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GOVERNMENT PSYCHIC SPY | SPACE WARS | UFO DRONES · Ryder Lee

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Speaker 1: David Morehouse, welcome back to the show. It's good to
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Speaker 2: Hey, Hi writer, thanks for having me again.
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Speaker 1: It's been a little bit since you've been on, Dave,
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Speaker 1: and I appreciate you coming back on, and it's wonderful
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Speaker 1: to have you back. And I think it's important to
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Speaker 1: give a little refresher for the people that may not
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Speaker 1: have seen our previous shows together. And then you know,
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Speaker 1: and I have a couple of remote viewing questions for you,
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Speaker 1: but then we're going to get into the UFOs and
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Speaker 1: the drones. So please, for the audience, Dave, if you
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Speaker 1: don't mind, could you give them a little bit of
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Speaker 1: a background on yourself and how you became a government
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Speaker 1: remov viewer for THEDIA.
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Speaker 2: Sure. First, I was not a psychic, not a psychic still,
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Speaker 2: and I was a special Operations Infantry officer. I commanded
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Speaker 2: the Army's only separate airborne rifle company. I was an
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Speaker 2: airborne rifle platoon leader and airborne XO for a company,
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Speaker 2: an aid to two generals. Then I commanded a ranger
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Speaker 2: company Bravo, first the seventy fifth Rangers for two years,
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Speaker 2: and commanded the Airborne company for two years, and then
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Speaker 2: went off into three special access programs. First one was ISA,
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Speaker 2: also called the Activity. There was a book out about
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Speaker 2: the organization when I was there called Killer Elite. It's
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Speaker 2: also called the Secret Army of Northern Virginia. Its color
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Speaker 2: code name is Orange. But I was in that for
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Speaker 2: eighteen months and left there because I was recruited into
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Speaker 2: the Stargate program, which at the time was called sun Streak,
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Speaker 2: and I came into Sun Streak, spent three years in
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Speaker 2: sun Streak, which was both some of the good stuff
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Speaker 2: and best stuff, but also some of the most disappointing
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Speaker 2: stuff that I had seen in the military, and then
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Speaker 2: left there to become I went to an organization called
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Speaker 2: torn Image, which was a strategic deception organization. For those
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Speaker 2: that don't know as strategic deception is basically, well, let's
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Speaker 2: call it what it is. It's a lie perpetrated against
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Speaker 2: either the American people or against the real or perceived
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Speaker 2: enemies of the United States, including its allies that supports
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Speaker 2: That has to be supported for a minimum of ten years,
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Speaker 2: so it has to be a sustainable deception for a
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Speaker 2: minimum of ten years for it to be capable of
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Speaker 2: falling into the classification of being a strategic deception. There
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Speaker 2: are all kinds of things that that can be. I'm
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Speaker 2: happy to discuss some of that if you want to.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, give us an example of one of these perceptions
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Speaker 1: that were if you can, of.
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Speaker 2: Course, yeah. I mean, because it's all OBE at this
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Speaker 2: particular point in time. But I came in as as
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Speaker 2: a counter to CARTACS strategic deception officer. I was the
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Speaker 2: only guy that they had brought in to do that,
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Speaker 2: and they're unlike at Sun Streak, there were actually some
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Speaker 2: other infantry officers in torn Image, nobody from special ops. Again,
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Speaker 2: I was just kind of the token special operator that
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Speaker 2: was there. The rest of them were from conventional infantry.
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Speaker 2: Not even any of them came out of airborne. I mean,
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Speaker 2: they may have been airborne qualified, but they were not
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Speaker 2: airborne commanders or platoon leaders or battalion commanders. Most of
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Speaker 2: them had a really strong intelligence background. And also you
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Speaker 2: became what was called a great skiller when you came
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Speaker 2: to this place. I don't want to get into all that,
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Speaker 2: but it just says that you when you leave the
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Speaker 2: conventional army and go in to do something like ISA
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Speaker 2: the Secret Army of Northern Virginia, you go into the
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Speaker 2: Department of the Army Special Access Roster. They remove your
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Speaker 2: file from the standard file. So they go to Infantry
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Speaker 2: branch and say give me morehouses file, and that is
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Speaker 2: then taken to the DASSER floor where there's a room
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Speaker 2: of you handled by most of them were special Forces folks,
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Speaker 2: male and female, and they handled your file there and
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Speaker 2: they removed you from from the standard computer entries. So
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Speaker 2: if somebody in my social or my name had access
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Speaker 2: to from a Personnel Administration center typed in trying to
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Speaker 2: look to see where I was or something, it comes
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Speaker 2: up and says service member not on file. So if
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Speaker 2: your clue into what that means, it means like service
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Speaker 2: member not on file, Oh, he's probably on the DASSER
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Speaker 2: or they think like you just left. You left the
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Speaker 2: Army at some point, which is that that's their intent.
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Speaker 2: When you go even deeper into that, into the special
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Speaker 2: access programs, you get into what is called great skills.
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Speaker 2: And when you become a great skiller, they go to DASSER.
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Speaker 2: They take your file from DASSER and they remove it
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Speaker 2: from the Administration building and they go to a completely
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Speaker 2: different place behind high fences and lots of security, and
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Speaker 2: they put your file there and then What happens is
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Speaker 2: they tell you that you're supposed to tell your family
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Speaker 2: you have left the military and you're now a civilian
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Speaker 2: contractor or whatever. They give you a civilian an ID card.
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Speaker 2: You don't get paid through the normal army pay channels.
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Speaker 2: You actually get paid by check, and at least back
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Speaker 2: in those days, this was the eighties, you got paid
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Speaker 2: by check through a different pay process, and it was weird.
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Speaker 2: I mean I told my father, who was a retired
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Speaker 2: Army officer, that hey, Dad, I know I'm not in
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Speaker 2: the arm anymore. I'm now I'm a DA civilian. He's like, yeah,
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Speaker 2: the hell, you are not fooling for a bit. He
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Speaker 2: knew I was in special access programs. Nah, you are
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Speaker 2: not that.
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Speaker 1: So this is essentially how people like they get their
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Speaker 1: files hidden, is basically what you're explaining is. And that's
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Speaker 1: very very important because there's been several people that is supposedly,
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Speaker 1: you know, not that you're not a whistleblower, right, but
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Speaker 1: some whistleblowers have come out.
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Speaker 3: And then they've had their background.
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Speaker 1: Checked and it turned out that they couldn't be found
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Speaker 1: in any system, or that they weren't even a part
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Speaker 1: of the MI is it a possibility that maybe that
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Speaker 1: they were and it was just put behind this big
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Speaker 1: giant security blanket in like a different facility.
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Speaker 2: It's highly possible. The other thing to know about that
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Speaker 2: is that even your officer efficiency reports, your oeers as
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Speaker 2: they're called, they're classified, so nobody unless somebody has been
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Speaker 2: read onto the program, they can't read your oeers. It's
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Speaker 2: really funny. So like if you're for promotion, like when
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Speaker 2: I was promoted from major to lieutenant colonel, what happens
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Speaker 2: is they actually take your file and they they do
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Speaker 2: kind of a limited read on to the promotion board
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Speaker 2: and they allow them then to see classified officer efficiency reports,
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Speaker 2: you know, so they're looking primarily for where did your
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Speaker 2: senior raid or place you. They're not really interested in,
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Speaker 2: you know, the flowery language that every oeer has. They're
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Speaker 2: just looking for the key indicators to determine whether or
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Speaker 2: not that contributes to your promotion eligibility or inevitability or
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Speaker 2: whatever it's going to be. So they manage it like that,
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Speaker 2: but they have to be read on to a limited
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Speaker 2: read on and then given classified oeers. So there are
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Speaker 2: there are three or four ors that I have. I
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Speaker 2: haven't seen them since the day I saw them.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, That's what I was just getting ready to ask,
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Speaker 1: is like, what if you wanted your your paperwork of
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Speaker 1: being inside of these programs, you would not have any access.
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Speaker 2: It never happened. It would never happen and never be released.
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Speaker 3: Wow.
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Speaker 1: So what about like for you know, the VA or
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Speaker 1: something like that, How does that work with them? Like
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Speaker 1: if you don't have a file on record, then you
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Speaker 1: wouldn't be able to give VA benefits.
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Speaker 2: Right now, you have a file on record, you get VA.
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Speaker 2: You have every other thing you've done in the army
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Speaker 2: is there?
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Speaker 1: All right?
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Speaker 2: So your officer records briefs, you'r DD two fourteen is there?
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Speaker 2: You know, your oeers that are not classified are there?
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Speaker 2: But all the classified stuff stays. And because it is
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Speaker 2: until I don't know, maybe fifty years from now, they
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Speaker 2: would declassify. I highly doubt it, but given some of
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Speaker 2: the stuff that we were doing, but it's certainly a possibility.
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Speaker 2: But back to what is a strategic deception. My job,
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Speaker 2: my mission when I got there, it was just a
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Speaker 2: solo act, was to develop a counter narcotics deception that
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Speaker 2: would bring about an enter entrack cartel war. That was
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Speaker 2: simply what I was told to do, so what I
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Speaker 2: came up with. And so now I'm going to tell
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Speaker 2: you what I did, and I'm going to prefront I'm
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Speaker 2: going to front load you with this. Part of what
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Speaker 2: I did that I'm going to tell you is just
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Speaker 2: absolute fiction. And part of what I'm going to tell
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Speaker 2: you that I did is absolute truth. And that's a deception,
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Speaker 2: you understand, right, Yes, So the perception, the objective was
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Speaker 2: that if you take I dealt with plant pathogens, okay,
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Speaker 2: And so what I was doing was I went to
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Speaker 2: Los Alamos and met with a couple of botanists. You
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Speaker 2: would not believe that there are botanists in Los Alamos,
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Speaker 2: but there are. Believe it or not, they are. That's true,
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Speaker 2: they are there. And so when I was there, what
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Speaker 2: I looked at was I said, look, we're dealing with
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Speaker 2: a coca plant and we're dealing with it in three
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Speaker 2: particular regions of Columbia, yupp Oreoga Valley and you know,
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Speaker 2: et cetera. And I need to figure out a way
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Speaker 2: to cause damage to these things. What can we do?
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Speaker 2: So here was how it was relayed to me. Okay,
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Speaker 2: if you walk out into your back garden and you
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Speaker 2: look at all the plants that are in your back garden,
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Speaker 2: you're going to find that there are pathogens on pathogens,
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Speaker 2: parasitic pathogens on every one of those plants. The trick
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Speaker 2: is understanding that there will be pathogens unique to each
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Speaker 2: of those different plants, and there will be pathogens that
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Speaker 2: are unique to the entire garden. In other words, there
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Speaker 2: can be if there are ten pathogens, there will be
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Speaker 2: five or six of them. Maybe this is a hypothetical
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Speaker 2: unique to the entire garden. So there are same pathogens
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Speaker 2: on every plant, but there will be some plants that
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Speaker 2: only certain pathogens will be on and they will not
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Speaker 2: be on other plants, so they are unique only to
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Speaker 2: that particular plant. So the idea was to go into
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Speaker 2: Colombia and to sample plants and to bring them back
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Speaker 2: and to let the botanists see could they isolate a
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Speaker 2: suite of organisms that were unique to the coca plant
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Speaker 2: and were those same organisms inherent to every plant, regardless
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Speaker 2: of where within Colombia it was found and harvested from.
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Speaker 2: And so what happened is they isolated a suite of organisms,
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Speaker 2: and then we began to publish about that. And then
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Speaker 2: what we ended up doing because publishing. Publishing gets a
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Speaker 2: lot of interests spun up in that particular area. But
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Speaker 2: then what happened is the idea of bioengineering was entered
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Speaker 2: into the equation, and bioengineering said to be capable of
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Speaker 2: training or bioengineering. Think of it as training, okay, training
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Speaker 2: this pathogen to attack something on that plant, and the idea,
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Speaker 2: the target, the focus of it was to attack the
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Speaker 2: psychoactive the molecular chain and the psychoactive ingredient in the
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Speaker 2: coca plant that ultimately, after it was gone through all
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Speaker 2: the precursor chemical processing of it, you developed coca paste
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Speaker 2: and cocaine right that was being sold on the streets
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Speaker 2: and still is. But if you had the ability to
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Speaker 2: break the molecular chain in some way, just break it,
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Speaker 2: remove a piece of it, it no longer it no
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Speaker 2: longer had the same psychogenic effect for anybody using it,
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Speaker 2: it would be you might as well use baking soda.
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Speaker 1: You know, people just baking soda all the time.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. So now that was a big question, can we
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Speaker 2: make that happen or can we not make it happen?
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Speaker 2: And it took months of working and experimenting for them
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Speaker 2: to come up with Yeah, we think but we're not
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Speaker 2: sure yet. Well, all of that was working, I still
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Speaker 2: had to continue to generate the deception. So the deception
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Speaker 2: doesn't wait for the factual evidence of what you're going
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Speaker 2: to be capable of doing. The deception has to continue on,
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Speaker 2: which is I have a cycle active. I mean I
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Speaker 2: have a pathogen that has now been bioengineered to remove
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Speaker 2: the psychoactic an ingredient within the coca plant. I can
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Speaker 2: break that biology. Okay, that chemistry. So now the issue
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Speaker 2: is how do I what's a delivery system? So we
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Speaker 2: worked into micro encapsulation, and back in the eighties, micro
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Speaker 2: encapsulation was not new, but it was radical because you
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Speaker 2: could micro encapsulate various things that would allow them to
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Speaker 2: exist encapsulated, but the encapsulation could be programmed to do
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Speaker 2: different things. In other words, it could the encapsulation would
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Speaker 2: open up when it hit metal, or the encapsulation would
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Speaker 2: open up when it hit carc paint, or the encapsulation
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Speaker 2: would open up when the temperature got to a certain degree,
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Speaker 2: or the encapsulation would open up you know, if it
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Speaker 2: got wet, or you know, if something else. You could
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Speaker 2: pretty much you could pretty much engineer the encapsulation to
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Speaker 2: be whatever you wanted it to be. Had a huge
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Speaker 2: role in non lethal weapons delivery technologies, things like you know,
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Speaker 2: the adhesives and the other things that were being that
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Speaker 2: were being developed there where you could spray tank encapsulation
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Speaker 2: would hit it swell up with this big quarter inch adhesive,
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Speaker 2: this rigid adhesive where the turrent of the tank could
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Speaker 2: no longer traverse. If it was on the tracks and
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Speaker 2: the road wheels of the tank, it could not move.
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Speaker 2: It had to be chiseled off with air chisels or
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Speaker 2: with chisels, and then you could They would put in
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Speaker 2: the actual in the actual adhesive. They would mix in
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Speaker 2: things like cadaverine, fecoline. These were odorants that they would
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Speaker 2: put in that were so pungent, so severe you couldn't
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Speaker 2: stand it. I mean, fecoline smells like, you know, shit,
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Speaker 2: cadaverine smells like a rotting body. So you start chiseling
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Speaker 2: away and you're smelling a rotting body. It gets to
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Speaker 2: the point you have to put a protected mask on
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Speaker 2: so that slows down the process. So the whole idea
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Speaker 2: there is you're removing you're removing an instrument of war
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Speaker 2: from the battlefield. Non lethally, and it doesn't seal people
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Speaker 2: up unless they're course in the tank. Then they have
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Speaker 2: to come out the bottom. But you can't traverse our
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Speaker 2: chillery pieces. You can't use any kind of an instrument,
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Speaker 2: any kind of a weapon of war when that kind
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Speaker 2: of stuff falls on it, because as soon as it
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Speaker 2: hits it, the micro encapsulation releases it, and it hits
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Speaker 2: the air and it swells up into this like foam
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Speaker 2: that hardens within seconds and it has to be chiseled lot.
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Speaker 1: Remember it's the vehicle unusable.
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Speaker 2: Now it's unusable. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Now, whenever you're doing these types of special access programs,
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Speaker 1: are you told or are you like briefed on the
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Speaker 1: like the reason why these deception operations are going on?
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Speaker 1: Like or are you full well aware of the reason
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Speaker 1: why they would want to remove the psychoacative, an ingredient
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Speaker 1: of the cocoa plant, or are you.
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Speaker 2: Just my mission was to cause an enter entrack cocktail war.
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Speaker 2: How do you do that? How do you get the
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Speaker 2: cartel to consume itself? And how do you you get
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Speaker 2: the other cartels to go after the other cartels? That
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Speaker 2: was that was the issue. So how do you do that? Well,
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Speaker 2: it can't be something that they know about, So it
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Speaker 2: has to be something that affects them in the place
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Speaker 2: that they're you know, benefiting from, which of course is
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Speaker 2: the sale of cocaine, the importation sale of cocaine. So
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Speaker 2: if you now create the deception that says that this
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Speaker 2: cartel is spraying that cartels millions of hectars of coca
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Speaker 2: plant with a micro encapsulated pathogen bioengineered to destroy the
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Speaker 2: psychoactive ingredient in the coca plant, and that it is
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Speaker 2: now self inoculating because it lives in the root ball
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Speaker 2: of the plant, which means you harvest and as soon
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Speaker 2: as it grows back up again, it's still attacked by
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Speaker 2: the pathogen. So and that you point, you pick that picture,
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Speaker 2: and then by the same token, you turn around and
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Speaker 2: paint the picture by chemically washing kilos of cocaine, which
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Speaker 2: you can do to remove the psychoactive ingredient, So you're
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Speaker 2: chemically altering it that way, yet you repackage it and
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Speaker 2: you introduce that back into the supply chain. So now
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Speaker 2: what happens is on the streets of Chicago or Detroit,
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Speaker 2: or Los Angeles or New York or wherever it happens
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Speaker 2: to be You've got the whole supply chain now selling
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Speaker 2: kilos that.
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Speaker 1: Are what in earth essentially fake cocaine.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so what do you think happens? Then it's not
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Speaker 2: a problem for people try to understand, well, you know,
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Speaker 2: something's wrong here, let's work it out. When that happens,
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Speaker 2: there's a destruction that goes from whatever level it is discovered,
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Speaker 2: street level or wherever, right back up the supply chain,
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Speaker 2: and it starts to consume itself all the way back
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Speaker 2: to mediying, right. And then when you have KLi thinking
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Speaker 2: that Mediine is spraying their stuff, and Mediene thinks that
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Speaker 2: Kylie is spraying their stuff, and now you start an
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Speaker 2: intra and inter cartel war, which that happened, and it
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Speaker 2: was a deception, but it happened. And then it was stopped.
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Speaker 2: Six months after the program was put on the ground,
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Speaker 2: it was stopped. And I was like, what do you
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Speaker 2: mean it's stopped? It's working, you know. And there was
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Speaker 2: a lieutenant colonel who was the EXO of this organization,
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Speaker 2: Torn Image, and he just said to me, man, you
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Speaker 2: are sometimes really thick, aren't you. I go like, I
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Speaker 2: am me. He was like, he goes, this is doing
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Speaker 2: damage and levels, you know, at levels that nobody anticipated
22:45
Speaker 2: because frankly, he goes, I didn't think you were going
22:48
Speaker 2: to be able to pull it off, and nobody else
22:50
Speaker 2: did either, but it did. So now everybody's like, what
22:53
Speaker 2: the hell you know? This is like, this is causing
22:56
Speaker 2: a lot of damage. So between you and me and
22:58
Speaker 2: your listeners, I mean, where I'm with this is I
23:00
Speaker 2: think there's a lot of people that profit from the
23:05
Speaker 2: importation and sale of illegal, you know, illicit drugs into
23:10
Speaker 2: across the borders of the United States. There are nations
23:13
Speaker 2: nation states that profit from that, and there are people
23:17
Speaker 2: within our government that profit from it, people within law
23:20
Speaker 2: enforcement that profit from it. Not across the board. I mean,
23:24
Speaker 2: it's not something you know that the DEA or anybody
23:28
Speaker 2: else turns around and goes like, yeah, how many agents
23:31
Speaker 2: do we have on the take, you know kind of thing,
23:34
Speaker 2: But it happens, and it's there right on down to
23:37
Speaker 2: local sheriffs and other stuff. So as long as there
23:41
Speaker 2: are people in our country that want to make that
23:44
Speaker 2: their favorite pastime, there's going to be those that profit
23:48
Speaker 2: from that and continue to be billionaires and billionaires. And
23:52
Speaker 2: every time you cut the head off of that snake
23:54
Speaker 2: at one level, mysteriously but not unexpectedly, it moves to
23:59
Speaker 2: an other place and gets bigger and stronger and smarter.
24:03
Speaker 1: Right, so absolutely, King King James brings up a good
24:07
Speaker 1: point here that GMO the nutrients out of every produce.
24:09
Speaker 1: It sounds sort of like what Monsanto also did with
24:12
Speaker 1: the lot of the farmers in the United States. They
24:15
Speaker 1: would infect their crops with GMO seeds and then come
24:20
Speaker 1: in and say that your crops are contaminated. You have
24:22
Speaker 1: to destroy it all, or will buy all of your
24:25
Speaker 1: crops and we'll buy your farm. It sounds very similar.
24:29
Speaker 2: It's even simpler than that. I mean, if the you know,
24:32
Speaker 2: if a guy next to you is buying Monsanto patented
24:36
Speaker 2: seeds and he is placing it in sewing it into
24:41
Speaker 2: his fields just by nature of the wind or birds,
24:45
Speaker 2: you know, if that seed gets over into your crops,
24:50
Speaker 2: into your fields and grows up, that's why this became
24:53
Speaker 2: such a nefarious ideas as far as I'm concerned. What
24:57
Speaker 2: I don't understand is why our Justice Apartment allowed Monsanto
25:04
Speaker 2: to go after farmers for that that were just basically,
25:08
Speaker 2: you know, passive, passive victims of the fact that the
25:12
Speaker 2: wind blew seeds their seeds over into their fields, and
25:18
Speaker 2: it ended up so they would go out and find
25:20
Speaker 2: their corn growing in your field, and so then they
25:23
Speaker 2: would sue you to destroy you basically and co opt
25:27
Speaker 2: your land and other things. How does our justice Department
25:30
Speaker 2: allow crap like that to happen? That's the thing that
25:33
Speaker 2: troubles me so.
25:34
Speaker 1: Well, that's sort of the same thing that NUSCLI did with.
25:37
Speaker 3: All of the natural aquifers in.
25:39
Speaker 1: The United States too. They did the almost exact same thing.
25:43
Speaker 1: I want to get back to remove you in just
25:45
Speaker 1: for a second though, David, before we get into more
25:51
Speaker 1: you know, UFO and drone activity. We can be on
25:55
Speaker 1: here as long as we need to be on. There's
25:57
Speaker 1: not a time limit or anything. But I recently watched
26:01
Speaker 1: an interview on Sean Ryan's show, and a lot of
26:07
Speaker 1: the comments were filled with you know that remove viewing
26:12
Speaker 1: is demonic in nature and that you're you're channeling the
26:16
Speaker 1: the devil, or maybe not even channeling. I think there's
26:19
Speaker 1: a two separate things, but that that it's like evil
26:22
Speaker 1: in nature. And I listened to the show and Sean
26:25
Speaker 1: Ryan with Angela Ford, which I've had on this channel
26:27
Speaker 1: multiple times, and Sean asked her if she had remote
26:32
Speaker 1: viewed the crucifixion of Jesus Christ and she wouldn't answer.
26:38
Speaker 1: So I'm just going to ask you, Dave, have you
26:42
Speaker 1: ever remote viewed the Crucifixion?
26:46
Speaker 3: No?
26:47
Speaker 2: And if you're talking, are you talking about Angela Thompson Smith.
26:50
Speaker 1: That she changed she changed to Angela Ford.
26:54
Speaker 2: Okay, she's not. She was trained in coordinate remote viewing uh,
26:59
Speaker 2: and then never did a coordinate remote viewing session. She
27:02
Speaker 2: never remote viewed after that. I want to be really
27:05
Speaker 2: clear on that. She did not remote view past that point.
27:09
Speaker 2: She What she did was trans medium work.
27:13
Speaker 1: Right automatic writing and right.
27:15
Speaker 2: Automatic writing trans medium work, you know, which was heavily
27:21
Speaker 2: or heavily sponsored by Fern Gavins, the GS fifteen who
27:27
Speaker 2: was the program manager of the organization, and Dale Graff
27:32
Speaker 2: got on board with that as well when he moved
27:35
Speaker 2: Fern Gavin out. So that's what she and Robin did.
27:41
Speaker 2: That's all they did. They never did a CRV session
27:45
Speaker 2: in support of the organization. They never did an ERV
27:48
Speaker 2: session in support of the of the unit. What they
27:52
Speaker 2: did they called it channeling. It was not channeling, it
27:56
Speaker 2: was trans medium work. So a smallly clear.
28:00
Speaker 1: Yeah. She also says that she says it is not
28:02
Speaker 1: remove viewing, that it's you know, it's automatic writing or
28:06
Speaker 1: channeling or something that. But people don't know the difference
28:08
Speaker 1: between those things, and so they just kind of lump
28:10
Speaker 1: it all into the same category.
28:13
Speaker 2: That, yeah, they do. But the answer the question of no,
28:17
Speaker 2: I never did that, Why why would I want to go?
28:20
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, I went to a church school,
28:26
Speaker 2: Brigham Mewn University, because I was I'm a high priest
28:29
Speaker 2: in the Mormon Church. I'm not active, but I am
28:32
Speaker 2: a high priest in the Mormon Church, and I was a.
28:36
Speaker 1: Way, you're not a scientologist, Dave. I thought everybody that
28:38
Speaker 1: was part of the Stargate project was a scientologist.
28:41
Speaker 2: Oh is that what somebody said? No, it was very
28:44
Speaker 2: heavily with heavy with Mormons, believe it or not. There
28:47
Speaker 2: was a lieutenant colonel who was one like like father
28:54
Speaker 2: of the Year for the army that was that before
28:58
Speaker 2: Fergun Galvin was the prog manager of the organization. I
29:02
Speaker 2: never met this lieutenant colonel, but he was the commander
29:05
Speaker 2: of the organization. He was an LDS guy Mormon. Paul
29:08
Speaker 2: Smith LDS, a Mormon. There was a girl that came
29:11
Speaker 2: in right before I left. She was just there for
29:17
Speaker 2: her training and then I was transitioning out to go
29:19
Speaker 2: to torn Image and she was LDS a Mormon, so
29:23
Speaker 2: there and there were others throughout the time of that
29:26
Speaker 2: place that had LDS, LDS officers or civilians working there.
29:32
Speaker 2: Why pure coincidence, because I had nothing else to do.
29:36
Speaker 2: I mean, I was not selected to go there because
29:38
Speaker 2: I was LDS. In fact, I doubt seriously that I
29:41
Speaker 2: ever mentioned it to anybody. It certainly didn't say it
29:44
Speaker 2: in my officer records brief or anything else, because I
29:47
Speaker 2: just I just didn't put that down there. It wasn't
29:51
Speaker 2: on my dog tags or anything like that.
29:54
Speaker 1: So yeah, that's so they've gotten that completely wrong. It's
29:58
Speaker 1: not scientologists, you know what to do with that.
30:03
Speaker 2: It's people are you know, you know, fifty percent of
30:11
Speaker 2: the population is below average intelligence. And in the United States,
30:17
Speaker 2: you know, the average intelligence is ninety is ninety eight.
30:20
Speaker 2: Because it's taking to the genders. It doesn't matter which
30:25
Speaker 2: ones above or are below, but one's ninety nine and
30:28
Speaker 2: one's ninety seven, So the average is ninety eight, and
30:31
Speaker 2: then fifty percent of the population is below that it
30:35
Speaker 2: answers the question for what you're talking about, you know,
30:39
Speaker 2: is it scientology? It's just like run to the next
30:42
Speaker 2: bright object, you know, next bright flame, you know, or
30:46
Speaker 2: people just throw crap out and then everybody believes it,
30:50
Speaker 2: you know. Or it could even be a bot that
30:53
Speaker 2: puts it out there, and then everybody converses with the
30:56
Speaker 2: bot and only a few of them figure out that
30:59
Speaker 2: they're actually conversing with a bot. No, as it goes along,
31:03
Speaker 2: it's it's like that we have such narrow attention spans now,
31:08
Speaker 2: and it's it's easy to deceive people at this point.
31:13
Speaker 1: Absolutely, I agree with that one hundred percent. That's why
31:15
Speaker 1: I'm trying to do something you know, different with with
31:19
Speaker 1: my channel and not make it all like that. But
31:22
Speaker 1: have you remove you the construction of the Pyramids?
31:26
Speaker 2: No?
31:28
Speaker 1: Have you removed have you removed viewed cern?
31:31
Speaker 2: No? But you want to know why if I can't
31:35
Speaker 2: prove it, if I can't offer some empirical evidence of
31:38
Speaker 2: what it is. In other words, there has to be empirical,
31:43
Speaker 2: evidencary feedback on it. If you can't prove it, then
31:47
Speaker 2: it could be you don't know, if it's just a
31:50
Speaker 2: figment of your imagination mixed with some raw viewing data
31:54
Speaker 2: perceptive data, or if it's raw perceptive data mixed with imagination,
31:59
Speaker 2: if it's predominantly imagination or fiction you know within your head,
32:04
Speaker 2: or is it predominantly raw p pure good viewing data.
32:08
Speaker 2: If you can't offer proof of it, then all it
32:11
Speaker 2: is is it becomes nothing more than your interpretation of
32:16
Speaker 2: your own perceptions. So if you're just taking one person
32:19
Speaker 2: and doing that, the potential for failure is extraordinarily high,
32:26
Speaker 2: regardless of whether the viewer is a good viewer, because
32:28
Speaker 2: viewers have good days and bad days. They have really
32:31
Speaker 2: great days and they have really crappy days. Like everything
32:34
Speaker 2: else in life moves in cycles, right, everything you do,
32:38
Speaker 2: from driving to work or riding your bike, I don't
32:41
Speaker 2: care brushing your teeth. You have really good days at
32:43
Speaker 2: it where you're very thorough and efficient, and then you
32:45
Speaker 2: have really crappy days at it when you're not. So
32:49
Speaker 2: it just is that way. So to do something like that,
32:53
Speaker 2: and to do it from a perspective of trying to
32:56
Speaker 2: pull qualified, quantifiable empirical data on it, you'd have to
33:04
Speaker 2: have a team of people doing it, and it would
33:07
Speaker 2: be to find a team of viewers. Like all the
33:09
Speaker 2: work we're doing for the History Channel for Beyond Skinwalker
33:13
Speaker 2: Ranch has all involved like seventy remote viewers. Seventy remote viewers,
33:18
Speaker 2: and I forget like five or six countries, fifty remote
33:22
Speaker 2: viewers in four countries. I mean, it's pulling together a
33:26
Speaker 2: huge team and going through the analysis of the data,
33:29
Speaker 2: and you know, pulling the all of the data together
33:33
Speaker 2: into aggregates and looking for correlations of data, et cetera,
33:37
Speaker 2: et cetera before it's ever presented to the television audience.
33:41
Speaker 2: So it's not just somebody setting there going well, here's
33:45
Speaker 2: what I think it is. You know, here's what I
33:47
Speaker 2: think that is. It doesn't work that way. So that's
33:51
Speaker 2: reason why I've never done those things. What would I
33:54
Speaker 2: have other than scriptural you know, scriptural references to be
33:59
Speaker 2: capable of determining whether or not the Crucifixion of Christ
34:04
Speaker 2: happened the way in which it's depicted for us, Well,
34:07
Speaker 2: what I have say I came up with something entirely different.
34:10
Speaker 2: What does that serve? Especially when I can't prove it.
34:14
Speaker 2: There's no photographs there I could look for if I
34:17
Speaker 2: was doing it on my own, it's worthless. Other than
34:20
Speaker 2: if the experiential data or the experience for me, right,
34:25
Speaker 2: whether that works for me in some way, But it
34:28
Speaker 2: certainly isn't something that you would turn around and present
34:33
Speaker 2: to the world and say, hey, I remote viewed the
34:36
Speaker 2: Crucifixion of Christ and here's what I came up with.
34:39
Speaker 2: That's just ludicrous. Stephen. Think you that anything you would
34:43
Speaker 2: come up with would carry the weight of the world,
34:46
Speaker 2: that they would want to hear what you had to
34:47
Speaker 2: say about it. So I just don't waste time on
34:50
Speaker 2: those kinds of things because it's not empirical. It's not
34:53
Speaker 2: empirical data. It's just opinions. It's just interpreted data that
34:58
Speaker 2: you get. I had one hundred viewers come up with
35:01
Speaker 2: a correlated version of it, then I would put it
35:05
Speaker 2: forward and say, Okay, I can't prove this at all,
35:11
Speaker 2: but one hundred people made these perceptions and the interpretations
35:16
Speaker 2: of these perceptions. It should be interesting even if and
35:21
Speaker 2: please don't accept it as the only real version of
35:25
Speaker 2: what that is, because if you really want to distill
35:28
Speaker 2: it down to it, I don't care whether you're a
35:30
Speaker 2: Buddhist or a Baptist, you know, or a Catholic or
35:34
Speaker 2: you know, born again, Christian or a Mormon or whatever,
35:38
Speaker 2: you're all still just accepting the interpretations of what was
35:44
Speaker 2: or what is based on somebody else telling you that.
35:48
Speaker 2: You can pray about it, but it's still your interpretation
35:51
Speaker 2: of what you think you're hearing or perceiving. That's just
35:55
Speaker 2: how I look at that world.
35:58
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think that the community of you know,
36:02
Speaker 1: these new remote viewer people, like it's like about the clicks,
36:07
Speaker 1: It's about the you know, the most fantastic thing that
36:12
Speaker 1: they could possibly come up with. Like if you typed
36:14
Speaker 1: in the YouTube right now and put girl remote views
36:19
Speaker 1: the drones in New Jersey, you'd have an entire page
36:23
Speaker 1: of people claiming that they remote view the drones in
36:25
Speaker 1: New Jersey. The same thing happened with the Mall Aliens
36:29
Speaker 1: story in Florida. Do you remember that, like a year ago,
36:32
Speaker 1: Like there's people claiming the remote view the Mall Aliens
36:35
Speaker 1: in Florida, the Miami Mall Aliens' prey.
36:39
Speaker 2: Simple rules. I can tell your listeners and if they
36:42
Speaker 2: will adhere to these rules, they will never be bamboozled
36:45
Speaker 2: by any of that crap. First rule is what remote
36:48
Speaker 2: viewing is not one hundred percent accurate? It never has
36:50
Speaker 2: been and it never will be. It varies and it
36:53
Speaker 2: fluctuates viewer, the viewer, target, the target day to day. Okay.
36:58
Speaker 2: Second rule is you never trust the results of a
37:01
Speaker 2: single remote viewer operating independently of other remote viewers. Why
37:06
Speaker 2: see rule number one okay? And rule number three is
37:10
Speaker 2: remot viewing has never been intended to be a standalone endeavor.
37:15
Speaker 2: It is always supposed to be used in consonants with
37:18
Speaker 2: other investigative methodologies, diagnostic methodologies, whatever it's going to be
37:24
Speaker 2: used for, and it has to be used in consonants
37:28
Speaker 2: with something else together. It's not just what human beings perceive,
37:33
Speaker 2: because we are subject to the failure of our own interpretations.
37:39
Speaker 2: At the same time, we are subject to the embrace
37:43
Speaker 2: and the successes and the awakenings that come from many
37:48
Speaker 2: of those interpretations. I mean, these are things that you're
37:50
Speaker 2: interpreting and sensing and feeling and perceiving outside the physical realm.
37:55
Speaker 2: That's a tremendous awakening for people. It's a gift that
37:59
Speaker 2: was given to bestowed birth, not something that is unique
38:03
Speaker 2: to me or anybody else that ever came out of
38:05
Speaker 2: the program or anybody else that ever came from any
38:07
Speaker 2: other program. I mean, you are omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent, eternal beings,
38:13
Speaker 2: and you need to embrace that fact. Now, how you
38:16
Speaker 2: choose to embrace that or if you choose do not
38:18
Speaker 2: embrace it, I don't care. But what I'm going to
38:21
Speaker 2: say to you is if you want to embrace that fact,
38:23
Speaker 2: then there are steps you can take to where you
38:25
Speaker 2: can stop believing in it and you can actually come
38:28
Speaker 2: to know it. Knowing is a far more powerful stance
38:32
Speaker 2: in this life than believing something shit. Everybody believes something right.
38:37
Speaker 2: Everybody believes that there is either something beyond the physical
38:41
Speaker 2: or there are people that believe that there is nothing
38:43
Speaker 2: beyond the physical. Neither side of that argument can prove it.
38:47
Speaker 2: People that go through REMO viewing, if they go through
38:49
Speaker 2: a good quality program that is taught based on this,
38:54
Speaker 2: on the protocols that we were all taught in, and
38:57
Speaker 2: it is backed up by empirical evice and feedback. Using
39:02
Speaker 2: like using, you do a target and there have to
39:05
Speaker 2: be quantifiable attributes relevant to that target that when you
39:09
Speaker 2: go through your session and get hand over twenty five pages,
39:12
Speaker 2: somebody can go through there along with it with ten
39:16
Speaker 2: other people or twenty other people or fifty other people
39:19
Speaker 2: and look for the correlation of the data and then
39:22
Speaker 2: match that data to quantifiable attributes. Now you have empirical
39:25
Speaker 2: data that far exceeds a twenty percent chance factor. It
39:30
Speaker 2: always does. And when that happens, and when you're part
39:33
Speaker 2: of that, then you stop believing that there's something beyond
39:36
Speaker 2: the physical and you actually recognize now that that there
39:40
Speaker 2: absolutely is something beyond the physical, and you're part of it.
39:43
Speaker 2: You always have been and you always will be. You
39:47
Speaker 2: can choose not to listen, if you choose, but if
39:50
Speaker 2: you choose to listen and explore and explore further, you can.
39:55
Speaker 2: But it's not some end all be all. It's not
39:57
Speaker 2: one hundred percent. You never trust one per going. I
40:00
Speaker 2: got the mall alien right here. I can tell you
40:03
Speaker 2: everything or is about it right, And you never trust
40:06
Speaker 2: somebody just shows up on YouTube and says there it
40:09
Speaker 2: is without any other kind of investigation, fact checking, quantifying,
40:14
Speaker 2: et cetera, et cetera. It must follow those three rules,
40:18
Speaker 2: and you can. I cannot believe how many people just
40:21
Speaker 2: can't adopt themselves to that. I'll tell you why they don't.
40:25
Speaker 2: It's because of the sensationalism that they're seeking. They're seeking
40:28
Speaker 2: you know, if they can get five thousand followers because
40:32
Speaker 2: of their YouTube video, well, then that gives them significance.
40:37
Speaker 1: Okay, gives your life meaning, Dave? What you don't want
40:40
Speaker 1: these people to have meaning in their life? Day comes home.
40:44
Speaker 1: But I guess we can blow this entire thing out
40:47
Speaker 1: of the water right now with this question. In your
40:50
Speaker 1: answer to this question, can a remote viewer just look
40:56
Speaker 1: at a thing and then like remote you like, can
40:59
Speaker 1: I look at a picture of the pyramids and then
41:03
Speaker 1: remove you with the pyramids? Because that's the way that
41:05
Speaker 1: these people think that remove you and works.
41:08
Speaker 2: No, all you're doing is looking at it and then
41:10
Speaker 2: you're closing your eyes and imagining what you think you're
41:12
Speaker 2: supposed to see. There's a protocol. The protocol tries to
41:16
Speaker 2: remove your imagination. It's think about that what I just said. Now,
41:23
Speaker 2: think about how dead in the water you would be
41:26
Speaker 2: if it was actually able to remove your imagination. It
41:30
Speaker 2: doesn't remove your imagination. It's designed to control it. That's
41:34
Speaker 2: what the protocol is designed to do. It's designed to
41:37
Speaker 2: cause you to work to detect the code and objectify.
41:41
Speaker 2: Detect the code, objectify, to detect eight dimensional waveform expressions
41:46
Speaker 2: of data to code them into four dimensional lexicon, and
41:50
Speaker 2: it expressed them in two dimension on a piece of
41:53
Speaker 2: paper by sketching and capturing verbal sensory data. Verbal sensory
41:58
Speaker 2: data as colors and textures in tens, and tastes and
42:00
Speaker 2: sounds and smells, dimensionals, energetics, intangibles, emotional data, right, aesthetic data,
42:08
Speaker 2: et cetera, et cetera, as well as being able to
42:10
Speaker 2: sketch or objectify that data. Now, if you can follow
42:14
Speaker 2: that protocol, just the just the the discipline of that
42:19
Speaker 2: dogma of the coordinate remoteling protocol is that thing that
42:23
Speaker 2: gets you to this transformative phase of going, well, crap.
42:27
Speaker 2: You know, that's more data than I had ever come
42:30
Speaker 2: up with about something anything, And I can't just make
42:35
Speaker 2: that up. You'll tell yourself. If your marginally skeptic, which
42:40
Speaker 2: I certainly was, because I said I had I hate
42:45
Speaker 2: the term psychic, I didn't name the book Psychic Warrior
42:49
Speaker 2: Saint Martin's Press did. I protested, and they went shut up.
42:53
Speaker 2: What do you know? Your You know, it's only your
42:55
Speaker 2: second book, and it's uh, it is, you know, it
43:00
Speaker 2: is just not where I was and so going into
43:04
Speaker 2: it with it's in my opinion, it had a really
43:07
Speaker 2: bad training program. And I was a I had been
43:11
Speaker 2: raised by the finest trainer in the army, which was
43:14
Speaker 2: Major General Kenneth cy Lure, and I understood military training.
43:19
Speaker 2: And I get there and there's no you know, there's
43:22
Speaker 2: no manual, there's no there's no there's no training outline,
43:27
Speaker 2: no training manual, there are no training notes, there's nothing.
43:31
Speaker 2: You're kind of like, really seriously, because where I came from,
43:35
Speaker 2: if you approached training in the military like that, some
43:38
Speaker 2: it was going to be combat flame operations and some
43:41
Speaker 2: two star general was going to burn you down to
43:43
Speaker 2: your boot tops because you didn't have a training objective
43:46
Speaker 2: for the day. But that's how it was there.
43:51
Speaker 1: Sorry, I didn't mean to bring that up. Uh you
43:54
Speaker 1: said to move this to UFOs and drones. I really
43:58
Speaker 1: didn't mean to bring that. Just wall ptomatically popped up somehow,
44:01
Speaker 1: really strange. Did you within this project, the Project Stargate,
44:07
Speaker 1: which is called sun Streak, when you were in it,
44:09
Speaker 1: were there any did they? I know I've asked you
44:13
Speaker 1: this before several times before, but it's a really popular
44:16
Speaker 1: topic right now, which is the UFOs and the drones.
44:20
Speaker 1: Were you ever tossed with, you know, remove youing area
44:23
Speaker 1: fifty one or the roswell event or how did you
44:27
Speaker 1: ever just do that on your own? Did you ever
44:29
Speaker 1: just remove you area fifty one or the roswell event.
44:33
Speaker 3: On your own?
44:33
Speaker 1: Spare time to try and figure out what was going
44:36
Speaker 1: on there?
44:36
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, let me answer the first part of the question.
44:40
Speaker 2: It would have never happened in the in the unit,
44:42
Speaker 2: because that would have that would have meant that that
44:47
Speaker 2: the unit or the program manager or the person responsible
44:50
Speaker 2: for your training, which in my case was Gabriel Pettingale primarily,
44:56
Speaker 2: mel Riley secondarily. And you know, occasionally over the years
45:03
Speaker 2: that he was there, I had interface from just mostly
45:06
Speaker 2: from a science perspective, because Ed Ed Dames was very
45:10
Speaker 2: much a physicist and could and a linguist and could
45:14
Speaker 2: answer questions physics questions that I would have and I
45:17
Speaker 2: really loved the guy at that time, so he would
45:20
Speaker 2: come up with really intelligent answers about those kinds of things.
45:23
Speaker 2: This is before he became doctor Doom. But you know,
45:27
Speaker 2: in those the unit would have never turned around and
45:32
Speaker 2: knowingly used the remote viewers to remote view classified US
45:39
Speaker 2: classified things. Certainly, we were looking at classified things that were,
45:45
Speaker 2: you know, part of the Soviet Union. Possibly China surely,
45:49
Speaker 2: but mostly the Soviet Union. What was going on in
45:52
Speaker 2: Iran or Libya or any other real or perceived enemy
45:56
Speaker 2: of the US. Anything in the interest of the national
45:59
Speaker 2: security would have been fair game and or anything that
46:04
Speaker 2: intelligence customers would have come to the DA asking. I mean,
46:09
Speaker 2: you have to understand how it all works, right, THEDIA
46:12
Speaker 2: is there. Think of it as a clearinghouse and so
46:15
Speaker 2: customers come in from various places and say we need info.
46:20
Speaker 2: We need intel on this or intel on that. It's
46:23
Speaker 2: much less specific now now it's called all source Intel.
46:28
Speaker 2: So whenever there is an Intel request for intel put in,
46:32
Speaker 2: it goes all source, meaning it goes to every Intel organization.
46:37
Speaker 2: I don't I never operated within that field because I
46:40
Speaker 2: was a special operations officer, not an intel officer. But
46:44
Speaker 2: back in the eighties it was I think more selective
46:48
Speaker 2: about who they would go to. They could go to
46:50
Speaker 2: you know, five different intel sources, or you know two,
46:55
Speaker 2: or maybe you know, at some point even one, which
46:58
Speaker 2: if I were an Intel officer and people were going
47:00
Speaker 2: to one source, I would have turned around and said well,
47:03
Speaker 2: that's not good because now you're getting one interpretation of
47:07
Speaker 2: the data. And you have to understand that people love
47:10
Speaker 2: to turn around and criticize the remote viewing effort because
47:14
Speaker 2: you know, the CIA was good at covering its tracks
47:17
Speaker 2: when you know in the nineties it turned around and said, oh, yeah,
47:20
Speaker 2: we did it, but it wasn't you know, it wasn't
47:23
Speaker 2: really that effective. Yeah, bullshit, it was extraordinarily effective. It
47:27
Speaker 2: was as effective as anything else that was going on.
47:30
Speaker 2: Because every intelligence collection methodology, none of them are one
47:36
Speaker 2: hundred percent accurate. If they were one hundred percent accurate,
47:40
Speaker 2: it's all they would use, maybe an occasional backup just
47:43
Speaker 2: to double check. But they're not one hundred percent accurate.
47:47
Speaker 2: Human intelligence is not one hundred percent accurate. Why because
47:50
Speaker 2: it's subject to interpretation by the human being reporting it.
47:54
Speaker 2: They see something, they hear something, they turn around, they
47:57
Speaker 2: put it into an intel report, they set it forward.
48:00
Speaker 2: About three other people add to it, take something away
48:03
Speaker 2: from it, interpret it. It gets to the agency, they
48:06
Speaker 2: interpret it further. So by the time it has actually
48:09
Speaker 2: looked at, considered actionable or not, there's been about ten
48:13
Speaker 2: or fifteen people that have decided what it is and
48:15
Speaker 2: what it isn't right, And that happens with everything that
48:20
Speaker 2: goes on. I don't care if it's satellite imagery. It
48:23
Speaker 2: is satellite imagery that is then interpreted by a human being, right,
48:27
Speaker 2: it's given meaning or extracted or downplayed or up upstreamed
48:32
Speaker 2: or upplayed, or whatever the case may be. It's embellished
48:35
Speaker 2: or it's denied, it just doesn't matter. I mean, you
48:38
Speaker 2: talk to the analysts that were anticipating the attacks on
48:43
Speaker 2: nine to eleven, and even the mechanism of the attacks
48:46
Speaker 2: on nine to eleven that they suspected, and their bosses
48:51
Speaker 2: shut it all down, said NAT not going to happen.
48:54
Speaker 2: But the analysts in the years after were asked those
48:58
Speaker 2: questions and they said, yes, we highly suspected that it
49:02
Speaker 2: was going to happen, but as we presented it, it
49:05
Speaker 2: was not listened to. Because why, it's all interpreted by
49:11
Speaker 2: human beings. So understand that whenever you're trying to thumb
49:14
Speaker 2: your nose at what the remote viewing effort was doing,
49:17
Speaker 2: that whether it was satellite imagery, signal intelligence, photo intelligence,
49:22
Speaker 2: human intelligence, cyber intelligence, any of those things are all
49:27
Speaker 2: interpreted by human beings and always will be thank God.
49:31
Speaker 2: But it's why it all has to be put together
49:34
Speaker 2: as an aggregate and look for correlations in the data.
49:38
Speaker 2: That's what you're trying to do in that world, and
49:40
Speaker 2: it's pretty simple if you grap your head around that idea.
49:45
Speaker 1: Well, you just mentioned China there, and China has a
49:47
Speaker 1: new stealth jet that they just unveiled. Imagine you see
49:53
Speaker 1: that Dave coming through the sky. You think, oh, man,
49:56
Speaker 1: that's an exotic technology. That's got to be extraterrestrials. That's
49:59
Speaker 1: got to be the aliens flying that craft right there, Dave,
50:03
Speaker 1: for sure. I mean it looks similar to what is
50:06
Speaker 1: reported as the TR three B supposedly the United States
50:11
Speaker 1: Air Force has in its possession as well. So what
50:16
Speaker 1: do you think about these drones that are over in
50:19
Speaker 1: New Jersey? Have you looked into this much? I know
50:22
Speaker 1: we've been really busy that you've been doing a lot
50:24
Speaker 1: of stuff and a lot of work with your projects
50:26
Speaker 1: and the things that you've been doing. But what do
50:29
Speaker 1: you think is going on there?
50:34
Speaker 2: It's just a continuation of the development of autonomous weaponry
50:40
Speaker 2: and craft that are part of the space war effort.
50:45
Speaker 2: I mean, a space war has been ongoing since December
50:48
Speaker 2: of nineteen forty five when it was first declared by
50:53
Speaker 2: then the Chief of Staff of the Army and a
50:55
Speaker 2: PhD physicist who put together a fifty year strategic plan
51:00
Speaker 2: for pushing the boundaries of warfare. This is right after
51:06
Speaker 2: the end of World War Two, and this four star
51:10
Speaker 2: general and this PhD put together this strategic plan. You
51:14
Speaker 2: have to remember there was no air force at that time,
51:16
Speaker 2: so this guy was an Army aviator. But we're still
51:19
Speaker 2: talking about piston driven airplanes. The only people that had
51:22
Speaker 2: jet airplanes and rockets were the Nazis at this particular point.
51:26
Speaker 2: We were working on it, but we didn't have them.
51:28
Speaker 2: We weren't flying him in war. So in nineteen forty five,
51:31
Speaker 2: December of they started the space war, declared it and
51:35
Speaker 2: went and formed the organization that began asking for weaponry
51:42
Speaker 2: and other kinds of things that they wanted. They asked
51:46
Speaker 2: for craft weapons, they asked for propulsion systems, they asked
51:52
Speaker 2: for let me see my notes here, They asked for materials, development,
51:59
Speaker 2: strategy for the employment espionage platforms would allow them to
52:04
Speaker 2: keep track of what Soviet Union, China and others. Although
52:09
Speaker 2: China was still at that particular point nineteen forty five
52:12
Speaker 2: were still eating dirt soup. So they weren't, you know,
52:15
Speaker 2: quite you know, they weren't quite the formidable opponent that
52:19
Speaker 2: they are now. They were forming. They asked for strategic
52:22
Speaker 2: access programs, They asked for black budgets, et cetera. And
52:27
Speaker 2: that's what they did. They wanted hypersonic craft, they wanted
52:31
Speaker 2: they wanted lifting body craft, they wanted platforms in space.
52:35
Speaker 2: They I mean, I didn't ever even know this stuff
52:38
Speaker 2: went on, and I didn't even ever start thinking about
52:41
Speaker 2: it til probably sometime around twenty twenty ten, twenty ten,
52:51
Speaker 2: two thousand and nine, twenty ten, I was getting ready
52:56
Speaker 2: to be the director of Test and Evaluation for the
52:58
Speaker 2: National Center for Medical Reiness, which was up in Ohio.
53:03
Speaker 2: And my boss was a colonel in the US Air
53:08
Speaker 2: Force Human Development Directorate, and he Colonel Hodge, and he
53:14
Speaker 2: took me to the classified Air Force Museum there at
53:19
Speaker 2: right Patterson Air Force Base. You had to have a
53:22
Speaker 2: security glance, which I did not have at the time.
53:25
Speaker 2: But you know, Doug, with some wink wink and some
53:28
Speaker 2: knew the guy at the front front door, got me
53:30
Speaker 2: in with him and we walked around. I looked at
53:32
Speaker 2: classified aircraft. I didn't know this, but I know it now.
53:37
Speaker 2: I mean, I looked right there on the floor, sitting
53:40
Speaker 2: sitting on the floor up on Jack's I looked at
53:43
Speaker 2: an unmanned aerial photo reconnaissance drone that was flown over
53:50
Speaker 2: the Soviet Union, and they flew multiples of these. I'll
53:54
Speaker 2: say it again, an unmanned photo reconnaissance drone flown over
54:01
Speaker 2: the Soviet Union in the early fifties, the nineteen fifties.
54:07
Speaker 2: So now that was part of the Space War. That's
54:11
Speaker 2: not NASA. NASA was about for all mankind, for all humanity.
54:16
Speaker 2: We're going to explore and discover. We're going to go
54:19
Speaker 2: to the Moon, we're going to go to Mars. Eventually,
54:21
Speaker 2: we're going to do all these things. But the Space
54:24
Speaker 2: War was the Department of Defense's effort to own and
54:29
Speaker 2: occupy the next dimension of war, which was going to
54:32
Speaker 2: be space. Now China is trying to get there and
54:36
Speaker 2: get there, Heavy Russia, I'm sure we'll be trying to
54:40
Speaker 2: get there and get there. Heavy Iran certainly has the
54:43
Speaker 2: money to get there and get there heavy. But we
54:46
Speaker 2: have been there, and we're going to stay there, and
54:49
Speaker 2: we're continuing to expand and develop what we're doing there.
54:52
Speaker 2: Now follow me on this logic. If nineteen forty five
54:56
Speaker 2: we started about building a war plan for fifty years
55:02
Speaker 2: to get into space and own space so that the
55:06
Speaker 2: Soviet Union didn't or that Communist China didn't, then what
55:11
Speaker 2: do you think we've been doing since then? Since nineteen
55:15
Speaker 2: forty five, how many trillions of dollars do you think
55:18
Speaker 2: we have spent on developing hypersonic craft, hypersonic weapons we
55:24
Speaker 2: are trying to put we are planning on putting stationary
55:29
Speaker 2: low orbit warehouses up there where we put medical supplies, weaponry.
55:35
Speaker 2: We've put tanks, we put ammunition, we put food, water,
55:40
Speaker 2: We put all those things up there. You want to
55:42
Speaker 2: know why, because we can send a team up there,
55:44
Speaker 2: a special ops team, we can send a platoon, we
55:47
Speaker 2: can send a company up there, take all that stuff,
55:51
Speaker 2: and with the right platform, in thirty eight minutes, we
55:54
Speaker 2: can be anywhere in the world to deploy and response
55:58
Speaker 2: to whatever we need to respond to. If we don't
56:01
Speaker 2: have that and we want to send, you know, a
56:05
Speaker 2: battalion to go somewhere to help something, right, what do
56:09
Speaker 2: you do if you fly them in a C seventeen,
56:13
Speaker 2: Then What ends up happening is you have to do
56:15
Speaker 2: in flight refueling. You have to stop off. If something
56:19
Speaker 2: goes bad with the plane, the plane's grounded, they have
56:21
Speaker 2: to repair it. Then they get back up again. You
56:23
Speaker 2: get half a force there instead of the whole force
56:26
Speaker 2: back and forth, back and forth. So it's not a
56:28
Speaker 2: one and it's not timely. It takes days to get
56:32
Speaker 2: people in places you want to take them by ship
56:36
Speaker 2: to get them there. Ships take weeks weeks to get
56:42
Speaker 2: them to certain places within the world because they can't
56:45
Speaker 2: go through the Panama Canal or the Suez Canal. So
56:49
Speaker 2: there are cape ships. You know, they're deep South Atlantic ships,
56:53
Speaker 2: is what they have to do. It takes forever to
56:55
Speaker 2: get there, and it's risky and it's time consuming. So
56:58
Speaker 2: to put those kinds of platforms in space, it's not
57:01
Speaker 2: about if they've done it. They've done it.
57:05
Speaker 1: Oh, they've absolutely done it. I mean Operation Looking Glass,
57:08
Speaker 1: which was in nineteen sixty, which was a command and
57:13
Speaker 1: control center which was operated by the Air Force, would
57:17
Speaker 1: let them have like nuclear capabilities on a command post
57:21
Speaker 1: in space. And then the program then switched to the
57:25
Speaker 1: Navy in nineteen ninety and then just switched the names
57:29
Speaker 1: no longer called Operation looking Glass, but the Navy still
57:32
Speaker 1: runs the operation today. It's still going on.
57:36
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe at A Navy aircraft killed the first Russian
57:40
Speaker 2: satellite in nineteen sixty eight, first anti SAT missile success,
57:44
Speaker 2: killing a Russian reconnaissance satellite, which we then turned around
57:48
Speaker 2: and said we only shot it was just one of
57:50
Speaker 2: our reconnaissance satellites. We were just testing. No, we weren't testing.
57:54
Speaker 2: We killed a Soviet We killed a Soviet reconnaissance satellite
57:58
Speaker 2: that was flying over installations. We did not want it
58:02
Speaker 2: to fly over, and it was taken out by an
58:04
Speaker 2: anti SAT missile, you know, asat is what they call
58:08
Speaker 2: them now. But now they're hypersonic. And we've been building
58:11
Speaker 2: I mean, people don't even realize you and it's starting
58:13
Speaker 2: in you know, in again like nineteen fifty eight, the
58:18
Speaker 2: first plans started and first patents started showing up. By
58:23
Speaker 2: the sixties, the very early sixties, we were we were
58:26
Speaker 2: we were experimenting out at Andrews Air Force Space I
58:33
Speaker 2: think Andrew was it Andrews. Yeah, yeah, Andrew's Air Force Base.
58:37
Speaker 2: We had an entire lifting body aircraft test facility there.
58:43
Speaker 2: If you don't know what lifting body is. Lifting body
58:46
Speaker 2: aircraft means aircraft with no wings, no obvious vertical stabilizers,
58:53
Speaker 2: all of the It means that the body of the aircraft,
58:56
Speaker 2: the propulsion system unique to itself, doesn't look like a
59:00
Speaker 2: hole in the back of a jet aircraft. It's coming
59:02
Speaker 2: out in a different way, but that propulsion system is
59:06
Speaker 2: creating lift on the entire body of the aircraft. The
59:09
Speaker 2: body of the aircraft becomes creates the negative pressure above it,
59:14
Speaker 2: just like a wing does, and so the aircraft flies,
59:17
Speaker 2: and then it has different control surfaces on it which
59:20
Speaker 2: are unrecognizable to a pilot that's not read onto those.
59:25
Speaker 2: So if you're out flying your F sixteen, you know,
59:30
Speaker 2: or F eighteen, and you happen to see something, it's
59:32
Speaker 2: a lifting body aircraft traveling at mock eighteen coming down
59:36
Speaker 2: out of out of space, which they do. They have
59:40
Speaker 2: some that travel at mock twenty three. Do the math
59:43
Speaker 2: on that mock twenty three, and it comes down out
59:46
Speaker 2: of space at mock twenty three, and it has to
59:49
Speaker 2: slow down or melt, but it start. It comes out
59:53
Speaker 2: of space at that speed, and then they don't waste
59:56
Speaker 2: time with them. They don't fly them around. You know,
59:59
Speaker 2: in heavily populated areas, they bring them down fast and
1:00:03
Speaker 2: drop them back into these test facilities. Whether it's Nevada,
1:00:07
Speaker 2: or whether it's out in California, or whether it's out
1:00:11
Speaker 2: in New Jersey, or whether it's out in any other
1:00:13
Speaker 2: place like that. They bring these things down, They bring
1:00:16
Speaker 2: them down fast. And there's all kinds of these things.
1:00:19
Speaker 2: And they have been doing it since we built those
1:00:22
Speaker 2: kinds of aircraft and started testing them in the early
1:00:25
Speaker 2: fifties and in the early sixties.
1:00:27
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is aircraft. This is an example of it's
1:00:31
Speaker 1: not exactly like what you're saying. These are just some really.
1:00:34
Speaker 2: Advanced artist concept of it.
1:00:36
Speaker 1: Yeah, some really advanced types of drones that don't use any.
1:00:41
Speaker 3: Like propellers or.
1:00:43
Speaker 1: Anything like that, which just reminded me of what you
1:00:47
Speaker 1: were talking about.
1:00:47
Speaker 2: There's no theres out there. You enter into a world
1:00:51
Speaker 2: where you have to start understanding you know the gray
1:00:55
Speaker 2: you know gray projects and black projects, Okay, white gray
1:00:59
Speaker 2: and black projects, and what all those mean and how
1:01:02
Speaker 2: they all stack up. What you're privy to, what you're
1:01:05
Speaker 2: not privy to. Why are you seeing gray project status?
1:01:09
Speaker 2: Why are you seeing gray project patents? And I'll tell
1:01:13
Speaker 2: you good kind of a good rule of thumb in
1:01:15
Speaker 2: that world. If it's a white project, meaning it's been manufactured,
1:01:20
Speaker 2: it's part of the war footing, it's there, and we
1:01:23
Speaker 2: are using it as part of our arsenal, then you're
1:01:27
Speaker 2: going to see it here about it. You won't know
1:01:29
Speaker 2: all of its capabilities. You never will. They'll never tell
1:01:32
Speaker 2: you everything. And it was that it's capable of doing.
1:01:34
Speaker 2: Why because they don't want the guys that they're going
1:01:37
Speaker 2: to have to fight using that to know all of
1:01:39
Speaker 2: its capabilities and weaknesses, strengths, right, et cetera. But when
1:01:44
Speaker 2: it goes gray, it means that for every black project,
1:01:48
Speaker 2: there are probably ten different companies working on a black project.
1:01:53
Speaker 2: They are patenting some of the patents. The Air Force
1:01:56
Speaker 2: will do, the Navy will do, you know, et cetera,
1:01:58
Speaker 2: et cetera. They will patent these things and it'll be there.
1:02:02
Speaker 2: And when those patents are still part of the black project,
1:02:06
Speaker 2: you're never going to see it. You're never going to
1:02:08
Speaker 2: see it. And the one that actually gets filed or
1:02:10
Speaker 2: that is in the patent office, I don't know if
1:02:12
Speaker 2: they actually if it's like the Dasser right, and they
1:02:15
Speaker 2: actually take that pattern and put it someplace where the
1:02:17
Speaker 2: general public can't see it. But when it if in
1:02:21
Speaker 2: those ten projects all working towards the same goal, as
1:02:26
Speaker 2: some of them prove incapable of reaching that goal, they
1:02:30
Speaker 2: kick them out. Now it's a great project. And if
1:02:33
Speaker 2: it's a great project, that means you're going to see
1:02:35
Speaker 2: it in popular mechanics, popular science. You're going to see
1:02:39
Speaker 2: it in something else, right, And you're going to see
1:02:41
Speaker 2: these artist concepts. You're going to see all this stuff
1:02:43
Speaker 2: about it, what it was going to be capable of doing,
1:02:45
Speaker 2: and understand it. It's going to have a mix of
1:02:47
Speaker 2: what it actually could do, and it's going to have
1:02:49
Speaker 2: a mix of disinformation. Why because it's something that was
1:02:55
Speaker 2: being prepared and developed and supported the national defense of
1:02:58
Speaker 2: the United States. And if the Chinese, Iranians and the
1:03:02
Speaker 2: Russians or at that time the Soviet unions are not
1:03:04
Speaker 2: doing that, then you're you're infantile in your thinking. Okay,
1:03:08
Speaker 2: of course they're doing that, and they're very aggressive in
1:03:12
Speaker 2: the doing of that and spending a lot of money.
1:03:14
Speaker 2: So are we doing that? Hell? Yeah, we're doing it.
1:03:17
Speaker 2: And am I upset about that?
1:03:18
Speaker 1: No?
1:03:18
Speaker 2: I wish there would be all peace on earth believe me.
1:03:21
Speaker 2: I also understand the nature of humanity, so.
1:03:25
Speaker 1: You know, yeah, we can do really wild things with drones.
1:03:29
Speaker 1: This drone right here is like a drone show, I
1:03:31
Speaker 1: believe in Japan.
1:03:33
Speaker 2: I'm going to one of those on New Year's Eve.
1:03:35
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, this is just like wild you know technology.
1:03:39
Speaker 1: I believe this is a Pokemon name Requasa, but it's
1:03:42
Speaker 1: like it's wild. The amount of things that can be
1:03:46
Speaker 1: done with drones and essentially creating like art in the sky.
1:03:50
Speaker 1: Then that becomes really confusing for people too, because they
1:03:53
Speaker 1: don't really I mean, is it a drone? Is it
1:03:56
Speaker 1: a UFOs and an unidentified craft? Is it a military craft?
1:04:00
Speaker 1: You know? And one of these actually supposedly shot down
1:04:05
Speaker 1: in New Jersey or whatever. I don't know if this
1:04:09
Speaker 1: is a real photo or not, because again, you don't
1:04:11
Speaker 1: know what's real anymore, what's not real, what's fake online?
1:04:15
Speaker 1: But a bunch of people have been sharing these, so
1:04:17
Speaker 1: just warning you right now, do not know if this
1:04:20
Speaker 1: is real. It could be artificial intelligence generated, but it's
1:04:24
Speaker 1: just interesting. This looks like a drone.
1:04:29
Speaker 2: And I'm sure it is. It could also be it
1:04:31
Speaker 2: could also be Okay, let's let's qualify what we're saying
1:04:37
Speaker 2: here when we talk about drones, one of the huge,
1:04:42
Speaker 2: the most significant push and Department of Defense is to
1:04:47
Speaker 2: create autonomous AI warcraft. Okay, whether it is robotics that
1:04:55
Speaker 2: carry heavy loads. They have an autonomous AI robotically driven
1:05:01
Speaker 2: helicopter to evacuate battlefield casualties. Now it lands, It finds
1:05:07
Speaker 2: a suitable spot nearest the evacuation point for casualties. It lands,
1:05:12
Speaker 2: You open up the clamshell, put the casualties in once
1:05:16
Speaker 2: they're stabilized, to close the clamshell back up. You know,
1:05:20
Speaker 2: I don't know, hit an app or thumbs up to
1:05:22
Speaker 2: the rto and then what happens is that craft picks
1:05:26
Speaker 2: up and flies those casualties off the battlefield. Why do
1:05:29
Speaker 2: they want to do that, because you don't have to
1:05:31
Speaker 2: have a metavac blackhawk come out in land then trying
1:05:35
Speaker 2: to be shot up by the enemy, which happened in
1:05:38
Speaker 2: the twenty years of warfare in Iraq and Afghanistan. They
1:05:42
Speaker 2: are very quickly developing warplanes, fast attack aircraft or connaissance aircraft,
1:05:49
Speaker 2: and none of it has people in it. Why it
1:05:53
Speaker 2: can move faster, fly longer if it doesn't have a
1:05:58
Speaker 2: human being in it. People can only take a maximum
1:06:02
Speaker 2: of ten g's, So it says they can fly these
1:06:05
Speaker 2: craft and have the material strength to fly them and
1:06:09
Speaker 2: pull twenty five g's or more so that you can't
1:06:13
Speaker 2: do that with a human being. They will fly like that.
1:06:17
Speaker 2: It makes it works with its you know, with other fighters,
1:06:21
Speaker 2: like a hive mind, understand and learn quickly from what
1:06:26
Speaker 2: you know the other fighters are doing, and it can
1:06:29
Speaker 2: think faster and adapt faster and learn faster than a
1:06:32
Speaker 2: human pilot can. And in all the simulation using the
1:06:36
Speaker 2: best top gun fighters that they have flyers pilots, they
1:06:41
Speaker 2: can't beat the AI. They can't. It kills them every time.
1:06:45
Speaker 1: So all of that, I don't think we can beat
1:06:46
Speaker 1: the AI just on social media.
1:06:50
Speaker 3: I think we're.
1:06:51
Speaker 1: Losing the fight against AI right now. That's why I
1:06:53
Speaker 1: said Jim that I don't know if these photos are real.
1:06:56
Speaker 1: It's right, I gave the disclaimer in the very beginning.
1:06:58
Speaker 2: No idea very easily be But remember I was talking
1:07:02
Speaker 2: to you one time. I said, one of the things
1:07:04
Speaker 2: that they're doing is you know, they'll put these they'll
1:07:07
Speaker 2: put these unmanned aircraft up and they will fly them
1:07:11
Speaker 2: over military installations and maybe occasionally they get off the
1:07:15
Speaker 2: reservation and they're flying out there and they will hit
1:07:18
Speaker 2: them with various kinds of weaponry. They'll hit them with
1:07:24
Speaker 2: high powered microwave weaponry because it kills through electromagnetic pulse.
1:07:29
Speaker 2: And they're trying to see if the aircraft or the
1:07:31
Speaker 2: drone in this young manned aircraft, whether it is whether
1:07:36
Speaker 2: it is hardened properly to withstand electromagnetic pulse or a
1:07:42
Speaker 2: laser piercing or other kinds of things that can go
1:07:45
Speaker 2: on with it. That's a constant process of fly shoot
1:07:49
Speaker 2: at tests, see what it does, What do we need
1:07:51
Speaker 2: to do to strengthen it, because they're not going to
1:07:53
Speaker 2: put hundreds of millions of dollars into a reconnaissance aircraft
1:07:59
Speaker 2: or an unmanned fast attack aircraft or interceptor or bomber
1:08:04
Speaker 2: or something else and then have the simplest of technologies
1:08:09
Speaker 2: take it out. So they're hardening these things and they're
1:08:12
Speaker 2: testing them. Are there unmanned I mean, are there unmanned
1:08:16
Speaker 2: weaponized drones? Yeah? There are, and they're not new. And
1:08:22
Speaker 2: you look at New Jersey people think like, well, you know,
1:08:26
Speaker 2: if you don't want to do the real homework and
1:08:28
Speaker 2: I just google it, I think there's like thirty seven
1:08:31
Speaker 2: military installations in New Jersey. I don't know why, but
1:08:35
Speaker 2: there are. And there's weapons testing places. There's naval weapons testing,
1:08:39
Speaker 2: air force weapons testing, There's all kinds of stuff going
1:08:43
Speaker 2: on there. I mean they're building and testing weapons there.
1:08:47
Speaker 2: It's what we do to secure the national security of
1:08:51
Speaker 2: the United States. That's why it's there. So don't every
1:08:55
Speaker 2: time you see something like that, it's such a failing
1:08:59
Speaker 2: for all of us to then jump on this bandwag
1:09:02
Speaker 2: and start ascribing it to alien technologies or assign something
1:09:05
Speaker 2: nefarious to it, like, oh, they're looking for a dirty bomb,
1:09:08
Speaker 2: says who me? Who said that?
1:09:13
Speaker 1: An insider? Dave, an insider, a top secret insider told
1:09:17
Speaker 1: everybody that it.
1:09:18
Speaker 2: Was leaked information by a top secret insider.
1:09:20
Speaker 1: Yep, yeah, that's no, that's not a joke. That's literally
1:09:24
Speaker 1: what people claim happened is that that a top secret
1:09:28
Speaker 1: insider ye contacted them and told them that the drones
1:09:31
Speaker 1: were scanning for a dirty bomb or a suitcase nuke.
1:09:34
Speaker 2: But then it's all you have to say.
1:09:38
Speaker 1: No names, I can't reveal the name or the identity
1:09:41
Speaker 1: of the insider.
1:09:43
Speaker 2: Are just purveyors of hearsay.
1:09:45
Speaker 1: But according to what you're talking about with these AI
1:09:48
Speaker 1: power drones. I mean the United States. This is an
1:09:50
Speaker 1: article that my friend Ryan Gable sent me that we
1:09:53
Speaker 1: showed on our show before. But the United States, the UK,
1:09:57
Speaker 1: and I'll show you test AI power drones forms and
1:09:59
Speaker 1: groundbreaking military exercise. I mean this is this has been
1:10:02
Speaker 1: going on for a really long time. In a significant
1:10:04
Speaker 1: development for drone technology, the military corporation cooperation of the
1:10:08
Speaker 1: United States, United UK and Australia have conducted joint exercising
1:10:12
Speaker 1: testing anomalists drones equipped with artificial intelligence capabilities. The trials,
1:10:17
Speaker 1: which took place in Fort Iron, California, mark major milestone
1:10:21
Speaker 1: and the implication of uh Lucas Rucas bucas defense packed
1:10:27
Speaker 1: between the three nations and reported by the time. So, yeah,
1:10:30
Speaker 1: they've been doing this, and China has also been doing
1:10:33
Speaker 1: it as well. I mean, China's doing the uh the
1:10:36
Speaker 1: you know new aerial cluster drones for like swarm attacks
1:10:40
Speaker 1: where there's like hundreds of him what looks like that
1:10:44
Speaker 1: the Japanese drone show that I just brought up. They're
1:10:48
Speaker 1: doing it as well.
1:10:49
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's uh is it disconcerting and alarming
1:10:56
Speaker 2: to think that you have autonomous weapons systems that when
1:11:00
Speaker 2: I say autonomous that you know, the plan is for
1:11:02
Speaker 2: them to be able to make the decision of friend
1:11:05
Speaker 2: or foe and based on the parameters given them, then
1:11:09
Speaker 2: make the decision to engage and destroy or eliminate a target. Yeah,
1:11:14
Speaker 2: it's disconcerting and it's it's downright frightening because it's removing
1:11:20
Speaker 2: a human element from that decision process, you know. But
1:11:24
Speaker 2: it's here. So if people want to get their panties
1:11:28
Speaker 2: in a lot about something, then what they need to
1:11:30
Speaker 2: be doing is pushing for you know, legislation that says,
1:11:34
Speaker 2: you know, where is this going to stop? Because if
1:11:37
Speaker 2: you can start going to Walmart and buy autonomous drones
1:11:41
Speaker 2: that are just going to fly on their own and
1:11:43
Speaker 2: decide whether or not to drop a rock on somebody,
1:11:47
Speaker 2: that's a problem. So and I'm making light of it,
1:11:50
Speaker 2: just trying to say, let's bring it down to a
1:11:52
Speaker 2: common denominator here.
1:11:53
Speaker 1: What if they were delivering your Amazon packages? What if
1:11:57
Speaker 1: they were delivering Amazon.
1:11:59
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well there you go. Uh, they're pizzas. You know,
1:12:04
Speaker 2: I know that's an that's a that's an idea floating
1:12:07
Speaker 2: around as well. Delivering pizzas it's not my pizza. I
1:12:10
Speaker 2: didn't order pepperoni. So you know, what do you do?
1:12:12
Speaker 2: Grab the drone, shoot it down or something and get
1:12:15
Speaker 2: to send it back. And we're being silly, but it's
1:12:19
Speaker 2: here and it's not gonna it's not going to go away.
1:12:23
Speaker 2: So we need to have a really good dialogue that says,
1:12:27
Speaker 2: you know, we're aware and we're watching you, meaning our
1:12:30
Speaker 2: government and other governments, we're watching you, and we want
1:12:35
Speaker 2: to have a dialogue of restrictions and we want to
1:12:38
Speaker 2: know where this is going to go and where it's
1:12:40
Speaker 2: not going to go. And I know that sounds polyannish,
1:12:43
Speaker 2: and even as it comes out of my mouth, it
1:12:45
Speaker 2: sounds polyannish to me. And I mean, but this in
1:12:48
Speaker 2: the in the most sincere way, it scares a ship
1:12:52
Speaker 2: out of me. It really does, because it's it. You know,
1:12:55
Speaker 2: it's a whole new level of stepping into and you're
1:13:00
Speaker 2: always thinking like, okay, well if we restrict it, and we,
1:13:05
Speaker 2: you know, think we're going to do the right thing
1:13:06
Speaker 2: with it, who says that the other guys are or not?
1:13:10
Speaker 2: And what if there's some rogue nation state that buys
1:13:14
Speaker 2: the technology, brings it in and you know, hacks it
1:13:18
Speaker 2: to the point that they know, jail break this thing
1:13:21
Speaker 2: that now it can think on its own, and you
1:13:23
Speaker 2: steer it, you know, to Arizona and tell it to
1:13:25
Speaker 2: start taking people out, and it does. I got you know,
1:13:29
Speaker 2: it's it's a scary new level of concern that I
1:13:34
Speaker 2: think we all need to be aware of. But let's
1:13:37
Speaker 2: not attribute it to aliens. It's this is the world
1:13:41
Speaker 2: we're creating for ourselves. And you know how long this
1:13:44
Speaker 2: craft's been going on. We've been building the Navy has
1:13:46
Speaker 2: been working towards building manless warships for the last twenty
1:13:52
Speaker 2: five years. Every destroyer built uses less people and less
1:13:58
Speaker 2: people and people. And eventually that's what's going to happen.
1:14:03
Speaker 2: You'll have aircraft carriers to destroyers to everything in between,
1:14:07
Speaker 2: and it's all going to have no people in it.
1:14:09
Speaker 2: Why people are expensive. People get killed. People have to sleep,
1:14:16
Speaker 2: Pilots have to sleep, they have to eat, they have
1:14:19
Speaker 2: to pee, right, so they have families, you have to
1:14:22
Speaker 2: take care of it. They get killed. So the whole
1:14:25
Speaker 2: idea that you can build an entire war based a
1:14:29
Speaker 2: whole you know, an army, a navy, an air force
1:14:32
Speaker 2: that doesn't require people to fly and to fight and
1:14:39
Speaker 2: the first time that we all became aware of this,
1:14:42
Speaker 2: General Norman Schwartzkof in nineteen ninety one was the first guy,
1:14:47
Speaker 2: the first four star general to step up and say,
1:14:51
Speaker 2: we are making a huge mistake. And I remember, this
1:14:54
Speaker 2: is the guy that kind of gleefully was showing people what,
1:15:00
Speaker 2: you know, what guided bombs could do. As you're seeing,
1:15:04
Speaker 2: you know, an iracky of Saddam's army, you know, fleeing
1:15:08
Speaker 2: in a vehicle across the bridge and all of a sudden, boom,
1:15:11
Speaker 2: it's vaporized by a laser guided bomb. He's showing this
1:15:15
Speaker 2: kind of stuff. But he was also talking about how
1:15:18
Speaker 2: the battle boards which used to be you know, posted
1:15:22
Speaker 2: by humans, and you could stand there as a commander
1:15:25
Speaker 2: and you could see your forces and the enemy forces.
1:15:28
Speaker 2: You could see what was happening and look at the
1:15:30
Speaker 2: casualty lists and who was heavily underfire, and where the
1:15:33
Speaker 2: artillery for the enemy was yours, et cetera, et cetera.
1:15:36
Speaker 2: Now it's all digitized. And when it's all digitized and
1:15:40
Speaker 2: you walk into a tactical operations center for a brigade, now,
1:15:45
Speaker 2: back in my day, it was like a flip charts
1:15:49
Speaker 2: and you know, flip charts and a big map would
1:15:52
Speaker 2: acetate on it. And then you know, the guys like
1:15:57
Speaker 2: Paul Smith would walk up and draw a as an
1:15:59
Speaker 2: intel officer, you know, and draw an enemy, order a
1:16:01
Speaker 2: battle on it with a grease pencil. I mean, that's
1:16:05
Speaker 2: how it was. Now it's digitized. And Norman Schwarzkov said,
1:16:09
Speaker 2: we're going the wrong direction here. We are digitizing the
1:16:12
Speaker 2: battle and battlefield. And when we digitize the battlefield and
1:16:16
Speaker 2: ultimately digitize the weapons of war, we're removing the human
1:16:20
Speaker 2: element from war. And when we remove the human element
1:16:23
Speaker 2: from war, there will no longer be the emotion and
1:16:26
Speaker 2: the recognition of the emotion, and the ethics and the
1:16:30
Speaker 2: morality and the sense of laws and the sense of
1:16:33
Speaker 2: destruction and death that is brought by war. It will
1:16:37
Speaker 2: all just be like first person shooter games, right, be
1:16:42
Speaker 2: like Grand Theft Auto, you know, kill.
1:16:45
Speaker 1: What does that world look like? That's such a that
1:16:47
Speaker 1: would be such a string.
1:16:49
Speaker 2: Heading quickly and it's freaking scary. It's really scary. But
1:16:54
Speaker 2: he said that in nineteen ninety one, you know, long
1:16:59
Speaker 2: gone now from camp. But that was very prophetic from
1:17:03
Speaker 2: him because not a lot of other officers agreed with
1:17:06
Speaker 2: that when he said it because we are making a
1:17:09
Speaker 2: big mistake here.
1:17:11
Speaker 1: I feel like this kind of ties into Ronald Reagan
1:17:15
Speaker 1: in his program in nineteen eighty three. I'm sure you're
1:17:19
Speaker 1: familiar with the h it was called the Strategic Initiative
1:17:25
Speaker 1: with the code name nickname star Wars, which was a
1:17:28
Speaker 1: mins missile defense system to defend the United States from
1:17:32
Speaker 1: nuclear ballistic missiles, which was discontinued in ninety three. Is
1:17:39
Speaker 1: this was that any in any way connected to the
1:17:42
Speaker 1: Space War?
1:17:45
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course it was, Yeah, the Strategic Defensive Initiative,
1:17:49
Speaker 2: although when he was talking about it it was purely well,
1:17:54
Speaker 2: it was beyond theoretical. I mean it had been it
1:17:58
Speaker 2: had been in development in test thing and that kind
1:18:00
Speaker 2: of stuff. When I was writing the book that, my
1:18:03
Speaker 2: first book, non Leath the Weapons Were Without Death, I
1:18:07
Speaker 2: was talking to somebody who was working now with some
1:18:13
Speaker 2: chemical additives that caused mud to turn into basically swamp lant.
1:18:22
Speaker 2: It caused when this chemical was added into mud and rain,
1:18:26
Speaker 2: like you know, applied, the ground became nontroversible by foot
1:18:31
Speaker 2: or by track vehicle or wheel wheeled vehicle. You just
1:18:34
Speaker 2: couldn't drive over it. Everything just slid. So you would
1:18:37
Speaker 2: slide sideways or backwards or downhill and you couldn't stop.
1:18:42
Speaker 2: You couldn't do anything because it just did something to
1:18:45
Speaker 2: the mud and the soil content where it became like snot,
1:18:49
Speaker 2: you know, just big brown snot and you could not
1:18:51
Speaker 2: stop on it. And he had worked on the SDI
1:18:55
Speaker 2: initiative prior to that, and he told me, he goes, yeah,
1:18:59
Speaker 2: the technology sucks right now. He goes, it's like trying
1:19:02
Speaker 2: to throw a you know, a buick up to hit
1:19:04
Speaker 2: a bullet, he said, which when he said that, I
1:19:08
Speaker 2: started laughing. I got wait a minute, you know, like
1:19:12
Speaker 2: throw a buick up to He goes, yeah, you know,
1:19:13
Speaker 2: the missile technology is not what we want it to be.
1:19:17
Speaker 2: Or you know, the space platform to shoot down with
1:19:22
Speaker 2: a laser, which at those times they were using oxygen
1:19:25
Speaker 2: iodine lasers. They hadn't perfected the stuff that they were
1:19:28
Speaker 2: going to have to be able to put into space.
1:19:30
Speaker 2: It's when they started developing the airborne laser system, which
1:19:34
Speaker 2: was basically a seven forty seven that had a huge
1:19:37
Speaker 2: chin bubble on it, and that chin buddle had bubble,
1:19:39
Speaker 2: had buzz bubble, had to coactually mounted chemical oxygen iodine lasers,
1:19:50
Speaker 2: and they had a really rapid recovery time on them.
1:19:54
Speaker 2: But their idea was to fly that thing around and
1:19:58
Speaker 2: you could hit targets on the ground, targets in the air.
1:20:01
Speaker 2: You could hit missiles coming out of space and dropping
1:20:05
Speaker 2: down to hit targets. And if you know anything about
1:20:08
Speaker 2: missile technology, they're really easy to take out because basically
1:20:15
Speaker 2: it's the fuel tanks and them then give them their rigidity.
1:20:18
Speaker 2: And so if you pierce the skin on them or
1:20:21
Speaker 2: blow on the fuel tanks, the whole thing just collapses.
1:20:26
Speaker 2: The rocket motor can drive, can drive the rest of
1:20:30
Speaker 2: the rock, the rocket motor can drive into the warhead,
1:20:33
Speaker 2: it just collapses the whole missile. So it's like a straw,
1:20:37
Speaker 2: that a real thin skin straw that gets its rigidity
1:20:41
Speaker 2: just from the pressure of the of the fuel tanks
1:20:44
Speaker 2: inside of it. That's what keeps the rocket motor from
1:20:47
Speaker 2: flying into the warhead. So when you pierce it with
1:20:50
Speaker 2: just a layerser, the whole missile just boom and explodes
1:20:54
Speaker 2: like that. So it was a great idea, but they
1:20:58
Speaker 2: they didn't, you know, and when Clinton took office, now
1:21:04
Speaker 2: you guys are going to really this is start up
1:21:07
Speaker 2: the forest fire for you. When Clinton took office, one
1:21:10
Speaker 2: of the ways that he got into office was to
1:21:13
Speaker 2: make the promise that he was going to stop funding
1:21:16
Speaker 2: the Strategic Defense Initiative, and everybody, I guess believed that,
1:21:22
Speaker 2: and of course, you know, we got him as president
1:21:24
Speaker 2: ninety three, and then when he was coming up for election,
1:21:28
Speaker 2: if you look at the timeline there something happened and
1:21:33
Speaker 2: there was a TWA flight eight hundred which got blown
1:21:37
Speaker 2: up out over you know, at sea, out of east
1:21:42
Speaker 2: of Long Island. Now, I know there have been lots
1:21:45
Speaker 2: of missile theories that have been floated around with that,
1:21:47
Speaker 2: and I will I'm going to tell you right now
1:21:50
Speaker 2: that there are military occupational areas that are out in
1:21:55
Speaker 2: the water there. If you're a pilot, which I am,
1:21:58
Speaker 2: and you look at a look at a at the
1:22:02
Speaker 2: map that you were given as a pilot, you will
1:22:04
Speaker 2: see that those operational areas are marked off. You cannot
1:22:08
Speaker 2: transit them in the water. They are the same thing
1:22:10
Speaker 2: for ce navigation as they are for air navigation. And
1:22:16
Speaker 2: you there is a there is a number to call
1:22:20
Speaker 2: and a radio frequency to call. So if you're flying
1:22:22
Speaker 2: in you can call, or if you're doing your flight planning.
1:22:25
Speaker 2: You can call and see if they're active and by
1:22:28
Speaker 2: what hours they're active, and if it's just one area
1:22:31
Speaker 2: that's active, or if you know, five of them are
1:22:33
Speaker 2: now stitched together, m are active. But whenever they're active,
1:22:37
Speaker 2: it means something's going on in that area. So that night,
1:22:42
Speaker 2: when TWA flight eight hundred, and I don't want to
1:22:44
Speaker 2: be labored, I'll give you the fast high points on it.
1:22:47
Speaker 2: TWA Flight eight hundred comes out. It goes to a
1:22:50
Speaker 2: v O R in New Jersey. It flies the outbound
1:22:54
Speaker 2: radio from New Jersey to pick up an inbound radio
1:22:57
Speaker 2: for it at Massachusetts that inbound radio and flies in
1:23:02
Speaker 2: and then it hits the outbound radio from there to
1:23:05
Speaker 2: go to the next place to make its way. At
1:23:07
Speaker 2: this I think it was going to Charles de Gaulle
1:23:09
Speaker 2: in Paris. That was where it was heading for. So
1:23:12
Speaker 2: it flies, you know, radio navigation, that's how it flies.
1:23:18
Speaker 2: And it flies in a corridor from New Jersey to Massachusetts.
1:23:24
Speaker 2: It's called flight corridor. Betty. I've personally spoken to tw
1:23:29
Speaker 2: pilots ago. Yeah, fly at all time. Flight corridor, Betty.
1:23:32
Speaker 2: Just think of it as like a tube, a safety
1:23:35
Speaker 2: tube between these two vrs and planes fly at different
1:23:39
Speaker 2: altitudes right through flight corridor, Betty. So those that are
1:23:45
Speaker 2: coming in fly at this altitude. Those are darn't fly
1:23:47
Speaker 2: at that altitude and they are in that safety channel.
1:23:51
Speaker 2: They're flying that. There was something went on with twa
1:23:54
Speaker 2: flight eight hundred that night and it was either low
1:23:57
Speaker 2: and slow or it was late. Something happen and where
1:24:00
Speaker 2: it was not where it was expected to be. There
1:24:04
Speaker 2: was a BLM. I'm I apologize, I'm recalling for memory now.
1:24:08
Speaker 2: High powered microwa a weapon that was being tested out
1:24:12
Speaker 2: of Brookhaven National Labs. They were testing it against a
1:24:16
Speaker 2: cruise missile. The cruise missile was fired from a Navy
1:24:19
Speaker 2: ship that was operating inside those military areas that were
1:24:26
Speaker 2: all closed off because they were running test or exercises there.
1:24:31
Speaker 2: There are a two Blackhawk helicopter with a seal team
1:24:34
Speaker 2: in them, not a whole team, a platoon and the
1:24:39
Speaker 2: intent was that cruise missile to fire off the decks
1:24:43
Speaker 2: of I think the USS Normandy I may be wrong
1:24:47
Speaker 2: on that, to come off of that and then to
1:24:51
Speaker 2: get to the long axis of those military areas and
1:24:54
Speaker 2: fly that long axis. And there was a satellite system,
1:24:58
Speaker 2: I mean a rate system from Brookhaven that would acquire
1:25:04
Speaker 2: and then fire the high powered microwave weapon sent a
1:25:09
Speaker 2: mass to the target that it was supposed to bring
1:25:11
Speaker 2: down with EMP. That would have then caused it to
1:25:15
Speaker 2: drop in the water. The seals would have picked it up,
1:25:19
Speaker 2: it would have been recovered floated, and then they bring
1:25:21
Speaker 2: it back onto the decks of the destroyer it was
1:25:24
Speaker 2: fired from, or the missile frigate, rather it was fired from,
1:25:27
Speaker 2: and then they would tear it apart. They tear it
1:25:29
Speaker 2: apart to find out if the hardening was sufficient to
1:25:32
Speaker 2: defeat the MP or what particular circuitry was damaged and why,
1:25:37
Speaker 2: and how can we harden it why? Because that's what
1:25:39
Speaker 2: weapons testers do. That's the business of that is doing
1:25:44
Speaker 2: that kind of thing. The problem was that there was
1:25:48
Speaker 2: a missile. People saw it come off the decks. It
1:25:50
Speaker 2: was not fired by some you know, from some terrorists
1:25:55
Speaker 2: in a rowboat somewhere. It came up an extraordinary powerful
1:26:01
Speaker 2: microwave weapon from Brookhaven acquired and fired and it hit
1:26:07
Speaker 2: not center mass on on the Tomahawk missile, at center
1:26:11
Speaker 2: mass on the aircraft. Now people will go, that's just
1:26:16
Speaker 2: that happened. Well, just some some you know some months earlier,
1:26:22
Speaker 2: while the fast attack boats, the Iranian fast attack boats
1:26:26
Speaker 2: UH were just trying to destroy tankers right, and the
1:26:31
Speaker 2: SEU trying to get into the Suez and moving around
1:26:34
Speaker 2: in that particular area. The US was over there and
1:26:37
Speaker 2: we were fighting those We were attacking those fast attack
1:26:40
Speaker 2: boats and killing them and taking them out of the water.
1:26:43
Speaker 2: And on a missile frigate there off the coast of
1:26:47
Speaker 2: around in Iraq, acquired a miss acquired an aircraft that
1:26:52
Speaker 2: it thought was you had an entire missile sell and
1:26:58
Speaker 2: a captive and an XO on a missile frigate, all
1:27:03
Speaker 2: looking at the radar screen, and they all interpreted that
1:27:06
Speaker 2: aircraft to be a fast attack aircraft imbound to attack
1:27:11
Speaker 2: their missile frigate, and they fired a rocket and they
1:27:16
Speaker 2: killed that airliner. It was an airliner filled with Iranian civilians.
1:27:22
Speaker 2: And when that happened, everybody was like, well, how did
1:27:28
Speaker 2: that happen? It's easy goes right back to what I said.
1:27:32
Speaker 2: It's human interpretation. The radar doesn't turn. Radar gives you
1:27:37
Speaker 2: certain parameters and tells you the speed and tells you
1:27:40
Speaker 2: all these other things. But the radar operator, the commanding officer,
1:27:43
Speaker 2: the executive officer, the missile officer, all those people joined
1:27:48
Speaker 2: in a misinterpretation and brought down a civilian airliner. So
1:27:52
Speaker 2: you want to ask that question, how that happens and
1:27:55
Speaker 2: then say it didn't happen at Brookhaven National Labs. It
1:27:58
Speaker 2: was identical. What they saw on the radar was what
1:28:02
Speaker 2: they thought they were supposed to see, which they thought
1:28:05
Speaker 2: was a Tomawk bissel. They couldn't tell the blip doesn't
1:28:08
Speaker 2: say this one's bigger than the other one. It just
1:28:11
Speaker 2: a blip and they took it down. So and why
1:28:17
Speaker 2: nobody say anything about it? Why was it not part
1:28:21
Speaker 2: of the national dialogue? Why was the CIA making the
1:28:26
Speaker 2: cartoonish you know, simulations of what happened? Ask yourself that,
1:28:31
Speaker 2: when have you ever before or since seen the CIA
1:28:35
Speaker 2: develop for a civilian airliner being brought down? The sequence
1:28:40
Speaker 2: of events telling the American people what actually did happen?
1:28:46
Speaker 2: Never before has it ever happened? Why did it happen?
1:28:48
Speaker 2: Then I'll tell you why it happened. Because the guy
1:28:52
Speaker 2: who got elected president was two months away from another
1:28:57
Speaker 2: election or three months away from another their election where
1:29:02
Speaker 2: he told them for the first election that he was
1:29:04
Speaker 2: no longer going to pursue the Strategic Defense initiative. That
1:29:10
Speaker 2: weapon was being developed in support of the strategic defense initiative,
1:29:15
Speaker 2: and it brought down a civilian airliner. How do you
1:29:18
Speaker 2: recover from that? You don't? You just cover it up?
1:29:22
Speaker 1: Was that was the reason why the program shut down then?
1:29:25
Speaker 2: Or I don't know that it's shut down. Anti satellite
1:29:30
Speaker 2: and anti missile technology is still out there. It's just looked.
1:29:33
Speaker 2: You know, it looks a different way now. I mean we're.
1:29:36
Speaker 1: Still rebranded it and renamed it.
1:29:38
Speaker 2: Yep. Different technology. Technology has evolved. I'm sure that there
1:29:43
Speaker 2: are still high powered microwave weapons. They're very effective for
1:29:46
Speaker 2: what they might want to use them for. But there
1:29:49
Speaker 2: are lots of other things, infra sound, you know, there's
1:29:51
Speaker 2: all kinds of stuff. Now why we live in a
1:29:54
Speaker 2: dangerous world. I wish we didn't, I wish we didn't,
1:29:58
Speaker 2: but we do.
1:30:00
Speaker 1: Now. Are you aware of any drones in.
1:30:03
Speaker 3: Or military craft that are.
1:30:06
Speaker 1: Trans medium craft that can go in and out of
1:30:10
Speaker 1: the water will.
1:30:13
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, there are a number of them, and they
1:30:17
Speaker 2: do not look like anything you have ever seen. There's
1:30:21
Speaker 2: a Navy reconnaissance craft, the aircraft that can it gets
1:30:26
Speaker 2: basically it's deployed out of a missile tube on a
1:30:29
Speaker 2: nuclear submarine. It deploys with an air blast that pushes
1:30:34
Speaker 2: it up out of the missile tube. It flies up
1:30:37
Speaker 2: on this cushion of air being pushed up. It breaks
1:30:41
Speaker 2: the surface. The jet engine fires and it deploys its short,
1:30:47
Speaker 2: stubby little wings and it's a triangle looking thing like this,
1:30:51
Speaker 2: and it has little tiny stubby wings on it, and
1:30:54
Speaker 2: it is a reconnaissance aircraft drone and so it flies
1:31:00
Speaker 2: and it has a I think like a six hundred
1:31:03
Speaker 2: mile range, and it flies off and it recawns whatever
1:31:06
Speaker 2: it's supposed to recon reconnaissance, and then it comes back.
1:31:10
Speaker 2: And when it comes back, it just folds its wings
1:31:13
Speaker 2: up and it could splash into the water. And when
1:31:15
Speaker 2: it hits the water. The last report I read about it,
1:31:19
Speaker 2: the Navy was saying, yeah, divers have to go hook
1:31:23
Speaker 2: a toe hook onto it and pull it back in
1:31:25
Speaker 2: the missile toobe. But then I can't prove it. But
1:31:29
Speaker 2: I was told by some friends in special ops that
1:31:32
Speaker 2: now it hits the water, and I mean, look, I
1:31:35
Speaker 2: have a robot that cleans my house and it goes
1:31:38
Speaker 2: right on back to its place to changes throw out
1:31:41
Speaker 2: the dirty water, put in clean water, clean its pads
1:31:45
Speaker 2: that it used for scrubbing the floor, and offload all
1:31:49
Speaker 2: the debris that it's vacuumed. So if you know, de
1:31:53
Speaker 2: bought robot from Ecovacs can do that.
1:31:56
Speaker 4: I I think that a multi billion dollar reconnaissance craft
1:32:01
Speaker 4: can't come down, splash in the water, find its way
1:32:04
Speaker 4: back to a hole in the submarine, you know, and
1:32:06
Speaker 4: back itself in there and be ready for redeployment.
1:32:09
Speaker 2: Once it's been you know, they purge the tube and
1:32:12
Speaker 2: refuel it again. So yeah, it's totally autonomous. They just
1:32:16
Speaker 2: deploy it. It shoots up out and does it. But
1:32:19
Speaker 2: if you saw it, you would swear, well, you just
1:32:22
Speaker 2: I don't care. What if you're a military pilot and
1:32:24
Speaker 2: you're not read onto that and you see it flying
1:32:27
Speaker 2: you have no idea what that is. You would absolutely
1:32:31
Speaker 2: take a picture of it and go look at this.
1:32:33
Speaker 2: You know it must be an alien. You know. They
1:32:36
Speaker 2: would say it laughingly because they know that it's probably
1:32:40
Speaker 2: you know, some black project that's in development.
1:32:45
Speaker 1: That doesn't keep him from pushing the alien and the
1:32:47
Speaker 1: extraterrestrial narrative though. They just let the public keep going
1:32:50
Speaker 1: with that. Yeah, Yeah, and that's been a problem with
1:32:53
Speaker 1: these drones too, because the government has said that. I mean,
1:32:59
Speaker 1: there's the White representative that came out and said that
1:33:01
Speaker 1: we don't know what they are, that their drones.
1:33:07
Speaker 2: It is even if they did know. I mean, first
1:33:09
Speaker 2: of all, the White House representative doesn't know that's true statement,
1:33:13
Speaker 2: and nobody's going to tell them. There's I keep saying
1:33:16
Speaker 2: this and people don't catch it. I know you do,
1:33:18
Speaker 2: but people don't get it. There is nothing in the
1:33:23
Speaker 2: Constitution of the United States, or the Bill of Rights,
1:33:26
Speaker 2: or any law that exists on any of the books
1:33:29
Speaker 2: that says that the intelligence community or the Department of
1:33:35
Speaker 2: Defense has got to keep the American public informed about
1:33:39
Speaker 2: what's going on in the development of weaponry and you know,
1:33:42
Speaker 2: or intelligence capabilities, or what we know the bad guys
1:33:45
Speaker 2: are doing, or what we don't know. It's not a requirement.
1:33:48
Speaker 2: And because it's not a requirement, never will be a requirement.
1:33:52
Speaker 2: You're never going to be told. And they don't. These
1:33:54
Speaker 2: special access programs have no obligation to tell the White
1:33:58
Speaker 2: House these things. The White House has. That's why you
1:34:02
Speaker 2: never see a president go down and step into the
1:34:04
Speaker 2: CIA and say I want to know everything you know
1:34:07
Speaker 2: about everything, because what they will say is, okay, mister President,
1:34:12
Speaker 2: you know, here's your briefing. Now I think you're lying
1:34:16
Speaker 2: to me, and I think there's more stuff. Okay, mister President,
1:34:19
Speaker 2: we will restructure the briefing and deliver it to you again,
1:34:22
Speaker 2: in which they will say exactly the same thing again.
1:34:25
Speaker 2: Why there is no precedent and there is no legal requirement.
1:34:28
Speaker 2: The Justice Department cannot go to the CIA and say
1:34:32
Speaker 2: you will tell him everything, or we're going to prosecute you,
1:34:36
Speaker 2: because that won't happen because in every case, in every instance,
1:34:41
Speaker 2: the Supreme Court of the United States has defaulted to
1:34:45
Speaker 2: in their responses to those in their decisions for every
1:34:49
Speaker 2: request ever made in the history of the United States
1:34:53
Speaker 2: by the public to say we demand that information the
1:34:57
Speaker 2: United States Supreme Court in every incident. And if you
1:35:00
Speaker 2: don't believe it, go read all the Supreme Court decisions
1:35:03
Speaker 2: that because I have that, yes I have lonely days.
1:35:07
Speaker 2: Go read all of those decisions and find out exactly
1:35:11
Speaker 2: what they say. It defaults to the national security of
1:35:15
Speaker 2: the United States, and it will say you do not
1:35:19
Speaker 2: have a need to know, and you may want to know,
1:35:23
Speaker 2: or you may feel like you have a need to know,
1:35:25
Speaker 2: or you may feel like you have a right to know,
1:35:27
Speaker 2: but none of the above is true. So you'll never know.
1:35:30
Speaker 2: They will not tell you, and why because if they
1:35:33
Speaker 2: tell you, it sets a precedent. And if they tell
1:35:36
Speaker 2: you one thing, next week, you'll come back and want
1:35:39
Speaker 2: to know two more things, and the next week after that,
1:35:41
Speaker 2: you'll want to know five more things. And pretty soon,
1:35:44
Speaker 2: if the president unfolds in that way, you'll know things
1:35:47
Speaker 2: you have absolutely no reason to know, and so will
1:35:50
Speaker 2: the real or perceived enemies of our country. And that's
1:35:53
Speaker 2: why you're not going to know ever, And everybody just
1:35:56
Speaker 2: refuses to accept that. So I'll ask the question again,
1:36:00
Speaker 2: what's been the big full disclosure on UFOs for everybody?
1:36:05
Speaker 2: I'm missing something in the newspaper or something, or something
1:36:07
Speaker 2: that something online, the big new information come out. I mean,
1:36:12
Speaker 2: everybody's been saying that's all going to happen, right, it's
1:36:15
Speaker 2: not going to happen.
1:36:17
Speaker 1: Well, do you not see something in the future that
1:36:20
Speaker 1: seems like it's going to just implode upon it? I mean,
1:36:23
Speaker 1: how long can they just keep saying that we don't
1:36:27
Speaker 1: know what it is, we don't know what's going on.
1:36:29
Speaker 1: I mean, what's what's the real endgame of that, because eventually,
1:36:34
Speaker 1: I mean, mainstream media is basically that dude, like podcasts
1:36:39
Speaker 1: and people in the alternative communities, and the alternative media
1:36:44
Speaker 1: puts up more numbers than the mainstream media does, more
1:36:48
Speaker 1: numbers in the New York Times does more numbers than
1:36:50
Speaker 1: any of these big article people. You know, how long
1:36:54
Speaker 1: can they keep, you know, brushing it off and not
1:36:58
Speaker 1: giving any answers before just completely imploses upon itself. They
1:37:01
Speaker 1: have they either have to switch tactics, they have to
1:37:04
Speaker 1: do something different, or or it's going to become a
1:37:08
Speaker 1: really big problem in the future. That's just my personal thoughts.
1:37:11
Speaker 1: I feel like it's going to become a really big
1:37:13
Speaker 1: issue that they're not going to be able to put
1:37:15
Speaker 1: the lid back on anymore.
1:37:18
Speaker 2: It's a generational thing. And you know, I was just
1:37:23
Speaker 2: having this conversation with somebody earlier today. I was like, Okay,
1:37:26
Speaker 2: look it, name one nation, name one country where the
1:37:33
Speaker 2: government of that country will stand up and expose all
1:37:37
Speaker 2: of its secrets because the people demand to know what
1:37:39
Speaker 2: those secrets are.
1:37:41
Speaker 1: No, I'm not saying to you know, expose all the
1:37:44
Speaker 1: secrets or give all the secrets or the knowledge or
1:37:46
Speaker 1: tell the public exactly what's going on. But the current
1:37:48
Speaker 1: trajectory that the way that they've been doing it is
1:37:53
Speaker 1: starting to erode. I mean we're seeing it in real time,
1:37:57
Speaker 1: like the their their cover ups and their deceptions are
1:38:00
Speaker 1: no longer working. People are starting to you know, wise
1:38:04
Speaker 1: up to that type of influence and that type of propaganda.
1:38:09
Speaker 1: They have to do something different. If they don't, then
1:38:13
Speaker 1: it's going to collapse in on them. That's just again,
1:38:17
Speaker 1: that's my personal thing, and that's not me saying and
1:38:19
Speaker 1: the things that people think that are happening. That doesn't
1:38:21
Speaker 1: even mean that what they think is happening is actually correct.
1:38:24
Speaker 1: That doesn't mean that an alternative media is correct. That
1:38:27
Speaker 1: doesn't mean that any of these these people are even correct.
1:38:30
Speaker 1: But the way that they're doing it is going to
1:38:33
Speaker 1: eventually stop working.
1:38:35
Speaker 2: Well, if that were the case, you know, it's it's
1:38:38
Speaker 2: been working for over two hundred years, and you may
1:38:43
Speaker 2: be correct that it's gonna stop working. But sorry, I
1:38:48
Speaker 2: gotta ant on my damn computer. Probably it's probably a drone.
1:38:52
Speaker 1: Ant drone ant man. You got ant man in a computer.
1:38:58
Speaker 2: That there is. I don't disagree with what you're saying,
1:39:02
Speaker 2: but there I have to ask. I have to always say, okay,
1:39:10
Speaker 2: so what is it that anybody has seen? Like, you know,
1:39:16
Speaker 2: people all think that the curtains coming down, and eventually,
1:39:19
Speaker 2: you know, we're wearing it out and we're peering through
1:39:21
Speaker 2: the holes and you're actually not and you're thinking you're
1:39:26
Speaker 2: unraveling the great mysteries of it all. But if you
1:39:28
Speaker 2: go back and read through history about things that people
1:39:33
Speaker 2: made important along the same lines, and you see what
1:39:38
Speaker 2: actually happened and rather didn't happen, you'll start to understand
1:39:43
Speaker 2: that how they see not me, how they see you,
1:39:49
Speaker 2: and what everybody is thinking is going to happen is
1:39:52
Speaker 2: they just look at it as it's a flash in
1:39:55
Speaker 2: the pan. You know, give it another five years, everybody
1:39:59
Speaker 2: that's here doing this, they'll be gone, Or another ten
1:40:02
Speaker 2: years they'll be gone. Someone will be dead. Others will
1:40:04
Speaker 2: be actually trying to make a living, you know, or
1:40:07
Speaker 2: tea you going to school, or having a family or
1:40:10
Speaker 2: doing those kinds of things. But it's there. Your attention
1:40:13
Speaker 2: spans to them are light and low and easily extinguishable,
1:40:19
Speaker 2: and they are just they have they have trillions of
1:40:23
Speaker 2: dollars to put towards you know, these programs that are
1:40:28
Speaker 2: going to be that, they can use any manner of
1:40:30
Speaker 2: disguising or putting them away, and there will only come
1:40:34
Speaker 2: a time where you actually know what it is when
1:40:36
Speaker 2: you actually see them employing it. And when they employ it,
1:40:39
Speaker 2: then they'll tell you about it, like the F one
1:40:41
Speaker 2: seventeen fighter or the B two B bomber or the
1:40:44
Speaker 2: you know, different kinds of weapons, and again you'll never
1:40:47
Speaker 2: get the full story on the capabilities of it. But
1:40:50
Speaker 2: black programs eventually become programs that are deployed, manufactured, and utilized,
1:40:56
Speaker 2: and then you hear about them and you see them.
1:40:58
Speaker 2: But when they are being developed, when they're black, they're
1:41:01
Speaker 2: not going to tell you anything. And if we're going
1:41:03
Speaker 2: back to the UFO thing or you know, aliens and
1:41:05
Speaker 2: that kind of stuff, Look, I don't have I think
1:41:08
Speaker 2: you'd have to be an absolute fool to think mathematically, logically, theoretically, realistically, experimentally,
1:41:16
Speaker 2: you know, logically that there was that we're the only
1:41:19
Speaker 2: intelligent life in this solar system, or in this galaxy
1:41:26
Speaker 2: or in the visible known universe. You'd have to be
1:41:28
Speaker 2: an absolute fool to think, you know that we're the
1:41:32
Speaker 2: only thing that you know is here, or that we
1:41:35
Speaker 2: were even first is here. So I am fully aware
1:41:38
Speaker 2: of and accept and believe and know on some level,
1:41:43
Speaker 2: although I can't empirically prove it, that there are other
1:41:46
Speaker 2: civilizations and that there are other live life forms from
1:41:50
Speaker 2: everything from single cell to very complex organisms, smarter than us,
1:41:55
Speaker 2: brighter than us, more advanced than us, as are remo viewer.
1:41:59
Speaker 2: I've seen it, but again, and I can't prove it,
1:42:01
Speaker 2: so I don't talk about it that heavily because it
1:42:04
Speaker 2: just makes me like another purveyor of hearsay, and I
1:42:07
Speaker 2: don't want to do that. So is that stuff real? Yeah,
1:42:10
Speaker 2: it's real, But I keep asking the question, you know,
1:42:14
Speaker 2: what's the benefit to us? I mean, why is everyone
1:42:18
Speaker 2: thinking about making that the primary objective is to seek
1:42:22
Speaker 2: truth in that when you're thinking about the wrong things,
1:42:26
Speaker 2: you're worried about the wrong things, look at the crap
1:42:29
Speaker 2: that's going on in the world around you, and focus
1:42:32
Speaker 2: on what you can do to make our nation better
1:42:35
Speaker 2: and stronger and more literate and more powerful in math
1:42:40
Speaker 2: and science and other things. Focus on those kinds of things.
1:42:45
Speaker 2: Build children up to understand their inherent abilities to be
1:42:49
Speaker 2: omnipotent omniscient, omnipresent, to understand eternity, to understand those kinds
1:42:54
Speaker 2: of empower them with that you're gifted with it at birth.
1:42:57
Speaker 2: Why is it not being nurtured and developed all the
1:43:00
Speaker 2: things that we could be focusing on. We're running around
1:43:02
Speaker 2: setting our hair on fire, bumping into other people to
1:43:04
Speaker 2: set them on fire, and then bumping into somebody else
1:43:07
Speaker 2: to set them on fire. About aliens and about you know,
1:43:12
Speaker 2: we want to see it, and damn you, you have
1:43:14
Speaker 2: to show.
1:43:15
Speaker 1: Us the truth government. We know you got to.
1:43:18
Speaker 2: Just because all we want to know is the truth.
1:43:20
Speaker 2: I mean, I know I'm getting animated about it because
1:43:22
Speaker 2: I just am like, God, damn you know all the
1:43:25
Speaker 2: things to get scrambling around about, and you know the
1:43:32
Speaker 2: whole idea that, oh, well, in order to trust my government,
1:43:36
Speaker 2: they have to tell me whatever I ask them to
1:43:38
Speaker 2: tell me. You're you know, you're smoking the wrong thing man,
1:43:43
Speaker 2: or whatever it is you're doing, because that's never been
1:43:45
Speaker 2: that way and it never will be that way. And
1:43:47
Speaker 2: there's not another government on this little blue planet that
1:43:52
Speaker 2: deals with things that way, not one. And if you
1:43:55
Speaker 2: can find one that whatever you as a people ask for,
1:44:00
Speaker 2: it'll turn right around and show you. And if that
1:44:02
Speaker 2: really is what you need to float your boat, then
1:44:04
Speaker 2: I would go there, you know, because then all you'd
1:44:07
Speaker 2: have to do is say, hey King so and so,
1:44:10
Speaker 2: or hey President this or something else. I mean, tell
1:44:13
Speaker 2: me where you think you might go where the national
1:44:16
Speaker 2: security of the people of that nation does not come
1:44:21
Speaker 2: first beside, you know, before your curiousness and your sense
1:44:27
Speaker 2: of entitlement that because you're curious, you should be told
1:44:31
Speaker 2: everything not going to happen. I know you all hate
1:44:35
Speaker 2: me to hear me say that, but it's not going
1:44:36
Speaker 2: to happen.
1:44:38
Speaker 1: Fireflies brings up a good point. Why are we expecting
1:44:40
Speaker 1: truthful answers from the government that they don't trust. That's
1:44:44
Speaker 1: that's a good point.
1:44:46
Speaker 2: Why don't you trust your government? I mean I trust
1:44:48
Speaker 2: the government more than I trust Amazon or Google, you
1:44:52
Speaker 2: know people, you know, Gota. You get a guy like
1:44:55
Speaker 2: Snowden comes out and does this big expose on how
1:45:00
Speaker 2: we're abusing you know, people's phone numbers and emails and
1:45:04
Speaker 2: all this stuff, which I admit powerful stuff. And he
1:45:10
Speaker 2: throws that out there and then people are walking around
1:45:12
Speaker 2: NSSA holding signs going f the NSA. Well, the NSA
1:45:17
Speaker 2: is doing it. There's nobody INESSA, in NSA or DIA
1:45:22
Speaker 2: or CIA that are profiting from your information. They're sorting
1:45:27
Speaker 2: and looking for bad people who have the intent of
1:45:31
Speaker 2: killing you or us or bunches of us. That's what
1:45:35
Speaker 2: they're looking for, so they cast a wide net. But
1:45:38
Speaker 2: it's all f NSSA, FDIA, big protesters marching around and
1:45:42
Speaker 2: doing all that stuff, which to me was like, are
1:45:45
Speaker 2: you kidding me? They're not selling your crap. Amazon is
1:45:50
Speaker 2: selling your crap. Netflix sells your crap. You know, Google
1:45:55
Speaker 2: sells everything.
1:45:56
Speaker 1: Hey, calm down on Amazon. Okay, my documentary is on Amazon, David,
1:46:02
Speaker 1: take take take that back, take back. Amazon not doing it, man.
1:46:09
Speaker 2: So if you want to, if you want to go
1:46:11
Speaker 2: flip something off, flip that off. You know, be pissed
1:46:13
Speaker 2: off about that because they sell your stuff. They're selling
1:46:17
Speaker 2: it the China and Iran and the Russia, and they're
1:46:20
Speaker 2: doing everything they can do with it. But nobody's up
1:46:23
Speaker 2: in arms with that. They just you're like, yeah, well
1:46:25
Speaker 2: that's cool. You know, it's a it's it's commercial, I guess.
1:46:30
Speaker 2: But if NSA is collecting it because they're looking for
1:46:33
Speaker 2: bad guys, then it's f the NSSA. So it's just
1:46:38
Speaker 2: crazy to me. It's like you're worrying about the wrong things.
1:46:42
Speaker 2: You're pissed off about the wrong stuff.
1:46:45
Speaker 1: Well, let's take a look at this, yes, or I
1:46:47
Speaker 1: report from the video that you sent me that basically shows.
1:46:52
Speaker 2: The rate of Let's set it up before you play it, Okay.
1:46:57
Speaker 2: So I said that in nineteen forty five December of
1:47:02
Speaker 2: that's when the space war was established, declared and the
1:47:08
Speaker 2: committee formed to start getting the funding, which the funding
1:47:13
Speaker 2: was nine originally nine billion dollars that Eisenhower set up
1:47:19
Speaker 2: to set the stage for NASA. NASA was not part
1:47:24
Speaker 2: of the space wars. As I said earlier on, NASA
1:47:27
Speaker 2: was about about really kind of a cover for space war.
1:47:31
Speaker 2: NASA was the space race, space race, space war so
1:47:36
Speaker 2: weaponry could be developed, military Department of Defense, development of
1:47:40
Speaker 2: weapons capabilities, craft, spy stations, everything. NASA was trying to
1:47:48
Speaker 2: develop something. It really couldn't figure out what it was
1:47:50
Speaker 2: going to do till Kennedy stepped in and said, what
1:47:54
Speaker 2: you're going to do is try to put a man
1:47:56
Speaker 2: on the moon in this decade, right, And he went
1:47:59
Speaker 2: before Congress and his speech before Congress was titled look
1:48:06
Speaker 2: this up in case I'm slightly off of it, but
1:48:08
Speaker 2: it was something like, you know, it was going to
1:48:11
Speaker 2: be a matter of the utmost importance in national security
1:48:17
Speaker 2: for the United States. I paraphrased that considerably, and he
1:48:20
Speaker 2: ended up getting nine billion dollars, which back in in
1:48:25
Speaker 2: nineteen sixty was a lot of money. And out of
1:48:30
Speaker 2: that nine billion, I think two were given to NASA
1:48:34
Speaker 2: and the rest was given to the United States Air
1:48:36
Speaker 2: Force and the labs that were working with US Air
1:48:39
Speaker 2: Force to start developing the space war even further. So,
1:48:43
Speaker 2: what I want you to pay attention to is this.
1:48:48
Speaker 2: This ISI has a timeline on the bottom and it starts,
1:48:56
Speaker 2: you know, but watch how the the brightening. Because what
1:49:01
Speaker 2: happens is everywhere there was a reported UFO siding, this
1:49:06
Speaker 2: organization has it show up as a light. So it
1:49:10
Speaker 2: starts to show up and brighten and brighten and brighton.
1:49:13
Speaker 2: Pay attention to where you start to see it, and
1:49:17
Speaker 2: pay attention to as the timeline moves and the space
1:49:20
Speaker 2: war moves along in its development and expansion, how many
1:49:26
Speaker 2: reported UFO and alien encounters are shown there. That's the
1:49:31
Speaker 2: setup for this.
1:49:33
Speaker 1: God. Let's take a look. I turned the sound off
1:49:39
Speaker 1: because I don't know if it's.
1:49:39
Speaker 2: Covered nineteen thirty eight, so nineteen forty five. Now as
1:49:44
Speaker 2: we start to develop craft, look at the lights forty
1:49:48
Speaker 2: seven up into the fifties, the sixties. Right now, we've
1:49:53
Speaker 2: got wingless we have lifting body aircraft, anti SAT missiles,
1:49:58
Speaker 2: we have platforms in space is reconnaissance, we have unmanned
1:50:02
Speaker 2: aerial drones as far back as the fifties, and look
1:50:07
Speaker 2: all the way up to starts and it stops at
1:50:10
Speaker 2: twenty fourteen. So the point there is that these numbers
1:50:17
Speaker 2: of reported sightings of these things coincide with the expansion
1:50:24
Speaker 2: of the space war program within the United States, which
1:50:28
Speaker 2: is all it's shown here, But it was also being
1:50:30
Speaker 2: developed by the Soviet Union. The Chinese didn't come into
1:50:34
Speaker 2: it until in the sixties when they started getting involved
1:50:40
Speaker 2: in it. But there is a direct correlation with the
1:50:45
Speaker 2: advancement of the space war program and the number of
1:50:49
Speaker 2: these sightings now not for an instance. So don't any
1:50:52
Speaker 2: of you get yourself in a wad about this. I'm
1:50:55
Speaker 2: not saying that every one of these reported sightings are
1:50:59
Speaker 2: a space war Department of Defense, you know, the vehicle
1:51:03
Speaker 2: of some kind. I'm saying, look at the correlation and
1:51:07
Speaker 2: understand it as factual, and then understand that there may
1:51:12
Speaker 2: be a percentage of these which might be real alien spacecraft.
1:51:16
Speaker 2: But we have no way of proving that, do we,
1:51:19
Speaker 2: Because I've never touched one, and I've never touched an
1:51:24
Speaker 2: alien So never touched in alien spacecraft. Touched some really
1:51:28
Speaker 2: exotic craft that were developed as part of the Space Wars,
1:51:31
Speaker 2: but never touched in an alien craft.
1:51:35
Speaker 1: Look at how the United States has lit up like
1:51:37
Speaker 1: a freaking Christmas tree in twenty fourteen. It's wild because
1:51:45
Speaker 1: where the majority.
1:51:46
Speaker 3: Of the reports all come from.
1:51:47
Speaker 1: All UFO sightings, Yeah, predominantly come from the United States.
1:51:55
Speaker 1: You see. There a few did down here in South America,
1:51:58
Speaker 1: you know, but it's predominantly all right here in the
1:52:03
Speaker 1: United States.
1:52:05
Speaker 2: You'll have people that look at that and then they'll be, yeah,
1:52:07
Speaker 2: but there were there were reportings of UFOs back in
1:52:10
Speaker 2: the sixteen hundreds. That's a moot point. What difference does
1:52:14
Speaker 2: that make. You got one historical writing, or you've got
1:52:18
Speaker 2: something on a cave, or you've got something somewhere else where.
1:52:20
Speaker 2: Somebody is saying that, oh, you know, these are interpreted
1:52:23
Speaker 2: as spacemen. You know, what is it? Chariots of the
1:52:26
Speaker 2: gods and all that kind of stuff. Really interesting stuff,
1:52:29
Speaker 2: but interpretation. I mean, obviously the pictographs look convincing, but
1:52:36
Speaker 2: this is what we're looking at right now, the development
1:52:39
Speaker 2: of the space war and the intention to occupy space
1:52:43
Speaker 2: as the next dimensional war, not to fight aliens, but
1:52:47
Speaker 2: to fight the Soviet Union, Communist China, you name it.
1:52:53
Speaker 2: And if you don't think that there are bad actors
1:52:55
Speaker 2: out there, including on some in some ways maybe US,
1:53:01
Speaker 2: you know, but I live here, so I'm gonna support it,
1:53:05
Speaker 2: you know.
1:53:08
Speaker 1: Yeah, it absolutely makes sense that the US developing this
1:53:13
Speaker 1: technology from after World War Two. Is like immediately when
1:53:18
Speaker 1: people started seeing having reports of seeing strange craft because
1:53:22
Speaker 1: one they don't know what it is. Two they're not
1:53:25
Speaker 1: a part of the military, they don't have their civilians,
1:53:27
Speaker 1: they don't have a need to know on what that
1:53:29
Speaker 1: type of craft is, and they think that it's some
1:53:33
Speaker 1: sort of alien technology. I mean, some of the first
1:53:37
Speaker 1: modern sightings was with Kenneth Arnold in Washington when you've
1:53:41
Speaker 1: see the uh, you know, craft flying over Mount Rainier
1:53:44
Speaker 1: in Washington, and he said, in those craft, the way
1:53:48
Speaker 1: that they were drawn and what they you know, kind
1:53:51
Speaker 1: of looked like was a B two stealth bomber. That's
1:53:55
Speaker 1: what they look like. What he drew looked almost identical
1:54:01
Speaker 1: to what we now know as a B two stealth bomber,
1:54:04
Speaker 1: but nobody knew what a B two stealth bomber looked
1:54:07
Speaker 1: like in nineteen forty seven.
1:54:12
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you know the mark. Here's another example,
1:54:16
Speaker 2: you know, the the Phoenix lights in what was that
1:54:23
Speaker 2: thirteen March nineteen eighty seven, right, that was you know,
1:54:30
Speaker 2: you go through the what people thought they saw, you know,
1:54:34
Speaker 2: they see this observercy of craft that they're deciding said
1:54:38
Speaker 2: was huge sixty degree carpenter square with five spherical lights.
1:54:42
Speaker 2: Well you know, actually a carpenter square is actually ninety degrees,
1:54:47
Speaker 2: but this craft was in fact sixty degrees according to reports,
1:54:51
Speaker 2: and they said that the craft was like one hundred
1:54:53
Speaker 2: to one hundred and fifty feet above them and others
1:54:57
Speaker 2: on the ground required they talked about there in Phoenix,
1:55:00
Speaker 2: so you could get up that. If you've been around Phoenix,
1:55:03
Speaker 2: there are these high rock out croppings and people could
1:55:06
Speaker 2: get up to those very quickly. And there were people
1:55:08
Speaker 2: throwing golf balls and rocks at the underside of this
1:55:11
Speaker 2: craft as it went past them. That's pretty brave in
1:55:14
Speaker 2: my opinion, if you really do think it's an alien spacecraft.
1:55:18
Speaker 1: So people were shooting fireworks at the drones in New Jersey. Yeah,
1:55:24
Speaker 1: they're shooting rockets and fireworks and shooting guns at them.
1:55:28
Speaker 2: So there was a huge deception that was put into play.
1:55:31
Speaker 2: Give the explanations given by the military over this this
1:55:35
Speaker 2: thirteen March ninety seven, I think I said A said
1:55:40
Speaker 2: ninety seven. The military said it's Operation Snowbird at David
1:55:46
Speaker 2: Motham Air Force Base. It's a training of an Air
1:55:50
Speaker 2: National Guard pilots with a ten thunderbolts flying in formation
1:55:55
Speaker 2: from the Maryland National Guard. Static lights were due to
1:55:59
Speaker 2: aircraft not having to use anti collision lights, according a
1:56:02
Speaker 2: spokesman for the f FAA, you know, the lights are
1:56:05
Speaker 2: seen at twenty two hundred hours and they were classifying
1:56:09
Speaker 2: him as lima uniform uniform, two Bravo illumination faares, flares
1:56:15
Speaker 2: that were dropped out of AC one thirties, you know,
1:56:18
Speaker 2: and then they were seen again, same kinds of lights
1:56:22
Speaker 2: were seen again six February. And what this thing was
1:56:30
Speaker 2: just so I'll tell you what it was and you
1:56:32
Speaker 2: can look this up. It's open source so you can
1:56:35
Speaker 2: actually go see it. It was Actually it's an aerospace
1:56:40
Speaker 2: orbital airship. They started working on these things in nineteen
1:56:44
Speaker 2: sixty four. There, you know they can once they go
1:56:49
Speaker 2: from the ground up into space. They look exactly like
1:56:56
Speaker 2: the craft that you're taught. You can actually pull pull
1:57:00
Speaker 2: it up because you've still got that that PowerPoint that
1:57:03
Speaker 2: I gave you.
1:57:04
Speaker 1: Do you No, you'd have to share it on your
1:57:07
Speaker 1: screen again, go to present and then uh I had
1:57:11
Speaker 1: the s R I one pull it up, share a
1:57:13
Speaker 1: screen and then share entire screen. Okay, yeah, stream horors strange.
1:57:26
Speaker 1: Sometimes don't let you drop in big files from a slideshow.
1:57:31
Speaker 1: You have to share the whole screen.
1:57:33
Speaker 2: Uh yep, I can't. I gotta find that where that
1:57:36
Speaker 2: thing is. Just give me one second. You're getting ready
1:57:40
Speaker 2: to end here or what.
1:57:42
Speaker 1: Can go as long as you need to go.
1:57:44
Speaker 2: Can you see that?
1:57:46
Speaker 3: No? Not yet?
1:57:48
Speaker 2: Okay, share of the screen.
1:57:51
Speaker 1: Share there it is?
1:57:54
Speaker 2: Okay, So this is that spacecraft and these are there's
1:57:59
Speaker 2: an actual in the bottom right there down in the
1:58:02
Speaker 2: bottom right that is an actual photograph of it in flight.
1:58:07
Speaker 2: Is the model is exactly as you see it. And
1:58:11
Speaker 2: these things are radio controlled. They go up to one
1:58:14
Speaker 2: hundred and forty thousand feet and when they are there.
1:58:18
Speaker 2: This has made this trans atmospheric ascender comes in the
1:58:23
Speaker 2: A twenty six, A thirty six, A ninety and A
1:58:27
Speaker 2: one seven five. And what the numbers refer to is
1:58:34
Speaker 2: the length of the pontoons on the aircraft. They have
1:58:38
Speaker 2: those spherical lights underneath them, and the craft at the
1:58:42
Speaker 2: sixty degrees is what the newer models look like. You're
1:58:46
Speaker 2: looking at stuff that's in the clear, meaning it's it's
1:58:50
Speaker 2: stuff that's actually releasable. That's why you're getting to see it.
1:58:58
Speaker 1: That's really interesting. That looks like some thing the I
1:59:01
Speaker 1: seen in around like ninety eight. It looked like a
1:59:05
Speaker 1: v in the sky that was hovering. That was a drone,
1:59:09
Speaker 1: right drone technology.
1:59:11
Speaker 2: Yeah they are. And it got off tether as they
1:59:15
Speaker 2: were saying it. You know, it got off. It's the
1:59:18
Speaker 2: signal got interrupted. And if you retrace the full path
1:59:23
Speaker 2: of where that that dirigible came from, it came out
1:59:28
Speaker 2: of probably came out of Area fifty one in Nevada,
1:59:31
Speaker 2: because if you track the whole sighting of it, where
1:59:34
Speaker 2: it was looked at, where it was first seen, and
1:59:37
Speaker 2: it just got away from them, and shit it happens,
1:59:40
Speaker 2: you know, it got away from them and they weren't
1:59:43
Speaker 2: able to control it anymore, and they had to try
1:59:46
Speaker 2: to get back to it again and tether it and
1:59:49
Speaker 2: pull it down and do stuff. But you can see
1:59:51
Speaker 2: these space stations that are there. That's what this thing
1:59:54
Speaker 2: is designed to take equipment up to it. These things
1:59:58
Speaker 2: are made not like normal dirigible like you would see
2:00:01
Speaker 2: flight flying around somewhere. These have special skins on them
2:00:06
Speaker 2: that for any kinds of micro meteors or small meteors
2:00:11
Speaker 2: that hit them, the skin reseals again by itself. It's
2:00:16
Speaker 2: very dynamic in that way. They it, you know, so
2:00:20
Speaker 2: it doesn't lose its gas to get it up there.
2:00:24
Speaker 2: They're working on new exotic compositions of gas to keep
2:00:28
Speaker 2: it up by just helium or hydrogen. They solar work.
2:00:31
Speaker 2: They stay up there. They stay up there forever, and
2:00:34
Speaker 2: a balloon in the vacuum of space can travel at
2:00:38
Speaker 2: unbelievable mock speeds, unbelievable mock speed. So they fire propulsion
2:00:44
Speaker 2: engines on these things and they just haul around, you know,
2:00:48
Speaker 2: so that these transcenders are designed to go down, pick
2:00:55
Speaker 2: up many materials, and go up and you know, go
2:00:59
Speaker 2: from there up to dark sky station or to eight
2:01:02
Speaker 2: multiples of dark dark sky stations and to be able
2:01:07
Speaker 2: to handle that. So that's what that is. If you
2:01:10
Speaker 2: look down at the bottom right, you're looking to get
2:01:12
Speaker 2: a side view of it, and you can see a
2:01:14
Speaker 2: human being standing next to it. To kind of give
2:01:16
Speaker 2: you an idea.
2:01:17
Speaker 1: It's a huge craft.
2:01:19
Speaker 2: Huge craft. They're platformed on the inside, so there are
2:01:23
Speaker 2: multiples of floors. They can upload equipment, and I don't
2:01:28
Speaker 2: mean like Honda generators. I mean they can upload equipment, vehicles, supplies, rations,
2:01:36
Speaker 2: that kind of stuff, and they can hover and stay
2:01:39
Speaker 2: in orbit a lot. But when you see these are
2:01:42
Speaker 2: again these are the released versions of it, which means
2:01:45
Speaker 2: they're older and they're not what's new and hot right now,
2:01:49
Speaker 2: the thing with the lights underneath it and that kind
2:01:52
Speaker 2: of stuff. That was not an alien spacecraft. Oh well,
2:01:58
Speaker 2: let's be fair. Maybe a while. But I can't prove it,
2:02:02
Speaker 2: neither can't anybody else. But when we have balloons in
2:02:05
Speaker 2: that very same area that are being made, our dirigibles
2:02:08
Speaker 2: is a correct term for them. Dirigibles that look like that,
2:02:12
Speaker 2: act like that, have a purpose to go up into
2:02:14
Speaker 2: space and then come back down again and do that.
2:02:19
Speaker 2: Then I think you're probably safer in taking that story.
2:02:25
Speaker 2: These are showing you images of. These are again, these
2:02:30
Speaker 2: are in the clear already. These are means. These are
2:02:34
Speaker 2: things that are out there that are photos of and
2:02:37
Speaker 2: they are flying these things and still working on other
2:02:42
Speaker 2: black projects they're out there. Here's one that a lot
2:02:46
Speaker 2: of people have seen out there, the Stealth Dark Star.
2:02:51
Speaker 2: That's what they called it, and that's actually what the
2:02:52
Speaker 2: agency refers to it as. It's a high altitude strategic
2:02:55
Speaker 2: reconnaissance platform, unmanned, unmanned.
2:03:00
Speaker 1: Okay, that's an unmanned It looks huge for an unmanned platform.
2:03:03
Speaker 1: Is it really that big or is the pictures just
2:03:07
Speaker 1: making a scene a lot?
2:03:09
Speaker 2: But it's noticeable in flight. People have actually photographed it
2:03:13
Speaker 2: in flight. These are unmanned platforms. These are unmanned reconnaissance
2:03:19
Speaker 2: and fighter craft okay, bombers, interceptors, fighters. Here's that navy
2:03:25
Speaker 2: craft that I told you about. There's an artist concept
2:03:30
Speaker 2: on the left, and then it's actually in flight on
2:03:32
Speaker 2: the right. Now, tell me if you saw that coming
2:03:35
Speaker 2: and you were just some Army eighty eight or flying
2:03:39
Speaker 2: a C twenty one.
2:03:41
Speaker 3: War of the World's the world?
2:03:43
Speaker 2: What would you call it? You know? Right?
2:03:45
Speaker 1: Well, I mean most people would call it an alien
2:03:48
Speaker 1: craft for sure.
2:03:49
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is just showing you the timeline of the
2:03:55
Speaker 2: space wars. Very difficult, I know for your viewers to
2:03:59
Speaker 2: see it. But go to the far left God nineteen
2:04:01
Speaker 2: forty five, the green. Everything in green has to do
2:04:04
Speaker 2: with our Department of Defense Space wars development, and you
2:04:10
Speaker 2: can see there, you know, December nineteen forty five, Army
2:04:14
Speaker 2: General Henry Arnold and doctor Theodore Van Kammen are the
2:04:19
Speaker 2: guys that set up the US Scientific Advisory Board and
2:04:23
Speaker 2: Project RAND to develop a fifty year strategic vision for
2:04:28
Speaker 2: war in space. To January, US Air Force Space Division
2:04:34
Speaker 2: forms the Western Development Division. And you just look on
2:04:38
Speaker 2: down there, right. And the first guy to propose the
2:04:42
Speaker 2: Space Force was not President Trump, president Electromp. It was
2:04:48
Speaker 2: President Ronald Reagan in nineteen eighty two. He first proposed
2:04:53
Speaker 2: the Space Force as a new DoD branch, and the
2:04:57
Speaker 2: Air Force did away with it because the why do
2:04:59
Speaker 2: you think the Air Force did away with it or
2:05:01
Speaker 2: killed it? When Reagan left and Clinton got in? What money?
2:05:08
Speaker 1: And that's their territory? Like that? Well, they will the
2:05:11
Speaker 1: space Force for a lot of years.
2:05:13
Speaker 2: That's right, their territory, as long as they could continue
2:05:17
Speaker 2: to convince the administration that they were the ones that
2:05:20
Speaker 2: should be doing it.
2:05:21
Speaker 1: The reason programs weren't even run by NASA. They were
2:05:24
Speaker 1: run by the Air Force.
2:05:26
Speaker 2: They were all run by the Air Force. They were
2:05:28
Speaker 2: not run by NASA. NASA had nothing to do with
2:05:33
Speaker 2: any of that at all, period, nothing to do with it.
2:05:37
Speaker 2: So the space race begins basically twenty February nineteen sixty two,
2:05:43
Speaker 2: that's when the space race begins, or actually, uh yeah,
2:05:48
Speaker 2: well that they get their allocation of the nine billion funds,
2:05:51
Speaker 2: and that's when they start having purpose, you know, and
2:05:55
Speaker 2: doing what they're doing. So China didn't get involved in
2:06:00
Speaker 2: until nineteen seventy. I think earlier I said nineteen sixties,
2:06:04
Speaker 2: but it was nineteen seventy when China got involved. Soviet
2:06:08
Speaker 2: Union was involved October nineteen fifty seven. As soon as
2:06:13
Speaker 2: they found out and you know, spies collected enough information,
2:06:17
Speaker 2: they realized that that's what we were doing. They jumped
2:06:21
Speaker 2: right on into it and joined the space war. And
2:06:26
Speaker 2: you know, it's pretty interesting to see the fact that
2:06:30
Speaker 2: you know, Reagan had the foresight that the reason they
2:06:34
Speaker 2: wanted to take this away from the Air Force is
2:06:36
Speaker 2: because the Air Force was not progressing in the way
2:06:39
Speaker 2: that they thought that they should be progressing. They were
2:06:42
Speaker 2: taking money that was earmarked for the space war and
2:06:46
Speaker 2: they were using it to develop bomber aircraft and fighter
2:06:50
Speaker 2: aircraft to use in conventional conventional warfare.
2:06:55
Speaker 1: And reallocating the funds of what they wanted to at
2:06:57
Speaker 1: the gatun.
2:06:58
Speaker 2: That started to piss people off, and so it was
2:07:01
Speaker 2: President Reagan who was like, Okay, we're taking it away
2:07:04
Speaker 2: from you. The Air Force was successful after Reagan left
2:07:08
Speaker 2: and convinced President Clinton to let them keep the program.
2:07:11
Speaker 2: And that had been the space the Space Force had
2:07:15
Speaker 2: been talked about prior to eighty two and after eighty two,
2:07:20
Speaker 2: and then thank you Lone Wolf seventy eight for saying that,
2:07:23
Speaker 2: that's very kind of you, and up all the way
2:07:27
Speaker 2: up until twenty August of twenty nineteen when President Trump says,
2:07:32
Speaker 2: you know, we've been talking about this for a long time.
2:07:34
Speaker 2: It's funny how every president makes it, has to make
2:07:36
Speaker 2: it to be like their idea. Yeah, So you know
2:07:41
Speaker 2: when President Trump did it, it was kind of like, yeah,
2:07:44
Speaker 2: everybody was like, oh, I guess he thought of it
2:07:46
Speaker 2: and you know, did this, but.
2:07:48
Speaker 1: I don't think anyone really took that seriously and they're like,
2:07:51
Speaker 1: what a space force. Don't we already have an air force.
2:07:54
Speaker 1: That's probably what they were thinking back when Reagan proposed
2:07:57
Speaker 1: it as well.
2:07:59
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it was in the Department of Defense
2:08:02
Speaker 2: and when within you know, all of the Budgetary Offices
2:08:05
Speaker 2: and Oversight Committee, it was really clear what the Air
2:08:08
Speaker 2: Force was doing. And they can you know, deny it
2:08:11
Speaker 2: and backpedal all they want, but it was really clear
2:08:13
Speaker 2: back in those days that all this you know, trillions
2:08:17
Speaker 2: of dollars are being shuttled into this now and we
2:08:21
Speaker 2: really don't have the space, you know, war platforms that
2:08:27
Speaker 2: we've been struggling to get because they keep shaving money
2:08:31
Speaker 2: off and spending it on other stuff. So now you're
2:08:35
Speaker 2: going to see that stuff change considerably and you're not
2:08:39
Speaker 2: going to hear anything about it. If you think that
2:08:42
Speaker 2: the Space Force is going to come up and start
2:08:44
Speaker 2: briefing people on what they're doing and their vehicle development
2:08:48
Speaker 2: and their weaponry and you know, the you know what
2:08:50
Speaker 2: the Space Force is going to be doing. Anything you're
2:08:53
Speaker 2: going to see online or anything about the Space Force
2:08:56
Speaker 2: is only going to be what they want you to
2:08:58
Speaker 2: know about, or will will allow you to know about.
2:09:01
Speaker 2: And there's so much that goes on beneath that veneer.
2:09:05
Speaker 2: That's a very thin veneer.
2:09:07
Speaker 1: I I haven't heard anything about the Space Force since
2:09:10
Speaker 1: Trump announced it. We haven't heard anyone. When was that
2:09:13
Speaker 1: like in twenty sixteen, seventeen. I think it was in
2:09:16
Speaker 1: his first year. Oh was it that late? Oh yeah,
2:09:19
Speaker 1: my bad, it got it wrong. Twenty nineteen when it
2:09:22
Speaker 1: was announced by Trump. I haven't heard. I haven't. Maybe
2:09:25
Speaker 1: I'm just out of the loop, but I haven't heard
2:09:27
Speaker 1: anything about the Space Force and what they're doing or
2:09:31
Speaker 1: what's going on. I mean except that Netflix show with
2:09:34
Speaker 1: Steve Carell called Space Force.
2:09:38
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know the Purple era. There are just
2:09:41
Speaker 2: showing in the number of UFO sidings increased exponentially. There's
2:09:45
Speaker 2: a direct correlation between the advancement of what, you know,
2:09:51
Speaker 2: what the Air Force was working on and the number
2:09:53
Speaker 2: of those kinds of sightings. Again not presenting that as
2:09:57
Speaker 2: an absolute, but it's an interesting thing to know and
2:10:01
Speaker 2: to and to understand why that number increased.
2:10:08
Speaker 1: Absolutely makes a lot of sense.
2:10:12
Speaker 2: Oh you saw that, this is uh you tell me
2:10:17
Speaker 2: when I have to stop this is you can look
2:10:19
Speaker 2: at these patents and as I said to you, these patents.
2:10:24
Speaker 2: I had one guy on a podcast I did this.
2:10:26
Speaker 2: You know, people are so funny. It's like constantly looking
2:10:30
Speaker 2: for reasons to be offended about some stuff. This guy
2:10:33
Speaker 2: comes up and goes, well, those are ship patents. In
2:10:38
Speaker 2: other words, you mean this patent would never work because
2:10:41
Speaker 2: do you have a patent? No, but those are ship patents. Okay,
2:10:45
Speaker 2: so you don't have a patent, but this is a
2:10:47
Speaker 2: ship patent. So let me explain to you. This is
2:10:49
Speaker 2: a patent that's no longer classified. So it means that, yeah,
2:10:54
Speaker 2: they figured out that it didn't work, But for every
2:10:57
Speaker 2: one of these that's there, there's probably ten or two
2:11:00
Speaker 2: many of them that are still black that they're still
2:11:02
Speaker 2: funding and working on.
2:11:03
Speaker 1: Right, that did work?
2:11:05
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know this was you know, this was a
2:11:10
Speaker 2: particular kind of propulsion that was an anti gravity right
2:11:15
Speaker 2: using a.
2:11:16
Speaker 1: Well didn't Nikola Tussla have several patents that didn't work too?
2:11:20
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course these are all patents right here. You know,
2:11:25
Speaker 2: it meant that somebody's actually thinking about it. It's being
2:11:28
Speaker 2: funded and paid for and some of these patents, if
2:11:31
Speaker 2: you'll go look at them. You can go to the
2:11:33
Speaker 2: USPS Patent Office and pull it up, I mean the
2:11:37
Speaker 2: United States Patent Office. You can you can log in
2:11:40
Speaker 2: online and pull these patents up and you can look
2:11:42
Speaker 2: for you know, exotic aircraft. You can look for things
2:11:46
Speaker 2: like this, you know, for what these are triangular spacecraft. Okay,
2:11:52
Speaker 2: so I mean I just showed you the balloons that
2:11:55
Speaker 2: we I mean, the darrigibles that we know exist. And
2:11:58
Speaker 2: this is talking about you know, anti gravity propulsion system
2:12:01
Speaker 2: in a triangular spacecraft. So you got all these different
2:12:07
Speaker 2: exotic This is just exotic propulsion systems. These are all
2:12:10
Speaker 2: patents for exotic propulsion systems. And I'll say it again.
2:12:15
Speaker 2: The fact that they're released and available for you to
2:12:17
Speaker 2: look at them should make you smile. But understand, for
2:12:23
Speaker 2: everyone that got released back into the public because it
2:12:27
Speaker 2: doesn't work for whatever reason, there's ten or twenty behind
2:12:31
Speaker 2: it that are still being funded and researched. This isn't
2:12:36
Speaker 2: just a one and done, you know, or five and done.
2:12:40
Speaker 1: And approves that the concept is there and people have
2:12:43
Speaker 1: had these ideas before, you.
2:12:45
Speaker 2: Know, Yeah, every one of these are exotic propulsion systems,
2:12:50
Speaker 2: and these are the ones that cease to be funded,
2:12:55
Speaker 2: that are out there. The patent stands, but you know,
2:13:00
Speaker 2: but there you go. They're fun to read. I mean,
2:13:03
Speaker 2: they're technical, but they're fun to read. Hey, do you
2:13:08
Speaker 2: see this little this little orb fit thing here? Paton
2:13:12
Speaker 2: came out in two thousand and eight. What do you
2:13:15
Speaker 2: think about that? You know, I can show you a
2:13:19
Speaker 2: Japanese Department of Defense video of an ORB that'll pop
2:13:25
Speaker 2: up out of a shell and follow a guy all
2:13:27
Speaker 2: over the place. And these things are skinned. They're fan driven,
2:13:33
Speaker 2: but they are skinned, and they are skinned in such
2:13:37
Speaker 2: a way they look like a round intact or because
2:13:40
Speaker 2: the skin, it's the skin coating around the shell that
2:13:43
Speaker 2: looks like these, right, that allows it to intake and
2:13:47
Speaker 2: output through the skin. And the skin can be reflective
2:13:51
Speaker 2: and it's reflective, not so it can look mysterious like
2:13:54
Speaker 2: an alien ORB, but it's reflective so that radar signatures
2:14:01
Speaker 2: scattered form. It hits a sphere and it scatters in
2:14:05
Speaker 2: different directions. It doesn't bounce back to the radar receiver,
2:14:09
Speaker 2: so they don't get a good radar read on it,
2:14:11
Speaker 2: or they don't get any radar. It's invisible to radar.
2:14:15
Speaker 2: That's the intent behind it, like that.
2:14:17
Speaker 1: Which looks almost identical to the types of video footage
2:14:23
Speaker 1: from New Jersey and the these orbs like that, it
2:14:26
Speaker 1: looks almost identical.
2:14:30
Speaker 2: Yeah, plasmas for spacecraft propulsion. There's UK patents here, you know,
2:14:37
Speaker 2: it's all there, folks, nothing, nothing you can't see or
2:14:42
Speaker 2: read about and get an idea for. There's another spear,
2:14:46
Speaker 2: you know, yeah, using you know, magnetics to create these
2:14:54
Speaker 2: things that can fly like that again for everyone you
2:14:57
Speaker 2: see here, there's ten there's still being worked on. Here's
2:15:03
Speaker 2: anti gravity stuff that's out here, anti gravity propulsion systems.
2:15:08
Speaker 2: Again technical, but you read them and you go, wow,
2:15:13
Speaker 2: I wonder how many billions it took for us to
2:15:16
Speaker 2: decide that this one didn't have an application. You know,
2:15:20
Speaker 2: it didn't actually work. But tell me that a lot
2:15:25
Speaker 2: of brilliant minds didn't spend some time creating these right.
2:15:29
Speaker 1: Oh, they absolutely absolutely did. I mean, ID and have
2:15:32
Speaker 1: no idea what they're talking about. But I could definitely
2:15:35
Speaker 1: see where a lot of people put a lot of time,
2:15:38
Speaker 1: energy and effort in they're creating these patterns.
2:15:42
Speaker 2: And a lot of money. Some of these patents. You'll
2:15:44
Speaker 2: look at them, and they are owned by the Navy
2:15:46
Speaker 2: or the Air Force. Some of them are even owned
2:15:49
Speaker 2: by the Army, the older ones. A lot of the
2:15:51
Speaker 2: older ones are owned by the army. And I only
2:15:53
Speaker 2: look for newer patents, so like twenty twenty all the
2:15:57
Speaker 2: way back to like it's like eighty nine ninety one,
2:16:02
Speaker 2: stuff like that. So I mean we can go on
2:16:06
Speaker 2: with this and these are just the ones that are
2:16:08
Speaker 2: in the clear. Now.
2:16:10
Speaker 1: Well, I want to show you the video of the
2:16:13
Speaker 1: ORB that was supposedly they got footage of it in
2:16:19
Speaker 1: New Jersey, and you tell me what it is. What
2:16:22
Speaker 1: do you think that if it's one of these types of.
2:16:26
Speaker 2: I have to hit stop, share here or not here
2:16:29
Speaker 2: it is?
2:16:35
Speaker 1: What does this look like to you? Does it look
2:16:37
Speaker 1: like one of those orbs that you were just mentioning.
2:16:40
Speaker 2: Uh, I'd have to do I'd have to do that.
2:16:44
Speaker 2: Pull it in. Let me see if I can. Let
2:16:47
Speaker 2: me show you. Let's do a like you stop that,
2:16:50
Speaker 2: let me pull in another one for you to see. Okay, Son,
2:16:58
Speaker 2: there's again, I'm a video file. Can you see that
2:17:07
Speaker 2: or what I'm pulling in yet? Can you see that?
2:17:09
Speaker 1: In Japan's Defense Ministry? Oh wow? Is this done by AI.
2:17:29
Speaker 5: Yeah, and there are skins that are classified. The makeup
2:17:37
Speaker 5: of those skins that go around though or it does not,
2:17:40
Speaker 5: it does not go like that.
2:17:42
Speaker 2: And they carry cameras, they carry you know, they can
2:17:46
Speaker 2: carry weaponry on them, you know, light scale lasers and
2:17:49
Speaker 2: other kinds of stuff. They can blind, they can you know,
2:17:53
Speaker 2: they can puncture, you know, they can do all that
2:17:57
Speaker 2: kind of stuff they can.
2:17:58
Speaker 1: You know, that reminds me of It reminds me of.
2:18:00
Speaker 3: Those those Star Wars round drone.
2:18:04
Speaker 1: Things, you know what I'm talking about on the Star Wars,
2:18:07
Speaker 1: the black drones that would shoot shoot at people. That's
2:18:11
Speaker 1: what it reminds me of. Yeah, that's wild.
2:18:22
Speaker 2: Yeah.
2:18:22
Speaker 5: And when you see the you know, the more when
2:18:26
Speaker 5: you see them covered with the anti radar coverings and
2:18:31
Speaker 5: other stuff that go on them, that's when you really
2:18:34
Speaker 5: get fooled about what it is. Now, what you were
2:18:37
Speaker 5: looking at and the thing you were producing, I have
2:18:39
Speaker 5: no idea what that is. That could be an artifact
2:18:41
Speaker 5: on a lens, That could be something somebody created and
2:18:44
Speaker 5: put out there. It could be an atmospheric condition, It
2:18:49
Speaker 5: could be a portal, It could be a lot of
2:18:52
Speaker 5: different things.
2:18:53
Speaker 2: And I would want to see it. You know in person,
2:18:57
Speaker 2: it looks a lot like it could just be two
2:19:01
Speaker 2: strong votes would be atmospherics. In an atmospheric you get
2:19:06
Speaker 2: certain kinds of temperature gradients and other stuff that cause
2:19:11
Speaker 2: high concentrations or dissipated temperature gradients, moisture gradients and other
2:19:18
Speaker 2: things that cause ambient light to reflect like that. Or
2:19:22
Speaker 2: it could be a portal. And if it's a portal,
2:19:25
Speaker 2: then it's like an opening to another dimension. And I
2:19:29
Speaker 2: have also seen those, so I've seen them at daylight,
2:19:33
Speaker 2: and I've seen him at night at night. If you
2:19:36
Speaker 2: were looking at starlight behind that thing, it would bend
2:19:39
Speaker 2: the starlight. So I don't know. It could be something
2:19:43
Speaker 2: like that.
2:19:45
Speaker 1: Where did you see a portal to another dimension?
2:19:47
Speaker 2: I've seen portals in a bunch of different places.
2:19:51
Speaker 1: Remote viewing them or like actually seen them with your.
2:19:54
Speaker 2: Person, with mel Riley and Ed Dames and Chococanyon as one.
2:20:00
Speaker 2: I want to tell that whole story because it'll takes
2:20:01
Speaker 2: me an hour to tell it, but you know we
2:20:04
Speaker 2: can come back and I can do it again at
2:20:06
Speaker 2: some other time.
2:20:07
Speaker 1: But yeah, let's do portal story sometimes here soon. I've
2:20:12
Speaker 1: never heard you talk about that. I don't think you've
2:20:14
Speaker 1: ever brought it up on you here before.
2:20:16
Speaker 2: There's always a reason why ancient civilizations picked the places
2:20:22
Speaker 2: where they try it, where they decided to drop anchor
2:20:24
Speaker 2: and expand there's a reason that they picked those places.
2:20:30
Speaker 2: And we can talk more about that maybe in the
2:20:32
Speaker 2: next show.
2:20:33
Speaker 1: Absolutely, But since we're on UFOs here, I want to
2:20:35
Speaker 1: bring up this because you were showing the boomerang craft.
2:20:40
Speaker 1: We'll see if I actually have it on this computer.
2:20:42
Speaker 1: I might not have it, but I filmed something in
2:20:47
Speaker 1: the backyard when I lived in Colorado. Oh yeah, I
2:20:50
Speaker 1: heard it is. This was on military grade night vision goggless.
2:20:55
Speaker 1: I was filming this and you see this boomer it's
2:20:59
Speaker 1: maybe call for you to see, but yeah, there's a
2:21:03
Speaker 1: looks like some kind of boomerang just flying through the sky.
2:21:06
Speaker 1: And I was seeing it through the night vision goggles
2:21:09
Speaker 1: and I was telling everybody that was around me. I
2:21:12
Speaker 1: was like, there's some kind of weird flying V craft
2:21:15
Speaker 1: that I'm capturing right now on these infrared night vision goggles.
2:21:19
Speaker 1: And I tried to follow it for as long as
2:21:21
Speaker 1: I possibly could. But that's what that.
2:21:24
Speaker 3: Flying v.
2:21:27
Speaker 1: Looked like to me, was something similar to this.
2:21:32
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, they don't. It is a true
2:21:34
Speaker 2: statement that they don't. You know, if they are truly
2:21:37
Speaker 2: reconstance aircraft or they are something beyond the altitude that
2:21:41
Speaker 2: they're at and you know what the mission happens to be,
2:21:47
Speaker 2: they don't have to use anti collision lights. They the
2:21:52
Speaker 2: FAA is accurate in that, but it requires really special
2:21:57
Speaker 2: circumstances for that to happen. If they're flying within and
2:22:00
Speaker 2: you know, within certain altitudes, they can't do it because
2:22:04
Speaker 2: they have to be aware of If they're out over
2:22:07
Speaker 2: a military installation, then there's a notice to airmen no
2:22:11
Speaker 2: TAM it's called that goes out to every other pilot
2:22:15
Speaker 2: that military base that says, you know, be aware that
2:22:20
Speaker 2: Task Force one sixty will be flying ranger missions in
2:22:24
Speaker 2: this particular vicinity and their flight path will be this
2:22:27
Speaker 2: and they will not have any collision lights on. Yeah.
2:22:30
Speaker 1: That was another interesting thing because I was seeing it
2:22:32
Speaker 1: through the night vision goggles. It was recording, and I
2:22:36
Speaker 1: told the people. There was like three or four people
2:22:38
Speaker 1: standing beside of me, and I said that I'm seeing
2:22:40
Speaker 1: something through the night vision goggles, and I was like,
2:22:43
Speaker 1: try and look up in the sky and see if
2:22:45
Speaker 1: you can see it. Too, and they like looked up
2:22:48
Speaker 1: there with their you know, their naked eyes and they
2:22:51
Speaker 1: couldn't see anything. So it was only captured on the
2:22:54
Speaker 1: what sure is a giant tree that was right in
2:22:57
Speaker 1: front of them, so it might have you know, blurred
2:22:59
Speaker 1: their vision as well, but they couldn't see it with
2:23:01
Speaker 1: their naked eye. It only appeared on the infrared goggles. Yeah,
2:23:09
Speaker 1: but that's real footage, just one hundred percent of real
2:23:12
Speaker 1: footage that was taken by me. Then, I think on
2:23:16
Speaker 1: the show someone in the chat remembered that I showed
2:23:19
Speaker 1: that while a while back and reminded me of it.
2:23:26
Speaker 2: That's an interesting thing. It looks like it could have
2:23:29
Speaker 2: been that dark star or something else. But you know,
2:23:32
Speaker 2: we're just speculating. I mean, right, I can't. It's just
2:23:35
Speaker 2: it's an unusual shape for the craft to be up there,
2:23:38
Speaker 2: but it's obviously really high, and it does not have
2:23:41
Speaker 2: collision lights on it, because if you had mvgs on there,
2:23:45
Speaker 2: you would have been able to see. If somebody was
2:23:48
Speaker 2: lighting a cigarette, you'd have seen it, you know, if
2:23:52
Speaker 2: they were lighting it in the cockpit, you'd have seen it.
2:23:55
Speaker 1: Well, David, thanks so much for coming on. Really appreciate
2:23:58
Speaker 1: your time this evening. I'm always an amazing conversation with you,
2:24:02
Speaker 1: and I want to bring you back on to talk
2:24:03
Speaker 1: about these portals. And I wasn't even aware of the portals.
2:24:06
Speaker 1: Let's do that again sometime soon. But can you let
2:24:09
Speaker 1: people know where to find you. I got the link
2:24:10
Speaker 1: to your website in the description of the video.
2:24:12
Speaker 2: Yeah, go to Wwwdavidmoorhouse dot org, dot com dot org.
2:24:19
Speaker 2: That's the official site. The other one is not mine.
2:24:23
Speaker 2: Uh And you can also just email us at Team
2:24:27
Speaker 2: T E A M at Davidmoorhouse dot org.
2:24:32
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