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Wicked Radio 7-25: RIP Hulk Hogan, Why All The Hulk Hate?, & Is The View Cancelled?! · Wicked Radio with Bill Adams

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  Speaker 1: What you gonna do, brother? What an American weekend comes
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  Speaker 1: for you? And we're almost there, but not without sad news.
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  Speaker 1: What a week, good Lord, what a week for especially
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  Speaker 1: this is true and this really kind of speaks to
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  Speaker 1: gen X kids, kids of the eighties, a lot of you,
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  Speaker 1: me all in that group. The losses we've had this week,
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  Speaker 1: it's been a tough, tough week. Obviously the most recent
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  Speaker 1: lose losing Hulk Hogan, the American legend. I'm gonna get
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  Speaker 1: into something that really surprised me yesterday. I'm not a
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  Speaker 1: big wrestling fan. I never really followed that, but you can't.
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't a name and a personality like Hulk Hogan
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  Speaker 1: transcend wrestling though. I mean, it's just you're at icon
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  Speaker 1: status and losing him meant so much to so many people.
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  Speaker 1: But the American if you want to call it, pop culture,
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  Speaker 1: American culture, everything. It's a massive, massive loss. And of course,
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  Speaker 1: the week we had coming off of losing Ozzie and
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  Speaker 1: also speaking of the eighties, and we didn't even talk
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  Speaker 1: about this seeing Malcolm Jamal Warner from The Cosby Show,
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  Speaker 1: another eighties icon, and he really was from that show
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  Speaker 1: at fifty four and not to mention. We also let
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  Speaker 1: Chuck MANGIONI remember the trumpet Player. If you grow up
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  Speaker 1: in the eighties and nineties, you couldn't avoid that song
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  Speaker 1: in your house somewhere. So yeah, it's been tough for losses.
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  Speaker 1: But you know what, I think the takeaway today is
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  Speaker 1: never let anybody disparage who you consider a hero. Don't
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  Speaker 1: let them. We'll get into that in a second. But
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  Speaker 1: also it's a good reminder and I just got a
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  Speaker 1: feeling after all of this, it's got everybody more interested
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  Speaker 1: in bringing back icons again. Right. It's like when we
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  Speaker 1: lost Ozzie, there was a call for and the searches
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  Speaker 1: and the interest, according to Google trends, has never been
• 1:44
  Speaker 1: higher for metal music. The resurgence of the eighties and
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  Speaker 1: nineties just may be coming as well, because, let's face it,
• 1:51
  Speaker 1: let's be completely honest, wasn't it better? Didn't I don't
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  Speaker 1: want to be one of those back in the day guys,
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  Speaker 1: but wasn't it better with all the stuff we had?
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  Speaker 1: As cheesy as it was. Let's go back to that anyway,
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  Speaker 1: Let's get to it. Thanks for finding me, Thanks for
• 2:02
  Speaker 1: being here all week long. Appreciate it so much more
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  Speaker 1: There you go. Well it it comes across every once
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  Speaker 1: in a while as somebody that transcends whatever sport, genre
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  Speaker 1: form of entertainment they do. And you can't deny that
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  Speaker 1: Hulk Hogan was one of those personalities. I mean, the
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  Speaker 1: first thing I thought of this was he even had
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  Speaker 1: his own theme song. You remember this, remember, real American.
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  Speaker 1: I know you've seen it, just I mean you if
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  Speaker 1: you have your own theme song, and I guess that
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  Speaker 1: became part of his wrestling intro to. But you saw
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  Speaker 1: it everywhere and Hulks his name and his image were
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  Speaker 1: on serial boxes and in movies. Remember he was Thunderlips
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  Speaker 1: and Rocky three remember that one. In other people's music videos.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, the wrestling career, but all of that launched.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if I can think of anybody in
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  Speaker 1: any form of entertainment that grabbed a better hold of
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  Speaker 1: that image and took the reins of it and made
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  Speaker 1: it what it was. I mean, just absolutely amazing. Sadly,
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  Speaker 1: some of the details died at seventy one, shocking to
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people. I guess the insiders and people
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  Speaker 1: who knew him were saying that the health problems that
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  Speaker 1: dogged him through the years were just horrific. I had
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  Speaker 1: seen a Joe Rogan interview with Hull Cogan a couple
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  Speaker 1: of months ago that was done the previous year, I think,
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  Speaker 1: and he was talking about the injuries as you can
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  Speaker 1: imagine through wrestling, but he also in a massive battle
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  Speaker 1: with prescription drugs, Like he said, the doctors tried to
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  Speaker 1: kill me with ventanyl and what he went through to
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  Speaker 1: go over that, and of course the surgeries, the back surgery.
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  Speaker 1: So that's all, you know, that's all part of his
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  Speaker 1: personal life that everybody knows. But it's this public persona
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  Speaker 1: that meant so much to people and still does obviously.
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  Speaker 1: Just look at the memorials and people reaching out and
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  Speaker 1: talking about that. Everybody from you know, any age group
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  Speaker 1: you can imagine, and very famous people too, talking about
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  Speaker 1: this guy being one of their first childhood heroes. He
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  Speaker 1: was all of that and he did. It's not you know,
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  Speaker 1: it sounds like you're overestimating it, but it does matter
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  Speaker 1: to be in that public persona a hero to people.
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  Speaker 1: What was it? You know, each your vitamins, prey, do
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  Speaker 1: your homework, all that stuff. Now a lot to kids.
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  Speaker 1: It still does all of that stuff, and that public
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  Speaker 1: image private might have been a little bit different, obviously,
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  Speaker 1: But I gotta tell you this is what shocked me
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  Speaker 1: the most yesterday. Now I didn't follow wrestling. I've ever
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  Speaker 1: been a big wrestling fan, you know, definitely aware of it.
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  Speaker 1: I know all the personalities as far as what they
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  Speaker 1: do and what they're about. I get that. I love
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  Speaker 1: that the WWE stayed active and they didn't cancel any
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  Speaker 1: events during COVID. I thought that was fantastic. WrestleMania is
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  Speaker 1: like an event that's it's as big as the Super Bowl. Seriously,
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  Speaker 1: that's how much money it brings in. So I understand
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  Speaker 1: all of that. What I didn't get I I was
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  Speaker 1: kind of sort of aware of the news stories and
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  Speaker 1: talking about it back in the day on radio. But
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  Speaker 1: what shocked me yesterday was not only the announcement that
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  Speaker 1: that Hull Cogan had died at seventy one, but you know,
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  Speaker 1: there's that and the memorials coming. You're like, oh my god,
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  Speaker 1: this is just crazy. You know, it's I guess he
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  Speaker 1: hadn't really hadn't been doing well, went off to do
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  Speaker 1: some other stuff during my day, and I come back.
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  Speaker 1: All you could see, all I could see and hear
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  Speaker 1: was the hate coming for the guy in popular culture.
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  Speaker 1: It was just it was just amazing, and it actually
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  Speaker 1: took me back. I'm like, this can't be. This has
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  Speaker 1: to be fake news. That this why is somebody starting
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  Speaker 1: a hate campaign against Hulkogan? And you look back and
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  Speaker 1: I understand the reasons why and all this this other stuff.
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  Speaker 2: But.
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  Speaker 1: Apparently they're using that as as an excuse this. This
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  Speaker 1: was a huge story back in the early twenty tens.
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  Speaker 1: Let's call it that. I might remember this where there
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  Speaker 1: was a hidden camera. It caught him in a sex
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  Speaker 1: tape in a lascivious three way kind of situation with
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  Speaker 1: Bubba the love Sponge and his wife and all this
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  Speaker 1: other stuff. Hulk didn't know he was being recorded, and
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  Speaker 1: that was bad. Wound up suing the Gawker publication for
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  Speaker 1: hundreds of millions UT dollars, remember that, So that was
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  Speaker 1: a big win after all that, But what came out
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  Speaker 1: of that. Part of that recording that resurfaced later was
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  Speaker 1: Hulk saying some racist stuff about who his daughter was dating.
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  Speaker 1: So there was that, which is never good obviously, but
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  Speaker 1: he also didn't know he's being recorded. I understand that,
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  Speaker 1: but that gets to that separation between the public persona
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  Speaker 1: and the private persona and what happened, but it dogged
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  Speaker 1: him for years, and also some inside fights apparently in wrestling.
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  Speaker 1: And here's the stuff I really didn't know about. Apparently
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  Speaker 1: he you know, been an alpha character. You know, he's
• 7:01
  Speaker 1: a business person. He was trying to keep his name
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  Speaker 1: on top. He stepped a lot of people along the way,
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  Speaker 1: allegedly to do it. You'll find that in any business.
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  Speaker 1: I get that. But what shocked me was just the
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  Speaker 1: hate over this, even as in this is one I
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  Speaker 1: wasn't aware of. Boot off the stage in LA in
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  Speaker 1: January at a WrestleMania event. Well it was in l
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  Speaker 1: a number one, but also it sounded like this. So
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  Speaker 1: this sadly turned out to be Hulk Hogan's last wrestling
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  Speaker 1: public appearance and they boot him. It's that's a that's
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  Speaker 1: a real That was all over the headline. So people
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  Speaker 1: felt the need to resurface that all day long yesterday,
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  Speaker 1: and then I thought about it, and I'm like, not
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  Speaker 1: a second first, this is something something's not adding up here,
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  Speaker 1: you know, and you put the pieces together for somebody
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  Speaker 1: who an American icon, even people who are controversial, always
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  Speaker 1: at least takes a couple of days before anybody digs
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  Speaker 1: up some dirt from their past or the hate they
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  Speaker 1: have for him, or you know. I'm like, I'm thinking
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  Speaker 1: about this and I'm like, oh my god, it's right
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  Speaker 1: in front of my face. The hate came from you
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  Speaker 1: know what I'm gonna say. You know exactly what it was.
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  Speaker 1: He spoke at the r NC last year right before
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  Speaker 1: the election. Any any stumped for Trump. Of course, that's
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  Speaker 1: where they hates coming.
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  Speaker 2: And they tried to kill the next president of the
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  Speaker 2: United States.
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  Speaker 1: Enough blaws, enough said.
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  Speaker 2: Tamania ron while brother left Trump Omania rule again, left Tamania,
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  Speaker 2: make Oma cry again.
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  Speaker 1: I remember that, Remember the scene in the crowd and
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  Speaker 1: then they then they flashed Trump and He's like he
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  Speaker 1: just absolutely loved it, you know, the promoter being what
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  Speaker 1: he is, base loved it. And I remember saying this
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  Speaker 1: at the time, and I think everybody agreed don't discount
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  Speaker 1: how valuable an endorsement to the magabase somebody like hul
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  Speaker 1: Cogan was it is. You know, that was a massive,
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  Speaker 1: massive thing reaching out to that base. It was absolutely huge.
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  Speaker 1: So here's what I'm getting at, this shocking hate that
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  Speaker 1: came out for Hulkogan yesterday out of every corner of
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  Speaker 1: the universe, and there was a lot of it. You
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  Speaker 1: can still see it today, don't fool yourself. I think
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  Speaker 1: what we can learn here is, despite the controversies of
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  Speaker 1: the past, whatever he said or did that was caught
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  Speaker 1: on a hidden video before, maybe not well liked in
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  Speaker 1: his own industry, among his peers, whatever, all of that stuff,
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  Speaker 1: none of that would have surfaced and brought out and
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  Speaker 1: bubbled out the hate that came out yesterday for this
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  Speaker 1: guy if he hadn't done just that. This is what
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  Speaker 1: this is where politics are so fricking gross. Right, If
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  Speaker 1: hulk Hogan had done the DNC and campaign for Kamala
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  Speaker 1: and still had those controversies in his back, in his background,
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  Speaker 1: the hidden audio videootape controversies, blah blah blah, whatever it was.
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  Speaker 1: You think we're really seeing and feeling and hearing all
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  Speaker 1: this hate for this guy today. There is an absolutely
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  Speaker 1: no way, no. I will never believe that. I didn't
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  Speaker 1: even think of it at first, that that may be
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  Speaker 1: the reason why. But it's still staring at us right
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  Speaker 1: in the face. They always could because he dared to
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  Speaker 1: stump and politic and campaign and endorse Trump at the
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  Speaker 1: Republican National Convention. That's where all this resurfaced hate came from.
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  Speaker 1: Instead of taking a beat for a second and just saying, wow,
• 10:42
  Speaker 1: lost an American icon. Yeah, that's what it is. That's
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  Speaker 1: exactly what it is, no matter how you feel about
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  Speaker 1: the guy. But I'll never believe that this wasn't related
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  Speaker 1: to that. Of course it was absolutely was, But there's
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  Speaker 1: that the takeaway. You gotta be able to separate a
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  Speaker 1: public image from a private image. And if that guy's status,
• 11:02
  Speaker 1: if that guy's image meant something to you and your
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  Speaker 1: childhood or now or your kids, don't let anybody knock
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  Speaker 1: that off. Don't let anybody try to convince you who
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  Speaker 1: your idols are. You believe what you believe. Believable. God,
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  Speaker 1: it was such a shame. I mean, I honestly thought
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  Speaker 1: I thought there would be after the Ozzie Laws, another
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  Speaker 1: one this week. I thought there would be like hate
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  Speaker 1: people saying he's a devil worshiper. I didn't even see that.
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  Speaker 1: Like people who believe that. Even they took a beat
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  Speaker 1: because Ozzy wasn't in politics. There's your perfect example. But
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  Speaker 1: Hulk finally came out of the woodwork and he did
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  Speaker 1: jump into support Trump. That's where the hate's coming from.
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  Speaker 1: Don't fool yourself, of course, that's where it's coming from.
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  Speaker 1: But there were all kinds of dedications, including from one
• 11:43
  Speaker 1: Ron DeSantis. Yesterday, so he had some I don't even
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  Speaker 1: know where it was in one of the sixty seven
• 11:48
  Speaker 1: Florida counties. Yesterday. He was speaking at some public event
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  Speaker 1: and he had just heard the news about Hulk Hogan,
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  Speaker 1: and this is ironic. He starts talking about what an
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  Speaker 1: icon Hulk Hogan was to him through childhood and through
• 12:01
  Speaker 1: the nineties and even today and his kids and I
• 12:03
  Speaker 1: guess the family had met hulcub several times whatever. So
• 12:06
  Speaker 1: he was in the middle of his speech, he started
• 12:09
  Speaker 1: to tell some Hulk stories, well kind of sorta related
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  Speaker 1: to that. He had a protester, a Heckler in the crowd,
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  Speaker 1: and this is a great takeaway for all of us,
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  Speaker 1: and how to handle being faced with being heckled publicly.
• 12:24
  Speaker 1: Desantus is getting really good at this. He used to
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  Speaker 1: not be, but he is. He just kept on rolling. Ironically,
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  Speaker 1: he was in the middle of talking about Hulk Hogan
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  Speaker 1: at the time when he faced this hate in the crowd.
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  Speaker 1: But this is exactly what happened. There's a couple of
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  Speaker 1: f bombs in here from the heckler, from the loser
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  Speaker 1: in the crowd. I'll try to like talk over that,
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  Speaker 1: but you may hear it anyway.
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  Speaker 3: So and so, like the first few WrestleManias I think
• 12:44
  Speaker 3: were like that. And I remember WrestleMania three, he was up, hey, stop, stop, stop,
• 12:49
  Speaker 3: I'm get out of here, get out of here, Get
• 12:54
  Speaker 3: out of here, Get out of here, get out of here,
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  Speaker 3: get out of here now.
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  Speaker 1: So we used to have the closed circuit, so you
• 13:04
  Speaker 1: would go and you would and then he went on
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  Speaker 1: and he just started talking back about WrestleMania Hall Cogan stories. Great.
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  Speaker 1: He just kept on rolling. I will tell you, if
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  Speaker 1: you've ever done any public speaking in any kind of
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  Speaker 1: a crowd and see including a hostile crowd, man', that's
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  Speaker 1: a skill to learn and it's really valuable. And now
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  Speaker 1: this has it while ironically he's talking about hul Cogan.
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  Speaker 1: He gets heckled by this guy who I think he was.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what I heard in there too. Was
• 13:32
  Speaker 1: he talking about Alligator Ally? Trump? It gets to the
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  Speaker 1: point where the protesters you don't even know what they're
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  Speaker 1: angry about anymore. So the lesson is from DeSantis, and
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  Speaker 1: he did a great job with this. Just keep on Roland,
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  Speaker 1: keep on talking. Happened to be talking about hull Cogan
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  Speaker 1: at the time, so he continued on with that message.
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  Speaker 1: But he could have been talking about anything else, policy,
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  Speaker 1: alligator ally, property taxes, who the hell knows. But good
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  Speaker 1: job there by DeSantis. That's going to really help when
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  Speaker 1: he does run for president again, because you know that's
• 14:02
  Speaker 1: gonna happen. All right. I got to clear up some
• 14:04
  Speaker 1: fake news that I got excited about to yesterday. I
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  Speaker 1: was all excited and I heard it mostly from others
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  Speaker 1: people's reaction. But the reaction I think is the news
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  Speaker 1: story here. So the disgusting albatross's on the view, of course,
• 14:21
  Speaker 1: which is you want to talk about hate, that's where
• 14:22
  Speaker 1: most of the hate just comes from. That's their whole
• 14:24
  Speaker 1: business model. Joy Bayhart gets on there and she said
• 14:28
  Speaker 1: something that got everybody all excited. What she said was
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  Speaker 1: this and before we go.
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  Speaker 2: On hiatus, will only have one more show after this.
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  Speaker 1: I'm allowed to say that ry.
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  Speaker 2: Too late now, so it doesn't really matter.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, before we go I want And they went into
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: talking about more Trump hate and Trump arrangement syndrome which
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: she is infected by, and all this other stuff. All right,
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: what she said, we only have one more show that
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: got everybody all excited. Me too, I'm guilty as well.
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  Speaker 1: They're not being canceled. It's just a scheduled hia hiatus.
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  Speaker 1: Apparently so much so the reaction, and this is the
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: interesting part. The reaction built up so quickly in trending
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: news about the View being canceled that ABC had to
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: come out with a statement saying, no, they're just on
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: a scheduled hiatus, one more pre recorded show before that.
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  Speaker 1: Heatis that's all it is, all right, So that's disappointing.
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  Speaker 1: So that turned out to be a little bit of
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  Speaker 1: fake news. They're not being canceled. Here's the story. Don't
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: look past it. We're in a world now after Colebart
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  Speaker 1: getting canceled, where it's totally plausible for those Hags to
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  Speaker 1: go away totally plausible. In fact, when she said that,
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: it was so plausible that everybody thought that's what she meant,
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: and and there was so much celebration over this that
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: it actually got to the heads and the PR department
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  Speaker 1: of ABC and they had to release a statement. That's
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: the good news. So even if you're disappointed that the
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: view is still going to exist, God, I hate it
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  Speaker 1: even playing the sound of her today, it's just that awful.
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  Speaker 1: Good news is there's a lot of interest in that
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  Speaker 1: thing going away. Couldn't you see that thing getting canceled
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  Speaker 1: like soon? And the other propaganda late night hosts who
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: aren't even comedians anymore, they're just talk boxes for one
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  Speaker 1: particular political party. Couldn't you see them going away soon? Too?
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely you could, and believe me, these producers and these
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: networks know that as well. It could happen. So the
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: next time we actually are talking about here on the
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: live stream in the podcast, the view getting canceled, it's
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  Speaker 1: not gonna be shocking at all, but we will celebrate
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: and celebrate you should. You know, a tough week Eric
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: losing all these icons, especially for anybody else in gen X.
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: If you grew up in the eighties and nineties, all
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: these all these classic heroes, Ozzy, Hulk, Hogan, even Malcolm
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: Jamal Warner from The Cosby Show. Losing him too just awful,
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  Speaker 1: just sad news. But here's the takeaway. Here's what you
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: gotta do. You gotta celebrate what they brought, either the
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  Speaker 1: music or the on stage entertainment or the TV show
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  Speaker 1: and all that good stuff. And don't ever ever let
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: anybody disparage your heroes just because the haters didn't like
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  Speaker 1: their politics. That's just ridiculous. All right, next week's going
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  Speaker 1: to be better. We had a lot of bad news
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