  Speaker 4: And the one that's got us the most cranked up
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  Speaker 4: is Panthers-Bears. Cannot wait to just... Let's see what they've got.
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  Speaker 4: We can deal with it, Bone.
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  Speaker 6: All right?
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  Speaker 2: I swear we can. It just better not look like
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  Speaker 2: the last three openers. But anyway... It.
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  Speaker 3: Feels like the offseason's a long time. That gap... between
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  Speaker 3: the last preseason game or.
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  Speaker 2: Painful.
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  Speaker 3: Or joint session to the regular season now, when they
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  Speaker 3: don't play the normal preseason schedule... Two-plus weeks ago. It
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  Speaker 3: feels like we've had the same discussions now. forever and
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  Speaker 3: i'm ready to not only see these guys get after
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  Speaker 3: it i'm ready to talk about different stuff here 100
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  Speaker 3: percent man different people because you're my guy but different
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  Speaker 3: stuff thank you sir thank you a lot of people
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  Speaker 3: are a lot of people are asking about this spot
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  Speaker 3: track report bone that the panthers cleared uh like 10
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  Speaker 3: million dollars a cap room by restructuring turk wharton's contract
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  Speaker 3: they put this is the big trendy way of restructuring
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  Speaker 3: and saving money and here and now it's putting the
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  Speaker 3: voidable years At the end of the contracts, they put
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  Speaker 3: three voidable years on there. It's just a cap mechanism
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  Speaker 3: that Brant Tillis and company cooked up.
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  Speaker 4: And TFB is the one that showed me this first.
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  Speaker 4: And he said, who do you think we're going after
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  Speaker 4: with this cap money? This, as I understand it, literally
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  Speaker 4: just got us under the cap. Because SpotTrack has that
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  Speaker 4: new Turk deal on there. And their salary cap table
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  Speaker 4: for the Panthers has us at $ 5 million under. So
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  Speaker 4: I think we basically went from $ 5 million over the
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  Speaker 4: cap to $ 5 million under the cap with his deal.
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  Speaker 4: So not a real fun restructure, but obviously it had
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  Speaker 4: to be done. What is fun, though, Bone, is that
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  Speaker 4: David Tepper talked yesterday for the first time, at least
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  Speaker 4: in a football-only presser, since... the Frank Reich firing press conference.
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  Speaker 4: You know, we're talking almost three years ago. So this
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  Speaker 4: is pretty notable. So we're going to do a sounds
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  Speaker 4: of the Panthers and we're going to do a temp
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  Speaker 4: daddy edition.
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  Speaker 2: This is David Tepper.
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  Speaker 4: And this is some of the stuff that struck us
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  Speaker 4: as notable that he said yesterday. Some of it, I
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  Speaker 4: know you're gonna be shocked by this, had fans fired up. Um, uh,
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  Speaker 4: let's listen to it and let's react to it. And
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  Speaker 4: y'all feel free to react. on the text line right here, 704-570-9610.
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  Speaker 4: Siding and Windows, your hometown improvement experts. Let's start with
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  Speaker 4: David Tepper telling the assembled media yesterday why he believes
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  Speaker 4: this team is more of a playoff roster even than
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  Speaker 4: last year's division champion team.
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  Speaker 7: I think that if you look at the team, Last
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  Speaker 7: year's team, I kind of said that we're not a
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  Speaker 7: playoff team, but we can get in the playoffs. I think.
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  Speaker 1: We're more of a playoff team this.
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  Speaker 7: Year than we were last year coming into it.
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  Speaker 8: I think.
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  Speaker 7: The preseason, when you have winning records in the preseason,
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  Speaker 7: it kind of plays into your depth. So I think
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  Speaker 7: Dan's done a good job, and the guys have done
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  Speaker 7: a good job building the depth on the team. and
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  Speaker 7: I think the pieces are there and we have everything
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  Speaker 7: we need.
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  Speaker 4: So there we go. Was he hooked up to some
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  Speaker 4: medical device? Were we hearing Tep's heartbeat there for a while?
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  Speaker 4: That was a very interesting background noise. It was beating
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  Speaker 4: faster when he saw Scott Fowler. More on that in
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  Speaker 4: a few minutes here. What a week for the Fowlers,
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  Speaker 4: by the way. They had a notable press conference, father
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  Speaker 4: and son, both. If a Fowler shows up at your presser,
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  Speaker 4: you got something going on. So what do you think, Bone,
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  Speaker 4: about that? I get what he's saying. The roster's improved,
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  Speaker 4: I think is what he is saying. Like I'm looking
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  Speaker 4: at now saying, yeah, like last year, it makes sense.
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  Speaker 4: He looked at it and said, we could be a
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  Speaker 4: playoff team. If this, this, and this happens, this roster's better.
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  Speaker 4: It still didn't guarantee anything though. No, no, no, no, no, no.
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  Speaker 4: Never does, right?
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  Speaker 3: So, no, not at all. But it's definitely a better
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  Speaker 3: roster that Dan has assembled. A deeper roster. You didn't
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  Speaker 3: add Devin Lloyd. You didn't add Jalen Phillips and then
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  Speaker 3: not be a better roster. So, no, they spent money
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  Speaker 3: for it to be a better roster, and it is
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  Speaker 3: a better roster, especially defensively. There's no way this defense isn't–
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  Speaker 3: think about where they were two years ago.
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  Speaker 2: They were horrible.
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  Speaker 3: Now look at the defense. We're thinking– How high can
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  Speaker 3: they finish in the week? Can they be top 10?
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  Speaker 3: And I think anything back below even like 12 in
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  Speaker 3: defense might be a disappointment.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, if they don't upgrade defensively, statistically, I'd be very
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  Speaker 4: bummed about it, man.
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  Speaker 3: What was it, 16 last year where they finished?
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  Speaker 2: It was like 15.
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  Speaker 3: Total defense, depending where you look. One of the categories
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  Speaker 3: was 15.
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  Speaker 4: One was 16 for the Panthers, I think, between scoring
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  Speaker 4: and yardage allowed. So they're right there in that middle.
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  Speaker 4: If they don't get themselves right around 10 or so.
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  Speaker 3: Right? A couple spots ahead, a couple spots behind. I'd
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  Speaker 3: be disappointed, man. You didn't spend money to stay status quo. No,
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  Speaker 3: you did not. There's no doubt about it. Now, the
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  Speaker 3: injuries and those— I like using that word, status quo.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, okay. Work that in there. Work that in there, Bo.
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  Speaker 3: Status quo sounds like I'm professional.
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  Speaker 4: Anyway that's a good 10 cent word for you that's
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  Speaker 4: that's above your usual penny words you.
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  Speaker 3: Know i i want to work in the the term
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  Speaker 3: squid pro quo at some point.
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  Speaker 4: Quid quid that's quid yeah that means like tit for tat.
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  Speaker 3: Right like you do this i do this for you
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  Speaker 3: squid pro quo squid squid pro quo with something you
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  Speaker 3: get at red lobster All right.
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  Speaker 2: Anyway, I've said a lot. Boat is on a roll, man.
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  Speaker 2: There's a lot going on in your head over there.
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  Speaker 3: I've derailed stuff here.
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  Speaker 4: Let's go to Sounds of the Panthers, David Tepper edition.
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  Speaker 4: This is him telling everybody he wouldn't talk about the extension.
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  Speaker 4: He told the media, go ask Dan Morgan about that,
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  Speaker 4: which I like. Don't be involved in it, Tepp. But
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  Speaker 4: he did say he still believes in Bryce Young.
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  Speaker 7: Look, I mean, you saw it. You know, he can
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  Speaker 7: and he has, not can, has. you know, performed at
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  Speaker 7: a high level against high-level competition. Seems to bring the
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  Speaker 7: best out of him. You know, Bryce is sort of
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  Speaker 7: a guy that doesn't feel the pressure, right? He saw
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  Speaker 7: it against the Rams twice. You know, when you have
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  Speaker 7: that kind of performance, you know it's there. You know,
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  Speaker 7: can he bring it every single game?
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  Speaker 2: I believe he can.
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  Speaker 7: You know it's there. So, you know, like I said,
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  Speaker 7: I'm a believer, and hopefully it comes true.
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  Speaker 4: So there you go. He's still a believer in Bryce bone.
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  Speaker 4: And he talked multiple times in the press or about it,
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  Speaker 4: you know, kind of having, you know, he says you
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  Speaker 4: got to have, he's got to be protected, you know,
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  Speaker 4: and he acknowledged the O-line injuries said he's got to
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  Speaker 4: have weapons around him, but he's still back in Bryce,
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  Speaker 4: but he's not committing to anything.
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  Speaker 3: That's got to have been the message we've gotten all
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  Speaker 3: the way through, right, from Tillis to the staff. Hell,
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  Speaker 3: the answer that Canales gave Stephen A. Smith, they've all
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  Speaker 3: kind of got the same message.
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  Speaker 2: He is for now, he told Stephen A. Smith. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I think they like Bryce. That's what Mrs. Mack said
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  Speaker 2: about Mack along the way. Well, he's here for now.
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  Speaker 2: He's still your husband? Yeah, for now, for now.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think they like the fact Bryce is improving,
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  Speaker 4: the team's improving, but I do think they're thinking, okay,
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  Speaker 4: What is our ceiling with Bryce? How high can we
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  Speaker 4: climb with him? I do think that's part of what
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  Speaker 4: they're thinking. And if he can be consistent like Tepper said,
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  Speaker 4: then I think he can earn that contract.
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  Speaker 3: Well, Sheena had some interesting comments on Panthers Confidential last
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  Speaker 3: night with Joe Person and Dunk about there's two sides.
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  Speaker 3: I'm paraphrasing slightly, but there's also two sides to signing
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  Speaker 3: a contract where... The Bryce camp also may think that
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  Speaker 3: there's also, you know.
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  Speaker 2: He's not a finished product either. How high can he get?
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  Speaker 3: They believe in Bryce still to go higher maybe than
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  Speaker 3: what the Panthers are anticipating he gets, right? They think
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  Speaker 3: he can make a big jump and earn like a
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  Speaker 3: 50-plus million. They have their belief in Bryce on that side,
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  Speaker 3: and the Panthers have their belief in him.
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  Speaker 2: That's a good point.
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  Speaker 4: And that's why when I kept saying, oh, give him
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  Speaker 4: that Darnold deal and the old Baker deal, offer around
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  Speaker 4: $ 33 million a year, they would have.
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  Speaker 2: Shot that down so fast. You crazy, Dan Morgan? Get
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  Speaker 2: off the phone. You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 4: That's kind of how they would have reacted based on
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  Speaker 4: what you're saying there. All right, let's continue. More from
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  Speaker 4: David Teppers. Very rare All-Panther presser with the media. He
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  Speaker 4: was asked about judging success for this team. What would
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  Speaker 4: success look like for the Panthers?
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  Speaker 7: Listen, I've said it for a long time about the
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  Speaker 7: Carolina Panthers. Maybe it's in the water. So I won't
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  Speaker 7: say it's just one season. I'd like to have two
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  Speaker 7: winning seasons, first time this franchise history. So I'd like
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  Speaker 7: to win this year, and I'd like to win next year.
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  Speaker 7: So I'd like to string wins. In other sports that
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  Speaker 7: I own, we stream wins. Winning seasons still happens. This
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  Speaker 7: one we haven't, but I like to see us stream
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  Speaker 7: winning seasons.
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  Speaker 3: That's success.
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  Speaker 7: So, you know, that you know that you build it,
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  Speaker 7: you know, and it's coming and it's here.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's all about sustaining it. And I would say this,
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  Speaker 4: just go get the one winning season and get in
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  Speaker 4: the playoffs. Make it back-to-back playoff years. That'll show us something.
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  Speaker 4: It won't get you off the schneid of, do you
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  Speaker 4: know the Panthers have never had back-to-back winning seasons? But
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  Speaker 4: it would mean what he's talking about. It would show
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  Speaker 4: you something that is sustaining.
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  Speaker 3: You know? I mean, back-to-back division titles mean something as well.
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  Speaker 2: Hell yeah, it would. That's a damn success right there.
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  Speaker 3: They can't get back-to-back this year because last year, I
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  Speaker 3: don't know if you know this, but they back-a-rooed their
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  Speaker 3: way into the postseason.
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  Speaker 2: Have you heard about that?
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  Speaker 3: They backed that thing up. I distinctly remember Bone rooting.
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  Speaker 3: They torqued their way into the postseason.
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  Speaker 4: I distinctly remember rooting like hell for the Falcons of
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  Speaker 4: all teams on that Sunday to back us on in.
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  Speaker 4: All right, so let's get to this one. This is
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  Speaker 4: one from David Tapper. We're still coming up. We have
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  Speaker 4: what he said when asked about could Major League Baseball
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  Speaker 4: come to Charlotte? Do you have any interest in being
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  Speaker 4: a part of something like that? That's coming up. And
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  Speaker 4: also coming up, the controversy. I don't even know if
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  Speaker 4: it's controversial, but it seems like some fans on Twitter
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  Speaker 4: were a little bothered by the Tepper Mike K back
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  Speaker 4: and forth. So we'll kind of let you hear that
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  Speaker 4: and judge for yourself. But first, let's just go to
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  Speaker 4: a real simple one. Nate Wimberly asked, what is your
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  Speaker 4: message to Panther fans ahead of this season?
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  Speaker 6: Listen, normally.
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  Speaker 7: I have my keep pounding hat every single day on.
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  Speaker 7: I love where to golf from, by the way, just
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  Speaker 7: like the material, but I do. So I just tell
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  Speaker 7: them to keep pounding. You know, we're making progress. We're
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  Speaker 7: going to continue to make progress. You know, you know,
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  Speaker 7: I believe in a winning season this year. It's listen,
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  Speaker 7: nothing's easy in this NFL.
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  Speaker 3: Seriously.
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  Speaker 7: It's not, but I believe we, we have everything here
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  Speaker 7: to win this year. And I believe we'll have everything
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  Speaker 7: to win in the future too. And I do think
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  Speaker 7: we're on the right track. And I do think we
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  Speaker 7: have very good people here in, uh, Dan and Dave
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  Speaker 7: and Brandt. So I think we have a good head team,
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  Speaker 7: good management team over on that side of the building.
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  Speaker 7: I trust them. I don't feel the need to be
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  Speaker 7: around as much here because I trust them so much.
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  Speaker 7: And like I said, I'm optimistic. I'm realistic, though. But
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  Speaker 7: I'm optimistic.
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  Speaker 3: You said something when the show began, and you hear
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  Speaker 3: it there. That's a measured take from David Tepper. I
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  Speaker 3: think when he first took over, there was a little
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  Speaker 3: bit of jerry jones there where jerry jones if you
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  Speaker 3: ask him that question says we feel like here at
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  Speaker 3: the dallas cowboys that we should go win a championship
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  Speaker 3: oh every everybody everybody says it with them he goes
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  Speaker 3: so far above over the top i felt right there
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  Speaker 3: that is a different version of tepper and a much
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  Speaker 3: more measured answer maybe than we got say early on
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  Speaker 3: and i love what he said at the end there
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  Speaker 3: i trust brant dan and dave that's why yeah that's
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  Speaker 3: why you don't need to hear from me That's why
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  Speaker 3: I don't need to go there and draw a ball place,
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  Speaker 3: you know what I mean, and try to slide him
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  Speaker 3: into coaching staff, all these things he's alleged to have done.
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  Speaker 4: So I just like this new tip, man. I do
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  Speaker 4: believe he's changed as an owner. Listen, I say it
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  Speaker 4: all the time. You don't become that successful in any business, Bone,
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  Speaker 4: without being sharp as hell. right? And he is. He
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  Speaker 4: is not a dummy. I don't care what the text
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  Speaker 4: line says. I've never said, oh, he's a dummy. I've
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  Speaker 4: just said, man, this dude needs to figure out NFL ownership.
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  Speaker 4: But I've always contended, Bone, there's a lot of these
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  Speaker 4: guys that are huge successes in other walks of life
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  Speaker 4: that eventually figure out, okay, I got to hire the
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  Speaker 4: right guys and then I got to let them work.
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  Speaker 4: This is not my expertise. This is their expertise. And
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  Speaker 4: I think he's learned it and I like it a lot.
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  Speaker 4: But to your... I like it a lot, Boney. But
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  Speaker 4: to your point, Bone, of what you just said there
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  Speaker 4: about maybe you're sensing a different tone of tep.
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  Speaker 2: Um.
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  Speaker 4: He said, Bone, that Bryce, he made a comment about
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  Speaker 4: Bryce needing the weapons and needing the protection, right? And
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  Speaker 4: if he gets that, I believe he can do it, right?
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  Speaker 4: I believe he can be more consistent. Mike K of
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  Speaker 4: the Observer then came in, or not of the Observer anymore,
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  Speaker 4: of ESPN now, came in and kind of wanted to
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  Speaker 4: point out that infamous Bryce Young draft day moment. when
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  Speaker 4: Dave Canales jumped on the mic during the GM and
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  Speaker 4: coach presser and said, listen, we drafted... David Tepper jumped
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  Speaker 4: on the mic. David Tepper did during the GM and
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  Speaker 4: coach presser and said that Bryce Young is a point guard.
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  Speaker 4: He's the type of quarterback where it almost doesn't matter
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  Speaker 4: who the receivers are, I'm paraphrasing, because he's just going
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  Speaker 4: to distribute to everybody. And Mike Kay brought that up
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  Speaker 4: and David Tepper kind of took a little exception.
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  Speaker 2: Listen to this.
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  Speaker 6: You talked about... You talked about Bryce becoming a point
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  Speaker 6: guard when you did discuss those Super Bowls and said
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  Speaker 6: that you didn't need to surround him with a lot
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  Speaker 6: of stuff. How do you feel with him being contract
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  Speaker 6: extension eligible?
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  Speaker 7: Whoa, whoa, whoa. Don't surround him with a lot of stuff.
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  Speaker 6: You didn't need to invest as much into the receiving core.
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  Speaker 7: No, I never said that. That's wrong. Okay, I never
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  Speaker 7: said that. How do you become a point guard without
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  Speaker 7: players around you? That makes no sense.
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  Speaker 5: Try again.
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  Speaker 6: Okay. That you could boost the talent around him because
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  Speaker 6: of his point guard distribution skills. Do you not remember this?
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  Speaker 7: I said he's a point guard and he distributes the
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  Speaker 7: ball around, but he needs people to distribute around. That's
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  Speaker 7: why what you say makes no sense.
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  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 15:28
  Speaker 3: He hit him with a flounder, okay, at the end
• 15:30
  Speaker 3: of it, Mike K. I know a lot— What we
• 15:32
  Speaker 3: have here is a developing situation.
• 15:34
  Speaker 4: I mean, I didn't know if we should play this because, like,
• 15:38
  Speaker 4: I like Mike K a lot, and I think Mike
• 15:39
  Speaker 4: K was— and Fitty's got the comment. We're going to play
• 15:43
  Speaker 4: the comment, and we can all judge if that's what
• 15:46
  Speaker 4: Tepper said. But, like— I didn't really necessarily love that
• 15:50
  Speaker 4: moment for Mike Kay. I thought Tepper was being a
• 15:52
  Speaker 4: bit unfair, a bit harsh to him. It was such
• 15:55
  Speaker 4: a hot-button thing with fans, though, when they heard it,
• 15:57
  Speaker 4: that I don't want to shy away from stuff that
• 15:59
  Speaker 4: is hot-button stuff the fans are talking about. So I
• 16:02
  Speaker 4: feel like we had to play it. I guess we
• 16:06
  Speaker 4: should play the Tepper cutbone and decide.
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Make a verdict on this.
• 16:11
  Speaker 4: Let's go. All right, so this is the comment Mike
• 16:13
  Speaker 4: Kay was referring to that Tepper pushed back on.
• 16:16
  Speaker 8: You know, the way he throws the ball, the way
• 16:18
  Speaker 8: he's a point guard, how you can use the different
• 16:21
  Speaker 8: players in the field, how you might not have to
• 16:23
  Speaker 8: have as many elite receivers because he's a point guard, right?
• 16:27
  Speaker 8: So he distributes the ball to people with routes. So
• 16:30
  Speaker 8: you can save some money there, you know, we believe
• 16:32
  Speaker 8: we can save money other places because of him and
• 16:35
  Speaker 8: put that money into the defensive side of the ball.
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: You're the gotcha guy. Multiple people saying Mike K is
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: the gotcha guy today.
• 16:42
  Speaker 4: Advantage K. Yeah, that is 100% advantage, Mike K. And
• 16:46
  Speaker 4: I thought it was, but I was trying to paraphrase
• 16:49
  Speaker 4: the quote. He literally talked about saving money and not
• 16:52
  Speaker 4: needing elite wide receivers. He is backtracking and trying to
• 16:57
  Speaker 4: distance himself from that comment. Next thing you know, Tepper's
• 16:59
  Speaker 4: going to say he never submitted that play from the
• 17:01
  Speaker 4: Cleveland Browns, which I've always wanted to.
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: Know what play that was. That is allegedly.
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: I want to know what play that was.
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: Was it Kevin Mack running the ball? Who was it?
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: That was reported. Yeah, that's not the best. I don't
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: love that out of David Tepper. Again, he's not worried
• 17:18
  Speaker 4: about what I love or don't love.
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: I don't think that's the same guy then that it
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: is now. I think he's different now. I believe that.
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think he'd say that sort of thing now.
• 17:28
  Speaker 4: So maybe he almost, I don't know, doesn't fully remember
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: him saying that or doesn't want, you.
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: Know what I mean?
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: Because I do think he, I don't think he'd make the,
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: I mean, like, that was the coach and GM presser.
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: And there he is grabbing a mic and trying to
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: break down football and how we can build, like, that's
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: Jerry Jones-esque type stuff. And that's some of the stuff
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: that he did early on as an owner, the two-year
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: point bone, I don't think he does anymore.
• 17:51
  Speaker 9: Yeah. You know what I mean?
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: But in that moment, it felt like Mike K was right.
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: There's no doubt about it. Alpha Nathan says, disagree with you.
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: Tepper talked about elite talent around Bryce taking away from
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: defense money, but he literally said you can save money
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: because Bryce is a quarterback and he'll just, or a
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: point guard, he'll just get it to everybody and you
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: don't need elite receivers. You can save money that way
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: and spend it on the defense. That is basically what Mike,
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: Mike K didn't say to spend it on the defense part,
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: but Mike K basically said it. That you said that
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: you don't need great receivers. You could save money in
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: that area. So, yeah, I don't think that's alpha nation
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: says I'm no temper defender. It feels I think you
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: are now. And I don't think you're correct in your defense.
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: Some people are into this major league baseball in North
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: Carolina thing. I mean, I'd be into it bone if
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: I thought Charlotte had a shot at it. I would
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: be into it more than I am. Not that I'm
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: not into it, but I'd be into it more. David
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: Tepper was asked about, do you think we could see
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: Major League Baseball in North Carolina, and do you have
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: any interest in being involved in an ownership group?
• 18:57
  Speaker 7: Talk to Dundon and Raleigh.
• 18:59
  Speaker 6: I mean, Charlotte?
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: Or being part of a partnership with him.
• 19:06
  Speaker 7: You know, it's just very political with baseball, right? And
• 19:09
  Speaker 7: this is, you know, in this state. So, I mean,
• 19:12
  Speaker 7: I think he may come to North Carolina. It'll be
• 19:15
  Speaker 7: a harder job with that legislature to bring it here
• 19:19
  Speaker 7: versus Raleigh, quite frankly. I mean, that's the truth. So, yeah,
• 19:23
  Speaker 7: I mean, you know, I'm watching it.
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: He's watching it, but it seems like he's not very
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: interested in getting involved in it. And we've kind of said, Bone,
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: that it would take someone like that getting involved in
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: pushing Charlotte to have a chance.
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: Part of the problem, there's no one that's completely invested.
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: Even Salt Lake City has a whole group now. Apparently,
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: they're very much in the running now as well for
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: what we think two teams. It feels like Raleigh's the shot,
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: and it feels like Dundon's the shot, and Tepper seems
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: like he's kind of acknowledging that. I do want to
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: acknowledge something, Bone, on the semantic side of things here.
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: Something very interesting has happened. Multiple people are defending David
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: Tepper on the text line today. This is just, this
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: is a heartwarming moment. People are saying, Mac, he didn't
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: say no elite. You don't need any elite receivers. He said,
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: you don't need as many elite receivers. Is it not
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: what Mike K was describing though? Yeah, I think it was.
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: If Mike Hayden described it to a T, is he
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: not describing the spirit of what David Tepper said? And
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: David Tepper seemed like he's distancing himself from the spirit.
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: The point guard stuff was the main thing.
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: And that you can get by without... Tons of great
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: receivers because he's a point guard. Like, we can argue
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: about semantics all day. You know, I think David Tepper
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: was kind of trying to distance himself from those comments.
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: When we come back, the much-awaited victory formula for Sunday
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: versus the Bears. Sports Radio 92.7.
• 21:10
  Speaker 9: I have a huge Jalen Coker fan.
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: He, uh, come on in. Come on, Adam.
• 21:16
  Speaker 9: He, uh, when I left Carolina and I got back
• 21:19
  Speaker 9: to Minnesota, I told everyone he's, he's their best receiver.
• 21:22
  Speaker 9: I truly believe that he is their best receiver and
• 21:25
  Speaker 9: he has the ability to be one of the better
• 21:28
  Speaker 9: receivers in the league. He doesn't have a weakness. He's
• 21:31
  Speaker 9: 230 pounds and runs a four, four. Like he is a.
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: Massive target who ran.
• 21:37
  Speaker 9: I think, uh, there was a game, uh, my last
• 21:40
  Speaker 9: year in Carolina where he ran like 22 miles per hour.
• 21:43
  Speaker 9: And so like the guy can run and he's huge
• 21:47
  Speaker 9: and he can run slants. He's got body control. He
• 21:49
  Speaker 9: can run dig routes. He can, his, his ability to
• 21:53
  Speaker 9: stop and start is incredible for a guy who's 230
• 21:57
  Speaker 9: pounds and running that fast, like incredible. And so his
• 22:01
  Speaker 9: biggest question mark was injuries, right? Like he's had a
• 22:04
  Speaker 9: lot of injuries. He's missed a lot of games. And
• 22:06
  Speaker 9: that was his biggest question mark. But he is, in
• 22:09
  Speaker 9: my opinion, their best receiver. That is Adam Thielen. That's
• 22:12
  Speaker 9: cool stuff right there with Matthew Barry on.
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: The, I'm stalling, Fantasy Football Happy Hour Podcast.
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: Now, that's juicy.
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: Jalen Coker, and he knows him well, and he also,
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: you know, was here. During the offseason with TMAC, right?
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: And through a little bit of training camp in the
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: preseason before that trade that he asked for, Bone. But
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: he would then ask for the trade for the place
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: he was traded to. So anyway, I don't know. Adam
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: Thielen kind of lost me a little bit with that
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: whole thing.
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: But I like that comment.
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: And it's interesting because he says Jalen Coker is the
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: best receiver on the Panthers.
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: How about that? Listen, I don't know if I'm... Again,
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: he knows... Well, if he's better than T-Mac, we got
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: a hell of a duo. Yeah, that's the way I'm
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: going to look at it.
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: Like, I would argue with Thielen, but it would sound
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: weird because he played wide receiver to high level in
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: the NFL, and I sit on the couch and scratch
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: my rear end.
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you played when you were seven.
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: So, like, I feel like me arguing Thielen about wide
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: receiver play would be odd for me. But I would
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: still say T-Mac's the guy, but you just nailed the takeaway.
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: If Coker's anywhere near what he is saying, and I
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: think a lot of Panther fans think he can be,
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: that's a hell of a duo moving forward.
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: I don't take that as a knock on T-Mac. I
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: take that as, oh, my God, how good are these
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: guys together? Yes, 100%. I think that's the right way
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: to do it. I don't think it was a slight
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: towards the other guy. I think it was praise for Coker.
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: I think that is 100% the way to do it.
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: And it had been a quiet preseason for Coker. I
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: was talking to Colin on Colin's show about that yesterday.
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: I don't lose any belief.
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: Like, I saw the Rams game, Bo, and I saw
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: the stretch run of the last two seasons. When he's healthy,
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: he's got to stay fit. He's got to stay healthy, man.
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: All right, let's talk about this victory formula, Bone. Our
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: week one victory formulas, Bone, have not worked well. The
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: Panthers have not.
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: Been able to do all the stuff offensively going into
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: these week one games the last few years that we
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: have asked them to do.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: But we've got to do it again, baby. We've got
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: to give this a go.
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: What do you think, Bone, is at the top of
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: your list? And y'all feel free to chime in and
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: contribute here. You know Dave Kanellis is taking notes right
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: now at Panther Headquarters. What's the number one thing that
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: you say, oh, we got to do this to pull
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: the upset?
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: I think time of possession in this particular game is big.
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: Sustaining drives and converting third downs to keep the Bears
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: defense on the field.
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: They're not a good defense. They're not good on third down.
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: But, Maggie, I always look at week one as well
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: where it's 87 degrees. It's not the hottest, but it's
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: still going to be hot there on the field. Can
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: you get the Bears already leaky defense, tired defense, Look, yeah,
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: it's great if the Panthers score quickly, but I would
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: like to see them run the ball, sustain drives, and
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: wear down this Bears defense and make them have to
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: defend out there a lot.
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: Within the game. Yep, and keep Caleb Wilson. My goodness.
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: That's another Chicago guy. It's true.
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: Keep Caleb Williams on the bench. Keep him over there
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: where he can't hurt us. Keep him over there, Bone,
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: where he'll probably be filing those pretty nails on the sidelines.
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: I couldn't resist. The first nail counter of the week.
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: I am actually, like, I believe you do you. I
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: believe individualism is great, so you do you. But I
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: can't help myself. We're playing the Bears this week, and
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: the man has pretty long nails. So anyway, let me
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: continue here. How about break one of his nails, Bone?
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: Is that in the victory formula? Break a nail. Hide
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: his nail file.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: Oh, God.
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: I swear I'll be mature and accepting here the rest
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: of the segment. Yeah, I think that's a good one, Bone.
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: I think it is.
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: Again, a lot of these victory formula things can be
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: used every week, but don't turn the ball over. Feels
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: so important this week. because the Bears used those turnovers
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: last year, were the best turnover margin team in the
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: NFL last year.
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: They feasted off them.
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: And they were 9-0 when they forced multiple turnovers last year.
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: They were 3-7 when they didn't.
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: Turn this thing over one or less and give yourself
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: a chance to win.
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: They are so built on takeaways and not giving the
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: ball away. They were number one on both last year.
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: Win this damn turnover margin.
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: Let's see how good they are if you beat them
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: in the turnover margin because that number I just read
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: said they're a 30% winning percentage when they only get
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: one turnover. And it's big for our team in week
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: one because the Panthers have nine turnovers in the last
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: three week ones.
• 26:42
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: Nine of them.
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: Bryce has six interceptions in three week one games. That
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: crap has to stop, man.
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: I think that they also, this is going to sound weird,
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: the defense needs.
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: They need to let the wide receivers be the guys
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: that can beat them. They've got to limit Colston Loveland.
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: I think he's their best offensive player. I think he's
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: their biggest threat. If he goes off and he goes
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: and gets 100 yards and a touch, they need to
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: limit him. I don't have fear of burden or potentially
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: a doomsday, but I do have a fear of Colston Loveland.
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: They have to limit him. And if he leads them
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: in receiving yards, I have a feeling that means that
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: the Bears are doing what they want to do on offense.
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: I don't want him to beat us.
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: I agree.
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: Like, you don't want third down. There's Loveland again. And
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: I would hope Devin Lloyd can do something about that, right?
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: I mean, he is so much better of a cover
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: guy than any of the linebackers we had last year.
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: That is true, because my fear is always, like, going
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: back to the past. So you're right. Lloyd is there.
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: And a character, I know he's older, and some people
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: in New York said, hey, told Joe Person, hey, he
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: lost a step. But his coverage numbers on PFF are
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: still pretty good last year. So I think we're way
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: better covering. But to that setbone, At Jacksonville joint practice,
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: it sounded like we weren't able to cover the tight end.
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: So that's a fear. I think you've got to stop
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: the run.
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: I know I'm giving the most cliched answers to the
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: victory formula, but I think the Bears are a run
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: team first. I think for all the hype of Caleb Williams.
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: And you talk about the tight ends and all that hype.
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: I think this is about Swift, Menungai, and can we
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: slow their running game? They ran at bone the second
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: most times in the league. They were the third best
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: running team. It is a great combination. I think we've
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: got to slow it, man. I think you've got to
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: get Caleb Williams. in third and longs, and then I
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: think you've got to spy on him because I don't
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: think you can let that dude take off and scramble
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: on you. He had 363 scramble yards last year, so
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: he's not doing it on design runs. He only had
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: 25 yards on design runs. It's the scrambles, Bo. He
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: is dangerous. He is electric, man. He had a 99
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: run grade. on pff under pressure um and it is
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: because of the scrambles that's what it is they've also
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: got questions they've got questions right now on the offensive
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: line that ben johnson's acknowledged especially uh left tackle right
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: now can the panthers take advantage of that as well
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: in this game.
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: That left tackle spot is a sore spot right now
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: for the Bears.
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Braxton Jones in there. The problem is we got
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: the backups going at it, right? We got no Jones.
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: We got no Skorton on that side.
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: New center because they're all pro, Pro Bowl center. Drew
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: Dallman retired as well. Keep that in mind, that. It's
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: a new center for the Bears this year as well.
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: Gary Bradbury.
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: I think Princely's got to get after Braxton Jones. Like,
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: when it's third and eight, I think Princely's got to
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: beat that left tackle. And then we'll see what their
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: best tackle, Darnell right does against our best rusher on
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: the other side jalen phillips this dude says i would
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: blitz caleb williams i would make him have to make
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: quick decisions uh yeah i think he did but.
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: That goes into the problem that mac is talking about
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: though he's one of those quarterbacks where sometimes if he
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: puts him though and he gets loose.
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: He You play man and we blitz and then he
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: takes off and runs.
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: Sometimes you want to keep him in the pocket because
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: if he gets out, that's when he makes those crazy
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: plays that will kill you. That's when all of a
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: sudden Loveland pops up in the middle of the field
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: and there he is and Cale Williams somehow found him.
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: I think you obviously got to mix it up. I
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: think the big thing is the disguise coverages. that stat
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: that that fantasy dork had bone that we read off
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: yesterday um he had the williams had these fantasy analysts
• 30:25
  Speaker 4: had these oh yeah that too had the sixth worst
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: epa for quarterbacks versus disguise coverages and averro and the
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: panthers are up at the towards the top of disguise
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: looks i think that's what it is more than blitzing
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: not saying you wouldn't pick your spots but like give
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: him disguises where he can't You know what I mean?
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: Doesn't know what the coverage is and stuff like that.
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: What are the texters saying, Bone? They got any good ideas?
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: Let me see.
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: Or is it just Bebop arguing with you on the
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: text line, Boney? Skip him, skip him, skip him.
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: Skip him.
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: Oh, Amit.
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: Shocking.
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: Amit loves the players on the other team. I've never
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: seen this before. Amit says Burden and Romeo are studs
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: and ready to explode with Ben Johnson. They're both a
• 31:06
  Speaker 4: lot better than DJ Moore. Bone is underestimating them still
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: all week. Both will have 100 yards in a TD.
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: Both are going to have 100 yards on our corners.
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: One is hurt right now, so we're not even sure
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: of his status entering the game yet in Odunze. Also,
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: both will have 100 yards. You do realize, so J.C.
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: Horn and Mike Jack are both giving up 100 to
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: those guys. Yeah, that's crazy talk. Let me guess, Loveland
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: also has 100 during the game too there. How many
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: yards is Williams throwing for in this game? 900?
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: Amid is one of these Panther fans where everybody on
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: the other teams are great and everybody on our team sucks.
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: Like, I just, like, I can't.
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: Like, for example, Drake May, again, great young quarterback, going
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: to have a great career. But Drake May absolutely threw
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: that game away to the Seahawks last night. Those three
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: interceptions were terrible. I know he said he was trying
• 31:53
  Speaker 4: to throw that ball away at the end. Bro, that
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: was a horrible attempt to do it. Put that thing
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: in the damn mezzanine if you have to. But Drake May,
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: nobody's going to admit it. He's never going to say
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: a bad word about Drake May. But could you imagine
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: if Bryce Young did that to a game? That we
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: had a 10-point lead in and then threw three interceptions?
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: There would be picketing outside the stadium.
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: So some of y'all are players and coaches suck.
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: The rest of the league's players and coaches are the
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: greatest in the history of football.
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: It's nauseating, man. It really is.
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: So do you think they're better off without DJ Moore
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: in that offense with Cale Williams?
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: I don't think so. They're young. They're young. I mean,
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: they're kind of like poker. They're young.
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: They didn't add anybody to replace TJ Moore. They're putting
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: it all on those two guys. They are.
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: But again, they're run game base, tight end base, stuff
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: like that, too. You know what I mean? I don't
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: think they need those guys to have the emit type
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: day to beat us, necessarily. They spread it around, Bone.
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: They had six guys last year have between 313 and
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: 713 receiving yards. They're very balanced. It's not necessarily one
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: guy is going to die with DJ more. There wasn't
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: like one guy is going to dominate that. Let's see
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: what else we have. Darren says Drake has been. I
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: understand it.
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: I understand.
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: I'm not comparing what I am just saying that that we.
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: Everything that's done here, some of y'all just lose your minds.
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: It's not worth arguing about. Y'all know what I'm talking about.
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: We have one of the worst spellings in the history
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: of the text line right now. Look at the 704 number, Mac,
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: and what he says. It's about five texts down. Look
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: at his spelling of Roma Doomsday. Mike Jack will lock
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: up Roomba Doomsday.
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: He's not trying to lock up the vacuum cleaner. Roomba Doomsday. Roomba.
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: Is Roomba going to suck like a vacuum this weekend?
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: I hope so.
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: That sounds like a Key & Peele sketch character.
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: I hope so.
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: This dude says, Roomba doomsday, Washington. This texter, 704 number,
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: Mac needs a damn IPA. Fitty, go out and get
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: this guy a beer. He's been stressed all week. He's
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: been ornery all week. Where is happy Mac? I'm very
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: happy that football's here. But some of you negative dodo birds,
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: it's just, it's annoying. Like, you're the type of guy
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: that if he was, would be taken off the group chat. Like,
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: I would take you off the damn group chat. Or
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: I would take myself off the group chat.
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: There you go.
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: I ain't here for the over-the-top negative energy. I'm not.
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: Like, if we completely stink and put up a 10-point
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: spot and three turnovers like we have done the last
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: three years in the opener, I will come on here
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: and I will join you as a negative Nancy. But, like,
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: the constant negative stuff and the other teams are amazing. Like,
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: you're off my group chat. Get off my damn group chat.
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: If we come out like a baby's blowout infested diaper,
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: then we'll talk about it.
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: We will rip the crap out of you.
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: To quote the great poet Chris McClain. When we come back,
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: let's all settle down here and let the real experts
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: back debate the ins and outs of the Bears-Panthers game.
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: We're going to go to Granny's house. We're going to
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: talk to Granny Pat and Weatherman Mark at a roundtable.
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Sports Radio 92.7 WFNZ. Thank you. All right, let's
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: do this, baby.
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: Let's do this.
• 35:26
  Speaker 4: It is time for the week one Panther Fan Roundtable,
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: but Granny Pat still gets her entrance music. It doesn't
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: matter if it's a roundtable, a Granny's House segment. She
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: still gets her entrance music. We've got Granny Pat and
• 35:40
  Speaker 4: Weatherman Mark ready to represent Panther Nation for better or
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: worse with another rousing addition. of the Panther Fan Roundtable, everybody.
• 35:51
  Speaker 4: Let's bring her in. She is the star of the Roundtable.
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: She is the franchise player bone of our Panther Fan
• 35:58
  Speaker 4: Roundtable group. She is the great Granny Pat. Granny, are
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: you ready for week one?
• 36:04
  Speaker 5: Yes, I am. I'm so excited about it. Good feelings
• 36:10
  Speaker 5: about it.
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: I like it, Granny.
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: I like it, Granny, because sometimes you worry, Granny. Do
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: you have a hatred for the Bears, Granny? You don't
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: like a lot of people. Do you hate the Bears?
• 36:17
  Speaker 8: No.
• 36:19
  Speaker 5: I don't hate the Bears, but I kind of like
• 36:24
  Speaker 5: their coach.
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: Oh, no.
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: Oh, Granny. He's on your list, huh? Is he a hunk?
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: Is he a hunk?
• 36:31
  Speaker 5: Oh, my God. He's a doll baby. He went to
• 36:34
  Speaker 5: Chapel Hill.
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: That is true.
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: That is true.
• 36:39
  Speaker 4: Here's the thing, though, Granny. Don't we have a doll
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: baby as our head coach?
• 36:44
  Speaker 5: Well, he is handsome, but he needs some more– Get
• 36:48
  Speaker 5: and go fire out there. That's what I think.
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: What was that last thing? What does he need? He
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: needs more gout?
• 36:55
  Speaker 5: He needs some more get up and go fire.
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: Fire and desire, right? He likes her guys to get
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: up and go, I guess. You like feisty men.
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: Is your husband Marvin a feisty man or no?
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: He was.
• 37:10
  Speaker 5: I mean, we were caught in Freedom Park making out,
• 37:13
  Speaker 5: so yeah.
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: Fuck. All right, can we get the weatherman here before
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: this thing gets canceled?
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: Oh, I forgot we were doing a Panther fan roundtable.
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: He's at the front door at Granny's house.
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: I thought it was Granny Talks Men on the Mac
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: and Bone show. All right, my bad. Weatherman Mark in.
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: We got sidetracked.
• 37:28
  Speaker 4: Weatherman Mark, are you feeling positive going into week one?
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: How you feeling, man?
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: We got it going on, man. We're going to get
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: this done Sunday afternoon. I got the Wagyu burgers ready
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: to put on the smoker. And me and Winston are
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: going to have a good time listening to us tear
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: up the old bears.
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: I love it.
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: Mark, you're going Wagyu. That's like high end, man. That's
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: first class, Mark.
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: I thought you guys left me at Granny's front door.
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: I kept knocking.
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: We were in there letting her talk about different men.
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: She had a sock on the door. Oh, my God. Oh,
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: dear God. All right. Mark, let's talk. All right. Let's
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: talk Panthers, y'all. We're supposed to focus, baby. We're supposed
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: to focus. It's week one, man. Ain't no time for
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: this anymore. All right.
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: Mark, why are you feeling so good about week one?
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: Because at times you can get a little down as
• 38:30
  Speaker 4: a fan. What's got you feeling good this week?
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: Oh, no, sir. No, sir. I think what we got
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: to do. And I think we got the edge rushers
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: and the middle line defense to stop that. You know,
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: that running back, he's exceptional. We've got to stop him
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: up the middle. I think we can block him up
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: the middle. I think we can contain that running back
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: on the edge. And I think we are going to
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: contain Caleb Williams. I think we're going to... contain him.
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: And I think Bryce is going to ball the freak out.
• 39:05
  Speaker 4: I like it, man. Weatherman Mark feeling good. Now, Granny,
• 39:08
  Speaker 4: what is your reaction now that we have answered the
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: door and let Weatherman Mark into Granny's house? What is
• 39:14
  Speaker 4: your reaction to what Mark's saying? Do you think he's right?
• 39:17
  Speaker 4: We'll do all those things well against a team as
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: good as the Bears?
• 39:22
  Speaker 5: I think so. I'm not crazy about Bryce. I do
• 39:28
  Speaker 5: think we're gonna win. and I don't know why we
• 39:32
  Speaker 5: got so many things against us with injuries and stuff,
• 39:37
  Speaker 5: but I believe we are going to win.
• 39:41
  Speaker 9: I really do.
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: It's like a feeling you have.
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: What do you think of all the negativity with the
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: fans and the texters?
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: What do you think about those people?
• 39:50
  Speaker 5: Well, they got their right bone. They got their right
• 39:54
  Speaker 5: to spill it out. And I understand. I understand. But
• 39:58
  Speaker 5: I've got a good feeling about this. I really do.
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: I like it.
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: Now, I've got to talk to you about this Bryce thing. Like,
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: you say you're not big on Bryce.
• 40:06
  Speaker 5: No.
• 40:07
  Speaker 4: Does that come back to the whole fire and desire,
• 40:11
  Speaker 4: some get up and go? Do you want your quarterback,
• 40:14
  Speaker 4: like your coach, to be more fiery?
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: Is that what it is?
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 40:19
  Speaker 5: Yes, I do. Now, Bryce doesn't have it in him.
• 40:24
  Speaker 5: He's such a great guy, but he needs to get
• 40:28
  Speaker 5: fired up and just run the hell out of that ball.
• 40:33
  Speaker 5: I don't know. He just doesn't have it, Matt, but
• 40:36
  Speaker 5: he's going to do it Sunday.
• 40:38
  Speaker 4: But he's not that– like he's more of the cool, calm,
• 40:40
  Speaker 4: and collective like QB, right? Like he's not going to
• 40:44
  Speaker 4: get too high, not going to get too– I sense
• 40:46
  Speaker 4: you would be like a Baker Mayfield type guy.
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: You like Brett Favre back.
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: In the day. Yeah, Brett Favre. Are those your kind
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: of guys or no?
• 40:53
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I like them. I do like them. I don't
• 40:58
  Speaker 5: know about this– Williams quarterback. He's not one of my favorites.
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: Do you mind you take Brett Favre to Freedom Park, Grant?
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: If he was wearing his Crocs.
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: Let's go to Mark.
• 41:11
  Speaker 5: Ben Johnson.
• 41:13
  Speaker 4: Poor Ben Johnson, man. Ben Johnson now has canceled his
• 41:16
  Speaker 4: flight to Charlotte. He's going to coach from Chicago, Bone,
• 41:19
  Speaker 4: via Zoom. Weatherman Mark, you ever been to Freedom Park?
• 41:22
  Speaker 4: Let's go to Weatherman Mark. Weatherman Mark, you got any
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: good makeout stories? Freedom Park or anything like that?
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: Oh, Lord. Granny, first of all, I'm glad you're back
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: with us and healthy and ready to go, honey. I
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: missed you.
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: Oh, that's nice. That's sweet, man.
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: I really miss Granny's house, I'll tell you.
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: I like that. Yeah, she got to bring it back, man.
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, honey, I've got to tell you, you've got to
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: get some confidence with Bryce. You know, if you remember
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: the games last, at the end of the season... When
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: the game is on the line, Bryce shows up, but I'm,
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: I agree with her in certain respects. That Bryce has
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: got to start to show up in the beginning of
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: the year.
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: Beginning of the year, beginning of games.
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: And falling out, I'm telling you.
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: 100%, 100%.
• 42:14
  Speaker 4: Now, Granny, do you have a problem? Because a texter
• 42:20
  Speaker 4: just brought this up. Weatherman Mark is being condescending to
• 42:24
  Speaker 4: Granny by calling her honey repeatedly. Do you have a problem?
• 42:28
  Speaker 4: Do you have a problem being called honey?
• 42:30
  Speaker 5: I do not have a problem.
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: I didn't think you would.
• 42:34
  Speaker 5: I do not.
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: I think you're good, Mark.
• 42:35
  Speaker 5: I mean, I love it myself.
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: Ooh, Marky! Marky hitting the right buttons!
• 42:43
  Speaker 5: Mark, she's married.
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: I know. I'm sorry.
• 42:45
  Speaker 4: I know you're married. And as a married person myself,
• 42:48
  Speaker 4: I should respect that more.
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry. I'm sorry, Cranky. It's kind of exciting.
• 42:52
  Speaker 5: But, Mac, we're going.
• 42:56
  Speaker 5: We really are going to win. I don't know why
• 42:59
  Speaker 5: I feel like that, but it's looking good.
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: I like it.
• 43:03
  Speaker 4: Now, let's close this down, Granny, with your win prediction
• 43:07
  Speaker 4: for the season.
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: How many wins?
• 43:08
  Speaker 5: Nine and eight.
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: Nine and eight. Do you think we're in the playoffs again?
• 43:14
  Speaker 9: Yes.
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: There you go, Granny. There you go! I love that.
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: I love that. Granny, I'll give you some fire and desire, Granny!
• 43:24
  Speaker 7: Well, we will win.
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: I like that. I like that, Granny. You're going to
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: send the life alert off. Oh, come on, Bo. No,
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: I'm talking about my own.
• 43:32
  Speaker 5: I want to thank the people for giving me all
• 43:35
  Speaker 5: those recommendations when I needed it the most.
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: Are you feeling good, Granny? Are you feeling great?
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: Granny, what's the pregame meal or drink you're having on Sunday?
• 43:44
  Speaker 5: I had a little bowel problem, and they said it's
• 43:47
  Speaker 5: from a chicken bone.
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: You swallowed a chicken bone?
• 43:52
  Speaker 5: I guess.
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: What were you doing? Just eating chicken and somehow you
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: chomped on a bone?
• 43:57
  Speaker 5: I guess. I can't believe it. I want Finney to
• 44:02
  Speaker 5: be aware of this.
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: Finney, watch for the bones when you're eating that fried chicken.
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: The way Mac eats chicken, he can just chew one.
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: How does that not happen to me? That's a good question.
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: All right, Granny, you rock, Granny.
• 44:15
  Speaker 5: Okay, boys.
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: Enjoy it on Sunday.
• 44:18
  Speaker 4: Weatherman Mark, what is your win total prediction for the season?
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: 13.
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, baby.
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: You mean wins, right?
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: I've got two. I think we're going to ball out
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: and God bless. You know, there's God bless Granny Pat.
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you right now, she makes me laugh. She
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: made me have a Already a good day this morning, man.
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: I hope you guys, too.
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: Me, too.
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: You, too, Mark. You brighten our day, too, man. You're
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: a lovable dude, man. There's never a bad time at
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: Granny's house.
• 44:52
  Speaker 4: The funny thing, a texter just said something, though, about Mark.
• 44:56
  Speaker 4: 704 number says, Weatherman Mark's optimistic now. Wait until about
• 45:00
  Speaker 4: 1.30 and the Panthers are down 14-0.
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: He'll be on the text line.
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: He'll be one of those guys that I read off
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: on Monday.
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: Keep it together during the game, Mark, all right? Don't
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: get too high or too low, baby.
• 45:11
  Speaker 4: All right?
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: I dropped him.
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: Oh, he's gone.
• 45:13
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: Husky fan says, Mark is so positive, yet so depressing
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: at the same time.
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: It's a very odd combination. You see the guy, Jack?
• 45:19
  Speaker 4: Jack said, Mark does not have the fire and desire
• 45:22
  Speaker 4: for granny anyway.
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: Oh, man. We come back.
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