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Channum Tating: Fake Lawyer for a Decade & Phoenix Wright · Multiple Nerdgasm

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  [Music] welcome to multiple
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  nerdgasm your destination for all things
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  nerdy well can I just quickly jump in and just ask and I can't believe we
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  didn't talk about this in person last night Matt right you watch a [ __ ]
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  James Bond trailer I did I did what do you think uh I'm very excited I got
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  [ __ ] Goosebumps watching that thing yeah yeah are they making another James
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  Bond they are of course they are yeah yeah they're going to keep
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  making them think we can does this one have gadgets again H
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  probably no it doesn't look like it this looks pretty serious oh I mean we but
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  even um Skyfall had a couple of Gadgets in it yeah I think means overthe top car
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  that turns into a submarine there's been none of that lately they haven't had those for a
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  while what I'm hoping for when they bring that back I'll be back I'm oh you
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  like that stuff I used to love it well there's a little bit of that returning
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  to skyall for sure yeah what I'm hoping for with this one is like the
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  seriousness of Quantum of Solace but with an actually good story yeah yeah
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  man Quantum of Solace had some amazing action sequences but it was just over
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  the place that's all it had didn't make any sense and it was just like it just
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  pummeled you with with just I recently went back and watched all three not back
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  to back but over a weekend and it is by far the
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  weakest because Christina Royale was just such a return to
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  form like amazing movie amazing best Bond since golden eye yeah and I would
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  agree and then Quantum of Solace was like oh [ __ ] was this just a fluke but
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  then Skyfall came in it was like no no no no no this is good yeah really
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  good and I'm hoping this is good too Spectre yeah it looks good it's got It's
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  very um mysterious and yeah you know looks like there's a lot of Espionage
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  and it looks like it's intelligent I'm hoping that's yes that's exactly right
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  thee it looks like a real spy movie yeah yeah yeah exactly like actually spying
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  as opposed to just running and shooting yeah yeah see cassina Royale was a bit
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  less of that but it was very it was about cards and and things and so it was
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  it was a bit interesting I found it interesting anyway we watched it
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  recently cuz Jenna hadn't seen it and she didn't like it she um yeah she
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  doesn't liked uh she just doesn't like Daniel Craig's Bond and she just didn't
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  find it very interesting oh he's my favorite Bond yeah I think he's great um
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  he's my absolute favorite yeah and she also she once tried to watch Quantum of
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  Solace and said that it was not interesting and I said well that's fair
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  it is that's fair yeah I don't dislike it uh we've talked about this before I I
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  still thought it was all right yeah but I agree that it was weak and I agree
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  that the action sequences in it are just unparalleled but you need more oh AB
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  absolutely yeah I agree um from Bond at least there there are certain types of
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  movie that I'm okay to just be you know have you know it's Transformers yeah of
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  course you know a Transformers movie giant robots fighting that's what it is
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  yeah exactly right and I think we've talked about on this podcast even before
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  but Quantum of Solace was the answer to the question what happens to the James
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  Bond franchise the year after the born identity franchise begins yeah because
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  Quantum of Solace was BAS basically just like a a born movie more than a born
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  movie shaky cameras fast editing yeah I'm not yeah I was never that into them
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  I mean love the first couple yeah I can appreciate the action sequences but I
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  just don't didn't find them that I couldn't tell you what the story line
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  was I've seen there's like a bunch of them is I've seen all four of the
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  there's four with Damon and I've seen the new one as well actually now I think
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  about it with Hawkeye from Avengers yeah couldn't tell you what
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  I couldn't tell you what it was about though because like I said I remember
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  the action sequences but I don't remember the story because it just yeah
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  sure was there one was have was it one of them in there yeah the story is that
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  he has Amnesia he was their top top uh
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  agent and um he's they tried to dispose of him and his memory was a wa AAS he's
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  AAS his memory was erased but he survived and now he's basically their
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  top agent becomes their worst nightmare as he's to what happened the truth yeah okay the
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  second one has a fight between a guy with a knife and a guy with a rolled up
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  magazine yeah I remember that yeah [ __ ] intense it's so
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  good yeah I remember that stuff but I don't like I said I just don't remember
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  what what else happened um
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  yeah so um yeah so I'm very excited about Spectre very excited cuz I yeah
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  Bon's great I love I just love Bond films Soh all of them except some of the P
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  broen ones are a bit painful well yeah and look dare I say it even some of the
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  original ones yeah but they've got a Nostalgia thing far too long though they like two
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  and a half hour films yeah that's definitely true and even if you watch a
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  really classic one like gold finger yeah there's a lot wrong with it you know it
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  there is but it's it's got particularly like the connory and the Roger Moore
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  ones and actually the laser be one as well I really like a lot of people don't
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  like that one laser is great yeah I love that one um he but they're all very
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  um uh they've got Nostalgia that yeah
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  there's a chance kind of yeah like I I know you're right but I don't care you
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  know what I mean like I still still great that's fair yeah whereas a new one
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  doesn't get that pass you know like Skyfall was a bit long if I'm
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  honest yeah sure like it's but in the same way that the others were but it was
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  also good enough that didn't matter but like the Pierce broen ones don't get
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  that because they weren't good either you know correct yeah I
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  think but yeah the Roger Moore ones in particular had some goofy
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  [ __ ] like the boat chase in Venice there's a Venice where he's in the boat
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  and it's all it's still a bit goofy but run out across crocodile oh yeah I like it being
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  goofy of course you do what's your favorite Bond film
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  Luke um oh I can't even think of names of any of them oh what happens what's your
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  favorite Jaws jaws was in it oh okay there's a couple of them
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  yeah yeah you may even be talking about a Timothy doton movie what's that wasn't
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  there wasn't Jaws in one of the Timothy Dalton ones Maybe I didn't mind
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  him I mean I I haven't I haven't watched him since I was younger but I don't
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  remember thinking that they were any worse any he gets a bad rap too oh you
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  know Daniel Craig one where it went sort of that little bit
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  serious what's that I didn't like it when it started to go serious with the Daniel
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  Craig I don't I don't like him as Bond
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  oh okay yeah a bit too real H all right
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  like Bond I don't see he's a real person I know he's
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  not well actually you make a uh you make a valid point because um there
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  was a bit of controversy during the year
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  when they suggested that they might be getting a black actor to play James Bond
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  h and a lot of people said James Bond is
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  white and a lot of other people said James Bond is not a real person so
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  should be able to be whoever the [ __ ]
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  they cast out like so yeah yeah I would
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  agree yeah um they were looking at Idris elow of course they were I was going to
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  say is it ID of course they were he is
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  now um confirmed as um in Star Trek 3
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  yeah he's uh probably a Klingon in um Star Trek 3 he's going to be the big
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  villain yeah yeah I love he's great yeah he is good
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  yeah you you didn't even watch the wire no I just liked him in Prometheus and uh
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  yeah and uh Thor he's in the Thor films and uh him out for that
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  yeah yeah that was actually that was controversial as well back at the time
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  um having a a black person movie play play yeah play a Nordic God everyone was
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  like you can't do that and every was like shut up of course you can
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  and you know what yeah you know what he was [ __ ] great in it so cuz you know
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  what it's all made up yeah because who [ __ ]
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  cares yeah who does care I I'm so glad I'm not one of those people that gets
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  [ __ ] irritated that a black person is going to play James Bond yeah yeah I
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  know and it's like it's similarly similarly when they announced that
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  Ghostbusters remake was going to be all girls I I don't care that they were
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  going to be all girls I'm just worried that it's going to be stupid because
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  they're doing it for the wrong reasons yeah yeah that's right when they were
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  talking about making a Ghostbusters 3 I was excited to tell the truth yeah but
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  when they were having the original cast come back yeah well apparently they still are
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  there's going to be two Ghostbusters movies did you know that no there's
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  going to be the girl one and another one and and then the chenam T chenam tating
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  one huh who's Shannon Tatum shanning shanning tat I can't whatever his name
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  no no I'll watch it watch any movie with shenon tating in it chenam tating yeah
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  go to Chen ting.com uh for all your chanim tting news can we have a jingle
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  for chanim tting news chanting [ __ ] is Chan I don't know who
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  chanting isting who the [ __ ] is Chan I don't know
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  who chating is [Music]
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  shanting
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  but they're going to reboot the series yeah which of course don't need to
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  reboot it with a female cast just have here's a new Ghostbusters movie
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  yeah yeah don't reboot it with the same story again just with new female
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  characters yeah it's the same movie I don't know
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  anyway it's now a franchise it's going to be movies coming out everywhere it's
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  going to be I just hate M I hate Melissa McCarthy and I just won't watch anything
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  she's in well you know exactly how she's going to play that character yeah she's that
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  annoying large comedian
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  right okay I don't think I watched unny fat chick somebody made of this is the
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  other thing somebody it might been Ben cucher actually put up a post about um
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  here are some clips that will demonstrate why this new Ghostbusters is
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  going to be great and it was a clip of each of the girls and I watched them and
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  they were all to me terrible y yeah it's just not I don't like any of them and
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  just to be clear is she in it yeah she is I like her okay well just to be clear
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  I don't dislike like female comedians and I don't you know anything like that
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  I just don't think these people were funny you know I think Sarah Silverman
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  is [ __ ] hilarious put her in it oh i' watch her Ghostbusters that's for sure
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  yeah sorry that sounded way more sexual than I meant to I I enjoy that's fine
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  that's fine you know you go there yeah definitely of course I mean I wouldn't
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  she's Jewish but that was a joke that was a bit of
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  flashback humor all right yeah come on flashback to a time it was okay to make
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  those jok flashback I just looked up at my posters and and it popped into my head
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  um so yeah uh oh yeah and the clip of Kristen wig that was on there was a very
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  unfunny thing with um it was like some kind of dance
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  routine from some film I don't know I wouldn't have seen it I don't watch
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  Comedy Movies yeah I don't know I just watched it and I was like well that's
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  that's just not very funny but I Kristen wig was in something before she was very
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  famous that I I know her for but I don't remember what it is and I'm just going
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  to look it up now because um I know two movies off the top of my head there's
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  what you been in um
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  mcba okay I haven't seen that um Brides
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  bades is it um I know of that that's how I saw that she'd become famous and I
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  went oh that's girl from something that I've seen okay um scroll right down
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  Arrested Development she's in yep oh no that's in the new series yeah yeah okay
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  that makes sense I remember that she plays the mother yes oh yes y y she 30
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  Rock but I never saw um she's in Forgetting Sarah
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  Marshall it could be that could be that ah Flight of the concour Bravo she was
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  bra br anyway moving on we can move on to uh
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  why women shouldn't be lawyers well that's it's not quite what
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  the article is about um this is more about if you're going to become a loyer
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  go to school and become one apparently a woman has um apparently a
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  woman come on whoa whoa whoa being
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  demonized today Jesus a woman used forg documents to pose as
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  an estate lawyer for a decade and she actually made partner at her small firm
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  before somebody discovered that she was
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  not a lawyer wow she um apparently was
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  so good that everyone was baffled they said that um she's an incredibly
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  competent person and she worked very diligently and was devoted to the people
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  she served um so there are things about the charges we don't agree with but the
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  fact remains she never went to law school and she's not um passed the bar
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  exam she faked her bar exam results uh and basically yeah she's been illegally
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  practicing law for um I don't know however many years she worked at that
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  place for 10 years but before that she worked at other
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  places so um if you want to be a lawyer you know don't bother going to law
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  school just uh say that you did yeah just say that you
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  did so that's one of those professions where cuz I know this happens a lot
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  people people fake their um their uh what do you call it um
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  credentials credentials yeah um but this is one that seemed I don't know I would
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  I wouldn't really think about it because it's like well now you actually have to
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  have to have passed you know your examine they um we do want our lawyers
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  to know as much about the law as possible yeah exactly I mean well on the
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  other hand she was doing a good job so yeah that's true was probably lucky
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  though that she wasn't doing sort of criminal law or anything like that
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  because well she probably would have come under a lot more scrutiny in that
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  case well I know that they can go back and then they cuz everyone would be able
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  to appeal any sentence they had right I
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  wasn't represented by a lawyer yeah good point so hopefully it's not the same for
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  anything that she did while working here where people go back and go no I
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  wouldn't my estate relook that or whatever it is yeah
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  yeah well I I just thought this was very interesting
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  yeah um Luke if you were going to pose
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  as a lawyer um how would you avoid being
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  discovered while the others are listen it's
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  Crim sorry I have to dance to that every time it comes on that's fine that's fine
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  she really enjoyable um how would I not get caught yeah what do you think her
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  fatal mistake was in the end I mean we don't really know how they discovered
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  her but uh how would you have taken measures to make sure that you'd never be
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  discovered um I'd probably get like i' PR out the fake certificate on really
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  nice paper right yeah so it looked legit yep Y and hang that up in the wall she
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  probably forgot that right so just on standard A4 but she's put it in a frame
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  so she's like no one's going to notice that but someone yeah someone's had a
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  bit of close look hold on that's not real so you want to put a lot of effort
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  into that when hanging it up yeah we got to get the little holographic um seal
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  little water mark yeah and also you don't want sort of a cheap frame it' be
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  something that if you really got one you'd be proud of it you want to show it
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  off go look I went here I got this I'm pass it's all good I'll look after you
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  something to go with that expensive mahogany desk that lawyers sit behind
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  yeah in films No my only friend who's a lawyer has a mahogany desk yeah well
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  there you go fact fact man I'd love to have a mahogany desk one day a you'll get
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  there thanks man all right well that I mean that kind of
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  leads me into something I wanted to talk about um which is Phoenix right oh yeah
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  you guys you're practically a lawyer now just by playing that right yeah yeah you
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  guys familiar with Phoenix right I can't say I've played it Matt I know what it
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  is okay uh it's a it's a game for the for the DS I I purchased it on my 3DS
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  you can get all three uh the the first three games uh on the
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  3DS um and basically the premise is that you're a defense attorney uh fresh out
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  of Law School uh and so the very first case is is literally your first case uh
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  and and they're all murders all all the cases so far are are murders so it's
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  quite you know you get thrown your first case out of law school is a murder yes
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  that's right not only that it's one of your friends when your friends is
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  accused of murder and then you end up uh defending look there's a the reason one
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  of the things I want to talk about is there's quite a few things in this that
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  makes me wonder whether they really know the law uh
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  because um the main thing that I take issue with is that in the game you're
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  basically required to prove that the person is innocent otherwise they're
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  just going to find him guilty because because that's what happens and
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  literally the judge will say at one point like you bring up all these this
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  evidence that suggests that that it might not be the case and then the judge
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  will literally say well I mean that is suspicious and and I mean it does
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  suggest that that he didn't do it but I mean there's no definitive proof that
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  he's innocent so I'm just going to have to find him guilty well I mean it's a video game I
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  mean yeah I know it's got to just go against what you're trying to do surely
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  yeah yeah I I understand why it's just it makes me laugh every time maybe you
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  should be better if you were the prosecutor well yeah the prosecution um
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  is quite funny it too um often in the game evidence will be introduced in the
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  middle of the trial um when you attempt to argue a point like you try and make a
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  point and then the prosecution will say well uh that would be true if it wasn't
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  for the blood stain on this shoe that you've not seen before so we'll
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  introduce that into evidence yeah I think yeah that's right and not only
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  that uh there've been several times in the game where a witness has introduced
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  evidence that even the prosecution didn't know about so and I think that
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  would actually happen it would I don't think it's allowed to I'm going
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  to well no they just go oh yeah I've got this and then they go then there'd be
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  objections and they' be taken out of cour all that there's a woman in this
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  game there is a woman who literally produces a bloodstained shoe and says I
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  took it from the crime scene cuz I don't trust the police and the judge says well we're
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  going to have to have to bring that into evidence no questions asked that's right
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  uh and on that note the judge is a simpleton um and is very often bribed
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  into doing things like allowing evidence illegally into the into the court uh or
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  um going back on a verdict that he's already issued um so that we can talk
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  about it a bit more he'll literally decare somebody guilty and then uh a
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  witness will provide him with a free lunch and he'll say well maybe we can
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  maybe we can think about it a bit more court adjourned until tomorrow free
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  lunch all it takes so what you're saying is I should get this game it's pretty
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  great it's actually it's really fun the game you basically basically um at the
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  beginning of each episode it's kind of episodic um you come across a case
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  somehow like whether it's a friend of yours or somebody comes into the office
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  and um you uh you're a defense attorney so always the goal is to try and prove
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  that somebody is innocent um and you do all the investigation yourself as well
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  and you do literally you take evidence from crime scenes um so it kind of so
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  you're also introducing every absolutely like it yeah yeah yeah absolutely
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  there's been times where I've said oh and I've present something and the
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  prosecution's like what is that that's not how this works but it
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  does yeah um and there are even has been
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  at least two cases so far where my client has confessed to the crime right
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  but they're always innocent they just don't know it yet and through through
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  investigation in both cases I discovered that they actually were innocent just
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  thought that they killed somebody so yeah it's quite funny in
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  that sense as well so but yeah and you you you wander around locations you talk
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  to people you um collect Clues and investigate and then uh that'll be one
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  day and then the next day you're in court and um basically the way it works
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  is you get a witness in and they testify and then each sentence of their
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  testimony you can question them on and get more information and then you present evidence
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  um that proves that that sentence is a contradiction kind of thing and then it
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  proceeds proceeds from there it's pretty cool it's it's very on Rails um yes
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  right and I that that is frustrating sometimes because similar to LA Noir you
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  know in LA Noir where yeah I said well sometimes you got two options
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  that are like um you know tell her don't worry about it or ask her where she was
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  that day and if you choose ask her where that was she was on that day he starts
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  going you [ __ ] killed him didn't you you [ __ ] killed him and I'm like whoa
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  whoa yeah definitely yeah so there's a bit of that kind of thing where it's
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  like well that is that's not what I meant but
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  um there needs to be a back button in
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  that game in eleno yeah yeah h i I stopped playing it because of that well
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  that that I think that was a great game but um I think because yeah it didn't
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  matter what you actually asked people you could just keep playing that sort of
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  took away from it all these innocent people to jail yeah
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  that's the thing and the thing was it was easy to suddenly start doing really
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  badly for no reason like as Matt said but
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  also it was easy to just even if you did really badly they'd just be like oh yeah
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  you're a disgrace to the force anyway here's your next mission and promotion
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  in accordance with how the game would be anyway yeah yeah it was as soon as I'd
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  be talking to somebody and then I realized that the the game is not on the
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  same track as I am it would just frustrate me yeah like I'd ask a
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  question I'm like oh I want to ask about that but then the conversation wouldn't
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  really be what about about what I wanted and I'm like this is annoying sometimes
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  I ask I see the option go I'm going to ask that cuz I want to know about that
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  and the way the question comes across is nothing to do with what I was exp that's
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  what I'm saying he F the handle and started accusing them of of [ __ ] and I'm
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  like whoa that's that's not what I meant yeah so be doing this Shifty eye look so
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  you'd be like okay time for an accusation and you go in for it and it's
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  like how could you suggest that and then you just see him Crossing it off the
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  list and you're like but he was acting all shift yeah yeah and again with the with
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  both of those games with with Phoenix right and this like how could it be any
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  other way it's a game like it's not a mind reader know it's good cuz I just
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  love driving around old Hollywood yeah yeah I would like to play it again
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  actually and just see at the time it got me so worked up and annoyed but think
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  now that I know that if I can just sit down and and just go with it and you
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  know if that happens well so be it you know it's going to played through the
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  same game twice again what game Forza 2
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  horiz fora Horizon 2 presents fast and F
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  Furious 7 what wow I played on the Xbox 360 and the Xbox One what is it just a
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  racing game it's a racing game all right all right it's they've released um Fast
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  and Furious it looks like they're doing some advertising so they've released a
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  game oh is it free free free up until
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  the 10th of April oh on Xbox one as well yeah so I got it on both I played and
• 26:43
  finished it on both cuz I wanted a th000 gamer score y so I got 2,000 gamer score
• 26:47
  for free and it's just Forza so I like Forza driving around so
• 26:53
  it bit fun for me do you get to um to catch Michelle r RZ as she flies off the
• 26:59
  hood of a car off a freeway overpass and then you you crash your car into the
• 27:03
  barrier and fly over and catch her and crash into the hood of another car does
• 27:05
  that happen no oh I'll forget it premise
• 27:10
  is you you race other people for pinks to win these 10 cars that they need and
• 27:17
  then you drive the car to the plane and they go off on sub Mission so it's kind
• 27:21
  of like uh street rod remember street rod yeah yeah exactly like street rod oh
• 27:27
  man so y you remember street rod Dan I do remember street rod actually do you get
• 27:32
  to screw the engine into your car and all that business that was the best yeah
• 27:37
  they really should make that game again I don't know why they haven't I know why
• 27:41
  cuz it would be crap all right no no I'm not saying it
• 27:45
  was a bad game back then I'm just saying it's not as good as you remember yeah
• 27:49
  but I mean obviously it would it was limited and it could still be limited
• 27:54
  but just the fact that you you um you know you unscrew the the the bits of the
• 27:58
  car and put in the new parts that you bought and all that kind of stuff and
• 28:01
  then you race that would be great yeah that could be a good mobile game oh I
• 28:05
  think it would be great you know what I don't think we should discuss this on
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  the podcast I think we should [ __ ] brainstorm this and then pay some Indian
• 28:11
  person on elens to make it for
• 28:15
  us sure there's some on fiver.com yeah well within
• 28:22
  reason so um Matt you've got a Nintendo
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  Wii yes I do yes sorry are you I do um you're looking forward to Nintendo
• 28:31
  releasing get another
• 28:32
  console yeah uh well we'll see we'll see
• 28:38
  when that uh when that actually happens but they did announce that this
• 28:41
  week they're making a new console which which is very very soon cuz the Wii U's
• 28:46
  only been out for 2 years well it's probably because the Wii U is doing [ __ ]
• 28:51
  mhm mhm so to be honest they probably
• 28:55
  probably do need to do that um and the other thing that annoys me a bit uh not
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  to jump ahead and we can talk about it a bit afterwards um but they've announced
• 29:05
  that there's a new console and they've also announced that they're delaying the
• 29:08
  new Zelda game which makes me wonder are they going to [ __ ] us around and put it
• 29:12
  out on the new one instead and I hope not well the only reason I will buy a
• 29:17
  Wii U eventually for Zelda well you might not have to
• 29:21
  yeah um but I don't know should Nintendo just maybe go the way of Sega and stop
• 29:28
  releasing consoles they and just go Hi here's our games they've said that
• 29:33
  they're going to start licensing stuff onto smartphones and things so I guess
• 29:39
  like if that means we get some Mario games on my iPhone that would be great
• 29:43
  but because they make some [ __ ] excellent games
• 29:47
  like uh the Mario Kart is amazing um Mario Party is fun I love Mario party I
• 29:53
  know people don't like it but I love it oh no I love Mario party I love fun fans
• 29:57
  of Mario party here yeah it's good stuff man even their sports games right
• 30:00
  there's uh Mario Golf on 3DS my only problem with them is they're very
• 30:06
  expensive compared to other like IOS games and stuff so but but you get a
• 30:12
  premium product I guess so I mean it would be good to see
• 30:17
  that stuff on on iPhone but I don't know
• 30:21
  yeah should they just stop making
• 30:24
  consoles like maybe we you we you sold a
• 30:29
  lot but no one brought any games for it
• 30:34
  well this what's good on it I mean I play Mario Kart Mario Kart's
• 30:40
  great on it but also Mario Kart Zelda Mario Kart kind of this well they're the
• 30:44
  same as as what was on the Wii yeah you know like people already have those
• 30:49
  games and and to be honest uh I don't have my Wii set up anymore and and I won
• 30:55
  the Wii U so it's great that I have Mario Cart Eight there and I can play it
• 30:59
  but the tracks are all from the previous games mostly there's a few new ones and
• 31:04
  it's not that different at all from the previous one and and in some ways it's
• 31:07
  worse than the previous one because in this one if you're in first place you
• 31:12
  don't get some of the powerups and stuff like I really think what Nintendo should
• 31:16
  do is just bow out of the console game stick with handheld yeah like they've
• 31:21
  got that market they still do amazing stuff there but console they're
• 31:26
  just they're just there would you want them to make games for
• 31:30
  the Xbox and the PlayStation definitely okay release Mario Party on the Xbox and
• 31:36
  Playstation that' be great yeah you're probably right it's not a bad idea I
• 31:40
  wonder if they've considered it I'm they probably have I bet it's they're
• 31:45
  Japanese and I think probably giving up and releasing stuff
• 31:50
  on um the Xbox in particular would be distasteful to them because it's a an
• 31:56
  American company this the PlayStation probably is more likely because it's
• 32:01
  Japanese I mean uh cuz as I understand
• 32:04
  it you know they're still not they're not as cool with
• 32:10
  uh with the uh you know Xbox and that over there I was wondering where you
• 32:16
  were going that Matt oh yeah right it probably did sound
• 32:20
  like I was going to say something racist yeah that's why that's why nobody was
• 32:24
  prodding you along we were just waiting to hear what you said Xbox Microsoft
• 32:28
  doesn't sell well in Japan they're uh not as cool with uh you
• 32:34
  know um uh the Xbox and like was like oh
• 32:39
  okay the Xbox sure okay white people
• 32:45
  yeah I really do like a lot of the Nintendo games but I'm not going to buy
• 32:49
  a Nintendo console anymore I've never bought a Nintendo
• 32:54
  console never ever never ever to me they've always has been the one that's
• 32:58
  like oh yeah fun and I'll definitely enjoy playing a couple of games from at
• 33:02
  a friend's house and they have one but I'm going to buy the serious one for
• 33:05
  myself so that started out when it was the the NZ versus the Sega Master System
• 33:10
  you know I went Master System absolutely Master System you know and then just all
• 33:16
  the way up is you know certainly not going to buy a GameCube instead of a
• 33:21
  PlayStation how about a GameCube the GameCube was great it's just it's it's I
• 33:26
  mean I had Luigi's Mansion all these great games on it but it it's just
• 33:30
  they're not the mainstream console now
• 33:34
  like you have to buy a GameCube and one of you know like a Xbox or a PlayStation
• 33:41
  yeah like it's just not it's not worth it for the handful of games like I know
• 33:46
  with the Xbox I'm going to play I've already got 20 30 games yeah on the Xbox
• 33:51
  One Nintendo it's been out for two years and I can name maybe two games I want on it
• 33:58
  yeah Mario Kart and I think Mario part's
• 34:01
  now out yeah oh if we hadn't won this
• 34:06
  console we wouldn't have one no like I wouldn't I know I I'd want one but I
• 34:11
  don't think I could justify it no I don't think developers are really making
• 34:16
  a lot for it anymore except for Nintendo um have you guys seen uh
• 34:22
  bloodborne no I uh saw a bunch of stuff about it it
• 34:28
  is a
• 34:31
  vampire um game on PlayStation 4 and so
• 34:36
  far it is the only game I've seen that makes me go [ __ ] wish I had a PS4
• 34:42
  really yeah I did not hear any of that see here's the thing though vampire
• 34:48
  games I'm just not sure about vampires
• 34:52
  at all anymore right like vampires have gotten pretty [ __ ] in the last few years
• 34:57
  is how do they you know how does this how does this go well from what I
• 35:03
  understand it's it's got some
• 35:05
  online um components to it and it's it's
• 35:10
  like a action role playing game like um
• 35:13
  kind of like Dark Souls oh yeah yeah um but you play as a
• 35:19
  um uh I think you're a vampire anyway you're talking about bloodborne yeah
• 35:24
  yeah yeah have you seen bloodborne I've heard about it um yeah I think you do
• 35:28
  play as a vampire yeah yeah I was just saying it's the only game that so far
• 35:32
  has made me want to buy PS4 just because I look at people
• 35:36
  talking about it and you know this footage of people playing and fighting
• 35:41
  werewolves and and fighting against each other and what is it with people
• 35:45
  assuming there's going to be werewolves anytime there's vampires you're talking
• 35:48
  me out of this that's just how it goes now it's
• 35:52
  so
• 35:56
  unoriginal I'm so bored by I'm so bored by
• 36:01
  that um it'll surprise nobody to learn that the game was inspired by the novel
• 36:07
  Dracula oh is that right
• 36:10
  yeah yeah have you heard of it uh a
• 36:14
  Dracula no no I think it's a it's like a Twilight fanfiction or something yeah it
• 36:21
  must be a spin-off of Twilight somewhere yeah I think so anyway I just thought
• 36:26
  I'd mention that because uh I've been seeing a lot about it and it excited me titillated
• 36:32
  me well I'm glad you were titillated I thank
• 36:36
  you it's a weird thing to be glad about but I am
• 36:42
  glad uh you guys seen these cupcakes that got banned in France I have I've
• 36:47
  got a little bit of a problem with this but let's uh let's let's talk it through
• 36:52
  okay um a French bakery has been banned from selling a variety of cupcakes cake
• 36:58
  because they're racist they are cakes
• 37:01
  that look like um like overweight black
• 37:05
  people with huge genitals yep and uh they've although
• 37:12
  some some people might say that chocolate is chocolate and these just
• 37:17
  look like people with huge genitals and not necessarily any kind of racist
• 37:22
  caricature just because they made out of I thought just
• 37:26
  because the made black cupcakes how is that
• 37:31
  racist well yeah they said that they're made of moose which is brown yeah yeah
• 37:38
  so what do you want me to do about it fair enough well yeah that's kind of
• 37:42
  what's my first in impression like sure I mean if you find this offensive
• 37:48
  because of the huge dick well that's fine they have a huge dick but if you're
• 37:53
  going oh they're racist against black people it's like well these not actually
• 37:58
  be black people they might just be people made out of cholate and this is
• 38:02
  the color that chocolate is and also uh one of the things people are saying is
• 38:07
  we're in a country where the word equality is part of the Constitution
• 38:10
  which means it doesn't allow for racism
• 38:13
  um even if they are intended to be black
• 38:18
  people why is it racist like yes it's not racist to depict a black having
• 38:24
  having the same thing in that shop if that was if that was
• 40:27
  ly black people have been discriminated against a lot and we still have to deal
• 40:33
  with the consequences of that which means probably we're not going to be
• 40:36
  allowed to make these we have to deal with a cons no it means we're not
• 40:40
  allowed to have delicious black people cakes is what I mean no that's um
• 40:45
  because people will have a cry about but yeah I mean I I can't understand the
• 40:49
  article matter going like we must fight this kind of racism I can not imagine
• 40:54
  what would be said if an African Baker decided to repr sent Jesus Christ or the
• 40:58
  Virgin Mary in a similar way do it please do it because who [ __ ] cares
• 41:04
  but also that's a racist statement to me like African Baker what well why
• 41:10
  wouldn't they also believe in Jesus Christ as the Virgin Mary yeah and also
• 41:15
  not everyone in Africa is black no I mean most of them and not every black
• 41:20
  person is delicious or a
• 41:24
  baker this is that was a quote from was George tin like he's part of the French
• 41:30
  representative council of black associations and he's just called to me
• 41:33
  he's implying that all Africans are black I I really really hope you're not
• 41:37
  reading that off the screen and you just know those
• 41:42
  facts yeah no I'm sorry I'm reading it off the screen no but the baker has said
• 41:47
  it's absurd and hurtful these pastries have absolutely no racial connotation at
• 41:51
  all as far as he's concerned they're little human beings that happen to be
• 41:55
  made of moose so they're brown just happened to be black and gay I
• 42:00
  [Laughter] mean yeah I can see his point like how
• 42:06
  the [ __ ] is he going to make a make cakes out of moose and not have them be
• 42:10
  brown but I guess maybe he should have thought about it a bit because obviously
• 42:13
  people are stupid and they're going to complain about it but that's the thing
• 42:17
  do we just have to be overly careful now because stupid people are going to
• 42:20
  complain about [ __ ] yeah apparently we do apparently we do I don't think we've
• 42:24
  followed that rule so far on our podcast oh no no I mean we don't
• 42:28
  CU we don't care but this Baker obvious I mean to be honest it wouldn't surprise
• 42:31
  me if one day if for some reason um somebody cared enough there was an
• 42:36
  article written about this podcast oh true absolutely and the thing is like if
• 42:39
  we were trying to make a buck out of this podcast we'd probably have to be a
• 42:43
  little bit more P yeah yeah but really I mean we I I mean I stand by the fact
• 42:48
  that I'm not I'm not prejudiced I just make stupid jokes that's you know yeah
• 42:54
  all you tell that to all the black people you've offended have I offended
• 42:58
  black people well I got a lot you have I mean I know I know I know black people
• 43:04
  and I know that I've offended any of them I know gay people too I don't think
• 43:08
  I've offended them either well I'm sure maybe um maybe although I did meet
• 43:13
  actually uh you know this story I think you may I don't know if I've told this
• 43:16
  on the podcast but when I lived in um new town I met a guy called Dave who was
• 43:20
  from Colorado he was a black guy from America M and he said when he first came
• 43:23
  to Australia he thought everybody was being really really rude and and and
• 43:30
  racist because people would make jokes about things that in in the US you just
• 43:35
  don't make jokes about them kind of thing like they would ask him if he was
• 43:39
  you know oh you having the fried chicken tonight kind of thing stuff like that
• 43:43
  and at first he was like what the [ __ ] [ __ ] kidding yeah but then after a
• 43:47
  time he said and I said this is him speaking not me he said he realized that
• 43:52
  we didn't have that over here so we think it's stupid and funny yeah so and
• 43:58
  I we have a reputation Australians have a reputation for being casually racist
• 44:02
  um and I think it's just because like I don't know we don't have
• 44:06
  a whole lot of compared to the rest of the world we don't have a whole lot of
• 44:09
  real racism except except against Arabs lately unfortunately and I'll just I'll
• 44:16
  add to your list the the Aboriginal stuff that happened up until really
• 44:21
  recently really recently yeah all right fine that too well as was then young
• 44:26
  young
• 44:30
  Australians fine do we have a jingle for Matt justifies his own racism it's not
• 44:37
  racism is it
• 44:44
  racist but I love everybody
• 44:50
  equally except the [Music]
• 44:55
  Jews that was I
• 45:03
  love there he goes again there he goes again remember when what was it Luke
• 45:08
  couldn't didn't I'm not racist on this podcast no no Luke couldn't work out
• 45:12
  what was racist about something D [ __ ] about black face that's
• 45:18
  right he goes what's the difference blue and Dave was like that's
• 45:24
  not the world we live in Luke so don't come to me complaining about not
• 45:31
  understanding yeah now I'm with Luke I think in
• 45:37
  certain contexts it would be not racist but unfortunately that's not the world
• 45:41
  we live in yeah I think that was the conclusion we came to uh on the last
• 45:46
  podcast that we spoke about it too was that he's right and he's right yeah so
• 45:51
  unfortunately we live in a world where these cakes are racist to enough people
• 45:56
  that it's a problem we need to F out what Kanye thinks oh I'm sure Kanye
• 46:01
  would say these cakes were delicious my cat really enjoyed them and I didn't
• 46:06
  even want to play with that cat like a delicious moose that's all for this week
• 46:11
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