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15 YEARS OF PODCASTING | The Whitfield Report Special! · The Whitfield Report

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  Now broadcasting from the next-gen conservative studio in
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  Sunny South Florida, bringing you the latest in politics
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  current events and pop culture. This is he's the Whitfield
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  Report with Sam Whitfield. Well, good day, ladies and
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  gentlemen, welcome to the Whitfield report. 15-year
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  anniversary show, folks, I can hardly believe it's been that
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  long but here we are. It's been 15 years since I
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  started podcasting and I am very happy to be here with you all
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  welcome to the show and I'm going to do something a little
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  special for you here, folks. I'm going to be playing some old
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  clips of the show. for you all tonight and I'm hoping that.
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  You guys will enjoy that. And for some reason, my camera
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  there seems to be a bit of a delay between my mouth moving in
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  the, in the camera itself. So that's a little weird, but
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  nonetheless. Maybe it will resolve itself.
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  Hopefully it does. And of course let me let me just
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  check and make sure everything is in fact okay.
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  Yes we are alive on Rumble. It looks like and how I would
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  everyone on Odyssey as well. so, very nice.
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  So hopefully we're going to have a few guests.
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  On. Hopefully that will be the case.
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  We may have a few surprise guests as well.
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  I I sent the link out to some people, so hopefully they'll be
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  joining us down the line but well, I'm waiting for that.
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  While I'm waiting for people to join and You know, sharing the
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  link and whatnot. I figured I would go ahead for
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  you ladies and gentleman and you know kind of explain the origins
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  of the Field Report which has gone under several different
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  names and variations over the years.
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  Going back to you know, my the very first iteration of this
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  podcast was called the Whitfield nation which guy you know, more
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  or less ripped off from Michael Savage and I was in junior high,
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  and I suppose I could, I suppose, I should feel people in
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  on the background of how I got started in past, in podcasting,
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  in general, because it starts more or less even before I
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  touched a microphone ladies and gentlemen and the The truth of
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  how I got started in podcasting. Is this when I was, About.
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  Nine or ten years old. My parents got divorced. and I
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  was, you know, pretty emotionally devastated by that,
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  in all honesty and it sent me into A pretty severe depression.
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  that last for, you know, a number of Years and, you know,
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  it was tough to, you know, get through.
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  So I was dealing with this depression and Just kind of.
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  You know, surviving the days more or less.
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  Best way I can put it. and then, when I was about like, so, my
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  parents are divorced when I was nine, and then when I was 10, I
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  remember I was like, in fourth or fifth grade at the time.
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  That was when I started to take a liking to history, really and
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  American politics as subjects in school. and I, I began to really
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  excel at those areas of study and It was also that summer.
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  ladies and gentlemen, that I would often be driving around
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  with my mom, because she would be running errands and doing all
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  sorts of things, you know, daily and so, I would, you know, be
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  riding with her in the backseat and I remember, That she had
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  Rush Limbaugh on in the car. and, I don't really know what it
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  was about. Well I actually do know what it
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  was that rush. It wasn't anything particular
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  that he was saying that attracted me to him.
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  You know, I was still very young and I was kind of starting to
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  begin to understand politics of bit.
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  You know, from school and whatnot but I didn't fully
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  understand those. Yeah, 10.
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  But what did Captivate me about Rush was the way in which he
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  spoke? About various topics and issues.
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  This is a guy who was very exciting and very animated to
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  listen to and I could tell that he was really enthusiastic about
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  his about what he was talking about and that really made an
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  impression on me. And for whatever reason, it
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  popped into my head, that wow, this guy is really excited.
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  He's, you know, animated he's saying all these crazy things
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  and he's on the, he's on the radio, just talking to people.
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  I want to do that someday. I want to be on the radio.
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  So those are where the first seeds were like I planted.
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  And I do remember, One particular broadcast, you did
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  that same year. We're talking about the idea of
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  American exceptionalism. and the idea that you could start from,
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  Abject poverty or abject struggle.
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  And yet. Rise up.
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  In this land of opportunity. And go from.
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  Rags to Riches or start your own business, or do whatever it is,
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  you wanted to do in this country. and as I've discussed
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  in previous shows, over the years, And I'm not going to
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  rehash the whole story. But my parents were told when I
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  was born that I would never walk talk, be able to roll over or do
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  much of anything. I was going to be a vegetable
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  and yet, you know, through hard work in physical therapy and
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  speech therapy at a very young age, you know, I was able to
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  learn to talk. I was, I went from being
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  nonverbal, like, around a year old to being fully verbal.
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  By the time I was like three and a half, four years old. you
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  know, in- A stutter. Everyone's and why people were
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  like, can't really tell that I have cerebral palsy and, you
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  know, in physics in, and in physical therapy, and
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  occupational therapy. I had been working hard to
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  improve my body and, you know, improve my life.
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  So the idea is Rush was talking about of American exceptionalism
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  in bettering oneself, their hard work, they weren't foreign to me
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  because in a way, I understood them in my personal life and I
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  still, you know, I wanted to get onto, you know, I had the thing
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  of radio, kind of in the back of my head for a while, but
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  obviously, because I was a kid, there was no way.
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  I was going to get on air. At that point.
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  So fast forward to around 2007, right?
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  So I'm like might so my parents got divorced in 2004.
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  And then fast forward to like 2007, I'm 13 years old. and,
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  There's a comic shop over by my dad's house.
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  And one of the other things that those who know me, well probably
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  know is, I'm a huge fan of comic books.
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  You know, DC Marvel when I was a kid but before but before they
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  want both woke. you know, and I was inspired by, not just, you
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  know, the political You know, things I heard on the radio at a
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  young age also, you know, the comics when I was growing up and
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  the ones that had come out before, I was born, you know,
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  talk to American exceptionalism in this i.d. of bettering
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  oneself. So I was into comics from a very
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  young age as well. and I remember on the time I was like
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  13 or so, in 2007, that was when you know, comic book podcasting
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  became kind of a big deal. And people.
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  You know, would start listening to these things.
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  Now, I initially had a herd of podcasting until I went into the
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  comic shop by my dad's house. With my dad.
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  And these two guys were you know, talking into microphones
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  that look like they look like they had like a radio show or
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  something they were, you know, they had these two laptops and
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  they had this sound mixer and they were sitting at a card
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  table surrounded by all these comic books and they were
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  talking out, what was in the store that week and You know, I
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  went up to them and asked what they were doing and they said
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  we're recording a podcast. Now keep in mind this is into
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  this is like in like 2007 so at the time no one's really heard
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  of podcasting. but, I started listening to their podcast. and,
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  A few things, you know, caught my interest one, was the fact
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  that they could for much say whatever they wanted on the
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  podcast, including swear words and, you know, sexual jokes and,
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  you know, pretty raunchy comedy. And, you know, and I was a
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  teenager that that time. So I wasn't all sorts of
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  Mischief is stuff. But the idea that they could say
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  these things, you know, and get away with it.
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  Really kind of. Struck a chord.
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  They had free reign to do whatever they wanted. so, I kept
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  on listening to them and then in 2008. when I was, you know, in
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  eighth grade that was when that was when the 2008 election
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  happened and you know, Obama had just hit the scene and Everyone
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  was kind of enthralled with him. And by that time I, you know,
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  had already kind of become aware of you nobama and kind of the
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  media bias of the left and whatnot.
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  And one thing that was very kind to apparent me.
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  Was that the media at the time was praising Obama and they were
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  making John McCain who was this? You know, veteran out.
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  The meeting made him out to be a bad guy and make him seem like
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  a, you know, a nasty horrible individual sound familiar,
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  folks. And even when I was, you know in
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  junior high, I like that really made an impression on me.
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  What really made an impression on me further was CNN used to
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  have this program called CNN Student News.
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  Which was directly targeted at like, the junior high high
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  school demographic. And by today's standards, it
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  probably seems pretty quiet, but there that there was definitely
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  liberal indoctrination back then. and so, and it bugs me,
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  and I began thinking about it and thinking about it, and till,
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  and until one day, I just thought, You know. if though, if
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  the Liberals can You know, indoctrinate kids.
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  And spread their propaganda. Then why can't you know, why
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  can't there be like a conservative voice for why can't
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  there be a conservative voice? That's trying to reach young
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  people and so, I basically did a lot of research.
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  Found this free program called audacity.
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  Which you could use to record things.
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  I grabbed a headset mic. It was like USB headset mic that
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  we had lying around the house, and I plugged it into my Dell
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  laptop at the time, which was used.
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  And I recorded this. 15 minute rant morass.
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  And that was my very first podcast episode, and I recorded
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  that on March 25th of 2008. And no one really listen to that
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  podcast. But I have to tell you.
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  Doing that podcast alone in a room.
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  Really felt cathartic for me. you know, to be able to say all
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  these things I've been thinking on the podcast and one of my
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  very earliest Topics on the stream.
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  Was the Iraq War. and, It was, it was a it was a fun show to
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  kind do in retrospect. It was spur of the moment and
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  I'm not really sure how really good of quality the podcast was,
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  but You know, it was there. So that is the origins of the
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  podcast. And let me see if I can actually
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  find. That podcast for you guys
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  because I've never played it. On air before. but I looked up
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  the other day, and I believe I've found it.
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  If I I'm not mistaken. What me ago?
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  We just do some searching if I can remember it.
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  And so far, I'm not seeing anyone here and shat at all, but
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  While I'm thinking of it, I would like to acknowledge genius
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  anus. For donating. $15 worth of
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  PlayStation credit. To help celebrate the show.
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  So, I would like to all do acknowledgements at the end of
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  the show. I would like to acknowledge
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  genius anus for selling that very generous donation.
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  Okay. Hold on a sec, folks.
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  I hate to. Okay, that's why I mistyped
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  podcast. Okay.
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  Alrighty, there. Alright.
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  Um, all right. and ladies and gentlemen, let me just make sure
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  that before I go ahead and play this for you all, let me make
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  sure that I do in fact have the right episode.
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  All right. Oh, are you?
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  Are you fucking kidding me? Are opening the file.
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  Oh my God. Well.
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  Hold on. Not All Is Lost, ladies and
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  gentlemen. Here.
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  Yeah, hold on. How are you kidding me?
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  all right, well this is unfortunate but I guess I guess,
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  ladies and gentlemen, the Pod Bean who was my very first
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  podcast host that they decided to did they decided to delete
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  the file of my very first podcast after all these years,
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  which is a real bummer I was really hoping to be able to play
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  that for you guys even though it is kind of cringe.
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  But you know what's not cringe at all?
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  Is we do have a guest genius anus.
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  Joins us on the show. Hey man.
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  My audio is probably going to be.
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  Can you hear me? Yeah, I can hear.
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  You just fine. Can you hear me?
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  Yeah, my audio is probably going to be sure but I wanted to jump
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  in just briefly to help you celebrate.
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  That wasn't $15. I must have garbled house at it
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  that was $30. So it's $15 for 15 years and
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  then it was another $15 because I was in the process before
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  YouTube unjust fully band. You I was in the process is
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  super chatting you and they took you down in the middle of me
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  paying for that super cat. Jeez.
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  Well, thank you then for the 30 dollar dollars.
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  So I did some snooping around. I found out someone had already
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  gotten you that damn Wizard game because I was in a profess, my
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  love to you and get you the Wizard game, but I heard you
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  already had it and I couldn't quite figure out how to buy a
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  digital medium. Send it to you.
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  So instead, you got 30 bucks. Oh yeah, I appreciate it.
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  So And but and by the way, I think, I think President Trump
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  might be, might be contacting you over your, he might be
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  trying to buy the trademark for horse-faced now.
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  So how's it going up against that one bit?
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  I can hear where name store is now Stormy Daniels.
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  Is it the horse race? And politics?
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  It's in Coulter. See, going back against Ann
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  Coulter again, I don't. Yeah.
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  Well, well, he well, he called Spray Daniels.
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  Horseface at the at that rally today, though.
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  So, and I'm And I'm like, wait a minute, man.
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  Wait a minute. Ralph, is it going to get
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  confused? So, right around so bad, how my
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  God, I'm gonna fucking a porn star pants who might get in
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  here, but the damn baby down, get in here, but can have it.
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  And because I like Trump, I'll give it to him for a real cheap
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  price man. Like him sad, probably let the
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  trademark go for about a million.
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  Yeah that's that's that's he's the one that wipes his ass.
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  So fucking Ross over this shit out 30 grand.
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  I told him it's 29 pieces short. Yeah I guess they-- I guess
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  they-- get a ton of him though at the coin shop from what I
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  understand. Oh no.
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  So today he was putting up some fucking Nazi money on his coin
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  shop or whatever. Talk about history repeating
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  itself. I'm just like, I don't read
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  Hitler Youth And my struggle. Well, well, speaking of that,
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  though, what while you're here? I do kind of want to get your
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  reaction on that, because I find it funny that that the same day
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  of my shows anniversary make Fuentes got felt it in the
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  biggest way possible my by by Kanye, you know, I guess, I
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  guess. He, I guess you don't.
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  Likes Jews again now because of because of Jonah Hill of all
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  people, you know, I don't like Kanye but I do have to agree
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  with him. That Jonah Hill was a funny
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  dude. Loved him in The Wolf of Wall
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  Street. What do ya down?
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  Leo takes like way too many Quaaludes and he and he
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  Compares. He Compares like overdosing on
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  Quaaludes having served to having like severe cerebral
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  palsy. And I'm like
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  yeah. But since we are celebrating 15
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  years, it's been a while. Since I'm going to tell you a
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  story, you probably haven't heard before.
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  Hold on, hold on, hold on. I heard something about some guy
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  wiping his ass with silver and I felt summoned.
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  And so here I M wall silver. Wrong better believe, it's raw.
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  All right, go ahead, happy 15 years Sam.
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  And how long you could stick around.
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  But I wanted those chime in. Thank you.
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  Check the hey, pal, man. Well, you're welcome, it's how I
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  be how I be okay, go ahead, I cut you, you say but but yeah,
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  so you see it is. My total a log Victory shirt but
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  it hasn't sent the other two. I have four out of six and yeah.
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  I'm still waiting on the other two, but and it's it me the
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  coffee cup. I ordered from Max but it has,
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  its it me my internet scumbag church.
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  So I've got a whole wardrobe that's just waiting to be
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  shipped to me, apparently. Sorry, I killed your story, man.
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  I'm sorry, I'm gonna mute myself.
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  It's actually kind of good that you're here.
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  You're in this story because I don't know if you ever told Sam
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  this story about when he followed me on Twitter, back in
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  the old days. Oh no I have it.
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  Yeah this is how I get your stuff.
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  This is how I found out about my favorite crippled saying build.
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  I had no idea that he'd interviewed.
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  Bickers, this is back when I was still happily a nobody and
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  nobody really cared about me on Internet.
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  It was great. It was quiet.
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  I could shitpost and everybody left me the fuck alone.
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  And it's this is part of the reason why Sam phone we became
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  such a big deal because I was just like in DM's or Vickers
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  talking about you know, he made 40 grand, 50 Grand, 60 Grand,
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  just pissing it away the toll it or whatever and what lightsaber
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  he is getting that you know whatever shit we're talking
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  about. And then all of a sudden, I got
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  a notification on my phone and somebody followed me and Sam
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  with build and what this motherfucker looks too
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  professional to be on Twitter because I love you anybody's
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  ever seen, Sam's Twitter profile pictures, but he takes it way
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  too seriously. He went in, like, had a photo op
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  for right. Running for president or some
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  shit. And his profile picture is like
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  five fucking star gold-plated, but look for professional as
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  fuck. When everybody else is running.
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  Around with anime avatars, especially the people that
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  follow a guy named genius anus on the fucking internet.
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  So I saw Papa by notifications and I did what any reasonable
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  asshole would do. And I don't blow it up.
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  What this? What's this motherfuckers
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  pronouns and seeing it? They them.
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  But he/she do. He's a Crip Earl, but it is
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  profile. His pronouns robot journalist
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  and podcaster and everything. You're not out of Vickers, I
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  don't even know. Vickers remembers this story but
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  I immediately did has I tune. Oh my God.
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  You're not going to fucking believe this a real-life
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  honest-to-god journalist, just followed me.
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  Who the fuck does that? It was like journalists and that
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  from slick-ass fucking profile. Picture.
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  Well, my God, a real journalist followed me.
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  I fooled one. I pulled one.
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  Yes, my Lord. Right?
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  So that's how I was introduced to Sam Whitfield was before I
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  ever appeared on a show, I never watch the show.
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  This is why I still didn't say I'm a big fan is because I fold
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  shame with the old into following me.
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  But it was the ultimate grip because now I'm following him
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  and super chatting him. Well, well, you know how I.
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  Well, why I love That story and Matt do you actually know how I
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  found out about you? Yeah vaguely.
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  But hey remind me while I'm here.
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  Well I think we have I think we have someone else here too.
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  How awesome IMAX is an axis here too.
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  So this will be Great, but the old on if Max is here, I'm
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  fucking leaving. Nah, I'm just kidding.
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  Uh-oh. Okay, well, people I kid because
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  I love well, well goody good evening Max.
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  So oh God ga is here, it'll be a laugh riot.
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  Yeah, excellent. That's generous might we might
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  have a good mood tonight. We might have we might have the
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  gamma here here. Soon to I'll get it.
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  You gotta get Aqaba to come in and and talk about racing Lagoon
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  now and we'll be there. Yeah, can we not go?
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  He may not be able to fix it. Expected what happened?
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  But well, you're worried away right now.
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  We'll listen, you got caught, you got closer than I ever did.
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  They YouTube cut me off at the new at the knees at 850, Subs,
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  but fuckers, it'll be fair. That's a false comparison Sam.
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  His knees actually work. Yeah, but anyway, now how I
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  found out about your home The situation, mr.
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  Vickers was because A few years. So a few years ago before Owen
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  Benjamin became crazy, he was doing political commentary and
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  then when he did go crazy, I am I made some tweet saying that,
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  like, I never seen anyone go insane on the internet, like,
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  like Owen Benjamin hat had, and I forget who tweeted me, And I
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  wish I did, but someone said, oh, if you think, Owen Benjamin
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  is insane, you need to check out this other guy named Ethan
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  Ralph, and I saw the, I saw the short clip.
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  Yeah. And, and then I, and then I, I
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  talked to a packs and he's like, oh yeah, I know all about, This
• 39:42
  this even real kind and he was the one who told me about faith
• 39:46
  and what had kind happened and someone else then suggested that
• 39:53
  hey this guy has this Vickers guy.
• 39:56
  He's kind of been doing the the podcast circuit but no one's
• 39:59
  giving him a serious interview yet.
• 40:01
  They've all kind of controlling him so why don't you actually
• 40:05
  give him this serious interview so after watching some of the
• 40:09
  interviews I'm like, yeah. No one's actually interviewed
• 40:13
  this guy so I am doing the rest is history.
• 40:17
  Yep. And it's been a good time.
• 40:21
  Hey guys, I wanted to pop on real quick because like I
• 40:24
  actually DM say like, I can't make it on because I got my
• 40:27
  kids, waiting for dinner to get here wife's asleep.
• 40:29
  Everything else we worked all day at the coin shop?
• 40:31
  Just hammering out money, like crazy, crazy money, making
• 40:35
  motherfuckers but Sammy. Happy 15 years back you?
• 40:39
  Sorry, I couldn't stick around and chat.
• 40:41
  Longer, genius. Go fuck yourself.
• 40:43
  No, I didn't know. I'm just kidding.
• 40:44
  You're a good guy. All right, to serve that I'm
• 40:48
  out. You guys.
• 40:49
  Might be in and out, just kind of listening and in chat, but I
• 40:52
  got a lot of shit to do. So I will talk to you guys
• 40:54
  later. See you guys, thank you always a
• 40:57
  pleasure. Always a pleasure.
• 41:01
  Yeah, yeah I got it was a hectic day for me as well, but I had to
• 41:06
  drop by you know, 15 years is quite the Milestone and you've
• 41:11
  been very consistent at this the whole time to a lot of people,
• 41:15
  you know, not so much. You know, they might have a Odd
• 41:19
  of the cringe coffee house like five or six times a year or
• 41:22
  something, you know, but but but but they got the crunch.
• 41:28
  Cop house is its gold. Every, those six episodes per
• 41:32
  year or they're all gold? Yeah, well that's cause I just
• 41:35
  wait, like for funny shit to happen and I don't try to force
• 41:39
  it. I used to try and force myself
• 41:41
  to do weekly content. And, and it just gets It's a
• 41:47
  Grind, but it's a grind that you've been at for a very long
• 41:51
  time. And that's a very respectable
• 41:54
  milestone for sure. Yeah, well, I mean, in all
• 41:58
  honesty, I, as I was kind of saying before you got on here, I
• 42:03
  don't know if you caught this but like I said, I basically
• 42:06
  started doing this whole thing because It was like it was like
• 42:11
  cathartic for me. And you know here we are all
• 42:18
  these your all these years later.
• 42:21
  It kind of also changed their to a bit like my reason for doing
• 42:25
  it. So it used to be just like me
• 42:29
  wanting to propagandized kids and do like the whole right-wing
• 42:33
  thing. But then I actually matured and
• 42:37
  figured I could do an actual, like show, Of this.
• 42:41
  So yeah. And you know it's it's been a
• 42:46
  hell of a ride these past couple weeks.
• 42:48
  The curd interview was great, having Craig on was good.
• 42:51
  You and I been, you know, having a lot of fun with the Monday
• 42:54
  shows. Interesting topics to bust out.
• 42:59
  Yeah, seems to be heading in the right direction.
• 43:04
  Did you speaking of? I see you have your trumpet.
• 43:10
  Me in there. Did you get a chance to watch
• 43:13
  the that rally? I have.
• 43:19
  It's a, my wife is celebrating a birthday in.
• 43:23
  This was our weekend, when, when our son was at his
• 43:28
  grandmother's, and last night, we had some drinks.
• 43:30
  And no, I haven't watched her paid attention to damn near
• 43:33
  anything, but I still had fun in the oven.
• 43:37
  I said I would be here for this show and that's why I'm here
• 43:41
  what what why I appreciate it. So well shmuly and I watch the
• 43:46
  the rally and it was pretty good.
• 43:49
  It was you know was Trump being Trump so yeah which is what you
• 43:55
  want of them. Rightly But yeah, so I didn't
• 44:03
  want to. I do want to jump in here real
• 44:06
  quick cuz I was, I might bickers, I'm only able to jump
• 44:10
  on briefly. I did want to say again.
• 44:13
  Matt Matt's, happy birthday to your wife.
• 44:16
  I don't know how she puts up with you fucking Goblin looking
• 44:19
  dwarf baby. I don't know how your wife puts
• 44:26
  up with me honest to God, me and you were the same person.
• 44:29
  Remember that never forget. And then say me enjoy your card.
• 44:36
  I'm going to keep on listening on Rumble.
• 44:38
  I'm on my phone so I'm not able to sign in and get into chat or
• 44:42
  anything but I did want to jump on and help you celebrate
• 44:44
  everything. And now that Max is here, who is
• 44:47
  a way better co-host of me? I'm going to leave it in capable
• 44:50
  hands and you're going places, buddy.
• 44:55
  You're going to be the new fucking big podcaster.
• 44:57
  The sector from the top on up. Thanks.
• 45:02
  Oh God. Not that sector.
• 45:03
  Hopefully I appreciate it. Yeah.
• 45:07
  So let's start from the top on up.
• 45:09
  So he's there to skip the sector and he'll go to the next level.
• 45:13
  Yeah. Yeah, remember us on the bottom
• 45:19
  whenever you make it to the top. Okay.
• 45:21
  Oh no, I remember you're our ticket to the front of the line.
• 45:25
  Hi, I'm Brie. I'm bringing I'm bringing with
• 45:27
  me. You are already forgotten.
• 45:30
  I mean, yeah. Who are you?
• 45:35
  People and why are you here? That's my box.
• 45:41
  Anyway, congratulations Sammy, I'm gonna go back to do an anus
• 45:45
  shit but Again, I'm always here for you, buddy.
• 45:50
  Let me know if you ever need anything and I'm out.
• 45:52
  Appreciate it. So, All right, and I don't know.
• 46:02
  Okay, there he goes. So yeah, I think the, I think
• 46:09
  the stuff we've been doing for the past two weeks has been
• 46:12
  pretty good. So yeah, if people think it's
• 46:17
  been good, you know, we're planning on more of that.
• 46:20
  It seems to be working, right? Yeah.
• 46:22
  I'm a bit disappointed though because I was going to play my
• 46:26
  first, my very first podcast Cast episode but then pod being
• 46:31
  I guess decided to take it down. So that's a bummer, right?
• 46:41
  Yeah. So Yeah.
• 46:46
  Yeah. I had you know I told you before
• 46:50
  I think it said it on the show was on a while ago.
• 46:52
  I used to do internet radio in the in the house the on days you
• 46:57
  know way back before you too. Yeah, nothing.
• 47:00
  And when cryptic radio died, I realized then that it was a
• 47:05
  mistake to expect the server to backup my content.
• 47:10
  I lost years and years worth. Yeah, that, yeah, that in
• 47:15
  happens with interviews with artists and stuff.
• 47:18
  It's just, oh, yeah, that that's a bummer.
• 47:22
  So yeah, I storage was a little trickier back then, you know, we
• 47:29
  didn't have, you know, five terabyte fucking hard drives.
• 47:32
  That you could just stick it in. Well, not well, not just that,
• 47:36
  but like I remember like, in the early days of podcasting, like
• 47:41
  you would have like limited like upload space on those podcast
• 47:47
  websites. So at Sea, we did it through
• 47:51
  shoutcast, which work through Winamp and so it was just it's
• 47:55
  just a live feed, right? But the problem is, if you don't
• 48:00
  record it on your end, then you're hoping that it stays up
• 48:05
  in the server and we had a server and, you know, I could go
• 48:08
  back and pull all my old episodes at the time.
• 48:10
  But when they went out of business, I have never figured
• 48:12
  on that, right? Right.
• 48:14
  Right. Yeah.
• 48:15
  Save save your shit. You know lesson learned.
• 48:19
  Yeah. But we couldn't know this kind
• 48:24
  of stuff bagging. This is the kind of stuff.
• 48:26
  You just have to deal with with no one could have predicted a
• 48:29
  YouTube just absolutely just shitting all over.
• 48:32
  It, its primary demographics the way it has been but they have
• 48:36
  been. So what are you gonna do?
• 48:38
  Yeah, well I mean I mean blocks are Fredo did kind of the same
• 48:43
  thing because I mean I was over there for years as well.
• 48:48
  And then why have them with it was they basically like out
• 48:53
  price themselves, You know the point that no one wanted to use
• 48:57
  them, they wanted to let it went from being like free to like hey
• 49:01
  we want to charge like $200 a month for you to use our
• 49:04
  service. Yeah.
• 49:06
  And so yeah. And shocker a lot of people
• 49:11
  didn't like that, you know? Now, I mean II mean, I guess if
• 49:16
  you extraterrestrial podcasts are still, you know, doing their
• 49:21
  thing. So, and that actually, I thought
• 49:26
  I like prank calling him a few times, but yeah, no one's going
• 49:30
  to watch that. So They have their Deadwood fan.
• 49:36
  I would watch that. You know, it would be really
• 49:41
  nice. I am internet's come back.
• 49:43
  So how large the demographic for that is I do have to point this
• 49:49
  out. I went and looked and I sold way
• 49:53
  more internet scumbag shirts than I ever thought possible.
• 49:57
  And and cringing over coffee mugs.
• 50:00
  I don't know how that happened because nobody watches my show
• 50:03
  but shout-out people who bought shit.
• 50:06
  I guess it's almost like what I said, was a segue into it.
• 50:11
  You know what I mean into bullying you to returning those
• 50:14
  shirts because they are of a high quality fiber.
• 50:19
  I just want to let everybody know out there.
• 50:21
  These are good quality shirts and they're funny.
• 50:24
  And when you walk up to your friends, they're going to see
• 50:27
  your internet's come back shirts.
• 50:29
  They're going to think that's funny and maybe maybe you'll
• 50:32
  stop being an in cell and finally lose that virginity.
• 50:36
  That's true. That's what an internet scumbag
• 50:38
  shirt can do for you. No, no.
• 50:40
  I'm taking her down though because they're actually not
• 50:42
  high quality, and it's in. It's my fault.
• 50:44
  You see the design that we use, that kind of, like, hard line It
• 50:49
  looks like a pencil or like some the idea I told her was like,
• 50:53
  make it look like he kid drew it in his notebook.
• 50:55
  Like, it's a band logo. The problem is is when they
• 51:00
  screened it on, it's so thin that it wears off.
• 51:04
  I actually that's why I took the one I had behind me down is
• 51:09
  because it just started to wear off.
• 51:10
  So we're we're actually replacing them to do like a
• 51:13
  better version more or less. Yeah, I didn't want to talk
• 51:17
  about the fact that mine says net.
• 51:19
  A tree. Yeah.
• 51:22
  Do you guys use like tea Springer's or something for your
• 51:26
  store? I did use spring for this.
• 51:29
  I'm if I do a second run, I'm going to use another service but
• 51:34
  spring was fine. It's just like I said, I made a
• 51:38
  design that wasn't as well thought out as I had thought,
• 51:42
  well, because because I was, and I've been talking about this for
• 51:48
  a few years. But, I mean, folks, this might
• 51:51
  be a good time to bring. You know, folks want to know one
• 51:54
  Whitfield Report with t-shirts are coming and when the answer
• 52:01
  is, when I can find a provider other than Teespring because
• 52:06
  they won't they won't let me upload my my like logo design
• 52:10
  because they think it they think I'm like they think I'm
• 52:14
  basically like plagiarizing Joe Rogan's logo or something even
• 52:18
  though I'm not. Well that's okay because well
• 52:20
  because it we're not going to make Make your logo as the
• 52:23
  T-shirt. Anyway, we're going to come up
• 52:24
  with some fun and creative designs, and we're going to have
• 52:27
  them out, probably by the end of the month now that you mention
• 52:30
  it, because that's easy, we'll take care of that Sam.
• 52:32
  Is it ableist? If we beat him to the market
• 52:36
  with Sam would Field Report merchandise because you know,
• 52:39
  he's crippled like is that is that distasteful that this ah,
• 52:43
  no, no, no, no. We just have to buy some of his
• 52:48
  as like affirmative action. Okay?
• 52:51
  I don't want to impact At our store zsg score.
• 52:56
  Well, that's what I was thinking of Sam.
• 52:58
  I'll run it by you right now is a t-shirt that's kind of the
• 53:01
  handicap logo that looks like you.
• 53:04
  This is some I'm actually all for that.
• 53:09
  So yeah I thought you would be we put some sunglasses on it you
• 53:14
  know I in a flat cap. Yeah, I know.
• 53:18
  I I've got, I've actually got a t-shirt that the friend of mine
• 53:24
  made made for me. It's in the laundry right now.
• 53:30
  I just remember it, otherwise, I would grab it, but it's, it's
• 53:36
  one of its, one of a guy in a wheelchair and then like, and
• 53:41
  then a chick is like, in his lap and it just says Naked share, it
• 53:47
  is has naked share it right on on.
• 53:50
  And that in, that shirt was given to me by a fan.
• 53:55
  So named a fill. So, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 54:00
  You know, we could just do the your logo, right?
• 54:02
  But that would be kind of boring anyway, and if it Springs giving
• 54:06
  you a hard time about that. Well shit.
• 54:09
  You know, we can come up with funny, t-shirt, designs.
• 54:11
  And I really think people are more like that, like, the
• 54:14
  internet scumbag thing. I didn't think I was going to
• 54:16
  sell one shirt, except maybe somebody would send one to Dave.
• 54:19
  Well, turns out, they sent like 10 to Dave and then other people
• 54:23
  and I don't know who they are, whoever it is, and it's like 10
• 54:26
  to 15 different. People who bought my shirt, who
• 54:29
  are you? You know, say hi.
• 54:31
  In chat sometime. Well, well, well, I don't know
• 54:35
  if you heard if you were here but genius saying is before he
• 54:39
  popped on, just said, he bought like a bunch of eat it.
• 54:43
  He's the one I can confirm. He even bought a mug, which is
• 54:47
  pretty, pretty dope. I didn't even get the mug for
• 54:49
  myself yet because I don't use the traditional coffee mugs.
• 54:53
  You know, I use like a big metal one that keeps it hot.
• 54:58
  And and spring didn't have anything like that.
• 55:01
  Trust me. I looked because if I could have
• 55:02
  a cringing over coffee coffee mug, that was going to be
• 55:06
  awesome. But yeah, yeah.
• 55:08
  A thermos or something? Yeah, I'm the same way.
• 55:12
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 55:14
  Like it didn't seem like it was worse been in like 12 bucks on a
• 55:17
  coffee mug that for for a bit, you know?
• 55:21
  Yeah, I know, especially not like one of those screen-printed
• 55:25
  like, you know, exactly, she be ones.
• 55:28
  So yeah, but we're gonna look into it.
• 55:31
  We're going to see who does high quality merchandise, that's
• 55:34
  where we're going to go. We will do some funny.
• 55:37
  Funny t-shirts and stickers right?
• 55:40
  Why, why know like as far as mugs go or in thermos?
• 55:47
  I'm sure you're familiar with the brand turbos.
• 55:53
  Service is actually Services. Actually headquartered near me
• 55:57
  in Florida so I probably won't, is this a dream going to go
• 56:03
  because like I mean, are you paying me by the hour because I
• 56:07
  supposed to come in here and set the thing up so that they would
• 56:10
  talk about the shirts and we're just talking about, have you
• 56:14
  never known an ad read before on radio?
• 56:17
  This Is How They always go. They yeah, we're about 4
• 56:19
  Leander. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 56:22
  That's well see the best part is to have a segue that completely
• 56:26
  like sucks in misses. The mark and is very obviously,
• 56:29
  a segue into Shilling, Damon two, autistic Ali discuss the
• 56:34
  the product or potential other products for about 10 to 15
• 56:38
  minute. I mean that's that's what it
• 56:39
  seems to be in most shows right? Am I yeah and by the way use
• 56:44
  promo code shmuly a check out so He's promo code Sigma, shmuly
• 56:51
  and check out. So I mean we already talked
• 56:57
  about Trump's speech. We've already talked about only
• 57:00
  a little only only briefly for me to say that I missed it.
• 57:04
  Yeah. Well, what about what was the
• 57:07
  use of music was something that I had not seen previously?
• 57:13
  He like asked everybody like kind of almost bowed their
• 57:15
  heads. People took their hats off and
• 57:17
  then like violin music came and he just started naming the
• 57:21
  problems of our country like one after another and he's like
• 57:25
  work. Country and just like, tears
• 57:27
  into it, dude. Everybody's like fucking quiet.
• 57:30
  It was just absolutely amazing. But that was from the beginning
• 57:35
  as well as they asked everybody to stand and it was the chain.
• 57:41
  You are E6 choir and Donald Trump.
• 57:46
  They started playing that. Yeah, I did not.
• 57:51
  He the speech he gave, I mean, he's given other ones, I think
• 57:56
  that are Equally as good, he gave one to the class of 2017.
• 58:03
  That's like a classic inspirational speech, right?
• 58:07
  And I think that the speech he gave towards the end of that
• 58:09
  rally is probably one of the greatest speeches.
• 58:13
  He's given up. Obviously, we all remember the
• 58:17
  Mount Rushmore speech. Yeah, that was one of the better
• 58:22
  ones as well. So I think he's back with the
• 58:25
  energy. I think that his platform is
• 58:29
  winning because quite honestly, I think he needs to talk about
• 58:33
  the fact of the things he wants to do more than even talking
• 58:37
  about, you know. The painting we face.
• 58:40
  It is. It's a beautiful vision and it's
• 58:42
  a juxtaposition. I mean, go ahead Max because
• 58:46
  this is stuff that people would have talked about in 2016 kind
• 58:49
  of in our circles, right? Like the problems with
• 58:52
  agriculture birth rates, you know he's hitting all of the
• 58:59
  points. Go ahead.
• 59:00
  Well it's I was going to say is like the primary itself is an
• 59:04
  interesting Prospect because we don't talk about this often.
• 59:09
  But the Santa's on paper doesn't differ from Trump almost on
• 59:14
  anything. And so we're literally, we're
• 59:17
  all gearing up to have a primary literally not based on any issue
• 59:22
  at all, it's based on personality and I just find that
• 59:25
  extremely interesting. Yeah, that will well, that,
• 59:28
  that's, that's right. And that's what I've been
• 59:30
  screaming about for the well, not screaming, but that's what
• 59:33
  I've been saying for the past few weeks.
• 59:36
  I don't necessarily see why people are You know, shitting on
• 59:41
  to Sanders. I mean I get they have
• 59:42
  personality differences. Well I could give you a bunch of
• 59:45
  reasons why I would shit on. I'm one of those people but they
• 59:49
  have nothing to do again with specific policy.
• 59:52
  Proposals of either him nor Trump.
• 59:54
  Yeah, yeah. Things like I was saying where
• 59:56
  he didn't come out and say hey this is not right.
• 1:00:00
  The way you know if you're gonna prosecute Trump you know I he's
• 1:00:04
  a citizen of my state. Like he could really want.
• 1:00:08
  It was such a It was a noble for him to do.
• 1:00:12
  And what did he do? Instead he went out there and
• 1:00:14
  said well I don't know anything about making payments to porn
• 1:00:17
  stars. Okay.
• 1:00:18
  So you take an attack. That's cool.
• 1:00:21
  That shows me the kind of person you are.
• 1:00:23
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:00:24
  And he has his walking it back. Many days later by giving the
• 1:00:27
  speech that he should have immediately after after polling
• 1:00:31
  came in on it, he realized that it was a bad call which is which
• 1:00:34
  is which is a problem that Ron Santos is going to have in this
• 1:00:38
  is that That he will walk back stuff that he said, and so when
• 1:00:43
  he's out there and everybody has scrutiny to him, he's not going
• 1:00:46
  to have the Trump effect. Right.
• 1:00:48
  Yeah, people people know instinctively Trump ain't
• 1:00:51
  walking his shit back for Better or For Worse.
• 1:00:54
  They at least know that about him.
• 1:00:56
  Yeah. And that's that's beautiful.
• 1:00:59
  But most of the time to be fair to Donald Trump for the vast
• 1:01:04
  majority of the time. It's kind of like He shouldn't
• 1:01:09
  have back down. Anyway, you know what I mean?
• 1:01:11
  Yeah. Like, even from a traditional
• 1:01:13
  thing, he never did anything wrong.
• 1:01:15
  You know what I mean? But, you know, I, you know,
• 1:01:18
  caution to say that like again on policy, they're not that
• 1:01:22
  different. Which is why if Ron DeSantis is
• 1:01:25
  actually a smart political operator, as people are claiming
• 1:01:28
  the he is to me, he's not going to run because it is career
• 1:01:32
  suicide. I don't care how good of a
• 1:01:34
  candidate, you think he is. You know, he is not the Combin
• 1:01:38
  that people want the a the majority of Republicans think
• 1:01:42
  that that election was stolen from.
• 1:01:44
  Right? We're not allowed to say that on
• 1:01:46
  YouTube or whatever but like people do think that's still
• 1:01:49
  just because you tell us. We can't talk about it.
• 1:01:51
  Most people think so. They think he's rightfully
• 1:01:53
  elected president now and then on top of that you know he's
• 1:01:58
  running again this is like our kind of revenge tour so to speak
• 1:02:02
  and if DeSantis is going to try and derail that then, yeah de
• 1:02:06
  facto he looks like part of Of the establishment that is out to
• 1:02:09
  get Trump, whether he is or not. Yeah.
• 1:02:12
  Well and then and I mean and smell and I have talked about
• 1:02:16
  this before to. I mean the saint is basically
• 1:02:18
  said during his re-election campaign for governor that his
• 1:02:23
  only intention for right now is to remain, you know, governor of
• 1:02:29
  Florida and really what he's clearly.
• 1:02:32
  He's clearly not being truthful with that because we see that he
• 1:02:35
  has the campaign people filling out the paperwork Exploratory
• 1:02:39
  committees, and we see these talking link, he's running like,
• 1:02:42
  like we're not stupid, right? No.
• 1:02:45
  This is the thing of, this is why I don't like Ron DeSantis in
• 1:02:49
  2024 as a candidate at all. And I think he shouldn't even
• 1:02:51
  put his hat in the fucking ring. If he's smart, if he's smart.
• 1:02:54
  But I'm not. So sure he is anymore, because
• 1:02:58
  if he does, he's forever. The the never Trump guy.
• 1:03:02
  And look Trump's not going to be our guy, like this is his last
• 1:03:05
  hurrah, we all know this, right? Yeah, be there. 20:28.
• 1:03:09
  He might not even be alive by 2032.
• 1:03:11
  He's old. So here we are, like, this is
• 1:03:15
  his last fucking chance. If you're going to be the guy to
• 1:03:17
  fucking stick, that to us, you're sticking it to the
• 1:03:19
  populist movement, that he built the one that you rode into
• 1:03:23
  office. Yeah, well, it 11 the same one
• 1:03:27
  that a few years ago was just was praising you for how you
• 1:03:30
  were handling covid and Florida, right?
• 1:03:34
  That's what I mean, they sweat that the Maga movement is what
• 1:03:37
  got him in the first place. He was Yang Maga shit.
• 1:03:41
  He handled covid the same way. I end all the people, all the,
• 1:03:45
  all the DeSantis do MERS, that criticized, Trump's handling of
• 1:03:48
  covid. How do you square it?
• 1:03:50
  With the fact that DeSantis also endorsed to the vaccine?
• 1:03:54
  Also tried to get it out as fast in to as many people as
• 1:03:57
  possible, and also said that it was safe and effective.
• 1:04:00
  So if you don't, if you don't like Trump supporting the
• 1:04:03
  vaccine, then why on Earth would you, would you endorse Rhonda
• 1:04:07
  Santa's who does this exact same position?
• 1:04:10
  Right? Which which, I mean, I, which I
• 1:04:12
  was never one of those people that criticize Trump or two
• 1:04:15
  Santa's for right right for that.
• 1:04:17
  But I, you see them all over the plate and yeah.
• 1:04:20
  Oh, you're the if you're the anti covid anti-vaccine
• 1:04:23
  anti-lock. Downer person, right?
• 1:04:26
  You, your candidate is probably not Trump or DeSantis.
• 1:04:30
  It's it's probably some obscure weirdly right.
• 1:04:34
  We could be the hippie mama from the Democrats.
• 1:04:37
  Yeah, if you Perry and Webster, I think Williamson.
• 1:04:41
  Yeah, well, you know, yeah, if you're the anti covid,
• 1:04:44
  anti-vaxxers people, neither DeSantis, nor Trump is your
• 1:04:47
  candidate, right? Because because both of them are
• 1:04:50
  going to express their record of getting the vaccine out to as
• 1:04:54
  many people People as possible, they're both going to do that
• 1:04:56
  because that's things that they both did and the things that
• 1:04:59
  they can take credit for when they were in charge.
• 1:05:02
  And yeah, they do and if you're surprised by that, you know, I
• 1:05:07
  don't know what to tell you, but I'll tell you this, if you think
• 1:05:12
  that, they Trump's handling of covid, is why you don't want to
• 1:05:14
  vote for him in 2024. Then I wouldn't vote for
• 1:05:17
  DeSantis either because he has the same position.
• 1:05:20
  Well, well that's, that's that is very dumb.
• 1:05:24
  Mission to hold their basically because combat with because
• 1:05:30
  eighty percent of Democrats, I'm sorry, 80% of Republicans have
• 1:05:33
  gotten the vaccine. Is that why it's a dumb
• 1:05:36
  position? Because, well, that's part of
• 1:05:38
  it. Well, well, show only that but
• 1:05:40
  also like covid, like, putting aside, all conspiracy theories
• 1:05:48
  and what not about, you know, the lab and whatnot, right?
• 1:05:51
  Like putting on a side covid-19 to happen.
• 1:05:54
  Ian anyway, right? So something like it.
• 1:05:58
  Yeah, for sure. Yeah, we had it's the same as
• 1:06:01
  like the bird, flu in the 1917 or whatever.
• 1:06:04
  Like well yeah, every hundred years you get a superbug, right?
• 1:06:08
  It's it's just like, I mean this might be kind of be a bad
• 1:06:12
  comparison but it's like you can't really blame George Bush
• 1:06:16
  for 9/11 per se because 9/11 was going to happen.
• 1:06:21
  Might it might have happened regardless right?
• 1:06:24
  Same thing with like covid. Like Trump just happened to be
• 1:06:28
  president then and he handled it pretty.
• 1:06:31
  Damn well thanks and he also in Folsom the former President
• 1:06:38
  Donald. Trump also said that, That
• 1:06:43
  fucking prostitute Stormy. Daniels looks like a horse.
• 1:06:48
  True she does and that was hilarious.
• 1:06:51
  I thought I was my favorite part.
• 1:06:53
  Yeah I I told Gina saying is that Trump is going to be
• 1:06:57
  looking to buy the to by the trademark.
• 1:07:00
  He said that he never cheated on the first lady and that and if
• 1:07:05
  he did that wouldn't be the one. I can tell you that wouldn't be
• 1:07:09
  the one and I just want to be clear with my de Santa stuff.
• 1:07:12
  I'm not saying if you're Italy anti-vaxxer, like we can have
• 1:07:16
  that argument, like you're entitled to that opinion.
• 1:07:19
  People can talk about it. But what I'm saying is, is if
• 1:07:22
  that meant, if that matters to you, if it's really, really
• 1:07:24
  important to. Yeah.
• 1:07:26
  Neither Trump nor DeSantis are your guy and, and that is about
• 1:07:31
  20 percent of Republicans. Unfortunately, it's also the
• 1:07:34
  very vocal, 20 percent of Republicans that you see all
• 1:07:37
  over social media. But, but again, look at the
• 1:07:40
  numbers. The number of registered,
• 1:07:42
  Republicans who actually received the vet that and when I
• 1:07:46
  say got the vaccine and not including boosters, because we
• 1:07:49
  don't even have all that data, but the first two shots. 80% of
• 1:07:53
  Republicans got the first two shots.
• 1:07:55
  Yeah. And and I'm not, and it's like
• 1:07:57
  90 percent of Democrats. Right?
• 1:07:59
  Well, what I mean, and I want to be clear, like, I mean, and I've
• 1:08:03
  said this on, I've said this on the show before and they still,
• 1:08:07
  they still banned me on YouTube for saying it, I'm not against
• 1:08:11
  the vaccine itself. Itself per se.
• 1:08:14
  What I'm against is the idea of mandating mandates.
• 1:08:18
  Yeah. Like I've been opposed to
• 1:08:20
  mandate since the beginning, and that's another like, I think
• 1:08:23
  misconception, with Trump's handling of covid, the lockdowns
• 1:08:28
  supposedly that he had he had recommended.
• 1:08:31
  And yes, he got bad Council fauci was one of the guys,
• 1:08:34
  right? We know that now but he had no
• 1:08:36
  reason at the time to be as suspicious of fauci as one might
• 1:08:41
  be today, certainly Trump. Very critical of fauci today,
• 1:08:44
  right? And he says that this guy gave
• 1:08:46
  me bad advice. However, what was the actual
• 1:08:49
  thing? It was a voluntary lockdown for
• 1:08:52
  two weeks to slow the spread, and the reasoning made perfect
• 1:08:56
  sense. At the time.
• 1:08:58
  You can, you can, you know, fucking twist it, however, you
• 1:09:01
  want. But he said, look, we don't have
• 1:09:03
  Therapeutics like, we do for the flu and we don't have a vaccine
• 1:09:06
  and we don't have much way of mitigating sick people.
• 1:09:09
  And so they were concerned that there might be a run on.
• 1:09:12
  Those two weeks is a reasonable time to see, okay, if there's
• 1:09:16
  going to be a run on hospitals by now will know it and then
• 1:09:19
  other people are minimizing the risk.
• 1:09:20
  It was all reasonable and then the two weeks was up and he
• 1:09:23
  said, you know what, we might need to extend it for a month.
• 1:09:26
  Also, a reasonable decision at that point.
• 1:09:29
  After the month that ended in, this is what people seem to
• 1:09:31
  forget. Everything from that point.
• 1:09:34
  First of all, that was all voluntary.
• 1:09:36
  There was no law. Saying you had to stay inside
• 1:09:38
  your house during that one month period.
• 1:09:40
  Right. Right.
• 1:09:40
  But more importantly than that, when it was done, it was all
• 1:09:44
  then up to the Governor's in the states and state legislatures
• 1:09:48
  and they're the ones that did all of the mandates and
• 1:09:51
  lockdowns except borrowing one. And that was the vaccine mandate
• 1:09:56
  for government employees, that was done on the federal level,
• 1:09:59
  everything else, like like this is where I Mad at the fucking at
• 1:10:04
  the covid alarmists and conspiracy theorists and
• 1:10:07
  anti-vaxxers is like you guys are mad at National politicians
• 1:10:11
  for decision. Yet your local politicians made
• 1:10:14
  well, well, and not just that but like, but like the one of
• 1:10:18
  those stay-at-home orders, we're also that you were talking
• 1:10:23
  initially we're not necessarily issued by the government per se
• 1:10:27
  but like, but like School schools and businesses were the
• 1:10:33
  Ones that were, you know, closing things down.
• 1:10:37
  And actually until States made, you know, lockdowns Yakitori,
• 1:10:41
  and then we saw like the the small business genocide unseen
• 1:10:45
  in American history. More small businesses died,
• 1:10:48
  because of those lockdowns than any decision in American history
• 1:10:52
  and and I include the fucking stock market crash.
• 1:10:55
  You know, that led to the depression in that they'd
• 1:10:57
  actually killed less small businesses than covid. yeah, I
• 1:11:02
  mean now do you think that the Do you think that the economic
• 1:11:09
  like claps we're having right now?
• 1:11:11
  Is it is a result of covid? Because I'm not, I'm not sure
• 1:11:15
  that it is, but I've been I've seen, it's a result arising that
• 1:11:19
  on Twitter. It's a result of when Biden
• 1:11:22
  received the rains. We had an economy that could
• 1:11:26
  have been fully rebuilt. So let's, let's look at, like,
• 1:11:28
  alternate reality if Trump was in office right now how would
• 1:11:33
  things have gone differently? Well, you could one expect that
• 1:11:35
  he was going to You the same economic policies he had that
• 1:11:39
  we're Ultra Successful by anybody's fucking you know
• 1:11:42
  metric. And then to you could imagine
• 1:11:45
  that he's not was not going to close the oil pipelines day one,
• 1:11:49
  right? You can imagine that he's not
• 1:11:52
  going to tell Saudi Arabia to go fuck themselves.
• 1:11:54
  If he did close down the pole oil pipeline, you could
• 1:11:58
  guarantee that the Abraham chords, which were, you know,
• 1:12:01
  partied to by every major Middle Eastern country except for Iran.
• 1:12:06
  Still, at least be fucking talked about and discussed.
• 1:12:09
  Instead of Israel going into a state of full-blown, civil war
• 1:12:12
  with the Palestinians, right again and again, if Trump is in
• 1:12:17
  office, no, I think we would be in a recovery from covid.
• 1:12:21
  Instead of what we're in, yes, it is caused by covid, but it
• 1:12:25
  was a moment of which way Western man, and the Biden.
• 1:12:28
  Ministration picked the one of harming the economy in every way
• 1:12:32
  possible. And and there's no real
• 1:12:34
  justification for closing down the oil.
• 1:12:36
  Line other than green radicalism, right?
• 1:12:41
  Radical like eco-terrorist almost mindset and a willingness
• 1:12:46
  to crash the entire economy for the goal.
• 1:12:49
  I actually do consider what the B Administration did.
• 1:12:52
  Eco-terrorism Yeah. Me too.
• 1:12:58
  I mean I still think that they have.
• 1:13:01
  I mean it's clear that the Biden hat Administration has special
• 1:13:04
  interest in Ukraine to oh yeah. And so that's why that's why I'm
• 1:13:10
  not unrelated to his son though. I'm sure.
• 1:13:13
  Yeah, God. I'm so I'm so glad we can.
• 1:13:19
  I'm glad we can actually say that.
• 1:13:20
  Now, you know, we don't have to worry about, you know.
• 1:13:26
  Yeah, speaking of that. Yeah, just smile.
• 1:13:28
  I just want to say this mild ass conversation would not be
• 1:13:31
  allowed on YouTube. No, it was this is milquetoast
• 1:13:36
  as fuck. A lot of people who are like
• 1:13:38
  more on the radical side of the, right?
• 1:13:40
  Right now are pulling their hair out at me like Max Is way too
• 1:13:44
  soft or whatever, but just keep in mind, like what we're saying
• 1:13:47
  is, too edgy for YouTube? What?
• 1:13:51
  Well, I mean, I don't understand who's pulling you in that
• 1:13:54
  direction. I mean we are sort of the
• 1:13:57
  Hardline of that specific movement.
• 1:14:00
  I mean, I hate this. This I'm going to group you.
• 1:14:02
  I'm going to group you in with, like I specifically meant the
• 1:14:07
  covid, people, right? Like, they are not going to like
• 1:14:09
  what I had to say here, but I tried to show like empathy to
• 1:14:12
  their position when I say, Like DeSantis or Trump?
• 1:14:15
  Isn't your guy? I'm not.
• 1:14:16
  I'm not saying that to belittle them, it's true, right?
• 1:14:18
  It's funny the way these guys work.
• 1:14:20
  I mean, I always just tell him I always tell them.
• 1:14:24
  That power is not a centralized as they think it is.
• 1:14:28
  And that a lot of people work together because they have a
• 1:14:31
  lining, ideologies, or motivations, and usually,
• 1:14:36
  they're going to hit me with some like, well, you didn't see
• 1:14:38
  this hard-hitting evidence and it's just like, well, if I, if I
• 1:14:44
  watch this, is it going to actually be What you claim is
• 1:14:49
  this going to be proof that you know, covid-19 meditated and
• 1:14:53
  planned and then all of a sudden they're going to walk back to
• 1:14:56
  some like no well actually was the response to it right.
• 1:15:00
  There are then going to walk back the original claim, right?
• 1:15:03
  They have no problem sitting there making wild claims but
• 1:15:06
  when asked to actually provide evidence they can and You know,
• 1:15:11
  their entire it's not a solid evidence, is they think it is
• 1:15:16
  upon any critical eye. This is a problem.
• 1:15:19
  I find with a lot of people is confirmation bias, any evidence,
• 1:15:23
  that leans towards their preferred outcome.
• 1:15:26
  They're going to accept far less critically than evidence that
• 1:15:30
  disproves it. And I, you know, not deceiving
• 1:15:36
  yourself in that way allows you to Be an Effective political
• 1:15:39
  operator. You're right.
• 1:15:42
  Well and wait Sam. You're so like our position is
• 1:15:45
  really important because like our position is okay like say
• 1:15:50
  some of the stuff they've said over the years has been true.
• 1:15:53
  The lab leak of course. We said that too.
• 1:15:56
  It's one of those things they have to put you on a binary.
• 1:15:59
  Like you're either completely anti vax or you love everything
• 1:16:02
  they did about covid and obviously that's stupid.
• 1:16:05
  But that's the, that's the situation.
• 1:16:08
  And so when they come up with something that's true, We're in
• 1:16:12
  a better position than anybody else to say, okay.
• 1:16:15
  And so, where is the harm? The provable Harmon, this, can
• 1:16:18
  we use the law to redress this grievance?
• 1:16:20
  Can we use it in the minds of the people to get a democratic
• 1:16:24
  solution, or less than Democratic one?
• 1:16:27
  Like, what can we do to redress this?
• 1:16:29
  Grievance that is actually a grievance that the fact that
• 1:16:32
  it's a lab leak, right? And now even the left, admits
• 1:16:36
  that, the fact that the lab was funded by taxpayer money, the
• 1:16:40
  fact of dr. She was up to his ankles and
• 1:16:42
  fucking a gain of function testing.
• 1:16:45
  Yeah. Like head should be rolling for
• 1:16:48
  this. What time do you sound too
• 1:16:51
  crazy? Nobody wants to have the hearing
• 1:16:54
  to get the heads, roll it? Yeah.
• 1:16:56
  Yeah. They are deceived about what
• 1:16:59
  real power is and how to engage in power.
• 1:17:02
  And instead sort of have their like Master pretory do of those
• 1:17:07
  sticking, right? And their eat at ease?
• 1:17:10
  Well, they Well, they think that like all these conspiracies,
• 1:17:14
  they think that's like, the X-Files were all these
• 1:17:16
  conspiracy were like, all these like plot or, you know, like
• 1:17:21
  plot it out and like, a smoky room with, like, a bunch of guys
• 1:17:25
  smoking cigarettes and whatnot, right?
• 1:17:28
  Yeah. It's when really, it's just all
• 1:17:31
  these different organizations. They don't need to be read the
• 1:17:36
  same books, they read the same books, they read this, they all
• 1:17:39
  read George soros's webs. This is one, I've come across a
• 1:17:42
  lot of people say, a lot of stuff about sorrows and you ask
• 1:17:45
  well, you know, have you read what he said about this issue?
• 1:17:48
  Well, like he posts all this shit publicly.
• 1:17:50
  It's not a secret and then they all RI.
• 1:17:51
  It's not like he's, he's in a smoky room like you said, giving
• 1:17:54
  out orders. He posts up.
• 1:17:56
  Okay. Today we're focused on harm
• 1:17:58
  reduction. What harm reduction means is
• 1:18:00
  giving drug paraphernalia to drug users.
• 1:18:04
  And allowing them to use drugs publicly, right?
• 1:18:07
  And so we're going to do that. And this is how you work on
• 1:18:10
  that. And if you're in this sector of
• 1:18:12
  the economy, you can help out in this way.
• 1:18:14
  And these are things that you could do to help this cause and
• 1:18:17
  then they all do those things. It wasn't an order though, it
• 1:18:21
  was. It was a, this is what if you
• 1:18:23
  care about our left-wing causes, this is how you will act, and
• 1:18:26
  they do. The right does the opposite, you
• 1:18:29
  know, and somebody gives good sound political advice in a lot
• 1:18:33
  of cases, most people on the right will reject it.
• 1:18:35
  That's why Trump stands out. Because he did the opposite of
• 1:18:39
  that. You know traditional political
• 1:18:42
  advice would be when the grabbing by to pussy tape
• 1:18:44
  dropped to drop out. You're done.
• 1:18:46
  That's it. You're over evaluating to Steve
• 1:18:49
  Bannon, it was only him and Kushner.
• 1:18:52
  And he said that everyone in the room at that moment was talking
• 1:18:56
  about how they could save the reputation of the party.
• 1:19:00
  Not not the how we can win, not how we can pull out of it, how
• 1:19:03
  we can save like this campaign. They thought that this was bad
• 1:19:06
  for the party. Well, and they put they put on
• 1:19:12
  such did. And they pretty much did that
• 1:19:15
  shit. It's interesting that you bring
• 1:19:17
  up the, you know, resign over the affair thing, right?
• 1:19:21
  Max because that's exactly what the Republican party.
• 1:19:25
  Did to my guy Herman Cain back and yes, back in 2012.
• 1:19:31
  Yeah, and he happens to be friends with Trump.
• 1:19:34
  It's weird meat. Like almost maybe.
• 1:19:36
  They might have talked about this at some point.
• 1:19:38
  Well, yeah, well and I remember I remember back in, like, Well,
• 1:19:44
  I was screaming at the Republican party for, you know,
• 1:19:50
  for basically like kicking Herman Cain out of the race
• 1:19:55
  because nobody wanted nobody wanted to see Mitt Romney and
• 1:20:00
  Barack Obama debate it. They were born early.
• 1:20:03
  Anybody else would have done better in a general election
• 1:20:06
  than Mitt Romney, right? But but the debate, the debate
• 1:20:10
  that everyone will wanted to see early on was Herman, K versus
• 1:20:16
  Barack Obama. And one of the main reasons at
• 1:20:20
  least among amongst my generation is you can't use the,
• 1:20:25
  oh, well, Obama is black. So you have to vote for him
• 1:20:29
  excuse because they were both black so that, you know, that
• 1:20:35
  gets that argument gets tossed out right away.
• 1:20:40
  So, But you know, too bad. Yeah basically I just I just
• 1:20:56
  like the way he said 9. Yeah.
• 1:20:59
  Yeah. But not the 999 plan.
• 1:21:00
  Interesting enough about that. That's the default tax free in
• 1:21:04
  SimCity think so like it's was considered when they did all the
• 1:21:09
  testing for SimCity, the the 999 is the exact percentage of taxes
• 1:21:16
  that will almost any City unless you spend yourself.
• 1:21:19
  Off into Oblivion, can survive with that tax rate with you
• 1:21:22
  never adjusting it because they knew most players would never
• 1:21:25
  adjust tax rate. They're just there to build the
• 1:21:27
  city and it's just funny that his plan is exactly that and
• 1:21:31
  it's like, well we have the simulations at least he knows
• 1:21:37
  good but who knows that some City who knew that some City
• 1:21:41
  could be real. Educational.
• 1:21:44
  Oh wait, I did. Yeah, literally anyone who ever
• 1:21:48
  played it, it's also cool because you can like have a UFO
• 1:21:51
  come and blow up your town but but also, you can learn economic
• 1:21:54
  stuff and like, bureaucratic bullshit.
• 1:21:58
  Another thing about the power of top-down stuff and we don't
• 1:22:02
  really talk about this. But the way a lot of people
• 1:22:04
  structure, it, they think there's this, like, Illuminati
• 1:22:07
  NWO, that is, like, personally controlling, right down to the
• 1:22:11
  most miniscule, level and spying on everything we do and
• 1:22:15
  completely trolling of our life maybe with a with a social
• 1:22:19
  credit score of some kind and it's amazing to me that nobody
• 1:22:22
  realizes that if that were the case we would just be China
• 1:22:27
  because that is actually what China is like You know, you
• 1:22:32
  could just mildly criticize. Yeah, he's government in end up
• 1:22:35
  getting black bagged, right? That is how China actually.
• 1:22:39
  So if we had these Psychopathic Elite that wanted to control,
• 1:22:45
  you know, when we take a shit, why would they not use the
• 1:22:48
  Chinese model directly? Instead of trying to use?
• 1:22:53
  Kind of a corporate, you know, government hybrid.
• 1:22:56
  That's far less effective. Don't, you know that they want
• 1:23:02
  to? It's just now insert like
• 1:23:06
  Constitution, if you're like a right-wing conspirator or like,
• 1:23:11
  you know, I don't know people power or something.
• 1:23:14
  If you're a left-wing conspiracy guy, right?
• 1:23:19
  Right. Yeah.
• 1:23:20
  They just can't, they can't go full China because of the
• 1:23:22
  Constitution because it stopped China from doing that when they
• 1:23:25
  had a constitution. Well and II love this whole
• 1:23:33
  thing. Now, like people, I saw this guy
• 1:23:37
  on Twitter today. I wish I had bookmarked it
• 1:23:40
  because this tweet was just whack, but it was like this one,
• 1:23:44
  random guy thinks that China is going to like, comment and
• 1:23:48
  invade the US like Red Dawn style, basically Yeah, I wish
• 1:23:55
  they would try. That would be the the the best
• 1:23:59
  scenario for us actually because that's the scenario where they
• 1:24:02
  get their ass kicked. The worst?
• 1:24:05
  Yeah. You also whole ocean away and
• 1:24:09
  like that's all, that's a long way to go.
• 1:24:11
  Just a bucket, get these nuts. Yeah.
• 1:24:15
  Just so just to find that gun behind every blade of grass.
• 1:24:18
  It seems like a like a stretch. Well, it's like ever everyone.
• 1:24:24
  Everyone wants to talk about how shit our economy is and Grant of
• 1:24:28
  we're not, we're not doing very well I admit that but relatively
• 1:24:34
  we're still the best economy in the world though, just just.
• 1:24:36
  Yeah. So people don't forget to put
• 1:24:38
  that into perspective, like our economy is still double
• 1:24:41
  everybody else's. The fact is that like Americas
• 1:24:44
  Like pretty screwed if it wasn't for the rest of the world.
• 1:24:47
  It's way, way, way way way worse off, right?
• 1:24:50
  Like like, we are screwed. The rest of the world is doomed,
• 1:24:56
  you know what I mean? Like right.
• 1:24:58
  But but it's important to remember too that like as you go
• 1:25:03
  down to a more localized level, like a lot of this shit matters
• 1:25:08
  a lot less and this is why I like the big thing to hammer
• 1:25:11
  home to people who you know, that maybe are Undecided voters
• 1:25:15
  or you know whatever is look at you know think back to your bank
• 1:25:20
  account in 2019. That's all you really got to do
• 1:25:23
  for most people what what was your finances like in 2019?
• 1:25:28
  And what are they today? And if you ask that question to
• 1:25:31
  most undecided voters, it's got that they will know the answer
• 1:25:34
  of who to vote for. Yeah, I mean, I'm worse off
• 1:25:38
  despite a pay increase same. Yeah, I I make more money and I
• 1:25:43
  am worse off. That I was in 2019.
• 1:25:46
  Yeah, I mean, you feel that every time you go to the grocery
• 1:25:49
  store, I mean, I like before work to go to like a convenience
• 1:25:53
  store Dollar General and get myself like a Coke and some
• 1:25:57
  Eminem's, right? Hmm.
• 1:25:59
  And I ring that shit up and it says like four dollars.
• 1:26:04
  And I'm looking at that. And I'm thinking to myself, I
• 1:26:06
  remember when that was 95 cents and a dollar, right?
• 1:26:11
  Yeah, I'm not an old man. You know what I mean?
• 1:26:15
  That's very troubling, right? Yeah, I know it's it's troubling
• 1:26:20
  when you go to McDonald's and I was just going to say fast food,
• 1:26:25
  it's basically double what it was in 2019 now.
• 1:26:27
  Yeah, yeah. Well, you used to be able to go
• 1:26:30
  to McDonald's and by any size beverage for dollar, right?
• 1:26:36
  So I would go in and for breakfast and, you know, on my
• 1:26:43
  way, To class and I would get like a steak McMuffin and then a
• 1:26:50
  Coke for four dollars total and a hash brown, the whole meal was
• 1:26:56
  like four dollars. Now it's like now it's $4.99 for
• 1:27:00
  the for the sandwich alone. Yeah, sounds about right,
• 1:27:05
  especially with the, the hike and egg prices, that's hit the
• 1:27:08
  market, like the factory, guys, like McDonald's, like, you know,
• 1:27:12
  they're not hit as hard. Hard, but you're still seeing
• 1:27:15
  that sandwich. If they used one egg in it,
• 1:27:17
  they're basically up charging you for the whole fucking egg.
• 1:27:20
  Like a buck and a quarter. Yeah.
• 1:27:24
  Where is the egg used to be worth like 12 cents?
• 1:27:26
  And now it's worth 10 times that.
• 1:27:28
  So they pass it on to the consumer.
• 1:27:30
  And again if you, if you remind, most people who aren't Rich
• 1:27:35
  because because people on the higher end of the economic
• 1:27:37
  spectrum, don't know a lot of this shit necessarily they have
• 1:27:42
  different problems with the economy but anybody working or
• 1:27:46
  middle class like they're going to understand that more than
• 1:27:49
  anything else. And the only thing that seems to
• 1:27:51
  override that is like the status signaling virtue signaling stuff
• 1:27:56
  because even the Democrats bitch about the economy.
• 1:27:59
  Yeah but but see that's the that's the other interesting
• 1:28:02
  thing I have, you noticed that I mean and I guess this has kind
• 1:28:06
  of always been the case, but the people who are always talking
• 1:28:12
  about the virtues signaling stuff like the Like the, you
• 1:28:16
  know, the trans rights thing in the, you know, the 51st.
• 1:28:22
  Yeah, genders. There, they're all the rich,
• 1:28:26
  like a liberal arts, you know, students and academics living in
• 1:28:33
  Manhattan who make, you know, 300,000 plus I'll say I'll say
• 1:28:39
  around here the type of people that are like that around here
• 1:28:44
  and you know, I'm a It's fairly blue.
• 1:28:47
  I'm in a red County but that doesn't matter.
• 1:28:49
  They're still we still have their liberals right and I see
• 1:28:51
  them, you know, they're at the school.
• 1:28:54
  There's a lady across the way the has a black lives matter
• 1:28:57
  sign in her yard and that's because like black people live
• 1:29:02
  in my in my gated community and so she put it out there so they
• 1:29:06
  see it as their coming and going and I'll tell you exactly what
• 1:29:09
  they think of it because we have barbecues that shit.
• 1:29:12
  We talk and they're like yeah that lady.
• 1:29:15
  Has never had a black person in her house, bet on it.
• 1:29:18
  Yeah, and she wouldn't to she'd get uncomfortable, you know?
• 1:29:22
  She would invite them over for fucking beers but she has to
• 1:29:25
  have her sign out front and those type of people they're
• 1:29:28
  like they're like middle to upper-middle class like they're
• 1:29:32
  they're not hurting for money to where it's okay for them.
• 1:29:35
  To say, let's tank the economy in order for diversity or
• 1:29:39
  whatever, because it makes me feel like a moral person.
• 1:29:42
  Yeah, meanwhile they meanwhile the actual People that they say
• 1:29:47
  they're trying to help with are the ones that are hurt the
• 1:29:49
  worst. Yes, absolutely.
• 1:29:51
  By all of their policies across the board, not not just some of
• 1:29:55
  them, right? Well, the fucking the
• 1:29:57
  anti-police policies are hurting them.
• 1:30:00
  The Criminal Justice Reform policies are hurting them.
• 1:30:02
  The welfare policies are hurting them.
• 1:30:04
  The incentives that the government gives to have a
• 1:30:07
  single-mother household, as opposed to a two-parent
• 1:30:11
  household are hurting the black family.
• 1:30:13
  All of these policies come from these middle class.
• 1:30:15
  Gasps usually women, you know usually between 35 and 50,
• 1:30:22
  right? Like we you could you could the
• 1:30:24
  soccer moms, let's face it. The soccer moms are the
• 1:30:27
  left-wing virtue signalers. There's no way around it.
• 1:30:30
  If you care about, you know, Justice Reform and whatnot which
• 1:30:33
  president asked like the most sweeping Justice Reform.
• 1:30:38
  Mixing. But second to that was Trump.
• 1:30:40
  Yeah, Donald Trump, right? And we're not talking about the
• 1:30:43
  the getting rid of all bail reform, right?
• 1:30:47
  We're talking about actual reform.
• 1:30:49
  What president had a plan to bring business into the inner
• 1:30:55
  cities, which are usually predominantly black?
• 1:30:58
  The Platinum plan and I'll tell you this.
• 1:31:01
  Black people haven't forgotten about the Platinum plan, and
• 1:31:03
  again, I'm going to, I'm going to make this prediction and if,
• 1:31:07
  if I eat I words, you know, so be it but say Trump wins the
• 1:31:11
  primary goes up against Biden. That's what I think he's going
• 1:31:14
  to happen, right? Biden.
• 1:31:16
  Seems intent on running and there's not much they could do
• 1:31:19
  to stop him besides like ruining his reputation from the left,
• 1:31:23
  but say that happens. I'm going to make the estimation
• 1:31:28
  that Donald Trump in 2016. Got eight percent of the black
• 1:31:31
  vote in 2020. He got 18 percent of the black
• 1:31:36
  vote. I imagine it's going to be
• 1:31:39
  closer to 23 or 24 percent for 2024 and it specifically because
• 1:31:44
  so many of them remember a, I had more money in 2019 and be
• 1:31:48
  the Platinum plan, they remember that you'll see them talk.
• 1:31:52
  If you go on black Twitter, you'll see them talking about
• 1:31:54
  the Platinum plan all the time and how it was a better deal
• 1:31:57
  than what? Biden Biden's.
• 1:31:58
  Build back better, has not been a good deal for the black
• 1:32:01
  community. Yeah, well, 11 also to, I mean,
• 1:32:05
  because I go in Black Twitter, Want to buy tens.
• 1:32:09
  The one B is, the one that is really like forcing more of the
• 1:32:15
  vax, more like the pro-vaccine propaganda on people which
• 1:32:21
  without without any respect to their their history with Force.
• 1:32:25
  Try scenes. Yeah, right.
• 1:32:26
  Yeah, exactly pointed. That out from the beginning is
• 1:32:29
  like if there's any community in this country that has a pretty
• 1:32:33
  solid reasoning for saying I don't want to just stick a
• 1:32:36
  needle in my arm because the Comment it says so it's the
• 1:32:39
  black community because the Tuskegee experiment is still in
• 1:32:42
  living memory. Like, you could say to a young
• 1:32:46
  black kid today. You know, your great-grandfather
• 1:32:50
  died from this, right? Like that it's in living memory,
• 1:32:54
  it's not that far in the history, right?
• 1:32:57
  And to completely like ignore that no it's completely
• 1:33:00
  reasonable for them to have been skeptical about this and it was
• 1:33:03
  your job to sell them on it and instead of doing that, you put
• 1:33:06
  these mandates in place. I don't know.
• 1:33:10
  God, I can't think of his name. There's a young black guy who
• 1:33:14
  was an actor in The Broadway scene.
• 1:33:16
  He actually had Mr Met occur on his podcast and a couple months
• 1:33:20
  ago and he talks about. Yeah yeah yeah.
• 1:33:27
  One of the guys who I would like to try and get on, I think that
• 1:33:32
  would be interesting because his takes on the entertainment
• 1:33:36
  industry and the Action to covid in New York, in particular, I
• 1:33:41
  mean, he's as Insider as it gets for that.
• 1:33:43
  So well, and, and, and he also talks a lot about how
• 1:33:48
  affirmative action both gave him his career but also fucked him.
• 1:33:53
  Because yeah, I mean and I mean I've actually talked to I've
• 1:33:58
  actually talked to actors you know, because I have friends who
• 1:34:01
  are New York and yeah they've told me about that stuff and But
• 1:34:07
  the thing of it is, is none of them want to come on this show
• 1:34:12
  because no, he's speaks for a lot of people that, you know, he
• 1:34:17
  comes out because he's already blacklisted, right?
• 1:34:20
  And the thing is, if you're in that system, let's say you
• 1:34:23
  dedicated your life to being an actor, you went to school for
• 1:34:26
  it. You've had, you know, 20 years
• 1:34:28
  or not even an actor, right. Maybe you're you do the fucking
• 1:34:31
  lights or whatever and you agree with him, but you still work
• 1:34:35
  there, you can't say it. Right?
• 1:34:38
  So it's good to have somebody like him speaking up on behalf
• 1:34:42
  of these issues because know, not everybody in Show Business
• 1:34:45
  is a raging leftist. The problem is if you're not you
• 1:34:49
  have to hide it. Yeah but bench here I actually
• 1:34:53
  wrote a pretty good book on that like before he got super famous
• 1:35:02
  I think I think it's like called Prime.
• 1:35:04
  Oh yeah, it's called Primetime propaganda and It's he went it
• 1:35:09
  was his store of like how he tried to basically become like
• 1:35:14
  an actor. Or now, I think a screenwriter
• 1:35:17
  and they want to reject him. Not because he was Jewish, but
• 1:35:23
  because he was an orthodox Jew and also because he's
• 1:35:26
  conservative Yes, no. Yeah.
• 1:35:31
  And and we see what happens when when actors come out with with
• 1:35:36
  any right-leaning beliefs Dean Cain has a harder time finding
• 1:35:40
  work than he used to, what's her face.
• 1:35:44
  Got fired from the the the Star Wars show the Mandalorian there
• 1:35:48
  Gina Carano. Yeah.
• 1:35:50
  So yeah, it's obvious. What happens?
• 1:35:52
  Or even even less? For things I was, I was actually
• 1:35:55
  talking about this with shmuly not that long ago where you got
• 1:35:58
  a guy like Like Woody Harrelson, who is it?
• 1:36:01
  He's a left-leaning and cap right and he always has been and
• 1:36:06
  he's been very vocal about that. There's a great interview with
• 1:36:09
  him talking about his and Cat beliefs in relation to the
• 1:36:12
  Hunger Games films, which he was in and and literally
• 1:36:16
  eviscerating, communism in this in this thing.
• 1:36:20
  So they were shocked that this guy who is an ancap would get on
• 1:36:24
  Saturday Night Live in comment about, you know, locked down.
• 1:36:29
  Ons or mask mandates because how dare you?
• 1:36:31
  This is the sacred Halls of Hollywood.
• 1:36:34
  You're not allowed to have that opinion.
• 1:36:37
  Yeah. Well like in the West Wing in
• 1:36:40
  cap is a pretty safe position in modern society because everybody
• 1:36:44
  thinks it's weird but nobody takes you seriously politically,
• 1:36:47
  right? So you could be a left-wing in
• 1:36:50
  cap and Beyond The Libertines side of things and leftist will
• 1:36:54
  usually leave you alone but he made the mistake, he spoke up
• 1:36:57
  against the current thing. You know the covid
• 1:37:00
  establishment, the coat, the Church of covid as he as it were
• 1:37:03
  we'll have you noticed that like bilberry.
• 1:37:06
  I used to kind of be like semi like I wouldn't say was Floyd
• 1:37:11
  base but used to make fun of the woke stuff.
• 1:37:14
  Right? And then he and then he got on
• 1:37:17
  Netflix and started to like bow down to me.
• 1:37:24
  Yeah, that stuff. Yeah, I think I think that's
• 1:37:29
  what they were hoping for with Dave Chappelle.
• 1:37:32
  But Dave Chappelle draws too much money for them to just
• 1:37:35
  straight up drop him so they can't.
• 1:37:36
  Really bully Chappell. But Chappelle's another one
• 1:37:40
  right? Chappelle has some very
• 1:37:41
  unpeaceful beliefs and Chappelle is absolutely a leftist.
• 1:37:44
  He's like a neoliberal. Yeah.
• 1:37:48
  But that's it's a step too far now, right?
• 1:37:52
  Yeah. Well I mean say well I mean same
• 1:37:56
  thing I think I think the only reason why Chris Rock was
• 1:38:01
  allowed to get away with some of the shit that he got away with
• 1:38:04
  was because of the Will Smith. And today, I think they kind of
• 1:38:09
  gave him carte blanche to do what he wanted, because that
• 1:38:14
  incident. But, but had he not had that
• 1:38:18
  slap not happened. I don't think you wouldn't be
• 1:38:21
  able to make those jokes that he did.
• 1:38:23
  I haven't, I have another theory regarding him.
• 1:38:27
  It's in the same vein. So, like Rob Schneider right.
• 1:38:31
  Everybody, you know, famously in all the Adam Sandler flicks.
• 1:38:34
  Good friends with Adam Sandler. Yeah, baby.
• 1:38:37
  Chris Rock, Kevin Hart is in this group, you know, it's a
• 1:38:43
  group of guys that have been together in Hollywood doing
• 1:38:46
  comedy since SNL in the 80s and 90s, right?
• 1:38:49
  And they know each other really well.
• 1:38:51
  And I have a sneaking suspicion that Rob Schneider who came out
• 1:38:56
  as a conservative leaning libertarian, you know, like a
• 1:39:00
  Rand Paul kind of guy, I have a feeling he represents a lot of
• 1:39:04
  them. Yeah.
• 1:39:06
  Because because About Adam Sandler that people might not
• 1:39:08
  know. He's dropped completely out of
• 1:39:10
  the Hollywood scene. He does movies specifically and
• 1:39:13
  exclusively for Netflix now. So that he doesn't have to work
• 1:39:16
  in Hollywood. Now he's never said it had
• 1:39:18
  anything to do with politics but it's a reasonable suspicion that
• 1:39:22
  if Rob Schneider, is this strong on on politics, and if Chris
• 1:39:27
  Rock feels as strongly, as he does about cancel culture, the
• 1:39:30
  idea that David Spade and, and all of these other guys, Kevin
• 1:39:34
  Smith and, and on, and on, and on.
• 1:39:37
  Don all those guys have a similar belief, system is not
• 1:39:40
  actually that far fetched and it would make sense why we don't
• 1:39:42
  know that they do because they're yes route to hide it.
• 1:39:47
  Well it's funny. We're talking about like
• 1:39:49
  podcasting it, you know like my anniversary of pod has like
• 1:39:53
  wanting one of the podcast. I discovered early on I love
• 1:39:57
  like around 2010, when YouTube started kinda doing podcast was
• 1:40:02
  Norma Katana live. Yeah Norma Donald.
• 1:40:07
  Live like Norm Norm was one of those people who was also like,
• 1:40:13
  conservative libertarian ish. I mean he he out-and-out
• 1:40:16
  admitted on The View in the 90s that he that he liked that, he
• 1:40:22
  like George Bush and said that he was a swell.
• 1:40:27
  A swell guy. He got, he got booed well as
• 1:40:31
  opposed to the murderer. Well yeah.
• 1:40:35
  Well yeah he just wanted to get the murder.
• 1:40:39
  Yeah I think I think the thing with Norm Macdonald is he's so
• 1:40:43
  prolific as a writer and he's so funny that they were willing to
• 1:40:49
  let him be the token conservative guy because you
• 1:40:52
  look at it like this you know people think ignore McDonald and
• 1:40:55
  they'll talk about his stand up till they're blue in the face
• 1:40:58
  but he was a head writer for Roseanne.
• 1:41:00
  He was the head writer for I Don't, I don't want to give him
• 1:41:04
  credit for a bunch of shows that he didn't write.
• 1:41:05
  But I know he wrote a lot of the of the more popular TV shows in
• 1:41:10
  the 90s and oh, he thousands. He was he was the head while
• 1:41:15
  back when back when Dennis Miller did Weekend Update like a
• 1:41:19
  lot of those jokes that dentist did in the 80s were actually
• 1:41:23
  Norms Cho jokes. Yeah which is why he stepped
• 1:41:27
  into the chair afterwards and is probably the most iconic in that
• 1:41:31
  role. He's the first one anyone.
• 1:41:33
  So, with Weekend Update, which man like imagine surpassing
• 1:41:37
  Dennis Miller in that role, but he definitely did in the minds
• 1:41:40
  of most people. Yeah, but him and Dennis Miller.
• 1:41:44
  Again, Dennis Miller is another one that was very prolific,
• 1:41:47
  right? And I think that's why they got
• 1:41:51
  a pass as they were allowed to be the token conserve that
• 1:41:53
  you're not allowed to be token conservative anymore, though.
• 1:41:55
  Well yeah we used to be well and and Dennis and I could even
• 1:42:01
  probably get someone To email them like the thing that that
• 1:42:05
  too is like Dennis isn't even like all that right-wing.
• 1:42:08
  Dennis is pretty much like straight libertarian basically,
• 1:42:12
  where he's like, but can be, you can basically fuck.
• 1:42:17
  You can basically fuck anyone who you who you want to, if
• 1:42:20
  you're an adult and it's not any my business.
• 1:42:23
  And if you want to do, you know, if you want to smoke pot?
• 1:42:27
  That's fine. Just, I can't, I can't believe
• 1:42:30
  that's your opinion, dude. Like I don't know if I can
• 1:42:33
  answering out with you anymore. Like that that was your opinion
• 1:42:37
  dude I don't know if I can help you with the show Live and Let
• 1:42:41
  Live what the fuck. Hell yeah.
• 1:42:45
  We live in the web. That's a little too.
• 1:42:48
  But yeah. That's like that's the
• 1:42:49
  equivalent of being right wing in the entertainment industry.
• 1:42:54
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:42:56
  It in there allowed. Notice now though, I've seen
• 1:43:00
  attacks on Adam Sandler, I've seen attacks on Chris Rock.
• 1:43:03
  I've seen a tax on all Love those guys because Rob Schneider
• 1:43:09
  came out on Fox News and now he does recurring guest spots on
• 1:43:13
  there. Like, everybody else is making
• 1:43:16
  the same assumption. I am that they probably share.
• 1:43:20
  I will say this. I don't think Chris Rock, Adam
• 1:43:22
  Sandler, and Rob Schneider have the same exact politics, but I
• 1:43:26
  bet you they're in a similar spot on the Spectrum.
• 1:43:31
  Yeah, well, I mean, and I don't even know if I don't even know
• 1:43:35
  if like, they, if they're all like hardcore, you know,
• 1:43:38
  conserve either. But like I put like, I think, I
• 1:43:41
  think you're onto something there.
• 1:43:43
  I think they're not very political, but they know that
• 1:43:46
  the politics they do have are outside the mainstream and
• 1:43:49
  that's why they work outside of mainstream Hollywood now.
• 1:43:51
  Well, well, then the other thing too, and and we saw this with
• 1:43:55
  Ricky Gervais to wear like well, how we even saw this with Jerry
• 1:44:02
  Seinfeld work, people are so offended by comedy that the
• 1:44:06
  Jerry Jerry Jerry Seinfeld, whose Connie is essentially
• 1:44:15
  meant laundry, in like socks, in the most milquetoast mundane,
• 1:44:20
  then he can't perform at college campuses anymore because because
• 1:44:27
  leave it there is to God. Fine.
• 1:44:31
  Yeah, I can imagine. No have signs that say Seinfeld
• 1:44:33
  was a Nazi. Right, well, like I'll do it
• 1:44:35
  without a hint of irony has Garfield been cancelled yet.
• 1:44:42
  Dilbert is now like the fucking Menace of white supremacy.
• 1:44:46
  So instead of saying like like are we to the point where
• 1:44:51
  Garfield is to educate Youth Camp Garfield?
• 1:44:54
  Well, yeah, because bash end of the day them's, okay.
• 1:45:02
  Think of the things that once we got it, we got abated, your
• 1:45:04
  music. We gotta bail your stuff.
• 1:45:06
  You know, won't somebody think of the baby items?
• 1:45:09
  Won't somebody think of the zoom users?
• 1:45:12
  You know, what's funny about the pronoun thing?
• 1:45:14
  This is something I haven't talked about but since we're
• 1:45:16
  talking about broadcasting for a long time, so when I was in
• 1:45:20
  terrestrial radio like actual, you know, radio Clear, Channel,
• 1:45:24
  Communications and all that one of the things that they be into
• 1:45:28
  you is not using pronouns as much as possible in the reason
• 1:45:34
  for that is is because it makes a sentence very murky when
• 1:45:37
  you're trying to express something only through audio,
• 1:45:40
  right? So like if I say well he said to
• 1:45:44
  him that she said to her you know like like it makes it muddy
• 1:45:49
  and you don't know necessarily who I'm talking about.
• 1:45:52
  So like the traditional like mainstream media, you know,
• 1:45:55
  thing to hammer home in to you from like 101 class level is
• 1:45:59
  pronouns, right? Don't use pronouns use proper
• 1:46:01
  names because if you use a proper name suddenly well Sam
• 1:46:05
  shed to shmuly makes a lot more sense than he said to him,
• 1:46:08
  right? And then to hear pronouns come
• 1:46:12
  up in like mainstream like National discourse, all I can
• 1:46:17
  hear is my old general manager from the radio station yelling
• 1:46:20
  in my headset. Pronouns, come on.
• 1:46:26
  Really, really so they so they were even against pronouns, then
• 1:46:29
  is what you're saying? Yeah.
• 1:46:31
  Because because it's there, so vague in the contact.
• 1:46:35
  Another one. Vince McMahon is actually famous
• 1:46:38
  for the same thing yelling in his commentators ears.
• 1:46:40
  Pronouns pal. It's actually like a meme of
• 1:46:43
  Vince McMahon and it's the same reasoning.
• 1:46:46
  If you say, oh, he just gave him a pile driver.
• 1:46:49
  Will you know, if you're just listening and not watching, you
• 1:46:52
  don't know which one gave Which one the Piledriver right there.
• 1:46:55
  Both, he oh. Oh yeah.
• 1:46:57
  That meant well, that makes sense, at least.
• 1:47:00
  Yeah, no. It's a very practical thing to
• 1:47:04
  say. Don't use pronouns use proper
• 1:47:06
  names so that people don't get confused when they're listening
• 1:47:09
  to you. But then to hear the thing is,
• 1:47:13
  is now they want you to use more pronouns.
• 1:47:15
  They want you to use new made up pronouns and that to me, it's
• 1:47:19
  like, going against the cardinal sin because it makes everything
• 1:47:21
  more confusing. Yeah.
• 1:47:23
  Well, It was well liked some of these m games are a fucking pile
• 1:47:27
  driver, bro. Well them, I mean think about
• 1:47:30
  you've got, they them. I mean there's multiple.
• 1:47:34
  Yeah, yeah, well again the Piledriver examples, perfect for
• 1:47:37
  this they gave him a pile driver.
• 1:47:40
  Wait, so there was two people in the match against him.
• 1:47:43
  What's going on? Yeah.
• 1:47:49
  No pronouns are actually like immensely important to English
• 1:47:55
  as a language in how we communicate casually with each
• 1:47:58
  other. And that's why the left is
• 1:47:59
  focused on it because, well, I do that thing about thing about,
• 1:48:02
  how it's affected Sam, right? Like because Sam he can't see.
• 1:48:06
  And so like somebody comes up, they speak in a deep voice he
• 1:48:11
  says him. And they go oh you missed, you
• 1:48:13
  know, pronoun be That's why he's in a wheelchair.
• 1:48:18
  Yeah, he's in a wheelchair because he can't see
• 1:48:20
  motherfucker. Well, no, he got, you know, he
• 1:48:23
  mispronounced somebody. Now, he's in a wheelchair
• 1:48:26
  through Modern. Well, well, I mean in all
• 1:48:33
  seriousness, that thing got think got this like, Inglot.
• 1:48:37
  What English is the only language where this where this
• 1:48:42
  gender shit really exist? Like it doesn't really exist in
• 1:48:46
  any of the Latin languages at all in fact because they're
• 1:48:51
  gendered but that's that's the thing.
• 1:48:52
  Is they try these. These people are so up their own
• 1:48:55
  ass and think they're the center of the goddamn universe that
• 1:48:58
  they want to change Spanish. They want to change, you know, I
• 1:49:02
  haven't seen them. Go on any other romance
• 1:49:04
  languages, but I have seen them say to People to stop using
• 1:49:08
  gendered language and it's like, bro, then they can't talk.
• 1:49:12
  What are you doing? You think they would ever say
• 1:49:14
  that? The Portuguese speakers?
• 1:49:16
  I'm not so convinced. Yeah.
• 1:49:18
  I know what? No, like, I actually so I have
• 1:49:21
  a, I have a neighbor who came over here from Cuba, right?
• 1:49:25
  And he's probably in his, he's probably in his 50s now, but he,
• 1:49:30
  he like, he asked me just the other day.
• 1:49:33
  He's like, he's like set. He's like, he's like, hey man,
• 1:49:39
  can you explain this this gender-neutral language or
• 1:49:42
  whatever? Whatever the fuck and I'm like,
• 1:49:46
  was is like, well, my, my daughter came home from college
• 1:49:50
  and like, she started to explain all this.
• 1:49:52
  Like, they them. Stephen it making it make no
• 1:49:57
  sense to me, man. Because we speak with, you know,
• 1:50:02
  With you know proud with like he ham and she her you know so I'm
• 1:50:09
  not not only that like Words themselves have gender in right?
• 1:50:13
  Yeah yeah it's like everything is gendered and it has nothing
• 1:50:16
  to do with you. It's fucking genitals because
• 1:50:18
  obviously the store doesn't have a dick or a pussy.
• 1:50:22
  It's a store but it's somehow its masculine.
• 1:50:25
  What are you gonna do? Right, it's just somebody
• 1:50:30
  arbitrarily decided that and that's the language that
• 1:50:32
  everybody speaks and if you ask them to change it all unlike us
• 1:50:36
  some, you know Americans. Yeah.
• 1:50:38
  Look white. People were really, we really
• 1:50:41
  don't want to hurt people's feelings as a general rule will.
• 1:50:45
  We're, we're more than willing to do something that seems
• 1:50:48
  reasonable to not hurt. Somebody else's feelings, but
• 1:50:53
  that's not true of every group of people, for sure.
• 1:50:58
  What was it be directed them. Trying to push this stuff on the
• 1:51:01
  Chinese it just they just won't get very far.
• 1:51:06
  Yeah that Chinese, they freaking sensor black people out of movie
• 1:51:10
  posters and shit. Yeah, I know the intro and then
• 1:51:15
  try any of this shit in the Middle Eastern.
• 1:51:17
  You'll just go, you'll just get a fucking bear head.
• 1:51:21
  For God like, dude. like I don't have enough money to go there
• 1:51:27
  like stop, like don't say stuff like that in front of me because
• 1:51:32
  I mean, it just makes me want to spend money on a plane ticket.
• 1:51:34
  I just don't have the money for, you know, Well, I mean, where,
• 1:51:41
  where would you want to go in the middle?
• 1:51:42
  Is that? That's the million-dollar
• 1:51:44
  question. I haven't.
• 1:51:46
  You just said, I'm a good just step away for a moment.
• 1:51:49
  I shall return. You know.
• 1:51:56
  All right, let's not linger on the joke.
• 1:51:58
  Let's not have dead air go. Yeah, so is this all this all
• 1:52:07
  came back? This all kind of circles back
• 1:52:10
  to. I'm going to circle back just
• 1:52:12
  like Jen saki. No we're going to circle back.
• 1:52:19
  to, I mean, all this shit is Basically, I think going to make
• 1:52:26
  it so that Trump wins in a landslide.
• 1:52:30
  Okay? I mean, I mean, that's, that's
• 1:52:33
  what you wrote, that's what you're only needs to do, right?
• 1:52:36
  He needs to win in a landslide. I mean, we're going to be seen.
• 1:52:40
  I mean, he received more votes the second time that he did the
• 1:52:44
  first time. And so one could say and that
• 1:52:49
  that Trend might continue. The, the problem is that the,
• 1:52:52
  the Democrats received more votes than they did last time,
• 1:52:55
  and you can say what you want, but I think a substantial number
• 1:52:59
  of people did go out and vote for him.
• 1:53:02
  Oh yeah, for sure. You know.
• 1:53:05
  Who knows how much fraud there really was or whatever.
• 1:53:08
  It's, you know, you have a high, the low estimate.
• 1:53:12
  It's kind of one of those things where to catch it all would be
• 1:53:16
  unlikely, right? So any amount of it that you
• 1:53:19
  would catch, you know would be a subset of it for sure.
• 1:53:23
  Well, well the thing is, the thing is Republicans did make
• 1:53:27
  the mistake of not voting by mail like they should.
• 1:53:31
  Yeah. Yeah, look, man.
• 1:53:34
  You know. Anyway, that's within love you
• 1:53:37
  can You know, further your aims, you should take and oh yeah, oh
• 1:53:46
  I don't know the election rules for all the states but hey, I
• 1:53:49
  mean if you got a paper ballot, go encourage make sure that your
• 1:53:53
  family members are doing it, you know, don't do it for em,
• 1:53:56
  they'll be illegal but, you know.
• 1:53:58
  Yeah. So remind everybody, hey, it's
• 1:54:00
  on the counter whatever. You know, do your little part go
• 1:54:04
  and go to the polling place, volunteer.
• 1:54:08
  If they try to kick you out, Refuse to man.
• 1:54:10
  The sheriff, you know, like having someone there that has
• 1:54:13
  courage as willing to actually do something to further their
• 1:54:18
  goals, it's going to be a lot better because the way most
• 1:54:21
  people interact with power. The way they interact with
• 1:54:24
  politics. It's it's equivalent to like
• 1:54:27
  what porn is two sacks, you know, that's what you are to
• 1:54:30
  real power. I like most of its most of its
• 1:54:36
  door knocking. Most of it's slow.
• 1:54:38
  Most of it is the long game, but that's how you have to.
• 1:54:43
  That's what you have to do. You have to give up these
• 1:54:47
  Ridiculous childish things. Well, Rio you gotta get serious.
• 1:54:53
  Well, what? Well, well, one of the things I
• 1:54:56
  was doing a lot of during the 2020 election was, I wasn't door
• 1:55:00
  knocking, but I was caught, I did call, you know, people and
• 1:55:05
  remind them to vote. So I did door knocking, bro.
• 1:55:10
  Yeah, you know what I mean? I work for the campaign.
• 1:55:14
  I work to further the campaign schools because I believe in it,
• 1:55:18
  and I still do Yeah. Well, you know, well that
• 1:55:26
  sometimes me so good, sometimes it ain't so bad.
• 1:55:30
  You know? Well, that is one thing that
• 1:55:32
  pisses me off about the about the, about the huge hards is the
• 1:55:39
  Q Towers were. The ones saying that your vote
• 1:55:41
  doesn't matter, because all of the, all of the machines are
• 1:55:46
  rigged. Anyway, so why bother and it's
• 1:55:48
  like, That's, that's a defeatist attitude.
• 1:55:54
  So, And also how it's trusting in the plan worked out for you.
• 1:56:01
  Yeah yeah. I mean I just don't believe in
• 1:56:05
  ridiculous stuff and I mean to a degree it's like I don't blame
• 1:56:10
  individuals for it so much but like ultimately your problem
• 1:56:16
  ultimately you're my political enemy.
• 1:56:18
  If you're just going to believe and wild nonsense, they can't be
• 1:56:22
  verified. There's no way that I won't end
• 1:56:25
  up. Opposing you in some manner
• 1:56:27
  because You're just not speaking the truth, you're just being
• 1:56:34
  coherent and that's harmful to my ends, right inherently?
• 1:56:39
  Yeah, well, well that well that's just it like if If q, and
• 1:56:45
  I'm like, had any evidence for any of what they claim then why?
• 1:56:51
  Then why not just bring it up, right?
• 1:56:54
  It's yeah, it's just, it's a, it's a never-ending clusterfuck
• 1:56:58
  of, you know, I just can't really put that to the side.
• 1:57:01
  If that is, your like Hill to die on, you know, if you still
• 1:57:04
  believe in that to that degree of, you know, we really can't do
• 1:57:10
  much together. Yeah, I know.
• 1:57:13
  I mean I I mean, like, honestly, I think, I think, you know,
• 1:57:20
  pretty much like the mag movement has purged like a lot
• 1:57:23
  of those people and rightly. So because I mean, there are
• 1:57:28
  minority of people, luckily, but I just, I encounter these people
• 1:57:32
  because I want in online spaces, right?
• 1:57:35
  I know. Yeah, it's conspiracy people.
• 1:57:37
  Yeah, and just their logic is flawed.
• 1:57:40
  It's like, ultimately if I got my way, right, if we had a bunch
• 1:57:43
  of sovereign institutions, That are fact checking and go over
• 1:57:49
  each other's content Studio. Like an actual Marketplace of
• 1:57:51
  ideas. You those kind of people are
• 1:57:54
  alternate Lee going to be at odds with me because I am not
• 1:57:59
  going to believe in their unsubstantiated bullshit, right.
• 1:58:02
  Yeah. Like at the end of the day, if I
• 1:58:05
  get my way in my ideal world, you would just call me part of
• 1:58:11
  the conspiracy, right? Yeah, well well yeah, and I used
• 1:58:16
  to be called that a bunch actually like I like I've I've
• 1:58:24
  been accused of being a part of the conspiracy because I like
• 1:58:29
  have no I'm not. I'm not an idiot.
• 1:58:33
  I speak somewhat eloquently. Yeah.
• 1:58:36
  So, but but I mean, another part of this whole thing is I think
• 1:58:39
  like a lot of those conspiracy theorists, I think they say, Say
• 1:58:44
  a lot of should to not necessarily because they believe
• 1:58:47
  in all of it but also. But mostly because they just
• 1:58:52
  want to get attention, right? Because we're no longer allowed
• 1:58:56
  on social media. Just have conversations in order
• 1:58:59
  to in order to get traction. Okay everyone needs to say
• 1:59:04
  something like outrageous so I got you.
• 1:59:08
  Yeah I mean they always walk it back you know they're always
• 1:59:11
  like oh well here's some evidence and if It's like okay
• 1:59:14
  before I click on this, like this is a nonsense, this is
• 1:59:17
  actually evidence of what you said and it never is enough.
• 1:59:21
  Well well the well there will be a well and a lot of a lot of
• 1:59:28
  these times on these. Unlike these conspiracy theory
• 1:59:31
  News website websites, it'll be like, is jit like a perfect
• 1:59:38
  example would be like, is JFK jr.
• 1:59:40
  Still Still Alive at, you know, When Mark and that's the
• 1:59:44
  headline, you click on that scroll to the bottom turns out
• 1:59:50
  that he isn't alive. But we just got used to read
• 1:59:53
  this whole article. You know, for ad Revenue.
• 1:59:58
  So yeah, And that's that's wrong with like clickbait articles.
• 2:00:04
  So yeah. Well it's the Tim pool problem,
• 2:00:08
  right? It's like ultimately you're my
• 2:00:09
  enemy because I'm trying to do stuff that's real.
• 2:00:12
  I'm trying to give us a path to like gain political power
• 2:00:15
  achieve things and if you're walking around talking about, no
• 2:00:19
  one's heads, your discrediting. What I believe in, right?
• 2:00:23
  You're making us uncool. Right.
• 2:00:28
  So I ultimately that's that's why these people are my enemy.
• 2:00:32
  There's no way around it. I wish it wasn't the gays,
• 2:00:34
  right? Yeah. so, Oh, okay, well II.
• 2:00:48
  Just I just got DM from. I Apex that he I guess his
• 2:00:54
  computer isn't working and he can't use melon on his phone so
• 2:01:01
  he won't. Unfortunately, he won't be
• 2:01:04
  coming but I think he is watching but we'll get you on at
• 2:01:08
  some other time Apex hopefully so I've been keeping an eye on.
• 2:01:14
  There's been at least 30 people. Watching through most of the
• 2:01:17
  show tonight on Rumble at least. Yeah, over here, thanks to
• 2:01:22
  everybody who's come out to support the show, but we able to
• 2:01:27
  hear my point about the conspiracy.
• 2:01:29
  People ultimately being my enemy I was.
• 2:01:37
  I am I had stepped away for that but I could imagine.
• 2:01:41
  I know why? Yeah, I mean ultimately at the
• 2:01:44
  end of the day if I got my way and there's a bunch of different
• 2:01:47
  institutions that are sovereign that are not like just being
• 2:01:51
  torn down by the world. Bob, they're going to come to
• 2:01:54
  the conclusion that these conspiracy Tarts are wrong.
• 2:02:00
  And then they're going to say that it's all part of the
• 2:02:03
  conspiracy and that I am a conspirator of like the new
• 2:02:06
  world order. Whatever.
• 2:02:07
  Right. Right.
• 2:02:08
  Inevitably if we take power that's that's gonna happen.
• 2:02:13
  Yeah. Even if yeah even the softest of
• 2:02:15
  soft power. Yeah yeah I would also argue
• 2:02:18
  that my my thing with the conspiracy theory stuff and like
• 2:02:21
  the Nick Fuentes side of things like the the anti-Semitism and
• 2:02:25
  shit it's literally a Minefield to get young conservative.
• 2:02:29
  Active leaving men off of the battlefield because if you get
• 2:02:33
  too heavy into conspiracy shit, you know, you might think you
• 2:02:37
  sound really reasonable. But everybody, talking to you
• 2:02:39
  doesn't, and they are very aware of this likewise, with the
• 2:02:43
  anti-Semitism stuff, no matter how reasonable it sounds to you.
• 2:02:47
  The first time you try and give that speech, about why you
• 2:02:50
  should hate Jews to like ignore me.
• 2:02:52
  They're not going to respond well to it.
• 2:02:54
  And it does take you from being maybe 18, Maybe.
• 2:02:59
  Even as young as 15, some of these kids and you are now off
• 2:03:05
  the playing field, but you are more political than you've ever
• 2:03:08
  been in your life. And this is why it ends to bad
• 2:03:11
  results. So off top, I am sorry to
• 2:03:13
  interrupt but we have a we have a very special guest or oh he
• 2:03:22
  just disappeared. But maybe he'll come back on.
• 2:03:26
  We have we had a special guest popping and and oh, there he is.
• 2:03:35
  Oh he's real ladies. And ladies apron on is it has in
• 2:03:41
  the room with us right now and that would be funnier if I just
• 2:03:50
  kept popping in and leaving before he could pull me in it.
• 2:03:55
  Sammy's but make-believe friend. Hi buddy.
• 2:03:58
  And doing guys. Hi, how are you doing long time?
• 2:04:03
  No see well long time. No chat but yeah I'm doing okay
• 2:04:08
  man. Just keep my head above water.
• 2:04:12
  Are you guys been doing great work in my absence?
• 2:04:15
  I'm happy to see it back. Yeah, it's weird that I took a
• 2:04:21
  Hiatus and then YouTube is like, or whoever was was like, yeah.
• 2:04:26
  You know, what Sammy has been on YouTube for 14 years.
• 2:04:29
  Let's let's get him out of here. Now I was just I was just
• 2:04:33
  commenting like the kind of like really milquetoast, covid
• 2:04:37
  conversation, we had earlier which didn't endorse any quote,
• 2:04:41
  unquote misinformation would still have been not, okay.
• 2:04:44
  Like I feel like it's really free to stop like the
• 2:04:47
  conversation. Ins would not having to worry
• 2:04:49
  about that. Have been a lot more fruitful I
• 2:04:52
  think. Yeah.
• 2:04:53
  What up, what I found most interesting about that is I mean
• 2:04:58
  Sammy knows better than anybody or at least as well as anybody
• 2:05:02
  that. I mean I had no filter on the
• 2:05:06
  the covid conversation or many other things from the In the
• 2:05:10
  Heat of it we got through two years of almost every show
• 2:05:15
  talking shit about the vaccines and The masks and everything
• 2:05:20
  else that went along with it and nothing ever came of it, you
• 2:05:24
  know, like, it does seem to be that people like, and we've been
• 2:05:28
  trying to actively not go into it because it seemed like people
• 2:05:32
  were Target Mass flagging. Sam in relation, maybe to his
• 2:05:36
  appearances on other other shows, or whatever.
• 2:05:39
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. But, but I just want to say, to
• 2:05:41
  those people like you did us a favor because we're having way
• 2:05:44
  more fun. So yeah, nobody's having more
• 2:05:47
  fun than us right there. Amy, we're all, we're also
• 2:05:50
  getting way more viewers and sort of saying on, that's what I
• 2:05:54
  was going to say too. I mean, we've been chilling, it
• 2:05:58
  out. People were spawned.
• 2:06:00
  People are clicking on the links.
• 2:06:02
  Things are gettin hype. We got great, guest stacked up.
• 2:06:06
  Wait, yeah, that's awesome. I mean, I'm happy to see you
• 2:06:09
  guys doing work for Sammy. It's gonna be nobody deserves it
• 2:06:13
  more than Sam Wright, and I think say that it sounds corny,
• 2:06:17
  but it's true. Works his ass off.
• 2:06:20
  It's you and me, Sue. You and me, well, episodes you
• 2:06:25
  and yeah, it's really. I kind of expected the bump in
• 2:06:31
  viewership, just from the Kurt, do little episode because his
• 2:06:35
  fans would be likely to check it out, just because it was him.
• 2:06:38
  But the interesting thing to me is our Monday shows are doing
• 2:06:43
  100 times what they did on YouTube, fucking the interview
• 2:06:47
  with Craig. Egg the, the chemical engineer.
• 2:06:50
  If anybody missed that, they talked in depth about some of
• 2:06:53
  the, the issues surrounding the train derailment in.
• 2:06:56
  Ohio is one of the most interesting conversations I've
• 2:07:00
  heard this year. I highly recommend it, that was
• 2:07:03
  doing numbers as well. Everything's doing numbers as
• 2:07:07
  soon as we got off YouTube, it's like is YouTube even relevant
• 2:07:11
  anymore? Well, I'm certainly not to
• 2:07:13
  people looking for this kind of content one.
• 2:07:15
  I've also heard that chance We're getting taken down now for
• 2:07:20
  just talking about the train derailment.
• 2:07:24
  Yeah, that wouldn't surprise. You know what?
• 2:07:26
  I think it is. I do think YouTube has been such
• 2:07:29
  a, you know, Google and YouTube. And she has been such a monopoly
• 2:07:32
  for so long on this stuff that I think that yeah, obviously it's
• 2:07:37
  the easy most easily accessible generally speaking for for like
• 2:07:43
  people to just post it on the internet but it that's not even
• 2:07:46
  true anymore you know but Because they've had, you know,
• 2:07:51
  they were the first ones you're right.
• 2:07:53
  They were the first ones to make it easy for the majority of
• 2:07:57
  people to upload video content, specifically, live content as
• 2:08:00
  well but now there is so many other choices.
• 2:08:04
  So many competitors that you can just take your pick.
• 2:08:07
  And you're right when we what you're saying there is they
• 2:08:10
  don't know how to compete because they've never had to or
• 2:08:13
  right and I think the you know, like the YouTuber.
• 2:08:19
  YouTube is like an adjective now, you know, and has been for
• 2:08:23
  the past couple of years. Even if you I mean, I don't
• 2:08:27
  know, I guess it's different for Tick-Tock or Instagram or
• 2:08:29
  whatever but like just the general I'm a YouTuber seems to
• 2:08:34
  be like a, I don't know. It's like it's very pretty, it's
• 2:08:37
  become pervasive because they held it down for so long.
• 2:08:40
  Yeah. People don't even consider these
• 2:08:42
  Alternatives as a being Valerie Raines examples of back up.
• 2:08:46
  What you're saying, when the When police entered Ethan Rouse
• 2:08:51
  house, they were called on him. He told them his job was
• 2:08:55
  YouTuber and because it's so ubiquitous the in first thing
• 2:08:59
  that the Mexican cop says, is, what's your channel, link hurts,
• 2:09:02
  right? And, of course, of course, Ralph
• 2:09:05
  didn't have a channel link and so, it made his story about like
• 2:09:08
  his story was, I'm a livestreamer basically, right?
• 2:09:11
  But they didn't get right, so, because he said, YouTuber there
• 2:09:15
  instantly suspicious, now because why can't you just like
• 2:09:17
  me or you? Channel them 100%.
• 2:09:20
  But I mean, it speaks to. Yeah, it speaks to my point
• 2:09:23
  about being, you know, the kind of person that he is.
• 2:09:26
  I mean, it's just he he thought it was a more acceptable,
• 2:09:32
  answer, more easily understood and in a sense, he's right.
• 2:09:36
  He's not on YouTube but he's doing what you can Bridge do.
• 2:09:39
  Just not allow you to to be fair to him and I try not to but to
• 2:09:44
  be fair to him, he did start with saying he's alive streamer.
• 2:09:47
  And I think there was a bit of Of a barrier of language
• 2:09:49
  involved as well, right? But it just struck me as funny
• 2:09:52
  as he said, I'm a YouTuber and they're like, they understood
• 2:09:55
  that they knew. Okay, that's that's a job.
• 2:09:57
  So, where's your channel? Because if your YouTube you can
• 2:09:59
  leave the chase. I'm on this other website and
• 2:10:02
  they're worried about you. Yeah that's going to become more
• 2:10:09
  and more common is like like Sam's version.
• 2:10:12
  He says he's a podcaster, right? Because he doesn't have to say
• 2:10:14
  you because we've considered making another Channel.
• 2:10:18
  But what's the point? If he's in ban evasion, it's my
• 2:10:22
  thought on it. And what I said in, we had these
• 2:10:25
  kind of debates was, you know, it's unprofessional, right?
• 2:10:29
  If we're trying to present this as a professional show, its kind
• 2:10:32
  of unprofessional to go try to be where you're not, welcome,
• 2:10:37
  right? If we're not welcome on YouTube,
• 2:10:38
  fuck them. Like rumbles been pretty good to
• 2:10:40
  us. Odysseys been pretty good to us.
• 2:10:42
  Yeah. Well, yeah, and I think that the
• 2:10:45
  more people do exactly like you're doing and say, you know
• 2:10:50
  what? No, I mean, just because YouTube
• 2:10:52
  is the, he's like, you're right, you could do like a keemstar and
• 2:10:57
  one of us could start a new channel.
• 2:11:00
  That's, and, you know, it's just the same thing, but just under a
• 2:11:03
  different ownership, you know, and just give it all to Sam.
• 2:11:07
  It's Sam to do his thing, but, yeah, I'm not even opposed to
• 2:11:10
  doing something like that. I actually am.
• 2:11:13
  I'm preparing a channel for something like that, but we're
• 2:11:15
  going to use it for is clips and I'm going to run the channel.
• 2:11:18
  I'm not ban, so it's perfectly fine.
• 2:11:20
  And we're just going to put up clips from the show to help
• 2:11:22
  promote it. Exactly perfect.
• 2:11:24
  But the idea that we would put the show on a platform, we're
• 2:11:26
  not welcome. Well, it's like if we're not
• 2:11:28
  welcome here than fuck you. Yeah, right.
• 2:11:31
  Yeah, right. We can get, and I mean, Rahsaan
• 2:11:34
  Rumble. We can get viewers on Odyssey,
• 2:11:36
  Sam's, always gotten viewers on fucking iTunes and Spotify.
• 2:11:40
  So, right, are you the fucking de facto Monopoly anymore,
• 2:11:45
  Google? Well, especially when YouTube
• 2:11:47
  has literally never posted a profit in its entire existence
• 2:11:51
  to continue to compete with companies that do actually post
• 2:11:54
  profits that do the same thing. They're going to have to change
• 2:11:58
  and it seems, they're change was to ban more people now.
• 2:12:01
  They have. Yeah.
• 2:12:02
  The Creator on Creator, harassment policy which
• 2:12:05
  basically bands my show out, right?
• 2:12:07
  Yeah, yeah, don't make fun of other YouTubers now.
• 2:12:11
  Yeah, and it's there, they literally just jacked it
• 2:12:14
  wholesale from from twitch, it's even written the same way and it
• 2:12:17
  works out on Twitch about as well as you'd fucking think that
• 2:12:21
  people get suspended and banned all the time for making a joke
• 2:12:24
  with their buddy on a while, they're playing a game and shit.
• 2:12:27
  So of course, you as a creator. Harassment.
• 2:12:32
  Yeah. No.
• 2:12:33
  No. Well, I was actually going to
• 2:12:34
  ask Apex like if he had heard about that and like what he
• 2:12:39
  because I know that, I know that you Apex.
• 2:12:41
  I mean, you've been even, if you haven't been in politics, you
• 2:12:44
  can watching like gaming content and other stuff on the web for
• 2:12:48
  years. So this whole thing of like just
• 2:12:53
  Banning craters talking shit to each other to you must seem
• 2:12:57
  really weird. Well, I mean well, I think I'm
• 2:13:01
  sure it like anything. I'm not surprised by it though.
• 2:13:04
  I can tell. No, of course not but I think
• 2:13:07
  like anything else it it's just you know ruled there's different
• 2:13:12
  sets of rules really when it comes down to it, the different
• 2:13:16
  sets of user guide lines or whatever for these huge creators
• 2:13:21
  and they obviously get special privilege, and even remotely
• 2:13:25
  large creators. But what I, the only thing that
• 2:13:28
  YouTube has left At all. That's that should be any appeal
• 2:13:32
  to anybody is reach because the number of people across the
• 2:13:38
  world that watch YouTube, I'll add one other thing too.
• 2:13:42
  That it's the reach your right. But it's also the fucking like
• 2:13:45
  the established creators that are staying put and there and
• 2:13:49
  they're reducing that pool all the time is the only reason I'm
• 2:13:52
  moving out as they ban these people for an Oculus shit.
• 2:13:55
  Like for example, the creator of creative harassment.
• 2:13:59
  Well, you could Absolutely apply that to all Christian content.
• 2:14:03
  Right. Because he's a Creator.
• 2:14:05
  So are we going to are we going to see some of these big
• 2:14:08
  Christian channels? Get banned like, or even a guy
• 2:14:12
  like turkey Tom who goes out of his way to try and follow all
• 2:14:15
  the rules but he's talking about other creators right, you know,
• 2:14:19
  where does the line get drawn and how is enforcement done?
• 2:14:22
  And so far what I've seen as in terms of enforcement is they're
• 2:14:26
  banning friends of mine who have small channels and big keemstar
• 2:14:30
  Has drama time, right? That's quite right.
• 2:14:32
  Right? Exactly.
• 2:14:33
  Yeah. They're, they're weeding out the
• 2:14:36
  I mean it was built on a platform for people to, you
• 2:14:40
  know, be creative and build a build communities and shit.
• 2:14:44
  And now it's, I mean, it's it's Clover time.
• 2:14:48
  Yeah, it's just become. This fucking whoever makes the
• 2:14:52
  most money. I mean, there's been a bunch of,
• 2:14:56
  it's even happening. Pretty frequently, get Google
• 2:14:59
  didn't start YouTube. They bought it, right?
• 2:15:01
  Right, exactly. Yeah.
• 2:15:04
  But there's been a rash of and it's been happening for quite a
• 2:15:07
  few years now. But there seems recently there's
• 2:15:09
  a lot of big channels that I've been getting hacked and like run
• 2:15:13
  crypto scams on there. You know like Linus Linus Tech
• 2:15:17
  tips is a fucking huge YouTuber that I believe that's the
• 2:15:21
  biggest channel to be hacked through this shit so far.
• 2:15:24
  Yeah right? Yeah I would I think so but if
• 2:15:29
  not it's in The top 10 because lying is fucking and I work in
• 2:15:34
  computers. Like what?
• 2:15:35
  Yeah I know this video is this like part of my job Mmm.
• 2:15:39
  Yeah. Right exactly. so yeah, I mean
• 2:15:42
  there's obviously a difference between the way they are going
• 2:15:47
  to deal with the channel, like that versus A channel like
• 2:15:51
  Sam's. But the fact of the matter is,
• 2:15:55
  or the, the truth of it whatever.
• 2:15:57
  Is that, you know, it is literally all about money.
• 2:16:00
  So if Sam's not making them money necessarily, did you see
• 2:16:05
  the twitch thing on that actually, where they broke down,
• 2:16:08
  how much it costs for the average streamer to to host
• 2:16:12
  them? It costs them about a thousand
• 2:16:14
  dollars a month. Now that's Twitches numbers, not
• 2:16:16
  YouTube's. So, do Tavern and individual
• 2:16:19
  streamer. For an individual streamer who
• 2:16:21
  streams an average of eight hours three times a week.
• 2:16:26
  It costs them a thousand dollars to host that video content.
• 2:16:29
  So if that and that's why they say they have no problem Banning
• 2:16:32
  smaller creators because you're not bringing in a thousand
• 2:16:35
  dollars a month and you're costing them money.
• 2:16:37
  Yeah. And I bet you YouTube's metric
• 2:16:39
  and the way they look at it is exactly the same.
• 2:16:41
  Yeah it's hard to it's hard to argue with that.
• 2:16:43
  When you look at it as a from a business perspective.
• 2:16:46
  Sorry go ahead Sam. Well and one that it will know
• 2:16:50
  that's what I was. And that's what I was going to
• 2:16:52
  say to like as crazy as crazy as it may seem like my mom actually
• 2:16:59
  had this theory that isn't too dissimilar to that we're like
• 2:17:04
  we're when I was on saddened where when I was on Saturday to
• 2:17:08
  show, like, you know, no one would really tune in for those.
• 2:17:12
  But then when I, when I moved to Mondays and Wednesdays like
• 2:17:17
  that, Was when I started instantly getting more views
• 2:17:20
  just based on that. And so I knew that was a good
• 2:17:23
  idea that maybe that maybe like, costume or bad.
• 2:17:28
  Like her whole theory was that like I got kicked out because I
• 2:17:31
  was using, like, too much bandwidth of YouTube.
• 2:17:35
  Yeah, I think I think that that's a factor when they look
• 2:17:38
  at a channel that's got small numbers.
• 2:17:41
  I will actually say though, they're wrong, what the problem
• 2:17:44
  YouTube has, if the Our kind of a way to get rid of small
• 2:17:50
  creators, which I think they are their problem then is that
• 2:17:55
  they're actually just undermining a sorry under
• 2:17:57
  monetizing small creators. Ya hear me?
• 2:18:00
  Hear me out, you know, for the people that are skeptical of
• 2:18:03
  that. How many super chats can you
• 2:18:06
  see? Somebody?
• 2:18:06
  Get, who has maybe 100 viewers, or even tonight Sam got a couple
• 2:18:10
  super chats, or whatever and he's, you know, got 30, 30
• 2:18:16
  something people watching like If they were to do super chats
• 2:18:20
  in a way through the official, YouTube system that didn't take
• 2:18:25
  a massive cut of every fucking one, right creators, feel
• 2:18:29
  comfortable with it. They would be making more off of
• 2:18:32
  these small channels than I think they ever anticipated.
• 2:18:35
  And that's, it's simply because the real, the real Doomsday, the
• 2:18:39
  real apocalypse coming for YouTube is that the ad supported
• 2:18:43
  model of the internet is dying. Yes, it's their home.
• 2:18:47
  All model and they've Butte built this beautiful model of
• 2:18:51
  super chats. One, one of the things people
• 2:18:54
  can't figure out why Jim continue to stay on YouTube and
• 2:18:57
  use the Super Chat system. Yeah, and it's really obvious
• 2:19:01
  when you think about it, but every other system from stream
• 2:19:04
  Labs, stream, elements to power chat or anything else you're
• 2:19:09
  using PayPal, and it gives your complete docks to the other
• 2:19:12
  party. Or maybe not, maybe not your
• 2:19:15
  complete Docks but enough of it. The Ethan rally Ethan Ralph is a
• 2:19:18
  perfect example uses it to Doc's people when they say some he
• 2:19:21
  doesn't like right. This is a concern that people
• 2:19:25
  have or just, hey, I have an edgy opinion and I like this
• 2:19:28
  guy, mr. Medicare.
• 2:19:29
  Who's a little edgy, right? I don't want to lose my job over
• 2:19:34
  it. So they use the Super Chat
• 2:19:36
  system in the only fucking Achilles heel in.
• 2:19:38
  That is it? Because Jim's a larger Creator
• 2:19:41
  than most of us in this in this sphere Here he is able to pull
• 2:19:45
  in lots of it to offset that cut that YouTube takes to make it
• 2:19:49
  worthwhile for him. But for a lot of people that's
• 2:19:52
  not the case, and that's why they use stream elements, that's
• 2:19:56
  why they use stream Labs. That's why they use all these
• 2:19:59
  different payment processors that take less of a cut.
• 2:20:03
  And that's why even fucking Andy wore ski and PPP.
• 2:20:06
  We're using fucking power chat, which is literally owned by a
• 2:20:10
  fucking Federal informant. Yeah.
• 2:20:13
  Was, it didn't take as big of a cut so they thought, well, we'll
• 2:20:16
  get more money and they put their audience and, and I called
• 2:20:20
  Andy wore, ski on this directly on Twitter.
• 2:20:22
  Anybody wants to see, he's blocked me now, but I called him
• 2:20:24
  on it and I said that's fucked up.
• 2:20:26
  You put your your your audience at risk in, you're not even
• 2:20:29
  going to take responsibility for it or say.
• 2:20:31
  Yeah. This this was a boneheaded
• 2:20:32
  fucking move. But is it more boneheaded than
• 2:20:35
  using PayPal through stream Labs?
• 2:20:37
  I don't know. Obviously somebody like Sam's
• 2:20:40
  not going to Doc's you if you fucking send him money, somebody
• 2:20:43
  like you. Ethan Ralph is so you got to use
• 2:20:45
  your own judgment but YouTube system being more Anonymous,
• 2:20:49
  makes it much more isn't desirable, is it crack me if I'm
• 2:20:54
  wrong though? But like, the last time I read
• 2:20:57
  extrema and PayPal's like TOS, like those two things like
• 2:21:02
  basically dachshund your docs in your viewers is against Tittle,
• 2:21:08
  as of course, of course it is. It is again, fourth, it terms of
• 2:21:12
  service. However, that's not going to
• 2:21:15
  necessarily like undo the damage.
• 2:21:17
  If it happens, I'll see her. Yeah, I've seen people do it
• 2:21:20
  through those methods as well. You could say power chat is its
• 2:21:22
  own thing, baked Alaska owns it, whatever.
• 2:21:25
  And that's why it's Shady. But I've seen people who use
• 2:21:27
  stream labs and stream elements, due to Christopher Cantwell,
• 2:21:31
  used people that bought T-shirts from him to Doc's them, we will.
• 2:21:35
  Yeah, yeah. That's what that's what, that's
• 2:21:40
  why people are losing their, that's why people lose their
• 2:21:43
  Pals. A lot of the time, though, to.
• 2:21:46
  I imagine, yeah, you'd lose your PayPal.
• 2:21:49
  But here's the thing, let's say you did Doc somebody right, you
• 2:21:54
  lose your PayPal, they're still boxed, right?
• 2:21:56
  It doesn't undo the damage. And especially if you're in a
• 2:22:01
  vulnerable position where that could cost you your job, like
• 2:22:04
  maybe you have a edgy political opinion or something.
• 2:22:06
  Yeah. Yeah, it's I was going to ask
• 2:22:12
  you fellas if either, I'm sorry, it's good Sim.
• 2:22:16
  No, I was just going to say it's an interesting situation for
• 2:22:19
  sure. Anyway, what were you saying?
• 2:22:22
  I was just curious if either of you as we're on Odyssey right
• 2:22:26
  now, right. We're on Odyssey and Rumble.
• 2:22:29
  Odyssey and Rumble. Do they either or both of them
• 2:22:32
  have like a super chat function. Yes.
• 2:22:36
  They but they both do and are they basically what we are
• 2:22:41
  comparable or better or worse than what we were just
• 2:22:44
  describing you. YouTube has had in their Super
• 2:22:47
  Chat function. If you combine the both of them,
• 2:22:50
  there they are, have everything that you'd want from YouTube.
• 2:22:53
  Unfortunately, there's like I have little gripes with rumble
• 2:22:56
  on the back end. It's not the most user-friendly
• 2:23:00
  back and I've ever seen in Odyssey, there's the way in
• 2:23:06
  which live streams work on Odysseys.
• 2:23:08
  Mm, bit weird. On the back again, it's all back
• 2:23:11
  end stuff, but in terms of the super chats which was your
• 2:23:15
  Actual question that I completely store or steered away
• 2:23:18
  from it's fine, they actually take less of a cut and I believe
• 2:23:22
  rumbles is does have the anonymous kind of function the
• 2:23:26
  way YouTube's does. I'm yeah, certain of it
• 2:23:29
  actually, that Odyssey, doesn't Odysseys, Odyssey uses crypto.
• 2:23:33
  So it is, it does have that or not, but it's their built.
• 2:23:36
  Its, this is one of the things I don't like, I don't like sites
• 2:23:38
  that have a built-in crypto like that, right?
• 2:23:41
  It was my same complaint with d live.
• 2:23:43
  Yeah, because it creates a A perverse incentive for somebody
• 2:23:47
  to manipulate the crypto on the other end, which is exactly what
• 2:23:50
  happened with d live, by the way, huh?
• 2:23:52
  Of course, so, but, you know, Odyssey has not done anything to
• 2:23:59
  lose my trust over yet. The one thing I don't like
• 2:24:04
  though on Odyssey is that you kind of have to use crypto to
• 2:24:07
  buy their crypto to Super Chat. Well hold on.
• 2:24:11
  I remember what's what feels like a like a year ago?
• 2:24:16
  Seeing them tweet that they were going to be exchanging in us
• 2:24:21
  including US Dollars it. Maybe I haven't attempted to do
• 2:24:26
  that in four months to be fair, why?
• 2:24:30
  No, I know that you can like, send.
• 2:24:32
  I know that you can like, send cash directly through.
• 2:24:38
  Yeah, they have a, they have a tip jar.
• 2:24:40
  Yes. Okay, yeah.
• 2:24:42
  There we go. That's kind of what I was
• 2:24:44
  getting at rum that can Be done anonymously.
• 2:24:47
  Just like super jets on YouTube because it's in USD, I don't
• 2:24:54
  know, that's the thing. I don't know, because I don't
• 2:24:57
  get super Chats on honesty, right?
• 2:24:58
  So, I don't know how much information.
• 2:25:00
  It's giving on the back end, I would hope it's minimal.
• 2:25:04
  I mean, this is always a concern.
• 2:25:05
  Yeah. It's it's very it's very
• 2:25:08
  minimal. My my, my one issue with with
• 2:25:12
  Rumble in terms of Super Chat is Is, it doesn't really tell you
• 2:25:18
  who sent the super Chats on the back end.
• 2:25:23
  Like the username but they chatted under, or whatever, it
• 2:25:27
  won't even do that on Rumble. Yeah, to be fair to rumble on
• 2:25:31
  this, their payment processor that they just created
• 2:25:35
  specifically for rumble to be an alternative payment processor,
• 2:25:39
  literally came online this week. So yeah, I'm not going to be too
• 2:25:43
  harsh on them for that. It's the same thing with Odyssey
• 2:25:45
  is like they're working out Kinks.
• 2:25:47
  Like I'm talking about my complaints but to be fair to
• 2:25:50
  both platforms. They're Distantly improving and
• 2:25:54
  listen to user feedback, which is something YouTube hasn't done
• 2:25:57
  in what fucking 15 years, right? And that's go, that's what we
• 2:26:00
  were sorry to cut you off same. But real quick, that that's kind
• 2:26:03
  of what we were just talking about.
• 2:26:04
  Our YouTube has like the sajama. Neon the I don't know if that's
• 2:26:08
  the right word but that, you know, it's you you nailed it.
• 2:26:11
  That's the right word. Yes, yeah.
• 2:26:13
  Hey sorry. I'm kind of stoned and I worked
• 2:26:15
  all day. So, but ya know, they've they've
• 2:26:20
  had this, you know, kind of Stranglehold.
• 2:26:22
  They've been doing it for so long.
• 2:26:24
  They were the first and the only for a long time men.
• 2:26:27
  Maybe not the only well only only you look like you look at
• 2:26:32
  the Alternatives though. None of them took fire, right?
• 2:26:34
  You got Dailymotion and Vimeo and even bit shoot.
• 2:26:38
  A lot of people like and use bit shoot because they get band off
• 2:26:42
  of YouTube, but I find that bitch shoot is trash like the
• 2:26:45
  bad guys part? I hate.
• 2:26:48
  I've had to upload the same video six times because it just
• 2:26:51
  says processing for like A year. All right?
• 2:26:55
  And it's, that shit is annoying. II was big.
• 2:26:58
  I was really bullish on bit shoot when it came out, but they
• 2:27:02
  have, you know, they're always asking for money.
• 2:27:04
  They're always promising, things like live streaming, and then
• 2:27:07
  they don't follow through on it. And I'm sure that there is
• 2:27:10
  reasoning behind that. I'm not in there like business
• 2:27:13
  meetings but the, you know, especially now we're Rumble, is
• 2:27:17
  a viable alternative where Odyssey is a viable alternative
• 2:27:20
  to what bit shoot is doing and both of them do it with.
• 2:27:22
  Someone again, I ripped on rumbles back end as being very
• 2:27:26
  basic. It's still miles ahead of what
• 2:27:29
  bitch you has. Yeah.
• 2:27:32
  And I like Odyssey Odyssey has seemed to be on the right
• 2:27:36
  trajectory from the time I found them and I'm not a I'm not a
• 2:27:40
  super techy guy. I definitely am not in computers
• 2:27:43
  I can. I mean the laptop that currently
• 2:27:47
  I can't use and why I'm talking to you guys on my phone is a
• 2:27:50
  2009 Samsung. Laptop model.
• 2:27:54
  Yeah but I they just you could navigate Odyssey like, no
• 2:28:00
  problem and that's good. That's what my need.
• 2:28:03
  My point is is her not a techie guy as not a tech guy like it
• 2:28:07
  is. I appreciate the steps they've
• 2:28:11
  taken and the the face they put on, you know, both on Twitter
• 2:28:15
  and seemingly on there you know just their General You know,
• 2:28:22
  projection of themselves to the public, you know, I don't know.
• 2:28:27
  Well, well, what I like to do is I mean also and this is another
• 2:28:32
  thing, I I kind of find this thing is like looking at my
• 2:28:37
  numbers on both. Unlike Rumble specifically with
• 2:28:43
  the whole with the holker. Do it on the view is that video
• 2:28:48
  is close to like 200 views. And yeah I only have like 20
• 2:28:52
  subscribers on Rumble. Now I find that interesting
• 2:28:58
  because on YouTube you know like the more the more subs you have
• 2:29:03
  the more videos like the more visibility your video gets right
• 2:29:10
  but that But that doesn't us necessarily seem to be the case
• 2:29:15
  on. Well, and once you find once
• 2:29:19
  you're fine, once you find that audience on YouTube, if you
• 2:29:24
  notice people don't expand outside of it, right?
• 2:29:27
  If you find a niche on YouTube and you decide, I'm also going
• 2:29:30
  to do the this is actually a Johnny Fox thing which Johnny
• 2:29:35
  Fox will try and get every algorithm right and try and make
• 2:29:40
  something of himself and he'll by Bots.
• 2:29:43
  And yes I have evidence that he buys Bots.
• 2:29:45
  By the way, I haven't done a Dream on it yet, but he
• 2:29:49
  definitely does. But aside from that, so he's
• 2:29:51
  been doing the To Catch a Predator stuff, where he
• 2:29:53
  commentates over old To Catch a Predator episodes and he caught
• 2:29:57
  a little bit of an audience that way.
• 2:29:59
  But Johnny Fox being Johnny Fox, he gets bored of doing the same
• 2:30:04
  fucking content and he thinks well I want to do video game
• 2:30:06
  stuff so he'll just upload a shit ton of him playing video
• 2:30:10
  games on this channel. That got successful because
• 2:30:12
  people came to watch to catch a predator and shock of shocks.
• 2:30:16
  Not only did those videos do horrible.
• 2:30:18
  Bleah, but his main To Catch a Predator videos, start doing
• 2:30:21
  less numbers of course because he'd found his Niche, you know,
• 2:30:26
  and he could have built on that Niche.
• 2:30:28
  Obviously, Johnny Fox is a bad example because he's, you know,
• 2:30:31
  retarded but like I was going to say they a that sounds like
• 2:30:33
  typical absolute retard behavior on the internet.
• 2:30:37
  I mean, many cases, right? He's already, he's already
• 2:30:40
  changed. He did another Channel where he
• 2:30:43
  was going to do tear lists because I guess he heard that
• 2:30:45
  was hot and that didn't take off.
• 2:30:48
  So he's gone through several phases of what he thinks is
• 2:30:51
  going to catch fire and make him a big because he the reason I
• 2:30:55
  bring him up as an example, he's the perfect kind of example of a
• 2:30:58
  guy who thinks of YouTube as a lottery ticket.
• 2:31:02
  You know, yeah, I could speculate about his real-life
• 2:31:07
  financial situation, but even by his own metrics, he says it's
• 2:31:12
  not doing too well. Well, so he has to.
• 2:31:15
  He literally said on a recent episode, he has to make you to
• 2:31:19
  he has to make it big as a YouTuber because he has no
• 2:31:23
  Alternatives and that is it's terrible, that content creation
• 2:31:28
  has this effect on people. In my opinion it's it is
• 2:31:31
  actually you're right. Right?
• 2:31:32
  It's it's more than terrible. It's like it's literally tragic.
• 2:31:37
  Yeah like because I mean Johnny Fox probably wouldn't be
• 2:31:43
  anything super special but without this idea of have fifty
• 2:31:48
  thousand subs and talk about what he wanted to talk about if
• 2:31:51
  he hadn't consistently fucked himself over and not even that
• 2:31:55
  man like aside from the content creation he could have done
• 2:32:00
  something you know. Real like actual something, you
• 2:32:05
  know, he could have been a decent novelist.
• 2:32:09
  He could have just wrote a bunch of books and or build some
• 2:32:15
  houses. Swung a fucking hammer and made
• 2:32:19
  decent money stayed in decent shape, and also wrote.
• 2:32:24
  But, you know, you could do to, I do more than one thing.
• 2:32:27
  You know, I was just joking about this.
• 2:32:29
  That I said, oh, I do like five to six episodes.
• 2:32:32
  Of cringe Coffee House a year, it's more than that I do.
• 2:32:35
  But basically one a month, but my point is, it's the polar
• 2:32:39
  opposite of what you're describing here.
• 2:32:41
  With Johnny Fox right? Is like my content creation, is
• 2:32:44
  something I do when I have spare time for fun, because I don't,
• 2:32:49
  it's a hob, hob, literally, and outside of that, I'm out here
• 2:32:53
  working being a dad, having a real life, and knowing people in
• 2:32:56
  my community and this is why I come, I think on the political
• 2:33:00
  side of things, with, with takes that People don't hear bits
• 2:33:03
  because I go talk to normal fucking people who are obsessed
• 2:33:06
  with all this shit. Dude, I mean, you're describing
• 2:33:10
  like my egg literal. At least might the atmosphere of
• 2:33:14
  my entry into this whole thing. Yeah.
• 2:33:19
  When I ended up in Sam's chat, I was making the most bullshit
• 2:33:26
  fucking screen recorded du recorder recordings of Owen
• 2:33:31
  Benjamin. And because he was someone that
• 2:33:34
  I occasionally watched while I did yard work, or listen to
• 2:33:37
  while I did yard work or fucking I was at the kids soccer game or
• 2:33:43
  whatever. He was, just, what he was in a
• 2:33:44
  rotation of a bunch of fucking creepy, you know, content that I
• 2:33:48
  would listen to. And I started I joined on the
• 2:33:54
  fuck. Oh, and train once I, you know,
• 2:33:57
  saw the whole Gummy incident which, you know, this well trade
• 2:33:59
  territory on this channel or You know, and Sam's audience, but it
• 2:34:07
  was literally just a, it was a hobby, like, I would be
• 2:34:09
  listening to 0 and while fucking running a chainsaw and he would
• 2:34:15
  say something I would listen to him, say a string of things, and
• 2:34:18
  then, I would stop the chainsaw. Rewind, the video Turn on DVD
• 2:34:22
  recorder, and just record some bullshit audio over in it just
• 2:34:28
  like countering whatever he said and I did fucking, I did it.
• 2:34:32
  A bunch of videos but I did them all pretty well.
• 2:34:39
  You know, preoccupied. And of course once it got shit
• 2:34:43
  got traction. I started to pay a little bit
• 2:34:46
  more attention to it and put a little more.
• 2:34:50
  Tiny, little more feels good when people appreciate your
• 2:34:52
  work. Yeah, of course.
• 2:34:54
  Yeah, that's right. I Trevor didn't count that out
• 2:34:56
  was like look like when I say and Merce was saying, this in
• 2:35:01
  the videos, the Sam showed me recently about Sam of like, I
• 2:35:05
  just want to be like, I don't want to be a For celebrity and
• 2:35:10
  marshes thing on that. I'm sure you've seen it.
• 2:35:13
  It was interesting to me because he said, oh no man ever was
• 2:35:16
  content with his lot in Life or whatever and it's like, that's
• 2:35:20
  because you merge like everybody else.
• 2:35:23
  That's content creation. As a ticket to the fucking to
• 2:35:27
  the races. Where's a lot of us?
• 2:35:30
  Just see it as a hobby and that's why we're Mercer's
• 2:35:33
  another. Oh sorry, good good.
• 2:35:35
  Well, that's why we're happy with her almost 200 people.
• 2:35:38
  Watch that Kurt to little interview.
• 2:35:40
  That's fucking great because that's 200 people that listen to
• 2:35:43
  a really interesting guy. By the way, if you haven't
• 2:35:45
  watched it, just just a little primer on who Curt Doolittle is
• 2:35:48
  used to work at Microsoft. He's a fucking big, big Tech CEO
• 2:35:52
  and he's a philosopher and he's one of the smartest people.
• 2:35:55
  I personally have ever talked to and it was he doesn't do a lot
• 2:36:00
  of interviews but because we're friends with him, we got him to
• 2:36:04
  do this and it's such a good. It's so packed with information
• 2:36:08
  that one Our I think it's one of the shorter episodes of Sam's
• 2:36:11
  show every. Yeah, it's like it just clocks
• 2:36:15
  in like at 59 like it clockwise like 59 minutes and 58 seconds
• 2:36:20
  or so nice. And this is no disrespect to
• 2:36:23
  anything that's come before it. This is just a testament to how
• 2:36:25
  Kurt is it's more packed with information than some five-hour
• 2:36:29
  fucking streams, right? Yeah.
• 2:36:31
  Oh no court. No head.
• 2:36:32
  Look. No, there's no disrespect taken
• 2:36:35
  because and he had you able to join us tonight.
• 2:36:38
  I don't want I really didn't want anybody in the audience to
• 2:36:41
  think there was like some be for some it's like as like Sam asked
• 2:36:45
  us to help out and I was like, oh, what about Apex?
• 2:36:48
  He's like, oh well, he's got stuff going on right now.
• 2:36:51
  And I was like, yeah, will step in to help sure.
• 2:36:53
  And, you know what, I can't thank you guys enough because
• 2:36:56
  that's one of the problems that I've had with this whole thing.
• 2:36:59
  I met Sam in the chat. I Came Upon him during this
• 2:37:05
  whole Owen thing in my early days, and God damn it.
• 2:37:09
  If the little handsome little shit isn't charming and you
• 2:37:13
  know, as been doing this thing for a long time, even when I met
• 2:37:18
  him and what I thought back then, it was just me.
• 2:37:22
  And during that was the shirtless Sam days when the
• 2:37:25
  child would say show feet and take your shirt off.
• 2:37:28
  And he did it, he did it all the time and I'm like, dude, you
• 2:37:33
  need to fucking, you need somebody to bounce off of And
• 2:37:38
  maybe it's the narcissist and me or whatever.
• 2:37:41
  And I don't even think I suggested it, but I thought it
• 2:37:46
  would be if I thought it would be fun.
• 2:37:48
  And so for the next what, three fucking three years or so a
• 2:37:53
  Miss. Yeah, very few shows.
• 2:37:56
  And but I never had a because I came into the whole thing as a
• 2:38:01
  hobby. I never I don't have, I never
• 2:38:06
  had like the The entire what's the word that I just, I just
• 2:38:12
  never had the gumption to get a show together.
• 2:38:17
  You know, I had I've got a job and I had a family and should at
• 2:38:21
  the time and even when I after I didn't I couldn't, I couldn't
• 2:38:26
  focus enough energy on doing this because I didn't see it as
• 2:38:31
  a ladder and unfortunately I like lost.
• 2:38:34
  I should have stepped away a long time ago.
• 2:38:37
  To be honest with you for Sam say, because I feel like I've
• 2:38:42
  been a detriment for the last couple of years, although I've
• 2:38:44
  had a lot of fun, I'll counter that, I'll counter that when you
• 2:38:48
  stepped away, it just so happened.
• 2:38:51
  Me and my guys, and by the way, you know, a little inside
• 2:38:54
  baseball here it's not just me or even just shmuly helping out.
• 2:38:58
  We have a team actually have guys.
• 2:39:00
  Yeah. That that are, that are helping
• 2:39:02
  out now. And I just happen to have this
• 2:39:04
  team of guys and we do shit and we're always looking for a
• 2:39:07
  project and when Sam approached me.
• 2:39:10
  This was so I had gone on the show with you guys before I knew
• 2:39:14
  expect, and I thought to myself like what is and I've also
• 2:39:17
  watched other episodes since then as well.
• 2:39:20
  Because I just met I just met Sam last year.
• 2:39:22
  Myself. And I had a crash course and I
• 2:39:26
  still missed. He's shown me like this merch
• 2:39:27
  stuff. I was that, that's so good.
• 2:39:30
  I use that one. Marsh rant as like a promo for
• 2:39:32
  the show. And Maurice got mad.
• 2:39:36
  It's great. You got mad at his own thing.
• 2:39:39
  The he said that makes him look like an asshole.
• 2:39:41
  Like yeah, you get real mad dude.
• 2:39:45
  But what I noticed and in, Mauritius thing hits the nail on
• 2:39:48
  the head, too because he's like, I was nice to you.
• 2:39:50
  Well, nobody's nicer than Sam. And Sam asks thoughtful
• 2:39:54
  questions, and he makes people feel comfortable and I was like,
• 2:39:57
  well, what if we got? Sam to interview interesting
• 2:39:59
  people and that, I mean that it, that's always, that's what I've
• 2:40:03
  always wanted, sorry to cut you off, but I'm I've been so happy
• 2:40:07
  to see that and unfortunately, Lee.
• 2:40:09
  I haven't had the time to watch a lot of these episodes, but I
• 2:40:12
  have seen you Max specifically, putting in the effort on Twitter
• 2:40:17
  and I, you know, I do I would always retweet Sam's tweets and,
• 2:40:20
  you know, quote tweet them and shit like that.
• 2:40:23
  But I never had enough faith in myself.
• 2:40:28
  Riding what you guys are doing. You know, it's been a
• 2:40:30
  self-deprecation thing for me for a while, but, well, Sam is
• 2:40:35
  kind of suffered as a result. I'll go with this.
• 2:40:38
  Like, I've I already feel like I haven't, I haven't fully come
• 2:40:41
  through because this week, we, you know, like I have a lot of
• 2:40:45
  musician guests. I want to bring on a
• 2:40:47
  particularly rappers. I have one of which he's in
• 2:40:50
  prison right now, for January 6th and I can almost guarantee
• 2:40:54
  he'll come on and talk with us once he's out and about a month
• 2:40:57
  or so. And I have a bunch of Dungeons
• 2:41:02
  and Dragons related people because of the big he had.
• 2:41:04
  He had his friend on about a week ago and I said I I would
• 2:41:09
  come on and shit happened in my real life.
• 2:41:11
  I didn't get a chance. You know, I've promised.
• 2:41:13
  Hey, I'm going to not only bring him on.
• 2:41:15
  I'm going to bring one of these old-school D&D guys.
• 2:41:17
  I know on, because if he's into DND, he'll appreciate it, you
• 2:41:21
  know, and we can just have a chat like that.
• 2:41:23
  Unfortunately, it was like this week, everybody's like, no can't
• 2:41:27
  make it. Yeah, well, you know, yeah, so
• 2:41:30
  happened though, right? Yeah, it also, I mean, I do kind
• 2:41:35
  of want to clarify for people because I don't, People
• 2:41:39
  understand really how I got involved in the whole Owen thing
• 2:41:46
  the way I did. Basically what happened was once
• 2:41:50
  I endorsed Trump, a lot of the people who who I wasn't who I
• 2:41:57
  was in contact with to do like interviews and whatnot.
• 2:42:01
  They are what never Trump and then 0 and at the time or rather
• 2:42:05
  one of the people that Apex and I know I know basically brought
• 2:42:11
  me in to do encircle and wanted me to interview Owen as
• 2:42:15
  potential guests and like, you know, kind of do like a co-op of
• 2:42:21
  content on his stuff and then 0 and went just batshit insane.
• 2:42:26
  And yeah. So did me cocky talk shit about
• 2:42:32
  you too. It was another like yes.
• 2:42:35
  It's gonna say it sounds to me like again and this seems to be
• 2:42:37
  a thing. A lot of people do.
• 2:42:39
  Done. And that's why that's why Apex
• 2:42:41
  like stood by you when he did is because a lot of people see you
• 2:42:44
  as a fucking token, they can use to push their shit.
• 2:42:46
  Yeah, well exactly. Thank you.
• 2:42:49
  That's a good point and nobody wants to fucking say it out loud
• 2:42:52
  because it might like upset you or your fit?
• 2:42:54
  I know. Won't I know you fucking, right?
• 2:42:56
  And you get aggravated by that shit too.
• 2:42:58
  Yeah. Because it's because it's so
• 2:43:02
  obvious when people do it right? The oh yeah, we'll get you
• 2:43:05
  interviews and we'll take you up the ladder and we'll blah blah
• 2:43:07
  blah blah blah and meanwhile their shit talking you, right?
• 2:43:10
  Yeah, especially the marshes. The the like the mercy example
• 2:43:14
  is so blatant for anybody that like, that has some perspective
• 2:43:20
  on both sides. You know.
• 2:43:21
  It's like I was nice to you. I did you a favor?
• 2:43:26
  Like, dude, his whole fucking crazy mind.
• 2:43:29
  Tality. Am I right?
• 2:43:31
  His whole it was a woman told you?
• 2:43:33
  I'm sorry. Frizzing, that's probably about
• 2:43:35
  100 fucking percent. Everything's transacting.
• 2:43:38
  All right, I'll do this for you and I think it's even it's even
• 2:43:43
  beyond that because It's like, I'll, I'll be no, I don't know,
• 2:43:50
  man. Like yeah, I'll be nice to this
• 2:43:52
  fucking crippled retarded fucking retard that your do do,
• 2:43:58
  do, do, do. But clearly, that's what I meant
• 2:44:00
  about all along that if you try saying it exactly.
• 2:44:04
  Like I he didn't want anything to do with Sammy.
• 2:44:07
  He thought there was something he could gain and when Sammy is
• 2:44:11
  involved with the people that are fucking digging Dig in
• 2:44:17
  there, fucking thumbs into his rib cage, his fat fucking rib
• 2:44:21
  cage through the internet and up on his on his streams.
• 2:44:26
  It's so funny dude because we talk shit about Marsh many times
• 2:44:32
  in previous shows but the first time we have Alan Powell on the
• 2:44:36
  show and we announce it as such. We did it on Twitter you titled
• 2:44:42
  it. I think as the Alan Powell
• 2:44:45
  episode who is Is you know not only owns worst nightmare but
• 2:44:51
  apparently Mauritius as well. How dare you talk to somebody
• 2:44:54
  that I don't like? Yeah, it was even worse.
• 2:44:57
  How dare you talk to somebody that talk shit about me?
• 2:45:01
  Yeah. Expected.
• 2:45:03
  Well, you know, well in the thing of it is 2, is it regards
• 2:45:06
  to the whole situation? I've you and I actually both
• 2:45:09
  knew Alan before we knew merge two.
• 2:45:13
  That that was. Yeah, that was that was the
• 2:45:15
  weird thing is And Alan was another person who Marsh at
• 2:45:20
  first tried to look kind of like suck up to because Alan was the
• 2:45:25
  one who made that like funny monster monster truck video of
• 2:45:31
  nose. Dirt bikes on dirt bike video.
• 2:45:34
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 2:45:36
  Nana hand, and do that. It still exists somewhere.
• 2:45:40
  Dude, it is fucking so good. Yeah, it's a dirt bike Max.
• 2:45:45
  It's a You know, like a professional dirt bike race, you
• 2:45:50
  know, like fucking 15 bucks on the track, but they're all like,
• 2:45:54
  Owen sounds gone mad fucking, it's incredible.
• 2:46:01
  It's so good. Yeah, but yeah, it got struck
• 2:46:04
  down. Pretty much immediately by the
• 2:46:06
  are pretty quickly by the, you know, whoever runs the fucking
• 2:46:10
  professional dirt bike shit. But yeah, well, the thing is
• 2:46:16
  Like I point out in the people, you know, see you as like a
• 2:46:19
  token that they can ride to some some level of notoriety and it's
• 2:46:23
  later on. Why am I working with you has
• 2:46:26
  nothing to do with that. Why I work with you is because
• 2:46:29
  I've worked with a lot of guys over the years making content
• 2:46:32
  that I say, hey, could you do this thing?
• 2:46:35
  And then they don't find do it. Everything I've ever asked of
• 2:46:37
  you, you know, you get done or if you see, ya can't do it, you
• 2:46:41
  fucking say, so, and, and hey, I need help with fucking whatever
• 2:46:45
  like that to me, goes a fucking Million Miles because I know, I
• 2:46:49
  know people who are much more, I guess able-bodied.
• 2:46:52
  Then you that, well, fucking get off their ass to fucking do a
• 2:46:55
  damn thing. Well, well, I'm part and part of
• 2:46:59
  that is because of what I do like I are l so to speak because
• 2:47:04
  like I have People who have like paid me to help like manage
• 2:47:08
  their, you know, websites or their blogs, or whatnot,
• 2:47:11
  professionally. Right.
• 2:47:12
  So when they, when they, when they message me like, hey, can
• 2:47:16
  you update this page or something?
• 2:47:18
  Like I'm, you know, that's what I do.
• 2:47:21
  So, yeah. Well and you know how, you know
• 2:47:23
  how I delegate tasks like that. I explain why I need somebody to
• 2:47:27
  do it and all that fucking shit and you just always fucking
• 2:47:30
  there to do it. And so for me, that kind of
• 2:47:33
  initiative, that kind of Agency goes a million miles plus.
• 2:47:38
  It's like I said, your personal. You ask it questions and I
• 2:47:41
  thought to myself, I honestly thought to myself, we're wasting
• 2:47:44
  this guy dealing with these fucking.
• 2:47:46
  Well cows, yeah, look. Hey, hold on, I want to pause
• 2:47:50
  you right there because I have been saying that from the time.
• 2:47:57
  That I unfortunately introduced Sammy to The Wider realm of log
• 2:48:02
  house including mr. Ralph.
• 2:48:06
  Yeah, I heard you say it. We had this conversation off.
• 2:48:10
  Are the time I was on the show to write is like yeah, yeah this
• 2:48:13
  is not like it brings fucking problems but no real benefit no
• 2:48:19
  benefit man. It's so well.
• 2:48:20
  Tread and Sammy is hat is and always has been better than
• 2:48:26
  Making it like a folks, the Owen thing was different because that
• 2:48:30
  was a little more and I mean, to be fair, even to be honest in
• 2:48:37
  retrospect, even that went on way too long.
• 2:48:40
  Yeah, you know, yeah, that's the thing now is because I'm not
• 2:48:44
  opposed to going to war with people but the beauty of him
• 2:48:48
  working with us is like me and shmuly.
• 2:48:50
  We're like experts at that kind of shit and and I have a
• 2:48:54
  platform. I have a I have a A thing
• 2:48:57
  separate from Sam show where we could do that right.
• 2:49:00
  But yeah, particularly like the idea from the get-go has been
• 2:49:04
  the Wednesday show to be the fucking the the flagship where
• 2:49:08
  we get the big guests and the Monday show, be the new show and
• 2:49:12
  then if he does the third show week just have fun.
• 2:49:15
  And I love that. I fucking love that dude.
• 2:49:18
  It's the one thing I've wished I could do fried and I just
• 2:49:23
  haven't had the mental capacity to do because I'm not a tech
• 2:49:26
  guy. Hi, I'm not even really an
• 2:49:28
  internet guy, you know what I mean?
• 2:49:30
  I'm Ian. I enjoy the shit out of what I
• 2:49:34
  get, but I have also in recent years understood the detriment,
• 2:49:40
  you know, there's a lot, there's a lot going on upstairs for me,
• 2:49:44
  well, not that much because I'm fucking retarded as most of the
• 2:49:47
  audience already. You know, not everybody's cut
• 2:49:50
  out for the low cash it either. It's like I can I can dish it a
• 2:49:55
  lot better. Well now I can dish it as well.
• 2:49:58
  As I could take it. I could dish it better than I
• 2:49:59
  can take it and I can take quite a bit.
• 2:50:02
  That's what I mean. Yeah.
• 2:50:03
  No. I can take it a lot better than
• 2:50:05
  I can dish it. That's part.
• 2:50:06
  That's kind of part of my problem.
• 2:50:08
  Yeah, I'm probably of of the whole little team we got going.
• 2:50:13
  Now, I'm probably the best person for an attack, you know,
• 2:50:17
  but I've been trying not to the only attack.
• 2:50:20
  I've gone Reese, I guess the Johnny Fox thing again for
• 2:50:23
  anybody. It doesn't happen again.
• 2:50:26
  Johnny Fox docs to my family and accused my brother of being a
• 2:50:30
  pedophile. So it's a bit personal.
• 2:50:33
  Like if he also plagiarized my brother and claimed to write
• 2:50:38
  books that my brother had written, at least most of, and
• 2:50:41
  all this other stuff. So that was personal the the
• 2:50:44
  spurge except Mirai the guy with the eye patch who doesn't wear a
• 2:50:47
  shirt. Yeah.
• 2:50:48
  Oh yeah. He attacked me.
• 2:50:51
  He attacked me. I did one show about all of his
• 2:50:53
  old cringe videos and I felt like we were square at that
• 2:50:56
  point. And he hasn't come back since
• 2:50:58
  because I hit him a lot harder than he hit me.
• 2:51:02
  It's hard, like, he made fun of he called me ugly, and old, and
• 2:51:05
  I'm like, yeah, well, I'm like a 40 year old married, man.
• 2:51:07
  I don't care. Sleep.
• 2:51:11
  What do you mean, right? No, thanks, I'm hot.
• 2:51:15
  So I don't care what you think. Well, one and that one that's
• 2:51:19
  like why that's part of the reason why mersh got mad at me.
• 2:51:23
  Two parts on was because like, he got, he got mad at my
• 2:51:27
  reaction video to him because like, he was expecting me to
• 2:51:32
  like be hurt, but he'll I, consoled me.
• 2:51:34
  And I'm like, yeah, dead, I'm glad you called him retarded.
• 2:51:39
  And you were, That's what he's mad about.
• 2:51:45
  He did like a, how long of a show and he cut he covered like
• 2:51:52
  30 minutes of our show and he did like a 22-hour show or
• 2:51:56
  something. Yeah, he covered like he covered
• 2:52:00
  like half an hour of his. Yeah.
• 2:52:03
  But you did like a whole two hour show and I don't, I don't
• 2:52:10
  watch not, I don't watch, you know, night way.
• 2:52:12
  So I had like I no idea that he had done you and show everybody
• 2:52:17
  else in the world doesn't right. Yeah, so I decided I had no idea
• 2:52:23
  that he had even done a show at us until like the day after and
• 2:52:27
  then when he called me, like, when he called me like, you
• 2:52:30
  know, crippled and like he I could tell he was expecting it
• 2:52:34
  to be like really hurt, but he got really mad when I was like,
• 2:52:38
  yeah, I'm crippled. So what but what is it that
• 2:52:42
  people think though? Do they think that no one's ever
• 2:52:44
  said this kind of shit to you before and it'll just crumbly
• 2:52:47
  like a fuck? Well, yeah.
• 2:52:49
  Well they thing. They think the I love it.
• 2:52:52
  They think that I live in a bubble and I'm and I'm super
• 2:52:55
  sheltered because that's the that's the stereotype of
• 2:52:59
  disabled people that we're all like super sheltered.
• 2:53:03
  Yeah. Which is, which is not my
• 2:53:05
  experience at all. But no, no, they don't, they
• 2:53:09
  don't realize that. Like when I was, when I was in
• 2:53:11
  junior high, like my friends and I would all call each other,
• 2:53:14
  like, the worst nicknames, you know, unlike a Dilly, Unlike a
• 2:53:20
  daily basis. Actually have I have a good
• 2:53:23
  family friend that he has cerebral palsy and everybody
• 2:53:28
  legitimate because he's old now and he doesn't have teeth.
• 2:53:30
  So he's very hard to understand, right?
• 2:53:33
  But I'm used to him, I know what he's saying.
• 2:53:37
  And everybody assumes he's retarded, but he's actually like
• 2:53:41
  he's got a master's degree in history.
• 2:53:44
  Me and him bleh fucking chess. He knows like me and him would
• 2:53:47
  talk about the history of Wrestling like he knows like
• 2:53:50
  some really crazy wild. You know, wrestling lore and
• 2:53:54
  collect stuff and but everybody else that sees him, they see
• 2:53:59
  this guy in a wheelchair and he can't control his hands and he
• 2:54:03
  can't talk properly and they literally assume he has what
• 2:54:06
  used to be called mental retardation.
• 2:54:08
  I'm not sure what the word is for it.
• 2:54:10
  Now, it's not down syndrome because that's not the same
• 2:54:12
  thing, but you know what I mean? I mean, mental retardation is a,
• 2:54:16
  is a good. It's an effective like medical
• 2:54:21
  description. Yeah.
• 2:54:22
  You know what I mean? Yeah.
• 2:54:24
  So but you know this guy he wasn't that he had cerebral
• 2:54:27
  palsy. He's a really intelligent guy
• 2:54:30
  and if not for my father-in-law who would always give everybody
• 2:54:33
  the benefit out, maybe I wouldn't have play chess with
• 2:54:35
  this guy, right? Because I had the same thought
• 2:54:39
  as like well why would I play chess with this guy?
• 2:54:41
  Right? He doesn't look very smart and I
• 2:54:44
  learned a lot in that and I was an adult when this happened.
• 2:54:46
  I learned a lesson. I still talk to the guy all the
• 2:54:51
  time, you know. Well will that well, that's
• 2:54:54
  well, that's kind of, that's kind of the whole thing of why I
• 2:54:58
  think that, like mercy and if you these other people, like,
• 2:55:01
  they always underestimate me, right?
• 2:55:03
  But then when they, when they figure out that, I'm smarter
• 2:55:07
  than they think, I am it really pisses, which is funny because
• 2:55:13
  because the bar of what they think you are is really really
• 2:55:16
  low unreasonably. So So for anybody like yeah,
• 2:55:21
  it's funny to me. But yeah, all this is to say,
• 2:55:24
  look man over here on team Whitfield like we will clap
• 2:55:28
  back, we'll fight back, we're will defend ourselves, but we're
• 2:55:31
  just not looking to, we're not looking to get involved in, like
• 2:55:35
  the Ethan arouse Saga or anything.
• 2:55:39
  I mean yeah and that's how I would argue.
• 2:55:42
  That's never been the case even though I agree I just want I
• 2:55:48
  want the fucking audience to be sure of that right well you been
• 2:55:53
  even with the Vicar's thing like a lot of that had to do with I
• 2:55:58
  think good good sir like my whole my whole thing on that was
• 2:56:05
  this this guy mr. Vickers is way more.
• 2:56:08
  Interesting than just the E drama.
• 2:56:11
  Yeah I don't like it like he has he has a coin shop and now like
• 2:56:15
  you know he's a he's a he's a really interesting character he
• 2:56:19
  did like go slumming used to have these crazy haunted house.
• 2:56:22
  All this shit that like the Kiwi farmers are like are bad about
• 2:56:25
  him or whatever they think is awful.
• 2:56:27
  I'm leaning over half human half demon grandchild.
• 2:56:30
  What the fuck? How about he sounds more
• 2:56:33
  interesting? All I can think is, he sounds
• 2:56:35
  like a pretty cool dad, I give you as your daddy.
• 2:56:38
  You know it's be all right because he's into cool shit.
• 2:56:42
  Ain't helping run a fucking haunted house on Halloween.
• 2:56:45
  Yeah that would be a good childhood memory, I don't know.
• 2:56:48
  Yeah, yeah. No.
• 2:56:50
  I went on his show and talked about coin collecting for two
• 2:56:53
  hours. Drove the Kiwi, Farmers.
• 2:56:54
  Crazy. Yeah.
• 2:57:00
  Yeah, you know, and he and I were on a three-hour rant about
• 2:57:03
  Batman, you know, the when he when I went on his show the
• 2:57:08
  first time and look, that's not to say, we don't find the Ethan,
• 2:57:12
  Ralph drama hilarious because the Dude, his court filings are
• 2:57:16
  so dumb. That's the dumbest shit I've
• 2:57:19
  ever heard. He it's amazing.
• 2:57:22
  It's hilarious. And I do watch those episodes of
• 2:57:24
  the Vickers. Yeah.
• 2:57:26
  Like I say though, it's just like we don't have any person.
• 2:57:29
  Well connection around. So there's no point in dragging
• 2:57:32
  us into it. With Marsh with Owen Benjamin,
• 2:57:35
  you have a personal connection there.
• 2:57:37
  So, both those make sense to me. Yeah, I think the, I think the
• 2:57:42
  collection the heaters. Sorry.
• 2:57:45
  Before I forget because I tend to is I think it's the, you
• 2:57:50
  know, the connection to the Vickers.
• 2:57:53
  I think it's Sam's Association, you know.
• 2:57:58
  That's what's that's up to him. And if it doesn't, if he doesn't
• 2:58:02
  want to change that then fuck him, right?
• 2:58:04
  No, of course not. But I'm just speculating as to.
• 2:58:08
  And I think that may even be the reason that YouTube channel got
• 2:58:11
  suspended. I think, you know, I think I
• 2:58:14
  think it made it more likely for the little, you know, cozy fans
• 2:58:19
  or whatever to fucking come flag.
• 2:58:21
  His channel down for sure. Yeah, I call him hog logs Well,
• 2:58:29
  I wouldn't be surprised and, and, you know, we're not going
• 2:58:32
  to sit here and say there wasn't shit that might have been
• 2:58:35
  against the terms of service or whatever.
• 2:58:37
  It's just like the episode there.
• 2:58:41
  Definitely was. I told I told the audience to
• 2:58:43
  kill themselves on like, fucking like, like one of your 30
• 2:58:48
  consecutive episodes base. But yes, like, yeah, no one's,
• 2:58:53
  no one's denying that. It's just the episode he got.
• 2:58:56
  Ben during he's literally talking about like a family
• 2:59:00
  funeral and what he's going to do on the show, going forward
• 2:59:04
  and saying, uh, you know, the co-hosts he-he's lefties, you
• 2:59:07
  know, working on himself or whatever.
• 2:59:09
  And we're going to do this and then the fucking show was gone
• 2:59:11
  and I was like YouTube, you motherfucker well I haven't I
• 2:59:16
  have a confession to make guys. I was drunk and on mushrooms and
• 2:59:20
  I created seven different YouTube accounts right after I
• 2:59:24
  was like Sammy I need to take a break.
• 2:59:26
  And I went and I flagged the fuck out of that video with like
• 2:59:31
  based 14 14, different YouTube channels.
• 2:59:35
  I got in contact with keemstar I'm like hey make sure this
• 2:59:38
  motherfucker goes down because I'm that channel is dying with
• 2:59:42
  me because I was trying to kill. I was actually I was trying to
• 2:59:45
  kill myself and I failed because I figured out you can't tie the
• 2:59:55
  drawstring. Of yes.
• 3:00:00
  What bands we are around around your platform bed.
• 3:00:03
  That's a foot off the ground. It doesn't work.
• 3:00:05
  Kill yourself that way. We got bailed.
• 3:00:08
  We owe you a big thanks, because we're having so much fun.
• 3:00:14
  Yeah, that's the best part of this is like, if the best
• 3:00:18
  revenge is living. Well, I'm happy.
• 3:00:21
  Because I stopped talking politics on YouTube.
• 3:00:24
  So I talked about this when I guessed it on Sam show because
• 3:00:28
  Tim pulls people copy, claimed me because I showed a video
• 3:00:34
  where he somebody pulled his hat off and he had a bald head.
• 3:00:37
  He didn't own the video. He doesn't own the video at all.
• 3:00:41
  The guy that owned the video. Gave me permission.
• 3:00:43
  But yet Tim pool gave me to copyright strikes.
• 3:00:46
  And then sent an email that they were gonna send.
• 3:00:48
  They were going to send in a third on me.
• 3:00:52
  If I don't talk down, if I didn't just that video, but I
• 3:00:56
  did an entire series of videos called Tim, pool is resort in
• 3:01:00
  pool, doesn't understand. And then whatever the topic was,
• 3:01:03
  I did like three or four weeks of that every day I pick at in
• 3:01:06
  pool video and explain why he doesn't understand what he's
• 3:01:09
  fucking talking about and he demanded that I remove all those
• 3:01:12
  videos and not make anymore. And you know what?
• 3:01:15
  I can't fight Tim pool. I don't have the platform.
• 3:01:19
  I don't have the support, I don't have the money, so I
• 3:01:21
  stopped talking politics on YouTube.
• 3:01:23
  So this this chance to talk candidly with Sam, you know, on
• 3:01:28
  Mondays. I actually really look forward
• 3:01:30
  to it. Now, it's been, yeah, it's been
• 3:01:32
  a lot of fun. Well, and well Mike, I'm not
• 3:01:36
  like an economic long. So it's nice to have someone who
• 3:01:39
  is you can actually explain like, what is this whole banging
• 3:01:43
  crash actually. Because I mean, the other thing
• 3:01:46
  too, that I roll Like about like having conversation stations
• 3:01:50
  with Max, is everyone in politics, is on the internet.
• 3:01:55
  Seems to be a seems to be a Doomer, right?
• 3:01:57
  It's all, you know, they it was. Hold on.
• 3:02:00
  They all have an agenda. It's all money.
• 3:02:02
  They, all right. Had money coming from One
• 3:02:05
  Direction or the other, I don't necessarily think he's talking
• 3:02:08
  about like, the the influencers as they say, or whatever.
• 3:02:12
  But more, just like generally people talking politics, right?
• 3:02:16
  Okay. because because because most people talking politics, do
• 3:02:20
  you have a very Extremely negative outlook on what they
• 3:02:25
  think for the future to put it nicely as possible.
• 3:02:29
  Sure as do most people, I talk to in real life, right, right.
• 3:02:34
  I mean, it's not it's not completely unwarranted neither
• 3:02:39
  but But while we look, I would hear good good.
• 3:02:43
  Sorry. But like having someone having
• 3:02:47
  someone, you know who can explain like what the economic
• 3:02:51
  crash is that without it being like, and it was the Jews fault
• 3:02:55
  or something like or or that it's gonna be the end of society
• 3:02:59
  because it wasn't, you know. Yeah.
• 3:03:01
  Right. I mean, I probably was the Jews
• 3:03:03
  fault, but yeah, just kidding. Just kidding, guys.
• 3:03:11
  We can say that. I guess we can we can say that I
• 3:03:15
  survived. I said so much worse than that
• 3:03:19
  on YouTube. I bet that's cool for years.
• 3:03:23
  Crazy. I knew though, I knew when I
• 3:03:25
  started talking politics with Sam but I figured I would get
• 3:03:29
  banned. So I was actually planning on
• 3:03:30
  not sitting in as a co-host and that's why he calls me producer.
• 3:03:34
  I was going to do more production because I figured I'd
• 3:03:36
  just get us in trouble but then he got banned.
• 3:03:38
  And I'm like, you know what? Fuck it.
• 3:03:41
  Well, and like what he needs? Is this what he's getting at is
• 3:03:45
  I'm generally kind of white pill because I look at kind of a long
• 3:03:48
  game. I feel like a lot of people are
• 3:03:52
  very short-sighted and that's why they're there.
• 3:03:54
  So do Marie, things are bad right now, for most people.
• 3:03:57
  And so it's understandable to feel like things are bad and
• 3:04:01
  that they might, not improve, but that doesn't bear out with
• 3:04:04
  history and it certainly, there's a lot of factors that I
• 3:04:09
  think people. Understand people think that the
• 3:04:11
  system we live in is a much more fragile than it is and that's
• 3:04:15
  the real thing. It's cathartic to imagine a
• 3:04:20
  Fallout situation and then forget that in the game of
• 3:04:24
  Fallout you're essentially a superhero, right?
• 3:04:27
  Yeah. Yeah, life, you're not in real
• 3:04:29
  life, you don't want to. I'll tell you right now.
• 3:04:32
  Anybody thinking is that watches this and so I can't wait for the
• 3:04:35
  Civil War. No, yeah, you can.
• 3:04:37
  Yeah, that's me you're not ready for that.
• 3:04:40
  That you're not ready for the level of brutality that you're
• 3:04:42
  discussing about eats a LARP, it's a cope and it's a cope
• 3:04:46
  because things are so bad that you think that they're not going
• 3:04:52
  to improve throughout some radically drastic thing
• 3:04:55
  happening, right? But what if that thing is, not
• 3:04:59
  only not going to happen, but not not possible, right?
• 3:05:02
  Then you're wasting your fucking time.
• 3:05:05
  Hey guys, I'm going to make a, I'm gonna I'll be right back.
• 3:05:08
  So filled Yeah, don't turn the camera.
• 3:05:12
  It's the 50th Anniversary. Don't you dare turn that camera
• 3:05:14
  off. So well, I will me I will meet
• 3:05:20
  my like though because I assume that none of you guys want to
• 3:05:23
  hear me watching the toil and in the room next week.
• 3:05:26
  You don't have to keep your camera on Sammy.
• 3:05:28
  I'm sorry too. I'm not trying to bully you
• 3:05:30
  into, you know what? Yes, I am.
• 3:05:33
  You know, you know what the hell I might I might go and crawl for
• 3:05:37
  a beer though. After I go to the Ghost
• 3:05:40
  bathroom. Yeah, that's what I that's kind
• 3:05:43
  of what I was getting at. Yeah.
• 3:05:45
  See I know yeah. But yeah, I think.
• 3:05:51
  Yeah. In the Stream.
• 3:05:53
  I just I just think that most people are kind of LARPing
• 3:05:59
  hoping for a magical event that fixes, whatever problems that
• 3:06:04
  they experienced, most dearly. And that it's setting.
• 3:06:08
  People are setting themselves up for disappointment.
• 3:06:10
  When what really happens is stuff will get marginally better
• 3:06:15
  and then marginally worse and then marginally better in the
• 3:06:17
  marginally worse and that's what I mean.
• 3:06:19
  Dramatic changes. Do happen, though, Max, right?
• 3:06:21
  I mean, you can agree with that. That like an historically
• 3:06:25
  speaking, Yeah, politically and you do happen.
• 3:06:28
  It's it's we're not at that point is my contention.
• 3:06:32
  Sure. And everybody who's gone against
• 3:06:34
  me on that has been wrong. Because I've been saying this
• 3:06:38
  for like, I know, the do more thing is newer among a lot of
• 3:06:42
  people, but I've been dealing with Boomers who have this kind
• 3:06:45
  of opinion for at least 20 years and every time it's like, ah,
• 3:06:49
  there was this one guy in particular, that was like in our
• 3:06:52
  Discord sir. Over and it would always be
• 3:06:54
  like, well in the springtime it's all going to kick off.
• 3:06:57
  And he said that every fucking year and I said, no, it's not
• 3:07:01
  and it still hasn't right? He literally messaged me.
• 3:07:04
  He sent me an e-mail today before January 6th and he's like
• 3:07:07
  everything's going to pop off tomorrow.
• 3:07:08
  You just watch and I did I watched a bunch of narcissistic
• 3:07:12
  grifters go in with their cameras out and say yeah, she's
• 3:07:15
  not good prosecuted. Well, the normies did but ya
• 3:07:19
  know I look I was thinking for the last Like minute or so.
• 3:07:25
  I wanted to say something like 5 minutes ago, but I didn't want
• 3:07:27
  to interrupt you, but you just reminded me that like I was
• 3:07:31
  mentioning earlier. We, I mean, we went off on the
• 3:07:35
  whole covid especially when the lockdowns started popping off
• 3:07:41
  and just that general area in time when everyone, well, not
• 3:07:48
  everyone, but a lot of people started getting particularly do
• 3:07:52
  Murray. On all ends of the spectrum.
• 3:07:55
  You know, many masks everywhere and fucking and I would argue,
• 3:07:59
  it's the largest contributor to do muralism is sure.
• 3:08:02
  But I said from the beginning, and it's surely documented on
• 3:08:06
  this show that I believed wholeheartedly and it's just,
• 3:08:12
  it's always been my nature. I guess.
• 3:08:14
  I projected kind of the the retard, you know, every man I
• 3:08:22
  guess, sort of I think the Doomer just some degree, you
• 3:08:25
  know, with the whole kill yourself, Motif that's just
• 3:08:29
  projection. But I I said from the get-go
• 3:08:32
  that and Barry wholeheartedly that I believed in, not only the
• 3:08:37
  American Spirit but the human Spirit to Triumph whatever light
• 3:08:42
  ahead and I had no doubt that we were in for some fucked up shit
• 3:08:47
  and that the people in power we're going to take advantage
• 3:08:50
  and that this disease may may or may not be.
• 3:08:53
  Be you know some like really bad.
• 3:08:59
  Yeah we just didn't know right we didn't know and that's what
• 3:09:02
  people like I was talking about like the kind of anti-vaccine
• 3:09:05
  movement. Its it is what a lot of them
• 3:09:07
  seem to forget is why did a lot of people go along with a lot of
• 3:09:11
  shit is because they literature admit we didn't know in a person
• 3:09:14
  in power was telling them. This is the right call?
• 3:09:17
  Yeah. And right now, it's as simple as
• 3:09:20
  that it really doesn't, you know?
• 3:09:24
  It doesn't boil for the average person.
• 3:09:26
  I mean, it doesn't amount to any more than that is like the
• 3:09:31
  example saying, this is what's going to keep us safe because we
• 3:09:34
  don't know about this and we didn't know.
• 3:09:36
  So that was true and so, that fear really resonated with
• 3:09:39
  people sure and then, you know, we don't have that fear anymore
• 3:09:43
  people, people even normies don't have that fear of covid
• 3:09:45
  anymore at all. Of course not.
• 3:09:47
  Yeah. Because it right because like
• 3:09:50
  even the people that consumed no news, As whatsoever.
• 3:09:54
  Say, in rural community, they went to their grocery store and
• 3:10:01
  there was signs out front. There were employees inside that
• 3:10:04
  were not letting you in or demanding that you wear a mask.
• 3:10:08
  And they're like, what were you, what the fuck, and then which
• 3:10:12
  prompts research for. And then all they get is, you
• 3:10:16
  know, whatever's on fucking TV. Genetic worst case scenario,
• 3:10:22
  they get the TV Best case scenario, they get two sides
• 3:10:25
  that are completely conflicting in the end.
• 3:10:29
  Both of them were mostly untrue, right?
• 3:10:32
  And, and exactly, that's the reality, and it's no wonder
• 3:10:37
  these people end up confused. Sure.
• 3:10:39
  I mean, and I always believed just, you know, being a child of
• 3:10:43
  the late 80s and early 90s, late 80s, and 90s.
• 3:10:48
  Understanding of basic, you know, virologist not, maybe not
• 3:10:52
  virality but just like how How things work and how the human
• 3:10:55
  body works and stuff and now it's not people aren't bleeding,
• 3:11:00
  it's not The Hot Zone. People aren't bleeding out of
• 3:11:04
  their assholes and dumped in their internal organs out.
• 3:11:08
  It's a flu, you know, like by all accounts by all everything
• 3:11:11
  that was reported. It was it was a flu and in this
• 3:11:15
  is a point that I made at the time.
• 3:11:17
  It's a flu that we didn't have Therapeutics for yet which made
• 3:11:20
  it. Yes, more dangerous.
• 3:11:22
  As soon as we got therapy, Next to the pandemic.
• 3:11:24
  At that point, it was over, right?
• 3:11:27
  It was, you know, it was contained and controlled to such
• 3:11:30
  a degree. And I was arguing about this
• 3:11:33
  earlier. Well, that wasn't arguing cause
• 3:11:34
  nobody argued with me. But the, the lockdowns at the
• 3:11:39
  initial voluntary, lockdowns, that Trump talked about were a
• 3:11:43
  voluntary and be there, not the lockdowns, you're thinking of,
• 3:11:47
  because the lockdowns you're thinking, of we're all done from
• 3:11:49
  the state and local level and it was all done.
• 3:11:52
  Every goddamn. Tin.
• 3:11:53
  Tin pot, dictator wannabe. Every fucking Banana Republic
• 3:11:58
  motherfucker. The thinks he can tell her, you
• 3:12:00
  know, every Karen in the world. You put your mask on, you gotta
• 3:12:03
  put your mask on. They all fucking loved it
• 3:12:06
  because they're authoritarians that hurt.
• 3:12:08
  Yeah. Guess what we're going to do?
• 3:12:10
  We're going to fill the fucking skate parks with beach sand.
• 3:12:13
  Bitch. Yeah, the bucket the public
• 3:12:16
  part. We're going to fill that shit
• 3:12:17
  with sand my so you can't have fun anymore.
• 3:12:21
  My absolute favorite pandemic. I've mentioned it before, is the
• 3:12:26
  video of the Orthodox Jewish rabbis cutting a lock on a park
• 3:12:30
  in New York city. So the kids could go.
• 3:12:33
  No. I think what the American shit
• 3:12:36
  I've ever seen in my life. I think my favorite is that
• 3:12:40
  Orthodox Jewish guy coughing on the police coming in to
• 3:12:45
  confiscate his n95 masks or whatever.
• 3:12:48
  He's like you can't you can't come in.
• 3:12:50
  I've got covid like right. In their Direction.
• 3:12:54
  Like a what it's a firearm is fucking awesome.
• 3:12:57
  I just love them. Cut in that lock, they get the
• 3:12:59
  bolt cutters, they cut it and they all just start cheering and
• 3:13:02
  in singing Hava, Nagila shit. I was like, this is so amazing.
• 3:13:09
  Our kids are going to fucking play in the park.
• 3:13:11
  Bitch. Shut the fuck up.
• 3:13:16
  You know, and I had that problem is they were this is another
• 3:13:19
  thing. People forget as a parent with a
• 3:13:21
  young kid, they're arresting parents taking their kids to the
• 3:13:23
  fucking park. I got scared.
• 3:13:26
  Can I take my kids to the park? Yeah, yeah.
• 3:13:29
  Imagine imagine you're in a lock-up.
• 3:13:32
  So what are you in for? Oh, I know I did.
• 3:13:36
  I was dealing drugs. What are you in for?
• 3:13:40
  I took my kids, kids to the fucking bar Park, all I could
• 3:13:44
  really think about was Even then I was thinking about getting
• 3:13:47
  rested in front of my fucking son over this retardedness.
• 3:13:53
  So I, so what did I do? Well, I don't look, I'm a strong
• 3:13:56
  independent guy. I didn't take my kids to the
• 3:13:57
  park though. You know, not early on I was I
• 3:14:01
  was nervous because I've been abused by police before.
• 3:14:05
  So if anybody is aware that cops can be, you know, out of bounds.
• 3:14:10
  It certainly me and so that there was a fear in that and
• 3:14:15
  that fear is powerful. That fear is what motivated
• 3:14:17
  people to get the vaccine even if they didn't want to because
• 3:14:20
  they were afraid of losing their jobs that fear.
• 3:14:23
  The fear did all kinds of things and also my biggest concern with
• 3:14:26
  the pandemic going forward. And thankfully, my kid is not a
• 3:14:30
  party to this because we didn't. We didn't make him a germaphobe,
• 3:14:34
  but most of the kids in his is age group.
• 3:14:38
  I'm not most, but a lot of them are going to have long-term,
• 3:14:42
  neurological, and psychological Hang-Ups about germs, and
• 3:14:46
  disease, and pandemics 100%. Yeah.
• 3:14:53
  Yeah, my kid, my kid was in the kindergarten class when they
• 3:14:56
  made them wear masks in school and I actively said these kids
• 3:15:00
  are learning to speak. This is not good and they know I
• 3:15:06
  literally said that I said that on this show.
• 3:15:10
  Sorry, I'm sorry, I didn't mean to read this.
• 3:15:12
  No, it's good for people. Fucking talk about it.
• 3:15:15
  The school's speech therapist. Talk to me about it and she was
• 3:15:20
  like, yeah, you're 100%, right? I'm just Not allowed to say it
• 3:15:24
  anymore because I'm teaching these kids speech therapy,
• 3:15:28
  right? And how am I doing it with a
• 3:15:30
  mask on? They can't see me form the
• 3:15:32
  fucking words. Yeah.
• 3:15:34
  So how much of, you know, human speech is derived or human
• 3:15:38
  communication? Rather is derived from
• 3:15:41
  interpreting, you know, facial expressions and movements of the
• 3:15:46
  mouth and body language. Of course, is learning
• 3:15:49
  pronunciation. This is why so many kids, they
• 3:15:52
  pronounce. F is wrong, right?
• 3:15:54
  Because they have to actually see the tongue in the teeth and
• 3:15:58
  how they move to get it and sure enough, what do you find?
• 3:16:02
  Well, the kids that did the year because they did almost a whole
• 3:16:05
  year in Massachusetts of masking the kids who were there.
• 3:16:08
  So it was from September beginning of the year, all the
• 3:16:11
  way until March of last year. More of them have trouble
• 3:16:17
  pronouncing. F's pH is th has and several
• 3:16:21
  other sound. Freeze.
• 3:16:23
  And it's like, they're all sound categories directly tied to and
• 3:16:27
  related to you being able to see the mouth of the person talking,
• 3:16:31
  so that you can see the proper way to form your words.
• 3:16:34
  So what you're saying, Max is essentially, Boston is going to
• 3:16:38
  have a whole new weird accent because of because of this cone.
• 3:16:44
  Yeah, shh. Yeah, not just bought.
• 3:16:46
  I'll also say this, Massachusetts has been number
• 3:16:49
  one in education and it is not even disputable like we're so
• 3:16:52
  far. In terms of testing and IQ
• 3:16:55
  scores and everything. We're so far above every other
• 3:16:56
  state, that it's not even comparable, that's not going to
• 3:16:59
  be true in five years, you watch.
• 3:17:02
  We're not even, we're not even gonna be in the top five.
• 3:17:04
  In five years, we're going to be in probably the middle of the
• 3:17:07
  pack. Yeah.
• 3:17:10
  And and you could argue that some of the the good education
• 3:17:13
  here comes from leftist policies.
• 3:17:15
  It does it comes from fucking spending I'm teen drilled and
• 3:17:18
  billions of fucking State dollars on education and I could
• 3:17:22
  argue about that you know as in a fiscally responsible kind of
• 3:17:27
  guy, I don't like that but the fact is that it worked to some
• 3:17:31
  degree in the education. In this state was so far above
• 3:17:34
  everybody else. And that this one decision I
• 3:17:38
  think is going to set all of that back.
• 3:17:41
  Probably so drastically that will never be in the top of like
• 3:17:45
  top it for Education again. Shame.
• 3:17:50
  Yeah it is a shame. It's a shame especially because
• 3:17:52
  you think about what we're Massachusetts lands in terms of
• 3:17:56
  the education of spectrum where the state with Harvard, where
• 3:17:59
  the state with MIT where the lake on the East Coast.
• 3:18:03
  You know, the intellectual Foundation of most stem Fields
• 3:18:06
  is Massachusetts, as well as most legal fields and a lot of
• 3:18:10
  like the highest and doctors and surgeons in the world study here
• 3:18:13
  as well, right? So, us losing our grasp on
• 3:18:16
  education. As well.
• 3:18:18
  Be us losing. The one thing that we had as a
• 3:18:20
  state, obviously, we don't have low taxes, right?
• 3:18:24
  We don't have a lot of freedom, but we had at least that and
• 3:18:28
  that's not going to be the case. And of course, as those test
• 3:18:31
  scores get lower, here's the, here's the fun side.
• 3:18:34
  Effect of all these Democrat programs as the test scores get
• 3:18:38
  lower. As we go further and further
• 3:18:39
  down the pecking order. In terms of Education, they're
• 3:18:42
  going to lose funding. And so it's going to get worse.
• 3:18:44
  It's a cycle. This is why Alabama's in the
• 3:18:46
  state that it is educationally. Now I know people will be like
• 3:18:51
  the public education system shit across the board.
• 3:18:53
  This is true. Yeah, for sure.
• 3:18:56
  But but that being said, right? Massachusetts was the best in
• 3:19:00
  the country which made it the best in the world and that's not
• 3:19:04
  going to be true anymore. Yeah, yeah and I mean, I think
• 3:19:09
  that that it's going to be taken across the board perhaps more.
• 3:19:13
  So in a Less so in like Florida because they didn't mask all the
• 3:19:19
  kids for a year. But yeah, there's going to be, I
• 3:19:22
  think there's going to be that hit because who liked who likes
• 3:19:25
  to lock Downs, in the masking more than teachers.
• 3:19:27
  Is there any group of people in this country the little bit
• 3:19:29
  more? So don't get drunk.
• 3:19:32
  Dear could do class, you know, with no fucking pants on, you
• 3:19:37
  know. I mean, why not?
• 3:19:38
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 3:19:39
  And and and say any wild thing you fucking want, right?
• 3:19:43
  That's a newer thing. Teach the teachers used to be
• 3:19:47
  worried about that. They don't see it's funny
• 3:19:49
  because there's more possibility of you going viral now than
• 3:19:52
  there was obviously 20 years ago.
• 3:19:55
  Like I remember when I was in in middle school, when the
• 3:20:02
  bush-gore election happened and None of our teachers, although
• 3:20:11
  especially my like history teacher would social studies
• 3:20:16
  teacher. You know, it was particularly
• 3:20:19
  interested in politics. That's what he, you know, he
• 3:20:21
  taught that the history of it basically, or at least to some
• 3:20:24
  degree. Nobody would even tell you who
• 3:20:28
  they voted for, right? Right nowaday use.
• 3:20:32
  They're saying, you know they take what kind of dildos they
• 3:20:35
  take in their fucking ass to fifth graders.
• 3:20:39
  And shit. Yeah, you know it used to be sad
• 3:20:42
  but in polite company you didn't speak about religion politics or
• 3:20:45
  abortion and now that's all most people want to talk really hone
• 3:20:48
  in politics, fuck the two things that are at the Forefront of
• 3:20:54
  modern at least popular conversation everything.
• 3:21:00
  That's why we're in this mess though.
• 3:21:01
  It's exactly. That's a boomer mentality.
• 3:21:04
  Right? The Boomer mentality was we
• 3:21:05
  don't talk about politics and we see the outcome of it.
• 3:21:09
  Is you've now created a generation that can talk about
• 3:21:12
  nothing else? Yeah the end.
• 3:21:15
  And look the lefties are left and whatever but it's still by
• 3:21:19
  necessity even on their end because the same problems that
• 3:21:22
  we're facing they're facing and then they have a whole set of
• 3:21:26
  problems that they care about the we don't.
• 3:21:28
  But the fact of the matter is is that not addressing politics not
• 3:21:32
  having that kind of discourse openly because of the Boomers
• 3:21:35
  kind of insular nature about this topic, makes it so that
• 3:21:39
  there's so many problems and so much going on and you feel like
• 3:21:42
  you could be the hero, the world that and then all your teachers
• 3:21:45
  say, you know, these left-wing and be nice and everybody is
• 3:21:49
  included in all this fuck. It's no wonder these activists
• 3:21:52
  exists and it's, it's literally directly derived from the
• 3:21:55
  Boomers. Love for the status quo and
• 3:21:59
  respect in Tradition and, and the, the sanctity of the
• 3:22:05
  institution and all this shit that Boomers.
• 3:22:08
  Yeah. Fucking 150 years ago, couple
• 3:22:12
  guys were like, hey, you know, we should do.
• 3:22:15
  We should make it like the American Family, political, or
• 3:22:20
  like societal Norm to not talk about religion, which is now
• 3:22:25
  separated from State. And politics which we are
• 3:22:30
  running fucking Buckwild and we will continue to do.
• 3:22:35
  So, progressively over the next several decades, just to make
• 3:22:40
  his Looks like he looks like he got the boot.
• 3:22:49
  Finally, I was waiting, I guess their beds.
• 3:22:58
  Booted, you are Apex. Oh man, what did you hear?
• 3:23:02
  What is the last thing? I said, I literally that's
• 3:23:05
  fucked up. I I wanted to bring it up since,
• 3:23:08
  you know, we have this. Now as a thing that can happen
• 3:23:12
  there was a super ChatOn Rumble say, Sam.
• 3:23:14
  If you'd like to take a look at that.
• 3:23:17
  Oh, oh, There was a maganet. Megan at work.
• 3:23:25
  Megan, new magazines, that work. Says, Catholicism is what we
• 3:23:31
  call a religion. Sam is Faking It.
• 3:23:36
  I'm not I'm not Catholic. What the fuck?
• 3:23:42
  I don't smell like you ever claim to be Catholic based Maga
• 3:23:47
  News Network, though. I just, I've never climbed I
• 3:23:50
  believe like I believe whoever that is is probably saying that,
• 3:23:56
  like, you're faking being crippled.
• 3:23:59
  Oh, Right? Because it's you need up here
• 3:24:02
  yet. Do you need a beer Samer?
• 3:24:06
  Oh yeah. We've just, we've just uncovered
• 3:24:09
  the same conspiracy. He's just faking it.
• 3:24:13
  Yeah, it's true. Yeah, I'm looking at him.
• 3:24:17
  He doesn't look crippled. I'm so crippled, I need to go
• 3:24:22
  and grab a beer. Yeah, I was gonna, he's gonna
• 3:24:26
  crawl, he's gonna literally crawl across the floor.
• 3:24:30
  Like like he wouldn't have a jungle gym set up.
• 3:24:33
  Hmm. You know?
• 3:24:35
  Yeah. I mean any real quick?
• 3:24:36
  You're right, dude? Any real cripple would have a
• 3:24:38
  series of monkey bars. Yeah.
• 3:24:41
  Where is it in the refrigerator pulleys and like rubber bands,
• 3:24:48
  look at him like, oh, I'm gonna crawl all dramatic.
• 3:24:53
  Yeah, I'm going to, I'm going to really sell it here.
• 3:24:56
  Look at how buff my arms are as a non crippled person pretending
• 3:25:00
  to be crippled. Poor fucking bastard.
• 3:25:03
  He just know. I do we expose them.
• 3:25:06
  So he has to go. All in, is what it is.
• 3:25:08
  Hmm, I think that Maga news networks, pretty astute.
• 3:25:14
  I mean that's a pretty good crawl.
• 3:25:16
  That is legs are crossed. That's pretty good.
• 3:25:19
  Core strength, man? I was like, I was like, yeah,
• 3:25:23
  Sam, I'll be around like 2:00. I got to get to go run a five
• 3:25:28
  mile and take a shower. You know how it is and then
• 3:25:34
  exposed quit. Soon become on Sam's merchandise
• 3:25:38
  will be the Catholicism is what we call a religion t-shirt.
• 3:25:44
  Oh dude. Can we get like a silhouette of
• 3:25:47
  him? Like he was just now like on his
• 3:25:51
  on his hands and knees with his feet crossed like it, maybe like
• 3:25:54
  a weird angle just like a solid silhouette.
• 3:25:58
  We were talking about doing like a like, the handicap symbol but
• 3:26:03
  with like sunglasses and a flat top on it and make that a
• 3:26:06
  t-shirt. Well, there's been a, I don't
• 3:26:10
  know if you're if you guys are familiar but there's been a long
• 3:26:13
  run. And bit here on Sammy's channel
• 3:26:17
  that he's got a chariot like from like Roman times with like
• 3:26:22
  blades that come out of the wheels and caltrops to to drop
• 3:26:28
  upon pursuers and shit like that.
• 3:26:31
  See he he had to ride. The he had to ride his chair
• 3:26:35
  past the door to make sure we. So I'm telling you, we got him.
• 3:26:39
  Yeah, he leaves the door open. No, he crawled.
• 3:26:43
  Out of the you guys in samcro? Yeah.
• 3:26:46
  Yeah. No.
• 3:26:46
  But I just saw him come. I saw him.
• 3:26:48
  Come past his chair. The cross.
• 3:26:51
  Oh yeah. Just peeled Sammy's face back
• 3:27:02
  and he's a he's a black woman. Do you know like the whole way
• 3:27:06
  seems to the runs the doors? Oh yeah.
• 3:27:08
  Yeah. I love that.
• 3:27:18
  That would be so great if he came through the closer hallway
• 3:27:21
  from the other direction, just kept going.
• 3:27:24
  If yeah. What would be great is if we're
• 3:27:27
  talking all this shit and he just like walks and casually.
• 3:27:31
  Yeah, after all this time. Look, I've seen that nigga's
• 3:27:34
  feet. He's crippled.
• 3:27:38
  Why are you looking at his feet? Well, like I was describing
• 3:27:42
  earlier when you were muted. He used to show the chat went.
• 3:27:46
  I first found Sammy is Discord. Friends used to be like take
• 3:27:51
  your shirt off. Show feet.
• 3:27:53
  Thank you, shirt off, Sammy you bitch.
• 3:27:55
  And he just, he just always took his shirt off and like showed
• 3:27:57
  his feet on cam. Well, now we know that.
• 3:28:01
  That's the thing. You can Super Chat same to do.
• 3:28:04
  Yes, you prick can probably still get him to do that.
• 3:28:08
  Yeah I need to add that as like a fifteen dollar.
• 3:28:14
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 3:28:14
  That that'll be a tear in the sea.
• 3:28:16
  Scription plan. Yeah, but take your shirt off.
• 3:28:22
  $25. Hi.
• 3:28:28
  My favorite thing, go. And all of this was when he
• 3:28:31
  showed me that Marsh thing. My favorite line, like, we've
• 3:28:34
  brought it back. So now the, I was nice to use.
• 3:28:38
  Now been become a meme, again, but what really struck me was
• 3:28:43
  Murr, saying, you'll never be bigger than me, and it's Like we
• 3:28:46
  get it more if you're really really fat, you know?
• 3:28:49
  Yeah, we if we could get some pulleys and the proper you know,
• 3:29:00
  harness could get Sammy to stand up straight to look like he's
• 3:29:04
  like standing upright like a like a Well, we could pretend
• 3:29:10
  like we've got a harness, you guys give it him so it can stand
• 3:29:13
  up like a normal person and say damn I'll never be as big as you
• 3:29:19
  type of thing. Nothing.
• 3:29:22
  What's well. He also said, he also said, Sam
• 3:29:25
  would always live in his shadow and it's like morash we all live
• 3:29:27
  in your Shadow. It's called the moon bitch.
• 3:29:36
  Yeah no I love that because I again he dedicated a tremendous
• 3:29:42
  amount of time clearly desperate for Content you know and did a
• 3:29:48
  show. Did you see on Twitter when I
• 3:29:50
  posted it? What his response was?
• 3:29:52
  Was yes Sammy and his booger which was a very familiar to me.
• 3:29:56
  Yeah it's like I had not seen that video and I was like this
• 3:29:59
  is your big. This is your big comeback.
• 3:30:02
  It was pretty look. It was, it was pretty funny.
• 3:30:05
  I'm not gonna lie to you. It's funny video.
• 3:30:07
  I kept it, I saved it. But like his as his big comeback
• 3:30:14
  after yeah, like you guys do love whatever the response.
• 3:30:18
  I think. Genius anus point.
• 3:30:22
  Posted something being like, well, I'm obliged.
• 3:30:24
  He tagged me in it. I can't remember exactly what it
• 3:30:29
  was. But tags me and saying something
• 3:30:33
  like shut your fucking mouth in Sam you know with a clip of
• 3:30:37
  Sammys video and Maurice responded with you you deserve
• 3:30:40
  each other or you can have each other or something like that of
• 3:30:43
  Sammy with the you know Thing chomping on the old book there
• 3:30:49
  is Yang is like what he doesn't get?
• 3:30:52
  Is everybody except him was laughing about his clip?
• 3:30:56
  Yeah, because his clip makes him look like such a fucking bastard
• 3:31:01
  and his response to that is all Sam, fucking ate a booger lay,
• 3:31:05
  who fucking care like? Yeah, that's funny.
• 3:31:08
  Don't get me wrong, that's funny.
• 3:31:10
  But if that Independence your gotcha, if that's your like,
• 3:31:13
  take this other guy down, Yeah, this fucking kid that's been
• 3:31:17
  streaming since he was like 12 years old.
• 3:31:19
  You mean the camera caught him eating a booger one time?
• 3:31:23
  Holy shit. But no, my point was that, he,
• 3:31:30
  he levied threats against me in those clips to because I was
• 3:31:35
  saying, oh, yeah, dachshund wasn't fucking illegal.
• 3:31:38
  It's not that like, obviously, I don't agree with it, but he's
• 3:31:41
  like, will fucking see will fucking see about that.
• 3:31:44
  Apex you know, and I mean, of course, he said it in the show
• 3:31:48
  but he's never It's always Sammy Sam.
• 3:31:52
  He's the he went to Sammy further the interview because he
• 3:31:56
  thought that would be some sort of Token card, he could pull,
• 3:32:02
  you know, exactly when the fact fired, he's only focused on
• 3:32:06
  Sammy. While I've been Sammy's co-host
• 3:32:09
  for years, literally years prior to that one particular show that
• 3:32:15
  we had Alan on that. He, that he felt so well.
• 3:32:21
  And it's fine because Mars has bigger problems and fucking
• 3:32:25
  Sammy these days, you know, whatever you think about pot
• 3:32:28
  awful. Like, that seems to be Be a
• 3:32:30
  bigger problem in his life but he still took the time to show
• 3:32:34
  it to share me a video of Sammy and his booger.
• 3:32:36
  And yeah, I saved it. And yeah, we'll play it again in
• 3:32:39
  the future. That's funny.
• 3:32:41
  But if he thinks that that was the takedown, right Sam's?
• 3:32:45
  Gonna quit. Now, it's all over with it.
• 3:32:49
  A booger fucking 10 years ago. Oh my god.
• 3:32:52
  Listen Derek, Derek clips of me like of me flat-out.
• 3:32:57
  Drunk on. Some No, I've already I've
• 3:33:01
  already been educating both of these gentlemen to your to the
• 3:33:05
  ease of removing your shirt / you Dragon one of them damn feet
• 3:33:10
  up into camera with a Suitor chat back in the day.
• 3:33:15
  I didn't require Super Chat. You had like six people in chat
• 3:33:19
  and they were all saying, take your shirt off.
• 3:33:21
  Bitch. You frightened me where we're
• 3:33:24
  putting price tags on that now. Yeah, we are putting price tag.
• 3:33:27
  Yeah, you want. The goods, you gotta pee.
• 3:33:31
  Yeah, 25 bucks. Yeah well because now we now we
• 3:33:34
  can yeah checkouts check out Sam's only fan.
• 3:33:38
  Yeah, someone that's a good fucking idea, man.
• 3:34:00
  Ironically ironically me shmuly and a friend of ours Iron Man
• 3:34:05
  actually considered doing a stream on only fans just because
• 3:34:09
  it's not as sensor assist. And yeah, fuck it.
• 3:34:13
  It's another platform. Dude, use it.
• 3:34:16
  The only thing I've ever cared about the reason I joined Sammy
• 3:34:19
  other than it being fun for me, which was the Lesser I wanted.
• 3:34:25
  It's had the same motivations as you max or as you guys Yeah, you
• 3:34:30
  and everybody involved with you is I stay me deserves better and
• 3:34:35
  I thought I could help Sammy and I have not, I did not really do
• 3:34:39
  that, I don't think but maybe you know, depending on how you
• 3:34:45
  calculate it. Well either way, I will frame it
• 3:34:49
  like this, you opened him up two different Avenues and top which
• 3:34:54
  leads him to you. Yeah, and here's one thing I
• 3:34:58
  want to say this because I do have to go my wife's expecting
• 3:35:00
  me, but I wanted one last word on this Marsh thing in
• 3:35:03
  particular. Right?
• 3:35:06
  There's one thing that he'll never get immersed, that Sam
• 3:35:10
  just got and I promise you this I can guarantee you that this is
• 3:35:14
  a true thing. You're never going to get an
• 3:35:16
  interview with Kurt Doolittle. That's never going to happen.
• 3:35:20
  Marsh, it's from never ever not in a million years and you know
• 3:35:24
  why? Because all I have to do, she
• 3:35:27
  morally, or some of these other people that have known, Kurt for
• 3:35:29
  a very long time. It's a don't bother with this
• 3:35:32
  guy. He's a bum, the Murphy, and
• 3:35:36
  mercy follows Kurt, 22. I know he does.
• 3:35:39
  That's why I want to point that out.
• 3:35:40
  I might even clip this and fucking adamant.
• 3:35:42
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well well we got barricade
• 3:35:48
  garage. So you guys are fucking gay and
• 3:35:54
  you can go have fun in your little Science class or
• 3:35:56
  whatever, but I got em, okay. I follow curb because he's a
• 3:36:05
  little cow. All right.
• 3:36:08
  He's fucking retarded. Just like that big a barely
• 3:36:12
  understand what he says the game is you know you got hurt do
• 3:36:15
  little but I got more views. So you think this is a game just
• 3:36:22
  me sitting here spitballing, it's bigger than you.
• 3:36:26
  With Kurt. All right.
• 3:36:28
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 3:36:29
  And we got a bunch of interesting fucking guests in
• 3:36:33
  the pike as well that you're never going to get.
• 3:36:36
  Right? Because here's the thing, you
• 3:36:39
  were nice to Sam but you're not really nice to anybody Marsh.
• 3:36:42
  Everybody looking dislikes you never know what Ethan?
• 3:36:45
  Let's be clear. Yeah yeah obviously and and like
• 3:36:49
  you don't endear yourself to people and you don't make ties
• 3:36:53
  with people and nobody finds your commentary interesting
• 3:36:57
  except the few people that That your are in, on your little
• 3:37:00
  pyramid, grift scheme and we're just going to be out here and
• 3:37:05
  we're going to do what we do. And we'll be what our topic
• 3:37:08
  Jabs. Motherfucker will be popping
• 3:37:10
  Jabs from far beyond your little T-Rex fat fucking.
• 3:37:16
  I looked at it. I looked at your stupid fucking
• 3:37:21
  Channel, Merce, not not the merchants, on the night wave,
• 3:37:23
  right? But like the good one.
• 3:37:25
  Supposedly the ROTC and where are Ten percent of the way there
• 3:37:30
  and I've only been helping Sam for two weeks so fuck you.
• 3:37:33
  How about that? Yeah, him and that him in that
• 3:37:35
  fat Puerto Rican, that's actually been lifting weights, a
• 3:37:37
  good for him. I've been doing this shit for a
• 3:37:42
  long time. Yeah.
• 3:37:44
  And what's the most memorable thing about them is that they
• 3:37:46
  had to fucking sing. Happy Birthday to Sticks.
• 3:37:49
  The most memorable thing about them to me is that Marsh lived
• 3:37:52
  on Royce's. Couch, with his in his wife,
• 3:37:55
  limited wife's house for like yeah, it's fucking A long time,
• 3:38:00
  but I've found that explaining murse to anybody.
• 3:38:03
  If I point out the fucking happy birthday incident, some of them
• 3:38:06
  at least remodel. Oh, that's so good because they
• 3:38:10
  say that's. So anybody that missed it.
• 3:38:12
  They called sticks hex in Hammer.
• 3:38:14
  A pedophile. We're completely blown out in
• 3:38:17
  the fucking debate about it and then as because it wasn't true,
• 3:38:21
  right? They just lied because yes just
• 3:38:23
  made up bullshit and then they had to as repentance or whatever
• 3:38:28
  sing. Him happy birthday because they
• 3:38:30
  did it on his fucking birthday on a live stream on what was
• 3:38:34
  that? That was only kill stream right
• 3:38:35
  now that that was on that was on morning that was on morning.
• 3:38:39
  Kumite Kumite. That's right.
• 3:38:40
  That was on the Kumite before the kill stream was any Han I
• 3:38:45
  had to go back and look because I wasn't into all that stuff so
• 3:38:48
  I didn't know that offhand but I had heard I heard the segment
• 3:38:51
  because it's in the porcelain document which by the way if you
• 3:38:54
  go to three fucking hour documentary about you, you know,
• 3:38:58
  Glass houses is All I'm gonna say incredible.
• 3:39:02
  Well Max thank you for being here.
• 3:39:07
  Look I'm talking like a been here the whole time.
• 3:39:09
  You can't the old coats and me wear glasses.
• 3:39:13
  I'll revert that we're glad to have you here.
• 3:39:15
  Yeah, always happy to be here, man.
• 3:39:18
  I love you guys and I love this crippled little bastard.
• 3:39:23
  It's cute. Little shit was over in the
• 3:39:25
  corner here. Lovely to see you Gundam but
• 3:39:28
  that Maxie said, you got to go, right?
• 3:39:33
  So I was just, I was just saying I have a you know you have a
• 3:39:35
  good night. It's been a pleasure 15 years,
• 3:39:39
  here's to, you know, least double that more.
• 3:39:42
  Yeah, yeah me too please he's got it in him.
• 3:39:46
  He's like a fucking Muay Thai Fighter that went professional
• 3:39:49
  at like 12, you know. He's just fucking And I don't
• 3:39:54
  know why that was the reference. I just used.
• 3:39:56
  Maybe I just, I just can't wait till he outgrows us, right.
• 3:39:59
  And then he's off on his own for bigger and better things, you
• 3:40:03
  know? I mean either because I have
• 3:40:06
  been very persistent in. I do not want, I've never wanted
• 3:40:10
  any money. I don't want to be monetarily
• 3:40:13
  involved. I just want to help.
• 3:40:15
  You know, but when Sammy starts making, you know, three million
• 3:40:20
  dollars, a year, just being crippled on the internet making
• 3:40:24
  content and I could have been the guy holding the camera and
• 3:40:27
  being like bababababa like fuck, I might be mad then, but nothing
• 3:40:33
  happened. There's always going to be spots
• 3:40:36
  for us on the show though, right?
• 3:40:38
  Yeah, yeah. All my, all my Origins, right?
• 3:40:43
  I'm part of the origin story you, right?
• 3:40:44
  So there's always going to be Be something there.
• 3:40:47
  Call me. I'll make sure what?
• 3:40:50
  Let me. Let me put it this way.
• 3:40:51
  I'll make sure that you get more of the smaller than mr.
• 3:40:55
  I was nice to you and I drive into and I and I drive a 2008
• 3:41:00
  Beamer. Well, that's exactly.
• 3:41:02
  That's exactly what I'm going to do when you outgrow me, right.
• 3:41:06
  As I'm just, gonna turn into mercy and just start being like
• 3:41:08
  a, yeah, I was fucking not, dude.
• 3:41:11
  I did all the work for you. You crippled bitch.
• 3:41:14
  I fucking say Well, let's see you like but see that's that's a
• 3:41:20
  good thing there too. Is like you, at least you at
• 3:41:23
  least did help out like mersh came on my show one time for
• 3:41:29
  never promoted you outside of that.
• 3:41:31
  Nope, yeah, exactly. So yeah.
• 3:41:36
  Well, on that note, I will. I will bid you all adieu with
• 3:41:39
  one final thing and that is a free Froggy Fresh and idubbbz is
• 3:41:43
  a bitch. Good night.
• 3:41:47
  Take it easy. All right.
• 3:41:53
  And right at the four hour mark. Yeah, we are do, do either of
• 3:42:03
  you Apex? What have you been doing?
• 3:42:05
  I know that Steely. I don't know if he's able to
• 3:42:09
  watch this, but still in particular has asked me where
• 3:42:13
  you've been and what you've been up to.
• 3:42:19
  I'll be honest with you man. I've been in the same place
• 3:42:24
  doing the same things as I was. Over the last, you know, several
• 3:42:29
  months of this doing the show. You know, I'm just I'm trying to
• 3:42:37
  dig out of a hole man and this show for a long time was an
• 3:42:42
  outlet for me. Yeah.
• 3:42:45
  And I think it still is But I've been doing like an Elimination
• 3:42:51
  Diet kind of thing where I'm trying to figure out.
• 3:42:56
  What the fuck is wrong? And the answer is obvious.
• 3:42:59
  I need to stop fucking drink and I need to move out of this
• 3:43:02
  piece-of-shit house with these people that I hate.
• 3:43:06
  And you know, move on with my life beyond the life I had when
• 3:43:10
  I met you you know. Yeah that's been the weird, you
• 3:43:16
  know, kind of bell curve of this hole.
• 3:43:22
  Relationship here is I've instead of the smart thing, just
• 3:43:27
  stepping away entirely have endured all of the suffering.
• 3:43:33
  Here on the internet with you. My friend.
• 3:43:36
  Yeah, and the audience so you know yeah I'm fine.
• 3:43:42
  I'm okay, I'm alive. Not super healthy but I'm still
• 3:43:47
  tall and skinny. So, well, well, you know, you
• 3:43:53
  and I have you and I, you and I at least have one of those thing
• 3:43:56
  and things in common. Well, I also have a huge dick so
• 3:44:02
  we also have that in common. Well, yeah, that anyway, but
• 3:44:09
  happy 15 years. Dude, I like to go on anymore
• 3:44:13
  and I've been alive forever. Thank you for letting me join
• 3:44:17
  now. Love you very much, dude.
• 3:44:19
  I really We do, and I look forward to your success in the
• 3:44:23
  future. Hey, hey, no problem.
• 3:44:26
  And thanks for thanks for helping.
• 3:44:30
  You know, in the, in the way that you did, and you really, it
• 3:44:34
  is funny, I'm sure Max will catch this, but if you hadn't
• 3:44:39
  invited Johnny Fox on or Falco, Punch, or whatever he was going
• 3:44:44
  under at the time and he had an autistic, we sperg doubt about
• 3:44:49
  Max, X on my show. I wouldn't be where I am.
• 3:44:53
  So in a weird way you helped with this shit, so I appreciate
• 3:44:58
  it. So, damn, is that true?
• 3:45:00
  Did I do that? Yeah, well because, because
• 3:45:03
  remember he was he was the Jack Puris like author guy.
• 3:45:09
  Oh yeah. He was like a Twitter dude.
• 3:45:12
  And I was like, hey, Yeah, I was trying to do like yeah, so I
• 3:45:18
  forgot about that. Yeah.
• 3:45:20
  So what happened, what happened with that was like so he came on
• 3:45:24
  my show and I don't know if you were there the or was one of the
• 3:45:29
  nights that you had to work. I think it might have been one
• 3:45:32
  of those, but like, he started like talking about, like his
• 3:45:36
  books, whatnot. Which is what we were supposed
• 3:45:38
  to, dude. Yeah, that's one of the show's.
• 3:45:41
  I was not there for that show. Go ahead sir.
• 3:45:43
  And I remember this well and then what happened was like in
• 3:45:48
  the midst of of him talking like one of his books, he just goes
• 3:45:54
  off on like he brings up like this random guy named Max.
• 3:45:58
  And who, like, who up to that point?
• 3:46:01
  It would been like it wouldn't like if we were talking like
• 3:46:04
  politics and all the sudden I brought up, dr.
• 3:46:08
  Seuss like for no? Yeah, he just went on like this.
• 3:46:14
  He just went on like this right out of left field that was like,
• 3:46:17
  completely unrelated to everything.
• 3:46:20
  And so I was just like, and so out of curiosity, I was like,
• 3:46:25
  well who is this? Max and guy that he's talking
• 3:46:29
  about? If this guy is as bad as he
• 3:46:31
  thinks he is, he's probably pretty cool, huh?
• 3:46:35
  And you know, like when you know I want to I want to be cautious
• 3:46:39
  of this guy so I liked him up in like he was like doing All this
• 3:46:43
  content on like basically like a poor man's, you know, Mister
• 3:46:48
  Medic or just like laughing. Yeah, out here like, you know
• 3:46:52
  what? Locales and talking about video
• 3:46:55
  games and whatnot. So I'm like, really that's who
• 3:46:58
  this guy is afraid of. So yeah.
• 3:47:03
  Well, let me just say you are very welcome. so now so I want
• 3:47:11
  to say it, I think I said this already but I Happy 15 years,
• 3:47:18
  buddy. It's crazy.
• 3:47:20
  It's fucking crazy. Yeah.
• 3:47:23
  What's, how you? What are you 26 now, 28?
• 3:47:30
  yeah, what I was I was I was 24 when I when I met you.
• 3:47:38
  Yeah which is crazy. That's insane, man.
• 3:47:41
  Yeah, fucking wild. I love you to death man.
• 3:47:46
  I really do. And I'm happy.
• 3:47:49
  I'm happy. You're doing well.
• 3:47:51
  Hold on. I meant to ask this earlier but
• 3:47:53
  there was a lot of clutter. Are you making?
• 3:47:57
  More or at least as much money now on.
• 3:48:04
  Being well, I'm making. I'm making more money here.
• 3:48:09
  I mean it's not a lot but I am like, I'm getting more viewers
• 3:48:14
  which I think is the more important thing but yeah.
• 3:48:16
  Like people are starting to donate now because of You know,
• 3:48:22
  Rumble and odyssey being able to do it.
• 3:48:26
  One of the things is like I guess a lot of people like to do
• 3:48:31
  donations through like Apple pay or like or you know, whatever
• 3:48:36
  the Android equivalent of that is which you can't do on Rumble
• 3:48:41
  zap, at least not yet but like it.
• 3:48:46
  I think what I think once you can do like mobile donations.
• 3:48:50
  Yeah that'll like you know, that'll change things so well
• 3:48:56
  yeah, that's always been my my concern was as getting you
• 3:49:01
  Traction in audience and, you know, there for money, you know
• 3:49:09
  what I mean? And I tried to do it other
• 3:49:13
  directions for a long time. But well and well, in to be
• 3:49:20
  fair, though, I mean originally, when when John are, when John
• 3:49:27
  are Cade first found me on Twitter like that.
• 3:49:30
  Well, that was the whole reason why he like that when he was
• 3:49:35
  from with Owen. He thought that I thought that I
• 3:49:38
  could help I went out with some of the political stuff and then
• 3:49:41
  Owen could give me more of a spotlight.
• 3:49:45
  Yeah. Then and then the whole you
• 3:49:50
  know, so like I don't really like I said I think that's one
• 3:49:54
  thing that people tell to understand is when I first when
• 3:49:59
  we first encountered I, when he was completely like he was
• 3:50:02
  normal, I'll be handled. Yeah.
• 3:50:05
  Basically, I'll be a little, a little goofy but that, you know,
• 3:50:10
  he was more like an eccentric. Steven Crowder type, you know
• 3:50:15
  guy. So yeah.
• 3:50:16
  It was just a six foot eight men that had been fucked in his ass
• 3:50:20
  from North Hollywood. Yeah.
• 3:50:24
  Yeah, I guess so. well, I don't want to, you know, I just got
• 3:50:34
  here but if I'm happy to say goodnight if you want to end the
• 3:50:39
  stream in. Yeah, I think I think, you know,
• 3:50:44
  we've been going for almost four hours.
• 3:50:47
  So now for hours and 10 minutes in 15 seconds.
• 3:50:52
  Yeah, pretty good. Pretty good for a, for an
• 3:50:56
  anniversary of live stream. So you know, thanks to thanks to
• 3:51:02
  everyone who came out, thanks to the genius, anus and vicious.
• 3:51:07
  Vickers for the donations tonight is huge.
• 3:51:13
  Genius, anus. Gave me like $30 and Playstation
• 3:51:17
  credits. And then oh, she's good.
• 3:51:21
  And then, Vickers gave me a donation, which I can't read
• 3:51:26
  right now because my PayPal account is tied to my phone,
• 3:51:29
  which I'm using as my as my webcam, but I'll be sure to
• 3:51:35
  upbeat. You're doing, bring that up on
• 3:51:37
  Monday. Show for sure.
• 3:51:39
  And then yeah just everyone who's popped in, I really
• 3:51:43
  appreciate it. So thanks for coming on
• 3:51:47
  everyone. So and and I want to say
• 3:51:51
  officially happy 15th. Well, thank you.
• 3:51:55
  I love you buddy. Well, thank you for having me
• 3:51:59
  all this time. So and you know, don't be a
• 3:52:04
  stranger, we'll hopefully, we'll have you back on, maybe not all
• 3:52:07
  the time, but on occasion. So, All right, but yeah.
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