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Another Shouting Match · The Wes Carroll Morning Show

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The news, opinions, commentary, and interviews. You need to start your
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day. You're listening to The West Carrol Morning Show. Thursday morning, twenty
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eighth day of September. I'm West thanks for joining me. It's the day
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after another Republican presidential debate. Wasn't a whole lot different than the other one?
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Was it? Just different moderators? I mean, that was about the
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only real difference we had. Univision represented. Boy, she was firing from
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one side, but that's okay. You gotta be able to answer questions from
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all voters. She certainly was representing the far left, and that was certainly
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seemed to be the case. At least, you know, they need to
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be tested for that. Who Ever ends up being the nominee will need to
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be tested for that. I don't know if any of those people need to
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be tested for it yet, though, because obviously the person that I think
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again won the debate was the one who wasn't there. Donald Trump's presence not
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being there certainly loomed large. They took their shots at him. They took
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a couple of decent shots at him, and then Chris Christie had a really
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pathetic one where he called him Donald Duck and which, of course is just
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an attempt to do things the way that Trump did during the twenty sixteen run,
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the way that he handled himself at debates and during the primary season.
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And I don't know yet, I haven't seen yet today what Trump's response to
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that is, if he's responded to it yet. But let's just be realistic
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here. Trump not being there certainly I think puts him in a position where
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he's above the fray of what was going on last night. It was another
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ugly, very choppy, very childish debate. It wasn't it wasn't as productive
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as it could be. And part of it in the defense of the people
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involved, and I'm going to get back to them in a second, but
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part of it is when you have that many people on stage, it's not
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conducive to people getting a fair amount of time to answer questions. It's not
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conducive to people getting an opportunity to answer every question. That's that's part of
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the issue that leads to the bickering and the fighting. You have one candidate
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that gets asked a question about China, and then maybe a second candidate maybe
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gets to answer about China, and then they move on to another topic.
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Well, then you've got five other people on stage that never got to answer
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about China. So they have their talking points lined up in case China comes
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up, and they feel like, I need to get my line in about
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China. So they want to say it because they feel like they need to
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get that exclamation point in. It seemed at least early on that Ramis Swammy
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was going to get away with his little we have to all get along,
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I respect all of you line, which at the time sounded like a good
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line, and for a moment it seemed like maybe he'd get away with it,
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but Tim Scott very quickly turned it back on him and pointed out the
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fact that he had said that they had all been bought and paid for at
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the last debate, which I think Ramaswamy needed to be I mean he was,
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he was putting his place very quickly there. Nikki Haley went after him
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a lot. She went after DeSantis sort of late in the debate. She
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looked strong. I mean, I'll sit here and I'll say I still think
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Trump was the big winner, and for two reasons. One because he was
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above the fray and he doesn't need to necessarily be there. I don't know
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what the overall numbers are going to be. He's he's done just fine missing
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the first one. I assume he'll be just fine missing this one. The
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other reason I think Trump wins is because this they're all sort of trying to
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do their best Trump impression in the debate. That's what they're doing. They're
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all trying to throw throw haymakers at each other, not all of them,
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but many of them, the ones that are trying to really separate themselves and
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pull away and all of this. Penn seemed a little more behaved this time.
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He wasn't. I mean, he definitely fought to try to get as
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much time as he could, but he was a little bit more paced.
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He but you know, they look bad when they feel like they have to
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speak on every question and again. They have their talking points, they want
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to get out and they want to say it. I thought, up until
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maybe the last half hour or so, I felt like, you know,
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with Trump, to me being the the unofficial winner because he didn't participate and
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taking his shots for that at least this time, which I didn't understand why
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there weren't more shots taken at him the first time. I felt like DeSantis
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and Haley both did a really good job, and it wasn't until maybe the
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last half hour when Haley went after DeSantis. I don't know that it was
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productive. I don't know. I guess we'll see. We'll see in the
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coming days if any of the shots that she took a Ramaswamy or DeSantis or
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productive. She's struggling, you know, to get her place and keep her
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place on the stage. As this all continues to move forward. I can't
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help but go back to my point about DeSantis and Gavin Newsome with their debate
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coming up at the end of November. It just sort of feels like he's
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kind of been placed in in a different tier to himself by doing that.
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And I don't know that I really expressed that well on the show yesterday,
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but that's that's what it feels like. It feels like he's just sort of
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been you know, Trump is in his place, DeSantis is kind of being
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elevated. I don't know who Nicki Haley could do that kind of debate with
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and put her in that sort of place, or anyone else there for that
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matter. I just don't see that as as being anything else that anybody else
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would get an opportunity to do. It's still strange to me. I still
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can't help but feel like, as I expressed yesterday, it just it feels
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like in some way, we may not get any say. And when I
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say me, we I mean all of us, me, you, people
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on the left side of the aisle. I just feel like that we're we're
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pushing ourselves a little bit closer to some sort of a nomination of candidates that
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aren't going to fully go through the whole process. We know that's what happened
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with Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders. He got pushed aside for her. I
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definitely felt like Hillary got pushed aside for Obama. So now you could make
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the case at least Obama one least he was the stronger candidate. In the
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case of Hillary and Sanders, I don't know that she was the stronger candidate.
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I think there was more of at least an impression of her being a
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moderate. So if again, if the Democrats are going to successfully push Trump
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out of the race and let him have is you know, fifty plus percent
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a lead that he's got or his fifty plus percent support, and then knowing
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that Ramaswamy and DeSantis or the two that were on stage last night that Hailey
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could go after and that Tim Scott could go after. I don't know that.
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He really don't remember going after DeSantis, but Hailey definitely went after the
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other two. And there's there's been this talk about how much of the overall
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appeal, the overall support of Republicans that Trump, Ramaswamy and DeSantis have.
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I mean, they are holding the lion's share of it, and everybody else
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is fighting for that last little bit that's available in there. They need to
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get two or three out of there. I mean, they really are going
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to need to get two or three off the stage. That's really what it's
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going to take before we can have any sort of productive debate, because then
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you can ask a question and then everybody can have a chance to answer.
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It doesn't mean that you're not going to have shots fired at each other.
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It just means that they're going to be able to at least all have a
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chance to answer the question. It's really tough. And then you've got certain
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people that get asked certain questions. You know, Bergham's going to get answered,
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the questions about arming. It's just gonna happen every time. But we'll
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see what the numbers are. What the numbers show. It was, I
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think not a great showing for to me, Haley and DeSantis, to me,
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were the two that did the best. I just Ramiswamy was was Ramiswamy.
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But the shots, I think that the shots that were fired in his
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direction, the punches thrown at him, I feel like they landed. I
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feel like you could visibly see him as sort of a staggering backwards. It
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was almost like he was on the ropes a couple of times. I don't
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know if Haley connected really with DeSantis, because she hit her point, he
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fought back, he got the applause break after, but you know, maybe
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a case could be made that she landed there. But all of this back
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to Trump. This is how Trump debated, This is how they're going to
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debate, This is how they're going to conduct themselves. And Chris Christie,
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who is will always just be Chris Christie. Let's just be honest. There's
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no surprises. The tiger's not going crazy. The tiger's going tiger. And
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you know his Donald duckline. I mean, at least, I mean the
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thing you could say, for Christie and Burgham on that end of the stage,
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is at least they Bergham as it went on, started to say things
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like, you know, well, can I answer Christie kind of for the
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most part, seemed to not chime in and try to answer everyone. There
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were a few moments where DeSantis seemed to try to be the adult in the
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room and say we got to stop doing this, but in doing so,
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it just added to the chaos and all the confusion and just the mumbling and
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murmuring on the stage that was going on over and over and over again.
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Ultimately, we'll see if the polling gets changed. We'll see if the polling
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numbers start to show anything, any difference at all. I don't know that
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it will, and I don't know that we're going to get anything other than
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moving forward with a very strong Trump candidate who does not have to participate.
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He's not going to have to. I don't see him in a position where
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him showing up on stage unless you get down to two. And this has
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been the sentiment I think by many of the experts from the beginning. Having
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a giant host of candidates just helps Trump. If this was down to Trump
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and Desantists or Trump de Santists and Rammaswamy. Maybe then you have a discussion
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where Trump maybe needs to show up, because then maybe you're gonna have a
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situation where you're gonna, you know, he's gonna need to come in and
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he's gonna need to throw the haymakers, or when somebody throws a punch at
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him, he's gonna come in and punch back. And that's always been the
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thing with Trump, is it. He has that reputation of if you hit
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me, I'm going to hit you back twice, one harder than the next.
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And that's how he conducted himself in debates. So that's what we're seeing
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playing out here in these debates. He has had an influence on that he
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will haven't and we you know, we didn't really get We got some debates
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from the Democrats last time. It went very quickly. The process was resolved
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very quickly. People were dropping out right from the beginning. They were out
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of the race. We had a couple that have dropped out from the Republican
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side, but nobody of consequence yet. I think the first one to drop
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out for Democrats is now the Vice president, which again should not have gone
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quite as well for her after dropping out. But the President painted himself into
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the corner of saying, this is what the vice president's going to look like.
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This is what the vice president is going to be. A black woman,
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that's what's going to be. And then so that became the option.
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It wasn't then an opportunity to go through and figure out who the best person
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would be and vet them properly, which I assumed that they did. That's
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why we didn't end up with Stacy Abrams or somebody ridiculous like that. So,
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but you know, Tammy Duckworth still, I still, I mean,
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I'm not a fan. I just think she would have been the best possible
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vice presidential candidate. And I don't know why that wasn't the decision. I
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don't know why they didn't go in that direction. I'm glad they didn't,
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because otherwise I really think she would be the candidate right now. I think
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they would have already pushed Biden aside. I think they would have pushed Biden
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aside a year ago to make way for her to be the you know,
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just him resign her step in. She'd be the first woman president, and
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that they'd go through all of it, right, they'd call her the first
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woman president with a disability. They would go through the full gambit of things,
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right, they would. They would hit all of it because they would
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take claim of every single aspect of the boxes that she checks for them,
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because that's what it was about. That's what it was all about. It
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was about checking boxes, wasn't it. So we'll see where all of this
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uh plays out. As far as the polling goes. I think it's got
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to be helpful for Trump. I think it's got to be positive for him.
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I think maybe Haley and DeSantis may see a little bit of a boost.
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I don't know that this was a good debate showing for the vet.
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I just I don't and I don't know that anybody else really elevated themselves at
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all. I don't know that we had the we had the moment that's going
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to be enough to keep Burgham around. I don't know. I don't know
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if that's the case, but remains to be seen and we'll see how it
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goes. But again, I still think that that Trump was the was the
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winner, and I think that he has no reason at all to show up
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West Carroll Morning Show. Right after the break, all right, let's talk
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about phone etiquette. We know that things with phones have changed quite a bit
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over the years. Obviously, the phones themselves have changed. They used to
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be you know, corded and attached to a wall, or maybe you were
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to pay own and there were a number of old school etiquette rules concerning phones
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that obviously changed once the dominant phones became, you know, cell phones.
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The Washington Post spoke with the people of all generations about their biggest pet peeves
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regarding phones and ran their findings by an etiquette expert to compile a list of
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guidelines for proper phone use. And here's some of the rules that they came
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up with based on the research. First and foremost, don't leave a voicemail.
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Yes, that's good. The people really listen to the voicemails. I
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don't. I don't. I mean it's got to be like really intrigued,
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like someone that I don't recognize the number, and I might listen to about
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you got five seconds to convince me to listen to the whole thing, if
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it's really important, if there's any chance, I'm going to call you back
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next text before calling, all right, They say calling someone without warning can
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put stress on the other person. You should text them first and ask if
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they're available. Yeah, I mean I do that, but I'll probably text
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instead. You know, it depends on who the person is, and it
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depends on the purpose of the call. But if it's kind of out of
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the blue, or if it's business related, or if it's someone I don't
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frequently talk to, yeah I might text them first. So yeah, it's
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probably a good good rule to live by. I guess I don't necessarily do
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it all the time now, but that's probably a good one. You do
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not need to answer the call if it's not a good time. Yes,
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all about this one. I'm all about this one. It's not a good
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time to answer. Don't answer right, Just you know, silence it or
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send it to voicemail and you can text back, or just text and say
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I'll call you back. If it's somebody that you need to mention that too.
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But if you especially if you don't know the number, the chances of
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me answering, it's pretty slim, pretty darn slim. Emotions are for voice,
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facts are for text. Yes, any message involving opinions or emotions should
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or anything like an argument should be done in a phone call. Things like
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making plans or relaying some small factual information should be done in a text.
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Absolutely. And see I don't always interpret the emotion involved in a text.
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I don't. I have struggled with that, and I've got friends that feel
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like they need to send emotion based texts and it's not easy for me.
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That is a challenge for me sometimes because I don't know, and I misinterpret,
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and I think they're joking or I think that it's more factual than emotional,
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and it gets really complicated and messy and less since an emergency police hold
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if someone doesn't take your call, don't hang up and call right back again.
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So if it's an emergency, you tell them in the text, hey
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I need to reach you. It's important. Otherwise just hold off. They've
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already sent you voicemail or they didn't answer the call. You don't have to
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call right back immediately. Occasionally there might be a case where there's a little
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urgency to it, so you might call back in a short amount of time.
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But and then finally, don't use speaker phone in public. I mean
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that makes sense. And I would also like to add to that. If
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you're answering your phone on speaker phone and there's anyone else nearby, or any
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chance anyone else is gonna be I think you should tell them you're on speaker
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phone anyway, even if there's just a possibility someone if they're in their house
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and they're the only one home, all right, If there's a child in
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the car, I like to know that ahead of time, and I like
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to let people know, Hey, there's a kid in the car and it's
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on speaker phone. I'm more often we'll have like an earbut in so I
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don't necessarily use my speaker phone as much as I used to, so it's
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not quite as big of a deal. But to me, you should let
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them know. And that's part of why I use the earbutt is so that
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I don't have to do that. But anyway, all right, Speaking of
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cell phones, a new Common Sense Media report finds that preteens and teens are
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being inundated by phone alerts and notifications all day and night. Half of kids
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age eleven to seventeen receive about two hundred and thirty seven notifications a day,
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including during the school day and throughout the night. Some kids receive upwards of
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five thousand alerts notifications on their phones in a twenty four hour span. Twenty
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five percent of the pings and buzzes occur while they're at school, five percent
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come when they're sleeping or supposed to be sleeping. Fifty nine percent of kids
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that were part of this report admit to being online between the hours of midnight
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and five am. Most of the alerts come from social media apps like TikTok,
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Snapchat, Facebook, Instagram, discord. We're safe on almost all of
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those in this house, almost all of them. Benjamin Maxwell, a doctor
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of child and adolescent psychiatry at Rady Children's Hospital in San Diego, tells NBC
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News he is immensely concerned by the findings, especially how a highly stimulated environment
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may affect kids cognitive ability, attention span, and memory during a time when
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their brains are still developing. Yes, that is definitely something we should all
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places that use those QR menus. Maybe that's the QR code menus. Maybe
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that is the way to go. You don't have to touch them. Is
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there a QR code for the salt and pepper? I don't touch the salt
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and pepper to a restaurant anyway. You know, the ketchup bottle, Yes,
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we touch that. We got kids that, you know, and occasionally
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I'll do that, but not the salt and pepper. I don't even know.
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I couldn't tell you the last time I remember seeing a salt and pepper
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shaker in a restaurant. All right, that'll do it for this Thursday edition
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